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Rasmussen Says Few Believe Obama on Economy

By LisaB on February 4, 2010 at 6:30 PM in Current Affairs

Rasmussen issued a report on January 30th, saying most people did NOT believe Obama’s SOTU statements about the economy.

During his State-of-the-Union address Wednesday night, President Obama spoke about a deficit of trust between the American people and political leaders. New Rasmussen Reports polling on the president’s speech shows just how deep that trust deficit has become.

The president in the speech declared that his administration has cut taxes for 95% of Americans. He even chided Republicans for not applauding on that point. However, just 21% of voters nationwide believe that taxes have been cut for 95% of Americans. Most (53%) say it has not happened, and 26% are not sure. Other polling shows that nearly half the nation’s voters expect their own taxes to go up during the Obama years.

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Rasmussen Reports has compiled a summary of voters’ views on topics raised in the State-of-the-Union speech.

The tax issue is especially significant in a troubled economic time. Sixty-one percent (61%) of voters believe that tax cuts are good for the economy. As Scott Rasmussen noted in a Wall Street Journal column shortly after Obama was elected, the current president won the White House by campaigning like Ronald Reagan: “Down the campaign homestretch, Mr. Obama’s tax-cutting promise became his clearest policy position.”

Hey, I’ve seen my taxes really go up in the last year. What about you? Think they’ll go down anytime soon? I don’t. I’m just hoping I can continue to afford them. I’ve got neighbors trying to sell their home over increased property taxes.

  • PaiKillerJayne

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    Sorry to be off topic. John posted a letter to Barry i wrote last week. I have never seen liberal Rapture offline. Does anyone here know what is going on?

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  • IndayHill

    I do not believe what he said. What I see in my town is what I believe in and it is sad noticing many For Sale signs / Auction Sale posted in the neighborhood homes. It is an economic crisis. Obama is blind, deaf & mute to the reality outside WH, the people’s house, just in case he forgets.
    America MUST wake up and evict this “pretenders” from office. How can they help the economy when all they care is their own bank account?
    I read that another big global trip is upcomng for the Obamas: travel to Indonesia & Australia ENOUGH !! stay home and work! TIGHTEN YOUR BELT !

  • buzzlatte

    Taxes have gone up. Period.  

  • sowsear

    He may have to stay home this coming weekend, unless he gets out before the storm.

  • Chicago Joe

    Does anyone believe anything he says about anything?  I think he is a complete failure as a president, and I have been saying all along that he never actually accomplished anything in his prior career.  The counter argument was the “fabulous” campaign he ran.  In truth, his campaign was more of a production than a rreal achievement.  At this point, I almost feel sorry for him.  When he talks his “game,” it sounds good, but his execution sucks and he is powerless to fix it. 

  • SHV

    John let his domain name lapse and someone else bought it.  His new site is:

    http://johnwsmart.com/

  • Anonymous

    LisaB,

    “Seventy-five percent (75%) of Republican voters say their party’s representatives are out of touch with the party’s base. “

    This quote from the report you quote about Republicans is far worse than anything that the poll says about the Democrats. Their own people have no belief in their own Republican politicians. The Democrats support their party much more than the Republicans. No doubt after Bush and with the Republicans leaving this country with a huge recession, deficit and debt.

    The polling also suggests a lot of ignorant people out there. We have had two quarters in a roll of very strong economic growth. The fourth quarter grew at a very remarkable 5.7%.  Hard to dispute the facts. See:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2010/01/29/DI2010012902016.html

    And you can go directly to the IRS website to see the tax cuts. Not sure how you argue with what the IRS says you can do. There have been plenty of tax cuts under Obama. In stimulus bill, new home owner credits, etc. etc. Again a lot of ignorant people.

    “The tax cuts offer $400 to individuals making less than $75,000 and $800 to married couples making less than $150,000 per year. The tax credits, which will show up in workers paychecks, will be phased out for those above the thresholds. Couples making $200,000 and individuals making $100,000 will not receive any breaks.”

    See:
    http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=109816,00.html

     
    Most of the ignoramuss out there tend to be Republicans, if you look at the numbers. Does not surprise me, given most of these people will never accept a Democratic president and are programmed by FOX and believe the earth is flat and everything is god’s will.

  • Docelder

    Where’s the jobs?

  • Diana L. C.

    I am just hoping my taxes won’t be higher than they were last year. 

    I don’t believe ANYTHING this president says, period.  And, as for Guest, I don’t really believe Republicans either.  Democrats in Power = Republicans in Power, at least as far as I can tell.  Both are totally disconnected from the people they represent.  So what you are seeing is that group of Independents, such as I became after this election, who are not convinced that Bambi tells the truth.

    Guest, quit thinking in terms of Republican vs. Democrat.  It’s the GDIs such as I became this year you have to convince. (And I am one of those ex-Democrats who left the party over Obambi.)

  • sandshark222

    Lay off the kool-aid. This has nothing to do with the party. Clinton was a democrat and he was widely accepted. The problem is nobody believes Obama because he talks out of both sides of his mouth and is frequently caught in lies. I’d like to see how many ways he also raised taxes this year. If you think his proposed obamacare isn’t gonna raise taxes on most people, you’re our of your freakin’ mind.

  • Anonymous

    take an economics course. jobs follow economic growth. they are a lagging indicator. most economist believe we will be creating jobs through 2010. you just cannot switch a switch and start creating jobs on a dime when we were losing them at 750,000 a month under Bush. funny all you conservatives complain about the government, then you say that it is up to the government to create jobs. the reality is the stimulus saved a ton of jobs. The CBO says the stimulus saved or created 1.6 million jobs, so without it we would be far worse off.

    See: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/69923-cbo-stimulus-saved-or-created-as-many-as-16m-jobs

    The jobs report for January comes out tomorrow morning. Lets see what it says. Last January 2009 we lost nearly 560,000, so to got to positive growth in less than a year would be remarkable given the depth of this recession.

    See:
    http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/04/jobs-report-preview-4/

  • Anonymous

    Diana L.C.,

    The reality is given the size the debt and deficit Bush left this country, we should all be paying higher taxes to pay off our debt. You represent a typical American. Wants everything for free (wars, Bush tax cuts, prescription bill, etc.) and you do not want to pay for it.

    There is no way on the planet you were ever a Democrat if you are associated with this completely bias website. Democrats don’t need people like you, if you just run and are afraid to take on big important issues like healthcare, the environment and fixing the economy.

  • Rasmussen’s Janitor

    Guest.  You are an ignorant slut, probably too young to remember Dan Akroid on SNL giving that line.  The truth is that, when cleaning the floors at the polling office, I found notes from callers who were talking to respondents like you.  Hree is a sample.

    Lie to me, it doesn’t matter anymore
    It could never be, the way it was before

    Leave me somethin’ I can hold onto
    For just a little while won’t you, won’t you let me be

    Lie to me, go ahead and lie to me

    http://popup.lala.com/popup/432627043563739394

  • timmy

    Is there anyone in America that still believes Obama or anything he says. The guy is on TV everyday, every time, every hour, every second….. and nobody believes what he’s selling. And to think that the media thinks this fraud is the best communicator of our time is the funniest thing ever….. the message sucks, the policy stick, the messenger is a fraud and America is not not buying.

  • Anonymous

    Clinton was hardly widely accepted. His ratings fell to below 50% in just 4 months. It took Obama 8 months. Clinton was trashed like no other. Just more of the same for Obama. Conservatives cannot stand a democrat in the whitehouse. They cannot accept democracy.

    “If his (Obama) rating falls below 50% before November, it would represent the third-fastest drop to below majority approval since World War II, behind the declines for Gerald Ford (in his third month as president) and Bill Clinton (in his fourth month).”

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/122513/Presidential-Approval-Usually-Falls-Below-Timing-Varies.aspx

    Great you can speculate about raising taxes, which I think would actually be a good thing at some point so we can pay off the debt Bush left us, but there is no evidence Obama is intending to raise taxes with or without health insurance reform. In fact, the stimulus gave us the biggest middle class tax cut ever. Actually, it was the biggest tax cut ever. See below.

    http://www.usnews.com/blogs/robert-schlesinger/2009/02/12/is-obama-stimulus-plan-also-the-biggest-tax-cut-ever.html

    http://blog.beliefnet.com/stevenwaldman/2009/02/is-obamas-tax-cut-the-biggest.html

    A lot of people believe Obama. His ratings are pretty good, all things considered. I think you should read this story.

    “President Obama’s trust rating remains steady at 54 percent — a number that has not changed since last July, including among independents,” wrote Dick Keil of Public Strategies Inc. in a memo accompanying the poll.” 

    Given that Obama won the election by 53% it is not surprising that the people who never voted for him don’t trust him. 

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31767.html

    By the way, given all the BS on this website, can you give me a couple of actual examples where Obama has lied as you say.  Love to see some links, where Obama intentially lied, and said something that he knew was wrong.

  • Rasmussen’s Janitor

    Survey says:  Strong people run TO something.  The weak run away.  Those who do nothing but cheer their own echos are in a state of having simultaneous, conflicting feelings toward their own words.  There is a qaualitative category for the third that is called bots.  People don’t need you. They don’t want you.  And, your ideas are so last month.

  • Anonymous

    Clinton was hardly widely accepted. His ratings fell to below 50% in just 4 months. It took Obama 8 months. Clinton was trashed like no other. Just more of the same for Obama. Conservatives cannot stand a democrat in the whitehouse. They cannot accept democracy.  
     
    “If his (Obama) rating falls below 50% before November, it would represent the third-fastest drop to below majority approval since World War II, behind the declines for Gerald Ford (in his third month as president) and Bill Clinton (in his fourth month).”  
     
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/122513/Presidential-Approval-Usually-Falls-Below-Timing-Varies.aspx  
     
    Great you can speculate about raising taxes, which I think would actually be a good thing at some point so we can pay off the debt Bush left us, but there is no evidence Obama is intending to raise taxes with or without health insurance reform. In fact, the stimulus gave us the biggest middle class tax cut ever. Actually, it was the biggest tax cut ever. See below.  
     
    http://www.usnews.com/blogs/robert-schlesinger/2009/02/12/is-obama-stimulus-plan-also-the-biggest-tax-cut-ever.html  
     
    http://blog.beliefnet.com/stevenwaldman/2009/02/is-obamas-tax-cut-the-biggest.html  
     
     
    A lot of people believe Obama. His ratings are pretty good, all things considered. I think you should read this story.  
     
    “President Obama’s trust rating remains steady at 54 percent — a number that has not changed since last July, including among independents,” wrote Dick Keil of Public Strategies Inc. in a memo accompanying the poll.”   
     
    Given that Obama won the election by 53% it is not surprising that the people who never voted for him don’t trust him. 

    See this article: “Poll: Obama still most trusted”  
     
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31767.html  
     
    By the way, given all the BS on this website, can you give me a couple of actual examples where Obama has lied as you say.  Love to see some links, where Obama intentially lied, and said something that he knew was wrong.

  • Rasmussen’s Janitor

    Guest.  Bush Bush Bush.  Put some music to that.

  • boonies

    the other day I said to my wife…”didnt Billy Mays die?” not realizing it was the State of the Union speech….

  • Rasmussen’s Janitor

    Billy Mays?  Please explain.  Sounds interesting.

  • Docelder

    Where’s the jobs? He chose to change America over jobs. He could have focused on the economy and on jobs, but instead he kept the crisis going and let Nancy and Harry force feed America radical change. All the while this economy was bleeding jobs. Nobody cared. Nancy, Harry and Barry partied, vacationed and treated middle class Americans like dirt. Where’s the jobs? Nobody is going to remember anything he tried to do if Obama turns out to be new Hoover. I hear a loud sucking sound like a hoover.

  • candymarl

    Many Presideents have walked into office behind predessors that left messes. Most of them hunkered down and worked hard to solve the problems while communicating with the American People. Not talking at them constantly or lecturing them.

    Others made the mess left behind worse. But most didn’t spend most of their time blaming predessors or others (banks, greedy Wall Streeters etc.) Sometimes  you have to suck it up, put your head down,  and get to work.  That’s what real leaders do.

  • Rasmussen’s Janitor

    Sorry.  got it.  Salesman.  Obviously not in my study group.  I’ll go back to sweeping the floors.

  • boonies

    he was the  24/7 snake-oil infomercial hustler on cable TV  who died suddenly a few months ago…he hawked  products like What Odor?, Awesome Auger, Quick Chop, Omni Dual Saw, Simoniz Fix It!,…you get the picture.Products that always failed to deliver.

    See the similarities?

  • sowsear

    Isn’t our debt now 4x what it was under Bush? Obama is Bush on steroids in that regard. Otherwise they’re much the same.
    I think someone is toying with the American people.

  • Rasmussen’s Janitor

    Though it is above my pay grade to read things, I did see this on another post here:

    I have been listening to a faint whisper from supporters of “Icarus” admitting that Blame it on Bush is not working anymore for them.  Some are understanding that anyone taking over a company or a country, for that matter, inherits all that came with it.  The DOW and NASDAQ crashed by record levels the year before Bush took office.  Then he had 911 thata can be blamed on many administrations before him.  Carter inherited a country that no longer trusted DC, after Watergate.  I am still not convinced that President Obama has the core qualities we expect in a leader and, though I hoped he would grow into the job, he has not demonstrated to me that he has the ability to understand what a president does for a country.

  • robb

    Guest, The surest way to tell if Obama is lying is if you see his lips moving, He is lying. 

  • Steel Magnolia

    “There is no way on the planet you were ever a Democrat if you are associated with this completely bias website. Democrats don’t need people like you, if you just run and are afraid to take on big important issues like healthcare, the environment and fixing the economy.”

    Is that you, Donna Bradzilla?  Cause like a lot of other former 30 year Democrats, I listened to you when you said my party didn’t need me anymore during the primaries and I shut the door on you!!!!  You’re not the party of JFK anymore who said “Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what YOU can do for your country!”  I refuse to be a part of left wing radicals, so you BETCHA there are a lot of former Democrats here on this website.  YOUR party just doesn’t want to believe that we’re here!

  • FLDemFem

    Uh, Guest, during Clinton’s impeachment hearings his approval rating was 60%. I wonder what Obama’s will be when he is impeached? Not half as good, I am sure.

  • FLDemFem

    If Obama said the sun rose in the East, I would get up at sunrise to make sure. He simply isn’t trustworthy. He lies, he lies, he lies.

  • Babs

    The Obama saga reminds me of those “True Crime” dramas where a snake oil salesman has bilked an entire community with a phony investment scheme, and afterwards the people scammed are interviewed and say things like “He was so charming, he was so believable, we never suspected a thing”, on and on ad nauseum. Barack Obama is a pathological liar, and I can only thank God that this is not our country 20 years ago, for without the internet and wonderful blogs like this, who knows how far and wide he could reach with his litany of lies. He was speaking to Democrats the other day and told them to stop watching cable news and to ignore the blogs. Wishful thinking, Mr. President, but time to face the reality of the consequences of your lies, a nation whose trust in what you say is slowly eroding day by day. And more than any other President in my memory, you deserve every bit of that mistrust.

  • Blue Collar Hoosier

    id like to believe him.  even though i didn’t vote for him, i’d still like to see him prove me wrong – show us all something we didn’t see before.  but i just can’t trust him. too many times ive seen him lie right to the collective face of the american public… and he’s so good at it.

    im tired of the harsh criticism being leveled directly at his critics from his shills in the media.  we may not all have doctrates from harvard & yale, but it doesn’t take a prodogy to spot a scam.

    obamas numbers will continue to slide – he made sure of that when he payed lip service to us in the wake of scott browns election, and then proceeded “full speed ahead” as though nothing had happened.  they just keep telling us we don’t understand how much all this legislation will help us.

    *question:  weren’t the dem’s historically the party for the people & anti big government?  how exactly does this mix with this new phillosophy of “government should do/control everything”?

  • Blue Collar Hoosier
  • bayareavoter

    Any one of the seven dwarfs running for the Dem nomination had to know what they were getting into–except BO who thought it was just a popularity contest.

  • FranSC

    The counter argument, “the fabulous campaign he ran” – that dog doesn’t hunt either.  He ran nothing and his Chicago group didn’t do much more.  That campaign would have been available to any of the other dem candidates that the dem leadership selected.  It was ready, waiting and in place.  0bama was simply at the right place at the right times from 2004-2006 when the decision was finalized. 

    The event that clinched his ge success was on Sept. 15th, 2008, the day the banking industry started tumbling like dominos.  At that point anyone who was not a republican could win - It had nothing to do with Ronald Reagan or Barack 0bama.    

  • FranSC

    Guest, I don’t think so – “most of the ignorant people are republicans.”  As a former liberal democrat turned Independent, I’ve never seen dems be as deaf, dumb, and blind by choice (ignorant if you will) as since B0 came on the scene.  It is very much like cult hysteria with no basis that went viral.  Some are coming to their senses, but you are obviously not one of them.   You have your talking points down straight from MoveOn.org or Organizing for America, the 0bama 2012 campaign group. 

    And speaking of ignorance - today at the National Prayer Breakfast, B0 called a Navy Corpsman a “Corpse-man” – not once but 3 times!  Yes, this is the ‘brilliant’ president who people like Guest says operates in an intellectual sphere that few of us can even  comprehend.  Oh, brother.   Talk about ignorance.  Now that is ignorant in the first degree!

  • FranSC

    I think you’ve got the parties confused – it’s the 0bama maniacs who want everything for free with the republicans footing the bill for it with their high taxes for the wealthiest Americans – the ones with the money, you know, the most ignorant people alive. 

    Guest, you are late to this party.  The people on this site, for the most part, were/are Hillary supporters, definitely (were) democrats.   

  • FranSC

    Absolutely, candymarl.  Look at FDR – the one B0 most wants to be identified with – in history no less.  While FDR’s approach is controversial today, he got to work.  I’ve never read that he whined about the mess Hoover left him like the depression, no less.  I recall my mother saying many times that within several months you could tell things were better. 

    We, on the other hand, have a neopyte, no experience dem president that can’t get anything done even with a majority dem congress who thinks blaming Bush will get B0 and them excused. 

  • ~~JustMe~~

    “The CBO says the stimulus saved or created 1.6 million jobs”

    saved or created?????? what was it….

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Hey Guest and this site don’t need people like you insulting a regular here so go sling your hook!

    and it’s folk like you that want to share everyone elses wealth…

  • confused American

    Hey I’m trying to figure out how I made 1500 less this year but paid more in state taxes and the same in Federal Taxes.
    DId someone say that taxes went down???? If so someone needs to tell the IRS and state tax collectors.

  • timmy

    drugs over dose

  • PizzaDriver

    word, Steel; i’ve heard that sentiment from a lot of the kool-aid-heads – that PUMAS or any dem who doesn’t worship Zero unconditionally were never really dems.  jeezus christ.  i wonder if they really believe that or if they’re just saying it.  if they actually believe it, they have completely lost touch with rationality.  wouldn’t be surprised.

  • Steve1

    “Where are the jobs??  Where is legitmate assistence for  home foreclosures for middle class Americans?

  • Steve1

    Guest..Funny you should mention BS!  Yes, Americans have had enouh of it!  Where are the jobs?..plus, stop your BS with “you  wouldn’t mind that our  taxs go up?”  What type of moron are you?  Are you writing your talking points from a Barry Soetoro wed site?

  • Steve1

    Guest…Don’t you get it?  Blaming Bush doesn’t work anymore??  How ignorant can you be?  With Dems like you, “no wonder we are in trouble?”  Clinton, 2012!  Dump the lazy incompetent teteprompter reader! For our country’s sake….

  • Steve1

    What can we expect from a President and his supporters who have spend over 1.7 million  in  court fees, preventing the release of his original BC??????  Which president has never released their educational transcripts? 

    We do all remember when the corrupt bieased corporate controlled media, hounded the Clinton’s into releasing the Bill Clinton foundation financial records?  Their Income Taxes?  Where’ the word from the corporate controlled MSM regarding Barry Soetoro’s Educational records?  His original BC?  

  • FLDemFem

    “this is the ‘brilliant’ president who people like Guest says operates in an intellectual sphere that few of us can even  comprehend.”

    That’s a fact, most of us can’t comprehend that level of stupidity and ignorance.

  • Anonymous

    Great… well lets see what Obama ratings will be when he is finishing off his second term and the economy has recovered and we are out of Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Clinton’s ratings were just as bad as Obama’s in his first year and in fact as stated above his ratings fell below 50% quicker in his first year than obama’s did.

    Clinton was trashed just like you guys trash Obama, but once he had time to turn things around, as Obama is doing, his ratings went up, like Obama’s will.

  • Anonymous

    It was both. Read the article and CBO report. ie. if there was no stimulus according to the CBO there would be another 1.6 million jobs lost in this country to add to the 7 million jobs already lost during the Bush recession. The country would be far worse off without the stimulus. Get your head out of your ass and read some of the economic analysis instead of just spouting off for the sake of trashing Obama.

    See: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/69923-cbo-stimulus-saved-or-created-as-many-as-16m-jobs  

  • Anonymous

    The only cult hysteria I see are from the kinds of people who hang around NQ. You represent the cult hysteria of trashing Obama for everything with most of it fairly illogical. Trashing for the sake of trashing. Few argue the actual merits of the policy, but rather make personal attacks and other BS. And if anyone challenges you on the facts it either gets personal or NQ people fly off on some kind fo hysteria tangent. The cult hysteria is also in picking up some completely one-sided republican or conservative talking point and running with it. That is really all you people and bloggers do here on NQ.

  • Anonymous

    Big deal!

  • FLDemFem

    Obama doesn’t have policies, all he has is speeches with no implementation. He leaves all policy matters to Pelosi and Reid. And as for cult hysteria, why do you object to the very thing that got him elected in the first place?? Oh, I see, it’s not in support of him, and therefore it’s bad. Well, we are tired of incompetence, we are tired of his perpetual campaign, and we are tired of being talked down to and looked down on. In other words, we are tired of Obama. And if you had any sense, you would be too.

  • Anonymous

    FranSC,

    I have been looking at this website off and on since the beginning before Johnson went on his I hate Obama tangent…. it was a reasonably good security, foreign policy, CIA and etc. website. Today it is just a trash obama all the time website full of nutters.

    I don’t doubt there are hillary and ex-dem supporters on here, but also now NQ is full of right wing nuts, crazies, conspiracy nutters and etc. etc.

    Not much intelligent discussion. Just a bunch of personal attacks. If you try and discuss the merits of the policy, the facts, etc. you generally get shouted down by a bunch of angry people. Not much logic here these days and the depth of the site’s official posters is not that deep, as they most regurgitate one-side right-wing talking points or piece with little original work. They just add to and re-enforce the right-wing media echo chamber. All for the sake of trashing Obama no matter what.

    As for your comment about Republicans footing the bill and Dems want everything for free, where exactly is your proof of that.

    The reality is that democratic presidents have lower debt per GDP in every democratic presidency going back to WWII. Only Eisenhower on the Republican side lower debt per GDP, with both Bushes and Reagan exploding the debt per GDP. The history says that it is republicans that spend there way with big deficits into growth and it is the Democrats that have to come in an clean up the debt mess left by republicans. Go read the history. So I would suggest the actual evidence shows that it is the Republicans that want everything for free and it is the democrats that have to eventually find a way to pay for it. Democrats have always been way more fiscally conservative than Republicans.

    Just look at Bush. He funded two wars without paying for them. He even went further by cutting taxes for the most wealthy during a time of war. That has never been done before. No president has ever cut taxes during a time of war. The tax cut or the wars were not paid for. What did we get for the bush tax cuts. Zero. No jobs were created during the bush years, even though defense spending went through the roof. No trickle down. Zero. Bush also rolled out a trillion dollar prescription drug bill which essentially subsidized big pharma whuich was also not paid for. 

    According to the CBO the 2009 budget deficit expected before Obama even came on the scene was $1.2 trillion with deficit projected far into the future. Obama has had to come in and not only fix the worst recession since the great depresssion, but also fix a massive govt budget deficit that was handed to him by Bush. 

  • FLDemFem

    Guest, Obama has tripled the deficit in the first year he has been in office. He has run up more debt in a year than Bush did in 8 years. Not that I am a fan of Bush, but fair is fair. Obama can’t blame his problems on someone who has been out of office for a year while all Obama has done is run around the country giving speeches. Do tell that incompetent fool that the campaign is OVER, and that it’s time to buckle down and do the job he paid $750 million of other people’s money to get. You keep talking about his “inherited” problems, he didn’t inherit them, he begged for them, for months and months, and cheated to get them. So now that he got the job, he should do it instead of blaming everyone but himself for his inability to do so.

  • FLDemFem

    Second term?? ROFLMAO… he won’t get a second term, he will be lucky if he gets to finish the first one. He has already said he would rather be a “good one term president than a mediocre two-term president”. Now if only he can manage to be a mediocre one term president instead of the disaster president he is.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, we should blame bush. He is the reason we are were we are at today. He is the reason for the recession and the big budget deficits. Obama is trying to fix Bush’s mess.

    If you do not want to blame bush for the recession and the deficits, then I say to you, don’t blame Obama, as he did not create the recession or the budget deficits. He is only trying to fix this mess.

    And I think Obama is doing a pretty good job at fixing the economy. We went from massive 700,000 job losses per month and a -5.4% GDP growth in the year ago fourth quarter to flat job losses and a 5.7% growth in the fourth quarter just past and today it was announced that the unemployment rate fell to 9.7%. A pretty remarkable turnaround. The economy is moving in the right direction under Obama. Argue all you want about the personal attributes of Obama that you detest, but he is getting the job done.

    “    Feb. 5 (Bloomberg) — The unemployment rate in the U.S.
    unexpectedly declined in January to 9.7 percent, the lowest
    evel since August, while payrolls dropped as companies boosted
    orker hours and overtime instead of taking on new hires.”

  • Anonymous

    Steve1,

    Yes, we should blame bush. He is the reason we are were we are at today. He is the reason for the recession and the big budget deficits. Obama is trying to fix Bush’s mess.  
     
    If you do not want to blame bush for the recession and the deficits, then I say to you, don’t blame Obama, as he did not create the recession or the budget deficits. He is only trying to fix this mess.  
     
    And I think Obama is doing a pretty good job at fixing the economy. We went from massive 700,000 job losses per month and a -5.4% GDP growth in the year ago fourth quarter to flat job losses and a 5.7% growth in the fourth quarter just past and today it was announced that the unemployment rate fell to 9.7%. A pretty remarkable turnaround. The economy is moving in the right direction under Obama. Argue all you want about the personal attributes of Obama that you detest, but he is getting the job done.  
     
     
    “    Feb. 5 (Bloomberg) — The unemployment rate in the U.S.  
    unexpectedly declined in January to 9.7 percent, the lowest  
    evel since August, while payrolls dropped as companies boosted  
    orker hours and overtime instead of taking on new hires.”
     

  • Anonymous

    FL DemFem,

    How do you figure Obama has tripled or run up more debt in a hear than Bush did in 8 years. Please show me the link.

    The debt went from $4 trillion to $8 trillion under Bush.  In January 2009, before Obama was even inaugurated the CBO was expecting the deficit to be $1.2 trillion, based on Bushes budget. The single largest cause of the deficit was the Bush recession (probably responsible for 40% of the deficit as federal tax dollars fell). So how can you say Obama ran up the deficit when the CBO says it was going to happen before Obama was even president. The actual 2009 deficit was $1.4 trillion. So maybe Obama added $200 billion or 15% to the deficit in his first year, as the he spent on the stimulus to increase job growth. Out of just over $400 mm of actual spending in the stimulus well under $200 billion of it spent in 2009. The rest will come in 2010.

    I suggest you do a little reading and familiarize yourself with what is economically actually going on.

    Take a look at these links:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/10/business/economy/10leonhardt.html?hp

    For the three month period which ended in June, the Economic Policy Institute announced the Obama stimulus measures overall added “up to 3 full percentage points of annualized growth in the quarter.” For its part, the Wall Street Journal in September agreed with that assessment:

    “Many forecasters say stimulus spending is adding two to three percentage points to economic growth in the second and third quarters, when measured at an annual rate. The impact in the second quarter, calculated by analyzing how the extra funds flowing into the economy boost consumption, investment and spending, helped slow the rate of decline and will lay the groundwork for positive growth in the third quarter — something that seemed almost implausible just a few months ago. Some economists say the 1% contraction in the second quarter would have been far worse, possibly as much as 3.2%, if not for the stimulus.”

    On Monday, the USA Today panel of economists concurred.

    “Unemployment would have hit 10.8% — higher than December’s 10% rate — without Obama’s $787 billion stimulus program, according to the economists’ median estimate. The difference would translate into another 1.2 million lost jobs.

    But almost two-thirds of the economists said the government should do more to spur job growth. Suggestions included suspending payroll taxes for Social Security and Medicare, increasing spending on infrastructure, enacting a flat tax on income and extending jobless benefits.”

    Importantly, as ProPublica documented in its recovery tracking project, only a fraction of the stimulus pot has been spent to date. As of January 25, 2010, only $172 billion of the program budget had spent so far with another $157 billion in process, leaving $251 billion in remaining funding. Meanwhile, by ProPublica’s accounting, $93 billion in ARRA tax cuts have been paid out, with another $119 billion still to come.

  • Anonymous

    FLDemFem,

    It is absolutely incorrect to say as you do “Obama has tripled the deficit in the first year he has been in office. He has run up more debt in a year than Bush did in 8 years.” Where is your proof of this.

    Bush actually took the total debt from $4 trillion to $8 trillion and left the massive 2009 deficit. The deficit was already going to be there before Obama was even sworn in.

    Lets let the non-partisan CBO speak to your point about the 2009 deficit.

    From the January 2009 CBO report before Obama: “CBO projects that the deficit this year will total  $1.2 trillion, or 8.3 percent of GDP.”  
     
     http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9957/01-07-Outlook.pdf    
     
     That means that almost the entire increase in the deficit to $1.2 trillion was under Bush’s watch; ie. it was expected to go up to $1.2 trillion before Obama was even on the scene or was sworn in or made any proposals and does not include stimulus or anything else from Obama.  

    The actual deficit for 2009 came in at $1.4 trillion. So you can say the Obama increased it by $200 billion from the original $1.2 trillion CBO expectation, that came before Obama was even president.

    The the stimulus was money that went into what Obama added to the deficit, he added only about 15% to the 2009 deficit, was well spent. See my comment below.

  • Anonymous

    FLDemFem,

    The stimulus was not a waste of money. It is doing exactly what it was suppose to do. You are suppose to run up deficit in downturns and then pay them off in upturns.

    For the three month period which ended in June, the Economic Policy Institute announced the Obama stimulus measures overall added “up to 3 full percentage points of annualized growth in the quarter.” For its part, the Wall Street Journal in September agreed with that assessment:

    “Many forecasters say stimulus spending is adding two to three percentage points to economic growth in the second and third quarters, when measured at an annual rate. The impact in the second quarter, calculated by analyzing how the extra funds flowing into the economy boost consumption, investment and spending, helped slow the rate of decline and will lay the groundwork for positive growth in the third quarter — something that seemed almost implausible just a few months ago. Some economists say the 1% contraction in the second quarter would have been far worse, possibly as much as 3.2%, if not for the stimulus.”

    On Monday, the USA Today panel of economists concurred.

    “Unemployment would have hit 10.8% — higher than December’s 10% rate — without Obama’s $787 billion stimulus program, according to the economists’ median estimate. The difference would translate into another 1.2 million lost jobs.

    But almost two-thirds of the economists said the government should do more to spur job growth. Suggestions included suspending payroll taxes for Social Security and Medicare, increasing spending on infrastructure, enacting a flat tax on income and extending jobless benefits.”

    Importantly, as ProPublica documented in its recovery tracking project, only a fraction of the stimulus pot has been spent to date. As of January 25, 2010, only $172 billion of the program budget had spent so far with another $157 billion in process, leaving $251 billion in remaining funding. Meanwhile, by ProPublica’s accounting, $93 billion in ARRA tax cuts have been paid out, with another $119 billion still to come.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    hey insult ass my head is no where near my ass I am looking with wide open eyes thank you! I have a good understanding of what has been lost this past 18months so stick your preaching where the sun don’t shine. Obama chose a job where he knew he would be bashed and show me where I bashed your man???? I never mentioned Obama in a post???? Looks like an eye test is in order!
    You swan in here and feel you can insult and bash regular posters and we have to listen to your dribble? You’re no guest here, one thing I have never done is use bad language often here but fuck you guest and the donkey you rode in on!

  • PortiaElizabeth

    Didn’t you hear? He’s having a Super Bowl Party?

  • PortiaElizabeth

    Guest — if you’re the same “guest” who’s been commenting on this thread since last night, I must ask you why you’re here. Did you come with the intent to pick a fight? You seem to only be interested in adversarial replies to other comments. You ask for facts and when presented with them, you deny. What then is your point in staying?

    If you are indeed the same guest as above, then let me give you one big fat elephant-in-the-room lie that BO told on his inauguration day. He said Gitmo would be closed within the year. A year has come and gone, guest.

    Or how about this one? Jobless rates will not go above 8%. Remember that one?

    Do you need more?

  • Ellie Light.

    Guest -
    Is your name Ellie?

    What a coincidence, so is mine! :-P

  • PA Caucasian

    No I think it was the beard dye that poisoned his cerebral cortex.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry if reality hurts… if Johnson wants to blast his views and all this anti obama  garbage to the world.. then you and he should be willing to stand up to a little critisim. something that NQ and people like you are good at…. critizing…

  • Docelder

    It was both? The jobles number was just revised the other day adding another roughly 800,000. So, were those 800,000 less jobs saved? Or 800,000 less jobs created? So, this comes off his 1.6 million and cuts it by half… right? Or are we in for some more creative new age math?

  • Docelder

    Maybe Obama being President for a year made us all rich? Wow, we are all rich now and didn’t even know it. Just like the strate of the union speech… he already did save us and just never stopped to tell us about it. We were “at the brink”. If we were at the brink two years ago surely now we are still falling off it.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Well said Doc….

  • ~~JustMe~~

    criticism is completely different than insulting and spewing stupid ass remarks telling people here what to do.
    Where is your head may I ask?

  • MBC

    C-SPAN, Campaign Finance, Gitmo, FISA, IRAQ, LIAR.

  • bamaLV

    dear god are we going to have to listen to obama campaigning next year (for 2012) ? has he ever really stopped? what could he possibly campaign on?  all of his “accomplishments”?  how much he’s done for the country (im gagging just typing it)?how many jobs he’s created? how good the economy is?  how he ended the war in iraq? how he closed gitmo?  how he has united the country (im gagging again)?  what?  oh right..he can campaign against bush.(again).

  • bamaLV

    i also changed from dem. to ind. because of obama.  not too crazy about the repubs. either and hope they dont  put up any of the old familiar faces in 2012. no gingrich, no mccann, no bobby jindahl,(you get my point). we need a fresh face who is not beholden to anyone, owes no favors, and is not a party puppet.  if the repubs put up someone like that..they have a good chance of winning. if they give us another tiresome old partisan hack..they are done.maybe they should think of grooming someone like scott brown.

  • bamaLV

    and obama thinks he has’nt talked to us (or down to us) enough!!!  dear god my eyes and ears are already bleeding from his overexposure. i cannot stand the way he looks down his nose when speaking , like the rest of us smell but i think its his own sulpher he’s smelling.   the WH will have to be fumigated when these 2 leave..which cant be soon enough.

  • Steve1

    Obama continued the bailouts from the Bush admistration….where is the  legitmate assstence for middle class homeowners are are out of a jobs and near foreclosure?  Don’t spout out statistics regarding
    job growth when you can walk around the block and see the unemployed and underempolyed?  Where are the jobs which last and have nmeaningful pay scales?  All that stimulas funding and all you can quote, “We slowed the lost of jobs?”  Bullshit!  Stop the blind talking points-Moron, Americans don’t want the same old BS!  No more sweetheart deals with insurance and pharm companies and than claim that it is a win, win for the public!  Bullshit!

  • Sharon

    HIS MEDICAL RECORDS!

  • arabella trefoil

    It doesn’t hurt. But your comments are like shit on a shoe – annoying, smelly, worthless. But I have lots of paper towels, lots of soap and water, and an infinity worth of patience.

    Don’t for one moment think you cause me any pain. I laugh at you, actually. You should be in a zoo. You are one of the last of the old time Obots.