ailes vs. huffington – who’s inciting who, exactly?

AGI, I am reading this in the middle of class – students are working together on a handout – and so, I cannot play the video right now.  But this article is PRICELESS; I am smiling ear to ear.  (Coincidentally, I am working on my next article, which describes that the Boston Globe ‘disappeared’ MY comment; and it says so, right on the screen.  As you say, thank goodness for screen caps.)

AGI–I saw this live yesterday.  I am SO glad you wrote this story (and did a great job of it I might add).  People get SO riled up without realizing that the sacks they are carrying on their own backs are filled with the same mucky junk.

I was worried when Arinana started off–Ailes had that look of a hound dog that has just spotted prize prey. 

One lesson to Arianna–don’t take on anyone who has 30 IQ points on you.

Speaking as someone who had considered myself a Democrat and a liberal up until 2008, I am seriously tired of the left’s whining and bashing of Fox News, Glenn Beck, and Rush Limbaugh.

It’s pathetic.

They can’t compete on substance. All the left does is whine and point fingers and smirk about how stupid the unwashed conservative masses are. Then they call names and talk about how “extreme” “Faux News” is, without once acknowledging how extreme and marginal many in the far left actually are.

Having listened to both Rush Limbaugh and Keith Olbermann, I am sorry to say that Rush beats Olbermann in intelligence, wit, style and substance. By a longshot. And I don’t agree with everything Rush says, but the vast gap between actual substance and just loud-mouthing ranting (Olbermann) is bigger than the Grand Canyon.

And while Beck can get hysterical at times, his points about the vision of the founding fathers are good ones and I think it’s a positive he’s reminding us of them constantly…whereas the left would like to ignore America’s roots and pretend we’ve transcended all that stuff “freedom and liberty” stuff to become Chris Matthews’ vision of a “postracial” America where we can forget our president is black for an hour.

HufPo Co-founder and former Columbia University professor Kenneth Lerer and wife Katherine Sailer are active fundraisers for the Democratic party. According to the New York Times, on April 9, 2007, they co-hosted a $2,300/plate fundraiser for Barack Obama at their Central Park West apartment in New York.  Just, FYI.  Consider the source.

Great article, AGII.  Arianna Huffington should hang her head in shame.  I will never forget the 2008 primary and I will never forget the headline banners in red bold letters across the whole page smearing and saying the most horrible things about Hillary Clinton.  Huffington is the boss and she puts the tripe out — I hope she’s happy about the candidate she pushed — she wanted him, she got him.

She has some nerve talking about hate speech — yes, words do matter and some of the articles in her damned paper, not to mention the disgusting comments, would take the hide off a rhinocerous.

She is an opportunist.  Just like Dowd and Kos and the rest.

Anything the right says is “hate speech,” anything that the left says is “truth.”  Do they think that we aren’t on to them, yet?  Watch in November.

I would pay real money to watch Megyn Kelly debate anyone from MSNBC.

Fox News, in a recent poll, was deemed the most reliable of all the networks by 48% of those surveyed.

Huffington Post needs to apologize for their acidic coverage of Hillary Clinton during the 2008 presidential race. I collected some of the over the line headlines that were used on Huffington Post against Hillary Clinton in 2008.

http://alessandromachi.blogspot.com/2008/06/huffington-post-prints-another-hillary.html

tango, Yes, I remember how my call during the primaries for a moderate tone on Huff&Puff about Hillary got slammed again and again until I simply stopped going to the site.  Good though because that’s how I found NQ.  I truly believe that had I been in the same room physically with some of the HP posters, they might have threatened my life.  Truly vile. 

And the posts about Sarah?  Coming from the most sexually promiscuious people in the universe…the Left…laughable.  An assumption?  No, sorry but proper, civil people don’t speak in that manner  or lack any sense of boundaries.  They are all about tearing down all manner of propriaty and civil discourse. When Sarah Bernhardt made those threatening, disturbing remarks against Sarah Palin, I really knew they had scraped the bottom of the barrell…where they continue to stay. 

Arianna had the gall to come to Monterey back then and speak on Ethics in Communication.  Hey, Ms Huffington, just because you speak it doesn’t make it true.  You are the living embodiment of that lie.  She gave me the biggist and most cynical laugh of the week.

This is now the yarn they spin…. that anyone who questions them is “dangerous” and ought to be silenced. But they (the likes of Arianna) take no responsibilitywhatsoever for the irresponsible (*dangerous*) things they print… or allow to be printed.

As a Liberal, and former Democrat, I agree with the sentiments above. Cut with the whining, Arianna (and ilk.) It amounts to no more then the pot calling the kettle black.

Sorry OT, I didn’t see an open thread
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/01/atlas-exclusive-obama-organizing-for-communism-and-youth-corps-in-the-public-school-1.html
An Atlas reader, Chuck, has a student in the eleventh grade in an Ohio High School. Her government class passed out this propaganda recruiting paper so students could sign up as interns for Obama’s Organizing for America
There is a picture of the application, students (High school AND college) will get school credit for campaingning FOR obama..min 12 hours per week

Still not working on my computer, Sara.

Alessndro,

I went to your blogsite — thank you so much for the wonderful job you did gathering the HuffPo hit squad posts on Hillary.  Since I ran screaming from their site during the primary, I missed much of this, though I knew they were trashing her daily from other sources braver than I who wandered into that sewer and reported back. 

I appreciate your work on the subject.  This really does need to be catalogued.  I have had enough revisionist history to last a lifetime.

Thanks for the link.  “Republican strategist Ed Rollins (who managed Michael Huffington’s 1994 campaign for the California Senate) once called Arianna Huffington ‘a domineering Greek Rasputin” who was ‘the most ruthless, unscrupulous, and ambitious person I’d met in thirty years in national politics’.”  Pretty accurate I’d say.  Not to mention the biggest hypocrit of all time. 

I found it interesting that she was a follower of Rashnesh.  I knew a couple of people who went up to live in the commune in Oregon.  I’m hardly a prude (is anyone who survived the 60′s?) but the stories of the sexual free-for (whenever, wherever and with as many as possibe…as the gateway to “enlightment”) left me feeling repulsed and embarrassed at how they were manipulated and taken in.  It’s no wonder she fell for the O-Cult.

Arianna, you know down deep in the dark corners of your black heart, you want Beck. you can’t stop saying his name, It’s time you to confront your inner conservative and make peace with it.  

Thanks for the link.  “Republican strategist Ed Rollins (who managed Michael Huffington’s 1994 campaign for the California Senate) once called Arianna Huffington ‘a domineering Greek Rasputin’ who was ‘the most ruthless, unscrupulous, and ambitious person I’d met in thirty years in national politics’.”  Pretty accurate I’d say.  Not to mention the biggest hypocrit of all time.   
 
I found it interesting that she was a follower of Rashneesh.  I knew a couple of people who went up to live in the commune with him in Oregon.  I’m hardly a prude (is anyone who survived the 60′s?) but the stories of the sexual free-for (whenever, wherever and with as many as possible…as the gateway to “enlightment”) left me feeling repulsed and embarrassed at how they were manipulated and taken in.  It’s no wonder she fell for the O-Cult.  The Left never changes…leaving me to wonder what Arianna’s next incarnation will be?

Yep Sara, the link to the video is now working fine.  Like an old fool I just kept clicking on the pic below the link expecting it to start working . . .
It’s a fascinating roundtable!  I have never seen Krugman so lame; Will made him look like a child, IMHO.  Krugman’s remark that the health plan was scuttled because “there was somebody in Massachusetts that doesn’t know the Red Sox” was particularly outrageous.

She , Huffington, has always been a pathetic moron. I think it was the night before the 97′ SOU  speech and she and fellow Republican punitive  Kelly (now) Conway on the Charles Grodin Show were busy tearing Bill Clinton up over Monica L. and both got the kicks predicting no one would watch. Next day Bill pulled in the largest audience to watch a SoU Speach.
 

She , Huffington, has always been a pathetic moron. I think it was the night before the 97′ SOU  speech and she and fellow Republican punitive and Kellyanne (now) Conway on the Charles Grodin Show were busy tearing Bill Clinton up over Monica L. and both got the kicks predicting no one would watch. Next day Bill pulled in the largest audience to watch a SoU Speach.
 

leaving me to wonder what Arianna’s next incarnation will be? 

I don’t know–but Thee One better watch his back . . .

Sara — thanks for posting about this round table. I’m another who walked away from HuffPo after being excoriated for defending Hillary in 2008. My husband watched the discussion yesterday and came away wondering if Barbara would be turning it into The View.

I enjoyed the smackdown of Arriana, but I had to laugh as George Will was listing a few of the missteps from the SOTU address. Paul Krugman’s eyes seemed to get larger and more surprised with every word. He looked not so much like a deer in headlights as he did like a kid caught with his hand in the cookie jar. Was he shocked that people noticed the inferior quality of the Great Orator’s words?

I put a one line comment on that thread – “Not all young people are easily duped.” <a hred=”http://jbjd.wordpress.com/2010/01/06/out-of-the-mouths-of-babes/”>OUT OF THE MOUTHS OF BABES</a> – and in the last 2 days, I have received hundreds of hits from her blog.  Hot Air posted her link and someone there posted a comment about MY comment on Atlas; and I got a couple of hundred hits from Hot Air.  I also got a hit from the White House Facebook page (?). 

jbjd<img style=”cursor: pointer; display: none;” src=”http://cdn.js-kit.com/images/icon10-external-url.png” title=”http://jbjd.wordpress.com”/>
I put a one line comment on that thread – “Not all young people are easily duped.” <a href=”http://jbjd.wordpress.com/2010/01/06/out-of-the-mouths-of-babes/“>OUT OF THE MOUTHS OF BABES</a> – and in the last 2 days, I have received hundreds of hits from her blog.  Hot Air posted her link and someone there posted a comment about MY comment on Atlas; and I got a couple of hundred hits from Hot Air.  I also got a hit from the White House Facebook page (?).

I put a one line comment on that thread – “Not all young people are easily duped.” <a href=”http://jbjd.wordpress.com/2010/01/06/out-of-the-mouths-of-babes/“>OUT OF THE MOUTHS OF BABES</a> – and in the last 2 days, I have received hundreds of hits from her blog.  Hot Air posted her link and someone there posted a comment about MY comment on Atlas; and I got a couple of hundred hits from Hot Air.  I also got a hit from the White House Facebook page (?). 

The expression “femme fatale” comes to mind . . .

oowawa — it’s articles like Ajami’s that make me proud to be “post hopeful” – to use your great phrase from way downstream ….

I just read that article.  ”he himself now owns up to the “remoteness and detachment” of his governing style.”  He is not remote or detached.  He is dazed and confused.

He has no idea of where he is or what he should do.  He reminds me of a third string wide receiver waving his hands in the air, jumping up and down and not even bothering to turn around and stop cheering himself after the other team has run away with the ball.

I love analogies like this, WV304.  To riff on the theme: the real problem is that he’s not only the receiver waving his hands, he’s also the quarterback, and he’s trying to figure out how to throw  the ball to Himself, run for a touchdown, then do an end-zone celebration dance to thunderous cheers without involving anyone else in the spotlight.

I called the Stark County Republican Party, which is the county where the school in question is, and told them about it. Also sent them an email with the link. I just called to follow up and they couldn’t find my email, which was weird because I use AOL and their email addy is on AOL, so they should have had no problem. But the nice young man told me she uses Outlook, so it may have been sorted differently or something. So I gave them more info and the link location over the phone and they are going to look into it.

That was before (I’m just sure) the DNC so creatively gave Obama the nomination.  Oowawa, you weren’t too far off!  

I wonder why she kept her ex-husband’s name (Huffington)  If I recall they divorced right after Mr. Huffington revealed that he was gay.  

LOL!

Thanks, I did one about MSNBC and the “media” assault on Hillary Clinton as well.  http://fair-reflection.blogspot.com/2008/08/never-forget-media-bias-in-2008.html

I don’t think I was ever banned, but they seemed very selective about which of my posts got published. I made it a point not to use expletives when commenting because I foolishly thought that would cause my most impassioned rants to be axed. I still found that my replies (some in defense of my original position), were deleted while Obots continued to label me with every vile name they could think of. I finally realized I was being censored while the haters were not.
I’m so glad to’ve found No Quarter where people can disagree without resorting to sophomoric insults.

Then there was this one…kind of creepy looking at it now and how the media just went overboard against Hillary Clinton.

http://alessandromachi.blogspot.com/2008/05/media-is-addicted-to-hating-hillary.html

Sorry regarding name, ment to type in my name, instead typed yours???

tricia, i imagine that ailes had looked at who he would have on the panel and was prepared in advance with some good comebacks when they tried to slice and dice.  but it was a good zinger

tex mex soupd i am in the same boat as you. glad to know who is at the oars with me.

I too have become a listener of Glenn Beck.  I used to be a liberal democrat, but I have reemerged as an conservative Independent. 
WOW HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?  With all that went on during the 2008 elections, the blatant way Obama cheated and had his goons cheat for him, I was completely appalled.  Hillary was her usual graceful self, and I honor her, but I will never again be affiliated with any political party again, especially the democrats.  Now I might reconsider if there we maybe a
TEA PARTY CANDIDATE!  I could get into promoting that.  I am tired of all the liars like Huffington, if the world isn’t seeing things her way, they are a bunch of idiots.  She sounds just like Pelosi.  Get rid of the lot of them, Huff, Obama,Pelosi,Reed, and the entire democratic senate and house.
We must start over, begin again, because what we have here is a failure to communicate, we’re talking but no-one is listening. 
Obama can you hear us now, perhaps after the 2010 elections!

To your point, I heard an anecdote about Tea Party protestors attracting the “interest” of young 0bama supporters, they accosted the tea party group (verbally). The protestors engaged the 0bama youth, explained to them the issues and that they were doing this for THEIR future (the kids). The young people ended up staying for the rally.

This was in Tampa.

I find Beck troubling.  Way too emotional/theatrical.  I do not want theater in politics.  I want informed, critically thinking people who can and do take effective action.

PA Caucasian, How do you think Hitler got started?

PE said, “I’m so glad to’ve found No Quarter where people can disagree without resorting to sophomoric insults.

It all depends on your definition of “sophomoric insults,” I guess.

Larry Johnson
JBJD, 
Are you kidding?  Are you really that uninformed.  Terrorism has not changed for the worse.  If anything, the threat has dramatically narrowed.  You obviously have no memory of the Rome and Vienna airport massacres.  You ever hear of Pan Am 103.  Grow up!
Friday, January 08, 2010, 15:16:03

AGI, your “Update” reminded me of Rolling Stone, which first headlined BO using the word, “Radical…” and then revised this to read, “Destiny’s Child…”
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/03/15/rolling-stone-changes-headline-obamas-radical-roots-destinys-chi

(I don’t know if ‘Newsbusters’ is a good source but the story is true; I just needed a quick cite.)

What amazes me is Krugman on that panel.  He still seems to have the same attitude that the American people just don’te get it re: Health Care Bill.. He doesn’t understand that people have actually read the thing and still don’t like it. He also says that a super majority is necessary for any bills to pass. Yes, the Repubs, as stupid as they were, did not need a super majority to pass many things GWB wanted. They didn’t have a super majority for the Iraq War.  They didn’t have a super majority for the stimulus bill.  I am not a Glenn Beck/ Fox fan. But I can count. Since Obama has been in the WH he’s had a far larger majority than GWB. Yet there’s nothing the Dems can do? In my lifetime I’ve seen both parties override Presidential vetos whithout a super majority.  What’s wrong with this picture?

This happened to myself as well. being a Hillary supporter meant I was treated as food.

Ditto–well said. I started listening to Rush during the primaries. He is way to the right of me, but in terms of broadcast style there are probably few who are as proficient. The left has been trying to bring him down for a long time; his ratings keep growing and so called progrssive shows are dropping like flies.

The left would have you believe that Rush is a racist. He is a lot of things, bombastic not being the least, but the man is not a racist.

Exactly, candymarl.  Krugman seemed clueless.

Right ON !

lol, I got banned for what I wrote on http://www.hillary-wins.com

I actually was kind of expecting it after I wrote the articles linking Arianna Huffington to George Soros.  http://caucuscheating.blogspot.com/2008/07/george-soros-and-his-power-grab.html

Thanks, I’ve sent it on to a few of the newly awakened as  further support.

word, tango.  the tone on BOTH sides is scary, so to see arianna acting all indignant and outraged about beck is pretty rich.  i visit “Democratic” Underground on a regular basis, and as AnnieCarmel said, it seems quite likely that a person’s physical safety could be in danger if they were in the same room with some of those folks.  they constantly use violent imagery like “crush, destroy, anihilate, slap down,” etc., and needless to say, anyone who doesn’t agree with them is evil incarnate.  the censorship is also very disturbing; wouldn’t want to see the moderators there get their hands on the Bill of Rights.

I think the 60 vote thing is or was a recent thing and it CAN be changed at will by whomever has the votes.  From what I’ve heard, it’s not set in stone.  There is no magic in the number 60 -it could be 55 or 90.  In any case, the 60 vote requirement works in just the opposite – it doesn’t protect the rights of the MAJORITY, you know the guys who won the election. But for goodness sake, we must not upset the republicans – they might not support anything the dems offer.  Oh, I forgot – they already do that.

i was shocked i tell you when i was banned for posting at daily shlock. then i moved on to better things while cuss took it over the ledge with the lemmings on the left.

i had the gall to defend hillary. ever notice how these so called independent blogs all turned on a dime at near the same time? food for thought!

Alessandro, you mean they banned you for something you wrote on another site?? That is ridiculous!! SAnd very fascist, come to think of it. I never posted on any of her sites, including her first one which called for the resignation of Bill Clinton. And I see no reason why anyone should pay attention to anything a Greek bimbo who married a gay guy for his money would have to say. Thank God she isn’t an NBC, so she can’t run for president.

FLDemFem — we know that’s no longer an obstacle.

JBJD,
That’s Larry imparting his warmth for your comment whatever that was. =-O

PE, the day and date of the post are in the comment.  But the underlying point of my response is this:  I did not ‘ban’ Larry.  No; this would mean, abandoning what has rightly been described as one of the most inclusive intelligent commuities of bloggers out there.  Instead, I only boycott his threads. (If you go looking, reading all of the comments posted on the thread will  in question will provide a fuller picture of what occurred.)

AC, my moniker is “jbjd.”  (For some reason, LJ used all caps.)

” it doesn’t protect the rights of the MAJORITY, you know the guys who won the election.”

As opposed to the rights of the MAJORITY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE who don’t want Obama’s healthcare bill?

When will you guys face reality?  If the MAJORITY of Americans wanted Obamacare, the Republicans could not stop it.  The Republicans face zero political risk by fillibustering because the MAJORITY of Americans don’t want this bloated, corrupt, deficit-exploding turd.  If the bill wasn’t such a stinker, the Dems would still have 60 votes.  There’s no fillibuster in the House, but Pelosi couldn’t even get a simple majority to pass the Senate stinker.

Obama’s problem isn’t the fillibuster.  His problem is the will of the people.

Meow!

PE, the day and date of the post are in the comment.  But the underlying point of my response is this:  I did not ‘ban’ Larry.  No; this would mean, abandoning what has rightly been described as one of the most inclusive intelligent commuities of bloggers out there.  Instead, I only boycott his threads. (If you go looking, reading all of the comments posted on the thread in question will provide a fuller picture of what occurred.) 

lark, I agree.  Beck has got a huge staff who does its homework – he is not sitting there talking off the top of his head. 

I’m amazed at the people who think he is a raging maniac.  He is not!  I will never be as conservative as he is and therefore question some of the things he gets on.  I bristle every time he uses an opportunity to put Hillary in the same boat with 0bama – like her debate comment, “I am a modern progressive”or how Hillary studied Alinski.  If Hillary is operating like 0bama seems to be with all the people around him hell bent on turning everything upside down, it is a deep dark secret.  Beck does not seem to understand that the democratic party leadership didn’t just select the nominee, they were very destructive toward Hillary – the thing I will never forgive them for. 

jbjd, The democrats got themselves in a world of hurt when they filibustered many of Bush’s judicial nominees. Remember the gang of 14?
I think it takes 3/4 of the Senate to change the parlimentary rules that donjo wants changed. The democrats do not have 67 votes, and even they aren’t stupid enough to start down that slope, and the republicans did not either.
I agree whole-heartedly with you concerning the “non-election” however!
Good luck with your work!

Sassy,
Good Morning, help me out here.  Do you recall the title and or date of the thread/post. Thanks

yowzas — so glad I could amuse. You’ll notice I said, “can disagree” not “do disagree”. Yes there are some who insist on the devolution of a debate into the realm of schoolyard bullying tactics, but I still think the majority here try to be civil even in disagreement. Nobody’s perfect, so sometimes even saints can lose it, especially when a troll persists in being intentionally confrontational.
I’m one of those who, for the sake of peace, try not to engage certain people on this site because it’s just too predictable what the outcome will be. If I find someone being bullied or there’s what I consider to be an egregious wrong, I usually do speak up.

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2010/01/08/republican-bogus-terrorism-talk/

Again, please, read ALL comments in order to maximize the chances to gain a clear understanding of what occurred, in context.

Sonic—– I haven’t seen your name here for ages!