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Hillary Loses Prime Slot at Convention [Updated x2]

UPDATE: Besides the anti-gay Mark Warner, Obama’s people have added Bob Casey to the now-overcrowded Tuesday night line-up: “Anti-abortion senator to speak to Democrats.” Are you kidding me? They have added an anti-choice senator to the now over-crowded Tuesday night, and squeezing Hillary’s MOMENT more and more? This means that Michelle Obama has a more prominent speaking slot than does Hillary. UPDATE 2: Casey is speaking in the afternoon. Only Hillary and Mark Warner will speak at night. Still …

Original: Via Jeralyn at TalkLeft: “Mark Warner to Give DNC Keynote Speech.”

Sen. Hillary Clinton will be one of four speakers on Tuesday night at the Democratic National Convention.

The convention keynote speaker, who will also be speaking Tuesday, has just been announced. It’s former Governor Mark Warner.

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, Obama’s rival during the Democratic presidential primaries, is also scheduled to speak that night, Aug. 26. But Warner is being given the plum position, according to an e-mail that Obama campaign adviser Mike Henry sent to Virginia supporters late Tuesday.

Other newly announced speakers: Michelle Obama’s brother will introduce her on Monday night. Nancy Pelosi, Denver Mayor John Hickenlooper and Missouri Sen. Claire McCaskill, will also speak Monday. …

Each night has a “theme.” Oh boy. Just like prom night!

Monday’s theme? “One Nation.”

Why not “One Nation Indivisible”?

Oh well.

Who cares what I think.

Clearly the Democratic party doesn’t care about me. Or you. Or Hillary.

This is now the Obamacratic Party.

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Special thanks to Andy, our faithful reader with eagle eyes, who spotted this story at TalkLeft. This has been rumored for a couple days. But I wanted to link to a source like TalkLeft before we wrote about this story.

  • roseeriter

    Michelle has a brother? Do we know anything about him?

    • BernieO

      He is older, was a better student, went to Princeton and was a top b-ball player. Got a degree in finance from U of Chicago (ugh) and is now a head coach at Oregon state. And he has trashed the Clintons….

      I have read that she was always in his shadow. He easily got into an Ivy League school whereas she was told her test scores were not good enough.

      • http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal Paul F. Villarreal

        Yep, her brother’s a punk just like Michelle. He coached hoops at Brown, too. The whole family seems to have issues keeping their mouths shut and thus spew crap near-incessantly.

        If you have not seen it, there is an article by the author of The Case Against Barack Obama, Daivd Freddoso, over at National Review. I can’t link to it directly (wrong format), but here is the general site link:

        http://www.nationalreview.com/

        Scroll down on the left hand side under the “Election 2008″ section. There you will see Freddoso’s name and a link to the article, “Obama is okay with infanticide. “Life with Obama”

        This is a must-read. If you had any doubts about the hole in Obama’s heart, this will end that uncertainty.

        An excerpt:

        “Stanek is the nurse who found herself cradling this baby in her hands for all of his 45-minute lifetime. He was close to ten inches long and weighed perhaps half a pound. It’s just a guess — no one had weighed or measured him at birth. No happy family had been there to welcome him into the world. No one was trying to save his life now, putting him into an incubator, giving him oxygen or nourishment. He had just been left to die.”

        Obama is less than scum. He is the ONLY Illinois Senate member who spoke up in opposition of banning live-birth abortion.

        Sick.

        • Foxx

          Well good for Obama, one of the few times I will say that. Either you do not understand or you are spreading lies about this procedure. It is only performed with nonviable fetuses. Of course they would save the baby’s life if it was savable.

          • J.J.

            That is correct. With viable fetuses they need to crush the skull to get it out. But I digress……….

          • Isabelle

            It is difficult to even argue as to such an atrocity……..and you condone it!!!! To KILL, yes kill a live birth: a child who has Downs Syndrome, is MURDER. GET IT! These children are viable, loving, wonderful human beings who do not deserve to be left to die without sustenance just because…..????? What a grotesque analytical bunch of bull you are spewing!!!! It is positively sickening.

          • http://firefox AnnieCarmel

            This baby was aborted because of Downs Syndrome. Jerome Corsi told this story last night on Hannity. The body had been thrown into a closet of dirty towels when the nurse found it.

            I have always been pro-choice but incidents such as this one makes me sick. I am not for late term abortion.

          • Hope Floats

            Why not just stab the non-viable infants?

            • Linda K

              It is obvious there is a large difference in opinion on a woman’s right to choose, i.e. late term abortions. I think we should stick to the revelations about Barry Soetoro rather than argue with each other. PUMA

              • Ferdberfle

                Agreed. This issue is only meant to drive wedges between people who might otherwise be on the same page.

                Paraphrasing WJC, “It’s about Barry, Stupid”.

                • elise

                  Why should abortion be an issue for Democrats? It has always been part of the platform and I will defend a woman’s right to chose when the subject is brought up by someone else. I have heard other similar stories that turned out to be lies perpetrated for political agendas. I have been on this site for months and have never hesitated to express my opinion about anything. Third trimester abortions are rare and not done without consultation. They are not done because a fetus has Downs syndrome. They are done only when the health of the mother is involved and no one takes it lightly. I believe the majority of posters here have the same purpose, to do our best to see that Hillary is the nominee of the Democratic Party. Not to elect McCain and a right wing agenda. I am willing to vote for him for my own reasons and I didn’t bring this subject up, but I don’t believe this story. Period.

                  • Linda K

                    Elise, I don’t believe the story either. It’s just so easy to be sidetracked by these things. I absolutely believe in a woman’s right to choose – no exceptions.

                  • Wisewoman

                    It’s true and since my sister lives in Chicago, I have known this story for a very long time. Obama, along with 5 other senate members in the IL senate voted to allow these babies to die. He said the baby should be allowed to expire since the woman, in contracting for an abortion, had “contracted” for a dead baby. I saw the documents on another webite and National Right to Life also has the info and has posted it. Obama lied about this issue too when he denied he had voted as he did. They have him dead to rights on this one.

          • pew

            He wasn’t speaking lies of the procedure..The abortion didn’t work… The baby was thrown in with the towels and sheets,and left to die..A nurse picked it up and held it for 8 or 9 hours,until it died…It was born with Downs Syndrome… I know children with downs,and they are happy children ,and this baby deserved to live,and be cared for..Obama’s thinks this kind of child is still a fetus…..Read the book,or Listne to Hannity and Colmes last nite. Jerome Corsi explained it in detail.,.

            The lord knows,and Obama will pay dearly for taking lives like this.imo
            He is one sick politician.imo

            • http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal Paul F. Villarreal

              Amen, Pew.

              Very well said.

              Thank you.

        • May

          http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51121

          From the article:

          Jill Stanek fought to stop “live-birth abortion” after witnessing one as a registered nurse at Christ Hospital in Oak Lawn, Ill. In 2002, President Bush asked Jill to attend his signing of the Born Alive Infants Protection Act. In January 2003, World Magazine named Jill one of the 30 most prominent pro-life leaders of the past 30 years. To learn more, visit Jill’s blog, Pro-life Pulse.***

          • http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal Paul F. Villarreal

            Great link, May. Thank you.

            Here is a line from Jill’s piece that gets to the heart of what I was trying to say:

            “Obama’s clinical discourse, his lack of mercy, shocked me. I was naive back then.”

            No mercy. No compassion. No soul.

            The same thing we saw all throughout the primaries. Barack will dump you in a heartbeat if he thinks it will help him. 20 year spiritual mentor? Gone. Typical white Grandma? Tossed aside. Painting the Clintons as racist? Absolutely.

            This guy has no conscience or loyalty. He simply does not care.

            That is terrifying in anyone, and it could be devastating for our nation if he were elected as President.

            • typical.white.person

              you would think people learned their lesson after eight years of GWB. Guess not.

          • Chicago Joe

            Jill stanek has her own web site and you can get the full story in her own words. According to her report, BHO was unmoved by her testimony. I leave everyone to form their own opinion after reading what she has to say.

        • L.Whitey Johnson

          Looks like the “juice” has completely damaged your brain. I’m sure it’s doing wonders for your nutsack as well.

          Small, shriveled like your opinions.

          • fif

            Ah…another Bot reveals the elevated mentality of their lot. They’re so charming aren’t they?

            • http://! Clinton Fan

              Naaah, fif–they’re plainly frightened. That’s why they’re here.

              And of course, they talk of the size and quality of their shrivelled little “nutsacks” from personal experience.

              If they weren’t full of fear and self-loathing, they’d be out celebrating their “inevitable victory.” Instead, they are here, filled with cognitive dissonance about their lousy, FISA loving, corporate clown, ‘best pal of rightwing cretins and blatant crooks’ candidate, and trying to find a way to blame us for their lousy choice, in essence.

              Every time they post here, we’ve won another small victory. When people BOTHER to come to a site that is in opposition to their personal views, that means that they CARE. They’re WORRIED. They’re afraid.

              For that reason, I love seeing the trolls. They’re harbingers, like daffodils in spring! And they’re popping up all over, aren’t they!

          • http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal Paul F. Villarreal

            You support a man who defends infanticide.

            There isn’t anything else that has to be said.

          • Chelsea Patriot

            “Barack tells me I do wonders for his nutsack, Mommy! shrieked Stanley Anne to the retching Madelyn. Dabbing away the “juice”, she continued, “Barack’s nutsack is big and full! Not Small,shriveled like your opinions, Mommy.”

          • Obama is a bum

            You Obama punks remind me of Nazis. I understand Farrakhan admired Hitler.

        • Diana

          He was only one of two people in the entire senate and congress that opposed that bill, even NARAL approved of it. If I remember it correctly he said, “Infants that survive their late term abortions are not afforded the same constitution rights.” I have had three premature infants. I now have 7 beautiful grandchildren from those non-viable human beings.

          I almost died when I read the committee records on that. Leave the infants stored in a linen room till they die. How many days does it take an infant to starve to death that doesn’t require oxygen at birth? Because they have no constitutional rights? WTH is that?

          He held it up in committee for over 2 years before someone on the committee brought it forward, how many infants were left during that time? I always try to stay on top of late term abortion issues because all my children were born premature.

          I’m not so foolish as to know there are not times for them, like with my daughter who’s child died inside of her. I would never have forced her to carry her infant for four more months. It almost killed her when she found out, then when she had to carry the baby for almost two weeks till they could get her in for surgery. I insisted upon a hospital setting, not a clinic, or doctors office because I didn’t want her to have to face down any protesters. I probably would have rung anyone’s neck that got in her way. I know she would have. I almost didn’t think we were going to even get her in the hospital door.

          Now I hear there will be an anti-abortionist speaking at the convention. So first he wants to leave viable infants in a soiled linen closet when we have infants weighing less than a pound surviving today, now he has an anti-abortionist speaking…From the Boston Globe:
          http://tinyurl.com/5q9rzh

          • ndree

            http://www.bothwaysbarack.com
            great ad destined for TV on how he does not just flip flop, but has two positions on many issues at the same time.

        • True Hillary supporter

          Yep, one is a successful basketball coach, another is a successful U.S. Senator yet you take the higher ground. You are a piece of garbage, …….

          • http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal Paul F. Villarreal

            This farce is nearing its end, fake Democrat.

            Your Infanticider Messiah is going down.

            Michelle and her brother are dirtbags. It doesn’t matter if they have Ivy League degrees. Bush has two Ivy League degrees, too.

            Michelle and her brother are crap-talking, whining, sacks of dung. It has nothing to do with race, either. They could be red or white and I would feel the same way. It’s all about their arrogant, punk attitude. They feel entitled, and that is wrong.

            You will never do anything to me, ever. And if you wish to threaten me, I will report you to the authorities and you will suffer the same fate as the maniacal Obama supporter in Texas, Cyntheia Gragg, who was arrested for making terroristic threats. You are nothing, and are running nothing. Nobody is afraid, nobody cares.

            You and your joke Savior are on the wrong side of the facts and America’s morals. As that becomes more evident, your “One” will fall, and your and your pathetic would-be Stalinist comrades’ thuggishness will fall with it.

            We are the Minutemen, you are the Red Coats, and we have had enough. Prepare to be driven into the ground.

      • beebop

        It is his scholarship to Priceton that made her a shoe-in … a little like GWB gettin’ in cause of daddy. Funny how the 0bamas have had the same advantages as the Bush family but no one ever talks about it …. ???

        • researchguy66

          Ivy-league rules prohibit athletic scholarships.

          • allimom99

            But not affirmative action – Princeton was’t all that diverse back then. And if he just HAPPENS to be a good athlete, so much the better. They can ALWAYS find a loophole whrn it comes to anything that will help w/the alumni fundraising.

          • beebop

            Ah …. NO ASSHAT:

            Craig made it to Princeton on a basketball scholarship – a few years later Michelle followed him there.

            From Anderson Cooper “http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/13/michelle-obama-the-closer/”

            Or is AC just a liar, too?

            So much for your screen name.

            It is just too easy to smack down your idiots, I must say. Please send someone with some real smarts … soon!

            hahahahahahahahahahhahaha

            • Leisa

              Well, Ivy League schools do not offer athletic scholarships, but they do find other scholarships to get around that rule, beebop.

              That may be what AC was referring to. Princeton is a D1 school and competes against scholarship programs, so there are incentives for gifted athletes to attend that may not qualify for merit scholarships…

              My daughter is a collegiate athlete and I know a little about this. Anyway, DIII schools are the same, no athletic scholarships, but academic, leadership, and other various $cholarships can be found to help a student athlete attend those schools (MIT score 700 on both verbal and math on SAT = consideration for volleyball team)

              Anyway, this is what I know.

              • http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

                Ivy League schools DO HAVE ATHELETIC scholarships. What put this ridiculous idea into your head??? They just don’t call them “scholarships”, but they most definitely are there and are given out.
                It’s very easy to disguise a scholarship as something else.
                Oh, we’ll see that you get “financial aid” or a “fellowship” or we have someone who would like to help fund your education here….yada yada yada.
                AND they get away with it. They’re IVY league, they get away with a lot of things.

        • Ted

          Anyone who uses the term shoe-in is probably not qualified to evaluate ivy league financial aid policies. Just sayin.. And being smart and athletic is not quite the same has being born into wealth and having a father who was POTUS, but again, we must consider the source.

          • beebop

            And as for you, brain dead Ted: Please picture a proud middle finger.

            Research? Yeah, right! No child left behind didn’t come soon enough to help you, obviously.

        • MEchelle Hates America!

          Great point beebop! Ingrates.

      • destardi

        Michelle’s brother also wrote a thesis..expounding on why black folk who have been to prison often result in some of the black communities best leaders.

        He also explains why blacks give it back to whites in prison, because they have no power on the outside of the prison bars.

        Race, race, race.

        • stodghie

          these people are worth america’s time. they aren’t fit to lead.

      • LDW

        Michelle’s brother looks remarkably like her, except he’s heavier and has less hair. When you see them together you know that Michelle wants to stay slim, and avoid that hair slicked back to a bullet-head look.

    • sjc-tx

      They can keep king kongs little sister off the stage as far as I am concerned… Rev Manning would agree…

      What a FUC*ing JOKE this whole thing is!

      • usaproud

        This is nothing, if Obama gets in be prepared to just give away your tax dollars and he will be taxing us to the poor house. VOTE straight Republican to rid the Dem party of this SCUM

        • tek

          Yes, first it was his expanded Faith Based Initiative (billions to AA churches) then it was his Neighborhood Project (billions to AA organizations and individuals) and now it’s no taxes to seniors making less than $60,000 (how many of those under $60,000 seniors do you thing are AA)? It’s only the beginning.

    • Andy

      This is the “brother” that insulted Hillary openly during the primaries. Mr. Robinson, Michelle’s brother said:

      Of Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, Robinson (Michelle Obama’s brother) said, the whole crying now before every primary? You’ve got to be kidding me. If I was a woman, I’d be embarrassed for her.” </strong

      Nice uh?

      It gets worse… Someone on the comments at TL is reporting Bob Casey (PA) of all people!! will be speaking on Tuesday also . That’s right, on the 88th anniversary of the date that women achieved the right to vote Obama and the DNC bury HRC among 4 speeches, showcase a man (Warner) and give a slot to Bob Casey !! an anti-choice man.

      Forget this being a charade; it it now the Theatre of the ABSURD.

      • joseyj

        Perhaps Lil Wayne will be the keynote entertainer.

        • Athena The Warrior

          Maybe he’ll have Jay-Z perform “99 problems but a bitch ain’t one” live for all the Kool Kidz there.

      • sunshine sweetie

        I remember that quote from Craig Robinson well. Unless his speech is to apologize to Sen Clinton, this is a douchy move.

      • Boxer Mum 06

        The same Bob Casey that told Obama he would deliver the Catholic vote from PA. Guess this is his pay back – too bad he failed to deliver!

        Bob Casey is a fraud and will be out after his first term. Only reason he got elected was b/c of the respect folks had for his dad.

        • beebop

          Maybe Bobo will make him the Faith Based Initiative Czar. Should be just easy enough for him.

        • jrterrier

          it’s worse than that. according to talkleft there are now 10 speakers sloted for tuesday night. this is another slap in the face to hillary, particularly adding sebelius, napolitano and patrick — three who came out against hillary early on. hillary will mop the floor with all of them but nonetheless.

          “Now there’s this: the Tuesday lineup will also include Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius, Arizona Governor Janet Napolitano, Governors Ted Strickland of Ohio and Ed Rendell of Pennsylvania, Senator Bob Casey, Jr. of Pennsylvania and Governor Deval Patrick of Massachusetts, Governor Brian Schweitzer of Montana and Federico Peña, former Mayor of Denver and Secretary of both Energy and Transportation.

          That’s 10 speakers for Tuesday night. By contrast, Monday night, there are 5 speakers, 3 of whom are Michelle Obama, her brother and Barack Obama’s sister.[More...]

      • Obama is a bum

        Standard practice of the Obamas is to criticize the Clintons and the Obamas could not have accomlished anything without affirmative action.

      • http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

        Well, Hillary has the option of pulling a “Bill Clinton” and speaking as long as she wants to about whatever she wants to, daring them to remove her from the stage. That stage is hers, they wouldn’t have the guts to remove her so she can speak for as long as she wants and there’s not a damn thing they can do about it.
        To hell with bob casey, he can wait his turn to speak. Around midnight would be nice.

    • nancysabet

      WE ALL NEED TO GO TO DENVER
      TAKE BACK OUR PARTY AND OUR NOMINATION FOR HILLARY.

      If you are going to Denver and looking for a place, Motel 6 in Lakewood-Den.(303-232-4924) still has rooms for only $50.00 a night. It’s only 15 min. to down town.

      NEW event (among many other events, including the women’s march)
      On August 26th, there is going to be a 7 AM Mass for Senator Hillary Clinton at Cathedral Immaculate Conception, a beautiful church in Downtown, Denver. (1530 Logan st.)

      LET’S GET LOAD
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWPIDi7RKQQ&NR=1

      • Obama is a bum

        Agreed!

      • Truudy

        The church you talk about is so beautiful.Now I’m homesick.

    • nancysabet

      O God, they make me sick! Please every one, we need to go to Denver.

    • elise

      Just heard, after a shooting in Ar. Dem headquarters, the chairman died. He was a Hillary delegate and friend. I hope this is not about the election.

      • Obama is a bum

        If it is about the election I can’t depend on the media for disclosing it — they don’t want to report anything that would potentially hurt Obama.

      • stodghie

        it sounds like someone with mental problems. sad situation.

    • Un coup de des

      He bundled money for Obama after Obama secured contracts with the state teachers’ pension fund for the brother’s investment firm, a firm that later had its contract revoked.

    • Paul Arnett

      NOW, I WILL NOT VOTE FOR BARACK OBAMA. I was afraid that
      the destruction of the Clintons was an Obama aim, afraid to a
      near certainty. This is conclusive evidence. Obama, unless he is selecting Hillary as his VP running mate, Bill to introduce her
      at the convention, is an exceptionally insecure individual with
      no self-confidence. Otherwise he would find a way to use the
      massive abilities of the Clintons to accomplish what’s needed
      for the nation. Hillary as VP is probably a ruse to keep the Clintons frozen in place until it is to late. The Clintons must be ready to blow that convention wide open if Hillary isn’t named VP running mate before her speech. ( VP is not that great but I don’t want to argue that point now except that to
      point out that it would keep Hillary before the nation as a whole which will never happen from the Senate where she has no real base.) If the cutesy humiliation that appears planned for the Clintons is carried out ( it includes no role
      call vote or nominations if you note- no time for all that you know ) and the Clintons don’t fight back then you can
      forget them. They will be done for. They should walk out and take as many delegates with them as they can and, perhaps, begin the formation of a new third party. Let
      Obama and the DP make whatever pathetic complaint they want- they make me nauseous anyway. OK, I don’t think
      you will see anything like this. More than likely the Clintons
      will accept their humiliation and go on to whatever they go
      on to. Then lookout for hard times no matter the victors on
      11-4. Right now I think I will show my contempt for it all by
      , for the first time in my life, not voting. But, under no circumstances will I vote for Obama. It looks very, very bad now.

      PWA

      • http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

        I do NOT WANT Hillary as VP. It is a slap in her face. It’s POTUS or nothing! Unless of course she ends up as Mccain’s VP, then it’s a different story.

  • nobamaever09

    So, we can see, that Obama gang is laughing at Hillary. Wonder.what will be Hillary and Bill next step, and I will support any one of them(steps).

    See Ya all in Denver!!!
    There is another thing on TV, to get ticket, anyone has to valuntary work in Obamas campain 6 hours. This is a communism!!!

    • Kevin

      I could do a lot of damage in 6 hours. dialing for $, yelling at donors, calling them racists if they don’t give enough.

      • just me

        I am hoping Bill & Hillary will call in sick that week.

        • workingclass artist

          Personally….No matter what the DNC does to try and control this circus Both Clintons will so OUTSHINE….Obama et, al…as to be hilarious.
          They could do this even with mediochre speeches…chuckle..

      • yttik

        ROFL! I seriously considered that when the local Dems tried to get me to go door belling. “Hello, I’d like to talk to you about the Dem candidate Oblahblah. You ever heard of Rezko, Ayers?”

        They’re lucky I’m not devious enough to do that, LOL.

        • Kevin

          You should.

        • HARP

          I am

        • Kevin

          “Have you accepted BHO as your personal saviour?”

          • workingclass artist

            Well according to Haggee….I already belong to the Whore of Babylon Cult…chuckle…( Roman Catholic ) so I’m covered on both counts and not tempted by whoring my vote by Obama’s shallow Cult….chuckle…
            This is better than messin with the minds of mormons when they stop by to save my soul….chuckle….
            Sorry Obama….I prefer the Historical Jewish Jesus…and as a Roman Catholic I know Theocracy is FASCISM…DOOMED TO FAILURE…Aaaand since I’ll stick with my flawed but slowly righting Bark O Peter Cult…lol

        • Lorie

          you should have! :)

        • stodghie

          yup get the best of the literature about ayers, rev wright, etc and hand it out with democratic literature. that’ll learn them.

      • tzada

        lol just what I was thinking Kevin, too funny ^5

      • J.J.

        What a great idea!!!! Sign me up for 6 hours of volunteer work.

      • Obama is a bum

        That is a good idea — give the Obama punks their own medicine.

        • just me

          LOL Kevin & JJ…..

          this made me laugh and see the funny side of all this : My goodness best laugh I have had for a while….LOL

          I want 6 hours too in fact I DEMAND 6 HOURS…

  • candymarl

    Of course The Obama Party won’t give Hillary a prime speaking position.

    I don’t believe that was ever intended.

    This Unity crap was all for show.

    I wonder if Ludacris will be performing live? /snark

    • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

      I said this at the other place when it was first announced …. I’m more afraid this means she will be VP

      • Zee

        If she is, that will just give us more time to wait for, and somehow egg on, his implosion.

        • tek

          I like the way you think.

      • http://theheyjudeblog.blogspot.com Jude

        I am suspect of the same thing – I thought that her having a major speaking role on Tuesday, with the VP speaking Wednesday, precluded her from getting the nomination. Now, I’m not so sure…

        • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

          yep Jude – that is what I read here as well (maybe it was you that said it)

          sigh

          I’m not going to watch ANY of it until BILL speaks. I will come here and get the JEST of it from you all!

          Much better on my heart! ;-)

          Tragedy, deceit, evil obvious hatred of the Clintons (as I’ve read EVERYwhere) is not likely to just go away. I’ve never seen so many people that call themselves adults act so IGNORANT and IMMATURE!

          They all need to go, I’m afraid.

          the lingering elements of all of the 109th and MOST of the freshmen to the 110th (McCaskill especially) I hope she serves only one term.

          • http://theheyjudeblog.blogspot.com Jude

            The more I think about this, the less likely I think it is the case. As Machiavellian as such a twist would be, trying to tie our hands and putting an anchor around Hillary with the possibility of defeat, I just don’t see his ego being able to deal with her as his VP. He knows she would outshine him, and I think he and his inner circle are too arrogant to admit that he needs her. Put that together with a base that he whipped up to really despise the Clintons, and I’m talking myself out of thinking that he is planning to nominate her.

            At least, I’m hoping he does not nominate her…

            • joseyj

              The Elites propped up a newbie senator to keep Hillary OFF the ballot!
              No way are they now going to approve her being VP nominee.

              Obama/Hilton08

              Dems for McCain – NO Hussein!

              • stodghie

                hillary won’t get the veep nomination. it isn’t going to happen.

            • Faustina

              If the Democrats don’t have her on the ticket, I dont see how they can win.

              Perhaps the Democrats see the writing on the wall and know that some brewing scandal is going to force Obama to withdraw. So to prevent civil unrest and minimize the damage to their replacement candidate, they are going to nominate Obama with Hillary as VP and get out of Denver in one piece.

              That’s a bit of wishful thinking on my part. But if it’s not the case and they are just taking the limelight off Hillary so Obama won’t be upstaged, then they will lose bigtime. Obama will be pulverized in the GE.

              • ndree

                Bill Kristol says Colin Powell will be speaking one night!

            • Elizabeth

              His ego would not allow him to EVEN Consider having her as VP.

              • beebop

                Thank God his ego is so huge he’d rather lose.

    • Kevin

      lol
      they could have one of these sensitive poets every night, the kids would love it

    • American Woman

      I agree…just remember Donna Brazilnut’s comments…We don’t need them to win..Paul Begal’s comments..The New Democratic Party..Eggheads and AA..is ringing true..
      HILLARY, HILLARY..THE PEOPLE’S CHOICE

    • Boxer Mum 06

      Not sure but heard Kayne West will be.

    • helen

      So far I never looked at this abomination as a gender problem, I looked it as a security problem for a country that I love.
      To me All Americans, male, female, black, white , hispanic, asian and any where in between were not safe with backtrack barack as president.
      After this convention for any woman to ever vote democratic again is like being raped and made to say your sorry.

      COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

      PUMAS,BUBBAS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

      • Linda K

        Thank you, Helen. I agree this is what it’s come to.

  • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

    I’m so sick of these communists hijacking my party again, I just cannot wait till November 5.

    • workingclass artist

      ” It’s going to be an interesting election….” – Bill Clinton. 2008…chuckle….
      Wouldn’t it be kinda funny if because of these 2 extraordinary Clintons we actually saw the birth of a third party at this convention….Oh that would be rich…..Sorta the ultimate IRONY and KARMA DOMINOES ON A COLLECTIVE MASSIVE SCALE IN FRONT OF GOD AND EVERYBODY….LIVE ON TEEVEE…LOL

      • Susan

        I’m hoping by interesting election that meant she will do a floor fight at convention and then announce she is McCain’s VP choice! LOL!

        • Susan

          Or announcing she is leaving that scummy party and running Independent.

    • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

      Uppity I hope we survive til NOV.

      jez it’s so frustrating

    • AX10

      I know. The Berkley crowd has hijacked the party.
      It is sickening to watch this happen.
      I will have to make a pragmatic/strategic vote for John McCain. I do not want to risk having an inexperienced and power hungry Obama in the Whitehouse.

  • chicago4hillary

    There really is a take over.I am scared for the first time in my adult life.I thought democracy had deminished with the Bush White House.With an Obama in the White House democracy will be dead.Its happening right before our eyes.I understand how the German people were fooled.

  • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

    No offense to the people in her state, but Claire is a serious embarrassment when she talks. She wouldn’t even get past the lobby in the real world.

    • http://theheyjudeblog.blogspot.com Jude

      She gets that rapturous look on her face when she talks about Barry, like a religious zealot. Every time I see her on TV, I think of Lee Grant’s role as Damien’s aunt in “The Omen 2″:

      Damien: Omen II (1978)
      Richard Thorn: Ann, give me the daggers!
      Ann Thorn: [stabs him with the daggers] There are your daggers!
      Richard Thorn: Ann?
      Ann Thorn: I’ve always belonged to him!
      [Richard falls dead as Ann lets out a primal scream]
      Ann Thorn: Damien!

      :)

      • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

        mccaskill reminds me of that governess who jumped off the roof at the birthday party

        h/t to the NQ poster who mentioned that scene here recently!!

    • CLEM GRECO

      i couldn’t agree more…claire makes women look bad…..when she speaks i cringe…she’s the poster child for what women we don’t want n elcted office!!

  • ssmith

    this to me means 2 things:

    1) Hillary will be on the roll call for nomination

    2) Hillary will NOT be a VP candidate

    good thing too! this Oba-titanic will be sinking soon.. and I want Hillary and Bill NO WHERE NEAR IT!

  • Ani

    Politico also reported her not being the keynote speaker any more – only one of four on Tuesday night.

    The lady has 18,000,000 voters. And Obama is still treating her like a cast-off.

    Is he trying to lose this election?

    So I guess he doesn’t want to honor her as he told his daughters he did.

    Way to set an example, Barack.

    The more disrespectful he is to her, the more infuriated her voters become — and I am including crossover Republicans and Independent voters in this, too. Many have indicated their disgust to me and their great upset at not being able to vote for Hillary.

    By not honoring her properly and trying to pretend she doesn’t exist, he and the idiotic DNC are making their beds. I just hope they are all prepared to lie in them. I have a funny feeling it’s not going to be pretty come November.

    • missE

      Ani, of course a man should be the keynote speaker instead of the women that got the most votes, after all Aug, 26 is only the anniversary of the women’s vote becoming law.

      I hope they keep pissing women off, Obama will lose.

      • Tumby J

        I’m sorry, but it’s comments like that which undermine the entire argument that sexism derailed the HRC campaign.

        You can’t just cry “sexism!” every time something less than ideal happens to HRC. There’s a heck of a lot more to her than her gender.

        • basil

          But it’s ok to scream ‘racism’ at any criticism of Waffles?

          gimmeabreak

          • Ferdberfle

            Tumby J is one of the early versions of the obamatron and not too sophisticated.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkOADdNSr-o Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

          Unfortunately you are right. There is a heck of a lot more to hillary than just voting for a pair of boobs to rectify the historical injustices against women.

          Unfortunatley in Obamas case there isn’t. All he has is the race card the race guilt the race entitlement and the race bait…and no balls…which is why every time anyone says anything against him they are branded as racists.

          Its unfortunate that African Americans dont realize how they have been played.

          Its equivalant to a guy putting on a pair of high heels at a rip roarin bachelor party and then using that as a basis to claim to represent the transgender community.

          Obama purchased his Street Cred through the pews of Trinity. Cuz you know, his typical white grandma probably didn’t let him wear baggy clothes and talk smack.

          Fakest Fake Ever.

        • beebop

          So, I guess there would be no significance to “I have a dream day?” PUH-LEZ … you’re rather a dim light bulb, aren’t you sparky?

        • stodghie

          tumby, go wash your mouth out with soap and stop putting those nasty thing in your mouth.

    • Raven

      Checked out Taylor’s site…someone posted having
      an insight on the VP being a female governor…
      Sebelious? Female to appease? Ready to be president?
      Oh, but she doesn’t intimidate OB. Big requirement
      for the J O B! Does not instill confidence for me.
      What do you guys think?

      • Boxer Mum 06

        This is ok guys – b/c all of these things will blow up in their faces and just anger the HRC voters that aren’t on NQ and other places like us.

        This will help Obama lose b/c it will piss off all those bitter folks still clinging to their guns and religion that may have forgotten their anger over the whole mess.

        Again, I think – like the European love tour – this too will back fire.

        Why is Michelle’s brother deserving of a speech and why is she deserving of an introduction? Is this normal practice? Did Hillary’s brothers introduce her when Bill won the nod? Did Hillary give a grandstanding speech?

        Can’t wait to see the fall out over this flop!

    • helen

      What part of votes are so 20th century don’t you understand?
      Now the democrats just select not elect.
      Get with the program.

      COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

      PUMAS,BUBBAS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    I believe Hillary IS VP

    then Obummer will stepdown later after being undone by GOP using his own past against him

    then Hill will stepup to run as POTUS

    we will win in a landslide

    OMMMMMMMMMM

    • just me

      you know Hillary as vp makes me wanna scream however I do feel she will be the only one to be able to step up to the plate and carry the position off… If this is the scenario let’s hope he has to step down before Nov4h….

    • tj coleman

      I am with you on this one. As unlikely as it may seem I think the dems are trying to make it look like BO is the nominee. What a better way to cancel a stadium that is booked then by telling everyone who wants to come that they have to volunteer for BO. Can’t book it, must cancel it. HMMMM makes ya think huh. Is this all a front so that it looks as if BO was cast out by the delegates, and not set up to fall by the DNC? There may actually be a mutiny a foot. Keep him thinking has the one so that he doesn’t catch onto the plan.

    • workingclass artist

      That Ginaswo is the ONLY theory that gives me PAUSE….Hmmm……
      Even if HRC wasn’t able to win because the damage done to the party by Obama and the Demofascists is so deep…..It could be the only way to purge the Party built by FDR and she would be in excellent shape for 2012. It will be interesting to see what developes…..no ?

    • llilytoo

      I pray you are right!…. about Hill being POTUS that is.

      Hill as VP would be the only thing that might put a hitch in the GOP artillery.If they bring Barry down, oops then it’s hello, Madame President Hillary Clinton….it would be the only thing that would stay their hand.

      However I’m thinking Barry and company are not bright enough to figure this out.

      • workingclass artist

        Hmmmm….I think anyway you cut it HRC looks good and retains her support regardless because her support is not based on a shallow BS hero worship but is deeper as most folks see that her record reflects….hmmm….Gee a thoughtful and intelligent grownup who is a big picture savvy politician….

    • AF catfish

      Either she is veep or he is newly steamed over the Atlantic article on her leaked memos and all the PUMA uprising while he is in Hawaii.

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    ANOTHER ANGLE

    someone posted a way back that there is a ROOL that PRECLUDES nominees form having KEYNOTE speaking roles at the convention!

    can someone confirm this in the ROOLZ

    this may be what we were waiting for the sign her name is in!!

    • workingclass artist

      agree…Is this a rule….or a custom.

    • http://theheyjudeblog.blogspot.com Jude

      I used the word ‘preclude’ above, but meant it as traditional, not prohibited.

      I downloaded the charter and bylaws of the DNC and see nothing regarding who can or cannot speak at the Convention.

      Interestingly, though, I did see this little paragraph, which makes me wonder if what was reported by Uppity here yesterday http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/13/a-sign-that-the-dnc-and-the-one-are-channeling-stalin has legal ramifications:

      Article 2: National Convention
      Section 4. The National Convention shall be composed of delegates equally divided between men and
      women. The delegates shall be chosen through processes which:

      (b) assure that delegations fairly reflect the division of preferences expressed by those who
      participate in the Presidential nominating process,

      Article 9: General Provisions
      Section 10. The Democratic Party shall not require a delegate to a Party convention or caucus to cast
      a vote contrary to his or her expressed preference.

      So how is it that the DNC is getting away with replacing delegates that are still expressing their desire to cast a vote for Senator Clinton?

      • Diana

        I have been commenting about the legality of this for months now. I even posed the question to gurus Pelosi and the DNC and never got a reply. Asked it of Fienstein. She never answered. I want to know if the rules state Hillary can be included in a roll call/ballot how is it Obama can go against the rules and replace her delegates with his supporters? Which we know for a fact is happening because private emails were sent to a newspaper from a senator, and Obama’s camp apologized for the language in them. Not for replacing her delegates with his supporters. Where has Democracy gone in the Democratic Party?

        • http://theheyjudeblog.blogspot.com Jude

          It looks like a complaint could be filed with the FEC on this issue. That’s the only recourse outside of the corrupt circle inside the DNC that appears to be available, and I’m not 100% sure that option is truly viable, else I would think one of the ousted delegates would choose it…

          • csuzeq

            Could PUMAs file a class action lawsuit against the DNC? I have been wondering this for months. I even think Clinton could file suit, but I do understand why she doesn’t.

            • http://theheyjudeblog.blogspot.com Jude

              I was wrong about the FEC. After some more searches, the only jurisdiction the FEC seems to have is over campaign financing issues.

              I don’t know what entity outside of the DNC, if any, can hear complaints about the DNC.

              I suppose if such a thing could have happened, it would have, after the May 31 Rules Committee decision.

              What a cluster.

              • workingclass artist

                Hmmm…Jude you and Diana have a bagel to chew on…It is very interesting….Thanks for the info and the links…..Hmmm…..

  • just me

    It’s a real family affair ugh?

    This is not the family I thought it was!

    Hillary 08

    No Hillary then McCain it is.

  • joanna4Hillary

    okay, my take on Hill not being keynote speaker is Obie begged her to be his VP so he could get all her supporters to back him. Bill is introducing the VP and what fun it would be to have him introduce Hill!! (wrong) (puke)….Being vp means nothing to me…..you vote for #1 not #2….and I will never vote for this communist! In my life, I’ve never seen anything like this! Maybe he’ll stay in Hawaii with his typical white Grammie…

  • PGraber

    It won’t matter who else speaks at the convention – Hillary’s and Bill’s speeches will be the best. The rest will sound like young, junior high speakers. I can’t wait to hear Hillary and Bill.

    • csuzeq

      Both Hil and Bill have speeches in the top 100 at American Rhetoric’s website! I should check to see if any other Senator’s do. I don’t think so. Her speech is as first lady, btu still, I don’t think there are other first ladies in the top 100 either.

      Obie the great orator is not in the top 100. HA! Great orator my ass

      GOMA!

      • Ferdberfle

        He can only read a teleprompter and his oratorical skills are pedestrian at best. He is uninspiring, especially given all the hype that precedes his blathering. I end up feeling as though I’ve been cheated.

      • workingclass artist

        Isn’t that a great site…I stumbled onto it when MSM NEWSPORN was gushing over Obama’s LAME exscuse of a race speech. LBJ and WJC have great Race Speeches in the top 100 along with MLK and Jackson. Teddy Roosevelts speech about Yellow Journalism IS A MUST READ…AND PROPHETIC…

  • Fenelon spoke

    I won’t be watching the Denver rock tour. I will just tune into blogs like this and others to get news about PUMA actions. It’s to the point where looking at Obama makes me queasy.

    • wodiej

      same here…not watching it even for Bill and Hill.

      • Lester

        Same here. I cannot stomach it.

    • ritamary

      I don’t watch television and I would not waste my time watching this miserable farce called the “Democratic” Convention. And I hope Kerry is the VP. The two losers can go down in flames together.

      The only way to get rid of this Obot bunch is for them to lose in a landslide in November. When the Republicans go into action after the convention the voters will finally learn the truth about Obummer.

    • Ferdberfle

      I’d rather open up my head and feel my brain than watch that American Idol wannabe coronation.

    • stodghie

      i plan to go to the bookstore and treat myself to some good books. i plan to turn the tv off. i am my best friend and look out for my sanity.

  • NoBO

    Looks like the first night of the convention will be a big, eye watering yawn. I won’t be watching. What’s on TCM? I’ll watch Hillary Tues. night and skip the rest. Looks to be a really boring convention but let’s hope the delegates make things interesting. ;)

    • J.J.

      I will be watching on Monday night, just in case Michelle’s teleprompter breaks down and she has to ad-lib.

      Michelle speaking unscripted is like watching a high-wire act without a net.

    • csuzeq

      I’d rather watch test patterns.

      Maybe there could be some disaster where the news nedia has to go to breaking news or something.

  • http://investigatebarackobama.wordpress.com/puma/ kat in your hat

    wtf? Mark WARNER?

    Afraid Hillary will upstage the Obama coronation? Desperate obnoxious bunch of losers. I can’t stand the majority of the supposed leaders in this stinking dem party.

    What’s next, Hillary’s speech will be trimmed down, only three minutes allowed, oh, and she can only wear black, and no makeup, and she must not face the audience. How about she only speaks in sign language, or pantomimes her speech? Oh, and make sure Hillary’s lighting is fluorescent, no, no–black light. Strobe lights maybe? Try to ruin the whole thing, maybe air horns can blast every 30 seconds of her speech?

    You jealous and scared jerks, maybe you have been reading articles such as this one that came out today? Idiots.

    “Polls Show Election Landslide Unlikely”
    http://news.aol.com/elections/article/polls-show-election-landslide-unlikely/131566

    • MrMike

      Democrat Party aka He-man Women Haters Club.

      • MrMike

        Starring Alfalfa Reid, Darla Pelosi, and Spanky Dean. I ain’t touching Buckwheat. :)

        • wodiej

          LMAO….

        • WildChild

          Buckwheat was gunned down by MOMO. Photo of his last terrifying moments…

          http://naani.com/Articles/content_images/1/buckwheat.jpg

          • Ferdberfle

            LOL. You do come up with some doozies.

        • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

          dude you got that wrong

          Brazile is BUCKwheat
          BAmbi is Alfalfa
          Darla is Claire (she hearts Alfie)
          Dean is Spanky
          Pelosi is the dog

      • Firefly

        More like gang rapists.

    • yttik

      Obama can’t stand to be upstaged. It’s going to be interesting trying to find a VP who will remember to walk three steps behind him.It’s going to be kind of like the “King and I.” Nobody’s head can be as high as the emperor’s.

      He’s pretty good at pretending to be two differant people at the same time. Maybe he’ll chose himself as VP. I am President anti-war and here’e my little VP, Let’s-Bomb-Pakistan. He can call himself President Obama and his VP can be Barry Soetoro.

      • just me

        upstaged he cannot stand having one word of criticism against him….

        he thinks he is the “ONE” along with prime time MSM

        did anyone of these read the bible? {not preaching faith here just showing an example}
        it was not plain sailing for Jesus.
        How many times was he stabbed in the back from loyal followers.

        I just hope Obama is strong enough to carry his own cross.

        This shows us this is ONE show many do not want to watch.

      • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

        and for the rest of we Dems

        behind door number two they have a lovely gift for us:

        we can be escorted to a series of Clockwork Orangesque holding cells where
        “Happy Talk Keep Talkin Happy Talk” will be blasted into our ears while our eyes are propped open to see films of The One..

        Democratic re-education facility

        ahhh chills down the spine!!

      • Northwest rain

        My guess — Barack H. Obama — president

        Barry Soetoro — vice president

    • csuzeq

      All women dems must now wear burkas.

      • Hope Floats

        HAHAHA.

        Duh na na na nuh nuh MY SHARIA

    • stodghie

      either there are lot of repubs taking that poll or obama is in real trouble.

  • Zaggs

    What you expected Obama to give Hillary major face time? Silly dems trix are for obamatons!
    Obama will do just enough to act like he cares about hillary supporters. But to him you’re just racists or uncle toms so you’d better get used to the treatment.
    And no Hillary will not be VP, nor should any hillary fan want her to be the messiah’s VP. Think Cheney has too much power? Imagine the polar opposite, that would be Hillary under Obama.

    • Michelle

      “Silly dems trix are for obamatons!”

      OK, this is my new catch-phrase…..too funny!

  • Objective analysis

    He is dumb. Just keeping on making her 18 Million supporters mad.

    Roll Call. Can’t wait to see the true birth certificate of Obama or Soetoro.

  • Get a brain moran

    saw this story on Mydd. Read the comments and all i can say is HEEEEEEEEYYYYY KOOOOOOL AID!! blech

    http://images.quickblogcast.com/37835-35038/kool_aid.gif

  • lizpolaris

    It’s good to see that Obambi clearly understands what it will take to create unity in the Dem party.

    His capacity to snub and belittle people he should be wooing as friends never ceases to amaze me.

  • MrMike

    How about, “Hillary Supporters, Invisible” for a theme?
    Doesn’t make any difference to me what they do in Denver, I’m done with these guys.

    • yttik

      Oblahblah is a self centered idiot. But if he was smart, “you are not invisible to me” would have been the theme for Aug 26. Hillary rallied a lot of supporters around that idea.

    • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

      too bad UC Berkley isnt a bit more ahead on their invisibility breakthrough…

      we could usher in our dels under a cloaking shield to protect them from threats so they could put Hill in for nomination..

      http://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2008/08/11_light.shtml

    • fif

      Ditto Mike

  • just me

    this is the only 5 mins of fame he will get Nov 5th he’s off back to where he belongs. Maybe his family Raila Odinga has a slot for him he too is the agent for change!

  • workingclass artist

    I had a funny dream….HRC does a great speech reminding voters as to why she is such a superior candidate….chuckle….and then that rascal Bill rallying the base to form a third party under the principles of FDR and Obama’s NOI thugs tryin to wrestle him off the podium….strange dream….

    • MrMike

      Only problem is while Reid had no problem crawling up Joe Liberman’s butt should Hillary break away from the Democrat Party it would end her effectiveness as a Senator. I hear the Obamazoids are planning to primary her out of spite because she had the audacity to run against His Majesty.

      • workingclass artist

        Hmmm….Pastor Manning ( MLK’s Avenging Angel ) vs. Rev. Sharpton outside WJC HQTRS. in Harlem…..Hmmm…..Of course what Commissar Brazealot forgets is that New York is WAY BIGGER than NYC…..Kinda like Pennsylvania is WAY BIGGER than Philadelphia….and Michigan is WAY BIGGER THAN Detroit…..chuckle…..
        Everytime Obama and the rest of his demofascists for a New America step out of their Urban Bubble they see that Hey! There’s a lot of real estate in between these Great Bastions of Obama Support….and that most voters over 40 just want a GROWN UP in the White House…..Obama cannot close the deal……Aaaaand Baby Boomers still outnumber twenty somethings of which 1/2 of these OBOTS are Christian Campers who will go back to Camp after the coronation….lol……sheeesh!

        • Boxer Mum 06

          Can I get an AMEN???

          Great points artist

      • Susan

        With their ADD attention spans, they’ll never remember when the time comes.

      • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

        oh yeah hope they go for it

        it will unleash a MASSIVE wave of outrage nationwide and Hill will get enough donations to keep her seat for LIFE!!!

      • fif

        I’m a New Yorker, and she is NOT GOING ANYWHERE. 67% voted her in on her second run. She won 18 million voters, who is going to challenge HRC in NY?

        Bring it on.

      • Grail Guardian

        I don’t understand why even the Obama crazies would think that New Yorkers would give up a Senator with the power Hillary has acquired. She won 62% of the vote in 2006, and that was not all votes from NYC. Besides, the way Obama has been acting I’m not so sure he has all of the NYC vote anymore. We would be stupid to give up a Senator that sits on several powerful committees, and that wouldn’t really fly too well with most voters here.

      • AX10

        Don’t worry. Once we defeat Obama in November, it’s on to Illinois to defeat him once and forall.

      • Patti

        I have seen that comment on blogs all over the internet..

        Apparently they dont realize there is more to NY than the city. And NEW YORKERS wont vote for just any DEMOCRAT.

        PGCSNY…

    • tzada

      I think it could well happen. Can you imagine? It would be chaotic in a cleansing way.

      Wonder if “they” would haul Bill and Hill off to the galug? The one that is already prepared with the cages, and the chain and the barbed wire, in the warehouse. Yes that one.

  • http://www.hillaryloyalistnowformccain.com valsthewoman

    McCain/Clinton ticket needs to happen. This party is a disgrace.

    • workingclass artist

      I think that would be the Ultimate Triumph for Independents…lol…Truthfully
      if any two politicians could pull that off it would be them and it would expose both controlling fringes of both parties and push each to the side and unite The Great American Middle…..THAT WOULD BE THE MOST HISTRORIC POLITICAL HOOT SINCE LINCOLN LINED HIS CABINET WITH BI-PARTISAN OPPONENTS….I’D GO FOR IT…chuckle….

    • Papoose

      Now that’s the ticket.

  • pew

    I’m still curious, what the two surprises will be that was mentioned by Pelosi..If the party is to be unified,the only way I can see that happening,would be if Clinton is on top of the ticket…
    I don’t really care one way or another where Obama is..

    Clinton-Nominee for President
    Obama -Vice Pres

    That’s the only inifying I can see…

    • Ani

      What surprises — when did Pelosi mention this please? Can you post a link? Or a quote.

      Many thanks.

      • pew

        I think it was on the day,she said the party would be unified.It was a couple of weeks back..

    • workingclass artist

      They could have Al Gore in the pocket…doubt it….But I smell DNC FLOP SWEAT….Who knows they are so insane at this point….anything is possible

    • cleffnote

      Big pelosi surpirse.

      1. Buy my book
      2. Please buy my book

      Talk about being out of touch. Go Cindy.

      • csuzeq

        I’d rather burn her book, but I don’t want it to cost anything. Maybe they can send them out by mail with their next contribuation request!

    • roseeriter

      Colin Powell is going to be a speaker and endorse Obama at the convention also. Maybe that’s a surprise.

      • Boxer Mum 06

        I would believe that .. maybe he is the surprise text msgd VP too??

  • ford

    I interpret this to mean that Hillary is being punished for not what Obama thinks he needs right now. It displays his stupidity for all to see.

    It also suggest that he is a very petty man.

  • HARP

    Wait until he picks Elmer Fudd for VP. He will show that “waskilly wabbit” Putin a thing or two.

  • ford

    kat in your hat, thank you!

  • tzada

    AOL POLL

    What’s your prediction for who will win the presidential race?
    McCain, by a slim margin 49%
    Obama, by a slim margin 27%
    McCain, by a landslide 15%
    Obama, by a landslide 9%
    Total Votes: 21,267

    Who do you want to see win the presidential race?
    John McCain 59%
    Barack Obama 31%
    Someone else 10%
    Total Votes: 22,653

  • Francis

    What’s up with this site?

    Some of the contributors and posters on here have been allowed to disseminate some of the most hateful stuff I’ve ever seen the past couple of months.

    For example, PUMA, did you know your hero Larry Sinclair was on the Hal Turner Radio Show last month? Yes, that Hal Turner the former head of the Aryan Nation.

    He’s not the only NQ contributor to have neo-nazi sympathies. According to Joseph Cannonfire, Techdude and Texas Darlin both have some periphery affiliations with neo-nazi websites.

    Now Cannon includes all of the necessary caveats and benefits of the doubt, but he has some circumstantial evidence. The pattern of NQ the past few months has not been exactly to demand absolute proof.

    What I really want to know is this, Hillary supporters: How did you become so blind in your hatred towards Obama you are willing to consort with neo-nazis in order to smear him? Is this what Hillary wants? Is this what “feminism” is all about?

    When Michelle Obama is allowed to be called “Queen Kong” and a “transvestite” on your website, and NO ONE on NQ says shit, what am I as a reader suppose to think of your intentions? Is that advancing the cause of feminism? When Obama’s dead parents and infirmed grandmother are called wicked, vile, horrible names, what are we suppose to think? When debbie disagreed with another NQ poster, Joe, yesterday, she was told to “get on her knees and open her mouth!”. Ah, very progressive Joe. And of course, no “feminists” came to debbie’s defense because, hey she’s just a troll.

    I know there are many of you who are only here to voice your support for Hillary and will under no circumstances vote for Obama. Fine. We got it. There are many choices on the ballot this year, and I encourage you to vote for the candidate who you feel best reflects your vision for America.

    However, embracing hate mongers and internet con artists only serves to discredit your cause and your candidate.

    When you lay down with dogs, you will get flees.

    • MrMike

      When you lay down with dogs, you will get flees.

      Or Kosroids :) Both sides of this argument have their extremists. In defense all I can say is the hate started with the Obama supporters first.

      • http://www.greensunshine.net jadwiga

        Francis, we have been through this before. I asked you to provide examples for the Queen Kong and transvestite.
        You came up with three references to Rev. Mannings speeches about Michelle Obama. None about her being a transvestite.
        Are you saying that your informations prove that she actually is one? I can’t believe it. It is way to strange even for her.

        • Francis

          Ah yes. Answer a question with a question. Classic NQ.

          You came up with three references to Rev. Mannings speeches about Michelle Obama.

          Right and all three though it was “hilarious”! So when you agree with a racist idea, that makes you a…

          • http://www.greensunshine.net jadwiga

            …tasteless.

            You still didn’t prove that somebody called Michelle transvestite.

            BTW it IS tasteless to giggle on what Manning has to say about Michelle. I don’t agree with that. Most of us don’t agree with that.

            I don’t think the remarks were racist. However, as I previously recommended, please take it up with Reverend Manning, the author of those remarks.

            How is somebody racist against his own race? Please explain.

          • AX10

            It is true that Hal Turner is a bigot, but so is Jerimiah Wright. It seems you left wing extremists have no problem with a certain form of bigotry (that is blacks who hate whites).
            The Nation is in the same league too.

            • Francis

              You are comparing neo-nazis to the United Church of Christ?

              Also, Obama has NOTHING to do with the Nation of Islam, so please stop spreading that lie too.

              • http://www.greensunshine.net jadwiga

                … other than his connection to Farrakhan and having NOI guys work for him.

                Bigottry is what it is regardles of political party.

                Fascism is still the same even if communists are behaving that way.

              • stodghie

                well if the church of christ willingly allows trash like this, then so be it. you know about sleeping with dogs, francis. you seem to know a lot about that. i highly recommend you visit petco buddy.

          • roseeriter

            Lots of Republican extremeist pop and troll here also. Own Your Own Phony Empty Suit Candidate

            WE DON”T WANT HIM.

          • MIDem

            I thought Rev. Wright was racist, and sexist.
            Obummer had no qualms subjecting his impressionable children to that garbage.
            20 years is a long time.

        • Hope Floats

          Fred C. Dobbs called MO Queen Kong, and I think it is pretty funny. I have called her a transvestite. SFW? MO is not running for anything but First Lady or Ms. Congeniality. She made a comment about what she would like to do to Bill Clinton – scratch his eyes out. She had some house-keeping tips for HRC. I think she’s unladylike, unattractive, unpleasant and “just downright mean.” It would be sexist, if she were running for office and these comments were distracting from the issues. Instead, it’s just the way it is. I called Theresa Heinz Kerry the Tomato Bitch. Don’t get me started on what the Obama supporters say about Cindy McCain. Too bad.

          • workingclass artist

            LOL….I THINK MR. DOBBS CALLING MEEECHELLE SASQUATCH….IS MY FAVORITE….CHUCKLE….

      • Lucinda

        Amen! The most hateful comments I’ve seen come from the Obama trolls who wander over here to insult everyone who doesn’t agree with their Messiah.

        • Francis

          So that’s gives others free license to call Michelle Obama racist and misogynist terms. Good logic.

          Again, it’s not the racist nutballs who bother me. It’s the other people who stand aside and let them…oh never mind.

          • roseeriter

            Oh and Kos, Mydd Huffy didn’t do that to Hillary supporters.

            You phony hypocritical so called progressive democrats make me sick!

            • imustprotest

              You know ordinarly Francis, I’d agree with you. But these are not ordinary times. And who do we have to thank for that? Mr. Unifier himself Oblah. After what I, personally, have witnessed in terms of vulgar, misogynistic, ageist and simply mean comments and attacks from Obama supporters/trolls/MSM/DNC….I say take your faux outrage somewhere else.

          • Ferdberfle

            Again, it’s not the racist nutballs who bother me. It’s the other people who stand aside and let them…oh never mind.

            And you’re the one who said this should be an open site. Well, goober, since it is open, you may see some things you don’t like. Either deal with it or go to your crying room and have your weepy fit.

            I don’t particularly care for your brainwashed commentary and I’ll deride you for it but you can post and spin to your heart’s content until you blow chunks.

          • Linda K

            Give it a rest, Francis. Hillary was subsjected to much worse and few stood up for her. Name calling and pejorative comments are probably inappropriate, but I, too, dislike Mrs. Obama and I can’t find it in my heart to stand up for her even though I’ve worked for equal rights my whole adult life. Maybe it’s not nice or kind, but we’re angry with the DNC, the MSM, and Senator Obama’s supporters have been overzealous in their comments and diatribe.

    • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

      “…what am I as a reader suppose to think of your intentions?”

      Why don’t you just stop coming here? Nobody is twisting your little troll arm to visit this site.

      Who’s the “we” you refer to in your comment:

      “…know there are many of you who are only here to voice your support for Hillary and will under no circumstances vote for Obama. Fine. We got it.”

      Get lost. If you don’t like what you are reading. Stop coming. I don’t visit pro-BHO sites because I don’t want shit on my keyboard and monitor, so why don’t you stop coming here if this all feels like such shit to you. Damn. Are you Obots that stupid?

      • http://! Clinton Fan

        Sugar,

        The trolls come because they are afraid.

        Well, some come because they are paid, but many come because they are scared shitless of the uncomfortable reality that WE MATTER.

        That there are a LOT of people out there not just in Heartland America, but on both coasts, that feel the SAME DAMNED WAY WE DO.

        They can’t get us to cross over to the KoolAid Club with their YES WE CAN CHANGE BELIEVE HOPE meaningless bullshit mantras, so now they’re resorting to thuggery, intimidation, threats, and annoying spamming.

        All that shit does for me is make me laugh.

        I have come to love these trolls–they’re telling us that we’ve GOTTEN TO THEM…otherwise they wouldn’t be here!

        Oh, and they’re also doing a real good job of making me rethink my protest vote for Cynthia McKinney…if they keep this up, I just may vote for The Ancient Mariner…only because I know it would reeeeeeally piss them off.

        If they keep it up, I just may send the old bastard a symbolic ten bucks!

        • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

          Clinton Fan, if that convention ends with Obama as the nominee, I will most definitely making a donation to the “Ancient Mariner”. hahahahaah Gosh, I hadn’t thought about that story in forever! Thanks for that trip down English Lit memory lane. Anyway, I will not only make a donation, I will try to get others to donate to him too in those last couple of days before August fundraising closes up. The last month in which he can accept funds. I just can’t bring myself to do it now.

      • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

        I’ve had the EXACT same argument with TROLLS that kept coming back to the DNC OPEN THread and they talked exactly the same!!!

        I think they are clones. We just don’t KNOW they can clone OBOTS yet!

        BIG secret revealed~!~! here first!

        lmao

        • Katmoon

          It’s just Francis the talking Mule

        • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

          Clones indeed! It’s ridiculous the way they come around with the same old talking points. Sheesh! Have you guys taken a look around John McCain’s YouTube channel and the way they swarm the comment section there!? Scary stuff!!!

    • HARP

      debbie was here to receive communion… and its fleas.

      • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

        When the trollz talk now all I hear is mwah mwah mwah mwah mwah like the teacher in Charlie Brown….

        • fif

          LOL! Great ginaswo. I skip right over them most of the time, they are so programmed and infantile.

    • UniversityofIowaJR

      Oh, btw, not all of us believe Larry Sinclair. Don’t be so generalizing.

      And ou think the “hatred” here is bad? Go to cannonfire.blogspot.com and go through the archives, they have good records on the slime you fools spewed during this primary.

    • http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

      *Yawn*

      Hey Francis you were one of the leaders calling Hillary a whore during the primaries, and pimping out Chelsea, so go back to your land of lala and keep hoping your fleas aren’t infected with lime disease!

      • just me

        there is more hatred out there from Obama supporters…. this is where I guess many learned how to put up the wall of protection.

        In a thread: ’Sexism will rise like crazy once Hillary is out’
        A poster (Y from Alameda, CA) had THIS solution
        for Senator Hillary Clinton,
        the former First Lady of The United States:

        “Just slit her throat, lock her in a car boot,
        and drive the car into river in West Virgina
        Ain’t gonna let no whore screw with the man”

        slashed tires
        threats to women and children

        and as others say leave if your not happy here it’s easy very easy

        • Francis

          What are you talking about? Does that justify similar comments about Michelle Obama?

          • roseeriter

            Are you talkin’ ’bout the Mechelle that has never been proud to be an American? Or is it the Michelle that thinks our souls are broken?? That idiot? Is that who you’re talkin” about???

            Own your own candidate and wife.. NOBAMA EVER!!!

          • Mydress

            MO – Lady Horse with huge butt!

          • stodghie

            michelle obama in her private life can go and say anywhere or anything she pleases, but when she wants to sit her arse in the wh and talk trash, i say to helx with her and that husband of hers. got it francis.

          • Hope Floats

            I have never seen comments about MO anywhere near the frightening degree of violence directed at HRC toward the end of the primaries.

      • Francis

        Whatever…I didn’t discover this den of hate until after the primaries. Hillary is an honorable woman and a great American.

        I think it would sicken her to come and read some of the vile comments made by her supporters. In fact, she and Michelle Obama have been talking on the phone recently. Hillary has been giving her advice on how to handle all of the smears thrown her way. Isn’t it ironic?

        Apparently they have a lot in common.

        • CJ

          Francis, this “den of hate” is the ony place I have not been called a racist or old hag for expressing an opinion. As noted above, there are people on both sides of this election who use expressions that might make others angry or uncomfortable. Surely you couldn’t possibly believe that Obama’s camp has been gracious towards Hillary?

          If what you say about Hillary and Michelle being phone buddies is true, yes it is rather ironic that Hillary would advise Michelle on how to handle smears. I find it especially ironic since Michelle generated smears against Hillary. Other than both of them being the mothers of daughters, I wonder what else they really would have in common.

        • Zee

          What smears?

          More bullshit.

          Has Michelle been called a fucking whore? Has a group called C.U.N.T. been formed against her? Has anyone flipped her the finger or brushed her dirt off their shoulders? Has anyone played “99 problems and not one of them a bitch” in her honor? Has anyone written a rap song about how she’s an irrelevant bitch? Has anyone said someone should take her behind the barn? Has anyone said someone should take her into a room and only he come out?

          The worst that’s been said about Michelle is to make fun of her hair and clothes, which I don’t agree with, but hey…even Edwards and Mittwit get made fun of for that.

          This must be part of the new marching orders. Buzzflash (Mark Karlin the Obama-fluffer’s site) linked to a site dedicated to this meme. There was NO information, no specific charge, just a FAKE website decrying this supposed wave of sexist attacks on Michelle.

          • SC

            I had forgotten about all those things, Zee, but you’re absolutely right. There have been some pretty awful things said about Hillary that promote violence. I can’t get over Keith Olbermann’s comments about somebody taking Hillary into a room and only he come out. That to me is a threat of violence and I personally think he should be tossed in jail for it. And that rapper saying McCain should be a in a wheelchair. And this is a den of hate? When Obama’s supporters are threatening violence and we’re a den of hate? Unbelievable.

            • Francis

              Therefore it is OK to say racist/mysogynists things about Michelle O.

              What a bunch a hypocrites!

              • http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

                Nope, everyone learned to take the lead from Michelle Obama who introduced the race card and mysogynists things into the election, amazing how the bambibots forget the evil doings of their leader so quickly!

                BTW, what proof do you have of Hillary and Michelle talking on the phone, you speak to ghosts like Bambi does too?

              • Hope Floats

                Michelle Obama is so fucking black the oil light goes off when she sits in the car. Her feet are so big her shoes need license plates. She is big, ugly, scary and mean.

          • Northwest rain

            Mrs Obama is BLACK/Black/AA — she is of the post feminist era.

            Her college thesis was about being BLACK — not female (in a formally all male college).

            So I don’t consider her feminist or particularly female — I see her as she wants to be viewed — as a bad ass black woman who has MADE IT. And she lives better then the vast majority of Americans — disregarding their race or gender. She’s another Oprah — who brags when the cameras aren’t rolling about all the white folk who work for HER. She’s another hater.

            This BLACK person now wants to play the sexism game — she is full of crap. She has done NOTHING for women — only for herself. Which seems to be what the princesses of the Chicago machine do — take care of themselves.

            However, these women are delusional because as Shirley Chisholm observed — politics is still a boy’s club and this is still a man’s world.

            I’ll add — this world is screwed up BECAUSE it is too damned much a man’s world. Even Polosie is a women hater — IF she couldn’t see the blatant sexism THEN she is part of the problem and she is women’s worst enemies.

            We needed Hillary to start the clean up process — not that she is perfect — but because she remembers that she is female and she has a debt to pay to the women who came before us.

            PUMA power.

            • Linda K

              Thank you for this post, Northwest Rain. In concur.

        • tek

          Bwhaaaahaaaa! Hillary and Michelle Obama have a lot in common. Just keep thinking that. Michelle Obama is the most graceless, classless person ever to come close to the WH. A person who hates all but her own ethnic group and craves money and power personally and will do anything to attain it. She IS what the Republicans accuse Hillary of being.

        • Perry Logan

          Here’s the thing: Obama and his followers have earned our hatred.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCRLBJfVXIQ

        • MIDem

          It doesn’t surprise me at all.
          Hillary has always been classy.
          That is who she is.
          A remarkable Senator, First Lady and Statesman that did not deserve the treatment that she received from Obama.
          If he had stuck up for her, then I might have had an ounce of respect for him.
          He showed who he is, and it aint pretty.

    • http://dontcallmesweetie.blogspot.com/ Blu

      When you lay down with dogs, you will get flees.

      Auchi
      Rezko
      Wright
      Farrakhan
      Meeks
      Ayers
      Edwards
      Obama
      Obama Supporters

      A regular flee circus!

      • Lucinda

        LOL! Good one!

    • Kevin

      Francis
      Debbie is allegedly a grown up, and comes here as do you, just to stir things up, like kids throwing rocks at a hornet nest.
      I don’t own Larry, or TD or anyone else.
      So your implication that we are somehow neo-nazis is another troll insult.
      Typical trolling behaviour.

      So then Francis, I’ve asked this of Debbie, and I’ll ask it of you.
      Give me a good reason to vote for BHO.
      Just one.
      And please, remember the only rule.
      You cannot use hope or change in your answer.

      • Kevin

        Francis
        Sorry, you didn’t feel able/willing to answer.

        See, that’s the problem. None of you can answer that simple question.

        Wonder why

        • Skiron

          Here’s one reason, among many: he has been against the Iraq war from the get-go.

          • leisa

            Skiron,

            Be very careful, your ignorance is showing….

            • Skiron

              Oh tell me then…when HAS he been for the war?

              • leisa

                2004 convention, when supporting Kerry…

                Well here is a video from Jan 08 that may help you out:

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_knNfFhJYls&feature=related

                He has flip flopped all over this single issue. Also, he has voted to fund the war every chance he gets. For making himself to be so anti-war, those are telling votes.

              • Zee

                Obama gave an interview with the Chicago Tribune stating he was VERY close to Gee Dumbya on the war and that he DIDN’T KNOW how he would’ve voted had he been in the Senate when the first vote was taken.

                But we do know how he would’ve voted because the minute he got in the Senate he voted again and again to fund Bush’s war. The one time he said the surge wouldn’t work he now disagrees with and scrubbed his own site of that quote and now pretends he always thought the surge would work.

                If you’re not going to do your own research, why do you ask us?

                And now that you know what a fraud Obama is, what do you have to say, Skiron? You are such a dupe you probably don’t know that Obama’s big “antiwar” speech was a FAKE, complete with dubbed in crowd reaction.

                But now that you know, what do you think?

                • Skiron

                  Fake antiwar speech, right…just like clockwork with the unsubstantiated conspiracy theories…how surprising.

                  • roseeriter

                    Truth hurts Obama and his Bots.

                    Keep drinking the koolaid- Oh and you must be one of the bots that forgot to take the “NO DRAMA” pledge? Have you signed the loyalty oath???

          • Katmoon

            Yeah, so was I and he wasn’t in office, so does that mean I can be president too? I gave a speech as well!

      • http://! Clinton Fan

        Heh, heh!!!!

        But…..but…. hope…DOH!!! See, he will change DOH!!!

        Waaah…I can use BELIEVE, can’t I? Oh, and YES WE CAN!!

      • Francis

        I could care less whether you vote for Obama or not.

        But why do you condone hatred on this website??? But but HUffpost..Daily Kos…Duh Duh Duh…yes I know there are idiots on those sites too.

        The difference is when I see hateful stuff on there, I speak up and so do a lot of people. On NQ, if you dare question the premise of an topic (see Larry Sinclair, whitey tape; fake bc) you are shouted down.

        • http://firefox AnnieCarmel

          Don’t be silly Francis. Anyone trying to speak moderately on Huff & Puff either gets shouted down or censored. They are one of the least democratic sites in history. Arianna Huffington is as big a fraud as Obama.

        • http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

          Hey Francis, you see Bambi on CSPAN today heading up the Banking Committee?

        • http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

          Hey Francis, you see Bambi on CSPAN today heading up the Banking Committee?

      • Kelvin

        He defeated Hillary. Any more?

        • Ferdberfle

          That “defeat” was a rigged process and you’re no democrat, goob.

    • hilldemgoneindie

      gee fraaaaancis…

      if you don’t like it here then why don’t you get the hell out? we don’t like you anyway, TROLL. we don’t like obama and we don’t like people who like obama. this is our site – not yours.

      hillary ’08
      puma

      • Francis

        I thought this was a public site.

        You are all entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

        When I see smears about Obama or Hillary or anyone else on here, I feel obligated to correct it, or at least ask for proof.

        Case in point…the “fake bc” and Techdude. Obama’s birth certificate is fake, she said. Fine. Prove it, I said.

        Tick Tick Tick…BOOM!!! The ‘theory’ blows up in Texas Darlin’s face.

        Now the newest farce is he was adopted in Indonesia and never changed his name back to Obama. Can you prove it, measks?

        Tick Tick Tick…

        • Ferdberfle

          Here’s Francis back when he was more popular:

          http://www.americanhumane.org/images/content/pagebuilder/346817.jpg

        • Ferdberfle

          Whether or not the BC is real, a fake, or something else, there are enough serious questions surrounding the Senator from Illinois, that I cannot in good conscience vote for him. First and foremost is his lack of any real experience for the position. The second is his lack of candor when questioned about anything HE considers to be off limits (sounds an awful lot like Chimpy McFlightsuit). The third is his arrogance with regard to HRC supporters. I can name many more but won’t.

          Yes this is a free site, but that does not mean that your opinions will be valued. That’s for others to decide for themselves.

        • MIDem

          Obama is the one that has to prove it.

        • http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

          Francis, we are all too busy waiting for Obama’s proof of being a product of Selma and the Kennedy airlift, while awaiting to see how his nuclear legislation is working and his new reforms on the Banking commitee he heads, so we are all a tad busy at the moment to deal with things that will be proven shortly by the GOP

        • Dr. Kate

          nothing blew up, Franc-ass. In fact there is even more proof.

          so, tick tick tick right back at you.

          he is a liar and ineligible. you are just like barry obama-soetoro–the guy who lied on his Il supreme court atty registration.

          surrender and step down, barky. the jug is up.

          • Dr. Kate

            the jig, of course, but the jug of koolaid is up too.

    • Ani

      I want to let you know that as far as “Joe” is concerned, as soon as we saw the comment, it was removed and he was banned from this site.

      I personally do not approve of name calling either. None of us at NoQ want to do that.

      There are too many effective arguments to make without the need for any of that.

      • Francis

        Thank you. I can respect that.

        • Hope Floats

          Fuck you, Francis.

    • NObama in August

      Interesting that you don’t attack the Obama trolls for their extremely bad behavior and their intentions to cause trouble here.

      • Ferdberfle

        They do not speak ill of fellow travelers.

    • workingclass artist

      HEEHAW…francis….Now back to your stall in GAZA….

    • Rob in Chicago

      So Obama was not flipping off Hilary, he was just scratching flea bites?

      • Francis

        Correct.

        • Ferdberfle

          So he did this at least twice at the same point in his speech? That dog won’t hunt at all.

    • cleffnote

      Then I have some ointment for you, your skin must be crawling.

    • Hope

      Lighten up, Francis,
      Obama is not right for this country..get over it.

    • leisa

      Right back at you “Francis”…

      Some of the trolls here have been allowed to disseminate some of the most hateful stuff I’ve ever seen the past couple of months.

      Your “flees” may flee now!

      • Francis

        Some of the trolls here have been allowed to disseminate some of the most hateful stuff I’ve ever seen the past couple of months.

        Example?

        • Ferdberfle

          By asking that question, you presume we are lying. That’s why you get short shrift here.

    • Zee

      When you lie down with dogs, you mean.

      Francis, you are full of shit. When Michelle Obama is called certain names, people do speak up. When people here cite really odious rightwing sources, they are outed.

      Why don’t you try being part of the solution if you care so much.

      There are a lot of rightwing trolls here making laughable arguments that all Dems are done for. How are they any different from the Obama trolls who make repeated foul comments or who constantly repeat debunked crap?

      It’s tiresome keeping up with all of them, you included. Sorry, nice try, but you can’t tar all of us simply because there are rightwingers here alongside the Dems, the Obamatrolls, and all sorts of people.

      If you have some INFO please post LINKS or at least point us in the direction of the background info. The actual information, not the innuendo.

  • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

    Michelle’s BROTHER!? Why is he going to be doing ANYTHING at all? Why is MICHELLE for that matter? I can’t get that off of my mind. Why in the world is she being allowed to say anything? I thought she didn’t want to get involved in politics. Let’s hope she doesn’t call him her baby daddy again and then get upset when reporters call her Barack’s baby mama. These idiots are getting on my last nerve. All of this regalia won’t matter anyway because as the world spins further into turmoil (Russia/Georgia), there isn’t a snowcone’s chance in hell of Obmaa winning the general election.

    • http://www.greensunshine.net jadwiga

      It is more and more becoming a family business. I wonder if cousin Odinga will make a speech on the Convention.

      • lusitania

        lol…that’s a good one!

    • Jpatelis

      Wouldn’t it be great if all the Hillary supporters turned there back on Michelle as she delivers her speech. Just a small silent protest to let her know we’re not listening to her.

  • NObama in August

    I feel whatever spot Hillary is speaking in will become the prime spot so to speak. They can’t keep her down.

    • llilytoo

      There is an old saying

      ” Wherever the Mcgregor sits, that is the head of the table ” Mcgregor being the big deal in that case. But the point is the same. They cannot diminish Hill hard as they try

      • Zee

        Great points!

  • UniversityofIowaJR

    I can’t believe that prick. I am so sick of his flipping and flopping, he can’t even make a choice about who to have at the convention as keynote speaker, how can we expect him to make a decent vp choice? And when he decides about the keynote speaker, he pisses Hillary’s people off even more as if that is even possible! Ugh. I hope Hillary makes an exceptional speech that overshadows everything at this stupid convention. I was offered a position by McCain’s people to chair his Hispanic council here, but I am lukewarm to getting involved in anyone but Hillary’s campaign. I got an email from Maggie William’s assistant today too, Senator Clinton wanted my home address…

    Ugh, I hate obama so much….

    • Andy

      What do they want your address for? To give it to the Obama people???

    • American Woman

      His indecision about keynote speakers and the all his plans forthe convention are confusing, No one knows what is really going to happen..and that is what kind of a President we could have..not knowing if what he says is the truth or what his intentions are…You cannot believe anything that comes out of that camp because it could change within hours…no position is solid and no principal is sacred..He just cannot be trusted…

    • http://! Clinton Fan

      Watch him pick SEBELIUS.

      And watch everyone say “Who the fuck is she?”

      I honestly have no idea who he will choose, but every single person that has been floated thus far pretty much sucks, and doesn’t “complement” him in any meaningful way–and he needs a LOT of that.

      You can figure that he’ll pick someone from a state he REALLY wants to win. He’d be better off just picking a well known southern cracker with executive experience–the Democratic candidate tends to win when there’s someone with a drawl on the ticket (JFK and Johnson, Jimmy Carter, Clinton-Gore). When they (I’m trying to get used to that THEY thing, it used to be WE) go all heartland or either coast in picking candidates, they fuck themselves.

      • SC

        Maybe he should choose Zell Miller as his running mate. Then he challenge everyone who dares disagree with the Messiah to a duel! Oh wait, I forgot, Zell’s a Republican. But that doesn’t matter, since Obama is very gifted in reaching across the aisle.

    • Disgusted

      Yeah I don’t think I would give it to them. How do you know it’s real?

  • tillthen

    If Hillary is VP candidate, and he does not step down before Nov 4, sorry, its McCain for me.

    The only way the Dems have a chance is with her at the top.

    • csuzeq

      That shows just how bad BO is when I won’t even vote for him if Hil’s on the ticket. It would be political suicide for her and I can’t watch her do it!

  • tillthen

    Sugar, thank you, I never, never go to BHO sites so why do they come here? Because they are thugs, brown shits.

  • HARP

    Obama’s Hillbilly Half-Brother Threatening To Derail Campaign

    http://www.theonion.com/content/news/obamas_hillbilly_half_brother?utm_source=onion_rss_daily

    • Kevin

      tff

      thanks harp

      the onion’s always good for a laugh

    • leisa

      That was too much fun! Thanks HARP!

    • http://! Clinton Fan

      “Cooter” Obama!

      Bwahahahahaha!

      All he needs is his own “beverage,” like Billy Carter and his Billy Beer!

      • roseeriter

        duh…KOOLAID– he has the koolaid.

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    repost from last thread as it applies here :0)

    Comment by Mel | 2008-08-13 10:13:41

    If there is a floor vote for the nomination, Hillary cannot speak at all except for the nomination. So the point of her being a keynote speaker is a mute point right now, because the DNC rules do not permit a candidate for nomination to speak anytime prior to the nomination speeches before the floor vote.
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    Thank you God and I don’t mean Obama!

    • roseeriter

      I saw the videos and they were very good!

    • ritamary

      These videos are excellent.

  • http://none Jessie Britton

    I tend to think that it is one of two things. Either Hillary is the VP pick or her name is going into nominations. Anything else is sheer madness. They have been in negotiations on the agenda and everything coming out of Denver was someting to the effect that Tuesday was all Hillary Clinton and Wednesday night was the “big dawg”. To change it now, if Hillary is not the VP pick, would further anger the Hillary supporters beyond repair. I can not even quess which of the two it might be, but hope it is her name going into nomination!

    • Firefly

      If Hillary’s name is in nomination (as it must be), then it can only mean one thing: bambi has now replaced enough of her delegates with his that it’s impossible for her to get the nom.

      barky and the “new” DNC do not deal in anything except foregone conclusions – which, of course, they have carefully, stealthily arranged.

      A fascist dog and pony show to put forth the PERCEPTION of democracy.

      • fif

        I agree with you Firefly. Even if Hillary’s name is “allowed” to be put in nomination, it will all just be theater. They have engineered this election for months, they are not going to permit a genuine floor vote. We have watched their corrupt tactics, and they are certainly not going to suddenly wake up now. The whole bunch has got to go (Dean, Pelos, Brazile, BO, etc.) I wouldn’t trust anything they do at this point.

        As far as HRC not speaking. I’m not at all surprised. BO can’t stand being upstaged. And God forbid he chooses her as VP. I haven’t seen any wisdom or humility in his choices thus far, so I don’t expect him to realize he needs her. I hope not. I want to see him sink like a stone.

        I saw my first NOBAMA bumper sticker today. I beeped and we waived and cheered together. Felt good.

      • Zee

        And one was shot just today.

  • Larse12

    Great video about Hillary from Puma!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4Uuk840UdU

  • roseeriter

    If there was any doubt about Obamination being a cult and drinking the koolaid Check This Diary Out: I think it’s hysterically unbelievable. I’ve include snippets that caught my eye:

    • roseeriter

      http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/13/10249/7070/267/567229
      No Drama.

      As you have probably heard by now numerous times, the “no drama” edict is the one handed down from the top of the Obama campaign that permeates every facet of that organization. Every person hired to the Obama campaign gets the “no drama” speech when they are hired. We don’t do drama here. Sorry. Tight ship and all that.

      Well, from what I can see, the drama doesn’t help. And I’m taking the Obama no drama pledge from here on out.

      So, I’m adopting the Obama no drama policy. We will forge ahead with a clear vision and purpose in this campaign, and turn out every vote we can. At that point, we will win.

      If we do that, the only drama we will get to enjoy is the Obama victory speech come November 4th. And THAT drama couldn’t get a better script from Hollywood.

  • http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

    AP News flash

    McCain caught stealing some patented Obama speech sayings. Today Senator McCain was caught not once but several times during a town hall meeting usings patented Obama sayings that has raised some eyebrows of McCain attempting to follow Obama’s magical formula for speeches. McCain’s use on more than one occassion, 3 occassions were counted, of McCain using err, umm and ahh when responding to questions was a direct attempt to be more Obama like, even though McCain barely used these terms, limiting it to only a couple of times, unlike Obama’s patented 20+ times in a single sentence, is still considered by Obamabots as McCain attempting to copy Obama.

    • Firefly

      LOL!

  • Doris T.

    If the DNC had done to Obama what they have done to HRC, he’d be up all in their faces. They better keep praying that he will actually be able to pull in substantial funds over the next few years. And, if elected, that he comes through with all his promises of key positions.

    Our Country does not need radical changes which I believe is what Obama is all about.

    HRC is towing the line as she has been told to do. But what exactly does that give her in the end?! The DNC is made up of women and men, but even the women are showing how vile and jealous they can be by giving the second class treatment to HRC.

    What are these putzes thinking? Are they that secure that they will be re-elected after what they have pulled on the American people.

    I would tell Senator Hillary Clinton to immediately let it be known that she is placing her name for roll call and let the chips fall where they may.

    Sure they might call her a witch (well, you know), but thats the best part of it. She could smile and say, “Yes I Am.” Then she could make a slow and graceful exit and let them all have anxiety attacks. I love it when anyone calls her a witch. I say to myself…..”yes! Go Hillary!!!”

    Obama wouldn’t have allowed it, and out would come the race card. He would’ve said, “party unity my a$$,” see you in court.

  • tillthen

    I am not at all sagacious when it comes to politics, and with only average knowledge, but when Howard Dean was announced years ago as head of the DNC, I thought to myself “wtf are they thinking”. My intuition has proven itself…this guy is indeed nuts. But he is not alone. It seems everyone at the top has a screw loose, including Pelosi and Reid. When this is over, the DNC should give itself a complete Saniflush.

    • Lucinda

      I thought the same thing about Dean.

      • workingclass artist

        Ehemmmm…..howl….Dean is a shortman with delusions of granduer…lol
        Like the majority of fascist dictators he seeks to deal with vertical insecurity through bullying….no ?

      • TeaMug
    • fif

      I think your comments are quite astute tillthen, and funny…

  • JML

    I fear that Hillary’s name will not be put into nomination, and I hope I’m right in suspecting that she will not be the VP nominee, either.

    If both are true, then she’s lost the keynote spot merely as punishment, to diminish her.

    You know, Obama’s “got 99 problems and a bitch trying to steal his thunder ain’t one.”

  • http://commonsensegram.wordpress.com ProudMilitaryMom

    And Tuesday night’s theme is “Renewing America’s Promise” Same theme as the platform.
    Just gag me now!

    • workingclass artist

      Eye rolling….muttering under my breath….OH BROTHER !

    • Firefly

      Yep. barky was PROMISED the presidency. The big-money power brokers, big business, big oil, the big insurance companies, wall street, the entire corporate conglomerate affectionately known as the media, and congress – they all have PROMISED it to him.

      Now, how to deal with those pesky, bitter PEOPLE who refuse to come around, who keep screaming about “democracy” – what the hell is that?

      Not to worry – Diebold and ACORN have it all taken care of. WE NEVER RENEGE ON OUR PROMISES!

  • no quarter is RNC astroturf

    She didn’t *lose* the keynote speaker slot. She never had it. It was speculation by the media. No Quarter has become such a blatant GOP pot stirrer

    • workingclass artist

      Oh STFU NQRNC Troll….and Jesus is just another black ghetto freedom fighter!
      Save it for GAZA…..Tell the overseers to send more entertaining trolls…sheeesh!

    • Lucinda

      Who said that she lost the keynote speaker spot? That’s not how I read the post. I read the post to mean that the keynote speaker had been moved to the same night as Hillary, thus upstaging her.

    • AX10

      “National Security Advisor Michael Moore”, is that you?

    • Ferdberfle

      With the votes she won in this election cycle she should have been. But you bots aren’t Democrats; you’re automatons bent on destroying the party of Jefferson and FDR. I hope you enjoy your campaign because that is all you will get. In November, I will enjoy hearing your banshee-like whine as Oblahblah, the Anointed, loses.

      HRC or McCain ’08.

  • Andy

    Next week they’ll announce cousin Odinga will introduce Obama on Thursday…

  • June125

    Well, now that the screw job against Senator Clinton is overt and out in the open, perhaps it is time for the good Senator to take off her gloves and tell it like it is. No more towing the party line. If Obama and the DNC do not have the decency to treat Senator Clinton with respect, why should she turn around and treat them with respect? I know she may imperil her career in politics with what may be perceived as injudicious statements. But sometimes you have just got to cut through the BS, lay it on the line, and tell the truth. Whatever she decides is cool by me. But right now, my only treadbare connections to the Democratic Party is to the Clintons. Everyone else can frankly go to hell.

  • llilytoo

    After all this time I still cannot figure out if Barry and the Dems actully want to win or are simply setting up the table for McCain ?? Barry is unelectable and really has never won a fair election in his life ….what will BO do after the convention? Demand McCain drop out? None of his shit will work then

  • wodiej

    All I can say is you reap what you sow. People can make excuses for Obama, they can try to argue his case, intimidate caucuses and even buy votes. But in the end you still have to answer to God and you can’t buy his approval. I don’t care how you twist and turn in the wind, you will always get the same results. Do wrong, you get wrong back. Do right, you get right back. You can count on it.

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    3 shots fired at Arkansas DEM Party
    they say leader shot

    on faux now

  • Sandi78

    I’ve just read that Sen. Bob Casey, who is anti-abortion, will also be speaking on Tuesday night.

    Isn’t that the night that is the anniversary of a woman’s right to vote? Isn’t that why Hillary is speaking that night? And haven’t the Obamatrons been threatening us with the extinction of Roe v. Wade if we don’t vote for The One? So why is this guy speaking that night/at all? Exactly who are they trying to unify/fool?

  • Katmoon

    Pinche culero

  • steel magnolia

    Claire is Obama’s Harriet Meirs. “Oh, Mr. President, you’re the smartest, most handsome, kindest, bravest, nicest big stud I’ve EVER known!” said in her Betty Boop voice. “I’m just honored to be in your presence!” batting her vacant eyes.

    Yesterday I got a letter from Obambam asking for money. I wrote “Return to Sender” on the front of the envelope and “No Obama supporters here! P.U.M.A!” on the back and put it back in the mailbox. I hope it gets sent back.

  • Papoose

    I wish Hillary would just bag the whole thing and meet us on a corner to walk to the venue and bang on the door.

    SOS America. A Country in distress and under duress.

    Unfortunately, this is not a joke.

  • kinthenorthwest

    Ok Michelle Obama as a speaker was really stretching it, but her brother Give Us a Break.

    Why do I have a feeling that his has gone beyond just Obama’s cornation to Obama and Michelles family cornation.

    McCain ’08

    • beebop

      It’s because there is no one in his family that he wants the American public to see? hmmmmm?

      The perfect Oscar Wilde for 0bama:

      “A witty saying proves nothing, though it can make you really, really famous.”

  • Katmoon

    Not going to watch any of the crap, and planning on boycotting the sponsors.

  • democracyfirst

    It’s time Hillary woke and up smelled the rat coffee. I’ve been nagging about creating a viable third party ever since the primary debacle and I think a lot of others are starting to see why.

    Hillary has always been a true Democrat for a long time. She now belongs to a party which is no longer the true Democratic Party. It is time for her to lead a new party that is truly democratic.

    After all, what’s in a name? It’s the substance that counts.

  • Cathy6224

    Comment by Tumby J | 2008-08-13 12:26:45

    I’m sorry, but it’s comments like that which undermine the entire argument that sexism derailed the HRC campaign.
    You can’t just cry “sexism!” every time something less than ideal happens to HRC. There’s a heck of a lot more to her than her gender.———————

    Why not? Obama and his groupies um supporters cry racists every time anyone doesn’t agree with him.

  • ritamary

    Who here is saying that sexism is what derailed the Clinton campaign? We are saying sexism was one factor along with corruption within the Democratic Party and racism.

  • KarenG

    One possible VP candiate is not listed any where on the speakers list so far. The Kansas governor who has worked very tirelessly for Obama….Kathleen Sebelius.

    • Andy

      Let him choose Sebelius: it’ll be great to see her sink along with him….

      • beebop

        0bama’s only problem with picking a female running mate:

        “Being bitchy and unstable is all part of my mystique.” Yep. Oscar Wilde.

    • Danny

      Kathleen Sebelius? Has nothing to offer.

      This woman who worked hard against Hillary and for Obama cannot win support from Hillary’s supporters there are 18,000,000 of us who most likely will not sign on to Obamas fantasy and Sebelius does not help him with people in the know.

      If your not in the know. You would think that Sebelius was chosen only because she is a woman too. DO they really think that Kansas has that many electoral votes? Desperation!

  • AF catfish

    What has Michelle or her brother done for the party?

    • Annie Oakley

      Michelle did start the “raise the bar higher” meme. Maybe she could get the audience to do a call and response on that one again.

    • Ferdberfle

      Let’s see… they have two votes?

    • Papoose

      Ruined it

  • typical.white.person
  • Kelvin

    The funny thing is, that the majority of Obama supporters don’t hate Hillary at all. We don’t have undying love for her, but we don’t hate her. We don’t insult her family. We don’t question her patriotism. We don’t make up crap to make them look bad. We acknowledge that she lost and we’ve moved on. We just wish PUMA would do the same. I don’t hate Hillary personally. I love Bill and Chelsea. I see that they were trying to win a campaign and harbor no ill feelings towards them for that. Why all the hate for Obama and his family? I just don’t get it.

    • A. Nony Mouse

      Once you’ve mentioned hate, I’m afraid you’ve already gotten to the root of the matter. Projection of everything hate engenders in oneself onto those who don’t share it and are critical of it explains almost everything else.

    • interested party

      a majority is 51%

      then by your own reasoning the other 49% hate Clinton.

    • Ferdberfle

      For the last time, troll, we don’t hate Oblahblah; we think he is monumentally unqualified to be president. There are a great many democrats who are and one of them should have been chosen instead of that cardboard cut-out–I would have even voted for someone like Biden.

      Get that through your thick skull and stop spinning our judgment on his ability into alleged hatred and racism or some other such hogwash.

      • http://undercoverblackman.blogspot.com Undercover Black Man

        No hatred? Then why is he constantly called names such as “Obastard” and “obasshole”?

        That’s not only hateful, it’s infantile.

    • Danny

      YOU must have just come on the scene if you believe that.

      Obama and his thugs invented hate on Hillary during the Caucus and Primarys. Of course you want us to roll over, be passive and vote for your Pitbull/Rott. That will never happen Obama destroyed the chance of that ever happening. He is on one huge ego trip and will fall flat on his face! SPLAT goes the crap from Chicago!

      • NObama in August

        I’ve noticed the new trend of Obama supporters coming here and pretending innocence of their hateful behavior.

        • Hope Floats

          LMAO. It cracks me up. I can just hear the sucking sounds, but they still can’t pull off genuine contrition. “You guys did it. We just want unity.”

          • Ferdberfle

            Yeah, they ask for unity in the same breath as they say, “get over it” and “you’re just bitter”, and other such cattle flop.

        • stodghie

          yup change in talking points again. yawn!

    • cdo

      The funny thing is, that the majority of Obama supporters don’t hate Hillary at all. We don’t have undying love for her, but we don’t hate her. We don’t insult her family. We don’t question her patriotism. We don’t make up crap to make them look bad.

      are you under the impression that everyone here has amnesia?
      or possibly it was you who received a severe blow to the head.
      for proof of the most vile discourse ever directed at a politician by members of their own party, please re-read practically every post and response on Dailykos, Americablog, and TPM since the beginning of 2008.

      Then I advise you see a doctor over your memory loss.
      My recall abilities are in perfect order, thanks.

      • notodisenfranchisement

        oh my gosh that is funny! exactly – do they expect us to have amnesia?!!!

        who are the obots kidding?

  • suthrn

    wonder if chicago politics have anything to do with the shooting in arkansas….hillary had a couple of her headquarters burn up and now this..is getting really serious when someone’s life is in danger…

    • Firefly

      So sorry to report that Mr. Gwatney has passed away.

  • JML

    Waiting for NARAL’s statement on this any time now.

    *snicker*

  • loyal9

    maybe she’s going to speak wed. when bill introduces her as the v.p. candidate.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkOADdNSr-o Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

      nah. They want a VP candidate who is less experienced than Obama and less competant.

  • Texas Darlin

    I heard Hillary is a lesbian. Word?

    • typical.white.person

      Nice rumor. Show me proof.

      You can tell me Bill Clinton is a black man ten thousand times, but unless you can prove to me Bill Clinton is black, then STFU.

      • Hope Floats

        Obama said he wanted to see Bill dance before he’d believe it. That’s not TD, either.

        • Papoose

          TexasDarlin doesn’t have a space her screen name.

          And to the imposter, so what if she is?

          Word: chickenshit

    • beebop

      “To wank oneself off is the beginning of a life-long case of Carpal Tunnel Syndrome.”

      Oscar Wilde had you in mind when he said this, didn’t he sweetie? :)

      • doctorwang

        Ridicule is the tribute paid to the genius by the mediocrities.

        Oscar Wilde

        • Ferdberfle

          So you’re the mediocrity here, huh?

    • Dr. Kate

      this is a fake Texas Darlin, everyone! report to administrator!

  • Anon 1

    Barack Obama has abortion problem. He voted against the born alive act. Hillary was aghast that he was so radical left on that issue. Hence Bob Casey who is pro life is there to give Obama support. But once America learns of Obama radical votes on abortion, he is going to have serious problems.

    And Yes I am pro choice. But Obama cross the line with infants born alive to parents who wnated them aborted. WHy let them die on the table?

  • Obama/Clinton 2008

    Well since Colin Powell will be at the convention endorsing Obama- they had to make space for him.

  • cackicoo

    i wish hillary would get up there to speak….and tell tehm to kiss her ass………

    what a bunch of pigs

    i am puma

  • Danny

    McCaskill I have to tell you watching her on the networks wonk for Obama had a direct hand in my making up my mind to never vote for B. (BHO) S. Shoot I didn’t vote for one democrat that supported Barry in my states primary. I hope other Democrats are doing the same thing. Punish the party and save the country. At least Democrats aren’t willing to put up with lying cheating and stealing like the Republicans are. And John McCain just isn’t a bad guy in my book. So it will be easy to vote for him so that Obama loses!!!

    • Ferdberfle

      You said it.

  • Katmoon

    Seriously, the Clintons need to tell the DNC to f-off.HAving trouble typing today, I’m so furious.

  • kinthenorthwest

    Michelle’s brother is a coach at some college in Oregon.

  • Bridgette

    Well, we can see where his priorities lie…

  • Ferdberfle

    To blazes with the Democratic Oblahblah party. HRC should resign from the party formerly know as the Democratic party and run as an independent or as a running mate to McCain. If the Oblahblah party wants to treat her that way, then she should return the favor.

    Oblahblah is wrong in so many ways but most wrong for POTUS.

  • Firefly

    Who else, besides me, has the fantasy that Bill will get up there on the stage at the convention and tell the complete, unvarnished TRUTH?

    Of course, he’ll need a good pair of wire cutters to get himself out of that cage they’ll shove him into – ’cause we know how much they “respect” former two-term presidents (except for Reagan, of course).

    We should take bets on how long it’d take the DNC fascists to cut off Bubba’s mike and bring out the hook if he revealed even one syllable of the real story of what’s gone on. Can you imagine how apoplectic they’d be? MUST SHUT HIM UP!

  • yttik

    Fox news is reporting that Colin Powell will also be endorsing Obama and speaking at the DNC.

    • Ferdberfle

      First Colin was duped by Bush and Cheney but could be forgiven as he was being a good soldier and loyal Republican. But now he’s being duped by Oblahblah and there simply is no excuse for that. Amazing.

      • workingclass artist

        Hmmm…Powell was called Cracker Georgies Uncle Tom Stooge for selling the Phony War on TeeVee in front of God and everybody….chuckle….Aaaaand now he is gonna stump for the World Citizen And winner of most confused Oreo Obama…..This is TOO FUNNY….JUST HOW STUPID DO THESE DEMOCRATIC LEADERS THINK THE AMERICAN ELECTORATE IS…..How Stupid do they think AA’s are….Talk about the fallacy of RACISM…..If Powell endorses Obama then any doubtful AA’s will support Obama…..Kinda like If smart guys endorse GWB he’s gotta be smart Wriiight?
        It is an insult to every intelligent and thoughtful voter in this country and a shallow and obvious ploy…..sheeesh!

  • Toni

    FEC Investigation of Obama Eligibility

    http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Federal-Elections-Commssion/index.html

    We need more signatures.all most there.Just go at the end where it ask if you like to donate and if you can’t just go to the bottom of the page and hit go back to petition.And hit ok- againok then hit the back bar till you are at the petition again.go to signutures at the top and click.Look to see if you got yours on there.You can remain Anonymous

    We are almost there.We need to get Obama’s true birth certificate and invesagation for it and other stuff to they are working on now

    • sowsear

      Did you see #585 who threatens to “out” all signers and put their personal and credit info online? Can you trace him? He’s another one saying, “We are taking names”.

      • workingclass artist

        LOL….I signed the petitions…..they can put up my bad credit….Expose me as a pissed off democrat….I feel pretty safe residing in the mildly fascist state of Texas…..Obama and his little Fascist Goon Squads are imploding as we speak…..Aaaand Soros will hopefully be shamed out of this country….lol

  • fred

    Good News PUMA’S We are standing our ground

    Presidential Race a Tossup as Obama Lead Slips, Pew Poll Says

    Obama has made “no significant headway” among Hillary Clinton’s former supporters, with 72 percent of them saying they now back Obama. That’s unchanged from last month and 3 percentage points higher than in June, Pew said.
    http://countusout.wordpress.com/

  • Welshwoman

    I don’t think they thought this through. Tuesday night is the 88th anniversary of woman’s right to vote. They have a Man given the prime time speech and a speaker who supports anti-abortion.

    Very Bad planning and really bad idea.

    • Ferdberfle

      History and historical perspective are not their strong suits.

  • http://firefox AnnieCarmel

    Wm. Kristol (ICK) on Fox saying that Powell will speak on Wednesday night…is that to take attention from Big Dog? Oh, yeah both Clintons will be speaking and surrounded by minor players and one big Republican surprise.

    Powell has just destroyed his credibility again…after being used by Dubya. Sad.

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    FOX News just announced that Colin Powell may endorse Obambi at the convention.

    Powell lost any credibility along with his soul when he tried to sell the UN on Mobile WMD Labs in Iraq.

    How do Powell and Obama reconcile Powell’s “Pottery Barn Doctrine” of “you break it you own it” with Obama’s timetable to leave Iraq?

    Any endorsement from Powell is likely to be radioactive.

  • Dr No

    I don’t know what Obama and his people think they are doing her. This isn’t going to make Hillary or her people happy. This is a major mistake.

    • Ferdberfle

      Arrogant people such as Oblahblah and his army of bots do not make mistakes in their minds. Rather, they believe that any opposition to them is the mistake. They are deluded beyond reason, as with the members of any cult.

  • The Real Hope

    Obama needs to lose his PRIME SLIT!

  • Kelvin

    Colin Powell. It just gets better and better.

    • Ferdberfle

      Only for cultists like you. This is the same man you yourself probably criticized after his speech at the UN in support of the invasion of Iraq. But now that he may endorse your empty idol, he is fine good man who can do no wrong. You are as transparent as your empty-suit hero.

    • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

      Colin Powell is not going to help either candidate, and an endorsement could hurt either candidate.

      Powell is not going to bring Obambi more AA’s. they are already in lockstep behind Obambi.

      Powell will not solidify the Dem base, he is reviled by many there for his blind loyalty to Dubya, and the false claim of mobile WMD labs in Iraq.

      Powell is not going to bring Obambi Hillary supporters, Only Hillary can do that. And most Hillary supporters will not get behind an Obambi/Clinton ticket unless the ticket has no Obambi.

      Powell would not bring Dems to McCain – see blind loyalty to Dubya.

      Powell’s “Pottery Barn Doctrine” for Iraq – “You break it, you own it” – matches McCain’s Iraq policy much more closely than Obambi’s “Cut and Run” policy.

      Powell might, maybe, possibly could steal AA’s from Obambi for McCain, but only as McCain’s running mate. But the risk is very strong. – See blind loyalty to Dubya.

      Even with a public “Act of Contrition” at the convention, Powell will turn off may more Dems and independents than he will bring to Obambi. And such a drastic flop in loyalty and character by Powell will reinforce Obambi’s nebulous backflipping personna.

      • Ani

        Powell forever disgraced himself and his record by selling the pack of lies in the run-up to the Iraq war — how does anyone think his endorsement woud help Sen. Obama?

    • beebop

      He just said, “no, no, no.” Is that better?

  • Papoose

    Dreams Of His Father

    gregransom.com/prestopundit/2008/04/gregs-guide-to-bara…

  • http://IthinkIfeel... Tricia Spiegel

    I cannot believe that they are putting up an anti-choice speaker on Hillary’s night. That is just downright unsulting. What else can they do to this woman, AND don’t they understand that screwing her is screwing us as well?

    • hilldemgoneindie

      yes. they do understand and THAT’S the point.

  • Dave2009

    Powell spokeswoman Peggy Cifrino strongly denied the report.

    “There’s absolutely no truth to it whatsoever,” Cifrino told FOXNews.com. “Colin Powell will not be at either convention. There’s absolutely no truth to this.”

    Roll Call executive editor Mort Kondracke, also a FOX News contributor, said he personally has spoken with Powell, who denied the report and said he has made no endorsement decisions, according to Kondracke.

    http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/13/kristol-colin-powell-to-endorse-barack-obama/

    • beverly leslie

      I’m sure this is Barky’s campaign putting out the false report about Powell’s endorsement. Just a way to have barky’s name associated with Powell the the desperate attempt to get some republican votes. Pathetic. They did the same thing all through the primary season. Kept bringing up Al Gore and Gore said unequivocally he would not endorse anyone until after the primary. He held true to his word. Just another false rumor put out by the barf campaign.

    • MEchelle Hates America!

      Powell got U.S. into the Iraq war. Screw him and his lie selling to the U.N.

  • Mr. X

    Hahahahahaha. No keynote for HRC! Maybe Obama is gonna get a set and cut the Clintons loose — once and for all.

    • NObama in August

      And this election cycle will be writed down in history as showing once and for all the extreme sexism women face in this country.

      • NObama in August

        writed = written

    • AX10

      We WILL defeat the unqualified America-Hating Obama in November, and then we will go to Illinois in 2010 and defeat him again. Maybe Patrick Fitzgerald will take care of that for us.

    • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

      This is Obambi’s last chance to “Unify” the party. You can’t snub half of your own party and expect to be elected.

      The sad reality is, Obambi has no HOPE of unifying the party. He has damaged it beyond repair.

      Amazing that the candidate that claimed to be able to reach out to Republicans and Independents, unify the US and the world, cannot even unify his own party.

      Jokebama the ZERO Ø

    • The Real Hope

      Mr. X:

      Marks the spot where dogs like you pee!

    • beebop

      And watch the entire map go red. Great thinking … what we expect from Zerobama.

    • Ferdberfle

      Nothing like cutting off your nose to spite your face, huh?

  • http://lnab.newsvine.com/ Linda

    Bill and Hill should sit out the speaking on this convention unless it is to represent HRCs case for the nomination. A REAL NOMINATION SPEECH.. not the faux one Barry wants.

    • http://undercoverblackman.blogspot.com Undercover Black Man

      Oh, we could only hope they sit it out. Then our long national nightmare would be over.

  • http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

    Sorry to disappoint all the trolls, but nothing regarding the convention is set in stone until Hillary makes an announcement she is not seeking a floor vote.

    Although the Bamarama campaign is attempting to control the entire proceedings, Hillary holds the trump card on it.

    Even the VP nomination on the Weds is not etched in stone, because there is no VP nomination or election at the DNP convention before a Presidential nominee is confirmed and if Hillary demands a floor vote, then there is no Presidential nominee thus the usual automatic election of a VP nominee holds no water.

    From the reports of Hillary NOT having the Tuesday night keynote speaking slot speaks volumes that there is no agreement of Hillary allowing Bambi to walk into the nomination freely.

    The decission by Hillary is required to be made by 6PM Tuesday night of the convention, so won’t it be fun to watch Michelle tell America again how proud she is and bla bla bla and Hillary take the thunder the following night!

  • American Woman

    BHO and company are convinced they do not need Hillary or her supporters apparently so they will do whatever they can to diminish her accomplishments and all who support her…this is SAD for women espcially on a day of celebration for women…I hope the real men of this country stand beside women and tell the DNC..” NO DEAL “..and if I were her I I would go over my time slot and make them cut the microhones to get me off the stage..by time the convention comes I’m sure this too will have changed..remember we are talking about the Flip Flopping..Backtracking LIAR…I don’t think we will know what’s going to happen until the programs are printed..and even then I’m sure they will reseve the right to “CHANGE” thier minds…

  • navyvet48

    I had an argument with someone about Hillary’s speech. I said that Obama would make certain her speech was a tiny part of the convention and not a keynote speech. I see the DNC and Obama didn’t surprise me! Ugh! It is horrible that Hillary played the unity game since her campaign has been so belittled.

    Even worse is anti-gay Warner and Pro-life Casey. Casey is a shot in the foot….Obama will never get the religious right or Catholics because his beliefs don’t jive with Casey’s…..wtf! this will not happen. I just talked to my very Catholic friend….amazing to me with 8 kids she is slightly more liberal in her views on abortion, but not anti-abortion…..she doesn’t like late term abortions like me. Warner’s appearance should be a loud message to the gay community….the Democratic Party doesn’t want them anymore…..I hope the gay community wakes up soon!

    • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

      During the Repub Convention, when the world hears how McCain befriended Mother Teresa, aided her orphanage, and adopted one of the orphans, the Catholic vote will be a lock for McCain.

      And Obambi? All he did was renege on his commitment to support the orpahange and school in his ancestral Kenyan village.

      Obambi is what we call a Renigger.

      • Katmoon

        Touche

      • Ferdberfle

        Great use of language to make a serious point about his lack of promised action

      • Katmoon

        Johnny, and I am going to admit this, for a minute I was afraid to respond in any positive way to your post; then I thought wait a minute, I admire this post because of the thought(I perceive) was put into it, to make a point, and the point is well taken. A very worthwhile point, on words and how words have been used against people, and how words can also bring an irony right out into plain sight.Well done.

    • stodghie

      yup i have a neighbor who is gay. when he told me he was voting for obama, i had to bite my tongue.

  • Mr. X

    What’s a troll?

    • The Real Hope

      Mr. X:

      A troll is someone who is generally illiterate, unsightly and marks his territory like you do, except they don’t ask about their own identities; they leave identification up to the dog catchers on Obama’s payroll. I understand if you run home now, you too can get an Obama microchip so that Pelosi et al. will always be able to locate you in time for your next assignment in pissing on Hillary Clinton’s territory – aka NO QUARTER!

      You might be able to turn on a dime, but you can’t piss on a quarter!

    • HARP

      Trolls are motivated by a desire for attention by people and can’t or won’t acquire it in a productive manner.

      • Ferdberfle

        Indeed. For them, even negative attention is desirable. That would explain the presence of all the bots.

  • pew

    I think Clinton should go Independent,or go for VP on Mccain’s team….She should be thinking of the Country,over Party…imo….If she put a statement out, saying her objections,of what the Democratic Party is supposed to stand for,Maybe those 18 million voters would listen to her….

    This is getting really pathetic,imo,I hear Obama is even starting to fight the smears(obama calls it)of Jerome Corsi’s book which is number one in the stands,…Obama says its mostly smears.Jerome Corsi, stands behind everything he wrote….Also if there was a possibilty of false information being reported,,Obama could sue Jerome,,,I haven’t heard of any lawsuits for the book….The more people read the book,the better for America.imo

    Clinton has more Class,and should start her own party…She needs to save this Nation,from a Radical like Obama.imo….

    • HARP

      Damn straight.

  • JohnT

    BREAKING: COLIN POWELL TO ENDORSE OBAMA AT DNCl UPDATE: POWELL BACKPEDALS (HE’S GOOD AT THAT)

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/08/breaking-colin.html

    • http://lnab.newsvine.com/ Linda

      If Powell endorses the Precious…then I guess I’ll lose all respect for him and put his whole UN lying into a brand new light of what he’s willing to do…

      • pew

        Fox reported Powell will not speak at either convention,and he has not endorsed either candidate…Where the information came from is unknown,and Mr Powell has not said anything of the kind.

    • RepublicanChick

      First of all, Colin Powell didn’t backpedal as he didn’t make the statement today–Bill Kristol spread that rumor.

      He isn’t going to endorse Obama.

  • cdo

    Obama and the DNC are just digging their hole deeper.
    Not only will I not vote for Obama, I will not vote for down ticket democrats either.
    My vote apparently means nothing to them, so I guess they won’t miss it.
    My family feels the same.
    We live in Virginia.

  • Mr.Murder

    If she isn’t the keynote, she can remain on ballot at the convention?

    No problem with this whatsoever.

  • Tricia S

    Who is even going to watch anything but when Hillary speaks not me

  • Tricia S

    Hey is Obama was in the Olympics what country would he represent and what sport. I think the backstroke

    • pew

      If golf was a sport,he’d be the Ball!!!lol and hope someone hits many mulligans.

      go hillary

  • NoBO

    We live in VA, too, and will not vote for ANY Dems this year. I’ve had it with all of them.

    This convention is going to be a joke on the party and will help pave the way for a nice McCain win on 11/4.

    • stodghie

      i seriously doubt denver will make any money on this joke of a convention.

  • catherine

    I am heart broken over the death of the Arkansas Democratic Party Chair. My heart goes out to his family. I can only imagine what the suspect’s motive was in the shooting.

  • MS39047

    Is it Mark Warner that is anti gay? I think it is JOHN Warner.

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    another update from jeralyn

    LOKS LIKE VP IS NOT REPEAT NOT SHEBORESUS!!

    YAY YAY

    http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/8/13/172640/726

    …Now there’s this: the Tuesday lineup will also include Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius, Arizona Governor Janet Napolitano, Governors Ted Strickland of Ohio and Ed Rendell of Pennsylvania, Senator Bob Casey, Jr. of Pennsylvania and Governor Deval Patrick of Massachusetts, Governor Brian Schweitzer of Montana and Federico Peña, former Mayor of Denver and Secretary of both Energy and Transportation.

    That’s 10 speakers for Tuesday night. By contrast, Monday night, there are 5 speakers, 3 of whom are Michelle Obama, her brother and Barack Obama’s sister…….

  • Katmoon

    It is so sad, I know he was a Clinton Delegate, and there is confusion in the story, as there seems to be another incident a few minutes later, at a Baptist convention where that gunman says “I lost my Job”. The report I just read out of Arkansas said the shooter of
    Chairman Bill Gwatney, was asking about being a volunteer. It’s so terrible and so sad.

    Witnesses said the gunman entered the party offices shortly before noon and said he wanted to see Gwatney about volunteering. Party officials said the man forced his way into Gwatney’s office and fired three shots, then fled in a blue truck.

    Source:ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jZT13WqlQ9i-8LZpa2zR-f0t9YSwD92HLDS01

  • Lorey

    Hillary did not lose anything the envious pigs from the DNC took it away from her.

  • SJ

    Honestly I really don’t understand why the Clinton’s is accepting this crap from a nobody like Obama, am starting to think that if they are so dam stupid and want to hold on to the trappings of office and the Democrat party then they deserve everything that that those slime balls do to them.

    Its time for them to stand up and to say to hell with this crap, walk away from this it will only make Hillary politically stronger this second class begging role that she is playing and for what is making it look as if she feels she has no life without the coat tails of the DNC and that she needs Obama’s acceptance to get by.

    For god sake woman, stand up and tell all of them to take a hike geez how much more of this shit are you going to take and for what?

    • Ferdberfle

      Agreed. I’m really surprised Bill hasn’t blown a gasket.

      • sowsear

        That was ’07 when HRC was leading. I wouldn’t be surprised at anything BO does to prevent Hill from having her name put into nomination.
        First Tuesday night goes to an anti-choice and then a male keynoter. Great line-up on Women’s night! I suspect that Big Dawg is being demoted and/or being replaced entirely because Hill is not going along with his plan to swamp the convention with his glory.

        • sowsear

          This post showed up in the wrong place for some reason.

      • sowsear

        I’ll bet BD is having his moments in private. I’m sure there is a plan in this somewhere.
        If BO is the nomineee afterall, and someone other than Hill is the vp, I really hope that McCain pulls the political coup of all time with Hill as his vp. I know they could work together for 4 yrs.

  • Hmm

    Predictions Please-

    Its looking less and less like the press will do its job (surprise!)and more and more like Obama will get his crown.

    So lets hear predictions of what will happen next if Obama is crowned Miss America in Denver.

    I think after the convention-Obama’s lead will continue to steadily crumble as people just get sick of him and his increasingly stale message. Every hit song has a shelf life and Obama’s “Message of Hope” is starting to sound like elevator muzac.

    Despite this the media will continue to declare him the likely winner-but at some point between the convention and the election, after people just cant take another syrupy patronizing speech, there will come a psychological tipping point where people will realize, “Oh, my God, he’s going to lose”.

    At that point his support will really crumble and McCain will win the election, if not with a landslide, at least with a comfortable lead.

    Since all the leadership is implicated in pushing this goof on us-there will be no firings of incompetents, no mea culpa’s,and everyone at the DNC will agree that somehow it was Hillary’s fault that she did not manage to drag Obama over the finish line.

    • Ferdberfle

      I agree with your summary but would add that if this happens, the Democratic party is finished for the foreseeable future.

    • Jill L

      I predict he’ll trip over his tel-O’prompter during the swimsuit competition and split his skull, thereby requiring the need for a custom made ‘dual headed’ crown… perhaps from the ‘one size fits all’ dictator’s store.

      I

  • Danny

    I was called a Republican today by an Obamabot. Made me proud. He also said that I was just plain mean spirited for not voting for Obama and voting for McCain instead.

    This is how Obama thinks he can wrestle my vote from me. LAUGHABLE. THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS SCREWED BLUED AND TATOOTED.

  • http://democratswrite.com Bob

    Pumas we must stop Obama. He robbed Hillary of the nomination. We must stay united.

  • Papoose

    I am sick of it ~~ all the games ~~ all the beating around the bush…

    Somebody please tell me that Bill and Hillary are not a part of this charade.

    I am no fucking pawn – for anybody.

    Screw the surprises and the suspense. America is going down the drain today. WTF does the Unconvention have to do with anything?

    The Clinton’s need to take a stand now. Prisons awaitin our asses for speaking freely at a political event. Yea, right.

    I’ve fucking had it. Why is Obama untouchable and can get away with tons and tons of shit that would tie anyone else up in courts for the rest of their lives.

    This shit is reeking and we’re all being used to the nth degree.

    • james

      Maybe you should consider the possibility that he hasn’t actually done all of the things he’s been accused of. Taken together, doesn’t it all seem a least a little bit improbable?

      Just this past week we’ve learned that the conservative right has been subjecting Department of Justice job applicants to a political screening process for several years now. You can pretty much count on the fact that there’s no plot in the DoJ to cover up Obama’s indiscetions or illegal activities. Similarly, if the FOX network had any credible information about such wrong-doing on Obama’s part, they’d be running the story 24/7.

      • Ferdberfle

        If Fox has the information, they will sit on it until after the convention. As for the DOJ, being politicized by this administration means they will also use whatever they might want to use AFTER the convention.

        Too bad you’re going to be stuck with Obamboozle. It’s still no too late to nominate HRC, James or believe, or se, of freedumb fighter or whatever moniker you’re using on this shift.

    • PewL

      I think Bill Clinton should charge Obama $30,000 for his speech Wednesday Night and $40.000 for just having his name in the Democratic agenda.

  • james

    It’s rumored Colin Powell is going to give a speech at the Democratic National Convention, during which he will endorse the candidacy of Barack Obama.

  • katana

    Check out texas darlin. New breaking story.

    A picture tells a thousand words.

  • http://puma caligirl

    Colin Powell told ABC News that he will not be at the Democratic convention.

  • http://puma caligirl

    I think the “surprise” is Hillary is the VP choice. They know they can’t win without her.

    • http://www.progressive.org/mag_reed0508 Beowulf

      “They know they can’t win without her.”

      I totally concur. Though, I think it would be a mistake for Hillary to hitch her caboose on the train to Looserville.

  • http://www.progressive.org/mag_reed0508 Beowulf

    By having anti-gay Mark Warner and anti-abortion Bob Casey at his excellent convention, Obama is clearly, as Nader put it, “talking white” again, no doubt overcompensating for his 20+ years associating with Wright, Ayers, and so on.

  • jrterrier

    well he needed to add casey because he delivered pennsylvania for him, right? not. next he’ll also add that loser tom daschle.

    obama keeps it up and there will be riots in the street.

  • pew

    Cnn is talking about Jerome Corsi’s book right now, and how its causing headaches in Obama campaign.lol

    Jerome Corsi is also on Larry King Live tonite,and stands by the Book,and all its contents….

    They should have picked Hillary for the nominee..lol

    • http://www.progressive.org/mag_reed0508 Beowulf

      LOL, thanks for the heads up. Watchin’ it now.

      The anti-Kerry book is essentially full of crap. But with Obama, much (probably half) of the anti-Obama book will be true. After all, his two autobiographical memoirs are full of his grandiose self-glorifying BULLSHIT.

  • Toni

    That’s what they do in the countrys when Obama came from Kenya and other..They don’t care of the will of the people.I saw where a lady was talking saying that when they go to vote the one who wants to win stand right there telling her to vote for him and if she doesn’t she will pay-Even if you send your votes in she said they look at it and see who you voted for and if you didn’t vote for who they wanted they have your name and address and they will come for you.She said they have no will of the people there.It’s just what I see here.People are told to sit down and shut up-They are threatren-They sent their thugs out to try and get under your skin.Where did we ever see it his bad? When Obama came in that’s where he knows how other country works and he is doing it here.

  • OxyCon

    Michelle Obama’s brother, who during the primary was one of the misogynist perpetrators, has got himself a plum speaking slot at Obama’s coronation.
    Isn’t that something?
    Isn’t there something in the Dem platform speaking out against misogyny? Yes, there is. Then why in the hell are they allowing a misogynist speak at the coronation?
    Here is Michelle Obama’s brother’s sexist attack on Hillary:

    Of Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, Robinson (Michelle Obama’s brother) said, “the whole crying now before every primary? You’ve got to be kidding me. If I was a woman, I’d be embarrassed for her.”

    • Andy

      OxyCon:

      It is despicable and outrageous !!!

    • OxyCon

      Here…this is the passage I am talking about in the Democrat platform:

      “We believe that standing up for our country means standing up against sexism and all intolerance. Demeaning portrayals of women cheapen our debates, dampen the dreams of our daughters, and deny us the contributions of too many. Responsibility lies with us all.”

      How can the Dems allow the misogynist Craig Robinson to speak at Obama’s coronation when he is guilty of breaking one of their own platform stances?

      That’s why I ain’t a Dem anymore.

    • Ferdberfle

      I wonder where the Obamabot’s outrage is over that statement by Robinson. I guess all of Oblahblah’s relatives are above criticism, too. Wow, we get a ready-made royal family to go with the Emperor and his new clothes.

  • susan k. (NYC)

    I am with you guys about much of this but it is JOHN Warner from VA who voted against gay marriage, not Mark Warner, also from VA. Mark Warner is gay-friendly. We don’t want to inadvertently slander anyone on this site! Thnx.

    • ME

      susan k. (NYC) said “We don’t want to inadvertently slander anyone on this site! Why not? They do it all the time on this site.

  • PewL

    I hope Obama’s acceptance speech ends like this..

    Ladies and Gentleman I’m honored to have been chosen THE ONE,but can’t accept the nomination because I can’t speak, on my own or think on my own and People hate me,and I hate People and I love Myself,more than I love my country,so I hand my reigns to a woman,that will do America Proud.lol

    Feel free to add on your favourite..

  • Alien

    Cheer up foljs. Bernie Mac is dead. Long live Comedy.

  • Alien

    Women -1 . Bernie Mac 0. hoohoo.!

  • Ed Marshall

    Take a look at who cares what you think. It’s really not to late to walk back from where you have gone.