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The Smoking Man: A Debate

The word is out again. Our President can’t quit smoking.

I struggle with what this means. As an ex-smoker myself, I know how hard it is to give up cigarettes, especially when one is stressed out (as I am sure he is). Quitting was the hardest thing I’ve ever done, my personal Magnus Opus.

However, as a role model, a smoking POTUS is unacceptable, not to mention the health risks he foists upon himself (and others who may see following along as cool or as an excuse to to keep on puffing).

Some say that being unable to dump the deadly habit indicates a weakness of both his will and spirit.

Politics aside, where do you stand on this?

  • Murray

    ‘Way back in ’08, when I first discovered that the Bamster was a smoker, I honestly gasped, “Oh, no!  What will I tell the kids?!”

    How do you tell a teenager that it’s not cool to smoke, when the “kewlest guy EVAH” does?

    I wonder does he subject his kids to second-hand smoke.  No wonder Michelle remarked that the kids think he stinks (she said it was his feet, but we know better). 

    Yes, I know I’m hating on smokers.  The hardest thing I ever did was quit smoking.

  • felizarte

    I wonder if he smokes in the Oval Office.  Perhaps he should have a small room with a bar, with no ventilation designated for his smoking so he can have multi-benefits from 1st, 2nd, and 3rd hand smoke while drinking beer or some other strong drink.

  • Peggy Sue

    What a telling image, Pat.  The President lost in a haze of smoke [and I'm sure there are mirrors off stage, too].

    I’m an ex-smoker, who occasionally cheats when smoking friends and family are around.  In fact, I’m addicted to nicotine gum.  So, I certainly wouldn’t jump all over the POTUS because I know what the struggle is like.  In fact, I quit not as a health measure but because I really could no longer tolerate the odor [which oddly enough you're not aware of until you quit for the first time].

    Is it a good example to be setting?  No, especially for the young.  Is the President’s struggle understandable?  For me absolutely because I know if I had his job?  I’d be smoking like a damn chimney.  :-D

  • creeper

    This is a hard one for me.  I’m one of those smokers who can go for days without a cigarette and rarely smoke more than three a day though I never seem to quit completely.  

    Hubby, OTOH, is the strongest man I know but is powerless when it comes to nicotine.  He’s one step removed from the oxygen tank but still puffing away.  It’s his only vice.  Maybe that makes it harder.

    So I have some sympathy for Barry on this issue.  But I question whether he’s picked a quit-smoking method and really stuck to it.  So often a smoker will go on pills or the patch believing the hype…that it’s going to be easy if you do it this way.  Any fool knows that’s wrong.

    Since Barry’s the master of doing things the easy way, it’s no wonder he can’t quit.  I think his problem is as much a reflection of his basic personality as it is his nicotine addiction.  Quitting smoking takes work.  That’s just not in his makeup.  Quite frankly, I don’t think he really wants to quit.

    Dwight D. Eisenhower was a four-pack-a-day man when he was Supreme Allied Commander.  He quit cold turkey after he was elected President.  Too bad he’s not around to tell Barry how it’s done.

  • Captain Jack Sparrow

    The Country is going down the tubes and this is even news worthy? Who cares if the man smokes!

    It’s the USA going up in smoke, I am worried about!

  • buzzlatte

    Obama’s smoking is a metaphor for his arrogance.  

  • CarlaforHillary

    I’m not a smoker, but to me this is a non-isse. I don’t have a problem with people who do have an issue with it, I just am agnostic on this one.  I think if I was the president I would definitely be drinking everyday and smoking stronger stuff than cigarettes……..

  • WhatNow

    I agree, there’s so many problems in the world and people are picking on Obama for smoking?!?!?!. For all we know, the “smoker studies” could be the same as the global warming studies. Made up science.

    If the man wants to smoke, let him smoke. The more time he spends away from health care, the economy, the bails out, etc, the less money the country spends.

  • WhatNow

    oops, that’s suppose to be bailouts not bails out

  • Onofre’s arm

    His arrogance is symbolic of the entire progressive movement.

  • PA Caucasian

    I quit cold turkey years ago when I was a younger lass blessed with industrial strength will power. I just made up my mind to quit, and did so. It got tough about two weeks into it, that’s when the cravings started. But I didn’t give in. I do not know if I could be that willful today.

    Also as I understand it today’s cigarettes are even more addicting due to higher nicotine content or something.

  • jwrjr

    How can smoking possibly be bad for you?  His Majesty Thee Won does it.  Just another example of the credibility the Obama Monarchy brings with it.

  • Docelder

    Other than the smoke ruining historical furnishings, I don’t care what adult people do on their own time. So long as no innocent people are harmed, people should be able to do what they want. But, he should have to go outside, being that the White House is just a rental as far as he is concerned.

  • arabella trefoil

    This is indeed an important issue. Read the link – see how Barry brushes of the reporter who asks him a straight-forward question. Obama implies that it’s OK for him to smoke, but it’s not OK for kids to start smoking.

    And the smoking issue reinforces how narcissitic Obama is. When he wouldn’t release his complete medical records, I guessed right away that there was nothing more shocking in them than the fact that Obama is a nicotine addict. Rather than admit that he’s a slave to tobacco, Obama probably told his staff that he wouldn’t release his medical records.

    Why? Because it’s not a sin that he’s a smoker, but releasing the report would make him a liar. For a long time he represented himself as a former smoker. Back in the day, a Chicago reporter who mentioned seeing Obama smoking a ciggie on the front stoop, got an irate phone call from Obama.

    Obama’s attitude toward smoking also points to his great ambivalence about his race. He didn’t want to be seen as a black guy smoking a Newport. Something about that imagery rankeled.

    Yes, this is an important story, because it goes to the heart of Obama’s lack of character. One wonders what else besides tobacco he may be inhaling.

  • mortuus lark

    Lots of other presidents have smoked in there before so Obama should do it just as comfortably as those others.

  • mortuus lark

    Ridiculous

  • Kathleen Wynne

    Considering Michelle’s chosen to get involved with preventing obessity in young people  because of the numerous health issues that occur as a result, does make obama’s inability to quit smoking relevant in that this is just as unhealthy as eating too much and is the cause for high health care costs. 

    It is indicative of the hypocrisy that surrounds the obama administration in so many other ways which shows us that when it comes to obama “what’s good for thee is not good for me” mentality.  ARROGANT ELITIST.

  • buzzlatte

    Were you looking in a mirror when you typed that, ML?  Because, it certainly is a befitting comment on your posts!

  • Craig Della Penna

    Many years ago I had an old friend, now gone, who was a functional junkie (that’s a whole other story). I was smoking a pack a day (they were 60 cents a pack in those days) and he stopped me as we were walking down the street, saying “Man, you should quit those things, they’ll kill you.”
    “Randy,” I exclaimed, “You’re a heroin addict, how can you talk to me about quitting cigarettes?”
    “Well,” he said, “Heroin is chemically almost identical to naturally occuring serotonin in the brain, so I can take heroin every day of my life and, chemically, it will never hurt me. But nicotine is a poison and it will kill you.”
    I was flabbergasted by his wacko logic but I had to admit that he was right: chemically speaking, nicotine is a poison and heroin isn’t.
    It’s also a Class 5 addictive substance and fantastically hard to give up.
    Personally, I have a lot of empathy for Obama in this instance. I was only able to finally quit when I held my baby daughter in my arms and realized that, if I wanted to live to see her grow up, I had to stop.

  • helenk

    I quit smoking after almost 50 years. I called my doctor for the results of a chest xray. I got the nurse from hell. She told me you have emphasema, there is nothing we can do for it and you do not need oxygen. that was 9 years ago. I found out there is medicine you can take and I manage very well. My method of quitting cost me 79 cents. I bought a 500 pkg of coffee stirrers. Half the habit of smoking is having something to do with your hands. I chewed on the stirrers and held it like a cigarette. I was not easy and sometimes I wish I still smoked to calm my nerves.but I do not want to walk around with a portable oxygen tank. So vanity wins
    As far as backtrack smoking I really do not care.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  • EllenD

    I thought the White House was a no-smoking zone. That would make sense with all the paintings and antiques.
    So where does he do it? I can smell a smoker in a parking lot so everyone there in the WH must know about it.

  • helenk

    http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap100302.html

     I would rather see these clouds than clouds of cigarette smoke.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  • tango

    Also, keep in mind, smoking is associated nowadays with the lower to middle class. It’s also associated with the perception that smokers have lower IQs. Which might be true looking at some studies done on the subject: 

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61M3UQ20100223

    Sure we have some big celebrities who smoke or someone filthy rich but overall, smoking is looked down upon by the elite both on the right and left.  So to do something so middle class doesn’t fit in with Obamas narrative of being a Harvard educated, organic food eating, athletic and brilliant man. It shows weakness and that is certainly not how Obama wants to be seen.

    I want to know about that doctors recommendation he moderate his alchohol consumption. Hmmm, Obama hitting the beer or knocking back a few highballs before bed?  Maybe the times we thought he was high, he was just tipsy drunk.

  • Pat Racimora

    I was thinking about that also, Kathleen.  It seems incongurous somehow.

  • mortuus lark

    CNN not a friend of whales.

    CNN has found Telly to be guilty of criminal homicide and has looked into Telly’s background since he was first captured – that is whale’s kindergarten. They have also found all killer whales to be killers based on background unearthed by CNN.

    CNN not a friend of anyone except the government.

  • sowsear

    My mother and my brothers smoked. They died relatively young. them I regret; BO I don’t give a RsA.

  • sowsear

    My mother and my brothers smoked. They died relatively young. Them I regret; BO I don’t give a RsA.

  • creeper

    FWIW, hubby’s doctor in the pulmonary clinic at Mayo reports that his patients who have quit smoking and drinking tell him that smoking was by far the hardest habit of the two to beat. 

  • Diana L. C.

    This is a sad issue for me.  My younger son is a heavy smoker.  I have never smoked, never felt like smoking, never liked the smell of it when people blew it in my face, etc.  He acquired the habit young as he tried to fit in.  He’s my son with dyscalculia, so he often worried he was “retarded” (the word he used (probably because others said it to him).  He is a bright boy, reads more than anyone else I know, has taught himself many things on his own, works hard, etc., etc.  But…..he has tried and tried to quit and just can’t get it done.

    I admire all you who have.  I keep praying that some day my son will quit.

    So I am not going to whine about O’s smoking, but I would really prefer if he had an honest talk about it to the media and to the country.  I hope he goes after the tobacco industry also–especially in their marketing efforts overseas.

  • Steve_in_KC

    My favorite President, Bill Clinton, smoked cigars in the WH, even in the Oval Office.  I’m sure some people objected, but nobody made an issue of his cigars until Ken Starr.

  • candymarl

    What Now, excellent Freudian slip. I would run with it but I’d probably get banned.

  • candymarl

    The only issue here is Obama keeps insisting he’s quit. I understand the addiction and sympathize. But the lying? It needs to stop.

  • Breeze

    I’m with you, sowsear.

    What REALLY bothers me is the medical report even mentioning

    HIS ALCOHOL INTAKE!

    I cannot remember any president’s medical report making such a statement!!!!

    It’s important to remember that Obama sr. was an alcoholic who had to have his
    legs amputated after a car accident while in his cups and, finally, dieing in the
    next one.  If I am not mistaken, alcoholism runs in families.

    The irony of it is that for the past few weeks rumours have been rampant in DC
    that it was FLOTUS who had a problem with alcohol.  Probably both do, did the
    retiring “entertainement secretary” of the WH not say that she hosted over 300
    parties in the last year? 

    The booze must be flowing freely at these gatherings.

  • Breeze

    It is, that’s why he golfs so much…..

  • arabella trefoil

    tango – That’s it precisely. Lower class people smoke. Go to an affluent neighborhood and observe the people (aka “folks) walking down the street. You will see few if any smokers. Then pick a less affluent neighborhood a couple of miles away and conduct the same observation. You will see a lot more people smoking in less affluent neighborhoods.

    It’s the snobbery that bothers me – elitists don’t smoke. Also, what kind of sense of shame does Obama have? He doesn’t want to be seen as “Another black guy who smokes.” Tell me the man is not troubled about his own race.

  • sowsear

    But the lying? He needs to stop.

  • mortuus lark

    I approve of Obama taking up cigarrettes so that he can understand better his fellow supporters and purpose for his agency which is to help the poor and disinfranchised and lower IQ middle class.

    When Obama smokes he can feel the plight of those who elected him to represent them.

  • mortuus lark

    I approve of Obama taking up cigarrettes so that he can understand better his fellow supporters and purpose for his agency which is to help the poor and disinfranchised and lower IQ middle class. 
     
    When Obama smokes he can feel the plight of those who elected him to represent them.

    Now, comsumption of alcoholic drinks is a different thing. I suppose he should question Hillary if she is drinking too much wine these days and has a driking habit that she can’t stop drinking. Obama should look into Hillary’s health insurance to see if it covers treatment at the Betty Ford Clinic.

  • candymarl

    Too true.

  • mortuus lark

    I approve of Obama taking up cigarrettes so that he can understand better his fellow supporters and purpose for his agency which is to help the poor and disinfranchised and lower IQ middle class.  
      
    When Obama smokes he can feel the plight of those who elected him to represent them. 
     
    Now, comsumption of alcoholic drinks is a different thing. I suppose he should question Hillary if she is drinking too much wine these days and has a driking habit that she can’t stop drinking. Obama should look into Hillary’s health insurance to see if it covers treatment at the Betty Ford Clinic.

    I am against the President being seen drinking alcoholic beverages in public. Not a problem if he drinks in private.

  • sowsear

    I saw a picture of him with Bo, walking down a WH hall and the caption was “going out for a ciggie”.

  • candymarl

    Breeze, the worst part is the media must have been aware of this yet they said nothing.  Many of them have been invited to these parties. WTF is going on here???

    This may explain the seeming dysfunction and tone deafeness of this administration.

    We are so screwed.

  • mortuus lark

    Ridiculous.

  • sowsear

    It seems incongruous that he would allow this information to be circulated, given his past history of hiding his records.

  • don x

    Obama also drinks Bud Light beer.   Does that also make him a poor role model for his kids and the youth of the nation?

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/07/the-audacity-of-hops.html

  • mortuus lark

    I approve of Obama taking up cigarrettes so that he can understand better his fellow supporters and purpose for his agency which is to help the poor and disinfranchised and lower IQ middle class, who according to Arabella, “Lower class people smoke.”  
       
    When Obama smokes he can feel the plight of those who elected him to represent them.  
      
    Now, comsumption of alcoholic drinks is a different thing. I suppose he should question Hillary if she is drinking too much wine these days and has a driking habit that she can’t stop drinking. Obama should look into Hillary’s health insurance to see if it covers treatment at the Betty Ford Clinic. 
     
    I am against the President being seen drinking alcoholic beverages in public. Not a problem if he drinks in private.

  • arabella trefoil

    I’m reading the physician’s report. Look at this item under “Medication” (i.e. what medications does the patient take):

    “Jet lag/time zone management, direct physician perscribed program, occasional medication use.”

    What meds is he taking? People use all different combos of what are basically “go/no go” pills to manage jet lag. Is Obama taking Ambien and or Lunesta in combination with something like Provigil? This is important information to know.

    Speaking of smoke screens, the press is focussing on Obqma’ smoking when the report also mentions his drug use to combat jet lag. This item is buried under an item that talks about Obama’s use of non-steroidal pain meds. Also, the doctor recommended “moderation” of alcohol intake. The “go/no go” pills and the alcohol bother me a lot more than the smoking.

  • Lana

    If he is smoking in the Oval Office and other areas of the White House, imagine the damage he is doing to the historical artifacts there. I have never smoked so have never had to go through the struggle to quit, but I do know many people who have. If they were able to do it, why isn’t That One? How can he quit cocaine and not cigarettes?

  • mortuus lark

    But that way he represents the victims of alcoholic beverages advertising messages, which is to drink until it comes out through the noses. He is a good example for home-bound football, baseball and all other tv viewing sports.

  • sowsear

    No such thing as a mistake…

  • mortuus lark

    But that way he represents the victims of alcoholic beverages advertising messages, which is to drink until it comes out through the noses. He is a good example for home-bound football, baseball and all other tv viewing sports.

    For them he is being an Andrew Joseph Stack.

  • Cindy

    I’ll bet he DOES smoke in the Oval Office and when he blows smoke rings, they’re OVAL  ’cause that’s how cool he is!

    (I’ll bet he smokes Kools, too!)

  • candymarl

    Okay, I said I wouldn’t but here goes.  Hillary is not the President. She does not decide if nuclear war is an option. She does not decide as CIC if our troops go to war.

    IF OBAMA’S, NOT HILLARY’S, DOCTORS ARE CONCERNED WITH HIS ALCOHOL INTAKE THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HILLARY.

    Good grief.

     

  • mortuus lark

    It don’t bother me at all. Those that work for the government, most of them, not all, are very happy campers.

  • mortuus lark

    It don’t bother me at all. Those that work for the government, most of them, not all, are very happy campers. They like bossing everyone else and owning the country and as a side effect of all that addrenaline rush, the pop the pills by the dozens and do themselves with all of those benefits.

    You have to look at it this way: If they work for the government and are killing themselves then that is good for America.

  • mortuus lark

    It don’t bother me at all. Those that work for the government, most of them, not all, are very happy campers. They like bossing everyone else and owning the country and as a side effect of all that addrenaline rush, the pop the pills by the dozens and do themselves with all of those benefits.  
     
    You have to look at it this way: If they work for the government and are killing themselves then that is good for America. Authority has also a down side.

  • Peggy Sue

    I have a niece, a former heroin addict, who told me quitting smoking was harder for her than kicking heroin. 

    Surprised the heck out of me!  Also made me feel a tad better after my first weak-kneed attempts.  But then, one of my sons quit cold turkey.  That gives me the sweats just thinking about it.

    We all have our own personal poisons.  It’s the toxic, political spew we’re all feeding from that worries me more.

    Bad for our future health?  Afraid so.

  • Rich

    Great cartoon! 
    Do I think that he is setting a bad example for our young people? My answer is YES.  Do I think he could turn it into a good example for our young people, again the answer is YES.  If and when he finally stops smoking showing that just because something is difficult, it does not mean it cannot be accomplished. 
    Do I think Obama and the Democrats spending money they do not have and not showing how they are going to pay for things is setting a bad example for our young people, the answer is YES. Now can they turn this into a good example, my answer again is YES.  Once they stop blowing smoke, stop spending money they do not have, and show us how they are going to pay for all that they want to do, this will show our young people and all Americans that just because something is difficult it does not mean it cannot be done. 
    Do I believe he will stop smoking during his term as President or that he and the Democratic party will stop blowing smoke and start acting the ways that set good examples for young people and all of America and the rest of the world? My answer, sadly, is NO.
    Rich

  • oowawa

    Thee One–His divine countenance floating in the clouds like the sun–His head in the clouds–er . . . You mean those aren’t clouds?  Smoke?  Oh, the irony!

  • foxyladi14

    well if he isn’t smoking he is chewing nicodene gum???????????????

  • Cindy

    oowawa- great pics!

    (But where are the mirrors?!)

  • Breeze

    It’s OK, Candymarl.

    I’m with you 100%.  Some people were just born that way, ignorant and
    boorish and a tad more than imbecile.

    Maybe the dead buzzard’s PC will get hit by lightning and he doesn’t have the
    money to replace it,  God willing.

  • Onofre’s arm

    Not too long ago I was at the counter of a convenience store with a big bag of pork rinds and a coke in my hand, and the young lady in line behind me, who had to be half my age, asked rather patronizingly “Do you know how bad those are for you?” I answered “Yes, I do, but the pig suffered a worse fate than I’m likely to.” She looked pissed. The remarkable point of this encounter happened as I was leaving and it was her turn at the counter, and I heard her ask for a pack of Marlboro Longs. This of course caused me to whirl around and give her my best “I spot a hypocrite” look, that she immediately honored with a middle digit salute. 

    People smoking never really bothered me, at least not as much as sanctimonious finger pointers.

  • oowawa

    The mirrors?  The adoring eyes of his 69,000,000 worshipful fans . . .

  • Breeze

    Lite beer for a lightweight.

  • Onofre’s arm

    I don’t think Star was as concerned about the cigars as he was about the humidor. 

  • Peggy Sue

    Whew!  That one in the lower right could creep you out.  Good image for Clash of the Titans release.  Needs a 3-D edge, of course.  Or maybe just a glittery pop up, ala Fazzino. 

    It just gets better and better.   

  • buzzlatte

    Ambien usage would certainly explain Obama’s hallucinations of greatness! ;)

  • Breeze

    No, no, no mirrors.

    Visitors to the WH say that the walls of the place are entirely decorated
    with the Messiah’s HUGE pictures.

  • lauraks

    Having watched my mother die of lung cancer, something I wouldn’t wish on anyone,   I think this is important.I feel Obama shades things , commits sins of omission.If he in fact is smoking and we have no idea how much he smokes ,keep in mind he has smoked since probably his teens.He is the president and the responsibility to take care of himself is owed to himself, his family and the nation by virtue of the leadership position he holds.His thin frame, while laudable , will not protect him from lung cancer.I just find every comment Gibbs makes about Obama , particularly about his habits, off putting. The first lady is clearly out there supporting the health of kids, fine.It is no small matter if he cannot quit smoking clean.The longer one smokes the more dangerous a risk it poses to their health – period.

  • Cindy

    Helenk—I’m glad you got some medication that works.
    I quit smoking and drinking about 22 years ago………I quit cold turkey with both…… but like you say, you need something to do with your hands.
    But mainly, wine and cigs are like old college chums that I never get to see anymore. I miss them alot, sometimes.

  • Hank

    obama loves to smoke and lie…

  • AC

    Smoking prohibited in Government buildings–he goes outdoors.

  • oowawa

    The problem is, what with winning the Nobel Peace Prize and saving the world and stopping the oceans from rising and all, he doesn’t have much time private time to smoke a few ciggies.  In fact, when he has a rare opportunity, he has to multitask:

  • AC

    How do you know he quit cocaine?

  • oowawa

    The problem is, what with winning the Nobel Peace Prize and saving the world and stopping the oceans from rising and all, he doesn’t have much private time to smoke a few ciggies.  In fact, when he has a rare opportunity, he has to multitask:

  • lauraks

    My son has dysgrahia and dyscalculia and while not a smoker because of seeing  his grandmother die from it, he has struggled alot with self esteem and fitting in.He is also  talented in many areas but came home yesterday frustrated he works like a dog in math just to pass while others ace it.These kids are very right brain and that is where all the creativity is.They need alot of love and understanding but the respect mine has from me is huge.I will pray for your son.We are looking into meditation for him to manage stress.I don’t know if that would help your son with smoking cessation.

  • Cindy

     PA Caucasian—I quit cold turkey, too.

    After going through labor for 27 hours and giving birth to a child, I found that quitting cigs was nothing, comparatively speaking! :)

    I heard years ago that Amercian cigarettes are sugar-cured, and European cigs are not; hence, higher instances of lung cancer in US than Europe.  At least that’s what they used to say.

  • AC

    Einstein smoked.

  • oowawa

    “One wonders what else besides tobacco he may be inhaling.”

    Oh Arabella, I’m shocked . . .

  • tango

    Oh but smoking keeps the weight down. So maybe in that young ladies book, being thin with lung cancer from smoking is better than being overweight with high cholesterol from eating fried pork products?

    Oh gosh, my Obot sister is adamant against smoking. Funny, she never let it bother her that BO was doing the exact same behavior only 6 months ago she was calling disgusting and only done by those of weak character!

  • Cindy

    Pat—another great cartoon!
    If he wants to smoke, we can’t stop him….but what happened to his promises and assurances that he’d quit?
    As discussed up-post, it’s his lying that bugs me. If you lie about smoking, you’ll lie about anything. 

  • PUMA left over

    Let him smoke – enjoy every puff – but the one thing I hope is that when he gets lung cancer he is TREATED under the OBAMACARE system and a end-of-life counsel is there to assit him

  • tango

    That’s pretty much the only multi-tasking he’s good at!

  • getfitnow

    Congrats to you, Peggy Sue and all that have beat this habit. I never smoked, thank goodness. It was enough being aflight attendant when smoking was still allowed inflight.

    The thing that bothers me about BO, regarding anything, is his denial and always has to be right. Remember during the campaign he said he had quit–98% of the time. WTF? A yes or no would have done quite well.

  • Cindy

    Diana–I’m so sorry about your son and know that must be an incredible concern for you.

    Yes. You’re so right!…Obama should go after tobacco industry and have a heart-to-heart about it with the nation. Now that would be really serving his country!

  • Lana

    AC, my point exactly!

  • Obama: Dubya 2 Electric Boogaloo

    No. It means he has poor taste in beer selection.

  • buzzlatte

    I’d say the smoking is working FOR the American people, shortening his lifespan should he decide to become a dictator ;)

  • getfitnow

    Thank you, Breeze! Has there ever been a public report on a POTUS that included this “moderation” recommendation?

  • getfitnow

    Isn’t that what Tiger uses?

  • getfitnow

    He needs to stop lying about it!

  • buzzlatte

    Yup!

  • oowawa

    Gee whiz, Candymarl–looks like you’re responding to something that isn’t there any more–something that just flew off, that just disappeared into thin air–something that might have been created and deleted by a minimal postmodern work of art . . .

  • Me

    EXACTLY, Kathleen.  Hypocrisy and arrogance.

  • samb

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf9R0_e-RC4

    Adam Ant- Goody to Shoes
    Obama, don’t drink, don’t smoke, what are you going do? OH YEA SNEAK AROUND 

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Also did they not report his cholesterol level was elevated?
     
    So not only is he smoking he can suffer hardening of the arteries.
    Did we just not have a post on angioplasty recently!
     
    Being he’s so Kool you woulda thought he could of kicked this habit.
     
    I can only imagine how Michelle screeches each time he lights up that ciggy

  • Cindy

    Kathleen–That is an excellent observation.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Obama cholesterol levels have crept up to borderline high and he should alter his diet accordingly, according to a report the White House released after the 90-minute examination at National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda, Md.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=9968960

  • Cindy

    Steve—it seems the press corps was more focused on whether or not Bill C. had inhaled marijuana; at least, that’s how I remember it.
    And do you mean President Ken Starr? (he’s the new prez of Baylor U.)

  • helenk

    cindy
    Thank You. That nurse scared the hell out of me. I remembered an old friend that quit smoking but always carried an unlit cigarette. I knew I could not do that but the stirrers had the same effect. Someone else told me about flavored toothpicks for the same result.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  • Anonymous

    I absolutely agree. Remember Michelle saying that when Obama told her that he wanted to run for president she told him that she would only agree if he quit smoking.  That was just another carefully crafted story to pull the wool over our eyes. Also, when Jake Tapper wrote sometime during the campaign that he suspected that Obama was still smoking, they immediately denied it.  This is just another in the string of lies that mark Obama’s legacy.  BTW can you imagine the uproar if we learned that Sara Palin was smoking given that she has young children.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    LOL oowawa nothing like taking just ONE smoke break!

  • oowawa

    Peggy Sue writes: “For me absolutely because I know if I had his job?  I’d be smoking like a damn chimney.”

  • oowawa

    Of course, nowadays he can afford better equipment:

  • PA Caucasian

    My brother smokes, I’m thinking of getting him those smokeless cigarettes, maybe that will help wean him off.

  • Ferd Berfle

    “Smoking prohibited in Government buildings–he goes outdoors.”

    But That One is above the law. After all, he is Obamacus with residences on Mt. Olympus and the river Styx.

  • oowawa

    I agree with these comments.  It would be better for Thee One to come out of the smoking closet and be the up-front poster-boy for a nationwide anti-smoking campaign:

  • ~~JustMe~~

    he was against it before he was a smoker!

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Well Breeze my ALCOHOL INTAKE  has increased since he came to the Whitehouse! 

  • Hillary or Bust

    I don’t think the president should smoke. Nicotine is a drug, it gives you a mild high, and it also causes all sorts of diseases. Someone in that position of power should be clear-headed and healthy. 

    PS To those of you who are having trouble quitting smoking, you might want to try the new electronic cigarettes that are available. They deliver the nicotine via water vapor flavored like smoke; you will not smell afterwards and you won’t harm your lungs as you would with real smoke.

  • Ex Florida Democrat

    Obama is WEAK.  McCain spent all of those years in a POW camp, and Obama can’t even put down a cigarette…and Americans voted for BOZO to be their leader.

    He’s a used car salesman.  “HOPE and CHANGE” in the showroom…cigarettes and alchohol in the back room. 

  • Boxer Mum 06

    Especially when cancer runs in his family. Isn’t this what his mom died from as well? I would think the family history would be incentive enough to quit. Doesn’t he worry one day he may not be around for his daughters?

  • Boxer Mum 06

    I think the Obama brand would be tarnished if he admitted to being a smoker. It’s a sign of weakness and we all know Obama is not weak :)

  • Ferd Berfle

    Hell, I smoke but that being said, and paraphrasing Groucho Marx, I don’t care if he burns”.

  • My other site

    As a former Democrat, I am furious there were not pictures in the media during the campaigns of Obie with his cigs.  Liberals HATE smokers.

  • creeper

    That picture would be perfect if it were a bag of Cheetos he was holding.

  • creeper

    sowsear, it occurs to me that they may have allowed this info to become public because it was the least of his problems.  Can you say “smokescreen”?

  • Breeze

    Sorry, I really do NOT care if he smokes or not.  Smoking does not affect the mind,
    only the body and does not impair driving a car and other functions.  The result of
    smoking strictly hurts the smoker, especially in this case where the subject uses
    frequent golfing outings to satisfy his habit.  I am sure he does not smoke around
    the kids.  All FLOTUS has to do is trip him and sit on him; he won’t have much
    breath left to smoke and I’m sure this woman would not hesitate to do just that.

    But that he had to be admonished about his drinking bothers me
    BIG TIME and it should be a source of concern for all of us.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Ahhhh it’s Ambien that made tiger into a raging bull? =-O

  • creeper
  • Cindy

    helenk—I played solitaire alot! That actually helped.

  • Diana L. C.

    He’s actually doing o.k. now that he is out of school.  Someday I will encourage him to go back. 

    We had a neuropsycholcogist thest him when he was thirdteen.  The man told me point blank that if he was going to get through school, I would have to quit may job and fight the system all the way.  It was horrible because none of the teachers followed his IEP, they taunted he for being late for class because on those screwed up block schedules he had a hard time figuring out where he should be any day of the week (even teachers would have trouble).  He finally went for a GED.  He passed the writing, reading, social studies, and science tests in a week each with high 80th or in the 90th percentile.  It took him two semesters with some very dedicated women in the GED program helping for him to finally pass the math test.

    As I mentioned on a different thread, the person from the state department of ed who spoke at the GED graduation made sure everyone there should understand that 80 percent of kids with actual high school diplomas could not pass the tests.

    So, I am proud of him.  And, yes, the creative side of this kid makes me jealous.  He taught himself guitar,  He plays in a band for which they compose their own songs.  He holds down a full-time job and has been working up.  He has a live-in girlfriend to whom he hands over all the money so she can manage expenses–it’s something he just can’t figure out.

    I wouldn’t change this kid for the world.  I just hope he can soon figure out how to stop smoking.  (You’d have to live in the small town we were living in when he started to know the pressure he felt.)

  • Cindy

    Rich– Your last paragraph summarizes the problem perfectly.

  • Diana L. C.

    And, lauraks, thanks for the kind words and here’s a hug for your son.  These kids need all the praise we can give them for fighting the fight in this world.  In older societies, where skill with hands and concentration were far more important, would have been the superstars.

  • Cindy

    creeper— I agree. I really don’t think he wants to quit, either.
    He is very used to getting his way, and doing what he wants to do, and smoking is no exception.

  • Diana L. C.

    I have asked my son about these, but he’s got a phobia about drugs, prescribed or otherwise.  He says there is a chemical in those that can be very harmful.  Right?  I’m interested.

  • Breeze

    That’s exactly what I thought too when I first heard about it, creeper.

  • arabella trefoil

    I agree. It’s the fact that he was told to “moderate drinking” and that he is probably using “go/no pills” that concern me the most.

    No wonder he travels so much. Got to get that Ambien and some Provigil to manage the jet lag. Maybe get a few extra pills than are necessarilly needed for those times he needs to mellow out a little or the times he feels his energy lagging.

    Pill head, drinker those are conditions that bother me more than smoker. Prescription drug use and alcohol consumption can affect his judgement.

    Now I will watch marathon meetings such as the health care summit gladly ’cause I know Barry is jonesing for a ciggie. Maybe he picks his nose and plays with his middle finger as an act of displacement. You know, the way some smokers will suck ice cubes when they are in a situation where they want to light up.

  • Hillary or Bust

    I disagree. I have never smoked a cigarette but I tried chewing tobacco once just to try it. I seriously got stoned from a little bit of chew. Nicotine DOES affect the mind…that’s why people take it. It takes the “edge” off. It is a drug that’s why people smoke it!

  • Retired

    I have just pitched a new idea to the tobacco giants:  A new brand of smokes called ‘Bamas.  Ad slogan:  “You be in charge when you light up a ‘Bama!”

  • Ferd Berfle

    “It is a drug that’s why people smoke it!”

    I disagree. It is not a drug at all but an organic compound which has any number of effects on the person using it. A drug implies some sort of medical use. Nicotine has none. People smoke it for many reasons and “taking the edge off” may be but one of them. However, it does not interfere with normal mental functions or physical activity as a “drug” would any more than a cup of coffee would. You cannopt have it both ways.

  • Ferd Berfle

    “It is a drug that’s why people smoke it!” 
     
    I disagree. It is not a drug at all but an organic compound which has any number of effects on the person using it. A drug implies some sort of medical use and nicotine has none. People smoke it for many reasons and “taking the edge off” may be but one of them. However, it does not interfere with normal mental functions or physical activity as a “drug” would. Nicotine is addictive but that is not the criterion for naming something a drug, either. By your definition, oil of cloves could be a drug or even caffeine.

  • Ferd Berfle

    I like Bummers better. If you’re out of smokes or left them conveniently at the store or are smoking OPs, you can always ask for a handout. That One smokes Bummers.

  • Ferd Berfle

    “However, as a role model”

    That One, whether he smokes or not cannot be said to be a role model for anything except cutting corners, talking instead of acting, blaming others instead of admitting fault, and pretending to be something he obviously isn’t.

    Sorry, but even if he didn’t smoke, which isn’t a crime, BTW, he would still fail as any sort of role model. We need to start looking beyond the popular or unpopular and a person’s personal habits and focus on substance. That One smokes–I don’t care. That One is a full-fledged liar and con man–that gets my attention.

  • mortuus lark

    Smoking, drinking, eating out with common folks and Obama is not only an American hero and a President above all other Presidents, but a Presidents that really mimics the people that supported him to the presidency.

    Obama will continue to rise as the most intelligent and clever and most productive President the country has had.

    Like I said before, start carving on that mountain with “more” of a “rush” and Rush stand back and eat your heart out.

  • arabella trefoil

    I think there’s an outdoor collonade near the Oval Office and the Rose Garden. Speculation is that’s Obama’s smoking pavillion.

  • mortuus lark

    The One is the real thing that Americans were waiting for in a President. He really is a new kind of President that mimics the people he represents. An outstanding citizen in the Oval Office. 

  • mortuus lark

    The One is the real thing that Americans were waiting for in a President. He really is a new kind of President that mimics the people he represents. An outstanding citizen in the Oval Office.

    Obama doesn’t lie anymore. What he does is that he is a constant changing and constant assessment of the things that matter to Americans.

  • mortuus lark

    The One is the real thing that Americans were waiting for in a President. He really is a new kind of President that mimics the people he represents. An outstanding citizen in the Oval Office. 
     
    Obama doesn’t lie anymore. What he does is that he is a constantly changing and adapting to new conditions and doing a constant assessment of the things that matter to Americans.

  • Retired

    Lark wrote, “…a Presidents that really mimics the people…”

    Wow, is that ever an insightful comment!  Take a breat, bro, and light up a ‘Bama.

  • Clara

    Barry’s smoking is a weakness.  But what is even worse is the lying and spinning of his habit!  Gibsy keeps saying he’s quit…but he falls off the wagon every now and then.  Maybe not in Alabama, but in my book, that’s not “quit’.   I saw all of this as a former smoker.  If my 76 year old mother could quit just like that, surely Barry has the stuff to do so.

  • Clara

    Mean I say all of this as a former smoker.

  • mortuus lark

    Thank you very much. Insight is my trade.

  • Puma.for.Life

    I quit smoking 30 years go.  I believe anyone who is still smoking over the age of 30 is committing suicide, thus I believe Obama is mentally incompetent and not qualified to be POTUS.

  • Ferd Berfle

    mortuus lark<img src=”http://cdn.js-kit.com/images/icon10-external-url.png”/>
    Smoking, drinking, eating out with common folks and Obama is not only an American hero and a President above all other Presidents, but a Presidents that really mimics the people that supported him to the presidency.  
     
    Obama will continue to rise as the most intelligent and clever and most productive President the country has had. 
     
    Like I said before, start carving on that mountain with “more” of a “rush” and Rush stand back and eat your heart out.
     
     
    ==============================
    Since old Morty lurker likes to delete comments to make the regular’s comments look out of place, I’m going to copy its entire vomitus verbatim and then reply to the cranial minimalist.
     
    Cletus: get a new schtick. You can start by using an old-fashioned dictionary to get definitions for the words you use inappropriately. You can then buy a cheap used college textbook on use of the Queen’s English. Third, you can take a course in Logic 101 at the nearest community college so that your combining of more than two words don’t create a loogical fallacy. Fourth, you can just shut up and save yourself a lot of money and limit the damage to what few brain cells you cuurrently possess and save US the time to respond to your unmitigated hogwash.

  • Clara

    Cigarette smoking can elevate cholesterol just as a poor diet can. 

  • Clara

    Here, here, Cindy.

  • oowawa

    Okay folks, there’s nothing to worry about with Obama’s smoking.  In fact, there’s nothing to worry about, period.  This video will clue you in:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6GmLy8gHpw&feature=PlayList&p=B555959095B35C13&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=36

  • Ferd Berfle

    mortuus lark<img src=”http://cdn.js-kit.com/images/icon10-external-url.png”/>
    The One is the real thing that Americans were waiting for in a President. He really is a new kind of President that mimics the people he represents. An outstanding citizen in the Oval Office.  
      
    Obama doesn’t lie anymore. What he does is that he is a constantly changing and adapting to new conditions and doing a constant assessment of the things that matter to Americans.
     
    =======================
     
    The real thing, huh? Yeah he’s a Coke(head).
     
    New kind of President, huh? Yeah he’s a prodigious liar in lieu of being a merely lying poliitician.
     
    That One doesn’t lie anymore, huh, but constantly changes and adapts. So you prefer a chameleon to an honest leader. Cool, Goob.
     
    Assesses things that matter to Americans, huh? Did he get the list from that silly wife of his?

  • Ferd Berfle

    I’d look at the clip but the 64-bit explorer won’t open it. Oh well. 
    Hell, oowawa, I’m only worried about people that worry about him smoking. This litttle tempest in a teapot doesn’t even get close to the need for asking whether it passes the so-what test. It is a non-issue. He lies out of habit–now that concerns me irrespective of his tobacco consumption.

  • mortuus lark

    Wow, you need to do a new round of exercises to shed the hate for those who post who don’t sound exactly like you do. Lets go:

    How mad are you now? 
      
    Get madder.      
          
    Get madder.      
          
    Rip something off.      
          
    Scratch your chest.      
          
    Slap your face.      
          
    Hit a door with your fists.     
        
    How mad are you now?

  • candymarl

    Amazing how that happens isn’t it? :-P

  • Ferd Berfle

    Collonade. That’s the ticket. I bet it reminds him of those particle-board columns at his coronation. Cheap thrills for a callow, shallow taker.

  • mortuus lark

    Perfect. I love it. That shows exactly what I feel about Obama’s positive future for America. And I support that completely. You should too. You have to. With the way our education system works, it better be like that. Otherwise forget it.

  • Peggy Sue

    Another Twilight Zone moment!  Strange how the construct seems a better fit now than in the past. 

    Or maybe my eyes are better.  Particularly with my contacts in :) .

    Thanks for the giggle, oowawa!

  • Ferd Berfle

    Morty Lurker said:

    mortuus lark<img src=”http://cdn.js-kit.com/images/icon10-external-url.png”/>
    Wow, you need to do a new round of exercises to shed the hate for those who post who don’t sound exactly like you do. Lets go:  
     
    How mad are you now?   
        
    Get madder.        
            
    Get madder.        
            
    Rip something off.        
            
    Scratch your chest.        
            
    Slap your face.        
            
    Hit a door with your fists.       
          
    How mad are you now?
     
    ========================
    You obviously mistake me for one of your fellow bots. I am not angry at all. As a matter of fact, I’m laughing at your sorry attempt at clever comment. It is neither. You are but a 12-year old obamabot with chubby cheeks, cherub-like from being out in the cold shoveling snow and you’re pissed because you had to do it. You’re also pissed because your beanie fits a bit too tight leaving a mark on said cherub cheeks. Of course, the orange cheetoh-dust doesn’t help either. And the last straw occurred when your yellow beanie was eaten by your ugly dog. Sorry you’re having such a bad night little-man bot but you’ll get used to it being so completely gullible as you self-evidently are.
     
    Don’t bother replying because you haven’t the cranial capacity to go any further with me, child.

  • mortuus lark

    Two things that you DETRACTORS of Obama have to swallow now in bucket size pills.

    1. That Obama walked with Senators and Representatives and the press from the WH to the Blair Bldg. Changing Washington like he promised to do. That my friends is real change. Prior to Obama, Presidents ran scared of crossing the street in front of the WH.

    2. That Obama today was dining with common folks in a common diner in Atlanta and having a lot of fun with them. That my friends changes the Presidency and “changes Washington” like he promissed he would do.

    3. By working with Scott Brown and other similar Republicans, Obama is determined to change Washington from the way it operated during the Bush years.

    Obama: Change you can believe in.

  • getfitnow

    As Rev. Wright would say–ridin’ dirty! ;)

  • mortuus lark

    If you don’t do the exercises you will not get rid of the hate that is eating you alive.

    But if you do the exercises, then you will find that others fit just as good as you do and you don’t have to be the bully that hoodlum those that do not sound like you out of their participation in the thread.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Okey Dokey. Does anyone have a butterfly net for you-know-who? I’m afraid his trolley left the tracks about a mile back.

  • buzzlatte

    THAT is what you libtards are looking for?  A lunch buddy?  Sheesh you are way more damaged than previously thought.

    You most likely failed to consider all the security manpower it took to make that  little Obama walk of shame happen – at taxpayer expense!

    Who says he’s working with Scott Brown, individually????  Bullshyt on the bi-partisan crap.  If Obama’s working across the aisle it’s because he’s trying to salvage whatever is left of his dismal and incompetent “career”!

  • AC

    Excellent find oowawa, the Rod Serling soundtrack is also appropriate.

  • AC

    It’s a Gazebo for the Bo Bo.

  • AC

     ”President that mimics the people”
    That’s all he can do is mimic–learned it at the zoo.

  • Breeze

    BREAKING NEWS:

    Charlie Rangel giving up powerful Ways and Means chairmanshipBy Adam Fogle | March 2nd, 2010 | 0 comments Share
    <img src=”http://www.palmettoscoop.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/charlierangel.jpg” title=”charlierangel” alt=”charlierangel”/>House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Rep. Charlie Rangel on Capitol Hill in Washington, Feb. 25, 2010 (AP Photo)
    EMBATTLED DEMOCRAT CHARGED WITH MULTIPLE ETHICS VIOLATIONS

    Embattled Congressional Democrat Charlie Rangel says he will step down as chairman of the powerful House Ways and Means Committee amid a torrent of corruption charges.

    NBC News reported that Rangel, 79, could “give up the gavel” as soon as Tuesday night, just days after an ethics panel accused him of accepting Caribbean trips from a corporation in violation of House rules.

    The Caribbean trip was the least of 20-term Democrat’s ethics problems. More than two years worth of investigations have yielded allegations that Rangel improperly used his office to raise money for a college center named after him and that he failed to pay taxes on rental income from a villa he owns in the Dominican Republic, among other things.

    Republicans had been in the process of rolling out a resolution to remove Rangel as chairman — something that could have gained enough Democrat support to pass.

    The final blow came Tuesday afternoon when Congressman Artur Davis, a member of both the Ways and Means Committee and the Congressional Black Caucus, called on Rangel to “do the right thing and step aside.” Davis was the 14th Democrat to publicly call for Rangel’s resignation.

    Michigan Democratic Rep. Sander Levin is expected to temporarily take over the committee, which has jurisdiction over all taxation, tariffs and other revenue-raising measures, until a permanent replacement is chosen.

    Posted in National News, Top Story |

  • Diana L. C.

    Hilarious video!  Thanks oowawa!

  • oowawa

    Ferd, it’s getting hard to tell who’s serious and who’s just blowing smoke.

  • Hillary or Bust

    A “drug” can be an “organic compound” and nicotine is definitely a drug that affects brain chemistry. It does interfere with the brain and you can read more about this here:

    http://whyquit.com/whyquit/linksaaddiction.html

    People would NOT smoke it if it did not affect their neurotransmitters. 

    You can go research nicotine yourself. Frankly, I am shocked that anyone would deny nicotine being a drug or deny that it affects the brain. 

  • mortuus lark

    I am shocked that anyone would deny nicotine being a drug or deny that it affects the brain.

    Right.

  • Breeze

    MUST READ:

    The writer uses a clever analogy of  that horrible boyfriend your daughter brought home and married despite your warnings.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/03/the_smartest_guys_in_the_room.html

  • Hillary or Bust

    Here’s another article:

    http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/65782/nicotine_the_legal_drug.html

    “According to the National Institute on Drug Abuse, the US Surgeon General revealed nicotine’s addictive properties in his 1989 report. Nicotine works by increasing the levels of dopamine in the body, which has a direct effect on the pleasure center of the brain. In research, nicotine has been found to have similar, although slightly safer and shorter in duration, effects as cocaine, heroin, and marijuana.” 

  • oowawa

    I must rewrite: Ferd, it’s getting hard to tell who’s serious, who’s blowing smoke, who’s being calculatingly deceptive, who’s playing silly games with the blog for amusement, and who’s just friggin’ crazy.

  • Cindy

    Funny, AC!
     i like the moniker ”Bo Bo”

  • mortuus lark

    I am shocked that anyone would deny nicotine being a drug or deny that it affects the brain.  
     
    Right.

    Fantastic article. Thank you.

  • buzzlatte

    I see the voters who still believe in Obama akin to parents who are sitting in court listening to the list of charges levied against their juvenile delinquent child.

    They’re half defiant – thinking their precious one could never be so bad and half embarrassed that they’ve brought such a scourge upon society.

    Yes, it’s embarrassing to know you voted in the one who is worse than GWB.  Humiliating, too.

    Thank goodness not many of us at NQ can claim that momentary lapse in reasoning.

  • Cindy

    oowawa—This picture has given me an idea—-He could hold his head out the door of Air Force One and skywrite messages to his minions below!

    (just so he doesn’t filet us minions)

  • ~~JustMe~~

    =-O    =-O

  • Ex-Democrat

    I “Hope” the Crack-Head burns in hell…smoke away a**hole!

  • TeakWoodKite

    Pat better late to the party than never. You have a real knack for artisic metaphors, I so admire that gift.

    Quiting nicotine is one thing, finding a positive substitute for the need of instant gratication is a skill lacking in many a soul.

    An addictive personality trait has certian unavoidable features. From the Jimmie Swaggert side of the spectrum to the BO permafrost, it is difficult to sell.
    So does BO reallly want to lessen his carbon foot print? He really buys that global warming thing?
    So if a ciggerette burns at;

    Temperature without drawing:
    Side of the lit portion: 400 deg C (or 752 deg F)
    Middle of the lit portion: 580 deg C (or 1112 deg F)

    Temperature during drawing:
    Middle of the lit portion: 700 deg C (or 1292 deg F)

    The above numbers represent the average we obtained by performing several trials and can be considered accurate to within 50 deg C. A standard Fe-CuNi digital thermocouple thermometer was used in all trials.
    then multiply that by even conservative 2004 estimates of
    2004

    5,530 billion  consumed or produced world wide…….

    thats a lot of heat. I wonder how many BTU’s it equals?

  • Peggy Sue

    Ferd:

    Dead Bird likes to play both sides of the fence.  In addition to the snarky Obama comments that seem to indicate all Americans got what they deserved [whether we voted for Barack Obama or not], she supports Sarah Palin’s presidential ambitions, deems Glenn Beck a wise man and considers John Stack, the suicide pilot of Austin, a Hero of Liberty.

    Consistency is not Dead Bird’s mission.  What is?  Go figure.

    Oh, that’s right.  It’s post-modern insight. 

  • TeakWoodKite

    Pat better late to the party than never. You have a real knack for artisic metaphors, I so admire that gift. 
     
    Quiting nicotine is one thing, finding a positive substitute for the need of instant gratication is a skill lacking in many a soul. 
     
    An addictive personality trait has certian unavoidable features. From the Jimmie Swaggert side of the spectrum to the BO permafrost, it is difficult to sell. 
    So does BO reallly want to lessen his carbon foot print? He really buys that global warming thing? 
    So if a ciggerette burns at; 
     
    Temperature without drawing: 
    Side of the lit portion: 400 deg C (or 752 deg F) 
    Middle of the lit portion: 580 deg C (or 1112 deg F) 
     
    Temperature during drawing: 
    Middle of the lit portion: 700 deg C (or 1292 deg F) 
     
    The above numbers represent the average we obtained by performing several trials and can be considered accurate to within 50 deg C. A standard Fe-CuNi digital thermocouple thermometer was used in all trials. 
    then multiply that by even conservative 2004 estimates of 
    2004  
     
    5,530 billion  consumed or produced world wide……. 
     
    thats a lot of heat. I wonder how many BTU’s it equals?

  • Cindy

    Ex-Florida–you have defined him and his administration brilliantly!

    He’s a used car salesman.  “HOPE and CHANGE” in the showroom…cigarettes and alchohol in the back room.

  • TeakWoodKite

    consumed or produced….lol sound familar?

  • mortuus lark

    accurate to within 50 deg C. :)

    Some accuracy!. You might as well have used the finger to measure.

    ROTFLMAO :-D

  • Cindy

    Breeze– Smoking actually DID affect my mind. On days when I had to pace my smoking and couldn’t continually smoke because I was at church or the doctor’s or my daughter’s school, etc. my mind would become so cloudy! It actually affected my ability to think. And the nicotine gum didn’t help that problem all that much.
    So, maybe I was an exceptional case, but I was definitely NOT clearheaded. That was the big difference I noticed once I got through withdrawal.  It was amazing.

  • Cindy

    Retired—I love that!

  • Cindy

    Ferd—good one, too!

  • mortuus lark

    Cindy, you make a great sister. O:-)

  • mortuus lark

    Pat, I like your caricature. Is good.

  • Cindy

    Buzz,
    “Libtards”….that just rolls off the lips! LOL

  • Tricia S

    First how can he try to push a Health Care bill while he himself is running up the bill also what about Michelle trying to stop obesity because it is so dangerous to the health of our young while her husband puffs

  • Cindy

    oowawa—-Thanks!
    Hilarious video but a little scary too!
    Instead of looking for terrorists, maybe we should be searching for giant pea pods…….if ya know what I mean…………….

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Wow who has been taking pics in the Oval office?
    That’s exactly what I see when I think of the Pres working!

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Wow who has been taking pics in the Oval office?  
    That’s exactly what I see when I think of O working

  • Cindy

    teak–I thought about the environmental side of it too..but I don’t have the expertise you do…Thanks!

  • TeakWoodKite

    Expertise in what I do not know,  being that the wind is all I am familar with.

    Still in that context, MO loves her an ashtray mouth.

    @ mort, sad bird, you found the punchline. Accuracy? That’s your beef?

  • Tex-Mex Soup

    God he must smell awful…………cigarette smoke is insanely strong and repugnant.  

    My ex smoked and he just could not kick the habit and the reason was cause he just simply liked to smoke.

  • PortiaElizabeth

    Thank you! I always seem to miss the nonsense and have to scratch my head and wonder what the replies are about.

  • Mark

    Let’s all send obama some cigs.  If he won’t resign maybe he will get cancer.

  • Mark

    Obama is  nothing but smoke and mirrors.

  • DeeLee

    I think that if I was married to her I would be drinking as soon as I woke up.
    When I was (much) younger, we used to have a rating system for girls, one up to ten, but that was the number of doubles it took to make them look good. She (FLOTUS) would be at least 15 in my books, Remember, a drunk never goes home with an ugly girl, but he may wake up with one.

  • Mark

    This whole presidency is going up in smoke.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Obama sucks eggs I think instead of ice cubes.

  • Juliet16

    candymarl,

    Whoa!  It seems as if you assumed that by “FLOTUS who had a problem with alcohol” that it was implied that Hillary Clinton was a drinker. 

    I think you jumped to a wrong conculsion…

    My guess is that they were referring to First Lady BETTY FORD.  Remember Betty Ford? President Gerald Fords’ wife Betty was an alcoholic. She went into rehab and they named a clinic after her?  The Betty Ford Clinic? 

    Feel better now?

  • mortuus lark

    I think that a good portion of the answers and issues of the debate that unfolded here are without a doubt.characterized by racism.

  • mortuus lark

    I think that a lot of the answers and issues of the debate that unfolded here are without a doubt.characterized by racism. A whole lot of people here have racist issues to deal with.

  • mortuus lark

    I think that many of the answers and issues of the debate that unfolded here are without a doubt.characterized by racism. A whole lot of people here have racist issues to deal with.

  • stodghie

    ac normally that is true, but don’t forget he thinks he is just too dang “special” for all that.

  • stodghie

    the affects of alcoholism includes paranomia, grandiosity, and denial. sound familar?

  • glennmcgahee

    Its the secret of being a smoker that may be precarious for oBAMA. Smokers know what its like to be in need of a nicotine fix, especially during a stressful time. I’m sure that during the health care summit, there were times when obama lost his train of thought completely thinking only of when he would be able to get his next fix. If he does indeed smoke outdoors, he’s not in his office alot so that too explains his lack of work accomplished. Then there is the tempers that smokers  experience when in need of nicotine. Its not the smoking, its the secrecy of his smoking, pretending he’s not smoking, that effects us most.

  • FLDemFem

    He has no choice, the health of the president is a subject of public interest and all the results of the annual checkups are made public. It wasn’t Obama that made the results public, it was the physician and he did it because it is mandated that he do so as being in the public interest. I remember reading the results of the annual checkups for most of the presidents in my lifetime, all the way back to JFK. I was out of the country for Eisenhower and Truman’s presidencies.

  • FLDemFem

    Juliet,
    Candy was responding to a post by lark who bashes Hillary at every chance. Then she deletes her posts, or admin does, and it looks like the people answering her are a bit off. No one here thinks Hillary Clinton was a drunk, except lark. You might consider familiarizing yourself with the site before jumping on the regulars for a perceived slight to Hillary Clinton. Most of us support her, and did during the primary. We all think she would have been a better president than Obama. Except lark who blames her for anything and everything.

  • mortuus lark

    Except lark who blames her for anything and everything.

    I blame Pastors, Preachers, and Priest for anything and everything.

    I blame only Hillary Clinton for being a Lame Lame Surrender with a Smile Tonto Secretary of State of the United States and for previously surrendering to Obama and Bill when she allowed them to decide on her fate as a Democrat candidate for President during their meeting at Bill’s headquarters in Harlem.

    Otherwise she is a nice lady.

    Okay, okay.

  • mortuus lark

    Except lark who blames her for anything and everything. 
     
    I blame Pastors, Preachers, and Priest for anything and everything. 
     
    I blame only Hillary Clinton for being a Lame Lame Surrender with a Smile Tonto Secretary of State of the United States and for previously surrendering to Obama and Bill when she allowed them to decide on her fate as a Democrat candidate for President during their meeting at Bill’s headquarters in Harlem. 
     
    Otherwise she is a nice lady. 
     
    Okay, okay.

  • Judy in NC

    I quit cold turkey 4 years ago after 40 years of smoking and wanting to quit.  What motivated me was learning a friend of mine had quit, a friend who I believed was WAY more neurotic than I am.  So my mind set was ‘if she can do it, so can I’.  Frankly, my cravings were NOT awful and the whole thing was not traumatic.   There was a PSA that said “it’s your time to quit” and I think that’s the way it was for me.

    That said, the fact that BO smokes, needs to moderate his alcohol use and uses uppers and downers is unacceptable in our president.  Where the hell is the press?

  • Katmoon

    So true oowawa, and quite a put off.

  • Reddraggon22

    His smoking is an issue because he lies about it, has others lie about it, gets ballistic when it is brought up. It goes straight to his lack of character, his lying in every respect about virtually everything. He is incapable of telling the truth on any subject. That’s because he is an empty pathological narcissist.

    I dont care what smokers do their own health, but I care very much about the historic building in which they have illegally taken up residence. I hope he is not smoking inside and damaging paintings, furniture, drapes, rugs, stinking up the wall paper, etc. They dont belong to him, they belong to all of us. 

    It is ridiculous for him to lie because you can smell a smoker from many feet away. They reek. He is so out of touch with reality and so full of himself that he can’t imagine that he stinks. 

    As for the drinking, I have heard that Michelle has a problem in that department and that he has been on her case on that. All they do is party and have trashy people like themselves over to play. 

  • pat

    I am a smoker my Amreican right as there are coca holics and over eaters same difference to me it all affects your health.But what makes me mad is the huge tax he added on to Roll your own tobacco to pay for childrens health care meant a 15.78 pound of tobacco went up to 56.00 a pound.So we started smoking pipe tobacco at 17.78 and now they caught on and want to add on an admenment that would just add on 24.78 to all pipe tobaccos.Why because we found a way to not pay the high price to smoke by using the pipe tobacco for rolling actually a mix of cigarette and pipe tobacco mixed to safe on the tax.Why should smokers be targeted to pay for Childrens health care.Taxation without representation not right and the sucker smokes himself.Bet he ha no problem paying for it he just lives on our tax dollars.

  • Solara 9

    Ferd–M Lark just disappears (e.g., deletes his messages) when anyone takes him on, but then no one knows what the reponder is talking about.  Only way to keep him on is to copy and paste his message into yours–but who wants to do that?  LOL!

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