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“Progressives” for Ageism

It goes without saying that most of the major bloggers — Markos, Josh Marshall, Digby, and many others — were so blinded in their desire to sink Hillary that they allowed (and even engaged in) unrelenting sexism and race-baiting.

Their behavior during the campaign was so far from being progressive that I’ve concluded that they’re not actually progressives — at least not of the New Deal, progressive government heritage. Indeed, Markos proclaims himself a libertarian Democrat, meaning he’s well-off and politically correct.

Regarding the Silence of the Bloggers while the media performed a misogynistic bloodletting on Hillary, Big Tent Democrat writes:

[Digby] KNOWS why [media bias] was not covered by most of the Left bogs until the ABC debate – for the same reason the Media’s bias, sexism and misogyny was not covered by the blogs – because they loved it when it was against Hillary Clinton. The Left blogs failed in the primaries and it is time they owned up to it and why – when it was smears, sexism and silliness against Clinton, all was well. Look at Keith Olbermann for crissakes. Their complaints about McCain favoritism in the Media, to the extent it exists, now rings hollow. Their credibility had been shot long ago.

Now Digby is endorsing attacks on McCain. Does she want to go after his tax policies? How about Iraq? Is it his abortion stance? No, it’s not about policy. Here’s the plan she endorses:

Why not concentrate on character critiques that have some real grounding in reality? Just to give a few examples:

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McCain is old and gets confused occasionally.
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McCain is running an ugly, smear-based campaign.
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McCain has a legendarily short fuse.
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McCain is annoyingly self-righteous.
*

McCain’s straight talk has evaporated in the face of his need to win evangelical votes.

How to go after McCain and promote a progressive agenda? Ageism. He’s running a “smear-based campaign” (read: he’s racist). Nice coming from a group that allowed (and participated in) Obama’s race-baiting of the Clintons. And please don’t call McCain “annoyingly self-righteous,” while Obama lectures Americans to learn Spanish — a language he does not speak.

The “progressive” bloggers’ desire for power — not a progressive agenda — has turned them into modern day Bolsheviks. There is nothing progressive about race-baiting, sexism, and ageism. The sooner Obama is defeated and these cranks fade away, the better.

PUMAs need to start formulating a vision for a post-Obama Democratic Party, one which I hope is focused on providing opportunities for all Americans regardless of race, sex, or age.

  • nycvoter

    I went to the digby column and some other posts on the anti-Clinton blogs, and it’s amazing how nothing has changed over there. They still see Obama as perfect and the Clintons as evil. One comment actually said, it was against Obama’s nature to go critical, are they kidding me?

    • Obama’s gums look sick

      Now they are blaming Clinton for not dropping out soon enough for the Obama campaign to hve sufficient time fully vett their VP pick.

      Their entire operation makes my skin crawl and that is not a good thing considering how long I have been a loyal Democrat.

      Bush made my skin crawl 24/7 from day one. But this is unusual when I get the exact same reaction from a fellow Dem. Not a good sign.

    • Perry Logan

      Looks like we need to brush up on our deprogramming techniques. Sooner or later, the Obamites will have to return to reality.

  • Danny

    Aug 20, 2008 … Representative Stephanie Tubbs-Jones (D-OH) was found unconscious behind the wheel of a moving car yesterday and is now in the hospital.

    There needs to be a full investigation into how this happened to one of Hilllary’s biggest supporters just before the convention. She would not let Brazile and Dean or Pelosi get away with their neffarious shenanigans to get Obama crowned perhaps?!

    • Five Thirty

      !!!

      • workingclass artist

        I’ve been speculatin on if she is diabetic….Prayin for her….

        • http://BHOtroll mary

          It is a known fact that AFrican-Americans have a propensity to cardiovascular accidents (strokes, aneurysms) and nearly all have high blood pressue. Meditteraneans have thalassemia, AAs seem to have high blood pressure and thyroid-related medical problems. It’s unfortunate but a friend of mine recently passed away in her 30s and she was not even aware she had been suffering from high blood pressure that caused her fatal stroke. Amazing what we could learn to prevent disease by simply looking at our origins…

    • Beth C. Taylor

      Has anyone heard any more about the investigation into the Arkansas Democratic Party Chair? I haven’t. I think there are many questions to be asked there. It has been said that the killer said he had lost his job. When he entered the office, he specifically asked for the Chair. I understand that the Chair of the state party owned a few business. Had this man worked at one of them? Had he worked for the state party? Why else would he specifically ask for the Chair? Usually folks who have a grievance over a job loss look for the people in that business or organization. If he had no direct employment connection to the Chair, why would he seek him out specifically?

    • rw

      And I believe Feinstein of Ca. will not be attending (thought I think voting) the convention since she fell and broke her wrist.

      • Obama’s gums look sick

        Broken ankle. What a nice way to avoid doing the reprehensible: having to make nice and support Obama. Thank you Diane for not adding your benedition on this egregious Democratic Party folly.

    • tzada

      Dianne Feinstein is out as well with a broken ankle.

    • http://mmb silverfox

      hit men have always been with us.

      in the very old days, poison was the weapon of choice. nowadays….murder and mayhem can be manipulated to look quite like “accidents”, “heart attacks”, “suicide” is a big one, and any other mishaps that can be thunk up by the” brains” of the operation.

      Ms Tubb-Jones may or may not be on the receiving end of the obamacoup cretins, but then again……we will never really know.

      however, she is one of the very visible African American women who stood, and stands, steadfastly with Hillary Clinton. Tubbs-Jones is a true patriot of enormous courage and conviction.

      we all know the kind of cretins that obama shills for. and the fancy suits in the dem elite are in collusion way over their heads now.

      i wonder what Tavis Smiley has to say regarding this latest “mishap” concerning Ms Tubbs-Jones?

      i pray that she is ok.

      i feel quite powerless in the face of such nefarious and blatant corruption, and sickened by what is becoming so obvious to so many of us.

      i will never support obamacoup.

      • cappy

        There is no indication whatsoever that foul play is suspected. This kind of stuff does not help anyone.

    • BernieO

      It’s an aneurysm which is not good. The Cleveland Clinic is very reputable and that is their diagnosis.

      She is one of the best spokespersons for the party. Not wimpy like so many. I am really worried about her.

  • roseeriter

    Dkos members are still slamming Hillary also. They are so afraid that she might VP. The UNITY BONER that the progressives tossed at us and taunt us with is bullshit as they want no oldies just the goodies.

    I hope the phony hypocritical nazi-progressive bloggers lose it all. They are a disgusting representative of the Democratic party. They need to start their own 3rd party for young idots. Women in their group beware.

    • candymarl

      Good point. If they want Hillary supporters to unify behind their candidate why wouldn’t they want her as VP?

      They don’t want unity. They want total control.

    • Obama’s gums look sick

      I agree 150% with everything you said.

  • Valerie

    Bud; I agree. The PUMA action is desperately needed AFTER November whether McCain wins or not. First we need to clean up the Dem party and get the effectual dems out who have pretty much given GWB free reign to do whatever (you know, Pelosi, Reid, Kerry and probably Kennedy will not be too active in the Senate now)

    MAJOR housecleaning the DNC – namely Dean and Brazile

    And of course HOLD MEDIA ACCOUNTABLE for all the BS they have fed us for 10 years now. No more huge monopolies of the big corporations’ hold on media. We need to get a handle on the abuses that have gone down – especially in cable news.

    Oh, and of course – Hillary in 2012!!!!!

    PUMA’S new slogan should be: We Aren’t Done Yet!!

    • Obama’s gums look sick

      1. Get rid of proportional delegates – go back to winner take all.
      2. Get rid of caucuses.
      3. Get rid of super-delegates.

      All of the above were failed “reforms”.

      DNC let themselves be mugged by the vicious Obama campaign just as badly as they got burned by the Chicago Seven, decades ago. Nothing was changed by the “reforms”, including insuring another Dem trainwreck.

      Winning the nomination does not ensure winning the election. Superdelgates were supposed to save us from the fringe and all they did was bow down to them. Total failure because reality showed this to be a bankrupt check and balance.

      Winner take all would have Clinton soundly winning a long time ago and the Obama nightmare would have faded into history with no consequences when the real focus is, was and always should be concentrating on the national election and NO placating the extreme fringes of the party.

      • JozefAL

        Let’s take a look at your suggestions and see what we get.
        1. Get rid of proportional delegates – go back to winner take all.

        Um, no. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the proportional system except for the fact that the current system requires too high a threshold for a candidate to receive any delegates. When you have a primary season start off with 8 potentially strong candidates but 2 dropped out after the Iowa caucus on January 3, another dropped out after the New Hampshire primary and a fourth dropped out before the South Carolina primary. By Super Tuesday (February 5), only 3 candidates remained active out of 8. In less than 5 weeks of the primary season, with only 6 states having participated (either with or without the DNC’s approval), 63% of the starting field was gone, without any input from the vast majority of potential Democratic voters (including the powerhouse states of California, New York and Texas). Of the 3 who remained, the race had basically dropped to just 2 real contenders (the 3rd, Gravel, garnered less than 1% of the vote in New Hampshire and barely gathered any votes in any of the other primary states in which his name remained on the ballot). And all of this happened WITH a proportional system. The problem is that most of the states required a minimum of 15% of the vote to be eligible for delegate allotment. That meant that a candidate running with a steady 10-12% in delegate-rich states would be shut out while a 20-25% second-place finisher and a 30-40% first-place finisher would receive more delegates than they actually earned.
        One problem with a “winner-take-all” system is that the big prizes get far more attention, just as they do in the general election (the only “small” states that get any significant attention are purported “battleground” states). The other big problem is “winner-take-all” contests seem to violate the heart of a democratic system (I personally believe the Electoral College should be abolished as well, but that’s another matter).
        Additionally, I don’t recall that the Democrats ever had a winner-take-all system (the Republicans, on the other hand, did, and still do, which has caused many candidates who might routinely come within 5 percentage points of the primary winner/s to have to drop out earlier than they should).

        2. Get rid of caucuses.

        Well, that would likely infringe on the right of the individual states and their political parties to determine the manner of holding elections. As long as the PARTIES are permitted to determine who may and may not participate, the parties can also determine how the contests should be decided. (In point of fact, a party may opt to disallow the people a say. THAT is the system which most frequently ruled the day before the current primary/caucus system, an era in which bigwig politicos made deals in smoke-filled backrooms.) States should be URGED to do away with the caucuses by whatever means (e.g., a caucus state might only be allowed half the delegates of a primary state of the same general population) but each state should be allowed to determine whether it uses a primary or caucus. (I would suggest that NO delegates be announced as “awarded” until the state’s absolute final caucus convention. A candidate can be regarded as the state’s caucus’s presumed winner but until that final convention is held, no delegates are counted by the media or the campaigns.)

        3. Get rid of super-delegates.

        Well, I can’t really fault this argument, especially given the way the supers have failed to do their job the way they were intended. However, a more practical suggestion would be to minimize their power. There are some states with more superdelegates than pledged delegates while some don’t show proper parity.
        According to the 2000 Census, Iowa fits between Connecticut and Mississippi (with some 6 million people separating CT and MS). CT has 60 delegates (48 PDs/12 SDs), IA has 57 (45/12) and MS has 41 (33/8). IA’s population is much closer to MS’s than CT’s. Virginia has nearly 700K more people than Massacusetts, yet MA has more delegates (MA-121, 93/28; VA-101, 83/18). More than 1/3 of Rhode Island’s 33 total delegates are supers; almost 2/3 of DC’s 39 delegates are supers; 28% of MD’s 98 delegates are supers while just 16% of California’s 441 delegates are supers. The disputed Michigan and Florida delegates? Their original counts were 157 for MI (128 PDs/29 SDs) and 211 for FL (185 PDs/26 SDs). Why did Michigan get more SDs than Florida given Florida’s much larger population? To a degree, the supers, when they’re doing their job correctly, would help bring more consensus to the convention by helping to nominate a candidate who (if he/she hadn’t won a “knockout” in the primaries) would be more likely to draw in the undecided vote in November by being more centrist than the usual “extreme” primary candidates. Of course, since the supers were introduced, they’ve never really been as vital to the nomination process as this year.

  • lizpolaris

    The Digby link which you say points to her ageist bullet points doesn’t work. Not sure if that means it’s been deleted or was never valid in the first place. Without it, your diary complains of behavior not seen on her website. At least, not seen right now.

    • Bud White

      Thanks for the heads up. It should work now.

      • lizpolaris

        Yep, it’s there for all the world to see now.

        It’s been just tragic to see the kool-aid fog the minds of some previously good people. Sickening.

    • Obama’s gums look sick

      Damn, I can’t with with the Obamaniacs. I am a woman and I am old. No wonder they make my skin crawl. Hating women and old people is not my idea of a new America.

      • Ellen D.

        And there are a LOT of us old women because we generally outlive men. I hope the others feel as angry as I do as ageism and sexism runs rampant in this campaign. DNC – feel afraid. Feel very afraid.

        • http://BHOtroll mary

          Women’s power is best expressed through their VOTE.

          Since everything seems to be ‘above Obamarama’s pay grade’, it is incumbent on women to find Solutions for problems. A THIRD PARTY, the PUMA Party is overdue!

          Obambi is down 8 points with women this month! Pumas are roaring…

  • harvey

    The European Socialists also call themselves “The Progressive Parties”. Markos and his KOS most definately is/are of the Progressive Parties (DSA)which also Howard Dean enjoys speaking for from the podium in Europe.

  • http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Medusa

    Bozo and his mentally bankrupt boys will say anything. They used ageism against Hillary and her supporters and they use it against McCain.

    Shame on you, Barack Obama.

  • I Will Remember in November

    Bud you NAILED IT!

    Oh what will the democratic party and the “progressive” kool kidz blogosphere look like after the November election? Picture a hot dog that was cooked in a microwave for 5 minutes….it will not be pretty.

    PUMA!

  • William L. Donlon

    The “Left Wing Klan” needs to be purged from the Democratic Party!

    The Left Wing Klan Wizard, Keith Olbermann needs to be taken down off his burning cross and thrown on the trash heap of infamy with the rest of the failed demigods.

    Democrats should not tolerate these hate mongers. We should debate issues and Policies the way Hillary did.

    “Ass Kicking Season” begins the day after Election Day! That’s the day we start the Purge and “Take Our Party Back”. The bigger the defeat the deeper the purge.

  • bmc

    The so-called “progressive” blogger-boys are an insult to progressives everywhere, if you ask me. Let’s not forget Todd Beeton, that twit of all twits at mydd, who thinks if a commenter reads Powerline, they should be banned from mydd. Now, THAT’s Bolshevik.

    They don’t call ‘em Kossacks for nothing.

    A commenter at Campaign Diaries was actually defending Obama/Soetoro’s implosion in the polls by saying that he had to take a vacation for a week because he was “tired” and because of the “toll the campaign had taken” on him!

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    I can’t tell if the commenter was just so stupid he didn’t see the RICH IRONY of that argument, or if the commenter was being snarky. I honestly suspect it was a sincere but supremely stupid iteration of bot thinking!

    John McCain is 71 years old, yet he didn’t feel the need to go to Hawaii or anywhere else for a full week of dilettantist body-surfing and golf. Moreover, if Barry Soetoro can’t handle a 16-month campaign, how on earth would he be able to deal with 4 years of being President, which, I’d like to remind these morons, means he NEVER gets fully away from his responsibilities.

    Barry Soetoro is a DILETTANTE. The American people deserve better. I hope they demand it, because I don’t want to be forced to suffer their stupidity for another 4-8 years.

    • s. hall

      Beth C Taylor — It was like this story just died. Check the Arkansas Democrat Gazette–they might have some updates. I heard a Hillary delegate was run over by a car. Now Tubbs-Jones OMG. Tavis Smiley and his mom were threatened. If its this bad and Obama isn’t even the nominee what are they going to do to force us to vote for him? Larry said yesterday that Obama is going to hire his own people to get out the vote instead of using Democratic Party volunteers. I don’t like this.

  • Celia

    Left bloggers, Markos, Digby, aren’t progressives. When someone goes against his/er “enemy” ruthless well maybe this is not very correct but could be progressive.But it is NOT progressive to use discrimination to go against your enemy.That is NOT progressive.

    • s. hall

      celia — Liberal blogs are the ones who sold us Howard Dean as DNC Chair–those so-called liberal blogs. Then there’s the Huff Puff — Ariana has her own agenda. She changes political parties like a snake changes his skin.

      • Ellen D.

        Arianna also has perfect judgement in men.

        • BlueTopaz

          LOL!

  • Peggy Sue

    Another good column, Bud. I’m on the page with you. Pretty much sums up how I feel, too. It’s not simply Obama. I don’t trust the Dem leadership anymore, period. They’ve lost my trust and they’ve certainly lost my respect.

    • s. hall

      peggy sue — The Democratic Party leadership gave the party to Obama. They allowed him to have their donor list and now they’re broke. Obama is in charge of the Democratic Party. They couldn’t be that dumb — they had to have an agenda. No wonder they don’t need their base — they have new voting machines which can give them the results they want even if nobody votes. Then maybe there won’t be anymore elections because Obama believes that too many elections are confusing to people. Where is the media? They will concentrate on the new missing blond. After all real news is so 20th century.

    • Obama’s gums look sick

      Agree, the issues go well beyond Obama and Clinton. It is about the wholly undemocratic process supported by this current Democratic Party.

      Who would have guessed they became more evil than the Republicans who at least are now getting saved by John McCain. What a twist of events.

  • tzada

    “Our job in this election is not just ‘win,’ although I’m a big believer in winning,” Obama said during the rally. “I don’t intend to lose this election. John McCain doesn’t know what he’s up against.”

    Oh I imagine John McCain and millions of others do as well. Like that man from Israel said. “We know who you are and who your friends are.”

    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080820/D92LN0D00.html

    OT Carter, Kerry, Gore part of DNC lineup
    Heavy hitters among the many scheduled to take the podium
    By Sara Burnett, Rocky Mountain News

    http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/aug/19/gore-appear-invesco-field-during-dnc/

  • s. hall

    tzada — its Wednesday time for Obama to go for the jugular. By Friday he will be crying racism once again and on Sunday he will be God. Tiresome lil devil isn’t he.

  • http://IthinkIfeel... Tricia Spiegel

    Older voters VOTE. You can count on that. Ageism will not play well in the 60 plus crowd.

    And, oh, there are a LOT of them still running around.

  • http://N/A breeze

    Re: AGE

    I turned 71-years-old this past July.

    No, I’m am not as attractive as I was, nor am I fast
    on my feet anymore.

    But, as for my mental capabilities, I certainly would
    NOT want to roll back time. I have never been as sharp and mentally fast in my whole life as I am now.
    Not only have I accumulated more knowledge, I have also endeavoured to learn from my life experiences!

    Being older also gives me much more self-confidence
    than I have ever had before. I believe that they call it GRAVITAS. But that can only be really pro-
    jected if one really feels it….

    As for that troll called UMMM and his really nasty remarks about age – I read them way too late to re-
    spond…..

    Would I love to have him face to face and have him
    say what he says about McCain to ME!!!

    • Obama’s gums look sick

      McCain comes across as a far better “Daddy” figure to the rootless young people who are looking for something they cannot define in their lives today. And that more likely than not is their missing Daddy – McCain is wise and affable, just the sort of father figure America sorely needs.

      Obama is just plain scary. He articulated the need and McCain is the one we have been waiting for to fill that need.

  • steveeboy

    *
    McCain is old and gets confused occasionally.
    *

    He is old and he does get confused. He doesn’t know a shi’a from a sunni, he thinks iraq borders pakistan, he thinks czechoslovakia still exists, etc.

    the last thing we need right now is someone old like reagan who will be surrounded by a bunch of right-wing neocons and assorted kooks and crazies free to run their own agendas because the president is old and tired and hasn’t had a new idea since 1972.

    McCain is running an ugly, smear-based campaign.
    *

    He is running a smear campaign. he claims to be the “american president for americans” he says that if you are against the iraq war it is because you want to get elected, he says that obama is just running for president–when he is too! He has all sorts of staffers that were down with the rovian strategies and will claim that dems are not patriotic.

    McCain has a legendarily short fuse.

    He called his wife a “trollop cunt” in public and their are numerous stories of him losing his temper and yelling at people. His first response to every crisis is war–like the recent mess in georgia–and he still thinks the US could have beat the vietnamese if only they hadn’t fought with one hand tied behind their backs.
    *

    McCain is annoyingly self-righteous.

    Whenever he is questioned on anything he trots out his POW experience and then denies that he uses his POW experience as a crutch. Of course, he refused to use his POW experience when it most mattered–during the torture debate. he talks about the surge all day long yet there wouldn’t have been a need for the surge if he hadn’t been such a pimp/warmonger for the invasion and occupation of iraq.
    *

    McCain’s straight talk has evaporated in the face of his need to win evangelical votes.

    McCain lost his maverick status years ago. He went from calling the religious right “agents of intolerance” to grovelling for their votes. He has flip flopped on tons of issues and has pandered to the right wing base of the GOP. he went to bush, a man who smeared him in the most vicious manner possible–with REAL racism–and gave him a big sloppy hug.

    If you people weren’t just a bunch of sore loser clinton backers and GOP rat fuckers you wouldn’t spend so much time publishing such delusional drivel.

    The fact that you now support and promote the idea that obama is wiping out opponents like tubbs-jones demonstrates that you are a bunch of kooks, no different form the right-wing nuts that used to publish the clinton death list in the 1990s.

    as far as “bolsheviks” go, the most bolshevik thing I have heard lately are the plans of the clinton dead enders to vote for mccain or third party so that things in the country get worse so that hillary can be the saviour in 2012.

    That is straight up commie garbage.

    • Obama’s gums look sick

      Tee, hee. Is this the best you have? Those dogs don’t hunt anymore. You need to ……. change ….. your attacks and your thinking processes.

      We old people have …deaf ears.

    • http://noratings.blogspot.com/ Bud White

      “He is old and he does get confused”

      57 states, anyone?

      • Ellen D.

        He is old and he does get confused”

        How about Israel is Israel’s best friend.

        • cathnealon

          “old and confused”
          uncle who liberated Auschwitz

    • DAB

      Gee, it was Obama who looked old and tired at Saddleback. McCain was smokin…..

    • http://firefox AnnieCarmel

      Time to get back to the politburo meeting now, trollie.

  • WMCB

    stevieboy, one thing about us old farts is that we have seen and dismissed and rolled right past WAY more tantrums than you’ve ever even thought to throw. So your foot-stamping tirade pretty much just makes us laugh.

  • Sassy

    Steveeboy,
    Aren’t you due back in class?
    Your kindergarten teacher will give you “time out”!!!!

  • roseeriter

    Prepare for phony press releases for Obama (because these supporters are not happy with Obama and his campaign at the moment.)

    This is funny. The progressives have to PROP Obama up too.
    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/20/113037/934/497/571051

    So, in interests of DOING something instead of just complaining about it, Slink and I are launching a new project: creating our own unofficial press releases and talking points (changed from earlier)

    • Ellen D.

      Like a lot of people I was part of the orange Satan back in 2004 to 2006. I recently glanced at it again. I don’t recognize any of the names and the content is completely loony.

      It’s like going back to a small town you lived in once and finding it now populated by crazies.

  • NoTrollZone

    Short fuse? annoyingly self-righteous? disoriented at times? frankly, sounds like Obama. Digby sounds like a fool. Sorry, I’ll be more clear. Obama does have a short fuse, is a self-righteous ass and has no idea how many states are in the union, whether Canada has a president or a prime minister, or his ass from his elbow (uh, uh, uh, uh, uh). And Digby is a fool.

    • DAB

      He’s a whiner too. His attacks on McCain as a cheater were pathetic. And he repeatedly asks, Why Are They Talking About Me? My advice: Grow Up — This is the Big Leagues and your act has gotten OLD!

    • http://firefox AnnieCarmel

      Yep, Grampa, having the benefit of life experience has found Barry’s glass jaw and it is such fun every time they hit him again…as well as watching him get all prickly in response. Oh, how he hates it when people don’t curtsy.

  • http://www.halturnershow.com/ HalForHillary

    The so-called “Net Roots” are to blame for the Obama fiasco. Everyone who supported Daily Kos, MyDD , MoveOn and so on needs to double their efforts and donate an equivalent amount to John McCain or to reduce Hillary’s debt.

    I’m a member of PUMA and donated a total of $1,000 so far. Times are hard but will be even harder if we allow the creature from Chicago to take over America.

    Voting for Barack Obama is like voting for Mugabe for US President!

    Hal Turner.
    PUMA08

  • http://www.halturnershow.com/ HalForHillary

    Check out more coverage of this story on conservative blogs http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2064988/posts

    • http://N/A breeze

      Ohio station: Tubbs Jones may be taken off life support
      By Jared Allen
      Posted: 08/20/08 12:41 PM [ET]
      After suffering a massive aneurysm while behind the wheel Tuesday night in Cleveland, Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones (D-Ohio) is in grave condition and may be taken off of life support as early as this afternoon, according to WOIO in Cleveland.

      Tubbs Jones was “for all intents and purposes dead when they brought her into the hospital” Tuesday night, the station reported in a breaking news update that interrupted regular morning programming.

      The station, reporting from outside Huron Hospital in East Cleveland, where Tubbs Jones was brought Tuesday night, said her condition was “grave.” The report also indicated that life support could be “withdrawn sometime [Wednesday] afternoon.”

      Tubbs Jones’s office released a statement earlier Wednesday saying the congresswoman had suffered an aneurysm and described her condition as stable.Her office could not be reached to confirm WOIO reports that her life is in immediate jeopardy

      Joyce Persaud, a spokeswoman for Huron Hospital, said she could not comment on Tubbs Jones’ condition or confirm reports about her condition, but said that she expected the hospital to release a statement sometime this afternoon.

  • standard

    Kos et al are in it for the dough.
    “Liberal Blog and Sock Puppets for hire”.
    “We influence our gullible youth to suit your needs”.

    I’ve seen diaries that go completely against the progressive grain.
    They were beating up on Dan Abrams after he briefly became GM at MSNBC. (When Abrams came in, everyone down to Tucker Carlson was leaning liberal. Even Scarborough. It was amazing.) I don’t like Abrams because he was in the Clinton camp, but turned and followed Matthews and Olbermann. But before the primaries, he did a fine job which is a reason he was ousted.
    Our sleazy blog operations really do need to be exposed.

  • Tattie

    I’d say given all the drugs, booze and cigaretts Obama has taken and smoked, his brain is the same age as McCain or maybe worst. Most of Obama’s comments sound mental, at least McCain sounds like a grown up

  • http://firefox AnnieCarmel

    I have no doubt that a lot of the anger previously seen in Mac was from PTS from his POW torture. It does speak well for his growth as a human being that he exhibits none of that in recent events. Even when baited, he has stayed cool and collected. Quite a feat when up against a passive aggressive personality such as BS/BO. This is also one of the benefits of life experience…not so easy for young knownothings to push your buttons…you only consider the source and stand firm.

    Indeed, he is showing how smart and organized he is with the planning of campaign monies, etc.

  • http://firefox AnnieCarmel

    New BO teevee campaign ad ends with Barack Obama, President. There we go again…the best they’ve got is “act as if.”

  • Pink Panther

    Discrimination based on age is as bad as discrimination based on race, gender, religion, etc. Individuals belittling someone based on stereotypes or attributes are bigots and ignorant.

    Traditional Democrat Party values believe in equality for all.

    • http://noratings.blogspot.com/ Bud White

      You couldn’t be more right

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