Comments on: Is Health Care Reform Just Paper on the Bird Cage Floor? http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/41593/is-health-care-reform-just-paper-on-the-bird-cage-floor/ Sun, 27 May 2012 09:27:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Pat Racimora http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/41593/is-health-care-reform-just-paper-on-the-bird-cage-floor/#comment-1458399 Pat Racimora Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:33:17 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=41593#comment-1458399 <strong>FEBRUARY 2011  START UPDATED COMMENTS HERE</strong> FEBRUARY 2011  START UPDATED COMMENTS HERE

]]> By: FLDemFem http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/41593/is-health-care-reform-just-paper-on-the-bird-cage-floor/#comment-1303473 FLDemFem Tue, 02 Feb 2010 23:04:18 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=41593#comment-1303473 While I totally agree with Ms. Palin on this subject, I just have one question. What makes her think that Obama is Rham Emmanuel's boss?? It seems to me that it's the other way around. Just sayin' ;) While I totally agree with Ms. Palin on this subject, I just have one question. What makes her think that Obama is Rham Emmanuel’s boss?? It seems to me that it’s the other way around. Just sayin’
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]]> By: FLDemFem http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/41593/is-health-care-reform-just-paper-on-the-bird-cage-floor/#comment-1303470 FLDemFem Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:58:41 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=41593#comment-1303470 Guest, that wasn't the sort of regulation I meant. The regulations should be for insurance companies and hospitals, so they don't overcharge everyone in sight, and so they deliver the insurance payments and the care that they are supposed to. Doctors should be the last people who get their fees cut, as long as the fees are reasonable. What they should cut is jobs like Michelle Obama's at the UofC hospital, which paid her a starting salary of $120,000 which was raised to $317,000 when her husband tossed some pork their way, one million dollars worth. Imagine how much health care her salary could have funded. It would have probably paid the costs of treating the people she turned away to other hospitals and clinics. I think all hospitals should be non-profit. No one should make money off other peoples' misery unless they are providing the care or medication. And even that should have a ceiling on it. We can come up with all sorts of programs to encourage doctors to treat people because they need it rather than because they can afford it. One way would be to forgive student loans used for medical school for doctors who work below a certain salary level and work in difficult venues. The main reason I hear for high doctor fees is that they have to pay back student loans and also carry malpractice insurance. Perhaps something could be addressed to share the cost of malpractice insurance, or to lower the rates for it. There are lots of ways we can lower health care costs, which would put decent health care in the reach of every American. But that can't happen until the corporations stop sucking profits out of the health care system. It's not regulation that's the problem, Guest, it's the greed. Guest, that wasn’t the sort of regulation I meant. The regulations should be for insurance companies and hospitals, so they don’t overcharge everyone in sight, and so they deliver the insurance payments and the care that they are supposed to. Doctors should be the last people who get their fees cut, as long as the fees are reasonable. What they should cut is jobs like Michelle Obama’s at the UofC hospital, which paid her a starting salary of $120,000 which was raised to $317,000 when her husband tossed some pork their way, one million dollars worth. Imagine how much health care her salary could have funded. It would have probably paid the costs of treating the people she turned away to other hospitals and clinics. I think all hospitals should be non-profit. No one should make money off other peoples’ misery unless they are providing the care or medication. And even that should have a ceiling on it. We can come up with all sorts of programs to encourage doctors to treat people because they need it rather than because they can afford it. One way would be to forgive student loans used for medical school for doctors who work below a certain salary level and work in difficult venues. The main reason I hear for high doctor fees is that they have to pay back student loans and also carry malpractice insurance. Perhaps something could be addressed to share the cost of malpractice insurance, or to lower the rates for it. There are lots of ways we can lower health care costs, which would put decent health care in the reach of every American. But that can’t happen until the corporations stop sucking profits out of the health care system. It’s not regulation that’s the problem, Guest, it’s the greed.

]]> By: margaret http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/41593/is-health-care-reform-just-paper-on-the-bird-cage-floor/#comment-1303408 margaret Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:51:51 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=41593#comment-1303408 Pat, you continue to outdo yourself with the most amazing cartoons!  Thanks for the good chuckle this one gave me Pat, you continue to outdo yourself with the most amazing cartoons!  Thanks for the good chuckle this one gave me

]]> By: Pat Racimora http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/41593/is-health-care-reform-just-paper-on-the-bird-cage-floor/#comment-1303382 Pat Racimora Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:19:57 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=41593#comment-1303382 Thanks Portia Elizabeth! Dems can't organize a two car parade.  LOL!!!! Thanks Portia Elizabeth!
Dems can’t organize a two car parade.  LOL!!!!

]]> By: FLDemFem http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/41593/is-health-care-reform-just-paper-on-the-bird-cage-floor/#comment-1303376 FLDemFem Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:11:52 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=41593#comment-1303376 In 1992, I was T-boned by a semi while driving down the road in my pickup truck. I was in the hospital, Rockingham Memorial in Harrisonburg, VA, for 13 days. I had two x-rays a day to determine if my torn lung and ripped bronchi had healed enough to take out the chest tube. I was also on pain meds and antibiotics. I did not have health insurance at that time. The bill for the 13 days and meds, doctor fees, etc. was $5000. That's right, <b>five thousand dollars for 13 days in the hospital.</b> I thought they had made a mistake and asked them about it. It wasn't a mistake. I asked them how they charge so little for so much. Here is what they told me. That hospital doesn't buy or build <i>anything</i> until the money is raised. They have no mortgages or loans to pay off. I understand that their rates are still reasonable to this day. If more hospitals were run like that one, we wouldn't have this health care crisis. I think it's criminal that corporations are permitted to make a profit off the misery and trauma of Americans. And all this health care bill is going to do is increase the profit margins for the hospitals and insurance people. It won't do squat for the patients, no matter what the "experts" in DC say. After all, it's not like they have to live with it or die for lack of it. They have their own health care plan, paid for by us. Why would they turn on their benefactors, the corporations, in favor of the people who elected them??? In 1992, I was T-boned by a semi while driving down the road in my pickup truck. I was in the hospital, Rockingham Memorial in Harrisonburg, VA, for 13 days. I had two x-rays a day to determine if my torn lung and ripped bronchi had healed enough to take out the chest tube. I was also on pain meds and antibiotics. I did not have health insurance at that time. The bill for the 13 days and meds, doctor fees, etc. was $5000. That’s right, five thousand dollars for 13 days in the hospital. I thought they had made a mistake and asked them about it. It wasn’t a mistake. I asked them how they charge so little for so much. Here is what they told me. That hospital doesn’t buy or build anything until the money is raised. They have no mortgages or loans to pay off. I understand that their rates are still reasonable to this day. If more hospitals were run like that one, we wouldn’t have this health care crisis.

I think it’s criminal that corporations are permitted to make a profit off the misery and trauma of Americans. And all this health care bill is going to do is increase the profit margins for the hospitals and insurance people. It won’t do squat for the patients, no matter what the “experts” in DC say. After all, it’s not like they have to live with it or die for lack of it. They have their own health care plan, paid for by us. Why would they turn on their benefactors, the corporations, in favor of the people who elected them???

]]> By: Sassy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/41593/is-health-care-reform-just-paper-on-the-bird-cage-floor/#comment-1303328 Sassy Tue, 02 Feb 2010 14:24:32 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=41593#comment-1303328 Aside from the way this bill was crafted, and then loaded with bribes, I am most angry that democrats were more than willing to risk harm to seniors on Medicare...citizens of this country, who have contributed all their lives. Then the same democrats were prepared to spend millions of dollars to protect the "rights" of terrorists in civilian court, when there are alternatives. Would the republicans go after entitlement programs? Of course, but I don't see them pandering to enemies of this country! Aside from the way this bill was crafted, and then loaded with bribes, I am most angry that democrats were more than willing to risk harm to seniors on Medicare…citizens of this country, who have contributed all their lives.
Then the same democrats were prepared to spend millions of dollars to protect the “rights” of terrorists in civilian court, when there are alternatives.
Would the republicans go after entitlement programs? Of course, but I don’t see them pandering to enemies of this country!

]]> By: imustprotest http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/41593/is-health-care-reform-just-paper-on-the-bird-cage-floor/#comment-1303323 imustprotest Tue, 02 Feb 2010 13:57:13 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=41593#comment-1303323 I am a parent of a physically and cognitively challenged child and I applaud Sarah Palin for calling out Mr. Emmanuel on his use of the word "retarded".  The use of the word seems to have exploded with the current generation and it's sad that someone in such a public position would stoop slow low instead of raising the bar on discourse and common decency. I am a parent of a physically and cognitively challenged child and I applaud Sarah Palin for calling out Mr. Emmanuel on his use of the word “retarded”.  The use of the word seems to have exploded with the current generation and it’s sad that someone in such a public position would stoop slow low instead of raising the bar on discourse and common decency.

]]> By: kenoshamarge http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/41593/is-health-care-reform-just-paper-on-the-bird-cage-floor/#comment-1303319 kenoshamarge Tue, 02 Feb 2010 12:52:52 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=41593#comment-1303319 I have two Blue and Gold Macaws that are given appropriate newpaper images to defecate upon on a regular basis. They may not care, but it raises my spirits somewhat. Adorable little canary Pat! I have two Blue and Gold Macaws that are given appropriate newpaper images to defecate upon on a regular basis. They may not care, but it raises my spirits somewhat.

Adorable little canary Pat!

]]> By: Doc99 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/41593/is-health-care-reform-just-paper-on-the-bird-cage-floor/#comment-1303318 Doc99 Tue, 02 Feb 2010 11:24:33 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=41593#comment-1303318 The Reid-Pelosi Politburo Bill is a jobs killer. Time to get out of the backrooms and start over. The Reid-Pelosi Politburo Bill is a jobs killer. Time to get out of the backrooms and start over.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/41593/is-health-care-reform-just-paper-on-the-bird-cage-floor/#comment-1303314 Anonymous Tue, 02 Feb 2010 07:16:51 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=41593#comment-1303314 JANY 19TH JANY 19TH

]]> By: whoframedrudy http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/41593/is-health-care-reform-just-paper-on-the-bird-cage-floor/#comment-1303312 whoframedrudy Tue, 02 Feb 2010 07:10:35 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=41593#comment-1303312 "It is like a building that was designed by too many designers, all of whom had different customers in mind and the architects never spoke to each other and then they tried to combine their designs based on the fact that each was trying to please their own customers, not the others."  That also sound a lot like the Democratic Primary 'Process' -- haha -- that produced Obama. “It is like a building that was designed by too many designers, all of whom had different customers in mind and the architects never spoke to each other and then they tried to combine their designs based on the fact that each was trying to please their own customers, not the others.”

 That also sound a lot like the Democratic Primary ‘Process’ — haha — that produced Obama.

]]> By: AnnieCarmel http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/41593/is-health-care-reform-just-paper-on-the-bird-cage-floor/#comment-1303304 AnnieCarmel Tue, 02 Feb 2010 04:41:10 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=41593#comment-1303304 Bless you Sarah! Bless you Sarah!

]]> By: jwrjr http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/41593/is-health-care-reform-just-paper-on-the-bird-cage-floor/#comment-1303303 jwrjr Tue, 02 Feb 2010 04:41:09 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=41593#comment-1303303 Re: #15 - public election financing: this is the <b>last</b> thing that incumbents in general and Chicago politicians (i.e. Obama) want. Re: #15 – public election financing: this is the last thing that incumbents in general and Chicago politicians (i.e. Obama) want.

]]> By: Obamastolemyparty http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/41593/is-health-care-reform-just-paper-on-the-bird-cage-floor/#comment-1303298 Obamastolemyparty Tue, 02 Feb 2010 03:50:35 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=41593#comment-1303298 Self pay.  If people want something, they will pay for it. Self pay.  If people want something, they will pay for it.

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