Comments on: The Case for Student Vouchers http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/41957/the-case-for-student-vouchers/ Sun, 27 May 2012 09:27:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: henry http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/41957/the-case-for-student-vouchers/#comment-1307028 henry Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:25:32 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=41957#comment-1307028 We Home Schooled. Mt wife did I paid for the books from Calvert School. Later we got a dell 486 for a thousand from Sam's Club.  It went very well for our daughter. We began home schooling because of daily violence against our son at school he refused to take the GED. I want to promote One lap top per child. Sugar the activities of OLPC Sugar on a stick bootable on any computer. I would like the chicago police force to have this as an option to The Chicago Board of Education which is a vessel for creating mass waves of violence. We Home Schooled. Mt wife did I paid for the books from Calvert School. Later we got a dell 486 for a thousand from Sam’s Club. 
It went very well for our daughter. We began home schooling because of daily violence against our son at school he refused to take the GED.

I want to promote One lap top per child. Sugar the activities of OLPC
Sugar on a stick bootable on any computer.

I would like the chicago police force to have this as an option to The Chicago Board of Education which is a vessel for creating mass waves of violence.

]]> By: Morgan http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/41957/the-case-for-student-vouchers/#comment-1306416 Morgan Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:40:50 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=41957#comment-1306416 I bet you didn't attend an inner-city public school. I bet you didn’t attend an inner-city public school.

]]> By: Morgan http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/41957/the-case-for-student-vouchers/#comment-1306415 Morgan Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:38:20 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=41957#comment-1306415 In other words, you don't want poor urban children to enjoy the same educational benefits your children received.  Classy. In other words, you don’t want poor urban children to enjoy the same educational benefits your children received.  Classy.

]]> By: stodghie http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/41957/the-case-for-student-vouchers/#comment-1306132 stodghie Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:21:22 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=41957#comment-1306132 larry please delete all of these posts. it was a mistake. thanks oops please leave the original of course. larry please delete all of these posts. it was a mistake. thanks

oops please leave the original of course.

]]> By: stodghie http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/41957/the-case-for-student-vouchers/#comment-1306131 stodghie Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:19:41 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=41957#comment-1306131 socalannie, i too worked in a school system. whereas mine was a decent system, i know there are issues. howvever i think we need to apply ourselves in updating our public schools. we waste so much time on these idealistic views with typically bad results. so i want the tax money used for an overall good purpose for the greater number of people. socalannie, i too worked in a school system. whereas mine was a decent system, i know there are issues. howvever i think we need to apply ourselves in updating our public schools.

we waste so much time on these idealistic views with typically bad results. so i want the tax money used for an overall good purpose for the greater number of people.

]]> By: socalannie http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/41957/the-case-for-student-vouchers/#comment-1306080 socalannie Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:32:36 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=41957#comment-1306080 My husband has seen a lot of fraud, pathetically poor schools, and lots of criminal activity, while working for the 2nd largest school district in America.  California and Los Angeles pour billions into this mess.  My husband has seen a lot of fraud, pathetically poor schools, and lots of criminal activity, while working for the 2nd largest school district in America.  California and Los Angeles pour billions into this mess. 

]]> By: socalannie http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/41957/the-case-for-student-vouchers/#comment-1306077 socalannie Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:27:41 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=41957#comment-1306077 moderator, can you please remove all my extra posts?  I have no idea why it did this.  Ever since the comment change, I've had a hard time posting here. So sorry for all the posts! moderator, can you please remove all my extra posts?  I have no idea why it did this.  Ever since the comment change, I’ve had a hard time posting here.

So sorry for all the posts!

]]> By: socalannie http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/41957/the-case-for-student-vouchers/#comment-1306057 socalannie Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:58:31 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=41957#comment-1306057 My husband works for the 2nd largest school district in the country.  Their budget in in the billions, more than most state budgets.  They waste tons of $ on nonsense, have a huge middle management layer that spend their days making up forms & repetitious paperwork for other employees to fill out, I could go on & on.  The point is, we all contribute to public education whether we use it or not, which is fine, but public education does not meet the needs of many students.  Those of you who who are happy with the public education you grew up with, great, & I am very happy for you, (personally I found my public education to be a handicap and think I would've done better in life if I'd had other learning opportunities), but since so many billions of education $ are completely wasted, why not cut the waste and use some of the $ to enable parents to make the best choice for their kids.  I don't at all understand the enthusiasm in this thread for the cookie cutter education for all.  (A lot of the stuff I was taught in the 60's & 70's in public school was crap, falsified history, etc)  Children are individuals, with different needs and strengths.  The percentage of special needs kids (autism, etc) has risen dramatically since we were all young and in school.  Non public education alternatives work well for these kids, I've seen many examples of this personally as a homeschool mom who is part of a large thriving homeschool group.  Well educated, well <i>adjusted</i> children will grow into responsible tax paying adults (which is what we baby boomers will need in our golden years!).  Personally, I think exploring alternative education is worth America's best effort.  We have fallen behind because the "one-size-fits-all" mentality does not work.  Lastly, I have several cousins who have lived their entire lives in Milwaukee.  Their kids, and grandkids, are doing superbly with the education system there.  LD is right, it is worth examining.  My husband works for the 2nd largest school district in the country.  Their budget in in the billions, more than most state budgets.  They waste tons of $ on nonsense, have a huge middle management layer that spend their days making up forms & repetitious paperwork for other employees to fill out, I could go on & on.  The point is, we all contribute to public education whether we use it or not, which is fine, but public education does not meet the needs of many students.  Those of you who who are happy with the public education you grew up with, great, & I am very happy for you, (personally I found my public education to be a handicap and think I would’ve done better in life if I’d had other learning opportunities), but since so many billions of education $ are completely wasted, why not cut the waste and use some of the $ to enable parents to make the best choice for their kids.  I don’t at all understand the enthusiasm in this thread for the cookie cutter education for all.  (A lot of the stuff I was taught in the 60′s & 70′s in public school was crap, falsified history, etc)  Children are individuals, with different needs and strengths.  The percentage of special needs kids (autism, etc) has risen dramatically since we were all young and in school.  Non public education alternatives work well for these kids, I’ve seen many examples of this personally as a homeschool mom who is part of a large thriving homeschool group.  Well educated, well adjusted children will grow into responsible tax paying adults (which is what we baby boomers will need in our golden years!).  Personally, I think exploring alternative education is worth America’s best effort.  We have fallen behind because the “one-size-fits-all” mentality does not work.  Lastly, I have several cousins who have lived their entire lives in Milwaukee.  Their kids, and grandkids, are doing superbly with the education system there.  LD is right, it is worth examining. 

]]> By: stodghie http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/41957/the-case-for-student-vouchers/#comment-1306006 stodghie Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:13:54 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=41957#comment-1306006 idealism is a wonderful thing but it won't get a child a quality education. and why should they get special preference and even more of our money with typically no good results. i say this having been a teacher and witnessed all this. also i was chairman of the board of a nonprofit. idealism is a wonderful thing but it won’t get a child a quality education. and why should they get special preference and even more of our money with typically no good results. i say this having been a teacher and witnessed all this. also i was chairman of the board of a nonprofit.

]]> By: stodghie http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/41957/the-case-for-student-vouchers/#comment-1306005 stodghie Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:10:37 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=41957#comment-1306005 fankly larry, it is the low income charter schools that have the largest theft and graft. sorry that argument doesn't fly. fankly larry, it is the low income charter schools that have the largest theft and graft. sorry that argument doesn’t fly.

]]> By: lark http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/41957/the-case-for-student-vouchers/#comment-1305997 lark Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:52:10 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=41957#comment-1305997 How so? Wouldn't the students receive a role? Wouldn't the recieved role specify the dependent nature of the person on the government for its wellbeing? Wouldn't the parental role change completely?  How so?

Wouldn’t the students receive a role?

Wouldn’t the recieved role specify the dependent nature of the person on the government for its wellbeing?

Wouldn’t the parental role change completely? 

]]> By: Doc99 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/41957/the-case-for-student-vouchers/#comment-1305984 Doc99 Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:15:38 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=41957#comment-1305984 Vouchers would put the focus in education back where it belongs - On the Students. Vouchers would put the focus in education back where it belongs – On the Students.

]]> By: PA Caucasian http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/41957/the-case-for-student-vouchers/#comment-1305946 PA Caucasian Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:20:27 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=41957#comment-1305946 Yes. Yes.

]]> By: PA Caucasian http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/41957/the-case-for-student-vouchers/#comment-1305945 PA Caucasian Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:17:57 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=41957#comment-1305945 I don't agree with your assessment of who most vociferously supports the use of education vouchers. What I do know is that Philadelphia's Catholic schools' enrollment includes 50% students who are not Catholic. Their parents do not send them to Catholic school in order to be indoctrinated in the ways of the faith. They pay extra tuition so their children can be taught in a safe environment, one which does not require armed police walking the halls, or metal detectors at all the entrances. These parents are not necessarily fanatical religionists or libertarians, they just don't want a call in the middle of the day to go identify their child in the city morgue. <a href="http://www.thenotebook.org/spring-2005/05689/high-schools-looking-alternatives-more-police" rel="nofollow">http://www.thenotebook.org/spring-2005/05689/high-schools-looking-alternatives-more-police</a> <em>Some 450 personnel work as full-functioning, uniformed school police officers. The other 250 are "per diem" officers who receive about half the training and who chiefly assist on safety-related issues. They are currently part of daily staffing in the District's schools.</em> <em>Each high school is also equipped with a walk-through metal detector, a conveyor-belted x-ray machine that scans book bags and purses, and security cameras that schools can opt to use.</em> The article opens with the statistic of 2500 incidents reported in one year, and two murders. I don’t agree with your assessment of who most vociferously supports the use of education vouchers. What I do know is that Philadelphia’s Catholic schools’ enrollment includes 50% students who are not Catholic. Their parents do not send them to Catholic school in order to be indoctrinated in the ways of the faith. They pay extra tuition so their children can be taught in a safe environment, one which does not require armed police walking the halls, or metal detectors at all the entrances. These parents are not necessarily fanatical religionists or libertarians, they just don’t want a call in the middle of the day to go identify their child in the city morgue.

http://www.thenotebook.org/spring-2005/05689/high-schools-looking-alternatives-more-police

Some 450 personnel work as full-functioning, uniformed school police officers. The other 250 are “per diem” officers who receive about half the training and who chiefly assist on safety-related issues. They are currently part of daily staffing in the District’s schools.
Each high school is also equipped with a walk-through metal detector, a conveyor-belted x-ray machine that scans book bags and purses, and security cameras that schools can opt to use.

The article opens with the statistic of 2500 incidents reported in one year, and two murders.

]]> By: Dave http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/41957/the-case-for-student-vouchers/#comment-1305942 Dave Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:08:31 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=41957#comment-1305942 Remember the old saying, "Those that can't, teach ?" Teachers should not be allowed to unionize, incompetent teachers are protected by unions.  I would not send a child to public school, if I had to work 3 jobs to send my kids to Catholic or privte schools, I would do it.  Arizona has the 49th or 50th worst schools in the nation, they flip flop with Mississippi every other year.  You have La Raza dictating to the schools that students need to be taught Spanish, (its not really Spanish, its Mexican border slang), as long as you have outside interference, and morons running the administration part of the school system, you will graduate idiots.  That is if they hang around long enough to grqaduate !! Remember the old saying, “Those that can’t, teach ?” Teachers should not be allowed to unionize, incompetent teachers are protected by unions.  I would not send a child to public school, if I had to work 3 jobs to send my kids to Catholic or privte schools, I would do it. 
Arizona has the 49th or 50th worst schools in the nation, they flip flop with Mississippi every other year.  You have La Raza dictating to the schools that students need to be taught Spanish, (its not really Spanish, its Mexican border slang), as long as you have outside interference, and morons running the administration part of the school system, you will graduate idiots.  That is if they hang around long enough to grqaduate !!

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