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DADT Repeal Won’t Make It Into The SOTU

As we all know, Obama will be making his first SOTU address this week, though thankfully, the time will not conflict with the season premiere of “Lost.” I’m not kidding. That’s for real (and if you want to see a funny video on the whole “Lost” fan thing, click for an Onion video). TheState of the Union is when the President highlights the accomplishments of the previous year, the legislative agenda of the president, and basically giving a report of where the country is.

Well, one promise among many Obama has yet to fulfill, is the repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.” And if Rep. Ike Skelton has anything to say about it, a repeal will not happen (H/t to Logistics Monster), as this headline indicates,Skelton Opposes Repeal Of ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’. That’s jake, really:

The leading House Democrat on military policy said Friday that he opposes repealing the law that bans openly gay people from serving in the military.

Seventeen years ago, Rep. Ike Skelton (D-Mo.) played a major role in crafting the controversial law known as “Don’t ask, don’t tell.” When President Bill Clinton wanted to lift the ban preventing gay people from joining the military, Skelton opposed the move. The end result was a compromise under which gay service members would conceal their sexual orientation.

Now, after President Barack Obama pledged during his campaign and first year in office to repeal the law, Skelton finds himself on the opposite side once again.

“I am personally not for changing the law,” he said during a C-SPAN “Newsmakers” interview that will air Sunday.

Because the military is engaged in two major conflicts, in Afghanistan and Iraq, changing the law would create “disruption” that can cause some “serious problems,” Skelton said during the interview.

See, to me, that seems like the PERFECT time to repeal this oppressive, unjust bill. Don’t we NEED more people who want to serve their country? I would think so, but apparently, Skelton doesn’t see it that way:

He said the full House Armed Services Committee won’t hold a hearing on the repeal of the law. Rather, the Personnel subcommittee will hold the hearing at some point this year.

Skelton also said he would oppose efforts to repeal the law in Congress — setting the stage for a potentially intense debate within his own committee with Democrats who want to see the law repealed.

Meanwhile, Skelton’s Senate counterpart, Carl Levin (D-Mich.), said that the Senate Armed Services Committee will hold a hearing on the issue at the end of January.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Friday that he and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Adm. Mike Mullen are prepared to testify before the Senate.

Gates said at a press briefing that there are continuing conversations within the Pentagon about “implementing the president’s intent.”

Obama has come under increasing pressure from gay-rights advocates to move on the repeal. Gay-rights advocates are eyeing the change in law for this year, but it is unclear how Obama will proceed. The Pentagon has moved slowly on the issue and there have been reports of internal dissent on how fast changes to the law should be instituted.

Great. This doesn’t bode well for the repeal of this intolerant law given Skelton’s position, and Obama’s continued unwillingness to address this issue. I, for one, am not at all surprised, and I sure am not holding my breath for it to change.

Once again, yet another promise for change that has gone by the wayside. Many of us knew it; too many believed it. Now, here we are – not even the same place we were before since Skelton is coming out against repeal. Anyone else sick of these machinations?

  • sandshark222

    Does this really surprise anyone? Obama’s campaign was nothing but empty promises. Of course, we here at NQ knew that all along but somehow I get no satisfaction in saying I told ya so. I wish we had an honest proven leader, so I wouldn’t have to say it.

    I am currently serving in the Air Force. I can tell you that myself and most people I serve with think that gays have as much of a right to serve as we do. I can also tell you that Obama ain’t too popular in the military right now. Most of us didn’t vote for him, and we can’t wait to get him outta office. Know who had rock star status in the eyes of the military right now? Sarah Palin ;)

  • getfitnow
  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Thank you so much for your service to this country, sandshark222 – it is much appreciated, I assure you!

    And thanks for the inside info.  I wondered how people inside the military were feeling abt him.  I am not surprised that he wasn’t the popular choice…

    Thank you!

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    That was one helluva article, wasn’t it?  I read it last night, and hope to do something on it soon.  Thanks, getfitnow!

  • sandshark222

    There’s an uneasy feeling most of us in the military have about Obama. Most service members don’t trust him. We want to win the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan but there’s not a lot of confidence right now. He hasn’t done anything to instill confidence in us, either. He hasn’t done ANYTHING to motivate or rally the troops. Even GWB did that. We would feel a lot more confident with someone like Hillary or McCain as president right now, without a doubt.

    After all, wasn’t it Chris Matthews who referred to us as the ‘enemy camp’?

  • sandshark222

    BTW almost forgot to mention, RRRA I love reading your articles!

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Yes, Matthews did.  WTH is wrong with that guy???

    But, but, Obama used some soldiers in Fort Bragg as a photo op – how could you NOT feel rallied by that?  (I know – so much snark so early in the morning!)

    And thanks so much for the compliment – I really appreciate it!  :-D

  • FLDemFem

    Why does anyone believe a word that comes out of Obama’s mouth?? He started breaking campaign promises during the campaign..remember public financing?? He was going to take it, until he didn’t. So why would anyone think he knows how to keep a promise?? I don’t think he even knows he is supposed to. Someone should tell him. Any volunteers??

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    LOL, FLDemFem – well, you would think the people of MA voting in a Rep. might tell him, but the WH has figured out a way to claim it has NOTHING to do with him!

    But you are so right – he was for public financing before he was against it…Sheesh.

  • creeper

    That law is the single most repulsive thing to come out of the Clinton administration. 

    I have no hope Obama even remembers his campaign promise, much less that he will do anything about it.  It was just empty words, spoken like all the others, because he thought someone wanted to hear them.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Yeah, he probably doesn’t.  He has done to the GLBT community what he has done to most everyone else- he says what he needs to do to get the votes, then discards them.

    Not for nothing, but this new SC ruling is going to make it difficult for GLBT people and others whose contributions before were important.  Now, the candidates will just get it from some corp. instead, and not give a damn abt this community or others who are in the minority.

  • Peggy Sue

    Skeleton’s excuse is about the lamest I’ve heard: because of the ongoing conflicts we can’t have any “disruptions.”  They must stay up all night coming up with these lines.  What serious problems is the man talking about?

    I’m wondering if the Dems are holding out on this, waiting until the elections get closer.  The Democratic Party is in tatters right now  and November looms large [and dark].  And if there’s one thing the party hacks have proven themselves good at–it’s playing with expediency.  So if repealing DOMA might garner some votes, they might actually do it or suggest it’s right around the corner–like all those jobs they’d be creating or how they’d turn the housing market around or present an affordable healthcare package etc., etc., etc.

    Just one more broken promise, Amy.  Just something else we can HOPE for.

  • Sassy

    Amy,
    Somewhat off topic, but I hope you know that both Cindy and Meghan McCain support gay marriage. Senator McCain respectfully disagreed with his family.
    Still, since he is up for reelection, I admire their courage.
    Best wishes to all who are fighting for equality!

  • jwrjr

    The “accomplishments” of Obama’s first year and his kept campaign promises would be great themes for episodes of “Lost”.

  • creeper

    R3A, I can’t imagine why any member of the GLBT community would even think of contributing further to Barack Obama.  But denial seems to run deep there.   In the face of Donnie McClurkin both my sisters insisted Obama was gays’ best “hope”.

    I guess they’re still “hoping” but I wouldn’t know because I’m still the traitor who voted for McCain/Palin and in the interest of salvaging what little remains of the relationships we don’t discuss that.

  • Anonymous

    The SNL version of the Obama accomplishments will be the best show on TV…. of course the SOTU address listing all the things he promised on one side and all the thing he didn’t do on the other side will be the best show on TV this Wednesday.

  • creeper

    Sassy, I don’t think McCain’s opposition to gay marriage is all that strong and, in fact, I think he’d have signed a bill in support of it if Congress had put one on his desk.  Certainly Sarah Palin is no ideolgue in this area, either, her first act as Governor of Alaska having been to sign a bill extending state benefits to partners of gay state employees. 

    What good does it do the GLBT community to have someone in office who gives lip service to their concerns while destroying them (and us) economically?

  • Anonymous

    I know, creeper, it makes no nsense to me, either.  If it helps to know, more and more folks in the GLB T community are getting pretty mad.  John Aravosis started a “Don’t Ask, Don’t Give” drive for GLBT people to not give one more dime to the DNC until it’s repealed.  But that’s the thing with the SC decision – it might not make a difference now.  They’ll just get the money elsewhere, and won’t have to do a damn thing for the community.

    I still do not understand how so many people were so hoodwinked by this guy, in the face of SO much evidence to the contrary, McClurkin being one.  But I think part of the problem is what the MSM covers.  I was with a bunch of friends this weekend, all lesbians, and NONE of them knew abt Tim Kaine being the head of the DNC, handpicked by Obama.  They didn’t know he was anti-choice, but even more, that he had suppoirted this unbelievably homophobic law in VA that same sex people could not leave property to each other unless they were blood related.

    It’s like there is one issue here, one there, like McClurkin, or Warren, or Meeks, or Kmiec, but people are unwilling to put them altogether to see the pattern…

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    I know, creeper, it makes no nsense to me, either.  If it helps to know, more and more folks in the GLB T community are getting pretty mad.  John Aravosis started a “Don’t Ask, Don’t Give” drive for GLBT people to not give one more dime to the DNC until it’s repealed.  But that’s the thing with the SC decision – it might not make a difference now.  They’ll just get the money elsewhere, and won’t have to do a damn thing for the community.  
     
    I still do not understand how so many people were so hoodwinked by this guy, in the face of SO much evidence to the contrary, McClurkin being one.  But I think part of the problem is what the MSM covers.  I was with a bunch of friends this weekend, all lesbians, and NONE of them knew abt Tim Kaine being the head of the DNC, handpicked by Obama.  They didn’t know he was anti-choice, but even more, that he had suppoirted this unbelievably homophobic law in VA that same sex people could not leave property to each other unless they were blood related.  
     
    It’s like there is one issue here, one there, like McClurkin, or Warren, or Meeks, or Kmiec, but people are unwilling to put them altogether to see the pattern…

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    ROTFLMAO – GOOD one!!!!

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Yes, Sassy, Cindy McCain is something else, isn’t she?  That ad she did was great.  You know, it was amazing how little the MSM covered her philanthropic endeavors, which are many.  She is something else.  Cool abt Meaghan, too.

    As for John, well, creeper is probably rigt that he would sign a bill in support.  The thing with John was that he stood by his gay friends in office who came out.  IOW, he didn’t spout a bunch of words without action, he did the action, and said a few words.  I’d take that any day of the week!

    And creeper, absolutely right abt Palin.  I still cannot believe the level of Palin hate given the things she has actually done.  Talk abt some massive sexism going on…

  • jbjd

    JMc’s long-time Senate Chief of Staff is gay.  http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/

  • Guest
  • bayareavoter

    ….that same sex people could not leave property to each other unless they were blood related.

    WTF? Are you serious?

  • mocvr
  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Now that you mention it, that sounds familiar, jbjd.  I know McCain has been a stalwart friend to some folks who came out. 

    Ironic, isn’t it, that so many people bought Obama’s schtick when all along, it was McCain who would have been better (well, HILLARY would have been the best, but I assume that went without saying)?

  • bayareavoter

    I know a lot of Lefties like to bash Israel but there are a couple of things we could learn from them. They are known to have one of the best armed forces in the world (for good or for ill) and guess what? Gays serve in the military!

    And OT, but why not take a page from their airport security at the same time. Or their efficiency in Haiti with their search and rescue teams and field hospitals?

    And Ike Skelton is 79, from a consevative Missouri district, and should not be in charge of this decision. No offense meant to older Midwesterners, many of whom I love and admire ;) including in-laws!

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    LOL – oh, yeah – the next holidays spent with the in-laws will be JUST fine!  :)

    Exactly right, though, bayareavoter – the Israeli military has functioned just fine for years now.  Same with the UK military.  It is disheartening that we cannot get this thing repealed despite all evidence to support repeal.  Sheesh.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    True that.  Even with the way the “Truth-o-meter” has promises kept/broken/stalled, one has to look carefully at exactly what it is that is “in the works,” which ones were “kept” (as in, did all Obama have to do was sign a piece of paper because a bunch of other people had done all of the work already, like his IL record), etc.  The devil’s in the details…

  • AnnieCarmel

    Guessing the SOTU address will last about 5-10 minutes…most apologies for us…not himself.  Couldn’t resist copying part of a post from LOTUS.  HAHAHA  The dork couldn’t manage spontaneous comments to grammer school kids.  The Onion was right when it had him using TOTUS at the breakfast table.

    http://www.thelaptopoftheunitedstates.blogspot.com

    “I cannot end today’s post without sharing some sympathy for TOTUS. You see, the President used TOTUS to speak to 6th graders last week! TOTUS is so embarrassed that his boss could speak to 6th graders without his help, and this is being displayed proudly on the White House website. Poor TOTUS!”

  • AnnieCarmel

    Cindy McCain would have been an incredible FLOTUS.  Can you imagine what she and Sarah could have accomplished together on social issues?  Cindy McCain has been involved in substatial philantropic projects most of her adult life; the current Fatuous FLOTUS has accomplished nothing in this year for others and for most of her adult life was ashamed of her country.  She has, however, spent hundreds of thousands on her fashion image and is a hypocritical spokesperson for childhood obesity…she who had packed on the pounds with all the lobster and $100 lb Kobe beef.  Disgusting is too mild.

    Sarah supported and passed legislation supporting many issues that she didn’t personally agree with…the way it should be.  Oh, God how I hope we can take away the majority in the next election and put a stop to his agenda to bring down the country.

  • arabella trefoil
  • arabella trefoil

    Sorry, hit the Post button too fast. From NYT link above:

    “A White House official said the State of the Union speech’s themes would include “creating good jobs, addressing the deficit, changing Washington, and fighting for middle class families.”
    A year into his presidency, Obama and his Democratic Party have witnessed an erosion of support among middle-class Americans who swept him into office.
    Frustration with 10 percent unemployment rate and wariness toward Obama’s plans to change the healthcare system helped set the stage for a shocking loss by Democrats last week in a Massachusetts Senate race.”

    He’s “unveiling initiatives for middle class” none of which make any sense to me.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    This cannot be true – please, tell me this man they keep claiming is “The Most Brilliant President EVAH!!!” did not ned a TELEPROMPTER to speak to 6th graders!!! 

    And LOL abt how long the SOTU will take…Too funny!

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Oh, brother.  Is this a “give with the right hand, take away with the left hand” kind of thing? 

    The sad thing is, AT, plenty of people will fall for this crapola, just like they did the first time…

  • Guest

    P: We know that today we must win. That’s why we are so grateful that 2,500 pastors have come out on consistent basis every month. If someone is going to vote no, we flip them to show that kids will be taught this in schools. We have spent thousands of dollars on polling. Continue to do so. In 1999, LDS got involved in Hawaii. With capital S, they were significantly involved. No different this time. Campaign will cost minimum of $25 million and LDS across this state deeply involved. Catholic Bishop in SD, three evangelical ministers from SD all got involved. Asked Focus on the Family for money. They sent us $50,000 that allowed us to get petitions printed. Thanks to you, we are here, we will win. Don’t pay attention to newspapers, we have secret weapon (or secret voters or something, but basically, the weapon is kids in school.)
    CD: Flyer from California Family Council of which Mr. Prentice is CEO and Mr. Tam is involved. This is flyer that was produced during campaign. Any effort to distance campaign from knowledge or control, not credible.

    http://prop8trialtracker.com/

  • kenoshamarge

    As an “older” mid-westerner I have never felt it was any of my damn business who married who. Nor do I believe that we as a nation have any right to discriminate against people that want to serve based on their sexual orientation.

    Skelton ought to be peeping through the blinds like some busybody and not be making laws that discriminate against American Citizens.

    Some of us older mid-westerners are against discrimination no matter who’s doing it to whom.

  • FLDemFem

    “Themes”???? Like the ones I download for my browser and computer??? Oh neato!! I can get a theme that addresses the deficit and the stimulus too!! One with hundreds of million dollar bills flowing into the pockets of banks and other Obama supporters. If I catch a bill with my cursor, do I get to keep it? Or perhaps one with the theme of jobs, with little want ads floating around that you can catch with your cursor..if you catch it you get the job!! Themes!! WHEEEE!!!

    (snark btw)

  • cdo

    When people are critical of Clinton over DADT, I have to wonder how old they were in the 80s. Do they recall the attitude towards gays at that time period? Do they realize that “don’t ask” was a good thing because before that….the military would ask “are you a homosexual?” and that question was enough to keep you out. If you lied, and were found out, you were guilty of being both a homosexual AND of lying. DADT didn’t make it ok to be gay in the military, but it did make it illegal for anyone to ASK so you wouldn’t have to LIE.
    (btw, Clinton took alot of heat because of DADT, the military hated him for it. He gained nothing politically, and lost quite a bit. He didn’t have to do a damn thing on that issue, but he did something dammit)

    DADT is now thankfully somethng that needs to go…but not because it was bad to begin with, but because it served its purpose. It helped bring an insanely homophobic military culture around to a more mature outlook.

    As for John Avarois, he has been a complete horses ass on this topic for a long time. He has lambasted the Clintons for DADT, whiie breaking out the pom poms for Obama. And why? When did Obama pledge support for gays?  There was only one candidate in the last election who had any interest at all in gay rights, and Avarois tore her to shreds. Daily.

    When Obama was elected that was the end of Universal health coverage AND gay rights for at least 4 years. Neither of those will ever happen under his watch. And how this comes as a shock to his suporters I can not fathom for the life of me. I watched the same damn speeches they did.

  • Guest

    Crist still followed through with the marriage, of course, but in the year since, the pair have rarely been seen together. Most recently, Crist spent the evening of their first anniversary
    in Palm Beach’s Mar-a-Lago at a March of Dimes fundraiser, with wife Carole nowhere in sight, according to page2live.com

    This after a year in which Rome bounced between visits to her kids in New York and her home on Fisher Island, while Crist stayed in Tallahassee or his home in Tampa Bay. Remember, Crist worked right through the couple’s honeymoon.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Yes, I am.  It is being appealed, of course, but yes, he supported it, and it passed.  Nice, huh?

  • Anonymous

    January 25, 2010Categories:DemocratsBerry: Obama said “big difference” between ’10 and ’94 is “me”

    Rep. Marion Berry’s parting shot, published in the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette [no link, subscription only] offers a warning to moderate Democrats and border state moderates — warning of a midterm bloodbath comparable to the 54-seat D-to-R swing in 1994.
    But the jaw-dropper is Berry’s claim that President Obama personally dismissed any comparison between Democrats now and under Bill Clinton 16 years ago — by saying his personal popularity would bail everybody out.
    The retiring Berry, who doesn’t say when the remarks were made, now scoffs at Obama’s 50-or-below approval rating:
    Writes ADG reporter Jane Fullerton
    January 25, 2010Categories:DemocratsBerry: Obama said “big difference” between ’10 and ’94 is “me”

    Politico.com
    Jan. 25, 2010

    Rep. Marion Berry’s parting shot, published in the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette [no link, subscription only] offers a warning to moderate Democrats and border state moderates — warning of a midterm bloodbath comparable to the 54-seat D-to-R swing in 1994.

    But the jaw-dropper is Berry’s claim that President Obama personally dismissed any comparison between Democrats now and under Bill Clinton 16 years ago — by saying his personal popularity would bail everybody out.

    The retiring Berry, who doesn’t say when the remarks were made, now scoffs at Obama’s 50-or-below approval rating:

    Writes ADG reporter Jane Fullerton

  • Anonymous

    BREEZE says:

    I don’t know why my name showed up as ‘guest’ and why the double post,
    anyway, here is the rest of the article:

    http://palinyoubetcha2012.com/wordpress/?p=8453

  • Kim

    Skelton is an idiot!  I cannot for the life of me understand why DADT hasn’t yet been rescinded by Obama.  He obviously never meant to do anything about it, and I don’t think he ever will, unless his hand is forced.  Other countries allowe gays and lesbians to serve openly in their military and they seem to be doing just fine.  No catastrophes have occured because of it.  Skelton is full of sh*t.

  • Guest

    Congressional negotiators and White House officials are moving forward with plans to add the repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell to the upcoming defense authorization bill, Democratic sources tell the Huffington Post.

    Currently, there is no precise calendar to consider the defense authorization bill. But the administration is expected to put forward its recommendations in February with the House of Representatives considering the bill in late April or May

  • getfitnow

    I wonder why the author isn’t being labeled a raaaacist–you know one of those that wants our “new young president to fail?”

    The hypocracy is deafening.

  • hot Librarian

    I read the Commondreams blog -wow -they are unhinged ! So the author is a Pol Sci prof at Hofstra!  Yikes ……He is unstable . Sure  Obama voters can be disappointed but this swing is lunatical.

    He could simply have said …I made a mistake . My mistake was mine & mine only. But for a prof to diss Nixon as a war evader is treasonous to education  Nixon was no such thing.I believe he served in the Pacific .

    And besides without Richard Nixon ,how would we have WaterGATE , ClimateGATE  etc. A marvellous advance in the english lnguage.

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