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Today We Are All Georgians

While my antipathy towards Barack Obama could not be greater, that has not translated into empathy or support for Senator McCain but if McCain’s speech today is any indication then I am growing increasingly comfortable with McCain.

No doubt, there are and will likely always be serious disagreements. McCain and I will never see eye-to-eye on gay rights. This is after all a gay blog (I know it’s hard to tell but if you met me you probably couldn’t tell either) and gay issues do and will always matter. But I have never been a single issue voter instead I vote values and worldview. Obama doesn’t share my values and his worldview is that of a child. Why can’t we all get along? Kumbaya my lord kumbaya. The world doesn’t work that way. Obama’s outlook is a recipe for disaster.

McCain’s approach is that of realist. He sees the dangers. He saw this one. Today is a somber day and we face the grim reality of a resurgent Russia unafraid to use its muscle to bully others around. Paranoia in Russia runs deep, it is almost part of their soul. Thus Russia lashes out rather seeking to engage. Talk to an Estonian, Pole, or Czech about Russia. Get their perspective.

Russia now looms large on the geo-political horizon. They still have nuclear weapons. Even more potent perhaps is that they have something the West needs, oil and natural gas. And Russia has already shown that it will use trade as a weapon. Convincing Russia that it belongs to the West will not be easy. Only the Russian people can make that decision but they have acquiesed with Russia’s headlong march into authoritarianism because Putin brought a measure of stability and consumer goods. We need to make Russia pay for this and pay hard. We need to limit the ability of Russians to travel abroad, freeze Russian accounts, prevent Russia from selling arms abroad. And we need to prevent a repeat of our loss in Georgia from happening elsewhere be that the Baltics or the Ukraine. Today we are all Georgians. Democracy matters. And that is really what this blog is about. Its writer just happens to be gay.

From my blog, By The Fault.

  • LoveHillary

    yes ,while there is few things about mccain that i am not happy with BUT YET THEY ARE SO FEW COMPARE TO EVERYTHING THAT I DISLIKE-DISAGREE WITH OBAMA IS A DR NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • LoveHillary

    OBAMA = DR. NOOOOOOOOO

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal Paul F. Villarreal

    If Obama is nominated, I feel that Dems who are pondering not voting at all are going to really need to think about voting for John McCain.

    If Obama and his thugs win, Democrats will have to live with the vindication of Obama’s campaign and the triumph of the coupists.

    To me, that is totally unacceptable.

    Country before party.

  • robert

    If Hillary by her own choice does not accept the nomination, this speech is one good reason to vote for grandpa Mac.

  • no waffles aka drkate

    in HRC’s statement on the Iraq war resolution, she mentioned that US agression in Iraq could give the green light to Russia to do exactly what they are doing now.

    Whatever is the next step, the US must proceed strategically. this is also very much about oil and other natural resources.

  • no waffles aka drkate

    I live in a red state that won’t go for obama, and I’m still voting for McCain just to make sure! down ticket dems may or may not get my vote, depending on how much koolaide they’ve had.

  • Bridgette

    I agree. There are some things, like gay marriage and abortion, that I disagree with McCain. But you have to pick your battles. A president with in depth knowledge of foreign policy is a must in my eyes. It’s the only way to keep us all safe. Obama is definitely not that man.

  • HARP

    Georgia: Hillary’s 3am Phone Call

    The Chicago Sun Times, B. Hussein’s home town newspaper, notes that McCain has it right on the Georgian crisis, not Obama.

    McCain, not Obama, was right about Georgia

    …One who was up to speed on Georgia and the menace it faced from Russia was veteran Sen. John McCain. He had visited the Caucasian nation three times in a dozen years. When fighting erupted, the presumptive Republican presidential candidate got on the phone to gather details and issued a statement Friday summarizing the situation, tagging Russia as the aggressor and demanding it withdraw its forces from the sovereign territory of Georgia.

    It took first-term Sen. Barack Obama three tries to get it right. Headed for a vacation in Hawaii, the presumed Democratic candidate for commander in chief issued an even-handed statement, urging restraint by both sides. Later Friday, he again called for mutual restraint but blamed Russia for the fighting. The next day his language finally caught up with toughness of McCain’s.

    Making matters worse, Obama’s staff focused on a McCain aide who had served as a lobbyist for Georgia, charging it showed McCain was “ensconced in a lobbyist culture.” Obama’s campaign came off as injecting petty partisan politics into an international crisis. This was not a serious response on behalf a man who aspires to be the leader of the Free World. After all, what’s so bad about representing a small former Soviet republic struggling to remake itself as a Western-style democracy?

  • Pink Panther

    John F. Kennedy

    “…..All free men, wherever they may live, are citizens of Berlin, and, therefore, as a free man, I take pride in the words Ich bin ein Berliner (“I am a ‘Berliner’”)

    Delivered June 26, 1963 in West Berlin

  • Auntie Meme

    Lulz watching all the PUMA racist Dems gradually talking themselves into pulling the Gooper lever

  • JB

    I spent my childhood in Russia and most Russians are not Westerners deep down. As long as they can get sausage and vodka in stores they could care less who the masters are. They think such notions as freedom and civil rights are naive and decadent and that the people need a firm hand. Russia will never become westernized because they are reflexively hostile (not merely unaccustomed) to the values required to allow this. It is a society and culture which swings between the extremes of utter repression and brutality (as under Stalin) and near-total corruption-as-a-way-of-life (as under Brezhnev.)

    Putin would eat Obambi’s lunch geopolitically. It’s not even a contest.

  • http://www.ushistory.org/Declaration/document/index.htm Hillary’sSimplytheBest

    Thanks Charles for the video clip.

    The way McCain spoke brought a tear to my eye. I trust McCain to keep us safe, I don’t trust Obama to do the same. Obama’s a spoiled child who’s not being straight with the American people regarding his past, BC and so many things. His lack of experience… and now I hear on FOX NEWS George Clooney is giving him advise on the Middle East… give me a break. What next…

  • HARP

    Ali Baba and the forty thieves.

  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=tristkiss trist

    It’s either going to be Hillary or McCain.
    There are no other options!

  • kinthenorthwest

    McCain put it so well. I guess that is why I am voting for him.

    But why do I have this sinking feeling that we will hear something very similar coming from Obama and his telepromter.

  • no waffles aka drkate

    anchovy. your only meme is to pull the race lever yourself

  • DoubleRider

    McCain’s speech was much more moving than Obama. Obama did not have a teleprompter, so he was unsteady. McCain’s speech was from the heart, so he did not need a teleprompter. Score one for McCain.

    Obamba 08!

  • http://www.ushistory.org/Declaration/document/index.htm Hillary’sSimplytheBest

    LOL …

  • HillFan2012

    THE TRAITOR DOPE-BAMA IS JUST FINE WITH RUSSIANS SENDING TROOPS TO GEORGIA. MY NEW HERO JOHN MCCAIN SOUNDS LIKE A TRUE PRESIDENT WHEN HE SPEAKS!

    WE ALL KNOW THAT A REAL PRESIDENT HAS GRAY HAIR! JOKE-BAMA HAS ALL BLACK HAIR, AND IT IS CURLY AND NAPPY TOO BOOT!

    BUT I WONDER HOW BAD THE SITUATION IN GEORGIA REALLY IS? I JUST SPOKE TO MY SISTER IN ATLANTA AND SHE SAYS SHE IS FINE AND HAS SEEN NO FIGHTING. COULD THE MEDIA BE HYPING THIS STORY TO DISTRACT FROM GAY-BAMA’S FAKE BIRTH CERTIFACATE?

  • HillFan2012

    IF FOX NEWS SAYS IT IT MUST BE TRUE! THEY ARE THE MOST FAIR NEWS NETWORK, UNLIKE MSNBC AND CNN WHO ARE IN THE TANK FOR OBAMA!

    FOX NEWS IS THE ONLY NETWORK THAT IS FAIR TO HILLARY! ALL TRUE DEMOCRATS KNOW THAT FOX NEWS IS THE BEST!

  • http://investigatebarackobama.wordpress.com/puma/ kat in your hat

    I can’t help it. McCain’s words comforted me and helped me to see which country to identify with as a democracy.

    It was not clear with Obama.

    Lead me. I am your American citizen. I have a loud mouth and a big heart. For now at least, tell me what is right…I want a leader.

  • Ted

    Does it interest the author of this and the preceding post that McCin has also called for a United Nations Security Council resolution condemning Russian aggression? Does this make him a moron too?

    How about the fact McCain has called for the withdrawal of Russian forces from Georgian territory, and he also proposed an emergency NATO session and a peacekeeping force in Georgia.

    Exact text from Monday speech by McCain: “The United States and our allies should continue efforts to bring a resolution before the UN Security Council condemning Russian aggression, noting the withdrawal of Georgian troops from South Ossetia, and calling for an immediate ceasefire and the withdrawal of Russian troops from Georgian territory. We should move ahead with the resolution despite Russian veto threats, and submit Russia to the court of world public opinion.”

    Sometimes we wish so hard for something, we are blinded by reality.

  • http://www.ushistory.org/Declaration/document/index.htm Hillary’sSimplytheBest

    I hear ya… for me too.

    I thought of writing Hillary’s name in as we can do that in MA. But since we’re such a loyal blue state I will vote for Mac just to keep O’bummers numbers down.

  • http://www.greensunshine.net jadwiga

    I grew up in Hungary. My family members were prosecuted for their political and religious beliefs. I was two years old when the Russian Army broke down our fight for freedom. I was quite young when they did the same in Czechoslovakia.

    Russia has been and wants to be an empire again. It is not in their psyche to understand freedom or sympathize with nations who want freedom.

    They will never stop wanting to control more of the world.

    Obama doesn’t understand this. He thinks, he can change the mind of the Russian leaders with some kind words. He is a total moron. He doesn’t know the first thing about diplomacy.

    Making statements doesn’t change a thing. Taking actions does. Such as getting Georgia and Ukraine in to NATO.

    The Old Warrior knows it first hand how successful are just words versus firm actions – or even the prospect of those firm actions.

    Many Americans believe that we have to keep our house in a good shape and the rest is not our problem.

    It is our problem. We do have to keep our house in good order and we do have to help peace in the world. If we don’t do that, it will come back to us with a vengeance.

    Obama’s dangerous inexperience is unacceptable. This was his 3:00 am call and he failed it.

    We all have to go to vote against him. We all have to minimize his chance to become the President of the USA.

  • K Bentley

    Many Democrats in power are planning on Obama having good advisers to instruct him how to act in major crisis. What kind of craziness is that? Who could back someone that doesn’t have a reasonable amount of good sense? And, since when did Obama take advice? He’s too arrogant to rely on good advice and that’s why he’s constantly making these gaffs.

    They aren’t going to give Hillary a just convention. Already the kool aid drinkers are bad mouthing her for putting her name in nomination. But if it were the opposit, and it were Obama looking for a nomination, you’d bet he’d get it. I’m urging all that is reading this, if Hillary is not the nominee, we work just as hard for McCain to defeat Obama. I’ve had it with the stupid moves of the Democratic Party. I won’t even vote for Obama if Hillary is his vp. NO OBAMA!

  • kinthenorthwest

    Ted if any parts of Obama’s speech duplicated McCain it was probably wqas not heard due to his stuttering, many misprononciations of simple words, and need to repeat sentences he did not read from the telprompter right.
    If any of my students had screwed up such an important speech as that like Obama did, they would have gotten a very poor grade.

  • http://www.greensunshine.net jadwiga

    I wouldn’t overestimate their fairness. It is their current interest to show some balance.

    Sometimes they say things that are so lame I could scream.

    They were fair with Hillary but not exactly the knight in shining armor.

  • http://www.ushistory.org/Declaration/document/index.htm Hillary’sSimplytheBest

    He’s a parrot, that’s why. He hears things and then repeats them just like a parrot, no? He’s a MacParrot. LOL … sorry … it’s late… and I’m losing it. LOL

  • HillFan2012

    I AGREE! HELL, I WON’T EVEN VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRATS IF HILLARY IS THE NOMINEE! WE MUST PUNISH THE DEMOC-RATS TO SAVE THEM!

    PLUS, IT WOULD SERVE ALL OF THESE DOPED-OUT COLLEGE KIDS RIGHT IF MCCAIN TAKES AWAY ROE V WADE AND WHATNOT! LET THEM FEEL LIKE IT WAS FOR US BACK IN THE 60S AND EARLY 70S!

    ONCE THESE B*TCHES WHO VOTED FOR CRAP-BAMA OVER HILLARY HAVE HAD A FEW YEARS OF BACK-ALLEY ABORTIONS, THEY’LL COME CRAWLING BACK TO OUR SIDE! THEY WILL NEVER AGAIN VOTE FOR AN UNQUALIFIED BLACK MAN OVER A WHITE WOMAN AGAIN!

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal Paul F. Villarreal

    Good thinking, Dr. Kate.

    I feel the same way. There’s a real chance that I won’t be voting for downticket Dems in order to let the DNC know that their farce this year will not be tolerated.

    Thanks for all the research you’ve been doing for TD and in general.

    :)

  • http://investigatebarackobama.wordpress.com/puma/ kat in your hat

    I believe John McCain should exploit his age and wisdom in the sense that it is comforting, and somehow protective.

    I feel SO scared with Obama for president. I don’t want McCain, I want Hillary, but McCain at least, for ONCE during the past several months made me feel a little ok.

    Dear McCain big tops:

    Push him as a protective and comforting leader. You ought to understand that many of us are scared with the prospect of an inexperienced and blase candidate such as Obama.

    PLEASE. Please someone come out to lead and make me believe again. I am so worried for the USA I have actually shed tears. I feel like we are in limbo, without any guidance, please…let’s make it right. If not Hillary, make it McCain, I can’t deal with Obama.

  • Darryl

    I am gay and I did some research on this. McCain doesn’t agree with gay marriage ban, in fact he voted against it in Congress. This is a MAJOR misconception with McCain.

  • http://www.ushistory.org/Declaration/document/index.htm Hillary’sSimplytheBest

    I agree…

    It’s a little spooky at FOX NEWS right now as they are being soooo nice to O… I think though after the convention if O’s the one all hell will break loose, just a little…

    from FOX with Love… to O

  • Freedom Fighter

    You can’t really take what McCain has to say seriously. I mean one of his senior advisors was a lobbyist for Georgia. McCain cannot act as a honest broker in this matter. Barack Obama is the only one with the charismatic and diplomatic know how to bring about peace is the Caucasus.

  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=tristkiss trist

    I thought about writing in her name too, but my state doesn’t allow it. I’m in OK. It doesn’t really matter since there is no WAY we will go for Obambi! However if it turns out to be Hillary, I think she COULD take this state. With such strong ties to AK. There is a spill over effect. She won here in the primary easily.

    It wouldn’t be an easy fight in the general, but I think it’s one she could win!

  • http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=tristkiss trist

    Oooops that should be AR not AK! ^_^

  • M2Sense

    I am a Lesbian they say. Of course, I always hated that word. Gay sounds so much sweeter. So, I will just be Gay.

    Anyway, Obama is not Pro-LGBT. I never thought any politicians who make to the Big Tent are anyway. I mean, everyone should know that Ronald Reagan knew lots of LGBT in Hollywood. But that does not mean that he did anything for us.

    Neither Obiwannebi or Make my McCain Day is going to bring Equality to America. At least McCain is not going to push the Nuke Button and say, “Oops, I meant to press the other button.”

  • Ms. Misdemeanor

    Very Well Said.

  • CognitiveDissonance

    Eloquent post, Charles. I’ve been reading your blog every day for more news on this front. You have more understanding of what is happening than any of the sorry idiots in the MSM.

    And I agree with your assessment of McCain. He has far more of a nuanced understanding of the world and the big picture than Obama will ever have. I trust his judgment more in this area than Obama’s – or his puppetmasters, for that matter. I’m also gay, and I’m used to our issues being ignored. But I have a sense that McCain will at least not make anything worse in that regard. And right now, we’re having more luck on that front by slowly changing laws in various states.

  • Yve

    McCain obviously has the skills and experience to lead. DNC Leaders don’t even realize they’re being given a second chance by placing Hillary’s name in nomination. What a bunch of Dumb Asses.

  • http://www.ushistory.org/Declaration/document/index.htm Hillary’sSimplytheBest

    I wont be voting for Kerry this fall, however now I hear (on FOX NEWS) he may be the VP pick for O… Oh well to birds with one stone I guess.

    Oh wait, how does that work? If Kerry’s up for re-election this fall but runs as the VP with O does he lose his Sen. seat if O loses? He can’t run for both.

  • http://www.ushistory.org/Declaration/document/index.htm Hillary’sSimplytheBest

    However if it turns out to be Hillary, I think she COULD take this state.

    I think she could too :)

  • cdo

    this comment is satire right?

  • cdo

    please tell me you are kidding

  • http://www.lesstalkmoreactivism.blogspot.com whoframedrudy

    “Many Democrats in power are planning on Obama having good advisers to instruct him how to act in major crisis.”

    Yes, and my answer to those Dems is that Dick Cheney was a brilliant adviser when he answered to a competent President (Bush I) and a disaster when he served an unqualified President (Bush). Dems don’t know anything about the Executive Branch. Except for Bill and Hil, they’ve never been near it.

  • cdo

    Obama is the only one with the charismatic and diplomatic know how to bring about peace is the Caucasus

    are you really trying to tell people that Obama is going to smooth-talk the world into being nice?
    are you retarded?
    have you ever read a book, like a history book, that dealt with past diplomatic situations? Like the Yalta conference, or Paris 1919… anything that might clue you into to what a fucking idiot you sound like?

  • http://www.ushistory.org/Declaration/document/index.htm Hillary’sSimplytheBest

    I agree…

    “There are none so blind as those who will not see. The most deluded people are those who choose to ignore what they already know”. – John Heywood 1546

  • JozefAL

    Well, the Russians have historically had nothing but authoritarian leaders. The tsars were absolutists (even the most liberal of the bunch made only modest positive changes for the non-aristocrats). Then came the October Revolution. A quasi-democratic provisional government took power but the leadership had no opportunity to do much when the Bolsheviks took over. Most historians believe the provisional government would have ended up with a leadership that would have simply been a right-wing dictatorship instead of the Communist dictatorship that developed.
    After the Communists finally took full control and established the USSR, it was merely another 7 decades of the same authoritarian rule that had been the norm for the previous 4 centuries.
    Putin is nothing but a Communist posing as a democratic leader and, in his case, the old adage about a leopard and its spots is true.

  • jwrjr

    Having no visible “common sense”, the DNC and their “poster child” B. Hussein Obama Soetoro deserve to lose big time.

  • larryisaliar

    zzzzzz boring. the conflict ended.

  • HARP

    Sen. Chuck Hagel, a Nebraska Republican who is one of John McCain’s closest friends — but who has been mentioned as a potential running mate for Democrat Barack Obama — is sitting out the presidential contest, according to his spokesman, Jordan Stark. (USA TODAY’s Kathy Kiely reporting and writing.)

    “Senator Hagel has no intention of getting involved in any of the campaigns and is not planning to endorse either candidate,” Stark said in a statement to USA TODAY.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/12/obama-loses-hagel/

  • lmv

    Unlike Obama, I traveled the world after I was 6. (And before, but that doesn’t count.)

    People are not the same everywhere. Cultures are not the same. Look at the Chinese, on grand display this week. Certainly, the people who leave want a different life. There are brave dissidents who want to change China but they also want to stay to do so. But, that leaves about a billion people who take comfort in their government’s ways. For the most part, if they stay out of trouble, they’ll have acceptable lives.

    The Russians aren’t like us. They long for the days of their Benevolent Dictator, Catherine the Great. They want to be a world power and reap the benefits of being an empire.

    They must be stopped.

  • Mr.Murder

    Enough parody trolling, please.

  • lmv

    I’m so frustrated by that.

    They created these stupid superdelegates (cronyism of the worst kind) to PREVENT this kind of catastrophe.

    And, where are the supers? Lined up waiting to get their copy of “Dreams” or “Audacity” signed.

    O-boy-he’s-an-idiot’s speech in Hawaii – coming to a Republican battlground 527 near you!

  • The Real Hope

    It gets back to what Teddy Roosevelt said about the Russians, that they were not only liars but they were also stupid.

    I think we can use the present tense in this case with Georgia. A dangerous bunch of bully who have a habit of rolling over countries they don’t like! They are all a bunch of thugs!

  • http://www.ushistory.org/Declaration/document/index.htm Hillary’sSimplytheBest

    That’s good news… No one want’s to be BOBO’s VP, accept maybe Kerry the bum and a few other dumb bums as well…

  • joe

    Will you please stop your abusive, disgusting, and misleading trolling? Your not fooling anybody “HillFan”. Make some productive use of your time and discuss the issues with your fellow brain dead Bambi supporters. We don’t need your clever racist comments to tarnish our discussion. Please leave and never come back!!

  • Obama Is So Yesterday

    “There are two sides to every issue, and Obama takes both”

  • http://www.ushistory.org/Declaration/document/index.htm Hillary’sSimplytheBest

    O-boy-he’s-an-idiot’s speech in Hawaii – coming to a Republican battlground 527 near you!

    LOL.. LOL …

    Did you see Nancy POO-LOSIE on CNN Larry King? What a deluded nut cake she is.

  • samb

    I saw T.V coverage of a peace rally in Georgia American flags were waving I heard that the President of Georgia repeated what McCain said ” Today We are Georgians” and the crowd cheered. McCain made Obama look like a amateur.

  • ziggy

    John McCain obviously has no such thing. What John McCain obviously has is foreign policy advisor named Randy Scheunemann. Randy Scheunemann has a long history.

    Until April 2008 Randy Scheunemann was a lobbyist directly employed by The Republic of Georgia–the registered agent of a foreign government. In April 2008 he ceased working directly for Georgia. Orion Strategies–a limited liability corporation Scheunemann has ownership interest in–picked up the $200,000 lobbying contract. Hey Presto! Scheunemann can work for John McCain and advocate for Georgia with no pesky conflict of interest problems!

    One of Scheunemann’s specialties is representing former Soviet block nations that hope to get into NATO. He has also worked as an agent for Romania and Latvia. He’s toured all over the place as part of John McCain’s entourage. It’s a very cozy relationship.

    Scheunemann has more history than that. He is on the board of directors of Project for a New American Century, and President of their Committee for the Liberation of Iraq. (Are alarm buzzers sounding and red warning lights flashing yet?) PNAC is the neoconservative think tank that planned and advocated the U.S. invasion of Iraq before 9/11–before George W. Bush had even been elected president. Cheney was also deeply involved with PNAC. When Bush and Cheney were elected, the Bush administration was quickly filled up with PNAC people. The BIG PLAN went right along with them.

    So, why was McCain so quick to come up with a policy statement following the Georgian military incursion into South Ossetia? Why were McCain’s statements totally supportive of Georgia, and full of nothing but condemnation for Russia? Why did they characterize the whole thing as an act of Russian aggression, while totally disregarding Georgia’s obvious instigation, that resulted in the deaths of 1,600 civilians and 10 UN-sanctioned Russian peacekeepers before Russia had even crossed the border in response? And why all the quick reference to NATO involvement?

    The answers aren’t hard to figure out.

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    “Sometimes we wish so hard for something, we are blinded by reality.”

    We’ve been saying that about you Obot Zombies for months. Glad to see you are finally getting it.

  • Robert Brooks

    Don’t know what to say here. Aggression by a major power against a small relatively powerless nation in the 21st century didn’t just began. GW Bush led that charge with the unwarranted invasion of Iraq in 2002 which is a war that John McCain voted for and continues to support. Hillary Clinton also voted for the AUMF.

    That said, I have every confidence that had Barack Obama actually faced the decision of supporting or not supporting the AUMF in the United States Senate, he would have voted for it as well. The way he stood up to hang tough against the FISA bill which gutted the 4th amendment and retroactively legalized the crimes of the Bush admin and the telcos tells me all I need to know about Barack Obama and his ability to hang tough.

    I would trust Hillary Clinton to deal with the Russia-Georgia crisis. I might trust John McCain. Barack Obama? Not so much.

  • John Q.

    “At least McCain is not going to push the Nuke Button and say, “Oops, I meant to press the other button.””

    You’re kidding, right? The guy who joked about “bomb, bomb, Iran!”? McCain is a loose cannon, has surrounded himself with the worst of the Cheney neo-con crowd and wants nothing more than to get us into another war. He’s a disaster waiting to happen.

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    McCain got 200,000 Georgians to wave US flags and cheer for him, and he did not even have to go on a pretend “World Tour” to do it.

  • samb

    You got that right.

  • HARP

    The Chicago Sun Times, B. Hussein’s home town newspaper, notes that McCain has it right on the Georgian crisis, not Obama.

    McCain, not Obama, was right about Georgia

    …One who was up to speed on Georgia and the menace it faced from Russia was veteran Sen. John McCain. He had visited the Caucasian nation three times in a dozen years. When fighting erupted, the presumptive Republican presidential candidate got on the phone to gather details and issued a statement Friday summarizing the situation, tagging Russia as the aggressor and demanding it withdraw its forces from the sovereign territory of Georgia.

    It took first-term Sen. Barack Obama three tries to get it right. Headed for a vacation in Hawaii, the presumed Democratic candidate for commander in chief issued an even-handed statement, urging restraint by both sides. Later Friday, he again called for mutual restraint but blamed Russia for the fighting. The next day his language finally caught up with toughness of McCain’s.

    Making matters worse, Obama’s staff focused on a McCain aide who had served as a lobbyist for Georgia, charging it showed McCain was “ensconced in a lobbyist culture.” Obama’s campaign came off as injecting petty partisan politics into an international crisis. This was not a serious response on behalf a man who aspires to be the leader of the Free World. After all, what’s so bad about representing a small former Soviet republic struggling to remake itself as a Western-style democracy?

  • ziggy

    The events of the 2008 South Ossetia War; all the known details in chronological order:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_South_Ossetia_war

    Russia wasn’t the aggressor John McCain has suggested, nor was Georgia an innocent victim. McCain’s take seems to me like a serious distortion, running contrary to all evidence.

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    The clue to who is more dangerous is in your own words. You say McCain is “The guy who joked”.

    Obambi was not joking when he said he pushed the wrong buttons. He was dead on serious. Heart attack serious. A confused puppy, but serious.

    As for joking, Obambi and the Obots are as humorless as crabs on a crotch.

    But, I am sure you, Obambi and MEchelle think you get humor. Like Steve Martin said “Everyone thinks they have a sense of humor, even people who don’t”

  • HARP

    One ought never to turn one’s back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half.

    Sir Winston Churchill

  • Tony Stark

    Hillary = 007

  • samb

    I wonder how Obama would really handle the 3 am wake up call, Oh I know call someone else then pretend it was his idea.

  • ziggy

    Making matters worse, Obama’s staff focused on a McCain aide who had served as a lobbyist for Georgia, charging it showed McCain was “ensconced in a lobbyist culture.”

    That’s exactly where the focus needs to be. When you closely examine the actual events of the last few days, you’ll discover that they bear little resemblance to the situation as it was summarized by John McCain.

    The person the presumptive republican candidate got on the phone with to get details from was probably none other than Randy Scheunemann.

    It appears that Russia is already showing restraint. If you want to credit that to McCain’s cockeyed view of events, his one-sided placing of the blame, and the tough talk he’d have been hard-put to back up with action, I suppose you can go ahead and do that. The truth is that Russia could have utterly flattened Georgia and nobody would have been in a position to do a damn thing about it.

  • doctorwang

    COULD THE MEDIA BE HYPING THIS STORY TO DISTRACT FROM GAY-BAMA’S FAKE BIRTH CERTIFACATE?

    I wouldn’t put it past them. Especially since we are so close to cracking the case. Has your sister checked out Macon, by chance?

  • doctorwang

    “crabs on a crotch” LMFAO!!!!!! That is FUNNY!!!!

  • HARP

    Thankfully, Obama will not disappoint any of his “change” and “hope” crowd. He is right now spending a great time at his multimillion dollar rental home in Hawaii, relaxing from the “stress” and great “pressure” that running around singing praises about yourself can causes the body and mind. All the while, his idiotic supporters think that he is somehow concerned about their social misery, economic suffering, and lack of political representation.

    What these Obamanites must understand is, that they are in the precense of the Puff Daddy of American politics. And while all of them may want to “work for Diddy”, he is happy to send you in stupid errands on his behalf, only to prove that he can and will use you to his complete satisfaction. It is not John McCain who is humiliating you by pointing out the truth, it is Obama who is using your stupidity to his advantage.

    Don’t worry, someone else can deal with the “difficult stuff” on Obama’s behalf. But who do you REALLY want to end up picking up that already infamous “red phone” in the White House?

  • doctorwang

    Putin cited the U.S. invasion of Iraq when he was justifying Russia’s current actions.

  • Jim S

    Kerry refused to give up his Senate when he ran for President in 2004 so if he were Bambi’s pick for VP why would he give up his seat this time. If, God forbid, Obama wins and Kerry has a place in his administration, VP or otherwise, Kerry would then have to give up his seat.

    If Kerry gets reelected and then selected by Obama, Governor Duval Patrick, would probably try to appoint himself to take Kerry’s place. At that point he will find out that racism is alive and well in Massachusetts.

    Kerry will have a hard time this year. I think his seat may be in jeopardy. His endorsement of Obama, after the voters went for Hillary was perceived by many as a slap in the face. This will be the first chance people have had to get back at him for what they see as a betrayal.

  • Richard Hussein Cheney

    Former GOP Rep Jim Leach says Obama is the true realist

    Leach said he expects a lot of GOP’s and independents will support Obama. More:

    “In my judgment there’s a difference between realism and pseudo-realism,” Leach said. “The pseudo-realists believe that we can operate in the world alone, that expanding international law doesn’t matter, that things like arms control are false starts.”

    “You try to work with allies, rather than without them,” Leach added. “And that is the kind of realism that I think is common sense to the vast majority of the American people, and that’s what Senator Obama is reflecting in so many of his speeches.”

  • HARP

    As the U.S. figures out what to do about the Russia-Georgian war, it should bear in mind that the world is watching very closely. Georgia has proved itself as a true friend and ally of the United States; it has sent thousands of troops from its small army to help the U.S. efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Sure the Georgians got themselves into this conflict by launching a bid to recapture South Ossetia. But it wasn’t unprovoked – the Russians have been building up the government and armed forces of the breakaway province for years, and have been applying every kind of pressure to stop Georgia joining NATO, including aggressive measures like shooting down a Georgian aircraft earlier this year. And the Russians are in no position to criticize Georgia’s efforts to recapture breakaway territory given the tens of thousands the Russians killed to reverse Chechnya’s attempts to break free.

    As Russian bombs rain down on key Georgian military bases, Ukraine and the Baltic states know all too well that they are next on the list for Russian invasion – probably with the same pretext of protecting Russian citizens – if the Kremlin gets away with crushing Georgia.

    Also watching what happens in the Caucasus with one eye on the U.S. will be allied countries like Taiwan (it knows that U.S. corporations have long been pushing successive U.S. administrations to abandon Taiwanese democracy), Pakistan (it’s been dumped before), India, Turkey, the Gulf states, Israel, Iraq, Afghanistan, Japan, Australia, and Colombia… the list goes on.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/11/opinion/main4340027.shtml

  • Jim S

    If Hillary is not on the ballot, do not, I repeat, do not write her in. It may make you feel better, but any write in or third party vote is one more chance of Obama winning the election and one less chance of his losing.

  • ziggy

    John McCain was the guy who quickly started raising the bets with the Russians by talking publicly about NATO involvement.

    That’s a bit alarming, when you consider that he not only had most of his facts wrong, but also wasn’t in a position to make decisions or issue policy statements in the first place.

    The only person who should have been speaking officially on behalf of the United States was George W. Bush.

  • Jim S

    Anything typed in all caps and I skip the post.

  • candymarl

    Thank you Mr. Murder. If it were either entertaining or funny well… But it’s neither.

  • candymarl

    Yes when Obama reads his foreign policy speech from the teleprompter the world will swoon.

    Then Obama will pass the world a bottle of water.

    Then all will be well.

  • http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

    If we can’t have Hillary as our nominee, I would not be opposed in any way if McCain chose to reach “across the aisle” and tap her as HIS VP.
    I also think that, on his ticket, she would retain the dignity and honor she has shown. She would be taking the high road, although still only as VP, but NOT as Obama’s VP, which would be a slap in the face to any REAL, seasoned, decent public servant.
    What kind of person who is more qualified than obama want to be his vp? Anyone that would settle for such a position wouldn’t be more qualified afterall, they would be of no moral or ethical value.
    A McCain/Clinton ticket would be REAL “Change we can believe in”. Can you imagine? A historic moment, whithin a historic moment whithin a historic moment. And possibly our salvation as a country.

  • http://investigatebarackobama.wordpress.com/puma/ kat in your hat

    Is this true?

  • http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

    obama has no diplomatic know how nor does he have any type of leadership ability.
    obama is not fit for the office of POTUS any more than george bush is/was. They are opposite sides of the same coin and that coin has no value.

    If not Hillary, then McCain 08

  • loyal9

    i agree with some of what you said on mccain,values and character are important,a wifebeater and a philanderer,hmn,the bar is lowered,next election we will see a pedophile running for prez.

  • http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

    yeah, “that’s not the nuke button that I use to know”.
    Obama is just an absolute disaster.
    I wonder if we had the primaries today instead of several months ago, what the outcome would be?

  • http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

    “and that’s what Senator Obama is reflecting in so many of his speeches.”

    Just words
    very empty words

  • wodiej

    I am among many who did not select McCain as my first choice. That obviously was Hillary. I do not agree with him on some issues as well. However like others my concern and love for this country comes first right now.

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    Obama is, to my view, a bit “sketchy” on the gay rights issues. To put it nicely.

    On the one hand, he mouths words (just words) that sort of suggest that he’s all for gay rights, sort of…kinda supporting those civil unions in a somewhat lukewarm fashion (no MARRIAGE, though–because marriage is…hahahahaha….RELIGIOUS! What a joke! The “sanctity” of a fifty percent divorce rate!!).

    Then, on the other hand, in a nudge-wink gesture crafted and calculated to specifically placate his AA base during the primary season, a fair portion of which is beyond homophobic (indeed, they’re actually BIGOTS when it comes to gays–and they use RELIGION as their excuse, too), he puts Donnie “Closet Queen/PRAY Away The Gay” McClurkin on his South Carolina “If You Don’t Love Me, You’re a Racist” tour, accompanied by another “I can SCHOOL you outta your gayness” minister, a rather perky fellow by the name of Kirbyjon Caldwell.

    Oh, and that Kirbyjon feller? He’s the guy seen marrying Jenna Bush to her beau at the Crawford Pig Farm. He’s one of George Bush’s personal ministers and spiritual advisors; he attended the RNC convention last time around. He’s told Bush he supports Obama, and Bush “understands.”

    I’d hardly call Obama particularly steadfast on the gay issue. This “having it both ways” bullshit with Caldwell and McClurkin shows him for the two-faced flipflopper he is on this issue.

    I think he’d throw the entire gay community under that bus with everyone else if push came to shove, and he risked losing a larger voting bloc than the gay community could make up for him. He doesn’t really believe, I think, that gay rights are human rights.

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    Lieberman stayed on both ballots…he wasn’t stupid. He ran for reelection to the Senate the same year he ran as VP.

  • ALLY BABA WAN KENOBE

    Obama is awful as far as American security is concerned as well as world security! The other great danger with Obama is our personal freedoms at home! The “chosen one” will attempt to create a leftist/ socialist domestic security apparatus with Obama bot internet monitors much like the thought police in 1984! and also “neighborhood ‘ committees Modeled after communist china that will “rat out capitalist roaders” It will be government theft of middle class and entrepreneurial class equity on a huge scale all in the name of “reparations”!The chosen one’ will gut and destroy America as we know it and gut and destroy our worldwide security apparatus which will surely lead to anarchy and worldwide economic collapse! Hillary now! if not, Mcain 08! Hillary 2012!

  • ALLY BABA WAN KENOBE

    Obama =Mugabe economic and govt. policy for America!

  • DAB

    I really don’t think that McCain will be aggressively against gay rights or abortion because he pays lip service to these Republican platform issues but never pushes them. He is also progressive on the environment and I agree with many here that he is a realist at a time when that is sorely needed.

    I decided that I must vote for McCain to help defeat Obama because if I don’t the Dems will never change and will give him whatever his little heart desires. Besides I keep on reminding myself that McCain is rumored to have voted for Gore, toyed with the idea of becoming a Dem and was scouted out to be Kerry’s VP.

    I understand that McCain can accept public donations through the end of this month only if you are interested.

  • http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

    I think this is important in showing the difference in Obama and McCain. Obama made a statement, then McCain made a statment, then Obama changed his 180 degrees to match McCain’s more closely.
    Obama is born to be a follower, not a leader. He is not capable of even making an intelligent comment on an important issue. How can we trust obama with the highest office in the land when his opinion changes with the way the wing blows?
    McCain is a leader, Obama is a follower. I support a leader for POTUS, not a follower.

    If not Hillary, then McCain 08

    I’ve updated and tried to improve my blog if anyone is interested in checking it out.
    http://purplechiten.wordpress.com
    Thanks!

  • http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

    I agree. I think McCain is comfortable with gays and he wouldn’t really pursue taking rights away and may surprise us by actually allowing progress in the matter.
    I believe obama to be very homophobic due to accusations that he participated in gay sex with Larry Sinclair (and I believe he did) and as a result, would throw gays under the bus with everyone else.

  • http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

    He’s also suspected of being on the down-low (participates in gay sex himself, aka Larry Sinclair)

  • http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

    It’s suspected we’ve had those already

  • http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

    As long as george bush is in office, there isn’t anything we can do about any other country’s bullying of a smaller one. Since bush was the ring leader and opened the flood gate, he is hardly in any position to tell others they can’t do the same and with our military stretched so thin, we can’t back up any threat he may make. Bush is a lame duck president and has made us a lame duck Country.
    Hillary could handle this, McCain could probably handle this, obama would run from it and wouldn’t be able to do anything. He’s George bush’s flip side.

    http://purplechiten.wordpress.com

  • beebop

    Think about the best case scenario … Kerry loses twice … one as VP and one as Senator … sweet! I am sure those pictures with nubile young girls will go a long way, don’t you?

  • http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

    shouldn’t it be:
    “There are two sides to every issue, and obama takes all three” ? :)

  • http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

    just like in the primaries, obama lets the other person answer and then says the same thing (if it sounds good). He not capable of making a decision on his own.
    obama is a follower, not a leader. We need a leader in the White House.
    McCain’s not my first pick, but if I can’t have Hillary, then he’s the best option against Obama.

  • wodiej

    McCain is more towards the center than far right like Bush. So any Obama supporters who want to try to use that talking point are full of it. I agree, I don’t believe McCain is interested in taking away anyone’s rights.

  • http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

    Bush’s invasion gave other countries the option to do the same. Just hope China or Japan don’t decide they need to free us from our terroristic regime before we can get bush out of office!

    http://purplechiten.wordpress.com

  • navyvet48

    You are wrong. Dead wrong. McCain has been speaking about the dangers of Russia for many years. His thoughts have been recorded as far back as 1999. He warned the US long before the primaries about Putin and his desires.

    Even common sense should tell you there was something fishy in Russia. First Medevev was handpicked by Putin as President. Then Putin installs himself as Prime Minister. Russia and Putin are a danger to all those countries who are leaning left!

    This has nothing to do with lobbyists….I am however glad that man is on McCain’s side because he comes with real knowledge of the issues in Georgia.

    I truly enjoyed McCain’s fine words. They show real true foreign relations. McCain did make me feel safer. His words were more than a little touching, they were from the heart.

    Obama not so much…leaders like Putin will eat him up and spit him. His naivete is scary. Obama’s policy of talking without preconditions makes him a national security threat!

  • DAB

    This post from Marsh was featured on Real Clear Politics site. Its interesting because it shows how some prominent Dems find it difficult to speak ill of McCain. Of course Marsh dislikes their fits of honesty but what else would you expect from her.

    http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=28209

  • Katmoon

    Perhaps more so like the Georgians than we know;

    WASHINGTON (CNN) — A team of international observers will monitor the presidential election in November, according to the U.S. State Department.
    The Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe was invited to monitor the election by the State Department. The observers will come from the OSCE’s Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights.
    It will be the first time such a team has been present for a U.S. presidential election.

    cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/08/international.observers/index.html

  • Katmoon

    Ok that last post needs to be removed, it was in error, and should not have been posted, so admin. please remove, if possible.

  • basil

    Actually, the correct phrase is

    Ich bin Berliner.

    Ich bin EIN Berliner means ‘I am a jelly donut.:

    :wink:

  • SandyS

    Dear Charles

    Thank you so much for your post. It’s true, I have never voted Republican because I am also gay. But I am not a one issue person, either. I will not tolerate an idiot for a president after the past 8 years. I will not tolerate someone who runs roughshod over our Constitution after the past 8 years. I will not tolerate racism, sexism, or homophobia from a Democrat. I expect those things from Republicans, not Democrats. So, since I am both a Democrat and an American, I will vote for McCain if I have no other choice this fall. (I still hold a faint hope that somehow Clinton will rise.) I want my party back, but more importantly, I want my country back. I know for me, this is the hardest choice that I have ever made and it sounds like it will be for you, as well. I truly wish that the Democratic Party would realize the position that Obama and the DNC has put us in instead of trying to blame the victims.

  • http://liberalrapture.com scott in jupiter

    And they are delicious.

  • basil

    Russian serfdom and American Slavery have a lot in common.
    Both groups were ‘freed’ in the late 19th century. (Bosnia and Herzegovina didn’t abolish the practice until 1918)
    Serfs (unfree peasants under feudalism) were not imported to Russia as they belonged, at birth, to the land owned by the upper classes.
    The Russian people know all too well the conditions of bondage. (Read Gogol’s Lost Soul’s for a first-hand description. Actually, his protagonist’s scheme of registering DEAD peasants is eerily similar to Obama’s)

    Interesting that you never hear about descendants of serfs demanding anything from former serf-owners.

  • Katmoon

    My apologies for the old article, this should have had the link and information regarding the 2008 elections not 2004.(that’s why I asked below for the post to be removed). The correction for 2008 elections is below.

    Here is the proper link
    osce.org/odihr/32434.html

  • MEchelle Hates America!

    Why the hell would anyone care if the writer of a post about Georgia being invaded was gay?

    What am I missing here?

  • Katmoon

    Sandy~ My father in his late 70′s is gay, and has had some of the same feelings you are expressing. He has decided to vote for Senator MCCain, and has yet to be able to discuss the democratic primaries without getting upset(me either for that matter). What is amazing to me, is how he is willing to yet again put aside a issue of great importance, to vote country first. He has never been a one issue person, but after a lifetime of prejudice against lifestyle, I never cease to be amazed at what a beautiful role model my father has been to be.

  • Katmoon

    `I meant`been to me~

  • C.S.

    I don’t fully agree with any candidate on every issue but Congress makes the laws, not the president. The president’s job is to protect and defend our Constitution and to represent the United States internationally. Congress declares war; the Commander in Chief carries out that declaration of war.

    IF Obama understood the history our nation has gone through with the USSR he might not see the retaking of Georgia as such a small matter. No, he isn’t president yet, he isn’t even a candidate for president yet but he is quick to take world tours announcing he is the symbol the world has been waiting for and if he is then we expect more from him than what he has given so far.

    Both Senators Clinton and McCain have shown the world that they are a force to be reckoned with. Obama, who has never held one committee meeting on Afghanistan because he didn’t have time because he was running for president, is off on vacation even though his campaign is unfinished and the Senate requires his attention.

    The last time we had a vacation oriented president al Qaida slipped through our defenses on September 11, 200l and New Orleans drowned while he attended a birthday party. It appears that Obama does not see this resurgence of an imperial Russia gathering in it’s rebellious former members as a threat to the U. S. while the other two candidates do.

    Our largest group of citizens are known as “babyboomers”, whose fathers and mothers fought in another war and who grew up under the shadow of the USSR and its nuclear arsenal. We knew what that crossing into Georgia was, just like McCain and Clinton did.

    Perhaps being raised in a police state like Indonesia Obama is more of a citizen of “the world” than a citizen of the U. S. but our families fought and died for this country on foreign soil and are buried in this U. S. soil. It’s more than “just words” to us; democracy is in our blood and Obama needs to know that it is also in the blood of John McCain and Hillary Clinton and in the end Obama just seems a little anemic.

  • ford

    I have met Cindy McCain (2X) and I have checked her out, she is a very independent and hip person. She has done an enormous amount of charity throughout the entire world. She just got back from Darfur. She runs a huge empire and makes alot of business decisions each day.

    Cindy McCain will not permit Roe vs, Wade to be overturned, she just won’t.. She is good friends with many gays in Scottsdale and Sedona…McCain will be very fair about the gay marriage issue..he seems to me to be a very reasonable man. Cindy McCain is very close to her husband and he trusts her.

    I would remind fearful people that Bush was suppose to be against Roe vs,. Wade and with a R Congress, Supreme Court ,no change. Judge on the behavior.

    I understand the fear of social tampering, but I think a McCain term would really be bipartisan…especially if he runs with a D as his VP.

  • guido in florida

    It is obvious from the posts on this thread that the Obambots are out in full force. They know that their candidate is in trouble with falling poll numbers.
    They also see how postitively Mccains response has been received and shows him to be much more presidential than Obambi, so the marching orders are attack him wherever you can to discredit his position.
    They are scared of Obambi’s dismal performance or lack there oflately and are trying to shore up a sinking ship. Keep pounding away on Hillary or Mccain but no Obambi and they will get see in the end.

  • PadrePIo

    except he can’t remember what he has said or where he is or who he’s talking about.

  • http://hickeysite.blogspot.com Pat Hickey

    Kids,

    I am a life long Democrat – and hope for the day when my people are released from the Idiot Bondage of the DNC – and have been with John McCain from get-go – rather 2000.

    I see the man as a thorough patriot and a flawed man. His flaws pale beside those, like Edwards, who would use public service to advance their life-styles and self-importance.

    McCain has the soul to lead all Americans.

    I also tend to judge a person by taking a hard look at who is against her/him – again, McCain wins hands down.

    I would love to go all Canaryville* ( Back of the Yards Tough Neighborhood in Chicago) on a few of these turnips.

    http://hickeysite.blogspot.com/2008/08/msnbc-olbermann-maddow-melt-down-tubby.html

    * Q. How can you tell if a guy is from Bridgeport or Canaryville?

    A.The Bridgeport guy takes the dishes out of the sink before he pees in it.

  • C.S.

    Whoever HillFan2012 is, please check the statistics on the number of states and locations where abortion is no longer an option without one change to Roe v Wade.

    The only thing it will prove is that intimidation and terrorism, and yes, murder, can stop what the courts legalize if you get scared enough.

    And these same tactics are being used to eliminate Barack Obama’s opposition right here on this site. Ferreting out private information to harass and threaten those who disagree with you is the farthest thing from democracy and is a crime.

    And reverse psychology won’t work on us.

  • J

    I’ll stick with the phrase ‘wer’re all ossetians’ instead. IMO Russia was in the right on this one.

  • C.S.

    And Obama acting as a “broker” for Chicago criminals is somehow different and “proof” that charisma and diplomacy comes from a long history of association with Wright and Rezko and Ayers? (to name just a few Obama BFFs) I agree, this must be satire!!

  • BernieO

    Jim Leach is a really weird guy. The media likes to portray him as a moderate but he was one of the worst tormentors of Bill Clinton. Check out what Matt Iglesias says about Leach – typical progressive take on him, then read the comments . This is what is so bizarre about liberal pundits. Imagine conservatives praising someone who helped lead a witch hunt against one of their guys. Iglesia completely disappeared Leach’s despicable behavior but several of the commenters point it out. This is the kind of thing that Bob Somerby at dailyhowler.com is howling about. Our spokespeople are our own worst enemies.

    http://www.matthewyglesias.com/archives/2006/11/sign_of_the_times/

  • C.S.

    ~”The answers aren’t hard to figure out.”~

    Then why is it taking so long for you to “figure out” the non-working junior Senator Barack Obama?
    Inquiring minds don’t want to know?

  • fif

    Charles, I’ve been watching McCain’s statements about gay rights too, and heard him give the basic “traditional values” mantra to the conservative base. Then, however, he went on to say that “but these issues will be settled by the states.” That came through loud and clear. He is saying what he needs to say to keep the base happy, but he is going to leave it up to state rights. The moderate was winking at the audience to let us know that is how he will govern. With a Dem Congress, that he has a proven record of working with (unlike BO’s claims), he would not go radical on these issues. As you make clear in this column: national security in the hands of a novice is too dangerous and at this critical juncture, we do not need a student council president in charge (that’s Wes Clarke’s line, pre-Kool Aid).

  • Lucinda

    He doesn’t have the sweeping delivery that Obama has, but the words pack a punch. When he said that history is often made in small corners of the world, I immediately thought of Vietnam and then him being a POW there. I’m sure there are others who made that connection, too.

  • BernieO

    A communist? That is the not nearly as bad as his being a former KGB man in East Germany where they were at their worst.
    McClatchy had a great report that said we warned Georgia not to stir up trouble in South Ossetia but they bombed the capital anyway. We also apparently told the Russians that if there was trouble and they responded to confine it to South Ossetia. (McClatchy was the only major news outlet that got the WMD story right, so I trust their Washington bureau. We should all make a point of reading their reports. Funny how their reporters are used on political shows except sometimes on NPR.)
    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/255/v-print/story/47631.html
    Good thing we have a Russian expert as our Sec’y of State……

  • C.S.

    ~”i agree with some of what you said on mccain,values and character are important,a wifebeater and a philanderer,hmn,the bar is lowered,next election we will see a pedophile running for prez.”~

    But never a woman!

  • fif

    Some of these Reps are so dumb. This is another falsehood Bots have used to prop him up:

    Obama = diplomacy

    Hillary/McCain = war

    Neither Hillary or McCain have ever said they would not use aggressive diplomacy. Quite the opposite and their EXPERIENCE on the armed services committee has prepared them to understand the complexities of dealing with other nations, especially hostile regimes. Obama, however, suggests ONLY hand-holding (no pre-conditions, that is, until there was backlash and he stole Hillary’s position) which is totally unrealistic.

    As always I ask: based on what? He would be competent as CIC based on what? He didn’t even take responsibility for the ONE committee he was supposed to chair.

  • Lucinda

    You’re right and much of what you’ve said is the reason I consider myself an Independent. I don’t believe that either party has cornered the market on what’s best for America. I used to lean toward the Democrats, but this primary season has shown me that there are just as many problems and corrupt politicians in the DNC as there are in the GOP. We have to vote for the person that we think will be the best leader in a crisis situation, because our world (and our country) is in a precarious situation right now. That’s why McCain was my second choice behind Hillary. I want the next president to be an experienced leader.

  • PInk Panther

    Someone better tell the Germans.

  • workingclass artist

    I have already decided that for the first time in my voting life ( 30 yrs. ) I will vote GOP for McCain if Obama is the nominee. I will do this because I cannot support the actions of Obama’s campaign and his support by Corrupt Party Leaders.
    I believe that McCain will be more independent of his party then previous GOP presidents just as I believe Clinton is more independent of her Party then Obama is.
    I want a Grown UP in the White House….Not someone who remindes me more and more of my spoiled middle aged Baby brother who keeps being fired from
    jobs because he lies about who he is and what he’s accomplished on his resumes….and who at 45 still has his mother make his car payments while he searches for stupid wife # 3 to support him in between stints in re-hab…sheeesh!

  • workingclass artist

    ( Sigh )….Aaaaand GWB doesn’t even have the internal capacity to suffer
    a DOOH ! Homer moment…..
    New Global Political SUPAHSTAR…..SARKOZY…..Who knew ?

  • Rob in Chicago

    Pat:
    As a guy from the neighborhood, but now in Sauganash, I really loved that one, but I have to keep removing my cat from the sink too (she loves to play in the water.)

  • Sassy

    Senator John McCain became a “realist” the hard way…he EARNED it!!!
    I would trust Hillary with my life, after all that’s what a leader should do.
    The “O” is totally unqualified today, tommorrow, and for the future!
    You can’t teach someone who refuses to listen!

  • workingclass artist

    Excellent Article Mr. Lemos.Yesterday I spent a couple hours chatting with the new neighbors a very nice and interesting Gay couple who are part of what they call Stonewall Democrats. My daughter and I live in an Historic Gay Neighborhood. My twin brother is Gay and as an Artist having many Gay friends is an occupational/Cultural asset….chuckle….I have always been supportive of Gay Rights and we started our chat about the cultural implications to Gay Culture of Social/Political assimilation of the Gay Political Class comparing it to similar assimilations of other groups. I learned so much from these two fellows. One is a student studying Art History and the other is a politically active IT Professional, both in their early 30′s. One caucasian ( raised J Witness ) and his partner hispanic ( raised RCC ). So you can imagine how varied and lively the chat was….It was global…chuckle…
    They still have a Clinton sign hanging in the window but have swallowed the SCOTUS fear pill and are going to be good ( reluctantly ) party soldiers.
    After discussing Obama’s campaign….the primary season..Dean the UberPutz…yada…yada…yada….I said to them that currently in America they had the right to decide….and I respected that. Then I asked them to consider one question.
    After you look into McCain’s relationship over the years with his own party…Did they really think he would be a proper little goosestepper and the SCOTUS would overnight overturn every civil rights gain ? Even Nixon and Reagan were surprised by how their judges tuned out….I said since we live in the Mildly Fascist state of Texas already….Do you really think it will get much worse than this with McCain…..But given Obama’s campaign and the Party Leadership’s tacit support of his tactics can we afford to go with a Party and a Candidate who seem to stop at nothing in persuit of Power ? We all three agreed to chat again as we enjoyed the discussion. I also referred them to several PUMA sites including yours and NQ and I explained to them that PUMA has grown beyond both this primary and even the candidates and is about restoring the principles of Democracy which are at stake.
    The one thing we agreed on was that all three of us had the HOPE…tremulous and ardent that whoever becomes POTUS is hopefully tansformed by the office to serve our country in the tradition of our best Leaders in the past. I told them my hope was that McCain if elected would pull a Teddy Roosevelt being a leader that put Country First.

    Country Before Party…….

  • MrMike

    Gay Blog? I must have missed the secret hand shake. I always thought it was because civil rights for all was the right thing to do as an American.

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    that would be 3 times

    he lost as PRESIDENT TOO

    lol

    that makes him a HUGE Loser like KENNEDY

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    ack Lieberdon’t

    ack
    ack
    ack

  • workingclass artist

    JB…that is so interesting. The Brits used to have a philosophical concept about the East/West political/cultural devide. It’s archaic definiton now sounds almost quaint…They described what they called the ” Oriental Mind “. History is after all only a record of Human Behavior. Western Philosophers have always been fairly baffled by this ” Oriental Mind ” and of course Russia was culturally included in this Eastern Sensibility. Because of this philosophical conundrum The West ( Descendants of the Romans ) have always been baffled by the East ( Descendants of the Mongols ) figuratively speaking…….
    The first recorded instances outside of the Bible of Guerilla Warfare and Religious Fanaticism is the Romans baffled and distressed by Jews willing to die to defend their Temple and their religion which was inseparable from their identity as a People……The Romans identified this as a distasteful aspect of the Oriental Mind……and tried to get those recalcitrant Jews to behave like other conquered Peoples like the Egytpians who they never trusted either….
    Until the West and The East learn to understand each other we will continue to underestimate each other and clash. One thing the West has tried to do is seek the pragmatism of doing business…But we don’t like the way the East does Business. Democracy our way is a threat to the Eastern sensibility and until the East adjusts Culturally and the West faces this fact these clashes will continue. Putin wants to regain Strategic control the Soviet Block had and this is both predictable and he has stated it. Once again GWB has underestimated the East. Frankly, we just don’t know how much Putin wants back but I think folks in Georgia and Ukraine have a right to be nervous. This is why the study of History is so important…..sigh…..imho

  • leisa

    How was Russia right on this one?

    Do you even know what you are writing about?

    This is all about OIL… what do you know of that?

  • Leibniz08

    GEORGIA ATTACKED RUSSIA !!!

    Get your facts right!

    The attack against Russia is by the same folks attacking the Democratic Party. Soros and Obama in service of Brzezinski and the Rockefeller Trilateralists, with McCain against any type of FDR resurgence in the Democratic Party as is needed at this time of the collapse of the Anglo-American finacial system. Obama and McCain are both pawns of Brzezinski, only Obama does not have a fascist mass movement with ‘left-cover’ behind him to better implement the insanity of Brzezinski and Soros.

    Right now we are on the verge of World War III to which a misguided NO QUARTER, with the CIA’s Larry Johnson is promoting war with Russia, by supporting such stupid posts of pure propaganda as Mr. Lemos’s “We are all Georgians” I am sorry Mr. Lemos but you and the rest of the NO Quarter readers are being used in a most deceitful way which absolutely make me wonder about the integrity of this site. In fact through this posting I would say that the PUMA movement is being ill served by this website. I may well start to conclude that it is acting as a “gatekeeper” against a true mobilization against Obama. Stories like OBAMA: The ODM Candidate for President should have been posted, but that would uncover sensitive CIA & privatized CIA & MI6 drug cartel linked operations. Likewise the whole Larry Sinclair issue of Obama’s Drug use is a scandal that has not been really touched upon, including the possibility of dead gay men at the Obama/Wright Trinity of Hell Church. Then there is much more on the Auchie and Alsamarie payoffs to Obama that link in with the War in Iraq and other areas that would start to uncover government/Foundation sponsored dirty tricks, and terrorism. If that came out you might actually come to see that the official story on 9/11 is a lie, a ‘Black-OP’ as is Obama.

    Now as Mr. Lemos makes a big point about being gay, I would say Read a gay man, Justin Raimondo of Antiwar.com as a good start in educating yourself about what is really going on by this western sponsored attack on Russia.

    If that does not convince you then perhaps you should vote for Obama because he is sure to destroy Russia faster than McCain. I must ask the question then. Why do you have a problem with Obama at all? Is it because you know that he is indeed bisexual and that perhaps he did have some gay men murdered in order to keep his sexuality and drug use private!
    Here we have Dean and the whole post modern progressives behind Obama and you do not like him. The only indication being that you do not think he will attack Russia as strongly as McCAin?

    Now some background:

    The West attacked Russia precisely as the western financial system implodes, to destroy Russia, to carve it into little pieces, to so prevent the emergence of a power which could help to rebuild the world as the west implodes. In deed it was a few years ago that President Putin invoked FDR as the model for rebuilding Russia ravaged by looting by the west. When Putin made the announcement he added the caveat that it is too bad that the Americans don’t do the same to rebuild its country for its people. This is the purpose of the Democratic Party, to serve as the political bulwark, in the tradition of FDR to so carry out the remand of the Preamble to the Federal Constitution to “promote the general welfare”

    WE must consider then in this context that Russia is a natural ally of the United States. In fact Russia helped the Union win the Civil War by deterring the British from trying to break the navel blockade of the South. The present government in Russia represent that which is willing to fight to save itself from aggression that seeks to destroy it. That is the goal of Brzezinski, Obama mentor, to whom his evil son Ian Brzezinski is impacted upon McCain and the Neocons who now are barking for war against Russia and China.

    The question is will the Democrats really recognize that what has happened with Obama, with Dean, Brazille and Soros, is but a very serious situation to which we must actually say no Obama, no McCain. That Hillary must be drafted and made to realize that she is not to go along with this lunacy of attacking Russia and the geopolitical evils that were allowed to happen under her husbands watch, or we must go en mass to Nader and McKinney.

    Yes in mass to Nader & McKinney if there is not a floor demonstration and walkout by delegates in Denver to seek the hijacked and sinking ship known as the Democratic Party.

    Wake Up!

    GEORGIA ATTACKED RUSSIA as is Brzezinski’s plan for Anglo-American domination.

  • workingclass artist

    Clooney ( sigh ) has drunk the Palestinian Koolaid served by Uncle Jimmy….chuckle….There can be a solution but the Palestinians will not negotiate on splitting Jerusalem as their capital. Many Muslims are taught that Jews have no cultural or historical claim to Jerusalem or Israel, that the Temple Mount is the ruins of a Roman Army Barracks and is a Holy Site On the Prophets magical mystery trip complete with hitchin Post….and Now we have Black Liberation Theology stripping JESUS of his Jewish Cultural and Ethnic Identity to further erode Jewish Historical Claim to the Holy Land and promote another form of Anti-Semitism and align with the political agenda of Muslims especially the Nation Of Islam. Theocracy is just another Form of FASCISM. Divide and Conquer from the left seems to be the new approach.

    Liberation Theology is Marxism Wrapped in the Baby Jesus…..

    Black Liberation Theology is the FASCIST Daughter of the Marxist Parent…

    Theocracy is Religious Fascism……..

    FASCISM IS THE ANTITHESIS TO DEMOCRACY…….AND HAZARDOUS TO THE HEALTH OF INDIVIDUAL THINKERS WHO HAVE THE COURAGE TO EXPRESS AND ACT IN DISSENT……

    ***** History shows that any Country is vulnerable to Fascism…..******

  • Skiron

    Thanks for that dose of sanity, ziggy.

  • Skiron

    You are sadly deluded.

  • Leibniz08

    GEORGIA ATTACKED RUSSIA

    THIS IS THE BRZEZINSKI PLAN FOR THE CORRUPT ANGLO-AMERICAN FINANCIAL EMPIRE-DESTROY RUSSIAN AND CHINA AS THE WESTERN MONETARY SYSTEM COLLAPSES.

    GEORGIAN PRESIDENT SAAKASHVILI WAS PUT IN POWER BY A NATO/CIA/MI6/MOSSAD ‘PEOPLE POWER COUP’ FINANCED BY GEORGE SOROS THE MONEY BAG BEHIND OBAMA!

    TO UNDERSTAND LIFE UNDER OBAMA, LOOK AT GEORGIA, WHERE MARTIAL LAW WAS DECLARED A LONG TIME AGO. MONEY FOR ARMS, SUPPLIED BY THE U.S. BUT NOT TO PEOPLE AND INFRASTRUCTURE FOR NORMAL SOCIETY.

    THIS IS A DISGUSTING ARTICLE, AND MR. JOHNSON, OF THE CIA, IS HERE SUPPORTING THE ESTABLISHMENT LINE OF WAR AGAINST RUSSIA BY ALLOWING SUCH LIES CONCERNING THE NATURE OF THIS ATTACK TO BE POSTED AS SUCH.

    LARRY JOHNSON IS ACTING AS DR. NO AS HE SAYS YES TO BOTH MCCAIN, OBAMA, CHENEY AND BUSH BY ALLOWING SUCH DRIVEL TO BE REPORTED.

    FACT:

    GEORGIA HAD BEEN SHELLING SOUTH OSSETIA FOR WEEKS. RUSSIA KNEW THAT SAAKASHVILI WAS READYING TROOPS TO ATTACK. AT 1AM 8/8/08 RUSSIA BROUGHT FORTH A INITIATIVE TO THE UN SECURITY COUNCIL TO OPPOSE THE USE OF FORCE IN DEALING WITH THE CONFLICT. THE UK AND USA WALKED OUT. GEORGIA BOMBS A HOSPITAL IN
    SOUTH OSSETIA-RUSSIA ROLLS ITS TANKS!

    THE WEST IS MORALLY BANKRUPT AS IS LARRY JOHNSON OF THE CIA FOR PUTTING THIS PROPAGANDA ‘WE ARE ALL GEORGIAN’S NOW’ OUT.

    PERHAPS SOROS IS PAYING LARRY JOHNSON AND NO QUARTER TO ACT AS A SUBTERFUGE AGAINST REAL OPPOSITION TO OBAMA.

    IS SOROS BEHIND PUMA INTRANSIGENCE AGAINST REALLY FIGHTING OBAMA AS THEY ARE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT WHAT TO DO AFTER THE CONVENTION RATHER THAN BEING INTIMIDATED BY 3RD WORLD BLOGGERS FOR OBAMA LEVYING DEATH THREATS, WHILE NO QUARTER ALLOWS WORLD WAR 3 TO THREATEN US ALL WITH NUCLEAR ANNIHILATION SHOULD SUCH MADNESS BY THE WEST CONTINUE.

    THOSE ATTACKING RUSSIA ARE ATTACKING THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND ALL BITTER AMERICANS.

    HILLARY MUST FIGHT THE ANGLOPHILE/ROCKEFELLER/TRILATRALIST/BRZEZINSKI/SOROS/OBAMA/FORD FOUNDATION/WEATHERUNDERGROUND TERROR ATTACK AGAINST THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

  • workingclass artist

    Hmmm…..I think Lemos was referrin to his blog not NQ per say. He mentions this because for politically active Gays like Feminists and other groups AA’s that are being bombarded by the Fear Pill and Traitor accusations spewed by Commissar Donna Brazeal and Comrade Howard ( iblobarry ) Dean the UberPutz and Their New Demofascist Party for a New Americastan….chuckle…
    We are all of us who are UNITED in OPPOSITION to the ACTIONS of the DNC and will put aside temporarily tribal concerns to put the Country and Democratic Principles First….This is what The Fascists fear….The Unification of The Great American Middle….Under an Independent Thinking Patriotic POTUS…Whether that be Sen. clinton….OR….Sen. McCain

  • workingclass artist

    Oh Shut Up LNITZ….for cryin Out Loud and quit posting this long BS on every thread Will Ya ?……sheeesh! Once is enough…..mkay…..

  • http://mbc MBC

    Now that’s REAL change! I’m in – McCain/Clinton!

  • Whodatguy??

    Huh?

  • Dan R.

    Think maybe the Ukranian government is in touch today with NATO about speeding up negotiations re: their membership? They’re the next logical target for Russia. But I think the retro-Soviets would find Ukraine a much tougher nut to crack. They’ve been able to bludgeon Georgia into submission simply by sheer force of numbers, but according to western analysts the actual performance of the Russian military hasn’t been all that impressive.

  • Dan R.

    Seriously, this is the biggest load of shit I’ve read in quite some time. Russia set this thing up from the get go. It had two divisions in place along the Georgia border, ready to move, having quietly positioned them there over the past several weeks. They then told their funded ethnic Russian surrogate agitators in South Ossetia to start trouble so that the Georgia president would take the bait and try to put them down, thereby giving Russia its excuse to invade. It’s precisely what Hitler did in 1936 with the Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia.

    Only a fool can’t see what’s really going on here. It’s plain as day. Russia is letting everybody know that it’s going to start pushing back aggressively against what it sees as a progressive encroachment on their traditional territories by the west. They know full well that we need their oil & gas and so they feel secure that the west’s reponses will be limited, and they’re probably right.

    I can’t say as I really blame them all that much. The way they see it, they’re tamping down on trouble in their own back yard the same way that we did in Haiti, Panama, and Grenada. But nobody should have any illusions about Russian intentions, and they certainly shouldn’t be deluding themselve with bullshit conspiracy theories about how U.S. “Neo-cons” actually set all this up to help McCain win the election and bring about the demise of the Democratic Party.

  • Dan R.

    McCain is the real deal, scars and all. Obama is a creation of Madison Avenue and MTV with precious little real world experience.

    Now, which one do you want facing down Vladimir Putin over eastern Europe and Mahmoud Ahmedinijad over Iran’s nuclear program?

  • workingclass artist

    McCains personal hero is Teddy Roosevelt…a Republican and Founder of the Progressive Movement….Of course I’m sure that isn’t mentioned in your revisionist history book….Obama’s personal hero is HIMSELF…lol

  • workingclass artist

    Taylor Marsh = Traitor Martinet….she is sooooo lame she embarrasses herself.

  • AX10

    That is true. Bill Clinton could do that too. HRC would get the same reaction also. His Fruadulency Barack H. Obama needed to go to a rock concert in order to get such a massive audience.

  • AX10

    This is a the biggest load of horse C**P I have read in some time. Russia has been provoking Georgia for the past 4 years.
    Perhaps the Berkley crowd surrounding Mr. Obama is showing their true Anti-American colors.
    Tyranny anywhere is WRONG. Fascism is evil, and Communism is evil. Understand?!?
    If the far left had it’s way, the Nazis would have ruled the world. Since that did not happen, they are now going to push their own evil idealogy on us, that being communism of course.

  • ziggy

    Pretty much my own view.

    There’s McCain, a serious presidential contender, suddenly pushing a totally one-sided, anti-Russian picture of what has thusfar happened during the 2008 South Ossetian War. And there’s McCain’s chief political advisor, who’s been a paid registered agent for the Republic of Georgia lobbying for Georgian NATO membership; who’s a board member of PNAC, and who was actually president of the PNAC Committee for the Liberation of Iraq.

    It’s no secret what the PNAC is about. They want to follow up on our Cold War victory over the former Soviet Union to turn the U.S. into the world’s single dominating super-power, and then use that dominance to turn the entire world on to American-style democracy. Which, of course, is largely about American-style capitalism, and the freedom to dominate global markets and resources.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

    The Russians would be totally nuts if they didn’t take PNAC plans for Georgia seriously and guard against them. Recent history is a clear warning: The PNAC came to power with the election of George W. Bush, and two years later the war they’d planned to force regime change in Iraq was underway. McCain is another PNAC frontman.

  • ziggy

    The Russians have their legitimate sphere of influence. If we try to turn former Soviet block states directly on Russia’s border into NATO states, there’s a very obvious reason for them suspect our intentions. Georgia is particularly worrisome for them, because of it’s strategic location. If we hadn’t appeared to have been working hard to draw Georgia into the sphere of western military power and had instead treated Georgia as a military buffer zone, the Russians would have been much more likely to have done the same. The Russians would probably much prefer to avoid escalating militarization along Russian borders. After all, it was the unsustainability of the military stand-off with the west that eventually broke the former Soviet Union.

    Unfortunately, people subscribing to PNAC ideologies won’t let things evolve differently. I would go so far as to suggest that people like McCain’s top foreign policy advisor are at least partially responsible for what is presently happening between Russia and Georgia. Georgia wouldn’t have instigated a large-scale military confrontation with a country that could roll over them in a few days unless they figured they had somebody at their back. Unless they’re complete idiots, of course.

    By the way, I get that tyranny is wrong and fascism is evil. (Communism I don’t worry so much about, because it doesn’t seem to exist anywhere other than in the imagination.) What I don’t accept is that it’s the duty of my government to decide what’s wrong everywhere else in the world and send troops off to fix it. The first duty of my government is to get the affairs of our own nation in order. Something they’ve been totally neglecting of late.

  • John Q.

    John McCain the centerist? Look at his voting record. He’s as conservative as they come. This BS Maverick label hides a man who over the years has shown a serious lack of judgment. Not all of us have forgotten the Keating 5 and McCain’s other lapses in ethical judgment either. Want to sit out the election? That’s your choice. But real progressives don’t fall for the McCain BS. The only progressives who do are either deluded or Republicons sockpuppets.

  • http://! Buzz Latte

    Real progressive patriots don’t fall for fascist BS packaged as Barack Obama.

    Explain:

    Obama’s marxist leanings and affiliations through Ayers, Cone, Wright, Dohrn, Davis, and his own statements of siding with muslims in his own voice and writings.

    Explain: Obama’s own increasingly paranoid behavior surrounding the DNC convention with tickets now coming only through working for Obama. What’s next? Loyality Oaths?

    Explain: Obama’s increasing fascist takeover of the DNC and his need for a private citizens’ police force – known in earlier times as .BROWNSHIRTS!

    Explain: Obama’s lack of transparency as to who he is making himself the perfect Manchurian candidate.

    Is that what you want for America? If ii is, then let us turn you into the FBI, John Q.

    with strings as having to work for Obama to get one. What’s next? Loyality Oaths?

    Explain: Obama’s own comments about the need for a private police force (known as BROWNSHIRTS in an earlier time) and his increasingly fascist hand in taking over the DNC

  • http://! Buzz Latte

    Despite the typo, the message is clear. We do not agree to supporting Obama.

  • John Q,

    I didn’t realize that not supporting Obama = McCain lovefest as many so-called progressives have fallen into on this site. Don’t like Obama? Fine, don’t vote for him. If you have principles, you’ll sit out the election. If you’re unprincipled or a Republicon sock puppet, you’ll continue to tell us how wonderful McCain is for America. He’s not. He’s a disaster. Here’s a new McCain gem:

    John McCain condemns Russia for having the temerity to cross an international boundary — “in the 21st century, nations don’t invade other nations.”

    This from the guy who voted to invade Iraq.

  • Toni

    FEC Investigation of Obama Eligibility

    http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Federal-Elections-Commssion/index.html

    We need more signatures.all most there.Just go at the end where it ask if you like to donate and if you can’t just go to the bottom of the page and hit go back to petition.And hit ok- againok then hit the back bar till you are at the petition again.go to signutures at the top and click.Look to see if you got yours on there.You can remain Anonymous

    We are almost there.We need to get Obama’s true birth certificate and invesagation for it and other stuff to they are working on now

  • HillFan2012

    I AGREE! MCCAIN IS LIKE A COMFORTING GRANDFATHER WHO WILL PROTECT OUR NATION AND GIVE US WERTHER’S CANDY!

  • http://! Buzz Latte

    Great! Vote for your fuhrer Obama and then explain why your freedoms are curtailed and your taxes raised. Better yet, explain all that to your neighbors – the very people you screwed over by smoking the hope dope.

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    Free food and beer too. Hell, I’d even show up for the food and German Brew.

  • Mr.Murder

    John McYippieKieYeahCain

    Yes we(Mc)Cain!

    This isn’t a place for cowboy diplomacy though. We wanted this done when it was done. Congress got what they wanted, have it happen out of session so they don’t deal with it immediately until they see which way the flag flies when it comes to opinion polls.

    Obama’s vacation was interrupted the same way, and he waited for McCain to say something.

    Condi went ahead of time knowing this would happen. She might have thought it wasn’t actionable material though. Someone should ask her before a committee if she thought so.

    She wanted it too. This is the way around oversight of appropriations. Bush did that before re:Iraq but several decisions and a democratic Congress changed much of the policy.

    Under this, with Congress out of session, Executive Orders took center stage. Bush is out of the country. Cheney gleefully carves up what’s left of the budget in his stead. Emergency powers.

    Mission Accomplished.

    Condi going to Georgia would have ended this if we wanted it ended, before it ever began.

    Follow the Money.

    Her former company has a twenty percent stake in the BTC. Bet you some serious emergency appropriations went their way. Help the leader of Georgia get his money out through extraordinary means, and take care of our rendition suspects there also. New emergency s[pending for the transport of their soldiers from Iraq.

    Make no doubt about it, Russian troops are in Georgia. Holbrooke said as much on CSpan in the AM. He did the same in a conference for The Washington Note and the person who said it was not true recanted, by degrees, as the conversation developed.

  • HillTroll

    the late Tony Stark

    Dead at the BamaTrolley site, his demise has caused no one grief, but extreme joy.

    Tony Stark

    Dead ’08

  • memi

    Dear Tony Stark

    I, at least, understand that

    Hillary = 07

    means: DOUBLE 0 SEVEN…remember the old series of BOND….

    no disrespect to our Hillary.

    Yes, Hillary is Dr. Bond and BambiBoy Dr. NOOoo – never!

  • Jean

    FEC Investigation of Obama Eligibility

    http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Federal-Elections-Commssion/signatures.html

    We need singatures to have the FEC to invesagate Obama’s birth certificate.You can or not make a donation on theis petition site.If not just at the end wher you can donate just go to bottom and click on back to petition.and hit back bar untill you get back to the petition and then go up top to signatures to see if your is there . You can stay Anonymous.

    Anonymous

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