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]]> By: andysf http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/42468/rev-james-meeks-takes-on-the-new-slave-masters-2/#comment-1311997 andysf Fri, 26 Feb 2010 06:12:35 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=42468#comment-1311997 Why is it that teachers always get the blame? I really have a problem with how the teacher are treated in this country. The are under paid for the most important job, that's to educate the hope and future of this country. It's the parents' job to ensure that their kid are doing their best on getting educated. I went to over 20 school tours before choosing a school for my 5 yr old girl, a public school. When I told the teacher that she's being to easy on my daughter, she's worried that some parents already complaint about her being to strict. The inner city school have parents that are just over protective of  their kids. They want the teach to do magic without giving them any room to do their job. The community leaders ( does this ring a bell?) are inciting hatred for teacher to gain political capital or influence. Just let the teacher do their work. Why is it that teachers always get the blame? I really have a problem with how the teacher are treated in this country. The are under paid for the most important job, that’s to educate the hope and future of this country. It’s the parents’ job to ensure that their kid are doing their best on getting educated.

I went to over 20 school tours before choosing a school for my 5 yr old girl, a public school. When I told the teacher that she’s being to easy on my daughter, she’s worried that some parents already complaint about her being to strict.

The inner city school have parents that are just over protective of  their kids. They want the teach to do magic without giving them any room to do their job. The community leaders ( does this ring a bell?) are inciting hatred for teacher to gain political capital or influence.

Just let the teacher do their work.

]]> By: AnnieCarmel http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/42468/rev-james-meeks-takes-on-the-new-slave-masters-2/#comment-1311410 AnnieCarmel Thu, 25 Feb 2010 07:52:30 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=42468#comment-1311410 Professional victims. Professional victims.

]]> By: lorac http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/42468/rev-james-meeks-takes-on-the-new-slave-masters-2/#comment-1311396 lorac Thu, 25 Feb 2010 05:16:04 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=42468#comment-1311396 I agree about the personal and parental responsibility - maybe it would be called the "family culture".  There seems to be something different today - my parents have told me that most poor people when they were growing up (and they were among them) in New York were taught by their parents to study so they could get ahead in life.  My mom said that the high schools then were separated by "track" - some schools focused on vocational training, and some focused on academic learning.  She herself chose to go to a high school that was predominately Jewish, even though she wasn't Jewish, because the kids in that school took education seriously and she wanted to be in that environment. I'm starting to think they should start having the different high schools again - vocational vs. academic.  Acting like every kid is going to go to college only frustrates those kids with less ability, and holds back the higher achievers.  I agree with the person on this thread who said we should start focusing on teaching kids to their potential. I agree about the personal and parental responsibility – maybe it would be called the “family culture”.  There seems to be something different today – my parents have told me that most poor people when they were growing up (and they were among them) in New York were taught by their parents to study so they could get ahead in life.  My mom said that the high schools then were separated by “track” – some schools focused on vocational training, and some focused on academic learning.  She herself chose to go to a high school that was predominately Jewish, even though she wasn’t Jewish, because the kids in that school took education seriously and she wanted to be in that environment.

I’m starting to think they should start having the different high schools again – vocational vs. academic.  Acting like every kid is going to go to college only frustrates those kids with less ability, and holds back the higher achievers.  I agree with the person on this thread who said we should start focusing on teaching kids to their potential.

]]> By: lorac http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/42468/rev-james-meeks-takes-on-the-new-slave-masters-2/#comment-1311393 lorac Thu, 25 Feb 2010 04:47:18 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=42468#comment-1311393 felizarte - that's not how they do it here - here they bus kids all over the place.  They put the college prep schools in the poor neighborhoods and bus the kids in, and they put schools with other themes (arts, languages, etc) in other areas and bus those kids in.  I don't think most kids go to their neighborhood school here. Personally, I think the ideal situation would be kids going to their neighborhood schools, instead of spending two hours a day on a bus.  But as long as schools are funded by property taxes, poor neighborhoods will always have inferior schools.  And I don't believe the disparity is about race - it's about income.  After all, most poor people are white.  <em>Within</em> each race the percentages of poor are different, but in terms of actual numbers, most poor are white.  I really wish they would find some other way to fund schools, because the current way is only going to perpetuate poor schools being in poor neighborhoods. As far as Meeks wanting 42,000 vouchers for kids - even without debating whether vouchers are the answer or not - what I wonder is, do the other schools (the higher quality schools) have 42,000 spots open?  I guess I just don't get how that would work.  Will those schools continue to be superior when all the classes are overcrowded, will there be enough supplies for that many extra kids, etc.....? felizarte – that’s not how they do it here – here they bus kids all over the place.  They put the college prep schools in the poor neighborhoods and bus the kids in, and they put schools with other themes (arts, languages, etc) in other areas and bus those kids in.  I don’t think most kids go to their neighborhood school here.

Personally, I think the ideal situation would be kids going to their neighborhood schools, instead of spending two hours a day on a bus.  But as long as schools are funded by property taxes, poor neighborhoods will always have inferior schools. 

And I don’t believe the disparity is about race - it’s about income.  After all, most poor people are white.  Within each race the percentages of poor are different, but in terms of actual numbers, most poor are white.  I really wish they would find some other way to fund schools, because the current way is only going to perpetuate poor schools being in poor neighborhoods.

As far as Meeks wanting 42,000 vouchers for kids – even without debating whether vouchers are the answer or not – what I wonder is, do the other schools (the higher quality schools) have 42,000 spots open?  I guess I just don’t get how that would work.  Will those schools continue to be superior when all the classes are overcrowded, will there be enough supplies for that many extra kids, etc…..?

]]> By: EllenD http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/42468/rev-james-meeks-takes-on-the-new-slave-masters-2/#comment-1311386 EllenD Thu, 25 Feb 2010 04:23:12 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=42468#comment-1311386 Larry, I said I'm not interested in what MEEKS has tp say after that. Not you. Larry, I said I’m not interested in what MEEKS has tp say after that. Not you.

]]> By: kgirl1028 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/42468/rev-james-meeks-takes-on-the-new-slave-masters-2/#comment-1311380 kgirl1028 Thu, 25 Feb 2010 04:00:10 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=42468#comment-1311380 It'as about time people woke up and started realizing that the dems of the 21 century have far too much in common with those of the 18th, and the only real difference is that now women and the gay and lesbian community are working the fields with us. How ever republicans are hardly better, those fools couldn't findtheir own behinds with a encyclopedia and a flash light.  And every day i see these morons snatch defeat from the jaws of victory trying to be fascist light to the neo-fascist on the left instead of listening to their constituents. They all disgust me, but one things for sure, once you realize you are on a plantation and you get a chance to get away do so and don't look back. ANd that precisely what i intend to do. I don't TRUST establishment democrats any longer, and any dem who get's my vote will have to impress me much the way in 2007 a repbulican would have and still has to do to get my vote. It’as about time people woke up and started realizing that the dems of the 21 century have far too much in common with those of the 18th, and the only real difference is that now women and the gay and lesbian community are working the fields with us. How ever republicans are hardly better, those fools couldn’t findtheir own behinds with a encyclopedia and a flash light.  And every day i see these morons snatch defeat from the jaws of victory trying to be fascist light to the neo-fascist on the left instead of listening to their constituents. They all disgust me, but one things for sure, once you realize you are on a plantation and you get a chance to get away do so and don’t look back. ANd that precisely what i intend to do. I don’t TRUST establishment democrats any longer, and any dem who get’s my vote will have to impress me much the way in 2007 a repbulican would have and still has to do to get my vote.

]]> By: lorac http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/42468/rev-james-meeks-takes-on-the-new-slave-masters-2/#comment-1311360 lorac Thu, 25 Feb 2010 03:02:13 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=42468#comment-1311360 MOS and PD:  I was going to say this, too.  I've seen that happen.  The mother moves to a safer neighborhood with better schools, but the kids are already troubled, and they infect the new neighborhood and school.  They bring the problems with them. MOS and PD:  I was going to say this, too.  I’ve seen that happen.  The mother moves to a safer neighborhood with better schools, but the kids are already troubled, and they infect the new neighborhood and school.  They bring the problems with them.

]]> By: Larry Doyle http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/42468/rev-james-meeks-takes-on-the-new-slave-masters-2/#comment-1311355 Larry Doyle Thu, 25 Feb 2010 02:44:51 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=42468#comment-1311355 Nothing succeeds like success. No doubt, this ultimately all starts and ends at home but there are plenty of homes and families who will make the sacrifices to allow their kids to attend a private/parochial school if there were the assistance of a voucher in place. Won't be solved overnight, nor will it be totally solved, but one kid at a time quickly multiplies and a degree of scale can be created. Nothing succeeds like success. No doubt, this ultimately all starts and ends at home but there are plenty of homes and families who will make the sacrifices to allow their kids to attend a private/parochial school if there were the assistance of a voucher in place.

Won’t be solved overnight, nor will it be totally solved, but one kid at a time quickly multiplies and a degree of scale can be created.

]]> By: Dave of Seattle http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/42468/rev-james-meeks-takes-on-the-new-slave-masters-2/#comment-1311356 Dave of Seattle Thu, 25 Feb 2010 02:44:51 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=42468#comment-1311356 it's political grandstanding to be sure. he'll be running for national office for sure. i remember Los Angeles had a black mayor before the storm; atlanta has been ruled by black politicians for decades and somewhere recent i recall a Detroit mayor un-repentful as any white dude I've met so when you sling the white mayors or the black pimp into your language, you've lost every level thinking person there is left (or right) in the world. it’s political grandstanding to be sure. he’ll be running for national office for sure. i remember Los Angeles had a black mayor before the storm; atlanta has been ruled by black politicians for decades and somewhere recent i recall a Detroit mayor un-repentful as any white dude I’ve met so when you sling the white mayors or the black pimp into your language, you’ve lost every level thinking person there is left (or right) in the world.

]]> By: No Longer Banned in Beantown http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/42468/rev-james-meeks-takes-on-the-new-slave-masters-2/#comment-1311343 No Longer Banned in Beantown Thu, 25 Feb 2010 02:19:52 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=42468#comment-1311343 Larry, no doubt aout it, Catholic schools in the inner city do a much better job of educating than public schools. But if you thnk you can solve the problem by handing out vouchers, and dumping all the failing pupils onto the Catholic school system, you have your head up you know where. The Catholic School system can save souls, but it is not going to save the inner city school system from its own self destruction. It is a pure numbers problem. It's like saying eveyone should be able to go to Harvard using vouchers. The Catholic Schools and Harvard cannot accomodate that many students.  If you want to fix the inner city school problem, then do it by fixing the inner city schools. Those communities have failed their kids, and they have no one to blame but themselves.  Larry, no doubt aout it, Catholic schools in the inner city do a much better job of educating than public schools. But if you thnk you can solve the problem by handing out vouchers, and dumping all the failing pupils onto the Catholic school system, you have your head up you know where.

The Catholic School system can save souls, but it is not going to save the inner city school system from its own self destruction. It is a pure numbers problem. It’s like saying eveyone should be able to go to Harvard using vouchers.

The Catholic Schools and Harvard cannot accomodate that many students. 

If you want to fix the inner city school problem, then do it by fixing the inner city schools. Those communities have failed their kids, and they have no one to blame but themselves. 

]]> By: Larry Doyle http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/42468/rev-james-meeks-takes-on-the-new-slave-masters-2/#comment-1311341 Larry Doyle Thu, 25 Feb 2010 02:12:36 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=42468#comment-1311341 Bob,  Last I checked education is supposed to be about.....the kids.  Bob, 

Last I checked education is supposed to be about…..the kids. 

]]> By: bob http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/42468/rev-james-meeks-takes-on-the-new-slave-masters-2/#comment-1311336 bob Thu, 25 Feb 2010 01:52:54 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=42468#comment-1311336 More union busting... More union busting…

]]> By: Larry Doyle http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/42468/rev-james-meeks-takes-on-the-new-slave-masters-2/#comment-1311330 Larry Doyle Thu, 25 Feb 2010 01:26:45 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=42468#comment-1311330 ?? a wife who takes her husband's name is a throwback to what??  Wow.  ?? a wife who takes her husband’s name is a throwback to what?? 

Wow. 

]]> By: ces http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/42468/rev-james-meeks-takes-on-the-new-slave-masters-2/#comment-1311324 ces Thu, 25 Feb 2010 01:11:38 +0000 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/?p=42468#comment-1311324 It's not just "urban". Most, if not all, schools in the Dallas-Fort Worth have a school officer whose full-time job is at that school. My wife's school has a squad car parked by the back doors every day.  It’s not just “urban”. Most, if not all, schools in the Dallas-Fort Worth have a school officer whose full-time job is at that school. My wife’s school has a squad car parked by the back doors every day. 

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