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Palin Emerges as the Star of First National Tea Party Convention

All major news publications covered Sarah Palin’s speech yesterday, making sure to point out she collected a large fee for her work. She replied she is keeping none of it, but giving it to “the cause.” According to many sources, while she was greeted with cries of “Run, Sarah, Run,” she kept her political intentions to herself. Palin also addressed the importance of keeping the Tea Party Movement a grass roots effort and does not pretend to be its leader. From WaPo:

…the movement shuns any semblance of political elitism. And although many activists here embrace Palin as a spokeswoman, they are deeply divided over whether they want her as their leader — or whether they want any leader at all.
Palin understands this.

“I caution against allowing this movement to be defined by any one leader or any one politician,” she said Saturday night. “The tea party movement is not a top-down operation. It’s a ground-up call to action. . . . This is about the people, and it’s bigger than any king or queen of the tea party, and it’s a lot bigger than any charismatic guy with a teleprompter.”

Palin, by some accounts the standard-bearer of the Republican Party, in her speech took an unusual step of encouraging competitive party primary campaigns.

“Contested primaries aren’t civil war,” she said. “They’re democracy at work, and that’s beautiful.”

I appreciate her point about contested primaries. It’s time we shake up the political landscape and inject some new blood into the process.

According to The NY Times

…pressed about the relationship between the Republican Party and the Tea Party movement, and whether the latter should become a third party, Ms. Palin suggested the two should be compatible.

“The Republican Party would be really smart to start trying to absorb as much of the Tea Party movement as possible,” she said. “This is a beautiful movement because it is shaping the way politics are conducted. You’ve got both party machines running scared.”

I suppose she is pushing for Republicans to absorb the tea partiers since they adhere to somewhat more conservative principles, though I don’t know if I’m comfortable with this either. A third party has never been able to take hold in this country and the worry is in siphoning off votes that ulitmately wind up keeping a less than desirable representative in power.

The Republican Party, as it stands now, is just as big a problem as the Democratic Party. Too much entrenched interest plagues both. Her comments about both “party machines running scared” lends some comfort, however.

I would rather not see this movement co-opted by any organized group that is already toxic. My concern is not about small or large government but smart government. Unlike the false way in which the movement was first characterized, I don’t have any problem with paying taxes – I have a problem with waste. I don’t have a problem with health care reform. I have a problem with insurance giveaways, pork, cuts to Medicare that endanger seniors in this country and a lack of transparency. I don’t have a problem with either party as much as I have a problem with corruption in both.

It is also interesting that after the disgusting sexual slurs that greeted Tea Party protesters last year, being called “teabaggers” by everyone from Senator Chuck Schumer to newscasters Anderson Cooper, David Schuster, and pundits like Olbermann and Maddow, not to mention our POTUS making “teabagging” comments as well, now The New Yorker, Newsweek and more are referring a bit more respectfully to “The Tea Party Movement.” No matter how these news outlets tried to diminish the numbers of participants in rallies and protests last year, clearly, more than a few have figured out they would be wise to treat tea parties members with a little more respect. Quite a stunning turnaround. Palin’s “running scared” comment would seem to be accurate.

The greatest effect this movement can have is to scare officials in both parties into remembering how to do the people’s business, instead of their own or that of their cronies. Congress needs to emerge from its insulated bubble, drop the elitist attitude and be more respectful to the concerns of its constituents. To the extent that Sarah Palin can assist in drawing attention to ordinary Americans who want more attentive representation for their hard earned tax dollars and contributions, her “lightning rod” is most welcome.

What is your forecast for the Tea Party Movement? What effect would you like it to have? And is it something that will help or hurt in the long run.

Please tell us what you think…

  • arabella trefoil

    I think it’s early days yet. We have the Tea Party movement alive, by whatever means necessary. Sarah Palin is a lightening rod. She’s keeping the Tea Party in the news.

    By its nature, any young movement is amorphous.

    I am no longer a Democrat. I voted for a Republican for the first time in my life in the presidential election. The ONLY way to the attention of the Democratic Party and the Republican Party is by threatening them. I don’t think a third party can work in this country.

    However, if we scare the shit out of the existing parties by staying involved and by VOTING we will start seeing change. What did we see the obots try to do after they shamefully muscled Hillary out of the way?

    OMG! Don’t vote for a Republican. (insert comments about wedge issues here – abortion, gay rights, Supreme Court, etc.

    Vote for the Green Party.

    Well, OK if you really and truly can’t bring yourself to vote for Obama stay home.

    Sound familiar? Desperate times call for desperate measures. If I have to strategically vote for a Republican to punish a Democrat I will. I have finally had it with voting Democrat because “where else am I going to go?”

    The Republican party contains people with a broader range of opions than you might thing. Registered Republicans can vote strategically against Republicans too!

    The thing to avoid is just giving up. I hate it when I hear people say “What’s the use of voting? Both parties are bad.”

    That what the assholes want you to do – stay home.

    There will be a lot of turbulence, but as long as we can keep the fire burning we can avoid being co-opted by either party. Messy? Yep. Time consuming? You bet.

    Possible? Abso-fucking-lutely!

  • bamaLV

    i think every candidate running in 2010 needs to be asked if elected would they consider impeachment and make that a criteria for our vote. this country cannot afford 3 more years of obama.  should he decide to run again in 2012 we MUST DEMAND to see his records and proof of eligibility.

  • arabella trefoil

    Now your talkin’! That’s how it should be WE make demands and then we hold people accountable if they back down.

    It’s bare knuckles time.

  • Diana L. C.

    Ani,

    I agree with your sentiments completely.  It’s a bit like being on pins and needles as the old saying goes.  I am nervous that this movement will somehow be coopted by one of the parties and then corrupted.  It is a movement that did rise up from the people no matter how the Dems want to characterize it.  But I do keep hoping that it remains stron and grows strong. 

  • I’m a Linda too

    But Sarah is letting folks know her record of independence while belonging to a party.

    Didn’t the Greens become a party?  And they still can’t get any traction.  It takes a lot.  And there has to be someone willing to change things, making a 3rd party more viable. jmho

    And today Sarah did say, after last nights shouts of Run Sarah Run, “”I think that it would be absurd not to consider” a 2012 run, Ms. Palin, the GOP’s 2008 vice presidential nominee, said in an interview on “Fox News Sunday.” She said she would jump into the next presidential race if she believed it was “the right thing to do for the country” and for her family.”
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703427704575051380838858258.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsSecond

    I think it’s funny watching each piece come in with “her 100,000 speaking fee”, none reporting what she has been saying for weeks, that she would not profit from this speaking engagement.  Again, taking the moment in last nights question and answer to bring it up again and say she would give her fee to the cause.  CBS posted the video, cutting out the first remarks asking if there were any service persons there…and then cutting out the question and answer period, where she stated that.  That amounts to lying.

    And gee, what a surprise, huh?

  • Katherine B

    Arabella, I too was a lifelong Dem who voted for a Republican the first time in the Presidentail race.  Someone once said that the country is moved within the 40 yard lines (an apt image on Super Bowl Sunday), i.e. the middle.  I think the power of the Tea Party movement is in being unaligned with either party but seeking to influence that middle of the road independent vote that can determine an election.

    I volunteered for Hillary’s campaign and was devastated when the Democratic party decided to make sure the nomination went to Barry.  After he was elected with control of both houses of Congress I despaired that anything could stop him.  Well, lo and behold, out of nowhere came Scott Brown and that one single victory has put the brakes on.  I like Scott Brown because he also sounds somewhat plain spoken and moderate.  He doesn’t have a propensity for sticking his chin in the air.  And I was impressed that one of the first things he said was “we’re all the forty-first vote now.” 

    Barry doesn’t seem the least bit conversant with the pronoun “we.”

    So my hat is off to hard working candidates who do their homework and who are willing to go out and meet the people and LISTEN to them.   Good for Scott Brown and good for the Tea Party movement.

  • Ladydawnelle

    I’m back and forth with Sarah lately.  I was all PUMA4PALIN until this last interview with Wallace.  She was too rigid or GOP for me. I wish Hillary would run. I can’t stand the right or the left.

  • PortiaElizabeth

    Ani — thanks for bringing this bit of fresh our way. I didn’t see Sarah’s speech, but saw clips this AM. I don’t think she used a teleprompter to help her get her points across. wtg Gov. Palin!

    btw, does anybody know how many people went to the Tea Party convention?

  • arabella trefoil

    What the Republicans and Democrats are hoping for is the following:

    1) The Tea Party people give up and stay home.
    2) The Tea Party people fight amongst themselves.
    3) The Tea Party people get stereotyped as “old white people

    None of that stuff worked? Oh, shit! Time to use the nuclear option”

    4) Those naughty bad Tea Party people form a third party. I call this option “Naderization.” Naderization means that the Tea Party movement looks loony, looks marginal and in the very worst possible case scenario, can only act as a spoiler. So the Republicans and the Democrats can figure out how to use the Tea Party movement against the opposition, but in reality the Tea Party has no power. The Tea Party becomes a pawn in a “wink wink” kind of game between the established parties.

    There are so many decicated, savvy people out here who are not afraid of hard work. I say destroy the established parties from within and replace the hacks with good candidates.

    Give voters a REAL choice. No more manipulating us with wedge issued.

    We can start right now by demanding and getting public financing laws passed. And term limits. Just pressing these two issues forward and demanding results will have an impact. No third party is needed.

    Oh, and let’s be sure to make an example of the first politicians who lie to us about these issues.

    Pick a broad issue where we can gain consensus (public financing and term limits) and hammer the hell out it. And keep hammering the hell out it.

    Nothing is worse than indecision, or fretting about details.

  • Cathy in Ks.

    I don’t know what the future of this movement is?  I’m sympathetic to the movement.  The Tea Party seems to be a “wake-up call” for both political parties although it seems to be more compatible with republicans than democrats.  I don’t know if it can remain a “grass-roots” movement forever without becoming it’s own political party or becoming absorbed by one or both of the major political parties.

    As for the Tea Party becoming another viable political party, only time will tell.  I do agree that “third party candidates” tend to be spoilers for one side or the other in presidential elections but history may change. There are a growing number of “independents” in this country.  In the recent senate race in Massachusetts, “independent or unaffiliated voters” out-numbered both the dems. and the republicans and it was the independent voters who pushed Scott Brown to his victory.

  • Daisy Mae

    I was a lifelong Dem…until this past election, no longer, now an Indy, but registered to vote in the Repub. primary in my state (you have to choose Rep. or Dim. to be able to vote).  I am delighted with the Tea Party.  I thought Sarah did a Smackdown.  The Tea Party is organized well in my state of NM.  

    I think this movement will burgeon.  I hope this is just the beginning.  It makes me smile to see now crazed the lefties get with Sarah and the Tea Party.  

  • Objective Analysis

    If the Tea Party Movement stays grounded on its fundamental beliefs as outlined by the original Boston Tea Party, Constitution, and Declaration of Independence.  It will continue to thrive and survive.

    The Democratic party, is another story.  They might go like the Whig Party. Extinct.

  • trixta

    I would like to see a third Party, but don’t think it’s possible without a leader to push it forward.  What we have, however, is a growing and palpable COALITION that is acting as a political force.  Many who are unhappy with both parties have come together through such a coalition (Independents, PUMAS, Tea Partiers, exiled Dems and Repubs) to push back against unpopular and dangerous policies, etc. In many ways, as I believe, political Parties are becoming obsolete.  Perhaps acting coalitions are the wave of the future, since they are not fixed entities and can respond to specific issues and act according to the political landscape and to contemporary conditions.  Coalitions cannot compete with Parties on many levels, but they can co-opt Party pols to address coalition concerns and even adopt a coalition strategy.  On some level, Sarah Palin and Scott Brown understand this.  I hope Hillary is keeping a close eye on not only such figures, but on studying this new COALITION MOVEMENT (or phenomenon) so that she can take full advantage of it and push it to the next level if she decides to run again.

  • lark

    She was too rigid or GOP for me

    rigid = GOP

  • helenk

    ot

    http://www.courant.com/community/middletown/hc-middletown-ct-power-plant-explosion,0,3952195.story

    This is the latest I could find on the explosion.

    If the tea party group were to be independent and not alligned with either party they could gather more people and make a statement that could change the country. I think pumas would join. But if it is strickly republican many people will not support them.
    Both the democratic and republican parties have been taken over by loonies the tea party people and the pumas togather could make voices heard.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  • beachnan

    Second that emotion Ladydawnelle!

  • lark

    The Tea Party is Palin’s baby now. She will breast feed it until the time to wean it. After its weaned it will begin in its terrible twos. Then it will need discipline. It may throw a tantrum and fall from the high chair and knock itself out.

  • atti
  • Emily

    Retards, all of you.

    Don’t worry, Sarah said this time it’s okay. Rush and I get passes for some reason.

  • AC

    PE, The Washington Post read “600 delegates”.

  • AC

    PE, The Washington Post reads “600 delegates”.

  • Daisy Mae

    Oh my, I am overwhelmed, Lark and Emily are here to dazzle us with their brilliance and insight.  Gee, Emily, that was so sophisticated with the epithets. And Lark, are you fantasizing about boobs or just being a boob?

  • foxyladi14

    she took bo to the woodshed  go Sarah!!!!!!!!!!

  • Emily

    I would just like a brief explanantion as to why Rahm Emanuel should be fired for the “R-word” but our beloved Sarah, defender of all of God’s children, says Limabugh’s egregious use is merely satire. She should be ashamed of herself.

  • Hokma

    It’s worth looking at the development and end of the Whig Party which was similar to the Tea Party because it came about because of extreme dissatisfaction over a President trying to take on too much power, but they lacked the cohesion of ideology. The question with this Tea Party is if there is a cohesive ideology that will bind them or, with a major defeat of Obama and return of the GOP will they fall apart?

  • just_sayin

    lol… she didn’t use a teleprompter… it was written on her hand like in jr high school. 

  • AbigailAdams

    This is a nice article about the motivations of the Tea Party.  It’s so obvious when Tea Party opposition ruminates on what the Tea Party is.  They either can’t or refuse to get it right.  I think there are at least a couple of reasons the Tea Party hasn’t got off the ground to the heights they could achieve:

    1) They don’t clearly spell out their mission.  Most of what is said is what they are not, rather than what they are.  Defining yourself by what you are not is poor marketing — it allows the opposition to define your weaknesses.

    2)  They need to ditch Sarah Palin or anyone else with any Party affiliations.  No matter how “moderate”, “liberal” or “conservative” any of these people may be, they will never shed the perception of being aligned with a political party.  How hard can it be to find someone from within their own ranks who is articulate, smart and motivating?  Sarah Palin, after all, was not well known outside AK before she landed on the national stage.  I listened to her keynote speech a little last night and I thought she came off too glib — she was seeking to create “sound bites”.  Well enough, but the Tea Party needs to be seriously represented and one glib shot after another at either or both Parties gets tiresome.  Broad generalizations about the Tea Party movement need to be expanded with substantive plans and details.  Generalities will lose a lot of  people who already know the generalities — they don’t need to be restated a dozen different ways.

    3)  Those who might consider joining any third party are fed up with being hoodwinked into something fishy.  The Tea Party will suffer if they don’t deliver on the idea it is actually something non-partisan, bipartisan or middle-of-the-road conservatism.  And they need to define their terms in a day when “conversative” means GOP to most of us.  Trading the current admin for the old admin and its adherents is not an answer.

    Okay, there’s my suggestions.  Noises off. 

  • Hokma

    On Palin, while a fan, I realized what is missing with her from her speech and her interview with Chris Wallace. While she tells you what she believes, it comes out as campaign talking points rather than general conversation. I hope that is from a lack of experience on the national political stage and hopefully she can change that – otherwise she risks staying branded as having a lack of depth and being superficial.
    What I truly admire about her is how she got to be where she is today given her background and the despicable hammering she receives from the yellow journalism press corps (pronounced corpse in Obama language).

  • imustprotest

    Wow!  She must have some big hands!  She spoke for more than an hour!!  Either that or she writes really teeny tiny words…..sure, I believe she “cheated”, just like I believe Obama is just a regular guy who cares about people.  NOT.

  • jangles

    600

  • buzzlatte

    I would like a dissertation from you, Emily, on why you have the right to use up oxygen.

    tick, tick, tick

  • jangles

    I think the coalition idea is the wave of the future.  I agree with what I think is the consensus on this thread—the Tea Party should stay independent.  It naturally has a conservative bent and anti-Dem bias because it has sprung up in opposition to the New Dem government.  But it will be wise to treasure its independence from both parties.  It will also be wise to avoid choosing “a —leader”.  Right now it is a natural democratic body.  I think the day of hierarchical decision-making may be ending.  We need to embrace a new type of leadership; one in which we recognize that different people will play leadership roles at different times, for different purposes and for varying periods of time.  We will each have our 15 minutes of leadership which may coincide with our 15 minutes of fame.  We also need to quit thinking that 3rd parties fail.  No that depends upon how you define success.  The big question is does a 3rd party movement bring about political and policy change?  History shows that most political and policy change in our country grew from a 3rd party incubator.  Think about the impact of the “green party” Nadar’s party—etc—those have brought change, not by electing candidates but by forcing the political parties to engage the issues.

  • socaldem

    Actually I think both parties are in trouble, the tea party folks would like for our government to follow the Constitution, give us less government intrusion. Sounds good to me.
    Country before Party!!

  • Tex-Mex Soup

    I personally have a problem with these dirtbags (not all but a good chunk of them) being able to serve in congress for 20,30, 40 + years. 

    We need term limits.

  • FLDemFem

    I want to know why she uses up bandwidth with her noxious remarks.

  • donjo

    Apparently not everyone in the “media” is in danger of becoming a Palinobot; this from Salon.  What what I see, she is just another politician of the MeFirst party, jumping at the chance to add more $$ to her bank account. 

    Sarah Palin addresses attendees at the National Tea Party Convention in Nashville, Tenn., Saturday, Feb. 6, 2010.

    Eric Hoffer didn’t live to see Tea Party Nation, but I always think of his most famous quote when I’m forced to deal with it: ”"Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket.”
    I’m not sure the Tea Party cause is a great one, but it’s an influential one, and it degenerated into a racket lickety split, in less than a year. This weekend’s gathering in Nashville splintered both the Tennessee and the national Tea Party movement, as local go-getter Judson Phillips set up the once-anticipated “convention” as his own for-profit business. We’ll have a first-hand report from the racket that paid Sarah Palin more than $100,000 to speak Saturday night. But I can’t help weighing in.
    Wow. This was the Palin we saw at the 2008 Republican convention, the snarling pitbull in shimmery lipstick.  I know journalists aren’t supposed to use words like mean and dumb, but I can’t help it. Palin is one of the meanest people on the public stage today. She wallows in it. She loves it! Also? Possibly one of the dumbest. But mean works, and so does dumb. And so do lies, and there were many mean, dumb lies in her speech.
    How rich that she read her talk in a sing-song voice as she ripped Barack Obama for using a Teleprompter. Once she left the speech for the Q&A, she really went off-message, as well as nearly off-English.  (Even though it looked like, at one point, she was reading answers off of her hand.) ”They’re not knowin what are we gonna do if we don’t have Tea Party support” was one of my favorite head-scratchers, a great echo of “when Putin rears his head.”
    But it was also in her brief Q&A that she made one comment she might regret, if anyone in the Republican Party ever held her accountable. She told the crowd her husband Todd — according to recently released emails, the non-elected former governor of Alaska — is “much too independent” to be a Republican, because he’s even “more conservative” than she is. What a great way to revisit the controversy over Todd’s membership in the secessionist Alaska Independent Party! Remember how Palin dogged poor McCain campaign manager Steve Schmidt, trying to get him to denounce Salon’s reporting on the Palins and AIP? She tried to get Schmidt to lie and say her husband checked the AIP box on voter forms mistakenly, and he refused. Now she’s bragging her husband isn’t a Republican because he’s so “independent.”
    She lied about rejecting stimulus money for Alaska (apparently she rejected a small home-weatherization project, which as it is sounds kind of mean for the governor of Alaska.) She lied about Obama’s position on terrorism and the Christmas Day would-be bomber. She mixed up Alaska and America at least once. It was hilarious to hear her denounce political “talk, talk, talk” and also brag about the job she did as governor, when in fact she quit that job to talk, talk, talk, for money, at wine shows and for-profit tea parties and of course for Fox News.
    I have to say, I’ve been assuming Palin probably won’t run for president, and that she quit her job as Alaska governor to cash in on her fame. I now feel pretty certain she’s trying to do both. She’s certainly looking like a grifter, and cashing in at the for-profit Tea Party Nation event, and taking questions from the increasingly despised Phillips, may hurt her politically. But it’s now pretty clear to me that in all her narcissism, she thinks she can get rich and run for president at the same time. And who am I to say she can’t, given the delusions of her right-wing supporters?

  • donjo

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    Apparently not everyone in the “media” is in danger of becoming a Palinobot.   I think the Tea party probably has some good things going for it – in many ways they’re promoting the same causes at the progressives. But as for SP, it’s patently obvious she’s just another politician of the MeFirst party.  This from Salon:
     
    Sarah Palin addresses attendees at the National Tea Party Convention in Nashville, Tenn., Saturday, Feb. 6, 2010.  
     
     
    Eric Hoffer didn’t live to see Tea Party Nation, but I always think of his most famous quote when I’m forced to deal with it: ”"Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket.”  
    I’m not sure the Tea Party cause is a great one, but it’s an influential one, and it degenerated into a racket lickety split, in less than a year. This weekend’s gathering in Nashville splintered both the Tennessee and the national Tea Party movement, as local go-getter Judson Phillips set up the once-anticipated “convention” as his own for-profit business. We’ll have a first-hand report from the racket that paid Sarah Palin more than $100,000 to speak Saturday night. But I can’t help weighing in.  
    Wow. This was the Palin we saw at the 2008 Republican convention, the snarling pitbull in shimmery lipstick.  I know journalists aren’t supposed to use words like mean and dumb, but I can’t help it. Palin is one of the meanest people on the public stage today. She wallows in it. She loves it! Also? Possibly one of the dumbest. But mean works, and so does dumb. And so do lies, and there were many mean, dumb lies in her speech.  
    How rich that she read her talk in a sing-song voice as she ripped Barack Obama for using a Teleprompter. Once she left the speech for the Q&A, she really went off-message, as well as nearly off-English.  (Even though it looked like, at one point, she was reading answers off of her hand.) ”They’re not knowin what are we gonna do if we don’t have Tea Party support” was one of my favorite head-scratchers, a great echo of “when Putin rears his head.”  
    But it was also in her brief Q&A that she made one comment she might regret, if anyone in the Republican Party ever held her accountable. She told the crowd her husband Todd — according to recently released emails, the non-elected former governor of Alaska — is “much too independent” to be a Republican, because he’s even “more conservative” than she is. What a great way to revisit the controversy over Todd’s membership in the secessionist Alaska Independent Party! Remember how Palin dogged poor McCain campaign manager Steve Schmidt, trying to get him to denounce Salon’s reporting on the Palins and AIP? She tried to get Schmidt to lie and say her husband checked the AIP box on voter forms mistakenly, and he refused. Now she’s bragging her husband isn’t a Republican because he’s so “independent.”  
    She lied about rejecting stimulus money for Alaska (apparently she rejected a small home-weatherization project, which as it is sounds kind of mean for the governor of Alaska.) She lied about Obama’s position on terrorism and the Christmas Day would-be bomber. She mixed up Alaska and America at least once. It was hilarious to hear her denounce political “talk, talk, talk” and also brag about the job she did as governor, when in fact she quit that job to talk, talk, talk, for money, at wine shows and for-profit tea parties and of course for Fox News.  
    I have to say, I’ve been assuming Palin probably won’t run for president, and that she quit her job as Alaska governor to cash in on her fame. I now feel pretty certain she’s trying to do both. She’s certainly looking like a grifter, and cashing in at the for-profit Tea Party Nation event, and taking questions from the increasingly despised Phillips, may hurt her politically. But it’s now pretty clear to me that in all her narcissism, she thinks she can get rich and run for president at the same time. And who am I to say she can’t, given the delusions of her right-wing supporters?

  • Jackie

    I’d like to hear from Sarah’s hand, if it has a few minutes for an additional Q & A…

  • Rosa

    I was all for the tea parties as a way for our voices to be heard but  the way FOX and the republicans act it is for them.   the MSNBC and some of CNN commentators are kinda smirky.   It does seem to be not just against OB but  for republican principles and after Bush and Reagan .no thanks.     I would not want Sarah to run now ,because like Obama supporters the fans of Sarah are just as giddy about her and it scares me that she might get elected  for the same reasons Obama got elected or Scott Brown. because we are sick of the old president.

              BUSH two, Obama and now Sarah  are or were supposed to be the new approach,the fresh face,  but when it came down to it , they were just inexperienced or incompentant.   I want someone like Hillary  or someone, anyone, that knows how to work hard and do the job  with the best interests of the country.

  • stodghie

    lark is getting the bottom of her cage dirty again.

  • Binky

    to donojo:  picky, picky, picky

    For those of you that are having to get all this information second-hand, most of the speeches and interviews can be found at http://www.pjtv.com for a quick, free registration.  

    The tea party movement is not party specific.  (My husband, a lifelong democrat, and myself a PUMA, participate in tea party events when we can–we did change our registration in December though.)  Taxation without representation is a strong underlying theme.  If you believe in smaller government, fiscal responsibility, personal responsibility, liberty, and our Constitution, then you might be a tea partier.  You will never find an organization as diverse as the tea party where all people hold to the same  exact ideas.  

    I find that tea partiers are independent thinking.  We believe it is our responsibility to do our own research on candidates and make up our own minds as to who we should support and not mindlessly follow a “so-called leader”.  I don’t think Sarah Palin claims to be our leader; as she said, it’s a grassroots movement.  But Sarah sure gives an inspiring speech — and isn’t that what keynote speakers are supposed to do?  

    Also, I don’t think the majority of tea partiers are looking to start a 3rd party, but we expect to stay more aware, more vigilant, and to hold our representatives accountable.  

    Regarding Sarah Palin, if you’ll pay close attention, you’ll find it’s the media pushing the Palin for President issue.  Didn’t they do the same thing to Hillary?  The media always has to push politicians toward some sort of announcement just to keep a ruckus going.

    I enjoyed listening/watching all of the speeches and interviews from the Tea Party Convention provided by PJTV.  Did I agree with everything said?  Of course not.  But I feel my time was well spent.

    http://www.pjtv.com

  • NoBama

    All these idiots on tweeter and blogs claiming that Palin had writing on her hand. How Lame are these people!! You can see her hands as she waives them around all throughout speech. People are sheep and will believe anything. Even CNN reporter read a blog claiming this. Wise up people, Sarah is drinking your milkshake all day long..

  • Jackie

    “All these idiots on tweeter and blogs claiming that Palin had writing on her hand. How Lame are these people!! You can see her hands as she waives them around all throughout speech. People are sheep and will believe anything”

    Only a blind person could convincingly believe that NoBama.  Of course, next week, once even you have come to the realization that she was reading off of her hand, you’ll be defending her idiocy once again.

  • donjo

    Maybe, at one time, but not necessarily so:

    …This movement is nothing more than the Republican Party masquerading as a grass-roots phenomenon. In 2000, the GOP found a cowboy-hat-wearing, swaggering, “likable” Regular Guy spouting “compassion” in domestic policy and “humility” in foreign policy to re-brand itself in the wake of the Gingrich-led branding disaster. Sarah Palin and the “tea party movement” are just the updated versions of that, the re-branding in the wake of the Bush/Cheney-led image disaster. They’re every bit as extremist, radical and dangerous as the last decade revealed standard right-wing Republicans to be, but the one thing they’re not is new or innovative.

    UPDATE: The Nashville Post’s A.C. Kleinheider, who covered the Tea Party convention for that paper, says Sarah Palin killed the tea party movement (“The tea party movement is dead. The one I was familiar with anyway. Judson Phillips held it down and Sarah Palin drove a stake right through its heart live last night on C-Span in front of an unsuspecting audience”). He also observes that “Sarah Palin didn’t give a tea party speech last night. She gave a partisan Republican address”; he asks: “what was [Palin] doing justifying and perpetuating the foreign policy of George Bush at a tea party convention?”; and says that what began as “an authentic protest movement” — “of ragtag and unorganized libertarians, independents and conservatives [that] was something new and unique” — has now been completely annexed by Palin and her GOP operative-controllers who want a restoration of the standard Bush/Cheney agenda.

    I think it was clear from the start that the populist and anti-Beltway rage fueling these gatherings was being diverted (absurdly) into standard Republican dogma, by the same party that ran the country with virtually no restraints for the last decade. And a large faction of this movement from the beginning was driven by the same ugly nationalism, Christian fanaticism, and Limbaughian hatreds that have long shaped the American GOP Right. There’s a reason why the Bush-revering Fox News embraced it from the beginning. But whatever else is true — whatever authentic elements once existed here — it is now nothing more than a vehicle for rejuvenating the standard GOP, draped with even more neoconservative extremism and religious fervor than drove it for the last ten years. That’s why Sarah Palin is their most beloved leader.

  • Concerned

    Limbaugh is a pompus commentator while Mr. Emanuel is the White House Chief of Staff. One voices his political opinion while the other shapes the Nation’s public policy. One these men is in a position of authority while the other is just an entertainer. I can see which of the two men deserves more public scrutiny over the words that he chooses to use.  Both men deserve criticism but the White House Chief of State should be held to a higher standard.

  • Jazzman

    Scary……………………..

  • Concerned

    It is amazing she can fit all that text onto her hand.  Had she graduated from some elite university she would have known the telepromter is the prefered way for sight-reading to speech functionality. I wonder if her hand also include directions on when to pause for applause or laughs.

  • AnnieCarmel

    3 topics not to forget and you think she has a speech written on her hand?

  • AnnieCarmel

    Meanwhile, The Dear Reader has his notes as well:

  • Binky

    Let’s understand this now… you’re the expert because you are a tea party participant and you’ve attended a lot of tea parties and you’ve gotten to know many of the tea party participants…???

  • AnnieCarmel

    The writing on Sarah’s hand…

    Then the writing on Bama’s hand…

  • AnnieCarmel

    Well, Donjo, I’ll give you a report after our meeting next Tuesday.  I am not a Republican and no longer a Democrat.  Is the Tea Party dead?  Apparently only in your dreams.

  • AnnieCarmel

    She did have reminders on her hand…no TOTUS though.  She didn’t want to forget to mention Energy, Taxes, American Spirit…

    Talk ablout haters… here we go again…but not really because most of you with PDS don’t have a clue as to what we’re about.  Stay just as you are.  Please.

  • Concerned

    So the writing on her hand is similiar to using note cards. Many speakers use some form of aid to remind them of their key points and keep the speech on message.  Not like she butcher the word corpsman twice within the same speech, but hey, we all have our windmills to battle. 

  • John/johnwsmart.com

    I am weary of the “third parties fail” talking points. The Democrats began as an alternative to the Federalists. The GOP began as a third party alternative to the Whigs and the Democrats. We are witnessing a full scale collapse of the Democratic party (though most Dems are still in denial about it). The GOP is energized but without focus beyond Reagan fetishizing. We need a third party badly. No, it probably won’t win national elections right away. But it would be a force for balance and action. A third – and fourth – party could form alliances – demand to be heard, influence policy. All outside the constraints of the dangerously sick 2 party system. 

    Every bit of anger and distress is funneled into one party then another (the subtext of “hope and change” was always fury and pain.) I don’t want Newt Gingrich and the Dick Cheney faction to benefit from my outrage at Obama and Pelosi because I have “no where else to go”.  Dying in a gas chamber or by firing squad is a moot point to the one giving up the ghost. I’d rather be on the outside pounding on the door and scaring the daylights out of those on the inside – forcing them to behave with something  akin to integrity – then to watch the country die. And that is what is happening. None of this should be in denial about this. Our futures are evaporating. 

    There is “somewhere else to go”. And we shall go there – and it won’t be pleasant – if we don’t get rid the cancer of the 2 party system. 

  • donjo

    You guys might want to read more carefully. I copied an article from the Nashville Post’s A.C. Kleineider WHO WAS THERE. But since when did people stop and think before opening their pie hole?


    “The Nashville Post’s A.C. Kleinheider, who covered the Tea Party convention for that paper, says Sarah Palin killed the tea party movement (“The tea party movement is dead. The one I was familiar with anyway. Judson Phillips held it down and Sarah Palin drove a stake right through its heart live last night on C-Span in front of an unsuspecting audience”). He also observes that “Sarah Palin didn’t give a tea party speech last night. She gave a partisan Republican address”; he asks: “what was [Palin] doing justifying and perpetuating the foreign policy of George Bush at a tea party convention?”; and says that what began as “an authentic protest movement” — “of ragtag and unorganized libertarians, independents and conservatives [that] was something new and unique” — has now been completely annexed by Palin and her GOP operative-controllers who want a restoration of the standard Bush/Cheney agenda.” 

  • Docelder

    Bush-Cheney. LMAO. You guys are a riot. Where’s the jobs?

  • AnnieCarmel

    Not even note cards, Concerned…merely topics she didn’t want to miss.  We know the trolls come out whenever Sarah is in the lower 48 or on tee vee, or makes a comment on anything at all.  yawn.

  • kenoshamarge

    If moderate, reasonable Indpentment minded people stay home only the idealogues and fringies, and the every present and corrupt media, will decide our elections.

    If you keep yourself as informed as possible you can always vote for the “best” of bad choices. And that should not be based on some dimwitted party loyalty.

    I always vote. I consider it my “ticket” to bitch. Long, loud and often. If you aren’t part of the process your complaints are hypocritical.

    If the Tea Party movement continues to allow asshats like Tom Tancredo to speak at their conventions, they will quickly lose me and many other moderate Independents who were cheering them on.

     They need to get the “nuts” off the buffet table. Fast.

  • devildog666

    I was there. 600 delegates for the convention and 1,000 people for the banquet where Palin spoke.

  • Ohio Granny

    Hey, in Ohio, my little group is trying to get 50 Republicans (tea party members), and 50 normal decent rational Democrats to sign up for the central committees of each party.  Then we can inject some reality, some honesty, and some good government by taking over from the inside.  Get the 50 Republicans is easy since we are currently “out of power” and the rage against the machine has been brewing for 10 years.  Folks, normal people did not like all the spending and correuption and paybacks under the GOP.  We were writing and calling and pleading with them to quit stealing our money and using it to name buildings after themselves or to take home the bacon for re-election.
    So Sarah Palin is starting where she knows and later, she is going to shock everyone by endorsing some real honest, decent, sane Democrats.  So if we want to take back our country, our government, and rule ourselves, then we have to step up to the plate and be our own Sarah Palins.

    I went to Nashville for the banquet.  I got to meet Carl Cameron, Andrew Breitbart, and Glenn Reynolds.  I got to drink with Joe Bailey of arrest fame from the New Orleans 4.  I got to feel the energy and excitement as people from all around the country said, hey, this middle tent is for whites, blacks, yellows, browns, reds, straights, gays, and everyone who believes that it is time for the real people to join together to get ‘er done.  And for the first time in 10 years, I believe this country is going to emerge better, stronger, and the ultimate Global leader for this new age.

  • AC

    Devil Dogs and Potato Sticks, two great walking the streets of Brooklyn snacks.

  • devildog666

    Hey Ohio Granny,

    Was that you drinking with Breitbart at Rusty’s Bar and Grill? It was exciting seeing all those bloggers and news people covering the event; about 100 times more coverage than the 9/12 Washington DC event got.

    They are finally starting to take notice. The one thing I learned from attending all those events was that like me almost no one attending was politically active before. America is in the midst of a revival, in spite of our faults, we have the best country in the world and we want to keep it that way and not become “WARDS OF THE STATE”.

  • Sassy

    My chrystal ball tells me three things:
    Both Sarah Palin and the Tea Party will be treated with condescension and disdain.
    In November, politicians are going to wonder what the hell hit them.
    The middle class has had it with picking up the tab for both the high rollers and the bottom feeders.

  • Hokma

    I was very disappointed in Sarah Palin’s speech and her interview with Chris Wallace. I thought there was more there to her that just needed exposure. All she does is recite campaign talking points – even in interviews. Either she is still uncomfortable with the national stage or there just is not enought there.

    Then the crib notes on the hand. Whether we want to believe it or not that image finishes her as a candidate for President. That image will be mercilessly mocked throughout any campaign she is in. Can you imagine Hillary Clinton giving a speech with crib notes on her hand? of course not. What you are seeing now is nothing compared to what the opposition will do to her in an actual campaign.

    She should have simply had cards or notes when she gave the speech. What she did was dumb. I like her and her story, but after Obama, Americans are going to want substance over style and Sarah was not ready for it yet.

  • donjo

    Problem is, right now there’s no viable 3rd party candidates.  We’re screwed into the 2 party system, like it or not.  People pissed off will just NOT vote.

  • Murray

    Absolutely, Sassy.  In response to your second point:  I am constantly amazed that the media AND this administration act as though they are baffled by this “little tea-party” thing, when you KNOW they have been studying it 24/7, and are trying to get ahead of it.

  • Sassy

    Yes they know!
    That’s why the BO blitz is sweeping the airwaves again.
    Take away his campaign style and there’s nothing left.

  • whoframedrudy

    “That amounts to lying.”

    You’re right, but let ‘em lie.  When the media elites and the ‘creative class’-hahaha-ridicule and lie about her,  it only makes her stronger.  

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