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Well, Are They Rising Or Not?

The waters, that is. Now, I know that Obama claimed when the nomination was given to him by the DNC (cue angelic choirs), “this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal…” Oh, how I wish I was kidding, but that is just one of the Great Moments that would occur because the will of the people was subverted (ah, democracy – dontcha just love it??).

But now we are finding out that this threat may have been overstated, though I seriously doubt it is as a result of Obama’s claims. Actually, it is worse than that. As it turns out, Climate Scientists Withdraw Journal Claims of Rising Sea Levels.

Say what?

Again, I believe in being a good steward of this planet on which we make our home regardless of how much the claims of global warming may, or may not, be exaggerated. I have long been an environmentalist, and do not feel compelled to change that underlying belief because a bunch of scientists may, or may not, have fudged the data.

But here’s the thing. This is my front yard:

So, not only does this matter to me in a big picture way, it matters to me in a very personal, direct way. As it is, insurance companies like State Farm have stopped insuring people who live on the coast in these here parts like I do (our insurance is with Lloyds of London – I kid you not).

And we get articles like this in our daily newspaper, “Coalition Hoping For Sea Change As Ocean Levels Rise,” that contain information in them that scares the absolute bejesus out of Lowcountry residents, like me:

An international group of climate scientists predicted last fall that sea levels will rise by 23 inches this century as the oceans warm, which would be roughly double the rise documented during the last century.

That prediction from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change did not account for the record-setting pace of melting polar ice, however.

“The potential is so astounding, if it continues,” Duke University Professor Orrin Pilkey said at a panel discussion in Charleston addressing the issue. “I think that 3 to 5 feet is a conservative estimate for coastal management here.”

Holy crappydoo – that would make a HUGE change in terms of where I live right now, especially when we are already getting high tides that leave the water lapping the bottom of our docks. But add to that the fact that this is Hurricane Alley. If waters are truly rising, the impact of a hurricane hitting at the “right” time will surely increase the levels of devastation, will they not?

Well, yes, if THIS article is to be believed, “Study: Warming To Bring Stronger Hurricanes“:

Knutson said the new study, which looks at worldwide projections, doesn’t make clear whether global warming will lead to more or less hurricane damage on balance. But he pointed to a study he co-authored last month that looked at just the Atlantic hurricane basin and predicted that global warming would trigger a 28 percent increase in damage near the U.S. despite fewer storms.

That study suggests category 4 and 5 Atlantic hurricanes — those with winds more than 130 mph — would nearly double by the end of the century. On average, a category 4 or stronger hurricane hits the United States about once every seven years, mostly in Florida or Texas. Recent category 4 or 5 storms include 2004′s Charley and 1992′s Andrew, but not Katrina which made landfall as a strong category 3.

Outside experts praised the work.

The study does a good job of summarizing the current understanding of storms and warming, said Chunzai Wang, a researcher with NOAA who had no role in the study.

I am more confused than ever. These are not abstract issues to me. They are very, very real, impacting people I know, cities I love, and my very home. So, do we believe this research, or do we not?

Which raises the bigger question: When did “Scientific Method” become so incredibly subjective? Who, or what, is gaining from these questionable studies? If there truly is global warming, which I have long believed to be true because I trusted that these scientists were doing their work based not on politics, but DATA, and that is not being called into question, what are we to believe?

Again – these are not abstract questions to me, or to the community in which I live. We have to plan for these kinds of changes, if they are indeed true. We have to plan what to do in the event of such catastrophic changes, for our homes, and even our docks, not to mention our investments. Are they scaring the crap out of us because they know for a fact this is happening, or because there is some other incentive for doing so? The recent article claiming there has been no “global warming” in 15 years seems to contradict the NEW study claiming hurricanes are getting worse BECAUSE of global warming.

Good grief – can someone help me out here?

  • arabella trefoil

    Science is grinding grunt work. Research needs to be funded, planned, carried out, written up, and then peer reviewed. Long and tedious process that seems like academic hair-splitting. But it’s necessary to follow the scientific method.

    Politics and science don’t mix. We have, unfornately, a poorly educated public when it comes to the maths and the sciences. And don’t even get me started on the media.

    The big problem is that in looking at things like geology and climate change we are dealing with what scientists call “deep time.” We are here only for a short time. Maybe our grandparents can give us some information about what the weather was like in their day, but even so we are looking at a very, very limited time frame in the greater scheme of things. There have been heating and cooling periods going on since the earth was formed 4.5 billion years ago.

    I just spent a mind numbing afternoon listening to a lecture on stromalites, proteobacteria, biofilms, archeobacteria, and sulfur reducing bacteria. We finally got up to “the great oxidation event” when cyanobacteria introduced oxygen to our planet. Yeah, I kept looking at my watch. And we are only up to about 3.5 billion years ago.

    It’s going to be a long semester.

    (And a nurse needs to know this ….. why?)

  • mortuus lark

    Arabella says, And a nurse needs to know this ….. why?

  • sowsear

    We have a vacation home which is three or four blocks from the ocean. Our insurance is with Lloyds of London also, although it is handled by an American company. You have to read the fine print.

  • mortuus lark

    RRRA says, Good grief – can someone help me out here?

    I am pretty sure you don’t want my help.

  • jbjd

    …so that when you encounter a seemingly new species of virus or bacteria, instead of checking and cross-checking your work, you will be able to deduce this unknown strain has evolved from a known strain…   or, so that you will able to volunteer for the team that examine a life form frozen whole in the arctic permafrost, found in a hole dug by scientists who were searching for evidence of global warming.

  • jbjd

    …so that when you encounter a seemingly new species of virus or bacteria, instead of checking and cross-checking your work, you will be able to deduce this unknown strain has evolved from a known strain…   or, so that you will able to volunteer for the team that examines a life form frozen whole in the arctic permafrost, found in a hole dug by scientists who were searching for evidence of global warming.

  • Docelder

    We used to have really great homeowners for $800 a year. Al Gore said we are going to have big storms every year from now on. Our insurer left Florida. The cheapest we could get some unknown crappy but marginally acceptable coverage was $3000 a year and it won’t cover sinkholes now where the old one did. Thanks Al. Way to go you jackass.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Yes, ours is handled by an American Co., as well.  The proximity to the ocean is the deal…

    Arabella, thanks for your thoughtful response.  I like history and science, but wow – I’d have to drink a LOT of cappuccinos to get through that stuff!  :)

    True enough that we are here a short time, and it is a long, long process, to be sure.  But the main point you made is a good one – science and politics don’t (or shouldn’t) mix…

  • mortuus lark

    :-E …able to deduce… Your kidding, no?

  • mortuus lark

    RRRA said, we are here a short time

    I have eternal life. I am here forever.

  • mortuus lark

    And a 5 percent deductible for hurricane losses – limited to the main structure of course. But you know that there are these people who always find a way to jack up the price of the claim in order to include the deductible – and if you are not one of them you have to pay for their fraudulent higher claim. And there is no way you will know about that. Because the fraud is committed by the contractor who gives the inflated estimate to begin with. And the contractor is getting a kick back too.

    Life is so happy for those who have to pay for all the corruption that “deacons” and good church going people like to do when it is their turn at it.

    Life is so good for those who pay for the sins of the rest.

  • oowawa

    Thee One: “This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal . . . ”

    News headline: “Climate Scientists Withdraw Claims of Rising Sea Level . . .”

    Well, Rev. Amy–you have to admit–He was right!  Finally, a campaign promise that has been fulfilled!

  • mortuus lark

    What would be easier RRRA, to know if Saddam had weapons of mass destruction or to know if the planet is warming?

  • felizarte

    In all the discussions of the volume of CO2 in the atmosphere, I have not read a single mention of the effect of deforestation all over the world and the human population increase which in turn require more meat production.  As I remember in my grade school science class, plants (including plankton) consume co2 for food and produce oxygen which animals breathe. Of course, encouraging people to plant or reforest, is too simple and does not allow companies to make enormous profits with the cap and trade bill pending.   They present world temperature data which do not factor in variables such as sunspots, wind currents that naturally affect weather.  They really have massaged their numbers to support their desired conclusions as to the necessary solutions.  It’s mendacity all around.  

  • Docelder

    Saddam did have WMD’s. Just not when we invaded him. We know he used gas on his own people and we know he was oaying with anthrax and yellow cake. So he did have these at one time. But the AGW theory was never proven to s scientific standard. Not counting Al Gore of course. He is special, but so is Barack, and so is Nancy. I think I see a pettern here. The pattern is entitlement.

  • Geoff Kucera

    Amy,

    Read this article from Understanding Science and note the similarities to the present debate.

    Your questions will be answered.

  • mortuus lark

    RRRA do you know what Christopher Columbus did to make sure the Queen of Spain, her Court and the rest of the people of Europe believe him that he had reached India? And he did that even though he had more than 50 Jews that had been witnessed of that.

    Do you know what Klondike ice cream bar did to make the top chocolate cover thicker?

  • Geoff Kucera

    About 6-8 weeks ago, I came across an article published by a well known environmental group known for being a strong proponent of the AGW theory and being environmental nazis in general, to wit Greenpeace.  Its own data, although supportive of increased CO2 levels in the atmosphere, did not support a conclusion that it was the result of combustion of fossil fuels. The data showed that just the deforestation of the Amazon rain forest by itself had decreased the ability of plant life to absorb CO2 far in excess of all the CO2 emitted from burning fossil fuel in all the cars, trucks, planes, trains and ships used worldwide.  Clearly, non-scientist AGW proponents in government and NGO’s, like Al Gore,  are using data to support false conclusions for one simple purpose: increased usurpation of national sovereignty by unelected and therefore unaccountable international organizations, similar to the model of UN and EU governance, in which a permanent class of ruling elites can flourish.

  • Docelder

    Exactly yes, because we had “climate” scientists as a closed clan group who share and protect the research grants given to the concept of AGW. These scientists not only kept the data from the scientific community at large, but they disregarded and marginalized meteorology scientists who actually understood weather patterns. They disregarded scientific data taken as infrared readings emitted from the Earth from space… these had been colected since 1970. But, for some reason they decided that tree rings make better thermometers than infrared detecting satellites. Some science. This is the problem with academia at large. They are largely myopic as a gaggle and each clan pretty much keeps to themselves. There ought to be more “team” in science.

  • Jackie

    Talk to your Republican friends, Amy.  They are the ones screwing you over on this issue.  Make them see the light.

  • Docelder

    Here is an off topic but interestingn story that state partnered media will never report on. The white house has offered jobs to a couple of senate candidates in two separate states to get them out of the race for the senate.

    There ought to be a law… and apparently there is one.

    Whoever solicits or receives … any….thing of value, in consideration of the promise of support or use of influence in obtaining for any person any appointive office or place under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.” – 18 USC Sec. 211 — Bribery, Graft and Conflicts of Interest: Acceptance or solicitation to obtain appointive public office

    http://spectator.org/archives/2010/02/22/specter-race-scandal-sestak-ac/

  • felizarte

    BINGO Doc!
    exactly yes, because we had “climate” scientists as a closed clan group who share and protect the research grants given to the concept of AGW. These scientists not only kept the data from the scientific community at large, but they disregarded and marginalized meteorology scientists who actually understood weather patterns.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Welcome back Amy!!!  I see you will be able to walk on water that one not so much!

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Really what do we believe when there is so much conflicting information about global warming or climate change. Such mockery of with emails that were seen to make mishmash out of all the information going around?

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Really what do we believe when there is so much conflicting information about global warming or climate change? The emails circulating made a mockery out of all the information going around?

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Welcome back Amy!!!  I see you will be able to walk on water that one not so much!  (joke)

  • felizarte

    Geof, that is very useful information and I agree with your other comments about the elites.  We really should bring these things out more so that ordinary people can also see the deceptive meme.  Trying to stampede everyone into supporting measures like cap n trade which I think is just a very clever way of siphoning off tax dollars and making ordinary consumers pay for their obscene profits.   

  • felizarte

    Geoff, that is very useful information and I agree with your other comments about the elites.  We really should bring these things out more so that ordinary people can also see the deceptive meme.  Trying to stampede everyone into supporting measures like cap n trade which I think is just a very clever way of siphoning off tax dollars and making ordinary consumers pay for their obscene profits.   

  • kenoshamarge

    If we want to be good citizens of planet earth we need to reuse, recycle, re-purpose, and compost. We need to carry our own reusable shopping bags and eliminate the question of “paper or plastic” from our shopping excursions. There are many things we as individuals can and should do.

    I do all of the above. (patting self on back) I do it because I hate waste and believe that the things I do will help to keep the world greener and cleaner than if I didn’t. I feel an obligation to my children and grandchildren to do so. I also taught them as well.

    I don’t believe all the “warmers” any more than I believe all the “deniers”. Once politics entered the equation any chance for an honest debate or honest answers left the room.

    I do know that deforestation causes many problems. Fixing that problem would be something that few, if any, people would deny or fight. Why not start with the possible? Any good step is better than no step IMO.

    Sorry, on my soap box with this but it’s something I believe is important only to those of us that intend to continue to live on this planet.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    LOL, oowawa – I am sure that is how he is going to spin it, even though, as came out last week, it was admitted there have been no changes from global warming in 15 yrs. 

    Is this like Thee One’s claim that Selma inspired his parents to have him, even though he was born four years before the March?

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Thanks, Geoff – I appreciate it, and your other thoughtful comments, as well. 

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Um, I am not sure why you are blaiming the Republicans for this – I am sure both parties have benefitted from these claims, not just one. 

    And that’s the problem.

    Are you making the assumption that I am a Republican (I’m not), or casting aspersions on some of the thoughtful Republicans who comment here?  Just wondering. 

    Here’s what I have learned – to blindly follow ANY one party is unacceptable, as much as blindly blaiming any one party is unacceptable. 

    One of my seminary professors, James Cone (yes, that James Cone, fther of Black Lib. Theology), one should question one’s beliefs on a daily basis to make suer one still believes the same thing.  He was talking abt theology, but I think it is applicable to politics as well.

    No one party in this country is above reproach, at least not that I have seen…

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    I saw that, Doc – I just shook my head in disgust.

    Gee, think the Justice Dept. is going to do anything abt this?

    AHAHAHAHAHA…

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Thanks, Just Me – I appreciate it!

    And funny!!  :-D

  • Freedom Fighter

    Climate change causes extreme weather patterns making warm places warmer, and cold places colder. That means the poles will get colder as the equator gets hotter. More ice will accumulate at the north and especially south pole, thus, causing ocean levels to drop.

  • FrenchNail

    I learned the hard way (the roof blown away way) that around 90% of Hurricane insurance claims are roof damages and an average roof is about (TADA!!!!) 5% of the value of your house….

  • Docelder

    Sounds like the normal cyclical 20-30 year cooling period that meteorology scientists are talking about now. Climate science is pretty much tainted now. They are going to have to regroup. Even if we passed cap and tax, the rest of the world would just call us stupid. China is now the biggest importer of Saudi oil. So, we aren’t using it here and they are just usng it instead for us and selling us the products made with it. Didn’t accomplish much did it? Since Obama doesn’t have the nerve to even let the Dalai Lama use the front door, I don’t see the President getting tough with China anytime soon. and I don’t see us stopping the flow of Chinese made goods either. All our anti industry effort has just displaced work to countries that are pro industry. This is the product of the new democrats… unemployment, property devaluation, dollar devaluation and loss of world power. Some resume.

  • oowawa

    Yep–And the amazing thing is he stopped the ocean’s rise only a quarter of the way through his first term!  Thee One indeed!

  • Docelder

    Now we see this:

    Senator James Inhofe (R-OK) today asked the Obama administration to investigate what he called “the greatest scientific scandal of our generation”

    Senator Inhofe also called for former Vice President Al Gore to be called back to the Senate to testify. “In [Gore's] science fiction movie, every assertion has been rebutted,” Inhofe said. He believes Vice President Gore should defend himself and his movie before Congress.

    http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/climategate-and-the-law-senator-inhofe-to-ask-for-congressional-criminal-investigation-pajamas-mediapjtv-exclusive/

  • Docelder

    I guess we have also found the “crisis” which can actually be solved by simply renaming it. Maybe we ought to do this will all crises. Rename it, and if it can’t withstand the name change, then it wasn’t a real crisis to begin with.

  • Docelder

    Or like the anti-war speech that was recreated for the campaign?

  • No Longer Banned in Beantown

    Time used to be that when someone claimed to be able to slow the oceans and heal the earth that he’d be given a white jacket with tie downs, and be carted off by men in white suits.

  • oowawa

    But the Earth has not seen this kind of power in, oh, about 2010 years or so . .
    (click image to enlarge)

  • karen for Clinton

    The rhetoric from both sides has eased since Copenhagen.  It cost us tax payers millions of dollars to send Nancy and her privilidged crew of followers there for a short lookie-loo at hog wash and bickering central.

    Fact check, yes, Annenberg, infamous for obama and the Annenburg challenge, says basically we readers need to come to our own conclusions.  We are the judge and jury and the reliable facts seem to be few and far between. 

    What say ye?  All seas rise… or fall.  I went to see Al’s movie when it came out and was very moved by it.  My how things have changed.

    http://www.factcheck.org/2010/02/climate-science-slipping/
    I hate winter and it is brutal where I live.  I was hoping for early tulips.

  • No Longer Banned in Beantown

    Exactly.

    Shouldn’t The One be in rumpled clothes, yelling his proclamations on city street corners at no one in particular?

    Really, he missed is true calling.

  • Docelder

    Jesus threw the money changers out of the temple… whereas Plastic Messiah bailed the money changers out with the temple goers money.

  • Diana L. Croissant

    RRRA,

    So you’ve got me ruminating on this problem.

    First, I go to some of the basic things people should think about when doing research.  In this issue over whether or not global warming and rising seas are occurring, I think of three things we should all consider when reading research:  the “argumentum ad baculum,” the consideration of whether or not research was set up so as NOT to come to “a priori” conclusions, and in more common terms “consider the source.”

    But then I think personally.  I remember being very young, about junior high age, and reading a book of first-hand accounts and reporting on famous natural disasters.  The one that sticks out in my mind was the chapter on the Galveston Flood.  It terrified me, and I swore I would never live close to a coastal region.  Coming from the eastern part of Colorado, I decided I was in a good position; and I am such a homebody with a large extended family, I’ve decided to remain her most of my life.  Very few natural disasters here.

    I even remember a high school senior I taught.  Her mother was from Germany.  She had relocated her family to the drylands of north-eastern Colorado because she thought it was one of the least likely places to experience a bombing.

    I did live in Indianapolis for two years, and there I experienced the edge of a bad tornado.  It was not fun, and the poor 70-year-old neighbor who had lived there her entire life was always at my door every time there was a warning.  She had become so frightened by them she could not bear to be alone. 

    I moved home and after some years settled in Lakewood, CO, for a few years.  Pretty safe there from natural disasters.  BUT……thanks to a lazy ditch rider, my backyard flooded on day while I was teaching a class two blocks away.  I came home to find two feet of water in the basement of my rental house.  I lost all my scrapbooks and photo albums. 

    That finally blew my theory that we are protected because of where we live.

    That’s what has finally left me accepting some of the old Bible passages I learned growing up in a very religious family.  “Time and chance happeneth to all.”  “All is vanity.”  These come from what is probably my favorite book of the Old Testament (or Hebrew Bible to be politically correct.)

    I then have finally decided to live as the “birds of the field” and enjoy each day as it comes.

    It’s that or go crazy.  ;)

  • I’m a Linda too

    i so agree with you RRRA.  Let me also say how sorry I was to hear about your Mom.  I tried to leave a msg on your blog, but I couldn’t.  So, my sincerest condolences.

    On this, I so did believe what we were being told.  And more and more it is showing to be a lie.  Jesse Ventura’s Conspiracy Theory did a good job on this and he too was a previous believer of Al Gore.  As he said “follow the money”.

    What I do know is, Al Gore insisted it was man made global warming because we now had proof that our warming was not like other trends.  And that we jumped in 2004.  OOOPS.  It turns out that the temp’s have peaked in 99-00, with not much warming in the 2nd half of the 90′s decade and that we are indeed now cooling.  That really blows to sh!t Al’s “non debatable fact”.  @#$%$#@!

    Then comes the fact that the data was manipulated to show what they wanted and they threw away the data they used to help fudge the outcomes.  We only find this all out, because their emails were hacked.

    Then we find out that the Himalayan melt, their number 2 BIGGIE as proof ,is also a tale.  They used a claim, not supported by any fact or data from an Indian Scientest  that the IPCC just added in to their report.

    Then we find out they also added unsupported claims from civil servants in Africa about the crops.

    And now we find out the Ice Shelf break off was probably due to Ocean waves, not melt.

    And then I ask WHY were they all insistent on passing Cap and Trade when that would do nothing to solve the problem, but drive up energy costs.  The first step to their Global Dollar and control.

    And funny how all the “coastal” areas…the most expensive…and desired, are the areas.

    They have lied.  I do not trust them now.  I believe in taking care of our planet and not to add toxins, but tell me, why have we stopped hearing about sequestering carbon from Coal plants, when they were on the heals of passing Cap and Trade?

    No, I think this was about power, control and money for the elite few.

    And more and more I am hearing the talking point “I trust those who are smarter than me [in govt]“.  WHAT?  This is Marxism all the way. Govt is not smarter, they just get greedy and are in a position to stay in power and reap the rewards.  They are the ones you should be trusting LAST.  History has shown that!

    I say they better come clean. Start dealing with real issues to solve real problems and start working on making a mends to the people.

  • beachnan

    Docelder, shouldn’t you also be giving a shout out to our wonderful insurance companies, which willingly take our money, but don’t want to pay out when the shit hits the fan?

  • Docelder

    Yep, they always take the same slice of the “pie”. So, th ebigger the pie the bigger the slice. That hurts us in all kinds of insurance across the board. To the extent that we make insurance “prepaid medical” or some retirement an investment vehicle, we just lose that much more of our money to these greedy bastards. I said it… greedy bastards. But they know how to play politics and they have the money to pay to play. What hurts real people the most is that we can’t afford to buy good representation anymore.

  • EllenD

    I’m not going to debate Global Warming here as there are more qualified people than me that can discuss it.

    What struck me about Rev Amy’s comments is the philosphy of insurance. It seems like science is being used to deny insurance (both property and health) or else being used to raise the rates for some groups that the insurance companies now think are higher risk.

    Perhaps private insurance is an outdated idea and we need state or community non-profit pools instead. Is our science targetting more people making “shared risk” something that for-profits cannot handle any more because their duty to their shareholders is to minimize all risk?

    I’d be interested if anyone has encountered discussions or papers on this subject.

  • Onofre’s arm

    Actually Amy, the attribution and blaming for all of our problems, real or imagined, should be more finely focused on INDIVIDUALS rather than parties or groups of similar minded people. It would be silly to blame ALL Democrats or Republicans for any particular malady, when individuals like Barney Frank, or Richard Nixon are so demonstrably responsible for discrete instances of rotten policy and intention. A large and sloppy brush is used for white washing, while a very fine brush is used to bring out precise details.  

  • Doc99

    Rev … You need to revisit the late Michael Crichton on Environmentalism as a Religion.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv9OSxTy1aU

    His words still ring true today.

    Hide the Decline!

  • oowawa

    Ooooo–good one, Doc.  I’m writing that down . . .

  • I’m a Linda too

    I agree what you’re saying about science being trumped by the almighty dollar, but our govt won’t fix it if they don’t want to.  Look, we’re facing that now this HI MED bill they have been putting through.  A board to dictate who can get coverage and when.  And that Obama himself believes in cutting off bene’s when the rate of return is there.  Forget the fact that they’ve been giving their entire life, waiting for their share of not worrying when they get older.

    Same reason our govt wants cap and trade.  Has nothing to do with limiting pollution, but trading permits on Wall Street.

    Did you know our govt just okayed Google to start selling and trading energy…ie Enron?

    This govt is the perfect example of hijacking the peoples govt while they aren’t paying attention and turning it in to Fascism.

  • Onofre’s arm

    Oowawa, can you imagine the kind of loser artist who would spend their time creating such utter nonsense? I smell the NEA.

  • Onofre’s arm

    For a very balanced and entertaining lesson in climate change, read Crichton’s novel “State of Fear”. Bottom line, mankind has very little effect on climate, and CO2 production is only a fraction of man’s effect. Land use practices have a far greater influence on the climate than CO2 production, but you won’t hear so much about that because the vast majority of harmful land use practices occur in third world countries, and CO2 production is much greater in industrial countries. The entire IPCC position, and efforts by individuals like Algore, was never really about saving the planet, it was always about fleecing the “Haves” of the world, justified with the false excuse of saving the “Have-nots” of the world, in order to further enrich the “Well-connected” of the world. 

  • oowawa

    Well, Onofre’s arm, I would not attempt to classify the work of painter Alex Grey, except to say that I’m pretty sure the work is not meant satirically:

    http://www.alexgrey.com/

  • Docelder

    A snow hurricane for the northeast Thursday and Frday. More global warming? More like that 20-30 year cyclical mini ice age the meteorologists were talking about is for real. Meteorologists are scientists too. Actually they are more scientific than “climate” scientists.

    http://www.accuweather.com/regional-news-story.asp?region=eastusnews

  • arabella trefoil

    I am so-o-o-o glad I don’t have classes on Thursday and Friday. The campus is only 20 minutes away, but the roads are up and down hilly country and magnets for accidents.

    I love science. I wanted to be an archeologist when I was a little girl. I have a BA from Boston University, and I had some wonderful professors there, including Dr. Lynn Margolis.

    I have to re-take some courses because my degree is “old” and I am thoroughly enjoying the experience. Some classes are nursing students only. (That is “Chemistry for Nurses” “Anatomy and Physiology for Nurses” etc.) In some classes like Microbiology, the students are a mix of nursing students, pre-med students, and biology majors.

    Microbiology is amazingly complex. I’m having to work very hard to keep up. When I see these young scientists working on their projects and learning from mentors, I am interested in what drives them to such dedication. Scientists are a breed apart. They are trained to look at things in a certain way. It is very difficult to communicate this to the non-science community.

    Stations like Discovery and The History Channel have done a lot to make science more accessible to the general public. I truly believe the problem comes in when people watch shows like CSI or Law and Order and think that “science” is cut and dried and infallible.

    Funding is so hard to come by. Either you get a govenment grant, or a drug company sponsors you, etc. How is research to remain untainted? We see the toxic results of manipulating data toward a political/economic end in the Global Warming fiasco.

    I just hope the public doesn’t lose trust in science. We need more good science and math students!

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