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Healthcare “Right” Comes with Responsibility

Do you hear that large sucking sound? Those are the engines of wealth redistribution humming in Washington.

Let’s stop the bulls&%#! President Obama’s healthcare reform, much like many of his other initiatives, is all about wealth redistribution. Whether that’s a good thing or a bad thing is a topic for another post, but that is how I see it. I said as much in January (“Healthcare Reform to Make You Ill”), and I will repeat today:

Ultimately, the reform as drafted is a massive redistribution program.

The New York Times addresses this redistribution this morning in writing, In Health Care Bill, Obama Attacks Inequality:

For all the political and economic uncertainties about health reform, at least one thing seems clear: The bill that President Obama signed on Tuesday is the federal government’s biggest attack on economic inequality since inequality began rising more than three decades ago.

Over most of that period, government policy and market forces have been moving in the same direction, both increasing inequality. The pretax incomes of the wealthy have soared since the late 1970s, while their tax rates have fallen more than rates for the middle class and poor.

Nearly every major aspect of the health bill pushes in the other direction. This fact helps explain why Mr. Obama was willing to spend so much political capital on the issue, even though it did not appear to be his top priority as a presidential candidate. Beyond the health reform’s effect on the medical system, it is the centerpiece of his deliberate effort to end what historians have called the age of Reagan.

In this commentary, I am not looking to debate the economic merits or lack thereof of wealth creation over the last 40 years. I am happy to have that debate, though, with whomever would like it. Furthermore, I am totally empathetic to the needs and wants of the poorest in our society.

Time and again, we hear our political leaders declare that access to quality healthcare is a right, not a privilege. That said, what is the price of that right? Are rights granted without recognition or regard for personal responsibility? I am a firm believer that both rights and privileges are earned. How so? Personal responsibility. I will be the first in line to help the helpless. I will also be the first in line to call out those who merely milk the system.

As Washington enters my home and dictates to me the terms and guidelines for my family’s personal healthcare, I strongly believe I have the right — if not the obligation — to respond in kind. The greatest social program ever devised is known as the two parent family. Washington should be working harder to promote that program so the needs for this healthcare reform along with other wealth redistribution programs are significantly mitigated.

Go ahead and tell me, “LD, you can’t go into other people’s living rooms.” I will respond, “You have some set of balls saying that to me while you sit at my kitchen table with my new healthcare plan.”

One final comment. I strongly believe an unintended consequence of this healthcare reform will be a real decline in charitable contributions. That is unfortunate, but when people feel overly taxed, they respond in kind.

LD

  • iamcameo

    What a load of crap!

  • Doc99

    Obama’s just getting warmed up. Waiting in the wings – Immigration and Cap and Trade. America, we hardly knew ye.

  • trist

    The only thing I would say here, is exactly who is the recipiant of the redistibution? I don’t see the poor getting richer. I see the rich using the poor as the reason for redistribution, and a cover for them running off with the bulk of the middleclass money. Sure the poor get a crumb or 2, the rich have to have something to point to as to why this is happening, but this is NOT being done for their benefit.
    Sadly, it also becomes just another means to pit groups against each other along class warfare lines. While those at the top get to observe it all from their pearch.

  • Murray

    Mr. Doyle, it sounds good on paper.  And, no one is more outraged than I over this debacle of an administration.

    I must take issue:
    If the tax and welfare laws had not changed, my precious daughter would still be married to a beast and a bum, because she wouldn’t have been able to afford to manage alone, with her children.  This is why I flinch whenever I hear of the promotion of “the two-parent family,” which includes major tax breaks for married people.  (Translation:  if you’re not married, you’re just working to pay your taxes).

    I support healthy marriages 100%, but the Tax Man doesn’t differentiate between healthy marriages and dysfunctional slave-type arrangements.

    Also, you’re a little late on your prediction of a “real decline in charitable contributions.”  That already began with Obama’s new-&-improved Faith-Based Initiatives.  My elderly parents just discovered that more of their tithes are no longer tax-deductible.  Their pastor, as well as other church members, are horrified.

    Sorry for no links, but it’s easily researched.

  • HARP

    Hey, how’s RomneyCare doing these days?

    Since the bill became law, the state’s total direct health-care spending has increased by a remarkable 52 percent. Medicaid spending has gone from less than $6 billion a year to more the $9 billion. Many consumers have seen double-digit percentage increases in their premiums.
    Even more striking, the 2006 law has done little to ease the burden on emergency rooms, a central goal of all heath care reform plans. A report by the Boston Globe found that in the first two years of the program, the state’s ER costs actually rose by 17 percent. “They said that ER visits would drop by 75 percent, and it hasn’t been even close to that,” said State Treasurer Tim Cahill, who is currently running for governor as an Independent. “It hasn’t changed people’s habits. It hasn’t been successful at getting people to use less expensive alternatives.”
    According to Cahill, Massachusetts is still afloat thanks only to generous federal subsidies, Medicaid waivers and gobs of recent stimulus money. “I’m worried that now that this national plan has passed, some of that federal money will start drying up — that the feds might tell us, ‘No, sorry you can’t have this money because we have to go cover Texas now,’” Cahill told The Daily Caller.

    http://hotair.com/headlines/?p=76755

  • Larry Doyle

    I appreciate your point. I have a relative who is “happily” divorced and as such hsi one parent family is a LOT better than the two parent dysfunction he had previously. 

    My point is the one parent family right from the get go in which people do not display the necessary discipline prior to bringing the kids into the world. 

    Our urban centers are decaying from within and this decay is not only reflected in the lack of family structures but also in the schools and …sadly enough, the prison populations. 

    In regard to the charitable contributions, if they are already declining, then they will continue declining at an escalating rate. 

  • Touchet

    Of course it hasn’t.  Anyone with a brain knows, you don’t pay a lazy person to go get a doctor’s excuse to get out of work!  DUH!

  • Olivia1998

    :-E OPPS!  Per existing conditions for children doesn’t kick in until 2014.  WHAT????? Breaking news on Fox. They didn’t read the bill.

  • Always Learning

    . . . and now the Administration is scrambling to fix the situation.

  • donjo

    Sort of strange that no one on this site bothers to recall that this HCR bill is virtually identical to the one RICHARD NIXON proposed way back in the ’70′s. It’s essentially a republican bill.  Back then Teddy Kennedy was fighting for a single payer and as a result, neither bill got passed.
    Seems like giant crocodile tears because no one really understands what’s in this bill or what will be the long term effects.  Just something to bitch and scream about.  I’m all for Grayson’s Medicare buy in, as it appears to make the most sense and will save a s*itload of money.

  • lightacandle

    It’s a redistribution of wealth all right — from you and me to the giant health insurers and Big Pharma.

    Now the giant health insurers and Big Pharma will have billions of additional dollars with which to buy our senators and House members and control legislation so it’s in favor of the giant insurers and Big Pharma.

  • Boxer Mum 06

    Can anyone explain to me the children under 26 remain covered by their parents’ policy.. what if the child under 26 is also a parent .. perhaps a single parent.. does this mean their children are also covered under their grandparent’s policy?

  • Docelder

    Oops, there goes the “savings” out of paying for a 10 year plan that gives 6 years worth of benefits.

  • Buzzlatte

    Healthcare bill aside, the dems had to create something for Obama to win since he’s been an absolute ZERO as a president.

    The pressure today is to ferret out the dirt, find the corruption, get the players in this travesty and clean up Washington DC.  It doesn’t matter the letter R or D behind the name or the history of it looking like this or that from the past.

    Today’s perpetrators of the HC sham need to named, dealt with, and fairly made to pay for their behavior and negligence.

  • Docelder

    Good question. Bonus round maybe… just start over with a new 26  years? You know… so long as the mother never marries the father of the child. That would invalidate the benefits of course.

  • Boxer Mum 06

    I think it was a ploy to get him on Mt. Rushmore. You know that has been the goal since the primary. What better way than to say he reformed healthcare when it was in crisis. I never knew we were in so many crisis situations. I thought the D’s and media used to say Bush used scare tactics.. isn’t making everything a crisis no different?

  • HARP

    If evrything seems to be coming your way…..chances are….you are in the wrong lane.

  • Boxer Mum 06

    I was thinking the married child would also be allowed on the parent’s plan, they are after all the father and/or mother in law.. no? Why not cover them all, are we going to discriminate over marriage too? ;)

  • propertius

    Maybe I’m just not smart enough to write for the Times, but I fail to see how looting a trillion dollars from  tax payers and giving it to overpaid insurance company CEOs constitutes an attack on income inequalitty. Of course, I was also incapable of understanding how subsidizing the bonus class was going to eliminate unemployment, so what do I know?

  • Docelder

    Should have saved the resurrection for Easter Sunday. They could have had the bill look “dead” on good Friday, then a miracle could happen on Easter. Bots would have cried their eyes out. Damn, I would be more full of kabuki than even Axelrod I guess. Call me little ax I guess.

  • propertius

    Make that “inequality” – I think my keyboard is getting a little flaky in its old age.

  • Docelder

    Yes, because children of single moms will have to go to community education centers starting at age 2 so that they can be properly oriented into society. Married people tend to think that kids are their own to raise. Not so much in the land of ponies and unicorns.

  • Olivia1998

    Now I just hear the drug saving for seniors is not in the bill.  Frank L (the pollster) on Fox said there is 3 things Obama promoted that don’t kick-in tell 2014 so far.  OPPS! :(

  • Boxer Mum 06

    Right! I forgot about the community education centers.. run by former ACORN members no doubt! And they will need to bring their National Healthcare ID card.. similiar to a passport where you’ll have to collect stamps so at the end of each year, can provide the IRS agents as proof of your prevention acts to qualify you as receiving proper care and not subject to a fine.

  • Docelder

    How’s that Stupak amendment coming along? Suckers. Lie right to their faces and lie again and they still fall for it. Suckers.  :)

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Huh – so Boehner was right when he asked if any of the Dems had read the bill, they said YES, and he said, “Hell no you didn’t!”  I guess the proof is in the pudding.  They didn’t read the damn thing – just like we’ve been saying…

  • Docelder

    Makes you wonder who wrote it? But we already know that lobbyists for insurance and drug companies wrote it.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Spot on, Docelder – and then they exempted themselves (the staffs, at least, of the Congresspeople) so THEY wouldn’t be subjected to this unConstitutional plan…

  • oowawa

    I’m afraid the National Healthcare ID card can be easily lost; it will be much more efficient to scan the National Health ID implant, which will also have proof-positive DNA info.

  • Docelder

    It can go safely in the top of the right hand. Or if somebody were difficult and ever took it out then they permanently could bore it into the bone of the  forehead. That way having it in your head would also be a sign that you are somebody to watch a little closer. 8-)

  • Craig Della Penna

    While I agree with your statement about wealth ‘creation’ over the past 40 years… I think we disagree wildly about what that means. For me, at least, I have seen the plundering of America’s wealth by a very, very few plutocrats and the impoverishment of the vast majority of citizens. Great wealth has indeed been created (on paper at least) and instantly stolen. The Obama Health’care’ bill is only the latest insulting blow.
    At last you feel degraded and infantilized by having someone’s hand in your pocket, stealing your hard won money – yet you still blame the government! Wake up Mr. Doyle, the government is just the tool, like the old union-busting private cops. The people who are stealing your money are your Wall St. friends: United Health Care, Aetna, Wellpoint, Cygnus, etc.
    It’s hard to believe that you still don’t get it.

  • jbjd

    R3A, this was like the situation with the abortion procedure coverage in the proposed bill.  Assuming passage of the bill depends on this factor alone, do we root for a compromise or stalemate?  Here, which alternative will contribute more to a D defeat in the fall:  if they read the bill and left these provisions in there; or if they didn’t read the bill before voting for its passage?

  • propertius

    Testify, Brother Craig!

  • oowawa

    I’ll bet the analysts for the CBO knew that; indeed, it was probably one of the factors that kept the final figures as low as they were. 

  • Docelder

    I will bet the CBO didn’t get into validating that all public claims about the bill were accurate. They probably just ran the numbers given and kept their heads low.

  • Docelder

    Government is corporate owned now. Lobbyists are the dealmakers and  the corporations that hire them are the kingmakers.

  • Larry Doyle

    Thanks for the comment. 

    Perhaps you may want to review my entire body of work in which I have regularly and consistently called out both partners involved in the Wall Street and Washington incest. 

    Here you go…this should keep you busy for a while. 

    Wall Street-Washington Incest 

    Keep the cards and letters coming!!

  • Onofre’s arm

    Don’t you just hate it when your kids open their Christmas presents and find out they can’t play with any of them because they need the batteries that weren’t included?

    Don’t you just hate it when you warn someone over and over again that something is going to cost a LOT more than what they were led to believe based on obvious lies, and then they act all surprised and bewildered when it costs way more than you even warned it would?

    Don’t you just hate it when someone forces YOU to buy something they claim will only cost “X”, but when you get the bill it actually costs “10 X”?

    Don’t you just hate this administration?

  • beyond_words

    A note of strength for my friends..:

    I am the Flag

    by Ruth Apperson Rous

    I am the flag of the United States of America.

    I was born on June 14, 1777, in Philadelphia.
    There the Continental Congress adopted my stars and stripes as the national flag.
    My thirteen stripes alternating red and white, with a union of thirteen white stars in a field of blue, represented a new constellation, a new nation dedicated to the personal and religious liberty of mankind.
    Today fifty stars signal from my union, one for each of the fifty sovereign states in the greatest constitutional republic the world has ever known.
    My colors symbolize the patriotic ideals and spiritual qualities of the citizens of my country.
    My red stripes proclaim the fearless courage and integrity of American men and boys and the self-sacrifice and devotion of American mothers and daughters.
    My white stripes stand for liberty and equality for all.
    My blue is the blue of heaven, loyalty, and faith.
    I represent these eternal principles: liberty, justice, and humanity.
    I embody American freedom: freedom of speech, religion, assembly, the press, and the sanctity of the home.
    I typify that indomitable spirit of determination brought to my land by Christopher Columbus and by all my forefathers – the Pilgrims, Puritans, settlers at James town and Plymouth.
    I am as old as my nation.
    I am a living symbol of my nation’s law: the Constitution of the United States and the Bill of Rights.
    I voice Abraham Lincoln’s philosophy: “A government of the people, by the people,for the people.”
    I stand guard over my nation’s schools, the seedbed of good citizenship and true patriotism.
    I am displayed in every schoolroom throughout my nation; every schoolyard has a flag pole for my display.
    Daily thousands upon thousands of boys and girls pledge their allegiance to me and my country.
    I have my own law—Public Law 829, “The Flag Code” – which definitely states my correct use and display for all occasions and situations.
    I have my special day, Flag Day. June 14 is set aside to honor my birth.
    Americans, I am the sacred emblem of your country. I symbolize your birthright, your heritage of liberty purchased with blood and sorrow.
    I am your title deed of freedom, which is yours to enjoy and hold in trust for posterity.
    If you fail to keep this sacred trust inviolate, if I am nullified and destroyed, you and your children will become slaves to dictators and despots.
    Eternal vigilance is your price of freedom.
    As you see me silhouetted against the peaceful skies of my country, remind yourself that I am the flag of your country, that I stand for what you are – no more, no less.
    Guard me well, lest your freedom perish from the earth.
    Dedicate your lives to those principles for which I stand: “One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.”
    I was created in freedom. I made my first appearance in a battle for human liberty.
    God grant that I may spend eternity in my “land of the free and the home of the brave” and that I shall ever be known as “Old Glory,” the flag of the United States of America.

  • oowawa

    Don’t you just hate it when the assembly and operating instructions for the new toy are 2,700 pages long and written by a crew of lobbyists and lawyers?

  • HARP

    You know you are in trouble when you have lost Alfred E. Neuman.

  • daedalus

    9 straight hours of voting on the Republicans amendments and no major news channel is showing it!!! Why is that? Cause everyone knows the Repubs have already lost! They’re LLLOOOSSERRRSSSSS!!!!! Give ‘em hell, Harry!!!!

  • HARP

    “Senator Baucus has formally admitted that Barack Obama’s central campaign promise was a lie,” said Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform. It would have been nice if Baucus had admitted that Obamacare raises taxes on families making less than $250,000 before the day Obama signed the bill into law.”

    http://www.atr.org/baucus-admits-obamacare-breaks-obama-tax-a4690#

  • AC

    Reminds me of “The sign of the beast” 
    Where have I heard that phrase before?

  • HARP

    If you like wealth redistribution so much, I suggest you gather everyone on your street and pool your pay. This way the poorest among you will balance out. Oh and don`t forget to include those lazy bastards that won`t work.

    Ain`t socialism great

  • HARP

    I guess you hero is a real dufus.

    Oops: O-Care forgets to cover young adults, children with preexisting conditions

    http://hotair.com/archives/2010/03/24/oops-o-care-forgets-to-cover-young-adults-children-with-preexisting-conditions/

  • HARP

    Oh my….more of dufus

    Oh, by the way, O-Care lets states opt out of the individual mandate

    http://hotair.com/archives/2010/03/24/oh-by-the-way-o-care-lets-states-opt-out-of-the-individual-mandate/

  • daedalus

    And when and by how much are these taxes supposed to be raised Harpy? Huh? Whuzzat? You don’t know? That’s because you’re a loser!

  • Onofre’s arm

    Aw hell oowawa, the instructions are for wussies, you just need to make it look like the picture on the box, and then find a useful purpose for all of the extra pieces you’re left with.

  • HARP

    BWAAAAAAAAA

    Whine Whine……A little cheese to go with that. Such a dufus to follow a chump like Dali Bama.

  • Olivia1998

    Daedalus….It’s really sad you didn’t learn to read while attending school.  Then you would be able to read the bill for youself rather then repeating what your told.

  • daedalus

    None of you dolts have yet to tell me when the taxes are gonna be raised. Is it tomorrow, next month, next year? When losers? Tell me when.

    McCain’s amendment just got tabled. Try again suckers. Reid predicts reconciliation passes by Friday!!!

  • Olivia1998

    Do you have enough money to refill that subscription????  It sounds like you may need more soon.   Nancy and Obama messed up.  Left things out of the bill.  OPPS!

  • lightacandle

    The Tenth Amendment to our Constitution says: “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.” 

    Get that? If our Constitution does not grant a power to the federal government or prohibit that power to the states,  that power is RESERVED to the STATES or to the people. NO where in the Constitution does it grant the federal government the power to REQUIRE ALL the people (even those who never leave their beds or homes) to buy a product from a PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT company or corporation.

    Some will say the Commerce clause (regulating INTER-state commerce) in the Constitution has been interpreted to mean almost anything the government wants it to mean, but several Supreme Court cases have struck down such assumptions.

    If a person does not do anything, that person cannot possibly be considered to be engaging in interstate commerce.

    Never before has the federal power to regulate interstate commerce been used to require someone — who is NOT engaging in ANY commerce — to buy a product. We will just have to wait to see what the U.S. Sup.Ct. says about all of this, but it is by no means a slam dunk for the legislation.

  • lightacandle

    This requirement that everyone buy health insurance bears NO resemblance to the various states’ requirements that car owners buy car insurance. NO resemblance. And I wish people would stop seeing any similarity between the two situations, because it is a FALSE equivalence.

        (1)  NO one is required to own a car. ONLY people who CHOOSE to own a car have to buy insurance for that car.

        (2) The requirement that car owners buy car insurance is a STATE requirement, NOT a federal requirement.

  • Onofre’s arm

    The total contents and services covered in the 2700 page healthcare bill summed up quite nicely in song:

  • Onofre’s arm

    I know who wrote it Doc!:

  • getfitnow

    I  thought I heard ealier the 3rd thing is the adult child/parent policy was left out. I’m so confused. I could be wrong.

  • trixta

    Absolutely, trist!

  • Diana L. C.

    Agreed, Larry!  And I take it even further.  I have benefited much from my large extended family.  As I was growing up and still today, I knew that I was going to be able to depend in some way on many of these people IF i really needed it.  And, as I was growing up, I knew also that if I didn’t behave, it would be reported to my parents by that community of extended family and I knew I would feel that I had let them all down.

    That was my culture, however.  But it makes me sad when I hear people remark, “I have only two cousins, and I’ve never met them.”

    I know the earth can’t sustain everyone having large families as my grandparents did, but the way our families have separated themselves from each other by distance and lack of interest bothers me.

    In many cases, the people you refer to are people who have no families.

  • HARP

    Looking at voters who consider themselves part of the Tea Party movement:
    74 percent are Republicans or independent voters leaning Republican; 16 percent are Democrats or independent voters leaning Democratic; 5 percent are solidly independent; 45 percent are men; 55 percent are women; 88 percent are white; 77 percent voted for Sen. John McCain in 2008; 15 percent voted for President Barack Obama.

  • Diana L. C.

    I didn’t even think of that case!  All I was thinking about was how I did sort of like that idea.  I had one sone I did not worry about.  He had insurance through the college when he attended and then through the Navy until he was out and earning a good salary at a national steel company.  The other son was another story–there were a few years between the time he was off my insurance until he finally was able to get his own that I worried greatly.

  • Touchet

    Hope your enjoying that Ed hardy shirt you purchaced.  Soon you’ll have to use that money to pay for health insurance and medical expenses.

  • Touchet

    Racist.

  • Touchet

    Oh ma gaaawd!! Your all just sooooo racist!

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  • Docelder

    Socialism might be great, but corporatism is even more fun. We’re just getting started here. This will be everything the nuttiest of us feared and more. Grab your ass with both hands.

  • catfsh

    Actually the middle class just isn’t having kids like they used to. I am 39 years old, smack dab in the middle of the Gen X age group, and what nobody is talking about is many of us who care about the stigma of welfare and foodstamps are postponing parenthood until we know we can handle it financially, and often it is too late.

    Many of my friends had their first kid at 35. A few are having their first at 40. And a few had some snafus (divorce at 39) and looks like they won’t be having any kids.

    But the lower-income population, many of which may be very hard-working, are having kids. How do I know this? Look at the food stamp stories in the NYTimes – one out of every two children is in a family on food stamps.

    The redistribution the NYT is talking about is sucking money from the middle class and giving it to the poor. Nobody is talking about this.

  • propertius

    Actually, this bill is pretty much identical to the one Dole proposed in the ’90s. Nixon’s bill was pretty far to the left of this one. For example, Nixon’s plan was 75/25 with a $150 deductible:

    http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Stories/2009/September/03/nixon-proposal.aspx

  • catfsh

    Why did we not see these stories in the run up to passing the health insurance bailout bill? Total media blackout.

    And since Romneycare passed, the amount of Federal subsidies to MA has gone way up. What does that say for our entire country now with national Romneycare?

  • catfsh

    donjo please explain how insurance rates will not rise faster than they already have when insurance companies won’t have to worry about customers walking away anymore.

    Nevermind, you’ll probably get subsidized healthcare for a low income, so you won’t have to worry about who is paying for it.

  • catfsh

    Yes well 27 years old is the new 18. It’s all designed to infantalize our country.

  • catfsh

    I’m a liberal (or at least I THINK I am) but healthcare is not a right.

    Speech is a right.
    Freedom of assembly is a right.
    The option to bear arms is a right.

    But healthcare – sure if you want to self-administer healthcare, sure, it’s a right.

    But healthcare from a hospital? From an M.D.? Tell that to the medical students who are going into hundreds of thousands of dollars of student loan debt, that we have a right to their services.

    I am a Clinton Democrat. Both Clintons understood this. Healthcare is humane, we needed to mend our current system to make it more meritocratic and fair, but is healthcare a right? No. It is very important. But it is not a right.

  • oowawa

    Yes, well this will drastically reduce that painful “empty nest syndrome” when the tykes leave the homestead at 18.  Now we can have the pleasure of their company for another 8 years . . .

  • Buzzlatte

    Well, let’s start with the tanning tax of 10% per tan that started yesterday, Daedoodoodoo.

    Federal tax, under Obama’s watch, look it up for yourself, figure out who tans the most, figure out who’s going to be paying the most, figure out who got screwed.

    Bet it’s your age group.

  • donjo

    @ cat; Don’t ask me to explain this bill, I didn’t write it.  I’m not sure there’s anyone on the planet that can explain all the ramifications of this bill.

  • No Longer Banned in Beantown

    Sure, the poor will get watered down health care, at the expense of cutting medicade for seniors.

    And, where are the real Dollars going? Bailouts anyone?

    What’s a few hundred billion to people that can’t count to ten.

  • No Longer Banned in Beantown

    Nice try. There is a remedy called DIVORCE. And the court can enforce wage garnishing for child support, and keep mom and the kids on dad’s health policy assuming he has one. Deadbeat dads do not get away anymore. Unless they don’t work at all.

    The tax penalty is the reason your “precious daughter” stays married? If that’s the case she needs more help than what money will give her.

    And if she decided to have kids she cannot afford, why is that everyone elses problem?

    “major tax breaks for married people” in what country?

    There is actually a Marrage Penalty. Single filers get a bigger standard deduction than couples. Half a loaf plus half a loaf is less than a whole loaf when it comes to the IRS standard deduction.

    It’s a pittance and not worth crying about. It’s a consolation prize for lonely singles.

  • AnnieCarmel

    Furthe on the state auto insurance…the only real requirement is that you have liability to protect anyone else you might injure.

  • No Longer Banned in Beantown

    “the 2006 law has done little to ease the burden on emergency rooms, a central goal of all heath care reform plans”

    That was a hoax statistic. People that go to the emergency room are going there whether they have health insurance or not.

  • No Longer Banned in Beantown

    Donjo, You can’t explain the bill and yet you are Certain it is Identical to one Richard Nixon wrote?

    And Elvis helped Nixon write it, and Elvis isn’t really dead, and secretly passed on this bill to Obama using the FBI Drug Spy Decoder Ring that Nixon gave him.

    You might be right. Stranger things have happened. Obama got elected.

  • No Longer Banned in Beantown

    So are my fingers. But no worry, Obamacare will heal them.

  • No Longer Banned in Beantown

    Taxes get raised starting with the 2010 tax year. Title VI Subtitle A – Increased Funding, and Title VIII Revenue Related Provisions.

  • No Longer Banned in Beantown

    Thanks for banging my drum.

    Also, Amendment Nine states that the people have additional righs tha are not included in the Constitution.

    The Constitution limits the power of Congress to ONLY those enumerated under “Powers of Congress”. None of those powers have “health care”.

    Liberals say “The General Welfare Clause” give congess the power blah blah blah…

    There is NO SUCH THING as a General Welfare Clause in the Powers of Congress.

    We the People have unlimited, un-enumerated rights, not Congress. Those rights cannot be usurped.

  • No Longer Banned in Beantown

    And, Constitutionally, commerce is the purchase, sale and transport of goods. INSURANCE has never been considered “COMMERCE”.

    That is why it has been regulated by the States, and not Congress

  • No Longer Banned in Beantown

    The analogy is this:

    If you own a car, states can mandate you to buy insurance for the car. If you do not own a car states cannot mandate you to buy car insurance.

    If people that did not own cars were forced to buy car insurance, everyones rates would be lower. But that is not a valid reason to mandate insurance for everyone. Nor does the Constitution support it.

  • No Longer Banned in Beantown

    Significantly more women than men. That is an interesting statistic.

    Hey Harp, not to harp but, can you give me the place where you found the list of Dem Socialists? You probably gave it to me in other thread, but I have not found my way back yet.

  • Buzzlatte

    Here’s an article from 2009 that gives some names…

    Socialist List

  • elaine

    Larry Doyle, I think you’re right about charitable contributions dropping.  The  5 % more in cap gains tax I have to pay in 2010 is coming directly out of my charitable funds kitty.

    What makes this especially unfortunate is a lower cap gains rate actually brings more revenue into the government & Obama knows this. However his leftist ideology trumps what’s good for the country. I believe he had his agenda prior to the Recession & he’s not about to deviate from it. Plus billionaires Buffett & Soros have blessed  him in this reguard.  Also (maybe I’m buying into the hype) but Buffett seems to still care about the Country & I’m convinced Soros hates it.

  • elaine

    At the risk of having a tin hat screwed on too tight I’m leaning more & more toward thinking the housing crash & subsequent Recession were no accident.  If that’s true things will not improve because they’re not meant to. I want very much to be wrong in this reguard.

  • PA Caucasian

    Absolutely.

    The Rationing Bill will direct millions of new customers to the giant health insurers, who then with their newfound stash will jockey for position as Most Favored Insurer. As the smaller insurers are forced out of business one or two of the giants will be integrated into the public option apparatus, and it will be a similar situation to Fannie Mae, except in a different sector.

    And look at the condition of Fannie Mae right now.

    A friend of mine calls it Corporate Communism. So in the blink of an eye, we have moved from Crony Capitalism to an even more destructive system.

  • PA Caucasian

    Hat tip to you, Larry. I always look forward to your posts.

    I don’t get the chance to hear your radio casts, since I don’t have a computer at home! But hopefully they are archived.

  • tango

    Well if nothing else, they certainly took advantage of a crisis huh?

  • Murray

    NLBiB: It’s an honor to be slapped down by such as yourself.  (Not a snark).
    You noticed that I described my ex-son-in-law as a “beast and a bum.”  I wasn’t being mean.
    He lives “underground.”  The IRS has been trying to find him for years; no luck.
    Divorces cost money.  For slave-type spouses, money for a lawyer fee, even a little money is more than they have.  Getting a ride to a free lawyer, with kids in tow because you don’t have a babysitter is a logistics nightmare.

    If you can’t find the father, you can’t get child support, no matter the findings of the Prosecutor’s Office.

    Surely you are confusing “Marriage Penalty” with people who are “Married, filing Separately?”

  • Murray

    Also, my daughter is NOT still married. 

  • lightacandle

    Yes, the new health insurance legislation provides that everyone must have free preventative care, but I will tell you now there is NO SUCH THING as free medical care, no matter what they call it.

    A doctor cannot spend hours giving people their annual physicals and not be expected to receive compensation for his time.

    So who will pay?

    I guess, at first, the insurance companies will reimburse the doctors for their time spent giving everyone an annual physical, but does any sane person believe the insurance companies will not pass that cost along to its customers in the form of INCREASED premiums?

    I do not live in the same dream world some of The True Believers (the Obots) seem to inhabit, so I understand that doctors have bills to pay and payrolls to meet. They will NOT give all their patients a FREE annual physical, nor will they offer FREE preventative care.

    That will all be compensated by the insurers, and YOU and I will see our insurance premiums RISE.

    Count on it.

    You can take that to the bank.

    Too many foolish Americans think that all of a sudden 30 million additional people will be getting free annual checkups and free preventative care but costs will not increase. I have to ask what dream would they live in.

    I am ALL FOR universal medical care, but as part of a government RUN or government REGULATED program, and NOT as a way to REDISTRIBUTE the nation’s wealth from you and me TO the health insurance giants and Big Pharma who will now have even MORE money with which to buy senators, House members and presidents.

    Obama tells us over and over how awful the health insurers are, YET he will give them an extra GIFT of hundreds of billions of dollars a year of OUR tax money.

    This legislation is a gift all right — a gift to the giant insurers and Big Pharma.

    We WILL pay through the teeth for this “gift.”

  • lightacandle

    I had meant to write: “what dream world they live in”

  • beachnan

    Just like in the movie iamcameo-You can’t handle the truth!

  • CentralMass

    However in a system where you are not mandated to purchase car insurance, if you wreck or total your car, you can’t bring it down to the auto body shape and get it repaired or replaced on the dime of those who pay for auto insurance. Yet under the current system if you are unisnured you can walk right into the ER and can not be denied medical care that the paying insured will have to pick up the tab for.