Palin, Intellectual Lightweight [UPDATED]

Yes, I believe he is a lightweight.  ”57 states” or “speaking Arabic in Afghanistan.”  Just two quick examples.  The fact that he is incapble of fully and competently taking down the Republicans for their bogus attack on providing “Miranada Rights” to someone arrested on US territory tells me he is shallow.

I real leader with keen intellect would use this as a teaching moment, explaining what the Constitution means.  No luck.  

I think a couple of notes on her hand is OK compared to someone who always has to use a teleprompter. 

With respect, I think the major example you cited would fall under the category of political skill… not intellectual capacity.

Whereas the vibe given off by Ms. Palin — even without the crib notes on her hand (goodness gracious!) — constantly calls into question the depth and breadth of her intellect.

Sarah sure does kick up the dust, doesn’t she?

    Tried to watch Hardball and lasted about 3 minutes. Chris and his two buddy’s tearing Sarah apart because of 7 or 8 words on her palm and they see no difference between that and BO reading his entire speech on Pres-Tele.. But then why ask me, I got to see Avatar last night and all I have to say is Joe Biden you are finally correct don’t waste your dollars “the worst”. But to the more serious, had she been dictator for 2 years starting 1 yr ago we might have oil towers growing around the coast where rich people might have to see them, and then when BO took over at year 3 he might at least on the futures market have something to increase our exports by 50% in 4 years.
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    Tried to watch Hardball and lasted about 3 minutes. Chris and his two buddy’s tearing Sarah apart because of 7 or 8 words on her palm and they see no difference between that and BO reading his entire speech on Pres-Tele.. But then why ask me, I got to see Avatar last night and all I have to say is Joe Biden you are finally correct don’t waste your dollars “the worst”. But to the more serious, had she SP, been dictator for 2 years starting 1 yr ago we might have oil towers growing around the coast where rich people might have to see them, and then when BO took over at year 3 he might at least on the futures market have something to increase our exports by 50% in 4 years.  

It was symbolic. She could remember that. It will spark a discussion of “teleprompterus presidentus”. Will nobody give her a damn break?

UCB,
Welcome back.  Always good to hear from you. 

Let’s stick with the intellectual skill.  Obama takes pride in his stint as a law school professor teaching the Constitution.  Yet, when faced with false and misleading Republican political attacks on him “criminalizing terrorism,” he utterly fails to offer a cogent, powerful public explanation of why it is important to do what his Adminsitraiton did.  Instead, he’s a whiner.  Hides behind what Bush did, when it suits him, and then blames Bush, when convenient.

I’m a firm believer in common sense and intellectual heft.

I think I like that part about her the best!  SAraCuda is quite the powerhouse and unless you’ve spent the last few years “really watching and reading her” then you would never discount her ability to champion for this country.  Of that I am sure. 

Dear Lady,
Writing on one’s hand is low tech teleprompter.  She made a point of mocking Obama for his over-reliance on Totus.  I thought it was a fair criticism.  However, she shoots her credibility when she has to remind herself what her “big” points are by writing on her palm.  It is a big deal in my book.

I really see little in the way of intellectual capacity in Obambi either.  No political skill, no intelligence really.  I never even saw any of the charisma everyone seemed to think he oozed.  The man and his ego makes my skin crawl every time I see him.

Sarah Palin’s intellect is the kind you develop as you grow up dealing with people who are more like the average American worker.  Obambi’s inltellect is the kind you develop in the rarified air of left-wing academia.

I think that part was as big a joke as everyone knows when they think of SARAH they think of energy!  I don’t think she had to remind her self of it but to make sure AMERICA remembers what her value is………. jmo  thanks for the debate (we’ll see in time)

Completely agree. Palin is an intellectual lightweight

Palin is very bright and savvy.  Everyone seems to want to compare her to Hillary Clinton which really isn’t fair.  Hillary Clinton is not only brilliant, scary smart, she has conviction and a strong work ethic.  Politicians like Hillary Clinton come along not once in a generation, but once in several generations.  Hillary even surpasses Bill Clinton!  Is Sarah Hillary Clinton?  No, but who is?  She sure is a damn sight better than Barack Obama and most of the so-called Democrats and Republicans in congress now!….Youbetcha!

For now, Sarah is making some money which I’m sure her family can use.
She is a mother of young children, one a special needs child.
Time is on her side. She can develop her political skills as her family becomes more mature and independent.
It’s her choice, and from what I have seen so far, she doesn’t shy away from a challenge!
The 2012 date is media driven.

Yes, for such a lightweight, she has everyone gnawing and gnashing at her.

I was a member of “speaker’s bureau for years, and yes, writing notes on your hand was acceptable. But let’s get past that. I find it funny that we’re comparing a private citizen and her speech with the President of the US and his speeches. That alone ought to tell you something. I’ll take the “crib” notes on the hand and speaking for over 40 minutes without a teleprompter long before I’ll take a CIC taking TOTUS with him everywhere, including to a grade school. That was truly pathetic.

Tricia… where was the teleprompter when Obama did a one-hour televised Q&A with 141 Republican members of Congress?

But Hillary “went along to get along” and see where it got her. I might get banned tonight, I don’t know. But I do know that going along to get along isn’t leadership and it’s not going to help us break the backs of the Washington machine. Palin has a lot to experience, I think she would say that about herself. That is the biggest difference between her and either Hillary or Obama. I like Palin, if nobody else comes out that has her integrity and more experience on the top of it, I would put our last hope with her. I would. I think Hillary had her chance. She never even called for a vote. Opportunity seldom gives second chances.

As much as I respect and admire Hillary, she, too, has been known to be tone deaf sometimes.  She’s smart but so is Sarah, but in totally different ways in how they express and implement their ideas.

Bill Clinton and obama are nothing alike, and Bill, IMO, was not only brilliant, he knew how to communicate effectively with the people and come across as one of them.  I don’t see people comparing them on a daily basis.

Let’s not fall into the trap of holdling the women, AGAIN, to a double standard we don’t hold the men by!

And Gov. Palin is running for what again???

UBM, come on! LOL! After one year in office, all Obama supporters can point to is ONE day he didn’t use TOTUS? hahaha He better be able to handle a Q&A with repubs after actually being in the senate, and serving in the WH for one year. But please, using TOTUS for a five minute speech, or for a small committee meeting? That is just plain embarrassing. 

But if Obama couldn’t handle a Q&A, after actually serving in the senate, and one year in office, then lord help us all. 

oops, i didn’t log in. that was me UBM.

Good point!  I agree, B. Obama is no B. Clinton….only their first initials are the same.  Obama is an empty shell, and sorry, I don’t even think he’s that bright.  Hillary is brilliant, as is Bill, but more focused.  And yes, Bill was a great communicator, able to make you feel like he was talking only to you, no matter how big the crowd!  IMO Hillary became a much better communicator over the years and by the time she was a NY Senator, she had mastered the art of communication as well…maybe not as well as Bill, but her compassion and caring was able to come through.

Hey UBM, nice to “see” you!  As to the teleprompter…here is an interesting example for you.  Obama was giving a speech on the Teleprompter and he either got ahead or behind on the crawl and had to stop dead in his tracks, and wait for the operator to fix the thing before he could continue.  He did not vamp or say anything whasoever — he was lost.

Sarah Palin (and I am not advocating for her one way or the other) when making her first speech before the nation, the biggest moment of her life at the Republican Convention, experienced the Teleprompter breaking down, and she continued her speech on her own, glancing at notes.  No one was the wiser.

President Obama is a carefully crafted media creation, Svengalied by Axelrod.  You will never convince me otherwise.  And I have been watching closely. This is another reason why he has not been able to sell his health care plan after umpty ump speeches — if he had command of the plan and was really leading it — the great orator would have sold it to the American people.  All last year, he had a supermajority in Congress, the press eating out of his hand, practically getting all their talking points from the WH, the opposition wandering like nomads in the desert — and he still couldn’t do it.

Pr. Obama absolutely has a big skill set — leadership, governing ability, moral courage, economic savvy are not among them.

A woman that pumps her breast milk for a year while holding her professional career is not twice, not four but 10 times any man, intellectually and physically. A woman that has breast fed 4 privious children is capable of raising a country and a woman that can take care of a down syndrome child while keeping her professional aspiration on top of all of the political clique in the U.S. is capable for breast feeding and taking care of a country that acts with much less capacity than her latest child.

Capacity is not acting nor is it memorizing. Capacity is knowing what is right. Few, very few people know what is right. Most of us just know. And many more of us just don’t know.

Let us also remember that Obama would take a teleprompter to a 10-minute campaign stopover in a rodeo ring — this was covered — with pictures — by none other than CNN.  I dn;t think he could have written enough notes on his hand to cover those ten minutes.  She spoke for forty and had eight words on her hand.  Whatever.

Here is one of the main reasons I could never believe in him — he had a ten minute campaign stopover — He did not trust himself and his campaign people did not trust him to speak from his heart to the
American people for TEN MINUTES!  If, after campaign for 20 months on the same issues, you cannot speak to an audience and tell us who you are and what you stand for in a loud, proud and clear voice — without a Teleprompter tellnig you what to say, then how can I trust you with my safety, the military, my money, or my vote.

Let us also remember that Obama would take a teleprompter to a 10-minute campaign stopover in a rodeo ring.  This was covered — with pictures — by none other than CNN.  I don’t think he could have written enough notes on his hand to cover those ten minutes.  She spoke for forty and had eight words on her hand.  Whatever. 
 
Here is one of the main reasons I could never believe in him — he had a ten minute campaign stopover — He did not trust himself and his campaign people did not trust him to speak from his heart to the American people for TEN MINUTES! 

If, after campaigning for 20 months on the same issues, you cannot speak to an audience and tell us who you are and what you stand for in a loud, proud and clear voice — without a Teleprompter telling you what to say, then how can I trust you with my safety, the military, my money, or my vote.

I agree with Larry completely (and unfortunately).

As I said on a prior thread, this past week will go down as a very bad one for Palin.

I watched her speech as well as her Chris Wallace interview and found that she could only speak in campaign talking points and had no substance. Maybe that us still insecurity with the national media or maybe there just is not anything there.

But then when it was shown that she had crib notes written on her palm like some high school kid, then I realized her chances of President were officially over. The imagery of those crib notes will be mercilessly mocked by all of her opponents – not just in a general election – but in a primary as well. I can already envision the treasure trove of SNL skits that come out of this.

It is okay to come to the stage with notes or index cards – but not sophomoric crib notes on your palm.

Can anyone here envision Hillary Clinton doing that?

Palin has a great story – she is very passionate about her beliefs – and she certainly has charisma. BUT after empty suit Obama, Americans will be looking for real substance.

And I contradict AC because I care about your questions. And yes, I have had the situation and yes I have written in my hands notes. And I use notes all the time, even to do my house work and when I go shopping or for groceries. I even write the most essential in my notes, like milk, yogurt, cream cheese, etc. always always always.

Palin is just 10 times smarter than any man in the room – all the time.

“…now been to 57 states with one left to go, Alaska and Hawaii’ wasn’t allowed to go” therefore that equals

–brilliant not a Freudian but a simpleton who doesn’t know The United States.
Watch the 25 second video.

That was easy – staples.

There is no comparison..a lady with five words written in her hands vs a man reading a teleprompter?

My comment on 60 states should have nested below FLDemFem.  This system is goofy sometimes.

I remember that rodeo. Again, I’ll take the crib notes. If this is all they have on Palin, then they’re really grasping for straws. Truly pathetic. I would like to know the “IQ” of people on here who feel it’s necessary to down grade her IQ. What the hell makes them an expert on the matter, yet will give Obama a pass because the MSM tells us he’s the most “intellectual president eva”. We see where that got us. An idiot for a president, and in my opinion, actually dumber than Bush.

Do not criticize HC the lame lame lame SOS.

She said yesterday about Ahmadinejad, “The rest of the world has really begun to see Iran the way we see it,” she said.

Uhhhh I am afraid.

http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1&section=0&article=132625&d=8&m=2&y=2010

http://www.jpost.com/IranianThreat/News/Article.aspx?id=168007

Agree politicsisdirty,
Oranges to kumquat’s is more like it

Palin apparently wrote a few words on her hand to jostle her memory.  It’s not very polished, but she doesn’t purport to be polished or an big intellectual – she presents herself as a “regular” person.  I don’t think a few words on the hand is equivalent to every word you speak being written by someone else and fed to you on the teleprompters.  Three words vs. a thousand – not the same, IMO.

For cryin out loud, if she were the President, I would be fine with her tattoing “give Americans Hope” on her palm. Obama’s “hope and change” has turned into “change and hope”… change it all at once and hope it works out. Guess what? It won’t. We need a damn plan. We nee a President, and not a brand.

:-E =-O

This is a must read if you want to understand Sarah Palin. Every point is spot on.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/02/palins-triumph.html#more

good points, Ani.  the POTUS is an empty-suited teleprompter reader and sound-bite reciter, nothing more.

Sarah Palin is an intellectual lightweight compared to whom?  Compared to Einstein, perhaps.  Compared to Obama she is a genius.

I do not agree on much with Sarah Palin, however I really do like her, for her resolve and being who she is.  With that said, Sarah Palin needs on the job training as perhaps a vice-president or  serve in a presidential cabinet.  As far as being capable of being president.  Not right now.

You are the same drone who has been peddling Obama.  You have bookshelves full of Cohn’s Black Liberation Theology and Obama’s book. 

perhaps: So you agree that she is ready.

Not right now: So you agree that in Jan 2013.

How about going back to what must be a favorite site of yours — the Huffington Post — even they acknowledge that while it technically did not “break down” and I quote:

“the teleprompter continued to scroll during audience applause breaks and had scrolled significantly past where she was in the speech…”

By the way — that is THE SAME THING as the teleprompter breaking down — because the operator has to go through hell scrolling around to get back to the right place — and by the way — she cannot wait for him but has to continue — since I have worked with a prompter many times, I know whereof I speak.  Obama could not have done this and is on video tape proving it with the example above.  Do not accuse me of being an intellectual lightweight.  I am quite clear on the capabilities required to give a speech while prompter is off in la la land.

How about going back to what must be a favorite site of yours — the Huffington Post — even they acknowledge that while it technically did not “break down,”  the operator for lost becaues — and I quote:  
 
“the teleprompter continued to scroll during audience applause breaks and had scrolled significantly past where she was in the speech…”  
 
By the way — that is THE SAME THING as the teleprompter breaking down — because the operator has to go through hell scrolling around to get back to the right place — and by the way — Palin cannot wait for the operator to do this (as Obama did)  but has to continue smoothly (as she did) —

Since I have worked with a prompter many times, I know whereof I speak.  Obama could not have done this and is on video tape proving it with the example I cited above.  Do not accuse me of being an intellectual lightweight.  I am quite clear on the capabilities required to give a speech while the Prompter is off in la la land.

Ha–That’s so true!  I do that myself now.  That way I don’t need any notes and always appear to be well prepared!!!!

they are OBSESSED with her, as we all know, and their perception of her as epitomizing everything “evil” about people who don’t support Zero.  she is a big-haired, female, conservative “hillbilly” who didn’t go to an ivy-league college, so from their perspective, what’s not to hate?   they have projected every one of their (mostly false) stereotypes about republicans onto her, and magnified them to the extreme.

it’s very much like what the right did to bill and hillary clinton in the 90′s.   lest anyone start taking Peggy Noonan seriously these days, i am reminded of a book she wrote – “The case against Hillary Clinton;” it is scary in terms of its rabid, completely unhinged hatred of Hillary and everything she supposedly represented.  the left is doing exactly the same thing to Sarah Palin, but of course they don’t see it.

Larry:
Just last week I advised a colleague to take her carefully prepared written summary of a contentious issue with her to a face-to-face meeting. The meeting had been called in place of an exchange of written documents. In the ebb and flow of talking one can easily forget to make important points. I suggested she glance at her summary occaisionly to make sure she had made her points. Have you never done this?

BO has daim bramage

BO has drain bamage

My dear, you don’t have to subscribe to my view.  You are free to think differently here.
Best
LJ

I disagree with the Sarah writing a few notes on her hand being the same as Obama using a teleprompter.  The main difference is she has to segue from one issue to another on her own–the notes are nothing more than reminders whereas Obama simply reads whatever is loaded into the teleprompter.  When he reads corpsman incorrectly three times I wonder if he is simply reading the words while his mind is elsewhere.  We all know what happens when his TP goes down.  I’d rather have someone connecting the dots on their own.

Rule of thumb, as it were: Don’t make an issue of something you also do.

A strong, femaie politician apparently making her own way. Great, fine. Vote for her because she’s a woman. By all means, do so if you wish. But to do so ONLY because she’s a woman (and you’re tired of woman being pushed around by tingling legs and such) is no better than those who voted for oBlunder because he looked black.

But there’s still a lot of us out there that voted for McCain that will not ever vote for Palin because of her stances on politics. 

Palin doesn’t fit the mold but that might be just what’s needed. Despite all his t.v. time, Obama cannot come close to Palin’s ability to turn the spotlight on an issue. Intellectual heavyweights do not necessarily solve problems and often do not connect with the working people. When ego drowns out intellect, you get an Obama and, at this point in time, a Gingrich.  eg. Health care.  Obama left it to the gang on the hill and was all ready to sign the deal, sitting on his thrown and gaining his place in history.  And then along comes a Palin and utters the words “death panels” and look out.
Loved Palin’s “Hi Mom!” note on her palm when campaigning with Rick Perry! She does like to have fun with the screamers on the left.  More power to her.

If we’re discusing electability, John Kerry was the epitome of intellectualism and he lost to… George Bush.

What I find kind of fascinating is that Democrats keep loosing to these people they label as stupid and they seem to lack the intellectual curioisity to ask why. The standard response is that the voters are stupid. Well, I think there might be a clue in there for all these elite intellectuals to examine. Could it be possible that voters don’t like to be called stupid all the time?

Point taken, however, intellectual skill does not necsessarily translate into leadership ability, nor does it guarantee political honesty and integrity, which is something this country sorely needs.
If you want tograde her overall performance as a govenor of Alaska to Obama’s performance as the POTUS, I think she outweighs him (and a whole bunch of our politicians) by far.

“Loved Palin’s “Hi Mom!” note on her palm when campaigning with Rick Perry! She does like to have fun with the screamers on the left.  More power to her.”

Yeah Mandelay–I look to the writing on the palm motif to become a powerful humorous symbol, a political throw-down, uniting Palin supporters across the country (similar to the shoes thrown across the electric wires in the movie Wag the Dog), as if to say: “Yeah, this is how stupid we are in Tea-Party Flyover Country, just a-clinging to the notes written on our palms!“

It’s not just the Q&A with the House GOP.  Obama has had several extended, deeply engaging Q&A’S with White House reporters after his press conferences.  He had 3 debates with John McCain where he creamed him without the use of a teleprompter.  He has had numerous unscripted town halls.  This criticism of the teleprompter is just ludicrous.  Every single president since Eisenhower has used one.  Get over it.

There is truth in what you speak, lark.

But assuming that because she’s a woman, that she will –by default– have policies that are in the best interests of all women is at least sophomoric, at worst dangerous, as we have seen with oBlunder.

I was a delegate for Clinton in my area, but did so because of her policies, not because I was seeking an icon or symbol.

We don’t need to rush out and embrace the only Womb that dares play in the Penis’ playground. We can’t let the media create another president. WE have to be intellectual –not emotional– or the corporate media will choose for us.

I don’t want more rousing speeches and symbolic gestures. We need actions that speak louder than words.

UBM — I caught a few minutes of that talk. What I heard from BO was  “That – tha- tha- that…” and had to change channels because it was too painful to watch. I have no doubt, no doubt, that it wasn’t the only time he stumbled over his own tongue.

The teleprompter is a tool. Of course he can speak without it. But he can’t do the “embedded commands” in the speeches without it, because he can’t remember where to emphasize the words that the is embedding. It would be too much. So, yes he can talk to republicans without TOTUS. TOTUS and embedded commands aren’t going to work on the republicans anyway. But he can’t talk to an elementary class without TOTUS, especially when the production is being recorded for mass distribution.

OMG! Andrew Sullivan?!!!
*choking with laughing*

Some women never surrender (to injustice). Which makes what I would want from a woman President. Some surrender often (to injustice) which would make me regret my vote. I beleive Palin belong to the former.

Larry.  I held off.  But I have to say this.

I think ou are wrong.

I knew a few of superior — and I mean superior intellect who were completely fooled by him.  I haven’t run into them lately.  Wonder what they think now.

I gladly voted for her in the last election not because she was a woman, but because of the stark differences in the way she and Obama look at things. 

No, she can’t hold a candle to Hillary, but they both share one important attribute: a genuine sense of caring for constituents, and an attitude that constituents in all walks of life are intelligent enough to know what they want, and important enough to listen to.   Obama looks at constituents either as ego-boosters or as obstacles to do end-runs around.

Arrowyn

When she hopped off her tour bus, unannounced at 11:45PM, to greet, and thank the people camped out overnight for her booksigning, I knew she was the real deal. 

If Palin needs notes on her hand to remember simple themes like ”Energy” and “Lift American Spirits”, it’s no wonder she had trouble getting through college. It makes me wonder how she got through high school.

The Dems cried foul when Dubya ran roughshod over the Constitution, but are happy to let Obambi and Co do the same.

Yeah, those unscripted Town Hall’s are all over Youtube. And they are HILARIOUS!! And not in a flattering way either.

People are overlooking the powerful symbolism in it. Here we have Palin who will write “lift American spirit” on the palm of her hand to remind her why she is up there. Contrast that with Obama who manipulates crises to further an agenda. I have no doubt Palin could remember lift spirit and taxes on her own. She wrote it there to remember regular America. She wrote it there to let regular Amerca know that she gets it. I saw ABC make a backhanded swipe at the notes and I think now that it was brilliant. Palin is causing the media to attack her with little nothings. The media is going to further endear regular America to Palin. She is brilliant at this and is running circles around the Chicago boys.

Lark, Hillary is a politician. Palin is an American. We already have politicians in Washington. We already know what politicians will do when things get tough. They do whatever is best for their careers without risking anything. This is Hillary. Palin continually risks it all by doing the right thing. Palin is so much more than Hillary. So much.

This is obviously George Bush’s fault. That’s for f#$%ing with the threads George!

I find myself agreeing with you a lot FLDemFem.

I LOVED debates. Do they still do them in school?

Agreed, Diana L. C.

As a professional who worked with intelligence tests and testing frequently, I can say that Obama is not brilliant.  He’s above average but not by any measure what the media has made him out to be.  He has little to no instant recall or self correcting behaviors.  In other words, he doesn’t hear his own mistakes and correct them.

 ”Corpsemen” for “corpsmen” is a prime example. That showed his language skills to be somewhat lacking. His over dependence on a teleprompter shows that he has difficulty with language flow and memory.  The first time I saw Obama speak, all my red flags went up.  Not a good first impression.

Someone with a superior intellect has the ability to carry on a conversation or make a point with a vast store of knowledge to draw from, ala Charles Krauthammer.

I’ll reserve comment on Sarah since I rarely watch her.

Absolutely I agree… I think only a smug pseudo-intellectual would comment about the value of Sarah’s  sharp instinct and political skills..crib notes and all…. let them laugh …  

This is where the rubber meets the road for me.  The new Republican/Libertarian/anti-Obama meme is: down on anything or anyone that smacks of “intellectual,” which now is equated with “elitist.” It’s the old game of setting one group against the other. And it’s no better than candidate Obama’s snide remarks about working people clinging to their Bibles, guns and antipathy for the other.

But let’s think about this for a minute.  Do we really want anti-intellectual, anti-intellect candidates running for high office?  Of anything?  That’s not to say a high IQ automatically = leadership skills. Sadly, we’re watching that fallacy play itself out right now. But please!  I want someone smarter than me and my dog groomer running for POTUS. 

Common sense is a fine quality.  But it’s not enough to run a country, let alone find solutions to very complex problems to the mulltiple crises we’re facing right now.  Personality is not enough either, unless we want a redux of the 2008 election.

We need the whole package. 

Let’s not pretend that intellect is now the enemy or that “common sense solutions” are going to save the day with no specifics or details to back it up.  Thumping the war chant and claiming you’ll magically reduce government and taxes does not compute in the real world.  That’s not common sense; it’s utter nonsense.

I like Sarah Palin’s grit.  But she is not ready for the Office of the Presidency.  I listened to her interview with Wallace on Fox News over the weekend.  This was friendly territory, and it was another vague, campaign-speak performance.  In fact, I was horrified that she [presumably] quoted Buchanan, saying that the President might change the game [the 2012 election] by playing the war card–a war with Iran–to prove to the American public that he was serious about national security.

That’s downright reckless and insane.

I want the bar raised for Presidential candidates, not kept at the same wretched level we’ve seen over the last 9 years. I don’t care if someone writes notes on his/her hand. I’m more concerned about what comes out of a politician’s mouth and the ability to follow through on the promises he/she makes.
    

And didn’t he recently confuse the Declaration of Independence with the Constitution?  Very unscholarly for a Constitutional scholar in my book.

sour grapes from the HRC idolators.  It looks like this board is being massaged and readied for the Ditzy Clinton’s run.  Pity.

Palin 2012

Sour grapes from the HRC idolators.  It looks like NQ is being massaged and readied for the Ditzy Clinton’s run.  Pity.  
  
Palin 2012

Well, she is no Hillary Clinton!  Yet, both women are subjected to biased news coverage from the corporate controlled MSM.  Where Barry Soetoro can get away with using teleprompters and written scripts, verbatim, you practicably hear no crtiques regarding this from the biased lazy fat MSM!  Except maybe on FOX!  It is soooooo funny watching MSNBS, Mornoing Joe show complaint about how fair they are!  When it comes to their fairness with Palin and Clinton..MAJOR BULLSHIT!  They are biased as they come!  If the Biased MSM was fair in their coverage on all candidates, than they can claim they are reporters..As of right now, there are no truely investigtive reporters in MSM. Where was their coverage on John Edwards as he was running for President.  They all claim they knew about it?  Yet not one of those lazy assholes said anything??   True reporting is coming from NE, internet, foreign news services.     American MSM, LAZY, FAT, Coprorate controlled, biased disservice to our country.  Who really believes in them, except maybe the neocons!

Honestly the act of  writing things down is the way i remember things, if I don’t have a sheet of paper I write it on my hand. Although I could write it down on someone else but i don’t think anyone would let me.  Not that I even have to look back at my hand the very act of writing it there, helps me to remember it. Lot of times, i’ll have my mother chide me for a note I wrote on my hand that i have forgotten about. The information remembered the note in my hand forgotten. One things for sure, I can’t fit a whole speach on my hand nor can Palins hand notes compare to an idiot who is so dependent on a telprompter he thanks himself while reading another person speach. And idea that words written in ones hand makes them an intellecual light weight is as silly as Evan Thomas Saying Obama is like God. And just the fact she needs a few home made talking points in her hand still leaves her the right to slam an idiot who wouldn’t know to scratch his ass if it itched unless it was written on a teleprompter. ANd if she can’t slam him then hell I will, because  at age three my mother would drag me before our version of sunday school and make repeat  all 13 of our memory verse and none of them were  even remotely shor t as “Jesus wept”  and not only did i have to remember the vs but the location as well. If at age 3 I run rings around our president…let’s just say we have a problem.

HOwever I doubt I would feel comfortable with Sarah Palin as POTUS with her thin resume and her history of quitting her job before her term was up.  These things bother me as much as Obama’s even thinner resume and his history of cheating. I wouldn’t have voted for him as dog catcher had he not been shoved down our throats.  But since i try to have principles I like to stick with them, and the same standards I judged Obama by and found him wanting don’t make Palin any more flattering choice.  Anyway I”m not sure who to want because the best woman for the job was relegated to Secretary of State serving under our current Joker and Chieif and looks plum tired and more than a little disgusted.  

Actually even though i think Obama’s and idiot, I’m going to defend him and say he might have been tired. He might have been wanting to say 47 and accidently said 57. AS a chronic insomniac I know about tongue slippage because when i’m suferening from sleep deprevation I some times mix numbers up. I also have to be very careful when i’m tired because i have a tendency to say the last thing i was thinking if I’m not careful (thank God i don’t have to many thoughts i woulnd’t want people to know about). And obama could have been thinking about a steak…you know  like the waffle…he get’s testy when he’s hungry.

Bravo, Develdog, but I hope she does run.

Larry sure knows how to “stir things up” and “push those buttons”.
Well done.

The difference in BHO and Palin is that SHE WROTE those notes on her hand and somebody else writes Obama’s notes for him.  GIVE THE WOMAN A BREAK FOR GOD’S SAKE.

Cathy, academics don’t live in the real world. They live in the sheltered world of academia where ideas are free to proliferate, but those ideas don’t impact on the way their world actually functions. So when a guy who sounds good comes along, they go for him and don’t realize that his ideas may impact how their world functions, and impact it negatively. Your professor friend has found that out, since her husband lost his job and they may be trying to get along on her professorial salary. Hopefully, in the next election, she will look past the “brilliant ideas” to their practical application in the real world and whether is it actually possible for that person to do that. Anyone looking at Obama’s past record would have realized that he talked the talk, but couldn’t walk the walk.

The MSM and the progressives delight in trying to portray Palin as an empty headed fool.  They tried this same tactic many years ago on  a certain man they called stupid and under-educated (ie: no Ivy League degree) and therefore  a complete buffoon for daring to try to run for President. 

Of course Ronald Reagan was elected because he endeared himself to middle America.  That’s where it’s at with Palin.  Don’t discount her.

Larry,

Are you kidding? Out of the thousands of speeches and countless talks, you base the intellectual quality of Obama based on a couple of slip-ups. Very very thin evidence. Given the mirade of topics and issues Obama has to deal with on a day to day basis, there are bound to be a few slip-ups. No big deal.

And where do you get this: “The fact that he is incapble of fully and competently taking down the Republicans for their bogus attack on providing “Miranada Rights” to someone arrested on US territory tells me he is shallow.”

I am sure that he is more than capable of taking on the Republicans on Miranda rights. I think he needs to pick his battles. In this case it was probably smarter to let the intelligence and law enforcement professionals take on the Republicans on this issue.

Obama crushed the Republicans on every single issue and gotcha question that the Republicans threw at him during their recent telvised meeting. I could only imagine McCain or Bush being ambushed with no where to hide by the Democrats in a similar meeting. Or Palin. Love to see Palin get asked the same level of intensity questions from the opposition that Obama had to face.

Do you know that the Dems asked if McConnel, Boehner or Cantor would like to do a similar televised meeting with Democrats and they said no? I wonder why. They do not have the balls to face their detractors that wanted to humiliate him on television like Obama did.

Johnson you have a very high standard of intelligence. I hope you hold all politicians to the same standard and no just those you do not like. Boy, that Scott Brown guy really seems like an intellectual pillar.

Thanks to SOS HC collapsing in Haiti Christians now know the nature of Haiti and the nature of the Obama Administration towards Christians and can separate ourselves from both of them and let them follow in the wrath of God.

What we need is to look at the effect that the lameness of SOS HC is causing and the detrimental effect it can have on each one of us.

Larry,

Would you want an intellectual heavyweight like Newty to be president?  Our country has been inundated with so much intelligent sounding rhetoric for so long that we wouldn’t know the real thing if it bit us on the nose.  Even Hillary had to learn how to connect with her audience because she came across as stiff and robotic, when she began running for the Senate.  What’s lost in our politicians is  not their intellect but their total lack of politcal courage and ability to see the big picture and apply real solutions that every day people can understand and get behind.  I still don’t know what obama stands for, but everyone says he’s simply “brilliant”!

Granted, Sarah is not an intellectual, but she does know how to get things done — her record proves this.  Unfortunately, unlike men, her accomplishments as governor are totally ignored, overlooked and dismissed, which makes any criticism of her intellectual prowess totally unfair. 

I’d bet any male politician would be proud to have her record as governor and no one would be questioning his “intellectual” ability, if he were caught looking at his hand at his crib notes.  In fact, I’d bet the media would call him “charming”.

HAHA!  Thank you, Portia! 
I am a HUGE fan of the use of my hand for notes. 

BTW – did anyone see the photo of Sarah at a rally the next day – she was greeting a little girl, and had “Hi Mom!” clearly written on her hand.

I say Sarah is a genius.

Aren’t there supposed to be 57 Muslim nations????

sowsear, I saw that on the morning news. My answer is yes!
BO has driven me “around the bend”! LOL!

Ani, they think they will lay low until the rescue team shows up!

Yes, if Sarah had played her cards right, she could have aligned herself with radicals and smoozed through Harvard!

Intellectual giants: America for Palin is much different than America for SOS HC. In this first year of SOS HC representing America, America has changed.

I agree with Eastan, Larry.  And your choice of the term ”small town girl” is unfortunate.  I know you’re not a sexist, but. . .

What is wrong with you? Writing a few notes on your hand is NOT by any means lowtech teleprompter.  Would you say the same thing if she had a few bullet points on an index card or a piece of paper? There is a vast, vast difference between having some pointers on paper (or on your hand) to remind you to hit all the key points and reading wholescale from a rolling script.  I am amazed that you would argue otherwise.

Arabella,

Not even close. There is no evidence the Obama has ever been interested in making money. You do not take a very valuable and potential lucrative Harvard law school degree and become a low paid community worker. He also has a very long record as a public service from in the state of Illinois and his years in Washington. He never quite on anything.

And he is helping to move the country forward. He has made a lot of progress, number 1 being the economy. I am sorry if you do not like the direction, but your candidate lost so too bad.

If is funny that you seem to love Palin, but then you say it is okay if she has the same traits as you believe Obama does. How can you have it both ways? Does not make logical sense?

As a black man I am sure Obama had it much tougher than most through his years in school. He certainly made something of himself starting with limited means and with only one parent. I give him full credit for getting to where he is. Hard work and his focus got him there. No silver spoon like Bush or McCain.

I only stopped writing notes in my hand after someone told me that there might be lead in the ink, and I have made presentations in many public forums.  In fact, many years ago I used to rely on extensive notes for public speaking, but I would get nervous and end up reading, and to me that was simply unacceptable.  so I started writing one word notes on my hand before moving to one word bullets on a piece of paper, because, without a written speech, you are forced to look at your audience and speak directly to them. 

I think that this critism of Sara Palin is just ridiculous, and shows the lengths to which people would go to try to discredit her.  I listened to her tea party speech, and I thought that she was great, especially when compared to Obama’s speeches which I find to be over the top and unimpressive.  Learning that SP had a few notes on her hand does nothing to diminish the quality of her speech in my eyes.

Amen. I would question the interlect and the political savvy on any person who cannot move away from a teleprompter after so many years in the political areana.  Obama even needed a teleprompter to introduce one of his cabinet members.  How pathetic is that!

I’m all for “intellect,” but there have been a lot of intellectuals in this world who would have made horrible presidents; Albert Einstein was certainly an intellectual but he would have been a disaster as a president.

I think what you mean is “intelligence” of which there are many types  (http://tinyurl.com/hyxfp) and certainly Obama appears to lack whichever type it is that makes one a successful and good political leader.

There are also the issues of “wisdom” and “judgment,” and here Obama certainly seems to have drawn the short straws.

And there is the question of “character” in a president, and I would say Obama is short in that category as well.

There are many factors that make a good or great president; “intellect” may be one but it is by NO means the most important.

I’ll bet Sarah Palin could talk to sixth graders for ten minutes without having to cart two — yes, two — teleprompters along with her, as Obama did.

No, I do not agree with her policies, but she is not dumb and is certainly stronger in the honesty category than Obama will ever be.

And, yes, I am a Democrat and have been for decades.

Somebody should tattoo “lift American spirits” on the inside of Obama’s hand, because he seems to have forgotten that part of the job.

Obama served the people of Chicago for just over  one year before rushing off to run for president, and you have the nerve to talk about someone not finishing the job? At least Palin handed off to a competent sucessor.  Obama’s senate seat sucession has generated one scandal after another and the democrats now seem in jeopardy of losing it altogether.

Larry,

When you say Obama is an intellectual lightweight, who as a former Constitutional law professor, cannot use the Miranda rights issue as a teaching moment are you referring to the 11th Clause of Powers of Congress?

Do you mean someone should be teaching us that the Constitution grants Congress the power of deciding what to do with prisoners of war, not the President? – Section 8 – Powers of Congress, 11th clause. 
 
Whether or not to Mirandize terrorists depends on whether we are at war with them or not. And, if they are POW’s then how they will be treated and questioned is up to Congress, not POTUS.

And it also depends on whether a terrorist act on US soil, property, or person by a foriegn or domestic political group preaching jihad against the US an insurrection or invasion. How POW’s from insurrection or invasion would be treated would also be up to Congress, not POTUS.

But, very clearly, the Constitution states that POW’s are not eligible for the rights of citizens, or foreigners in the US with proper visas. They do not get the benefit of Miranda, but should be subject to the Geneva Convention, and provisions in the Homeland Security Act. Anything about Miranda in those documents? 

We could also use a Constitutional teaching moment on the Health Care bill about the first Constitutional Power granted to Congress which states that “all Duties, Imposts and Excises (TAXES) shall be uniform throughout the United States”? At least there are a few awake Attorney’s General, that were prepared to take the health bill to court over free rides for Nebraska and other states.

Thee One’s crib notes written on the palm of his hand: “UP, DOWN”–what else for a narcissist who needs only himself for total satisfaction . . .

To place writting a few words on your hands to jump start the speech point matter is hardly on the same level as using a teleprompter,allowing only a mindless robotic response.
Have not watched CNN in well over a year but they are not failing in their unfading Obama worship mode .

I oppose the criminalization of the Newark Airport trespasser just as much as I oppose the criminalization of the Hatian that opened the wrong door just as much as I oppose the criminalization of the 10 Baptist in Haiti. I oppose the criminalization by government of citizens when citizens are acting natural choices. The government should not criminalize its citizens but provide them assistance. Stop government creation of criminals. Call your representatives in Congress.

Meet two new fellons: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0209101snow1.html 
 
Government of itself to itself and for itself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml54UuAoLSo

If it takes an intelligent person to have a wicked sense of humor, Sarah is a genius:
http://biggovernment.com/jhoft/2010/02/07/you-betcha-palin-campaigns-for-rick-perry-writes-hi-mom-on-her-hand/

So after all of that the consensus is that most people wrote notes on their hands during high school debates, early in speaking careers before moving on to note cards or presently when doing household chores.

The point that Mr. Johnson is getting at which I think everyone missed is that a narrative is being developed of Sarah Palin of being a bumbling buffoon. It doesn’t matter what the reality is. They’re going to turn this event into an ad and run it again, and again and again during the Republican presidential primary asking voters, “Do you want the leader of the free world to be someone who must write notes on their hand?” Her supporters they’ll defend her to the death. Her detractors will point and laugh. The political parties and the main stream media will suck up money and donations to keep the game going at the public’s expense. It’ll be interesting to watch. 

This shows the “wisdom” of Palin. Book smarts isn’t the same thing as wisdom. Real people like small business and enterprise. This is still “America” after all.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/125645/Socialism-Viewed-Positively-Americans.aspx

You’re losing me here, Larry.
Why do you care whether Palin writes a couple of words on her hand?  How does that make her unfit for national office>
I just don’t get it.
It reminds me of a relative, who, when asked about Palin, responds, “She’s just terrible.”  That’s it: that’s her whole argument.

Time for a bit of a giggle

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4023/4338718757_aebca41cb0_o.jpg

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0209101snow1.html

Now we only need for CNN to begin looking into the background of these two felons.

Had they thrown anything ever towards anything? For example have they been in a food fight ever? Did they thrown food to their babysitter or thrown a toy to another kid and poke their eye out their eyelids? Have they written a paper in school about throwing snowballs?

Do they own a snowmaking corporation?

CNN needs to look into these individuals and see why they are guilty of these charges and why a tougher sentence should be imposed on them.

I would rather see notes on Palin’s hands than Obama’s hands on my banknotes. 

As I said, lightacandle, we need the “whole package.”  And no, I “mean” intellect:

1 a : the power of knowing as distinguished from the power to feel and to will : the capacity for knowledge b : the capacity for rational or intelligent thought especially when highly developed
2 : a person with great intellectual powers

Let’s not kid ourselves: intellect is important. The fact that Sarah Palin mouthed a stupid statement by Buchanan is a case in point.  A credible presidential candidate needs to discern what is valid and what is crap.  Parrot-talk is dangerous. 

@Guest. BO used his “constitutional” knowledge as a “selling” point. To this this day I can not fathom why Lawrence Tribe called him brilliant. He is a dimwit in a  classic Mark Twain way.

Here is an another example of BO’s Constitutional ignorance;

During the primaries he called Hillary’s suggestion to change the AUMF “quaint”.
He is a very ignorant man and it shows in his repeated politically tone deaf statements. The the sniveling chicken-shit BO does not know the difference between the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of The United States

Love the avatar dst.

Thanks for the compliment Murray.

Remember when–actually for this one I was VERY young–Adlai Stevenson II was regarded as an “egghead”?  (He was also from Illinois.)  He was always defeated by Eisenhower, the military hero.  This country doesn’t give the academic types much credit.  And it’s not always a bad thing that they don’t.  I know many, many highly intelligent people in the ivory towers of “academica.”  However, their minds have usually been focused on one highly specialized field of interest that they are, in many ways, stupid about the rest of the world.  We have few “men/women for all seasons” in universities today.

We just need to understand that there are different tpes of intelligence.  We understand that in dogs, for instance.  Each breed is better at certain types of behavior, same with cats, horses, etc.

Again, I believe Sarah Palin is highly intelligent.  But again, I think she has yet to develop knowledge about many of the issues that she would have to deal with as POTUS.

If you haven’t seen Breitbart’s speech at the Tea Party Convention, you simply must.

My favorite line while talking to James O’Keefe about being in jail for 8 hours without an attorney “if you had strapped a bomb on ……” you would have had one in 50 minutes……….

The Obama administration and his band of thieves and liars have shown their “hand”, and it has nothing to do with “justice or liberty or fairness or the American way of life” …………

Most people who come throught this site are not over paid propagandist posing as journalists on a major cable network.  They are much taller than her.  Can you make that distinction?  They are for the most part the average citizen with something to say.  They don’t have a cable station as a platform.   Occasionally, we get trolls and obots, with one thing in common: snot. However, if I did have a visual means of communicating with you, you would see a smiling me with middle finger at a attention.  GFY

Palin 2012

Most people who come throught this site are not over paid propagandists posing as journalists on a major cable network.  Can you make that distinction?  They are for the most part the average citizen with something to say; although they are much taller than her, they don’t have a cable station as a platform.   Occasionally, we get trolls and obots, with one thing in common: snot. However, if I did have a visual means of communicating with you, you would see a smiling me with middle finger at a attention.  GFY 
 
Palin 2012

Yes, oowawa. I think that’s Larry’s point. It’s not about having notes or TOTUS. Don’t make fun of O for using (copious) notes when she has to do the same thing, even if it’s 5 things.

It’s the eternal problem with politics. One side skins the other side alive for doing “X”, all the while they are doing the same thing.

It’s the reason I’m in independent now. I won’t let the corpse media decide who should win. Nor will I idolize a person. Principles matter, not feel good speeches. All the criticisms of oBlunder could be turned around and be used against someone like Palin. Color, gender doesn’t enter in at all. It’s about policy and experience. Words are cheap.

One good policy made into law is better than five words (written) in the hand.

Yes, he is brilliant for a below average student.  Like to see the bend in that curve–would have made Sandy Koufax envious.

thinker,

what are you talking about? you don’t even have basic knowledge of Obama?

he served in the illinois senate from 1997 to 2004
he served in the federal senate from 2004  to feb 2007, when his presidential campaign began.

That is about 10 years of govt service to the people of Illinois.

Yea, low voltage, but high output.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0209101snow1.html

If you were CNN what would you like the public to know about these two fellows to make sure the public knows they are guilty?

ces, a Op-Ed  in today’s  Washington Post describes the leader of that group as pretty much a scofflaw.  Written by Eugene Robinson whose judgment is questionable, but it’s a start for research purposed. Described it pretty much as a kidnapping.
I would post the link but until oowawa shows me how, I am lost.

Yes

Talk about light weight. The DSCC has lost it. Have you seen this email?

<img src=”https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=bsp&ver=1qygpcgurkovy” border=”0″ alt=”Tell us what Sarah Palin is saying. Use the new whiteboard. Be creative!”/>

Did you read about last weekend’s “tea party” convention in Nashville? Attendees paid $549 apiece for a weekend of activism and education capped by the main attraction: a speech by everybody’s favorite half-term former Alaska governor, Sarah Palin. For her efforts, Palin received more than $100,000 in speaking fees – and the adoration of legions of fans.

In honor of the tea party convention, we came up with a way for you to tell us what you think she’s saying. Just click on the link below, fill in the speech bubble, then submit it to us. We’ll post the best creations at dscc.org.

Click here to fill in what Palin’s really saying.

Be creative! Sarah Palin wants to be the voice of the tea party movement. Let’s help.
-DSCC

<img style=”margin: 4px 0pt;” src=”https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=bsp&ver=1qygpcgurkovy” border=”0″ alt=”Contribute Now”/>

3×5 notecards are readily available to any aide who doesn’t want their boss to look bad. its very common to take a mental checklist in the form of note cards or even full on 8.5×11 sheets with points you want to make sure you cover.

I think comparing this to the teleprompter of Obama is irrelevant. I don’t need to juxtapose Palin against anyone to decide when someone is posturing beyond their real selves. The limelight is addictive after a while.

I applaud ‘average’ people stepping up and getting involved with their representatives, senators, closely allied parties or even creating new ones. This is all good stuff. I spend about as much time dealing with Congress as the average lobbiest and only do it because I’m paying attention on these bills and larger meta motions in the Fed, state, county and city governments. Its a damn near full time job. I do it because I understand the pipes of this machine a little bit now. I hope others will do so as well.

But what is happening with some of the new found interest in politics is assinine posturing and buying into the narrative of “old washington”. A poser is easy to spot because they usually mimic that which can be mimiced but miss what is authentic. In D.C. very little in the political circles is authentic, from my view. Instead of politics having a meaning of ‘dealing with the needs of the people’ there abouts…it means ‘defeat the ideological enemy, hold the reigns as longs as possible, control the message, stay on message, make sure the message is clearly getting out, and if the message becomes a problem, then fog..fog…fog” Golf anyone?

Palin couldn’t name any periodicals because she didn’t really “read” any. Lightly reading Newsweek isn’t the same as reading 200page books on details by insiders. Glancing FoxNews, AC360, Countdown, and others, isn’t going to teach you about current news. LIGHTWEIGHT.

Why did you delete your reply?  Guess you though it was rather stupid after all.  Another middle finger for you. GFY

FWI, I’m not an obama supporter. He’s being a neophyte. I didn’t vote for him. But you’re incorrect about the “teleprompter”. there are other occasions in the last 365 where he didn’t have his teleprompter. Further, because the whole thing is rather a distraction, teleprompters are not new for POTUS, nor for executives. I wouldn’t rest an entire argument of his …inexperience, etc…on TOTUS. Its about as useful as birth certs. Total argument would be best, not distracting little petty bits like…teleprompters.

This was my big problem with the anti-Bush crowd for the last 8 years. Nobody wanted him removed from office more than I did, starting with his master Cheney, but not with horseshit arguments about Skull and Bones, CFR, horseshit. Deal with what is in front of you. Jobs, Jobs, Jobs.

Or we can keep fiddling while Rome burns….

Larry: I don’t think she has an intellectual problem, I think her intellect hasn’t been well cultivated. YES, Americans are tired of carefully groomed and molded politicians, but the fact is that in order for anyone to do a great job as POTUS they must have a broad spectrum of intellectual knowledge and curiosities, and that hasn’t happened with Sarah Palin, yet, but she is in the process of being groomed.   
 
I think she is smarter than George W. Bush, big deal, so is my dog.  
I think her experience is on a par with Barack Obama, big deal, half of everyone I know has more professional work & business experience than either of them.  
 
Does writing notes on your hand make you unqualifed, NO, but since the setting was casual most business people would have chosen index cards to the palm of their hand. The glance at her hand reminded me of the 5th grade cheater who no matter how hard he tried to casually glance at his palm notes, he always got caught by Sister Mary Whoever.  
 
The overriding question of Palin is, WHO THE HELL is she?  Here’s what we know.  
 
She is Pro-life, no exception except if the mothers life is at risk.  
Anti Stem Cell Research.  
She supports wage parity for women, but opposed the Lucy Ledbetter Act.  
As governor she refused to allow her State to deny Domestic Partner benefits for State Employees on the grounds that it violated her State Constitution, but said that she supported Amending the State Constitution and does not now, nor has she ever supported Domestic Partner benefits.  
As Alaskan Governor she answered: “Top priorities include preserving definition of “marriage”. Source: Eagle Forum 2006 Gubernatorial Candidate Questionnaire Jul 31, 2006 ”  
When asked on Fox News if DADT should be repealed she answered “I don’t think so right now”  
 
As she makes more public appearances, there will be more on the record revelations and more to dislike about Palin than the silly personal, inappropriate things that too many people revel in. We can dislike her politics without getting personal because if we get personal MOST Women (a group I belong to) will feel compelled to defend her.  
 
So everyone who doesn’t want to see Palin become President, keep your critque of her clean, there’s enough real political challenges on her record to make her unacceptable to all but the most conservative voters

HaHa AC–just copy the URL internet address in your browser address bar and paste it in your comment.  Like magic!  Can’t get over how clever these newfangled contraptions are . . .

If I were in Nashville and had the scratch, I would have been delighted to hear Sarah, and I would have paid.  You are obviouslly an Obot thug.  Did you go to the uplifting rock concerts for the airheads of America who voted for the Fraud, the same ones who couldn’t tell you who their governor and congressmen are?  Yeah, the rock concerts were free.  The American public are now paying for it.  There is no amount of slamming Palin, that will do anything to change my mind about the D party and its disgusting leaders.

thruthtelling07, Please calm down.  Yes, I did not watch the whole show, but I did not give an opinion on the whole show, I commented on what I saw and I was clearly not as impressed as you were.  I thought that he was rude and arrogant in the portion that I saw.  Maybe I would have changed my opinion if I watched the whole show, who knows.  And by the way, surely it is acceptable to comment on a portion of something that you did observe, once you disclose that you are only commenting on that portion.  It would then be up to the reader to take that into consideration when viewing that comment, as opposed to viewing the comment of someone such as yourself who claims to have viewed the entire incident.  

Guest,
I meant that he served the people of Chicago as a United States senator.  He was sworn in as a US Senator in January 2005, and he announced his candidacy in January, 2007.  He had to have been involved in exploratory committees, focus groups, lectures, etc. for several months  before announcing his candidacy.  That is why I say he served for a little more than a year.  Maybe you are the one who should brush up on your basic knowledge of your leader.
By the way, Sara Palin was a mayor for several years before becoming governor so by your logic, she also served the people of her state for several years, so how come she is a quitter and he is not.  Just saying.

atti, please read–this is an EMAIL from the Dem Congressional Committee ,not me. I am pointing out how childish the dems are. They have devolved into a bunch of crazies.

Thanks for that update, I heard with my own ears her refusal to criticize Rush, for roughly the same thing, during her Sunday appearance at Fox News Sunday. Another thing to add to the resume of things we REALLY don’t like about her, her hypocrisy for the sake of political theatre.

She also praised John McCain during the election for leading his Party during the TARP bailout, the same bailout she now criticizes Barack over. There’s plenty of criticism on that issue to spread around to both parties. Sarah speaks with forked tongue and as more of her words become public record, she will have to face the consequences of those words. No more unknown status for Sarah Palin.  

Sorry,  I can’t bare to read anything that is unfair to Sarah, that is how your post got pigeon-holed.  Please accept apology and allow me to delete.  Thank you

What part of she is not ready yet, didn’t you understand?

Thanks oowawa, will try that next time.
For now, must wash the note off my hands.

LOL AC–I’ve got it tattooed on my wrist so I don’t forget:

COPY
PASTE

Great update, Larry. I didn’t realize she had to actually USE the notes during a sit down one on one question session. 

And she was reading from notes during the entire speech. Same diff. All speakers use notes. Glass houses.

Did I say that I love Palin? I don’t, you assume far too much. If Obama doesn’t care about money, why did he make a crooked deal with Rezko to buy a house he can’t afford? How did Michelle, with her minimal qualifications get a 6 figure salary? Obama was either legacied into Harvard, or he got in as a minority quota candidate. He’s a lazy, mediocre lawyer according to people who have worked for him.

He got bored in the Senate, couldn’t hack the tedium and then ran for president. He provided poor public service to his constituents and let people freeze to death in Rezco housing projects.

He now enjoys the perks of high office including throwing expensive parties and taking vacations on the tax payers dime. Michelle is a greedy, selfish woman with a sense of entitlement that is shocking in these days of economic suffering.

What has Obama done for the economy? You say I don’t like the “direction” Obama is going in. If you mean ” throwing the economy in the toilet, ignoring terrorism, and raising the national deficity” you bet I don’t like the direction he’s going in.

And what is this school boy taunt “your candidate lost so too bad.”? How old are you? Twelve?

You are either dumb as a box of hair, or humor deprived, the reason I said that Palin was “just like Obama” is that I was mocking your statement.

Typcial obot broken record,

Let me get another laugh out of this one “”There is no evidence Obama has ever been interested in making money.”

That’s one of the funniest things I’ve heard in a long time.

I will agree that the defending of Rush using it was because it was satire wasn’t the best.  But how that add weight, in your view, of some of McCain’s staffers claims, I don’t find the connection.

I think most of us were excited by Palin during the campaign. But, get real, she has shown herself to be an intellectual lightweight.  Ironically, the two interviews that I think have killed her were the ones with Glenn Beck and Chris Wallace.  Beck asked her who was her favorite founding father and she answered “all of them”, bringing back memories of the Couric interview.  And, her inability to answer Wallace’s question about Rush Limbaugh damaged not only her intellect, but her credibility. 

With greatest regret, if it is Palin vs. Obama, I’d choose Obama. 

PortiaElizabeth,

Actually to be technically correct . He won his seat in November 2004 and started his job as a U.S. senator in January 3, 2005. He actually continued to hold the seat until Nov. 16, 2008, but started campaigning for president as above in feb 2007.

WHAAAHH!! thanks for playing. please check your facts before playing again! 

Do you recall Chris Wallace’s interview with Obama–Obama said he was a Law Professor–Wallace didn’t challenge that.  How about Obama’s interview with Stephanopoulos “My Muslim faith”, no one ever challenges his bullshit and this makes  Palin a lightweight–don’t agree there.
We’re viewing them through different lenses IMO.

LOL @ update w/stewart (totally hung for bambi) like that will change my mind!  LOL

that only makes me more apt to not discount her if the GREAT and ALMIGHTY JON (roflol, hardly) has some “dirt” omg I HOPE there is dirt otherwise she could get idolized like the obots or hillraisers seem to have turned in to…………. I love BOTH ladies for various reasons and would vote for either tomorrow!  so there.  Naneenaneebooboo!  ~~~~

The Rezko thing is your opinion and that hardly made them rich.

Michelle had minimal qualifications for a six figure salary? that is a good one. Shhe had a Harvard law degree. She started from ground up at the Sidley Austin law firm. pretty typical for a lawyer to make six figures, even right of of law school, especially if you come from Harvard law.

Economy has gone from losing 700,000 jobs a month and -6% GDP growth to no real job losses and almost +6% GDP growth in less than one year. Pretty remarkable. I hardly think Obama is ignoring terrorism. He more than double the troops in Afghanistan going against his liberal base. Has taken out more senior leads of al qaeda in pakistan than Bush ever did, etc. etc. etc. He barely added anything to the national debt, so I am not sure what you are talking about. Almost all of the 2009 budget deficit was predicted by CBO before Obama even came into power and Bush took the debt from $4 trillion to nearly $10 trillion. Obama is trying to figure out a way to deal with the deficit and debt while trying to rescue an economy in the tank.

Again where is your evidence that Obama is interested in making money? Quite the contrary. He could have went to Wall street or any major law firm and made millions with his Harvard law degree. He chose to go into low paying state politics.

You sound like a typical broken record of an Obama hater. So much hate by someone so misinformed.

Pathetic that so many have jumped on the critic bandwagon because of three little crib notes written on the palm of Palin’s hand.  Would it have been more acceptable to the snobs if she had a few index cards on the podium?  I mean.. get real.  Palin gave a long keynote speech.  Isn’t it great that she can make do with one palm instead of a bunch of teleprompters?  Let’s give her some credit.  How many of us here have ever stood in front of a huge crowd and given an hour-long speech?  I think she did an outstanding job!

ces, I understand, thank you for helping me understand.

The doctor’s office was dirty, everywhere and dirty water was coming out of the faucets. I had to get treatment. I decided to leave as soon as possible and never return or at least until the doctor cleaned the office and install a clean water system.

Thank you, Portia, for putting some common sense into this discussion.

Actually, your argument is kind of BS. I hardly think it is the equivalent of Obama running for president as Palin straight out quitting. First, Obama did not stop serving the people of illinois and running and becoming president is still serving the people of illinois. There was no break in the chain of serving the people of illinois.

However, Palin just straight out quite. She could have easily stayed on as Governor and finshed out here term which had two years left. She quite for what? To do the luncheon circuit and put her name on cheap ghost written books and editorials. She quite because she could make a lot of money and likely because it was becoming much harder to govern in Alaska given the decline in the economy and lower oil prices.

She would be much better positioned for a presidential run if she went back to Alaska and helped the voters that put her there get through the economic downturn. She could have pushed through some energy or environmental or healthcare reform which she talks about (critizes) so much. She would have had a better track record. Instead she quites. It is her pattern. She quite the Alaska Oil and Gas Commission, she quite her colleges, she quite as governor.

She is just an opportunist with limited ideas. She is scary on her religious beliefs and her far right-wing views. Here ethics are also very questionable given all the stuff she did in her only 2 years as governor. flew daughter around on state plane, allowed her unelected husband to make state government decisions,  had the public safety commissioner dimissed because of a family divorce, want removal of books from library, etc, etc.

Michelle was nicely asked to give up her law license after only four years. Rumors indicate that she got eye deep in a little illegality and was asked by the IL state bar to relinquish her license or have it it stripped from her.  Michelle’s moral compass and intelligence, anyone?

No, thanks.

Palin has the left wing worried.  Gibbs disses the ink on the hand?  All Americans need to declare a “Hi Mom!” day.  Ink it on your hand and post it.  It would be another message that we ain’t takin’ the crap and corruption anymore.

I declare a “Hi Mom!” day.  All Americans ink “Hi Mom!” on their hands. 

I watched the whole damn thing as well. I got a different take as you did. I did think he was arrogant and aloof.

As far as “lining up” for autographs, the democrats did that as well with Bush,but is your memory that short. While they may not like the things he does politically, it does score them some points to have a President’s autograph. There were some democrats who jumped right in there to even have their pictures taken with Bush. It gives them that “street cred” that they can “work across the aisle”. So it happens on both sides of the parties.

And you’re wrong about them not having a plan for healthcare. Look into HR3400, I believe that is the number. They presented it many times, and as someone who works in healthcare, it is very workable. But of course, with the dems in power, why do they even need to bother with the GOP. I mean they can cram this thing down our throats. The GOP isn’t holding anything up, as much as you’d like to believe. Majority in both the house and Senate by the Dems should mean they can pass whatever the hell they want. I’m tired of hearing the line that the GOP are obstructionists, it’s a lie. Figure it our for yourself, but please don’t piss down my leg and tell me it’s raining. I’m smart enough to know who has the majority. But it isn’t politically expedient for them to do it now is it, considering that most of America doesn’t want the shit plans that this administration has offered. So you can bark on about the GOP being pathetic, but you need only look at the Dems to see who is pandering to who. Dems seem to be causing quite a shitstorm theirselves in not getting anything done.

truthtelling, that is pure bs! you have no idea what she has or hasn’t read. and please can the crap that you pick up on msnbc and the other hate sarah sites.

ff, just couldn’t stay away i see. and the best you can do is sullivan? i am laughing at you right now. obummer, i see 44% and going down everyday. good luck with all that ff!

Oops. You’re right. My bad. I should’ve typed 05. I knew that because he campaigned here in NH in 07 which was only a year and a half after he started to serve in the Senate. Point to you!

She has survived the slings, arrows, insults, scrutiny and comments from the Left that NOONE left or right will dare throw at Obama.

Think about it guys what do we honestly know about Obama.  Where are the grades, were are his college buddies, the people he grew up with  and the list goes on.

The friends that did materialize quickly got tossed under the bus by him…Wright, Ayer, and the list of the people under the bus keep going on.

President Zippy
Good one Jim S

Perhaps you should get a thicker book. There’s more to giving a 40 minute speech than what Obama shows. The teleprompter allows him to go out totally unprepared for anything other than reading. Giving a 40 minute speech with 7 words written on your hand to highlight your talking points is totally different. Reading off the teleprompter gives one the privilege of not knowing or even caring what the subject matter is about. 7 words tells me that because of time restraints, she’s trying to make sure she gets in everything she wanted to say.   

Besides, put them side by side and say who do you trust and Palin gets my vote.

Outline notes on her hand … Give me a break.

Thanks Teak, for the explanation of the avatar.  I never would have guessed!

oowawa,
As Gomer would say, thank you, thank you, thank you (said quickly). I honestly have been too lazy to wonder what all those thingies are and explore on my own.  That’s why Jefferson chose Lewis and Clark over me.

I’m with you on that score

arabella,

do you have any proof that “Michelle played the same con game Obama did. She got into schools based on her race.” or do you just think that black people cannot succeed in life?

buzzlatte,

you are another conspiracy nut.

“He said attorneys often filed a petition for 770 when they wanted to pursue other careers, retire or begin raising a family.
“At the time, this happened all the time,” he said. “Our office would have to file what’s known as a consent.”
Grogan said his office would have immediately alerted the court in a public filing if there had been reason to believe she should face disciplinary action.
“We filed a consent in Michelle Obama’s case in which we had no objection to her transferring to inactive status,” he said. “In the event that she did go on inactive status and she engaged in any disbarrable offenses, there would be a disciplinary case of public record.”
He continued, “Just because someone goes on inactive it doesn’t deprive us of the jurisdiction to prosecute.”
Inundated by numerous 770 filings that each required a separate court ruling, the Illinois Supreme Court later simplified the inactivation process. In 2005, after Barack Obama was elected to the U.S. Senate, he changed his status to inactive as well.
“By 2005, which is several years later than his wife, the rule had changed such that you no longer had to file a petition that was such a pain for the court,” Grogan explained. “Instead, the court had changed it to two types of status: inactive or retired. Either situation involves merely sending a letter to us basically saying, ‘I want to transfer to inactive status.’”
Active lawyers are required to pay $289 each year and take 30 hours of Continuing Legal Education, or CLE, every two years. Under inactive status, attorneys are not required to take the courses, but they must pay $105 each year. “Inactive” registrants are not authorized to practice law. Lawyers who retire do not have to pay fees or take courses.
“A lot of people who aren’t practicing say, ‘Why bother?’” Grogan said.
Barack Obama remained listed as inactive until he retired this year. ”

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=105998

i think that a large part of the criticism of this is because (they think) it showed her to be a “classless hillbilly” – not “their kind of people.”  if she used a note card, nobody would have said anything.

The Obots miss the days when they could go after Hillary using every sexist ploy in the book. In some visceral, primitive way it was exciting to tear a woman down. It got the juices flowing.

Obama seeks to revive his moribund campaign. He’s always in campaign mode. What will get the dissaffected hot and bothered? Well, there’s Sarah Palin on the scene again, leading an oppo group. Never mind how much Obama and his media puppet joke about tea parties. They, and all Democrats are afraid. What to do? Go to the tattered Obama Playbook. Rule 1) Divide and Conquer.

Palin offers so much potential for Obama. A woman to mock, degrade. belittle and attack. Not because she is a woman, oh no. Because she’s provincial. Because she’s “second rate” in the intelligence department. Because she writes on her hand. I leave it to the readers of No Quarter to figure out why Palin seems so mouth-watering good to the hungry hoards of obots.

Reminds me of the Yoko Ono/John Lennon song: “Woman is tne n***** of the world.

It is still permissable to make fun of women. And of older people too.

Isn’t the post-racial age wonderful?

Michelle…guest.  Michelle lost her license.  

Well, if it were a differing point of view with merit, that would be one thing.  But what you present is as empty as Obama’s head.

I think Guest was actually referring to Obama’s limited means brain.

atti, we don’t need to be massaged and readied, we have been ready since she announced in 2007. And we worked and campaigned for her and watched the DNC steal her delegates and give them to Obama, enhance Obama’s delegate count by giving heavily AA districts extra delegates, and in the end, not allow a floor vote so that it seemed as if Obama got the nomination by acclamation. She got over 18 million votes, he got something over 17 million. She won, but he got the nomination due to crooked mechinations by the DNC who supported Obama because he was black.

JJ — you’re no PUMA if you could, under any circumstances, vote for Obama.

Bullshit Docelder.  Why don’t we just wait and see what happens.  Has Palin spoken up in favor of the missionaries?

http://baracksteleprompter.blogspot.com/2010/02/of-gibbsys-hand-job-and-other-slights.html

After this article, I should feel embarrassed to admit this, but I am not. I have in the past, right before a speech, written a few words or figures on my palm or a piece of paper. I also do this when I go shopping when I can’t find a piece of paper. I never considered it cheating or otherwise unethical. Forgetting to make an important point, getting a figure incorrect, well that would be cheating the audience. Forgetting to buy an ingredient might make it impossible for me to complete a recipe. 

Funny thing, I have noticed a lot of people jotting notes on their palms or on a corner of a piece of paper before a speech. Many of whom have been snickering at Palin. i am sure many of the journalists ridiculing her have many times jotted down last minute questions or notes to make sure they don’t forget to as a question during an interview. So even though I am an intellectual lightweight, I am not a hypocritical intellectual lightweight.

RE: “courage to take on the entrenched interests in Alaska”….well, then she decided to quit just as things were getting a little tough in Alaska in terms of the financial situation…

No courage there!!  Another “pied-piper” personality as far as I can tell…

Don’t you ever think deeper than what you present, NMGRL?  Was it only that simple?  Or are you a simpleton?

No need to get indignant.  I’m not a Sarah Palin watcher.  

Actually, I want a President who can have the sense to pick good solid advisors.  No one can possibly be able to cover all the subjects thrust upon a new President…there’s really no way to really train for the job.

I believe Sarah knows exactly what she’s doing when she riles up the Dems and makes Liberal heads explode.  And I also believe that should she choose to campaign for 2012, she’ll be using the next two years to become very solid delivering policy positions.  Time will tell but we’ll start seeing a different Sarah in 2011…or maybe after the 2010 mid-terms.

You betcha!  I was rolling in the aisle today when Beck did his intellectual snob impersonation of Joe (? forgot to write his name on my hand) Klein.  He was right on and hysterical.  I hope they re-run that one! 

Yes, I’ve always admired and loved Hillary but I’m finished second guessing as to her motives about taking the SOS position.  I’d have rather she stayed in the Senate.  It bothers me to no end that she stayed in the Dem party after they treated her like dirt.  I did not feel that way over her choice to stay in her marriage…even though she was mistreated there too.  However, in a marriage it’s not one sided when things go south.  The Obamacrats are criminals.  It makes a big difference to me.

Bill Clinton NEVER condescends to his audience and never gives anyone the idea that he holds himself as superior.  It’s a real treat to see him in action with an audience for a couple of hours.

People keep saying TOTUS is a tool but in fact it’s one of his crutches…like the ciggies.

I believe the fact that you started your rant with “the tea bagging event” tells me all I need to know about you, Mr. Troll.  Move on down the road.

Maybe there’ll be better caucus policing next time.

Read what they’re saying about Sarah:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/polls/2010/feb/sarah-palin-tea-party/results/

Palin will only be asking to be hired as a cleaning lady to clean up Washington. Just like Hillary was asking to be hired as a cleaning lady when she was running against Obama in the primaries. And just like Obama asked to be hired as a cleaning janitor to clean Washington. Most politician in democracies just ask for a cleaning position. Steve Brown did the same.

Government get dirty and they need cleaning. All of them.

Is Obama doing a good job cleaning Washington? That’s what the next elections will be all about. If Obama cannot prove he has been cleaning good, Palin will be considered for the job.

Palin has the cleaning power with lots of experience cleaning.

If the government of Haiti is dirty then it too needs cleaning.

Palin will only be asking to be hired as a cleaning lady to clean up Washington. Just like Hillary was asking to be hired as a cleaning lady when she was running against Obama in the primaries. And just like Obama asked to be hired as a cleaning janitor to clean Washington. Most politician in democracies just ask for a cleaning position. Steve Brown did the same.  
  
Government get dirty and they need cleaning. All of them.  
  
Is Obama doing a good job cleaning Washington? That’s what the next elections will be all about. If Obama cannot prove he has been cleaning good, Palin will be considered for the job.  
  
Palin has the cleaning power with lots of experience cleaning. 

CNN needs a lot of cleaning too.

Whoa, I see lots of trolls and Obots are participating on this thread.  There must be a directive to go forth and pile on Palin. 

At this point I’m ambivalent about her.  But I SO enjoy how she ruffles the feathers of the Obama flock.

For those who have convinced themselves that the Obama birth certificate issue is a non-starter, you will think twice after reading this story.  Contrary to the explanations given by the Department of Health in Hawaii, the long form birth certificate for that state IS vastly different than the short form “Certification of Live Birth” and contains much more information.  Why is Obama hiding the long form birth certificate?  Well, likely because of the extra information contained on that form which is not reported on the short form Certification of live birth, the one he released to Daily Kos.  It was a brilliant move for Miki Booth, a candidate for US House of Representatives in Oklahoma, to release her son’s Hawaii long-form birth certificate.  Brilliant.  Now both Obama, his supporters, and the Department of Health in Hawaii have to explain the discrepancies of their stories versus what is actually available by way of the Booth bc.

There is no longer anyway anyone can say this is a non-issue.  It is a HUGE issue!

E H Lee,
As in Animal Farm everything Sarah (Mr. Jones of Manor Farm) does is bad, everything that Obama (Napoleon of the New Manor Farm) does is good.
Just ask the sheep.  ”four legs good two legs better” 

Because he says that he gave BO a BJ  in 1999, and they both did coke in the back of a limo. Sinclair has been incessantly attacked by Obots since ’07.  He has book at Amazon.  Also,

larrysinclair.com

“  He has had numerous unscripted town halls.  ”
 
LOL you have to be joking? He was really coherent at each town hall right?
Like he wrote a book where a few words would have done….
 
Its OK sweetie we understand!

So maybe writing down some talking points on your palm was a bit 6th grade but at least she went in trying to cover her bases. That shows a form of preparation and back up plan if she got off track.  Maybe she didn’t have any note cards handy and had to make do with what she did have on hand – ie, her hand.
Also, this is a riot. A technoligical breakdown of how much it costs for Obama to do a telepromter speech verses how much it cost Sarah to write down her talking points:

http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/02/crib-notes-technology-cost-analysis/

I agree with everything you say. I too pulled for her up to the convention; but you leave out the period at and after, which  has dienchanted me.  I hope I’m wrong.  We’ll see.  Thanks.