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CNN: “Polls show bad news for Obama”

Only days before the beginning of the Democratic National Convention, CNN announced today the results of a poll showing Barack Obama’s lead over John McCain is rapidly shrinking :

In what could be an ominous sign for Barack Obama just days before he is formally named the Democratic presidential nominee, a new CNN poll of polls out Tuesday shows the Illinois senator’s lead over John McCain has been cut in half in recent days.

American voters are becoming increasingly worried about Obama’s complete lack of experience, according to CNN. Political ads released by the McCain campaign are pointing out the dangers of Obama’s inexperience. In spite of the hype generated by the Obama campaign, his incompetent and milquetoast response to the Russian invasion of Georgia highlights the danger that an Obama presidency would bring:

The latest poll results come amid increased attacks from McCain on Obama’s readiness to be commander-in-chief and the re-emergence of national security worries among voters in the wake of the Georgia crisis.

The CNN poll is only one among many that demonstrates Obama’s falling numbers. Other recent polls show that even though John McCain is considered a weak Republican candidate, Americans feel more confident about McCain’s leadership:

A Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll out Tuesday evening was the latest national survey to indicate Obama’s lead is dwindling, putting the Illinois senator ahead of McCain by only 2 points, well within the poll’s margin of error. The CNN Poll of polls also includes new surveys from Quinnipiac and Gallup.

While Obama is hoping that the Democratic Convention (which is already gaining the reputation of being “more party than politics”), will give him a big boost, some anti-Obama Dems are encouraged that McCain is considering a pro-choice VP. This comes as a relief for even some Obama supporters as the Democratic party is backtracking in its support of abortion rights. According to ABC News:

The Democratic Party is planning a convention designed to soften the edges on the party’s support for abortion rights, with a revamped platform and a speaking lineup that reinforces efforts to broaden Democrats’ appeal on the hot-button issue.

We are all now familiar with Backtrack Obama’s selling-out of key Democratic issues, including FISA, abortion rights, public financing, et al, and we have no doubt that Obama will go to any length to adapt his persona in the pursuit of power and fame. Obama is a product and his advertising campaign is funded by donations to the Democratic party. And the newest advertising hype in this sells campaign is that of Obama’s choice of a VP candidate. Why is this non-issue receiving so much media attention? According toABC, Obama’s campaign is using the VP announcement to distract attention from the Clintons, from PUMA, from The Denver Group, from JSND and from the many others who are protesting the hijacking of our party:

…a late-in-the-week rollout {of the VP} would have another benefit…It could help overshadow the other dominant story heading into Denver, which is the long-running drama over how Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton and her husband, former president Bill Clinton, and Clinton’s supporters will handle themselves during the week.

Let’s not let them down! GO PUMA!!!!

  • standard

    Good work Uncle Ted, little Caroline, Kerry and Dean.

  • DAB

    An even larger difference is found in the latest Reuters/Zogby poll where McCain has opened up a 5 point lead.

    http://www.zogby.com/

    This poll was taken after the Georgia invasion but before Saddleback and is a dramatic reversal from their July survey which had Obama up by 7 points.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal Paul F. Villarreal

    He’s down 5 in new Reuters/Zogby national monthly poll:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUKN1948672420080820?sp=true

    It’s over! The Obama fraud bubble is gone.

    DELEGATES, DO YOUR JOBS!

  • http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/ NotYoursweetie

    Am I paranoid, but too many freak accidents to Clinton SDs?
    http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/08/20/how-to-control-the-nomination-vote/

  • http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

    When you burn a steak, no amount of Heinz Ketchup will make it taste better!

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal Paul F. Villarreal

    Woo-hoo!

  • Dora Ratquila

    I absolutely have no sympathies for the current Democratic Party leadership. They had a woman who was ready to be POTUS yet they selected double BS (that’s bullsh_tting Barack Soetoro)!

    B.O.W.L.* Big Time in November (08)
    *Barack Obama Will Lose
    HRC – 45th POTUS (2012)

  • usaproud

    GO JOHN..GO JOHN…GO JOHN….BYE BYE OBAMA

  • Steve1

    Barry Soetoro-Toast!

  • Isolde

    Huge. Some one asked me yesterday why Obama was sliding. I said “People don’t like him”. Simple answer to a simple question.

  • http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/ NotYoursweetie

    Yup.Mostly his base left him… oh, noes!

  • wodiej

    just a slight correction, the post should say before Obama is “crowned” the Democratic nominee.

    g’night Obama, and take your hateful wife, preacher and friends w you…..

  • wodiej

    I think Obama is going to come crashing down and very hard. They better get those support groups ready for all the Obamamites.

  • roseeriter

    Destroy his PUBLIC IMAGE and he has nothing left.

    Mock, mock, mock him and he will crumble.

  • fred

    Breaking New Polls:
    John McCain takes substancial lead is up by 5%
    Democrats chose the weakest candidate AGAIN
    http://countusout.wordpress.com/

  • democracyfirst

    The Obama candidacy has been cultish but also a mob mentality – everyone jumping on the bus bandwagon.

    All the mob, including the DNC, Pelosi, Dean, the trolls, and even the non-political voters have been lying and covering up for him. As more and more comes out, some things possibly illegal, I think they are beginning to wake up to the fact that they are implicating themselves in the cover-ups.

    Hopefully more and more will want to jump off the bus before it crashes and takes them all down with it.

  • workingclass artist

    Hillbuzz has posted Michael Moore’s open letter to Princess Caroline to be Barry’s VP…..chuckle….OH BROTHER ! ( eye roll )
    Good Post Medusa. NPR talkin about it too and analysts are tryin to downplay it…..
    ” It’s going to be an interesting election…” – Bill Clinton. 2008
    No shit Bill….Happy Birthday to the master of understatement….chuckle….

  • Obama is a bum

    Obama will get a big boost from the convention and it should be a big charade — no doubt they will have people fainting in the audience and they will make sure the cameras are on them. Obama’s campaign in my view has been a second rate kiddie campaign.

    I expect Obama to roll out Powell for an endorsement perhaps during the Republican convention to divert attention from it. Since most of the black Republicans are voting for Obama I expect them to roll out one per week for an endorsement. J.C. Watts may be another guy that may come out in support of Obama.

  • Susan

    haha – I think you may be onto something.

    I used to watch WKRP back in the 80s(?), and Dr. Johnny Fever once said that “when people are out to get you, being paranoid is only good thinking”.

  • workingclass artist

    Karma Dominoes swings either way…..But I wouldn’t be surprised of Barry and his gang o’ fascists might be giving providence a nudge….get my drift ?

  • LuigiDaMan

    The feeling on the ground here in Cleveland is that this is probably a DUI.

  • fred

    Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones Rushed To Hospital
    please pray for her
    http://www.newsnet5.com/politics/17240409/detail.html

  • Lil’ Mike

    Remember how the Clintons were “racist” when they said that Obama couldn’t win? Thou shalt not speak the truth in Obamaland.

  • roseeriter

    There was a young ladybot on cspan who works for some newspaper, and travels with Obama on some of his stumps, and someone called and said something about Hillary voters. She smugly said in a snotty cool voice- well, ‘they’ll come around. They have no place else to go’ OH REALLY?? Watch us.

    NOBAMA

  • Steve1

    SDs “Get some balls!” Clinton 08. If not, McCain.
    Clinton, 2012!

  • LuigiDaMan

    I would like to know something that has been bugging me all season: Why did the Dem leadership push someone who is going to lose, probably big time? I mean, is committing suicide all that much fun? Or is Dean, Brazile, Pelosi, et al, simply nuts?

  • workingclass artist

    After the convention the rest of the Christian Campers will go back to camp so Rove can give them their extra JEZUS points….MISSION ACCOMPLISHED….TROLLS HAVE GONE BACK HOME TO JEEEZUS….aaaand only a few GAZA TROLLS are left….

    Barry is gonna wonder what the hell happened to all his college kids and Commissar Donna Brazeal is gonna learn that 13% is…..13%

  • workingclass artist

    Well I like her…..More info please if you’re from Cleveland….thanks

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    Indeed.

    The nation has seen him, stacked up in an attractive, quite compelling display, put him in their shopping cart, perambulated around the store blithely listening to the peppy muzak, but now that it’s time to check out and actually BUY…he’s a “Naaaaah, I don’t really WANT this” product.

    And so we see him, discarded, a bit shopworn, forlorn and abandoned near the check out counter, but no where near where we picked him up in the first place.

    Overeager, presumptuous bastard. A resume as thin as gossamer, and he actually thought that a three word mantra, a pretty smile, and a dash of “ethnicity” coupled with a hearty dollop of GUILT would propel him to victory.

    He could have had it all–if he’d only waited, he could have been a part of a sixteen year juggernaut, and actually had eight years of fame, respect and the good life to prep for the top job. Now, his legacy is more likely to be as the bastard who shattered what should have been the “National Majority” Democratic Party into three sharply sharded pieces.

    Jerk!

  • Obama is a bum

    Not only is Obama arrogant, all of his friends are jerks as is his wife. Obama has nothing to offer, I have been saying that for over 6 months.

  • Kevin

    I just read it.
    The man is clearly insane.
    Nothing against caroline, but she is even less qualified that BHO. Experience does matter.

  • beebop

    I am “here in Cleveland” and there is no such talk …

  • workingclass artist

    Does Stephanie Tubbs Jones have diabetes ? This can often be mistaken for DUI by cops if they are brittle and goin into shock….I’m just sayin’

  • Peggy Sue

    Wow! When I read about the shift in the Catholic vote, I knew the slide was in. And the swing states have started to shift in McCain’s direction, too.

    Wonder how the trolls will spin these numbers!

  • wodiej

    well said…I love the shopping analogy, isn’t that the truth! I’ve done it myself.

  • Obama is a bum

    Had McCain taken a 10 point lead prior to the convention the SDs would have been rattled and dumped Obama in favor of Clinton.

  • workingclass artist

    thanks Bee….I’m a big fan of hers and prayin for her health and safety…

  • beebop

    From the online version of the Cleveland Plain Dealer ….

    Stephanie Tubbs Jones hospitalized
    Posted by The Associated Press August 20, 2008 07:20AM
    Categories: Breaking News

    Thomas Ondrey / The Plain Dealer file
    Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones appears with Sen. Hillary Clinton during one of Clinton’s visits to Cleveland in 2007.
    EAST CLEVELAND — A hospital spokeswoman says U.S. Rep.
    Stephanie Tubbs Jones has been admitted to Huron Road Hospital.

    Hospital spokeswoman Joyce Persuad says Tubbs Jones
    was hospitalized on Tuesday. She says family members have asked that no
    other information on the five-term Cleveland Democrat be made public.

    A telephone message The Associated Press left for an aide to the
    congresswoman Tuesday night was not immediately returned. A message also
    was left for a Cleveland police spokesman.

    The 58-year-old Tubbs Jones became the first black woman to represent
    Ohio in Congress when she was elected in 1998.

    Tubbs Jones is set to be a superdelegate at next week’s Democratic
    National Convention in Denver. One of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s
    biggest boosters during the primaries, she threw her support to Barack
    Obama in June.

    Nothing bad happened to Congresswoman Tubbs Jones until she backed Barry! The only people saying DUI are the idiots leaving inappropriate and snarky comments after the article!

  • Kevin

    But it will make John Kerry a little bit richer

    snark

  • Shiloh

    I said back in June I didn’t think Obama would get 100 electoral votes and I was met with talk of my aluminum foil hat. I still don’t think he will get 100 electoral votes.

  • http://blog.changeandexperience.com/2008/08/john-mccain-has-5-point-national-lead.html Matthew

    Obama just suffered a 12 point drop in a Zogby/Reuters Poll. :D

    McCain is ahead according to that poll by 5 points.

    Mirrored Article

  • beebop

    Luigi is one of those simple minded people who repeats the worst of what he thinks he heard! He probably works for Andrea Bitchell! :)

  • Shiloh

    Luigi, The answer is that the dem leadership didn’t really push him they just jumped on board. They are really not that politically savvy. Remember, they came within a whisker of nominating crazy Howard Dean last time.

  • HARP

    They should use the theme song for M*A*S*H …Suicide is painless.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1wztVx2a6g&feature=related

  • Kevin

    I would like to see him pull a Mondale/McGovern

  • Obama is a bum

    The media chose Obama as well and if Obama can’t win with all of the free media and all of the money he has then the DNC and the media will look like idiots.

  • workingclass artist

    Given the collective EGOES RUN AMOK…I hope that if Barry has his way….then Let’s see the epic unfold to it’s Utter and logical conclusion of STUPIDITY……OBAMASOETERO/KENNEDY 08……YEAH !

  • beebop

    I have absolutely NO INTENTION of watching any of the television coverage. That should hurt the ratings. I intend to make sure that my television is NEVER on the majors during the running of America’s Idle.

  • HARP

    I noted yesterday that with the results of the latest polls, the kids have all ran to their abacus.

  • standard

    A good link for friends who do not understand
    why you will not vote for Obama.

    It is an early sign that things were not right with him.

    httpCOLON//www.nytimesDOTcom/2008/02/03/us/politics/03exelon.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

  • Tattie

    Way to go McCain. NOW THIS IS THE NEWS I’VE BEEN WAITING FOR. Sorry Hillary if not you than McCain

  • db

    No The Super Delegates would not dump BO if he were down 10 points, even if he were down 20! The SD’s and the DNC are a bunch of sold out low-down thugs, in it for themselves, not the people of this country!

  • roseeriter

    I think the DNC ASSUMED that all democrats would vote for any democrat but Hillary because of the 8 horrible years of Bush, propped up the black young candidate to GROW the party by pandering to AAs and the kid-vote.

    I also think Dean listened to his paid blogger hacks like Kos and others and they had inpute on the ‘Anyone but Clinton” cause the boomers needed to move out of the way.

    Well, that might have worked if they had kept ACORN voting thuggery, fraud, misogyny sexism, racism out of the sleazy campaign. For millions of voters Country comes First over Lying, Cheating and corruption.

  • standard

    They must be willing to sacrifice their careers
    and forever be branded as voting for the biggest
    loser in American history.

  • HARP

    Strap yourselves in. Fox just reporting that they are going to go negative on McCain.

  • beebop

    Ted won’t live too long with the shame of it, God help him ….. and for you tiny trolls out there, I am not wishing this on him so much as I am stating facts, okay? Deal with it.

  • db

    They already look like idiots!

  • Obama is a bum

    The blacks and the guilters will go over a cliff with Obama but everyone else is capable of coming to their senses. Three anti-Obama books are in the top five — people want to find out about Obama since the media just sugarcoats him.

  • workingclass artist

    Thanks Bee, Things are truly getting strange…..I’m prayin for her. How do they work her vote out id she can’t make it to Denver ?

  • roseeriter

    No this Obama crap has been in the works since 2004.

  • beebop

    I assume by “they” we are talking 0bama and the “D’s?”

    That should work well, don’t you think? Who has more at risk when the gloves come off? Soretoes or POW? Just sayin’ …..

  • Peep

    And recall Obama has always polled higher by 4-9 points so it actullay means he is losing the race which sorry dose not suprise he neveer had the support the media and Pelosi hyped.

  • db

    I won’t watch any of it either!

  • db

    They hate Hillary! They love the black man!

  • http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com Gloria

    LOL!! Caroline Kennedy as VP!!

    Considering the response to my “open letter” to Caroline, that will be greeted with …well, not very well!!! (By the way, she obviously has ignored my letter’s plea to have her “dis-endorse” Precious…

    An Open Letter to Caroline Kennedy–July 13, 2008

    http://tinyurl.com/6bseyq
    http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com

  • beebop

    If — as speculation had it — the Republicans sent investigators to Indonesia … 100 could be his upside. And he might be without a seat in the Senate.

  • Obama is a bum

    Aren’t we all racist according to the Obamapukes?

  • Solidarity

    I have been observing the Dems from “across the aisle” and I must say that I am shocked at the incompetence of the DNC. While we in the GOP may not have loved the Clintons, I can damn sure tell you that we respected their political abilities and saw them as worthy adversaries.

    I have spoken with quite a few fellow Republicans over the past few months about how impressed we were with Hillary. I may not agree with her on everything, but I have no question as to her toughness, her resolve or her competence.

    God knows you would never hear of the RNC swiftboating the Clintons- we knew it wouldn’t work and we just might live to regret it.

    On the other hand, the Rove Jrs. will eat Barry alive…why is the DNC so blind to this? Do they honestly think that he has even the slightest chance once the ad blitz comes?

  • http://www.lezident.com Lezident

    RCP has McCain up +10 electoral votes with no tossups

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/?map=10

    Important to note that Obama has led in virtually all prior electoral vote projections…this is a big shift away from NObama.

  • db

    It has been. Just read Donna Brizle’s article on Slate magazine.
    They railroaded Hillary from the gate, way before the primaries.

  • Obama is a bum

    What goes around comes around.

  • workingclass artist

    Ehemmm…..Shiloh I reside in the Mildly Fascist State of Texas and Roves Christian Campers were hand in hand with Obama’s fascists….chuckle…Typical in Texas….HRC had a real chance to bring the republic back under the tent IMHO….Aaaaand well we ( GOP ) just cannot allow that…..Can We ( GOP ) ?

    ** If anyone doubted GOP gamin then just look to Texas cause this is GOP christian camp land…..and it was obvious…..strange bedfellows & Rove’s wetdream……sheeesh! **

  • georgiapeach

    So are most of his supporters. Unlike economics, apparently pissy attitudes and rude behavior can trickle down.

  • beebop

    No idea … but Diane isn’t leading the California delegates either. Starts to look like some longstanding Democrats aren’t too enamored of being seen in Denver? JOWO.

  • Elizabeth Reilly

    Not only is Obama going to be toast in this election, but he’s really damaged his entire political future. I doubt that he’ll be voted out of the Senate, given that he has such a huge back constituency in Illinois, but now that he has been exposed as someone who takes credit for the hard work of others, as one who is the ultimate opportunist, I wonder if his fellow Senators will be so generous with their praise of him.
    You think Michelle wasn’t proud of America before? Good Lord, what’s she going to think of the country when he loses?!

  • Obama is a bum

    Sharpton threatened to protest if SDs did not give it to Obama and the media was in the tank for Obama causing the DNC to collapse like a cardboard home in a hurricane.

  • HARP

    Of course it will be Whitey`s fault.

  • db

    I think the polls are wrong. What I’ve heard is that many people being polled are saying their voting for BO so they don’t appear racist. If this is the case, McCain will slaughter BO in the fall.

  • HARP

    I will say that at least both Hillary and John will put country first.

  • wodiej

    not sure about that one, I believe George Soros and a far left agenda is part of it.

  • Sassy

    The Republican mantra…without national security, all other issues are irrelevant!
    The actions of Russia at this time surely gives pause to many voters who understand that the U.S. may not have time for the “O” to consult his 300 advisers!
    Another action in the works…the Media may realize they are hanging on the same limb with the “Rookie”!

  • Kevin

    Bluster from BHO, nothing more.
    I unfortunately saw his ad where he tries to tie McCain to big oil. That from the only one of the three (HRC included) who voted for the secretly negotiated Cheney oil bill

  • NotBrainwashed

    They just think calling the GOP the “white party” or “racists” will shut them up and send them home crying. As if Rove and the GOP care.

  • wodiej

    I agree…not only that they are probably fearful of vandalism, verbal abuse and threats. I’m not saying all Obamamites are capable of this but many are.

  • Perry Logan

    The voters intuitively know that Obama and his campaign are misogynist creeps.

  • Obama is a bum

    What else can they do? There is nothing positive about Obama to rally around. Play the race card and attack McCain. One can only stand on a stage for so many months and chant “yes we can”, “change”, and “hope”. Even the zombies will eventually wake up and say “what the hell are we doing here?”

  • NotBrainwashed

    You’re absolutely right, without national security, all other issues are of a lower priority. And I don’t trust Barry to take a stand on much of anything, let alone our SAFETY.
    But seriously, 300 advisors!? Maybe we should just elect them. Not that they seem very competent either.

  • workingclass artist

    The GOP crackerman has a deaf ear…chuckle…..Civil Rights only matter when IT IS GOOD FOR BUSINESS…..
    McCain like Clinton is not your average goostepper…and the GOP is stuck with him after tryin to get rid of him for about 20 years…chuckle….
    He’ll pull a TR….and be accused of being a party traitor….I’m cool with it.
    WJC was accused of being a party traitor….HRC will prevail no matter how hard the party tries to get rid of her…..She and McCain have that in common.

  • roseeriter

    Geez, please state it correctly

    THEY ARE IDIOTS- all wannabee celebs.

  • Gregory

    So true!!! They are almost as much, if not more, of a reason NOT to vote Obama than the man himself!

  • katmandu

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/ohio/election_2008_ohio_presidential_election

    Just out today from Rasmussen, Obama is down by 5 in Ohio. And read this:

    The most discouraging number in the poll for Obama may be the fact that 51% of Ohio voters have an unfavorable opinion of the presumptive Democratic nominee. That figure includes 33% with a Very Unfavorable opinion, up six percent from a month ago.

    Overall, 47% of Buckeye State voters offer a positive opinion of Obama. That’s fifteen points below the 62% with a favorable opinion of McCain.

    And now let’s check into the scorned state of Florida (scorned by the DNC, that is):

    John McCain has recaptured the lead over Barack Obama in Florida, besting his Democratic opponent 46% to 43% in the latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of voters in the state.

    Counting “leaners,” McCain attracts 48% of the voter while Obama earns 46%. That advantage for McCain is well within the poll’s margin of sampling error. [snip]

    While Obama remains close in the polls, he is viewed unfavorably by 48% of Florida voters, including 57% of white voters. Just 49% of all voters give the Democrat a favorable assessment. McCain is viewed favorably by 61% of Florida voters and unfavorably by 36%.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/florida/election_2008_florida_presidential_election

    Obama is tanking all over.

  • sfhillary

    Yeah, yeah, blah blah blah. Here are a few basic facts:

    1. Obama is leading. Still.

    2. The notion that McCain might choose a pro-choice VP is laughable. This is the Republican Party we’re talking about. You MUST be — or, as in the case of McCain, pretend to be — a theocratic fascist to be elected to national office in that party. McCain will not nominate a pro-choice VP. All you PUMAs are supporting evangelical authoritarians. Congratulations.

    3. There’s no doubt that the negative onslaught has hurt Obama in the polls. But no polls taken today can measure the power of Obama’s ground game. As I have said many times on this site, Obama is betting the entire election on the hugest registration and-get-out-the-vote efforts in the history of American politics. He will rise and fall with the results of that effort.

    Obama’s bet on winning is a vast army of committed progressive volunteers who will seek to set voting records for African-Americans, young voters, Latinos and the like. McCain’s bet is on rich people funding negative TV advertising. I’m sure you are all very proud to be supporting the Republican asshole. But you are going to get your asses kicked this fall.

  • NotBrainwashed

    In the voting booth, thankfully, everything is private. A lot of people will probably vote McCain and say that they voted for Obama (Soetoro)?

    American voters just see Obama as too much of a risk.

  • workingclass artist

    Hmmmm…..MASSIVE COLLECTIVE ASSCOVERIN….methinks….

  • insix

    I wonder if its above his pay grade also?

  • Obama is a bum

    I think everyone admires the effort Hillary put in when the Democrats tried to get her to quit before the Texas and Ohio primaries even though the race was close. She won both Texas and Ohio. Obama kept on parading people to endorse him every week and Hillary kept on winning other states.

    I think Kennedy dropped the ball big time when he came out and endorsed Obama.

  • Bye bye Obambi

    In my earliest letters to superdelegates I said to them “how would you like history to remember you?”

  • Liz B

    You are brilliant! Thanks for giving me a great answer to the same question I hear a lot these days. and with all those magazine covers…I just don’t understand…

  • OBSP

    Beebop, I was with the Congresswomen in Wisconsin and Texas and a bunch of us hung out. She drank very little of any.

  • politicsIsdirty

    Shall I say, “karma” befalls those who promote injustice?

  • http://investigatebarackobama.wordpress.com/about/ kat in your hat

    Hillary stay away from Obama! He is radioactive!! He’ll bring you down with him. You will be the scapegoat for every one of his flaws, you will do the dirty work defending him, but you won’t gain anything at all, you will only lose your supporters. You will LOSE on his ticket.

    Fight for the WH, if you don’t get it now, come back in four years!!

    Stay AWAY from Obama!

  • workingclass artist

    Hmmm….I’m from the ” DAZED AND CONFUSED GENERATION “….just like BARRY OBAMASOETERO…..I’m approx. the same age…..
    Any questions watch the movie….We’s just slow in development…chuckle…
    Need more seasoning….if you catch my drift….BUT HEY! MY GENERATION HAS BEEN GOOD FOR THE REHAB INDUSTRY….AND LINDSEY LOHAN CAN THANK US FOR THAT…..WRIIIGHT……LOL

  • politicsIsdirty

    I agree. They are more interested in the monies they receive not the welfare of the country.

  • OBSP

    I have two words for Kos Bloggers, Ned Lemont!

  • politicsIsdirty

    Who was it who said that the “closer you get to Obama, the smaller he gets”?

  • Steve1

    sfHillary You appear so knowledgeable! Can you explain why Obama does not produce his medical records? I still have not seem that pesky BC? Please also explain his trip to Pakistan?

  • paul_lukasiak

    wow! This is so much like what I said the GOP should do that its uncanny.

    Basically, months ago I was saying that the smart thing to do would be to hang back on any attacks on Obama — chip away slowly at his lead, to the point where smart people can read the writing on the wall, but the Oborg still think he’s The One.

    I can’t imagine being a ‘superdelegate’ right now, looking at these polling numbers, and realizing that Obama is tanking, and that he’s NEVER shown the ability to make the necessary adjustments in his campaign.

    And the worst part is that Obama is dragging the Democratic “brand” down with him.

  • http://investigatebarackobama.wordpress.com/about/ kat in your hat

    Hillary, Obama is going to lose no matter what. He can’t beat McCain no matter who is on his ticket.

    STAY AWAY FROM HIM.

  • NotBrainwashed

    Still in denial? I guess it’s true what they say about a river…

    Answer me this: if Obama is so successful, why isn’t he at least 10 points ahead? How many teen voters and newly registered Chicago/Detroit/Denver voters can Obama count on to actually show up on election day? Why is Obama’s lead slipping considerably among the youth vote?

    Obama is slipping among LIKELY voters. LIKELY voters are people who rarely miss a vote. Obama is behind in most battleground states. These factors alone should cancel out the bump the youth vote gives him. It’s bad news for your Messiah. But go ahead, deny, deny, deny…

  • workingclass artist

    Karma Dominoes….they are addin up….

  • Steve1

    sfHillary, Uhmmmmmm On that Latino vote, 60-65% voted for Clinton, I believe they are going to go MCCain, 70-75% Asian vote went for Clinton. I think they are going to go McCain!

  • http://liberalrapture.com scott in jupiter

    Troll Speak:

    Were just trying to make the old man over confident so he’ll drop his shields. Then we move in for the kill.

  • politicsIsdirty

    How about those progressive waking up to his idea of change….constatly changing stance on FISA, Oil Driling, etc.

    Who was it who said that “the closer you are to Obama, the smaller he gets”?

    Maybe you should research your candidate further before voting for him.

  • katmandu

    Here’s another poll, down by a commercial research firm called Big Research. (www.bigresearch.com)

    I’m a subscriber so I don’t know if you can see the results but here they are — and notice the large sample size:

    If the Presidential Election were held today, who would you vote for?

    All adults, John McCain 38.0%, Barack Obama 37.4%

    All registered voters, McCain 39.0, Obama 36.6

    Voted in 2004, McCain 40.9%, Obama 35.4%

    Source: BIGresearch, Aug 08 (N=8582)

    Until a few days ago, I thought Obama was still in the lead, but I’m not sure right now. And I do not think his VP choice will help him (unless it’s Clinton). I’ve talked about this before — but if you go to the VP trial heats data Survey USA was doing weeks ago, the only big aid to Obama was John Edwards, and he’s gone. Hillary helped him a little bit. But several VP choices really helped McCain, including Romney.

  • workingclass artist

    Well according to Soetero’s minions….We are ether secret republicans, racists, bitter women man haters or race traitors….pick your lable and wear it proudly as an embarrassment to Oama ( Obama test ) and reside on the fringe as a spectator to a trainwreck….Are’nt the spectators the ones who pick up the wreckage…We will rebuild the party built by FDR either as Democrats or in a third wave as a new centrist party…..

  • NotBrainwashed

    Ouch!

  • missE

    This video clip is of Obama talking to vets yesterday.

    At about the 52sec mark, Obama says “I love America”.

    The teleprompter must have been testing him to see if he knew what to say next without it. Sadly the answer if no as Obama waits for it to start again.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPnCXhx_S9o

  • JoseyJ

    Eeeek! and she has a Repub challenger –

    >>>Cleveland’s WOIO reports that police tried to pull over a fast-moving sedan at around 9 p.m. Tuesday but got no response from the driver. When they managed to get the car stopped in a field, they found Tubbs Jones, 58, unconscious in the driver’s seat.

    A spokeswoman for the Huron Road Hospital in East Cleveland confirmed Tuesday night that Tubbs Jones was in the hospital but told the AP that family members wanted no further information released. WOIO said that Tubbs Jones’ condition has been “stabilized.”

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/20/politics/politico/thecrypt/main4365715.shtml

  • fif

    Another flip-flop. So much for “New Politics.” He did the same thing to Hillary after she won TX & OH. As she continued to win, they tore into her more with their lying health care smears and NAFTA b.s. My 2 biggest reasons for not supporting him (and it’s hard to choose, there are so many) are his lack of experience and his repellent hypocrisy.

  • workingclass artist

    The voters intuitively smell FASCISM…..NO MATTER WHAT NAME IT GOES UNDER….

  • wodiej

    appreciate your objectivity about the Clintons as well as your common sense.

  • fif

    I feel the same way about McCain. There are a few key issues on which I am diametrically opposed to him (abortion and gay rights), but I respect him and his service to this country. I read his book to learn more and there is no way someone goes through his war experience without being transformed. It’s clear in his character. Obama, the opposite. At such a dangerous time in our history, we cannot afford a neophyte–especially a self-serving, dishonest one.

  • Katmoon

    And there isn’t fighting amongst your own supporters?

  • sfhillary

    You think Latinos and Asians will vote for McCain? Well, if you’re right, McCain will win the election by an enormous landslide. But you are not right. There is a ZERO PERCENT chance that any Republican would win the Latino vote in 2008 against any Democrat. In case you hadn’t noticed, the Republicans have spent the past eight years engaging in racist attacks on Latinos, using the immigration issue to play to their racist redneck base (the same base that hates Obama because he’s, um, Muslim and unpatriotic). So the Latinos really aren’t very fond of the GOP right now, and your notion that they might go for McCain is, to say the least, delusional.

    I will say this: McCain could win the election while losing the Latino vote. But he is not going to win the Latino vote. That is a dead certainty.

  • Liz B

    Yes, I agree. More than even we know, and we PUMAs are pretty sharp. Check out the LaRouche website for indepth information on Soros. Apparently, this laRouche guy has had supporters at DMVs talking his points for several years…I thought he was a hack, but I accidently stumbled on expaination of who George Soros is and why he may be deserving of more of our wrath (and fear),it seems he may be the controlling money behind the DNC now, he bought out MoveOn.org and wanted to push out the Clintons from their authority position in the party. Most importantly, he supports Dean monetarily and he met with Obama in a private meeting in 2004…some say this was the day the DNC started a covert mission to select Obama as the 08 candidate and they just systematically started spreading his money into the Caucus states and attaching it to Obama to woo these Dems long before it all went down in January. Yep, our party is in need of some housecleaning and can anyone say Congressional Inquiries? They have got some explaining to do…

  • Obama is a bum

    If Obama had his way everytime someone voted for McCain the voting machine would go off the way a slot machine does when someone hits a jackpot, except a big “Racist” sign would blink on and off.

  • workingclass artist

    I’ll ask again is she a diabetic ? Symptoms of Diabetic Shock are so similar to DUI that cops have to take special training to recognize the symptoms…I have a friend who refuses to wear a Diabetic D bracelet or medallion….This has caused problems for his wife as he does not drink ANY alcohol and he is brittle so it can happen no matter how hard he tries to manage the disease….

  • http://www.greensunshine.net jadwiga

    Where are the trolls?

  • fif

    McCain’s campaign has contacted several states to find out if he can put a “non-Republican” on the ticket. Does the name Joe Lieberman ring a bell?

  • sfhillary

    Polls are ephemeral. Organization wins. It is true that McCain has basically caught up to Obama in the polls; he finally has a competent campaign manager who recognizes that McCain’s only chance of winning the election is a relentless negative campaign that seeks to destroy Obama, from now until Election Day. But that will not be enough. The polls taken after the VP choices and both conventions will be a lot more meaningful than polls today. And the ground game on Election Day will be far more meaningful than any polls. The ground game (along with possible electoral fraud in Ohio’s Diebold machines) made the difference for Bush over Kerry in 2004. And the ground game dramatically favors Obama this year.

  • Objective analysis

    MsNBC news reports that McCain has open a 5 point lead on Obama and the voters think that McCain, not Obama, will be able to be a better steward of the economy. Supposedly a Democrat stronghold.

    Where is clinton when you need them? Oh Obama put he and his wife under the bus.

    PUMA 2008 – anybody but Obama

  • fif

    Do you read anything? One of the problems McCain has with his base is his progressive stance on immigration.

  • Kevin

    Steve
    don’t bother
    it never answers a direct question

  • Obama is a bum

    With 300 advisors he will get at least 300 opinions and how long will that take to sort out? This country could be completely blown up waiting for Obama to make a decision.

  • Steve1

    sfHillary…UmmmmmmYeah, live in your land of delusion. There may be some truth to what you say. But the Democrats do not have the Latino vote locked up. Most Latinos are Cathloic and pro-life. The Latinos who vote, and serve and love our country. Voted for Clinton for many reasons. McCain has won the Latino vote in his state and appeals to Latino voters for his stance on immigration issues. They will vote for McCain, you watch and see. Asians will vote for McCain. To bad you support a loser who hangs with the HATE America crowd. Who has very little experience. You still haven’t answered my questions???? Come on BOT!

  • JoseyJ

    imo – the Kennedys endorsement was planned longggg before the primary even began.
    When Kerry endorsed Obama in Dec., John Edwards said Kerry had told him “last summer” he was endorsing Obama.

    The Kennedys always detested the outsider hicks – Carters and Clintons – but failed with their elitist picks – Dukakis and Kerry.
    For all the Kennedys support for the working class – they prefer an elitist for president.

  • sfhillary

    Nobody gives a shit about any of this stuff. If they did, Cindy McCain’s business practices and their impact on her husband’s policies would be a bigger story than anything relating to the Obamas. I find it so amusing that the GOP is trying to paint the middle-class Obamas as elitist while ignoring the fact that the McCains are worth a couple hundred million, have about eight homes, etc etc.

    Whatever. That’s just typical mainstream media idiocy. And yes, keep praying for trivial gotcha crap to stay at the top of the headlines, because if this election is decided by issues and intelligence and sheer personal capability and party loyalty, McCain is going down in flames.

    And by the way, no supporter of John McCain, with his vaguely articulated and, so far as I know, not fully documented “full recovery” from skin cancer, should be clamoring for full medical disclosure. That is NOT likely to favor your candidate.

  • OBSP

    You are soooo… correct!

  • fif

    American voters are becoming increasingly worried about Obama’s complete lack of experience.

    So where have they been? This has been the most obvious and critical issue from the very beginning. I have never understood why he was even in contention with his incredibly thin resume. Add to that the multiple associations, the lying, the flip-flopping and the DNC corruption and it’s amazing to me that his numbers are even close to McCain. It’s only because people would vote for Mickey Mouse if he was the Party nominee. That’s what they were counting on. But: WE WERE THE ONES THEY WERE NOT EXPECTING!

  • JoseyJ

    Solidarity – Obama is banking on winnning via the significant increase in Dem voter registrations.
    Conservative radio and TV talk show hosts rarely, if ever, encourage Repub voter registration.

  • Katmoon

    Do you really want to go down the disclosure route?

    PS> You speak for nobody< everybody? What interests people on this site isn’t anything you can comprehend.

  • DancingOpossum

    Solidarity, I’ve heard that from several Republican friends and acquaintances. My closest friend is a hardcore Republican so we mostly try to avoid discussing politics (except this year!), and she told me that while she flat-out HATES Hillary, she was enraged at the treatment Hillary received from the DNC and the media, and said she was blown away by her interview with O’Reilly. Another Republican friend told me that a match-up between Hillary and McCain would have been fantastic; he called it “two tough, experienced, warriors who respect each other.”

    At this point I almost wish HRC would ditch the Dems and become McCain’s VP.

  • Kick Barry to the Curb

    The ground game favors Obama when there are caucuses to be gamed. When actual voters show up to pull the lever or punch a card etc., he loses.

    The proven polling blocs such as all those bitter senior women will be out on election day and they are not going Barry’s way.

    Even with a massive new voter turnout (which didn’t deliver him as much as you would like to believe in the primaries) it is unlikely to be able to off set those who will turn out to the polls in droves to see to it that he is not our next president.

  • Kevin

    MIDDLE CLASS?!?
    You actually think a us senator, and his lawyer wife in a million dollar home are middle class?
    man, you are fucking stupid

  • csuzeq

    But Mccain cheated! Whhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

    Racists!

  • DancingOpossum

    Symptoms of Diabetic Shock are so similar to DUI that cops have to take special training to recognize the symptoms

    Yup. My bf was recently arrested for a DUI even though his blood-alcohol test registered ZERO when the cops pulled him over. He was in diabetic shock and the cops didn’t know this, apparently they hadn’t had any training in this. It’s no joke btw. Another time he went into diabetic shock and I called an ambulance, and the paramedics kept telling me he was drunk. Even at the hospital they couldn’t figure out what to do with him (our local hospital is a notorious chop shop) and finally I ended up just buying him a Coke from the vending machine and taking him home. It’s really horrifying, to put it mildly.

  • csuzeq

    If asked, I will reply, “It’s the lying stupid!”

  • Kevin

    it is a generic term for those of undetermined gender, and fuck you right back you fucking ignorant troll.
    Glad i could piss you off this morning.
    and my condensation is warranted, in the extreme.

  • bemused

    Desperately looking for a number to spin. They tend to show up more about 2 hours from now anyway.

  • Mary Lou

    Sure!! Keep on dreaming!!
    What must slowly be dawning on you is that Obama is fundamentally a weak candidate and the more people see him/learn about him the more they are struck by his inexperience and lack of core values.
    And no amount of registering college students, former felons and dead people is going to save him.

  • sfhillary

    The word is “condescension,” not “condensation,” you sub-literate idiot. LOL. That pretty much says it all. Elementary semantic errors are to be expected when you try to keep up with your intellectual superior.

  • workingclass artist

    EHEMMM….Kevin SFHILLARY is currently standin in line to have a go at the village goat in GAZA….First things First….LOL

  • csuzeq

    If it was a DUI, it’s because of all this crap. I drank alot Saturday after Saddleback. Not sure if I was celebrating the stupidity or drowning my sorrows that this freak won over Hillary!

  • workingclass artist

    SFHIILARY….THERE IS NO MIDDLE CLASS IN AMERICA….HELLO !
    There are Workingclass folks with or without degrees or jobs…and there is the TOP 1%…..
    Aaaaaand that is the facts….economically speaking of course….

  • NoTrollZone

    tis better he didn’t wait. if this toxic mess had actually gained experience (never wisdom, of course, never wisdom) he could have gone farther, he perhaps could have gained the presidency. this would have been a crime against humanity. luckily his stupidity and hubris sent him forward to tilt at windmills.
    he needs to be a footnote to our country’s history and nothing more.

    If the smelling salts are brought out at the convention and the delegates act with a modicum of intelligence, we can dump this mess from our party and win with Hillary.

    If not, we have done our job (continue to do our job) to prevent a piece of crap from ascending to dangerous heights.

    I never would even have had obama brand in my shopping cart (though I like your analogy). You see I read the labels. And Obama has always been all filler and chemical additives.

  • sfhillary

    You really are clueless, aren’t you? What do you think the Obamas’ net worth is? Can you name a single presidential nominee of either party who had a lower family net worth in the past forty years?

    Here, let me help you: the Obamas’ net worth, according to Money Magazine, is $1.3 million, which includes their property:

    http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2007/moneymag/0712/gallery.candidates.moneymag/5.html

    It might be a slight stretch to call someone whose total net worth, including their home, is just over a million bucks. But by standard of comparison to any other national politician of his stature, Obama is middle class. Shit, compared to any other Senator that I know of, the guy is impoverished.

    Do you have any questions, Kevin? By the way, by what measure do you call me a “troll?” What does that word mean to you? I don’t pretend to be someone I’m not; I don’t pretend to have any other agenda than being a loyal Democrat who now supports Obama; I’m not a sock puppet; I don’t lie about anything? Calling me a troll reduces the word to a complete lack of meaning.

  • Kevin

    oooh
    I misspelled a word. big deal, you’ve done it as well. many times. got a hair across your ass this morning? And the claim of being my intellectual superior is typical of an elitist, narcissistic personality. Sound familiar to someone? And as to my other response, do you really believe the obamas are middle class?
    really?

  • Kevin

    oooh
    I misspelled a word. big deal, you’ve done it as well. many times. got a hair across your ass this morning? And the claim of being my intellectual superior is typical of an elitist, narcissistic personality. Sound familiar to someone? And as to my other response, do you really believe the obamas are middle class?
    really?

  • sfhillary

    Do you read polls? McCain is losing the Latino vote to Obama, badly.

  • Kevin

    good one

  • sfhillary

    And to answer your question, I read EVERYTHING. McCain did, in the past, have a highly progressive stand on immigration. He has since repudiated that stand, and his own co-authored immigration bill — a flip-flop of near-legendary proportions. Regardless, it is not McCain but the entire Republican brand that is badly tarnished with Latinos this year.

  • workingclass artist

    ALMOND BREATH….is the key. Diabetic Psychosis often looks like a bad acid trip….I don’t know how brittle diabetics do it….One tricky disease no matter how careful you are…..

  • Katmoon

    I hope they find out what is wrong, as well as pray that it is something that can be dealt with.

  • bemused

    sfhillary, polls were everything to you when in your favor. I must say you are persistent, but: You need to Get Over It, Sweetie.
    The mask is slipping and can’t be put back. There are places people have found they can “go to” besides the corrupt DNC.

  • sfhillary

    This is just idiotic. There is a top 1%, yes. And there’s a “working class,” yes. And then there is the majority of American households, which own homes, have combined incomes of around $75,000 a year, and can only reasonably be called Middle Class. This almost certainly includes the majority of people on this board.

  • LIsabona

    Me to! But nobody is listening.He is a fraud,liar,opportunist.I don’t care about his skin color. I care about his character which is, no character.Who he really is? Barry Soetoro or Barack Obama. At least those who will vote for him,has to know for whom they are voting for?

  • workingclass artist

    Diabetic shock can depending on which way the level swings can mimic either drunken stupor….or psychosis ( bad acid trip )
    My friend carries the glucose tabs and has to tell some folks what to look for in case he needs help and this is hard for a proud man to do….( sigh )

  • NoTrollZone

    B.O.W.L.

    heh heh
    good one.

  • Kevin

    you are a troll by the definition of coming to a pro-hillary site, in order to incite, inflame, distract, enrage and generally make a pest of yourself. You claim to be smarter, more informed and better than anyone else here. You also happen to be wrong, often. Hence, you are a troll.
    And by calling the Obamas “middle class” when in fact they are extremely well compensated, live in a mansion, he has made millions in book royalties, shows us that you are either ignorant of these facts, or simply ignore them to make a point that the McCains are wealthier.
    And no, I have no questions for you, as all I would get is more pablum from the gaza handbook for trolls.

  • csuzeq

    OMG! Time to boycott Heinz! Buy Hunts instead!

  • jbjd

    HOW TO STOP HARASSMENT OF CLINTON-PLEDGED DELEGATES

    BACKGROUND

    Some states have enacted laws that bind their pledged delegates to vote for the candidate to whom they are pledged as the result of votes cast in the state’s primary or caucus contest, at least through the first round of voting at the party’s Presidential nominating convention. Therefore, in these states, to threaten, pressure, or coerce pledged delegates to vote for a candidate other than the one to whom they are pledged is to solicit them to break the law.

    PURPOSE

    To stop harassment of Clinton-pledged delegates in those states that have these vote binding laws, notify the Attorney General of your state, someone is breaking the law.

    RATIONALE

    As has been reported in the press, in states throughout the country, delegates pledged to Clinton are under siege to switch their allegiance to Obama. A CO delegate was summoned into the office of the state chairman to explain the contents of an email she had sent to a fellow delegate, for expressing loyalty to her candidate. (“Explain, Dems tell Clinton delegate”) http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_10170139
    A MN delegate was stripped of her delegate status. (“Wisconsin Democrats strip woman of delegate position for saying she will vote for McCain”) http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/25908499.html
    A KY delegate for Clinton was replaced with a delegate for Obama. (“Clinton supporters protesting removal of delegate at Democratic National Convention”) http://www.whas11.com/news/local/stories/WHAS11_POLITICS_080814_CLINTONOBAMA.486a4d97.html

    There are two sets of ‘rules’ that apply to state pledged delegates. There are the rules written by the Democratic National Committee in the “Call to the Convention”; and there are rules written by states, which are called laws. State laws always trump DNC rules. For example, DNC rules call for pledged delegates to use their “good conscience” to represent the will of the voters. State laws, however, require delegates to vote for the candidate to whom they are pledged, at least through the first round of voting at the nominating convention.
    Even DNC party ‘elders’ including Governor Ed Rendell (PA), fail to understand the difference between DNC rules and state laws. Speaking with Neil Cavuto on FOX TV, he opined, delegates are not bound to vote for a particular candidate at the convention. ‘There’s no such thing as a “pledged” delegate. We haven’t had a “robot rule” since the Carter Kennedy convention in 1980.’ Since PA is not a vote binding state, we can understand his confusion. But in fact, in these vote-binding states, the word “pledged” means exactly what it says. If even Ed Rendell is unaware some states have enacted vote binding laws, one cannot assume that Clinton’s pledged delegates are aware of such laws.

    Evidence indicates that in addition to the DNC, Obama’s campaign has been pressuring Clinton-pledged delegates. For example, here is a portion of the letter sent to delegates throughout the country from Khalil Thompson out of Obama’s Chicago campaign office.
    Updates: Delegate Paperwork
    Fill out you National Delegate Web Survey… http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/delegate
    This is one for the Obama Campaign, so if you filled it out for the DNC and the State Party, please we the campaign still needs you to do so…
    If you have not filled this out you WILL BE MENTIONED on the call, so please take the time to do so…

    (“Bearing Witness”)
    http://heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com/2008/08/bearing-witness.html

    In any other political season, Clinton could hold her delegates’ hands, safely shepherding them through this nasty onslaught to the convention. But not now. Ever since she suspended her campaign, her delegates have been left to fend for themselves. And that’s where you come in. You can let them know: I have your back.

    In those states that have enacted vote binding laws, to threaten, pressure, or coerce those pledged delegates to vote for a candidate other than the one to whom they are pledged is to solicit them to break the law. So, turn them in. Write a letter to your Attorney General, the chief law enforcement official in the state. Include the links already provided to just some of the examples of harassment occurring throughout the country. Send a copy to the Office of the Secretary of State, which in most states oversees the political parties’ participation in state elections, including qualifying the party’s candidate to get on the ballot. And, for the record, send a copy to the chair of the state Democratic Party.
    ©jbjd

  • csuzeq

    Bowling score 37!

  • Leisa

    PUMA’s are diverse and you blanketly state they support the Republican candidate…

    PUMA’s are not about party, they are about our country and Democracy. Those concepts must be too difficult for you to get your polarized mind around.

    For example, you say Obama’s fraudulent ground game will help him win and you are proud of it. ACORN, yeah, great ground game. Do you even have a clue about some of the unethical practices that have been practiced on behalf of Obama in your touted ground game?

    If you think that the negativity on Obama has been bad so far, I suggest you fasten your seat belt.

  • William L. Donlon

    In just one month Obama has blown a 15 point lead that Dennis Kusinage could have expanded on. I refused to leave the Democratic party after the defeats in 72 and 80 and I will not leave it now.

    “Ass kicking Season” starts the day after election day!
    A “bad defeat” allows us to purge and rebuild. Any uncommitted delegate that votes for this disaster of a candidate in Denver needs to be ruthlessly purged after the defeat in November. That means Kerry, Dean, and , yes, even “Little Caroline”. So Vote McCain and start the purge.

  • csuzeq

    I always envision the fall to look like the Saddam statue being torn down. Anyone have an Obama statue? I’m sure someone, somewhere has made one! Damn bots!

  • NoTrollZone

    get some balls, get some ovaries, get some brain cells, get some eyeglasses, get some wheaties, get some bran, get some common sense… but for God’s sake get something and get us Hillary.

  • sfhillary

    You didn’t misspell a word, you used the wrong word. But you’re right — I made a huge grammatical error in a post just downwind and when I noticed it I had to laugh at my own arrogance in my response to you, which I myself undercut just moments later. You annoyed me with your use of the word “it,” which I tend to doubt was about indeterminate gender, but rather was typical PUMA language meant to imply to one’s fellow PUMAs that any Obama supporter can be considered somehow less than human. See the random ad hominem just below calling me a Gazan goatfucker. Meaning what? That as an Obama supporter I’m an Arab? That anyone who supports Obama wants to have sex with animals? It’s so random, meaningless and ugly that it almost defies belief that people actually think this way about other people that they don’t even know. When I am annoyed, as now, I can be rude and insulting, but I always only say one tihng: that PUMAs are dumb and ignorant. Speaking as someone who has read this site very exhaustively in recent months, I feel pretty justified in those assumptions, in most (though not all) cases; most people who post here do not know much about politics, or about the candidates’ actual stands on issues, or about campaigns, or media, or polling, or anything else of these subjects. Nor do they care; they just want to talk about how their generalized, inchoate feelings of hatred toward Obama. This is just a fact.

    But yes, I don’t just believe the Obamas are middle class: I know, according to a source I trust and to which I linked below, that their family’s net worth is just over one million dollars, including the value of their home. That’s pretty damn close to middle class.

  • Firefly

    bambi’s famous “ground game” can only work if he’s within 2 or 3 points of McCain going into November 4.

    And he ain’t gonna be anywhere near that close – barky’s circling the drain right now – by October he’s gonna be treading sewer water.

    Of course, they’ll try – what with ACORN and Coward Dean’s “expertise” with electronic voting machine technology working in his “50-state strategy,” and, of course, so many corrupt state and local officials (like that guy in Indiana) in their pocket who will cheat big. That’s bambi’s “ground game,” troll.

    The republicans know all about the dems’ “ground game” – and Karl Rove is laughing.

    And here’s a little deja vu for ya, troll – I remember in 2003/2004 the Deaniacs crowing (just like you are now) about their oh so superior “ground game” that was gonna sweep him through all the primaries to the nomination and on to the WH – OOPS!

  • Kevin

    and we’ll hit it with our shoes in fine muslim tradition of showing great disrespect.

  • Jim S

    This article helps to point out the reason why he’s dropping like a stone.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/the_odd_choices_in_barack_obam.html

  • Jane

    1. Obama is tanking. Still.

  • Bye bye Obambi

    Um, any thinking person will vote for McCain.

  • Bye bye Obambi

    Yes he did. But does he still feel that way? Or is he under the bus with Jackson?

  • workingclass artist

    SFHILLARY….YOu remind me of my GOP ” middleclass ” Brother in law who is baffled that no matter what things keep gettin worse for him no matter what…You are just the other side of the same coin.
    The COINAGE OF FOOLERY….You are only kiddin yourself and HEY ! a bankrupted credit card in your gated community don’t mean DICK to either rampaging hordes of hungry folks…Or FASCISTS WITH AN AGENDA WHEN YOU DON’T MEET THE NEW STANDARD OF DESIRABILITY….
    Kindly fall neatly into pit…Rule # 12. FASCISM for Dummies also known as the Official Obama Supporters Training Manual. Available in 4 languages including Arabic. And now with over 100 full color illustrations and an ObamaSoetero Action Figure in a Stylish Sarong.

  • Steve1

    sfHillary..Well answer my questions??? What’s wrong with you? BTW-I believe Obama/Soetoro started losing key Democrtic voters when your friend, “Ms Rules,” Donna Brazile, stated on CNN, “The new Dem. Party will ensure Mr. phony Messiah’s election. AAs and the youth!” Who practices exclusion?

  • Bye bye Obambi

    I have to have surgery soon, and I’m just praying it won’t be during the convention. What if I have a roommate who watches the convention on TV? I mean, that would make me really sick, having to listen to all that Mein Kampf crap!

  • Jane

    No, it is not idiotic. In some cities 75,000 can not be reasonably be called middle class.

  • csuzeq

    I would LMAO is he gets 100 or less!

    McCain has really come up in electorals. I’ve watched the maps since January!

  • csuzeq

    Key note speaker anyone????

    Kerry involvement anyone????

  • clik212

    Donlon,

    I’m with you! Clean this corrupt party and let’s start a New Democratic Party.

  • Jane

    It is?

  • csuzeq

    As a Republican, would you vote for McCain if he chose Hillary as VP? Just asking as I know some other Republicans and they say they would love that ticket!

  • dee4hill

    Bwah-hahahahaha! I just read this and Oh Happy Day! Who needs who, now? Seems like Barky-poo NEEDS Bill and Hill.

    NEVER, I mean NEVER underestimate the Clintons. Kind of evident just WHO the true leaders of the Dem Party are, eh?… Howard, Donna &

    God, I hope she doesn’t dirty her hands with the slime.

  • Steve1

    SfHillary,, Now in your earlier postings-you were knocking the polls because they showed McCain ahead? Now you’re quoting the polls which show Latinos are slanting towards Soetoro? OK, what is it with you? You are both ways, like Soetoro. AKA Obama. Like leader, like BOt. Want it both ways….ummmmm, than there is a Mr. Larry Sinclair!

  • ndree

    I am sure MSNBC CAN’T WAIT for the end of the Olympics to restart their 24 hour love fest of BO, and hard hitting the old warrior. But I am equally sure that the REpugs are well prepared and just waiting in the wings to unleash ALL they have on BO.

  • workingclass artist

    You read OBOPROP….Aaaand SFHILLARY you and the rest of the GANG at the Obamasotero Indoctrination Center in GAZA just WISH the ave. American was as illiterate as HAMAS insists on keeping it’s own voter base…Course you and the like wish that pesky constitution as gone too….Where’d your christian campers go ?

  • NoTrollZone

    I think the convention should start with a speech by Michelle Obama. I think it should last for twenty minutes and be unscripted. She should just let her thoughts flow freely. Say what she really thinks.
    I think her natural humility and compassion would shine through. She could act like all the votes had already been taken. She could lecture all the white folks on what trash they are. She could say fun
    things like “barack will heal your souls.”

    Then the first vote should be taken.

  • Jane

    Just remember Kevin this is what we will have to put up with if Obama gets the nomination.

    All the more reason for us to fight for Hillary for official nominee.

  • Rev. Wright, can you fix my garlic nose?

    Obama is banking on winnning via the significant increase

    Does that mean they’re shoring up the dead people and illegal alien vote?

    That’s why Job 1 is to get HRC the nomination. She won’t need phantom voters.

  • sfhillary

    As I have said several times, according to experts, their current net worth is $1.3 million:

    http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2007/moneymag/0712/gallery.candidates.moneymag/5.html

    Michelle has made big money in the past but isn’t working now. Obama has made good money from his books as well. But as is pointed out elsewhere on this thread, by the standards of an upscale urban neighborhood, the Obamas’ current net worth and income probably makes them upper middle class, but not upper class by any means. You want upper class, try the McCains. Obama is, almost without question, the poorest presidential nominee of either party in many years. His net worth is even lower than the Clintons, who weren’t rich either when Bill ran for the first time.

  • Kevin

    Unless he’s blown a lot of money on crack, his two best selling books should have netted him millions. And MHO makes deep six figures. Sot their net worth is probably north of $10 million. If that’s middle class, sign me up!

  • sfhillary

    Amusing rant. You sound like a progressive. Why any progressive would support a warmongering trickle-down Republican like McCain over a mainstream liberal Democrat like Obama is beyond me, but whatever. It’s a free country — albeit one that’s less free with each succeeding Republican administration.

  • NotBrainwashed

    Amen to that!

  • sfhillary

    Wrong. The ground game will favor Obama, period. His organization is virtually certain to get many more new voters to the polls than McCain. Whether this will be enough to carry him to victory remains to be seen; I’m pretty sure it will. But just to be clear: it is a FACT that his GOTV organization is immeasurably larger than McCain, and it is a FACT that GOTV organizations do deliver at least some votes. The only questions are, how much bigger, and how many more votes.

  • Solidarity

    I understand your frustration, but in a very short time I have a feeling that HRC is going to have her very own, new and improved, moonbat-free Democratic Party to run on; complete with a DNC that has a clue and probably the best set of political operatives around. It may be tougher for the GOP when that day comes, but so long as I am able to sit back and watch Hillary and Bill take it over and dish out some payback, that is enough for me.

    Nancy Pelosi has got to be scared out of her mind right now. She hasn’t been this nervous since she heard the “war-dance of the handmaidens of the oil companies.” Sheesh. What an idiot that one is.

  • csuzeq

    What I do not understand is why people did not see this like we did! My boyfriend is a loyal democrat who is falling in line, but the other day he realized Obie is going to lose and that Hillary was the electable one, just like I said from the beginning. He is a very smart man, yet he bought all the hype! I have been just baffled by it!

  • sfhillary

    A fair point. Polls are important; they tell us where we are today. When the polls clearly favored Obama I pointed out that PUMAs statements that he was collapsing were ludicrous. Today, I acknowledge that they seem to have, again, slipped back into a tie, due to McCain’s negative advertising. But the polls today do NOT betoken a McCain victory this fall. Far from it.

  • ndree

    I will fast and pray that Hillary is NOWHERE near that ticket! God save us!

  • Steve1

    You sound like a wannabe elitist! A new Democratic voter which Donna Brazile was referring to in her statement on CNN. “The new Dem party, AAs and the elite!” You are such a silly BOT!

  • dee4hill

    That’s it. And McCain has just enough of the “good old boy,” and “Grandpa McCain” warm and fuzzy thing to push him over the top. People like “regular” acting guys as their Prez – (even though they’re not) – not a rock star wannabee.

    I’d call this a clear case of overexposure (among other things, like no experience, flip-flopping, sleezy, and dumb as dirt) … people are sick to death of Barky being shoved down their throats. Even with him getting glowing 10 to 1 news coverage, the voters are still rejecting him. I was wrong – Americans ARE smarter than I thought.

    Don’t go near him with a 10 foot pole, Hillary! Wait for 2012 – that will be YOUR TIME!

    Hillary or McCain ’08!!!

  • Rev. Wright, can you fix my garlic nose?

    Fine. And I would say:

    PROVE IT

  • workingclass artist

    If Obamasotero is up for the game in NOV. then….Dukakis ( sp ? )will finally be able to hand over the title and relax in obscurity….Electoral Collegally speaking ( sp ? )…..of course….

  • csuzeq

    Love it!

  • just me

    sf

    if your “One” gets the nod don’t worry John McCain will work hard to show the latinos everything about BO….
    let the show begin and after thise 3 town hall meetings he with be simply your hero at zero.

    No good for God or Country.
    Country first !!!!
    Guess we all deserve to see just who we need in the Whitehouse?

  • wonderwoman

    I think Caroline Kenney would bring a wow factor. But I wouldn’t get on that ticket if I were her. It’s ultimately Obama. I won’t vote for him no matter who he puts on the ticket. I’ll forgive her for the way she backed Obama over HRC if she comes to her senses after the election.

  • Kevin

    Hate to say it, but it looks like 2012.
    That’s reality. But look at the bright side, if it goes for McCain in 08, BHO will reside in the DNC hall of shame, with McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis, Gore, and Kerry. And she won’t have to pick him as VP, after all this.

  • Patrick Walker

    You know, the more you think about it, the more I see George Jeffersen in Obama.

  • C.S.

    I think Pelosi and Reid gave us all we needed to know to figure out where the Democratic party stood when they campaigned on getting a majority in 06 to stop Bush and then shrugged and said, “Impeachment off the table” and then proceeded to continue to give Bush everything he asked for!

    And the very fact that they are going to such lengths to make sure Obama is the Democratic nominee should raise suspicions about why they prefer a man who openly states he likes the Reagan ideology and hints that he plans to follow it; which tends to make Obama more of a Republican than a Democrat to most party members. Makes me wonder what Team Pelosi, Reid and Obama plan to take “off the table” if Obama manages to defeat McCain.

  • wonderwoman

    If he is down in Zogby which seems to lean to democrats. He’s down in reality about 10 15.

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Oh man, and these are the people admitting that they will vote for Barky, get them behind the voting booth curtain and there is no way they will vote for this moron. Humans are creatures of habit, they voted for Bush twice for crying out loud. Obamabits fail to realize this. People will go with the status quo (as bad as it is) rather than the unknown…and because Barky can’t answer one question and stick to it, voters will not pull the lever for him.

  • csuzeq

    or Hillary!

    What a slam to the DNC that would be!

  • sfhillary

    What questions have I not answered? You assert that Latinos will vote for McCain. I state, based on facts, that McCain is way, way behind:

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/08/19/MNKN12DESI.DTL&type=politics

    “Yet if the country’s Latino Democratic leadership is divided over Obama, polls show Latino voters favor him by wide margins. A nationwide survey conducted in July by the Pew Hispanic Center showed Obama leading McCain 66 percent to 23 percent among Hispanic registered voters.”

    66 to 23 as of a few weeks ago, dude. That is a rout. And it will not change by November.

  • Patrick Walker

    That’s somewhat true.

    The Republicans are not about voting. On the contrary, the work to keep voters down, either through cyncism in friendly media outlets or by voter caging.

    Surprise, surprise, just after the primaries, Republicans in various states have submitted challenges to the voting rolls. Granted, it cannot be done in all states, but the GOP doesn’t have to do that in all states to be effective.

    Expect a lot of “… but I voted in the primaries!” on election day.

    The ground game will not be decisive. Relying on young voters is problematic and we’ve seen various MTV-style voter registration drives for fifteen years or so and they amount to squat.

    Paul Waldman has an excellent view on this:

    http://fora.tv/2006/06/12/Paul_Waldman

  • wonderwoman

    As for the Catholic vote someone must be passing around a live baby act tape,like I said yesterday. I think the Catholics wanted to give the dems a chance this year with the economy,war-but they just blew it with Barry.

  • Kevin

    What’s really interesting is that among the HRC supporters here, there are those who are voting for McCain (like me), or those who are going third party, and none that I know of who will vote for BHO. But there is very little disrespect over these hard choices we have had to make, unless it is from a troll. I like this site because my decision isn’t mocked or ridiculed by the regular members, it is a tough decision to vote against the party the you have supported for decades, but then my party has been stolen from me.

  • workingclass artist

    Actually….I AM ANTI-FASCIST.
    Teddy Roosevelt… A REPUBLICAN….Founded the modern Progressive Movement in America….So shove that up your ignorant oblowme ass….Guess that isn’t in the PROGRESSIVE propaganda lit…

    Obamasotero is a classic and tedious FASCIST and your fear pill won’t work here at NQ….WE LOVE OUR FRINGE HERE….
    NOW I THINK IT’S YOUR TURN WITH THE GOAT…BE SURE TO CLEAN UP AFTER YOURSELF….SFHILLARY….sheeesh!

  • http://puma caligirl

    In a sharp turnaround, Republican John McCain has opened a 5-point lead on Democrat Barack Obama in the U.S. presidential race and is seen as a stronger manager of the economy, according to a Reuters/Zogby poll released on Wednesday.

  • wonderwoman

    He is very arrogant in that he and the DNC should’ve know he would have run better in about ten years. This was Hillary’s time.

  • http://puma caligirl

    I think we can start to say “I told you so”!!!!

  • Patrick Walker

    McCain hasn’t done SHIT.

    Obama f*cked up. Stop blaming McCain for Obama’s ineptitude.

    How can you go to Saddleback church and not expect questions such as those? Did you expect the pastor to discuss Sino-Polish trade relations and their effect on WTO negotiations?!

    Obama fell on his own knife. McCain didn’t have to do anything except get out of the way.

  • workingclass artist

    LOL….I’D RATHER VOTE FOR GEORGE JEFFERSON….He had Weezey to keep him in line….chuckle….

  • Kevin

    She reminds me of when Sam Malone first meets Rebecca in Cheers
    “I bet that when you smile, you light up the room”
    she smiles
    “Guess I was wrong”

  • just me

    I guess at a push John McCain could pick Hillary after the DNCC… after all he could hold of announcing his VP after the convention next week??

    I know many will not agree with McCain/Clinton ticket but it would be a powerhouse!!

    Just what the country needs at this time.

    We can all dream and after all J McCain has proved time and time again to do what is best for each of us and the country…

    Country first!!

    Let’s bring the USA back to great.

  • imustprotest

    uhhh..sfhillary, did you read that linked article? It was more favorable toward McCain’s appeal to Latino voters.

  • wonderwoman

    I think Obama used up all his energy in the primaries against Hillary. He’s got not more tricks left.

  • dee4hill

    I’m going one of two places.

    1) Hillary
    2) McCain

    NOBAMA not now, not NEVER, EVER, EVER!

  • just me

    yes a close friend of mine went into diabetic shock and ended up driving down the freeway the wrong way!! VERY SCARY….
    Thankgoodness he was pulled over safley and everything was OK…

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    “Barack will heal your souls” Creepiest statement made by a wanna’ be first lady. EVER.

  • workingclass artist

    Doin FDR proud….Purge the party

  • Steve1

    SF Hillary Silly Bot

    Now you’re quoting polls, again, yet in your earlier postings, you knocked them…Botton line, your phony messiah does not appeal to Latino, Asian voters, that’s why they didn’t vote for him in the primaries! Get-it! Hey where is Obama/Soetoro’s BC? Medical Records? What was he doing in Pakistan?

  • ndree

    Bo and his denizens think that patriotic-sounding rap lyrics delivered with a charcoal voice and dreamy eyes, plus declaring “new” politics, so that noone would look into his past will allow him to glide into the WH, before anyone realizes what is happening.
    So the complicit media wraps him up in an aura of inevitability and forces him down our throats, not thinking that so many would puke because of the stink and foul taste.

  • stop Hussein

    Zogby Poll has McCain UP BY 5% today!!

  • workingclass artist

    Yeah…chuckle….As an official member of the Whore of Babylon Cult…That base is covered…..sorry Barry but my soul is in greater hands….Ask the Pope

  • just me

    do we have an email list of super delegates?
    I saw it posted somewhere but cannot find it lol
    having a blond moment….

  • Steve1

    NoTrollZone Rev Manning says he looks like King Kong’s baby sister. She needs coaching, she just keep that hate off her face!

  • Steve1

    she

  • Patrick Walker

    Any thinking person will be going insane at the abyssmal choice offered by the two parties.

  • C.S.

    Condescension: to assume an air of superiority.

    Condensation: to make denser or more compact.

    Perhaps both are correct; Kevin simply pointed out that your condensed answers left him with the unpalatable feeling of an assumed air of superiority.

  • workingclass artist

    SFHILLARY…( sigh )….Do you really think all those christian campers are goin to vote Democrat for Barry ?
    Does the Demofascist party have the money to get all those streetfolks on MEDS and give them RIDES to the booth on Nov. 4

    We are talkin a lot of cities here…lol…

    Can Barry’s hackers really beat GOP Bubbas….Oh You are so sad

  • http://puma caligirl

    Obama will NEVER get the Latino vote. Latinos hate blacks. Sad but true reality, especially here in California.

  • wonderwoman

    I voted for Hillary, but I went independent in 2005. I plan on voting McCain. Barack is just from from what most Americans know. He’s tried to craft a better family life,but his childhood was just screwy.

  • wonderwoman

    Obama’s sister and Michelle will speak the first night of the convention. I bet the ratings for Monday will be the lowest of the week.

  • PewL

    I heard Clinton is not giving up her delegates.

    http://alegrescorner.soapblox.net/showDiary.do?diaryId=667

  • Kevin

    And remember that Roosevelt had to battle constantly for the direction of the party with the bosses.
    The more I read about McCain, the more similarities I find.

  • workingclass artist

    Workingclass is no longer about what color you tell yourself our collar is….You are either rich elite or Foolish idealist suckin the dick of the rich elite….OR YOUR WORKINGCLASS AND FAIRLY DISGUSTED AT THE TURN OF EVENTS NO MATTER PARTY YOU VOTE FOR….

  • C.S.

    Cindy McCain is not running for president; however, if you want to unlock Michelle Obama’s secret stash of skeletons, lets open that door!

    (Knowing what her husband is hiding, gotta wonder which one has more to hide.)

  • C.S.

    Cindy McCain is not running for president; however, if you want to unlock Michelle Obama’s secret stash of skeletons, let’s open that door!

    (Knowing what her husband is hiding, gotta wonder which one has more to hide.)

  • sjc-tx
  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Yeah but Xanax and Prilosec sales will be through the roof.

  • workingclass artist

    True that Kevin….Our best and most effective presidents were all accused of being Party traitors whether it was with a single stand or an entire administration….
    When I say beast and most effective I mean in the Bigger Picture…Not likability…But more along the lines of historical measures…

    TR is McCain’s personal hero…Just like FDR/Truman are Hillary’s…POTUS speaking of course….

  • http://! Buzz Latte

    IT!

  • tzada
  • DisenfranchisedVoter

    It’s official. Michael Moore is a complete moron when it comes to choosing candidate who can WIN elections.
    It’s amazing how much respect I have lost for so many progressives this election season. Caroline Kennedy should be a deal breaker for many people. Obama NEEDS a politician with experience. Not some spoiled brat who has been privileged her entire life.

  • http://www.stillstacy.com Stacy The Republican

    Oh my. Apparently the entire Obama entourage displays arrogance. Telling an American how to think never goes over well. LOL.

  • btintaos

    Not to mention the fact that so many Barry supporters were miffed at the idea of “another” dynastic take-over of the presidency. The cure? Caroline. Good idea. Maybe if she changes the spelling of her last name, no one will notice.

  • Dr. Kate

    “it” is a perfect description of you SF.

    Go ahead and claim you’re not an obot but we have the records of your lies, stoopid arguments, and your usual obot hate screed.

    Go cheney yourself, troll.

  • workingclass artist

    Csuzeq….Barry didn’t WIN over HRC….So I think your just drinkin over being wise to the whole thing…chuckle…Being a texan I can only say that I have been admiring the tenacity of denial in the average American Voter since the MSM Newsporn touted GWB and his great experience as GOV. OF TEXAS….chuckle….Which in TEXAS DON’T MEAN DICK CAUSE THE LT.GOV. HAS THE POWER…

    KINDA LIKE VOTING AGAINST THE WAR AS AN ILL. STATE SENATOR..
    DON’T MEAN DICK….
    I’m hopin the stupid tend is waning like it did in the 90′s….We shall see….

  • http://www.stillstacy.com Stacy The Republican

    Standing on the outside, watching this whole thing, it’s something that leaves my jaw hanging. Senator Clinton is intelligent, experienced and has a bigger pair than BO ever could. Although I do not agree with her much of her ideology, I have always respected and admired her. Perhaps in the coming years, we’ll learn why the DNC made this fatal error.

  • workingclass artist

    Most of Oblowme’s Trolls have gone back to JEEZUS CAMP….Mission Accomplished….There are a few earnest GAZAN”S left…..lol

  • Dr. Kate

    the net worth as human beings is ZERO.

    No Soetoro, No MEchelle.

    They took advantage of everything America has to offer and have given NOTHING back.

  • Raven

    My very thought. Either we read of delegates being
    replaced. Attempts to replace. Accidents, illness
    or who knows.

  • http://! Buzz Latte

    Weesey had infinite more class and smarts than Michelle – I hate everyone – Obutthead!

  • PewL

    Sean Hannity will be interviewing that nurse,that held the baby that was pitched into the linen closet sometime this week..

    If the polls are down for Obama today, I can see them drop even farther after her interview.imo

  • workingclass artist

    The worst ting to happen to Michael Moore is that he got rich and stupid….He cannot even pretend to give a shit about the workingclass….Progressives as they call themselves have forgotten their roots….Have another venti local decaf no foam bull shit and piss on the lower class….OH BROTHER….
    Michael forgets that Peoria still rules and see him and his like for what they are….ELITIST AND HYPORITICAL

  • sfhillary

    LOL. The odds of McCain offering HRC the vice presidency, or her accepting if he did, are zero. Any PUMA who could conceivably imagine that my girl Hillary (believe it or not, I absolutely LOVE the Clintons; see my username) would run on a Republican ticket simply reveals how little they understand the Clintons. As for Lieberman: he’s a self-interested scumbag and would run as Mccain’s VP in a heartbeat. But as I said elsewhere on this thread, no Republican hoping to be president can be, or nominate, a pro-choicer. Cannot happen. All you McCain supporters are in bed with, and hoping to elect, a pro-lifer who is guaranteed to nominate the 5th and deciding anti-Rove vote to the Supreme Court. I know you will all yell about how this won’t happne — you’re wrong. If McCain is elected, he WILL get the chance to nominate a new Justice, he WILL only nominate pro-life judges and the Democrats WILL ultimately have to approve one of them, and an abortion test case WILL eventually make it to the Supreme Court. It is possible that between Roberts, Alito, Scalia, Thomas and the new Justice, there might be at least one vote to leave Roe as established doctrine. But I doubt it. On this and so many other issues that the Court faces, I think that you PUMAs, by supporting a Republican at this crucial hour, are working to push America into calamity.

  • Bamboozled

    sfHillary, you realy are upset that your candidate is going down, aren’t you? I’m enjoying it greatly. Don’t bother beating us over the head about how wonderful Barky is. We don’t buy it.

    I hope Oblahma got lots of little thugs to register to vote. He will need them after losing the Democratic base.

    McCain ’08!

  • Raven

    To my knowledge, no information has been re-
    vealed as to the nature of Rep. Tubbs Jones’s
    condition. Let’s all keep good thoughts for
    her and her family. She is a stalwart support-
    er and friend of Sen. Clinton, due to co-host
    an event for her in Denver.
    Yes, she did switch her support to OB, that was political. No need for snark… .

  • Kevin

    Ah, the “Tried and True”
    Rowe v. Wade card
    I admit, a classic tactic. Page 15 of the Gaza handbook for trolls, I believe.
    But, it doesn’t work here.
    Don’t worry, McCain isn’t going to pick Hillary, Obama isn’t going to pick Hillary.
    And if he goes with Biden, where does his high and mighty anti-war vote go?

  • tzada

    I don’t trust Zogby polls. there has to be a reason for them to report this. Zogby the polster is brother to one of Barry’s SD. This SD has an Arab magazine

  • LIsabona

    Comment by FIF; I agree with you.I never thought in my life,that time will come and I will vote for a Republican. I’m so disappointed of the democratic party,that i changed my party affiliation. I’m Independent and I will vote for McCain.

  • sjc-tx

    As we ALL know…, polls don;t really reflect reality… So let’s please not get too cocky. I mean seriously… Do you really think after all the carry-on and hoopla and hype of barky’s coronation that they will actually NOT nominate him?!! NO WAY! (they are too afeared of meeeeeshell)

  • tzada

    The Chicago Political Machine is coming to the DNC. Mayor Delany will be there too. Wonder if Tony R can come if he is chained t

  • hank48188

    Soros has been the Money-Man for the DEMS for quite a few years and they wanted Obama. These are the same people that brought you Jimmy Carter, the Internationalists. I think only 1% of Americans give to political Parties, and most of the are probably Republicans. So what you have is a few rich libs running the show for the DEMS. They didn’t want Hillary, she knows too much.

  • LIsabona

    Elitism or snob? To much self appreciation.Let others evaluate your intelligents. You had a good teacher ” smarty”.

  • NoTrollZone

    reported as anuerysm (sp?) by poster at Riverdaughter.

  • hank48188

    You mean this one?? “WHY AMERICANS HATE DEMOCRATS” How To Tap Into The Obama Factor. http://www.slate.com/id/2109328

  • tzada

    But he has thugs, otherwise know as trolls on the move.

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    This has probably been commented on above, but if so, it’s worth another look.

    RCP Delegate Count: Barack Obama 264 – John McCain 274

    Ibama is the ZERO

  • Doris T.

    I’d be cheering at the news, but it won’t make a difference.

    Barry has been cheating all along the way and we only know about some of the things and no one seems to care about that info.

    I have always respected and admired Caroline Kennedy, but how disgusted and disappointed I am to know that she, as a lawyer who wrote a book on Constitutional Law, has involved herself in the crookedness of Chicago corruption by tieing herself in with Obama.

    Ms. Kennedy is helping to vet his VP. Why doesn’t she vet Obama first?

    Oprah Winfrey has rented a house for $50,000 right near the convention site. She has a vested interest in Obama, and no doubt she hates to lose.

    Obama’s campaign has been reaching out to all African Americans Nationwide, who are not registered to vote, so they can vote in November. Wish I could remember the exact stat, but for now I’ll say around 2 million new voters although I think it was more.

    Here is my take, if these individuals don’t go to the polls, I bet someone else will vote in their place. Oh, it’s illegal and I guess I’m being cynical, but after hearing that deceased people were voting for him at the caucuses….I wouldn’t put anything past him. And for the caucuses people were being bussed in to vote.

    I said this on another site…..in the November election, Obama’s fraudulent tactics will make Bush look like a saint.

  • wonderwoman

    We told them. It was a nobrainer. Hillary got half the votes. I think even the Hillary supporters who say they will vote for Obama are still hanging on to see if he puts her on the ticket. If he doesn’t, he’ll loose more democratic votes.

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/?map=10

    Like a nasty virus, the Jokebama fad has run it’s course.

  • vinnie

    Now, if they would have included all those Germans in that poll, Barry could have had a lead. Even you can’t swing that Barry!

    Hillary is still an option SDs if you’re really interested in taking back the white house.

  • wonderwoman

    Even if he gates half of Hillary’s supoorters. She got 500,000 more votes. Where can the DNC make that up. I would love to know how many cell phone numbers Barack has managed get with this VP ploy.

  • American Woman

    I’ve been waiting for this film to be released..and I all I can say is…”Oh Happy Days.” I will never forget how Dick Morris promoted the film about Hillay and assisted in the distribution of the film at Nobama rallies early in the primaries…I for one can’t wait to see it.

    Thanks for link

  • nobamaever09

    COME ON PEOPLE, HOW ANYONE CAN SUPPORT cAROLINE FOR VP, WHY ??? BECAUSE SHE IS DOUGHTER OF JFK, THIS IS A BIGGEST ABSURD i EVER KNOW!!!. THIS IS GETTING MORE MORE SCARRY!!!
    OBAMA WILL GO DOWN WITH FLAME AFTER CONVENTION, REPUBLICANS WILL NAIL HIM ON ANYTHING!!!GET READY FOR THE REAL ELECTION. IN LAST DEBATE, MCCAIN BITS OBAMA A BIG TIME, ESPECJALLY ON TAXES AND RELIGION. OBAMA IS E JOKE.

  • nobamaever09

    msnbc,cnn, AND GET THIS GUY OF THE POWER!!!

  • wonderwoman

    The Kennedy’s are out of touch now with the country. RFK’s kids know the deal. But the others? JFK wouldn’t recognize his family. For all their money Papa Joe always crafted those boys as if they were like the average American(,all american family, playing football in the back yard,military service).

  • PewL

    Didn’t really matter did it,I guess they more of the Clinton’s than they do of the Kennedy’s…Since Clinton did win that state.lol

    Clinton for President

  • nobamaever09

    WOMAN,MAN,MIDDLE CLASS,POOR,AND THE REST IS UP TO BLACK, WHO STILL BELIEVE THAT OBAMA WILL HELP THEM. BLACK PEOPLE MUST USE THEIR COMMON SENSE, AND WAKE UP. OBAMA-MICHELLE WILL DO NOTHING FOR THEM , HE IS ASHAME OF HIS POOR fAMLY IN NIGERIA AND KENYA, BUT HE KEEP TIES WITH HIS CLOSEST CUSIN WHO IS MEMBER OF BLOODY JUNTA THERE!!!

  • PewL

    Didn’t really matter did it,I guess they LOVED the Clinton’s MORE than they did the Kennedy’s…Since Clinton did win that state.lol

    Clinton for President

  • wonderwoman

    He’s finished because he tried to rise to the highest office in the land so fast. If those people in Ill keep him. I don’t know what to say about them. He hasn’t done anything for them. He’s been running for president the whole time. I think he’ll leav onhis ow, he’s bored of the Senate-but this is the most money he’s ever made.

  • wonderwoman

    I’m black and I saw through Obama from the start. He’s out for himself. The only way he could get money,fame,etc. is politics.

  • Diana

    I’m Catholic and that’s been going around a lot longer than just this election. Along with what happened to Christian men, women and children in Kenya and them being burned alive inside of churches after Obama campaigned for his cousin there and he lost. Many of us waited for him to address it, call his cousin out for what was being done and to do something to stop it. He never did. I wouldn’t vote for Obama if he was the only candidate in the race. I didn’t think he’d get many Catholic votes and those are still the votes to watch and get. That’s why he went after Kathleen and Kain and why Kathleen will be his pick. He’s using her, had nothing to do with what she’s capable of. She’s a woman and Catholic. Too bad that’s just going to turn even more Catholics against him. He can’t cover up what he’s done by chosing a Catholic to run defense. Whatever are those radical left wing Democrats going to do when they find out if something happens to him there will be a Pro-life, anti-gay president to take his place. Oh that’s right all of a sudden he too is both. Then on the right we have McCain who wants to run with someone who is pro-choice. This is starting to look like an old 3 stooges movie. It’s hilarious! Oh my gosh by the time this is done both Democrats and Republicans will be crying for Hillary. ;)

  • wonderwoman

    Just look at the blogs. Sad thing is I don’t think they know people don’t like Barry yet.

  • wonderwoman

    Well Doris,Obama has lost the advantage of democrats by party id since June. So this 2 million isn’t a help.

  • American Woman

    Sharpton, said..it only takes one phone call and it will worse than anything that occured in 1968 which leads me to think they have a plan. I heard him…this was echoed by Dick Morris on many occassions..

  • Rev. Wright, can you fix my garlic nose?

    I actually assumed Kevin was visualizing the Obot flop sweat when he typed condensation.

  • DancingOpossum

    It’s a free country — albeit one that’s less free with each succeeding Republican administration.

    I know! Good thing our Democrats stood so strong and tall on our constitutional rights! Especially Obama! It’s amazing how they fought the GOP tooth and nail to preserve our precious Fourth Amendment freedoms, with Obama leading the charge!

    And the way they’re turning the convention into Religiopalooza 2008, well, Yippee for the First Amendment! Thank GOD they aren’t pandering to fundie whackazoids like those dang Republicans!

  • Diana

    Because we fell for it in 2006 with a bunch of empty promises and lies. Guess they thought we were stupid, and would fall for it again. But, unlike Bush we’re wise to their game. Fool me once shame on me, try it a second time shame on you. They should have known better, their ratings are in the single digits. Even less than Bush and they’re trying to blame it on Bush. Always with the finger pointing forgetting as they point one finger they have three more pointed right back at themselves.

    What happened to all the investigations? Lowering of food/gas/utilities? Getting tough with the oil companies? Instead things have skyrocketed out of control. Jobs are disappearing. People are loosing their homes and that isn’t the Republican’s fault. It’s the Democrats that have been the majority for the past two years. That’s our new DNC! Where have all our real Democrats gone…this is the question I keep asking.

    All we have left it seems like are a bunch of immature/childish thugs that would rather watch us suffer then to work together to get things done. Children playing on the school ground, each side wanting to be the bully. Those that want to do the right thing, to be real Democrats are where? Where is their voice? I’m not hearing it. Except for the occasional whisper that gets silent even quicker than it spoke. We needed Hillary to bring those voices from a whisper to a roar. We got Obama…the Republicans have been humbled. Hopefully they’ve learned their lesson, if not they’ll be brought down again. I guess now it’s the Democrats turn to learn theirs. Both parties better wake up and pretty quick to the fact they work for the people, not visa versa. It’s OUR money they spend. That WE work for, not them. It’s our money we spend on buying. It’s our money they spend when corporations do pay taxes, and small businesses, because without us there is no corporations or small businesses.

  • vinnie

    Dang, after watching that clip of that RN, I was stunned. She is articulate (not like mr. ummms) and will get her story across. Barry, do us a favor, get the f*ck out.

  • http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    What do you mean he got rich and stupid. He was always stupid.

  • TeaMug

    Should the Obama folks be concerned about conflict with Clinton supporters at the convention? Could that diminish the ‘bump’?
    Sure, what goes on at the convention probably matters as well. There are times when the conventions are a mess, and that really ends up hurting the convening party. Take the Democrats in 1968 and 1972, for example. In 1972, George McGovern came out of the convention running two points worse than he was running before it. Most people attribute that to the fact that the convention was a mess, with McGovern delivering his acceptance speech in the middle of the night. That said, I don’t think there’s going to be much real conflict in Denver. It’ll probably look more like 1988, when there was the whole argument between Michael Dukakis and Jesse Jackson–would Jackson speak or not? Despite the clash, Dukakis got a nice bump–just about seven percentage points–and was vaulted into the lead.

    Read more:

    http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/08/20/expertinent-why-obama-needs-a-big-convention-bump.aspx

  • http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    Okarma Slaps Obama

  • http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    Obama’s Pay Grade Coming Home to Roost

  • http://lnab.newsvine.com/ Linda

    I just wonder when a 6 month DECLINING VOTER TREND LINE for Obama registers with the SDs? of the brilliant people of the DNC?

  • tzada

    OT but important

    http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=156993
    Secret page on Obama site offers big tickets for big donations

  • http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    I wouldn’t vote for Obama if he was the only candidate in the race.

    Well be thankful the USA is not Chicago, because thats exactly how he got his start in politics, by getting rid of his opponents through technical challenges to enough signatures to get them kicked off the ballot, allowing the Messiah of Hopium to run unopposed.

    You got to love the New Style of Politics he wants to bring. Its not just and F.U. its and F.U. and U. and U.2

  • http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    Sorry, there is nothing hostoric about skin color. Lets get passed the silly color issues.

    If we want to be a truly post-racial country, then skin color should have nothing what soever to do with making someone president.

    So the 90% of the AA community voting for him….ask yourself, what has he actually done for you to garner that level of support? Does his non-record of non-accomplishments even begin to compare to the record the clintons have established in helping the AA community throughout their careers?

  • http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    50K on the table and a matching 50K+ under the table is pretty convincing to a person who works at the state level.

    Just ask Obama…he built a kitchen cabinet with 10K contributions.

  • Kelvin

    If I were you PUMAs, I wouldn’t start my victory dance just yet.

  • http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright
  • http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    Full story here – but its kinda old

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17927102/

  • http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    AS Carville said on TV, if you gave Barrack one of Hillary’s Balls they would both have two.

  • http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    BBBBEEEEEYYYYAAAAAAAHHHHHHRRRRGGGGGHHHH!!!!!!

    Nope. Not Presidential Material.

  • http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    Its above his pay grade because according to presumptuis budget estimates for the Obama Presidency, with the payroll needed for 300 advisors, he had to take a pay cut.

  • http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    No your just a Oballnuzzler troll who is so high on koolaid fumes you can’t see the cliff you are making the party jump over with your blind support for the inadequate incompetent untested inexperienced lying flip flopping sack of convictionless excrement you are foisting on the nearly destroyed Democratic party.

    Marxism failed. So will Obama.

    Get Over it.

    Try repeating this till you can say it without going into shaking fits.

    President McCain
    President McCain
    President McCain

    Also you might want to trade in that Che flag for a new wall decoration in the basement…

  • http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    actually the rate at which Obama is cooling with the public, condensation is more appropriate than the idiot realizes.

  • http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    But yes, I don’t just believe the Obamas are middle class: I know, according to a source I trust and to which I linked below, that their family’s net worth is just over one million dollars, including the value of their home. That’s pretty damn close to middle class.

    LOL. Ok you just verified for all to see that you are a moron who spouts figures without doing any research to try and prove your positions. Seriously get off the Hopium.

    Attention Liberal Latte Drinking Left WIngers. Please stop letting your imbecillic children on the net when you go to starbucks to get your daily dose of mocha choca latte with chocolate joojoobees. Its embarassing to watch the ignorant little 14 year olds try to defend Fauxbama.

  • http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    Prefix that with a “TW” and you got it right.

  • http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    I am still trying to figure out why Obama expects and preumes that it’s John McCains responsibility to prove that Obama is patriotic.

  • cathnealon

    shil
    If you read EVERYTHING then there’s no way that BO could be your man. You read what you’re told to read by your boss–the thing about the ‘Give Us Barack’ crowd is that they don’t ‘think.’They want symbols, they want hero worship, they want to ‘identify’, this almost diabolical need to identify creates a huge blind spot, they will not see the emptiness because they too are empty and he looks perfect to them.

  • http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    Obama is the Pope.

    The Pope of Hope

  • cathnealon

    Patrick
    Most of life is being between a rock and a hard place. Good leaders are hard to find and don’t come along very often but that doesn’t mean that choosing the lesser of two evils is a bad thing, in fact it’s necessary at times.

  • http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    Yes I am sure Obama will rocket back to a 37 point lead any day now….

    Kelvin…change your shorts i can smell them from here.

  • trixta

    How about Oprah Winfrey? Didn’t Moore once say she should run for president?

  • http://lnab.newsvine.com/ Linda

    6 month DECLINING VOTER TREND LINE

    Sorry kev… that you guys just woke up to what PUMA’s have watched and the bots have denied since March 30th.

    Obama is tanking! long, slow and ugly tanking… but tanking none the less

    I’ve always asserted, the more people got to know Mr. Obama… the more they wouldn’t like him

  • less than gracious HRC supporter

    Why not K? Are you still registering dead people and pets so they can vote for The One I mean The Zero?

  • cathnealon

    “victory dance just yet”
    Not ‘yet’ Kel but soon very soon.

  • AX10

    Don’t buy the hype. Ted Kennedy is the champion
    of giving scraps to the common man in order to maintain his “populist” image.
    Ted Kennedy is the HB-1 Visa kingpin in the United States congress.
    Bringing in cheap foreign labor is a big part of Ted Kennedy’s platform.
    Caroline, she is the typical spoiled little rich girl.
    Ted’s son Patrick is of the same cloth. Pat has a drinking problem
    and a DUI but got a slap on the wrist because of his family’s connections and name.

    Papa Joe Kennedy was the ultimate insider. He was a true elitist. He loved power and
    knew how to BS his way around the halls of power.

    The Kennedy’s also hated those “hicks” the Johnsons, even though the Kennedy clan
    had no problem taking LBJ to win the election.

  • AX10

    Which explains why that piece of c**p Randi Rhodes
    was all for the caucus’s. You cannot use intimidation in the voting booth. Clearly the Democratic party activists are pro-voter intimidation.

  • AX10

    I am with you. It is hard to vote against your party of choice, especially for POTUS.

  • PattyNJ

    No, Manning said “King Kongs Sista”!

  • Solidarity

    Yes. In a second. Honestly, I never thought I would say this, but I think that her ability to handle domestic AND foreign affairs is pretty much unmatched. Honestly, I had never really stopped to think about how much harder she had to work throughout her career because of her gender.

    Let’s face it, as a guy, it just hadn’t ever dawned on me how many obstacles women of her generation had to face in changing society. When I saw the way that she was treated by the two-bit media and sell-out DNC, I was furious. Plus…she was one half of the enemy:-) To make it worse, the disgusting acts were done in favor of a guy who wasn’t fit to carry her briefcase.

    That being said, I would hate to see her down ticket, as I think she is more than qualified to run the country. But I would surely vote for her as a VP. If she was particularly brutal when she decided to crushed the careers and spirits of Dean, Pelosi, and any of the other loons over there at the netroots, then I would vote for her at the top of the ticket as well. She earned it.

  • Steve

    I thought you meant Princess Caroline of Monaco. Would make as much sense as Caroline Kennedy, if you discount the fact that she of Monaco is no natural born citizen of the USA, but, hey, neither is Obama…

  • Steve

    Obama can tapdance and juggle while he raps his VP choice’s name, but still people will see Clinton, PUMA et al.

  • http://www.barrysoetoro.com Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    Obama the Teflon Candidate – Nothing sticks to him.

    Not even experience.

  • Anonymous

    The latest polls show that McCain has a STRONG 5 point lead over Obama. That’s a worse pre-convention standing of any democratic candidate in living memory.

    I think there is a STRONG possibility that Clinton, NOT Obama will be chosen, come the convention.

    Obama is LITERALLY, a loser. As in he cannot win. Not only can he not win, but there is a strong liklihood that, should he be fielded, he will actually result in massive gains for the republicans this election. It’s one thing to lose. It’s quite another to cause large numbers of constituents to lose faith in their party. That is exactly what Obama is doing.

  • karen for Clinton

    yet just another example of what a crooked sham his whole political life has been.

    one more ember on a building already on fire.

  • Katti

    Caroline Kennedy doesn’t hold a candle to Hillary! Hillary is the one we need for our country and people.Hillary as President,No less.

    Hillary for president 08

    McCain fro president 08

    Obama never.Not for V.P NOTHING-
    Hillary had earned it and we will not fall in line.We will not fall in line even as Hillary V.P No free past for Obama.What the hell was those tickets.He is just a puppet.SICKO that’s what he is.

  • Zeck&Linda4Hill4McCain

    Kill and Destroy)Who the hell does Obama think he is?LOSER OBAMA-You lay there and die along.Tiny babies Obama could not even stand up for the babies.Oh he is so sick! NEVER OBAMA.He is the biggest liar.He even lied on Bush as well.Abortion went down under Bush.And Obamas lied said they went up.When ask where did he get these figures.I,I,um .Well email was send a call was sent to Obama’s camp cause Obama said well call there and they have the information,They did.The camp said we will get back with you.Well noone has..Isn’t that the way it always works.They hide..and Obama hides behind his websire asking the people to believe.”Fight the smear’Obama can’t even face the nation on his lies.How will he or thinks he can run our country.???HE CAN’T

    Kill and Destroy)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdbYjmbFzo

    I will vote Hillary as president.I will vote McCain as president.Obama never.

    HILLARY OR MCCAIN.

  • PewL

    If the only way Clinton could save America from an Obama, I could see her running as republican,remember she used to be republican. If she thought she was making the right decision for her country, I would switch.imo I think Clinton also thinks Country first,but I don’t think it will go that way. imo

    Clinton for the nominee.

  • PewL

    It would be a powerhouse ticket. With Mccain having the knowledge of Foreign affairs

    and the Clinton have the tools for the economy

    No question it would be a PowerHouse Ticket.

    Maybe thats why Mccain waiting to accounce on the 29th after the speech from Obama.

  • PewL

    It would be a powerhouse ticket. With Mccain having the knowledge of Foreign affairs

    and the Clinton have the tools for the economy

    No question it would be a PowerHouse Ticket.

    Maybe thats why Mccain waiting to announce on the 29th after the speech from Obama

  • PewL

    Bill Clinton Supporters Not Backing Obama!!!

    http://news.newsmax.com/?ZK4vXqGmYiIIjaHiI0DGtBUZkQlftJR1Z

  • captainskippy

    Clinton Fan & NoTrollZone have it right, the Obama product is a glitzy empty package, the sizzle without any steak, so overeager and inexperienced and ambitious that he pushed aside better candidates, and now he desperately needs their help for his greater glory and power in the WH. Lots of folks are still buying his amplified oratory, but even my youngest child calls it empty crap, and not just because that’s my take also. Too bad many Dems worship the barehack ol’bumblur from the Chicago machine, but I just say no, never, NobHo.

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