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My Hillary Dejection

On Wednesday, August 6, I spoke with Hillary Clinton for the first time since she suspended her Presidential campaign. She held a thank-you reception in Manhattan for those of us who helped her.

My role in her campaign was as a volunteer advisor. My focus was on older voter issues and strategy. In every primary and caucus, including those where Senator Obama won big, Senator Clinton carried older voters by huge margins. I like to say that, if we could have raised the voting age to 50, she would have wrapped up the nomination last spring. I’m still getting emails from senior leaders and supporters of Senator Clinton in which they swear that they will either sit out the general election or actually vote for John McCain.

I attended this event hoping that she’d be able to lift me, along with so many of her most fervent supporters, out of our continued funk. Although I have had recent conversations with the Obama campaign about older voters, whom polls show he is losing to Senator McCain by double-digit margins, my heart still isn’t in it. I’ve been asking myself and others who feel the same way: Why is it taking us so long to, in the words of Obama supporters, “get over it?”

Now that it seems certain that Senator Clinton will not be Senator Obama’s running mate, I’ve come to grips with the fact that this Presidential campaign will not include Hillary Clinton’s voice and presence front and center. Over the past few months, I’ve missed her being in the daily political news. This void will now last through the general election.

What I’m seeing instead, and what has kept me from enthusiastically supporting Senator Obama thus far, is a replay of the primary/caucus contest. Each day in the give-and-take between the Obama and McCain camps I’m reminded of what had happened in the earlier campaign. From the questions of experience, qualifications, and substance, to the awful alleged playing of the race card, I can’t help but see a rerun unfolding.

What concerns me most, however, is the likely outcome. Senator Clinton ran her campaign for the nomination with an astute eye toward the general election. She knew that a Democratic candidate who catered too narrowly to our party’s base of activists (of which I’m one) would have a difficult time winning over independent voters, who will decide the election in November.

Unlike Senator Obama, who (as one of Senator Clinton’s Texas supporters has noted) has positioned himself as a candidate of transformation and is running essentially on his persona, she took on the mantle of transition and ran more on her policies. While the Obama coalition was focused more on the affluent and the highly educated, her case was directed largely at middle-class and lower-income voters. In contrast with Senator Obama’s appeal to hope as the dominant emotion, hers was to confidence as a more compelling response to the predictable Republican play to fear. In many ways (as
I’ve written before in a letter published in the May 6th edition of The New York Times), her approach was similar to the Presidential campaign of Robert F. Kennedy, for whom I worked forty years ago and who still inspires everything I do politically. I believe that her strategy was the right one for a Democratic victory in November.

In a good-faith attempt to feel better about Senator Obama, I went back to his earliest speeches at the start of his candidacy to see what I had missed. I was struck by the not-so-subtle attacks on the Clinton years and his negative portrayal of Senator Clinton’s motives that were at the heart of his pitch. For example, in December 2007 in Des Moines, Iowa, Senator Obama opened his “Our Moment is Now” speech by noting that he was not running for the Presidency “to fulfill some long-held ambition or because I believed it was somehow owed to me.” He later added: “But you can’t at once argue that you’re the master of a broken system in Washington and offer yourself as the person to change it.”

I also went back to his book, “The Audacity of Hope,” in which he belittles “the psychodrama of the Baby Boom generation.” As Matt Bai wrote in The New York Times: “Obama, meanwhile, has been going after the Clinton legacy with a third story line: Boomer fatigue…If you really want things to stay that way, he says, then vote for another Clinton and watch these self-obsessed baby boomers go at it all over again.” As a Boomer myself, I did see Senator Clinton as a quintessential candidate of my generation.

In November, voters aged 44 to 62, will constitute at least one-third of the vote and will play a critical role in key battleground states. For Boomers, the election of 2008 might have been our last chance to give the nation a leader from our ranks, who might fulfill our world-changing promise of the sixties. Many of us feel that, despite our size and our passions, we have not yet delivered on that promise. Ironically, Senator Obama, who by and large denigrates the sixties, has put himself forward as precisely the type of candidate we thought we would generate. Yet Senator Clinton, who is much more a product of the sixties, focused with more precision and depth on those issues that appeal most to this generation, such as retirement security, health care, economic justice, and human rights. And it is the absence of substantive discussion of these issues that I’m also missing in the campaign thus far.

Compounding this dismay is the apparent attempt by the Democratic Party to conduct a very different type of convention in Denver than we have historically had. In response, several groups have been formed to press the party leadership for an open convention. (I wrote about the prospect of an open convention several months ago. If you did not get a copy and would like to receive one, please send me an email with the word “CONVENTION” in the subject matter.) One of them, The Denver Group (www.thedenvergroup.blogspot.com) is calling upon delegates to sign a petition to place Senator Clinton’s name in nomination, along with Senator Obama’s. This will ensure that the roll call of the states and their delegations will reflect the results of their primaries and caucuses. It will also enable pledged delegates and superdelegates to go on record on the first ballot with their choice of a Presidential candidate. In the words of The Denver Group: “We must strive for a true sense of unity in the Party and avoid the damaging upheaval that would accompany a counterfeit consensus.”

So, what did I expect last evening? If Hillary Clinton had looked me in the eye and said, “Bill, do for Barack Obama exactly what you were doing and would have done for me,” then I would devote all of my energy to helping him and would encourage others to do the same.

Instead, what I heard was a candid acknowledgment that it is taking more time for some to transfer their enthusiasm to another candidate after so closely contested and contentious a campaign for the nomination. Senator Clinton did say that she preferred that we make as our top priority uniting to elect a Democratic President in November. She offered, however, as an alternative that we work hard to elect more Democrats to the Senate. Sitting on the sidelines in this critical election is simply not an option.

I believe that the burden remains on Senator Obama, his campaign team, and the leadership of the Democratic Party to show genuine respect for Senator Clinton’s candidacy — its content, character and constituencies — and provide real opportunities for her supporters to play meaningful roles in the fall campaign.

  • katmandu

    Thank you for this heartfelt assessment. It is the kind of dilemma many of us are facing.

    Off topic — Stanley Kurtz at NRO says he is running into a roadblock trying to get to the papers that detail the roles of Bill Ayers and Obama vis a vis the Annenberg Challenge. See http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MTgwZTVmN2QyNzk2MmUxMzA5OTg0ODZlM2Y2OGI0NDM= and the always enlightening
    Real Barack Obama blog –

    http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/08/18/ayers-obama-chicago-annenberg-challenge-cover-up/

    And for humor, I recommend this video of the Georgian president eating his necktie:

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=09a_1218873426

    • http://www.hillaryloyalistnowformccain.com valsthewoman

      All I can say is there are too many problems with the inner man of Obama. He has lived his life by a different set of standards that the majority of the population must follow. NEWSFLASH OBAMA you are not entitled to THIS JOB BECAUSE YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF BLACK….. YOU LACK IN EXPERIENCE AND JUDGEMENT. NO THANK YOU MCCAIN WILL WORK FOR ME ALONG WITH THE REWARD OF A STRAIGHT REPUBLICAN TICKET TO HONOR THE DUMMYCRATS.

      • http://BHOtroll sakel

        valsthewoman

        I disagree. Obama does not think of Himself as ‘black’. He does not think of Himself as ‘white’ either. He’s damn CONFUSED about his identity and everything else. Although I agree after reading (not buying!) his dreadful me-andering book that he “harbored deep resentment against my mother’s race”.
        Guess that’s why he let his 2 girls go to the Church of Hate and watch the REv. Uncle Jeremiah gyrate on the pulpit obscenely telling the crowd: “this is whatBill did to us, what he did to Monica”! How could any parent allow their kids to witness sexual act simulation in Church escapes me!

        I am not a social conservative, but I would have taken my kids out of that toxic environment in two seconds. And posted an X-RATED PORN warning outside the church to prevent CHILDREN from going inside!

        Obambi’s a confused gypsy who steals elections from his African American mentors (Sen. Alice Palmer, HRC supporter!) and steals nominations from his feared, worthier female opponent HRC.

        Guess he didn’t grow up to discover (as he said at Saddleback) that “other people count and it’s not always about ME”!

        Amen.

      • Georgia

        Obama does not share my values, my ethics, my standards, my culture and my American Heritage. He didn’t grow up playing little league. He didn’t proudly march down main street in a 4th of July parade. Does he have family members who served in both world wars? Did he stand at attention, hand over heart and say the pledge of allegiance as a kid before the start of the school day? Does he know what it means to be a boy scout? Did you ever go fishing with Grandpa Mr. Obama? Did Grandpa teach you a little woodworking as he shared his view of the world? Did momma teach you that in the end, we all have to answer to a higher authority? Did anyone in the convoluted family of yours teach you that there are things worth living for and yes sir, Mr. Obama there are things worth dieing for? Did any one teach you any of this stuff? This is what’s made our country proud and strong. This is the backbone of the country. This is the middle class. This is what I’m most proud of. How about you Mr. Obama sir….. just what exactly were you taught

  • HARP

    Hillary can vote for who ever she wants. My vote for McCain will cancel her`s out. I will not blindly follow the DNC off the cliff. Not even for you Hillary.

    • roseeriter

      Sorry Hill. No Can Do Either.

      Nobama Ever!

      • james andrews

        McCain is so much closer to the values Hillary fought for than Obama. He is just a personality and it might have worked if his handlers had kept him away from the public and the press until election day. He is so lost when he has to answer a question without a teleprompter.

    • wodiej

      Ssme here

    • Newly Independent

      I agree completely.

      • OBSP

        Love you Hill, but No Deal!

        • Shainzona

          Two 62 year olds in this house agree. NObama. Ever.

          • HARP

            Two 61`s here want Hill for 44.

            • Dee

              This 63 year old will vote for McCain. Love Hillary but can’t follow her advice. My first time ever to vote for a Republican.

              I can’t even vote for Senator Dole’s Democrat opponent here because she endorsed Obama early. Guess I will leave it blank.

              Same for down ticket Dems that I have contributed to and worked for for years. No vote will be cast for them because of early endorsements.

              Looking for a new party…

    • Sharon

      I agree. This 58 year old will vote for McCain.

      • Nancy

        Two in this household and 2 grown children in the family say NO WAY TO OBAMY. NO MEANS NO.

        • http://! Buzz Latte

          Voters ranging from 46 to 93 in this family. Six votes for McCain in all, despite all of us being life-long democrats.

          Obama doesn’t represent any of us!

          • Aidyn

            one 19 year old here, say NO to BO!

            • athena

              Aidyn your 20 now!

        • Susan

          43 year old voting no to Obama. I will vote McCain after naver having voted Republican for POTUS before. Many of my dem friends will vote McCain or sit out as well.

          Plus, one loyal dem I know who was going to support Obama had to admit to me last night that Clinton was the electable candidate and he fears Obama will lose big.

          • splashy

            No to McCain. If you want to vote for someone that is not Obama, vote McKinney or Nader.

        • THE MAGUS

          I cannot and will not vote for the biggest political fraud our country has ever witnessed. Sorry, but when Obama played the race card against the two people(Clintons) who fought their entire lives for civil rights, he lost me entirely.
          Never Obama.

      • SaraInPA

        This 26 year old will, too. You’d be surprised by how many of my friends and associates (college educated and not) are Hillary supporters who now back McCain. The 25-35 year old professionals are not all Obamabots.

        • no vote for Oblabla

          I agree with you Sara. My daughter, a professional, is 30. She, her fiancé and their group of friends are all now backing McCain.

          I’m 53, my husband is 47 and both of us are now supporting McCain.

          Hillary ’12
          McCain ’08

          Øbama not now and not ever!

    • Peggy Sue

      I agree. I switched to an Independent because of this years despicable Democratic primary and a leadership that was unwilling to admit let alone take a stand against rampant sexism. I will not vote for Obama and his crew, not even with Hillary Clinton’s prodding. I respect her now and I hope to have a chance to vote for her at a later date.

      But I still own my vote and that vote will go to John McCain.

      • Sharon

        I agree and after my state’s primary I switched to an Independent too. This will be the first time that I will vote for a Republican. If someone told me this 4 years ago or even 2 I would have said no way and bet my life on it.

    • Kat5

      A soon-to-be-61′er and a guy of 54 here – both lifelong libs who will NOT be voting for The One. Not now. Not ever.

      • HARP

        Now THATS what I`m talking about.

      • Rob in Chicago

        My wife and I wear our P.U.M.A. bracelets proudly. Neither one of us have voted for Republicans on a national ballot at any time in the past (I have voted for one Republican for the Cook (“Crook”) County Board.) I have problems with some of McCain’s stands on many issues, but I am pretty sure that I know where he stands. I can’t say the same about the ever-changing positions of Obama. Illinois will likely go for Obama anyway, so a vote for McCain will cut into his margin of victory, and will make the statement that my wife and I seek to make; Obama is an unacceptable candidate for POTUS. The DNC chose to disrespect and disenfrancise our best available candidate, and to go with the empty suit instead, and we’re expected to accept and encourage that behavior ? No way, No how. These grandparents are voting for Gramps McCain.

      • bodemokrat

        49 yrs old, Been voting straight dem for 39 yrs
        This year it’s John McCain.
        BO cannot even hold a candle to him.

      • splashy

        You can vote for McKinney. She’s a real liberal, in all senses of the word.

        McCain is not, and never will be.

        • mimi

          After what the Liberals/Progressives did this Primary season, I say: “screw liberals.”

          I’m not one!

          I’m not wasting my vote on McKinney so 0bama can sneak a win.

          Fuck that!

          I’m voting for McCain. If Democrats & Liberals were so concerned about not having a Republican, then they all should have stood behind Hillary instead of demonizing her and the Clinton legacy.

          I’m done with the Democratic Party. I want to see them crash and burn and a new Party take it’s place.

    • vinnie

      Yep, she can do whatever she wants, it’s America. My vote is my own, no one can intimate me, guilt me, or buy it from me. Hill, love you, but girl, you’ve been bamboozled. I already convinced six members of my family to not sit out but to go and vote for McC. This is America, and it’s not for sale to Barry and his pathetic Dem party.

  • http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

    Expect an August suprise.

    Imploding is running rampid in Obamaland.

    • HARP

      Praise the Karma Gods.

    • mkm125

      Yup!

    • http://undercoverblackman.blogspot.com Undercover Black Man

      Perhaps the real “surprise” will come from Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain.

  • skmf12

    OKAY, WELL I FEEL YOUR PAIN…

    but i am a little hopeful that she didnt tell you
    to go out and fight for barack frankly…

    i have been disappointed in hillary,
    since SHE CHOSE PARTY OVER PEOPLE.

    i’m not the only one that thinks that
    HILLARY HAS SOME SPLAINING TO DO, when this is all
    over…
    anyway, glad she is not drunk on koolaide…

    • Ellen D.

      Don’t be so hard on Hillary.

      Donna Brazile said that to reform the Democrats you first have to destroy the party. Given the people at the top right now, I believe Hillary agrees with her.

      I also believe Hillary is wise enough to know the truth of the old saying (Paraphrased because I can’t remember who said it), that if your opponent is determined to destroy himself, all that is needed is to step back and let him do it.

      • SaraInPA

        Very good point!

      • FranSC

        To: Ellen. I think that is an old saying, but the first time I heard it in reference to politics was when the late Republican strategist, Lee Atwater said:

        “When something is in the midst of destroying itself, why interfere?”

        There is another saying in politics that Hillary is adhering to and that is if you want a future in politics you must pick yourself up after a defeat, support the party of your choice and its candidates, and be a good loser. (That doesn’t mean us, thankfully, because I am a furious loser this time with no end in sight).

        The only noteable exception to that was Richard Nixon after he lost the presidency to John Kennedy and then the CA governor’s race, he said to the press, “You won’t have Dick Nixon to kick around anymore” – only to come back in ’68 to win the presidency.

        BTW, next week’s convention is being compared to the revolutionary 1968 Democratic Nat’l Convention. So, for the astrology buffs among us, according to the articles I’ve read, the astrological aspects for the 2008 Dem Nat’l Conv look very similar to the planetary aleignments during the 1968 convention. According to this, it will be quite contentious. I love happy endings. Don’t you?

  • anna shane

    I agree, we have great energy and drive and we followed the ‘issue’s debate closely. We weren’t all for her at the start, she won us. She isn’t dismissing those of us who will have a hard time voting for Barack and she’s not just telling us what to do – she knows that we have points and that it’s up to Barack to address them, to bring us on his side. Clearly asking her onto the ticket as a great resource and a strong vice president, I mean, there is more than enough work and few enough experts to make dents in it, would show that his ‘change’ message which is a it’s center compromise and consensus, it a real position, that can best be demonstrated by giving Democrats the unity ticket, the consensus ticket.

    I Hope you’re mistaken and that Barack will not make such a mistake, will not insist on his own ‘judgement,’ but will defer to the 18 mil that voted for her.

    • HARP

      My concern is Hillary will go to far and ruin her chances for 2012. Now if she KNOWS a game changer is coming, then it would make sense to look united. Time will tell…..

      • wodiej

        I agree…

      • catherine

        I strongly suspect that in fact there IS a game changer around the corner.

        • Susan

          I hope so!

    • wodiej

      Obama is not getting my vote no matter what.

      • standard

        Nor mine.
        I will not vote for someone who ran the
        kind of scorched earth campaign he did in the primaries.
        Nor will I vote for a candidate who was not the choice of the party majority, but who was forced through with major help from a moron with too much money by the name of Soros.

  • NObama in August

    I think the DNC is aggressively trying to make us feel dejected. Why, so we won’t fight anymore or at the convention. That we will give up.

    Isn’t what they have done to us since Feb?

    Why are we falling for it again?

    • roseeriter

      That’s exactly what abusers do they beat you until you give up.

      Won’t work with me. I own my vote.

      • HARP

        roseeriter..My wife works at a womens abuse center and you are bang on. The saddest thing to watch, is they go back time and time again, usually because of the kids.

    • helen

      These fools woke a sleeping giant.
      This country will not be the same compliant one party voters again.
      Seeing what the dnc did in this election made a lot of us more willing to fight for the best for this country.
      We got lazy and forgot to be vigilant to keep a free America.
      That will not happen again for a long time.
      I am almost 70 and will never vote for backtrack barack.

      COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

      PUMAS,BUBBAS, AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

    • fif

      Who’s fallin for it? I’m am steadfast. Nothing they do or say will sway my conviction to fight for democracy, not their phony, rigged, power/money-hungry sham. PUMA will continue no matter what happens in Denver or beyond. We watched them hijack our Party–they will pay for that, now and/or later.

      • NObama in August

        The comments I am reading here sound like they have given up on convention. I think this is the time to fight the most for Hillary for nominee. Especially after the ‘debate’ on Saturday.

        • NObama in August

          Ok, I’ll update my above comment (after reading more comments here). Maybe there is something around the corner we know nothing about. I hope so.

  • skmf12

    nobama,

    astute observation.
    and they used our own candidate against us!
    how evil…

    than again, why did she let them, she knows
    what they are doing to us…

    • NObama in August

      I truly feel she couldn’t do anything about it.

  • http://confloyd connie floyd

    Mel, I agree with you, imploding is coming very soon, we all need to sit back and let Hillary have her head, she knows what she is doing! BTW(let Hillary have her head is a horsemen’s term meaning slack up on the reins and let the horse have control of her head and the horse will not fall and will have balance)!

    • skmf12

      we’ve been saying ‘he’ll implode’ thing for months and months…
      nothing sticks to this guy.
      he is the teflon man.

      hard to believe anymore.
      i am fully prepared to go ‘mccain’, unfortunately…

      • snosandy

        Comment by skmf12 | 2008-08-18 12:40:23

        “we’ve been saying ‘he’ll implode’ thing for months and months…
        nothing sticks to this guy.
        he is the teflon man.”

        I have been saying for months that he is the teflon man…..exactly like George Bush. Every negative about both those men has rolled right off of them. That is precisely why I will not vote for him.

      • splashy

        Not me. I’m more likely to go for the other Mc, McKinney. She’s more like what I want when it comes to issues. No need to go with a Repub, they just screw us all.

    • IndigoGrrl

      the time is NOW for the implosion …otherwise whomever gets the VP spot may end up being our nominee. the DNC will do anything to keep her out

  • Pragmatist

    I stopped paying attention to Democratic so-called leadership and the DNC long ago; it’s very clear that they are on a suicide mission with the BIG ZERO as their guide; i plan on voting for McCain (unless Hillary miraculously becomens the nominee . . . although I’m not a believer in miracles).

  • HARP

    Mother of all flip flops… Suppose he picks his VP and the polls go south …would he change his mind and pick another VP ???

    • missE

      lol, That is not the VP I knew.

      I caught some of Rush in the car feeling sorry for Caroline Kennedy’s job of having to find a VP with a weaker resume than Obama’s so they don’t highlight how unqualified he is.

      • Zeke

        There’s a kid down at the 7-11 who might at least interview for the job… says he’s just after better pay…

    • http://www.ushistory.org/Declaration/document/index.htm Hillary’sSimplytheBest

      If he picks anyone but Hillary his numbers will go south or not change. He can’t change his vp once he picks one. Do overs for vp pick, don’t think so. Never heard of that happening.

      I don’t want him to pick (use) Hillary to win, she should be the top ticket and he should just go back to Chicargo and stay there!!

      I don’t trust him and could never vote for him even with Hillary on the ticket. I love Hill, but sorry no deal.

      • Steve in KC

        “Do overs for vp pick, don’t think so. Never heard of that happening.”

        Actually, does the name Thomas Eagleton ring a bell?
        From Wiki:
        “Between 1960 and 1966, Eagleton checked himself into the hospital three times for physical and nervous exhaustion, receiving electric shock treatments twice…
        Having been declined by the “name” Senators, McGovern turned to lesser-known candidates, and Eagleton, who had opposed the Vietnam War, was selected on July 14 with only a minimal background check…
        McGovern said he would back Eagleton “1000%”, but on August 1, Eagleton withdrew at McGovern’s request and, after new search by McGovern, was replaced by Kennedy in-law Sargent Shriver.”

        • Liberty Belle_never4Obama

          Sargent Shriver is Caroline Kennedy’s uncle (Maria’s dad, and distinguished by running the Peace Corps during JFK’s administration and the War On Poverty programs during LBJ’s administration).

      • PewL

        I’m hoping Hillary is the nominee,and its her picking her VP..I hope Obama is just playing along, and will drop out…

        Clinton for President

  • Bell’Artista

    Gee,William.
    I feel your pain and I am sorry you are so angst filled but no one, not Hillary or Bill, NO ONE could ever persuade me to vote for Barry Soetoro or whatever his name is.
    There is no way ever that I will place the possibility of vaporizing our world anywhere near that ignoramus.
    Today I filled out my primary ballot for Washington State, some new thing and with a sense of sadness, tinged with a bit of revenge…. I voted a straight Republican ticket as all all the spineless Dems here
    continue to support the biggest moron in political history.
    Donna Brazile announced she, as mouthpiece for the DNC, didn’t need my vote, well fine, I guess Christine Gregoire and Jay Inslee don’t either.

    Country Before Party

    • wodiej

      thank you, I commend you for this. I too will be voting straight Republican ticket this year. I had considered a Dem for Governor until I heard she supports Obama. The Dem running against our Republican Senator called me and talked to me a long time. I asked if he was supporting Obama and he kind of hesitated and mumbled that he kind of was. I said, you know what, I can’t stand the Republican in my district but I am going to vote for him anyway because I am not supporting anyone who supports Barack Obama-AND I MEAN NO ONE, NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON. Nobody owns my vote, not this party, not Bill and Hillary Clinton, NO ONE.

      • Seattle Moss

        The most liberating thing I have done in years is walk in a parade for the Republican Dino Rossi.
        The whole time I received special treatment from all the republicans, especially Dino and his wife.
        I was proud to be a swing voter and they were happy to bring me aboard.
        I’m actually enjoying this new feeling!

        Nobody owns me anymore!
        I refuse to carry the water for a party that doesn’t represent me.
        Go screw yourself Demokrats!!

        • Zeke

          Dino’s a nice guy, I’m told.
          For you non-Northwesterners, Dino Rossi ran for governor of Washington state and by dint of 800 dead “voters” in Seattle, lost the election to Gregiore.
          His new bumper sticker for this election reads
          “Re-elect Rossi ’08″

    • snosandy

      I put my WA state ballot in the mail today, having voted the same way you did. I actually felt bad not voting for Inslee since he was one of Hillary’s superdelegates, but I felt I had to send the party a message. Also, I think Inslee switched to Obama after the primaries. Only Cantwell and Murray stayed with her and neither are on the ballot this year.

    • elise

      William’s post addresses my feelings about this outcome of the primary pretty well. Dejection, poignancy, regret and anger. But isn’t this label of “boomer” sad also? I’ve never liked it, although I suppose it is better than x,y or zgen. There are so many other things which defined the 60s and 70s better than just being born post war and post greatest gen. Obama’s rejection of the upheaval and real pain is just another reason to question the depth of his understanding. I am angry anyone would compare him to JFK, MLK or Bobby Kennedy. His personal struggle to find his identity as a bi racial man raised by middle class white grandparents seems shallow and superficial to those who fought for Civil Rights, against the war in Vietnam and women’s rights. His rejection of the Clintons life of service and dedication strikes me as selfish and egocentric. My admiration and affection for Hillary and Bill will not change because they have (publicly) said they will support Obama. I have lived long enough to know not to judge their choice and, at the same time, make the decision I feel is right for me. I’ve received an email from both in the last few days asking donations and support for Obama. I want to help pay off Hillary’s debt, but I’m afraid any donation I make now could go to the DNC or Obama. Maybe they were ransome notes because I feel they are being held captive.

  • no waffles aka drkate

    Beautifully written and heart felt, thank you.

    I won’t be voting for Obama/Soetoro.

    Sometimes I wonder if there will ever be another chance for HRC.

    • Susan

      Seeing Obama/Soetoro together made me wonder if he will nominaete his alter ego Soetoro and then because his lies are whoppers, say that Soetoro is not him, it is a twin brother! He will then play both parts, just like on a soap opera, because he is just that awesome, in his own opinion!

      I wonder if he had himself cloned yet?

  • Hope

    The reason Senator Clinton’s backing of Obama is so difficult to accept or follow is because, as I have said many times, ANYONE who supports such a terrible candidate diminishes their own credibility.

    It is beyond hard to comprehend why someone who should(and I believe does in Hillary’s case) have our best interest at heart would push a person of such little moral character and even less aptitude for compassion toward Americans on us. It feels like a betrayal.

    His actions have been reprehensible and he has shown no willingness to work for American ideals. It is indefensible and anyone who tries to defend him gives the impression they themselves approve of that kind of behavior.

    • skmf12

      hope,

      EXACTLY!!!!

      we teach our children, to make hard decisions,
      we tell them, “JUST SAY NO”.

      hillary said yes, and it is confusing, and hurtful…

    • CountryFirst

      I’ve long been disappointed in seeing Hillary work for Barack Obama. It’s hard to stomach seeing her back such a clearly unqualified person, no matter what the party. The two voters in this household will be voting for a Republican for President for the first time in their history of voting. In fact, we may just vote a straight Republican ticket – thanks to the actions of the likes of Kerry, Kennedy, Reid, and Pelosi in the primary. We won’t go back until we see the demise of the Super Delegate-DirtyCaucus system. We own our own votes and we put Country First! We will be changing our registration to Independent at the end of the General Election.

  • Seattle Moss

    The democrat party is a toxic zone.
    How foolish of them to believe they could throw out the base of the party.
    I’m done with these losers!

    For me it’s straight republican ticket this year.
    Especially here in Washington state where they have no concept of
    One person One vote.

    I’m just glad that McCain is the real deal.
    Great to be voting for him and not just against the fix.

    • no waffles aka drkate

      yes, I must say I feel revenge too. And I’ll be serving it up with a straight, cold, republican ticket, first time in my life!

      I appreciate why hill has to do what she is doing, but it is sad for me especially because I think she knows about the ineligibility of Soetoro.

      I’d far rather have had her take a long vacation, even excluding the convention, after she suspended her campaign. Just leave the dems to their own demise.

      • Seattle Moss

        Hillary realizes like the rest of us that Obama and his youth hijacked this party. of course they are now being exposed and will crash and burn by election day.
        The story on election day will be the size of the landslide.
        McCain 65% to Obama 35%
        Dean has made sure that the democrats have been marginalized by excluding whites.
        The AA will be hugely embarrased by this outcome which may even include race tensions unseen in 40 years.
        The democrats will be forced to turn back to the Clinton’s to save the party.
        I’m not sure at this point if it’s worth saving

        • Susan

          For 2012, th Clintons should start a centrist or moderate party. They would be successful beyond their dreams!

          • Wisewoman

            I so heartily agree. I hope they do start a Centrist Independent party. Think of all the help they would get from Lou Dobbs and from people on this and other justsaynodeal blogs. I am an AA female supporter of Hillary now and forever. I can not vote for the race-baiting Obama, ever!! My immediate family of a husband, 2 daughters and a son-in-law was 100% for Hillary. Now of the 5 of us only 2 (me and my 27 yr old) will vote for McCain. In all there are 10 sisters and brothers. Only 2 of us supported Hillary and will now vote for McCain, the rest plan to vote for Obaam.

            • snosandy

              This year proves beyond doubt that our country is ready for a viable third party. And Hillary Clinton is just the person who should start a new party.

          • snosandy

            This year proves beyond doubt that we need a viable third party. And Hillary Clinton is just the person to start that party.

  • Hadrianus

    I am no longer engaging in any hand wringing over my intention of casting my vote for McCain. There is no reason anymore for me to support the Democratic nominee as he represents everything I abhor and loathe in a politician–insincerity. There is no reason for me to support the Democratic party, as that party no longer espouses the values and ethics that I originally joined it for forty years ago. Initially, I thought that I could support any or all of the candidates that the party put up for our consideration, but with every passing day, my disgust for Obama, his mindless minions, and his enablers only grows stronger and more virulent. If this hybrid creature looses the general election, there may be hope to reform the party and purge it of those who ensured that we would once again be defeated. Should he win, we need for create a new party for the millions who, like me cannot and will not vote for this opportunistic bastard,and eschew everything the so-called Democratic party now represents.

    • HARP

      I agree, Its like once you decide the marriage is over, everything becomes crystal clear. I urge any Bots that are feeling unsure to do some soul searching and join us at NQ. Besides we have more fun than any other site.

    • Irish1139

      “Should he win, we need
      for create a new party for
      the millions who, like me
      cannot and will not vote
      for this opportunistic
      bastard,and eschew
      everything the so-called
      Democratic party now
      represents.”

      This is exactly what I want to do whether he wins or not. The DNC is dead to me. I want to spit on Pelosi. I never thought I would say such a thing about another woman but I am feeling really bitter about a lot of things.

      I will vote Republican for the first time right down the line.
      I don’t agree with a lot McCain says but I can see his character is full of courage and integrity.
      I can stand four years of it.

      • athena

        Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and Kerry are the MOST DEVISIVE politicians in Ameica. And to think they tried to pin that one on Hillary! Pfft!

  • SFK

    Thank you, William.
    I feel no “unity” with an undemocratic party and all that it has done to support a liar, narcissist, arrogant, sexist inexperienced fraud, who has too many unsavory associates, an upbringing with too many unanswered questions, a wife who would be an embarrassment in the White House, etc.

    Too bad for Baby Boomers. They will get a Pre-Baby Boomer president. Hillary must support the party, but that doesn’t mean we admire her for it. Seeing her this a.m. with Judas Bill hugging her in NM was revolting.

  • TriciaNC

    Important Call to Action!

    National Review Online Editor Stanley Kurtz is attempting to gain access to the extensive internal files of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, the Bill Ayers’ foundation on whose board Obama once served.
    These files could provide important information on the relationship between Ayers and Obama. Also information about Obama’s links to other radicals and the foundation grants he approved to political allies.
    The collection is housed at the Richard J. Daley Library at the University of Illinois – Chicago ( UIC ).
    After initially being granted written access to these files, Kurtz was later informed ” that access to the collection is closed”.
    Email the President of the University of Illinois, B. Joseph White, to ask him to ensure the safety of the Collection, to identify the identity of its’ owner, and to immediately make the Collection available to Mr. Kurtz, other researchers, and the public at large.
    PresidentWhite@uillinois.edu

    • missE

      Thanks for that email, I will be happy to help out.

    • CountryFirst

      Done!

    • Raven

      Along the same topic: “Ayers”
      Didn’t Obama at one point receive a major contribution from William Ayers’s father who is
      very wealthy? I’ve seen no mention of this in the
      MSM, only memtion of the son’s past activities.

  • Condie Rice

    NO WAY Hillary – you may have sold out (for reason unknown) but I have not ! no vote for BHO from this EX-Dem

    • standard

      She didn’t sell out.
      She would be unable accomplish anything in the Senate if she alienated the geezers.

      • CJ

        I agree. Hillary knows how to handle her opponents. That is one of the reasons why I voted for her — tenacity, strength and brains!

  • Polly

    I left Hillary behind somewhere around the “unity” meeting. I will never vote for Obama.

    • CheapEmptySuit

      OBOTS and Obamacans…If you are having a change of heart and are thinking of becoming a PUMA, this video on Fraudbamas real views may help change your mind.
      FRAUDBAMA IS FOR KILLING FULL TERM BABIES-ONE NURSES STORY
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdbYjmbFzo
      from nohussein.org

      Oh and I’m not going to jump on the band wagon HERE and blame Hillary. Everyone from every party seems t like to do that. Naaaa Uhhhh not me. I’m not blaming Hillary FOR Fraudbama’s creepy MACK DADDY hustling ACT.
      Blame Oprah. Blame Soros. Blame Dean,Pelosi or Donkey nuts. Leave Hill alone! HILL IS BEING GRACIOUS AS ALWAYS. SHE WILL BE THE NOMINEE! PLAY ALONG TO GET ALONG. NO BEING HONEST TO A FAULT AND GIVE SECRETS AWAY.

      • Susan

        I agree. We have to ask ourselves what we would do if we were Hillary. Also, if she doesn’t play nice, they will get her out of the Senate, too. Don’t doubt that. Where would we all be if she is out completely. She is working for us still or she would just quit! Hang in there. She is going to be the nominee! Last count was 1920 delegates and PUMAs are watching if the DNC blows it yet again and we will make them suffer for it!

      • basil

        Check this amazing story

        Premature baby pronounced dead comes back to
        life after 5 hours in a hospital freezer.

        http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1218710394816&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

  • Helen

    I too voted against Gov. Gregoire (and Rep Jim McDermott) in the Washington State primary. She squeaked by in the last election with the support of women voters, and then threw us under the bus for rock star Obama. If she was going for the Independent voters with her endorsement of him, she can rely on them in Nov. It’s painful for me to do, but we have to teach these women a lesson.

    • no waffles aka drkate

      yes, they stepped on all of our backs to get where they were–all the time self-loathing–and then threw us under the bus as soon as they could, to go with this idiot with a pencil and a cell phone in his pocket. It disgusts me!

    • Condie Rice

      Agreed – we women need to show who rules – blacks are voting black – i am amazed women do not do the same why not vote for a woman what r the issues with woman against other woman – is it just ego?

      • roseeriter

        I heard a lot of women say its because of their kids interest in Obama. Caroline Kennedy, Marie Shriver for example. Spoiling ones children should end at 18 IMHO.

        • OBSP

          In the words of the late great Bernie Mack!, It’s some Punk Ass Parents in America!!

        • tavyprof

          What did Caroline Kennedy ever do besides being JFK’s daughter?

      • elise

        I don’t think it’s ego, exactly. It’s all about cultural expectations and the emphasis on being defined by husband, marriage and children. Not that there is anything wrong with that life unless it creates limitations. If anything should be clear after this election, it is the reaction to capable and ambitious women. I don’t know why I keep thinking Shakespeare tonight, but from Mark Anthony’s speech to the senate in Rome speaking of Caesar, “The noble Brutus
        Hath told you Caesar was ambitious:
        If it were so, it was a grievous fault,
        And grievously hath Caesar answered it …”
        . For some reason ambition is admirable in men and despised in women. There is no doubt whatsoever, the media ambushed Hillary and anyone who says it’s not so, drank more than kool aid. She’s had a lot of experience with that, but I am sure the reaction (or lack of) by the DNC and even women’s groups confused her and delayed her campaign. Every time she took the gloves off, she was harassed.

  • HILLARY 2008 or 2012

    I think Hillary feels she has a duty to back the presumptive nominee even though she knows he stole the nomination.

    She knows he sent his thugs into the caucuses to steal delegates by using theft, threats, force, and every kind of fraud imaginable.

    She knows about the over 2000 complaints filed in TX alone, and with the phone lines jammed.

    She knows about his continual lying.

    She knows about his total lack of experience, knowledge, and no record of accomplishments.

    She knows about his poor judgement proven in his choice of friends – the Chicago crooks, the Iraqi criminals, the terrorist bombers of American sites, the racist anti-American preachers, the Hamas donors, the Black Panther & Farrakhan backers, etc.

    Maybe she is counting on his being disqualified because of his forged birth certificate, lies about his Indonesian Muslim background, lies about his real name – Barry Soetoro, and possible dual-citizenship.

    Problem is if the GOP proves all this AFTER Denver Hillary is out of the picture and we could have a lop like Mr. Hair Plugs (Biden), or vote for McCain.

    So, it’s up to the delegates to give us an honest and qualified nominee for president, Hillary Clinton, or blow it and give us Barry or Biden.

    Whether it’s McCain, Barry, or Biden, we will have a Real President, Hillary Clinton, in 2012.

    It sure would be nice if the delegates would do the right thing and skip the 4 years of misery.

    • no waffles aka drkate

      very well said, thank you.

      And, even if Soetoro is disqualified, the dems would have done such damage to themselves by not vetting him that it will be a route for Biden (or whoever). Also, Biden, for heavens sake, will be dogged by Soetoro charges as well as his own plagerizing.

      An electoral disaster for dems is in the making! Barry will drag all down ticket dems DOWN.

      • no waffles aka drkate

        rout for Biden!

    • Susan

      Don’t forget that both CNN and FOX are doing a “Candidates revealed show Wednesday night. My guess is FOX scheduled theirs and CNN had to follow for competition, but that CNN was ready to air it after the convention! That is my guess anyway becasue I do not see why they would risk it before the convention!

  • Vonay

    After watching McCain do a smack down on Obambi the ther night at the forum they had,
    I am that much more comfortable voting for McCain.

    Obama, uhhhhh Soetoro will NOT get my vote. He needs to quit lying about every damn thing in his past.

    Soetoror, how about showing a real birth certificat, and how about you quit lying about being a muslim.

    The AP document is out there for everyone to read.
    We can read you know?

  • The Real Hope

    Clown Obama has the nerve to criticize Baby Boomers and our “psychodrama” while he’s been playing the Global Adonis game on the European stage and here at home? This guy is a piece of political trash and has no personal bottom line. Watching him on the Faith Forum, or whatever the hell it was called was nerve-wracking. How embarrassing it was to watch this bottomless pit of vapidity blow smoke out his empty ass. I don’t even like McCain but I have to tell you, I’m leaning towards voting for him now after watching that shallow performance by that insipid clown.

    And to think that we could have had a woman of great great substance and one truly devoted to the welfare of the American People! SICKENING!

    • roseeriter

      There were many anti-boomer diaries at dkos. The brats blamed the boomers for everything that’s wrong in the world today. Guess lots of kids like Obama, with dysfunctional parents..so revenge seems to be a motive in some ways. Definitely no logic or common sense.

      • HillGirl

        Aren’t they their parents? LOL!

      • The Real Hope

        I guess it is a kid thing because we used to blame our parents, the Greatest Generation for everything too! I admit that Boomers have their troubles YES, but I think Clown Obama and his followers are nothing but thugs who want everything their way. They are ageists, sexists and anything else that classifies as “ists”! :)

  • doublestandard

    bravo, bravo, bravo. I am a lifelong Dem and will NEVER EVER EVER vote for this dangerous liar fraud Obama Soetoro. McCain is my man now. peoplel ask how I can vote GOP when it goes against all my past issues? My friends, it goes beyond party lines now. It is what is best for the country. Country before party. This is not a grudge or bitterness or sour grapes. This is doing what I can to prevent this dangerous fraud Obama trash from getting into the whitehouse. I will do whatever I can to protect my family and my country. Obama is a threat; I get chills when I hear his pompous voice; I honestly see the spirit of Hitler in his eyes. The MSM fears him, and he is using that fear to get whatever he wants.

    God help us if we don’t stop this evil.

  • catherine

    First time in 30 years I will vote for a republican nominee for president. Because I respect Hillary I will look carefully at the house and senate seat nominees who are democratic but I cannot and will not vote for Obama and his wife who hates America yet is sitting pretty in a million dollar plus home. She is disgusting (and he says he listens to her on most issues). How many mothers send their children to a church that preaches hate against whites and America? Tell me this is a first lady we want for America! Not the America I grew up loving. Even worse, Obama is an empty suit with few authentic principles of his own and little to no real integrity and/or backbone or experience that makes him prepared to run anything no less the country.

  • amirosa

    I gave all I had to Hillary…the little money I had saved with much sacrifice went to her campaign, I made phone calls, held signs (count our votes–Florida)and I implored her to go independent. I do not think we will ever know what exactly happened –my take is that she has been seriously threatened possibly ruining her political career if she did not support the party’s anointed candidate. I still hope that after the convention or after the election she will do what many of us, loyal democrats have done–kiss the party good bye. Meanwhile, I will do whatever I can to denounce this phony, arrogant and inept charlatan before the general election.

  • Ellen D.

    As a fan of logical thinking, I have been wrestling with this contradiction for a long time:

    Apparently the concern for Social Security is that there are not enough young people to support the giant bubble of boomers (of which I am one) who are going to hit all at once.

    HOWEVER the Democrats have decided to cater to the smaller younger group and tell the giant bubble of boomers to get lost.

    Am I missing something here?

    • Dee

      No.

      And the boomers have been supporting the WWII generation for many decades. The funds the “Greatest Generation” have received are not funds they have contributed to the pot. In my Dad’s case he has drawn SS for 25 years. My Mother – for 21 years. They both know this is money from their kids and their grandkids.

      Now that it is time for the Pre-Boomers and Boomers to start drawing from the fund they have been paying into for their entire teenage and adult life – their kids and grandkids who worship Obama want to de-fund it.

  • Mandelay

    So nice to hear you compare Hillary to Bobby Kennedy. I, too, was a big fan of Bobby Kennedy and his approach to politics. I also believe that Hillary Clinton has that unique ability to be a visionary with a practical approach to the challenges we face. Losing Hillary in this year is a major loss. There is no way I can support Barack Obama/Barry Soetoro or whoever he is. As a lifelong Democrat, I feel it is more important this year to teach the Democratic Party a bitter lesson, more important than electing a Democrat President. And if the Party felt it was so important to get a Democrat in the White House, Obama would be pressured to pick Clinton as his running mate. What the Party has made clear is that it’s more important to demolish the Clinton wing of the Party than it is to win the general election. My vote against Obama will extend all the way down the ticket to every candidate for any office who supported Obama.

  • Concerned Grandma

    Does anyone know how much debt that Hillary still owes? I just got an e-mail from Bill wanting me to donate by midnight tonight to help retire her debt and for a chance to come to the convention as their guest. I also will not vote for Obama or any of the dems on our ticket this year.

    • Mandelay

      Last I heard they paid off all money owed to colleges, but I haven’t heard what the latest “balance” is. Bill Richardson is supposed to be holding fundraisers to Hillary to retire her debt. Hillary has, meanwhile, raised many millions for Obama, but his supporters have not “gone to the hip” as Jerry Lewis used to say on his telethon. Hey, how about a telethon for Hillary’s debt with a parade of special guests blasting Obama the Empty Suit off the planet? That’s killing two birds with one stone!

      • CheapEmptySuit

        What happened to the July 4th money bomb to retire Hillary debt? How much was raised? we never did find out so the donations stopped.
        Anyone one the true number thatw as paid off. They act like they didn’t get anything.

    • CountryFirst

      Instead of Hillary out raising money for Obama, she should have put that money toward her own debt. No more of my pitiful little SS retirement check will go to a Democrat. If I have any to spare, it will go to Rain for McCain.

  • HillGirl

    Hillary is saying that if you don’t vote Obama then at least vote the down ticket Democrat. Try and go for an override majority.

    • Mr. X

      That’s a signal to not vote for downtickets if I ever heard one. Imagine if Obama is responsible for downtickets losing elections? That would be devastating.

  • cackicoo

    53 and 54 say nobama never more
    hillary yes…macain maybe but nobama ever

  • nobonomo

    I am not struggling with my decision in the least bit and no amount of respect from Obama for either Hillary or her supporters would make me view him as qualified for the job.

  • Andy

    Dear Mr. Arnone:

    Thank you very very much for telling us about the meeting and more importantly for your thoughtful, heartfelt and valuable post.
    I know I will be re-reading it many times.

    I would also like to thank you, deeply, for all your work as volunteer advisor in HRC campaign, because ultimately you were working for all of us.

  • http://! Buzz Latte

    Agreed. The Dems have far more to lose than gain by crowning Obama.

    I will be in the mood to vote straight ticket GOP – except for one country commissioner in my area…

    The DNC has played us for fools but we’ll see who holds the last ace.

  • IndianaDem

    *shrug*

    I’ll vote for Obama because I believe I have a clear understanding of what the alternative likely means.

    I’m 58, if it’s relevant. The last republican president I voted for was Ronald Reagan. I was younger then, and went for his pitch for fiscal responsibility, personal responsibility, and traditional American values hook line and sinker.

    Watching what he then proceeded to do was one of my great political life-lessons. I’ve witnessed the same successful pitch followed by the same entirely different behavior with every republican administration since.

    They’ve reduced the entire process to the formula that John McCain is presently following: A common-sense appeal to the traditional values we all hold dear; a warning about the many serious external threats that confront us; and a no-holds barred campaign to discredit the character and reputation of the opposition, while holding themselves up as models of virtue.

    Sorry to be contrary. I’d vote for Clinton if I could, but evidently I don’t have that option.

    • Zeke

      And your 58 yrs of wisdom have shown you that by voting for a Marxist racist who has hijacked your party, flipped off your hero and TOLD you just how he plans to F**k you, that you will have somehow improved the world?
      Sorry doesn’t cut it… do you live in a box?
      What kind of priorities do you have?
      If Obama wins, you will have no more rights…
      Jeeze

      • IndianaDem

        I believe you’re so angry because of your dislike for Barack Obama that you’re not analyzing the entire situation effectively. In particular, you aren’t looking very closely at John McCain.

        A continuation of current republican fiscal policy will totally ruin us. Since Bush took office, the deficit went through the roof, the debt doubled, and the value of the dollar in your pocket dropped 41%. McCain is changing nothing.

        We’ve got two wars already. Iraq alone is costing us over a billion dollars a month. Our military is stressed to the breaking point. And McCain is provoking the Russians rather than attempting to reason with them. I suggest that will result in enormous increases in defense spending–if nothing worse.

        It’s this last republican administration that’s disregarded the constitution and the law, and shown complete disrespect for my rights.

        I’ve got all sorts of priorities I’m thinking about. And my thinking certainly isn’t confined to a box.

        I don’t find all the anger useful. It’s devisive, at a time when America needs to pull together. In my opinion.

        • CheapEmptySuit

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdbYjmbFzo

          from nohussein.org

          Obama like to kill babies. That’s what you are voting for. Oh and the prison camps to cart you away on raillines.

          Obama’s extensive connections to corrupt Chicago politics—while he claims to be a reformer

          Obama’s plans to increase taxes—amid rising fuel and food prices, he just voted to raise taxes for anyone making more than $32,000
          Obama’s dangerous mix of inexperience and poor judgment—evident in his shifting policy positions and the Rev. Wright scandal
          Obama’s radical voting record—he repeatedly voted against legislation to protect babies born alive during failed abortions.

          Why anybody would trust Barack Hussein Obama after he has a documented history of serial pathological lying is beyond me. Wake up and learn the truth.

          • IndianaDem

            All I have to do is believe all the lies, and then I can share your opinion.

            Let’s take just one: That republican tale about taxes. It sounds pretty bad for Barack. The only problem is, it’s not true. The truth is the exact opposite. There’s proof, compiled by two highly-respected, non-partisan, non-profit, public policy analysis organizations, if anyone wants to look:

            http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/06/09/ST2008060900950.html

            No one can make you look, of course. But the reality will eventually show up in your wallet, and in the federal deficit.

            That’s the sort of stuff I believe in. I don’t believe in unfounded rumors or character-assassination campaigns.

        • beverly leslie

          Please stop using the divisive talk and the unity pony talk. We are coming together and it is for the sole purpose of defeating BO. I am glad you made your decision to follow party lines and dismiss any abhorrent behavior on the part of the Dnc. If you can look the other way with a clear conscience, congrats to you.

          I, on the other hand feel quite differently and with solid reason. If barky gets into office it will set a horrible precedent for our country and future elections. We will fight now, with all we have, and if that includes anger so be it.

          You can lecture all you want about Senator Mccain but whatever you say, you cannot accuse him of being unpatriotic or of not having the best interest of america at heart. I know where I stand with him and am comfortable and guilt free in my choice to vote republican.

          As more of Barky’s alter ego and past of soetoro come out and you realize what a horrible horrible choice he is or would have been for america, you will have to look in the mirror and know you blindly followed in supporting someone who would take this country on a horrible ride.

          I would suggest you study your conscience before you question anyone else’s.

        • http://! Buzz Latte

          You’re entitled to your opinion, but please find out how much your taxes will go up under Obama if you make 40,000.00 plus per year.

          Then, if you like having your wallet raped to fund Obama’s marxist agenda then by all means vote for him.

          Just know there will be many more votes for McCain to cancel yours out.

          • IndianaDem

            Evidently you didn’t bother to look at the McCain/Obama tax comparison chart, linked up above. Taxes are lower under the Obama plan for individual income up to $111,645. For people earning $40,000 a year, the Obama tax cuts are three times higher than under John McCain’s proposal.

            McCain would give the very rich tax cuts even higher than they got under the Bush scheme. People earning above $2.87 million per year would get tax cuts averaging $269,364 per year.

            If the McCain plan strikes you as fair and equitable at a time when federal deficits are already threatening to ruin the country, we have entirely different definitons of the words.

            Obama’s plan is far more fiscally responsible. Because Obama eliminates the unfair Bush tax cuts on the highest end of the scale, his plan isn’t the budget-buster the McCain plan is.

        • Zeke

          Go read a civics book sometime. Presidents take credit when Congress isn’t screwing up and the economy is working and presidents get blamed when Congress screws up and blows money out its ass and the economy sucks.
          Just because the public is ignorant of who is screwing them doesn’t mean its not true. Presidents don’t write the legislation that builds bridges to nowhere and spends a fortune finding out why prisoners don’t like it in jail.
          Congress does.
          And pulling together means jack shit if its under a Marxist yolk. And not being angry about being robbed, cheated and stolen from is simply stupid.

          • IndianaDem

            Tax equity and economic equity aren’t the equivalent of Marxism.

            As near as I can tell, it’s republican economic policies and tax policies that have resulted in more wealth being concentrated in fewer hands than at any other time in modern history. Forget trickle-down theory. The whole damn system has been rigged so the wealth flows upward and concentrates at the top.

    • CountryFirst

      Indiana Dem if you are on this site, then perhaps you are here to research the character of your party’s choice for President. Most of the opinions you will find on this blog, come after a great deal of research online about Barack Obama. It’s not the republicans that are discrediting the character and reputation of Obama, it is his own life and history, which you won’t discover listening to msm. No republican that I know ever gave me any information about Obama. Actually, I’m the one that is sending them links to newspaper articles, titles of books to read, online links to information I’ve found. If after you’ve done all that research, perhaps you will feel the same. That’s fine, but I hope you will make it an educated choice. It took me several weeks of “researching” which began before the primary was over. It started when I heard one of the Canada/NAFTA stance, then his staffer’s private conversation with an Iraqi official saying is stance on the war was political rhetoric. Then next was Rev. Wrights “god damn America” stance..and on and on. Stating a truth is not “smearing.” But, IndianaDem, you own your own vote, as I do, unless the SuperDelegate who is supposed to have your back sells his vote to the highest bidder.

      • CountryFirst

        sorry about the typos

  • Alice

    I agree with everyone. I am 59 years old, a lifelong Democrat, but I will NEVER vote for Obama/Soetoro. And I am appalled at the DNC and other Democrats(including my Senator and representative) who support him — even though Hillary won our district by over 30 points!! It is sickening. I will vote for McCain. I thought he did a great job on the “forum” Saturday night. Obama/Soetoro looked like the inexperienced fool that he is!

  • Objective analysis

    Welcome to President McCain.

  • HILLARY for VP

    Our only hope is that BO will see he can’t win without Hillary and asks her to be VP.

    Then when he is disqualified she will be president, just as the People’s Vote made clear.

    If he is too stupid to see that she is the only real choice for VP, then to hell with him. He deserves to lose.

    The more I see of McCain the more I like him. The more I see of BO the more I dislike him. He is a fraud.

    McCain will be controlled by a Democratic Congress, unless BO blows that too.

    • Sharon

      You are right on the mark!!!

  • harvey

    Everyone knows the old addage or saying “you can’t teach an old dog new tricks”. I believe that to be a true accessment of the way the older Americans may feel toward Obama. I was born 0ne year after the establishment of the WPA and I can honestly say Obama will never trick me into voting for him. Obviously I and others of my age have seen a number of good and bad presidents come and go. As far as I am concerned Obama would–WOULD– if elected to be president fall under the status of the latter “bad” presidents. My wife and I have been pulling and voting for the Clintons from their beginning. So just in case Bill or Hillary Clinton read NO QUARTER all I can say is PLEASE Mr President and Senator Clinton(s) Do not ask me to vote for Obama because then I would find it necessary to vote against your wishes for the FIRST TIME, and that, I promise, I and my wife WILL DO.

  • Dean

    I will no way ever vote for Obama even if Hillary is on the ticket. I will vote for McCain and send money to the Republican party if Obama is the nominee.

  • hilldemgoneindie

    51. voting straight repub 1st time EVER. i will NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER vote for the zero. ever. i love hillary with all my heart, but i own my own vote.

    country before party!!

    hillary ’08
    puma

    • IndianaDem

      McCain. OK, I find that difficult to understand right on the heels of George W. Bush, but maybe you just can’t abide Obama.

      But a straight republican ticket?

      You love Hillary with all your heart, but you’re abandoning every policy and value she stands for in favor of a contintuation of the republican agenda?

      Call me puzzled.

      • kcfromtx

        Obimbo abandons every policy and value he supposedly stood for. How would he be any different than any republican? Well, the republican nominee can be trusted, obimbo cannot.

        • IndianaDem

          You trust the republican nominee?

          The republicans have done so much to earn our trust.

          You do realize that the invasion of Iraq was based upon deliberate lies and total fabrications? False testimonies, suppressed evidence, and even forged documents? You understand that this is no longer speculation, right?

          George W. Bush could possible be brought up on charges of high treason. There’s no doubt at all about high crimes and misdemeanors.

          Kind of odd, to think Bill Clinton was empeached based on a lie revolving around a ridiculous young woman who bragged about a foolish and somewhat pathetic sexual indescretion. They tried to totally destroy one of the best presidents we’ve had in recent history over midlife crisis and an unfortunately all-too-common moment of male weakness.

          Yet Bush lies, over 4,000 young Americans die, and he goes on his merry way.

          Sorry. The republicans have lost my trust. They’ll have to earn it back.

          • IndianaDem

            *sigh* Sorry about that. I guess I have some anger of my own.

          • Dee

            Sorry to say this – but if you are 58 now and voted for Reagan you have previously shown very poor judgment and at an age when you should have known better.

            You are being rolled again. If you are lucky, you will still be alive in another 28 years when you can look back on your Obama vote and get on the internet and talk about how that mistake lead to the destruction of the Democratic Party.

            • IndianaDem

              Perhaps you don’t recall how Americans were feeling toward the end of the Carter administration. The prime rate hit 21.5%. We had recession, double-digit inflation, and the hostage situation in Iran. We didn’t just have high gasoline prices, we had shortages. People sometimes parked in lines for hours to fill up their tanks. If my judgement was poor when I went for Reagan’s pitch, it wasn’t any different than that of the the majority of American voters.

              Hey, I thought you democratic McCain supporters were supposed to be the latter-day version of Reagan Democrats? If I had poor judgement then, at least I’ve gotten over it.

      • CheapEmptySuit

        My Dear Fellow Americans: We are about to be herded like cattle into obscurity. If your family/friends/co-workers don’t believe, ask them to watch a fairly short video by Naomi Wolf (youtube or google her name). She’s soft spoken and well educated, non-emotional and attractive. Therefore, she’s non-threatening and easy to watch/listen to. She ends her talk with encouraging possibilities that we must indeed rise up en mass. That’s only possible if our numbers grow. Tell someone today. Don’t count on the media to enlighten. The media is tightly tethered by the elites through fears of too many realistic and proven possibilities of discreditation, disappearance, or even death (see Chandra Levy). It’s over-time good people, that we stop this evil before we are no more. God Help America!
        http://www.issuesandalibis.org/camps.html

  • Laura

    Family of three straight republican ticket after thirty plus years voting democratic.Don’t know what Hillary’s motivations are, don’t care.They are all conducting themselves like gutless wonders who run the show here. Not fit to lead anything Obama.

  • rw

    I will vote, and continue to vote, Republican, straight down until Kerry, Brazile, Dean, Reid, Pelosi are no longer synonymous with DNC.

    Of other family: 12 now voting McCain (seven were for Hillary), one voting Nader(former Obama voter), one undecided (former Obama voter), two for now still going with Obama….this in “liberal, urban” east coast.

  • DAB

    Unlike Hillary, McCain, Edwards and most candidates, Obama really doesn’t have a signature issue. Although a President obviously has to cover a wide range of subjects, I feel that a dominating emphasis helps display their commitment and passion which in turn offers us some glimpse into their souls.

    If Obama possesses anything like a signature issue it would have to be the aggrandizement of Barack Obama. For me that just isn’t enough. McCain seems to be the more sincere and authentic candidate and I have actually come to like him, so he gets my vote.

  • Colleen

    I’m another boomer,61 yrs young, and I will vote republican for the first time in my life this November. It’s saddens me some but as others have said here–country before party.

  • hank48188

    I live in Michiganistan and I am voting straight Republican. Not ONE DEM in Michigan spoke out about Obama getting 45% of the Delegates despite not being on the ballot. They don’t know what democracy means and they all deserve to be removed from power.

  • Silver

    I have an eighty-four-year-old uncle, a life long Democrat, who greatly dislikes both Obama and John McCain. He says: “Figuring out who to vote for this election year is like trying to decide between a hard turd or a runny stool—either way you’re gonna get shit.”

    That analogy pretty much sums up my feelings as well. There’s no way I’m voting for Obama. And when I read that John McCain is against all the Supreme Court Justices I admire, and is happy with all the ones I despise, I pretty much feel the same as my uncle. For the first time in 30 years, I may actually sit out an election.

    • Zeke

      Then you will be among the few who get the government you deserve.

    • The Real Hope

      I LOVE IT! LOL

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    Psychodrama of the baby boom generation, eh, Barack?

    We’ll show you some psychodrama, buddy! Don’t worry about that at all. Make no mistake! And when you go home licking your wounds, having lost to John McCain after stealing the nomination from the best candidate, you can call it the “Angst of an asshole” if you’d like–because we won’t particularly care one way or another.

    Nope…not getting over it! As George’s dad says, “Wouldn’t be prudent!”

    • CheapEmptySuit

      How’s this for psychodrama fraudbama-you suck!

  • bayareavoter

    It won’t matter here in CA but my husband and I are voting McCranky after 30+ yrs as liberal Dems.

    A year before the primaries I told a friend I hoped Hillary wouldn’t run–people were sick of the Clintons, they’d never elect a woman, etc. THEN I GREW TO LOVE AND RESPECT HER. I made thousands of calls for her and donated more $$ than I could afford. The more times she spoke the more impressed I became and the more disgusted with the Dem party. I would like to know WHY the Dems like Leahy, Kennedy et al tried to push Hillary out of the race back in February–maybe someday we’ll know.

    And don’t let anyone throw the Supreme Court in your face–if the Dems had done their jobs we wouldn’t have Alito and Roberts on the court!

    I say vote McCain but give the Dems a solid majority in the Senate. I only wish I could vote against Nancy Pelosi and John Kerry.

    • beverly leslie

      Don’t say it won’t matter to vote Mccain in Ca. If enough of us do, it will matter. I am in L.a. and will be voting for Mccain as is many other’s I know. I will also be voting against all dems who did not support Hillary. Let’s go to the polls and know each vote will make a difference.

  • Jennifer

    Hi everyone. I know people are upset that Hillary was dong things for Obama. It doesn’t make me happy. However, Hillary has gotten incredible threats. She can’t voice publicly what she thinks. However, I believe she is privately trying to bring him down. Last week I was listening to Sean Hannity’s radio show and right after Howard Wolfson spoke, a girl with Clintons4McCain called and she said she had a 17 page FBI report on Obama that she wanted to send him. The only people who have the ability to get that report is Bill and Hillary Clinton. Please folks let’s not turn our backs on her. She’s still fighting for us. We need to still fight for her.

    Jen

    • Andy

      Jen:

      Do you know of specific threats (for a fact?).

      That would be serious. I know they are surely threatening her Senate seat …

  • Peniel

    RE your last statement: “I believe that the burden remains on Senator Obama, his campaign team, and the leadership of the Democratic Party to show genuine respect for Senator Clinton’s candidacy — its content, character and constituencies — and provide real opportunities for her supporters to play meaningful roles in the fall campaign.”

    This will not happen. Obama is focusing on a new coalition. Very clearly it doesn’t include us Boomers. Doesn’t include older voters. Doesn’t include less educated voters either. Doesn’t include older women ie, the vanguard of the feminist revolution of the 70s (after all, we’re just bitter old women). Doesn’t include average, working class white people because there’s too much baggage with them (all those religious types and gun owners). Doesn’t include pro-choicers who would want to keep a live-birth baby … well, alive!

    No Sir/Ms. doesn’t include any of us old line Democrats. Because we’re SO yesterday. Just like the Clintons were. We’re a bridge to the past … not the future.

    Bill you said that Independents would be the crucial votes in this election. Well let me hardily disagree.

    Mark my word: it will be the discarded wing of the Democratic party … us “Dead-ender Democrats” … who will be the ultimate deciders of the outcome.

    Politics 101: You can NOT throw away a large percentage of your own base and win.

    Obama is just too arrogant to really get that!
    – peniel cronin

    • Andy

      Are you “the” Peniel Cronin? Wow ….

      I admire and thank you profoundly for all your work
      on caucuses vs primaries. Extraordinary indeed.

    • Andy

      By the way, have you seen Pelosi’s comment about Obama on Sunday’s fundraiser? She essentially said Obama is G’gift to us…. Scary words…

      Obama: ‘I will win’

      A confident Barack Obama raised an extraordinary $7.8 million Sunday at three California fundraisers, most if it in large checks to a Democratic Party committee.

      “I will win. Don’t worry about that,” he said to the crowd of about 1,300 at his third event of the evening, according to the pool report.

      He was warmly received by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who called him “a leader that God has blessed us with at this time.”

      Emphasis mine; full article in
      http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0808/Obama_I_will_win.html

      The dems are drooling over the money

      • Andy

        Clarification:

        “By dems are…” I meant the DNC.

      • Andy

        Clarification:

        By

        “The dems are…”

        I meant the DNC.

    • snosandy

      Obviously Obama’s new coalition doesn’t include those who use their common sense either.

    • Dee

      You forgot the LGBT community – a group that represents about 10% of the population and vote 8-2 for Dems. They don’t need us either.

      More than our votes – they will miss our money.

  • http://investigatebarackobama.wordpress.com/about/ kat in your hat

    What is this author saying??

    “If Hillary Clinton had looked me in the eye and said, “Bill, do for Barack Obama exactly what you were doing and would have done for me…”

    Hillary has said that, she has said it everywhere, most notably on her suspension/ endorse speech.

    You may not realize it, but that statement alone pushes the obsessive Obama-Media and DNC to blame Hillary for more of the same.

    Hillary has done everything and way MORE than anyone to “unite” the party, and I don’t think it’s HER job, it is the “uniter’s” job, so we totally agree there.

    And of course, no doubt, this is difficult to get over because we know that Hillary would have won it for the democrats and Obama will definitely lose it for the democrats if he gets official dem nomination at convention.

    THAT’S what really pisses me off. The DNC is so out of touch with basic Americans that they actually think Obama can win, in war time, as a crazy left liberal with all his wackjob “associates.” They are divorced from reality.

    Sometimes I wonder if certain people in the media (and yes, even some dems) pushed Obama so hard because they WANT McCain to win. The whole thing is just so frustrating, to sit for almost a decade with Bush, just to have another republican in office. It SUCKS.

    It truly sucks that Obama is unelectable. IT SUCKS.

    • IndianaDem

      I don’t necessarily believe that he is unelectable. The majority of polls and all of the new battleground states that have traditionally been republican strongly suggest he might be.

      • beverly leslie

        Are you high? He is absolutely unelectable. The only way he is winning the south is by registering dead people to vote. Yes, there have been many complaints about voter fraud in the South. Don’t worry though barky is going to lose big time. He is hoping this election is close so he can steal it with voter fraud, but the landslide loss he will incur will render his voter fraud plan nil.

        This is why every vote counts, and we all must vote against barky, no staying home.

        • IndianaDem

          Nope. I was just looking at today’s national polls. Obama is now ahead in the top 5. He’s ahead in most of the others as well.

          http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/

          Apparently they’re also polling dead people.

          • Dee

            You definition of top five must be different than mine.

  • Lucinda

    I also went back to his book, “The Audacity of Hope,” in which he belittles “the psychodrama of the Baby Boom generation.”

    Excuse me? Obama is 47. Does that not make him a Baby Boomer? I thought anyone born between 1946-1964 were Boomers, so he’s belittling himself in that quote. Well, he’s tried to reinvent his whole life. Why not his age bracket, too. Next, we’ll see a BC showing him born in 1966.
    I think we still have plenty of hope for a Boomer president. I’m not sure about a woman president, though. After what Hillary went through, it might be a long time before another woman takes up the challenge.

    • roseeriter

      Well he was SELECTED to grow the Dem party by pandering to the children and AAs. That reason alone is enough not to vote for him. I don’t like anyone who exploits others.

    • http://! Buzz Latte

      That’s just typical of the airheaded and lazy intellectual style if Obama. He couldn’t be bothered to find out the real breadth of the Baby Boomer Generation and then he gaffes by belittling himself!!! The man is an abosolute MORON.

      Can you imagine what all the other world leaders must think about Bambi OPampers??? They are snickering in their champagne to think that mightly America may end up with a banana republic emperor for POTUS.

    • http://! Buzz Latte

      That’s just typical of the airheaded and lazy intellectual style if Obama. He couldn’t be bothered to find out the real breadth of the Baby Boomer Generation and then he gaffes by belittling himself!!! The man is an absolute MORON.

      Can you imagine what all the other world leaders must think about Bambi OPampers??? They are snickering in their champagne to think that mightly America may end up with a banana republic emperor for POTUS.

    • http://! Buzz Latte

      That’s just typical of the airheaded and lazy intellectual style of Obama. He couldn’t be bothered to find out the real breadth of the Baby Boomer Generation and then he gaffes by belittling himself!!! The man is an absolute MORON.

      Can you imagine what all the other world leaders must think about Bambi OPampers??? They are snickering in their champagne to think that mightly America may end up with a banana republic emperor for POTUS.

  • OBushMA!

    I know McCain will continue the status quo for the most part. Even though the country does need a change of course, unfortunately, BO can only offer changes that I can’t believe in. The choice between the two is clear.

  • Tom

    So, what did I expect last evening? If Hillary Clinton had looked me in the eye and said, “Bill, do for Barack Obama exactly what you were doing and would have done for me,” then I would devote all of my energy to helping him and would encourage others to do the same.

    She has, but you haven’t. What do you want, an engraved invitation?

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/09/AR2008080900347.html

    Honestly, you people are like the Ellen James Society (look it up).

    • Observer

      Another Obamabot drunk on the kool-aid.

      • Tom

        That’s it? That’s all you’ve got?

        I post a link to story in the Washington Post where Hillary calls upon all her supporters to actively support Obama and I’M the one drinking the kool-aid?

      • roseeriter

        Yeah Tom’s like a member of the dead Jim Jones Temple group of koolaid drinkers- Blinded by hypocrisy and lies.

  • rainbow

    Hillary Clinton is being a phony supporting Oreo and it is going to hurt her chances in 2012 by her actions now……I supported her all the way until that unity thing…..bullshit, both of the Clintons know oliar is wrong for the country and support him ? That is outrageous, it shows them both to be dirty politicians, which hurts me deeply. And we will be voting for McCain and will never go back to the democratic party.

    • IndianaDem

      If you can talk that way about Bill and Hillary Clinton, I very much doubt you were in the democratic party to begin with.

      • CheapEmptySuit

        keep doubting–who cares what you think obot.

        In face of our own Constitutional demise, a war with no end and economic collapse, all of US should be paying attention to such descriptions. AMERICA NEEDS TO WAKE UP NOW!
        http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3386810561868116434
        This video, touring the old AMTRAK yard in Beech Grove, IN, is illustrative: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3386810561868116434 Maybe there is an explanation for this other than the clear inferences drawable from the retrofitting of the Beech Grove yard, but I haven’t seen it. Immigration status in doubt? Here is an operating ICE facility, called a “public-private partnership”, once a correctional facility, with playgrounds added for fun for the entire family of an undocumented suspect: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3386810561868116434 Let’s get beyond figuring out who is behind these monstrosities, and make sure they, and the laws authorizing them, are repealed.
        DO NOT WANT. STOP FRAUDBAMA BEFORE DENVER!

        • IndianaDem

          You obviously don’t care. That works OK for me.

          I’m not so negative about Barack Obama. I can vote for him, when the alternative is John McCain. I also very much like Bill and Hillary.

          If you’re worried about the real fascist agenda in action, read up on the Project for a New American Century. Lay in a supply of pencils. There are plenty of fully documented dots to connect. Nearly all of them are republican.

          • Dee

            Are you familiar with the neo-liberal agenda? At the end of the day they are both about the same thing – control by the oligarchy.

      • roseeriter

        Operation chaos assholes are still at work. Obama forgot to fire them.

  • baba yaga

    Sorry, if it comes down to McCain or Obama, I’m voting for Obama. I can’t vote for a Republican — not after what they’ve done to the country over the last 8 years.

    America does need a viable third political party, desperately — a centrist, moderate party.

  • Katherine B.

    I cast my first ever vote for a Republican on my mail in ballot here in WA state. Shortly after I mailed it, I got an e-mail from the WA State Democrats who are very upset because there is low voter turnout expected and lower than usual mail in ballots coming in. I guess the Obamabots, who are only Democrats for a Day, aren’t as enamored of other Ds running for office. What a shame! So I e-mailed back and told them that I voted against Gov. Gregoire because she was a turncoat, who was happy enough to have Hillary Clinton out here raising money for Gregoire’s first run for governor, but then turned her back on Hillary.

    They e-mailed me back a two word message: “right winger.” They’re not too good at this party unity thing, I’m thinking.

  • http://NeedtoKnow need to know

    Denham-Soetero-Obama-What’s his name, is not getting our vote. But him and his checkered past will go down as a footnote in the history books as “what not to do when you run for President.”

  • tavyprof

    Thank you Will for articulating my “baby boomer” disappointment. 40 years ago we knew most democrats were not to be trusted (“Love me, love me, love me..I’m a liberal” as the great Phil Ochs put it) . I know we generated some positive social change — my daughters can wear pants if they want to! — but you are right that the great promise that we breathed seems to have dissipated. Hillary was and is our best representative. Changing this corporatist world seems even less likely now…

  • kcfromtx

    Botox calls obimbo someone God has sent to lead us?? She is batshit crazy. At least her book bombed.

    • Liberty Belle_never4Obama

      Didn’t she have a 4% approval rating in the latest poll on her performance as Speaker? (down from 9% last time). Her book didn’t do so well, either.

  • cathnealon

    Just watched a 2003 documentary on the weather underground made by Sam Green. Ayers and Dohrn are interviewed throughout the film and it’s actually rather frightening that BO is associated with these people in any way. They have a strong affiliation with black liberation theology and if they were any farther to the left they’d be in Cuba.
    The one attitude so prevalent in their comments is one of moral superiority, they come from families of great wealth and act as if everyone not to the left are just masses of lemmings. The other thing that surfaced in this film is their anti-Americanism and it’s paradoxical because these 2 people after bombing buildings in the early 70′s in any other country would have been shot or sent to a gulag. But the same country that they denounce, the U.S., allows them to be professors at the University of Chicago after committing criminal acts. There are some undergraduate students who can’t get financial aid because they have committed a felony but these 2 actually teach after serving no time for the bombings. And these are the people that Mechelle, her husband, Wright and the others ally themselves with. No, we who have voted Democra our whole lives and brought up our children to work hard and contribute and not bomb buildings will not vote for the “God-damn America’ radicals of Chicago and couples like the Obamas and people like Wright who live in million dollar mansions and hate America will NEVER get our vote. Hillary can do what she wants, I do not follow a person I follow principles.

    • http://investigatebarackobama.wordpress.com/about/ kat in your hat

      Great points.

  • steel magnolia

    I can’t tolerate Hillary endorsing this unqualified egotist either, knowing what she and Bill know about him and his campaign’s tactics (probably things we’ll NEVER know).

    This 55 and 65 year old couple will be voting Republican for the first time ever, as will my 35 year old son, 24 year old daughter in law, 40 year old son and 36 year old daughter in law. Even my 78 year old Mother, who has never voted Republican in her life says it’s not her party anymore.

    My vote is my own – country before party!

  • hillarysmygirl

    I have never in my life worked as hard for a candidate as I did for Hillary. Sorry, Hill, I just can’t vote for Soetoro, I just can’t. And it’s not because I’m upset that the nominee is probably not going to be you. First of all, I think he is less qualified and more dishonest than Kerry or Gore, for whom I voted in the past elections. But I’m also not going to take the candidate that the DNC shoved down my throat. They think I have no where else to go? They need to think again.

  • john v

    It’s much different where i live. I’m a republican who joined republicans for obama months ago. It’s hard to find any colleagues who are republican that will vote for Mccain. It’s obama republican country here!

    • CheapEmptySuit

      Stupid is as stupid does. Why anybody would trust Barack Hussein Obama after he has a documented history of serial pathological lying is beyond me. Wake up and learn the truth.

      • Nicole

        I doubt Johnv was ever a Republican, it’s all part of the propaganda campaign by the Obamaboils.

    • beverly leslie

      yeah john v. I really believe that bullcrap you’re pushing. Try it somewhere else cause it ain’t passing the bullshit monitor.

  • Nomoredem

    Look Dean and the Democrats never learn. They have a bad track record. They couldn’t even beat George Bush twich. As for Hillary, she is looking long ter. The Big Dawg has told her that she will have a wide open opportunity in four years. This will be the first election since 1972 that I will not cast a vote for the Democrat for President. This whole thing was rigged for Obama from the beginning. Folks, change your party registration to indy. You can still vote anyway you want, and when the primaries come around in two years if there are candiddates you want to vote for change it back. The only way we are going to get this stuff straightened out is for people who say they won’t for Obama to do just that. Vote for someone else, he isn’t “The One” we have been waiting for.

    • Tom

      Ummm, you may want to check your facts there. Dean didn’t over the DNC (from Clinton acolyte Terry McAuliffe) until 2005. The Dems took back the House and gained a few seats in the ’06 election thanks to Dean’s 50 State Strategy (which the Clinton-led DLC fought against tooth and nail).

      Rigged against Hillary? Only if you believe that a 20-point lead in the polls six months prior to Iowa, a $100 million campaign chest, and name recognition that any candidate would die for as a handicap. The only way it was rigged is if Mark Penn was being paid under the table by Obama.

      What planet do you people live on?

      • Mr. X

        I supposed Michigan, South Carolina and Florida never happened? What planet do YOU live on?

  • Gregory

    Ok, we’re singing to the choir. But now it’s my turn. I’m pushing 40, have a graduate degree, have worked abroad in 4 different countries, speak 4 languages, consider myself a liberal, make a good living and I don’t plan on voting Obama. Even better, my dearest friend, whom I’ve known over 25 years, a successful lawyer on the left who has the same resume as I do (but makes EVEN more money and has been identified with even further left policies) won’t be voting Obama either. We were both Hillary boys and don’t plan on changing! I just might not vote. He’s voting McCain, not for McCain but against Obama. But in our circles we have to “be in the closet” about this (which leads me to believe that this phenomenon is more widely spread than one might originally think). I guess we’re just racist LOL

  • Soldier of Christ

    I agree- even if Mrs. Clinton came to my door- I will smile and shake her hand and say “sorry No deal!” Even my niece in Orlando is a koolaid drinker and is voting blindly- doesn’t even pick up the paper or look in the computer to read on this mystery man. She faints when he comes on tv. It is amazing the ignorance -especially the youth. Hillary has broken our hearts- I guess she thought that her 18 millions would convert because of party lines and not because of reason and wisdom. 2012 is too late, Hillary- you had your chance and you didn’t take it.

  • Soldier of Christ

    Comment by john v | 2008-08-18 15:19:14

    It’s much different where i live. I’m a republican who joined republicans for obama months ago. It’s hard to find any colleagues who are republican that will vote for Mccain. It’s obama republican
    ______________________________________________
    No decent republican changes values and morals over night- the people you are referring to are really not republicans- you are just a spy for the minions of Obama, child. To be conversative is very religious way of thinking- no republican will change their values for such a liberal. Try again- you are not fooling anyone, child.

    • roseeriter

      Are you one of Rush’s Operation chaos trouble makers? Cause The Obama bots are just as vicious as Bush’s extreme right wingers. The left and right wingers are both whiny immature thugs.

    • Ferdberfle

      To be conversative is very religious way of thinking

      No true at all. Real conservatives (not neocons, which are neither new nor conservative) such as Barry Goldwater did not wear their religious beliefs on their shirtsleeve. As a matter of fact, Barry once said that all good Christians should kick Falwell in the backside. Now that’s a real conservative.

  • Soldier of Christ

    Comment by baba yaga | 2008-08-18 14:24:30

    Sorry, if it comes down to McCain or Obama, I’m voting for Obama. I can’t vote for a Republican — not after what they’ve done to the country over the last 8 years.

    America does need a viable third political party, desperately — a centrist, moderate
    ____________________________________________
    We don’t need a maxist and radical terriost ties person neither! Or even more we don’t need another Yeshua. Yeshua died on the cross already and hasn’t come down for the second coming- Obama is not the second coming- – but maybe he is another False Prophet that has been predicted from the old docrine of the Judeo-Christian religion!

    • baba yaga

      Just wow.

  • christine moore

    If Hillary and bill knocked on my door and ask me to vote for Obama I would say “HELL NO”

  • beachnan

    This 53 and 57 year old couple will be voting Republican for the first time if Hillary is not the nominee. My daughters 25, and 28, my son-in law, 26, and my step-son and his wife, will also be voting McCain. My 76 year old Mother will be voting Republican for the first time. She loves Hillary, and so do I. Also, 8 members of my husband’s family will be voting McCain-no way Obama. I love it when people say that the PUMA movement is only 200 people. They have no idea how many of us are out here. They will find out in November-McCain landslide. PUMA!!!!

  • Dean

    Also here in North Dakota you hear more and more say they are voting for McCain this year! And we are all
    Democrats. It is just amazing. You would’ve told me a year ago that we would be sending the Republican party money and not a dime to the DNC I would’ve told you that you were nuts. But never ever Obama!!!

  • http://www.saddlebackfamily.com/orphancare/index.html Faith-NoBama

    I cannot support Obama, even if Hillary asked me to.

    Obama has proven himself to be unfit for POTUS. Now is not the time for the wishy-washy, non-specific, hopey changey fluff that Obama is dishing. He doesn’t have the qualifications of Clarence Thomas and yet he caught himself from saying that he was not qualified to be a justice on the Supreme Court.

    The only track record I know about Obama is that he’s a liar who cannot debate a fellow countryman, let along hold his own (OUR OWN) against a terrorist. His 3 a.m. moment was not just weak, it was terrifyingly naive. His constant calls of cheating, or accusations based upon race or tough questions from reporters have not only convinced me he is unfit, he scares the daylights out of me. Now, the Republican party didn’t do that–OBAMA did that!

    If Hillary were to be Obama’s running mate, he will lock her in a closet for 4 years and she wouldn’t have a say in anything he did in the Oval office.

    I’m begging all of you. DO NOT STAY HOME. VOTE for McCain! Too many 18 year olds (and maybe dead voters) will be voting this election and you cannot afford to sit this one out. For the good of your country–make country first and teach these undemocratic Dem leaders that we won’t be pushed around and we will not vote in this inept scoundrel regardless of the label he’s wearing.

    If not Hillary (as POTUS ONLY), McCain 08!

  • KarenAnn

    I know that Hillary has to campaign for Obama and has to tell her supporters to support him. If she doesn’t she will never get any future support from the party. If she doesn’t she will be blamed for his failure. Of course she will probably be anyway. She is nothing if not pragmatic. However, it doesn’t mean that when she gets into that voting booth she will actually vote for him.

    Here is another 61 year old who will never ever ever vote for The One. I am not thrilled to do so but I will vote for McCain this year. I least I know where he stands, he is not a ‘blank screen that I can project what I want on to’.

    PUMA

    • eriezindian

      Same age here. Will never vote for Obambi. I feel sorry for Hillary but will try to understand why she has to do what she is doing. She knows the score and cannot let loose with her honest opinion. I will never vote BHO and will always support Hillary, now or in the future. The party has to lose and lose big to get us over this fiasco. If I had any down tickets Dems other than John Murtha, I would not vote for them. BHO’s supporters need to be taught a lesson. PUMA

  • http://BHOtroll sakel

    Excellent analysis by William Arnone!

    Obama has on numerous occasions attempted to denigrate and diminish the legacy of the Clinton Presidency, sacrificing the truth to the altar of his oversized political ambitions.

    I remember back in January when he spoke in his speech admiringly of the “Trajectory of Reagan and Nixon(!) while not saying a word about the Clinton years” How arrogant and obamyopic can you be to ignore the eight years in which America was not reviled world-wide but respected while a rejuvenation of women’s issues took place with the highest appointment of women in top jobs in the
    Clinton years.

    1992 was named the Women’s Year by many who thought it ushered in a more bright era for women aspiring for political office.\

    Obama has offered us instead his rapper-wannabe stylistic incongruities and cheap comedian’s skills on display on youtube’s mega-hit:

    “OBAMA GIVES HILLARY THE FINGER” – where he “flip-offs” disgracefully his fellow female senator while dusting her off his shoulders and scraping off his shoes (as if excrement!)! Now that’s Change we can do without! And Ludacris on every White House staffer’s ipod….

    Rick Warren at Saddleback delivered the lethal blow to Obama when he cut him off while BHO was meandering about “me me me and me” and he “when I grew up i discovered that it isn’t about ME”–epiphany at last? Rev. Warren jumped in with:

    “I like that…not about *you*”..at which point the audience burst into wild applause!

    Meantime, lesser Christians have to put up with his me-andering daily on the misogynist media frat-boys’ playpen…Where are you Hillary!…

  • texaslatina

    same here. 6th generation texan and 3rd generation democrat and i will vote mccain. and not just me, all 3 generations in my latino family will be voting mccain. sad, 3 generations of democrats down the tubes thanks to the dnc. no-obama! ever!

  • MomWhoCares4USA

    47-year-old mom here who will be voting for McCain if Obama is the nominee.

  • http://BHOtroll sakel

    Wisewoman

    Right on! A third party is badly needed: THE PUMA CENTRIST PARTY OF THE PEOPLE.

    Third Parties work and they bring in Universal Health Care when the 2 major parties have a minority position. Ask the Canadians who’ve been blessed since 1965 with Universal Health Care thanks to 3rd Party (New Democratic Party or NDP)! And Women’s Equality Rights are constitutionally protected since 1982.

    Pumas, go let ‘em hear you roar!

    Nobama ’08

  • Gene Eide

    No quarter means “not a chance”, in esence, kill or be killed. I onsider it a sad staste of affairs when it’s dowm to this. But here it is.
    “We the people” are limited down to a two party state. When did this happen and why? We have a dire need for another party, to stop all this conflict, the name calling and the huge financial loads put upon the people we want to lead this country. An “Independant” party would allow a more eqwuitable solution. I have voted both parties and no parties because I’m sick of the mess that evolves. We need an Abe Lincoln to come stompin’ in to quiet things down. A penniless guy witn honest eyes, a deep voice that needn’t be raised and long arms with huge working fists, that could build something out of this morass we’re foundering in. It may not be apparent to you all but we sincerely am in need. That would qualify as a candidate (without affiliation) in my book. Thats where I stand, and I’m surely not alone!

  • Danny

    People can vote for BS if they want.

    But I’m voting against the Party that betrayed my vote. I will not reward the DNC and Barry for stealing my democracy.

    I’m voting for McCain becuase it’s better the Devil you know than the Devil you don’t. We don’t have any idea what O pie hole would do – or do we?! He would drag this country through the gutter for 4 more years as Bush did.

    My faith is in John McCains INTEGRITY!

  • Linda Fl

    For the past few months I have been reading all these Hillary supporter blogs, and they have been saying exactly what I feel. Hillary should be our nominee, Obama is to inexperienced, to radical, and everyone seems anti Obama, which is how I feel. But I wonder what will happen to all these blogs when the convention is over? Even now some of them seem to be moving into Obama’s camp. I know one thing for SURE, this 60 year old will NEVER, and I do mean NEVER, come over to Obama’s side, no matter what Hillary or any other democratic says to try to convince me. The fact remains, Obama scares the chit out of me, I do honestly feel(with all my heart) he is a radical Islamic Muslim, out to to the US harm, and for that reason I will be voting for McCain this year, at least I know he loves America. The first Republican I have ever voted for in my 40 year voting history.

  • leo

    There are two baby-boomers right here. So sorry Hillary, we will not vote for Obama. We voted for you. Period. Amen.

  • Little Brother

    I’ve been on a business trip for about two weeks. I started tossing change from purchases made during the day into a plastic cup. In just 11 days, I’ve gathered $8.63. If 18,000,000 of you cry-babies would do the same, and send it to poor, Ms. Down and Out, she’d have $133,340,000 in the her kitty for 2012!!! That’s after paying her $22,000,000 debt off. That’s right, for the price of two venti Starbucks coffees (sorry for rubbing it in referencing latte’s, and eeg-heads)!!! Or, on the other hand, she could use the $40,000,000 she had stashed away in her General Election fund!!! Oops, does anyone remember that stash?