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For Barack Obama: Eight Questions [Update]

By Matthew J. Weaver | The Problem With Obama

340x.jpgWhile most folks accept that Obama was born in the U.S. of an American mother, it is increasingly suggestive that he may have shared Kenyan citizenship from his father, then when his mother remarried, was adopted and became an Indonesian citizen. In the latter, a school record clearly lists his citizenship as Indonesian. This would seem consistent with his adoption and the family move to Indonesia.

Obama has not addressed this. His offered birth certificate is being questioned by a number of folks who claim it is a forgery. It is suggested that his original birth certificate was sealed and replaced by a new one upon his adoption and move to Indonesia. It is suggested that in addition to his new name, Barry Soetoro, his adopted father and his mother changed his citizenship to Indonesia. Surely there will be records of this somewhere but I’ve yet to see anything beyond the notes about the sealed original birth certificate, the new one, a copy allegedly issued in 2007, an original that Obama wrote he held, and comments about the adoption in 1965 or 1966. I have not seen anything definitive on any of this to show it is anything more than speculation.

A photograph of an Indonesian school record, taken in January 2007 purportedly shows Obama as Barry Soetoro, religion as Islam, and citizenship as Indonesian. I have personally emailed AP and the current host of this image (Daylife) seeking confirmation that this image is legit. I’ve even called the latter but it does not appear that anyone answers the phones and voicemail messages have so far not been returned. I’m very suspicious of this document, even though it shows that it’s been posted for 18 months, it’s discovery now and content is very timely and explosive. Consider too that Daylife management include previous members of Edwards and Kerry’s campaigns, plus the DNC. This document could be a fake to stir up and embarrass those opposing Obama. I have received confirmation from Matthew Lutts at AP at 3:44 p.m. ET that “Yes, the image is legit.”

There are numerous sites now linking to and discussing this document. An early source is so-called TexasDarlin in his/her blog of the same name. [SusanUnPC's Note: It was not the intention of Larry Johnson or me in any way to criticize TexasDarlin's dogged, extensive work on these issues. We know her, and have spoken to her on the telephone. Since I haven't been able to reach Matthew after posting this, I am including this note, and trust he does not object. I find his story to be very worthwhile. He sent it to us late last night, when Larry and I were both exhausted and had too many other matters we were dealing with. We apologize to TexasDarlin for any offense, but we also respect Matthew's considerable research abilities and his superlative writing skills.] As they are anonymous, I distrust what they write. As of this afternoon, though, they do link to an AP article by Nedra Pickler via The Washington Post regarding the school record. The focus there was disputing the labeled religion but not the citizenship. Religion was and for some is still the hot-button issue. The question of citizenship is far more important and has constitutional and electability implications that make this worthy of revisiting.

Two other sites offer more cautious review of the school record and its implications:

  • Change & Experience. Which is also, like TexasDarlin, anonymous, but offers more careful and even balanced discussion of the school record.
  • Andy Martin, author of “Obama: The Man Behind the Mask”, offers a cautious analysis of the document and its implications.

This does put the legitimacy of Obama’s candidacy and eligibility to be president in question. I think Obama needs to provide unequivocal answers to a number of questions:

  1. Are you now a U.S. citizen?
  2. Have you ever held as a youth or adult, citizenship in another country?
  3. Did you ever possess or travel using, at least in part, the passport of another country? (E.g., while in Indonesia, visiting Pakistan, Kenya)
  4. Did you renounce any foreign citizenship, and when, and do you now hold solely U.S. citizenship today?
  5. Can you confirm or deny your name change as a youth from Barack Hussein Obama II to Barry Soetoro when you were adopted by your step-father?
  6. Did you legally reclaim your birth name? When and how?
  7. Why did you not list your adopted name Barry Soetoro on any forms associated with your legal profession or others that ask for any other names you have ever used? Have you now or will you update these records?
  8. And by the way, did you register with the U.S. Selective Service when you turned 18?

I am sure these questions can be better worded, especially to extract clear yes/no answers, and I am also sure that there are other pertinent questions that might be asked at the same time. I do think that now, or later in the campaign, these questions will be asked again and again and that eventually Obama will be forced to answer. I’d prefer that now so that the Democratic party and delegates to the convention can make an informed choice when they vote for Obama or Clinton as the party nominee.

Matthew Weaver

The Independent Review

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UPDATE:

I just want to add a clarification to my post. In referencing TexasDarlin and noting his/her anonymity, I meant no disrespect, nor did I dispute what they have written. (For the record, I have also written comments in the past at TexasDarlin site directly.) My point is simply that I personally question anonymous posts and blogs because they lack a name and face behind them. As we see too much of on the Internet today anybody can post just about anything without the slightest chance of being held accountable. I recognize that, as Susan writes here and as both Larry and her have written previously, they have had contact with TexasDarlin and are comfortable with trusting TexasDarlin is legit. Fine. I was not in anyway suggesting this was in error and, again, no disrepect intended.

– Matthew Weaver

  • Shainzona

    BTW, these are all very reasonable questions to be asking of ANY candidate for the office of POTUS.

    So Mr. Sotero, what say you?

  • HARP

    I have consistently said that “I am a victim”

  • Dan

    A brilliant definitive list. I would like to hope this will be picked up by some reporter who’d like to make a name for themself. Imagine being the reporter who brought down the “heir to the throne”.

    My theory is that none of this is going to be acted upon until he is voted in as the nominee, and then, the damage will be unleashed by the Republicans.

    There are so many skeletons in Barry’s closet, if he wins through all the smears, the Republicans would be proven to be even more incompetent and moronic than I had expected.

  • J.J.

    I think that Selective Service has confirmed that Obama registered for the draft. But questions 1-7 are on the mark.

    Obama is stonewalling. We can only hope that at least one state will say, “Produce a certified copy of your birth certificate, or your name will not get on the ballot”.

  • WIldChild

    So what do you think soeMOMO thinks about all this?

  • FrenchNail

    Too many questions unanswered. Especially when a recent officially certified copy of his Birth Certificate (Not of a Certificate of Live Birth, there is a difference)would instantly squashed some of them. And still no comments on the alleged forgery of the provided Certificate of Live Birth.
    Answer the questions Obama!!! You may drawn them in the acclamations of your coronation/convention, but they will resurface right back after in courts.

  • WIldChild

    it would be nice if we could back up a BC with some hospital records.

  • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

    He says he doesn’t have to answer peon’s questions. He is The One.

  • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

    These are not the Jakarta records I knew.

  • FrenchNail

    He is the One (hah!) but the courts are (still) ours.

  • Lurker

    Why can’t I just eat my waffles?

  • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

    We will be hearing alllllllllllll about this after September 1. Till then, the Republicans won’t touch this. If any of us thinks we know something they don’t already know, we are fools. This will be an issue. But it won’t be an issue now. They want Barky as the nominee. We have to face that.

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    2nd that!

  • apishapa

    The date supplied for Barack Obama’s Selective Service registration is September 4, 1990. He was 19. Why did he wait over a year after his 18th birthday to register?

    As a woman I have never had to register for Selective Service, but my son’s have had to. My son’s both received a Selective Service Form to fill out as soon as they turned 18. My younger son, who is now 21, was not able to apply for college financial aid or register for college unless he had registered for the elective Service.

    In Colorado at least, young men are asked when they renew their driver’s license at 18 if they have registered for selective service. Did Obama wait a year after graduation to go to college or did he graduate from high shool a year late? Or were the Rules for financial aid different in the 1980s?

  • http://dontcallmesweetie.blogspot.com/ Blu

    Anyone here from Missouri, the “show-me state”?

  • apishapa

    I’m sorry, I meant the date for his registration is September 4, 1980 not 1990.

  • http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

    Likely why Hillary doesn’t really want the nomination anymore, thanks to Barry, the whole Dem situation is such a powder keg that it will blow up in the face no matter who the nominee is.

    Clean break for Hillary in 2012 after all the trials of Obama are done and he is enjoying government housing in Club Fed.

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    Thank you Matthew!

    Is this the same Matthew from No Quarter radio call in? NO matter still a very well thought out list to be examined!

    #8 sticks out in for me! (especially)

  • http://liberalrapture.com scott in jupiter

    If he were to try to answer any of these questions it would take him 5 or 6 hours and 2 million words to finally get around to calling the questioner a racist and the questions distractions.

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    doh

    it sticks out

    it was stuck in my mind

    out

    in

  • http://theproblemwithobama.com Matthew Weaver

    I tend to agree. As the Obama coup is near complete we might just as well sit back and let the Republicans clean house. I’m sure they have not been sitting around idly and once the conventions are over things will get real busy as they likely will trot ut all kinds of things we never even got around to asking. Good thing is, after November Dean, Brazile, and the rest that came with them will be gone. Maybe the media will also clear out the likes of Roland Martin, Chris Matthews, and others, too.

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    whoa, instant answer (i just asked that)

    thanks ;-)

  • Laura

    The wording of question #7 should be reworked because it assumes Barry was adopted and became an Indonesian citizen because of what is written on the school record.

    I believe it is just as likely that Barry’s step-father (or whoever filled out the form) took the path of least resistant and lied on the school form. Why go into all the details on a form that aren’t particularly important, especially back in those days.

    It’s common enough for the children of blended families to try to “bond” behind one last name. And with Obama, Sr not around at all (was he deceased at that time?) I’m not surprised that the family wanted Barry to use Soetoro as his last name. And its very possible a formal adoption was never done.

  • Marjorie

    The day after the announcement Hillary’s name will be placed in nomination at the Denver Convention, I received this message from Donna Brazile [I have not given any $ to the DNC, and indicated on several occasions I do not support the DNC].

    “On August 28, Barack Obama is going to take that stage in Denver and accept the nomination. After that, we have fewer than 70 days to elect Senator Obama and give him a Senate majority that will help instead of hinder him. That’s why the DSCC needs your support today. Even as little as $5 from you can make a huge difference.”

    Maybe Donna didn’t hear about Hillary and her nomination in Denver?

  • http://liberalrapture.com scott in jupiter

    He’ll direct them to his website.
    No you can’t see a hard copy that would be racist.

  • http://youtube.com/user/NLee777 N. Lee

    I hope the Republican DO bring these issues to the table. Since when has Americans elected or even entertained the thought of electing a president that has dual citizenship with loyalties outside this nation. This is wacko!

  • s. hall

    Would Jesus have had to submit himself to questions like these?

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    If any of us thinks we know something they don’t already know, we are fools.

    sigh, see every once in a while I hear my mind telling be that which is why last night I was sounding so defeated (it was true)

    I still have some hope but it’s growing dim, dim, dim. Did you vote for a VP? Just curious. Whom did you choose?

  • Shainzona

    You mean pee-ons….like me?

  • yttik

    McCain has had to address this issue with the circumstances of his own birth. There have been lawsuits and a resolution passed in congress to try and declare him “natural born”. He has produced his birth certificate and responded to the allegations.

    What people are asking of Obama is completely reasonable. It’s what other people have asked of McCain.

    Now personally, I dream of the supreme court stepping in after the election and declaring both our candidates unqualified under the Constitution, LOL. Sorry people, you’ll have to pick some better candidates. These two don’t qualify.

  • agent77

    Hey bad for us analysis on Politically Drunk…

    The article says we are (and it also feels like we are) being set up for a big let down…

    Would they trick us like this, consequently making us dislike him and the Dem party more?

    If Hillary releases her delegates, I will be forever pissed for denying her and me a chance to have her to have her true part under the rules and be honored for real

    http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/08/obamas-grand-gesture-to-clinton.html

  • s. hall

    uppity — The Republicans have Obama’s original BC. They have been to Kenya, Indonesia, Pakistan and Hawaii this Summer. They are ready for The One.

  • http://youtube.com/user/NLee777 N. Lee

    Yes, Israel had tight records in Jesus’s time. Remember, the reason Jesus was born in Bethlehem was because Joseph and Mary had to travel there to register for a census. Jesus was hounded with many questions by the Pharisees and Saducees while he walked on the earth.

  • s. hall

    laura — in Indonesia you are the religion of your father.

  • s. hall

    n lee — I don’t care what color Obama is — I do care what flag he salutes. I am going to vote for the real American–McCain.

  • navyvet48

    McCain is qualified to be POTUS. Both his parents were American citizens. He was born in a US Military Hospital….since his father was military at the time.

    On Obama he must answer these questions. Will he? I doubt thinks he doesn’t have to. He believes that answering these questions will make him transparent and no longer a blank slate. The only thing I see in Obambi is an inveterate liar!

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    argh! See Laura, this is IT really!!

    This kind of garbled confused home life tragedy goes on every day in America, etc and we are all messed up a bit because of it but we accept it cuz we are just average citizens.

    BUT

    DO NOT TRY TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT with THIS kind of family garbage and tragedy following you where ever you go and expect to be elected!
    YOU’RE NUTS (barry & company) if you to even consider it.

    Unless, of course, you already KNOW it’s all being rigged just for YOU? :-?

    In that case we need LOTS of tools lawyers at the ready to challenge any decisions from here in on out!! :-(

    jmo

  • Andy

    CBS run w/ story where the original book with the school registration (same as photo above) in Indonesia appears. Here is the YouTube video thanks to previous comments by LBz and JimJ:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqIT35lUMvU

  • imustprotest

    She probably thinks we’re raising the bar again.

  • s. hall

    navy vet 48 — If Obama answers these questions he won’t be able to run for President. So instead he lives from news cycle to news cycle. Try to fool as many people as you can — THEN CHEAT.

  • Steve in KC

    The MSM won’t report it until it’s released by someone with national recognition or playing on broadcast TV (e.g., 527 ads). The MSM no longer has the balls to truly investigate it because of what happened to Dan Rather. And I doubt that John McCain will make it an issue himself, so that leaves the heavy lifting to the back-room boys of politics, the 527s. I’m sure the RNC black ops will make sure they have all the ammo they need.

    And I agree, nothing happens till after the Convention. So all the more heat applies to who will be the VP pick for His Nibs. Is there anyone left with any credibility? Oh, I forgot, credibility no longer matters to the DNC. snark

  • FrenchNail

    I believe he has mentioned two different Hawaiian hospitals as his place of birth. Both are private institutions governed by privacy laws. Hence like for the Birth Certificate, Obama is the only one (right now) to have the authority to release such information in the public domain. As of now because the DNC is also a private institution and because he is NOT yet the official Democrat Candidate, there is no real legal angle to force him to produce documents. But the minute he enters his name on the ballot in any state, things change. (BTW, to enter your name on the ballot you just have to certify in an affivavit that you are fitting the requirements. Proof is only demanded if the affidavit is challenged in court.)

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    roflmao!

    That would be a FIRST TIME for me joining the SUPREMES CHEER LEADING SQUAD (if they did that)

    roflol!

    What a world turned UPSIDE DOWN!

  • Hope

    Maybe Oprah can do a series on finding out the truth about the ‘One’ she supported without responsibility.
    Remember the book author she scolded for representing a fictional work as an autobiography; how come no similar response to Obama’s falsifications?
    Are we to assume skin color is deeper than morals?

    Perpetuating this fraud is beyond a mistake, it is dangerous in these times of threatened national security on several fronts. All those supporting this sham need to be held accountable for their efforts to persuade American citizens to comply.

  • roseeriter

    Are you equating Obama with Jesus?? Oh my. Jesus didn’t lie. Obama does every time he opens his mouth.

    Obama is more like Osama. Elusive. We don’t know WHERE Osama is and we don’t know who Obama is.

  • Andy

    I agree with the conclusions of the article you link above. NPR already reported HRC will announce at convention she will cast her SD vote for BO and ask everyone to do the same at the convention. They are even trying to find a way to release her secret ballot as SD showing she indeed voted for BO… This is beyond humiliating….

  • missE

    Kanye West would like to remind you that he is down with Obama being compared to God but only Kanye can be compared to Jesus.

  • democracyfirst

    I received that too. It gave me the creeps just to read it.

    It also told me how to set up a party to celebrate on the day Obama is not nominated and if I got enough people to donate at the party, I would get … I don’t remember what. The email was disgusting me.

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    what a puff piece

    fluffy here boy

  • roseeriter

    Two hospitals?? the white side in one and the black in the other? OY!

  • http://theindependentview.com Matthew Weaver

    No, different Matthew.

  • s. hall

    andy — typical of the media — its all been nicely whitewashed. How about the name change or the divided loyalties? How about the Bar questionaire in which he lied about having other names? What is his name on his passport? Does he hold dual citizenship with Indonesia, Kenya or Pakistan?

  • FrenchNail

    I agree with you. Hillary does not want to be the nominee and have to stand in front of a packed stadium of 75000 Obama supporters booing her. Who would? But she wanted to be on the record as having being on the roll call as a valid nominee and as having relinquished her delegates after such vote. So, if Obama has later to step down (illegibility questions) she has the most powerful argument to be on the top of the ticket versus Obama choosen VP.

  • Lorey

    This matter must be settled before the convention. We can’t let this guy be nominated.

  • agent77

    do you have a link to prove he registered for the draft?

  • wodiej

    Are we to assume skin color is deeper than morals?

    aparrently so….

  • jim

    Mr. Soetoro was Army and given the political situation in Indonesia at the time I don’t think he was going to be doing anything like lying – especially back in those days.

  • roseeriter

    That would be a hoot. We could have a raffle for POTUS..or a lottery..

  • Mandelay

    Several months prior to the premiere of the film “The Usual Suspects,” street light posts and fences around construction sites all over my home town of Manhattan, New York City, were plastered with the question: “Who is Keyser Soze?” These simple 8.5 x 11 sheets, imprinted with a simple question and plastered all over the city, built up very high levels of curiosity and everyone was talking about it. What does it mean? At home, at work, everyone in the city was referencing these simple handbills. Of course the local news grabbed the story right away. The momentum built up and finally, the premiere of the movie solved the mystery. Can you imagine how a similar, simple ad campaign, with handbills made on computers every where and handed out all over, could quickly spread the story of “Who is Barry Soetoro?” This is a story that continues to remain trapped on the Internet. Isn’t it time to get the word out on the street?

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    LOL!

  • Andy

    Puff piece indeed. here they have some unknown guy in that school dismissing what is written in the document as “oh no that was just customary” as in “it bears no importance” and happy the journalist go. It is appalling… Unbelievable.

    It is interesting though the camera zooms into the book where the exact same document appears. Kind of
    irrefutable proof the photo is legit: that “reporter” in Inside Edition SAW the original book with the document.

  • standard

    It is to our credit that Trolls are racheting up their attempts at demoralizing us as the convention nears.

    We are up against BIG money.

  • http://confloyd connie floyd

    Lee, are thinking that Obama is Jesus or what? This is not questions to be the Messiah, these are questions pertaining to running our country. They are biblical questions!!

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    PAhahaha!

  • FrenchNail

    They probably do. and Hillary’s camp and most of the DNC big cheeses also know about that. But unless a copy of his Birth Certificate was ordered by O himself or was court-ordered released, the copy was not legally obtained. So, nobody will touch it for now, at least until Obama is the official Dem Candidate and is entering his name on the ballot at every state level. Then, he can be officialy challenged to provide a recent official copy of his Birth Certificate.

  • agent77

    Was Hillary the Winner? If she won, way am I more worried than before?

    http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2008/08/14/2008-08-14_barack_obama_blinks_in_hillary_faceoff.html

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    that “guy” looked like he might kiss the desk that barry sat at (ending with an improper preposition I still don’t care)

    lol

    rrrrrrrreally puff

  • Hope

    So falsifying documents to save face is okay with you? Well, Barry seems to agree..like father like son, huh?

    Funny, I have to provide many personal and confidential documents to register my children in school in America with a diverse population in a democracy. Think Indonesia has less strict rules?

    When your personal history doesn’t suit your inflated ego..just CHANGE it, after all… it’s change the suckers will believe in.

  • imustprotest

    Exactly. It was so fake. How many people remember a kid in their 3 or 4th grade class and exactly which seat he sat in 40 years ago? They acted like they were all his BFFS!

  • Andy

    I agree 100% with you. You are asking exactly the right questions and we do not have any answers. They are simple for Obama to clarify with the pertinent original documents. He is running for POTUS for G’ sake!!!

  • wodiej

    exactly….

  • Grail Guardian

    Tsk, tsk. Simply open a copy of the New Testament. The Book of Matthew starts out with a very lengthy and detailed birth record for Yeshua (He disclosed his real name) listing his creds to be considered King of the Jews.

    Apparently the standards for messiahs has been lowered since then.

  • Donutdrinkp

    Now, this is compelling and all, but I don’t think that it would make him ineligible. I was just reading law, and it says that the US has no problem with Dual Citizenship. And, it alludes to the fact that no child can lose their citizenship. If this is the correct reading, then there is no problem.

  • WIldChild

    It’s amazing what soeBOBO will do when faced with the specter of falling poll numbers.

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    LMAO

    oh puke at the thought

    I’d be first in line for HELL FIRE if he were the TRUE ONE

  • C.S.

    Except that Barry wasn’t “bonding” in the U. S. but in what was then a police state with severe penalties imposed for government officials who broke the rules. Especially one with an American wife, which would make him stand out from other Indonesians, and trying to hide her obviously non-Indonesian offspring as an Indonesian citizen. If Soetoro valued his career and his freedom he would want everything Indonesian legal.

    And if your scenario is true, why go through all the subterfuge? Barack Obama wasn’t trying to get work at the local McDonald’s; he’s running for government jobs during a post 9/11 mentality that allows for anyone (you included) to be wiretapped and investigated as a possible terrorist. How did Obama escape notice through THREE political campaigns when we citizens who have never been out of the USA and never visited a “terrorist country” can’t even get on an airplane without proving we aren’t terrorists?

  • TimNCGuy

    Wouldn’t the best way to pressure Obama to answer these questions be to send the same list of questions to McCain and get him to answer for himself?

  • Hope

    Would they trick us like this, consequently making us dislike him and the Dem party more?

    Of course they will trick, lie to, assualt anyone who gets in their way. There is virtually no chance of Hillary becoming the nominee. There has been no one, NO ONE, in the party stating that it is even a possibility, including Hillary. She will do as she’s required and hope to get the nomination in 2012. The fat lady is warming up and there will be only two choices…Obama or MCCain.

  • wodiej

    I second that…

  • Grail Guardian

    Oprah has said so for months. Let us not forget her rousing speech where she announced that women have achieved equality but African Americans have not, so it’s OK not to vote for Hillary because Barack needs your black vote more.

    Puhleeze do not raise the specter of that woman again!

  • Andy

    What the problem with this is that BO will point out to this story and say: “oh that’s all old I have been asked and replied to all of that” and the media will help him so that it doesn’t enter the public consciouness at all…

    The questions that for example s.hall (comment below) asks are the obvious ones anyone would think to ask: the whole document raises them and
    they should be simple for Obama to answer. Yet
    NOONE in the MSM is asking them: WTH is this???

  • Firefly

    THAT is a great idea Mandelay! Flyers and signs ALL OVER DENVER!

    I wish I could go to Denver – can’t. But we need to spread this idea to everyone who is going – maybe post it at RiverDaughter, Allegre, bitterpoliticz and others?

    Posters and signs and handbills can’t be very expensive, but whatever they cost, I’d be more than willing to contribute.

  • gotalife

    Did you post this for our friends at the TPM Election blog?

  • Cecile Brown

    I think you all are a set of racist and hypocrites. Please go dig into John McCain’s background for a change !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

  • Hope

    No problem if you want a lying, deceptive, inept President that has allegiances to countries and groups other than America.

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    When your personal history doesn’t suit your inflated ego..just CHANGE it, after all… it’s change the suckers will believe in.

    oooooewwwwww good one!!!

    profoundly profound

    (scary even) :-]

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    ARGHHHHH!

    (we’ll see)

  • FrenchNail

    It has been anounced Oprah will be front and center ar the Convention. So no holding our breaths there for a public act of contrition from her.

  • Judy

    The strange part of this is Obama will come back calling people hate filled names. Everyone is racist and liars.

    When all he has to do is answer the freakin questions!!!!!!!!!

    Stop with the accusations – putting up a smoke screen are we???

    If this was McCain, he would systematically provide documentation to answer every question. The very fact that Obama will not provide documentation is a very telling factor.

    Corsi has been called every name in the planet by Obama and his attack dogs. I saw one of them on Hannity, and the guy looked like an idiot – he would not answer any questions – he just kept going to Corsi is a liar, etc.

    Just provide the documents, and while you are at it throw in ALL of your medical records.

  • Grail Guardian

    Is that why Matthew only asked 8 questions? We all know 9 are off limits…

  • The Real Hope

    And that is exactly what Obama would be if elected!

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    AND (lmao) the one teacher or fellow student (female) said he was GOOD AT MATH!!

    GEE ya think??? 3rd grade Indonesian arithmetic is just so hard! Maybe it prepared him for his future gaming of the caucuses???

    pftttt

  • Grail Guardian

    Ding ding ding!!!

  • Dan R.

    This is why John McCain will win:

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-mccain-faithaug15,0,575244.story

    Once American voters have a chance to hear stories like this … and they compare them with someone who would openly court the favor of people like Jerimiah “God damn America!” Wright and William Ayers … the choice will be clear.

    Issues are important, but so is character.

  • The Real Hope

    Donut,
    That is a rather simplistic summation of the law regarding dual citizenship which would need further study. Law, if one is not studied in its concepts, is a very difficult thing to decipher. PERIOD!

  • catherine

    When is a MSM network going to do its job and notify the public of this potentially fraudulent candidate? There appears to be more than enough evidence to raise questions. There are denying the public the RIGHT TO KNOW information that could drastically effect our future. Knowing about Anna Nicole Smith is not going to effect any of us but knowing about Obama’s birth history potentially IS. Where did these people go to journalism school?

  • Grail Guardian

    Putting on my tin hat for a moment, perhaps that would be an ideal way for W to declare martial law and stay in office to prevent the chaos that would ensue by having no eligible Presidential candidates…

    Brrr – just gave myself the shivers!

  • C.S.

    If she becomes an active versus passive participant in this sham election, then she is not the candidate we thought she was. I’m not saying it can’t happen, but look at all the lies they “leaked” about her “giving up” during the primaries.

    However, not having much faith of her even being given an equal seat at the convention banquet table, I have resigned myself to a McCain presidency. They can call him all the names and say all the negative things they want, but I do believe it is best to go “with the devil you know” than the devil you know nothing about. McCain isn’t Bush and McCain isn’t Obama and that will have to be enough for this election if what you say is true. At least we’ll “live to fight another day.”

  • Skiron

    So because he lived in Indonesia and potentially had dual citizenship (not that it was his choice) when he was 6 OR 7 YEARS OLD, he has allegiance to that country over the U.S. now, 40 years later? A more idiotic idea I have never heard.

  • HARP

    Oh…OK.

  • roseeriter

    Yeah but KANYE/Caine killed his brother..

  • Grail Guardian

    We don’t want to vote for McCain. You are forcing us to. Get it? You’d better (before it’s too late)!

  • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

    s. hall. I have NO doubt whatsoever. And that little smoke and mirror trip into the passport files Obama pulled won’t matter either.

  • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

    He most certainly knows how to do that evening prayer call. You don’t read how to do that in a book.

  • imustprotest

    Skiron….I noticed the word “iron” in your name as in “Iron my shirt.”? Then what is the Sk that precedes the iron?

  • Judy

    Are we in a 3rd World environment where government controlled media only publishes what they want the masses to hear?? Who is pulling NBC and CNN’s strings? They definitely have an agenda -

    NBC, MSNBC, CNN are still shamelessly biased. I can’t stand Campbell Brown – she is right up there with Chris Mathews and Keith O.

    I absolutely shutter at their names.

    To withhold information from the American public is criminal. Especially, since so much is at stake.

  • roseeriter

    Well the whole thing is a set up. Dean and Obama were meeting back in 2004 was Obama even a senator then? I mean there just shouldn’t be so many questions and uncertaintys from either the left or right.

    I’m sick of the way OUR government plays us for fools, rips us off and Don’t listen to us. Sick of it.

  • NO for O

    Stop! You are killing me…I can’t stop laughing about the “standards.”

  • Kick Barry to the Curb

    However, the laws in Indonesia at the time did not allow for dual citizenship (that was changed about a year ago), so to become an Indonesian citizen, the original citizenship would have to be renounced and officially invalidated.

    These are all very big ifs, but have never been answered.

    Perhaps his father at the time never did anything official and was able to fill out the paperwork and escape scrutiny, but the circumstances around his marrying an American at that time and his position make that unlikely.

    Anyway, you look at it, the questions are legit.

  • roseeriter

    well then he learned how..lol that an the art of poll taking..

  • http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/08/15/ap-confirms-school-records-listing-obama-as-barry-soetoro-indonesian-citizen-are-legit/ AP Confirms School Records Listing Obama as “Barry Soetoro”, Indonesian Citizen, are Legit « HillBuzz

    [...] August 15, 2008 AP Confirms School Records Listing Obama as “Barry Soetoro”, Indonesian Citizen, are Legit Posted by hillbuzz under Uncategorized   VIA NoQuarter [...]

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    Pahahaha!

    love your bell

  • Percy11

    Jesus was not adopted nor was he running to be President of the US

  • Elle

    There’s documentation for everything. You can’t lie in Indonesia or for that matter Asia. You can bribe and ‘buy’ those documentations, but not lie.

  • roseeriter

    Where have you been? This occurred all through the Bush years. The NEWS changed big time when CNN was bought from Ted Turner- it’s never been the same sense. The MSM & Corporations Need us to be controlled, consumers and stupid.

  • Hope Floats

    I heard they do kinky stuff at those all-male, drug-fueled hotel parties. Pee-ons…

  • Skiron

    Yep you’re right, it’s totally a veiled misogynist term.
    Sheesh.

  • Grail Guardian

    When is a MSM network going to do its job and notify the public of this potentially fraudulent candidate?

    Never (they’re being paid not to).

    Where did these people go to journalism school?

    Goldman Sachs, Countrywide, Exelon, Archer Daniels Midland, Google, CitiGroup.

  • http://www.anvp.wordpress.com soldier4hillary
  • http://chriss chris

    She’s heading to Denver to possibly speak, but surely for adoration of the One, so you’d better hurry and get these to her. I’m sure she be glad to oblige you. Not! What a joke that convention will be.

  • Hope Floats

    And what about Kaine for VP? I thought about the implications; this very much becomes a civil rights issue then with shades of Nostradamus.

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    GG

    you won’t believe – when I read that it did NOT freak me out. I mean the part about W. He doesn’t bother me anymore. He’s just a stupid BOOB.

    CHAINSAW was the master mind
    and ROVE (of course doing his masterful job)
    I wish he had more heart for DEMS. But I don’t have a LOT of heart left for them myself for different reasons

    anyway

    BUSHY BOY is the least of my worries anymore

    I think McCain is perhaps MORE hawk than W and BAMBI is just the opposite and if possible more hateful than W

    Lord have Mercy
    it’s come to this

  • Firefly

    Good one, soldier4hillary! I agree wholeheartedly!

  • Ellen D.

    That school form may be unimportant here and now but remember when they filled out that form Indonesia was a dictatorship police state. I don’t think much fiddling was done or people would face unpleasant consequences.

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    Agreed GG and speaking to roseriter – my poll taking talents are renown! (LOL j/k)

    here’s the present tally – so far few doubles and I guess the Rendell voters have left the building? lol
    —————————————–

    08 Election – Pick a VP 4 Hillary!
    Answers Votes Percent

    1. Michael Nutter 10 18%

    2. Geraldine Ferraro 5 9%

    3. Wes Clark 13 23%

    4. John McCain 4 7%

    5. Chuck Hagel 1 2%

    6. Stephanie Tubbs-Jones 15 27%

    7. Pastor Manning 4 7%

    8. Jim Webb 4 7%

    9. Barry Soetoro 0 0%

    10. Ed Rendell 0 0%

  • Grail Guardian

    Time to take our country back!

    PUMA!

  • Uña de Gato

    S4H, I loved your response to that shrill and demeaning Conason piece of garbage. Why is it that the Obama camp thinks that by disrespecting people, they will win their support? Only the most self-loathing coward would fall for such a harangue. Conason is living proof that the empty pot rings the loudest.

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    oops forgot to ADD the LINK

    to participate

  • Grail Guardian

    The main advantage McCain has is that he won’t win a second term.

    Bush in and of himself doesn’t scare me anymore either. I’ve just been wondering what Mr. Rove has been up to while not making his relatively innocuous commentaries on Fox…

  • se
  • kat in your hat

    What a nightmare!!!!! Everyday something new and horrible comes out, and it’s been going on for so many months…

  • Grail Guardian

    Just voted for Stephanie Tubbs Jones. Can’t believe she’s not doing better!

  • Idiocracy08

    If his mother became an Indonesian citizen because she married Lolo…why doesn’t people ask the question if she became a Kenyan citizen when she married Barack Sr?

    She had just turned 18 and was pregnant. I’m sure she expected she would be going back to Kenya with her husband once he was done with school. Why wouldn’t she have become a Kenyan citizen? Especially if she wanted to please Barack Sr’s dad.

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    so to become an Indonesian citizen, the original citizenship would have to be renounced and officially invalidated.

    rut roh!

  • JohnnyB

    Elect Barry Soetoro President in November.

  • imachatter

    Is this the lurker?

  • http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    BREAKING!!!
    BREAKING!!!
    BREAKING!!!

    MAIN STREAM MEDIA PICKS UP STORY AND THE 8 QUESTIONS – Makes slight revision before presenting them to Obama Campaign!!

    Original: Are you now a U.S. citizen?
    MSM Revision: How is your Bowling?

    Original: Have you ever held as a youth or adult, citizenship in another country?
    MSM Revision: How many waves did you catch body surfing?

    Original: Did you ever possess or travel using, at least in part, the passport of another country? (E.g., while in Indonesia, visiting Pakistan, Kenya)
    MSM Revision: Arugala or Endive? and more importantly, Ranch or Italian?

    Original: Did you renounce any foreign citizenship, and when, and do you now hold solely U.S. citizenship today?
    MSM Revision: What did you think of The Dark Knight? Didn’t the Joker Remind you of Hillary?

    Original: Can you confirm or deny your name change as a youth from Barack Hussein Obama II to Barry Soetoro when you were adopted by your step-father?
    MSM Revision: Have you started designed the new basket ball court for the White House yet?

    Original: Did you legally reclaim your birth name? When and how?
    MSM Revision: You know Senator your life story is so gosh darn fascinating and interesting, most americans can only dream of having such an interesting and accomplished life as you have had. Tell us Senator, how do you cope with being so amazing and supercalafragalisticexopealadocious?

    Original: Why did you not list your adopted name Barry Soetoro on any forms associated with your legal profession or others that ask for any other names you have ever used?
    MSM Revision: Senator, knowing how image concious americans are, the american public is dying to know, how you stay so gosh darn skinny and good looking?

    Original: Have you now or will you update these records?
    MSM Revision: How is going to be designing Michelles Inauguration Ball dress? Will Ludicrous be performing? Did we mention how gosh darn good looking you are in a suit?

    Original: And by the way, did you register with the U.S. Selective Service when you turned 18?
    MSM Revision: How did you say your bowling was again Senator? I know some of our questions are tough and hard hitting but we want to make sure we quote you accurately!

    BREAKING!!!
    BREAKING!!!
    BREAKING!!!

  • Hope Floats

    Bingo. Every time she has been asked about being the VP or possibly challenging Obama for the nom, you’ve seen panic in her eyes. I think she enjoys the rumors and the paranoia she elicits from his supporters and the media. But I think she would rather run again in 2012 unless something happens where Obama’s disqualified from running this year.

  • http://blog.changeandhttp://blog.changeandexperience.com/2008/08/barack-obamas-indonesian-registration.html Matthew

    And a different one here as well.

    Interesting updated information:

    The Chicago Tribune may have been the reason why this never made the light of day. They threw it out the window citing that the document was rife with errors such as Obama being listed as an Indonesian, and that his mother appeared no where on the document.

    Consider this:
    Considering that Obama Sr. proved a poor father figure and Obama Jr. only met him once or twice in his lifetime, would Lolo Soetero not consider Obama Jr. as his own son and adopt him? Hence the name Barry Soetero.

    The same Chicago Tribune columnist that wrote the article citing the errors even writes a separate article the same dame acknowledging that Obama was known as Barry by his friends.

    Did the Chicago Tribune consider that the person writing down the information got confused by Line 8b where it states, write the name of the mother only if the father is deceased? (According to the accepted timeline of events, Obama was enrolled in that school in 1968, Obama Sr. died in the earlier 1980s.) This simple oversight could have been the reason why Ann Dunham appeared no where on the document.

    Read more.

  • Hope Floats

    French Nail, you have a good grasp of the situation.

  • Grail Guardian

    That depends on your religious beliefs. Most Christians believe Yeshua was adopted by Yusef/Joseph (they believe his true father was Yahweh/Jehovah).

    And no, he wasn’t running for POTUS, but he was trying to legitimize himself as King of the Jews which was just as important 2,000 years ago.

    And the similarities don’t end there, either. The Obots truly believe Obama would be resurrected if he died and save them from eternal damnation (or at least from ugly older white people).

  • se

    The date supplied for Barack Obama’s Selective Service registration is September 4, 1990. He was 19. Why did he wait over a year after his 18th birthday to register?

    Because he HAD to wait. That’s because Selective Service registration wasn’t re-instated until July 1980. Ford had terminated it in 1975. Jimmy Carter re-instated it in July 1980.

    I was born in 1961. I was 20 when I registered.

    se

  • Sassy

    All simple forthright questions which should be answered!
    The biggest question of all, in my mind, is why are ordinary citizens being forced to ask them!
    This is ridiculous…the Democratic Party, every one of them should be standing in the spotlight and legitimizing the “O”…IF THEY CAN!
    If they can’t they deserve everything that’s coming at them!

  • Hope Floats

    I want to hear the tape of Kristof’s! Do you think the RNC will unload the full arsenal on BO?

  • C.S.

    How about the approximate 40 year time lapse from 1963-64 and those smiling kids in 2007 or 08?

    Obama/Soertoro was a resident (or citizen) of Indonesia during a time of a government in transition brought on by the assassination of 6 of it’s generals and a Communist group trying to overthrow its government. I doubt kids growing up in this climate of fear shares much with the smiling kids depicted in this video.

    It’s like that old apples and oranges comparison.

    To ignore this impact on the children who “knew” Barry would be like ignoring the impact on kids who lived through the Civil Rights movement by comparing them with kids today.

  • roseeriter

    Gosh there was a bunch of loonies thinking the same thing about Bush. gag…gag…gag

  • Hope Floats

    That’s interesting. I did not know he was army and an oil executive. Please do not mistake this for sarcasm; I’m serious. It makes for a stronger case that Indonesia was meticulous in its record-keeping.

  • http://blog.changeandexperience.com/2008/08/barack-obamas-indonesian-registration.html Matthew

    ‘same dame’ is an error and is supposed to be ‘same day’

  • http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    BO

    stands for

    Barack Obama – confirmed
    Body Odor – Confirmed
    Bend Over – Soon to be confirmed if America lets this fraud get elected.

  • se

    Oops. Meant I was born in 1960.

    se

  • http://logisticsmonster.wordpress.com/2008/08/10/puma-politics-kenyan-obama/ PUMA Politics: Kenyan Obama « Logistics Monster

    [...] is a problem.  The AP has confirmed the photograph and Michael Weaver has written a piece about 8 questions that need to be answered by Obama/Soetoro before he can continue to run for president.  The [...]

  • Ellen D.

    Don’t be so hard on Hillary. When you are aboard the Titanic and it is sinking you row like hell to get out of the way before it sucks you under too.

    I think that would be a master stroke for Hillary – she can’t be seen to be associated in any way with the likes of us so she proclaims her vote for Obama and urges her contingent to do the same. Urging would be a lot better than her telling her supporters they HAVE TO vote for him. After all, she’s been urging us the same way all along and this would just demonstrate again that she’s loyal to the party. We, on the other hand, think for ourselves, so no matter.

  • Soldier of Christ

    Very funny…guys and gals. Gosh…wouldn’t it be wonderful if Hillary would keep her mouth shut at the convention and doesn’t release away her delegates and every state will call out her name at the roll call? I could see Michelle Obama’s mouth screaming ” racist” racist” they took my husband’s presidency!” Gosh..wouldn’t it be wonderful if all the states just yelled Hillary’s name instead of this scary man’s name? Wouldn’t it be wonderful if Hillary and Anne Lewis kept their opinions to themselves about unity? Wouldn’t it be wonderful if someone whispers in Hillary’s ear and say “Iownmyown vote and JUSTNODEAL” and maybe she will stop trying to push Obama down our throats? Wouldn’t this be wonderful?

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    tsk! (shakin my low hanging head)

    Big sigh

  • WIldChild

    Huston, we have a problem…

    OVERVIEW OF THE PRIVACY ACT OF 1974, 2004 EDITION

    1. Disclosure: Subsection (b)

    With varying degrees of clarity, the courts generally have ruled that a disclosure in violation of subsection (b) does not occur unless the plaintiff’s record was actually retrieved by reference to his name or personal identifier.

    http://www.usdoj.gov/oip/1974definitions.htm#disclosure

  • beverly leslie

    These are all good questions. I also believe the Religious aspect is an important one because he has lied outright to the American people regarding this question. Not only has he lied but the MSM constantly lies about him never being a Muslim. The american people have every right to know this information and not feel shy or racist demanding we know the truth.

    I will now quote John Adams:

    “LIBERTY CANNOT BE PRESERVED WITHOUT A GENERAL KNOWLEDGE AMONG THE PEOPLE, WHO HAVE A RIGHT, AN INDISPUTABLE, UNALIENABLE, INDEFEASIBLE, DIVINE RIGHT TO THAT MOST DREADED AND ENVIED KIND OF KNOWLEDGE, I MEAN THE CHARACTERS AND CONDUCT OF THEIR RULERS.”

    We have every right to know everything about Barky Hussein Obambi a.k.a. barry soetero, including his religion and if we do not like it is our right to not cast a vote for what we do not like.

  • Annie Oakley

    Look, uh, just because um, the notion that, um that somehow… um, just because I knew myself, uh, for 5 hours, 20 years ago, that, um somehow that excuses you folks from being racists is uh ridiculous.

  • Hope Floats

    God, Donna Brazile is a nightmare of the nanny state accessory, like Elsa Kleg channeled through Don King. When I read these letters of hers, I imagine her just grabbing you by the ear and demanding total compliance – frightening! I hate bullies.

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    OHHH!! That calls for this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiKAdyixU3U

    Chappelle does R KELLY

    Im gonna pixx on you…..

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Interesting…he was able to escape scrutiny all this time…hmmmmmmm, either the republicans allowed him to do so or they can’t pour piss out of a boot and we’re lucky the terrorists haven’t taken over the country…yet.

  • Elle

    “Are we in a 3rd World environment where government controlled media only publishes what they want the masses to hear??”

    That’s exactly the irony – Obama grew up in Indonesia at a time when the press was biased and under the control of President Soeharto. Today Indonesia enjoys freedom of the press and free elections, Soeharto has been deposed (1998, during the Clinton Administration) and the Presidency is no longer a dictatorship, thanks to Western democratic influence.

    He probably learned a thing or two about tyranny and absolute power even then.

    He is dangerous.

  • roseeriter

    Geez Jeremiah- you did that so well you must be a journalist of the MSM…lol- perfect translation and execution.

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    Zell has been bankrolling Obummer for a while now, thus none of his papers cover the real issues on Obummer…

  • Hope Floats

    Have I said before how much I detest this charlatan?

  • wodiej

    yes it would be wonderful. I think there are just too many chickenshits afraid of the “racist” label.

  • Hope Floats

    The more I dig into John McCain’s background, the more I want to vote for him.

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Ya know what, I really don’t think Bush wants to play king anymore, he doesn’t like hard work and I’m sure he’s tired of his handlers always taking away his coke, booze and scooting Jeff Gannon out the back before Laura wakes up.

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    Agreed!!

    OMMMMM

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    me too! Thanks for giving me another great bookmark 4 your site! I left you a msg over there as well! Pretty scene, is it Hawaii? (lol)

  • harvey

    Then Howard Dean must be the reincarnation of John the Baptist. Wonder if there is a record where Dean baptized Barrak? OH, WAIT, Dr Wright baptized Barrak and the buzzard came down and shit on Barrak’s head and annointing him as “the one” all the freaks had been looking for.

  • Ellen D.

    I love the video of Obama bodysurfing that accompanies the article of McCain’s POW experiences.

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    anyone caught lying then in Indonesia may have been running for their lives a short time later

    no way

    he was adopted, period.

  • Hope Floats

    The men who signed our Constitution did not think this was so idiotic. People like you need flushed out of our system. The integrity of the founders’ principles must be maintained to ensure the safety and autonomy of our country.

  • se

    Where’s the plaintiff here?

    se

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    gee ya think she already knew he was married?

    nah, probably just was messing with him to get BACK at her typical “white, bitter, racist” parents.

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    lmao U R Baaaad! ;-)

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    it will be full circle and balance will be restored wouldnt it?

    sounds like the Universe in action to me..

    OMMMMMMMMMMMM

  • Hope Floats

    No. There were Senate hearings held for McCain, and he answered every question that could be put to him by the public. Obama should be held to the same standard.

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    oh yes GG I have looooong thought that Obummer’s idiotic Alinsky baiting and his supporters’ preplanned calls and threats for rioting will give Bush EXACTLY what he needed to declare martial law..

  • C.S.

    Why? McCain has been through the courts. It’s Barry/Barack Soertoro/Obama’s turn now.

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    I call bullshit

    Anyone who is ready to BELIEVE frakkin lyin NPR or ANY other media source now after seeing what has bene done to Hillary and her supporters for the past year is really needing a vacation okay?

    Pullllezze

    dont believe the hype and dont spread the Hillary hate okay peeps?

    Hillary is POTUS

    WOOT!!

    BOOYAH!!

    some folks cant seem to enjoy a small victory and continue the battle without turning on each other

    dont do their job for them

  • an observer

    Glass half empty:
    The article is correct if nothing breaks between now and then.
    Glass half full:
    She’s scheduled to be nominated so if something breaks between then and now she’ll get it.

  • J.J.

    I don’t know about the rest of you, but I am totally sick of the use of the word “somehow” by Obama, and now his supporters. The use of that word is like the spread of the plague.

  • AnyoneButClinton

    McCain’s worth over $100 million, 10 homes, fancy loafers, weird smirk, cant lift his arms above his shoulder, crashed three planes during his esteemed service, failed numerous courses, cheated on his wife while she was recovering from an accident (but its ok – he was a POW – thanks Sean), loves lobbyists, Panama Canal Birth, loves lobbyists, hates conservatives, hates liberals, so that makes him a….Good Candidate for President??????

    Gooooooooooo PUMA!

  • Hope Floats

    It’s Bush v. Kerry all over again.

    Son of a US President from Texas v. windsurfing coward married to a fancy ketchup wife.

    POW and distinguished Senator with a lifetime spent serving this country v. bodysurfing celebrity ditz with a shady past in the Chicago Daley Machine who hangs out with terrorists, crooks and blame America leftists and was in the US Senate 143 before running for the highest office in the land.

    Obviously, the Republicans need to refine this, and they have a late start. I have full faith in their abilities, though.

  • Grail Guardian

    And there goes your argument, se/MarkL/Ray/Joseph Cannon. You expect us to believe you forgot what year you were born?

    A pox upon your posts, troll!

  • harvey

    Obama may have to take off every year to make the pilgrmage to Mecca. Just think how presidential he would look when he gives his state of the union speech at the Dome of the Rock. ;)

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    dont buy it for one sceond Dawnelle

    Hillary is doing al she can and so are we

    all we can do is get her on the nomination, and the dels have to do the rest

    thye ARE fighting for what is right

    ie Sasha Millstone denver del

    the Obummer Team LOST THIS BATTLE

    they did NOT want a nomination roll call

    he said it on the plane, we dont want catahrsis, we want energy and excitement, they r working it out

    then asked will their be a roll call, he said, i didnt say that

    ANYONE who thinks his EGO could handle this is nuts

    this was FORCED on him and I wil enjoy ever second of it

    PUMA helped make this happen

    THE DENVER GROUP should be thanked

    keep giving everyone so we can ensure a fair nomination call

    celebrate our battle win and keep fighting

    the media pushback and BS spin seems to be working and I dont know why ANYONE would believe ANYTHING they hear from those tools right now

    I sure as hell dont

    HILALRY IS POTUS

    BOOYAH!

  • The Real Hope

    Go talk to the FRAMERS OF THE CONSTITUTION!!

  • Hope Floats

    I actually posted this downthread. Weird.

  • imustprotest

    ABC you of all people will understand this so listen up…for me:k

    Anyone but Soreto/Obama/Dunham/?

  • Annie Oakley

    I’m with you, roseeriter.

    I’m sick of the way OUR government plays us for fools, rips us off and Don’t listen to us. Sick of it.

  • Grail Guardian

    I am just totally sick of Obama and his supporters.

  • Hope Floats

    Testing?

  • beebop

    I have started to call him Barry Soretoes … don’t step on them. He gets upset when you get too close to him ….

  • Debalee

    I hope that someone who is going to attend the Democratic National Convention in Denver will print up the eight questions, listed in bold type on a single sheet, to the tune of a couple thousand copies and hands them out at the entrance to the convention or gets Clinton supporters to put one on each chair in the convention facility.

  • AnyoneButClinton

    No one is going to do that because these PUMAs do not exist! Wake up!

    Go PUMA!

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    I just voted and our ‘girl’ Stephanie is winning :0)

    she is from Jamaica, NY you know, a home girl after my heart!

  • Idiocracy08

    Did anyone see Corsi on fox & friends this morning mentioning the birth certificate? He said the one on Obama’s website if fake.

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    I just voted and our ‘girl’ Stephanie is winning :0)
    oops I am thinking fo sheila jackson lee!!

    dawnelle cna you add sheila jackson lee!!??

    pretty please :0)

  • Skiron

    Um, yes, it is IDIOTIC to think that he has loyalties to a country he lived in when he was 6 frickin’ years old. Pull your head out.

  • AnyoneButClinton

    Jim Corsi is a brilliant author. We havent seen anything this groundbreaking since James Frey. I hope he comes to the DNC convention and signs copies of his book for all the PUMAs.

    GO PUMA!!!!

  • harvey

    Your jealousy is showing. AND-not a single one of McCain’s (god bless him) numerous homes was acquired through Tony “THE SLUM LORD” Rezko. :)

  • Grail Guardian

    How many dictatorships do you know of that aren’t meticulous record keepers. Or that wouldn’t persecute you for lying on a government form. Or wouldn’t demand detailed documentation of a foreign-born child?

    Soetoro’s adoption of Barry/Barack would have had to have been proven in writing since he was obviously not born Indonesian. A government official would (at the very least) not risk his employment to put a non-muslim child into a state school. Occam’s Razor seems to apply here. The documents say that Barry/Barack was an Indonesian Citizen because he was. Obama has lied about it because that’s what he has done in every single instance so far. What is so hard to understand about that?

  • Skiron

    Most of the framers were slave owners, or at least supported the idea. Since their judgment is apparently beyond reproach, should I be a proponent for slavery because the framers were?

  • A Random Democrat

    The amusing thing is, even if all of this crap were true, none of it even matters. He was born in Hawaii, he is eligible for the presidency. He could have changed his name and citizenship a dozen times, but he is still a natural born American citizen and therefore eligible for the presidency.

  • Yo

    No, if he wins that means that the election was rigged.

  • Grail Guardian

    And let’s not forget that the One is not so big on saluting our flag…

  • http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    Anyone can be a so called journalist for the Main Stream Media if the meet the Pucker up and kiss Barry’s ass test.

    Just like anyone can run for president if they qualify under the constitution.

    The question is do we hold our selves to a higher standard or do we accept the status propoganda quo?

    Are we willing to just let any twat become president or do we actually insist that they be held accountable for their character, their actions and their positions.

    Do we insist that we collectively vet our candidates and ensure that we place our country and our future in qualified hands?

    Do we have the right to demand that journalists stop playing Barry’s Pom Pom groupies and start actually doing their god damn jobs.

    Do we have the self respect to stand up to the bullies and the political sycophants who are calling us bitter and racist as a way to intimidate us to push through their agenda and say no its not about race its about character?

    Do we have the BALLS to put country before political party?

    Or we could just ask ourselves how our bowling is.

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Wrong.

  • J. Smith

    QUESTION: A bit off topic.

    Does Obama’s attorney registration in Ill. require information about past drug use, (which BO of course admits in his book)and if so, what was his response?

  • se

    You have neither your facts straight nor even know what a troll is.

    se

  • MEchelle Hates America!

    As #9 I’d add:

    Will you produce your birth hospital records, and if so, when? If not, why not?

  • kat in your hat

    Ya, I remember James Frey, he was put on Oprah’s book club. Oprah said James Frey was BRILLIANT and she endorsed him.

    OOPS!!

  • harvey

    bu bu but just because he is black doesn’t mean he is entitled to a damn thing

  • http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    each little molehile…eventually adds up to the anti-obama mountain that will stand in the way of your Muhammad in november.

    No Obama, Not Now, Not Ever!

    Barry aint the Messiah you thought you knew.

  • Annie Oakley

    Ha! From the comments, the One, Barry, Barack, Obama, Soetoro has gotten himself a new moniker:

    … the apparent nomination from what’s-his-name.

  • Grail Guardian

    Ahh, but he wouldn’t have to do that anymore if he were King, would he? Once martial law is declared, he doesn’t have to be accountable for anything anymore. The press has already shown they will be compliant, and the Obamites have shown that they can silence the opposition – and all this while we’re still a Republic. What will things be like when it is illegal to question him?

    The more I think about it, I may want to retract my earlier statement about not being scared of W. anymore. I’ll reserve judgment for now till I decide who is the bigger sock puppet…

  • Zeke

    Love it Bop!

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    No he wouldn’t have been subjected to questions like these, for the same reason that Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy would not be asked these questions, fictional characters can’t answer you.

  • MEchelle Hates America!

    Vacationing in Hawaii.

  • tzada

    Reportedly Obama and Osama were both in Pakistan around the same time in 1981. If Barry went there, and he claims to be an American citizen then he broke the law. If he went with an Indonesian passport then he was still a citizen of Indonesia at that time. You either did one or the other Barry S.

  • Mandelay

    This is a very cheap date. Anyone with a computer, a printer and some rubber cement can handle it. Post ‘em all over America, not just Denver. Get the “over 60″ voters who backed Hillary (and who might not be hanging out on blogs) to question the identity of the presumptive nominee. In every city, all over America. A 500- page packet of paper, a small jar of rubber cement, and some black ink in the printer should do it. No big money needed, Get some friends together, go out at night, and plaster the neighborhoods with “Who is Barry Soetoro?” in large type on one side of a sheet of paper. Live in a big city? Leave ‘em in your apartment building lobby or under doors like a delivery restaurant menu. On a supermarket bulletin board. Any place you can think of with high people traffic.

  • J. Smith

    My question about past drug use on the bar application is rhetorical – my main concern is BO’s (or whatever his name is) response to questions about drug use.

  • Duras

    Exactly right. If the Dems were to take the nomination away from Barry at this late date after all that’s happened, 90% of blacks & college students would stay home en masse on Election Day, dooming Hillary to certain defeat.

    You guys are stuck with Barry for 2008. So, vote for McCain this year and then for Hillary in 2012.

    “Country before party.”

  • http://liberalrapture.com scott in jupiter

    That and “you haven’t’ been listening.”

  • Zeke

    If Dean is John the Baptist, which of our lovely PUMA’s would care to audition for the role of Cheherazade?
    The job description requires that you must be able to hold 15 pounds of dead weight on a platter…

  • Duras

    Yeah, like the Clintons don’t have any money, right?

  • Grail Guardian

    Got it. We should start those reparition payments on Jan. 10, right racist?

    If I may borrow the phrase

    pfffffft!

  • Yo

    I don’t believe that article about his Selective Service registration because of the simple fact that the government would not just “give it out” even to a journalist. Barry himself would have to request. Betcha dollars to donuts that “supposed” Selective Service registration article is a fraud like everything else in his life.

  • Zeke

    Head up ass comment. go play in you sandbox.

  • harvey

    I don’t know, but I do know that some employers require a credit background check of employs before they will hire them. Seems as if legalities lawyers are involved with would require much closer scrutiny than a consruction worker who digs ditches.

  • eurogirl70

    And then we have Obama:

    Says that his formative years in Indonesia give him a leg up on his competition. Left Indonesia however after writing a note to gran and gramps to let him live with them. Claims he grew up poor but stepfather was Indonesian diplomat and mother worked for the U.S. Embassy in Jakarta. White Grandmother was the first female bank vice president in Hawaii.

    Went to school at a ritzy school in Hawaii (no friends to speak of. No one from back in the day to speak “highly” of him)

    Transferred to Columbia after (2) years at a small college. (No info on his undergraduate days. No testimonials from friends he has remained close to over the years)….still going by the name Barry.

    Next gets into Harvard Law….made first AA law review editor in the review’s history (also never writes anything for publication in the review during the whole time he is the editor…another school first!!) Again, where are the friends and close associates from his “formative” days in college and graduate school? (cue crickets)

    Next he goes on to become a “community organizer” but the only thing is is really good at is drawing attention to himself. Nothing of any real accomplishment. Gets offered a job to work for Tony Rezko but turns it down. Instead, goes to work for the very law firm that throws most of hard-working Chicago taxpayers money Rezko’s way. Very little gets done to alleviate the plight of the poor in Chicago while Rezko lines his pockets with monies meant for creating good quality low-income housing. Not to appear stingy, Rezko throws alot of that money Obama’s way!

    Alice Palmer, long-time Civil Rights activist thinks about running for Congress. Taps Obama on the shoulder to take her place in the Illinois legislature should she decide to go for it. She decides not to and Obama knocks her and (3) other AA candidates off the ballot in a signature petition drive. Obama wins with no competition.

    Obama goes up to Emil Jones and says: “Would you be my daddy?” Jones affords Obama the opportunity to pad his legislative record in (1) years time by climbing over every other AA Illinois state legislator to bring bills to the floor for votes. Spent much of his prior 5 years voting present and hitting the wrong buttons!

    Makes friends with men like Jerimaiah Wright and Rev. Pfelger during this time. Rev Wright who, while ministering to a couple seeking counseling, went on to “counsel” the wife without her husband present, and eventually made her his own wife. Will soon be living in a “whitey” neighborhood in a decidedly “non-Afro centric” English Tudor mansion while AA children are used for target practice while going to and from Chicago public schools. Rev Wright is very fond of pelvic hip thrusts and condemning Bill Clinton’s sexual indescretion while giving bear hugs to Kwame Kilpatrick who had to settle a wrongful firing after it was disclosed that he was having an affair with his “Chief of Staff” (no pun intended)

    Obama tells Maytag employees in Illinois that he will “go to bat for them” with the Crown family. Crown family confirms that no pleading took place expect for Obama pleading for additional campaign contributions.

    Greatest [false] claim to fame is that he was against the war in Iraq. Gave one speech in his very liberal state district in Chicago at an anti-war rally in 2002. Initally says that his speech was made during the height of his Senatorial campaign. In fact said speech was made, if it was in fact made considering that it had to be “re-recorded” 2 years later, Almost a year and a half before he even threw his hat into the race

    In 2004 says he isnt sure how he would have voted on the Iraq war resolution. This has now been settled. He would have voted FOR IT, just like he voted for FISA and retroactive immunity to the telecom industry. Just like he wanted to vote for John Roberts as Chief Justice but was told by his staff that such a vote might come back to bite him in the ass! Just like his “yeah” vote on FISA will this fall!

    This has been a “Profiles in Courage” moment. Claire McCaskill and Caroline Kennedy Sloschberg will be serving coffee and donuts in the back!

  • Yo

    I think Barry was adopted and that is why he is unable to show a Hawaii birth certificate. His original BC would have been sealed by the court and not even Barry himself could get to it. It is very difficult for an adoptee to get information on his original BC. I know because my hubby is adopted.

  • Martin

    It is suggested…

    It is suggested….

    It is suggested…

    Your “reporting” is not exactly up to snuff.
    Still waiting for the video, by the way. Two and a half months and counting…

  • C.S.

    The CONSTITUTION has a problem with a president and a commander in chief that is not native born for the simple reason that they experienced the problems with divided loyalties during the Revolutionary War when the Colonies were split among British loyalists known as Tories and the revolutionary group we call our Founding Fathers. They knew you can’t be loyal to two groups at once, so they put it in writing and ratified that no one except a native born citizen could be president. Thus, any Tory refusing to renounce their British loyalty could not be president.

    A president holding two or three citizenships in different countries is a big problem. For a better understanding of our government’s stand on dual citizenship, go to the immigration site that tells the problems a dual citizen may face; including having to serve in its’ military. Theoretically, if Obama holds dual citizenship in Kenya, and his cousin Odinga that he campaigned for tells him to spy upon the U. S. for Kenya, Obama would be obligated to do it.

  • Grail Guardian

    Sorry – he already didn’t answer, like, 8 questions!

  • se

    I don’t believe that article about his Selective Service registration because of the simple fact that the government would not just “give it out” even to a journalist.

    Well, Owens cited the name and title of the individual who provided the information so you can attempt to verify it if you’d like.

    Daniel Amon
    Public Affairs Specialist

    se

  • AF catfish

    Oh man I was so pissed reading that tripe from Joe Conason. I hope NoQuarter can publish that post.

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Like anyone gives a shit about your opinion. What’s your claim to fame? Shift manager at Burger King?

  • Skiron

    No, McCain’s homes were just acquired through his trophy wife’s beer business fortune.

  • Hope Floats

    “I’m gonna turn your face into a toilet seat.”

    LMAO.

    NoBama! When Obama unveiled his tax plan and promised gold would rain down on us, this is what he meant.

    But Chapelle was a brilliant comic writer. The big gallon of Poland Springs was hysterical.

  • roseeriter

    LOL! He ain’t gellin’..

  • Zeke

    A Troll, as defined here is basically a childish asshole who, by using Moral Equivalence and an undying adolescent response reflex, wastes most of our time with stupid, vapid, unproven, dipshitted, dumbassed, head-up-ass, unfounded, lie smeared bullshit.
    Since you and the rest of the flotsam in your circling bowl of self-love are completely unaware of the impending end of your mass wet dream, I will let slip the secret just this once. You are outnumbered. Percentages in polls don’t mean shit.
    You are massively outnumbered and will lose this election by the greatest margin of defeat in American History.
    You and the rest of your collection of Overdosed 60′s acid freaks and Nintendo nation candy ass pukes not only CAN kiss my ass but when the election is over, you WILL kiss my ass.
    Pansies

  • indy

    we need to publish this in a full page ad in USA Today asap!! Any suggestions or contacts welcome,

  • roseeriter

    Then John Edwards is Judas

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    So? She has a pre-nup. If she leaves, she takes it with her. She doesn’t have to stay, she’s with him because she wants to be. Michelle is with Barky so she can get her claws on the White House China.

  • Hope Floats

    A couple of things I learned in another comment thread on another blog far, far away…

    BREAKING POLL NEWS: McCain has now taken the lead in 4 crucial states according to the latest Rasmussen survey of likely voters, in: Nevada, Florida, Virginia, and most significantly (for the first time in 7 polls taken) in Colorado. If and when McCain wins those states and can get Ohio, he’s President.

    And did you know an anagram for Barack Obama is aka car bomb?

  • http://www.greensunshine.net jadwiga

    At this point Hillary has minimal chances to be elected nominee by the pledged delegates.

    We shouldn’t expect that to happen. It doesn’t need any new rigging. The Florida Clinton delegates were replaced by Obama supporters. The Supers will decide the election of the nominee anyway.

    If Hillary becomes the nominee by the process, the Obots will raise Hell, the DNC will do the same. Hillary’s chances to win the election will be minimal, and if she wins, she would have to face a hostile Congress.

    Our only hope to get Obama out is to get these documents published where tons of people can read it. If that happens and Obama can’t provide satisfactory explonation, the DNC has to drop his nomination.

    Any ideas how to do that?

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    ROFLOL!

    Madam Berry of the Straw you always crack me up! ANd that pouring piss out of a boot just killed me!

    Always look for your replies while scanning! (along with many others of course just wanted to say I appreciate your kind of snark)

    :-)

  • http://theindependentview.com Matthew Weaver

    I like this. May I repost it?

    Matthew

  • Annie Oakley

    I’d like to know more about the man who raised Barry. In 1965 there was a coup overthrowing the government. Mr. Soetoro may have been in Hawaii around that time, but he moved back to Indonesia with his family ’67 to’68. In 1968 Mobile began operating Arun gas fields owned by Indonesian state’s Pertamina. In 1971, Mobile dscovered natural gas north of Aceh and ZILS or Lhokesemawe Industrial Zone was created. Somewhere in this time frame, Mr. Soetoro went to work for Mobile Oil of Indonesia doing government relations.

    In 1972 or 1973, Barry and Mom left and went back to Hawaii. They lived in some interesting times in Indonesia. Barry’s father was hardly disconnected from it. I’d be curious to know more about this man who raised Barry in his formative years.

  • Donna Brazile

    Skeeeron!

    Oh me gawd, McCain’s a gold digga now.

    Stop the hate!

  • roseeriter

    Or wait wait wait.. whenever someone interupts him with a new question.

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    GINAAAA!

    W00T~!!

    U R another name I look for – THANKS! ;-)

  • Zeke

    Skiron,
    Nice to see that you’re still the douche everyone here has come to know and puke over.

  • imustprotest

    Well, what country does he have allegiance to? He doesn’t salute the flag, or place his hand over his heart during the National Anthem. His mentor pastor clearly doesn’t have allegiance to USA he actually DAMNS the USA….if not Indonesia then which country Iron? Kenya?

  • Martin

    Well, you don’t have to give a toss about my opinion. That’s the joy of free speech.

    That said, my claim to fame? A loving family, a great career, and not a whiff of french fry grease on me at the end of each working day.
    Ten years as a reporter. Fifteen years in Public Relation for a Fortune 500 company.

    All that aside, the question remains: Where’s the video?

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    The Clintons worked their asses off for everything they have. They weren’t born with silver spoons up their noses like Bush and Barky.

  • Zeke

    XYZ needs to have someone read the rulez to him…

  • eurogirl70

    sure Matt…with my compliments!

  • imustprotest

    You didn’t answer the question Iron….sheesh…what’s the SK stand for?

  • Hope Floats

    Strawberry put it best, but it bears repeating…

    Wrong.

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    sure! Just tell me who to get rid of? I’ve used up all my spaces available.

    I could DELETE SoreToes Barry

    he has zero votes thus far?

    what say you GINAW00T?

  • tzada

    That article said nothing at all. Proved nothing at all. I truly doubt the Government would anwer a question like that in an email, most especially on a Prez candidate.

    If an email was sent and an email was recieved I speculate this could have happened…. Some pro Obama person recieved it and cobbled together an answer. Can I prove this, no. But it makes more sense than the other “answer”. That article also tried to debunk as many “false rumors” ie “smears” against Barry as they could.

  • Zeke

    Marty!
    Who knew “Boys’ Life” had paid staff? Report this you ignorant f**k, you just admitted to pissing away any impartiality you ever thought you had. I know, journalism school’s pesky little class on ethics (that you must have paid some frosh to audit for you) means nothing any longer but, you stupid shit, YOU JUST TOLD US WHO YOU ARE and Boy’s Life is gonna get a call…..
    Go F**K Yourself

  • Donna Brazile

    Martini:

    So you’re the one to blame for the current ineptitude in the reporting by MSM “journalists.”

    It seems to me by watching those “Pros” in the MSM, all I have to say is that “a source close to the campaign said” or “a close friend of the candidate stated.”

    Why isn’t that enough for your little ole’ happy to be you self?

    Stop the hate!

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Well, we now know you are a shitty reporter. Larry has stated on every diary he posted that HE DOESN”T HAVE THE FRIGGIN’ VIDEO! The republicans do and are saving it until they are sure Barky has sewn up the nomination and Hillary can’t step in and take it. Larry has confirmed the existance of the tape with two independant sources who have actually watched the video. As a reporter you would know that is enough to run with a story.

  • Anne

    Is THAT on The One’s Ipod?

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    Head up ass comment. go play in you sandbox.

    Did you write that with your ass? That comment made no sense. If you’re going to debate me use some facts, don’t just use name calling. Prove me wrong.

  • roseeriter

    Oh I get the drill, Bots can go into the past 100 years to advocate for O-hole, but we can’t go back to O-hole’s youth some 40 yrs ago…gulp gulp, ok makes sense after I swallow the kool-aid.

  • Hope Floats

    I’d take a trophy wife over Queen Kong any day.

  • Postmaster

    who got peed-on? Better than being peed-off……………..just kiddin’

  • tzada

    She may be fearful of her life.

  • nancysabet

    There is an efforts to file a lawsuit by Mama E in Oklahoma. She has a radio show with Ed Hale in TX. Listen to last night show:

    http://www.plainsradio.com/

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    THAT was funny. Ugly older white people. Love it!

  • roseeriter

    hope they haven’t pre-printed all the ballots..

  • Zeke

    Rose,
    That is very unfair… remember when you’re riding a good buzz, ya gotta stay focussed on the question…
    … … … Uh, … … Um … …
    Who’s hungry?

  • http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    Claiming to be a reporter is akin to saying you were a lawyer after the OJ simpson trial…it doesn’t get you any respect, in fact, you might want to use another term to describe your work if you are a journalist now adays…

  • tzada

    Actually people at places like this are the new 527′s. This was pointed out by an OP-ED flunky at a MSM blog (ugly word) So lets use it, til we lose it. Nance and Dean are pushing for the “FAIRNESS Doctrine” which will effectivly shut down freedom of speech.

  • Postmaster

    Send them to Sean Hannity, he might just jump on them. He is the only one that doesn’t cow-tow to Obama.

  • james

    Obama was born in the United States to a mother who was a natural born citizen of the United States. Obama therefore was and remains a natural born citizen of the United States. Nothing that his mother, father, or step-father thought about doing, might have done, or actually did subsequent to Obama’s birth would have any bearing on his status. It doesn’t matter what other names he might have used. It doesn’t matter what nationalities his parents might have listed for him on various documents. The basic circumstances of his birth–born in Hawaii, to a mother who was a natural born citizen of the United States–settle the matter.

    Barack Hussein Obama registered with Selective Service at a post office in Hawaii. The effective registration date was September 4, 1980.

    His selective service registration number is 61-1125539-1.

    http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-did-obama-actually-register-for-selective-service/2/?email=1

  • Joe

    Mr. Barry Soetoro will take the Fifth Amendment to all your questions.

  • Martin

    For one, I never used an anonymous source.

    Two, I never claimed to be an unbiased observer of the current election.

    Three: Didn’t go to journalism school. I was a reporter. Did the exciting stuff, like local police news, city council, school board. That’s where most of the media work, anyway. Reporting the news. We didn’t do “opinion” pieces back then.

    Don’t blame me for todays’ “journalists”. Left and right, most are easily fooled, and spoon fed by anyone willing to do their work for them. That’s one of the reasons i got out of the business.

    But don’t let that stop you from discounting anything i might say. That’s your right.

    Can’t wait to see the video. Or, perhaps, an apology from the mysterious republicans who accidentally erase it just before the vote. Oops…

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    Did you know an anagram for John McCain is Jam Conch In. Do you think he’s into putting seashells in himself? An anagram for George Walker Bush is Herbage Glue Works. Is he a supporter of hemp-based glue? You sir, are ridiculous.

    Also, you are using one poll when most people know the best way to get real numbers is to average several polls together. Also, this year there is likely going to be better turn out by democrats and Obama supporting independents because they are more motivated than their conservative counterparts. The evangelicals that gave Bush the last two elections are not as excited about McCain and probably won’t show up to vote in the same kind of numbers. The polls mean nothing, especially this far out from the election.

  • Skiron

    Claws? You say her claws are going to come out? Jeez, you’re just like Oblahma with those sexist statements.

  • MEchelle Hates America!

    james –

    How do you know he was born in Hawaii? Which hospital?

  • Skiron

    “Queen Kong”? Nice racist term, that.

  • imustprotest

    Course if the polls had your guy way ahead you’d be shouting it from the rooftops.

  • Steve1

    I would like to know what did Senator Barry Soetoro do while he was in Pakistan? I want him to answer that question. Who did he meet with and did he take any side excursions to other countries while in Pakistan. What the hell was he doing in Pakistan? Did he make a visit to Mecca, visit any terrorist camps???Who did he speak with? I beleieve at that time period Pakistan was under Marial Law.

    Why doesn’t he release his original BC? What is he hiding? Where are his medical records? I guess-he will release these adter he is officially nominated as the Dem. candidate?

  • AX10

    Questioning Messiah now are we.
    Well, I am sure the DailyKooks will be around to hijack and shut this place down any second now.

  • Zeke

    Laura,
    There’s a historical part to this which influences the probability that the page is telling the truth about Barry’s Indonesian citizenship. In those days in Indonesia, there was a “president” spelled dictator named Sukarno. He was the father of that country’s independence but the similarity between George Washington and he end there.
    The country was corrupt but terribly nationalistic, hating most everything western, Christian or non muslim.
    Barry’s adopted dad was a smalltime official for that government and would have never risked his life over something like that. Take into account that if he was a good man, practicing his religion faithfully, that he could not tolerate a son being Christian.
    Odds dramatically favor Barry’s muslim belief.
    What gets scary right after that is knowing that is is encouraged that muslims lie to infidels if it will further the will of Allah. Thus, any statement by Barry as to his Christianity immediately becomes suspect because of that rule and who raised him.
    Just one more brick of BS. Barry Syndrome.

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    Actually the polls do have my guy ahead and I’m still saying they’re worthless. Kerry and Gore both lead Bush in early August and lost. Any political scientist could tell you the polls mean nothing this far out.

  • http://theindependentview.com Matthew Weaver

    Great idea! After a recent diatribe via email from Josh, this will likely get me banned, but what the heck.

    Okay, with some minor edits, it is now posted at TPM:

    TPM Post: Eight Questions for Obama

    FYI, for those with TPM accounts, I’d suggest going there and marking it recommended and posting your comments.

  • Anne

    Ha! as in Monty Python’s Holy Grail…I think I feel a song coming on…
    (Mr. Sandman…)
    (scat “bung, bung, bung, bung……….)
    Barry Soretoes, you think you’re a dream (bung, bung, bung, bung)
    You think you’re the cutest that you’ve ever seen (bung, bung, bung, bung)
    You have two lips like purple and clover (bung, bung, bung, bung)
    And you told John that his lonesome nights were over.
    Barry Soretoes, now Reille’s so alone
    Don’t have nobody to call her own
    But you won IA caucus like a dream
    Barry Soretoes, you make me scream.

    (scat “bung, bung, bung, bung.….)

    need help on verse 2 and 3.

  • imustprotest

    Hey SK Iron ….you haven’t told me what the sk stands for? You know, you remind me of sfhillary….sf hillary wouldn’t tell me what the sf stood for either.

  • MEchelle Hates America!

    Martin/Debbie Does Dumbass/SFHillary/doctorwang:

    The only thing remarkable about you is your inability to read and comprehend.

    Smells like McGovern wrote this on the last post:

    I can just see it on “Jeopardy”:

    I’ll take Presidential Aliases, Alex, for $400

    and I just love it!

    BTW: What hospital was Oblowme born in? Why won’t he release the hospital recs?

    How about Oblowme’s medical records…why just the summary?

    WHAT IS OBLOWME AKA SOEROTTEN HIDING?!

  • Zeke

    I’m not going to debate you…
    you bore the living shit out of me

    Now before you get a little woodie and decide to try to hurt my feelings, understand that I do not give a shit about you, your opinions, or the number of friends you had before your dog got depressed and killed himself…

  • http://theindependentview.com Matthew Weaver

    Let’s watch how fast the ants scramble around at TPM where I just posted this at gotalife’s recommendation:

    http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/08/eight-simple-questions-for-oba.php

    FYI, for those with TPM accounts, I’d suggest going there and marking it recommended and posting your comments.

  • imustprotest

    Yeah, Frey, the guy who wrote a fictious “autobiography” just like Barry Soerto/Barack Oblahblah/Dunham.

  • Jack

    How about

    Barry Hissy Soretoes.

  • tzada

    Add to that

    HOPE
    CHANGE
    BELEIVE IN
    OVER ARCHING
    WE ARE
    ONES
    WAITING
    RACIST

    MY FATHER WAS A SIMPPLE GOAT HERDER
    MY MOTHER GOT FOOD STAMPS

    I WASN’T THERE
    THAT IS NOT THE PERSON I KN….

  • http://theindependentview.com Matthew Weaver

    Regarding the Selective Service registration. This is incredibly suspicious. Why did a named representative divulge personal information? Elsewhere reporters have apparently been turned away. Beyond the post from August 12 on that blog, there is nothing to confirm that it is legit. Anyway, it did not come from Obama, nor was it released, if it was, by him. After all the discussion on the birth certificate, I’d suggest this is a false claim until proven otherwise. A simple Q&A with Obama would be perfect.

  • Skiron

    Actually I think Hillary was born with a silver spoon up her nose, as her father owned a successful textile business in Chicago.
    Obama definitely was not born into wealth. Take off the blinders and look it up.
    And I’m sure Bill worked real hard to earn those millions, getting hundreds of thousands of dollars per speech like he does. He puts coal miners in Pennsylvania to shame, working his ass off like that.

  • Anne

    2nd verse?

    (scat “bung, bung, bung, bung.….)

    Barry Soretoes, you think you’re a dream
    You think you’re the smartest that you’ve ever seen
    Give Hill some Hell and I’m am a quitter
    Then in November you will be quite bitter.
    Barry Soretoes, you’ll be so alone
    Don’t have a country to call your own
    Please turn down your magic beam
    Barry Soretoes, you will have ended your dream.

  • athy

    Jadwiga,
    Link this article on to other blog sites and ask the readers to do the following:People want to help but dont know how to. We needto guide the citizen journalists and bloggers so they can notify others-especially indy journalists. Here is suggested message to post on other blogs (If anyone has other ideas PLEASE POST HERE…)

    Suggested message:

    http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/15/for-barack-obama-eight-questions/#more-4195

    “Fellow bloggers, I hope I am not off topic but I just read a very disturbing but well sourced and documented article (see link).

    Please review the article and confirm or refute the information it contains. Please include where you got the information that leads you to come to this conclusion-include link if possible. If this article is correct (and I have no reason to dispute facts) then we MUST forward this to delegates, US voters, main stream media and-MOST IMPORTANTLY- independent journalists and citizen journalists so that they can further investigate and pass on the message .

    If we do not act upon this information in some manner, then we deserve what we will get in the 2008 presidential election.

    Please act upon this. Confirm or refute, and pass on this blog & link.”

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    You’re not going to debate me because you know you can’t win, and the inferiority complex you’re suffering from knowing I’m smarter than you has lead you to attempt to insult me. I really feel sorry for people like you, unwilling to open your eyes and look at the real world. You stay in your little conservative christian bubble that protects you from fact and reason. Open your eyes and your mind, free yourself from the mind control.

  • Diana

    Who is starting the lawsuit on this? To question his adoption and if he was in fact adopted as this school paper indicates his Indonesian citizenship? If he was adopted in Indonesia his US citizenship is gone. He then became a citizen of that country and they do not allow for a dual citizenship. There are plenty of suits filed on McCain. Someone needs to begin the process on this. We can post about it all day, send links to our friends. But now is the time for action. ;) We’re getting close here, cutting it down to the wire. These questions need to be brought to a public forum and I don’t think the MSM is going to go anywhere with it. We’ve seen their idea of investigative reporting…

  • Martin

    Ah, the sweet smell of intellectual discourse.

    And here, I thought debate was dead in this country…

  • james

    Beats me. He mentions somewhere he was born in a hospital, but for all I know he was born at home or in the backseat of a taxi. I’ve never really believed he was born in a manger, so I wouldn’t be disillusioned to learn that wasn’t so.

    The point being, if the State of Hawaii confirms he was born in Hawaii, that’s good enough for me.

    Obama would have had to have presented his birth certificate to get a U.S. Passport, right?

  • imustprotest

    Debates are dead if they involve…or don’t involve Barry. Barry is skeeaird of debates.

  • tzada

    Indonesia was a very regimated country. Barry’s step father was a member of the Government. The law stated that only citizens could attend the schools.Would he have skirted the law? Possibly, but why should he take that risk? Once upon a time I had all the links to the articles I read, but don’t have the time to look them up. All this school stuff was on Atlas Shrugs months ago. If you want to visit that site you may find it.

  • MEchelle Hates America!

    Gee Steve1 –

    Doesn’t everybody you know vacation in Pakistan?

    I fondly recall those Spring Break choices…

    The mountains for skiing or

    the beaches for swimming or

    Pakistan for jihad training.

    As a flag saluting lapel wearing American I opted for skiing and swimming, but to each his own.

    Odd that in the six months since running for POTUS – Oblowme is doing lots of beach vacationing.

    Why not Pakistan now? Is his training complete?

  • se

    Yeah? When did Obama file a lawsuit against the Selective Service System? News to me.

    Oh, and by the way, he’s in Illinois now, supposedly to “scrub” the information on his ARDC registration.

    se

  • athy

    Mechelle,
    don’t forget the following outstanding info too that Sen Obama needs to provide to the voters:

    1. Columbia College records (including admissions and financial aid/scholarship info if applicable)
    2. Columbia Thesis paper
    3. Certification of Live Birth (COLB)
    4. Harvard College records(including admissions and financial aid/scholarship info if applicable)
    5. Illinois State Senate records
    6. Illinois State Senate schedule
    7. Law practice client list and billing records/summary
    8. Locations of all step-siblings and step-mothers
    9. Occidental College records (including admissions and financial aid/scholarship info if applicable)
    10. Parent’s Marriage Certificate
    11. Record of baptism
    12. University of Chicago scholarly articles
    13. Campaign donor analysis (specific formats) requested by 7 major watchdog groups

  • se

    That article also tried to debunk as many “false rumors” ie “smears” against Barry as they could.

    Well, if they’re false, then why shouldn’t they be debunked?

    se

  • athy

    JJ
    does the public have access to the records indicating that Sen Obama registered for the draft?
    Who(name/title) in selective services confirmed this?
    On what basis did he/she confirm?

  • imustprotest

    Se do you not understand the use of “quotation marks?”

  • AX10

    Which is why I will not support the party as a whole. I hear that Dino Rossi is about to take
    out that loser Gregoire in Washington.

  • Diana

    Yeah and Soros is then the Gate Keeper destined to walk the Earth till the return of Christ. That’s why he’s trying to destroy us all. Come to think of it Soros does look like a Roman soldier that could have been the one that delivered the final stab to Christ…Hmmm. Maybe Obama is the Anti-Christ! Oh wait that’s esoteric text on it from the Apocrypha.(OK I was being facetious. Personally I think Obama is too dumb to be the Anti-Christ he gets caught in everything he does and says. He’s just not a very good liar. EX: Took us less than a couple months of listening to him to figure out if he says “I have always/I have consistently” to know the next sentence to follow would be a lie.)

  • Anne

    OK, here’s a shot at the 3rd and last verse…

    Barry Soretoes (male voice: “Yesss?) tell us your scheme
    Are you a plant with a Manchurian theme?
    Do you have the dark soul of Zbigniew Brezenski
    And antigonism like Saul Alinksy?
    Barry Soretoes, leave us alone (leave us alone)
    Would be so peachy if you would just go home
    So please turn off your magic drones
    Barry Soretoes, leave us, please, please, please
    Barry Soretoes, leave us alone.

    (scat “bung, bung, bung, bung….)

  • Skiron

    I just love the various names you all come up with for Obama. Bobo, Oblowme, O-hole, etc.
    But if someone does that to Hillary, not half as egregious…whoa, Katie bar the door, because there’s a tsunami of female indignation on its way.

  • Skiron

    It doesn’t stand for anything…skiron is the Greek name for the northwest wind.

  • imustprotest

    Speaking of names iron….what does the sk stand for?

  • JML

    Thanks Cecile. I hadn’t been called a racist yet today and was starting to get off-kilter from the change in routine.

  • Amazonia

    Do we realize that if we allow a DUAL CITIZENSHIP person be elected POTUS (going against Article II of the Constitution), in the future even a person like REZKO (with enough money to
    pay up to delegates campaigns, and an unprincipled oil money owned MSM to back him up)could run and be elected POTUS? Any foreign born naturalized citizen could run for President due to the antecedent established by BO’s case.
    Remember, being “natural born” to be President does not refer necessarily
    to the geographical place of birth (as in the case of our military personnel’s children born abroad), but to the UNDIVIDED ALLEGIANCE and LOYALTY
    to the USA (Article II of the Constitution). That means NO DUAL CITIZENSHIP EVER ALLOWED.

    BO knows he doesn’t qualify for POTUS under Article II, therefore all this mysteries about his Original Birth Certificate and other documents.
    So he considers himself to be a “citizen of the world”? Good for him. Now he can go work with Mother Theresa’s mission company or with the Red Cross in Sudan.
    I’ll take Hillary Clinton or John McCain for President of the United States of America.

  • james

    Well, suppose Obama provided an original birth certificate and found an old wallet containing his selective service card. How would we know with absolute certainty that those documents actually pretain to the person who’s running for president?

    This unconsidered uncertaintly probably applies to about 90% of the U.S. population. What is it that establishes an absolutely unquestionable connection between a collection of documents and the person who claims a relationship with them?

    Did Obama get federally guaranteed student loans to attend college? I don’t know. If he did, he’d have had to have registered with Selective Service to have qualified.

    People are trying so hard to get something on this guy. Maybe he has unpaid parking tickets. Maybe he still has a book after all these years that he never returned to the Waikiki-Kapahulu Public Library. Hey, maybe it’s a public library copy of the Koran!

  • MEchelle Hates America!

    Great list athy!

    Where’s that boxing kitty to make Oblowme put up or shut up now?!!

    Oblowme – the dangerous mystery candidate ’08!

  • wry

    Admit it, you were thinking about that sexy long legged Mack Daddy!

  • se

    A Troll, as defined here is basically a childish asshole who, by using Moral Equivalence and an undying adolescent response reflex, wastes most of our time with stupid, vapid, unproven, dipshitted, dumbassed, head-up-ass, unfounded, lie smeared bullshit.

    Oh! I gotcha now. They were talking about TexasDarlin. My mistake.

    Since you and the rest of the flotsam in your circling bowl of self-love are completely unaware of the impending end of your mass wet dream, I will let slip the secret just this once. You are outnumbered. Percentages in polls don’t mean shit.
    You are massively outnumbered and will lose this election by the greatest margin of defeat in American History.
    You and the rest of your collection of Overdosed 60’s acid freaks and Nintendo nation candy ass pukes not only CAN kiss my ass but when the election is over, you WILL kiss my ass.
    Pansies

    Er, what were you just saying about adolescent?

    se

  • imustprotest

    Se if what you say is true, then why are you so hostile?

  • imustprotest

    Why are you so angry?

  • LIONCUB

    MARTIN IS PROBABLY TOMMY CHRISTOPHER ON AOL P.M. SOUNDS LIKE THE SAME KIND OF IDIOT. T.C. HAS A PIECE ON PUMA BASHING, GOD I CANT STAND THAT ASS.

  • http://theindependentview.com Matthew Weaver

    I just want to add a clarification to my post. In referencing TexasDarlin and noting his/her anonymity, I meant no disrespect, nor did I dispute what they have written. (For the record, I have also written comments in the past at TexasDarlin site directly.) My point is simply that I personally question anonymous posts and blogs because they lack a name and face behind them. As we see too much of on the Internet today anybody can post just about anything without the slightest chance of being held accountable. I recognize that, as Susan writes here and as both Larry and her have written previously, they have had contact with TexasDarlin and are comfortable with trusting TexasDarlin is legit. Fine. I was not in anyway suggesting this was in error and, again, no disrepect intended.

    Matthew Weaver

  • beebop

    When Barry Soretoes calls, tell him we said “high.”

  • se

    I understand the use of quotation marks just fine, and I also understand just fine what you intended to imply by your use of them.

    Now answer my question. Should false rumors not be debunked?

    se

  • imustprotest

    hmmmk….the race card, now that’s a new one…NOT! lol calm down would ya!

  • JML

    Bill and Hillary both earned their own money as adults, just to clarify.

    Neither were born with a silver anything.

    Hillary’s site tells the story of her dad turning the heat off at night to save money. Bill was raised by a single mother.

    So punk off.

  • se

    Who(name/title) in selective services confirmed this?

    Daniel Amon
    Public Affairs Specialist

    On what basis did he/she confirm?

    Mr. Owens,

    Barack Hussein Obama registered at a post office in Hawaii. The effective registration date was September 4, 1980.

    His registration number is 61-1125539-1.

    se

  • http://nativeamericansagainstobama.wordpress.com/ timepasssages
  • ming the merciless

    What about McCain’s one-time dual citizenship?

    And McCain was actually born outside of the United States, in the Canal Zone, an insular territory outside the jurisdiction of U.S. Constitutional Law. Because he was born before 1937, he’s not even a legally defined natural born citizen.

  • AnyoneButClinton

    Thank you Matt. Your “journalistic” “integrity” “is” “secure.”
    We need 1000 more sites like NoQuarter so we can expose the truth behind…..

    PUMA! GO PUMA! YAY! PUMA!

  • imustprotest

    If they are indeed false. Obama calls any kind of legitimate questioning of him or his “record” (you do understand my use of quotes here right) as “smears”….classic Narcissitic response.

  • Observer

    Me too!

  • se

    Se if what you say is true, then why are you so hostile?

    Er, I’m hostile?

    Someone falsely claims that I am posting under names that I have never posted under and calls me a troll and I’m being hostile for saying they don’t have their facts straight and that they don’t know what a troll is?

    And then Zeke follows up with his screed and I’m the one who’s hostile?

    I’m afraid you’re going to have to explain that one to me.

    se

  • imustprotest

    Well se, I agree with Zeke that you are a troll but you’re right, you are not being overtly hostile. I sense a more passive agressiveness from you, probably why you like Oblahma so much he has the same issues.

  • se

    If they are indeed false.

    Ok, so you have no problem debunking false claims, correct?

    Obama calls any kind of legitimate questioning of him or his “record” (you do understand my use of quotes here right) as “smears”….classic Narcissitic response.

    Um, what’s Obama have to do with anything? We were talking about a post by Bob Owens over on his blog.

    se

  • JML

    Coupla points, frendy.

    No one has won the nomination yet. You’re ahead of yourself. Turn off the MSNBC for a minute and stop to think.

    My personal objection to Barky has nothing to do with the fact that he’s black half-black.

    My objections are that he’s inexperienced, flip-flops with the wind, is a liar and a fraud, has several associations with anti-American groups and individuals, has practiced questionable techniques in this and in previous elections, and barely hides his disdain for working class folks, not to mention women.

    When using my touch-screen in November, these are not the characteristics I’ll be looking for in a president.

    Country before party. NoBama. Ever.

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    BOO-HOO!

  • oldlawyer

    Yeah, but everyone male has to register, even dual national, naturalized citizens, even illegal aliens, according to the USPS booklet. Compliance is not proof of citizenship. This alone does NOT qualify Barky to be sworn in as POTUS.

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Playing the race card? Kiss my black behind?

  • Hope

    I hope you are right, Ginaswo,

    Hillary Clinton is the best possible leader for this great nation. But given everything we’ve seen from the DNC and the aggressive nature with which Obama’s campaign and supporters have attacked, it seems very unlikely they have not staged the entire process.
    Hillary undoubtedly figures it would not be wise to blow up the party and expect to win this Fall. The party is already divided and will remain so until the Repubs give reason for unity once again(no Dem can glue Humpty Dumpty back together again).
    IF in fact a political miracle does not take place the best use of time is working to ensure there will not be an Obama presidency by supporting his opponent.

  • beebop

    Says that his formative years in Indonesia give him a leg up on his competition.

    Who thought that it was just to take a leak on the Constitution?

  • imustprotest

    uhhh…wasn’t the post about Barry? Doesn’t Barry have a fight the “smears” website? Se you really parse words in your arguments that mislead and misconstrue the original intent. Hence the correct label for you as a troll.

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Just because Billary, oh I’m sorry, Hillary is a white, woman (and because her husband was president does not make her qualified) does not mean she deserves a DAMN thing!

  • ming the merciless

    There’s a concept. The really successful right-wing smear sites could franchise.

    Don’t kid yourself for a minute into believing that the sites you’re thinking of are in the truth telling business. They’re in the business of creating and propagating lies.

    In the process, they’ve alligned themselves with a morally bankrupt republican party that has no choice but to lie because the truth will no longer allow them to be elected. They lie about what they’ve done, and they lied so they could do it in the first place. They lie about what they intend to do, and lie about what the consequences will be. And they lie about their opponent and the choices he’s actually offering, because what they have to offer simply doesn’t measure up.

    There’s a shot of truth for you. Take it or leave it.

  • imustprotest

    Nobody here (except trolls like you) have ever said that her race and her husband’s work qualified her. Hillary has many, many qualifications and accomplishments unlike Barry the empty suit.

  • http://democratsforrealchange.info Dr. bobbi Anne White

    this youtube actually dispels any question of the Indonesian school records being a forgery. You will see an investigative journalist actually withthe records.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRnvX7efXFw

  • tzada

    Or one for each face?

  • less than gracious HRC supporter

    Things must be looking REALLY bad for The One today. Heavy, frantic, oh-so-charming (snark) Obot traffic today. Or are the Sobots now?

    If having the roll call vote for HRC is just a symbolic vote, I have to wonder why the Sobots seem so pathetic and desperate today?

    PUMA.

    Rise Hillary Rise!

  • se

    Well se, I agree with Zeke that you are a troll but you’re right, you are not being overtly hostile.

    I’m a troll simply because I answer people’s questions and post my own opinions?

    I’m sorry, but it seems that “troll” is being used here as nothing more than an ad hominem attack.

    Don’t agree with something someone says? Don’t act like a rational adult and explain why you disagree with them. Just dismiss them by calling them a “troll” or other personal insults.

    Is that really how you believe rational, adult human beings should engage with each other?

    I sense a more passive agressiveness from you, probably why you like Oblahma so much he has the same issues.

    Who says I like Obama? Nothing I’ve said has had anything specifically to do with Obama. What I have said I would have said regardless of who it was about.

    This just seems to be another form of ad hominem. If you’re not calling people trolls, you’re calling them Obama lovers, or Obamabots, or what have you.

    What’s more adolescent than not being able to engage in anything more than personal attacks?

    se

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Troll? What the hell do you look like sweetie? Name one damn accomplishment. Please!

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Maybe it’s because I’m black. I am a such an ungrateful negro!

  • tzada

    Don’t you mean an Arab has stolen won the Democratic Partys nomination?

    Just sign me a very bitter white who once voted for the fruad! Just a typical uppity white woman

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Do you own a white hood?

  • se

    uhhh…wasn’t the post about Barry?

    The post, in the context of what we’re discussing here, was about questions raised by others regarding Obama’s Selective Service registration, and Owens’ looking to answer those questions.

    Doesn’t Barry have a fight the “smears” website?

    Yes. But we weren’t talking about Obama’s Fight The Smears website. We have been talking about Owens’ claim to have answered the question raised by others regarding Obama’s Selective Service registration.

    Se you really parse words in your arguments that mislead and misconstrue the original intent.

    I’m sorry, but it seems to be you who keeps wanting to stray away from the context of this thread.

    se

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    This is sad, sad, sad.

  • tzada

    Agreed

  • roseeriter

    When you bots can tell us who Barry Soeroto is and validate his background we’d be happy to.

    Do YOU know who Obama is?

  • ming the merciless

    So you’re looking for other characteristics?

    Characteristics exhibited by a cranky old coot with incipient Sundowner syndrome and anger management issues, who has so damn much money the economic woes of mainstream America are only abstraction to him?

    I give you John McCain:

    A guy with so many lobbyist and special interest connections that you need a wallchart to keep track of them.

    A guy who’s top economic advisor was the man who brought us the Enron loophole and the sub-prime mortgage disaster.

    A guy who’s top foreign policy advisor is a paid lobbyist for the Republic of Georgia, a board member of Project for a New American Century, and president of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq.

    Is that the sort of guy you have in mind?

    We might as well keep George W. Bush.

  • J. Smith

    Republicans are liars? You don’t say!

    Nonetheless, Republicans will use the truth to destroy a candidate as well as a lie. I will gladly see my enemy (Republicans) bring an end to the Obama scourge.

    This is about (to me and many like me) the removal of the leftist liberals from the Dem Party – who are every bit as vicious and insane as the far-right. People who have used LIES and SLANDER against Hillary and Bill Clinton to attain their ends. And four years of the centrist McCain with a Democratic Congress is a relatively small price to pay for the restoration of the Democratic Party.

    NeverObama

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    That essay deserves an A+.

  • no waffles aka drkate

    so you’re agnry as a black person, I get it.
    What are you angry about? That we don’t like Obama because he is not qualified? Or do you think we don’t like him because of his skin color? Remember MLK–

    I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

    This is not about black or white, or anyone’s “turn”. This is about the CONTENT OF THEIR CHARACTER, not the color of their skin.

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    What the hell do you mean? Do I know Obama? Do you know Hillary? I didn’t think so.

  • roseeriter

    Gosh- you are as angry as Michelle.

    When one of you bots can answer all the questions in your blind defense of your messiah maybe then we’ll move on:

    Considering that much in Corsi’s book comes from Obama’s books says a lot. Who’s really telling lies, Corsi or Obama? And considering that Obama is very vague as to presenting validated documents such as his real birth certificate. Is he also a citizen of Indoneseia. When did he change his name from Barry Soeroto to Barack Obama and why that info is not on his lawyer state bar registration. Is he still practicing his Muslim faith as Rev Wright’s church accepts muslims in the church. So many unanswered questions. Not to mention the fraud involved and being investigated in many of the caucus states during the primary where thuggery, misogyny and sexist and racist cards were all played by the Obama campaign. So many unanswered questions. Could it be that Obama voted for Fisa because GOOGLE is one of his big supporters? Obamabots don’t know the truth either and are foolishly voting on face value and very little Vetting.

  • imustprotest

    OMG you only require ONE accomplishment…such low standards, but hey, it figures you support an empty suit…okay, well, hard to know where to start there’s so many I would actually need a full diary or two to write them up and this thread isn’t about Hillary anyway its about questions (unanswered of course) for Barry….okay just a snipet since you called me sweetie and all….

    Since becoming a senator, Rodham Clinton has worked to strengthen New York’s economy and homeland security, while supporting a return to fiscal responsibility. She worked to bring economic relief to victims of the September 11, 2001, terrorist attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. The senator introduced legislation to provide funding for threat-based homeland security to ensure adequate resources for first responders, and such high-target communities as New York City.

    She serves on various senatorial committees, including the Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee; Environment and Public Works Committee; Special Committee on Aging; and in 2004 was the only senator on the Transformation Advisory Group to the Joint Forces Command. She has visited troops in Iraq, Afghanistan and other locations, to learn about the challenges American combat forces face. She also has worked for prescription-drug safety for children, to lower the cost of prescription drugs, and to prevent contamination of the American food supply by bioterrorism. She co-sponsored legislation to extend tax credits in regions that contain designated Renewal Communities, as well as introduced legislation to increase access to broadband technology in rural areas.

  • EllenD

    I HATE “NOTION!!!!!”

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    What the hell do you mean? Do I know Obama? Do you know Hillary? I didn’t think so. Also, I found it funny how you have the nerve to call me a “bot,”and yet people like you still think that Hillary can steal the nod. But I’m obsessed?

  • imustprotest

    There’s a LOT more sweetie but I don’t want to be a blog-hog.

  • roseeriter

    Sweetie you need to go home now. You will never change our minds so go to evil orange or wherever the good little phony democrats hang out now.

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    The hell? Get a damn life!

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Okay sweetie, tell me this. Why in the hell is she more qualified?

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    Guffaw!!!!!

    That was witty!!!!

  • se

    Beyond the post from August 12 on that blog, there is nothing to confirm that it is legit. Anyway, it did not come from Obama, nor was it released, if it was, by him. After all the discussion on the birth certificate, I’d suggest this is a false claim until proven otherwise.

    Owens identified his source. Make a phone call or two and see if you can verify it.

    Daniel Amon
    Public Affairs Specialist

    se

  • HillGirl

    U, of course, mean the guy with the bratty behavior? ~ Jackson, Rangel, Sharpton Convention snubbed ~ vindictive

  • roseeriter

    Sweetie we’re angry at the fraud the thuggery the lies the wingnuts on the left in the democratic party acted towards Hillary and her supporters and the HYPOCRISY at how you all also complained about the fraud and lies of The Bush election. Both parties are just as corrupt and Obama is a puppet who is exploiting most of the AAs in the party just to get elected. You obviously do not live in Illinois.

    Country loyalty before SHEEPLE Party Loyalty.

    Obama is NOT Qualified to be POTUS. That is our concern. What is yours?

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Didn’t you know? All us black womens is angry and loud. I knows wes should shut ours moufs and knows I’se place.

  • imustprotest

    whoa….you are angry. Settle down, what’s the worry? Your guy has this all gamed out now, it’ll be okay….he’s gonna lose the GE of course but that’s a couple of months away plenty of time to get used to the idea…and then come Nov 5th it’ll be your turn to get over it.

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Hey dumb a@! If you were a real Democrat, you would fall in line!

  • less than gracious HRC supporter

    Bwahahahaha.

    What part of PUMA don’t you understand?

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Okay fine. Vote for McSame. You reap what you sow.

  • roseeriter

    Obama equals Bush 3- Incompetent, no experience, Corporate backers supported by left wingnuts, LIES and an empty suit.

    Without his hopey changet bullshit he has nothing to offer the majority of Americans as POTUS.

  • Patti

    Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy would not be asked these questions, fictional characters can’t answer you.

    Hmmm maybe thats why Obama wont answer questions.

  • roseeriter

    FALL IN LINE??? Sorry I am not a ROBOT idiot cult member. That’s what you bots act like members of Jim Jones koolaid drinkers.

    Only SHEEPLE lock step and sign loyalty oaths. So sad. I feel really sorry for you.

    And this is SO not about race.

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Oh, I’m sorry, I did not want to blow your mind sweetie. Go ahead, name more. Those are not real accomplishments btw.

  • BlokeHead

    Why should I care whether or not he held citizenship in another country forty years ago?

  • less than gracious HRC supporter

    Poor desperate and pathetic Sobot.

    rrrrrrrrroooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrr!!!!!

    PUMA.

    Rise Hillary Rise!

  • J. Smith

    Indeed, Barry is having trouble in the polls — Additionally, the Obots are well aware that The One looks foolish and weak alongside Hillary Clinton; and so the symbolic vote has them shaking.

    I expect their writhing and nastiness to increase.

  • roseeriter

    I’m voting 3rd party.

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Oh and by the way Barack has more legislative experience than miss hillary.

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Thank You. These people are freaking insane, sad, and desperate as hell!

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    I have one word: CRAZY!

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Don’t pity me honey. I don’t pity you!

  • imustprotest

    First, why are you talking about averaging polls when you then say polls don’t matter?? Rasmussen is a conservative poll so it would be a good poll to demonstrate Obos inability to attract red states and the fact that he hasn’t been able to close the deal in what should be a BIG Democratic year.

  • imustprotest

    But you are pathetic.

  • ming the merciless

    McCain is a Centrist? Where do people get this peculiar notion? With respect to foreign policy, national security, and war, you don’t get much farther to the right than John McCain.

    McCain’s lifetime conservative voting rating is among the highest in the Senate. And that’s in the opinion of fellow conservatives. Want an easily understandable basis for comparison? Hillary Clinton’s lifetime conservative voting rating is 9. John McCain’s score is 82.3 on the same scale. The conservative gold standard would be 100. Nobody is that conservative.

    McCain a Centrist? Only in the campaign ads and pitches to the American middle. His lifetime voting record tells an entirely different tale. Look at what the American Conservative Union has to say:

    http://www.acuratings.org/2006senate.htm#descriptions

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Why am I pathetic? You do not me.

  • HillGirl

    This argument does not sway PUMAs, because we understand the facts . The choice is not between Obama and McCain. It’s between Obama and Hillary, and who is most likely to beat McCain in November.
    If you look at Obama’s performance against McCain objectively, the Senator from Illinois is tanking in the polls. In states where he had a double-digit lead, he’s hemorrhaging support. In swing states, McCain is starting to edge him out. In a Democratic year, this lack of enthusiasm is unheard of.”

  • tzada

    Actually he DID have unpaid parking tickets, lots of them. Just before he filed he went to Mass and paid them. It’s easy to find out unless that information has been scrubbed. It being Mass it probably has been.

  • imustprotest

    You are the desperate one…it shows in your screen name.

  • imustprotest

    You are the desperate one…it shows in your screen name.

  • less than gracious HRC supporter

    Pathetic SObot follower. Keep following your master’s orders and drinking that Cult-aide!

    PUMA.

    Rise Hillary Rise!

  • simanov

    Every time you fool type a word here, you convert another undecided the McCain side. Keep up the good work.

  • simanov

    Every time you fool type a word here, you convert another undecided to the McCain side. Keep up the good work.

  • Patti

    My son had his name legally changed by me at 2.5 years old. I had to file the new birth certificate with the state of NY. The only record of his original bc is in Texas. If people didnt know what his name was then, they cant get it.

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    SHE CANNOT GET THE NOD! WTH?!!!

  • MEchelle Hates America!

    Comment by You people need to get over it!!!! | 2008-08-15 15:23:49

    Hey dumb a@! If you were a real Democrat, you would fall in line!

    Precisely why I’m no longer a real Democrat.

    Just an Independent voter who believes in Democracy.

    No longer bound to the shame that has become the DNC.

    Goosesteppers for Oblowme ’08!

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Okay “WHITEY” because that’s how us coloreds talk. I’ll shut the hell up and stay in my place!

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    What do you mean a conservative poll? A poll should not have a bias, if a poll has a bias it is garbage.

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    If you are undecided by now, you are a moron. Thank you. That is all.

  • simanov

    How long have you been off the medication?

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    “Rise Hillary Rise” And yet I’m a follower? Okay.

  • Patti

    She can show that she voted for BO, she is a stuanch little Democrat. But she can vote for whomever she pleases in Novemeber. NY still has the old style private voting booths.

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    That’s all you got, jackass!

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    Yes, you figured it out! Barack Obama is imaginary! Are you people serious?

  • less than gracious HRC supporter

    If that were true, then why would your desperate pathetic self be here trying so hard to convince everyone?

    You’re wasting your time. There are no votes for Soetero here.

    PUMA.

    Rise Hillary Rise.

  • imustprotest

    I’m worried about this troll….losing it. Get a grip man, seriously.

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Okay you are so above it all aren’t you. So is that why your name is “MEchelle Hates America!” Alright now.

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    I’m sorry. That was completely uncalled for. That was an insult to all jacksasses.

  • Patti

    Damn we’ve only heard that 6 million 4 hundred and 52 times. Once more wont hurt.

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    I’d say YOU need to get over THAT, eh?
    Your candidate sure manages to use his ancestry to his advantage…perhaps you should “get with the program” and do like he did, huh?

    You do know that if he wins, he’s fucked every discrimination argument well and truly for good and forever, don’t you? It doesn’t matter that the issues won’t be ameliorated AT ALL, the disadvantages will still exist, the poverty will still be more prevalent amongst the community, the problems–from health care to education to employment opportunities–will NOT be resolved, he’ll be the poster child for the “Shut the fuck up, if you can be President, you have no complaints” argument.

    And that’s terribly ironic, since he may be African, and he may be American, but he’s not “African American.” He can’t point to the tradition of coming out of slavery. He can’t talk about the indignities suffered by great great grandparents, great grandparents, grandparents, and so on. He never heard it growing up, he cannot relate to it, and he does NOT GET IT. He didn’t live on the “mean streets” of Honolulu, or attend a run-down school with broken windows and teachers who pack heat.

    This guy doesn’t “relate” to YOU, either (I’m quite generously assuming for the purposes of this rebuttal that you aren’t a great big honking liar about your ethnicity, even though I have my personal doubts). He doesn’t even think too much of you. He thinks you’re shiftless and irresponsible–he gave a speech about it recently. It’s no accident that all his best pals are palefaces like William Ayers and Tony Rezko…he’s a “First I look at the purse” kind of guy. And he doesn’t terribly want to hang around with needy types like yourself.

    That’s what you ought to be angry about–his painting you with his broad brush. His pandering to the community in Chicago while living in luxury as far the fuck away from them as he could manage. The guy’s a bullshitter.

    But then, if you love him so much, why are you here? Why aren’t you out helping your hero, instead of wasting your time here? This isn’t a “Feel the love, Drink the Koolaid” site–just in case you’re confused and took a wrong turn. The people here are not advocates for, or fans of, Obama. You waste your time trying to defend him–all you are is a fish in the NQ barrel. Good for a bit of “Point and Laugh” if you will. You will never change a single mind here–because our opposition to Obama isn’t race-based, even though so many want to make that lame-ass accusation. Our opposition is RESUME-based. His resume SUCKS…from experience to execution, the guy’s a lying bullshitter not ready for prime time.

    If he were a white guy with the very same resume–if you want to play a race card–he’d have been eliminated from the contest in the early stages of the primary. They’d have called his campaign “The Audacity of Stupidity,” made his lack of experience and his stupid gaffes a centerpiece of their critiques of him, and sent that naive and nervy cracker packing in the early days. That’s the truth, and anyone who looks honestly at his qualifications knows it. However, the racial third rail prevents anyone from mentioning the self-evident truth that the Emperor is shy a few garments, so way too many fools pretend the fellow is prepared, when he plainly isn’t.

  • kat in your hat

    Aw, what are the Obots so upset about it? ALWAYS a good thing when THEY are upset.

    Hmm, I guess they recognize some of today’s articles on Obama’s ACORN, and the AP photo on Obama being registered as an Islamic Indonesian citizen kinda bothers the Obots.

    :(

  • less than gracious HRC supporter

    No one here is undecided. Every one here has decided to NOT vote for your candidate. We are dedicated to ensuring that your candidate is defeated, if not in Denver, then in the GE.

    You are wasting your time. There are no votes for Soetero here.

    PUMA

    Rise Hillary Rise!

  • imustprotest

    Go back and read your ranting quotes..enough said.

  • simanov

    Lolo Jr. will never become President with those citizenship issues.

  • imustprotest

    Well her husband is a narcissist….she may be a narcissist as well.

  • Papoose

    I am so proud and happy and in love with being an American with you.

    Listen. Ear to the ground.

    Papoose // August 15, 2008 at 4:23 pm

    Wow. Uppity just posted a wonderful compilation that sums it all up in her own special way. She’s narrowed it down to 2 Questions.

    Grab you tissues, my friends.

    The Truth Hurts.

    PA News: Ed Rendell just laid it all out on Fox. They’re not with us. They are going to do their best to sway us. Looking at the specific areas they need to work on. Get out your markers and poster boards. Bring your list of questions, loaves and fishes.

    No Deal.

    _____________________thank you________to
    Timepassages
    http://nativeamericansagainstobama.wordpress.com/

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Keep dreaming honey! I got two words: Peter Paul!

  • Patti

    Why is there a parade. The only people who fall in line are those who serve in the military and I’m a civilian…

  • se

    Ok, the Selective Service System’s Deputy Director for Public and Intergovernmental Affairs is Richard S. Flahaven. His number is (703) 605-4017. Fax is (703) 605-4106.

    It’s after hours there now but I called anyway just to verify the number. His voicemail is full so it’ll have to wait until Monday.

    se

  • Steve1

    Hey get over Show me Mr. Soetoro’s original BC? What is the problem. It is a simple request! The American people have every right to know? Answer me-where is the original BC???

  • roseeriter

    LOL well now all us old typical white women are angry and loud too. And Obama told us to just Get over it…Guess we’re even…lol!

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Okay Lou Dobbs!

  • imustprotest

    I know, they do seem unusually upset today. I mean they always act like jerks but more so today that’s for sure.

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Not trying to persuade you Clintonistas here. I can’t fix crazy!

  • Patti

    I have 2 words for you: F*ck Off..

  • less than gracious HRC supporter

    That’s the thing with “you people.” You are incapable of understanding the difference between being a ‘supporter’ and being a ‘follower.’ Keep drinking the cult-aide. BTW – where are all of Jim Jones’ followers today?

    PUMA

    Rise Hillary Rise!

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    What’s wrong honey? I think that you should worry about your mental health.

  • Papoose
  • roseeriter

    Oh lordy- that is a stretch and you know it. 143 days in the senate and most of that time he was campaigning and prepping for campaigning. And go educate yourself about HOW little he did in Illinois especially for the AAs there.

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Okay I’m a jerk. I give in. Maybe you guys should too.

  • imustprotest

    I thought you were leaving?

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    This troll is likely a fat white twenty-something (NIKE–No Income Kid with Education) pounding away at his keyboard and his pud in mom’s basement, furious because the people at World of Warcraft won’t hire him at a generous salary with benefits, because he, “…like, kneeeews the gaaaame better than, like, ANYONE, yew kneeeew…”

    He’s taking it out on us, all of his anger and his frustration. See, he can’t do anything right. No job, no motivation, no prospects, no girlfriend…and now, since the flipflops Obama has done on major issues like the war and FISA, and his more recent foreign policy stumbles, this punk is thinking “Shit, I can’t even pick a decent Presidential candidate.”

    Hell, who wouldn’t be angry? This is just the latest bad choice in a series for him. How many times can he flip the coin and have it come up “Loser!” before he starts to get frustrated?

    It sucks to be him, as the kids say!

  • less than gracious HRC supporter

    Can’t fix stupid, either.

    You are wasting your time. There are no votes for Soetero here.

    PUMA

    Rise Hillary Rise!

  • roseeriter

    LOL I love a parade:-) OY!

  • less than gracious HRC supporter

    At least we know what her legal name is.

    Is your candidate Obama or Soetero? Where are all of his lame-ass records?

  • imustprotest

    Nope. Still NObama for me.

  • no waffles aka drkate

    Brownshirt Youths for Soetoro/Obama!

  • Katmoon

    Wow, just got up form a nice lazy afternoon nap, and I see the bot infestation is still full force. From what i have read on this thread, there seems to be a great deal of fear about the school records and their implication. To Ponder, if it makes us look like fools, then why would the bots care, what we talk about. Need some afternoon “candy-coffee*(the sugar and cream or Bailey’s treatment). I’ll be back soon…(still can hear Fagan singing it).

  • TrollPatrol

    Why should I care whether or not he held citizenship in another country forty years ago?

    Let’s see, maybe because the Constitution of the United States has very specific guidelines about who’s eligible to run for President? Oh, but foreigners (like 90% of you trolls) don’t really give a crap about our Constitution, do you?

  • beebop

    Don’t forget that he’s “been consistent ….” That is a real good one. You know to grab your shovel when he pulls that one out.

  • beebop

    That’s presumptuous PRESIDENT Soretoes to YOU buster!

  • no waffles aka drkate

    have you ever read the constitution of the United States, or didn’t they teach you that in high school?

    run along now, scared troll.

  • indy
  • http://! Clinton Fan

    BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Now what will he do, poor Franklin of Trolldom?

    He gave you an ORDER, over the internet, with his little keyboard…and you refused to OBEY!!

    He’s gonna huff, and he’s gonna puff…but will he blow your house down?

    Times like this call for that little icon of a fat guy rolling around on the floor laughing his ass off!

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Shut the hell up!!! I guess he is not black enough. Bitch please! I don’ think that if Barack wins the presidency that racism and poverty would magically disappear over night. However, you crazy ass Hillary supporters think that sexism would go away, as well as other problems if she were to win? Hillary does not care about you. It’s all about her and her goddamm ambition! So screw yourself! PLEASE tell me why Hillary is more qualified. She is a goddamn liar with no real credentials, and she is riding on the coattails of her damn redneck husband.

  • beebop

    Maybe they’ll send you your very own honorary Hawaiian COLB? Wouldn’t that be nice to have for your scrap book?

  • Nellie

    Dr. Kate,

    Great response.

    “Get Over It”, frankly with the research I have done, Barry and his wife’s blatant criminality, as well as that of his associates, his harm to his own constituents, and the chronic Fascist Bullying that started before Iowa and has been endemic throughout the primaries, in addition to his ongoing pathological lying, I would not for for Barry/Barack if he had blond hair and blue eyes, or looked like Tom Cruise or Arnold Schwartznegger. Add in his money laundering and other possible activities, and what you have if Gutter Trash, irregardless of what color his hair, eyes or skin is.

    I do vote on character and I have met excons with more character then Barry will ever have. They also do not have the gragantuan oversized EGOs that Barry and his wife have.

    Oh, do not try and guilt trip me. My resume in the furthering of civil, or as I prefer, Human Rights is most likely a hell of a lot longer and with more depth than you have.

    Listen Up! Voting for someone based on skin color is not only a piss poor way of electing someone who controls the lives of others, it is MAJOR RACISM.

    So if that is you selection basis then YOU are the Racist and not anyone else.

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    I am having too much with you.

  • ming the merciless

    Yep. Hope and change are Obama’s big sales pitch. Change you can believe in. What right-thinking American wants any part of that bullshit?

    A vote for McCain is for more of the same. That’s the ticket! Who could possibly resist the appeal of such prospect? John just needs to get his message across to the younger voters.

    Maybe he could work up an enthusiastic little dance like the old guy on the Six Flags commerical.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU2yt6wOoK0

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    And Hillary has done more for black folks?

  • roseeriter

    So you believe all those right wing slurs against the clintons? You must be a republican for Obama, believe men are still superior than you or you’re a real phony democrat and don’t want unity- FRAUD!

  • less than gracious HRC supporter

    Actually, I think the shirts are light blue. At the DNC Platform Committee meeting last weekend, way too many men were wearing Obama I mean Soetero-blue shirts (same light blue shade as the Berlin poster that matched the color of his lips so well). This, paired with khaki pants, appears to be the uniform for his followers.

    FYI to those of you heading to Denver.

    PUMA

    Rise Hillary Rise!

  • imustprotest

    Really? Well don’t stay on my account.

  • Steve1

    Ok, you can’t answer my simple request! What a poor BOT! OK, Here is another simple request. Why hasn’t Barry Soetoro filed a suit of Defamation against a person called Larry Sinclair! You know he is slandering the One! Yikes, Said he smoked crack-meth from a glass pipe in 1999??

  • simanov

    You shouldn’t have volunteered for medical experiments. Did you get time off for it?

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Why can’t you get this through her thick ass skull? Hillary is not Jesus!

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Dumbass!

  • Steve1

    Ok, you can’t answer my simple request! Ok here is another one. This Larry Sinclair person states that he and Mr. Soetoro took a Limo ride and partook in some recreational sex! Yikes..Why don’t Mr. Soetoro file suit against Mr. Sinclair to STOP THE SMEARS? Look I have nothing against gays-but Soetoro is running for POTUS! Answer please, help me understand?

  • imustprotest

    I thought I was “sweetie”?

  • Katmoon

    Want some of my special coffee? It will take that edge off for you.

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    Oh, we know who’s ridiculous at this forum. The Olbermaneque “You Sir” is a dead giveaway!

    You clearly enjoy tilting at windmills, like many a loser before you.

    No life?

    No job?

    No girlfriend is pretty much a given.

    Your Committed Christian Messiah, Saint Barack, is displeased with your insults against his faith. Undaunted, and demonstrating the effectiveness of the humorectomy you no doubt underwent, you start carping like a child without his Ritalin about anagrams, as if that will somehow mitigate the amusement of the initial comment. Pssst–it doesn’t.

    Gee, if polls don’t matter, why are you so CONCERNED about them? Hmmmm?

    You’ve trolled poorly, young man. Very poorly indeed.

  • J. Smith

    There are many reasons why McCain is a centrist as far as Republicans are concerned.

    League of Conservation Voters:

    LCV has endorsed Republican John McCain for reelection in the U. S. Senate to represent Arizona. Senator McCain has been a leader on global warming, a strong voice of reason against drilling in the Arctic Wildlife Refuge, and has voiced his opposition to the Bush/Cheney Energy Bill.

    http://www.lcv.org/campaigns/endorsements/2004-congressional-endorsements.html#Il

    Let’s see, Barry voted FOR the Cheney Energy Bill, and Mr. Constitutional Scholar (or whatever he is)flipped on FISA.

    I’ll take McCain held in check by a Dem Congress any day over the capricious and largely unknown commodity Obama. What I DO know about Barry is that he will engage in the most underhanded methods to gain power – as Clinton was slandered as a liar and racist during the primary.

    NeverObama

  • Steve1

    Matt Have you heard of the death threats and the attacks upon the people and families, the name calling, because they question “the One?”

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Barack Obama won the nomination fair and square. Your girl tried to cheat her way to the nod by keeping her name on the ballot in Michigan, while every one else took theirs off, and by going strictly on name recognition in Florida. Boo-hoo!

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    I am done with you crazy mofos! I can’t fix stupid.

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    Head of household, father, was Lolo.

    Write the name of the mother (if widowed, the head of household) ONLY IF Lolo is deceased.

    Barack the Bigamist had no role here.

    Daddy was Lolo, Mommy was Stanley Ann.

    Indonesia is a patriarchal society. Father Knows Best, and Father is the guy who gets all the props. Wise is the man who knows his own father….

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    This some sad ass shit!

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Oh, honey black people don’t take that shit!

  • ming the merciless

    So, you’re threatening to injure yourselves and everybody else by voting republican if you can’t have the democratic candidate of your choice.

    Have we got that straight?

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    You can always sign a SF 180 which authorizes release of records, even if those records are rather paltry. You can even limit release to specific items if you’d like.

  • less than gracious HRC supporter

    See, this is where you SObots are so deficient. “Winning” the presidency isn’t like scoring more points and winning a basketball game. Who we elect to the office of President of the United States is a matter of national security.

    Even if it were true that Soetero ‘won,’ there is no way anyone with half a brain would think that he is qualified to be the president of the US.

    He hasn’t achieved anything, hasn’t managed anything, hasn’t been a leader anywhere. He has no, ZERO, experience with being in charge of anything.

    IMO, all he has are his corrupt political connections to help him cheat his way into office.

    You could say that instead of being The One, he’s actually a Big Zero.

    PUMA

    Rise Hillary Rise!

  • Steve1

    Ok-you can’t answer my simple question…Let’s go back to my first simple request. Why doesn’t Barry Soetoro release his original B/C?

  • Marie

    If she is the VP all is not lost and wouldn’t that allow the DNC to save face if all of this comes our after the convention?

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    I’m not concerned with polls, I was stating that they are worthless. I was pointing out the silliness of the anagram. Conservatives can’t win an argument based on facts, they always resort to name calling and when they know they are beat they just say “I’m not talking about it”. I can see by your name that you aren’t a conservative, but you’re using the same tactics.
    This nonsense about Barack not being eligible to be president is the same kind of thing GWB did to McCain in 2000, with his whisper campaign about McCain having an illegitimate black baby. You don’t bring forth any evidence supporting your claim, you just make claims. If this paper is authentic, what does that mean? What does it say? If all it is is a piece of paper that says Barry Sotereo on top, it means nothing. Please explain it to me, I really don’t understand it.
    I’m not a completely unreasonable person, quite the opposite actually. But I am a skeptic and wild allegations mean nothing to me without something to back them up.

  • less than gracious HRC supporter

    Oh, and don’t call Hillary our ‘girl.’ You wouldn’t like it if we called Barry your ‘boy.’

    We’re not being racist, and you don’t need to be sexist. mmmmkay?

  • Katmoon

    No, not for me at least. I won’t be voting that ticket. Left the party because of the primaries, now I vote person, not party. I’ll never vote for O, ever. I don’t think Senator Clinton will put herself in that position, the nowheresville of being a VP, and ruin a possible run in 2012, by being associated with O.

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Your new name is “Dumbass,” sweetie.

  • ming the merciless

    There we go! He’s a centrist as far as the republicans are concerned. We’re talking about relative centers.

    The League of Conservatin Voters ranked John McCain dead last on environmental votes at the end of 2007. They give John McCain a rating of ZERO.

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/02/22/group_ranks_mccain_last_on_env.html

    That congressional endorsement you cited is four years out of date.

  • less than gracious HRC supporter

    Yes. I’ve been hoping that he’s a hologram.

    PUMA

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Hey honey, “deficient” and “basketball,” Not racist? Newsflash! Hillary hasn’t achieved anything, hasn’t managed anything, hasn’t been a leader anywhere. She has no, ZERO, experience with being in charge of anything. IMO, all she has are her corrupt political connections to help her cheat her way into office.

    You could say that instead of being The One, she’s actually a Big Zero.

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Are you for real? Look. Barky has stated in no uncertain terms that he has never been a muslim, this paper clearly shows his parents did consider him to be so. Even in Barky’s book which a few commenters have linked too, he admits to going to a mosque with his father and he has also admitted to knowing Muslim prayers by heart with proper pronunciation. My parents raised me catholic, so I say, I was raised catholic but I no longer practise. This is what barky should have said instead of saying he has NEVER BEEN A MUSLIM because it makes him look even more like a liar than before. I would have more respect for him had he done that, but when his own half brother claims he is a muslim, both his fathers were muslim and this sort of paperwork come to light, and he says HE HAS NEVER BEEN A MUSLIM, well, only a half wit wouldn’t be at least a little skeptical.

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Hillary has referred to herself as “girl,” as “I’m you girl.” Calling Barack “boy” has a completely different connotation, and you damn well know that. Ass!

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    You’re one. A rather stupid and immature one, as well.

    We all agree.

    We like seeing you, though–as the troll presence here increases, it speaks volumes as to the deflated state of morale over at Obamaland.

    Your frantic earnestness betrays you. Your fear is palpable.

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Oh, btw, I am a woman, a black woman, so I do not need a goddamn lecture on this shit!

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    I don’t believe a child can make the decision of what religion they are. Barack’s mother was an atheist, why would she make her son a muslim? His stepfather was a muslim, so it would make sense that he would know some things about islam and visited a mosque. Also, he was living in a predominantly muslim country, but that doesn’t mean he was a muslim. Do you have pictures of him praying to Mecca? I’d like to see a link to an interview with his half-brother who says Barack was a muslim if you could.

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Why the hell does it matter? He was child; therefore, he had zero control of such a thing.

  • imustprotest

    OMG you keep saying this…I posted a long comment up thread on just a few of her accomplishments….didn’t you read it?? You asked for ONE and I gave several. Why do you ask questions if you do not want the answers? Never mind I know…you’re just a bot troll.

  • http://! Buzz Latte

    Oh by the way, eff off!

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    Good luck with that.

  • less than gracious HRC supporter

    You should go lie down now.

    Your candidate is the one being portrayed as The One. While Hillary has been called lots of names, referring to her as Jesus has not been done. Her supporters don’t see Hillary as a savior or deity, unlike Soetero and his followers.

    Still so pathetic and desperate. And such futile arguments.

    You need more cult-aide. There, there…you’ll feel better soon.

    PUMA.

    Rise Hillary Rise!

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Go fuck yourself!!! The truth hurts like mother, huh?

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    What is the damn question asshole?

  • http://! Buzz Latte

    NO, but you can fix your character which is incredibly lacking. MLK Jr would be disappointed. Too bad you wasted his legacy by being black first and smart second.

  • less than gracious HRC supporter

    Why not? Everything else about him is hollow and empty.

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    He’s been studying Bush. Bush does the exact same thing, only he uses “Let me finish” when no one is interrupting him.

    They’re two rotted peas from the same rotted pod. “Party affiliation” is purely a distractor, here.

  • http://! Buzz Latte

    LIke I said…too bad you waste MLK Jr’s legacy by being black first and smart second.

    No wonder you still think there’s a racial issue.

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Jesus Christ, he was raised a muslim in a very militant muslim country. No one who has children and goes to any church, mosque or temple will fall for your talking point. Period. I’m guessing you don’t go to church. Or at least not very religious. Most Americans are. They see through this.

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    Look at your name calling, I haven’t been calling people names. I’m asking for facts and instead of educating me you people jump all over me.

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    How so? Do you have examples of him being hollow and empty?

  • http://! Buzz Latte

    And?

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Why does he have to? He is an American citizen. I know that is difficult to believe considering his “exotic” name and background. You know, I highly doubt that you would do this to an “other” candidate. But that is what the Hillary Klan wants: “paint him as the “other:” he is not a real “American.” Shut the hell up!

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    PS there was a video up NQ which shows Barky’s half brother. And a few great photos of him. Do a search. I’m not your bitchgirl.

  • http://! Buzz Latte

    Oh the trollies are exceptionally belligerent right now. Behind anger is fear. Fear is the motivation today.

    Could it be a huge change of course has been explained to them?

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Hey guys, this one is a fake troll. Repug in disguise. Ignore. It will shrival up, dry out and flake off.

  • WildChild

    It’s not an issue of who the plaintiff is. We’re talking about the Privacy Act. The US Government isn’t going to release seoBOBO’s selective service information to anybody sending them an email. It doesn’t work that way.

  • less than gracious HRC supporter

    Soetero could have Allah as his VP and I would never vote for him.

    HRC should stay as far away as she can from the BO or BS stink and let him lose all on his own.

    No Deal.

    PUMA.

  • Andy

    Ginaswo:

    It is that comments by Lanny turncoat Davis don’t help…. I think HRC is under enormous pressure. Lanny told ABC (emphasis mine):

    Longtime Hillary Clinton friend Lanny Davis applauded the news and said Clinton intends to vote for Obama when her name is called, and will move to nominate Obama by acclamation.

    “I think it’s a perfect solution,” said Davis, who went to Yale Law School with the Clintons and was a special counsel to former President Clinton.

    “We are absolutely committed to electing Barack Obama and this is the best way to do it so let people have their moment,” Davis said.
    “Sen. Clinton will assure that nothing will occur that will hinder Sen. Obama ‘s chances but even more will help him by when it comes time for her vote, by voting for him and by moving at the convention to nominate Sen. Obama by acclamation.”

    Davis said Clinton will have “no sympathy” for some of her supporters who pledge to continue to try to get her nominated at the convention.

    “It’s a free country and some of the more passionate and less, say, constructive of her supporters are a very, very small minority, might try to do something like that,” he said. “No one can be associated with more loyalty and dedication than I towards Sen. Clinton and I will and many of us will be very critical of anybody on the convention floor to do anything that undermines Sen. Obama.”

    “If that happened, if someone who hogs the microphone or tries to demagogue or tries to be negative, there will no sympathy from Hillary Clinton or loyalists such as myself,” Davis said.

    The whole article is long; so I included only Lanny Davis comments.

    http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=5579194

    THIS IS A TRAVESTY !!!!

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    Broad brush, much?

    What unites us here, you race baiter, you, is an aversion to Obama.

    Some of us intend to vote in protest for Cynthia McKinney.

    Did I call you a race-baiter? Why yes, I did. And I meant it, ya race baiting hypocrite, you. You should be ashamed of yourself–but that takes a modicum of awareness.

    Tool.

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Actually hun, I am a young, educated, and strong black woman. I know difficult to believe but try to comprehend. I do not live in my mom’s basement, nor am I overweight (5’9,” 135 pounds of pure blackness, with a mean ass fro’) I kid you fucking not!

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    The fuck? Criminality? Oh honey, let’s not. People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. That is all.

  • Katmoon

    I seriously think they have support confused with whipping themselves into a foam. I love the discourse, but over the past 24 hours, it’s more the flavor of nonsense,tantrum-like, and the MSM is aiding and abetting with more of the continued Clinton slams, and phrasing, pitting as usual folks against each other. That doesn’t excuse stupidity, nothing does.

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    Pot meet kettle.

  • WildChild

    strawberry, bid you know that seoBOBO has 99 problems but a bitch ain’t one for them? But Hillary is at least 90 of them.

  • Andy

    That’s great but I think you need some help with anger management “hun”

    Now, please stop trolling: i.e it is not necessary for you to write after every other comment.

  • imustprotest

    oh there now….you just gave yourself away…which troll used to use that phrase all the time?? sfhillary? Dave? Which one are you? Or are you using all those names?

  • less than gracious HRC supporter

    I used the basketball reference so you might make a connection, after all, your candidate was The One shooting hoops all over Europe.

    Maybe you’ve already blocked that painful memory.

    Futile, pathetic, desperate SObot.

    PUMA

  • WildChild

    then let’s get back to it. Why do you think seoBOBO hid that he is a Muslim?

  • TeakWoodKite

    Damn girl….”bro’s before Ho’s” works real well for you eh? Disgusting.

    I am sure the “black women” in the 313 don’t need a lecture about how Barry Soetoro, or what ever the frauds name is or was, about freezing their ASS off in Chicago winter, now DO THEY?

    “YOU PEOPLE” ??? Now who might you be speaking to?? You do realize that is a racist remark, don’t you?

    I really don’t give a stinky BO sock what color or gender you are, it is not about YOU.

  • imustprotest

    you people jump all over me.
    Barry? Barry Soretoes is that you?

  • http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    Got to love Obamafreaks and their one and only talking point.

  • imustprotest

    Oh wait…maybe Rory, haven’t seen him/her around lately.

  • se

    It’s not an issue of who the plaintiff is.

    Your quote specifically cited a plaintiff.

    We’re talking about the Privacy Act. The US Government isn’t going to release seoBOBO’s selective service information to anybody sending them an email. It doesn’t work that way.

    Well, with some luck, maybe we’ll find out Monday.

    se

  • gotalife

    Nice thread .

    Well done sir.

  • WildChild

    facts? Ok. soeBOBO voted for telecom immunity after telling us during the primaries that he opposed it… and that little revelation during the primaries would have lost him the primaries. LOL so he hid it from us.

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    WC, the place is crawling with trolls and repug moles today. Something tells me there’a something blowing in the wind…

  • se

    then let’s get back to it. Why do you think seoBOBO hid that he is a Muslim?

    He is?

    se

  • JohnT

    You people need to get over: You must get a bit higher pay than other bots who receive only $7/hour as you can stand with lots of insultations here for quite long not like other Obots!

  • less than gracious HRC supporter

    Funny you should bring that up. You do seem to be like a jackass braying.

    And again this is where ‘you people’ are so deficient. Sexism is equally offensive as racism. You don’t have a monopoly on persecution.

    And no one knew you were black until you brought it up. Can’t hide behind racism all your life.

    Guess who ‘needs to get over it’ now? Think, think, think. Oh, that’s right – YOU!

    PUMA

  • james

    The non-partisan study revealing overseas military personnel contributions are favoring the Obama campaign over McCain by a ratio of 6 to 1 just made primetime national news, on both CNN and MSNBC both.

    Overall military contributions–stateside and overseas combined–also favor Obama, although not by so wide a margin.

    So, John… What does it mean when most of the military support is behind the other guy? Got any theories?

  • TeakWoodKite

    Do you know Hillary?

    yes.

  • http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    Camp Koolaid —–> that way

    Take your race baiting ass on out of here.

  • Northwest rain

    Idiot troll — unpatriotic jackass.

    One thing MILITARY BRATS know is that they are US citizens — even if they are born overseas.

    Read the Texas Darlin post about divided loyalties on NQ — it is a long article — 2 parts. Troll’s reading comprehension ability is close to zero — so here’s a very short version.

    Article II of the US Constitution is about the constitutional requirement of the President. A Dual citizen cannot be commander in chief of the US military.

    McCain was born in Panama to AMERICAN CITIZENS. His military father was posted there — McCain does NOT lose his citizenship — military brats know this simple fact. McCain never made any effort to claim Panamanian citizenship and McCain JOINED the military — and as such he took assorted oaths of allegiance to the USA.

    1. Parents BOTH US Citizens.
    2. Father US Navy — on duty for his country.
    3. McCain never acted on Panamanian citizenship he remained a US citizen — no divide loyalties for McCain.
    4. McCain joined the Navy — in service to his country.

    —————

    Contrast McCain with Barry Soetoro

    1. Barry born to ONE US citizen — his father was Kenyan.
    2. Age of Barry’s mother at his birth brings up questions about Barry’s qualifications to run for the office of Prez.
    3. Adoption of Barry by Lolo Soetoro — indicated by Indonesian school records. At that point was Barry a dual citizen — or an Indonesian citizen? Did Barry travel on his mother’s passpost — or did he have his own Indonesian passport?

    4. Barry returns to Hawaii to live with his grandparents and he retains his Barry Soetoro identity. What sort of records did his grandparents need to show the school? (Again — military brats understand about school records and changing schools — there is a whole lot of paper work involved.)

    5. How and when did Barry Soetoro become Barack H. Obama?

    6. What did Barry do to terminate his Indonesian citizenship?

    ————-

    Women (stupidly) change their names when they marry. With the new “True Identity” requirements by the US Government — forced on the States — women have been caught in the dragnet and have had to document their name change(s).

    How is Barry Soretoro able to skip documentation of his name change?

    McCain has an unambiguous paper trail — his was an overseas birth — however his father was active duty AND McCain also joined the Navy. (Go Navy!!!)

    Barry Soetoro/Obama has consistently lied, and done back flips about his background. There is NO clear paper trail for Soretoro/Obama and he refuses to provide simple documentation.

    McCain has not lied about who he is — and he has shown reporters his birth certificate.

    Barry Soetoro has lied about who he is and exactly where and when he was born — we have yet to see a valid birth certificate from him.

    I happened to have been born in a US military hospital in the US — however, many military brats are born overseas — one thing we KNOW is that we do not lose our citizenship because we are born overseas!

    The next time a damned troll makes an unpatriotic claim against McCain — tells me that you trolls are ignorant unAmerican slugs. Which tells me that if Soetoro attracts slugs like you creepy trolls that Barry Soetoro is also a slug.

    PUMA

  • JohnT

    You people need to get over: How much you get for blogging here? You must get a bit higher pay than other bots who receive only $7/hour as you can stand with lots of insultations here for quite long not like other Obots!

  • http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    Sad to see what this country will be like if Obama gets elected. People like this will think their hate has legitamacy.

  • MEchelle Hates America!

    And that would leave Oblowme firmly in her shadow.

    Rezko & Oblowme Soetoro sitting in a tree mansion cell –

    Two con men who can go to hell!

  • imustprotest

    I have a theory James! You are hijacking this thread! This diary is about the legitimate unanswered questions concerning Barry Soretoes. You are trying to distract the conversation from it’s original intent.

  • imustprotest

    John Barry is paying OT $$ for these trolls. Damage control.

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Logically, one of two reasons. He was afraid middle America wouldn’t believe that he was no longer a muslim, it being a post 911 world. (stupid really because we elected our first muslim to congress just recently, we Americans are a good lot) Or two he is still a muslim and wants to hide the fact. Either way, he threw muslims…overboard. Sorry if I hear ‘under the bus’ one more time, I’ll step out in front of a Greyhound myself, and it will be bound for Chicago.

  • Hope

    Boy, wouldn’t you just love to know what is really behind all the betrayal?

  • Nellie

    If you read Judah Benjamins first and third posts, you will see that EVERY head of house in Indonesia had to carry an identity card with family information on it.

    Lolo didn’t have to “fill out” anything. Someone else filled in the info from the identity card. Lolo at most probaly just signed it.

    Further Lolo had a GOVERNMENT job. Indonesians take citizendship AND class very sersiously. Lolo was from the indigenious people called Malay’s. Thus, with the proper “connections” he was “entitled” to a government job. If he had LIED about the adoption, he would have been totally “out” of any government associated jobs.

    The other two races – Chines and Indians are considered second class citizens in Indonesia and do not hold government jobs. Further, the government pays for Malay’s to be educated abroad. Chinese and Indians have to pay their own college tuitions.

  • WildChild

    LMAO more semantical games se? My quote was from a US government overview on the privacy act released in 2004. Anybody who has the power to release information would be using that overview as guidance in their decision making. Now when the review says that a disclosure of information is a violation of the privacy act when it retrieved by either a name or a service number, I have a difficult time believing any claims which would suggest information requested by a random e-mailer would then be retrieved (using the name given by the emailer) and released to that emailer when the courts are saying it’s a violation of law to do so. This is not the proper way that the US government handles information release when the disclosure of that information is controlled by the privacy act. Any claims made to the contrary are immediately suspect.

    With varying degrees of clarity, the courts generally have ruled that a disclosure in violation of subsection (b) does not occur unless the plaintiff’s record was actually retrieved by reference to his name or personal identifier.

  • Hope

    Fantastic idea!

  • Nellie

    Too funny!

    However, since McCain was born of two AMERICAN Citizens, who were in Panama in the service of our country, The resolution was not needed.

  • WildChild

    yup, even his dad swore to it.

  • JohnT

    These kid trolls will disappear within a couple of weeks when the school holidays are over. Today is Friday, it is not surprising lots of them around on the Internet; and they may get some Over time as well.

  • You people need to get over it!!!!

    I meant “do not” Harriet Christian.

  • imustprotest

    See you did it again..racial politics. Perhaps you don’t realize you’re doing it. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt here. Seriously, you should go back and read your posts.

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    “Now ANSWER MY QUESTION!!!”

    There’s something so pathetic about trolls barking orders on the internet.

    You’ve lost.

    You are an object of derision.

    We laugh at you and your fear.

  • james

    You are quite correct. That was off topic, and not in response to the comment someone who had already drifted. Sorry.

  • JohnT

    I have an 16-years old son; he is much clever than these kid trolls. He told me that he would not want to make $7/hour just to contradict the truth. I am proud of my son!

  • rw

    I’m also educated (started my PH.D.)- what’s “a mean ass fro’”?

  • Hope

    Good points all around, Clinton fan. What’s worse than being used and demeaned? Not knowing when you are being used and demeaned.

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Whoa, darkies, niiiiiice. Karl Rove is that you? This one is a repug mole stirring up shit, ignore.

  • JohnT

    What PhD do you do? at What University? Trolls?

  • JohnT

    PhD students would not blog for $7/hour!

  • http://www.ushistory.org/Declaration/document/index.htm Hillary’sSimplytheBest

    Interesting NEWS>>> Corsi “The Obama Nation” said in an interview on FOX NEWS, Corsi asks “what would be helpful is if Obama would release primary Documents like his birth certificate”!

    Also I believe James Carvel’s wife is Madeline M. heads the Simon & Schuster publication that published the book. James is close to the Clinton’s worked on Bill Clintons campaign etc. The Clinton’s had to have know about this book coming out and the affect it could have.

  • AngryWhitePerson

    You are an idiot. Get the fuck over yourself.

  • no waffles aka drkate

    Mathew: I appreciate your post very much. Regarding the blogs and information therein, I have to respectfully disagree.

    First, it is quite obvious why information is anonymous: the MSM doesn’t care; the DNC doesn’t; Obama sure doesn’t, and nobody else knows. Those who do know are threatened and attacked. Wherelse can this information be researched and posted.

    Secondly, much of which is written about here can be verified independently, indeed much of what is written is sourced reputably.

    Third, I am quite sure there have been efforts to cover this up on the DEM side, and efforts to withold this for strategic advantage on the republican side, to avoid a more formidable opponent.

    So there you have it, right under our noses both parties are playing with the American public. Obama represents the end of the democratic brand, just like bush was the end of the republican brand.

    Even if Obama has all his papers in line,and tries to pull it out later in a fast one for the sympathy/affimatrive action appeal, the very fact of his lying and obsfucation makes him unfit to lead.

    All people of color will suffer from Obama’s lies and errant, narcissitic, behavior. He should step down now. It is not “his time”.

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    You are a white repug mole trying waaaaaaay too hard to sound black and it’s as painful to watch as the token white guy on In Living Color.

  • TeakWoodKite

    There are many things a child can’t control.

    Instead of asking ‘What is the damn question asshole?’ as a child you might have asked, What’s for diner knowing all the time ya ask it, the answer is just like Barry Soetoro. Nothing.

    Can ya have little Barry report to Principle Poop’s office? He was not being respectful to the person teaching him the Quran!

    The teacher said he could not commit to memory;

    ‘O My servants who have transgressed against your own souls:
    do not despair of God’s mercy,
    for God forgives all sins.
    It is He who is the Forgiving, the Merciful.’
    Qur’an (39:53)
    اذهب في سلام مع الله

  • WildChild

    LOL its was just a misspelling. soeMOMO is Queen Cong. here look…

    http://media-files.gather.com/images/d497/d819/d744/d224/d96/f3/full.jpg

  • imustprotest

    Oh, I have another guess…..Reddrama? SusieQ?

  • Hope

    Why doesn’t he and you ‘just get over it’, that’s your moniker, right?

    Seems you have your hopes of equality and fair treatment for all pinned to a fraud. My condolences.

  • WildChild

    Remember how that guy could bend himself into a pretzel? LOL now there’s an important skill to have when you are supporting the precious.

  • doctorwang

    Isn’t Sinclair in jail? Sue for what- the guy doesn’t have any money.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Who ever you are…Ask your self this question….because the truth is never to be sacrificed on the alter of greed.

    What does it say of yourself that you would vote for a human that has shown nothing but indifference toward his fellow man?

  • imustprotest

    You don’t know Maya Angelou?

  • athy

    Se,
    Thanks for this info.

  • WildChild
  • se

    Again, as I said, with some luck, maybe we’ll find out Monday.

    se

  • BlokeHead

    The Constitution didn’t stop Bush and Cheney from running in 2000, even though they were ineligible because they were from the same state. It hasn’t stopped McCain from running even though he’s not a natural born citizens.

    If you really think the powers that be are going to get hung up on nitpicks like this and overturn a party’s nomination, then your PUMA effort is a bigger waste of effort than I thought.

  • WildChild

    This is US Government administration. It’s the proper paperwork and not luck that is needed.

  • doctorwang

    You ought to post some photos and stories about the July PUMA convention in D.C., too – just to show how strong and determined the PUMA membership actually is:

    http://www.rumproast.com/index.php/site/comments/the_truth_about_puma_conference_08_you_cant_spell_conference_without_c_o_n/

  • WildChild

    If you showed photos of the Seattle democratic meetup they’d have fewer people.

  • se

    Either way, he threw muslims…overboard.

    Good. Now if he’d only throw Christians overboard too, I’d have a little more respect for him.

    se

  • Ferdberfle

    You sound just like a bushbot, Obamabot. Your candidate is exactly what we need, an AA Bush with an even worse attitude.

    ESAD

  • Ferdberfle

    You’re projecting again, Goober.

  • WildChild

    Hillary has been a US Senator (Full Time) for eight years. Six of which she wasn’t campaigning for president

  • Shainzona

    Very clever!

    And I truly wish Barry Soretoes WOULD LEAVE US ALONE!!

  • imustprotest

    Excuse me. Hillary is working in the Senate, even as we speak! Obama has accomplished nothing. Even in his “community organizing” days he accomplished nothing. Harvard Law Review?? Nothing. Professor? No journal articles, papers? Oh yeah, he wrote to books, about HIMSELF. Two books about someone who accomplished nothing. Two books about nothing.

  • athy

    Annie Oakley,
    http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1729524-2,00.html

    Read this article about Sen Obama’s mother.
    Acc to article she met Sen Obama’s father while they were both taking a
    Russian language course
    at University of Hawaii yet I do not recall reading anywhere where she worked in any Russian province? Am I missing something? Is article wrong?

    This woman was very well-educated.

    Acc to article she helped to build a microfinance program in Indonesia (heavy duty banking).

    Every so often, Ann would leave Indonesia to live in Hawaii—or New York or even, in the mid-1980s, Pakistan, for a microfinance job. She completed her Ph.D just before her death.

    When I read this article it appeared to me that Sen Obama had a VERY close relationship with his mother yet he writes a book explaining his relationship with his father-and almost ignores his mother’s existance except for some comments here and there?

    One might think that he did not want to attract attention to his mother. Why?

  • se

    “Now ANSWER MY QUESTION!!!”

    There’s something so pathetic about trolls barking orders on the internet.

    When you take “Now answer my question” and quote it as “Now ANSWER MY QUESTION!!!” you are being dishonest.

    You lose.

    se

  • Nellie

    kp,

    We are not talking about general citizenship. That applies to everyone, including anturalized citizens.

    The issue of article II of the Constitution is what is required for eligiblity for POTUS, and it clearly states natural born

    The Framers were talking about Allegiance, and Loyalty. The POTUS had to have only ONE Allegiance. The old Precedent Case for Article II was United States v. Rhodes and in that Case Justice Swayne said, “All persons born in the Allegiance of the King are Natural- Born subjects, and all persons born in the Allegiance of the United States are Natural-Born Citizens. Birth and Allegiance go together. Such is the Rule of the Common Law, and it is the Common Law of this Country…since as before the Revolution.”

    Obama apparently has one of more DUAL citizenships. That means divided loyalties or alligencies.

    You can read the entire thing here.

    http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/divided-loyalites-obamas-eligibility-problem-part-1/

    Further, US vs Rhodes established precedent or stare decisis. Therefore it would require a change to the constitution.

  • AngryWhitePerson

    Would you shut the fuck up already, You? Over and over with these mindless dumbass posts trying to prove something. Like someone with low self esteem constantly needing assurance. Obviously you are not a strong person. Just a wimp with a stank attitude and overinflated opinions.

  • J. Smith

    “Got any theories?” Yes, it’s the small sample size. Ron Paul came in second at 4 to 1 over McCain. Does Ron Paul who suspended his campaign months ago have a chance?

    A former West Point professor, Jason Dempsey, noted that the small set of contributions from deployed troops at this point in 2008 — just 323 donations — should not be extrapolated to form conclusions about military personnel overall. “If, on a bad day, a guy gets that letter that says [his tour has been extended] from 12 to 15 months, that could spur a quick donation and expression of anger,” he said. “Donating helps members of the military express their political views privately.”

  • Andy

    Indeed, sth. is up with all these “turncoats”…

  • WildChild

    If you’re a man soeBOBO has use for your mouth…in the back of his limo.

  • se

    And I’ll be calling them on Monday to try and verify Bob Owens’ claim. I’ll report whatever I’m able to find out.

    se

  • WildChild

    poor poor you. LOL it’s been so hard for you.

  • Observer

    It’s unconstitutional for Obama to be President. Hey, didn’t Obama ran on his so-called “life story”? Well, Obama can’t hide or cherry pick his past, warts and all, can he?

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    It’s a hairstyle–a fashion statement from the Black Power era, where natural (unconked/unstraightened/untreated) hair, wich is quite curly, is “blown out” with comb, hairdryer and–shhhhh!— the odd hair care product, making it less than “natural” unfortunately.

    That asinine comment makes me even more certain that our troll is not a trim black woman, but a fat white lad who is fixated on old Pam Grier (as Foxy Brown with mean ass fro) films. Or maybe his “Shaft” collection has gotten a recent workout due to the untimely death of Isaac Hayes.

    Not even the activist-far-left fringers bother with the “mean ass fro” look, any more– any more than women routinely marcel or tease their hair or wear pincurls or Shirley Temple curls.

    It’s too much goddamned WORK, those fros. You sleep on it, and you wake up looking like a crazy lady, or Gumby, or something. It needs constant trimming, shaping and attention, like a recalcitrant hedge.

    It’s a very high maintenance hairstyle, and it takes way too much of an investment in time to make it look halfway good.

    It’s just not a style for everyday. Even Angela Davis, who brought the look to an absurd level of fame, has dumped hers, for a more easy, cross between a “post-gheri” and a “my white Eye-talian grandma” kind of look.

    See: http://www.freedomarchives.org/Mabel_Williams.html

    And no self respecting black woman would call people “hun” and “sweetie” in this context–not even as a joke.

    On the internet, you can be anything, see? And our pudpuller in mama’s basement gets to be (a young) Pam Grier for a nanosecond. Hopefully, it made him happy, because he’s clearly shy on joy in his life.

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    It’s a hairstyle–a fashion statement from the Black Power era, where natural (unconked/unstraightened/untreated) hair, wich is quite curly, is “blown out” with comb, hairdryer and–shhhhh!— the odd hair care product, making it less than “natural” unfortunately.

    That asinine comment makes me even more certain that our troll is not a trim black woman, but a fat white lad who is fixated on old Pam Grier (as Foxy Brown with mean ass fro) films. Or maybe his “Shaft” collection has gotten a recent workout due to the untimely death of Isaac Hayes.

    Not even the activist-far-left fringers bother with the “mean ass fro” look, any more– any more than women routinely marcel or tease their hair or wear pincurls or Shirley Temple curls.

    It’s too much goddamned WORK, those fros. You sleep on it, and you wake up looking like a crazy lady, or Gumby, or something. It needs constant trimming, shaping and attention, like a recalcitrant hedge.

    It’s a very high maintenance hairstyle, and it takes way too much of an investment in time to make it look halfway good.

    It’s just not a style for everyday. Even Angela Davis, who brought the look to an absurd level of fame, has dumped hers, for a more easy, cross between a “post-gheri” and a “my white Eye-talian grandma” kind of look.

    See: http://www.freedomarchives.org/Mabel_Williams.html

    And no self respecting black woman would call people “hun” and “sweetie” in this context–not even as a joke.

    On the internet, you can be anything, see? And our pudpuller in mama’s basement gets to be (a young) Pam Grier for a nanosecond. Hopefully, it made him happy, because he’s clearly shy on joy in his life.

  • stodghie

    stop the name calling and showing your butt. not wanted here!

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    No, it isn’t true.

    You aren’t black, and you aren’t a woman.

  • WildChild

    your word isn’t going to do for anybody either way

  • stodghie

    tell you want, you are such a self involved, self centered dummy, you don’t get that YOU ARE RACIST. GET LOST AND F OFF!

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    Strawberry, I would never treat you like my “bitchgirl”, I have more respect for women than that. I think that your comment was a perfect example of what is going on with this whole PUMA thing. You seem to think it was a sexist thing, it wasn’t. At least for me and most of the people I know it wasn’t. I think a woman is every bit as capable as a man of running the country. Look at Angela Merkel, the German Chancellor, she is doing an amazing job running her country. In some ways I even think a woman could be a better leader as women are more compassionate and tend to care more for their fellow citizens.
    I voted for Barack Obama because I feel that he has a plan that will lead this country in a new, better, direction. If Barack were not in this race, my vote likely would have gone to Hillary (Bill Richardson would have been a distant second). Barack Obama is the candidate who’s policies and vision of the future of this country were most similar to my own. He’s not perfect, I’ll admit that. I don’t think he’s a messiah, but I think he is a very intelligent man who wants to do what he thinks is best for this country.
    I will look up the video and watch it. Thank you for telling me about it.

  • athy

    Jeremiah-I loved your post!

    I just wanted to pass on the fact that there are many msm journalists-real journalists-who know what the msm is doing and they are not happy but they have mortgages to pay and mouths to feed so they do what they are told.

    The ones that do try to make a difference are being kept so busy on BS stories and are so overworked that they have no time to ‘officially’ devote to uncovering and writing about the truth.
    We (bloggers, citizen journalists)can help them’
    When we provide comments and links, they can conduct further research and write stories-anonymously-as bloggers too.

    As long as people include links to the facts they present to support their opinions or statements- we are helping these msm and other indy journalists to help us.

    Many of these journalists went to school, starting out as idealists. They got into journalism to make the world a better place. With media consiolidation and everyone being forced to focus on profits-not informing the public-but profits from advertisers, these media companies are ‘intellectually beating to death some of these journalists but with the internet, it doesnt have to be that way. We can help them to help us AND we M U S T protect access to the internet in the future because there are a lot of people who want to take the internet access away from the public.

  • imustprotest

    SusieQ or whoever you are. You need to stop this race baiting talk. You comments are increasingly inflammatory.

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    ^ That wasn’t me by the way.

  • stodghie

    it seems like the obambi campaign is sending the stinkers brigade. new talking points ie show butt and often.

  • WildChild

    White women were enslaved for a lot longer then 400 hundred years, as were white men. But they seem to have gotten over it

  • Joy

    Comment by Hope Floats | 2008-08-15 12:08:25

    The men who signed our Constitution did not think this was so idiotic. People like you need flushed out of our system. The integrity of the founders’ principles must be maintained to ensure the safety and autonomy of our country.
    **********************************************
    Which means no black men or any women need apply.

  • rw

    …not able to apply for college financial aid or register for college unless he had registered for the elective Service.-

    totally.

  • Donkey Brazziere

    I will NOT be voting for Obama. PERIOD! :)

  • WildChild

    actually it means that nobody with dual citizenship need apply

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    Oh trust me, I know about that and I’m not exactly happy about it. But no candidate is going to agree with me 100% of the time. If this were part of a long history of him voting for that kind of thing it would concern me, but doing it one time seems like he genuinely did it to compromise with republicans because no bill would be passed otherwise. I’m also not pleased that he has bent on offshore oil drilling although that’s part of a compromise as well.

  • imustprotest

    huh? why the race baiting “joy”? We’re talking about dual citizenship and allegiance to the USA.

  • no waffles aka drkate

    so instead of “obots”, they are “o-soe bots”?

  • WildChild

    No bill needed to be passed. The original FISA legislation was alive and well. soeBOBO voting for telecom immunity let the bush administration off the hook for prosecution. Had soeBOBo ran on that position he would have lost the primary plain and simple. So he had to lie to us.

  • Ferdberfle

    If this were part of a long history of him voting for that kind of thing it would concern me, but doing it one time seems like he genuinely did it to compromise with republicans because no bill would be passed otherwise.

    He doesn’t have much of a history on anything so when he compromises (euphemism for flipflop) on an issue, I understand that to be his way of doing business. This isn’t about compromise at all–it’s about HIM getting onto the WH at any cost. That’s not what I want in a candidate.

  • WildChild

    they race bait, therefore they are.

  • Ferdberfle

    You need to learn a few definitions before you post again. The original poster said fictional, which is not the same as imaginary. You must be one of the Quasar Bots, spinnning at the speed of light.

    Oblahblah’s entire life and story are fiction, so yes, he is a fictional character.

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    I have not been sent by the Obama campaign. I have never received any kind of talking points either. I started out making a joke and was immediately attacked. Now I’m just trying to get some information on the claims being made here.

  • Observer

    What a disgusting comment, Obamabot! Your messiah Obama is a big phony with a secret Muslim past.

  • WildChild

    he hasn’t done much of anything yet he wrote two autobiographies.

  • Ferdberfle

    His concern about arugula?

  • doctorwang

    What Seattle democratic meetup? You’re not trying to compare a local group meeting with the national conference held by PUMA in Washington, DC (all 60 strong)?

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    That was a very funny post. Especially the “bitch please” nonsense.

    The best effort of a frightened, fat, unemployed white guy…!

    Surely you can do better…go for a little more “ghetto authenticity” in your diatribes, perhaps? That remark, plus the “redneck” business, isn’t quite carrying the day.

    You can answer your own question with a look at both resumes. If you have to ASK, you haven’t done the research, or you’re just trying to play “Demanding Troll.”

    That demand and five bucks will get you a Starbucks coffee. You should skip the caffeine, though–you’ve had more than enough of that JOLT or MONSTER drink down there in the basement, I think…

    Google–it’s your friend, too, dear.

  • QUEENIE

    well seems obama is pissing all over House Ways and Means Chairman Charles B. Rangel and won’t let this incredible man speak at the convention..now why would THAT BE???..OH YEAH REVENGE..

  • Ferdberfle

    Don’t you have some STDs to get treated, drwrong? You are swimming against the current, which is not in keeping with the Tau Te Ching.

  • WildChild

    yup, Seattle is crawling with Democrats. And only between 2 and 6 of them can ever make it to the meeting…. LOL and it’s in walking distance.

  • doctorwang

    Enquiring minds want to know………

    Sound a bit hostile, there SBB. Shouldn’t you be enjoying your victory? Hillary’s name will be placed in nomination!!! Why so glum?

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    I found one small problem with your claim that Barack’s half-brother said that Barack was a muslim, he didn’t.

    Jake Tapper, ABC News senior national correspondent, commenting on the recording in his blog, observes that “nowhere in there does Malik expressly say anything about Obama having a Muslim background. And nowhere does he ‘confirm’ anything about Obama having a Muslim background. Malik refers to Obama having a ‘connection’ to something, perhaps Islam, which could clearly be a reference to Obama’s father.”

    The claim was due to a poor quote that changed the context of what was said. I read an article retracting the allegations here:
    http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12918.htm
    Is that the same half-brother? I couldn’t find the video on this site, I’ll look again.

  • Nellie

    IF and I do mean IF, Obama Sr. married Ann Dunham it was for two reasons:

    1. She was jail bait (under 18) when he started messing with her and she got pregnant. Back then statuatory rape laws were pretty well enforcd.

    2, Given Obama’s Sr’s attitude toward bigamy, and low opinion of women in general, what was one more weeding that did not even match what were his customs and laws? Better than going to jail for messing around.

  • se

    your word isn’t going to do for anybody either way

    Won’t do for anybody? No. It will only not do for those such as yourself who haven’t any interest in the truth and never did. But those such as yourself don’t constitute everybody.

    And if nothing else, I’ll know what the truth is so it won’t have been a wasted effort.

    se

  • Ferdberfle

    Bathroom attendant at Little Debbie’s House o’ Sleaze.

  • imustprotest

    All polls have statistical errors and bias, you are naive if you think otherwise.

  • doctorwang

    Wow, AnyoneButClinton , I’ve never heard a PUMA talk like that before. Thank you for your insights!

    “Gooooooooooo PUMA!” Wow!

  • Ferdberfle

    seobot lecturing us about truth is like Karl Rove lecturing us on ethical conduct.

  • imustprotest

    Besides this wasn’t an annual “calling all PUMAS” meeting. This was billed as a planning meeting for Denver. I understand some of the major players like the coalition bloggers were there to discuss logistical info.

  • doctorwang

    “I’m a troll simply because I answer people’s questions and post my own opinions?”
    According to PUMA bylaws – yes, you are. Sorry

  • FranSC

    New Thread:
    It was reported today that Nancy Pelosi, along with a number of disgruntled democrats told a radio show that “Hillary Clinton had been very gracious, but some of her supporters had not been very gracious.”

    She continued, sympathetically, that it was very difficult to lose an election, but that Hillary’s supporters needed to stop the sour grapes and get on board.

    Would somebody please tell, Her Graciousness, that it is indeed difficult to come to grips with losing an election when you actually won- more votes, have as many delegates as the opponent, won the right states the nominee historically needs to win. However, your opponent is declared the “clear” winner by using unmonitored free-for-alls (caucuses in repub states)counting as much as the primary elections you won. Ex. – Obama won the same number of delegates in repub Idaho as Hillary won in PA. There is something desperately wrong with this picture.

  • ford

    drkate..your observations are correct.

  • imustprotest

    yawn.

  • ford

    I guess Nancy has her panties in bunch over us, yes?

  • WildChild

    I’m all about the truth. But the truth would require some sort of documentation. Even the email quoted in your link isn’t documented as it has no identifying headers or footers to link it to the person or agency it is claimed to come from. LOL we don’t even know who you are but you expect us to take your word on something that as yet hasn’t been documented? But then they’re not going to tell you anyway so what’s the difference.

  • Donna Brazile

    Ah, the GOOD Doctor Wanger!

    You must be between patients, semesters, or that secret place in your own mind where you’re important.

    Been trollin all day. Have you earned your six hours credit yet towards being eligible for admission to hear the Sermon on the Mount Redeux.

    I hear Jesus ain’t got nothin on the One.

    Stop the hate!

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    There is not a candidate in US history who hasn’t changed their opinion on something. Like I said, he’s not perfect, but he’s a hell of a lot better than what we’ve had for the last 8 years.

  • http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    soon to be banned. Wave Buh Bye!!

  • Ferdberfle

    Hello, quack.

  • WildChild

    There is not a candidate in US history who hasn’t changed their opinion on something

    cool, then soeBOBO isn’t change we can believe in. He’s just the same ol same old. There’s more evidense that he just a liar. How does that make him better then what we’ve had for the last for years?

  • Ferdberfle

    There is not a candidate in US history who hasn’t changed their opinion on something. Like I said, he’s not perfect, but he’s a hell of a lot better than what we’ve had for the last 8 years.

    The common practice argument is fallacious, frankie.

    Really, we know nothing about Oblahblah except that he will be the AA Bush, so even your fallacious argument falls flat. Try again, this time with feeling.

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    fictional |ˈfik sh ənl|
    adjective
    of or relating to fiction; invented for the purposes of fiction : fictional texts | a fictional character.

    imaginary |iˈmajəˌnerē|
    adjective
    1 existing only in the imagination : Chris had imaginary conversations with her.

    I guess there is a slight difference in the definitions, but are semantics that important?

  • http://theindependentview.com Matthew Weaver

    Yes, it is interesting that things can be right out in plain sight. The challenge there is for readers and researchers to think outside the box. I think, and personally Obama and company is very much to blame, that focus has been on his religion, which has unnecessarily distracted and discredited too many people. A vast majority of us could care less about what his religious is and for myself, I’ll vote for someone just as easily if they are Catholic, Mormon, Muslim, or whatever. I am far more interested in character, integrity, trust, and honesty. This is where through all of this that Obama has come up very short.

    I am going back through my posts and comments from the past year because we all have a short memory and forget the concerns, questions, and answers we asked weeks ago and as far back as when the campaign started. I think it is time to revisit these as we approach the convention.

    Matthew

  • Nellie

    Oh a reporter. One of those in the MSM that writes iction and propaganda daily in direct contravention of what they are supposed to be doing.

    By the way, whatever you guys call the garbage you continually spew, it is technically called “propganda”, if it isn’t just raw and unfiltered news.

    After we get this convention and election mess past, we can start looking into law suits and legallities agains the “reporters” spewing propganda.

    You’d think that a minimum job requirement would be a demonstratable ability to use goole.

    Jeez

  • Ferdberfle

    Unlike you, I understand the importance of words. You use them to advance a lie; I use them to point out your lie.

  • less than gracious HRC supporter

    It’s too bad that you are too stupid to realize how stupid you are.

    Your candidate isn’t in the same league as HRC and McCain. I hope this sports reference isn’t too racist for you, but think of HRC and McCain as being in the Major League and Soetero as being in the Little League. There is THAT much of a difference.

    Get over it.

    PUMA

  • Ferdberfle

    Fifteen years in Public Relation for a Fortune 500 company.

    So, in essence, you bent the truth for a living.

  • Ferdberfle

    My sincere apologies for the previous post. I was remiss. What I meant to say instead of “bent the truth” was “pummeled the truth into submission”. Mea culpa.

  • Ferdberfle

    Nice analogy and appropriate, too.

  • WildChild

    my above post was for that crazy troll that got scrubbed.

  • se

    I’m all about the truth. But the truth would require some sort of documentation.

    Well, for myself, being able to get confirmation from Daniel Amon will be sufficient.

    Even the email quoted in your link isn’t documented as it has no identifying headers or footers to link it to the person or agency it is claimed to come from.

    Actually I’ll be asking Bob Owens for the header information.

    LOL we don’t even know who you are but you expect us to take your word on something that as yet hasn’t been documented?

    I’ve already said who I am. If you missed it, what would you like to know?

    But then they’re not going to tell you anyway so what’s the difference.

    That remains to be seen. If they deny it, then I guess we can assume Bob was lying about it.

    se

  • doctorwang

    Logistical info, huh? Hey, how’s that 100 bus caravan going? Do they have enough people registered to fill all those buses yet?

  • WildChild

    In a universe of one… LOL you are God

  • Retired

    If Obama were an Indonesian citizen, would he have had to register for the U.S. Selective Service? Perhaps that’s why he didn’t register. After all, he was traveling on an Indonesian passport.

  • http://cws7171dB dorianb

    Uppity Woman:

    Why isn’t this information and the eight questions in the mainstream news? Very few people know about this. dorianb

  • QUEENIE

    HEY Skiron.. do you practice propaganda much?? Or is it just utter ignorance and fantasy you practice?

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    But this is not a “whisper campaign.” Your premise is bullshit. Rather like your candidate.

    This is ASK a reasonable question, and get STONEWALLED in response.

    And not just one question, but many.

    How hard is it to clear this shit up? Not hard at all–unless you’ve something to hide.

    The man is a liar. He gets caught in lies, and then plays the “misstated” game. He lies down with Rezko dogs. He’s a crook.

    We don’t like him. Get that through your head.

    Why are you here?

    You’re getting nowhere, you know.

    If you really “believed” in that Hope and Change bullshit, you’d be out working FOR your candidate, not snarking about in an opposition site.

    You will never change a heart or mind. All you will do is firm up resolve.

    Now, if you are working for McCain, you’re doing a heckuvajob, there Brownie.

  • less than gracious HRC supporter

    I adopted my new moniker today in ‘honor’ of Nancy’s comments.

    I agree that HRC has been more than gracious. Perhaps too gracious. I hope this has been part of HRC’s game plan. She is so strong.

    PUMA.

  • Ferdberfle

    Don’t you have some malpractice suits to respond to, drwanker?

  • se

    You’re welcome.

    se

  • Ferdberfle

    Do you get your news from the voices in your head or from that chip Axelrod had put in you? Oh, they’re the same thing. Never mind.

  • se

    “I’m a troll simply because I answer people’s questions and post my own opinions?”
    According to PUMA bylaws – yes, you are. Sorry

    Well hell.

    Ah well. Won’t be the worst thing I’ve been called.

    se

  • doctorwang

    “Curiously enough, there is no record of McCain’s birth in the Panama Canal Zone Health Department’s bound birth registers, which are publicly available at the National Archives in College Park. A search of the “Child Born Abroad” records of the U.S. consular service for August 1936 included many U.S. citizens born in the Canal Zone but did not turn up any mention of John McCain.”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/01/AR2008050103224.html

    What’s McCain hiding (if that is his real name). Why hasn’t he disputed the rumors that he was once a Druid? Let’s see his birth certificate ONLINE so we can all have some fake experts show how badly forged it is!!! He’s running for POTUS!! We deserve to know the truth so we can accurately distort it!!!

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    What have I lied about?

  • doctorwang

    Absolutely.

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    There you go with the “you people” shit again.

    You’re the one making fun of of symbols that are offshoots of the Christian tradition, calling them “imaginary” while at the same time trying to defend your Idol, Obama, who calls himself a committed Christian.

    And that committed Christian LIED, see? He did practice Islam as a child, he prayed in school with the rest of the children in the little mosque on school grounds, and he went to mosque (wearing his sarong, to the huge amusement of his friends, because he was a fat kid, and fat kids look funny in sarongs) with his pop, Lolo, on sufficiently frequent occasions that his friends remembered it. He is able to recite the call to prayer quite clearly.

    See, he may not be a Muslim now, but he practiced Islam as a child. Nothing wrong with that.

    What is wrong is LYING about it.
    He hasn’t “always” been a committed Christian. Committed Christians are baptised a LOT earlier than pushing thirty or more. Many are baptised at birth, or in their teens.

    See, he lied about THAT too.

    There are people who believe that lying about matters of faith constitute blasphemy. I’m not one of those.

    I think lying about matters of faith, or matters of how you were conceived, or how your father came to this country, or how he was a goatherder, when he was nothing of the sort, is closer to BULLSHITTERY than blasphemy.

    I also think saying one thing about the war, and then flipping, flopping and funding it, is BULLSHITTERY. I think someone who touts himself as a “constitutional scholar” and votes FOR FISA after PROMISING to vote against it is a pisspoor scholar. Oh, and a BULLSHITTER. And certainly a LIAR.

    But then, he graduated from the same LOUSY overpriced law school that boasts ALBERTO GONZALES as an alumni….so why should we expect better? Harvard “RNC” Law…overpriced and overhyped.

    Bullshittery–indefensible bullshittery. Those of you who ignore these things because, and ONLY because, he’s brown, and ethnic, and CUUUUUUUUUUUTE, will be in for a rude awakening when it’s your house searched, your mail opened, your phone calls recorded and placed in a JE Hoover like vault to be pawed over with amusement by future generations.

    And I’m not having any, thanks much. If I am forced to choose between two lying assholes, I will take the one with more experience.

  • IndianaDem

    I might vote for Barack Obama solely to keep rude, assertively ignorant people from having their way in November. I can think of plenty of other perfectly good reasons, but that one thing alone just might be enough.

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    I’ve been asking questions trying to understand your side and I’m getting stonewalled. I’m trying to clear up some claims that are being made here that are inaccurate. Other than my first post (probably not the smartest move), have I been rude? Have I been calling people names? No. But that is the treatment I have received.

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    Ah, MONKEY SEE, MONKEY DO. How amusing.

    You’re really in a spin, I see.

    Scared shitless!

    It’s completely understandable, though.

  • rw

    Newsflash! Obama hasn’t achieved anything, hasn’t managed anything, hasn’t been a leader anywhere. He has no, ZERO, experience with being in charge of anything. IMO, all he has are his corrupt political connections to help him cheat his way into office.

    You could say that instead of being The One, he’s actually a Big Zero.

    -there, that’s better.

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    So you’ll admit they are worthless?

  • Ferdberfle

    Bravo!

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    If this is your idea of PERFORMANCE ART…don’t quit your day job.

    Assuming you have one, and you’re not just buying your pizza and pot from the cash you get from Mom.

  • Ziggy

    Male aliens residing in the United States, including permanent residents, seasonal agricultural workers, refugees, parolees, asylees, and even illegal immigrants, are also required to register if they are between 18 and 26 years of age.

  • Ferdberfle

    Anytime you mention dishonesty, your argument collapses around you rather like your glass house. Word choice is not your strong suit, huh?

  • http://theindependentview.com Matthew Weaver

    I’d be curious to see some of these but I suspect many are not appropriate to ask for. It is a shame he’s gotten away with claiming to have not kept any senate records (good excuse for him not doing anything original and thus not having any records to show for his time).

    Anybody know what his thesis was on?

    Somewhere else somebody wrote that he never wrote anything while on the law review. Very strange.

    By the way, can folks quit already on the religious questions? Does it really matter if he was or was not raise Muslim, atheist, or whatever. As an adult he has chosen a black liberation church. Enough said. Well, except that none seemed to have talk him the ethical and moral imperatives to be honest.

    Matthew

  • LilRod

    By Dr Angelou

    “You may write me down in history
    With your bitter, twisted lies,
    You may tread me in the very dirt
    But still, like dust, I’ll rise.

    This is not the first time you have seen Hillary Clinton seemingly at her wits’ end, but she has always risen, always risen, don’t forget she has always risen, much to the dismay of her adversaries and the delight of her friends.

    Hillary Clinton will not give up on you and all she asks of you is that you do not give up on her.There is a world of difference between being a woman and being an old female. If you’re born a girl, grow up, and live long enough, you can become an old female.

    But to become a woman is a serious matter. A woman takes responsibility for the time she takes up and the space she occupies.

    Hillary Clinton is a woman. She has been there and done that and has still risen. She is in this race for the long haul. She intends to make a difference in our country.

    Hillary Clinton intends to help our country to be what it can become. She declares she wants to see more smiles in the family, more courtesies between men and women, more honesty in the marketplace.

    She is the prayer of every woman and man who longs for fair play, healthy families, good schools, and a balanced economy.

    She means to rise.

    Don’t give up on Hillary. In fact, if you help her to rise, you will rise with her and help her make this country the wonderful, wonderful place where every man and every woman can live freely without sanctimonious piety and without crippling fear.

    Rise, Hillary. Rise. ”

    -Maya Angelou, Jan 20, 2008

  • imustprotest

    Sounds like a list of folks ACORN is registering to vote for Oblahma.

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    So says the “black woman” who bears a strong resemblance to Cartman in South Park, I will wager, and whose mother has asked him THREE TIMES to take the trash out.

    Yeah, fight the power, ya pathetic pudpuller!

    Come on, do go on….we’d be lost without your invective. Let’s hear some more outrage from a rather classic Obama troll/supporter–you’re really showing us your Team Colors!

    Every hit you give this site helps the siteowner, too…so keep it up, “Sistah.”

    Bwahahahahahaha!

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    If that’s all you know about him I recommend you learn more about him. He’s not a bad guy, after college he could have become a big time lawyer making a lot of money but he chose to be a community organizer making just enough to get by. He is nothing like Bush. He didn’t grow up ultra-privileged, his GPA was double Bush’s. He is an economic scholar, Bush was a failed business man. A good leader can compromise with the opposition, for example, Lincoln surrounded himself with his political rivals. Also, the silly names for Barack aren’t necessary. I’ve never referred to Hillary by a silly name, it’s childish.

  • http://theindependentview.com Matthew Weaver

    No, there are at least two different sources, even referenced in this thread and on other sites, such as TPM that claim this but these are very suspicious to say the least. They claim, contrary to well established privacy regulations that Selective Service employees divulged Obama’s alleged registration. This didn’t come from Obama, nor with his apparent approval; thus I suspect fraud on the part of the posters claiming this information or illegal disclosure on the part of the government workers disclosing it. Anyway, no proof shown thus question still outstanding.

    Matthew

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    And before anyone says it, no I am not trying to say Barack is of Abe Lincoln stature.

  • http://theindependentview.com Matthew Weaver

    Yes, it should more broadly stated.

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    Barack Obama has passed more progressive legislation in his lifetime than Hillary Clinton. As an Illinois Senator he passed over 200 of the bills he wrote. These bills include:
    1. A bill that expanded healthcare to over 100,000 people in Illinois.
    2. A bill that set up community health centers to serve underserved populations.
    3. A bill that provided the earned income tax credit to thousands of Illinois families.
    4. A bill that reformed the death penalty that had sent innocent people to death row
    5. A bill that banned gifts and meals from lobbyists.

    While in the US senate he has passed:

    1. A bill with Senator Richard Lugar which bans the development of nuclear weapons.
    2. A bill that created a public database where average Americans can see how the government is spending their money.
    3. A bill that provided important assistance to address the situation in the Congo.
    4. A bill that Nancy Pelosi calls “one of the toughest ethics reform” bills in this history of the Congress.”

  • ziggy

    I have yet to see any solid basis for questioning Barack Obama’s character, integrity, trustworthiness, or honesty. All I’ve seen so far is steady stream of defamatory allegations, all without a without a shred of credible supportive evidence, and continuous negative commentary that is actually nothing more than strongly biased opinion.

    It isn’t incumbent upon Brack Obama to disprove every allegation leveled against him. The burden of proof is on those who make unfounded allegations. I’m still waiting. I’ve yet to see proof #1.

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    I’m voting for Sistah Cynthia there, pudpuller!

    Seems you got all hot under the collar with a LOT of people, based on a wrong premise.

    Or is your shift over, and that is why you’re “giving up?”

    You’ve made enough for a pizza, at twenty five cents a post! Hard work, though, innit?

    Oh, and mom STILL wants you to take out the trash…it’s probably too late to mow the lawn, but you can walk the dog to earn your allowance.

    Next time you try this, don’t pretend to be a black woman. It’s painfully obvious that you’re not. You just make an ass of yourself when you attempt “characters” like that–at least do a little more research beyond old SHAFT flims and the JEFFERSONS before you attempt to create a one-dimensional character with a big ass “fro” to serve as your internet mouthpiece, there, you poor pathetic thing.

    Have a nice day, thanks for your patronage. It’s always nice to be able to clearly guage the level of desperation coming from Coronation Central.

    The siteowner, I am sure, is grateful for all the hits, too! Ka-ching!

  • Louise

    It

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    Cite one source for your claims. You make accusations but you don’t back it up with anything substantive. I’m not voting for Barack because “he’s brown, and ethnic, and CUUUUUUUUUUUTE,” I’m voting for him because he is, in my opinion the best candidate. Stop talking down to me like I’m some kind of fool and give me some reasons Barack is a horrible guy.

  • TeakwoodKite

    Learn something new everyday, Nellie.

    If I understand you correctly the odds of Lolo enrolling Barry in school under false pretense are slim to none?

    My sane half doubts of the verasity of the facts of school ledger. I mentioned that there were first hand accounts ….She thinks Lolo lied…

  • http://theindependentview.com Matthew Weaver

    Just try commenting on TPM! Within five minutes someone will post a racist or derogatory comment. My open question is whether they are truly that boorish or are they paid to do so.

  • catherine

    Can you count Ziggy? One year in the senate and this man is running for POTUS. Do you think his experience is such that he will have the depth of knowledge needed to be cautious and reflective on the serious and COMPLEX issues of our time? From what I have seen so far I have seen a lot of political posturing, flip flopping, and not much substance or track record on much of anything. That is not bias- that is fact. He may be technically qualified (and now that is questionable) but I for one would not want to place my economic future nor my family’s safety and security in this man’s hands. I think you are very misguided if you think this man has the answers. He is an empty political suit and one day you will wish you paid more attention to this man’s qualifications and work history rather than his pie in the sky rhetoric.

  • TeakwoodKite

    Is that a “corn” or are just letting your cell phone do it’s thing?

  • http://safari AnnieCarmel

    Hey Nancy, You’re not the boss of me and you just better get over it. Give it a rest. It’s a done deal and you made the wrong call. Soon you’ll be just another congressperson and not head of the House.

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    That young man you are replying to is NOT BLACK, and clearly not a woman.

    That is a fat, white, pimpled, pudpulling lad in momma’s basement with the box set of SHAFT films. He pulled them out when he heard that Isaac Hayes (Damn right, hush yo’ mouth! Can ya dig it?) died, and he’s been infused and imbued with “the spirit.” I wonder which one of Shaft’s many ladies inspired him? He’s probably got a couple of early Pam Grier IS ….FOXY BROWN DVDs as well.

    All this asinine talk about “fros” and “mofos” and “blackness” is straight out of Blaxploitation central casting….circa 1970. It’s one of the most clumsy and offensive internet representations I’ve seen. EVER.

    He would have been better off going for the more well known “Internet Tough Guy.” At least he’s got the sweaty balls to go with that character.

    Or maybe not….!

  • Katmoon

    There is neither honesty, manhood or good fellowship in thee.
    You tread upon my patience

  • Nellie

    Well Skiron,

    Google the “Killing Fields of Kenya”.

    Obama

    1. Went there in Aug 2006, and campaigned for Cousin Odinga on US Taxpayer money.

    2. In 2007, Odinga came to US and Obama had someone set up Odinga’s web site which bears a strange resemblance to Obama’s and even has “Hope and Change” all over it. Then he sent Dick Morris over there and also provided Odinga with a Million Dollars from sources unknown so Cousin Raila Odinga could have a blow out cmapaign. Odinga lost the elction.

    3. There was ethinic cleansing and the most horrific crimes against humanaity I have ever read about. Odinga managed to surpass even Hitler and Stalin in atrocities. These crimes were committed by Odinga and Obama’s Kenyan tribe.

    4. Obama then sends Dick Morris back for a few days. First Obama tries to get Bishop Tutu to negotiate, but Tutu has too much class and ethical backbone and he declined to get invovled with Obama’s travesty.

    5. Obama then contacts Kofi Annan to negotiate and make his cousin “Prime Minister” of Kenya. In exchange Annan wants the “Global Poverty Bill” passed for Africa.

    6. So instead Of Obama’s cousin be hauled off to the Hague for the heinous atrocities, Obama forces Mbeki, who had been a US ally for 45 years, to accept the butcher of Kenya as his prime minister.

    7 About 2 months ago Congress passes Annan’s request of “Global Poverty Bill which will cost US taxpayers 48 BILLION dollars.

    And in the interim over 4, million people have lost there homes in the USA, food pantries are overwhelmed because the working poor cannot afford food for families, and of course Gas has doubled in price. Add to that over half the increasing number of homeless are Vets.

    And you see no consequences of Obama’s DIVIDED loyalties? All this, while Americans suffer is just really okay with you?
    You can google to find out everything stated above is total FACT!

  • Louise

    You all are deluded fools. First, YOU CANNOT LOSE AMERICAN CITIZENSHIP. Most importantly, a child’s citizenship cannot be lost because of actions by his or her parents when he is a minor. For instance, as a consular employee, I did an investigation and gave a US passport to an American adult who had been kidnapped by her Nigerian father30 years earlier. , after an aunter had given her back her US Birth Certificte.

    Your pathetic attempts to follow this line of “reasoning” shows wht pathetic, ignorant losers you are. And what idiots your “experts” are.

  • Andy

    I saw the comments ; they are brutally angry and derogatory. You obviously hit a nerve. But their logic is so flawed that’s sad they are so poor…. I don’t have an account there and frankly I detest TPM, HP, DK and all those…

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    He just can’t tear himself away.

    He’s slipping, though. Doesn’t sound like a black woman anymore. More like “English as a second language” at this stage.

    Perhaps the second shift has taken over the persona!

  • Katmoon

    Though you bite so sharp at reasons, you are so empty of them

  • heather

    aka car bomb … love it! :)

  • street_parade

    Brilliant idea!

    I’m making some up right now. No images just the words: Who is Barry Soetoro? in 72pt verdana bold. Very effective, I think I’m going to add…and who sent him?

  • Ferdberfle

    For instance, as a consular employee,

    Do other instances include your stint as a shuttle pilot, too?

  • http://theindependentview.com Matthew Weaver

    I think McCain is doing a good job at neutralizing this. Plus, he’s got the advantage of seeing how this worked against Clinton. Anyway, I think Obama and his cult following are wearing this out by yelling fire too often–usually as a bullying criticism to silence dissent.

    Speaking for myself, I am comfortable knowing that I am not, nor have I ever been racist so folks can say whatever they want because it doesn’t scare me and won’t stick because it is untrue.

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    Overseas contributions are not from military personnel. Sorry to disabuse you.

    Military personnel have CONUS-based APO and FPO addresses, not OVERSEAS ones. Their addresses will track back to places like NY and San Francisco, not … oh, GAZA.

    Money coming in from overseas is coming from people who don’t have a military affiliation or a military address. After all, why spend two bucks mailing a letter when you can do it APO or FPO for forty two cents? And when you’re paid in dollars, you don’t donate in Euros or riyals….

    Your dog is not hunting.

  • heather

    Small list … only a beginning:

    He won’t/can’t talk to the public in any substantive way. He fumbles and goes “uh….” or he waves them off saying “go read it on my web site.” If he’s that uncommunicative while running, how’s he gonna be as president? This impression is supported by the reports of Senate colleagues (he’s not really a cross-the-aisle type or even much of a collaborator). It’s also consistent with comments from Dems who say his campaign is very “insular”.

    His speeches are empty platitudes mostly stolen from others (not his own words). “We are the ones we’ve been waiting for” was stolen from Alice Walker and really doesn’t mean anything . “Words, just words?” was stolen from Gov. Patrick of MA (or they both stole it from Axelrod). He quotes the U.S. penny (“E pluribus unum”, “from the many, one”) with the stentorian tones of a greek god, assuming (correctly I’m afraid) that his devotees will not notice that he’s plagiarizing coinage.

    He’s a phoney who cares only about his image. He fakes a MLK accent when speaking to some audiences, and talks like Dave Chappelle parodying a white person when when speaking to others. Meanwhile NO ONE knows where he really stands, because he keeps changing his views and votes on everything.

    He used horrible, evil racial tactics to take out the Clintons in the primaries. Everything above could potentially be forgiven or seen beyond, but not this one. It’s a deal breaker. The guy is a snake.

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    Well, yes, you CAN lose American citizenship, if you travel on a passport other than a US one and renounce your affiliation with the US, and declare allegiance to another country.

    It happens all the time. Didn’t Marc Rich get his stripped from him?

    No one is worried about BHO’s citizenship, though. So reach back and get those drawers outta your crack and settle down, there.

    He’s got US citizenship. What’s at issue is what OTHER citizenship he might have. What’s at issue are his NAME CHANGES–did he get a legal name change, did he then get ANOTHER legal name change? Are birth certificates under seal?

    If he did get his name changed, why did he lie when he obtained his law license?

    Calling people “idiots” and “losers” isn’t terribly helpful, there, Earnestine Louise. It’s those sorts of “pathetic” comments that reflect more on you than anyone else.

    We’re saying NO, YOU CAN’T. Too bad if you don’t happen to like it. Get over it. Get over yourself. All the footstomping and pouting in the world isn’t going to shift us.

    We don’t like your lying candidate, and we never will. And we’ll continue to insist that he tell the truth.

    This won’t go away, so keep stomping that foot. Don’t break a bone, now!

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    As I’ve said though, CITE your sources don’t just say it. I want actual evidence of your claims.

    I think Barack was pretty communicative and handle this situation well:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-Se6E4uZhs

    He’s not some bumbling idiot. I’ve never noticed the different voices thing before, I’ll listen for it. I think that a politician being flexible is a good thing. Bush never changes his mind based on how things are going and look at how that’s turned out. I don’t remember seeing any racial tactics used against the Clintons, refresh my memory.

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  • ming the merciless

    I’m a Regular Army Vietnam vet who spent a year on the ground. I gave my country a total of almost 30 years of service. Don’t presume to lecture me about patriotism.

    People who hate a candidate I currently choose to support spend endless hours pushing lies and rumors about the man. His status as an American is a big favorite. He’s suppose to prove what you expect to be taken for granted. He’s suppose to prove it by revealing even more personal information about himself that can become the subject of your irrational attacks.

    Barack Obama was born in Hawaii. His mother was a natural born citizen. THEREFORE, Barack Obama is a natural born citizen. One cannot be more a citizen than that. Yet the bullshit rolls out endlessly, day after day, week after week, month after month–seldom unaccompanied by additional insult.

    Yet one playful little tug on your chain, one similar comment about John McCain, and you go totally apeshit, waving the flag around like you and yours own it and launching insults.

    I will say this as politely as possible, under the circumstances: Bugger off.

  • TeakwoodKite

    tzada, just curious…

    Are you saying Americans where “illegal” in Pakastan in 1981? How might have he broken the law in that case?

    I get the issue of which Passport was used…

    If Barry traveled as an adult the meme of him “being just a kid” goes right out the window…

    What I want to know is if he ever surrendered his Indonesian passport or if it was ever renewed. Am I correct, from my reading, that Indonesia require a citizen to “checkin” every 3 years?
    —–
    Slightly of topic; it would be really great if he would change his name back to Barry Soetoro. Then the MSM could finally start spelling Osama Bin Laden correctly instead of ‘Usama’ on the ticker… Obama…Usama…

    Thanks.

  • Elle

    I agree, people have “to think outside the box” when researching him and who he’s been hanging out with, some for decades.

    It helps to be a little creative and persistent, when the MSM and even Google is in bed with him. But it pays off :-) It really does.

    Obama’s real religion is reparations, not Islam, not Christianity. That’s his real passion. His world view is informed by this.

    He flip flops on so many issues because he doesn’t have very strong opinions about them, he could take either or both sides of those issues.

    His flip-flopping might make him looking clueless but he’s not stupid. He is dangerous.

  • Ferdberfle

    It isn’t incumbent upon Brack Obama to disprove every allegation leveled against him. The burden of proof is on those who make unfounded allegations. I’m still waiting. I’ve yet to see proof #1.

    He’s the one running for office, half-wit. It is incumbent on him. You can’t spin your way out of this one.

  • Katmoon

    No our site, you bugger off.

  • PewL

    Oreily had an interesting show,,They mentioned two names Oprah,and Nancy p/ They didn’t have to say why they mentioned the two names. Because it was quite obvious,they were talking VP for Obama.They did mention Nancy P has a worst rating than Bush.If Clinton says goodbye to delegates on Tuesday nite,and they announce the VP on Wednesday nite.I can see Clinton taking a fall again,only for Pelosi.. This sounds like another set up,by the Dems to stop Clinton in her tracks..If Pelosi is the VP with Obama,or even with Clinton, I will stop watching it. It wouldn’t surprise me,if Clinton,ends up being the nominee, she had to take Pelosi as her running mate… This is pure BS if I’m right.

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    Bwahahahahahaha!

    It’s certainly more creative than “trim black woman with a fro” or the classic Special Forces version of Internet Tough Guy!

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    You don’t know your Constitution very well, do you?

    Cheney, quite sneakily and sleazily, but entirely LEGALLY, changed his state of residence to the state that he represented in Congress, and where he still owned a home, to LEGALLY get around that little problem. He did it ahead of time, too.

    Don’t bring up a pisspoor example to try to make your case. Cheney’s actions were scuzzy, but LEGAL.

    It’s not a nitpick or even a real issue when it’s LEGAL, see?

    Try calling out a dog that will hunt, next time.

  • Ferdberfle

    or the classic Special Forces version of Internet Tough Guy!

    Would you be referring to free-dumb fighter?

    ROFL

  • http://theindependentview.com Matthew Weaver

    I’ve been putting up with the BS from the Dear Leader’s cult following over at TPM for many, many months. It is no reason to not stand by your words and actions. I will not cower because someone doesn’t like what I think or say.

  • Garfield

    Ridiculing people one disagrees with is the lowest form of argument. Obama’s camp has already lost the debated based on this reaction. Obama minions are acting irrational over the book.

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    Really? Then you’ve gouged out BOTH your eyes?

    He’s lied to you, about his support for the war that he votes to fund, about FISA, that he said he would not support but did, about where he was conceived (SELMA–they must have used a time machine), about all sorts of things, big and small. He barely knew Rezko, didn’t have sex with Wright, oops, different scandal, but Wright wasn’t the reverend HE knew (even though he copied the name of his book off of the guy), and he threw everyone who told an inconvenient truth about him, including grandma, who kept her mouth shut, under his bus.

    So, if you’re not seeing it, you’re blind. And there’s none so blind as those who will not see.

  • Barry

    And then he can throw himself with them.

  • http://theindependentview.com Matthew Weaver

    I’m not convinced about reparations but I think you nail him perfectly when you write:

    He flip flops on so many issues because he doesn’t have very strong opinions about them, he could take either or both sides of those issues.

    His flip-flopping might make him looking clueless but he’s not stupid. He is dangerous.

  • ziggy

    So what are you saying? That you believe he lacks experience and changes positions depending upon which way the winds of public opinion are blowing? Fine. Say that. It’s your opinion and I respect it.

    But that’s not all that’s being said, is it? And that’s not what I was talking about, was it?

    He’s a Muslim.
    He’s a racist.
    He’s a misogynist.
    He’s a terrorist sympathizer.
    He’s not a U.S. citizen.
    He’s a Chicago crook.
    He’s a drug addict.
    He’s a homosexual.
    He’s a fraud.
    He’s intellectually deficient.
    He’s morally deficient.
    He’s a narcicist.
    He doesn’t care about the troops.
    He doesn’t care about the veterans.
    He didn’t care about his Chicago constituents.
    He doesn’t care about his Illinois constituents.
    He’s a promoter of infanticide.
    He’s had various people killed to silence them.

    Have I forgotten anything?

    It’s all been here, again and again and again, either slyly implied or overtly stated. And almost always accompanied by insult.

    Then, from McCain sources, we’ve got ads pushing nothing but negative perceptions. No evidence, of course. No logical argument. Just the negative perceptions. Barack missed a hospital visit. Barack is a celebrity, just like these. Barack is going to raise your taxes, middle-income America! (That one actually goes beyond distortion into the the territory of the outright lie.) All followed by “I’m John McCain, and I endorse this ad.”

    Lots of bullshit. A veritable avalanche of bullshit.

    But like I said, I have yet to see proof #1.

    Obama supporters cruising around the internet have one simple operating principle in mind, and one simple goal.

    Defamatory lies will not go unchallenged, and

    Bullshit will not prevail over the truth.

    If the goal is met, Obama will be the next president.

    How’s that for a simple and isidious plan?

  • Ferdberfle

    Defamatory lies will not go unchallenged, and

    Bullshit will not prevail over the truth.

    If the goal is met, Obama will be the next president.

    How’s that for a simple and isidious plan?

    What a load of horse manure. You are full of yourself, aren’t you obamatron?

  • ziggy

    Nope. Not in the least. I’m no obamawhatever, either.

    My eyes are wide open. My mind is clear. And I certainly recognize the odor of manure when I smell it.

  • Katmoon

    Defamatory lies will not go unchallenged

    Political speech, first amendment, read it sometime.

  • imustprotest

    You should if you hang around camp obama you must be swimming in it!

  • imustprotest

    No Kat he’s too busy being Obama’s Superhero!!!

  • Ferdberfle

    And I certainly recognize the odor of manure when I smell it.

    Then you better get in the shower, Goob, because that crock of manure you posted above has left a stench all over you.

  • Garfield

    ziggy,
    you are one angry person. how sad your life must be.

  • Katmoon

    ~Cue the music~,Duhh ta Duhhhh

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    Hahahahaha! Oprah’s a joke–her ratings tanked after she went ‘in the tank’ for Obama.

    As for Nancy, I guess that if that happened, all of a sudden AGE would be a virtue!

    Nancy and the Ancient Mariner are close to the same vintage! She’s only three or four years behind him!

    Oh, the cognitive dissonace!

  • ziggy

    You know, with supporters like you folks it’s a small wonder that Hillary’s campaign faltered and tanked. It’s a comfort, at least, knowing that now you’re out there doing your best on behalf of John McCain.

    You really need some work on your people skills. But you’re doing just fine for now. You can tend to it after the November election.

  • Garfield

    ziggy,
    you are one angry person. you may want to consider taking a vacation from blogging or take up yoga.

  • imustprotest

    Ziggy don’t you have a cape to put on? Eyes open! Superziggy to the rescue of Obama!!!

  • Ferdberfle

    You really need some work on your people skills. But you’re doing just fine for now. You can tend to it after the November election.

    You blather on while your glass house lies shattered around you.

  • Ferdberfle

    He’s got that special new super-hero suit, which is invisible to all but him. It’s a visual no one needs, needless to say.

  • ziggy

    I am angry? I don’t seem to be angry at the moment. Of course I haven’t had FOX News on for a couple of hours.

    Like I said, I’ve yet to see proof #1.

    The insults just don’t get the job done. But please keep right on posting them if they somehow make you feel better.

  • Garfield

    i didn’t post an insult. you seem to have a difficult time when someone attempts to be kind to you.

    what an unhappy life you must have.

  • imustprotest

    Ziggy aren’t you that cartoon character that always has a dark cloud over your head? Lighten up Zig….Like Garfield said..yoga? How about a nice cup of tea before you put on your supercape to save Obama?

  • WildChild

    The thing that has impressed me most about this democratic primary is how little integrity both soeBOBO and the soeBOBOweenies have.

  • ziggy

    I have a difficult time with this sort of evasive behavior.

    No one, you will notice, has taken issue with the observation that the local perception of Barack Obama is based upon nothing more than a collection of extrememly negative assertions, none of which has ever been supported by factual evidence.

    That, of course was the entire point of my comment.

  • WildChild

    I’m pretty sure we established that soeBOBO voted for telecom immunity.

  • Andy Lewis

    This jagoff is a Martian!

  • ziggy

    Yes, we have established that, from most of our perspectives, Obama voted wrongly on FISA and on the Energy Policy Act of 2005.

    It does not follow that he’s a Muslim, a racist, a misogynist, a terrorist sympathizer, etc etc.

    Nor does not follow from a record differing by only 2 votes from Hillary Clinton’s that John McCain is the guy we want in the White House.

    Ah, well. November will come, and we’ll all finally be able to stop arguing about who should be elected. All we’ll have to worry about are the results of how we’ve actually voted.

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  • WildChild

    well his step dad was pretty sure soeBOBO was a muslim. And then there’s that pesky issue of soeBOBO having an uncertified COLB on his fight the smears web site. LOL its kinda funny that soeBOBO is” fighting the smears” with manufactured documents.

  • imustprotest

    Ha! Yes WC and isn’t the ink smeared on that faux COLB? Basically he lied about all this and more so in my book that makes him a ….well, liar.

  • june

    From the 3/6/07 NYT article written by Kristoff regarding Obama:

    “I was a little Jakarta street kid,” Obama said in a wide-ranging interview in his office (excerpts are on my blog, http://www.nytimes.com/ontheground). He once got in trouble for making faces during Koran study classes in his elementary school, but a president is less likely to stereotype Muslims as fanatics — and more likely to be aware of their nationalism — if he once studied the Koran with them. (emphasis added.)

    Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it’ll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”

    His half-brother mentioned his muslim background.

    I don’t care whether a person is a muslim, christian, jewish, or ?. I care about their character. However, I do care if someone is embarrassed to admit to their background and lies about it.

  • WildChild

    exactly IMP. and lets not forget how soeBOBOnow wants to expand George Bush’s faith program giveaways. There’s another issue that would have lost soeBOBO the primaries so it had to wait until these schmucks and the gift of few of Hillary’s delegates and a monster gift of uncommitted delegates put him over the top.

  • FranSC

    To Andy: I assure you, Lanny Davis is no way a turncoat. Davis is a Clinton loyalist period, the end. I would guarantee that the Clintons’ have instructed Davis and all their other close friends to say exactly what Davis is saying. The Clintons’ in no way can afford to have even a hint that they are going to do anything other than what they are saying.

    BUT, I also guarantee they will not do anything to stop what is being planned in their behalf. All the efforts planned will be full vindication for them, AND they will love every minute of it. So, my best thoughts are FULL STEAM AHEAD – DENVER HERE WE COME!!

  • Tony in Texas

    The McCain camp is waiting until after B. Hussein is nominated, then, “Katie bar the door”. Obama must be stopped in Denver with a Roll Call vote.

    Super Delegates hold your votes on the first ballot or we’ll all live to regret it. The DNC will be saying: “We should have gone with Hillary” when McCain wins in a landslide.

  • PewL
  • FranSC

    Very apropos’, ‘less than gracious HRC Supporter’. I figured ‘Her Graciousness’ had something to do with the new moniker.

  • Zeke

    Conservative/ Radical/ Tomato/Tomahto
    What you cannot argue away… what a 30 yr career and only one year on the ground won’t heroically grant you is this one simple fact… its the fact that will drop Barry like stone.
    John McCain will win because he’s the guy that will stop Obama. That simple …
    Sin Loi numbah ten!

  • WildChild

    It’s remarkable he showed up to vote

  • June

    WildChild,

    When trying to talk with 2 male Obama supporters today about my concerns regarding Obama, one male Obama supporter said, “Why don’t you go to Denver during the convention and lift up your blouse so people can see boobs against Obama.”

    Typical sexist Obama supporters. This is the Obama mentality.

  • Zeke

    Youpeople,
    Thank you for your unsolicited bigotry…
    henceforth when I want to derogatorily refer to Barry’s childlike understanding of the world, I shall refer to to him as being a girl.
    As in, “Your girl hasn’t got a chance…” and
    “Barry needs to man up and quit acting like a girl…” and, “Girl oh girl is it hot today!”
    I will not have perfectly useful words hijacked from my vocabulary. If you Idol worshippers say he has a “Boyish” smile, chills go up your leg. If I say his irresponsibility makes him more like a boy than a man, I am supposed to defend myself. Well, sorry ’bout that.
    I see nothing manly in his actions, history or behavior… so please, hustle off and find some folks who think the way you do. None of you Barry supporters will win any converts. If your masochism levels are low and you just want to be insulted, you can have all of that you want. We hate your Idol because we hate his utter contempt for us.
    Go the F**k away or admit that we’re getting to your boss and he’s asking for troll help.
    You suckers are the best barometer we can have that we are having a serious affect.

  • TeakwoodKite

    Since when does a “liberal” person equate money with justice?

    O

  • http://www.progressive.org/mag_reed0508 Beowulf

    Note to Jesse Jackson,

    Concerning Obama’s nuts… Don’t worry about it, the GOP will cut them of soon!

  • http://www.progressive.org/mag_reed0508 Beowulf

    Evan Bayh or Wes Clark or Ed Rendell.

    Wouldn’t mind Mayor Michael Nutter, Cong. John Lewis, BET CEO Bob Johnson, Cong. Stephanie Tubbs-Jones or even poet Maya Angelou–i.e. African Americans who stuck their necks out for HiIllary. But those choices are impractical politically.

  • http://www.progressive.org/mag_reed0508 Beowulf

    Really?

    Well, the more I dig into McCain’s background, the less I want to vote for him.

    But than again… The more I did into Obama’s background, the more I’m determined to vote for McCain.

    Cheers! :- )

  • pkat

    Everyone!!!!
    The Obamabots are here to distract you from the basic post. If they can get you to respond to them, then they can divert the impact of the origin post!!
    Don’t answer them. Do not acknowledge their presence on our website.
    Do not let them distract from the original post.

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    I’m sorry someone said something that sexist to you, but most Obama supporters aren’t like that. Trying to say that if one guy said that all of us would say that is ridiculous. That would be like getting robbed by an Asian person and then saying all Asian people are robbers.

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    You’ve been talking a lot about how horrible a person Obama is but you are yet to cite a single source. Cut out the name calling and accusations, let’s talk about the issues.

  • WildChild

    I have been. seoBOBO supported telecom immunity when he not longer needed primary votes. He’s just as pastor wright described him. seoBOBO says what he has to say.

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    Thank you PewL! The first link didn’t work unfortunately, but the video did. Now I see where this document came from. I don’t really understand how this is a big deal though. He was listed under his adopted father’s name and religion. This wasn’t a madrassa. And the first school he went to there was a catholic school.

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    Unless you’ve been living in a cave, you retarded troll (and that is not an insult, it is a description) these things I mention are a matter of VERY public record.

    Shift your fat pimpled ass, crack your pudgy little knuckles, pull up GOOGLE, and go for it. These aren’t secrets.

    His votes are a matter of record. His speech at MLK festivities in Selma, where he claimed he was conceived (in a time machine, perhaps?) are a matter of record. The goat herder bullshit is a matter of record.

    You are, little retarded troll, and again, that’s descriptive, not insulting, being what is called DELIBERATELY OBTUSE.

    You’re fishing, and desperately trying to spin people round, with your repeated requests that they provide you with links to easily retrieved information. You can take that idea and stick it up your ass, sonny. And learn to use GOOGLE, if you really want to learn (which we know you don’t, ya KoolAid guzzling putz).

    Oh, your mom is calling. She wants you to take out the garbage. AND mow the lawn. Stop pulling your pud and do your chores, or no allowance for you. This Obama Campaign Post-for-pay gig can’t be paying that much….pizza and pot cost more nowadays, what with the rising price of gas factored in!

    But the siteowner thanks you for the hits, nonetheless….ya fat little tool! Keep up the fine job, you frightened little sucker!

    ROFL….

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    Well, “Fuck off, Pudpuller!” is probably as good a way as any to point out who they are–it’s short and sweet, too.

    Other suggestions:

    “Thanks for the site hit, troll!”

    “Telegraphing your fear, I see! Be Very Afraid.”

    “Another KoolAid Drinker, Checking In!”

    It’s great to see so many of them, in one regard–it shows how truly scared they are. If they weren’t so frightened of a bunch of Democrats who don’t particularly care for their Idol, they wouldn’t be here. The fact that they are here is a good measure of the impact of the “Just Say NO–No Deal, NOBAMA, No Fucking Way!” movements.

  • PGHGal

    For the Kenyan dual citizenship question, please see http://obama.3cdn.net/a74586f9067028c40a_5km6vrqwa.pdf. It clearly shows that dual citizenship is out of the question for Obama.

    I don’t know about authenticity of the school enrollment form here. But want to share with you what it is like growing up in different parts of the world. I grew up in India (until age 12) in a Hindu family. I went to a Catholoc school, because that was the best education available. I said the Lord’s prayer, and even attended church a few time, and received mass. And that is what the other 1000 hindus attending this school did. It did not make me a Christian, and I have never claimed to be one.
    In the city I gre up in, there was also a large Muslim population. We had muslim friends, we aattended their religious ceremonies, and yes, I have been to a mosque with my friends. Again, that does not make me a muslim.
    Finally, the muslim call to prayers is sent out over loudspeakers of the mosque. Because I heard this call to prayer twice a day for many years, I can recite it. And I can also confirm that when some imam’s sing the prayer, it is the most beautiful sound when heard against the evening sunset.
    It is difficult for people who grew up in this country to understand how people can be surrounded by folks from other religions, attend and celebrate with friends from other religions, yet not adopt that religion.

  • TeakWoodKite

    If you were a real Democrat, you would fall in line!

    Can I frame this one and put it on the wall of shame?

    oe else what? ROCKS a RUCK….

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    Here’s a link to a post on my blog where I bash John McCain for his blatant sexist stance:
    http://progrev.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/john-mccain-creep/

    I take charges of sexism as seriously as I take claims of racism and I don’t like be called a sexist when I have done nothing that suggests that I am. The claim that anyone who supports Barack is a sexist is as ridiculous as the claim that anyone who doesn’t like Obama is a racist, it’s not true.
    I actually initially posted on this site think it was full of silly evangelicals, so I was surprised when Hillary supporters came after me. I didn’t realize so many of you had hard feelings about the primaries. I want you all to know I like Hillary, I really do. I think she’s a great senator, and I hope that if Obama wins he will appoint her to the Supreme Court, I think she would make an amazing justice.
    I think that a few asshole Obama supporters have managed to make the rest of us look bad. The idiots who went to the Hillary rally with posters saying “iron my shirt” or whatever it was should have had the shit kicked out of them.

  • athy

    Contact c-span
    journal@c-span.org
    ASK
    Is Sen Obama a legitimate US citizen? Is he legally able to run for president?
    Ask them to investigate.

    Include link to No Quarter coverage of this topic.
    http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/15/for-barack-obama-eight-questions/#more-4195

  • WildChild

    I honestly never thought I would meet anybody that was born yesterday. LOL here I thought it was just an expression.

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    How was I “born yesterday”?

    I’m being very respectful right now, and you’re continuing to insult me.

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    What the hell does seoBOBO mean? I want more examples of why Barack shouldn’t be our next president. One thing isn’t enough to persuade me, like I said, no candidate is going to vote the way I want them too EVERY time. Were you okay with Hillary voting for Iraq war funding? And the Iraq war in the first place? Oh and the Patriot Act?

  • WildChild

    I didn’t realize so many of you had hard feelings about the primaries.

    I hope you at least had the decency to phone the authorities closest to whichever Amish community you wondered away from and tell them you are OK. They are nice people and are probably still frantically searching for you.

  • Ferdberfle

    How was I “born yesterday”?

    I’m being very respectful right now, and you’re continuing to insult me.

    You were born yesterday as evidenced by your flights of fancy concerning Oblahblah. The junior senator, hereafter referred to as simply junior, has done nothing of substance, in spite of your quasar-like spinning to the contrary. You can dress junior jackass up in a cheap suit and call him Presidential material but he is still a jackass, and an unqualified one, at that.

    As for respectful, if you were anything like that, you would leave and pronto.

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    I knew there were Hillary supporters who were upset, but I didn’t realize there were this many, or that so many of you had no reason to dislike Obama other than your baseless claims of sexism. I think I’ve made my point here. I’ve presented evidence, you’ve presented insults and a shitty demeanor. Good luck in November, John “I called my wife the c-word” McCain is going to need it.

  • WildChild

    LOL what makes you think I’m trying to persuade you? You’re making excuses for a guy who didn’t keep his word when his word was all he had. This isn’t an issue of a politician not voting a way i would have liked. Had soeBOBO been honest back in Iowa about his support for telecom immunity, he would have lost this primary. He couldn’t be honest and win. So he lied.

  • WildChild

    He’s going to get it:)

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    I haven’t spun anything, I presented facts and all anyone here has done is present silly names and make false claims. Nothing you present could hold up in court, you have nothing on Obama so you try to make stuff up. I feel sorry for you. I presented examples of legislation he’s passed, and no one said anything because you knew I was right. There is a word Barack was chastised for using that I think describes you perfectly, BITTER.

    GOODNIGHT NOW!!

  • WildChild

    I think you made him mad ferd. He practically blinded me with his feather boa as he stomped out.

  • Papoose

    a.k.a Barak H. Obama II is a pure racist and an opportunist and he is doing everything he can to CHANGE our beautiful country into another “state” and he wants control over all your taxes no matter what category they’re in. The US Treasury is the prize, “folks”. Nothing else much matters.

    Michelle Robinson Obama will be the First Woman U.S. President in our lifetime if this charade is pulled off. She has proven her ambitions over and over again. Her man is just a pathetic guy with stinky feet and purple lips. He’d be zip without her. Just ask her.

    Ripoff.

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    Retarded troll actually doesn’t describe me, as I am not fat and I don’t live under a bridge. I run 3 miles a day, I am 5’11″ 160 pounds, hardly a fatass. I have my own apartment, and a car, just like a big boy haha. Pot prices haven’t changed for me in at least a year so that is completely inaccurate. Also, it is McCain’s campaign who is paying people to post on websites, not Obama. When I’ve tried to look up your claims, but I keep finding stuff that disputes what you’re saying. I’m not trying to “spin people round” I’m exposing inaccuracies in your argument. It’s pointless arguing with you though, it’s impossible to persuade someone who lives according to emotion rather than rational thought.

  • imustprotest

    “sigh” they always say it’s pointless but they never go away…..oh, and thanks for the you’re emotional and I’m rational “argument” how original.

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    You’re not rational though,the kind of evidence your presenting reminds me of bigfoot hunters “evidence”. Keep searching, if you need help moving to Canada after Barack wins I’d be happy to help you pack.

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    No one has yet to tell me what I lied about. Prove one thing I’ve said wrong.

  • imustprotest

    Such kind words coming from Mr. Rational….excuse me whilst I blush..hehe….and so gallant too! Oh! I must pause and sit down a spell on my fainting couch. It must be the vapors again….

  • WildChild

    Comment by J.P. Franklin | 2008-08-16 11:43:56

    GOODNIGHT NOW!!

    LOL it’s morning

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    See you have nothing, you’re just a smart ass. Learn to argue your point otherwise you look foolish, like a child covering his ears and saying “I can’t hear you, I can’t hear you!”

    Also, you have a fainting couch? Do you pass out a lot? Do you have low blood sugar?

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    Again, show me where I’ve lied. Until you can do that, stop talking, you look silly.

  • WildChild

    (ROFLMAO)

    let me make sure I understand you here. You are confused over whether it is morning or night but I’m the one who looks silly?

    (ROFLMAO)

  • imustprotest

    Thank you for your concern, kind sir. But I only use my fainting couch when my purely emotional self is confronted by the big bad rational ones such as yourself. What else is a girl to do? Besides, I have no interest in arguing with you…I just want…ch, ch,cchange….and…h,h,h,hoope….snif-snif…..

  • james

    Sure he is.

    And John McCain is exactly what we need, right? He’ll balance the budget, turn around the economy, solve the energy crisis, provide affordable health insurance, win the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, save the Social Security system, lower your taxes… All by following the same policies we’ve been following for the past 8 years!

    (Please disregard the fact that he’s the new frontman for the same fascist neoconservative organization that put George W. Bush in office, gave us the War in Iraq, and has had Iran and Russia on their “to do” list for 8 years now.)

  • WildChild

    I’m guessing since McCain has been a crusader against wasteful spending that he will balance the budget, turn around the economy, solve the energy crisis, provide affordable health insurance, win the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, save the Social Security system, lower your taxes but he won’t do it following the same policies the Bushy’s have followed. McCain will actually veto spending bills full of pork.

  • Zeke

    “And I certainly recognize the odor of manure when I smell it.”
    Your mouth IS right under your nose after all….

  • Zeke

    Kat!
    Love your quotes friend, but please, when quoting these great writers, give them credit.
    “Though you bite so sharp at reasons, you are so empty of them”
    Wm. Shakespeare

  • http://progrev.wordpress.com J.P. Franklin

    I am in fact aware of what time it is. But you’re just proving my point, you can’t argue your viewpoint based on facts, you try to make up character flaws. Your using republican tactics. Let’s talk about facts here, not this crap.

  • james

    Conservatives always talk about fiscal responsibility, cutting wasteful government spending, etc.

    That’s the talk. The problem is that it’s those same conservatives who keep running up the enormous deficits.

    The Reagan administration ran up the national debt like never before in history, breaking all records for irresponsible spending. George H. Bush followed. He did it again.

    Then came Bill Clinton, one of those damn “tax-and-spend democrats”. Oops! He balanced the federal budget. By the end of his term the nation was was running a surplus.

    Along comes George W. Bush, another “fiscal conservative”. He doubled the national debt in only 8 years, running up more debt than all previous U.S. presidents combined.

    Since McCain proposes no fiscal policy changes, why shouldn’t we assume the talk about fiscal responsibility isn’t total bullshit?

    Seriously. I can’t think of a single, solitary reason.

    http://zfacts.com/p/318.html

  • james

    BTW, while McCain is highly critical of earmarked spending appropriations–focusing particular criticism on Hillary Clinton early in the campaign–he hasn’t exactly avoided pork barrel spending himself. He just pretends to take the moral high ground by publicly condemning it.

    http://realitycheck08.org/2007/06/14/does-mccain-criticize-pork-and-bring-home-the-bacon/

  • http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/16/will-barry-soetoro-be-a-problem-for-barack/ Will Barry Soetoro Be a Problem for Barack? : NO QUARTER

    [...] For Barack Obama: Eight Questions [Update] [...]

  • doctorwang

    “I hear Jesus ain’t got nothin on the One.”

    Tsk, tsk, Donna – Taking the Lord’s name in vain?!

    Remember:

    “Don’t hate the player- hate the game”

    Gotta go now. I’ll ‘talk’ to you after the convention is over.

  • WildChild

    It’s a fact you said morning was night. That doesn’t speak to your character. But then, had you the ability to discern the time of day and accurately communicate it to others, you would know that it’s not your character that is in question here.

  • athy

    http://countusout.wordpress.com/

    Take a look at these email address directories. I obtained from http://countusout.wordpress.com/

    This is important to help us get the message out. Hundreds of email addresses…

    http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=111
    (Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting)

    And

    http://www.rumormillnews.com/MEDIA_EMAIL_ADDRESSES.htm

    http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/15/for-barack-obama-eight-questions/#more-4195

    Send this NQ link to media outlets and ask why has no one asked these eight questions of Sen Obama. List out the eight questions as per Matthew Weaver’s article…

  • Misti

    Mr. Barack Hussein Obama II. is now our president. Get over it!!

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