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For liberals, the observation that “the peasants are revolting” is a pun. – Charles Krauthammer

Charles Krauthammer wrote a wonderful piece titled “The Great Peasant Revolt.” He explains how he thinks Obama politics got where it is today. It’s a short piece and to the point. Worth your time. I think Krauthammer is getting weary of all the “but they’re all so STUPID” wails from the progressives. Would you agree?

Liberal expressions of disdain for the intelligence and emotional maturity of the electorate have been, post-Massachusetts, remarkably unguarded. New York Times columnist Charles Blow chided Obama for not understanding the necessity of speaking “in the plain words of plain folks,” because the people are “suspicious of complexity.” Counseled Blow: “The next time he gives a speech, someone should tap him on the ankle and say, ‘Mr. President, we’re down here.’ ”

A Time magazine blogger was even more blunt about the ankle-dwelling mob, explaining that we are “a nation of dodos” that is “too dumb to thrive.”

Obama joined the parade in the State of the Union address when, with supercilious modesty, he chided himself “for not explaining it [health care] more clearly to the American people.” The subject, he noted, was “complex.” The subject, it might also be noted, was one to which the master of complexity had devoted 29 speeches. Perhaps he did not speak slowly enough.
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That brings us to Part 2 of the liberal conceit: Liberals act in the public interest, while conservatives think only of power, elections, self-aggrandizement and self-interest.
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This belief in the moral hollowness of conservatism animates the current liberal mantra that Republican opposition to Obama’s social democratic agenda — which couldn’t get through even a Democratic Congress and powered major Democratic losses in New Jersey, Virginia and Massachusetts — is nothing but blind and cynical obstructionism.

By contrast, Democratic opposition to George W. Bush — from Iraq to Social Security reform — constituted dissent. And dissent, we were told at the time, including by candidate Obama, is “one of the truest expressions of patriotism.”

No more. Today, dissent from the governing orthodoxy is nihilistic malice. “They made a decision,” explained David Axelrod, “they were going to sit it out and hope that we failed, that the country failed” — a perfect expression of liberals’ conviction that their aspirations are necessarily the country’s, that their idea of the public good is the public’s, that their failure is therefore the nation’s.
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For liberals, the observation that “the peasants are revolting” is a pun. For conservatives, it is cause for uncharacteristic optimism. No matter how far the ideological pendulum swings in the short term, in the end the bedrock common sense of the American people will prevail.

Commentary, citing Krauthammer’s column as well, sees a coming clash between those peasants and the Obama government.

Where this is heading is a collision of great magnitude. One cannot consider the electorate to be a bunch of rubes and get away with it for very long. One can’t pursue an agenda that the public disdains and get re-elected.
. . . . But the rubes organized — in town halls and in Tea Parties — and they turned out to vote in New Jersey, Virginia, and Massachusetts. So the window of opportunity shut faster than they imagined.

Anyone who saw Obama during the primaries, in particular, should never have been surprised that “middle America” was beneath him – one of many reasons he put me off. TNR, recognizing this, casts it in a “but he’s from Mars” sense. In other words, Obama’s just different and we don’t communicate; so well, bummer, but he’s still great.

Here is a fact: Barack Obama has trouble generating enthusiasm among white working class voters. That’s not because they are white. He would have had trouble winning support among black working class voters if they had been unable to identify with him because he was black. He has trouble with working class voters because he appears to them as coming from a different world, a different realm of experience, a different class, if you like. And that’s because he does.

Er, right. Obama’s a Lightbringer, too. At least TNR doesn’t blame it all on racism. Obama’s different than you and me. For sure. But that’s a FEATURE, not a deficiency, you know. Here’s why:

There is no paradox, therefore, in Obama’s distance from white working class voters. What would be unusual is if he were able to echo their concerns in a deeply moving rather than in a somewhat mechanical way.
Yes, there have been some gifted politicians of an upper class or professional background who have been able to do so. Some, like Bill Clinton, Lyndon Johnson, or Ronald Reagan, could draw upon their working class childhoods; others, like Franklin Roosevelt or Edward Kennedy, could evince a kind of upper-class paternalism. This made them great politicians.
It didn’t necessarily make them great men or great Americans. Barack Obama is, by any fair measure, a great American, and he could turn out to be a great president. But he is not yet a great politician. He has not been able to transcend the political limits of his own social background. And that has been one of his problems as he attempts to extricate America from the mess he inherited.

Ewwww. Talk about making a virtue out of necessity.

WaPo takes up the whole “condescension” issue when discussing liberals and conservatives and comes to the same conclusion as Krauthammer.

But, if conservative leaders are crass manipulators, then the rank-and-file Americans who support them must be manipulated at best, or stupid at worst. This is the second variety of liberal condescension, exemplified in Thomas Frank’s best-selling 2004 book, “What’s the Matter With Kansas?” Frank argued that working-class voters were so
distracted by issues such as abortion that they were induced into voting against their own economic interests.
Then-Vermont Gov. Howard Dean, later chairman of the Democratic National Committee, echoed that theme in his 2004 presidential run, when he said Republicans had succeeded in getting Southern whites to focus on “guns, God and gays” instead of economic redistribution.

And speaking to a roomful of Democratic donors in 2008, then-presidential candidate Obama offered a similar (and infamous) analysis when he suggested that residents of Rust Belt towns “cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations” about job losses.
When his comments became public, Obama backed away from their tenor but insisted that “I said something that everybody knows is true.”

In this view, we should pay attention to conservative voters’ underlying problems but disregard the policy demands they voice; these are illusory, devoid of reason or evidence. This form of liberal condescension implies that conservative masses are in the grip of false consciousness. When they express their views at town hall meetings or “tea party” gatherings, it might be politically prudent for liberals to hear them out, but there is no reason to actually listen.

But remember that not only are these peasants, well, peasants, but remember that they’re racists too. . .

The third version of liberal condescension points to something more sinister. In his 2008 book, “Nixonland,” progressive writer Rick Perlstein argued that Richard Nixon created an enduring Republican strategy of mobilizing the ethnic and other resentments of some Americans against others.
Similarly, in their 1992 book, “Chain Reaction,” Thomas Byrne Edsall and Mary D. Edsall argued that Nixon and Reagan talked up crime control, low taxes and welfare reform to cloak racial animus and help make it mainstream. It is now an article of faith among many liberals that Republicans win elections because they tap into white prejudice against blacks and immigrants.

Race doubtless played a significant role in the shift of Deep South whites to the Republican Party during and after the 1960s. But the liberal narrative has gone essentially unchanged since then — recall former president Carter’s recent assertion that opposition to Obama reflects racism —
even though survey research has shown a dramatic decline in prejudiced attitudes among white Americans in the intervening decades. Moreover, the candidates and policy agendas of both parties demonstrate an unfortunate willingness to play on prejudices, whether based on race, regional stereotypes, class and income, or other factors.

And the sun comes up in the east. Yeah, we know.

WaPo also notes a star in the progressive blogosphere and his contribution to civil discourse on this matter:

Markos Moulitsas, publisher of the influential progressive Web site Daily Kos, commissioned a poll, which he released this month, designed to show how many rank-and-file Republicans hold odd or conspiratorial beliefs — including 23 percent who purportedly believe that their states should secede from the Union.
Moulitsas concluded that Republicans are “divorced from reality” and that the results show why “it is impossible for elected Republicans to work with Democrats to improve our country.” His condescension is superlative: Of the respondents who favored secession, he wonders, “Can we cram them all into the Texas Panhandle, create the state of Dumb-[expletive]-istan, and build a wall around them to keep them from coming into America illegally?”

I have no idea where these people get the idea that listening to others is optional, that they are morally superior, and that anyone who disagrees is a lesser species. Their current attitude reminds me of the pigs in Animal Farm (you know, Progressives – Good; Anyone else – BAD). But Orwell left it there. I think, had the story continued, those pigs would eventually have said something like “Let them eat cake.”

And I bet, ultimately, those pigs would have been ham.

  • ciic
  • Ani

    Superb article, LisaB.

    Here is what the pundit class does not want to acknowledge about President Obama — it is not that he is speaking at a level too high for us to understand, but rather that he is doing what he has always done — he speaks in word salad, so that nothing concrete can ever be pinned to him.  He is forever addicted to trying to win over every audience by sounding like he agrees with everyone while committing to nothing.  That is one reason why his hundreds of speeches have not adequately explained his health care plan. 

    He likes to sound like he is saying something meaningful with poll tested phraseology — nothing is from his heart.  Juts from the Teleprompter concocted in the main by others whose overriding agenda is his success — not the success of his policies in terms of the good they can generate for the Amreican people.

    The second reason is that the plan is not really his, as he outsources everything, so he is not driving the agenda, just selling it.  Since he does not believe in it or have particular passion for it, he is incapable of explaining it.

    The third explanation of course is that the plan is not all it is cracked up to be and if he explained it honestly, then people really wouldn’t want it.  Witness his admission in front of the Republicans last Friday that the claim Dems made that you could keep your own doctor on this health care plan was false.  He admitted it!  Where is the outrage?

    CK’s “the peasants are revolting” line is priceless — and the fact that it is a pun to liberals is absolutely true.  I can’t tell you how many in coastal states think everyone else are the “flyover people” — and are wholly ignorant.

    I will say however, that both parties are guilty of this in their own way — this elitism, the “we know what’s best for you little girl/boy, so sit down and shut up” attitude is rampant.  As is the herd mentality in both parties.  I’m glad to see more people are getting involved and not putting up with this crap.

  • Mary cusack

    spammy strikes again. come see my new fashions….. PAY FOR YOUR ADVERTISING.

  • I’m a Linda too

    Oh yes.  And that’s about the only few supports left on Dem for Am blog.  And it’s amazing, how ignorant and gullable THEY are, while they claim superiority and talk down and name call all others.  It’s almost laughable.  You read what the very few supporters are left say and you wonder who is behind those words.  Are they really adults?  They are the perfect example of “give enough rope and they’ll hang themselves”.

  • Yttik

    Great article and oh, so true. I’m a liberal or I used to be anyway, and I still can’t tell you where the elitism, the condescension, comes from. It’s always been there and it’s pissed me off before, but it’s gotten really bad since the Age of Obama.

    He ticked me off with his Las Vegas lecture (he ticked a lot of people off), but what made me mad was the condescension, the patronizing, the complete disconnect from the reality of people’s lives. We down here, the little people, are not going to Vegas or buying boats while skipping out on our mortgages. In fact, most of the time we aren’t doing those things even when the economy is booming. Most of us are building those damn boats, working at those tables and bars and hotels.

  • lark

    Lisa, your title is ingenious. It explains why Obama is winning and Krauthammer and the rest are loosing.

    Eat is a daily activity and Obama comes out daily with food to eat.

    Organic is a set of complex interrelationships of similar carbon molecules embeded in rigid arrid environments. Obama is rich in inter-relating and correlating modalities of similar classes one with another and juxtapoxing them in rigid environments that become perplexed and confused by the details. Is funny to see Krauthammer perplexed daily by Obama’s handling of so many diverse subjects.

    And Arugula is a perishable vegetable that essentially wilts quickly in the natural environment and is only kept fresh by tossing it in olive oil. So most all of the pundits and enemies Obama has can count only on the fact that each issue they bring against Obama dies quickly in just a few hours.

    Newspapers are dead in this Obama world. The issues are as vacuous as a Haitian corpse by the next day when the newspaper is read. And the blogosphere and internet gets totally neutralized because their conversations are as pershible as Arugula under the sunshine.

    Obama is the owner of the day – day after day – and so far there is no one that can even come close to competing. Actually even Jon Stewart (whom I don’t even watch anymore) and the comedians are not able to get ahead of him. Something remarkable considering than they obliterated Bush on a continous relentless daily process.

    Obama is America’s daddy – indisputable.

    Now that doesn’t mean that I am happy about it or that I don’t believe he is poison. Eat Organic Arugula daily but if it is poisonous arugula then you know that the end of democracy can come with a sudden attack.

  • lark

    Lisa, your title is ingenious. It explains why Obama is winning and Krauthammer and the rest are losing.

    Eat is a daily activity and Obama comes out daily with food to eat.

    Organic is a set of complex interrelationships of similar carbon molecules embeded in rigid arrid environments. Obama is rich in inter-relating and correlating modalities of similar classes one with another and juxtapoxing them in rigid environments that become perplexed and confused by the details. Is funny to see Krauthammer perplexed daily by Obama’s handling of so many diverse subjects.

    And Arugula is a perishable vegetable that essentially wilts quickly in the natural environment and is only kept fresh by tossing it in olive oil. So most all of the pundits and enemies Obama has can count only on the fact that each issue they bring against Obama dies quickly in just a few hours.

    Newspapers are dead in this Obama world. The issues are as vacuous as a Haitian corpse by the next day when the newspaper is read. And the blogosphere and internet gets totally neutralized because their conversations are as pershible as Arugula under the sunshine.

    Obama is the owner of the day – day after day – and so far there is no one that can even come close to competing. Actually even Jon Stewart (whom I don’t even watch anymore) and the comedians are not able to get ahead of him. Something remarkable considering than they obliterated Bush on a continous relentless daily process.

    Obama is America’s daddy – indisputable.

    Now that doesn’t mean that I am happy about it or that I don’t believe he is poison. Eat Organic Arugula daily but if it is poisonous arugula then you know that the end of democracy can come with a sudden attack.

  • Anonymous

    The problem with the ideolog Krauthammer is two fold.

    What peasants is he talking about? A certain kind I suspect.

    And all this is funny coming from a member of the conservative elite who could not give a rats ass about the working man. Mister tax cut for the rich, as the divide between the rich and poor grew astronmically wider under the policies he supports, pushes and help put in place and more and more people live and die without healthcare.

    What did Kruthammer and his ilk do for the “peasant” while they were in power? zero… they just made it worse for the working man. There policies got our young men and women killed for meaningless war and put millions in the unemployment line with the Bush recession and put our children into debt with their large debts and deficits. And now we have to clean up the mess left by guys like Kruthammer as they preach some kind of moral authority.

    Krauthammer you are one to talk you prick!!!!

  • Anonymous

    The problem with the ideolog Krauthammer is two fold.

    What peasants is he talking about? A certain kind I suspect.

    And all this is funny coming from a member of the conservative elite who could not give a rats ass about the working man. Mister tax cut for the rich, as the divide between the rich and poor grew astronmically wider under the policies he supports, pushes and help put in place and more and more people live and die without healthcare.

    What did Kruthammer and his ilk do for the “peasant” while they were in power? zero… they just made it worse for the working man. There policies got our young men and women killed for meaningless war and put millions in the unemployment line with the Bush recession and put our children into debt with their large debts and deficits. And now we have to clean up the mess left by guys like Kruthammer, as they preach some kind of moral authority.

    Krauthammer you are one to talk you prickkk!!!!

  • Geoff Kucera

    Ani wrote: “it is not that he is speaking at a level too high for us to understand, but rather that he is doing what he has always done — he speaks in word salad

    Within the last couple weeks, I read a wonderful deconstruction of Obama’s speeches.  Unfortunately, I cannot remember where or I would provide the link.  In particular, it revealed that Obama never says anything memorable in his speeches, they are completely devoid of any hook for the listener to recall anything he says.

    The hook is a mental device used to organize facts and provide a conclusive focus to speech.  Think of Reagan’s tear down this wall, JFK’s ask not what your country can do and FDR’s you have nothing to fear.  These hooks recall the thrust of the speech.

    After any major speech of his, people I know remark on how well it sounded (did you hear Obama last night”  wow!) but when asked they cannot recall anything he said of importance to them.  As my personal experience recounted on earlier threads has indicated, they can even deny the contents of the speech in the presence of a written transcript available for proof.

  • FLDemFem

    Mr. Krauthammer should learn the difference between a pun and a double entendre.

  • ogee

    I always liked your threads Lisa and haven’t read them in a while. Now can anyone give feedback on this since the peasants started the Tea Parties.
    If you don’t mind, Republicans had lost their mojo and were wiped out totally when the disenfranchised dem bloggers and Palin supporters and Pumas formed the Tea Party Movement naming it after the Boston Tea Party and decided to hold rallies dumping tea bags into the rivers as a symbol of being fed up. We immediately went to our Republican and Indy blogger friends to join us as a non partisan group so we could all support each other in this terrible dilemna of an usurper being in office and to protest Government take over. We disenfranchised dems had just been through hell and horrified when our candidate won but was kicked out by party boss fascists so we disenfranchised dems decided to teach the Republicans what was really going on and how to fight back. Thus the Tea Party was born. Now the news says it all conservatives and was started by convervatives for conservatives. Heck we even invited Ron Paul supporters and there are stories now that they started the Tea Party. Not true. It was started by Pumas and Palin supporters period! So now that the Tea party is all conservatives when it was designed to be non partisan and for patriots everywhere, where do the disenfranchised dems go? Will our voice be heard? We are patriots. Many support Palin. We are in the millions! What now? We did foresee the takeover of our Tea Party by Republicans and tried to avoid it stressing NON PARTISAN and not allowing pundits or people in Government to speak at our rallies. You can’t win without the disenfranchised dems, Pumas and Indies. Don’t tread on us. We are seasoned activists. Now what? Pumas? Disenfranchised dems? Thoughts on this? It’s a tad bit disturbing that our non partisan Patriot Tea Party has been taken over by the conservative Republicans and is now partisan. Where do the rest of us go now? Correct me if I’m wrong but my memory serves me right aswe began to form the Tea Party Movement.
    Go here to see Tea Party live which is no longer non partisan but all Republican.
    http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=page&page-id=148

  • AC

    I remember “typical white person” hook–but it was/is hardly inspirational.

  • TeakWoodKite

    TOTUS is stalking Guest….

  • AC

    lark, that was entertaining but the reference to Haiti is a little cold.  Why don’t you edit it.

  • AnnieCarmel

    “He likes to sound like he is saying something meaningful with poll tested phraseology — nothing is from his heart.  Juts from the Teleprompter concocted in the main by others whose overriding agenda is his success — not the success of his policies in terms of the good they can generate for the Amreican people.”

    Agreed, Ani.  Even with the teleprompter, he mispronounces.  He’s so overexposed I hit the mute button on a daily basis.  He’s still running around selling.  Sell, sell, sell.  Sort of reminds me of what they used to ask about Nixon:  “Would you buy a used car from this man?”  So far, the answer is a resounding “NO”.  In words, manner and deed he is a charleton. 

    I’m looking forward to hearing Sarah in Nashville tomorrow; I believe her speech will be on C-Span (or so I heard).   Her first show on Fox will be Sunday…sure to be energized after meeting with the Tea Partiers.

  • lark

    Lisa, your title is ingenious. It explains why Obama is winning and Krauthammer and the rest are losing.  
     
    Eat is a daily activity and Obama comes out daily with food to eat.  
     
    Organic is a set of complex interrelationships of similar carbon molecules embeded in rigid arrid environments. Obama is rich in inter-relating and correlating modalities of similar classes one with another and juxtapoxing them in rigid environments that become perplexed and confused by the details. Is funny to see Krauthammer perplexed daily by Obama’s handling of so many diverse subjects.  
     
    And Arugula is a perishable vegetable that essentially wilts quickly in the natural environment and is only kept fresh by tossing it in olive oil. So most all of the pundits and enemies Obama has can count only on the fact that each issue they bring against Obama dies quickly in just a few hours.  
     
    Newspapers are dead in this Obama world. The issues are irrelevant by the next day when the newspaper is read. And the blogosphere and internet gets totally neutralized because their conversations are as pershible as Arugula under the sunshine.  
     
    Obama is the owner of the day – day after day – and so far there is no one that can even come close to competing. Actually even Jon Stewart (whom I don’t even watch anymore) and the comedians are not able to get ahead of him. Something remarkable considering than they obliterated Bush on a continous relentless daily process.  
     
    Obama is America’s daddy – indisputable.  
     
    Now that doesn’t mean that I am happy about it or that I don’t believe he is poison. Eat Organic Arugula daily but if it is poisonous arugula then you know that the end of democracy can come with a sudden attack.

  • lark

    Lisa, your title is ingenious. It explains why Obama is winning and Krauthammer and the rest are losing.  
     
    Eat is a daily activity and Obama comes out daily with food to eat.  
     
    Organic is a set of complex interrelationships of similar carbon molecules embeded in rigid arrid environments. Obama is rich in inter-relating and correlating modalities of similar classes one with another and juxtapoxing them in rigid environments that become perplexed and confused by the details. Is funny to see Krauthammer perplexed daily by Obama’s handling of so many diverse subjects.  
     
    And Arugula is a perishable vegetable that essentially wilts quickly in the natural environment and is only kept fresh by tossing it in olive oil. So most all of the pundits and enemies Obama has can count only on the fact that each issue they bring against Obama dies quickly in just a few hours.  
     
    Newspapers are dead in this Obama world. The issues are as vacuous as a Haitian corpse by the next day when the newspaper is read. And the blogosphere and internet gets totally neutralized because their conversations are as pershible as Arugula under the sunshine.  
     
    Obama is the owner of the day – day after day – and so far there is no one that can even come close to competing. Actually even Jon Stewart (whom I don’t even watch anymore) and the comedians are not able to get ahead of him. Something remarkable considering than they obliterated Bush on a continous relentless daily process.  
     
    Obama is America’s daddy – indisputable.  
     
    Now that doesn’t mean that I am happy about it or that I don’t believe he is poison. Eat Organic Arugula daily but if it is poisonous arugula then you know that the end of democracy can come with a sudden attack.

    :)

  • lark

    Lisa, your title is ingenious. It explains why Obama is winning and Krauthammer and the rest are losing.  
     
    Eat is a daily activity and Obama comes out daily with food to eat.  
     
    Organic is a set of complex interrelationships of similar carbon molecules embeded in rigid arrid environments. Obama is rich in inter-relating and correlating modalities of similar classes one with another and juxtapoxing them in rigid environments that become perplexed and confused by the details. Is funny to see Krauthammer perplexed daily by Obama’s handling of so many diverse subjects.  
     
    And Arugula is a perishable vegetable that essentially wilts quickly in the natural environment and is only kept fresh by tossing it in olive oil. So most all of the pundits and enemies Obama has can count only on the fact that each issue they bring against Obama dies quickly in just a few hours.  
     
    Newspapers are dead in this Obama world. The issues are irrelevant by the next day when the newspaper is read. And the blogosphere and internet gets totally neutralized because their conversations are as pershible as Arugula under the sunshine.  
     
    Obama is the owner of the day – day after day – and so far there is no one that can even come close to competing. Actually even Jon Stewart (whom I don’t even watch anymore) and the comedians are not able to get ahead of him. Something remarkable considering than they obliterated Bush on a continous relentless daily process.  
     
    Obama is America’s daddy – indisputable.  
     
    Now that doesn’t mean that I am happy about it or that I don’t believe he is poison. Eat Organic Arugula daily but if it is poisonous arugula then you know that the end of democracy can come with a sudden attack.

    :)

  • lark

    What did SOS HC said today in her public appearance: Let them eat organic arugula.

  • AC

    Very entertaining lark, and I bid all of you a good evening.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Now the news says it all conservatives and was started by convervatives for conservatives. Heck we even invited Ron Paul supporters and there are stories now that they started the Tea Party. Not true.

    It is as I feared. The co-opting continues. Ogee, this is exactley what has grinding my Ax. The spontaneous momentum sapped by suckups and those who’s agenda’s are less to do with governance and more to do with selfish interests.
    I Thank you LisaB, Ani; and No Quarter for a great series of articles that expose how badly our politicals are infused with incompetent useful idiots. It burns me that I didn’t vote for this crap but will suffer the consequences. I am not “bitter” about that really, just “ballot” box angry..

    A mentally tattered Kite wishes you a big TGIF.

  • snosandy

    LOL

  • Cindy

    LisaB—Your article is put together beautifully.
    And I have to say I totally agree with Krauthammer.

  • Cindy

    Right back at ya…..Stay warm!

  • politicsisdirty

    Very good article LisaB and
    a good analysis Ani, just like the analysis of the great Charles Krauthammer.

  • Anonymous

    ” Her first show on Fox will be Sunday…”
    So, that’s why NBC News with Brian Williams had a whole segment on how Andrea Mitchell has obtained a bunch of e-mails that show that the “governor” behind the throne was…Todd Palin! Lots of innuendo of malfeasance and the not so subtle implication that he was acting as the, de facto, Gov. They called him the “Shadow Governor”! I couldn’t figure out why now…or why at all, but your post makes it clear to me now: they are trying to cut down her audience. To little avail though, I for one will be watching her.    

  • Nobama4me

    …oops, that “Guest” was me with the post on Sarah and NBC (Nothing But Crap) News.

  • AnnieCarmel

    ogee, do you say it’s all Republican because they announced they would not form a 3rd party?  I don’t know if I see it that way.  I’m with Sarah when she says her support will go to conservatives, not necessarily Republicans.  I know people are PO’d that she said she’d campaign for McCain…depends, I guess, who’s running against him.  I’m not sure McCain is going to win his seat back.  People are through with incumbents and he really made a lot of people mad when he co-authored the “immigration reform” with Kennedy…me too.  I couldn’t vote for a Dem though…after all we’d seen.  So, I’m willing to check out what’s happening after this weekend.  It’s still unfolding.

    Hillbuzz has some interesting ideas this week about Dem fundraisers.  I wonder whether any  of the workshops in Nashville will pick-up on that?

  • Timmy

    As always good job.

    Here’s a question I have about the so called educated liberals. It’s a fact that Obama was given the Dem nomination over the candiate with the most votes and not to mention the delagates given to Obama when he wasn’t on the ballot because he is black. Kerry, Nancy, Herry…. Etc are on the record now about their main reason for supporting Obama- because he is black.

    How can liberals accuse any one that’s against Obama’s policies as a rejection of Obama because he’s black..?

  • Yttik

    You’re quite correct. I suspect that’s why many of us are not enamored with Obama and never were. Others claim he’s the grestest speaker in the history of mankind. I don’t get it, who are they listening to??

    I think it has something to do with how people’s brains approach information. For me I need some substance. I try to grab something out of Obama’s speeches and there simply is nothing there. The SOTU address for example, what a bunch of contradictory gobblygook and empty words.

  • carol haka

    Correct – we are all a bunch of dumb redneck r*cists!

    Oh wait, I thought he learned us somethun with the greatest speech in the world on r*ce??????? *DONT_KNOW*

    And I guess our stupidity totally shows when we thought the word was “corpsman” and not “corpseman”.

    Like I always say, “miss charlotte, I don’t know nuttin about nuttin …..”

    CAROL HAKA

  • lark

    ogee: And your answer is: Lou Dobbs.  Now, can you tell me where is Lou Dobbs and why is he out the picture. Is he sick or is he preparing to run for President for a third party?

  • lark

    I would go for a Palin / Lou Dobbs ticket or vice versa but preferable Palin / Lou Dobbs.

  • felizarte

    so called educated liberals?

    Nah!  ”Schooled but not educated,” as an old Spanish saying goes. 

  • helenk

    backtrack could not make it at Cheers because he does not remember anybody’s name.
    We do not know if he is smart. No school records, spotty work record.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  • Chicago Joe

    Nice article.  And to respond to Ani, this is more of the same from Obama.  Do you think your average Joe like me had much contact with him when he was serving Illinois?  Heck no.  It was the movers and shakers he courted….those who could get him to where he wanted to go.  So basically he has always operated this way, and the “bitter clinger” story is really what he is about. He didn’t mispeak, but that it his heart.  He definitely thinks he is better than the average bear.

  • Chicago Joe

    Paul Ryan is one to watch.

  • Anonymous

    Because “W” was an idiot doesn’t make Obama any smarter.
    Instead as a Democrat, it appears to me we’ve elected the only man that could make George Bush look good!

  • WestVirginia304

    Liberal.  Conservative.  I don’t know

    I am too small to survive long enough to eat a plant that is not sold in WV

    My business depends on America being healthy.  That means I do not represent the companies htat are reporting to the job totals aht include the Chineese worders that got jobs to build our electrontic measurement instruments that are used to measure the life of the steel, that we bought from Japan, in the bridges that were built by undocumeted workers.

    I do not know what I am saying.  It just felt good saying it.

  • WestVirginia304

    I do not hthink I have dislexia.  But I think I have been typing too long on theis flexible keypad.  Well.  You shoud figure out what I said.

  • jwrjr

    I will borrow from Sam L. Clemens – it is not what Obama says that we don’t understand that bothers us.  It is the parts that we do understand that are troubling.

  • WestVirginia304

    OK.  Switched back to the old keyboard.  Wow.  That was some fun reading above. Good thing it (the new keyboard) did not have a mind of its own and write something smart.

  • EllenD

    Always like your comments FLDemFem.

  • WestVirginia304

    jw jr.  Will you writte the obit?  I mean policy.

  • EllenD

    Actually, I enjoyed your stream of conscious comments.

  • WestVirginia304

    Why Ryan?

  • Ani

    Yes, I think you’re right about that, which is tragic because we need someone who actually cares about the average bear — more than ever.

  • Ani

    Joe — The other thing that continually shocks me is that when I watch him speak I see the effete and arrogant nature — it is so obvious to me.  I don’t get why so many do not see this.

  • Ani

    :)

  • newyorkie

    Rahm Emanuel’s real attack was against Liberals when he called them F’n Retards.  Are the Liberals too dumb to realize that they are being used by this Administration? 

  • newyorkie

    My dream ticket would be Gingrich/Brown.  When I was a Dem I hated Newt because of his intelligence.  Now I admire him for it.  Whoever the next President is he has to hit the ground running.  We have had enough Kindergarten Con Men.  Time to get serious about our future — if want to have a future.

  • Graham

    Ever occur to you that Obama ain’t so bright? He is the driven student…..I have not once seen a hint of imagination in this man.THAT is the test of intelligence.We have a dummy on our hands!

  • AnnieCarmel

    I doubt that anyone who watches NBC is part of Sarah’s audience to begin with.  Her “audience” is independent of the MSM…that’s the point.  Really doesn’t matter what they say or try to use to slur the Palins…just more of the same.

  • kenoshamarge

    I agree about Ryan. I suspect that the Obama Administration thinks so too witness their several attacks on him recently.

    Ryan’s appearance on “Fox News Sunday” last Sunday did him no harm either because it was obvious he knew what he was talking about not just mouthing some “talking points”.

    FYI Ryan is “my” congress critter and I being in the past a completely pinheaded partisan Democrat never voted for him. I still see vast differences between my issues and his. But no more than I see between what I believe to be right and what the elite know-it-alls in the Democratic Party want to shove down my poor little peasant throat.

    Many voters are “ignorant”. That’s not the same as stupid and much of the blame for that goes to the biased and corrupt power-sharing media. Many/most of them look down their arrogant nose at us peasants too.

  • kenoshamarge

    Brian Williams going after Sarah Palin? Well surprise, surprise, surprise!

    Only the Obamanation will be interested in what Palin-punching, Obama-lovin Williams has to say. He lost all cred some time ago.

    The constant attacks have reached a point where they are simply more noise. And the nastier they have gotten the more people have liked Sarah Palin.

    Let’s see how many women’s groups support the idea that Sarah Palin, a woman, couldn’t handle the job and had to hand it off to her spouse. Poor little female critter that she is. But she’s a conservative female so expect little or no support from feminists.

  • kenoshamarge

    We seem to have had two “well-educated” presidents in a row that appear to abysmally ignoratnt about a great many issues. Unscripted both of these “well-educated” men repeatedly put their expensivly clad feet into their mouth. Perhaps well-educated is no longer a synonym for well-informed, intellegent or just plain smart. (Excuse my low-class, not-so-well educated language.)

    Many well-educated is not now, and never has been the same as being smart and having common sense or even having good problem solving capabilities.

    Perhaps there are some problems that these well-educated, arrogant, fools cannot solve by talking at them. That won’t stop them because they are so puffed up in their own conceit. (A line I stole from an old Georgette Heyer book and have been waiting to use for a long time. It fits this time and these people to a tee.) ;)

  • Kathleen Wynne

    Ani,

    We did.  Hillary.

  • lark

    What a lame Secretary of State the U.S. has. All that SOS HC says is: Let them eat organic arugula.

  • kenoshamarge

    If you needed any more examples of the elites opinion of the peasantry follow this link: http://www.slate.com/id/2243797/ Evidently we should “Blame the childish, ignorant American public—not politicians—for our political and economic crisis.”

  • lark

    As far as Toyota is concern, the next American models will come with a child-booster chair for drivers and the On-Star contract to speak baby talk to all the passengers.

  • mountainaires

    Kenoshamarge:

    I almost never agree with Jacob Weisberg–on ANYTHING. 

    But, I do agree with his points in this article. After all, who elects and continues to elect the politicians we’re blaming? We do. Weisberg is providing equal blame here and recognizing equal hypocries as well. I think he’s got a valid point. For once. ;)  

  • tango

    Because he at least put forth a plan that looks like it might actually cut the deficit.  Or at least some new ideas.

    http://www.roadmap.republicans.budget.house.gov/plan/

    Is it a perfect plan? No. But I appreciate him at least addressing the issues with ideas.

  • AC

    “Well surprise, surprise, surprise!”
    Is that you Gomer?

    Just having a little fun kenoshamarge  ;)

  • getfitnow

    “There is no paradox, therefore, in Obama’s distance from white working class voters. What would be unusual is if he were able to echo their concerns in a deeply moving rather than in a somewhat mechanical way.”

    Even Jesse jackson was able to do it before he became a political hack.

  • getfitnow

    I agree, Ani and I love the term “word salad”. Salads that I don’t like generally have some ingrediant I like. His–not so much.

  • jwrjr

    I doubt that the Ozero admunistration would have me as I would insist on telling the truth.  That would have the same effect on the ObamacRats that sunlight has on Dracula.

  • getfitnow

    This is what made me furious when after his “race” speech, some were saying that this speech would  go down in history as better than MLK’s “I Have a Dream…” The idiocy.

  • getfitnow

    And it’s getting positive comments from both sides. But the dems won’t let a good idea get in their way of self-destrction.

  • kenoshamarge

    No problem AC, so was I! 8-)

  • Ani

    Yeah — I just watched a piece of her Convention speech.  I cannot for the life of me get how anyone could choose air over someone who is so strong and solid.

  • Ani

    Much like the Evangelicals were used by the Bush Administration — then laughed at behind their backs.

  • LisaB

    I saw this article today.  Honestly, I think it’s simply lazy to assume that when you don’t see what you want in a poll it is because people are stupid.  I seriously doubt the US has more than its share of idiocy, but I do believe that contradicting polls happen for many reasons.  I’ve had several phone polls where the questioner did not have an adequate answer I could choose. Assuming the polls always correctly reflect all the understanding of the respondents is lunacy.

    While I do know some Americans may not be adequately informed, I suspect that occurs on both sides of an argument.  And I really hate the “blame the idiots” theme.  Lazy.

  • LisaB

    Thanks so much!

  • LisaB

    Thanks Teakwood! 

  • Nobama4me

    This is what I don’t get: when did arugula become such a chic food? I was born and raised in Italy and arugula there grows wild around train tracks. I remember, as a child (a looooong time ago) mother would send me and my sister to collect it in a  bag, so she could add it to a salad. I hated the taste of the stuff, so I would go get it, but never ate it. I still don’t.

  • Diana L. C.

    Yes, I always did a double take when I overheard people saying, or had people tell me, that Obama made such a “great speech.”  I would think I must have heard a different speech than the one they heard. 

  • Diana L. C.

    I think one statistic that they are hiding and don’t want to face is the number of people who have left the party, many like me who have sent them nasty notes telling them why.  I would really, really like to know that number.

  • Hillary or Bust

    One thing I learned from the 2008 election is that many liberals THINK they are smarter and logical than conservatives, but the truth is, die-hard liberals run on EMOTION, not logic or facts.

    This applies to my friend who dumped me because I refused to vote for Obama (I’ve now been proven right, I think), and it applies to my idiot friends who voted for Obama against Hillary because “Obama is a uniter not a divider.”

    It applies to crazy liberals I know who would probably start out-right fist-fights with Republicans, they are so brain-addled with Bush Derangement Syndrome.

    A lot of these guys, and the fanatical ones are all MEN, have serious emotional problems and two I know are definitely alcoholics. They are unhappy and angry at the world, and have made Republicans their mortal enemy.

    There’s no logic there. Just raw emotion covered up with political correct BS. You can’t really fight it because these people are emotionally maladjusted and need therapy.

  • Diana L. C.

    But still the masses can see through him.  No one I know thinks of him as “their daddy.”

  • Ladydawnelle

    ROFLOL that is a “YOU BETTCHA”  FACT my SISTA or BRUTHA!

  • Ladydawnelle

    LOL ;)

  • Ladydawnelle

    I think Hillary has that number.  Or the closest one to it!  Most of us left because of what they did to her and had all our names on her list somewhere!  so something less than 18 MEEEELION!  lol :)

  • Ladydawnelle

    I’d rather it be Palin/Hillary or vice versa
    or at worst Palin/some Veteran
    or Hillary/some Veteran

  • stodghie

    joe glad to see he is making a comeback. what they did was just plain wrong.

  • stodghie

    who do these so called elists think they are kidding. talk down? naw it is talk up to us the voters since they are in the gutter. i have a degree and masters. i don’t need to be talked down to by fools.  i prefer plain speaking and not “pretty language” that says nothing because the speaker really has nothing to say. kennedy a very well education and well spoken man didn’t speak down. he used humor and used terms like “ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country.” simple! reagan, a sophissticated man(yes he was actually) knew that simplicity worked very well. and he was much loved by the so called “simple folk” who now despise obama peilosi and reid.

    so who is winning the war of words? i don’t think it is the dimwits.

  • beachnan

    I still believe that Hillary is the only one that could hit the ground running with her vast knowledge and her ability to work well/play with others.  We cannot afford more lost years, while someone is learning the system.

  • oowawa

    So Charles Blow opines “The next time he gives a speech, someone should tap him on the ankle and say, ‘Mr. President, we’re down here.”  An O-Supporter on a previous thread referred to the online opinions of us rabble as “the carpings of anonymous internet ankle biters.”  Thee One is truly a gigantic figure, like unto Paul Bunyan, Goliath, or the Colossus of Rhodes, and we Lilliputians can only gaze upwards in reverence and awe.  Please forgive us, Almighty One, for our wretched littleness  We didn’t plan on being so pitiful and small.  Please try not to step on us.  All Hail!

  • beachnan

    Lark, you don’t sound like yourself.  Has an Obot co-opted your name.  Your comments lately seem to support Obama for the most part and then try to hide behind a comment like “you know I’m not happy about him”, blah, blah, blah.  The comment that Obama is winning?  Have you seen his poll numbers lately?

  • oowawa

    So Charles Blow opines “The next time he gives a speech, someone should tap him on the ankle and say, ‘Mr. President, we’re down here.”  An O-Supporter on a previous thread referred to the online opinions of us rabble as “the carpings of anonymous internet ankle biters.”  Thee One is truly a gigantic figure, like unto Paul Bunyan, Goliath, or the Colossus of Rhodes, and we Lilliputians can only gaze upwards in reverence and awe.  Please forgive us, Almighty One, for our wretched littleness  We didn’t plan on being so pitiful and small.  Please try not to step on us.  All Hail! 

  • AC

    Yeseri bob.

  • beachnan

    Lark-who are you?  You are not the same Lark who has been posting for a year.  Why don’t you take a hike.  There are places you and your comments would be more welcome, i.e., Huffington Post, Daily Kos, etc…  Do us all a favor and just leave.

  • oowawa

    We’re sorry Your Highness!  We didn’t mean to carp at your ankles!

  • lark

    beachnan, I argue with myself and every morning I check and mind mind is never the same. That’s because I listen to ‘from coast to coast’ while I sleep. Can that get me alzheimers?

    As you can see above, my comments present a picture true of reality. Obama arise as winning since like Don Quijote he fights the windmills.

    My comments do not stand in support of Obama. My comments only describe Obama. Obama’s act is new as I described and it creates perplexity on everyone. I don’t see anyone that can match him. I thought Lou Dobbs could take him but he disappeared.

  • beachnan

    I agree Hillary or Bust.  I realize that as a former liberal, I had the unfortunate attitude also.  I don’t think it was to the same degree as it is today.  Something has happened to this group, and I think it starts at the top.  Obama has always had a snobbishness to him.  This arrogance is picked up by his followers/sheep and they espouse the same attitude.  You are right, there is no logic, and the only good thing is this attitude is going to bite them in the a$$.  I’m hoping that Hillary will run and show America how wrong they were in the first place, to push this no-nothing on us and the world.

  • lark

    WV said:

    It just felt good saying it.


    You shoud figure out what I said.


    the new keyboard) did not have a mind of its own

    I like EllenD enjoy your stream of conscious comments.

  • lark

    HorB, your comments seem fascinationg and exactly mimic the nature of the problem. I think you may need to join one of these groups:

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/LIVING/02/04/time.warp.irpt/index.html?hpt=C2 

    http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-362436

    This arise as the difference that you guys do not consider. Obama and the liberals pose as romantics. While Krauthammer and the Fox group pose as Victorians.

    True or false?

  • lark

    “I realize that as a former liberal,”

    It is very easy to go from romantic to victorian, it is extremely difficult if not impossible that once victorian, become romantic.

  • Guest

    Anyone who holds utopian extremist versions of mainstream conservative OR liberal views is dangerous. Certainly fundamentalist social Conservatives are NOT more gentle, moderate, flexible or less ideologically driven than your average liberal. And positions on specific issues are influenced by many factors. I would consider myself, for instance, fiscally conservative and moderately socially liberal.

    Which reminds me of somewhere back in my pscyh days, though, reading decades of social research that suggests the brains of liberals are more nimble by linking political orientation to certain personality traits or styles of thinking. Specifically demonstrating that conservatives tend to be more rigid and closed-minded, authoritarian less tolerant of ambiguity and less open to new experiences, etc.

    No doubt, also as a result of exhaustive studies during the 1800s, John Stuart Mill concluded as well Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives. haha

    And so it goes !

  • lark

    LisaB said: I think, had the story continued, those pigs would eventually have said something like “Let them eat cake.”
    And I bet, ultimately, those pigs would have been ham.

    That can be the ultimate strategy, no? Sometimes I follow that strategy. After all once the pigs get into cake they don’t depart from it until they actually self-destruct.

    Do you get it? Do you get it?

  • lark

    LisaB said: I think, had the story continued, those pigs would eventually have said something like “Let them eat cake.”  
    And I bet, ultimately, those pigs would have been ham. 
     
    That can be the ultimate strategy, no? Sometimes I follow that strategy. After all once the pigs get into cake they don’t depart from it until they actually self-destruct.  
     
    Do you get it? Do you get it?

    Isn’t it right that both parties and both groups have engaged in the same strategy?

  • FLDemFem

    There is no need for anyone to “take him”. He is self-destructing all on his own. And anyone who can’t see that is blind and stupid.

  • FLDemFem

    Graham, it occurred to me when I heard him at the first debate. Couldn’t marshall his thoughts and get out a coherent sentence. His answers boiled down to “What Hillary said.” So did all the policies he claimed to have. And where are those policies today? In the wind, because he never actually had them, it was all a huge fake-out. Just like Obama is a huge fake-out.

  • FLDemFem

    A fellow Georgette Heyer fan!! Cool!!! I have been one for decades and decades. Good writer and gets the period details on the nose every time.

  • FLDemFem

    Beachnan, check out her comment on Hillary’s “cold heart” on the Crushed in DC thread. Guess she didn’t realize this is a site full of Hillary fans.

  • Bart

    Guest is impersonating Lark

  • FLDemFem

    We should start gnawing on his ankles, with steel dentures. Soon.

  • Buttered

    Great comments!

    Yeah, Obama outsources everything!

    Obama even outsources his speech and his opinions!

  • Buttered

    RE:  “flyover people”

    But the Coasters are the “flyover people” for a majority of us and the rest of the world.

    Maybe they are nice places to visit but then just “flyover” them on the way back home.

  • Buttered

    And George Bush JR. is eternally grateful! 

  • Buttered

    Geoff, did you also see that Obama’s speeches are on the 8th grade level?

  • Buttered

    RE:  “I hit the mute button on a daily basis.”

    LOL  I thought I was the only one who did that.

    I can stand to see his losing face and his losing voice.

  • Buttered

    Think your right Beachnan.

  • Buttered

    Especially since it is known that the O-Bought Trolls have been given new marching orders to attack Hillary supporters and to call in on talk radio shows.

  • Buttered

    Yes indeedy!

  • Buttered

    Hey! 

    Ventriloquist’s dummies resent that remark!

    snark snark

  • Buttered

    Isn’t arugula the same thing as polk salad?

  • oowawa

    No No–Danger! Danger!  Unless properly cooked, pokeweed (polk salad) is poisonous.  Arugula is a totally different plant and is not. 

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polk_salad

    Never ate “polk salad” myself, but I love Tony Joe White’s song “Polk Salad Annie.”

  • makeji

    Lou shows up on O’Reilly every so often.

  • makeji

    Well, according to the pundits on Fox News the Tea Party is made up of Republicans and Democrats, but mostly Independents. As a former Democrat, pre-Hillary getting trashed, that’s what I consider myself. Talk on Fox has it that the Republicans need to shape up as well before the Tea Party folks will bond with them.

  • makeji

    Her announcement that she wouldn’t be SOS in a 2nd Obama term was quite telling. Dick Morris has been saying for a year that she was going to bide her time until Obama was on the skids before she began to make herself independent from him. Talk has it, though, that she may have her sights on being Governor of NY.

  • makeji

    Me, too. What’s interesting, though, and thankfully the case now – companies are no longer using clips from his speeches in their commercials. Talk about over-exposed.

  • arabella trefoil

    Great OP and fantastic thread. It’s people like you who give me hope.

    Pessimistic as I feel now, I “Never can say goodbye” to the belief that we can regroup and find common ground with people who we may have ignored in the past.

    Keep writing, keep coming up with ideas, and have courage.

  • Lyn

    That’s what I was thinking. Most poeple I know that like Sarah are the people that quit watching NBC and other channels that bashed Hilllary for the One. Stories like THIS one just remind us WHY we quit watching them years ago

  • Lyn

    I think she realizes it, that why the troll is posting here

  • margaret

    It all comes back to Obama’s narcissism.  He can’t admit he has failed, so he continues on a suicidal political course.  He can’t be the problem, so the American people have to be the problem.  It can’t be that Massachusetts voters disapprove of his agenda, they voted based on concerns about the banks.  Because of his narcissism, he can’t listen to the voters.  He can’t listen to anyone.  Obama cannot deal in reality, but reality is closing in on him and it is going to continue to be fun to watch. 

    It’s amazing that more liberals aren’t hammering him for failing while holding a democratic majority, I mean that is so completely and utterly laughable.  

  • FLDemFem

    kenoshamarge, you are so right… “Many voters are “ignorant” Interesting that the root word of ignorance is “ignore”. Voters ignored the fact about Obama, to their detriment. Now they are paying the price for their ignorance. And so are we.

  • stodghie

    administration, this post has been repeatedly posted here by “guest” please remove.

  • stodghie

    personally i look for her to be gone long before 11/2010.

  • stodghie

    then lark or bark, whatever, get yourself over to a site more suiting to your ongoing verbal garbage bag of comments. that will suit you more than this one i believe.

    you see bark, this site for the most part has a lot of admiration for hillary.

  • stodghie

    bark, i award d for dumb.

  • morris1030

    We peasants are told by New Republic writer, Cohn that we have to organize for Obama and put pressure on congress for HC reform, as it’s our fault if it fails.  And guess what? He tells us where else can we go?

    If we don’t support a bill even if we don’t like it, we have no choice but to back it. As peasants we’re more than revolting, we’re absolutely lost and homeless without the Dems.

    This is The Village’s new mantra.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    deaf, daft and stupid comes to mind!

  • lark

    Hillary is old (pun) and she surrendered at the Convention. She is past tense. What’s new is Palin.

  • lark

    Hillary represents the old (pun) and she surrender at the Convention. She is past tense. What’s new is Palin.

  • lark

    Hillary represents the old (pun) and she surrender at the Convention.  What’s new is Palin.

  • Elliott

    Has it occured to any of these literary geniuses that the Democratic Party did this same routine to approximately half of their own party in 2008 and it is now biting them in the behind? Last year was simply act II of the great humbling of the American people. If you dare to disagree or stand up for oneself it must be because one is a simpleton. I find it hilarious that Krauthammer et al are now noticing after pulling this same shit over the Iraq war. Some Democrats and some Republicans have noticed that insulting and demeaning voters is not a healthy campaign strategy. Both sides do it when they cannot explain what they are doing to the electorate. It is about to go “boom” in this years elections but I am not hopeful that either party is fully cognizant of what is going on in the country. It will take more than one cycle for them to catch on or be removed.

  • AC

    Nobama4me,
    Boy, have you got issues.  I remember George Bush senior saying on national tv “I don’t like broccoli and I’m not gonna eat it”  he sounded like a spoiled child–sound familiar?
    Since you say you are from Italy then you should also know it is RUCOLA.  You don’t need train tracks for it to grow.  Furthermore, it is healthy and tasty in moderation.

  • AC

    Nobama4me,
    Boy, have you got issues. I remember George Bush senior on national TV,  ”I don’t like broccoli and I’m not gonna eat it” he sounded like a spoiled child–sound familiar? 
    Since you say you are from Italy then you should also know it is RUCOLA. You don’t need train tracks for it to grow. Furthermore, it is healthy and tasty in moderation-I personally wouldn’t make a salad of only RUCOLA.
    Isn’t it something that even vegetables get politicized–where is our intellect heading.

  • AC

    Nobama4me, Oh come on, let’s lighten up on the RUCOLA as we  say it in Benevento.
    Amazing how Obama can even alienate a vegetable.

  • whoframedrudy

    I think the Daily Toilet types are searching for a sense of purpose since their delusions about Obama leading ‘The Revolution’–hahaha–fell apart.  Hatred of the white working class is their new unifying philosophy.
    Why would any serious person write something like Markos’s juvenile fantasy about deporting the white working class and rebuilding the Berlin Wall?  Maybe the tooth fairy can leave a socialist dictatorship under his pillow.  Anyway, Markos reveals in his ‘Red Terror’ wet dreams his total contempt for democracy.
    What ever happened to ‘Workers Of The World Unite?’  The ultra-left is sick with hatred because the working class–the Proletariat–never fell for their communist b.s.

  • FLDemFem

    Diana, I am still a registered Democrat. Why?? Because I refuse to let those scallywags get away with dragging my party into the cess pool. I still get begging emails from them asking for money, and every one gets a similar answer. When they fire Donna Brazile, and the other people who cheated the voters in the last primary, I will donate again. They keep sending the emails, so I get to tell them quite often. One day, I hope, it will sink in that they need us, the Hillary voters, because the Obama ones are going to fade away as soon as he does. Some already have, which is why they are so desperate for money. The Obama voters donated to Obama, not the Democratic Party. The Dems are starting to figure that out. I still have my invitation to Bill Clinton’s inauguration, so I have been a member in good standing for quite some time. I refuse to be driven out of the party that my family has belonged to for generations. I would rather see the cheaters leave, and I will be doing what I can to see that happen.

  • My other site

    RE: Obama

    You know, I may be pretty unsophisticated, but the guy just REEKS of being in love with the sound of his own voice and image, has the attention span of a finch and is thoroughly full of shit, toe tips to the top of his head.

    THIS is what rises to the top in America?

    Is there a place in Canada that doesn’t get cold in the winter?

    At least THOSE people know how to make a Socialist country run.

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