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Darragh and Will on Hardball!

By SusanUnPC on August 14, 2008 at 10:25 PM in Democratic National Convention, Hillary Clinton

Darragh Murphy, of PumaPAC and NoQuarter Radio — along with fellow PUMA Will Bower, of Just Say No Deal — were guests on MSNBC’s Hardball today.

I like the title of the video: “Clinton’s fire inextinguishable.”

I’m going to poke around MSNBC and see if there’s a print story to go with this video. But I thought I’d rush this up so you can all see it (since, ahem, most of us don’t watch MSNBC much these days).

luckyann

they did well but the interviewer was a jerk…

WildChild

They weren’t prepared. I would have eaten Schuster for lunch.

standard

Schuster was sweating and straining. He came off like an ass.
Great job Will and Murphy!

WildChild

sure he came off like an ass. But he came out on top.

Hope Floats

You probably could have destroyed him WildChild.
http://motorcityliberal.blogspot.com Motorcityliberal

Somebody ought to tell Davey boy this is America and you allowed to vote or don’t vote for whomever.. Anyway I thought the interview was ok, I mean I wouldn’t rush home and blog about it but it was ok. The problem I had was they didn’t challenge Schuster when he started to using Obama camp talking points how many times did Schuster got out the talking point of Obama won the popular vote? And how people signed on for selective punishment..

They seem to me that they don’t do too many tv interviews and the ones they do it’s with friendly outlets (nothing wrong with that)and dealing with a pissed off Obot for 10 mins doesn’t help. If I was them and I see where the interview was going south to hell but a quick stop at holy then thou blvd, I would mention ok if you’re going to base who I am cuz I gave money to McCain EIGHT YEARS AGO.. How can Schuster justify cashing in a pay check from a company that deals with death and destruction in Iraq? GE makes the weapons and the planes that’s been used in Iraq and GE was one of the biggest Bush donors let’s not forget at the start of the Iraqi war MSNBC was trying it’s hardest to be a Fox News clone they gave Frank Luntz a show and they even gave that nut job Michael Savage a show and up til Olbermann took some ratings from O’Reilly MSNBC became the network for Obots So Davey shouldn’t try that game.

Back to the subject they played defense instead of offense, Obama didn’t win the popular vote and the numbers Schuster has are from the Obama campaign site, and the idea of Roe V. Wade being overturned is another taking point, the Republicans will never overturn Roe V. Wade it’s the one thing to get the pro lifers out to vote and why would they risk that voting bloc? As for Obama flip flops he can’t bash McCain on off shore drilling and then switch yourself, you can’t be against unwarranted spying but be for it when it suits your political goals.

CheapEmptySuit

He was ordering them to vote for fraudbama. He made fun of how much she raised. There are over 200 puma groups and her group is only 1 and 50,000 is not bad it’s first 2 months in existence. What about the other groups and the money they have raised. Donors are getting hit with all kinds of groups needing money including paying off Hillary’s debt…which by the way we never did find out how much we raised on July 4th and beyond that.
I’m holding my breath and pulling the lever not for Obama. I can’t stand the dictatorship I am witnessing with the Democrat(ic?) Party. I can cast my vote for anyone I choose and for any reason even if it’s because I like her speeches or because I want to cast a protest vote..my vote..my choice and no one is going to make me do anything for their advantage. It’s for me and my advantage.
Capice? DNC and stupid pundit? That pundit was sooooo chauvanistic he is boring. Evil pushy bastard.. What a turn off.
They are now trying to minimize PUMA. Nice. Minimize the threat? Whether they like it or not we are the silent majority. Dont believe me? Go ask someone in any part of WV if they are voting for fraudbama…..nope…….millions in every state are not voting for fraudbama. Soooo idiot pundit bully. Stick that up your arse and smoke it.

Miss H

Always remember:

Our champion, the people’s champion, Madame President Hillary Rodham Clinton!

Karma

With the rapid fire questions, twisting of information and talking over answers David doesn’t like.

It is difficult to get complete answers out in a form that is accessible.

Clearly the goal is to try and make PUMA look foolish or upset them on camera. However, they made it clear that despite the ruse the entire MSM has been floating. This nomination business is a convention tradition and Obama hasn’t given Hillary anything that she didn’t earn herself.

They got a few other points in that I haven’t seen made.

It can’t be easy when you see professional talking heads struggling to get their points in effectively against similiar host techniques.
mom2nomads

Obama did win the popular vote. From RCP the total numbers are:

Obama: 17, 535,458
Clinton: 17, 493, 836

No doubt about it, close as can be, but Obama won.

Andy

You are looking at the wrong numbers since those are not the totals including all counts. Counting caucuses the RCP numbers are:

Obama 17,869,542 47.4%

Clinton 18,046,007 47.9%

Spread: Clinton +176,465 +0.5%
http://lnab.newsvine.com/ Linda

those aren’t the numbers. Those are the numbers WITHOUT MI…which excuse me DID VOTE! I don’t think the DNC gets to just wipe the REALITY of American votes off the map just because they feel like it

Popular Vote (w/MI)**17,535,458 obama 47.40% 17,822,145 clinton 48.10% Clinton +286,687

Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA* Obama 17,869,542 47.40% Clinton 18,046,007 47.90% Clinton +176,465

Pledged Delegates- 3434 1766.5 obama 1639.5 clinton

HillGirl

Here is what gets me. The Dems are doing exactly what the GOP did in 2000. Then, to get re-elected the GOP used scare tactics. Same thing that the Bots are doing with the women’s rights thing. It is so ridiculous. Nothing changed Bushy’s first term when there was a GOP Prez and Congress.

http://lnab.newsvine.com/ Linda

exactly my point

divided government is the only way to protect ourselves in the absence of qualified candidates or intelligible policy stances

allows us to pressure the Dem congress to oppose idiotic policy, AN OPTION THAT IS OFF THE TABLE if BO gets in…congress will be a rubber stamp for him in the same way the repugs were for Bush

georgiapeach

He only came out on top if you give him points for interrupting and talking over them whenever they addressed his arguments. I guess we could also give him bonus points for getting through the whole interview without his smirk slipping. He looked over the top, and hostile throughout. As the diarist said, most people here have quit watching NBC stations, so the only people he impressed would be Keith Olbermann, Chris Mathews, and the rest of the Obots at MSNBC and in the blogosphere.
MEchelle Hates America!

So Scumster treats some amiable Americans expressing their right to peacefully protest like shit

and gives a POTUS nominee Oblowme a pass on every single issue?

The host is going to bully guests into voting for Oblowme?

What’s next – a snuggie?

The island of misfits that is that station obviously got picked on as kids, but MOVE ON!

Why would anyone watch that crap?!

Oh yeah, because they’re idiots!

It’s TIGER BEAT for geeks.

Diana

He came off like an Ass, but Will should have interjected and told them how we came up with the millions. I don’t think this interview went well. I’m sorry they didn’t drive home any real points. How could they? He cut them off, wouldn’t allow them to finish what they were saying. If I was either of them I would have said after the first question is this an interview? And if so do you intend for me to answer your questions without being so rude? If not this interview is over. I can be spending my time campaigning against Obama. Doing some real investigative reporting unlike what MSNBC has done, along with all their buddies in the MSN. Let’s talk about his ties. Let’s talk about his adoption. Let’s talk about his voting record. Let’s talk about the other states SERIOUSLY that violated the DNC rules and were not punished…etc.

audacity

so finally they r making it to the kingdom of the networks and r not prepared?!!!!!!!

what were the talking points for the past 2 months ….. to be prepared?! nothing new.

the jerk mentioned that obama had the popular votes like 3 times until bill corrected him. also they let him make his points …..

murphy is like PENN. a liability for the PUMA’s. one because she donated that money to mccain, and all the reporters bring that as an issue.

in one of the past interviews, she sad that party unity my ass is cute and she came up with her own definition: party unity means action. sounds like a deflated slogan ….. just politically correct?!!!!! i do not thing this is the moment when any PUMA has to think about correctness

will b. knows the points. unfortunately he is a little softy and not assertive enough.

the only one who stops these talking heads, puts them in their place and brings the issues up front is Diane Mantouvalos. she counter-attacked cavuto and she always makes her points clear.

on an sarcastic note. murphy did not have time to prepare for the interview but hey, she had time for make up, brush her hair and put on a cocktail dress?!!!!!!! she has to look good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

go PUMA.

on a personal note, it is nice to misbehave, and in nov. i made up my mind, it will be a rare opportunity to wake up, vote for a republican ticket top to bottom and against every democrat incumbent in the congress, until the DNC changes the caucus rules and eliminates iowa and NH as first states to vote. and i can’t believe that i just wrote this, especially that mccain and joe lieberman in reverse order, r 2 of the politicians i’m more disgusted with.

but, hey, it is a protest vote.

so go PUMA

http://! Clinton Fan

You plainly need to realize that the whole PUMA movement, essentially, is “post party.”

You know how Barack was trying to “own” that shit? Reaching out to GOP, and so forth? Throwing those gays quietly under the bus (Shhhhhh! Don’t scream now, “girls,” while those tires crush you!!!), playing fast and loose on every side of the ROE issue, cheering on FISA, carping about a war whist funding it….see, the guy is a bullshitter, trying to co-opt the center.

Only we, in the center, are not having it.

Party unity–my ass.

My conclusion–we have way too many craven politicians. Assholes and liars. And Obama is the greatest of these assholes and liars.

And I won’t “move on” and I am not “getting over it.” And fuck anyone up their ugly bungahole with a hot poker who suggests that I must–it just ain’t happening.

And I am NOT alone.

PUMA speaks for me. Senator Clinton was, and is, my candidate. No matter what she says. I don’t follow her like a Messiah, I appreciate her strengths. There’s a difference. She can suggest I do this, and ask that I do that, but I am under no obligation or inclination to bend over and take it, simply because she has a gun to her head and is forced to say these things.

I’ll think for myself, thanks. Oh, and Howard Dean? I used to like you. I preferred you over my own junior senator. Now, I think you (and my junior senator) suck. Fuck you, Howard. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on! And fuck my junior Senator, too! It’s rather liberating not having to DEFEND your sorry asses anymore!

Danny

YYYEEEAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!
Hope Floats

BRAVO!
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A02EEDF1138F933A25754C0A9679C8B63&sec=&spon=&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink ummm

“Senator Clinton was, and is, my candidate. No matter what she says. I don’t follow her like a Messiah,”

You follow her like a stalker.

Donna Brazile

Da-umm, da-umm!

You sayin’ somein’ man!

Stop the hate!

Robert

How about saying “stop the hate” to the idiot saying F YOU Howard?

http://BHOtroll uh uh uh uh uh uh uh obuh

umm

you’re a limo waiting for a pick up …

your brain needs to change its diapers, moron = Obamatrolls go stalk Michele…she’s give you a Fist-bump to remember, sweeties! get the hell outta here jerks

fif

Audacity: that’s a little harsh don’t ya think? Yes, I’ve been saying that Will is too mellow and soft, and that spokespeople need to get very clear abou their talking points and pound them, regardless of the questions they are being asked or the tone. Given that they’ve been doing this for all of 2 months, and they went into the belly of the beast (MSNBO), they stayed on message, and remained calm in the face of that rabid dog.

Does Schuster really consider himself a journalist BTW? he didn’t listen to a single response, and came with the only one intention: to discredit them. How much is the Obama campaign paying these guys? They’re ridiculous. ER Murrow is turning over in his grave. I’d love to hear what Walter Cronkite thinks of all these hacks.

Anyway, Murphy & Will are not professionals, and have sacrificed so much time and effort to move this forward. Until you’ve done as much, you need to lighten up.

MEchelle Hates America!

The point is:

Scumster shouting over them – small wonder he’s perpetually hoarse.

Sean Hannity and Bill O’Reilly let people finish their sentences and are more gracious. Even Limbaugh uses humor.

Scumster is definitely not ready for prime time.

Who cares if she gave money to McCain in 2000?

People don’t MARRY a party! Grow up.

People get divorced, change jobs, and move.

But the right to vote is inalienable.

Unless you’re a Democrat.

not this time

David Shuster made the Pathetic Duo look more Pathetic than usual! LOVED IT………..

http://www.dawnellesplace.com Dawnelle Leona del Puma

Cavuto was a PIG to WILL tonight as well!!

Ok here it is:
ELECTION 08 – Pick a VP 4 Hillary

I have 2 spaces left if anyone wants me to add someone else
rw

I think they did smartly against pimp mouth fat face Shuester.
doctorwang

Great job, David Schuster. Thanks for exposing these two charlatans! Keep up the good work!!

https://contribute.hillaryclinton.com/form.html?sc=1 Barack Obama

Yep, good work, thanks for helping me control the masses by making everybody but myself an idiot.

Until Jan 9, 2009, everybody will be an idiot apart from me.

Tyrione

Schuster’s a mentally stunted human being. This is the same guy that mocked Clinton for pimping out her daughter and during the Republican Primary had his head halfway up Huckleberry’s rearend. The entire crew on MSNBC can’t ask an objective question and accept a truthful answer.

This notion that $50k doesn’t represent support–implying the more cash you throw into the PAC the more votes and voice–really spits in the face of the US Constitution and the “We The People” from the Preamble.

Ted

But we all do recall Bower saying $6 to $9 million was being raised around the 4th of July, by PUMA, right? He said “we don’t need Obama’s supporters – we will retire the debt ourselves”. And now they are saying they have only raised $50,000 total? HRC must be pretty pissed at Bower!

jrterrier

You are confusing two things. The $6 to $9 million reference was to the amount that PUMA supporters were raising for Hillary to retire her debt. The $50K is the amount that PUMA has raised to support its own effort — website and such.

imustprotest

He not confusing the two, you are being kind. They dilbertly lie and mislead…It’s the Obama way.

http://www.dawnellesplace.com Dawnelle Leona del Puma

EXACTLY!!

workingclass artist

Agree…It was another manipulation in order to confuse the audience. Kinda like how the O-Hole kept repeating that Obama won the popular vote….Aaaaaand we all know that isn’t true. Brave of Will and Darryl to try. How sad is that….When Two Americans go on TV and are attacked simply because they represent voters not buying into Obamaswill. I’m glad that both of them made clear that this has become bigger than either candidate although Obama and the fraudulent support the DNC has given him is the catalyst.
When the O-Hole kept insisting that they listen to HRC and vote for Obama….I had to laugh. This coercion is pretty much the point.

David A., Is That You Trolling?

Ted,
There are some pissed off people knowing that Obama accepted illegal foreign contributions and contributions exceeding the maximum $2,300.
http://www.dawnellesplace.com Dawnelle Leona del Puma

I got an email from a friend in FLA whom I rarely talk to anymore – who just decided to tell me how she felt about the election – THIS is part of that email with links to prove that even SNOPES LIES for Bambi!
—————————–
(her words below)

This is just tooooo much!!! What a patriot!!! NOT!!!

————– Forwarded Message: ————–
From: “Pa (ALL names removed) @aol.com>
Subject: FW: Oba ma ‘explains’ why he didn’t salute the flag
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:59:08 +0000

Obama ‘explains’ why he didn’t salute the flag

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/stance.asp

Banther doo doo

WHAT’S WRONG WITH BEING ON OUR SIDE??????

Obama ‘explains’

I sure hope this gets around before Nov.!!!

On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 18:48:04 -0400, (remove name) forwarded the following:

Hot on the heels of his explanation for why he no longer wears a flag pin, presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama was forced to explain why he doesn’t follow protocol when the National Anthem is played..

According to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171, During rendition of the n ational anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart.

‘As I’ve said about the flag pin, I don’t want to be perceived as taking sides,’ Obama said. ‘There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song ‘I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing.’ If that were our anthem, then I might salute it.’

Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this could possibly be our next president!!
I, for once, am speechless. He has absolutely NO pride in this country!!!!!
This is outrageous!!!! He doesn’t deserve to be dogcatcher!!!
(Oh, sorry dogcatchers, I mean you no disrespect.)

LET’S SEND THIS CLOWN DOWN THE ROAD KICKING ROCKS!!!!
Forward this to EVERYONE YOU KNOW!!!!

no waffles aka drkate

OMG–he doesn’t want to “take sides”? And he wants to be POTUS? He wants to change the national anthem? Fucker can’t even sing

http://www.dawnellesplace.com Dawnelle Leona del Puma

I mean really that is pathetic even for some anarchist to say but for some dirt bag trying to run for office I think it’s a slap in all our faces! Those of us that served ESPECIALLY but all Americans!

He’s a PUNK (clear as day)

imustprotest

McCain should do an ad showing various Gold Medal winnners for the USA standing on the pedestals with their hands over their hearts while the Star Spangled Banner is played and then split screen with Obama standing with his hands folded in front of him during the National Anthem. How can we elect a POTUS who is not patriotic?

Perry Logan

Obama only puts his hand over his heart when you say “God damn America.”

Dawnelle Leona del Puma

lol!

I shouldn’t laugh! eww it’s too close to true!

workingclass artist

JEEEZUS!…WHAT’S NEXT?……Maybe Obama will have to speak another language while he wears a stylish sarong so he doesn’ look like He’s takin sides….Oh Brother….
Patriot Domer

Umm, I hate to burst your bubble, but Obama never said that.

You people are worse than the liar Jerome Corsi.

Andy

No Ted, no… Come on now; pay attention you’ll never learn otherwise. The 4-6 Million was raised by all groups to retire HRC debt. The $50K is ONLY for PumaPAC which is SEPARATE.
Capisce? Or is it too hard still for you?

Hope Floats

Will Bower was the one who said that. If there was a successful effort to retire Clinton’s debt made by PUMA voters, the distinction between the PAC money and donations should have been made. I think this was a weak performance from them.

doctorwang

Keep in mind that Bowers has got to pay for all those airplane tickets and fancy hotel rooms and lavish meals. Is he getting a paycheck from JustSayNoDeal? If so, how much is it? Has anyone ever seen any financial records from these organizations? Where IS all the money going to?

TeakwoodKite

Ask.

doctorwang

I am.

American Woman

I thought they fired him…you are right he is a LOSER…Since most of the work PUMA does is by emails, letters and phone calls…alot of money isn’t needed at this time…but since John McCain is excepting Public Finance…maybe more people will donate after the convention..
http://! Clinton Fan

You do know that David Shuster got his start at Fox News, yes?

He was assigned to cover–and he did, with salacious enthusiasm–the Lewinsky mess.

That’s what I think of when I see him….his overeager reporting, his breathless vigor…his perverse joy.

Tiger don’ change ‘im stripes; leopard no change ‘im spots.

He is what he is. And we see him for what he is.

http://www.dawnellesplace.com Dawnelle Leona del Puma

He was assigned to cover–and he did, with salacious enthusiasm–the Lewinsky mess.

PIGGGGGGGGGG!! NO I DIDN’T KNOW THAT!! ewwwwwww I need a shower I used to think he was the HOTTEST thing!!!

ewwwwwwww I hate finding that stuff out! (shudder)

ack I need a shower

http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

HE was the one who made the “pimping” comment??
I thought they fired the one that did that!
That explains a lot about the interview. He may have been one of the people who helped mix the batch of kool-aid that they’ve been drinking.

jrterrier

This was unbelievable and disgraceful. Schuster was acting as an Obama surrogate not as an interviewer. He should have been fired after he accused Hillary of “pimping” Chelsea. In fact, the Chris Matthews, Schuster and Olbermann should be taken off the air until the campaign is over or McCain should be given equal time.

catherine

Unfortunately this is the msnbc way. Attack the guests with your own talking points. Class A a– h— who thinks he is a real man.

Hope Floats

Dara Murphy and Will Bower should have brought their A game for MSNBC. Of course, it would be the usual accusations and scoldings.

MEchelle Hates America!

Scumster could not be a bigger bloated perpetually burping bloviating gas-filled bag of shit and lies.

No wonder he’s always hoarse. He’s either screaming over a guest

instead of letting the guest answer the question he just posited

or backing up with sewage.

He even looks like Mr. Potato Head. GROSS!

The guests were class acts

whose poise only served to make Scumster

look exactly like the shitbag he is.
Anee

Yes, he was a jerk.

I heard on Fox News and CNN that the move to put Hillary’s name up for the nomination was the biggest mistake Soetoro ever made. They said it makes him look weak and it opens the door for the vote to go Hillary’s way and for her to steal the nomination.

YES!

Perry Logan

For me, the biggest mistake Obama made was playing the race card on his fellow Democrats–thereby destroying the Democratic Party.

s. hall

luckyann — this is the same interviewer David Shuster who was suspended for saying that Hillary was pimping Chelsea. He is some piece of work.

When I listened to Shuster I thought I was listening to a Nazi interrogation.

msindy

I think the PUMA people looked good just by being calm and civil – the contrast between them and Shuster made Shuster look like the flatulent butthead he is.

They did fine.

I love the Kool Aiders’ reaction – they can’t believe we are not taking orders from a party or a candidate – we are actually thinking for ourselves. Blows their minds.

tzada

The Bart Simpson lookalike was horribly biased. Any sane person watching that interview(s) would or should have been horribly offended.
JJw

The host is in the tank
nancysabet

Remember he was the one who call the Clintons pemping their daughter for the campaign. He was suspended for a while for saying that.
Well dome PUMA; you were strong in the enemy’s territory.

Phishmelt

I think she will pick an obama supporter who changes his mind after listening to him.

VP ????? who will it be.

no waffles aka drkate

that would certainly be interesting….

I think this is the last effort to get HRC supporters “in line”…the same day they reached a deal is the same day TexasDarlin found the school registration, on the heels of the real BC.

maybe there will be a surprise. Russ Feingold?

Phishmelt

will she not pick one and have it 2 against 1?

is there a time slot for her vp?

http://www.dawnellesplace.com Dawnelle Leona del Puma

oops I didn’t eve THINK to add Barry to the list for Hillary

I guess I should give him one of the remaining 2 slots left

bummer lol

no waffles aka drkate

it would be such an upset for her to win she would probably have to pick barky. BUT, he will be found to be ineligible and will have to step down within the first year, leaving HRC free to pick someone like Mayor Nutter, etc.

http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

nope, Ed Rendell would be the best pick for Hillary. He worships the ground she walks on and the state of PA worships the ground he walks on. He would be her best choice.

Havoc

You people are nuts. Hillary isn’t going anywhere but back to New York. You will not coopt the convention. But it will be fun watching you pull your collective hair out when your attempts fail.

meileen

They did great; the host was a moron who sounded like a true Obot. Didn’t know much of anything besides a few of the Obot talking points.

Who knew Obama won the popular vote? He said that how many times, and it is no truer today than it was at the beginning of June.

http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

Well, they didn’t earn the nickname MSNBO for nothing.
s. hall

meileen I read earlier today that the talking points from the Obama Campaign was to destroy the credibility of PUMA.

Phishmelt

i watched it, abrams almost made me barf.

http://www.dawnellesplace.com Dawnelle Leona del Puma

yea the vote count total thing was unbelievable!! I pity his check book cuz the boy can’t add!

KendallJ

Shuster was an asshole who wouldn’t let them answer the questions. He wanted to run his own mouth spewing lies. They should have cold him out on not letting them answer. They also should have talked about the disproportionate weight allacated to delegates in the red state caucuses and the net effect of disenfranchising Fl. and MI.

Tuppence 411

Shuster’s outright HATRED of all things Clintons is palpable right through the TV. Disgusting. Personal bias masquerading as news. MSNBC should hang their head in shame.
janine

Oh Please…why should they detail the ‘disproportionate delegates between caucuses and primaries’?? that has nothing to do with why they were on. the PUMA’s HATE Obama, period. they will do and say anything to put him in a negative light so that voters will hopefully see their viewpoint and vote for McCain or someone else. they have no credibility in any of their arguments or otherwise….talk about drinking the koolaid – you Obama-haters are drunk with it.

janine

These two jerks were really pathetic…NOT ONE legitimate argument to support their viewpoint….nothing but their slanted opinion and love of Hillary and hatred of Obama. Total creeps that can’t even raise money to speak of for their big cause….they have NO support that’s worth speaking of – ZIP, NONE.

imustprotest

Ha ha…shows how bias you are. Do you just open your mouth and let MSNBO shove the talking points in or do you inhale them somehow?
no waffles aka drkate

wow, you’d better wash the koolaid off of your glasses and take your earplugs out.

what part of democratic process did you not get? Do you not understand that questioning the tactics of the DNC is not hatred?

the only hate came from the moderator who wouldn’t listen, just like you, had his own ideas and talking points.

anchovy, go home.
PKJayne

I suggest you drink heavily janine on November 4th.

Your JR sleazebag will be back in the Senate.

http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

Or prison, awaiting trial.

Andy Lewis

Eat my shit, Obot.
doctorwang

Their answers were, indeed, pathetic. $50,000 for a PAC is peanuts. It shows how little support they actually have. It’s all been just a lot of hot air.
http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

contrary to ~~obama’s~~ Soetoro’s belief, PEOPLE vote, not the amount of money they have. If money voted, we’d all be in deep shit. PUMA doesn’t have a lot of money, they have a lot of people. People are more valuable than money is when it comes to an election. 1 person = 1 vote, not $1 = 1 vote.
tzada

Guess they shoulda called 1-800-GAZA 4 OBAMA for donations…oops that number is already taken
msindy

janine – wanna see pathetic? look in the mirror

go smooch the picture of Barry under your pillow

PewL

The interviewer was definetely a jerk, No wonder that station is so far down on the list.

Clinton did win the popular vote,if the Obama thugs and the DNC didn’t cheat.
imustprotest

What was with the pledge at the end?? Obama won’t even pledge allegiance to our flag and yet because they’re PUMAs they have to pledge allegiance to B.Soreto?

Ted

getting your facts muddled. it was national anthem, not pledge…

David A., Is That You Trolling?

Ted,
Obama trolls get their facts muddled all the time so it’s clear you are an expert on the issue.
imustprotest

Oh, you’re right. Thanks for the correction Ted. It was the flag pin he refused to wear until he flip flopped and wore it when he thought it could garnish a vote or two.

David A., Is That You Trolling?

Obama will do anything to become President-even try to look like a patriot.

Hope Floats

I just watched our Olympics athletes receive their gold medals with tears in their eyes as the national anthem was played, and they knew all the words. It is a beautiful anthem, and if BO doesn’t like it, that shows you how out of touch he is with American values. Hawaii, Indonesia, Kenya, Washington DC and Hyde Park, IL are not the mainstream.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A02EEDF1138F933A25754C0A9679C8B63&sec=&spon=&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink ummm

Hawaii is a state, asshole.

Donna Brazile

Da-umm, da-ummm,

Your Messiah wouldn’t like that language.

Now, say three Hail Mary’s and sin no more.

Stop the hate!

AX10

MSNBC/CNN/NY Times/NewsWEAK/LA times have gone
to war against anyone who dares to question the “One”.

http://www.dawnellesplace.com Dawnelle Leona del Puma

2nd things –

#1 – here are early results

08 Election – Pick a VP 4 Hillary!
Answers Votes Percent

1. Michael Nutter 4 44%

2. Geraldine Ferraro 0 0%

3. Wes Clark 2 22%

4. John McCain 0 0%

5. Chuck Hagel 1 11%

6. Stephanie Tubbs-Jones 1 11%

7. Pastor Manning 0 0%

8. Jim Webb 1 11%

9. Barry Soetoro 0 0%

poor Wes, always a bridesmaid NEVER a bride (snicker)

doctorwang

I think you should have added Mark Penn to the list. Just think of the huge ‘war chest’ he brings to the table.
http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

Hillary’s VP pick will be Ed Rendell after she wins at the convention. I don’t know why you would “poll” any of the people you listed other than Geraldine Ferraro. (yes, we know you made the numbers up)
If this was supposed to be sarcasm, I forgive you. Otherwise, it was a piss-poor attempt at snarking.

Dawnelle Leona del Puma

BULL SHIT!

I monitor the numbers BIOTCH and delete the doubles which I am about to go do right now!!!

Results thus far w/out checking doubles is as follows – I will post the final tally after I check the cheaters!!! (probably like YOU)
fk you I don’t LIE or CHEAT or STEAL! Can you say the same for your BOI? nawp.
——————————-

08 Election – Pick a VP 4 Hillary!
Answers Votes Percent
1. Michael Nutter 10 20%

2. Geraldine Ferraro 4 8%

3. Wes Clark 13 26%

4. John McCain 4 8%

5. Chuck Hagel 1 2%

6. Stephanie Tubbs-Jones 11 22%

7. Pastor Manning 4 8%

8. Jim Webb 3 6%

9. Barry Soetoro 0 0%

(and I may take off the zeros and add Strickland and Rendell if some want to revote later or change their vote)

prabhata

Darragh and Bowers did the best under the attack from Schuster. I heard Darragh on “NQR” that she had no idea what 6 million Schuster was talking about until after the show. Apparently Schuster was talking about the 6 million in contributions made from blog.pumapac.org website to Hillary Clinton campaign debt. Darragh and Bowers have done incredible work with Heidi to fight the DNC. It’s not about Hillary or Obama. I agree that what they are fighting for is for the Democratic Party, but the idea that Hillary tells her supporter how to vote, is just stupid. A candidate must win the vote of each American, and Obama has made every effort to lose my vote. I will oblige.
http://undercoverblackman.blogspot.com Undercover Black Man

Where’s Chris Matthews when you need him?

He would have devoured those two.

imustprotest

He was busy calming down his leg before the convention.

http://undercoverblackman.blogspot.com Undercover Black Man

^ Zing!
no waffles aka drkate

all three of them, I might add.

KJMontana

Chris Matthews couldn’t devour anything except Obama’s penis. That’s why his leg tingles so much.

http://! Clinton Fan

No wonder Chris’s wife left her job at the rightwing TV station to work for the Mormon hoteliers!!!

She’s overseas a LOT.

Can’t say as I blame her….

trixta

Perhaps he’s on vacation with Obama.
http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

Is he that hard up these days that he’s resorted to canaballism?

http://liberalrapture.com scott in jupiter

Will should have asked Shuster why he is pushing barky so f-ing hard and why does he want him to vote for barky.

You’re a dem you must vote for barky.

imustprotest

Yeah, should’ve asked him who he pledged to vote for.
s. hall

scott — Yeah Shuster was really pushing it. So we should blindly support our nominee no matter who it is. Did he listen to himself?
janine

schuster never said any such thing…never promoted ‘Barky’ except to say that your angel Hillary asked her supporters to support him this was NOT about Obama – it was about PUMA.

Andy

This guy Schuster is one of the biggest A$$ I have ever watched …Is he mentally ill? He was bloviating nonstop stupidities after stupidities lies after lies and aggression after aggressions… Ugh!! how disgusting.

Even about the money he was purposely confusing the money that all groups in JSND estimate they have raised to pay off HRC debt with PUMAPAC to try to score a cheap and pathetic point ?

MSNBC is a national shame …. Unbelievable.

Larry’s Bad Hair Day

they looked like tottal fucking retards.

doctorwang

That’s an insult to all the “tottal fucking retards” out there.

BTW: catchy name!
tzada

You are referring to Larry Sinclair’s bad hair day right? Maybe you and Sir Barfs a Lot had the same directional view of it?

http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

the MSNBC guy was one of the new recruits that got fired from fox for being too conniving and underhanded.
I use to call them faux, but honestly, they are the least biased of the MSN news sources these days. I never thought I’d see the day that would happen.
Of course when the National Enquirer sets the bar for investigative reporting, fox news may as well finally be fair and balanced.

http://www.latinorepublican.com DD

I’m a republican and I do agree with Will Bowers…the voices of MI and FL were punished because of the disorganized “Dean” at the DNC.

http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

They weren’t disorganized. They knew exactly what they wanted to do and what outcomes they wanted. The Rules that couldn’t be bent before are now being bent by convenience.
s. hall

DD — The fix was in for Obama. Thats the long and the short of it. So we have a nominee who is not an American — who has more than one name etc. God bless Will and Darah for speaking truth to power.

David

Schuster must researched his stuff and listened to Obama’s trolls blogs. Anyway, Will and Darragh did a hell of a job and caught him of guard.

http://redhotandbluepolitics.com grlpatriot

I agree. I’ll add that Schuster is prick.

KarenG

On most of these shows the reporters make it about Hillary and you not supporting Hillary…..the issue should be taken away from the reporter and redirected to focus on why the group is not for Obama. I was in a situation several years ago in front of about 400 people where I asked Chris Matthews a question about President Clinton. He, like Shuster did tonight continually turns the questions back on you. It’s difficult to think fast enough to counter people who do this for a living. I think Darragh and Will did a very good job tonight.
They stood tough and Shuster reminded me of the last time I watched him when he made his, arrogant “pimping Chelsea comment.” He used to be a really decent guy, it’s sad to see what being on MSNBC does to these people.
photolady13

This Shuster guy…he’s a wanna bee has nothing but a big voice and a big frame…nothing else… He wants to be on the cheerleading team of the the “pom pom boys” and they won’t let him!! “no name..no brain” thats what i call him…

HARP

Compare this to the way Hannity treated the obama supporter the other night.

Eidnoreid

not nearly as bad as these msnbc talking heads.

http://lnab.newsvine.com/ Linda

well, that was a bitch slapping wasn’t it

next time they should go in with the number of CAUCUS fraud complaints that are YET uninvestigated

and with ####’S about the popular vote. The commentator HAMMERED that point over and over without being confronted about it.

It seems to me that this will end up in the long run being a stealth campaign, via email and mouth to mouth getting the truth out about this primary. Will and Darragh did a good job of holding their own.

http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Medusa

Are people still excited about Bozo or are they just too far into it to admit that he’s a complete flip flopping fraud?

I’ve been away for a few weeks and to be honest, I’m surprised there are still trolls blowing smoke out of their arses about Dopey-Mangey. He’s such an embarrassment to America.

C.S.

Schuster sounded more like a prosecutor than a journalist but I’d watch if he would grill Obama like a District Attorney; starting with “What is your real name and nationality.”

The only thing he proved to me was that he was not a journalist, not unbiased and not above making up he “news” to suit his own agenda.

Real reporters don’t set up questions and then supply the answers, makes them look too incompetent.

rw

No such thing as “real” reporters, IMO, on the entertainment news networks. Real reporters are out on the field, ie Michael Ware.
HARP

I would have answered the questions with questions, such as why the Hell is MSNBC not investigating Barry and why won`t MSNBC talk about phony B/C. He would shit himself like the babies that they are.
s. hall

cs — this is what passes for the media these days. What the Democratic Party has done is shameful–I am glad I am not a Democrat anymore.

http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

They both have bigger cajones than Obama. Obama hasn’t got the balls to go on FOX, but these two folks showed up on MSNBC. Hard Balls vs. NO BALLS AT ALL.

Obama plays with himself in the dark, I swear. I wish I had a thousand every time I heard him say he’s confident he can get the party unified. The fact is, this isn’t about Hillary clinton, it’s about Barack Obama. A significant number of us democrats Do. Not. Trust. Him. We don’t trust him with our country. We don’t trust him with Democracy. We don’t trust him with our lives. It’s as simple as that.

And I LOVE that Murphy pointed out how important it is to chance the DNC “leadership”. Stalinists must go.

Robert

“Obama hasn’t got the balls to go on FOX”

Bill O’Reilly is that you?
http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

he doesn’t even care if it’s dark anymore. He’ll do it right out in the open while posing for the press corp on his bus/plane. (play with himself that is)

http://lnab.newsvine.com/ Linda

the sweetest part about defeating BO will be ousting Dean and purging the National HQ of the bots who have infested it…

it MATTERS what road you travel to victory in this party and the lowest of roads traveled by the Precious to pander his way to the nomination is disgusting.

Edible fruit DOES NOT FALL from a poisonous tree

http://www.dawnellesplace.com Dawnelle Leona del Puma

that would be the 2nd sweetest thing

the BIGGEST MOST SWEET will be watching sewer rats like Schuster,Olberdouche, Cafferty, Rollins, Brazile, Miller, Rhodes, the other big fat guy on the radio (not rush but the one that SOUNDS like rush? the whiner (they’re aLL whiners) ED something. I can’t WAIT to watch them ALLLLLLLL lose it and try to spin their way out of the lies and koolaide induced stupors they’ve been under for so long now.

It’s there AGE mostly but a lot of it is their friggen egos I can’t wait to see them cut down to size!

http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

I think I jumped on you above accidentally. I thought you were snarking for obama with the poll thing. I apologize.
Tyrione

The guy you’re thinking about is Ed Schultz. He filibusters every conversation to the point you want to reach into the tv and smack the crap out of him to let the counter point be heard.

cplummer

I haven’t watched MSNBC for months and months…this Shuster jerk is one of the reasons why…Will and Darraugh(sp?) GREAT!
http://! Buzz Latte

We have a bottle of champagne chilling for the end of Obama’s – the pretender to the WH – campaign.

Would love to have it in August but will really enjoy it in November!

Clinton or McCain 08!
standard

Schuster was PATHETIC!
I’ve never seen him look so idiotic.
He was desperately trying to shoot them down, and he could not.

GREAT JOB, MURPHY AND WILL!

s. hall

standard — Shuster is not used to people with principles. This is the media — a bunch of talking heads who have sold Obama 24/7 for months and still have not closed the deal. It must be getting frustrating for them.

vee

I still remember a comment Senator Clinton made after winning the Senate election for NY. She said something to the effect that she would try to lift people up, not push them down. This effort by the television “hosts/journalists” to discount and embarrass the people who are not on board for Obama is another media cabal to push Clinton supporters down. I am grateful for the courage and strength that Will and Darragh are showing in standing up to the media propaganda machine.

Don’t let them push you down.

http://www.dawnellesplace.com Dawnelle Leona del Puma

W00T!! Mayor Nutter is in first place with OUR GAL Stephanie T Jones in second! (and Clark of course) I can’t decide between the FIRST 2 myself. Clark is not my first pick any more.

———–

08 Election – Pick a VP 4 Hillary!
Answers Votes Percent
1. Michael Nutter 8 32%

2. Geraldine Ferraro 0 0%

3. Wes Clark 6 24%

4. John McCain 1 4%

5. Chuck Hagel 1 4%

6. Stephanie Tubbs-Jones 6 24%

7. Pastor Manning 0 0%

8. Jim Webb 3 12%

9. Barry Soetoro 0 0%

http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com Gloria

Clark is not loyal to anybody to himself…always trying to get somwehere. And I was Clark supporter in 04. I started seeing the light when he hugged Kerry without missing a beat after he quit the race; this time, bolted from Clinton and ran over to Obmama when he thought he could hitch his wagon to a winner. Then he went out and dissed McCain for Obama and was thrown under the bus for it.

The Clintons should be done with him…

http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com Gloria

not loyal to anybody but himself…

just me

Chealsea speaks before Hillary Tuesday
Introdues her Mom
Hillary

Bill’s Speech Wed

Roll call Thursday : Yes Madame President

As laid out on Fox….

Say yes if you agree!!

Hill Yea~~

Hannity thinks Hillary fleeced him!
kinthenorthwest

He made a big mistake at the end. He asked “Isnt this the Democratic process if the majority of the voters voted for Obama”

Problem is Clinton got the majority of the voters and Obama got the delegates.

I think there is a big difference between voters and delegates.

Robert

This is a total canard. Popular vote in the primaries doesn’t mean squat when, what, 4 states have caucuses and DON’T REPORT POPULAR VOTES.

If you insist on counting popular votes for whatever reason go here:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html

Yeah, you can claim popular vote victory if you really want to include Michigan…a state in which HRC’s name was ON the ballot and BO’s wasn’t. But only a cult member can rationalize that as legitimate.

Oh, and NONE of this means jack crap since the Democratic rule is that the nominee is selected by delegates NOT popular vote. So circle-jerk yourselves all you like…it isn’t going to change the fact that Obama is the nominee.

WildChild

popular vote doesn’t mean squat for delegate dispersement either. seoBOBO got delegates in a state in which he got no votes.

Robert

I assume you are referring to Michigan.

1. Michiganders, at the time of the primary, were told that their votes would not select delegates who would be seated at the convention and it is impossible to determine what impact that had on turnout and voter behavior.

2. Obama’s name was not even on the ballot. Therefore it’s not possible to determine what percentage of the vote – such as it was – was for BO.

3. Hillary “outpolled” ‘Uncommitted’ in the tri county area (particularly Wayne) where Obama would absolutely crush Hillary in a contested election. That she had ‘more votes’ than BO here is simply an indication of how skewed these ‘results’ are.

4. Even if HRC got ALL the delegates from MI it wouldn’t have mattered anyway – BO still would have won…both pledged and super delegates.

5. Taking your marbles and voting for McCain – against your own best interests – is irrational in the extreme.

6. It’s over. Move on.

PewL

Oh really Obama would have won..That’s hillarious,since Obama didn’t want a revote,when the money was already put up front.Hve was scared to have a revote,because he knew he would lose..Also remember all these early states didn’t know Obama like they know him now…So don’t count your chickens…Remember Wright,ayers,Rezco,etc,etc,Would all the states Obama won,vote for him today,knowing his past?
Dont’ count on Obama winning Michigan,I have many friends,and relatites in that state,and not one of them,or there friends,want any part of Obama..

janine

A revote paid for by Hillary’s supporters…are you nuts!! Anyone who would hold an election paid for by private individuals and call that ‘fair’ is loopy. Not going to happen ever…and it shouldn’t
Robert

i was referring to wayne county i.e. metro detroit. and i don’t know if you dead enders are paying attention but BO is ahead in both the national popular vote and electoral college.

methinks this board is full o’ republicans or crazy old cat widows.

Just A thought

It is not over until the November GE.

However, as to, but prior to your advice to move on, multitudes of us have done just that.

We have moved on. While keeping Hillary in our hearts and minds, we have moved straight to John McCain, and will pull the lever for him in Nov..

Also…I will personally vote against any down-ticket Democrats who support Obama.

I was a voting, donating, campaigning Dem. for 4 decades. no more!

It is now a case of country over party, and I had rather cast my lot with known devils, warts and all, than a damn enigma and its mesmerized, lying, messianic supporters.

Labels, name-calling, cajoling, insulting, etc. by Obama minions have no effect on me. I have no white guilt, I already have a true Messiah, my vote is mine, and I am your worst nightmare.

Just A thought

Additionally..from PUMA Alliance:

THE AUDACITY OF HISTORY

August 13, 2008 — pumaalliance

1980:
Jimmy Carter – 1981 delegates
Ted Kennedy – 1225 delegates
Uncommitted – 122
Kennedy had no chance of winning, but his name was placed in nomination.

1984:
Jesse Jackson – 465 votes
Jackson had no chance of winning, but his name was placed in nomination.

1988:
Jesse Jackson – 1218 votes
Jackson had no chance of winning, but his name was placed in nomination.

2004:
John Kerry: 2192.5 Pledged delegates
Howard Dean: 114.5 Pledged delegates
Dean had already dropped out, with no chance of winning, but his name was placed in nomination.

2008:
Barack Obama: 1766.5 Pledged delegates
Hillary Clinton: 1639.5 Pledged delegates

History will reflect very badly on the Democratic Party if they do not allow the candidate with the highest number of Primary votes ever to place her name in nomination.

Your choice DNC.

And delegates who are signing the petition, just ignore these anti-democratic calls to stop and continue anyway.

s. hall

Robert — we have moved on. We are voting for McCain–and there are millions of us Democrats who will not vote for Obama. When Obama loses in November perhaps he could run in one of the other countries of which he’s citizen.

Robert

so you’re a west virginia democrat (i.e. racist)

trixta

Didn’t the DNC give all of the MI Undecided votes to Obama–and give 4 delegates from Hillary’s total to Obama too?

By your logic, then, none of this should count.

Robert

Uh, yeah…that’s my very simple point. If it makes y’all feel better, take ALL the MI delegates. Still lost. Move on.

s. hall

Robert — what are you doing here? Its over man–you lose.

Robert

in what way? Obama – my candidate – won. He’ll win the general…and all you DINOs, PUMAs, Dixiecrats and racists will be left alone with your doomsday cult buddies.

Hope Floats

Hillary was up 20 pts. in the polls going into MI. BS BO got the psychic vote. He took his name off the ballot in an orchestrated effort to discount the primary results. What a POS. He should’ve got NOTHING. You move on, Robert. The Democratic party fucked this election up. I have moved on from my disappointment with the primary results, but I’m perfectly fine with voting for John McCain instead of Barack Obama. I don’t care about loyalty, unity or what Hillary wants. I care about voting for the best candidate IMO. You have your own opinion. Go somewhere you can share it with like-minded folks instead of bitching to us for your candidate’s less than stellar performance.

s. hall

Robert — nor will it change the fact that you are stupid.
http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

obama removed his name from the Michigan ballot. He was not required to do so. It is his own fault.
Tyrione

The canard is to weight caucuses greater than general primary votes and disenfranchising the popular votes of Michigan and Florida while stealing delegates from both of those states.

Hate to pea in your wheaties, but up here in Washington State we lost our primary because we we’re waiting on the Supreme Court to rule on our primary system–we were forced to eat a Caucus.

The primary not counting still had Clinton and Obama [if a weighted distribution were measured for delegates via a primary and not a caucus] an even split.

Instead, he netted over 20 delegates generated mainly from King County.

Our Primary System was upheld and I see it to become a trend in all 50 States.

http://www.secstate.wa.gov/elections/Top2Primary.aspx

Which two nominees, regardless of party, get the top two votes they become the run-off in the General Election.

They could be both Independents, Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, Greens, whatever.

Robert

once again in English, please?

look you simpletons – the rules were the rules. leaders in FLA and MI broke ‘em and so they forfeited their delegates. if you people want to blame anyone for their predicament blame the leaders in those states. it was made perfectly clear that to move up was to risk forfeiture – and that’s exactly what happened. none other than HRC herself said, and I quote: “I signed the DNC pledge not to campaign, not to spend money in any of the states that did not comply with the rules established by the DNC. It’s clear this election they’re having is not going to count for anything.”

they are not going to count for anything! you’re candidate. you lose. move on.

StrawberrybitesBarky

Jesus, you can’t even master the shift key and you call us ‘simpletons’? And would it kill you to spellcheck?

HRocks

Darragh and Will – Excellent Job!! You both refused to get off focused and you got your points across.
Karma

Excellent job….

Considering the rapid fire questions solely used to stifle the answers. Darragh and Will presented a lot of information.

It is abundantly clear where these Obot get their talking points from though. They have no sense of history that this is convention tradition. None of the MSM is attempting to inform them either.

No wonder they come here insisting these foolish things.

It still blows me away that his supporters accept all the lies Obama tells. As well as, from the same media that lied to them repeatedly about Bush AND the Iraq war.

How many times does the MSM have to lie to them before they start to question what they’ve heard and say….’Hey wait a minute?!’

Did their mothers fail to teach them critical thinking skills?
Robert

Oh my god, you people are pathetic.

This Darragh and Will duo exhibited all the elements of cultists. “I support the democratic process, and I’m a lifelong Democrat but I contribute to McCain in the 2000 primary and am going to vote for McCain in the general because I want to change the DNC.” Whaaaaaat? Wow, that is the mother of all nonsequiturs…but I’m sure the tortured logic makes complete sense to all you PUMA cult members. Then again, since your PAC can raise only 50k, maybe there really aren’t all that many of you.

And you all want to talk about flip flopping how about PUMAs flip flopping on what PUMA even stands for.

Or how about Hillary voting to support war and then trying to run like hell from that vote. You know and I know that she bought into the BS that this would be a clean win and she didn’t want to be on the wrong side of a military victory.

Oh, BTW, I would have voted for Hillary if she was the nominee beause I’m a DEMOCRAT.

Donna Brazile

Yo Rob man!

You got a beef with us? What’s yo problem?

We are SO proud that you are a DEMOCRAT! No one here would have believed it if you hadn’t like capitalized it and all.

I just want to say your dedication to the DEMOCRAT party is breath taking. Keep it up. Maybe you should be recruiting new voters for the ONE instead of wasting your time with all these dead enders.

Power to ROB the DEMOCRAT! Here ye, here ye!!!

Stop the hate!

Robert

You betray your Republicanism/Dittoheadedness with this, “DEMOCRAT party”.

And it’s “Hear ye, Hear ye”. See, the phrase means “Listen, you”.

Hope Floats

Well, you are here instead of there, and nobody can hear you scream on the internet. Chew on that.

http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

LOL, got that right!
apparently he listened when you said “here”, just like a good puppy should.

Donna Brazile

See he can’t even get the subtle hint!

Go ye Go ye, Robbie!

Stop the hate!

Robert

There isn’t much subtle on this board, particularly the irrationality of the dead enders.

You lost. Move on. Hell even your candidate wants you to.

WildChild

we have moved on… to McCain. LOL and soeBOBO made is way more easy then we would have originally thought

HRocks

Robert
That’s 50k just for PumaPac. That’s just ONE organization under JustSayNoDeal.

It’s great that you’re a DEMOCRAT, then you support the democratic process and want what’s best for the country.

Robert

You’re right..I do want what’s best for the country. And that means not letting McCain nominate the next 2-3 SC Justices. Or continuing the black hole funding of the Iraq debacle. Or continuing the disastrous tax policies of the last 3 Republican presidents. Or put another unqualified war monger in a position of authority. Or put a 72 year old man stuck with a Vietnam-era foreign policy filter on his world view in the Oval Office.

If anyone in here is truly a Democrat you’d untwist your panties and do the right thing in November.

Hope Floats

Excuse me, but the Democratic Congress has the power of the purse, so funding the Iraq war black hole is equally of their doing; they have enabled Bush corruption. Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Kerry and so on have *never* stood up to Bush. It is the job of the Congress to approve all SCOTUS appt’s, and if the President is McCain, he’ll have to compromise with them. Regardless of which candidate is elected, the next justices will be women and / or Hispanics. I can even give you names and the link to an article.

Nicole

Absolutely, Hope!

Robert doesn’t quite get it (like many, many low-information Obamaphiles).
Robert

You have a point, but did Clinton stand up against Bush when it came time to do the thing that was so obviously right and vote NO against this war in the beginning? Did she vote NO against naming Iran’s revolutionary guard a terrorist organization?

WildChild

so obviously right to oppose it ? Yet it had around 70% support from the country at the time. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

We can’t do the right thing because the other option (bo) is even worse.
Give us a candidate worthy of our vote and we will vote for him/her. BO isn’t worthy of our votes and he will not get them.
http://motorcityliberal.blogspot.com Motorcityliberal

Sorry Rob I knew you spent alot of time coming up with that comment but it doesn’t hold water to support voting for Obama stance. The Democrats in congress had every legal chance to push back on the Bush agenda yet they forgo their constitutional(sp)duties because they were scared of Republicans calling them anti America. But let’s go back to the 1990s the Republicans used their abilites and every trick in the book to block things Clinton wanted to do yet there are very few Democrats in congress who talk big for a little while and then caved in to Bush’s demands.

We wouldn’t have Alito or Roberts if a hand full of Democrats said something but all they did was give out these half ass statements of I don’t endorse this person yet they allow them to get hearings and confirmed. As for the war Obama voted to fund the war every time and on top of that the dude prefers not to vote on issues that would harm him politically either so he can play both sides of the issue depending on where the poll numbers are.

I’m probably in the minority of people who’s going to sit this election out because I see no good choices. My objection to Obama is simple Obama copied and used the Bush/Rove playbook against Hillary Clinton and then team Obama/ DNC used the RNC playbook of how to get out or surpress the vote.

Robert

sorry, but if every democrat had voted as obama advocated there would be no war to fund in the first place.

and still the point is simply this…in november you’ll have 2 choices McCain or Obama…rant all you want at congress…the president sets the agenda.

WildChild

soeBOBO said his position on Iraq wasn’t much different from Bush’s

trixta

Don’t lie!

BTW, didn’t your savior candidate flip flop on the following?

*FISA
*Choice
*Nafta
*gun control
*Faith-based government funding

And didn’t he vote to fund the War consistently?

Of course he did, which shows that he lacks the courage of his convictions.

Tell me, will your Messiah also move to privatize Social Security or will he just wave his magic wand and make everything all right?

tzada

He will wave his magic wand (otherwise called Executive Order) and give repartations to some of the US population, ~~otherwise known as~~ ~~vote buying~~ ~~or repaying a secret promise~~

http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

Then when Hillary takes the nomination, you will vote for her?
Good
Postmaster

Robert, you certainly are a democrat, you’re supporting the jackass….yep! Country before party, make sense to you? guess not.

http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal Paul F. Villarreal

Will and Darragh did FANTASTIC. Thank you, both. You guys did marvelously.

Bravo.
http://! Clinton Fan

Wow, that was a swell interview…and I love the way that stupid Schuster wants us to be idiots like the Obamabots.

We love PUMA.

And it isn’t Clinton’s job to “support” PUMA, it is PUMA’s job to represent people like ME. And they do it well.

Yes, we LOVE PUMA. We most certainly do. This IS about the Democratic PROCESS!! Fucking DS, telling people to roll over and enjoy the rape–what an asshole!

Shuster, as the kids say, got PWNED. He tried like hell to be snarky and catch them out, but he couldn’t keep up. If he had bothered to try to have a decent conversation, instead of trying to play a gotcha game, he might have done better. Instead, he looks like what he is….an ASS.

Darragh is FIERCE; Will is BRILL! And Schuster is a fucking loser!

I have to say, well done, well held!
AnnieO

It’s funny that the msm just doesn’t get it (or chooses not to get it).

When will they learn that the Republican thing just doesn’t mean anything. If I found out tomorrow that PUMA was started and funded by Republicans (not that it will), I couldn’t care less. At least somebody understood what was going on.
http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com Gloria

Shuster began to sound frantic…at least Darragh and Will didn’t completely lose their cool.

It had to be the stupidist interview I’ve seen in a long time…
Larse12

Schuster’s an ass. When he talks his mouth moves like Dick Morris! Yuck! I think Will and Darragh did great. God Bless you and keep up the good fight.
We shall win this battle.
judd

I would have said:

Times changed from June 7

Obama flipped on every issue he stood on in the primary since June 7.

What makes the MSNBC think Hillary does not want to be POTUS?

She can change her mind too.

Those guys represented groups who are pissed at the DNC.

All they needed to say was just wait and see in November…………………………..

Hillary won the popular vote what the hell was that guy talking about?

s. hall

Hillary winning the Popular vote wasn’t part of Shuster’s talking points. Therefore, it didn’t happen.

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/18/born-in-the-usa/#more.3665 pumawhisper

Thanks Will and Murphy, I never watch MSNBC and appreciate this clip and lets me know why I don’t watch. What an idiot? Can’t even research the numbers of the popular vote correctly.

I believe these to be correct:
Obama 17,869,542 47.4%
Clinton 18,046,007 47.9%
(of course depends on counter who may or may not count Michigan and Florida and Puerto Rico for some reason of course you could get different numbers)

Neither had enough delegates overall yet they forced super delegates to endorse to put him over the top so they could CLAIM he was the nominee.

The distortions of MSNBC news and others should be
charged for spreading false information. Someone should get a notarized final voting tally and publish it and get all these rumors corrected then maybe people would quit saying HILLARY LOST, SHE DIDN’T, BUT HER NOMINATION WAS HIJACKED AND DELEGATES STOLEN ETC. ETC. SHE WON THE POPULAR VOTE.

janine

and that is the truth because you say it is. her nomination was hijacked how??? because she did not get the delegates she wanted from MI and FL? states which SHE said did not count BEFORE she started to lose? if you count the elections in FL and MI it would be totally bogus – unfair elections because it was not a clean slate that people were voting for.
hillary knew the deal, McAuliff himself said (in HIS book I might add) that when MI threatened to move up their primary in 2004, that if that happened the delegates would not be seated, period, and the DNC would not be bullied. He was a total fool when presented with his words and had absolutely NO answer.

Wisewoman

Silly as*hole. Do you believe everything the MSM says? That is not the complete statement of what Hillary initially said about MI and FL. She continued with something to the effect that the two states were very important and that she thought everything would eventually be worked out. The MSM deliberately cut off her comment after the first sentence. I saw one network (Fox or CNN) report the full statement only one time. After that they fell in line with the rest of the media. they all cover each others ass. Because you are a snotnosed idiotbot you are ignorant of this fact too.

skmf12

it was only a minute ago, that little rat bastard
was a nobody!
wait he’s still a nobody!!!

my question is why didnt they know that hillary
won the popular vote?
pleeeeeeeease….

how do they not know that?…

best thing they could have done, is ask to be
interviewed by someone other than a junior reporter…
PewL

David Gergen on CNN tonite, said Obama’s process of this entire convention, has been a disgrace.He thinks Obama changing his mind,putting people in to speak,and taking people out. Does not look good for Obama.

Would be a good write up,for the leaders of this board.

s. hall

pewl — Obama will not allow Rangel, Jackson and Sharpton to speak. Obama doesn’t give a shit about anyone but himself. He ain’t a Dictator yet. First he has to get elected and by tossing aside everyone whose votes might matter he is making that almost impossible.

Nicole

I understand their decision not to include Jackson who, after all, wanted to irreparably damage O’s nuts…and the Obama camp clearly think distancing themselves from Sharpton is the smart thing to do. But, the Rangel decision is just downright petty and doesn’t bode well for O if he manages to win the WH (which is a long shot, for sure).
janine

that’s because he has to let Bill, Hillary, Chelsea speak.
Elle

He’s channeling President Soeharto (dictatorial Indonesian President when he was living there).

Danny

I’m standing with Darragh and Will!

MSNBC has steadily gone down hill while towing the heavy burden of supporting Barry up hill.

MSNBC cheated the people out of the truth so they could get in bed with the thugs from Ayers, Wright, Pfleger, Black Liberation Theology, Oprah, Shriver, Edward Kennedy, Kerry, Caroline Kennedy, Barry Soetora and his whole Kenyan – Indonesion connections.

I wouldn’t vote for Donna Brazilles lying liar if you paid me.
Obama is a bum

I don’t watch MSNBC because it is Obama’s election headquarters and this clown from msnbc is an absolute jerk. He feels no one is allowed to think for themselves and they should all fall in line for Obuma. I would love to tell this clown off.

UNITED STATES FIGHTING AGAINST OBAMA!
Danny

I am a PUMA I am Alive and have started a New Beginning in Personal Voting Rights. I will vote for my Country before I vote for a selected party candidate. The person who gets my Democratic Process vote shows that they can tell the truth, are full of integrity and know justice.

It is the DNC and the thugs from the Black Caucus that have chosen to select.

“Barry Soetoro the dead ender”

The Democratic Party just didn’t get it. They thought they could just give us Obama and we would all get in line. It doesn’t work that way in the Democratic Party and they know that. If they had a fair process that didn’t include lying and cheating we would all be behind the nominee right now. BUT they cheated and stole it.

I have to say I love the carnival of begging tricks the Obamabots like Brazille, Stephanie Miller, Ed Schults and others are doing for us now that they know they can’t win without us. They are trying so hard every trick they can think of to try to get us to play with them now – AFTER they blatantly threw sand in our faces smeared it in hated Hillary live for the nation to witness, told us they didn’t need us and now just want to have drinks and vote for the O pie hole. Not a chance idiots! THE DNC BLEW IT!

janine

Obama will win with or without you….don’t worry about it.

Andy Lewis

Shuster ain’t nuthin’ but shit. All he did was ask questions and then answer them before his guests could open their mouths.

He lied about Obama winning the popular vote, then insinuated that his guests were lying when they corrected him. What a jag.
Carolyn Mann

Thanks for posting the Hardball clip. As hard as that was to watch, at least I didn’t have to watch an hour of that jackass just to see this one interview. I thought Will and Darragh did pretty well. They got some good points in — the best, I thought, was debunking the lie that they, and by extension, we, are Republicans. Yes, they got steamrolled a little, but it’s pretty hard to stand up to barrage after barrage of rapid fire, leading questions that you are not then given much of an opportunity to answer. All in all, I didn’t think it was that bad.

P.S.: Am watching a rerun of Special Report on Fox News and the all-knowing, all-seeing pundits on there think Hillary has pulled one over on Obama in having her name placed in nomination, not to mention negotiating speaking slots for her whole family. In their opinions, she has won the day and stolen his thunder at the convention.

CheapEmptySuit

I wish they would sit up straight and not slouch.

democrats4barr

so where’s that 6 million guys? notice how Will went silent.

s. hall

democrats for barr — The 6 Million was raised to pay down Hillary’s debt. Got it?????

JohnT

BREAKING NEWS – IMMEDIATE ACTION: Send your letter to your state secretary and Attorney General of Hawaii to challenge Obama-Soetoro’s technical qualifications–legal name, birth certificate. Only 9 days away from the Convention; every second is vital for us now to remove Mr Barry HUSSEIN from the nomination.

Do not listen to Bot trolls and Rep trolls.

Act NOW!

tzada

Just got some news today. A close relative of mine is friends with a legislative aide. They are Republican but hey they don’t want Obama either. I am goint to try and talk with him and see if he can help.

Country before Party

judd

OK I would like to know where to go and what to do in Denver as far as rallies and so forth. Does anyone know if there is a coordinated schedule of all the pro Hillary rallies where we will not get hauled off to the concentration camps and speaking of concentration camps has anyone found anything more about them?
larryisaliar

Shuster just owned them with simple question. They claim they raised million for Hillary Clinton, and they were just outed as fake. WHat a bunch of douches.

BarrySoetoroluvsUs?

Do you have a reference?

larryisaliar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3Cv8CVjQTc

In this youtube clip, WIll Bower said:

“Our most conservative estimates have it at six million but we’re looking more at $10 million. Our sources tell us that the debt is now less than $5 million from being in the black… we believe that by this weekend that Hillary’s debt will be finished.”

Pink Panther

Thank you.

s. hall

larry — one more time for idiots. the 6 million was raised to pay down Clinton’s debt — the $50,000 is their pac money. So glad you were amused.

Ed

Maybe Shuster came across as an ass, but it’s because he was having such a fun time in the interview. This was the kind of interview that talk show hosts LIVE for. To use a boxing analogy, Shuster was just stepping in for some quick, playful jabs on an opponent that he didn’t fear…and they never put a glove on him.

Surely someone else could have done a better job than Bower & Murphy…they were just pathetic. Some might say the have a weak case to make, but I’ve got to think that a high school debate team could have put on a better performance than Bower & Murphy.

But hey, it could have been worse…Matthews could have been in the office today.

s. hall

ed — It was supposed to be an interview not an interrogation. The word came down to destroy PUMA’s credibility and like the loyal employee thats what he tried to do. People like Shuster are not used to honest principled individuals–he looked like the know nothing blowhard he is.
http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

They did an excellent job of not playing his game. He sat there screaming as they patiently waited, gave as much of an answer as he would allow before screaming over them and waited again.
They looked like intelligent, calm people, he looked like a McCarthy agent trying to force people to confess to being communist when they weren’t.
They should have started a conversation between themselves and ignored him or just refused to answer anything. Even better, ask if he was going to let them asnwer the question before they started.
http://lnab.newsvine.com/ Linda

I like both Will and Darragh…but I have to agree, damage was done to PUMA’s credability with this interview.
http://lnab.newsvine.com/ Linda

I like both Will and Darragh…but I have to agree, damage was done to PUMA’s credibility with this interview.
Francis

Matthews would have destroyed these two repugs. Remember what he did to Obama’s TX Senator. Collective ouch all around!

suz

MSNBC really has become Fox News’s opposite number. I thought Darragh and Will were excellent; they did better than most people can under the assault that passes for an interview on these absurd programs. They couldn’t choose the topics and they didn’t get the script beforehand, after all, and they weren’t allowed much time to answer before he began hectoring them again with his annoying beside-the-point questions. (Has anyone ever tracked the respective percentage of time in these “interviews” that the interviewer and the interviewees speak?) Short of getting into a shoutfest with the a-hole, what else could they have done to make their points? They kept their cool and their class in their encounter with this idiot, and they made the Nobama movement look solid.
lusitania

I saw the interview with Cavuto as well. He did act terribly. I love you Dara and Will,and I am sorry to have to be critical, but you have to be prepared that these jerky boys will try their best to make you look bad. Stick to the message don’t let them run you in circles, and never let them have the last word.You were both too polite.

Anyway,keep up the good work. Hillary in 08.

s. hall

lusitania — Will and Darragh did a great job. I watched Corsi on Larry King the other night and they destroyed this man. He thought he was coming on to talk about his book Obamanation–he was shell shocked. This is what the media does–

OnTheReal

Will Bower and Darragh Murphy were unprepared and unprofessional. Schuster undressed them with simple, probing questions. How could these dolts NOT be prepared to answer them. Bower/Murphy are lucky he did not dwell on the claims Bowers made about resolving Hillary’s debt or the travesty of a conference run by Murphy. The clock is ticking, soon we will know all about Hillary’s debt and the fraud that Bowers is as well as what you clowns will do after Senator Obama is indeed nominated in a few days. I guess you will all have to start eating dirt again, sucks for you!
markd

pumapac is not puma.

puma/j.s.n.d is a broad coaliion. the reporter did not do his homework.

janine

the reporter never said they were the same…the guests explained PUMA and PUMA Pac.

kat in your hat

Hello Pumas! (morning)

I just watched the Hardball interview, and I have to say: WOW! Murphy and Will were fantastic. First of all, they looked good (physically), and each brought up such excellent points! Murphy and Will had an excellent rebuttle for every argument.

I don’t watch MSNBC, but is that Shuster guy the same one who said that Chelsea Clinton was getting “pimped out” by her mother? What a sleaze. LOL. The gang at Obama’s MSNBC is just so smarmy, boy he probably really wanted to go after Puma since so many of us (as well as Senator Clinton) were offended at his low-brow sexist “pimped out” remark and complained about it.

Like many critics, he is clueless that Puma Pac is NOT the entirety of Puma, just totally clueless. He also couldn’t figure out that Murphy contributed to McCain during the primaries nearly a DECADE ago!! LOL…he thought it was a current contribution. Very poor research on his part, which doesn’t surprise me, since MSNBC is such a joke.

For all the arguing and all the disagreeing, no one is going to change my vote to an inexperienced candidate. That’s the bottom line: Obama will not get my vote. Obama will not get many many votes from democrats. Maybe THEY need to “get over it.”

Well, it was a very good interview in the sense that Shuster looked like a fool and the Puma message was heard loud and clear.

I don’t think some people realize how little respect many of us have for MSNBC. It truly took a lot of patience to go on Sleazeball. Meanwhile, think about it: Obama won’t even go near Fox and he wants to be president!! All Glory No GUTS.

So, I just wanted to say: Excellent Job Guys! Very impressive!

s. hall

all glory no guts is right. Obama won’t debate — Obama won’t go on Fox. This is the fearful leader the Obamabots love. I would like to have asked Shuster — you obviously see something in Obama that millions of Democrats do not–WHAT IS IT?
kat in your hat

Shuster ALSO didn’t know how much Puma Pac raised, even though it is public information, fully disclosed to the FEC according to the law.

Investigative journalism is totally dead, it’s nothing but talking head idiots on TV these days, rambling about “pimping out” daughters.

Where was he getting all of his false information?? Did he not understand that he could look up how much money a Pac gets??? Wow, very clueless.

Someone should let him know that he got several of his “facts” wrong, perhaps someone wanted to make him look clueless?
Justsaygoodriddance

Nobody gives a hoot about the little respect you covert republicans have for MSNBC. You are a joke. Those two, Bower and what’s her name, looked foolish. They got wrecked. You could see it in Bower’s face. Watch it again.

tzada

If they did so bad and Obama is doing so well, then why are you ~~trolls~~ people here in force? Is this site getting too much attention? You are jealous, afraid? Or just getting in practice for the regime that you hope will be here if the NONe NESS is elected? Of course you see yourelves as his enforcers. Oh really? Dream on. I think hordes of Kenyas and Indonesians will pour into the USA. You really think you can keep them from taking what they want? Your nice shiny car, your sister or wife or daughter, hey maybe your man. Who is gonna stop them? There is a pattern with Barry, he uses and discards.

doctorwang

“I think hordes of Kenyas and Indonesians will pour into the USA.”

Don’t forget about the legions of Obamotrons in their shiny spaceships who are poised and ready to swoop down and probe us anally with their tire gauges.

“You are……afraid?”

Damn right I am !!!

http://motorcityliberal.blogspot.com Motorcityliberal

Republicans you Obama followers make Bush supporters look rational, all Davey Shue did was repeat Obama campaign talking points. Eww you gave money to McCain eight years ago sure but David was whoring for the Bush white house 3 years ago.

s. hall

Shuster had his talking points. The truth mattered less than his being able to work these points into the conversation. The Obama Campaign decided it was time to destroy the credibility of PUMA and this was just the first day.

Isn’t it wonderful to live in a free country — with a free media.

kat in your hat

I don’t see it as destroying any credibility, because the bottom line is truth: Most Pumas are democrats who won’t vote for Obama, and nothing can change any of that. If you take away all arguments: the bottom line is how we VOTE, and that is all that matters. You know?

It’s like you can call me every name in the book right before I step in the voting booth: It’s NOT going to make me vote differently.

These people are not very bright, they think they can insult people into voting differently?

It doesn’t even make sense.

http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

It’s a shame that the English language is constantly evolving. There was a day when anyone named “Shuster” would never be employed in the news business merely because it was so close to the word “Shyster”. It appears that even though the language has changed and that word isn’t used much any more, that Shuster STILL EQUALS Shyster.
Justsaygoodriddance

They got destroyed! Ah-ha! If you don’t see that, then well…

kat in your hat

“Destroyed” LOL…I don’t think so, I think it was a good interview and Will and Murphy were very tough and had immediate answers.

“Shyster” didn’t know what he was talking about, (literally) he got so many of his “facts” wrong–very striking.

BTW…what has changed?

Puma is still here.

Justsaygoodriddance

What has changed? Not much from the look of some these insane posts. You might want try having a name that doesn’t include the word ass, if you want to be taken seriously. Hillary certainly doesn’t take you seriously. You probably don’t really care about that though considering the fact that so many of you are republicans.

kat in your hat

I would argue that “ass” actually brought MORE press, and helped spread the word, which I am sure you have already figured out. We are already taken seriously since we get press and YOU obviously care enough to argue with us. We would be totally ignored if no one took us seriously enough to pay attention to us, and spend time on us, and you know it.

How do you know what Hillary takes seriously or not? Hillary is not a puma. So? Also considering the “fact” that most of us are republicans? How is that a “fact”? lol!

Justsaygoodriddance

Oh, just admit it already.

Justsaygoodriddance

More press does not mean you are being taken seriously.

kat in your hat

I can argue that no press could mean one is NOT taken seriously as well.

Justsaygoodriddance

That Burger King employee who took a bath in the Burger King sink got alot of press the other day on cnn, fnc, msnbc. I don’t think people take him seriously. Shyster as you call him thought those clowns in that interview were ridiculous and proved it. You could see it in Bowers face. Watch it again. Some times people make a big stink and yeah it might get some press.

kat in your hat

I agree with you, likewise, Obama gets a great deal of press (in his favor, I might add, while not getting vetted), and people make a big stink about him. I guess it is subjective, huh?

http://www.pumaalliance.wordpress.com hillgal08

yup.

and I don’t understand why some in the media won’t say it.. I find that really funny

Party unity my beep lol. JUST SAY IT!!!

ass is the democrat logo as well (donkey) so what gives? It works on more than one level.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Democratslogo.svg

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=ass

PARTY UNITY MY ASS!

http://www.pumaalliance.wordpress.com hillgal08

well I have no idea why that reply didn’t nest with the post I was replying to!

Perry Logan

If calling us racists didn’t work, calling us Republicans will surely do the trick. Those Obamites are just too clever for us.

Justsaygoodriddance

I thought it was Obamabot or bamabot

http://www.pumaalliance.wordpress.com hillgal08

obamite, obamabot, obatron, o go away.

http://motorcityliberal.blogspot.com Motorcityliberal

Justsay
Are you in your mother’s basement beating off to Obama speeches while you being a troll?
just go back to Hope..Change..ah…hope and change…ahhhh Ma!! where the tissue paper?

Justsaygoodriddance

Wow you got me on that one! No one has ever accused a troll of living and jerking off in his mom’s basement before, how did you come up with that? You must be proud.

Curtis

The host of this show is such a jerk!

Justsaygoodriddance

The host of this show is such a great guy!

kat in your hat

You would think a guy who says that President Bill Clinton’s daughter is getting “pimped out” is a “great guy,” which shows your character.

Justsaygoodriddance

I think he was good in that interview. I was just having fun with Curtis’ comment. That Chelsea thing was dead wrong, I know.

Eidnoreid

all he pretty much did was spew obama’s talking points.
Nicole

You’re a lousy troll…completely unprepared.

bmc

Kissy and the rest of the Obot-trolls around here are cheering on David Shuster–a wingnut reporter who was part of the Fox team and the GOP assault that propagandized Whitewater in order to destroy Bill and Hillary Clinton throughout the 90s.

What is wrong with Obots? Are they so stupid they don’t even know the difference between a progressive and Republican? Oh, right. With Soetoro/Obama, there isn’t any difference anymore.

Well, no wonder they’re confused.

tj

Most of the Obobts are in there early twenties or late teens. They do not even research who they are voting for and have no idea what they are doing to the country let alone themselves by voting for this man. I know a person who never watches anything about the candidates but will still vote for BO because he is better than Hillary. This person can not name any reasons as to why this is so, but will defend BO relentlessly. It seems that you can not even try to talk politics with these individuals since they are so brainwashed that they cannot see the real facts.

They want to change America but when it comes down to the primary where will they be? Out partying or playing computer games

http://www.konformist.com Robert Sterling

This video is absolutely bizarre. On one hand, the host talks about the democratic process. On the other hand, he seems to be outraged at the notion that anyone who considers himself a Democrat could actually choose to not vote for Barack Obama in November. Sorry, dude, democracy means you can vote for whoever you want to, not who the DNC tells you.

Even more hilarious, he is ready to slice up this PUMA group for his false belief they’ve raised millions of dollars, as proof that it’s a GOP front. Once his belief is shown incorrect, he switches his argument upside down, and claims that since it has only raised $50K it clearly isn’t a politically powerful movement. Besides showing he is willing to twist his argument to any facts before him, it shows his actual contempt for democracy. According to him, the figure that matters isn’t the 18 million Hillary voters but the mere $50K that this PUMA group has raised.

You want proof the media mouthpieces are shilling for Obama, you have to look no forward than this. In the 80s, when Democrats voted for GOP candidates, they were referred to as “Reagan Democrats” and viewed as voters that have been betrayed by their party. Cut to 2008, and the PUMAs are viewed as enemies of democracy who need to shut up and get over it. This sounds more like Bush 2000 arguments than proponents of democracy

In 2004, I wrote the book 50 Reasons Not to Vote for Bush, so I think it’d be hard to label me as a GOP shill. Well, all I can say is as much as I have deserved disdain for McCain and his agenda, I think the Obama agenda is going to be worse, as Obama will (as he already repeatedly has) betray his duped progressive base with his constant movement to the right. (And I do mean “right” and not “center” as it is commonly labeled.)

Robert Sterling
Author, 50 Reasons Not to Vote for Bush
http://www.konformist.com
http://robalini.blogspot.com
http://lnab.newsvine.com/ Linda

in the future, PUMA reps need have a script of talking points and outwit the interviewer in order to talk about them
http://www.pumaalliance.wordpress.com hillgal08

So why worry about us kissy? Just go away and keep convincing yourself. You are a very boring troll.

So Obama hit his 2 million, yeah most of them from Wall Street, some Oil lobbyists and from the Middle East. He is a fraud. LMAO at you fools for change. He is toast.
Silver

I thought Will and Darragh did a fantastic job!! Schuster was horrendous!!
fif

Well…I came on this thread late, and it’s verrry interesting to see that all the Bots are here, desperately defending their sinking ship. All this PUMA attention seems to really have their panties in a bunch.

There’s a reason Hillary refused to go on MSNBO. They are blatantly and aggressively promoting Obama’s candidacy. There is nothing legitimate about their “journalistic” methods. It’s just a forum to defend and aggrandize Obama and smear all things Clinton. It’s pointless and unproductive to give them the opportunity to spread their venom. They should do interviews where there is some semblance of objectivity. Then again, where would that be these days???? Australia maybe?
goldengrahme

The interview was typical of the infotainment
mentality…Schuster demonstratively true to that code: when on-air, create hype and overspeak pertinent points. It is a show of power to seem to control the discussion. Very macho to frame the debate around nonissues. Controlling pubic opinion is essential to maintaining the illusion of democratic process. And that was the prime argument by both interviewees: maintain the integrity of the democratic process. That flew over David’s head like an armed missile.
DancingOpossum

For me, the biggest mistake Obama made was playing the race card on his fellow Democrats–thereby destroying the Democratic Party.

Yeah, that’s a big one, although for me personally it was Florida/Michigan. But no matter: There are as many reasons to loathe Obama as there are to admire Hillary.

Looks like kissy got stood up for yet another date and has been sobbing into her Elmer’s glue and siphoning Daddy’s gin. Take heed, kids: This is your brain on O-Kool-Aid.
TomTom

Re all the upthread comments — kat got it kind of wrong — Darragh and Will were unimpressive, but maybe NOT because they are generally unimpressive, but they may have been unprepared for the kind of assault that Schuster carried out. That was no interview and they may have been expecting a real discussion. However, anyone who knows Schuster should have anticipated the put downs and attempts at diminishment.

So, as linda notes above, better preparation would help. Have your talking points. The MOST IMPORTANT TALKING POINT THEY FLUBBED ON was the “majority vote” that Shuster kept hammering home. Unfortunately, the weak comebacks by Will and Darragh on the popular vote allowed the myth to be set in concrete, that Obama won the popular vote.

Will needs to have the facts so firmly in his mind that he wouldn’t let Shuster or anyone like him get away with continuing that myth. Will — get your notecard ready for that one.

Who won the popular vote? Will — “depends on how you count it, but the analysis shows that in 3 out of 4 scenarios, Clinton won the popular vote NOT Obama. So quit trying to mislead the masses, Shuster! (be strong Will!) If you don’t believe me, go to http://www.DemocratInExile.com and read the analysis on the popular vote. Or, any other blog that has done the analysis.

The problem with us PUMAs, in a way, is that we are “unsophisticated” “mere” voters who are trying to organize quickly from the ground up, rather than well-financed from the top down… democracy is messy, but this is real democracy, Shuster. Stick that up your ass and sit on it for a week or so.
Hank

Get Hillary the Nomination, and Leave O-BUM-A by himself at the stadium with his loved ones.

RENEE

Yes !!!!

hill4pres

One thing for me, personally, I WILL ride the unity pony IF and only IF Hillary is the VP.

I know many puma’s don’t want her as the VP, but I think it would behoove PUMA/JSND to state that if HRC is not the nominee, then at the very least she should be the VP.

This is the only way that BHO can prove to HRC supporters that he is truly about party unity by making her the VP. If he choses anyone else, then he has proved that he is NOT about party unity.

She is the ONLY candidate that can bring him the votes and the win in November.

I wish PUMA would push THAT more even if Will and Daragh do not personally want her for VP.

HIllary -I believe- WANTS VP…

standard

She has to be president.
Obama is scared of her. She would be doing a lot of work, and would have to fawn and pretend and give him credit for her own sweat and brains.
NOBAMA

Peep

I do not miss the GE hacks.
http://www.gigglechick.com gigglechick

how can i put this eloquently?

Schuster is a tool.

(I haven’t had my coffee this morning, so, that’s as eloquent as I get at this moment… besides, Schuster is so smarmy and biased, he isn’t worth me cracking open my mental thesaurus this early.)

good job dealing with that boob.

tj

You both did the best you could. This guy is just a jerk. It really angered me that he thinkg $50000 is such a small amount of money. Ahh the thing I could do with $50000. We are people who are just trying to make it day to day and he blows us off as if we are mere peasants for the swatting. He also has the definition of democratic totally confussed with communism. We must do what Hillary asks us to do and vote for Obama? No I think not, we can still vote for whomever we want. As of today this is still a free country. What are they gonna do, kick us all out of the party? NOPE they want our money too bad!

Good attempt guys but it was a set up from the beginning. He obviously has been drinking to Koolaid!

http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com Sugar

Hey!!! I knew I should have come here last night because you guys would have the video! I saw them on by chance because my gym has the televisions tuned to MSNBC and the NBC affiliate due to the Olympics. I didn’t even know who the anchor was, and I couldn’t even hear it, refusing to actually listen, choosing to instead read the closed captioning. Even in reading it, I could tell that he was an asshole.
MomWhoCares4USA

What a presumptive a-hoal the interviewer is. Bower’s last statement that BO is the DNC’s selected nominee — not the Democratic nominee — was brilliant. NOBAMA.
dee4hill

This is the jerk that said the Clintons were “pimping” out their daughter (Chelsea) – and he’s supposed to be a member of our illustrious, objective news media? He’s an odious, infomedia Obama henchman. He, Matthews, and (argh) Olberman are in those chairs night after night for one purpose only – to promote their corporate interests
by browbeating and terminating anyone of opposing views.

Will and Darragh did a wonderful job, considering the jabbermouth’s incessant interruptions and contradictions, which informed viewers recognize as nothing more than prepossessed prattle.

Hillary or McCain ’08!!!
DancingOpossum

Just curious, why are there so many trolls wilding about today? Over at Alegre’s corner there was a warning about a sudden troll infestation (and it mentioned that NQ was getting some of the spillover sludge). Could it be The One’s steadily declining poll numbers? Did someone just tell them that the GE is not a caucus? (We aren’t entirely sure if most of them were aware of that.) Or are all their mumsies and daddies on vacation, leaving them with free reign of tha Intartubez and unrestricted access to Cheetos and Red Bull? By the way, ‘bots, Daddy can tell when you water down his vodka.

doctorwang

It was due to the Shuster interview. The public decided to check out some of the PUMA blogs in order to see for themselves who would be crazy enough to have Bowers and Murphy as their leaders. I guess some of them felt like they had to join in – to prove to themselves that the comments were coming from actual people.

HillGirl

Add this one to the mountain of reasons why I will not vote for Obama.
aspect

Hey how was the big PUMA conference last week? A whole 60 people showed up I read, wow! Couldn’t even hold in it Washington since too few people showed up. What a powerful movement you are.

http://motorcityliberal.blogspot.com Motorcityliberal

Funny I kept hearing a landslide for the false prophet by his flunkies on talk radio and the blogs yet he can only managed leads between 6 to 8 points and anytime Obama gets a lead more then 7 it quickly get reduced to 3 to 4 points. The Obama change movement is about real as 2000 dollar bill with George W. Bush face on it.

noproblama

Nice to see Schuster is still sucking some barney ass.
http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal Paul F. Villarreal

Off topic but I know people will be interested to see this.

I made a video demonstrating how David “Punk” Shuster lied repeatedly while interviewing Will Bower and Darragh Murphy last night on Hardball:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fXUqzTj910

Pass it on, and leave a comment if you can.

We’re not letting MSNBC or anyone else Swiftboat PUMA.

Andy

Excellent Paul !! Thank you.

Cixelsyd

Damn… I don’t even like Schuster, but he flat out WORKED those two over in that interview. He made them look absolutely foolish. Is this really the best public face PUMA can put forward? YIKES!!!

gentlerabbit

did he not? see my comment below because i still can’t believe that lame, trite, and tired effort those two put forward. he steamrolled their asses!

doctorwang

It was kind of embarrassing….

DancingOpossum

What a powerful movement you are.

Indeed. Did you see the Zogby polls this week showing that Obama’s support among DEMoCRATS has dropped to 75%? Do you think he can win with that? Oops, you’re an Obamabot, you will believe absolutely anything!

AX10

Can we get that down to 60% by November?!?

cathnealon

“He worked them over” wow, maybe he should have used some torture techniques to get them to denounce Hillary and go for his boss, the One. Kind of makes the whole idea of an open, non biased interview defunct. Well, I think Darragh and Will will be better prepared next time and by October when the dirt on BO really starts flying they should be ‘media saavy.’ At least they didn’t do as badly as the Marxist, with alot of ‘uh’s,ums.uhs.ums.’And they surely didn’t come acrosss as arrogant, condescending, passive aggressive minions like Obama and his people.
DancingOpossum

I thought the did well but they should have jumped all over Schuster’s stupid and fact-free statements about the popular vote. That they didn’t gave him free reign to be even more of a jerk…And what was with his attempt to extract a loyalty oath from them??? I wish they had replied “Who I voe for is none of your damn business,” because it isn’t.

I think they were taken aback by his overt hostility.
gentlerabbit

ok. already i don’t understand why these two even appeared on tv and made no discernible points that i could see. darrah sat there all mealy mouthed and added nothing and made no points when she could have, and while will tried to be more forceful, he still was basically ineffective. what was up with that mess? only at the end did they even make the attempt speak to the issues of why obama is unacceptable. am i missing something? neither of them pointed to anything concrete, and all they could do was stutter! wow is right, wow what an unholy mess that pair turned out to be. david schuster said the group had only $50,000 dollars – soooooooooo, why didn’t darrah point out that well, here they were on tv, msnbc at that, so what did the 50 thou matter?! dang. next time they need to be ready to take advantage of the time and place and not be so damned lame assed.

Papoose

Darragh and Will knew they were on arch enemy turf.
Schuster hasn’t gotten over being spanked. Obviously.

Peekaboo, Barky, the Democratic Process is the Topic.

$50,000 in 2 months is not chump change. It’s the number of people who show up in Denver and on their streets due to this absurdity.

The Convention is not even necessary. It’s moot in Denver. We already had the fricken thing in Berlin, for the god’s sakes. Rerun.

August 28th ~ a Day That Will Live in Infamy. 2008

really?
msindy

if it’s so easy, why don’t you do it?

Anonym

There was someone else at that table. His name is God. And God had the last word, not those “experts”.

Tim is dead. The life of the emperor of the reporters was taken from him by God. God had the last say – and He agrees with the Clintons…
only it’s not the voters who were sexist… it was the reporters and their pretend experts.

Tim didn’t get to see the reporters’ messiah get coronated. Let that be a lesson for the other reporters of how God judged their prejudice, their influence peddling, their interference and saboutage of a democracy to satisfy their greed for ratings, their expressed resentment and hatred and belittlement of women.

Tim no longer served God’s purpose. And if the best reporter failed Him, and was no longer needed or trusted to reveal truth on earth, imagine how useless He thinks the others are.

Anonym

Oops… this should be under the NBC Tim Russert video conference of experts claiming the Clintons were treated fairly” which speaks for itself blog, not here… Sorry!

http://mitchellblatt.com/blog Mitchell Blatt

You should have been doing a better job of saying that Hillary won the popular vote. That guy said it quite a few times uncontested.
http://mitchellblatt.com/blog Mitchell Blatt

The host, I mean, said Obama won the popular vote very often, but was only contested once.
PewL

Oreily had an interesting show,,They mentioned two names Oprah,and Nancy p/ They didn’t have to say why they mentioned the two names. Because it was quite obvious,they were talking VP for Obama.They did mention Nancy P has a worst rating than Bush.If Clinton says goodbye to delegates on Tuesday nite,and they announce the VP on Wednesday nite.I can see Clinton taking a fall again,only for Pelosi.. This sounds like another set up,by the Dems to stop Clinton in her tracks..If Pelosi is the VP with Obama,or even with Clinton, I will stop watching it. It wouldn’t surprise me,if Clinton,ends up being the nominee, she had to take Pelosi as her running mate… This is pure BS if I’m right.
scotty

I thought Murphy and Bower did quite well, actually.

It’s not just Barky’s sham candidacy that’s causing me to flee from DLC-style extremism and ideological purity.

It’s these insane psychotics, these media savages like Schuster, Olbermann, Rhodes, etc.! It’s the whole approach they take, the minute they are confronted with anyone the least bit civilized.

Do they come with the “new” politics? The bots appear to be trained in the same “Obama Camps” their media shills are! And they are even more unlistenable then before.

Darragh and Will, I think you did very well, representing a growing movement, and demonstrating that we are angry but rational Americans, forced into choosing country over party in order to preserve our way of life, our government, our society, and our future.

Thank you.
Alien

This post has a busy co -ordinated Obamabot presence.

They can only be here in such a way because they are fishing . or their boss is worried.

They have not changed their sync method – one will do a direct attack & directly after they answer their own post -easy different internet hookup on another laptop -& try the nicey /nice line then the attack twist.

the question is -why do they need to come here at all?

obviously the 2 PUMA people made a hit.- most people can spot an abusive interrogator & that becomes the real memory. they think why is that guy so vexed?
http://BHOtroll uh uh uh uh uh uh uh obuh

Hill girl

you’re right! SCARE TACTICS OF DNC FOR THE WOMEN TO VOTE ODUMBER…

DNC WILL PAY DEARLY IN NOV. FOR TRYING TO BLACKMAIL AND MANIPULATE WOMEN VOTERS…

Woman

Some misguided women voters are mistakenly assuming that they can’t be replaced with genuine female Democrats come November. Overestimating their power, once again.

http://BHOtroll uh uh uh uh uh uh uh obuh

OBAMATROLLS

GO GIVE WAIKIKI BOY A B.J. AND GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE JERKS!

WATCH BARRY ON ‘BODY SURFING IN HAWAII VIDEO’ HIS SKNINNY UGLY BODY ALMOST DROWNED…

WHAT AN UGLY PIECE OF CRAP..IS MICHELE TRANSGENDERED?

Woman

It’s pretty clear who the jerk is. Thanks for the identifying yourself so promptly.

Woman

I thought Darragh and Will looked very weak. And sad.

When Schuster asked Barrow why he thought the primary system was undemocratic, Barrow’s first response was, “Do you really want to get into that?”

Sure, we all want to get into that. If you aren’t able to make that point, don’t accept invitations to appear on shows like Hardball.

And Darragh appeared mentally unstable. I know that’s difficult for some to hear, but that’s how she comes off. Probably because she is. And that’s the face of PUMA.

McCain will happily take the votes of disgruntled women. And happily take many of their rights away come January 2009.

What PUMA is really saying is g*damn the Democratic Party. Sounds a little Wrightian to me.
Neil

Schuster ate them both for lunch.
Neil

Holy shit, he talked about how a PUMA person lied and said they raised 6 million dollars but actually only raised $50,000. PWNED!!!!
Neil

Darragh Murphy appeared to be very monotone in answering questions not to mention looking very anorexic. One moment she is saying her purpose is to uphold the Democratic process, the next moment she says its to change the leadership of the DNC. One moment she says she is against Barack Obama, yet she would be willing to possibly vote for McCain even though his views do not resonate with hers at all.

Even Will Bower couldn’t hold his own, and he did a worse job. Schuster got him on the point that if Clinton were to get the nomination, it would have to be based on the change by Superdelegates which would overturn the popular vote of the people AND THAT is NOT including the caucuses that PUMAs hate. Then Will had to cower and say he was using different numbers, and Schuster had to tell him the numbers he had were wrong. I have a 5 year old brother that could fight better than he could.

All and all the PUMAs looked very unprepared. Did they not know this is Hardball where you’re asked tough questions. In the future, you make ALL Hillary Clinton supporters look spineless.
Neil

PUMA = People United My Ass
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God,HealTheTrolls

“Grant me the serenity to ignore the Obama trolls (for they know not what they are saying or doing), the courage to debate with honest opponents, and the wisdom to know the difference.”
http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

Who’s the idiot with all caps? It’s speaking a strange language and screaming. I bet it’s a bamabot. They all look the same after a while.
clik212

Kissy,

You are one angry wretch. It’s not about Obama or Hillary it’s about the democratic process, something you are not aware of. You don’t need to shout because your ignorance is loud enough. We are talking about an impostor and liar who changes his word faster than he changes his panties.

To paraphrase MLK, “Judge not a person by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.” We already have someone in the WH with no character, do we need to put in an equal opportunity opponent, to satisfy ignoramuses like you? Obama’s claim to the WH will be based on young privileged white kids who like him never had to do a hard day’s work or suffer the consequences of running on empty to make ends meet.

BTW, you might want to consider taking classes in English as a second language! A lot of us did because we love the country we live in and want to participate in its success and ideals. To me it is you who sounds like a loser trying to justify a wrong choice. You were a Hillary supporter? Naw.
nomnomnom1

Kissy MA.
http://! Buzz Latte

Nice use of big words, Kissy. But your true mental age of 11 is showing through.

Please go to some more Obot indoctrination classes before you come back. We need more effective trolls here.
s. hall

kissy — So you are going to vote for Obama–big F’n deal.
http://purplechiten.wordpress.com Chiten

They answered many questions, or at least started to before they were shouted over top of. Kind of like what you’re trying to do.
Doesn’t work so well on a message board, does it?
roseeriter

I had a cat named kissy..hope she didn’t reincarnate to be a bot of hypocrisy. Obama supporters are not democratic, they are mostly anarchists.
http://www.pumaalliance.wordpress.com hillgal08

I think you’re a Rebublican. I think a lot of the Obots are, just trying to stir the pot.
http://www.pumaalliance.wordpress.com hillgal08

not as much as it will hurt you when your hero loses.
tj

HMMM,
I think that this troll speaks in an unknown language. Ill bet its trollic. I could not understand a word he spoke. If this is they type of people BO has on his team we need to be really scared. None of us are perfect with spelling and grammer, but this troll has it really bad!
http://www.pumaalliance.wordpress.com hillgal08

name his accomplishments and tell us why your voting for him troll.
RENEE

You must be kidding me.I have had 4 calls at home in 24 hrs from the DNC- for Obama.They all expressed appologies and sadness when I spoke of All of my concerns.They was not gloating phone calls at all. All 4 callers were very concerned with the now “unpopular” issues that are mounting daily,and are in no way linked to race,religion,or any other bias.They relate to honesty,integrity,loyalty to our country and people,and the living of a life that isn’t tarnished by a made up story,with large parts ignored,censored,deleted or otherwise imbellished.I have never voted republican,but refuse to give my vote to Obama.You need to take a more honest view of why people feel the way they do, and ponder it honestly a bit.
RENEE

Laughing !!!!!. So sorry. I cannot help it.I cannot type well either but I am hysterically laughing. That person could sure use a copy of spell check at least ! Please ! I would not embarras myself to post if my writing had such a “primative” style. Was that a polite way to say it ?
RENEE

oops-they were not gloating phone calls at all-correction.
RENEE

Where did this person come from ? Bet you know alot about Hillary Clinton huh ?. Hummmmm….As much as you know about Obama, how to spell,compose a sentence,use a thought process etc.. ? Why would you attack a woman with her experience,education,ethics and class and lower your character ? ,not to mention your thoughts on her personal sex life ?. This is very interesting.Should you be in school perhaps ? Or reading ALOT more dear?. I am very glad to be a female that is reading ” everything I can find” to cast a vote in a fair election for my country.I hope,for us all that all of us “ladies” in the USA have more to offer the world then just “pleasing” our husbands.We can do” both” Please think before touching keyboard,after all,the whole world is watching and reading also.Do not make us look bad .
Donna Brazile

KIss-Aaaaaaaaaaa!

Ya don’t makeee any sense but I spect yo know that. Dontcha!

Stop the hate, hater!
Donna Brazile

Kiss-Aaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Down boy/girl/it!~

Stop the hate!