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Steve Clemons: Gen. Clark Is Not Welcome at the Democratic National Convention

Steve Clemons is one of the classiest and most fair-minded people I know. He makes every effort to always give people the benefit of the doubt. He demonstrates in every action and in all of his writings the “Golden Rule.”

Furthermore, if you’ve ever been lucky enough to have turned on C-Span during one of the exceptionally well-organized forums that Steve sets up (which is what he does for a living), you have been in for a treat. One of our best regular readers — whose comments are always a must-read — is “Mr. Murder.” He sent me an e-mail on August 15th about Steve’s latest forum, “Scripting America’s Priorities: The Democratic Party Platform.” Go to Steve’s blog, and read all about this important forum. (And thanks to Mr. Murder for sending me his e-mail.)

Steve Clemons’ fealty to the “Golden Rule” is an amazing feat since he is very well-connected in Washington, D.C. and knows nearly all of the major players, and I can only imagine how difficult it is to stay true to himself in such a hardball city. It would be natural to become cynical and to indulge in the gossip common in that cut-throat environment. (A prime example is Sally Quinn, who with one hand proudly holds up her religious faith, and with the other cuts people like the Clintons to shreds because they don’t meet her rather snobbish criteria for inclusion in her inner sanctum. Her snobbery is a dishonor to her supposed faith.)

So, when I read this written by Steve Clemons at his fine blog, Washington Note, I know he has thoroughly checked this story, and that he knows whereof he speaks.

Furthermore, I sense, strongly, that Steve Clemons was very unhappy as he wrote this:

Obama to General Wesley Clark: Your Services Not Needed

General Wesley Clark is not attending the Democratic National Convention. I was told by General Clark’s personal office in Little Rock that he would not be attending.

Clark was informed by Barack Obama’s people that there was no reason to come.

General Clark has been given no role of any kind at the convention.

Rubbing salt in the wound even more, the “theme” of Wednesday’s Democratic convention agenda is “Securing America.”

Wesley Clark’s PAC also happens to be called SECURING AMERICA.

This speaks volumes about Barack Obama. As the person who sent this article to me added, Barack Obama “holds grudges and is petty.” That is true. Furthermore, it is just plain stupid. One of Barack Obama’s glaring electability issues is his complete lack of experience in the essential arena of NATIONAL SECURITY. Barack Obama needs Gen. Wesley Clark FAR MORE than Gen. Clark needs Barack Obama. This rebuff demonstrates not only pettiness, it proves that Barack Obama lacks common sense.

Here is more from Steve Clemons about the Obama’s campaign notice to Gen. Clark that he is not welcome at the convention in Denver:

This is a mistake in my view. There are a lot of perspectives and competing agendas about how to direct America’s next national security posture — and General Wesley Clark should be one of the top tier names and personalities at the table.

Please read all of Steve Clemons’ article. And consider the heavy heart with which I sense he wrote this.

[NOTE: I hope that our cartoonist PatRacimora also writes about this. PatRacimora knows Gen. Clark and has long been involved in his campaign activities and his PAC. She will add an important personal touch to this disappointing story.]

During the primaries, Steve Clemons made every effort to be fair to all of the candidates, including both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. He was also critical of all of the candidates when he felt they deserved to be criticized.

He told it like it is. Always. There were a couple times when I wrote to him about columns he published that were critical of Hillary Clinton, and he always — always — wrote me a thoughtful reply.

He is an honorable person. To his core. And so is General Wesley Clark.

In other words, his blog operates as an even-minded resource in the blogosphere — a true rare instance of “objectivity” these days when, frankly, we hunt and choose which stories to write about based on our own feelings and prejudices. I’m as guilty of that as anyone, at times. But Steve never is.

And now, let’s consider how this makes General Clark feel. He was a devoted partner to Hillary Clinton throughout her primary contests. Then, as soon as she suspended her campaign, he went to bat for Barack Obama. Because of one statement he made about John McCain, he became persona non grata to the Obama campaign.

There are other FINE PATRIOTS who have been similarly treated by the Obama camp. Former ambassador Joseph Wilson, a true American hero who campaigned in several states for Hillary Clinton, immediately CALLED Barack Obama’s campaign and offered his services in any way he could. He has never received a call back.

When heroes such as these are cast aside by a presidential campaign, one must ponder what the campaign is really about.

When such EXPERTS in national security are ignored, one must ponder if Barack Obama has any common sense. He needs these patriots’ advice. Desperately.

Aside from winning, that is.

It is a bit understandable that, for a while, the Obama campaign might be wary of General Clark’s services after his sincerely unintended “faux pas” regarding John McCain, which he in NO way meant as an insult but simply as a statement of fact. (It was unfortunate, but what’s past is past. And General Clark has such a distinguished record that the WHOLE of his professional and personal history must be honored.)

And why ignore Joe Wilson? Why ignore Valerie Plame Wilson? Why not appreciate and promote these fine Americans who have given their careers — and in both instances have paid a high price for sticking to their true American values — to protecting this nation and trying, always, to do the right thing?

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    perhaps because bambi is related to chainsaw and chainsaw screwed the Wilson’s BAD! AND of course with Clark, he has always been a Clinton supporter forever and worked under Bill.

    Barry wants nada to do with the Clinton wonder years!

    He only wants lousy loooooosers & lunatic lemmings & leaf eating, low hanging fruit grabbing, legume leftists!

    Clark came off my heroes list after backing Barry. That was Party loyalty over Country imo.

    I still admire his service but he’s no hero of mine any longer. Sorry.

  • helen

    How low has the democratic party sunk?
    People who have put their lives on the line for this country to be insulted by a racist- anti-american – know nothing is beyond the pale.
    Since when has the democratic party become the disloyal party.
    If this is what the unholy trio dean,pelosi,and brazille want for America, they have to go at any cost.

    COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  • roseeriter

    Well considering the many times Obama says he’s above old political games what should we expect. Obama has hoodwinked, bamboozled and thrown anyone who is a threat to the all-knowing One under the bus- there’s only room for one at the top. King of the Hill. Well Obaby, King of the Hill is a game, Prepare to be knocked off, the sooner the better.

  • Katmoon

    I have no words, honestly, so foul.

  • Hope

    Barack Obama doesn’t have the common sense Barry Soetoro was born with.

    He cannot contend with the fact that there is no person with enough credibility, foreign policy or otherwise, to make him look good.
    All those who try to defend him simultaneously lose their own authority and moral standing for attempting to defend the indefensible; and Obama proves himself undeserving of their loyalty every chance he gets.

  • CheapEmptySuit

    When heroes such as these are cast aside by a presidential campaign, one must ponder what the campaign is really about.

    When such EXPERTS in national security are ignored, one must ponder if Barack Obama has any common sense. He needs these patriots’ advice

    His campaign is about winning even if he cheats with irregularities that suprpassed anything ever seen in history, and he doesn’t need these patriots advice. Fraudbama is not a patriot and neither is his wife. That’s a statement and not speculation. Fraudbama and his wife hate America. Nothing has changed.

    If anyone on this blog thinks that Fraudbama will just destroy the Dem party think again. Fraudbama is going to take down America from inside the whitehouse if he succceeds in stealing this election.
    Fraudbama has no stance on anything because his agenda has nothing to do with democracy. His agenda has everything to do with Islam. If you think 9/11 was bad you haven’t seen anything yet. Obots need to take a step back and see how they are selling out America to Islam. America! Wake up! Wake up! Wake up!
    Stop Obama in Denver!

  • Shainzona

    WTF!

    I am and have been a Clarkie since September of 2003 and this takes the cake.

    BO will have all sorts of faith based events – opening and closing every day’s events but there is no reason for Wes Clark to even be in Denver?

    GO TO HELL BARRY AND TAKE ALL OF YOUR ASSHOLE “FRIENDS” WITH YOU.

  • helen

    When has backtrack barack ever shown that he wants to “Secure America”.
    There has never been any act to make this country better.
    All he and his mentors do is try to tear America down.
    Racist- anti-american – know nothings from the git-go.

    COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBA, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  • AMERICAN SAWBUCK

    GO TO HELL BARRY AND TAKE YOUR WHOLE STINKING “NEW” DEMOCRATIC PARTY WITH YOU.
    YOU WILL LOOSE… YOU ARE THE FOULEST DEMOCRAT YET…

  • jyotinc

    They all should come to PUMA Party. I think Murphy and the rest will be happy to welcome them. Look, we were called “low class” by Howard Dean, so we joined PUMA.
    Who needs them anyway.

  • Honora

    Why are you all upset, Oprah and Jessie Jackson Jr. are going to be there, what more could we want??

  • Fredster

    Just another reason not to pull the lever/darken the circle, punch the button or whatever for Barky.

    What a douchebag.

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    ya know the more I think of it

    the more I’m sure CLARK is happy about this!!!

  • bluemoon

    I am frankly recycling this comment from the real SecuringAmerica where I wrote it this morning.

    No Clark eh? But look who Obama chooses to run around with Air Force uniform Project Runway wannabe McPeak whispering in his ear.

    Republicans usually pick up ten points in the polls in the last month- the fact that the O! & McCain are purportedly neck & neck at this point considering recent history with a split party to boot should have everyone quite worried.

    I think if Barack Obama were a 1/8th as wise as he is over-ambitious…If he actually possesses 1/3rd of the potential we are told over & over again he has (because he’s got no actual accomplishments to point to to prove it)…

    And if he were a heckova lot less stage managed, he might have a chance of going to the best people available instead of pre-emptively shunning & snubbing the people who have an actual track record of success. Because frankly there aren’t that many. Instead of treating them as competition to be eliminated, he would show he’s big tent minded for something other than Republicans. Wes Clark could make Barack Obama a great president. But the O! is a fool, end of story.

    In PA I am seeing proBO ads where all the people are from Indiana or Ohio (pointing so stupidly to Bayh) & they are keeping Barack’s face out of the ads & going for the domestic angle.

    Think back to WKC’s argument at the DNC Winter Meeting in 2207- a soldier, fighting for his country.

    O! operatives reading- compare the famous blue state red state speech with the reclaim the flag speech at the 2004 convention & you tell me which one has held up better. Which one is more relevant to the office of POTUS?

    Lost in some blue state red state fantasy, these New Left Democrats are lost in a fuzzy dreamworld of Hope & Change while Rome burns. They don’t have a clue- they are not going to field someone like WKC who is an anti-neo-con silver bullet- they are going to run a timid campaign based on having read What’s the Matter with Kansas, have Evan Bayh (who makes Steve Clemons & the left apoplectic!) as your VP unless they are so brazen as to recycle John Forbes Heinz Kerry.

    General Clark has spent a lifetime immersed in the fine details of America’s national defense. The O! seems to have only the vaguest idea of what that might entail. General Clark is an expert on all of the complex underpinnings of the delicate geo-political world & how they intersect with major world institutions, etc. – I mean, there is NO comparison between what the philosophical slant of WKC could do to correct our course. The O! should surround himself with the best & brightest- evidently, that is not going to happen.

    What a moron, and that’s putting it as kindly as I can. Nobody has worked harder for Democrats- who apparently don’t deserve it. After seven years, they have internalized the abuses of their evil twin brethren across the aisle & merged into a giant purple stupidity machine.

    I thought they wanted to try to win this time.

  • Shainzona

    What more could I want? For Oprah and Jessie Jr. and Barry to all go Cheney themselves.

  • CheapEmptySuit

    Let me add that Soros’s whole goal for puppet Fraudbama is to destroy the democrat party and to destroy democracy! I’m serious. No need to wonder.
    No need to give the benefit of the doubt. It’s evident in everything about his campaign. Soros is hooting for Naziism in America. He learned everthing he knows from when he worked for the Nazi’s.
    Stop Obama NOW!
    There is no 2012!
    NOW-at Denver!
    Delegates beware. Stop Fraudbama NOW!
    This is serious.

  • Hope Floats

    I thought Clark’s comment about McCain was out of line. It was no worse than what Sen. Jay Rockefeller said, though, and you can bet your sweet ass he’ll be there. It’s strange that Obama is excluding him like this.

  • Hope is the last to die

    Barry is such a kid, throwing a wobbly when someone isn’t kissing his ass and writing down names for his “People I hate” -book. This is the very same man that shouted at a reporter who had mentioned his big ears with one line in a single article about half a year ago.

    “I’m very sensitive about my ears, I was mocked relentlessly as a kid!”

    Please, this man wants to rule the most powerful nation in the world? Give me a break. He’s too weak, inexperienced, childish and not to mention self-centered for the job.

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    I agree about 2012

    who gives a chit about 2012!!! WE are in DEEP DOO DOO in 2008!!

    I”m not willing to “HOPE” things will be as they are right NOW SO SHE CAN RUN IN 2012

    THINGS CHANGE w/out PUSHING FOR IT~~ ya know?

    HILLARY NOW

    BHO AND MAJOR JOHN
    NEVA!

    bloody good run though Sen. McCain

  • catherine

    After Dean’s comment recently that the Republicans are the “white party” it would seem that if you are white you are not welcome at the DNC convention either- unless of course you white and plan to give the chosen one money or adoration.

  • Firefly

    I’ve also been a Clarkie since 2003 – the Draft Clark days.

    Wes Clark is an American hero – a workhorse for this country and for the Democratic Party – a brilliant man – a great patriot – a decent, kind and honorable person – and a whole lot more great stuff.

    The news of this snub is shocking – not at all surprising, however, knowing barfy as we do. But Wes Clark is so far above the small-minded vindictiveness of this “man” he will, I am sure, just turn the other cheek.

    Wes Clark doesn’t need Barry Soetoro – Barry needs Wes Clark. Too bad you’re such a sh*t head, barry – of course you never could have gotten “this far” without being a lying, manipulating, race-baiting, strong-arming, mean-spirited a-hole, now couldya?

    Just thinkin’ here: couldn’t Hillary invite Wes to the convention? I mean, as a candidate in NOMINATION, doesn’t she have the right to PICK HER RUNNING MATE? Wouldn’t that be cool?

    And just one more thing – if we’re making a list of American heroes snubbed by barfy, we need to include Max Cleland too.

  • steel magnolia

    Maybe if he dyed his hair darker, they’d let him attend. They probably think he belongs at the white party’s convention (per Howie) instead. (snark)

  • CheapEmptySuit

    Democracy is not handed to us on a silver platter. Democracy has to be protected by the people. The citzens have to monitor and protect democracy. STOP FRAUBAMA NOW! SUPER DELEGATES AND PLEDGED DELEGATES. THERE ARE LAWS IN PLACE THAT SAY PLEDGED DELEGATES HAVE TO VOTE FOR WHO THEY WERE PLEDGED TO…IT’S IN many STATES ELECTION LAWS. DON’T LET ANYONE THREATEN YOUR VOTE!
    STop Fraudbama before Denver.
    stop him now!

  • Firefly

    Great post, bluemoon – well said. I agree completely!

  • Ellen D

    Mine too but I think he just tried to help Hillary. I’m putting him back in my good books and joining his PAC again.

  • imustprotest

    Oblah seems adverse to true heros. Decorated war veterans, wounded recovering soldiers all take the spotlight away from the narcissistic One.

  • CheapEmptySuit

    When that Super D From CA emailed a PUMA and barked that the facists will come for us in the middle of the night he wasn’t joking.

    In face of our own Constitutional demise, a war with no end and economic collapse, all of US should be paying attention to such descriptions. AMERICA NEEDS TO WAKE UP NOW!
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3386810561868116434
    This video, touring the old AMTRAK yard in Beech Grove, IN, is illustrative: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3386810561868116434 Maybe there is an explanation for this other than the clear inferences drawable from the retrofitting of the Beech Grove yard, but I haven’t seen it. Immigration status in doubt? Here is an operating ICE facility, called a “public-private partnership”, once a correctional facility, with playgrounds added for fun for the entire family of an undocumented suspect: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3386810561868116434 Let’s get beyond figuring out who is behind these monstrosities, and make sure they, and the laws authorizing them, are repealed.

  • CheapEmptySuit

    May we succeed in awakening some of the OBOTS to the threat that exists as a result of certain psychopathic sociopaths who have infiltrated their government. A visit to: http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20070405.htm will be instructive to those who are curious about the genesis of this particular threat. People who deny such a threat mistakenly assume that, since they are good, that anyone else must also be good. They should be made aware that evil personalities gravitate to positions of power.

  • tillthen

    So, comments about his ears piss him off, do they?

    Wouldn’t it be great if all of the Noquarter friends who attend the convention wear T-shirts with two very large ears on the front with no head, just empty space in between, signifying the ‘nothing’ that he is, and an appropriate epithet on the back.

    Is it mean? It would be nothing compared to the insults his campaign has inflicted upon this country.

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    I’ll have to wait to rejoin Clarkies

    although I guess I never was cuz they say Once a Clarkie always a Clarkie.

    (snarky chuckle)

    I do love WES. I named my MEEZ animal Wesley! LOL But his SON warned him not to get involved this time around and look what has happened! I bet Junior is giving Dad some “i told you so’s today”

    Love Gert

  • helen

    Does anyone remember when a so called candidate for president of the United States ever told the people and patriots of America to “GO TO HELL”.
    Do they honestly think Americans should trust the future of their families and their country to this bunch,
    ARE THEY CRAZY////
    Everything legal must be done to stop this abomination now.

    COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  • CheapEmptySuit

    The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.” – Thomas Jefferson The vast majority of my fellow Americans have not been vigilant about the growing losses of our liberties to an increasingly tyrannical government. What would we call any OTHER nation which had passed laws enabling the single head of government to suspend elections, suspend the Constitution, and round up and detain millions of citizens in concentration camps without any semblance of due process? We would call that a dictatorship. That is exactly what is going on in this country. It is time for Americans to wake from the coma they have been in since 9/11/2001. You have been asleep at the wheel. You have not investigated these things. You STILL have the Internet, you are not YET in a prison camp, so while you still have some freedom left, USE IT. Start with research.

    STOP FRAUDBAMA BEFORE DENVER! DON’T GIVE UP! NEVER GIVE IN! PUSH BACK!

  • Ms. Misdemeanor

    And don’t forget Charlie Rangel

  • http://nativeamericansagainstobama.wordpress.com/ timepasssages

    I have agreed along with a rep, from the afrcian american and hispanic community to be on ed hales radio show on Monday night at 6 to 8 pm monday night the 18th, this is mountain time. For any of you who would like to listen, here is the link. Please call in and talk to us!!

    http://www.hcsfjm.com/chat.html or http://www.plainsradio.com

  • Dawnelle Leona del Puma

    God BLESS Max!!!

  • CheapEmptySuit

    I love that show. Momma E needs donations for her project injuction before Denver..please help with legal fees..Before Denver..she needs funds now! Go to the show and donate for momma E’s legal fund to stop Fraudbama.

  • http://www.logisticsmonster.blogspot.com/ DiamondTiger

    I personally believe that Bambi and his tight inner circle have a hidden agenda and that people like General Clark would upset the apple cart. The DNC has lost control of this egomaniac and if he is nominated, we will remember in november.

    Enough said?

  • Firefly

    I remember a long time ago Joe Wilson told the story of some event he attended, in a room full of prominent, well-respected military and national security experts, right after the start of the Iraq war.

    He asked the group if ANY of them had been consulted by the Bush Administration before they marched off into that debacle. NOT ONE OF THEM HAD BEEN ASKED FOR ONE BIT OF INPUT – not one!

    I think this is what’s going on with the Democrats and the Soetoro campaign – JUST LIKE THE NEOCONS – they’re eschewing wisdom and expertise in favor of creating their own “new” reality.

    If it’s possible, I think these people are even more scary than the neocons – neocons on steroids.

    We can’t let them get anywhere near the White House!

  • CheapEmptySuit

    All Americans should rally around the 13th amendment to the federal constitution at this point in time- and begin to understand that it is every American Citizens duty to ENFORCE- the constitution- no some politicians or governments duty to enforce the same-

  • candymarl

    Breaking News!

    A four star General has been permanently tied to the bottom of Barack Obama’s bus.

    A spokesperson said “With all of the other victims – I mean volunteers – that were under the bus this was the only spot left”.

    The MSM cheered the move and said it showed that Obama had real leadership skills. One news person was heard to gush, “Only a person with real vision could have done this. The tingle went up my leg, through my groin, and traveled to my neck. The hair on my neck promptly stood up.” Then the news person burst into tears overcome with emotion.

    No further details were released.

    /satire

  • susan

    So much for the Obama promise of party unity, when, because they may not have supported him from the very beginning, he ignores some of the most necessary and most intelligent members of the party. Spiteful is yet another word to describe this ignorant, petulant fraud of a candidate!

  • http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

    This is not the Democratic National Convention,

    Barry Soetoro is turning it into the Democaratic National Con.

    How else can a useless street thug from Chicago who has accomplished nothing his entire life except to steal the thunder from others manage his way through life, if you want answers, then just visit the Federal Holding Jail in chicago and ask Tony Rezko!

  • TeakWoodKite

    Former ambassador Joseph Wilson, a true American hero who campaigned in several states for Hillary Clinton, immediately CALLED Barack Obama’s campaign and offered his services in any way he could. He has never received a call back.

    SusanUnPC; Awhile Back when BO had his much vaunted “National Security” team meeting, the articles I read at the time mentioned that BO was to meet with 30 other people. I looked for several weeks after that and did not find any follow-up on who else he was speaking to.

    It is very sad that he would not personally pick up the phone and at least have the manners to respond.

    Common sense is not in BO’s playbook, or his wife would not have called him a bonehead. I suspect not for doing the deal for the McMansion, but getting “caught” with Rezko.

    Why on earth would you blow off a person with the experience and insight of Amb Wilson or Wes Clark?

    If I was as unqualified as BO is, regardless of what one might think of a person, their experience and insights are certianly a valued resource.

    BO is an IGIT who sends chills down my spine and my skin crawl.

    “Securing America” for who..is what I am left wondering.

    Thanks again for all great work NQ does.

  • http://IthinkIfeel... Tricia Spiegel

    It wasn’t so bad if taken into context–and he was asked the question, he didn’t “start it” so-to-speak.

  • Larse12

    Obama is a fool – he acts like a spoiled child.
    Only a loon would vote for him.

  • Katmoon

    Diamond,
    Right on target.
    I see that too, can’t control the problem they have started.

  • http://IthinkIfeel... Tricia Spiegel

    I used to think that the Obama campaign was nasty, manipulative, market-tactic driven (no real substance), BUT also very smart and clever.

    Whoops!

    Toss Wes Clark under the bus (the only VP candidate who might be able to pull of an Obama win in November besides Hillary herself) and I have to forget about smart and clever. They are just plain STUPID!

  • HARP

    If it makes Wes feel any better,I was thrown under the bus months ago.

  • Firefly

    John Kerry’s probably another one behind the snubbing of General Clark. I mean, he stole every idea from Wes in 2003, then Wes campaigned all over the country for Kerry/acted as an advisor for Kerry/prepped Kerry for the debates/was a friend to Kerry.

    As payback for good deeds done, Kerry recently went out of his way to throw his good friend Wes Clark under the bus – though NOT BEFORE helping barky steal the name of Wes’ PAC, Securing America. I’ll just betcha.

    So, maybe this is a sign that Kerry’s gonna be the VP nominee (oh please please please, let it be!) – every time he runs for something he’s just gotta steal from Wes.

  • yttik

    I noticed some tension from Wes Clark the other day when he was trying to defend Obama’s response to the Russia/Georgia crisis. He kept saying “I think Obama’s done just fine.” It was curt. It was like the way you say “fine” when nothing is fine and you’re just trying to satisfy people with an answer so they’ll go away.

  • http://www.todayslies.com Will

    Obama 2008! Go Democrats!

  • AF catfish

    Obama in doing this is begging Hillary to be the nominee. Superdelegates – Obama is sending you a signal. He is leaving you with an excuse.

    Now we just need to figure out what to do with his reserved stadium on Thurs night.

  • Julia Perry

    attagirl!

  • Julia Perry

    I have just decided I was wrong…. I now have seen what Wes Jr stated this afternoon…

    but today was my very first time to step up to the plate and get a diary started over at DK: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/16/18237/6344?new=true now, I’m eating crow

  • Patrick Walker

    Soros was a German Nazi deathcamp survivor…

    Soros was/is as bamboozled as every single Obama supporter. Barry Soretoro told everyone what they wanted to hear to get where he is today.

    IMHO, Barry is a sociopath and seems to have quite the history of viewing others as disposable. Use them up and when done, throw them away.

  • http://www.gratisnet.com bobbski

    Barack Obama “holds grudges and is petty.”

    Sound like anybody else we know?

  • http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

    From the GOP National Convention Commitee:

    We had planned to have a short film on the lies performed by Senator Obama since becoming a US Senator, but we realized that our convention is only 4 days and we’d never be able to finish the film that requires 5 days to include all of Senator Obama’s lies.

    It was suggested to Senator McCain to take a vacation while we showed this film, but Senator McCain replied with a stern warning to his staff that the day he requires a vacation when fighting for his country will be the day he is taking the big dirt nap!

  • Julia Perry

    I got asked two evenings ago by MoveOn to coordinate their energy rally on Tues the 19th. I really didn’t want to — I immediately said that I was hacked off by their swaying towards BO so early. The answer was “this is what the majority wanted… from the ground up, he carried the poll over Clinton”

    Something else is happening regarding my hosting this rally/press conference, and I may end up canceling it… I relish the possibility, and will once again tell the MoveOn power structure that they should stop considering me on their bandwagon. Have they ever heard of friendly fire?

  • Patrick Walker

    That’s just juvenile.

    A better T-shirt to wear would be a simple question:

    “Where’s the Birth Certificate?”

  • Julia Perry

    I think that Howard Dean owes us an explanation. NOW, if not sooner. let’s back up and look at 2006 and upcoming this Nov, and wonder what his goddamned fifty state strategy would look like, if it weren’t for the General?

  • emj

    Wes Clark should be given strong consideration as a VP candidate with Hillary Clinton.

    Also,m here’s the “Contact Us” address for the Dem convention, along with a suggested message for them:

    info@demconvention.com

    Your website only mentions Obama’s acceptance speech. Where will Hillary Clinton’s acceptance speech be held if she is nominated? When will this be posted? Thanks for any information!!

    *********
    Another way to get this information might be to call the Denver news media and ask where Hillary’s acceptance speech will be held!!

  • Beth C. Taylor

    Obama, with the amazing support of Carolyn Kennedy, likes to market himself as the second coming of JFK. I recall that JKF went out of his way to surround himself with the finest intellects he could in his administration. During the Cuban Missal Crisis, he even called in experts from the previous administration. It would seem that Obama is not such a reincarnation of JFK afterall.

  • Sanjong Thapa

    Gen’l Clark? Ya mean the guy that targeted Christian positions in Bosnia under orders from President Clinton as that administration ran point for the Islamic invasion of Europe?

    General Clark is perfect for Obama.

  • hillaryfighter

    Wesley Clark’s son posted a comment on dailykos and confirmed this story. Another one under Obama’s bus. Why Clark would speak on behalf of Bambi just baffled me. You know this guy can’t be trusted.

    http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2008/8/16/152850/162/66#c66

    For a long time but we have a very active business that he needs to travel a lot for. He wasn’t invited to speak at the convention. I’m sure somebody in his office called the campaign and asked if he was going to be invited to speak because he needs to book meetings for that week if he isn’t in Denver. Apparently the answer that came back was no.

    It’s not a fake out or some secret plan, he isn’t going to be VP or probably anything else in an Obama administration, assuming he’s elected.

    What he is going to do is go out and campaign for Obama and plenty of Democrats in house and senate races this Fall.

    I know some you think you can change this by launching VP diaries a couple times a day in hopes that Obama will be swayed by the “netroots.” Dude, when has that ever worked with this campaign?

    It’s a beautiful day. Go outside and get some sun.

    “Apes don’t read philosophy.” “Yes they do, Otto, they just don’t understand it!”

    by WesClarkJr on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 01:12:02 PM PDT

  • NO for O

    Right behind you. Nothing but disgust for this shameless election.

  • haypops

    Ambassador Wilson, Supreme Allied Comander Wes Clark, and Senator Cleland; these are some of my favorite things. Not only is this a good line for a song, but a partial list of bus fatalities.

    There is another great American bus fatality. United Nations Ambassador Richard Holebrooke has been dissed by the Obama campaign because of petty jealousy from Obama’s second string national security advisor team. Steve Clemons discusses it here:
    http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/2008/08/obama_and_the_h/
    and the NY Times discusses in near the end of this article:
    http://tinyurl.com/5rrgpz

  • Andy

    I am stunned… How could the Obama camp and the DNC (!) push Wesley Clark aside like that? This is quite an insult…

    I find it ironic that the Obama camp would allow all
    the false rumors about Colin Powell speaking at the convention and do this to Wes Clark???

    Unbelievable… The Obama’s camp hubris is outrageous. Their “we do not need anyone” attitude
    is really insufferable and will come right back at them
    and it won’t be pretty….

  • baby_puppy

    I saw for the first time last night on clintons4mccain, a picture of Barry standing with hands clasped while Hillary and others had their hands over their hearts. I assume this was during the national anthem.

    That picture really sickened me. Seeing it is very powerful; he has this smirk on his face.

    Makes me wonder how Clark and other military could support this guy in the first place. Shameful. That picture needs to be displayed in all McCain ads – everywhere all the time.

  • http://! Buzz Latte

    I’ve always thought that Clinton and Clark would make for a great administration.

    What the DNC needs in Denver is a coup d’ etat. Barry led out in handcuffs and all of his minions herded into paddy wagons. Then the DNC could get back to the real work of electing the BEST candidate for POTUS.

    Anything less will be a felony.

  • Shainzona

    You aren’t wrong – BO will/has told his best choice for military and homeland security advice that he’s not needed…no reason to be there to support “me”. You’re not important.

    Even if Clark had other things scheduled, he would have soldiered on on behalf of BO and put in his appearance and done his best to show “unity”.

    Not needed, BO has said.

  • Hope is the last to die

    This year it’s all about color. You didn’t think the DNC accidentally picked August 28th the last day for the convention. They picked that date a couple of years ago, the day the nominee will give his big speech. That particular day just happens to be the 45th anniversary of Martin Luther King’s ‘I have a dream’ -speech.

    It’s the perfect photo-op. The almost-Kennedy will cite King and make himself look like a freedom fighter. Press will go wild and talk about it for weeks. It’s all so cool. Unfortunately Nancy and Dean forgot little things like leading a country in dangerous, unstable times when they were orchestrating this coolness.

  • roseeriter

    You?

  • Anee

    Yes we will go, away from the Democratic party, thank you very much. Soetoro has single-handedly destroyed the Dems.
    Added to the list of uninvited, Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Sr. … guess what Dean meant to say was that the Dem party is the white party not the Repubs.

  • http://IthinkIfeel... Tricia Spiegel

    Oh please–Serb sympathizers have gotten to you.

  • http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/ NotYoursweetie

    He threw him under the bus even as he was stealing his speech (“the new American Patriotism”). So this is nothing unexpected. I was a Clark drafter – and at this point, had I been an Obama supporter I’d sever my ties in a NY minute. Just over this.

  • DeniseB

    He doesn’t just want to be the party leader; he wants ALL the old leadership either gone or on their knees. If he wins there is no longer a Democratic Party.

  • NO for O

    This group is about snittiness and spitefulness. It is going to shoot them in the foot.

  • gotalife

    OMG.

    He tossed the great General under the bus.

    I hope he has a meltdown in the wingnut debate just starting.

  • an observer

    Think back.
    Eastern Europe was a problem while a British general was running the show.
    Bill gets rid of him and puts Clark in there.
    Suddenly, Eastern Europe isn’t a problem, it isn’t even in the news after that.
    Clark is a “gitter done” type of guy and has no British ties.
    That is, he didn’t get knighted for his efforts like Bush & Powell did for marching to Britian’s oders.
    So, the DNC and Obama pretty much show they speak english with a British accent and wear Union Jack panties by rejecting him.

  • Postmaster

    remember when obama told Gov Rendell, ‘I don’t need the people, I just need the checks?’ THe man, and I use the term loosely, is a pig.

  • Firefly

    OMG! bambi disses ALL the greatest American military and foreign policy minds – not an oversight…

  • Andy

    GW Bush?

  • an observer

    a great administration is too mild …… “outstanding” would be more appropriate.

  • missE

    Alegre posted a comment on Clemon’s blog and some wanker told her to “shut her PUMA ass up.”

    Haha! Getting on the bot’s nerves (if they have any). PUMA !

  • derridog

    You mean those wonderful Christians who were raping the Muslim women and even little girls?

  • standard

    Clark would have been a first rate Veep.
    Obama is letting himself be totally manipulated.

  • Northwest rain

    Of course he is! That’s my reading.

    Clark was too polite to tell Barry Soretoro to go to Hell. But Clark also wanted to honor Hillary’s request to support Barry.

    Clark wasn’t born yesterday — he knows politics and knows that Barry will soon crash and burn and take a substantial number of his court with him.

    No one in their right might wants to be part of a narcissistic, one note crazy like Barry Soretoro.

    Actually a reject by Barry is sort of a badge of Honor.

    Also Berry does NOT like the military nor anyone who is smarter than he is — Clark is both.

    PUMA

  • Katmoon

    Hooah!

  • Ivory Bill Woodpecker

    Is it possible that the Democratic establishment WANTS to lose this presidential election–because they suspect the next depression is coming during the next presidential term–and they want a member of the pachyderm party to take the lion’s share of the blame? And they didn’t let Hillary in on the secret?

    Or are they just that stupid?

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    At least you’re a SMART Clarkie. Your parents didn’t raise a fool, you’re seeing it as it is, and not through rose-colored coke-bottle glasses.

    There are some former Clark supporters, who, having consumed enough KoolAid to briefly float the TITANIC, sincerely believe that this public snub can only mean ONE THING!!

    That magically, somehow, some way, Wes Clark, staunch Clinton supporter for lo, these many years, will be named as …. (wait for it, get ready to laugh)….RUNNING MATE!!

    That at the LAST DRAMATIC MOMENT, to patriotic music and cannon firing festively, Wes will march into the stadium and take his place beside Der Fuehrer The Anointed One!!

    They’re convinced of this because…..

    THE MESSIAH has named “his” convention after Wes’s PAC!!!! SEEEEEEE???? You SEEEEEEEEEE? Why, it’s a SIGN!!! From the LORD, doncha know!!!!! A sign to the FAITHFUL!!!! Woooo-hoooo!!!!!

    There are more than a few batshit-dumb idiots who have sold themselves on this scenario. I guess that war flipflopping didn’t do it, that FISA flipflopping didn’t do it, all the people he’s thrown under the bus didn’t do it…these fool-tools just have no choice but to….. BELIEVE!!!!!

    They remind me of the child, who, when presented with a birthday pile of manure, cheerfully picks up the shovel and sets to work, believing “There must be a pony in here somewhere!”

    It is astounding, the levels of delusion amongst his supporters. The cognitive dissonance makes them cranky, though–which is why they come here and make fools of themselves.

  • Ivory Bill Woodpecker

    I would take “an observer”‘s observations with about half a shaker’s worth of salt. Given AO’s anti-British obsession, I smell a LaRouchie. ;)

  • politicsIsdirty

    Vengance that is Obama….may “karma” befall those who promote injustice.

  • democracyfirst

    There are not words to express what a disgusting excuse for a human being Barack Obama is.

  • politicsIsdirty

    Oooops! Sorry about that misspelling…
    Vengeance that is Obama. May “karma” befall those who promote injustice.

  • tek

    Hmm, “holds grudges and is petty.” He sure is a new, different kind of politician from George W. Bush.

  • Clara Barton

    After working closely with Clark and his supporters over the last few years,I feel I’m quite familiar with his thinking on this. Wes Clark offered his experience and advice and service to Obama once Hillary dropped out – not for her, but for this country. He knows better than many of us just what deep doodoo we’re in right now both internationally and domestically. He was and is willing to serve the country to do whatever he can to make things right. Even if it means doing so in an Obama administration.

  • janine

    Susan is so disengenuous in this article….how she conveys a completely negative and accusatory tone with her highlights. this is pathetic and not what a journalist should do. but it was expected because of her deep hatred of Obama and blaming anything that happens on him.

  • janine

    why ignore Joe Wilson???? Because the guy was so blatantly in love with Hillary and totally attacked Obama every step of the way during the primaries. He was relentless in his criticisms of everything Obama said….and couldn’t get enough of his hero Hillary – give me a break. James Clyborn said African Americans were slighted by Clinton – and now Big Bill says Clyborn was NEVER his friend, NEVER his supporter. The Clintons are furious at those who did not support them and have made that very clear. so it is hardly shocking that Obama might not be so receptive to those who attacked him relentlessly throughout the primaries. he has enough supporters who will help him.

  • Katmoon

    Thanks for coming and sharing your vigorous message of hope and unity. Obama supporters are always so positive and upbeat, it’s incredible how they can sway a persons vote. Really you are amazing, with your words, they can truly cause people to vote a certain way.

  • Ferdberfle

    Shut up Little Debbie. Your shtick was old a month ago.

  • Ferdberfle

    Big Bill says Clyborn was NEVER his friend,

    You are a liar. Bill said he was no longer friends. Your lies only help make your Anointed One a little weaker. Please keep lying.

  • Ferdberfle

    Shut up, Little Debbie. If it hurts when you come here, then stop doing it, dumbass.

  • Ferdberfle

    How about another Chimpy McFlightsuit? The codpiece was unfit for publication, to boot.

  • no waffles aka drkate

    Soetoro ’08? Wait, who is THAT guy?

    Oh, it’s Obama/Soetoro ’08

  • stodghie

    janine, your parole officer is looking for you.

  • no waffles aka drkate

    a big rainstorm would be just about right…a few tornados thrown in….cancelled due to weather…

  • stodghie

    caroline has hurt herself and the kennedy name. what a shame!

  • stodghie

    i’ll go with stupid. this has been in the works for a while.

  • stodghie

    ferdebutt, shut up!

  • Ferdberfle

    It was an attempt at humor, what with Oblablah trying to be the next Bush. It was not meant to offend.

  • Hope

    Me, too. Stupid fits.

  • artsykr

    Securing America…Ha…posted this around earlier…

    OK so I’ve been thinking…. the Super Delegates had better push for
    ALL pertinent paperwork showing obama is qualified to run for POTUS
    prior to the convention.. .and here’s why…as an opposing party I
    would LOVE to show how weak the Dems were on Homeland Security…if
    they couldn’t keep their party from being taken over how can we trust
    them with the country?
    Also as to the charter…again. ..”If we can’t trust them to adhere
    to their own Charter..how can we trust them to adhere to The
    Constitution?

    So WE need to push them to adhere to their own
    guidelines.. ..again.. .a really GREAT talking point for the
    Republicans. ..

    “IF WE CAN’T TRUST THE DEMOCRATS TO PROTECT THEIR OWN PARTY HOW CAN
    WE TRUST THEM TO PROTECT THE COUNTRY?”

    Can’t ya just see the ads now….?

    1.) Violated their own charter.
    2.) Allowed a hijacking of their own party by not checking the
    credentials of those they would have to lead the country?

    Might want to start getting this one out there far and wide and
    now…don’t wait for the GOP to do this or the DEms will never see
    the inside of the White House let alone the Oval Office…

    IT’s time their feet were held to the fire…

  • granny

    He can’t get the polls up to 50% so I guess he does not have enough help.

    Also: he must be forgetting that there are no causes in the General Election. Just secret balloting. No intimidation. No busloads of the local teenagers about to turn 18.

  • tue ton

    The most dangerous attacker against Obama is nobody other than Hillary. She emptied her inner force and her purse to paint her opponent unexperienced, not qualified for Potus; only her or McCain can be commander in chief. The Rep is still using her speech to give Mc Cain credit. If your argument about former ambassador Wilson stands, Hillary should be the first to be chased off from Obama’s side. I did want her to be commander in chief but she could not make it. That’s why I need McCain in her shoe.

  • CitizenLarrywellsfromNC

    timepassages,

    Why in the world would you be on that awful corny show???

    Those are the biggest hicks ever plus Ed Hale threatened Obama on his radio show.
    He threatened to pat Obama on the back with a butcher knife, now everyone knows I do not approve of BO but to threaten to stab him, well that is another story.
    Of course everyone knows who I am being from Greensboro N.C., a real estate broker and all but Ed and Momma what dreadful people they are. Poor Momma she lives in a home with a floor furnace from 1955, a double wide. Well she might need a few donations too.
    I heard they said Hillary would come on that show,
    what a joke, she never would. Those people are very sad people.
    I just luv Larry Sinclair though guys.
    Larry is my thriend, aw shucks what else can I say.

  • allimom99

    That’s why Hillary should choose him as her VP.

  • CitizenLarrywellsfromNC

    Don’t go time passages, don’t go!!!!”

    You will be a laughing stock like Eddie boy and MommaE.

    Everyone I know laughs and jokes like heck at those two, how amusing.
    Democrats or no, those two are retards!!!

  • Don

    A sudden mountain hail storm or even an early mountain snow would be nice starting about the time he takes the stage!

  • Wisewoman

    You must understand for Obama who has been schooled in Chicago-type dirty politics at the feet of Richard Daly, you don’t just “win” against your opponents you punish him/her and destroy him/her in the process. The reason being that you will never, ever have to compete against them again. That is Obama’s plan, goal and execution strategy in each and every instance. People he is running so hard because he knows if Patrick Fitzgerald has another 4 years (as he will under McCain) he, Daly, and the IL governor might end up indicted and in prison. If he wins Fitzgerald will get the boot and he and his boys will be saved. That is all he cares about therefore he will say anything and do anything to win

  • jrterrier

    like nixon and W, O only wants loyalists. Clark goes way back with the Clintons so he doesn’t trust him. the only reason he is including Govs Strickland (OH) and Rendell (PA) is that without OH and PA, he cannot win.

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  • Sassy

    I had truly wished to see Wesley Clark as Hillary’s VP!
    He is a Rhodes Scholar, with a humble background…he was honorable and diligent in bettering himself!
    I saw him in the background at many of Hillary’s events, and he was firmly in her camp!
    The one comment he made did not create this problem…the vindictive weasel does not want to be up-staged by COMPETENT people who are LOYAL to the Clintons!
    This rookie can not stand in the same light as true Americans!!!!

  • DAB

    I agree that Hale is not the anti-Obama image that you want out there.

  • DAB

    Yes, must scrub the “Old Guard” from the roster — might be embarrassing.

    What a gesture of comity and reconciliation it would have been to let Jessie speak but BO seems incapable of any generosity. What did Sharpton do to him other than support him by the way?

  • DAB

    I saw Clark no Fox a day or two ago and he was very impressive in his assessment of the Georgia situation. they are throwing away a major asset when they dismiss him from their inner circle.

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