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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, there is probably some evidence for DNC pull in a normal year out of a field of two or more competent, experienced candidates. I don&#039;t know, though, last primary season how much of a difference party backing would have made to voters who beyond all shadow of a doubt perceived Obama as sincere, or as having the passion, drive or desire to be president. We shouldn&#039;t forget also that Hillary made some key mistakes that cost her the early lead in Iowa.&#160;

Now it&#039;s too late to put her &lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;on the 2008 ticket and people are learning a harsh lesson about getting what they begged for. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, there is probably some evidence for DNC pull in a normal year out of a field of two or more competent, experienced candidates. I don&#8217;t know, though, last primary season how much of a difference party backing would have made to voters who beyond all shadow of a doubt perceived Obama as sincere, or as having the passion, drive or desire to be president. We shouldn&#8217;t forget also that Hillary made some key mistakes that cost her the early lead in Iowa.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now it&#8217;s too late to put her <em></em>on the 2008 ticket and people are learning a harsh lesson about getting what they begged for.</p>
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		<title>By: SeriouslySickOfObama</title>
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		<dc:creator>SeriouslySickOfObama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Once again you proved my point, insults instead of substance!&#160; And, talk about drinking the kool aid, you are drinking it by the gallons for your manchildnchief!&#160; Stop watching CNN, MSNBC and Fox and start reading what American&#039;s are really saying! Your childish comments bore me.&lt;/b&gt;&#160; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Once again you proved my point, insults instead of substance!&nbsp; And, talk about drinking the kool aid, you are drinking it by the gallons for your manchildnchief!&nbsp; Stop watching CNN, MSNBC and Fox and start reading what American&#8217;s are really saying! Your childish comments bore me.</b>&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: OBSP</title>
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		<dc:creator>OBSP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 21:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must disagree with you, Craig did not remain silent.&#160; As a good journalist, he did not voice a favorite unlike Chis and the other talking heads at MSNBC during the primaries.&#160; Craig is a regular guess on Imus and he was one of the first I heard asking about the &quot;high IQ&quot; and other questions.&#160; But Imus was on the horse station during that time and was not picked up by the MSM.
I am happy that he is not on the joke of a show and hope that others will follow in his foot steps. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must disagree with you, Craig did not remain silent.&nbsp; As a good journalist, he did not voice a favorite unlike Chis and the other talking heads at MSNBC during the primaries.&nbsp; Craig is a regular guess on Imus and he was one of the first I heard asking about the &#8220;high IQ&#8221; and other questions.&nbsp; But Imus was on the horse station during that time and was not picked up by the MSM.<br />
I am happy that he is not on the joke of a show and hope that others will follow in his foot steps.</p>
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		<title>By: Denise Comstock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denise Comstock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crawford was the lone Hillary supporter on MSNBC, you know the channel that bashed Hillary unrelentlessly, and Crawford was given hardly any chance to voice his opinion. I can totally understand Crawford&#039;s frustration...MSNBC was THE OBAMA channel, with the likes of Olbermann and Mathews bashing Hillary at every chance they got. It was totally disgusting. Crawford did not engage. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crawford was the lone Hillary supporter on MSNBC, you know the channel that bashed Hillary unrelentlessly, and Crawford was given hardly any chance to voice his opinion. I can totally understand Crawford&#8217;s frustration&#8230;MSNBC was THE OBAMA channel, with the likes of Olbermann and Mathews bashing Hillary at every chance they got. It was totally disgusting. Crawford did not engage.</p>
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		<title>By: califlefty</title>
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		<dc:creator>califlefty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always thought that Crawford was unwatchable, the most entrenched ideologue of the bunch. I didn&#039;t realize the water was rising on the ship so fast that they&#039;re scurrying off the upper decks! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always thought that Crawford was unwatchable, the most entrenched ideologue of the bunch. I didn&#8217;t realize the water was rising on the ship so fast that they&#8217;re scurrying off the upper decks!</p>
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		<title>By: Breeze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Breeze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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&quot;Neglected by &#039;lazy&#039; nurses, man, 22, dying of thirst rang the police to beg for water&quot;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1255858/Neglected-l azy-nurses-Kane-Gorny-22-dying-thirst-rang-police-beg-water .html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1255858/Neglected-l azy-nurses-Kane-Gorny-22-dying-thirst-rang-police-beg-water .html&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Neglected by &#8216;lazy&#8217; nurses, man, 22, dying of thirst rang the police to beg for water&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1255858/Neglected-l azy-nurses-Kane-Gorny-22-dying-thirst-rang-police-beg-water .html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1255858/Neglected-l" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1255858/Neglected-l</a> azy-nurses-Kane-Gorny-22-dying-thirst-rang-police-beg-water .html</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amy that is a joke. Obama was vetted like no other. They, including yourself, and Mr. Whitey Tapes threw everything they could at Obama. McCain was hardly touched. McCain has a very colorful and questionable background and no one even touched it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy that is a joke. Obama was vetted like no other. They, including yourself, and Mr. Whitey Tapes threw everything they could at Obama. McCain was hardly touched. McCain has a very colorful and questionable background and no one even touched it.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amy that is a joke. Obama was vetted like no other. They, including yourself, and Mr. Whitey Tapes through everything they could at Obama. McCain was hardly touched. McCain has a very colorful and questionable background and no one even touched it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy that is a joke. Obama was vetted like no other. They, including yourself, and Mr. Whitey Tapes through everything they could at Obama. McCain was hardly touched. McCain has a very colorful and questionable background and no one even touched it.</p>
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		<title>By: prime obot</title>
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		<dc:creator>prime obot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Larry, please feel free to check my IP address. Seriously. Go for it. I work off a laptop in San Francisco. If I&#039;m posting during the day (like now) it&#039;s my day job. If I&#039;m posting at night or on the weekend, it&#039;s my house. The deranged rantings about how anyone who supports Obama on this site must be a troll, a Democratic Party operative, whatever, are just manifestations of the embarassing Koolaid mentality that still marks too many people here.&#160; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Larry, please feel free to check my IP address. Seriously. Go for it. I work off a laptop in San Francisco. If I&#8217;m posting during the day (like now) it&#8217;s my day job. If I&#8217;m posting at night or on the weekend, it&#8217;s my house. The deranged rantings about how anyone who supports Obama on this site must be a troll, a Democratic Party operative, whatever, are just manifestations of the embarassing Koolaid mentality that still marks too many people here.&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: kenoshamarge</title>
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		<dc:creator>kenoshamarge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I quit going to Crawfords blog when he drank the kool aid. If he&#039;s in rehab, good for him. But for me, it&#039;s too little, too late. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quit going to Crawfords blog when he drank the kool aid. If he&#8217;s in rehab, good for him. But for me, it&#8217;s too little, too late.</p>
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		<title>By: sowsear</title>
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		<dc:creator>sowsear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember way back when Mario Cuomo was running for 2nd term&#160;gov. in NYS, whoever was running against him kept referring to him as Mario instead of Gov. Cuomo. Gov. Cuomo called him out on it. I guess this is an old tool of politicians. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember way back when Mario Cuomo was running for 2nd term&nbsp;gov. in NYS, whoever was running against him kept referring to him as Mario instead of Gov. Cuomo. Gov. Cuomo called him out on it. I guess this is an old tool of politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: creeper</title>
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		<dc:creator>creeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noted that he referred to Senator Clinton as &quot;Hillary&quot;.&#160; This man&#039;s conceit knows no bounds. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noted that he referred to Senator Clinton as &#8220;Hillary&#8221;.&nbsp; This man&#8217;s conceit knows no bounds.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guest, the kool-aid, is the one that you been drinking! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guest, the kool-aid, is the one that you been drinking!</p>
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		<title>By: Peggy Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peggy Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not so sure Crawford was silenced as much as drowned out.&#160; I remember Crawford as being one of the few MSNBC commentators who actually defended the Clintons, both Bill and Hillary, and spoke&#160;about the derangement in the press for taking potshots with little to no evidence.&#160;

Was he loud enough, strident enough?&#160; Perhaps not.&#160; But he certainly wasn&#039;t a Matthews or Olbermann [but then who is?].&#160;

Going to Fox?&#160; Hummm.&#160; Depends where they put&#160;Crawford or he&#039;ll simply be drowned out again.&#160; I&#039;m at the point where I don&#039;t like any of these news outlets; they all have an agenda and too often it has little to do with reporting the news.

Thanks for the update, Amy. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not so sure Crawford was silenced as much as drowned out.&nbsp; I remember Crawford as being one of the few MSNBC commentators who actually defended the Clintons, both Bill and Hillary, and spoke&nbsp;about the derangement in the press for taking potshots with little to no evidence.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Was he loud enough, strident enough?&nbsp; Perhaps not.&nbsp; But he certainly wasn&#8217;t a Matthews or Olbermann [but then who is?].&nbsp;</p>
<p>Going to Fox?&nbsp; Hummm.&nbsp; Depends where they put&nbsp;Crawford or he&#8217;ll simply be drowned out again.&nbsp; I&#8217;m at the point where I don&#8217;t like any of these news outlets; they all have an agenda and too often it has little to do with reporting the news.</p>
<p>Thanks for the update, Amy.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amy,

Not sure what Kool-Aid you are talking about.

It is likely all about money. Always is.&#160;Craig Crawford&#160;is leaving his contract only&#160;three months shy of his contract ending. That is a pretty good indicator it is all about money. He probably did not like his new contract.

Funny he is only now complaining about something Chris Mathews apparently said over a year ago. Seems pretty disingenuous. If it really bothered him, don&#039;t you think he would have left or said something a long time ago. Seems like he is just making excuses for leaving because he did not get the contract he wanted.

The fact that he said he was going to Fox, and then retracted, clearly says to me he is potentially jumping ship to FOX, probably for money. If he was so worried about working at MSNBC because he thinks it has gotten too ideological or too opinionated, then&#160;why would he go to FOX, which is so much more ideological. Seems like complete BS to me. He also made hints that he was only ever invited on MSNBC to talk about Palin, which he said was getting boring. That may be valid, but if they were offering you good money, who cares.

Craig Crawford is a very minor player. Hard to read anything in to what some minor player wants to do or even thinks.

This is a complete non-story. You are stretching Amy to find something to bash the &quot;left&quot; with. I could only imagine the politics and BS that goes on at FOX. For example, Murdoch&#039;s kids do not like Ailes. I suspect when Rupert is gone and the kids take-over,&#160;FOX is going to change big time.

Check this out:

&quot;Fox News veteran producer &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mediabistro.com/Gresham-Striegel-profile.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gresham Striegel&lt;/a&gt; has left the network, and this week began a new job at MSNBC.

Striegel, who worked 13 years at FNC on programs ranging from &quot;The Crier Report&quot;, to &quot;Your World with Neil Cavuto,&quot; to &quot;Fox &amp; Friends,&quot; was most recently the senior producer on FNC&#039;s second-most popular show, &quot;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mediabistro.com/Glenn-Beck-profile.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Glenn Beck&lt;/a&gt;&quot;.

TVNewser has learned Beck&#039;s team was trying to push out the veteran producer who newsroom insiders tell us was loyal and well-liked. But Striegel, who was turned off by the treatment, left the network a few weeks ago on his own terms and in good stead.

He&#039;s now an executive producer across the street -- literally -- at MSNBC where this week he has been producing for &lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mediabistro.com/David-Shuster-profile.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;David Shuster&lt;/a&gt; and will eventually settle in to overseeing two dayside hours.&quot;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/fnc/gresham_striegel_glenn_beck_producer_leaves_fox_news_for_msnbc_149002.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/fnc/gresham_striegel_glenn_beck_producer_leaves_fox_news_for_msnbc_149002.asp&lt;/a&gt;



Or how about this from a Murdoch&#039;s son-in-law:

&#8220;I am by no means &lt;strong&gt;alone within the family&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;or the company&lt;/strong&gt; in being ashamed and sickened by Roger Ailes&#8217;s horrendous and sustained disregard of the journalistic standards that News Corporation, its founder and every other global media business aspires to,&#8221; 

Read more: &lt;a href=&quot;http://nymag.com/news/media/64305/#ixzz0hb3pMxE9&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A Look Inside the Life of News Corp. Mogul and Raging Septuagenarian Rupert Murdoch -- New York Magazine&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://nymag.com/news/media/64305/#ixzz0hb3pMxE9&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://nymag.com/news/media/64305/#ixzz0hb3pMxE9&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy,</p>
<p>Not sure what Kool-Aid you are talking about.</p>
<p>It is likely all about money. Always is.&nbsp;Craig Crawford&nbsp;is leaving his contract only&nbsp;three months shy of his contract ending. That is a pretty good indicator it is all about money. He probably did not like his new contract.</p>
<p>Funny he is only now complaining about something Chris Mathews apparently said over a year ago. Seems pretty disingenuous. If it really bothered him, don&#8217;t you think he would have left or said something a long time ago. Seems like he is just making excuses for leaving because he did not get the contract he wanted.</p>
<p>The fact that he said he was going to Fox, and then retracted, clearly says to me he is potentially jumping ship to FOX, probably for money. If he was so worried about working at MSNBC because he thinks it has gotten too ideological or too opinionated, then&nbsp;why would he go to FOX, which is so much more ideological. Seems like complete BS to me. He also made hints that he was only ever invited on MSNBC to talk about Palin, which he said was getting boring. That may be valid, but if they were offering you good money, who cares.</p>
<p>Craig Crawford is a very minor player. Hard to read anything in to what some minor player wants to do or even thinks.</p>
<p>This is a complete non-story. You are stretching Amy to find something to bash the &#8220;left&#8221; with. I could only imagine the politics and BS that goes on at FOX. For example, Murdoch&#8217;s kids do not like Ailes. I suspect when Rupert is gone and the kids take-over,&nbsp;FOX is going to change big time.</p>
<p>Check this out:</p>
<p>&#8220;Fox News veteran producer <a href="http://www.mediabistro.com/Gresham-Striegel-profile.html" rel="nofollow">Gresham Striegel</a> has left the network, and this week began a new job at MSNBC.</p>
<p>Striegel, who worked 13 years at FNC on programs ranging from &#8220;The Crier Report&#8221;, to &#8220;Your World with Neil Cavuto,&#8221; to &#8220;Fox &amp; Friends,&#8221; was most recently the senior producer on FNC&#8217;s second-most popular show, &#8220;<strong></strong><a href="http://www.mediabistro.com/Glenn-Beck-profile.html" rel="nofollow">Glenn Beck</a>&#8220;.</p>
<p>TVNewser has learned Beck&#8217;s team was trying to push out the veteran producer who newsroom insiders tell us was loyal and well-liked. But Striegel, who was turned off by the treatment, left the network a few weeks ago on his own terms and in good stead.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s now an executive producer across the street &#8212; literally &#8212; at MSNBC where this week he has been producing for <strong></strong><a href="http://www.mediabistro.com/David-Shuster-profile.html" rel="nofollow">David Shuster</a> and will eventually settle in to overseeing two dayside hours.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/fnc/gresham_striegel_glenn_beck_producer_leaves_fox_news_for_msnbc_149002.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/fnc/gresham_striegel_glenn_beck_producer_leaves_fox_news_for_msnbc_149002.asp</a></p>
<p>Or how about this from a Murdoch&#8217;s son-in-law:</p>
<p>&ldquo;I am by no means <strong>alone within the family</strong> <strong>or the company</strong> in being ashamed and sickened by Roger Ailes&rsquo;s horrendous and sustained disregard of the journalistic standards that News Corporation, its founder and every other global media business aspires to,&rdquo; </p>
<p>Read more: <a href="http://nymag.com/news/media/64305/#ixzz0hb3pMxE9" rel="nofollow">A Look Inside the Life of News Corp. Mogul and Raging Septuagenarian Rupert Murdoch &#8212; New York Magazine</a> <a href="http://nymag.com/news/media/64305/#ixzz0hb3pMxE9" rel="nofollow">http://nymag.com/news/media/64305/#ixzz0hb3pMxE9</a></p>
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