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Is Sarah Palin Your Cup of Tea?

Is she? I’ll tell you what I think if you tell me.

I truly enjoyed Sarah Palin’s speech at the Tea Bag Convention. For starters, she did NOT use a teleprompter. That suggests confidence, even though she had to glance at a script. Nevertheless, she looked right at us often enough (no POTUS “tennis game head”). She was peppy and sometimes funny, and that felt sincere, even if I don’t agree with many of her positions and how she explains things.

Also–and I don’t think it is sexist to note– she is really pretty.

In short, Sarah Palin is a great spokesperson for the Republican Party. She is likable as well–I never understood the hate and ridicule that some spewed out. She has accomplished more in her 40-some years than anyone I heard putting her down. Jealousy, probably.

She is adept at pointing out what is wrong with the current administration and Congress in an enganing manner. She nailed a lot of it, yet that’s not difficult to do with so much material to work with! But, when it comes to what needs to be done instead, well, she was rather weak and general. And, as helpful as I think she can be to the GOP, I don’t see her as a presidential candidate. She has more experience than our current POTUS, but, sadly, I see her as one more attractive rock star in a time when we need so much more at the helm. (Hillary–are you listening at all? Bill, could you talk to her?)

OK, how about you?

  • atti

    Absolutely!  She will make a fine POTUS.  Howd’ya think the Fraud is doin’?

  • WestVirginia304

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    Smart, energetic, sincere, etc.. My cup of tea?

    You betcha!

  • Ladydawnelle

    Palin with out the e

    before Obama – no, but then again before Hillary I would have said NO to an  X President’s WIFE

    I like integrity, candor, clever wit and someone I can tell is basically trying to lead a good life and set a good example for their family (with or with out kids)

    my only beef is she swings pretty far right sometimes and it’s like a sharp thorn from an otherwise beautiful rose I would never have considered 2 yrs ago.  you bettcha!

  • HARP

    While I would vote for her to become Pez, I think her calling is more like secretary of energy.

  • Ladydawnelle

    maybe Hillary would hire/appoint her? ;)
    After the last few days I’d be crazy to think Sarah OR Hillary don’t have future political plans.  It’s gonna be a weird year – 2012  (hope I live so long)

  • Anonymous

    meh, I don’t understnd the draw… I don’t ever feel like she has a command of issues.  Sure, she knows all the populist catchphrases, but I still wouldn’t be as comfortable as I would be with Hillary. (or mccain.)

    I feel like the popularity she has is similar to that of Obama… and I find that a dangerous thing moving forward.  No more american idol presidencies, please.

  • Dave

    I like Sarah, I think we would be better off with her than Obama.  I don’t think she is as stupid as the MSM makes her out to be.  I just think that because of the job the media did on her that she is a percieved liability to the conservative party.   

  • IndayHill

    :)  How about 2012, the Year of Women Presidential Candidates?
    Hillary vs. Sarah ?
    I’ll vote for Hillary, who deserves to be the POTUS (and NOT BO!)

    What a wishful thinking (sigh).

  • Darwin

    Sarah Palin’s going to run for president and the main stream media (like they did with Obama) will help her win the primary. It’s in the media and corporations interest to have an epic, media-controlled battle to enthrall the masses. And then just as quickly as they built her up, the msm will pull the rug out from under her and she’ll lose. Her supporters will cry foul and insist Obama cheated and/or stole the election from her, not realizing that it was all a set up from the beginning.

    As other posters have said, a good move would be to join someone elses cabinet. But she may have to wait until 2016 for that.

    Her best bet would be to settle down in a Republican/Tea Party stronghold state and run for Senator. She’d win handily and could then spend the rest of her political career safely befuddling her detractors.

  • Guest

    If her ultimate appeal allegedly lies in being an “ordinary American” she has less than a zero chance. First of all, the feeling doesn’t seem to be reciprocated, as most people have an unfavorable impression of Sarah Palin and something like less than 10% would definitely vote for her.  Americans also don’t share her populist view of the office. They want I want a President who’s superior in competence and problem solving. At the end of the day, “feeling” and “belief” don’t trump knowledge and education.

    if you want another 4 years of Obama’s all talk do nothing plan, by all means put her on the ticket.

  • Sally

    Is the fact that Iran will deliver a PUNCH to the west not worth talking about instead?!

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.e0b08e9e64fe15a987c1cf73dd8c5fe2.521&show_article=1

  • Puma Left-over

    I like Sara, but (always a but), her conservative position makes made want to spit at time, particularly her position regarding gays.  I voted for her and John McShame, I would vote for her again, but with a little caution, she needs to get the center on her social agenda.

    BTW – “For starters, she did NOT use a teleprompter” is true, but she had written notes on the palm of her her to remind herself of key talking points…..

  • Craig Della Penna

    When I first heard her in an interview, the questioner asked her about her views on abortion. Her answer was very nuanced and showed that she clearly understood the difference between her private beliefs and her responsibility as a publicly elected official.

    After that, I feel she’s completely at par with all the other politicians out there and has the added experience of running the largest state in the union for a couple of years – pretty successfully one might add.

    Given her positions on a number of issues, I’m unlikely to vote for her but my choice will be made on the content and quality of her thinking, not whether she’s ‘kewl’ or ‘hot’, male, female, black, white, or ___other.

  • Sally

    Iran promises this for this Thursday FEB 11!!!

  • Darwin

    Palin is opposed to abortion in almost all cases, including rape and incest, but not if the life of the mother is endangered. In 2006, while running for governor, Palin was asked what she would do if her own daughter were raped and became pregnant; she responded that she would “choose life”.

  • socalannie

    Another great toon & post!  Pat, I agree with everything you said!

  • Kathleen Wynne

    Sarah is working without a net, no free passes or excuses on her behalf, like obama; attacked daily for anything and everything she says, unlike obama, but still does better as a public speaker in connecting with the audience on a genuine level, unlike obama.

    I’m not going to judge her just yet because of the double standard being imposed on her (like Hillary) regarding her “grasp of issues” or ability to look and act “presidential”.  She’s got 3 years to get up to speed.  obama has been groomed for a couple of decades and he still stumbles and sounds like an idiot who can’t form an entire sentence that makes any sense without a teleprompter and someone else putting the words in his mouth.

    I give Sarah A+ for being genuine, standing up for what she believes, willingness to take on her own party before criticizing the other party, being willing to blow the whistle on corruption, down to earth qualities that resonates with the average American.  I believe she will grow over time and I’m going to give her a chance before I write her off. 

    Considering that Obama has been given every advantage and then some and he still gets caught in outright lies, gaffes and those moments when he goes off script, he falls on his face. 

    IMO, obama is the one who deserves being viewed under a microscope, not Sarah, because he’s the president and told us all these great and wonderful things he was going to do, which he hasn’t lived up to yet. 

    I’d vote for Sarah for president before I’d vote for Obama.  She’s human, he’s not.  She cares, he doesn’t, she’s willing to listen, all he does is talk.  She has room to grow, he thinks he’s the messiah.

    When you compare the two, you realize, he’s an illusion, Sarah is real. 

  • WestVirginia304

    Maybe THIS is why the DSCC lost MA.  With all the important issues to address THIS is what they sent out today.  Children, all of them.

    Dear ****,

    Tell us what Sarah Palin is saying. Use the new whiteboard. Be creative!

    . . .

    In honor of the tea party convention, we came up with a way for you to tell us what you think she’s saying. Just click on the link below, fill in the speech bubble, then submit it to us. We’ll post the best creations at dscc.org.

    Click here to fill in what Palin’s really saying.

    Be creative! Sarah Palin wants to be the voice of the tea party movement. Let’s help.
    -DSCC

    Paid for by the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, dscc.org,

  • Darwin

    While campaigning for election in 2006, Palin declared that she supported the 1998 Alaska constitutional amendment that proposed adding “…a marriage may exist only between one man and one woman” to the Alaskan Constitution.
    Palin opposed state covered health and retiree benefits to same-sex partners of state employees, but complied with an Alaska Supreme Court directive to do so.

  • AnnieCarmel

    Funny, Hillary was supposed to be so polarizing that she couldn’t get elected dog catcher.  Still, she won the primary without ANY help from the MSM.  She lost because of theft of malfeasance.  Hillary’s weakness for me is her working for the fraud and her inability to go against the Democrat party that treated her like less than dirt.  I can’t get around it and I won’t vote again for another Democrat who wants to carry out the agenda of the DNC.

    As for Sarah, she’s growing and will be ready in 2012.  She’s a smart woman who hasn’t had a chance to smooth out some of the edges but she will.  Her challenge is to stay true to herself as she hones her message and delivery.

  • Darwin

    Palin is opposed to efforts to decriminalize or legalize marijuana, which she says sends the wrong message to children. Palin has admitting to using marijuana, though at a time when doing so was legal under state law.

  • AC

    Cite please?

  • Darwin

    Palin said that closing the borders should be the first priority in dealing with illegal immigration. Palin stated that she supported a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants

  • Darwin

    In 2008 budget year, Palin sought $256 million in earmarks, and for the 2009 budget Palin gave a list of 31 proposed earmarks, totaling $197 million, to then Alaskan Senator Ted Stevens.

  • Darwin

    The point is to enlighten an otherwise simplified caricature of Sarah Palin. Will she change her mind about some of these ideas when there is pushback from the lobbyists? Probably. Will that change your perception of her? Probably. It will be interesting to watch when she runs.

  • stodghie

    those who don’t like sarah, never will. she can’t please them no matter what. neither can hillary. so i say forget the naysayers. let them wither on the vine sitting around their increasinly lonely coffee houses talking about the good ole days with obummer.

    now i know there are some on here who would never vote for barry and don’t like sarah due to different philosophies. think about this. we are saddled with obummer due to the fact that the idealogical right wing sat home on election day. i’ll never forgive them.

  • oowawa

    Yes HARP–at this point she needs an intermediate job to re-establish her bona fides because of the certainty that she will be crucified for being a “quitter” if she were to otherwise run for POTUS.  Sec. of Energy, Sec. of Interior, or Senator–all would do.  I wish her well! 

    I like her in a pink teacup, Pat!

  • WestVirginia304

    I think our resident bot needs to go play on the dscc kiddie drawing site I pointed out above.  Let’s remember not to feed it while it’s here.   It might get excited an pee on the toon.  BTW, Pat.  I like the toon.

  • dst

          Tried to watch Hardball and lasted about 3 minutes. Chris and his two buddy’s tearing Sarah apart because of 7 or 8 words on her palm and they see no difference between that and BO reading his entire speech on Pres-Tele.. But then why ask me, I got to see Avatar last night and all I have to say is Joe Biden you are finally correct, don’t waste your $’s! “the worst!

  • Sassy

    I like Sarah Palin! She is genuine and has heart.
    I’m glad she has a loving, nurturing family, and I wish her financial success.
    One on one with BO, she gets my vote.
    I have three choice candidates in mind for 2012, rated excellent, average, and acceptable. They are all male, and it is doubtful any of the three will run.

  • dst

        Tried to watch Hardball and lasted about 3 minutes. Chris and his two buddy’s tearing Sarah apart because of 7 or 8 words on her palm and they see no difference between that and BO reading his entire speech on Pres-Tele.. But then why ask me, I got to see Avatar last night and all I have to say is Joe Biden you are finally correct don’t waste your $’s! “the worst!

  • mountainaires

    I like her. I don’t think she should be President. She quit as Gov. of Alaska. We don’t need a quitter, and I don’t buy her bullshit excuse about quitting as Gov. I think she realized she could make a hell of a lot of money, and maybe even run for President if she had a national platform. So, she dumped her job as Gov. Now, when voters elect you to a position like that, they don’t do it to have you just up and decide one day that it’s too boring, or too hard, or too divisive, or whatever excuse you want to use. If you run, and you’re elected, you have a responsibility to SEE IT THROUGH. 

    So, I like her, she’s fine, I don’t agree with her positions on all issues, but I don’t want her as President. If she wants to be active in politics, as a voice for this or that issue, or to help candidates in different races, all well and good; maybe she can get her own TV show, fine.

    The Oval Office? I don’t think so. 

  • dst

        Tried to watch Hardball and lasted about 3 minutes. Chris and his two buddy’s tearing Sarah apart because of 7 or 8 words on her palm and they see no difference between that and BO reading his entire speech on Pres-Tele.. But then why ask me, I got to see Avatar last night and all I have to say is Joe Biden you are finally correct what a waste  “the worst”.

  • Tricia

    Who, Sassy?

  • Ladydawnelle

    forgiveness is devine (for ideologues of a certain belief) but rarely practiced

    I believe ONE person ONE vote and NO one can tell me how to waste it!  lol

  • Darwin

    Would you then disagree with the thread Mr. Johnson just posted?

  • Mandelay

    I think Sarah’s a fearless work in progress who can immediately bring attention to any idea.  Her use of Facebook is brilliant.  She’s not perfect but she is interesting, long after the big brains said she could be of interest.  The “rules” cannot contain her. And if they haven’t already done so, I wish Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton would find a secluded spot, safely away from all press, pundits, bloggers, etc. — and have that cup of coffee.  

  • socaldem

    I would most certainly vote for Sarah if she is running. I like her and she has more experience than the present occupant. What positions of hers do you oppose?

  • donjo

    I guess it all depends upon which candidate can best “front” for the multi-national corporations,  big banks, defense industries, wall street, and others who actually run this corporocracy. (Formerly a Republic)  Right now the Ozero is doing a good job of it and Sarah will have to convince the good ole boys school of corruption that she can do a better job for them than O.  She doesn’t have the background, knowledge, experience and fortitude to be president. She’s already shown she’s a quitter. Plus,  I cetainly don’t want her hand on the nuclear button. She is NOT ready and never will be to be president of this once great nation.  Glibness and false celebrity doesn’t make one an expert.  But nowadays, it doesn’t seem to matter.  By 2012 she will have amassed enough money to fulfill every greedy republicans wet dream and the only thing to satisfy her ego will be to elected the first female president.  God help us if she achieves that goal.

  • Yttik

    Something I find interesting, I don’t think we’re going to get a woman president based on experience and qualifications. The playing field is too uneven. Hillary Clinton visited 86 countries and was on a first name basis with many foreign leaders. In the court of public opinion, that translated to mean she “hosted tea parties in the white house.” Now Obama, he once attended grammer schol in a foreign country so they awarded him the Nobel Peace Prize. Women can’t compete against that kind of crap. They’re going to have to ride in kind of like Obama did, on a cult of personality.

  • FLDemFem

    Harp, I think the Dept. of the Interior would be a good place for her. As long as it is made clear she cannot hunt in the national parks, and no shooting anything from a helicopter.

  • FLDemFem

    Speakers do that all the time, although they usually use notecards, or a sheet of paper with their “bullet points” listed. That makes it easier to keep everything in the order you want it to be and not forget anything. I doubt Obama could give a decent speech with just bullet points. He seems to need that teleprompter, and the writers who feed it.

  • FLDemFem

    Obama took home $300 million in earmarks the first year he was in the Senate, including $1 million to the hospital that had just given his wife a huge raise, almost doubling her salary. Just sayin’.

  • don x

    I think she is more of a cheer leader for the party.  Pleasant, peppy, and sometimes witty.  Personally, I can’t see her as Prez.   If she would take a job such as one suggested above and stick with it and do well, she could be a contender.  She is a bit too far right for my taste.  And being a Republican freaks me out.  If she ran as an independent and found middle ground, she would be a more attractive candidate  I sense more fluff than depth, but that appeals to many.  Compared to Hillary she is a rank amateur.

  • Tricia

    Yttik–I think you nailed it–unfortunately.

  • Solara 9

    “Compared to Hillary she is a rank amateur.”
    100% for sure, Don X!!

  • Stan Davis

    I don’t quite believe what I’m reading here, coming largely from a group of Hillary Clinton fans.  After all, what many of us found attractive in Clinton was her experience and demonstrated competence over Barack Obama.

    My cup of tea?  More like a sip of rancid eggnog.

    On “Countdown” this evening, Howard Fineman told about a conservative friend of his, who said that when he watched Palin’s interview on Fox News this weekend, he felt he was losing IQ points just listening to her.  I think I understand the problem.

    I will never forgive John McCain for foisting Palin on the country.

    Stan Davis
    Lakewood, CO

  • bayareavoter

    I can’t believe how many comments you write, Mountainaires, that I could have written myself. You are exactly right. She is not presidential material.

    We have more than 250 million peeps in this country. Why can’t we find a real qualified leader?

  • FLDemFem

    We did. But she got skunked out of the nomination by the DNC. She had over 18 million votes and her opponent had 17 million, but he got the nod. We should not give up on getting her into the White House. After Obama’s term, the country is going to need Hillary Clinton, more than ever.

  • Mark

    I like Palin, she is respectable and does not put herself up on a pedestal like Obama.  She is a breath of fresh air compared to the elitist moron, Obama.  The more I think of Obama the more I like Palin as an alternative.

  • arabella trefoil

    Go, Sarah, go! I like her. She’s helping to keep the Revolution visible. The fact that trolls like Darwin are posting every five minutes tells me that Sarah is good for the “kick the bastards out” movement.

    We are in the midst of fomenting a rebellion. I will take help from whereever it is given. Who else is going to keep the spark alive right now.

    I’m not asking for perfection from Sarah Palin. I like her energy.

    Yeah, she’s my cup of tea.

    The fact that people want to tear her down shows me that she’s doing something right.

  • lorac

    I read an essay once which covered female politicians the world over.  The stats were so dismal – the vast majority had obtained their positions because their father or husband died or stepped down, and the female moved into their political job.  It has happened here, as well.  But look at Hillary – she had the male relative “in”, and even had the skills and qualifications and intelligence to do the job – and it wasn’t enough.  Maybe a woman can only step into a male relative’s political job if she is NOT scary smart….  But yeah, very depressing, such sexism keeping people from actually electing a female leader….

  • lorac

    You know, I just think that is cultural bias.  She just doesn’t present herself as a polished Harvard grad, and her speech and style are more down to earth.  It most certainly doesn’t mean she’s stupid.  She’s probably of average, maybe a little higher, intelligence.  Intelligence relates to the capacity to learn.  She’s been focused on a huge state of Alaska, a state which is removed from our mass of states.  She has time to learn more about the country as a whole.

    It’s three years until the election.  No one, including her, knows if she will run – and then, will it be for Pres?  Vice pres?  (many people run for pres hoping they may be selected for veep)  A cabinet post?  Maybe she’ll just keep doing what she’s doing.  The point is – who knows?  And yet, it’s like the world is falling down around us – OMG, we need to tear this woman down NOW.

    What’s the point, exactly, in spending so much time going over and over and over whether she will run and is she qualified?  I think the MSM should chill out.  Sit back and observe what’s in front of their faces, and stop wasting time talking about what may never come to pass.  In three years, if she decides to run, the world can have a conversation about whether she is now ready to be (whatever she may be running for).

    I think this is either a diversion from Obama’s problems, or the bots reliving their glory days of verbal violence against women, or a DNC genuinely concerned that Palin is going to cause some kind of trouble for them, even if she doesn’t run.  Maybe “D”, “all of the above”.

  • PortiaElizabeth

    Darwin — do you seriously think we don’t vet candidates here?
     Do you seriously think Obama got the same scrutiny Sarah Palin gets every day?
    Do you seriously think?

  • Stan Davis

    Well, lorac, it’s not cultural with me.  She’s the 2000s version of Dan Quayle.

    If it were cultural, or at least gender-specific, I wouldn’t be so impressed with Kathleen Sebelius and several female Senators and Congresswomen, not to mention the several female state legislators just in my county.  If it were beauty, I wouldn’t be so impressed with Janet Granholm.

    Stan

  • Anonymous

    Stan—You had me until “On Countdown this evening……”

  • Helen in Seattle

    I’m hoping for Clinton/Palin in 2012.  Hillary doesn’t owe the Dems anything, so why really unify the country.  I saw Palin interviewed by Maria Hinojosa on NOW well before mcCain selected her, and was very impressed with her as an executive.  I think she has to wash off the Republican campaign mantras she picked up and go back to her executive instincts.

    I don’t agree with her on many social issues, but I’d feel better about her and Hillary working them through than expecting the good old boys to deliver anything. I’m done with them and all the faux feminists I supported in the past.

  • Nobama

    Sarah rocks…..the libs are clueless

  • JRD

    One of Palin’s best friends is a lesbian who she played basketball with back in High School. That is a long time to be friends. Maybe you should get the facts before you repeat sheeple garbage. And if you knew anything else about her you would know that is NOT her only friend in the community.

  • Anonymous

    I think she’s as honest as a politician can be, but after watching the first part of her speech to the tea bag convention, she lost me, and it’s the kind of impression that she cannot undo.  I really liked her before and would have been willing to compromise on a few of my ideals to have a true honest president.  She has my respect and agree with a few of her positions, but she’s too far away from my ideals to ever vote for her.

  • Hillary or Bust

    I’ve given some thought to this scenario…what if Hillary runs in 2012 (because Obama decides not to run for re-election now that his ego is no longer being stroked by an adoring public), and Palin ends up being the Republican contender. Who would I vote for? Hillary? Or Palin?

    I have to honestly say I am not sure. Hillary is most certainly more intellectual and has more foreign policy experience. Palin does need to come up with more concrete solutions and bone up on some stuff to be taken more seriously. But…there’s something about Palin. She just has a quality that I think we need. It’s her faith in America, her optimism, and her sincerity.

    Hillary has none of that. Hillary is calculated, and smart, but she doesn’t have that true sincere drive to serve in the way Palin does.

    So I don’t know. Once in the voting booth, I just might choose Palin over Hillary. I can’t really say right now. But I’m about 50/50 on them.

  • Docelder

    Hillary is a poltician. Did she force a vote count? No, that would have been the right thing to do but would have come with political risk. Palin would step down as governor to end the silly lawsuits to the benefit of Alaska and to her own detriment. Hillary is a politician and Palin is an American patriot. You can’t even compare one to the other.

  • Docelder

    This is what I am saying above. You can’t even compare the two. If you want another cold and calculating “politician” we just as well keep the one we have. He is as cold and calculating as they come. But, if we really want an American real person. Then, so far it’s Palin. I don’t blame somebody for wanting one or the other, just be honest about it.

  • Reddraggon22

    I cannot believe what you just said — especially with that moniker of Hillary or Bust. No one has been a more dedicated public servant than Hillary Clinton. If you really knew her story, if she had ever developed a real narrative about herself, if the media had ever allowed her real story to be told — you would never make such a false claim. As SoS, she has traveled 200,000 miles in the hardest job in government while the fraud plays golf 30 times and has 171 parties. Her grasp of issues and their interdependencies is so far beyond anyone else, and her resilience, her optimism, her ability to move forward is unbelievable. Much as I dont like her working for the fraud, i sleep better at night because there is one adult in this administration. When the time is right, I hope she will resign. Sarah Palin and every other wannabe, both R and D, are like little ants around this one giant. 

  • clairtx

    Pat, I would rather have Sarah Palin than 100 Obamas.  She may have a lot to learn but if you admire her for accomplishing so much by the age of 40, give her a break and have a little faither in her ability and intelligence.  That speaks volumes more than Obama’s slick promises of pie in the sky. I see the media snickering about her crib notes in her palm, but none of them seem to see Obama staring at the teleprompters everywhere he goes.  If she were a man, I don’t think she would be getting this kind of scrutiny.  I am so sick of misogynistic people!  The Democrats are certainly giving her the road to the White House with all their spending money we don’t have.  Health care is gone and so will Obama.

  • clairtx

    Stan, the liberals have had their day. I know it’s only a year into the Obama administration, but the handwriting is already on the wall. The fact that you still watch ‘Countdown’ tells me you are a die-hard liberal, so nothing I say will change your mind.  I expect you not to like Palin, but the lady does have principles, which is something I can’t say about most Democrats after the last election.  They are selling this country to any foreign country who will loan us money, and apologizing for our country at an alarming rate.  Yes, I do believe we will be attacked on Obama’s watch.  Kruschev thought Kennedy was a weak President, so we had the missiles in Cuba.  So it will be with Obama, only the American people will pay dearly for his weakness.

  • clairtx

    AnnieCarmel, you and I are in the same boat. I can’t get around the way Hillary was treated either and will never forgive the Democratic Party for the way she was treated.
    It’s interesting to watch Palin and see where she is going.

  • Docelder

    Does anybody really think Dan Quayle was stupid? That was media propaganda. So he put an (e) on the end of potato. Doesn’t make him stupid. His job wasn’t talking about potatoes. But this is what we get from the media and from the people who listen to them. Half of America is so ignorant they take what Tina Fey said as being what Palin said just because the media played it over and over. That would be the half that put hope and change in office.

  • Stan Davis

    Hi, clairtx, good to “see” you.

    I think that Olbermann is over the top in most of his comments, especially his Special Comments.  I usually only watch the first half of the show for that reason and because it turns silly in the second half.  But I like some of his regular guests–David Wolffe, Howard Fineman, and so forth.  I think that Olbermann isn’t nearly as elegant as he thinks he is, and his convoluted syntax (just try to diagram some of his sentences) undermines his message.  He also speaks too fast for this Oklahoma-bred kid to listen closely.  (I have the same problem with Howard Dean and Jon Soltz).

    I also watch Ed Schultz, although I really don’t like him.  In addition an organization on whose board I used to sit brought him to Denver for an appearance, and my friend who squired him around said he was a real [fill in your favorite pejorative expletive].  But he and his guests are preferable (to me) over Bill Schneider and Candy Crowley.

    My favorite is “Hardball,” primarily just for its entertainment value.  The rest of the day I watch CNN.  I really like Rick Sanchez’s show and the morning lineup.

    I don’t watch Rachel Maddow at all.  By then, I’m watching basketball or baseball or the earlier programs I’ve recorded.

    Stan

  • Peggy Sue

    Pat, I have said this before [and been slammed for it]: I like Sarah Palin.  I like her family and her backstory.  I think she does a find job of whipping up enthusiasm for the Republican party. She has political savvy and knows how to play the public and the press to her advantage. 

    But I would no sooner vote for Sarah Palin for POTUS than I would vote for Barack Obama.  In fact, I see a great parallel between the two, namely the Cult of Personality. 

    We’re watching that sad scenario play out right now.  Disastrous!  

  • Glennmcgahee

    In true bi-partisan fashion, Palin would be a good Vice President to Madame President Clinton. Hillary can teach her everything she needs to learn and sway her views more to my liking. She certainly can do anything Joe ‘Credit Card’ Biden can do.

  • kgirl1028

    Believe it or not, despite my issues with Michelle Obama, if she proved her self as a Senator or Congress woman I would vote for her. Note I had issues with Hillary as well but i knew she could do the job. I find Mrs O to be plenty more capable than her husband with a far more impressive resume. 

  • kgirl1028

    Come on let’s be honest, Michelle Obama would have spankd Nancy and Harry’s behind with that jacked up stimulous bill. ANd sent them both back to their perspective houses of congress to do it right.  Those fools wanted Obama for a reason, they knew they could snow him.

  • kenoshamarge

    I agree with you 100% oowawa. She needs to take a job and finish it to get the “quit” out of a lot of people’s mouths. I understand why she thinks she needed to do it. I just don’t happen to agree.

    I still like her though. A lot. I think she’s “real”. How long that will last with advisors and handlers is hard to tell.

  • Sassy

    Tricia,
    I have mentioned my choices before.
    General David Petraeus is my favorite, and incidentally was mentioned by Krauthammer a couple of weeks ago.
    Second would be Bill Gates, who’s philanthropy domestically and abroad would have increased his world views.
    Third would be General Wesley Clark, a man from humble beginnings who used his high intellect to excel.

  • Anonymous

    yttik,

    I disagree.  If women would stop allowing themselves to be manipulated into believing that women should be held to a higher standard than the men and start uniting behind women candidates who more than equal or exceed their male counterparts in qualifications and experience, that’s when we’ll see a woman president.

    I’ve never seen a woman cult of personality, because of the double standard imposed upon them that just would not allow such frivolity and lack of substance to go unnoticed.

    Everyone turned a blind eye (except for those of us who supported Hillary and Palin) to obama’s total lack of experience, substance and record.  No woman would ever be allowed to get away with that.

    The only way women will achieve parity with men in power is to support each other the same way men support other men.

  • Anonymous

    Part I

    Her speech made absolutely no sense. It was painful listening to it and I myself felt I was losing brain cells listening to it.
     
    Easy to be a critic, but we have no way of judging Palin because she tells us absolutely nothing about what she wants to do? We have zero in terms of what her policy ideas are? She just throws around the tired far right-wing clichés. Her speech was just her attack key-note speech lite. A lot of hot air, but not much substance.
     
    Here speech was also full of straight-out lies and was devoid of accurate facts.
     
    I will give you a few misleading statements she made just on national security in her speech.
     
    1) she claimed Abdulmutallab ”lawyered up and invoked our U.S. constitutional right to remain silent”
     
    wrong: he did not remain silent; in fact he provide a lot of intelligence after being mirandized. Sarah has no idea what went on. She is not in the loop.
     
    2) She claimed that Abdulmutallab was not interrogated about training and future plots.There are questions that we would have liked answered before he lawyered up, like where exactly were you trained and by whom. You are bragging about all these other terrorists just like you, who are they? When and where will they try to strike next?
     
    The reality is that interrogators reportedly sought and received information from Abdulmutallab. Appearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee on January 20, FBI Director Robert Mueller testified that interrogators interviewed Abdulmutallab “to gain intelligence, intelligence about whether there’s another bomb, whether other coconspirators, where’d he get the bomb”

  • Anonymous

    Part II

    3) She claimed that Obama adminstration uses “words like overseas  contingency operation instead of the word war”. The reality is Obama repeatedly uses the word “war”. He used it at least 7 times in his Jan.27th speech.
     
    4) She said “our president spent a year reaching out to hostile regimes, writing personal letters  to dangerous dictators”. Both Bush and Clinton also wrote personal appeals to the North Korean leader.
     
    She also said during the speech: “Today, in the words of Congressman Paul Ryan, the $700 billion TARP has morphed into “crony capitalism at its worst,” and it’s becoming a slush fund for the Treasury Department favorite big players, just as we had been warned about.”
     
    That is the normal Palin hypocrisy that we have come to expect. She supported the TARP when she was running for VP and did not warn anyone about anything, just like she supported cap n trade when she was running, but now does a complete 180 degrees. Palin the opportunist, who stands for nothing.
     
    She said this about the bail-outs in her Katie Couric interview:
     
    “But ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health care reform that is needed to help shore up the economy– Helping the — Oh, it’s got to be about job creation too. Shoring up our economy and putting it back on the right track. So health care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions and tax relief for Americas. ”
     
    Palin is a retard. She is just the current Republican candidate that FOX is promoting.

  • jangles

    I think I would vote for almost anybody but O.  If the Repubs put up a real dick head, like Tancredo, I would just stay home.

  • Observant

    Hate to say it but Sarah is my cup of tea! She is real. She refuses to play by the rules she does things her way!! I RESPECT that!

    I like her. No matter how hard everyone tries to keep her down, she keeps getting back up, keep on fighting and keeps getting stronger and better! GO SARAH!! Keep on doing what you are doing while the haters keep hating!!

  • Yttik

    Sarah is definitely my cup of tea. Whether she runs or not what “Palin Power” symbolizes in this country is exactly what we need.

    That’s a cute cartoon! It reminds me of the teacup rides at Disneyland which is probabably appropriate since politics really has started to resemble a circus.

  • kenoshamarge

    I cannot picture the mainstream media helping Sarah Palin when they have, mostly, done everything possible to show her as stupid.

  • Puma Left-over

    I have the facts – and until they are out there compagianing for gays to have equal rights and not “tolorate” then I will have more faith to vote for their agenda.  According to Palin, her best gay friend, will not or will never by the Federal Government (under Palin as POTUS) will never have the same rights unless all 50 states provide them the rights – you better get the facts !

  • EllenD

    Craig is pointing out that she understands the difference between a personal view and upholding the law. As Catholics are the majority on the Supreme Court and may become the majority in our country, it is important to make sure our governance is non-sectarian and not based on anyone’s personal opinion.

  • Hillary or Bust

    I agree…I don’t fully blame Michelle for having a dope for a husband. Otherwise, I’d have to hate on myself for all the stupid choices I’ve made in the name of love.

  • Pat Racimora

    Sassy–Ah, I like #3 best!  Now THERE is an intellectualy heavyweight and a great and proven leader.  General P I know less about but have been impressed with what I do know.  Don’t know enough about the politics of Gates, but you have certainly picked three amazing men!  Would you add Michale Bloomberg to that list as #4?

  • Pat Racimora

    SO TRUE, Reddraggon22–When Hillary started to climb in in the polls during the primaries I decided to do some serious reading (as a “resume Democrat”).  I was stunned by how uninformed I had been about her.  What an amazing woman, starting with her teenage years.  She has always cared about others–it has always been her passion.  I took leave from my job for 6 months just to campaign for her.  I never thought anyone would move me enough to do something like that.

  • TeakWoodKite

    No. Palin is not my cup of tea.
     That said, I respect her as a person who did govern a state, went after pols in her own party.

  • Me

    Yes, Sally, I agree with you, but as for Sarah, I like her and much prefer her to Hillary, who’s too much of a Progressive.

  • Peggy Sue

    Stan, I watched the Wallace interview, too.  Though I wouldn’t be as cruel as Fineman, I know exactly what he’s talking about. This was “friendly territory” for Sarah Palin and she said exactly what she’s been saying all along in constant cliche-ridden language.  I found her comments about the 2012 election and Obama possibly gaining votes by playing the war card, war with Iran, to prove he’s serious about national security, absolutely ridiculous and reckless.

    I am not and have never been an Obama supporter.  As far as I’m concerned, Hillary Clinton was and is the gold standard for male or female POTUS candidates.

    Sarah Palin doesn’t come close.

  • Sally

    I totally agree. Sarah is a refreshing voice. But I still care much more about what Iran will do to us on Feb 11. Not a single news source is mentioning it!

  • Timepassages
  • Docelder

    We don’t have much in the way of news anymore in this country. It’s all mostly propaganda now. Before I just had the cable turned off, I was watching BBC World pretty much exclusively. I really don’t miss it at all. The best part is, I almost never see Obama’s speeches anymore and the off air digital TV doesn’t blast you with the commercials sound levels like the cable did. Anything I really need to know, can be found on Drudge or places like here. You could watch most of the 24 hour cable news all day and never see any real news stories. If Obama ever gets Internet censorship, I am getting a shortwave radio. There is always a way.

  • lnab

    very scary to see so many people saying they are willing to vote for this clearly inexperienced and clueless woman…

    guess it’s going to be the far right’s turn to mirror the far left in 2008…  only this time it will be from the frying pan into the fire

  • J.J. (The PUMA)

    I reserve my viewership of Olbermann to days that are really, really bad for Obama…….like every election day. 

  • lauraks

    inexperienced and clueless- why is that now suddenly a problem?  Women are just so much scarier than men when  in power! Please.

  • Linda Mac

    The only thing that makes her viable as any sort of candidate is the current POTUS.  I am a person who cuts people who are beautiful a lot of slack because I think others tend to want you to be an airhead if you are also eye-candy.  Unfortunately, I think that palin was in way over her head when McCain chose her as his running mate.  Now i believe it has gone to her head but she works for me as the 2012 POTUS candidate.  that may be the only way that anybody else can win. 

  • Mitch Dworkin

    Sarah Palin is a very dangerous ideologue in my opinion.  Her tea party speech was an attempt to try and sugar coat and sell Rush Limbaugh’s extreme ideology as being a “common sense” mainstream message:
      
    http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/18356 

    Palin tried to sugar coat and sell Limbaugh’s ideology in her tea party speech! 

    Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on February 10, 2010 – 7:55am. 

    Sarah Palin is a product of Rush Limbaugh which Limbaugh openly admits to and is proud of: 

    http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/18192

    Sarah Palin, Part 1: Palin is a mindless and traveling stooge for Rush Limbaugh!

    Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on December 8, 2009 – 3:01pm.

    To prove my point that Sarah Palin is a stooge for Rush Limbaugh, I would ask anybody to name just one issue, no matter how small that it may be, where Palin disagrees with Limbaugh (and a lot of issues came up in her interviews and in her speeches).  No two seriously thinking people that I am aware of will completely agree on each and every single issue no matter how small that it may be.  I have never seen that happen in my life.

    I put several links in the two posts above where Sarah Palin was interviewed by Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and by other talk radio show hosts along with her tea party speech where anyone can try and find just one issue that Palin and Limbaugh do not agree on.

    Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin both help each other.  Without Limbaugh promoting Palin to his audience of many millions of activists, Palin would probably have just been another failed VP candidate.  With Limbaugh promoting Palin, she is selling a lot of books, she is making a lot of money, and has a lot of power in Limbaugh’s wing of the Republican Party.

    However as powerful as Rush Limbaugh is, he still cannot travel around from state to state and from campaign to campaign, endorse the local candidates who he likes, and do a lot of high dollar fundraisers for local candidates.  This is the main role that Palin is doing for Limbaugh now.  Palin does the traveling helping the candidates who share her extreme ideology and Limbaugh continually gives Palin his stamp of approval on his radio program.  It is a win/win situation for both Limbaugh and Palin.

    Mitch Dworkin
    Dallas, Texas
    http://mitchdworkin.com/
    Objective Political Research & Analysis

  • Peggy Sue

    Mitch, I don’t know whether Palin is Limbaugh’s stooge [it's an interesting theory] but I listened to Palin’s Wallace interview and her skating on the “retard” remark was utterly amazing.  When Rahm Emmanuel made a crass comment it was dispicable.  When Limbaugh aired his boorish comments it was merely satire.

    Hypocritical much?

    My take was there is no way Palin would take on Limbaugh; he has too much power on the air.  But Emmanuel?  He’s easy to dislike and take potshots at.  The disconnect was stunning, and yet her supporters continue to make excuses. 

    Takes me right back to 2008.  The Cult of Personality is still strong in the water. It’s a choose your poison moment.  But the effects are and will be the same.

    As for the line “Common Sense Solutions?”  It’s just a turn on “Yes, we can!”  Both mean zip. 

  • zaine_ridling

    She’s had 18 months to define herself as a serious person and she hasn’t. I was semi-impressed when she first hit the scene, but it’s been a slow decline ever since. Just another opportunist like Gingrinch, Hannity, Huckabee, and that whole industry of TV-lauts.

  • donjo

    To think that this person is even being talked about as a presidential candidate says loads about our country.  All negative.

  • Docelder

    She needs at least one more book. Then she will be ready.

  • carlton edwards

    Fluff and puff.  That’s Sarah!

  • Mitch Dworkin

    Here are two things about Sarah Palin that I was surprised to find out:

    1) Sarah Palin reaches more people with a Facebook message (over 1.3 million) than Keith Olbermann reaches during his 8:00 PM Countdown show on MSNBC (roughly 1 million).  In addition to that, Palin also reaches about 3 times more people with a Facebook message than Ed Schultz does on his 6:00 PM MSNBC show:

    http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/17825#comment-355358

    Palin has more followers on Facebook than Olbermann has on MSNBC

    Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on February 8, 2010 – 4:05am.

    2) While many Republicans fear Sarah Palin right now and are “scared as heck of her,” Palin really and truly fears upsetting Rush Limbaugh just like how most elected Republicans do.  Palin’s spokeswoman Meg Stapleton actually called Limbaugh “sort of in a panic” and talked with his chief of staff trying to convince him that Palin was not criticizing Limbaugh which a Politico artcle seemed to imply:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35311509/ns/msnbc_tv-countdown_with_keith_olbermann/

    ‘Countdown with Keith Olbermann’ for Monday, February 8, 2010
    Read the transcript to the Monday show

    Guests: Ezra Klein, Chris Hayes, Harry Shearer.

    HOWARD FINEMAN, MSNBC POLITICAL ANALYST: “And talking to Republican strategists around town, they‘re of two minds. They know that a lot of people that she represents are necessary to the Republican future, but they‘re scared as heck of her (Palin), except they don‘t well, most of them don‘t want to say it publicly…”

    http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/18192#comment-355359

    Even Sarah Palin feared possibly upsetting Rush Limbaugh…

    Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on February 8, 2010 – 5:15am.   

    http://www.dccc.org/content/sorry

    I’m Sorry, Rush

    “Republicans who’ve dared to criticize Rush only to beg for his forgiveness…”

    Democrats and those in the media who make fun of Sarah Palin and who do not take her seriously are doing so at their own peril!

  • Mitch Dworkin

    I am not surprised about the hypocrisy because Sarah Palin really and truly fears Rush Limbaugh just like how most elected Republican do.  Palin’s spokeswoman Meg Stapleton actually called Limbaugh “sort of in a panic” and talked with his chief of staff trying to convince him that Palin was not criticizing Limbaugh which a Politico artcle seemed to imply:

    http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/18192#comment-355359  
     
    Even Sarah Palin feared possibly upsetting Rush Limbaugh…  
     
    Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on February 8, 2010 – 5:15am.     
     
    http://www.dccc.org/content/sorry  
     
    I’m Sorry, Rush  
     
    “Republicans who’ve dared to criticize Rush only to beg for his forgiveness…”

    While Palin is a very powerful person with the tea party activists, she knows that Rush Limbaugh is still her boss!

  • Mitch Dworkin

    Here are two things about Sarah Palin that I was surprised to find out:  
     
    1) Sarah Palin reaches more people with a Facebook message (over 1.3 million) than Keith Olbermann reaches during his 8:00 PM Countdown show on MSNBC (roughly 1 million).  In addition to that, Palin also reaches about 3 times more people with a Facebook message than Ed Schultz does on his 6:00 PM MSNBC show:  
     
    http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/17825#comment-355358  
     
    Palin has more followers on Facebook than Olbermann has on MSNBC  
     
    Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on February 8, 2010 – 4:05am.  
     
    2) While many Republicans fear Sarah Palin right now and are “scared as heck of her,” Palin really and truly fears upsetting Rush Limbaugh just like how most elected Republicans do.  Palin’s spokeswoman Meg Stapleton actually called Limbaugh “sort of in a panic” and talked with his chief of staff trying to convince him that Palin was not criticizing Limbaugh which a Politico artcle seemed to imply:
     
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35311509/ns/msnbc_tv-countdown_with_keith_olbermann/  
    ‘Countdown with Keith Olbermann’ for Monday, February 8, 2010  
    Read the transcript to the Monday show  
     
    Guests: Ezra Klein, Chris Hayes, Harry Shearer.  
     
    HOWARD FINEMAN, MSNBC POLITICAL ANALYST: “And talking to Republican strategists around town, they‘re of two minds. They know that a lot of people that she represents are necessary to the Republican future, but they‘re scared as heck of her (Palin), except they don‘t well, most of them don‘t want to say it publicly…”  
     
    http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/18192#comment-355359  
     
    Even Sarah Palin feared possibly upsetting Rush Limbaugh…  
     
    Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on February 8, 2010 – 5:15am.     
     
    http://www.dccc.org/content/sorry  
     
    I’m Sorry, Rush  
     
    “Republicans who’ve dared to criticize Rush only to beg for his forgiveness…”  
     
    Democrats and those in the media who make fun of Sarah Palin and who do not take her seriously are doing so at their own peril!

    Mitch Dworkin  
    Dallas, Texas  
    http://mitchdworkin.com/  
    Objective Political Research & Analysis

  • Mitch Dworkin

    Here are two things about Sarah Palin that I was surprised to find out:  
     
    1) Sarah Palin reaches more people with a Facebook message (over 1.3 million) than Keith Olbermann reaches during his 8:00 PM Countdown show on MSNBC (roughly 1 million).  In addition to that, Palin also reaches about 3 times more people with a Facebook message than Ed Schultz does on his 6:00 PM MSNBC show:  
     
    http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/17825#comment-355358  
     
    Palin has more followers on Facebook than Olbermann has on MSNBC  
     
    Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on February 8, 2010 – 4:05am.  
     
    2) While many Republicans fear Sarah Palin right now and are “scared as heck of her,” Palin really and truly fears upsetting Rush Limbaugh just like how most elected Republicans do.  Palin’s spokeswoman Meg Stapleton actually called Limbaugh “sort of in a panic” and talked with his chief of staff trying to convince him that Palin was not criticizing Limbaugh which a Politico artcle seemed to imply:
     
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35311509/ns/msnbc_tv-countdown_with_keith_olbermann/
      
    ‘Countdown with Keith Olbermann’ for Monday, February 8, 2010  
    Read the transcript to the Monday show  
     
    Guests: Ezra Klein, Chris Hayes, Harry Shearer.  
     
    HOWARD FINEMAN, MSNBC POLITICAL ANALYST: “And talking to Republican strategists around town, they‘re of two minds. They know that a lot of people that she represents are necessary to the Republican future, but they‘re scared as heck of her (Palin), except they don‘t well, most of them don‘t want to say it publicly…”  
     
    http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/18192#comment-355359  
     
    Even Sarah Palin feared possibly upsetting Rush Limbaugh…  
     
    Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on February 8, 2010 – 5:15am.     
     
    http://www.dccc.org/content/sorry  
     
    I’m Sorry, Rush  
     
    “Republicans who’ve dared to criticize Rush only to beg for his forgiveness…”  
     
    Democrats and those in the media who make fun of Sarah Palin and who do not take her seriously are doing so at their own peril!

    Mitch Dworkin  
    Dallas, Texas  
    http://mitchdworkin.com/  
    Objective Political Research & Analysis

  • oowawa

    Well, there really is no basis for Sara fearing Rush Limbaugh, because Thee One will finish him off for good in the Great Battle of Obamageddon:

  • Peggy Sue

    I not only liked that comment, oowawa.  But you made me laugh, again.  Where do you find these graphics?? 

    Perfect!

  • oowawa

    Well, Peggy Sue, I hate to divulge my source cuz I plan on returning to this gold mine for more treasures in the future, but the painter’s name is Dan Lacey.

  • Peggy Sue

    Mitch said:

    “Democrats and those in the media who make fun of Sarah Palin and who do not take her seriously are doing so at their own peril!”

    That I absolutely agree with.  It drives me nuts that they [Dems and the media] seem so reluctant to press Palin on her nonsensical comments, rather than all these mean-spirited, frat-boy attacks. Even the likes of Andrea Mitchell joined in on the name calling, the Palm-Writing Gate nonsense. 

    Why they persist on doing so is beyond me because it only increases Palin’s popularity and enlarges her image as the Republican Joan of Arc.

    Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.  Ouch!  The New Dems are using old standbys–demeaning, ridiculing and supposedly withering the opposition.

    It’s not working. You would think they would try something else. 

    That bubble they’re all living in must be made of sound proof materials. Or the arrogance is so very great they can’t imagine being wrong. Or they have some secret ninja move in the background that I’m not aware of.

    The whole thing is disturbing and distasteful to watch and listen to!

  • Binky

    Clinton/Palin will never happen because their philosophies are too far apart.  Clinton showed us this past year that she backed Obama’s agenda, such as supporting the radical leader who was legally kicked out of the Honduras.  I won’t be able to vote for her again.  The liberals and MSM will fight Palin running for President (and some Republicans).  If she’s to participate in government, I’d like to see her take some baby steps, such as Senator or a Cabinet Member.

  • Mitch Dworkin

    Palin has as about much in common with Hillary that Clarence Thomas has in common with Al Sharpton.  Outside of both of them being African-Americans, I cannot think of anything else that they have in common.  Outside of both Hillary and Palin being women, I cannot think of one thing that they have in common as far as their core beliefs are concerned!

  • Kathleen Wynne

    zaine,

    and obama has defined himself?  I still don’t know what he stands for but I don’t see the media and the pundits attacking his every thought, word and dead, like Sarah, and he’s the president!

    Cognitive dissonance amongst his supporter and the press, are the only reason obama has not been impeached.  Even Krugman, one of his greatest supporters, is now saying ‘we are doomed’, and yet, Sarah Palin is viewed as a problem for our country.

    Krugman’s right – we are doomed.

  • Helen in Seattle

    I liked the speech.  Critics who wanted details are asking for a State of the Union address.  She can give the details later.  She was a competent executive in Alaska, and will learn what she needs to in time.  In any case, she will have advisors much as Hillary will, and the evidence from alaska is that she governed from the middle.

    Of course she and Hillary are far apart on many issues, but they are both intelligent women and would work out the differences. Both are devoted to this country but coming from different perspectives.  Sarah will get up to speed as fast as she needs to and I think would be a loyal VP to Hillary.  She has repeatedly said she is not thrilled with the Republican Party, but it is closer to her than the Dems. The woman is open to moderate and yes, common sense governance.

    If it’s Hillary vs. Palin, I would go with Hillary.  Experience, knows where the bodies are buried, the faux feminists have revealed themselves as superficial thinkers, and long time male colleagues abandoned her for the good-looking guy. She’s in the clear.  And for that reason they aren’t through destroying her.

  • Mitch Dworkin

    Hi Stan:

    I completely agree with your comment “I will never forgive John McCain for foisting Palin on the country.”  I have thought the same thing for a very long time and I would compare McCain to Ralph Nader and Bill Buckner.

    Despite everything else that he previously did, Ralph Nader will mainly go down in history as being the spoiler who elected Bush which hurt the country and the world very badly for 8 long years.

    Retired Baseball player Bill Buckner, who was an overall above average baseball player, is mainly remembered in history as costing the Boston Red Sox the 1986 World Series for his error of letting a routine ground ball go through his legs which cost the Red Sox game 6 where they would have won the series by winning that game.  The Red Sox went on to lose game 7 so fair or unfair, Bill Buckner is only remembered in history for that one incident despite what he did in baseball over his entire career.  I lived in RI in 1986 and I am a Red Sox fan.  I saw that game and I could not believe that the Rex Sox came so close to winning and lost because of that one error.  Most people who live in New England and who saw that game will agree with me!     

    The exact same concept is true with John McCain in my opinion.  Sarah Palin right now is helping Republican candidates all over the country (only those who are ideologues in the same mold of Jim DeMint and Michele Bachmann) to win their primary races and many of them will probably go on to win in November.  Palin’s endorsement of Gov. Rick Perry in Texas where I live is the main reason why he is beating Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison in the Republican primary for Governor.  Kay is a candidate who even Chris Matthews endorsed because he hates Perry so much!

    The damage that Palin has already done by firing up the tea party kooks who helped to obstruct health care and her helping Republican ideologues to win their primary races in my opinion is already bad enough for McCain to mainly go down in history as being the person who irresponsibly unleashed Palin on the country despite his entire military and Senate career! 

    I get sick thinking about how much damage that she may also cause after 2010 or if she could even become President in 2012 basically on a default basis if she happens to win the GOP nomination and if Obama is about as unpopular in 2012 as Bush was in 2008.  If that ever happens, then the next sound that you will probably hear on 1/20/13 (the next Inauguration Day) after the 21 gun salute will be our bombs falling on Iran, North Korea, and on any other countries who Palin does not like (or the Republican candidate who Palin helped to win does not like)!

    If McCain had any guts and a conscience, then he would swallow his pride and admit that he made a terrible mistake by putting Palin on his ticket and denounce her just like how many of his campaign staff have done so far.  But winning a primary and re-election to the Senate in Arizona is more important to McCain and he knows that he will lose his primary race if he says anything bad about Palin.  I hope that McCain goes down in history as badly as Bush and Cheney will for his irresponsibly putting Palin on his ticket which is what unleashed her on the country!

    Mitch

  • Mitch Dworkin

    Here is an excellent Morning Joe Video where Joe Scarborough told it just the way it is about how the media sold Obama the way you sell diet coke, a bag of potato chips, and more.  Joe Scarborough in my opinion very clearly beat Donny Deutsch in this debate.  Deutsch would not answer Scarborough’s question if Obama was qualified to be President and Deutsch kept on trying to shift the dialogue to Palin in an obvious effort to try and avoid talking about Obama.  Scarborough agreed that he did not think Palin would be elected President and that he would not vote for her.

    When Joe Scarborough said “Barack Obama was sold as a rock star for a year and a half with cool looking posters and it was style before anybody knew if there was any substance there,” Donny Deutsch did not try to deny that, he referred to Scott Brown, and then he said “that’s the way people get elected, obviously you can assign whatever values you want to them” which I thought was a very ridiculous comment from Deutsch!  

    Joe Scarborough in my opinion made Donny Deutsch look like a Kool-Aid drinking idiot who would not answer his questions (while Scarborough answered Deutsch’s points about Palin) in this Morning Joe video on February 12 starting at about 2 minutes and 30 seconds into it:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/vp/35365080#35365080  (06:12)

    <img src=”http://msnbcmedia3.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Video/__NEW/n_mj_palin_100212.thumb-m.jpg” border=”0″/>
    Deutsch: Palin a ‘media rock star’
    Feb. 12: While debating the former GOP VP candidate’s electability, the Morning Joe gang examines the mutual dependence between Sarah Palin and the press.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/vp/35365080#35365080  (06:12)

    Joe Scarborough in my opinion exposed the complete truth about the media selling Obama in a very blunt manner and he taught the rest of the media a very important lesson about the error of their ways in this video which I hope that they listen to and learn something from.  Way to go Joe!

    Mitch Dworkin
    Dallas, Texas
    http://mitchdworkin.com/

  • Mitch Dworkin

    Here is an excellent Morning Joe Video where Joe Scarborough told it just the way it is about how the media sold Obama the way you sell diet coke, a bag of potato chips, and more.  Joe Scarborough in my opinion very clearly beat Donny Deutsch in this debate.  Deutsch would not answer Scarborough’s question if Obama was qualified to be President and Deutsch kept on trying to shift the dialogue to Palin in an obvious effort to try and avoid talking about Obama.  Scarborough agreed that he did not think Palin would be elected President and that he would not vote for her.

    When Joe Scarborough said “Barack Obama was sold as a rock star for a year and a half with cool looking posters and it was style before anybody knew if there was any substance there,” Donny Deutsch did not try to deny that, he referred to Scott Brown, and then he said “that’s the way people get elected, obviously you can assign whatever values you want to them” which I thought was a very ridiculous comment from Deutsch!  

    Joe Scarborough in my opinion made Donny Deutsch look like a Kool-Aid drinking idiot who would not answer his questions (while Scarborough answered Deutsch’s points about Palin) in this Morning Joe video on February 12 starting at about 2 minutes and 30 seconds into it:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/vp/35365080#35365080  (06:12)

    <img src=”http://msnbcmedia3.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Video/__NEW/n_mj_palin_100212.thumb-m.jpg” border=”0″/>
    Deutsch: Palin a ‘media rock star’
    Feb. 12: While debating the former GOP VP candidate’s electability, the Morning Joe gang examines the mutual dependence between Sarah Palin and the press.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/vp/35365080#35365080  (06:12)

    Joe Scarborough in my opinion exposed the complete truth about the media selling Obama in a very blunt manner and he taught the rest of the media a very important lesson about the error of their ways in this video which I hope that they listen to and learn something from.  Way to go Joe!

    Mitch Dworkin
    Dallas, Texas
    http://mitchdworkin.com/

  • Mitch Dworkin

    Here is an excellent Morning Joe Video where Joe Scarborough told it just the way it is about how the media sold Obama the way you sell diet coke, a bag of potato chips, and more.  Joe Scarborough in my opinion very clearly beat Donny Deutsch in this debate.  Deutsch would not answer Scarborough’s question if Obama was qualified to be President and Deutsch kept on trying to shift the dialogue to Palin in an obvious effort to try and avoid talking about Obama.  Scarborough agreed that he did not think Palin would be elected President and that he would not vote for her.

    When Joe Scarborough said “Barack Obama was sold as a rock star for a year and a half with cool looking posters and it was style before anybody knew if there was any substance there,” Donny Deutsch did not try to deny that, he referred to Scott Brown, and then he said “that’s the way people get elected, obviously you can assign whatever values you want to them” which I thought was a very ridiculous comment from Deutsch!  

    Joe Scarborough in my opinion made Donny Deutsch look like a Kool-Aid drinking idiot who would not answer his questions (while Scarborough answered Deutsch’s points about Palin) in this Morning Joe video on February 12 starting at about 2 minutes and 30 seconds into it:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/vp/35365080#35365080  (06:12)

    Deutsch: Palin a ‘media rock star’
    Feb. 12: While debating the former GOP VP candidate’s electability, the Morning Joe gang examines the mutual dependence between Sarah Palin and the press.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/vp/35365080#35365080  (06:12)

    Joe Scarborough in my opinion exposed the complete truth about the media selling Obama in a very blunt manner and he taught the rest of the media a very important lesson about the error of their ways in this video which I hope that they listen to and learn something from.  Way to go Joe!

    Mitch Dworkin
    Dallas, Texas
    http://mitchdworkin.com/
    Objective Political Research & Analysis

  • wodiej

    if the liberals hate her so much, she must be AWESOME.  Love her…

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