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Psychologically, What Do You Think Made Obama Choose Joe Biden? [Update]

UPDATE: Something else just occurred to me. In the primaries in which Biden competed, he got — what — typically 1 to 2% of the vote?

Facts are stubborn things. In anyone’s book, Biden’s failures in the primaries to win over voters are empirical evidence that Joe Biden is NOT capable of adding voters to the Obama/Biden ticket. He campaigned and campaigned and campaigned, and yet what did he EVER have to show for it? Biden never — not once — took off. How in the world does Obama think that Biden will succeed with voters any better than he did in the primaries? Again: Why pick someone like Biden when you can pick someone like Hillary who is a PROVEN MAGNET for large voter turnout? It makes no sense. But, then, I don’t believe Barack Obama is using his brain’s center of reasoning. His unresolved psychological issues cast a giant shadow of his capacity for reasoned calculation of what is most beneficial strategically.
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I am not convinced that Biden’s exceptional knowledge of foreign policy will be an asset since that is a difficult attribute to convey during a campaign rally. Biden will NOT get a chance to demonstrate his knowledge in any of the typical campaign venues, so the average voter will never get to know about his background directly.

Aside from a few C-Span wonks, most Americans haven’t a clue about Biden’s experience on the Senate’s Foreign Policy and Judiciary committees.

Furthermore, to fully appreciate the depth of Biden’s knowledge, Americans would themselves have to know quite a bit about foreign policy, and — let’s face it — most Americans are sadly ignorant. They’ll be incapable of appreciating Biden’s grasp of world affairs.

Then there’s Biden’s state. Delaware has 3 electoral votes. And they always go to the Democrats. So Biden brings no electoral might to the ticket.

What’s left, then, that made Obama gravitate to Biden?

Is Barack Obama still seeking a father?

Is he still aching for the father he never had?

Does he yearn, like a little boy, for that relationship that remains alien to him?

We know he didn’t want another mother. We know he obviously has a strained relationship with his grandmother.

Psychologically, it would have been impossible for him to pick Hillary, even though she was the utterly logical choice.

Not only does Hillary have the requisite experience, she continues to demonstrate in polling that she is a formidable opponent to John McCain. Far more so than ANY of the men that Obama was considering.

This is the problem with having a candidate who, besides a lack of experience, has serious unresolved psychological issues.

Obama has proven incapable of being a John F. Kennedy.

Kennedy was mature enough, seasoned enough, and astute enough to get beyond his personal animus towards Lyndon Johnson, and he was able to make the politically essential choice.

Kennedy was not so burdened by psychological issues that he could not make the correct political judgment.

And he knew that carrying TEXAS was essential to his victory. He saw the number of electoral votes that Lyndon Johnson would bring him, and calculated wisely.

However, Obama is not mature, not seasoned, not astute, and remains beset by psychological needs that get in the way of his better judgment.

Obama was incapable of seeing Hillary’s assets in terms of electoral votes. He didn’t factor in her victories in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida, and other key electoral states. (And he probably resents her victories – especially Pennsylvania since he poured a fortune in campaign money into the state, and still couldn’t defeat her.)

For Obama, Hillary’s strengths are repellant. He cannot bear to have another strong woman in his life. He has enough of those already.

  • Ted

    Biden — the perfect foil for Palin!

    • Eidnoreid

      what foil? he was one of obama’s harshest critics in the primaries.

    • Taj

      Despite my deep esteem for Palin, I think you’re right. I couldn’t imagine her going up against Biden, let alone winning. McCain’s best pick now would be Romney. He has electoral (Colorado and Michigan) and financial strengths, and can easily debate Biden.

      • derridog

        No. Romney is another empty suit. And McCain would alienate all those Right-wing Christians he’s been trying so hard to pander to. Plus, many Democrats don’t like Romney. Where’s the upside?

        I think he should pick a woman. If not Palin, then Carly Fiorina. He would get a great many of Hillary’s alienated supporters if he did that.

        He doesn’t have a lot of other good choices, in my view. But then I don’t like Republicans.

        But if he picks Lieberman, he’s dead in the water. Republicans will be pissed and so will the Democrats.

        We’ll see if McCain is any smarter than Obama.

        Unfortunately, we don’t have much of choice here.

        • http://investigatebarackobama.wordpress.com/about/ kat in your hat

          Biden: 9,500 votes for President.
          Hillary: 18 MILLION votes for President.

          OMG.

          Unity? LIE.

          Biden? DUMB.

          • makeji

            He couldn’t pick Hillary, because if he had picked Hillary – especially now, it would indicate that she had won. Biden is the closest thing he could get to Hillary without choosing her.

            Frankly, I’m glad, now I will have no regrets over voting for McCain. Had he chosen Hillary I might have been torn.

            • http://youtube.com/user/NLee777 N. Lee

              McCain in 08′ Plain, simple, and fact. No regrets now.

            • dee4hill

              I agree, makeji. I would have been so torn. I’ve never voted against a Clinton and it would have broken my heart to pull that lever against her.

              Barky, Wind-bag Biden, Pelosi, Dean, Brazille & cabal are not worthy to breathe the same air as Bill and Hillary. Contrary to what they think, they just gave her the biggest gift they ever could – the WH in 2012.

              Two things perturb me, though – which was probably The One’s intent (to piss off Hill supporters.)

              1) That even today, he chose to continue his infantile jabs at Hillary. The 3 a.m. gesture was in character, of course, with his total lack of finesse and maturity.

              2) That he didn’t even respect her or her supporters enough to at least vet her. What a lying slime ball. Not an ounce of class in his skinny a**.

              However, I’m looking foreward to a stress-free Fall and a glorious November… cause he’s gonna lose it in a landslide without Hill.

              C’mon GOP 527s! Get the attack dogs out! bwah-hahahahahahaha!

              McCain ’08 – Hillary ’12!!!

              • http://BHOtroll mary

                Dee for HIll

                Thanks. Precisely my thought on this issue. This infantile moronic gesture to reinstal the 3:00AM call is another passive-aggressive misogynist dig by this rapper-wannabe whose skinny resume doesn’t qualify him for the White House Dog catcher’s job, never mind the Top Job!

                Remember his many barely camouflaged ‘misogynist digs’ aimed at Hillary?

                Precious’ Youtube mega-hit “Obama gives Hillary”?

                He rehearsed his infamous “flip-offing” of his fellow female senator, smirking and lifting his midfinger to scratch his ugly face. Then his “Periodically, she gets feeling low and starts attacking me…” bla bla.

                Biden and Nobama are both prone to verbal diarrhea and make gaffes. Great pair of dumbos the DNC is throwing in the boiling pot for November’s poisonous stew!

                Great column, Susan!

                Nobama is so much easier now!

                Watch youtube’s

                “PUMAs give Obama the November Finger”!

            • Amae

              Same here. No regrets, now McCain.
              Maybe Hillary 12.

          • Tyrione

            Quit worrying about it. You and the author need to be happy that Hillary wasn’t picked. The DNC will crash and burn leaving 2012. It’s a blessing in disguise.

            • Betty

              That is my opinion too!

              Hillary never sought high office for the sake of high office and I didn’t support Hillary just so she could attain high office. The people who wanted Hillary to dead end her career just to be vice president weren’t really thinking. IMO.

              Although I know what they mean when they say Obama should have picked Hillary if he wanted to win. And don’t for get just after the last primary Hillary and Obama met at Diane Feinstein’s house to talk. It was said later that Hillary turned Obama down flat.

              I believe that meeting happened and Hillary told BO to take a walk. Never mind what they are saying now about not even vetting her – they never had a chance of getting her to run with BO.

              Even if BO wins and gets two terms he is still a crook and most probably will preside over the death of our democracy. And who in their right mind wants to go down in history associated with that. Better to be revered as the last best hope.

              • IndayHill

                Before the tragic lost of a dear Congresswoman Stephanie Tubs Jones, another Senator Hillary Clinton’s Super Delegate will be missed.AP News: Excerpt: Senator Diane Feinstein, CA, will not attend the Denver Convention due to broken ankle. AP News last Wednesday.Her doctor advised her not to travel. She broke her ankle while taking a walk on a trail in a Lake Tahoe forest.”

                IMO: Attending/watching (TV) the DNC Denver Convention is hazardous to your health.I will only watch the Clintons, the real, honest leaders.After that, change to History Channel, hopefully, will be showing the DNC, during the times when it is for the people.Currently, it is BHO’s DNC.
                McCain ’08
                God Save America !!!

            • CountryFirst

              I’m thrilled he didn’t pick Hillary. First, she’s better than he is and her experience would have shown BO up for what he is. Secondly, I would not have voted for BO if Hillary was on his ticket. And, finally, I can vote for McCain without an ounce of misgiving.

        • CheapEmptySuit

          A woman for VP with J Mac would sweeten’ the deal. Not just any woman though. Carly would bring some class to the J Mac ticket in terms of economical wisdom and a bridge between the past and future. Yup a smart,successful woman on J Mac ticket and that would take him to home base. Don’t forget the Republican women were waiting to vote for Hillary and are disappointed that she got forced out of the race. J Mac does receive email and does take suggestions for his VP pick.
          But I tell you, this Biden pick is so uneventful. It’s such a non-surprise. On an aside, Biden’s son is responsible for Larry Sinclairs Delaware arrest.
          Biden joins the pack of losers. How many ties has he lost a presidential run?
          Hillary won. Skew the numbers, by any means fraud, kick her out when the fraudulent manuevers weren’t working-she still won.

        • http://BHOtroll sakel

          Derridog

          Yes. Carly would be ideal. But so would Meg Whitman of E-bay he mentioned at the Saddleback forum. He needs a woman VP to get the Pumas!

          One thing for sure, is that, unlike Oblabla, McCain’s campaign will be strategic and pragmatic in their judgment who to pick….

          Kennedy picked Johnson because he wasn’t suffering from OBAMYOPIA!

        • Dan R.

          You’re totally wrong here. Speaking as a moderate Republican who was really put off by Romney’s shameless pandering to the hard right in the GOP primaries, Romney would be, far & away, the best choice as McCain’s VP. Here’s why:

          1) The economy and his perceived lack of expertise in this area is McCain’s single biggest weakness. Mitt Romney knows and understands the economy and the financial markets better than any candidate in either party.

          2) Romney can deliver Michigan and Colorado, two of the six or seven key swing states that will decide the election.

          3) He will mollify the right wing of the GOP who still don’t have much enthusiasm for McCain.

          4) He has a ton of personal money and he isn’t shy about spending it.

          5) He looks and acts “presidential” and he’s a very good public speaker.

          6) He’s got the experience to be an effectice president if anything were to happen to McCain.

          Put that all together, and Romney is by far the smartest pick that McCain could make.

          If it’s not Romney, then a woman like Janet Palin or Kay Bailey Hutchinson would be the next best choice, since putting a woman on the ticket would peel away an awful lot of disgruntled Hillary supporters.

          I love Joe Lieberman, but putting him on the ticket would be political suicide because the right wing of the GOP would revolt. Same with Tom Ridge.

          As for Tim Pawlenty …. Who’s he? I wouldn’t have any problem with him per se, but I don’t see what he adds to the ticket at all.

          • CountryFirst

            I have no problem with Romney. As far as his religion, the Mormons I’ve met in my life are wonderful people (we’re not talking about the breakaway groups here, just like when we talk about Protestants, we are talking about the snake-handlers of Appalachia.) I agree with all the reasons you mentioned, above. I remember Tom Ridge from Homeland Security and I was not impressed with his ability in that capacity. A lot of people like Joe Liberman, but I don’t find him exceptional. I’d like to see a poll on this to see what other people think.

            • CountryFirst

              error correction: we are not talking about the snake-handlers

          • BEVERLY CHARBONNEAU

            EXCELLENT COMMENT. I, TOO, WOULD LIKE TO SEE ROMNEY AS V.P. FOR THE SAME REASONS, ESPECIALLY HIS ECONOMIC EXPERTISE, AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT HE IS A GOOD SPEAKER AND WOULD VERY EASILY BE ABLE TO DIFFUSE THE VERBOSE JOE BIDEN. ALTHOUGH BIDEN SHOWED HIS DISDAIN FOR OBAMA IN THE PRIMARYIES, HE, LIKE SO MANY POLITICIANS HAS NO PROBLEM “CHANGING SIDES.” I CAN SEE BIDEN AND MICHELLE AT ODDS, HOWEVER.

          • Hope Floats

            Mike Bloomberg would be a great VP for McCain or Kat Bailey Hutchison. My favorite is Olympia Snowe, but I know that would anger the base. Of those mentioned on his short list, Pawlenty would be a good pick. I read McCain’s polls improve in Minnesota by 13 pts. with his name on the ticket, and their media market feeds into Wisconsin and Iowa. I would be thrilled with a McCain / Clinton ticket. I intensely dislike Sarah Palin and Mitt Romney.

        • Darsey

          I agree with you about Romney. With huge amounts of money, perfect hair, perfect teeth, tall dark and handsome, no charisma, stumbled his comments, and criticized Mccain. He managed to win Michigan barely – did he even win Mass? But Hey Rush and Sean cannot see anybody else. What are they seeing that I do not?

          Huckabee on the other hand with almost no money, thinning air, crooked teeth but with sharp wit, succinct, on the point and effective answers ALWAYS -He came in second in the primaries. He also did not criticize McCain

        • Brendy

          I’m not a fanatic right-wing evangelical Christian so to speak (but I AM a Christian), and ROMNEY was my first choice for president. I’m against abortion, gay rights and I’m all for border security and against amnesty for illegal aliens. Romney stood for ALL the things I support and/or are against. So what if he’s a ‘flip-flopper’ – ALL THE CANDIDATES ARE! At least Romney flipped to the RIGHT side.

          McCain – if he has ANY sense – should pick ROMNEY….YES!!!

          I’m a Republican who voted for Hillary because McCain had already been chosen for me by the time my primary rolled around. I’m not enthused with McCain (because of his immigration); that’s why I voted for Hillary and I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR OBAMA!

          McCain/Romney! Hillary on McCain’s cabinet wouldn’t be bad, either!

      • Clinton Fan

        Romney’s a fucking IDIOT. Trust me, he was my governor, and he’s stupid as stupid can be!

        Hell, McCain oughta pick LIEBERMAN…first Jewish VP, say goodbye to Florida and NY!

        And, you’ve got that “bipartisan” bullshit, that “change” fever, working–Holy Joe would bring in a cadre of voting Dems, too.

        He also knows how to campaign. He has done this before–so has Hadassah. They are KNOWN quantities. Sure, he’s different…but we KNOW him. He doesn’t push any comfort zones.

        Lieberman could hold his own in a debate against Biden–they all know where the skeletons are buried. And Biden would have to fight a guy who wasn’t in the room (McCain). Lieberman can be awfully folksy, as well, and he plays gentle and humble way better than Biden.

        While the fundies normally don’t like social liberals, they’d make an exception for Holy Joe, because they believe that the JOOOOOOOOOZ (as they call our friends of the Hebrew persuasion) have to play a major supporting role in their getting their batshit insane raptured asses up to heaven. They’d probably look at the ticket as a sign from JEEEEEEBUS, or something.

        It may not be nice to play on peoples’ ignorance, but when did that ever stop a politician???

        Downside for Joe–if the ticket loses, he doesn’t get ANY committee seats. He’d be PUNISHED. Big time!

      • http://democratsforrealchange.info Dr. bobbi Anne white

        Joe Biden is 9 days older that Barry’s Mother.
        She was born 11/29/42; Joe was born 11/20/42
        He’s still searching for a parent image.
        Bad choice as Joe has serious health issues. He had 2 brain aneurysms in 1977

        • Jack

          Maybe that explains O copying B’s “pay grade” comment.

          • Hope Floats

            ORLY! I hope Joe Biden keeps coaching him in debates then.

    • alibe4Hillary

      Is this the quid pro quo for Biden? Joe Biden must have called his son, Beau, the Delaware Attorney General, to arrest Larry Sinclair in DC at his Press Conference in the Washington Press Club. It was a very strange arrest, since Larry Sinclair did not have any outstanding warrants, yet alone in Delaware.
      He was released in a day or so. I figured Biden had something to do with that charade. Now we know why!

    • http://BHOtroll sakel

      Biden, perfect for Obama? Are you kidding me?

      Biden said this about BHO during the primary:

      “I believe he can be ready but NOW I don’t think he is ready! And I stand by this statement” !

      “The Presidency does not lend itself to on-the-job training”

      “I would be honored to run or against Sen. McCain.”

      Biden’s well known logorrhea (verbal diarrhea) will be magnifying the equally nauseating Obamarrhea!
      God help us!

      He snubbed Hillary twice now–to his fatal detriment. BHO should team up with his Sharia Law cousin Odinga in Kenya. He’d make a great V-P there, as his presidential fortunes have just evaporated with his latest Obamyopic move!

      Listen to Biden’s statement above–McCain’s gang is already starting to use it against him! How imbecilic can Obamyopia be?

      The Pumas agree with Sen. Biden’s assessment of Obamarama’s “not ready to be president (cause) the Presidency does not lend itself to on-the-job training”

      Pumas are with you Biden on this!

      • Hope Floats

        Did somebody say Sharia Law? That calls for The People’s Karaoke.

        (Sing to the tune of My Cherie Amour by Stevie Wonder)

        La la la la la la
        La la la la la la

        My Sharia Law, all the infidels must pay
        My Sharia Law, said that I must kill all gays
        My Sharia Law, Jews and Christians we abhor
        Without a burqa she’s a whore
        To kill for Allah is not a crime.

        In a cafe or sometimes on a crowded street
        I’ve been near you, but you never notice me
        My Sharia Law don’t you tell me how could they ignore
        That behind that little smile I wore
        I explode an improvised mine

        Maybe someday I’ll plant one in a great big crowd
        Maybe someday It’ll be more than a mushroom cloud
        Oh, Sharia Law, think of all the blood and gore
        You’re the only law my heart beats for
        And bring about the end of time.

        La la la la la la
        La la la la la la

  • Objective analysis

    Obama not the One, but THE IDIOT!

    puma 2008

    • workingclass artist

      Hmmmm…..Well I think Biden helps Barry kill 2 birds with a single cathartic stone….chuckle….
      Biden = Older Guy as Daddy
      Biden = Cracker to help Barry Soterobama with his OBVIOUS CONFLICT WITH HIS INNER CRACKER THAT BARRY HAS BEEN STRUGGLIN WITH HIS WHOLE LIFE

      *** I THINK BARRY AND DADDY JOE NEED A CAMPIN TRIP….chuckle ***

      • HARP

        They are both very clean don`t you think.

        • beebop

          hahahahahahahahahahaha

          And articulate! :)

          • http://BHOtroll mary

            New York Daily news had a story about Biden suffering from logorrhea (verbal profusion) similar if not worse than Oblabla’s and also he has made many gaffes including calling Obblabla “clean articular AfricanAmerican…”

            We’re set to see many verbal gaffes by Biden matching Oblabla’s own marathon speeches from hell!

            Dream Ticket and Winner of the Verbal Diarrhea Award ’08

            Obama-Biden ’08 The Ex-Lax Experts

        • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

          LOL harp.

      • Jim S

        Sure, Brokeback Mountain redux.

        • fooj

          Bingo.

        • okasha skatsi

          Please do not make insinuations that people you don’t like are gay. It insults real LGBT people. There’s been enough of that from Obama and his minions already.

          • derridog

            I absolutely agree with okasha!

          • http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/080820_NBC-WSJ_Released.pdf trixta

            Okasha, I totally agree! We have to call out bigotry when it comes up on this or any other site.

          • http://BHOtroll mary

            Agree with Okasha 100%

            Why imitate the homophobic, misogynistic, racist Obama Campaign standard insults!?

            Obama Himself has never been honest with his own genderic confusion and torn (bi)sexual identity. I feel that’s another reason for Susan’s excellent psychological assessment of Barry here.
            At least Larry Sinclair was honest about his short fling with Obama and Biden’s son arrested him prompty at the Press Club….

        • http://dontcallmesweetie.blogspot.com/ Blu

          Using “gay” as the all purpose insult is really getting old.

          • workingclass artist

            When I was implying a campout….I meant a daddy/ son campout…mkay
            I support Gay rights and my twin bro is gay as well as many friends…
            I was talkin about Barry’s search for a daddy….

            • http://dontcallmesweetie.blogspot.com/ Blu

              Sorry for the confusion wc artist, I was replying to the comment by Jim S

              Sure, Brokeback Mountain redux.

      • TeakwoodKite

        ah well…ummm..ahhhh…

        I knew it! Thats why BO picked him. It’s all those ahhh’s and ummm’s they have in common.

        BO, who’s your daddy?

        I voted for Biden in the primary’s. I won’t vote for BO, regardless of who he “picks” as VP.
        ——
        Just this AM, a really neat woman in our area who canvasses door to door for local candidates, who is a preacher, and I just had an interesting conversation.

        She was stumping for a 3rd district supervisor…I asked if this candidate supports BO. She didn’t know, she and I, turns out, supported Senator Clinton.

        She said she grew up on Chicago and was aware of how that place works.
        I asked her if she knew about the slumlord Rezko and BO’s 20 year relationship.

        Nope.

        I asked her if she was aware of how money was funneled thru TUCC and St Sabina to groups such as ACORN.

        NOPE.

        SusanUnPC made a comment that ” let’s face it — most Americans are sadly ignorant.” Proir to talking with this very bright woman, I strongly disagreed with this comment.

        After talking to her…I must admit SusanUnPC…I must concede the point.

        I gave NQ’s web address and asked her to check out the archives and current articles…

    • roseeriter

      Many of the Dems like Pelosi, Reid etc., were pretty pissed off at the extreme left for pushing Impeachment, blaming the dems for the war also etc.,- what better payback to the wingnut part of the liberal agenda than to swing Obama center.

      Pox on wingnuts is my guess.

  • Anon 1

    This election is about the economy and energy. John Mccain needs someone strong on that front. And if he finds a smart woman, that would even be better.

    Obama ran on chnge. Joe Biden is a pick of desparation.

    • Obama/Biden 2008

      THE VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN ACT

      Ending Violence Against Women: Senator Biden wrote the ground-breaking Violence Against Women Act (VAWA) in the 1990s that set the national agenda on criminalizing violence against women and holding batterers truly accountable. It encouraged states to set up coordinated community responses to domestic violence and rape; was the catalyst for passage of hundreds of state laws prohibiting family violence; and provided resources to set up shelters so battered women abused by husbands and boyfriends had a place to go. The law also established the national hotline that over 1.5 million abused women have called for help. By empowering women to make changes in their lives, and by training police and prosecutors to arrest and convict abusive husbands instead of telling them to take a walk around the block, domestic violence is down 50 percent and rape is down 60 percent nationwide.

      Each time the Senator renewed the Act – in 2000 and 2005 – he pushed for new initiatives. In 2000, the Act was attached to ground-breaking laws on human trafficking – crimes where over 80% of the victims are women. In 2005, the Violence Against Women Act tackled issues like domestic violence in public housing and treating children witnesses of family violence. Click here for more information on the Violence Against Women Act of 2005.

      • Eidnoreid

        ironic, considering he’s obama’s vp.

      • mimi

        So!

        • mimi

          And I’ll add this, he can stay in the Senate and keep doing the good he’s done for women’s issues.

          That is, if he gets elected fooling around with 0bama.

      • missE

        OGLETREE: (Senator Biden) doesn’t understand that by sitting back and taking no position that he has encouraged the victimization of Anita Hill. She has civil rights and civil liberties, too. She wasn’t applying for a lifetime appointment on the Supreme Court. She was not coming forward with an agenda to change the landscape of America.

        And what will the folks who trashed Geraldine Ferraro say about this?

        BIDEN: “I think that the only reason Clarence Thomas is on the Court is because he is black. I don’t believe he could have won had he been white. And the reason is, I think it was a cynical ploy by President Bush.”

        http://www.aliciapatterson.org/APF1602/Graves/Graves.html

      • beebop

        Not really very military friendly …..

        Right around the time Biden and his fellow Democrats launched their Rumsfeld attack, the Defense Department released a study showing that an inordinately high number of military recruits were being disqualified from service in Iraq because of debt problems, often resulting from so-called “payday loans,” i.e. very high-interest loans made between paychecks by predatory lenders who set up show outside military bases.

        The study made the front page of USA Today and was briefly a media sensation, with many commentators noting the injustice of a system that allows credit companies to prey upon young men and women about to serve in the Iraq bloodbath. Making matters worse was the fact that Congress voted specifically to deny debt protection to servicemen a year and a half ago.

        Back in early 2005, Senator Dick Durbin proposed an amendment to the infamous S. 256, the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005 ?- better known as the Bankruptcy Bill, a law pushed by credit companies which made it more or less impossible to declare bankruptcy.

        Durbin’s amendment, called the G.I. Protection Amendment, would have exempted U.S. servicemen and women from the so-called “means test,” a procedure which under the new law every bankruptcy aspirant must submit to before he is allowed to sue for bankruptcy. It also would have protected soldiers from losing their homes to creditors during their deployments, and would have offered some debt protections to the spouses of slain servicemen. It also would have offered some protections to soldiers in trouble because of payday loans.

        Now, the logic of this amendment seemed unassailable. Soldiers sent to war often end up in financial trouble, and reservists sent to war for long deployments have it even worse, often seeing their small businesses fail or bills pile up while they trade in their normal salaries for meager Army wages. It seems like a small concession to make to soldiers to offer some relief on these fronts, in exchange for asking them to risk their necks for some pointless military adventure dreamed up by a bunch of half-wit Ivy League trust-fund babies who’ll never go broke and whose kids will never serve.

        So Durbin’s amendment made sense, but of course it died, 62-38. Most of the Republicans voted against it, but they weren’t alone. Some Democrats voted nay, too, including that great old friend of the credit industry, Joe Biden.

      • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

        Who was it that said the office of the VP is worth a bucket of warm spit?

        I don’t care what Biden did or can do, he can’t do it because if that ticket won, he would be nothing short of decoration. The real decisions are made by the President of the United States and I do not trust Barack Obama with my country. I do not trust barack Obama with my life. And I REALLY do not trust him with my rights as a woman.

        Now if this ticket were reversed, I might talk. Then we could all get to watch what Barack Obama really is, or maybe not even then. The fact is, barack Obama could pick my mother as his VP and I still would never vote for him. He has far too many unsavory friends to suit me. People I (and YOU) would NEVER invite to my home.

        • Seattle Moss

          Without googling..
          Jake Garner…Texan who was FDR vice President

      • Kelley

        Yeah, a man who makes a show of support for women instead of an actual, better qualified, WOMAN

        JOKE

        • apishapa

          I hope you don’t think Biden has been a friend to women. Does no one remember Anita Hill and who led the charge of 14 men who attacked her nonstop for daring to accuse a judge of harassment?

      • verminme

        Biden- Chairman of the Judiciary Committee hearings during Anita Hill/ Thomas hearing where he allowed all of his “good friends” including Teddy Kennedy ,ever on the defense after his own woman problems, to BRUTALIZE her. Get your head out of your ass re: Biden’s defense of women. Propossing legislation or even passing unenforced legislation is no substitute for stepping up and actally DOING something when you have the power to do it.

      • beverly leslie

        Where was he during the primary season when there was an extreme act of violence against women? He, like the rest of the DNC had their mouths shut.

        • http://BHOtroll memi

          Beverly leslie

          Yes! Where were these misogynist morons when the media misogynist frat-boys’ agenda pushed a gender-confused megalomaniac with narcissistic personality disorder to a fraudulent ‘finish’ line of superdels?

          When Obblabla was brutalizing HIllry daily on CNN, MSNBC, and throughout MSM Obama did not just keep Silent himself. He joined in the brutalization and genderic holocaust waged against ONE WOMAN would would be president.

          Obama’s (mostly) camouflaged misogyny was evident throughout, in his youtube mega hit “Obama gives HIllary teh Finger”, his ugly sexist statements and now his 3:00 am immature act of further Hillary-bashing!

          Biden is another misogynist and Anita HIll was his victim by not disclosing crucial evidence impacting on the then vital issues in her lawsuit against that sexist pig Clarence Thomas whom the Senior Bush moron appointed without even a law degree on his resume!

          Thomas was appointed and he never got his law degree. And now, the fools want the voters to give the Top Job to another sexist (gender-confused) skinny pig (BHO) whose anorexic resume is even thinner than Ludacris’ talent for woman-bashing in his lyrics….

          Biden was right “OBama is not ready to be president. the Presidency does not lend itself to on the job training”! Right on, twin loser!

      • Jamier

        the hypocritical Odrama!

      • alexei

        Did you forget what Biden did against Anita Hill? So, I don’t believe that bill has made up for the real sexism that he showed in Thomas’ Senate confirmation.

        He also is the consummate Corporatist (Mr. MBNA) and was a catalyst for that horrendous bankruptcy bill. Quintessential Mr. Washington and K St lobbyist. So, where is that change Soetoro promised? Where is that fight against lobbyists and Washington insiders? LOL – typical Chicago style pol has now got his typical Washington pol. They also are both plagiarists. Yep, change you can believe in.

      • http://BHOtroll mary

        Obama-biden ’08

        So what? Biden voted in favour of what HIllary Clinton has been fighting for over 4 decades!

        And you want us to be impressed with Biden’s self-serving agenda? Come on now!

        HIllary can teach Biden all he wants to know about Violence against Women in the States and all over the world. Ask Joe if he know of HIllary’s speech in ’95 in Bejing!

        Go sell Biden’s political tupperware next door. We ain’t buying any.

        Pumas ’08

      • Nellie

        Biden was also a lapdog for Banks, Soros, Pritzkers and others. Thanks to Biden we have predatory lending rates for homes, credit cards, and student loans which directly afeects my grandson.

        Barry voted AGAINST puting a cap on interest rates. Susan wrote that up back in January/February this year.

      • CountryFirst

        I’m greatful of his accomplishments on behalf of women. Too bad he grabbed on to the wrong coat tails this time.

      • http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/080820_NBC-WSJ_Released.pdf trixta

        I like JB, but so what? It’s still the most boring and uninspired ticket ever. I think if McCain has a woman as VP the election will be a landslide in his favor.

        Any way you cut it, Obama’s VP pick just makes him look small. Had he picked Hillary he could have demonstrated that he was indeed above politics! (BTW, I’m so glad he didn’t pick HRC for her own sake, and because it’ll make voting for McCain that much easier in November.)

      • HRocks

        Though Biden authored the Violence Against Women Act, Hillary helped create the office that instituted the act.
        Office on Violence Against Women
        From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

        The Office on Violence Against Women (OVW) was founded in 1995 by Attorney General of the United States Janet Reno and First Lady of the United States Hillary Rodham Clinton. The Violence Against Women Office is a part of the United States Department of Justice that deals with violence against women, specifically implementing “the mandates of the Violence Against Women Act and subsequent legislation”[1].

    • Carol

      BO could have picked his wife, Michelle, to be his VP, that would have been the change we all have been looking for. Hahahahaha

    • rw

      Biden is too commendable a Senator to be on the ticket behind such a lightweight. It is embarrassing. Why he agreed is beyond me. Might have been forced. Anyone that associates him/herself with Obama becomes a joke, IMO. But, I do hope Biden survives this.

      Reason he picked Biden, the ans. might be this Gallup headlines:

      ‘Barack Obama receives less support from Democratic voters than John McCain does from Republicans. Convention week and his V.P. pick could be crucial in changing that.’

      but I doubt it will make much of a difference, because the DNC STILL DOES NOT GET IT: the CHOSEN nominee is FLAWED, and he is not the people’s choice, he is the DNC CHOICE.

      • Alice

        Absolutely right on point — couldn’t have said it better. If I were Biden, I would be ashamed to be his running mate. They are going down in the biggest landslide in history. It is unbelievable that the DNC is so stupid. THey are handing the election to John McCain on a silver platter. I hope the Republicans attack Obama with everything they’ve got — everything the DNC and MSM already know but have tried to cover up. Just how stupid do they think mainstream Americans are???

        • Amabo Kcarab

          The very capable Republicans will make sure all of the voting citizens are aware of Senator Obama’s past and of his present by early November. Those of us who have read NQ articles these last few months will not be surprised. (Well, maybe a couple of surprises–the good Senator seems to be an ongoing source of revelation…)

      • Leisa

        This mirrors Bush/Cheney to me. I think that Americans fell for the idea of a strong VP making up for a weak POTUS candidate and we learned that to doesn’t mean squat.

        This campaign looks more like Bush III all the time.

        • http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/080820_NBC-WSJ_Released.pdf trixta

          Leisa, my thoughts exactly–which supports my theory that the DNC wanted our version of GWB all along. Obama is just the flip side of the same fascist coin: Neo Liberal/Neo Con—take your pick cause the status quo ain’t gonna change!

          Change We Can Believe in my ass!

    • makeji

      Yes, I agree. His lack of confidence is showing – but if he had gone with Hillary, it would have been over for him entirely. Choosing her at this point in time would suggest he was deeply afraid, now he’s just scared sh–less.

      • Kelvin Hearts PUMAs

        Somehow I doubt that.

  • catherine

    First of all I think Michelle finds him acceptable. Remember he listens to her first. Second I think Obama thinks Biden will appeal to white middle aged women, especially because of his good looks which to Obama- the packaging is what matters, and because Biden has been around awhile, he could serve as his Cheney. It won’t work though. As Biden himself said in the debates, Obama is just not ready for the job. Mccain people will play this comment over and over and it will stick.

    • rachel

      Biden is good-looking?

      • wodiej

        ick

        • VMorris

          ick X 2!!!

      • workingclass artist

        Hmmmm…..Biden has very attractive hair plugs…..lol

        • John House

          And fake teeth. I had to do drawings of the guy so I studied him a bit and noticed his fake choppers. Ew.

    • DawnelleWONTVOTE4it

      yea Biden can NOT possibly be Bambi’s Cheney because (for me and most I know) we would RATHER have BIDEN than BAMBI any old damn day!!!

      and with CHAINSAW? um NOooooooooooo!

      Bambi frigged up. Alone on an empty stage with only his (better) shadow.

      I will from this point on watch no further news or blog much until the next GREAT EVENT (november) and it makes national coverage ……… or someone’s car breaks down. LOL

      The whole thing is just beyond tiring and even my MOM is turning it OFF. We’re not voting this year in NC. McCain will win easily if PUMA don’t show up to vote in this state! (EASY BREEZY)
      And no compromising my own beliefs. And HEY if McCain were to surprise me and pick Hillary as VP? I will promise to not only VOTE but send money and phone bank!

      peace out fine peeps
      don’t forget to breathe!

      • CheapEmptySuit

        What if Hillary wins the nom? Then what? Stranger things have happened.
        Super dee’s. get courage. round 1 and round 2 and round 3 etc=Hillary. Save America from imploding.
        Don’t follow this cult over the cliff.

      • http://BHOtroll mary

        Dawnelle – great post!
        Well said!

        Without the PUMAs, McCain will get in w. landslide! Obama’s latest polls show he’s secured only 52% of the Democrats. The rest are Hillary supporters and 27% will vote McCain and the undecideds will be a huge factor and will either stay home or vote McCain!
        That’s not a good number for Oblabla! Waht about the 48% who don’t want him.

        Wait till Biden’s verbal diarrhea gets more known…and his Obama-like racist gaffes…Biden is gaffe-prone and he goes on and on and on and on and on….just like his baby-boss BHO!

      • http://noquarters foxyladi14

        NOW THATS THE TICKET
        MCCAIN/CLINTON 08
        CLINTON12/16
        YIPEE

    • s. hall

      catherine — during the primaries Biden was the weakest Democrat. The best he could garner was 2%. What makes you think he will be more popular now? Obama chose the person he would be comfortable with. I hope he is comfortable for the next couple of years in the Senate because he blew his chances of ever being President.

    • Fenelon spoke

      This white middle aged white woman doesn’t find Biden all that attractive, and I find it unfortunate that another woman would suggest that is a reason for women to find the ticket appealing.

      • http://BHOtroll mary

        Fenelon Spoke

        I understand that Oblabla’s racist Typical White Grandma was lifted from under the toxic fumes of The Bus and was heard saying:

        “Gee, I’d love to see this handsome young man with grey hair that my no-good-for-nothing grandson picked for V-P…..although I’d vote for Hillary anyway!”….

        Thanks grandma Dunham!

        Obama’s Grandma is a PUMA…Please rescue her form the toxic fumes of BHO’s Political Harakiri Bus!

    • vinnie

      The dude that played Blake Carrington is a good looking elderly man…biden, no.

      • VMorris

        Agreed! John Forsythe, aka Blake, is hot!!!

      • voterinexile

        way back i had a crush on biden. but i never saw his relative appeal translate in the primaries. like so many sitting senators they are too much of that milieu to step outside it’s boundaries.

        bama bin biden – adds up to nothing more than 2 sets of unctious pearly whites.

        biden has some appeal with white male dems who couldn’t embrace hillary. kucinich was always too fringe; dodd was incoherent most of the time. but this demo already went for bambi.

        he doesn’t add anything but so-called gravitas to the ticket.

        not a game changer.

    • Cooney

      Shame on you Catherine, for even suggesting Biden is appealing to white middle aged women, hair plugs and all.

      • rw

        OK, let’s not have reverse sexism here. It’s detestable to critique a female candidate for “female” attributes, which was brutally done in the primary by the MSM and Obama followers. It is equally detestable to read reverse sexism. It’s not OK to critique a male candidate for his “male” attributes and qualities.

    • Clinton Fan

      Good looking?
      The poor guy’s hairplugs and hair transplants look like a string mop glued to the front of his bald head, which is very visible, even with all the hair weaving he has done to thicken his bare locks.

      His teeth look like they were made from vitreous china–or borrowed from Mister Ed. They’re FAKE looking. Even the tan looks “man tannish.”

      Don’t try to “Dan Quayle” him–women got pissed at Bush The First for picking Quayle because he thought he would “appeal to the ladies.” The ladies hated that moron! And his wife, too!

      Biden has appeal because he is INTELLIGENT and WITTY, not because he is beautiful.

      As others have said, a reverse order ticket would be tolerable, even though the slight to Clinton remains unacceptable.

      I don’t think this decision was made awhile ago. I think it was made yesterday. I’d love to be a fly on the wall and find out how it went down —at some point, some asshole staffer will break ranks and tell all. They always do.

      • mk5112 Tx

        now who could make a cartoon of Biden with these lovely qualities???????
        I love the discription-so visual

      • http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/080820_NBC-WSJ_Released.pdf trixta

        He picked Biden to give him gravitas and because Biden is a good attack dog.

    • CountryFirst

      Yep, I think Biden is good looking, but we aren’t voting for VP, we’re voting for President. Biden’s good looks are not a replacement for experience and character that we’re looking for in a President.

  • http://www.greensunshine.net jadwiga

    He couldn’t pick Hillary – I am sure, because she would overshadow him. All the good choices already declined the invitation. There are only a handful of them left. All of them are somewhat less than first class.
    I do like Biden, but I don’t think he has the necessary self-control to be a statesman that is so frequently exposed to the media as a VP is. He has his version of WORMs (What Biden Really Meant).

    It is just that. (Reminds me of Richard III) Pretty soon he will offer his country for a horse.

    (I might be mistaken, I know.)

    • Clinton Fan

      He’s “Clinton LITE”–fewer supporters, lesser fundraising ability, voted for the IWR, DLC affiliation…but … he DOES have a PENIS!!!

      No strong women, like Grandma, allowed!!!

  • Brodie

    At least Hillary isn’t involved in this train wreck. I guess only Biden didn’t care… two plagiarists together- how lovely. Can’t wait to see the ads on that topic. But then, who knows what will happen in Denver? I look forward to the end of this Made-for-TV-movie. ffftt.

    • mimi

      I’m sure Biden is praying that 0′s candicacy will crash and burn and he’ll be the nominee.

      • FranSC

        Biden would not become the nominee if something were to happen to O. Hillary would be the nominee. In the event something happened to BO, Biden could assume the presidency only after January 20, 2009, when the Justice of the Supreme Court says repeat after me: “I Barack Hussein Obama Do Solemnly swear…..”.

        • PewL

          And she holds the delegates,until she decides to let them go.

          We also don’t know for sure if Biden wants the Vp job,or if the vote would go his way///

          Many things can happen between now and the Thursday nite exceptance speech.

          Hillary for President

      • voterinexile

        biden can still run for his senate seat again, so his bets are hedged.

        at the end of the day this was a predictable choice from our change candidate.

        bayh would’ve been better…yuck! (all these B’s)
        at least they seem to mesh temperament-wise.

        biden even comes with high medical negatives.

        • CheapEmptySuit

          I think OStupidObama’s strategy is to pick someone wise looking to make OStupidObama look good against J MAC.

          • SlowBurn

            biden can’t be at o’s side every minute so that strategy is a losing one!

      • Alice

        If Obama crashes, they better put Hillary in as the nominee — because Biden wouldn’t have a snowballs chance in H___

      • http://democratsforrealchange.info Dr. bobbi Anne white

        you are on the money there. he probably knows about the Berg lawsuit in Pa. so Barry’s declared ineligible and he becomes tne defacto nominee?

    • Kato

      I can’t wait to see the SNL skit of them plagiarizing each other. This is a comedians dream team.

      • HARP

        LOL….They can copy one anothers speeches

        • Kato

          Hey, it economizes on speech writing.

          • workingclass artist

            Maybe they ( Barry & Joey ) can swap clothes too…..Just like sisters….lol

            • VMorris

              Title of Obama’s next book:

              The Brotherhood of the Traveling Pants

        • http://BHOtroll mary

          Yep.

          THE BOYS XEROXED THEIR WAY ALL THE WAY TO DENVER!

    • beebop

      On the other thread someone mentioned that Biden isn’t giving up his seat and will probably not be damaged by time he has to run again. Taking one up the butt for the party. And maybe his banking buddies can make use of 0bama’s lists? JOWO

    • vinnie

      seriously, if you think about it, what does Biden got to lose? He has served how long on the Hill? If this doesn’t work out for him, he writes a book and retires. Barry on the other hand will hide his face in shame for losing this so called “slam dunk” election year for the Dems.

      • FranSC

        “Barry” may hide his face in shame for losing, but remember he was egged on to run by the ‘salivating’ dem leadership and DNC who thought they could not lose this time -experience be damned! When they lose in Nov they may have to seek asylum or go into the Witness Protection Program with new identities. Their dirty secrets have been exposed to say the least.

  • Fandango13

    It is such a relief that Hillary was not his choice. I wish I could think there will be tell-all books down the line, but I suspect THE ONE has lined up no-tell contracts on everyone…either that or Chicago-style kneecaps?
    Off-subject: I’ve been scrubbed by Jake Tapper. Moi. Good God.
    Is it possibly true that Obama has lined up 22 people (mostly women) to tell his life story at the convention? Would someone please show the entry ticket again, the one to the Arena where Obama is wrapped in an upside down flag?
    Love to the PUMAs and the Denver Groups, “We’re the ones you weren’t expecting”.
    PUMA

    • s. hall

      Fandango — First Obama said he would get us Hillary supporters back because we had no place to go. Then we were hags, zealots, funded by Republicans, not more than a handful of trouble makers and now the media says we will be the king makers. What a difference a few weeks make.

      • fooj

        What a difference, indeed. Get a load of this…

        MSNBC – McCain urged to join Kerry ticket

        http://web.archive.org/web/20040803085719/http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4961694/

        McCain urged to join Kerry ticket
        Biden says a joint ticket would help heal ‘vicious rift’ dividing U.S.

        Updated: 8:48 p.m. ET May 16, 2004

        WASHINGTON – Sen. Joseph Biden, a senior Democrat, on Sunday urged Republican Sen. John McCain to run for vice president with the Democratic hopeful, Sen. John Kerry, in order to heal the “vicious rift” dividing America.

        advertisement

        McCain, of Arizona, “categorically” ruled out standing with Kerry, but Biden, the top Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said he had no second choice.

        “I’m sticking with McCain,” Biden said.

        “I think John McCain would be a great candidate for vice president,” Biden, from Delaware, said on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” where the two senators appeared together to take questions on Iraq and other subjects.

        FULL TRANSCRIPT

        Sens. John McCain and Joe Biden on ‘Meet the Press’

        “Do I think it’s going to happen? No,” he said. “But I think it is a reflection of the desire of this country and the desire of people in both parties to want to see this God-awful, vicious rift that exists in the nation healed, and John and John could go a long way to heal in that rift.”

        McCain, chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee and in line to take over the Senate Armed Services panel in two years, endorsed Biden’s call for bridging the political gap between Democrats and Republicans.

        “There’s too much partisanship in America, and there’s too much partisanship in the Senate,” he said. “And we’re not doing our job as our constituents expect us to do.”

        “I will always take anyone’s phone calls,” McCain said of any call he might get from Kerry, a fellow decorated Vietnam War veteran. “But I will not, I categorically will not do it.”

        Kerry said Wednesday that McCain, a frequent critic of President Bush, would be his first choice to replace Donald Rumsfeld, the secretary of defense now wrestling with the Iraqi prisoner abuse scandal.

        “I have any number of people that I would make secretary of Defense, beginning with our good friend John McCain,” Kerry said last week.

        But on “Meet the Press” Sunday, McCain also indicated he was not interested in becoming secretary of defense in the event of a Kerry victory in November.

        Copyright 2004 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. Republication or redistribution of Reuters content is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters.

        • fooj

          Edit to add…

          “Queenie” asked me to post this because she was having technical difficulties. Don’t want to take the credit for someone’s diligent research…

      • athena

        Don’t forget…”deadenders”.

        Who comes up with this shit?

      • http://noquarters foxyladi14

        new one i saw today we are
        HILLIARY HARRIGANS
        this is not the party she planned but she loves the company
        punas bubbas and those people rule

    • voterinexile

      i’m really happy it wasn’t hillary.

      the hypocrisy factor is big enough with biden’s vote on the war, being a DC insider, ties to credit card lobby, etc.; he’d never live it down if he chose hillary. he invested too much bot money on The Haters – to retract those memes now.

  • Firefly

    And an additional question: what made Biden (experienced, older, wiser, etc.) willing to take second place to the obviously “not ready for primetime” empty suit?

    Does he think bambi will implode prior to the election and the “VP nominee” will be vaulted to the “POTUS nominee” spot?

    Does he think barky will win and he (Biden) will have a chance at POTUS later, having been VP?

    Is he that desperate for national attention?

    Biden comes with much of the “experienced, qualified” cred as Hillary – although he’s not anywhere close to her caliber. Will Biden be committing the same political suicide as Hillary would have had she accepted the same token spot on the ticket?

    I just don’t understand why Biden would do this…

    • http://www.greensunshine.net jadwiga

      He could be forced by the Unity argument. I didn’t think he was seriously trying during the primary debates.

    • bemused

      I think this is the right question. Why would Biden do this? jadwiga is right that already the good choices are off the table and even the second string run out. My own feeling (based admittedly on being immersed in conspiracy theories for a literary project) is that of the available ones, Biden is the one with the most to “gain” because he has wanted to be president–his gain is psychological. He is maneuvering into 2nd place as a Cheney.

      • mimi

        Of course he was forced in the spirit of party unity.

        If he’s smart, he’s made a deal on paper to have some power.

        But 0barfbag is plays dirty. They’re probably digging for dirt on Biden as we speak and should barfbag get elected, the info will ‘mysteriously’ emerge and Biden will be forced to resign. And the 0bama can pick who he really wants.

        I wouldn’t close my eyes if I was Biden.

        Didn’t he have an aneuryism a while back. How’s his health, btw?

        The plot sickens.

        • mimi

          sorry that’s

          plays dirty &

          then 0bama can pick who he wants

        • PamFlorida

          He had 2 aneuryisms

          • workingclass artist

            Oh Brother !……( eye roll )
            So Barry’s argument will be McCain is older than dirt….chuckle…..
            And McCain’s argument will be Biden’s exploding head…..LOL

            • jwrjr

              While Obama is dirtier than old.

        • Clinton Fan

          He had TWO brain aneurysms–one on each side of his head. They clipped them shut and left the clips in.

          Last one was 1988, IIRC.

      • VRWC – Biden Dept.

        Not that I know how Biden’s mind works, but Biden seems not to have a low opinion of himself and could persuade himself that it’s better him (Biden), than someone less qualified in Biden’s view, as VP in case Obama does win in November. He could at least limit the damage that could result from Obama’s inexperience in office. A “for the good of the country” kind of thing. That argument could persuade a less ambitious pol than Biden, and is of course a form of the argument implied by the ticket to voters generally. Hope, change, and fail-safe. And the influence of the VP position would not be unappealing, despite Biden’s having disavowed VP ambitions in the past. VPs have been increasingly influential in administrations since Carter (intelligently) started the trend with Mondale. The traditional “bucket of spit” label for the position is obsolete.

    • s. hall

      firefly — I think its the hope that Obama will implode and he can be potus.

    • Five Thirty

      what made Biden (experienced, older, wiser, etc.) willing to take second place to the obviously “not ready for primetime” empty suit?

      Next stop Presidency in 2017.

      • Clinton Fan

        He’d be getting up there. He’s only six years younger than McCain.

    • voterinexile

      if BO gets elected -and that’s a big IF- he could get impeached.

  • http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Medusa

    I think we’ve yet to see how the Axelrod Advertising Agency spins the Biden pick. I doubt Bozo had much to say about it…I think those who created the phenomenon “Barack Obama” are responsible for EVERYTHING that happens, everything that’s said and every cent that’s spent.

    Bozo is a cypher, an empty-suit, whose past relationships with terrorist, crooks and commies makes it necessary for his producers to keep him that way.

    Bozo’s followers are the ones with psychological pathologies. Unable to see the little man behind the curtain, they fit the profile of cult members to a T.

    According to a WaPo piece, 75% of people say Bozo’s pick of Biden makes no difference to them. 10% say they are less likely to vote for the Fraud.

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/behind-the-numbers/2008/08/new_data_impact_of_biden.html?hpid=topnews

    • s. hall

      Mesusa — Interesting. According to a WaPo piece, 75% of people say Bozo’s pick of Biden makes no difference to them. 10% say they are less likely to vote for the Fraud.

      However, I disagree that Obama’s handlers made this choice. This was done by a man who is paranoid that someone else will steal his thunder. Obama could have taken Hillary and she would have done her best to bring him her 18 Million supporters but Obama was too frightened to be a President in Bill Clinton’s shadow so now he won’t be president at all. And if he doesn’t start doing his job in the Senate he won’t be a second term Senator either.

      • http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Medusa

        I think BO’s handlers have a plan for running this country, not something Hillary could be manipulated to fulfill. BO is a puppet.

      • PewL

        It Funny though, that the Clinton’s have so many appearances at the convention…And Obama thru them under the Bus….Doesn’t sound like Party Unity to me..

        Clinton’s are loved by many..

  • vicky555

    Somethings up…

    1. Why would they wait until 3:00am to announce this?
    2. What’s Biden going to do, bring in Delaware?

    Whoever the first choice was either had issues or turned them down. Biden probably had terms and conditions. His son is currently the AG (or something) in DE. He would want to work a deal for his son to get his seat and make the party back him 100%.

    Anyway you cut it, somethings up!

    • Felix Rodriguez

      I think you are on to something there, Vicky. Yes, there was someone else before Biden. Either that person did not pass the process or he or she was too smart to accept the offer.

    • DawnelleWONTVOTE4it

      Biden’s son? or daughter? Is the one that had Larry Sinclair arrested, etc right?

      Maybe there is some bribing going on?

      doh

      of course there is

    • Kato

      They waited until 3:00 am to give Hillary and her supporters a big slap in the face.

      • VMorris

        BINGO!!!!

      • jwrjr

        Another reason Obama is like bush-the-lesser: Both ran (are running) on the “anybody-but-Clinton” ticket.

    • mimi

      Also why no announcement at a press conference side-by-side?

      They probably can’t stand each other.

    • Jim S

      In all probability Biden leaked the information himself, stealing Obama’s thunder.

    • voterinexile

      beau biden is in the national guard and going off for a tour of duty in Iraq; think is delaware’s AG.

    • Clinton Fan

      Three AM was a dig at Clinton’s ad of the same name.

      It shows just how juvenile this Presidential candidate is.

      He’s appealing to the bots with the three AM bullshit, hoping they don’t notice that his choice is NOT a groovy change agent, but instead, a political insider.

  • bayareavoter

    Let’s see….An inexperienced, smug, empty suit who’s never earned one thing he’s gotten in life, chooses an older more experienced VP…..sounds like Baby Bush redux! It’s like Papa Cheney II!

    Barry is the mirror-image of Bush in more ways than one.

    People waiting by their phones for the text message must have been a little disappointed–Biden is soooo boring. But he is Catholic and they want Hillary’s Catholic voters and supposedly he’ll help with voters from Scranton….NOT.

    Young voters probably never heard of Biden and Axelrove is trying to figure out how to get those damn older voters Donkey Brazile said they didn’t need anymore.

  • MrMike

    When is Biden up for re-election to the Senate? If this bid fails can he keep his day job?

    • Clinton Fan

      He is on the ballot this year.

      His opponent wants him to step down. I doubt he will, he isn’t stupid.

  • Joe Smith

    I don’t think anybody else would take the job.

    • bemused

      Yes. Others have been running away from it, in fact. BO/BS doesn’t have so many options, he is the one who has to take what he can get. So why would Biden take it?

  • BernieO

    I think his handlers hounded him to pick someone with experience after the Georgia-Russia dust up made the public think again about foreign policy. I have a feeling they had to really pressure Obama and only his sinking poll numbers finally convinced him. After all Obama seriously claimed to have more foreign policy experience than either Hillary or McCain because he lived abroad as a kid, visited relatives in Africa and backpacked through Pakistan as a student (what was that about?). This was a truly delusional statement but it showed just how overconfident Obama is.
    I would bet he wanted someone much less prominent so they wouldn’t overshadow him but after his trip to Europe did nothing to raise his foreign policy cred and his numbers kept dropping even the delusional Obama had to get real.

  • Joe Smith

    Give me a break this guy accepted the VP spot 3 months ago. He was the only one. Everybody else said no.

  • http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/ NotYoursweetie

    AP says it denotes insecurity – but I doubt it.
    Before Obama Biden was the only Dem media loved to showcase. Same connections must be in place.
    Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Slate says if you don’t vote BO – you’re all a bunch of racists!
    http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/08/23/qwhen-is-clinton-not-blamed-a-when-racism-is/

    • Andy

      Maura Liason said the same thing: it looks like an admission by BO of his weakness and unreadiness as a world leader.

      Biden has a far too strong personality; I don’t know how that “marriage” will work out. I almost gaged this morning when Linda Wertheimer on NPR discussing the choice in tertms of “marriage” said that:

      “Biden completes Obama” (as in Jerry Maguire) UGH!!

      • wodiej

        another mindless bimbo…

    • Andy

      Maura Liason said the same thing: it looks like an admission by BO of his weakness and unreadiness as a world leader.

      Biden has a far too strong personality; I don’t know how that “marriage” will work out. I almost gagged this morning when Linda Wertheimer on NPR discussing the choice in tertms of “marriage” said that:

      “Biden completes Obama” (as in Jerry Maguire)

      UGH!!

    • workingclass artist

      MSM NewsPorn loved Daddy Joe because of the Pile O’ Shit that flew outta his mouth….lol….This race has gotten to be funny again…..

    • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

      Tough shit for Slate. I never read them unless someone sends me a story, mainly because they have a few women writers who suffer from Stockholm Syndrome.

      • http://BHOtroll mary

        Uppity Woman

        That’s precisely it! The “women writers at Slate all suffer from Stockholm Syndrome”! And all the rest of the women who’ll vote for Obamyopia because Biden contributed a few xeroxed pages of Hillary’s research to his Women’s Violence legislation…

        If all women were cured of thier Stockholm Syndrome, Hillary would have been nominated back in January! Sad…

    • CheapEmptySuit

      They are too stupid to realize that people don’t like him, don’t want him, don’t trust him and it’s nothing to do with color. It’s his character we don’t like. When are they going to stop being a broken record on their flimsy excuse that we are racists. They all have three fingers pointing back.
      They didn’t pick Hillary because they are woman haters/mysoginysts, eh?

  • Brodie

    This is SOOO not gonna work for Barky. As a Clinton supporter, I don’t feel assuaged in the least. In fact, now I shall dedicate myself to bringing Barky/Biden down…UNLESS a miracle happens in Denver & B&B get da boot. I do agree that something’s up. Makes me wonder who McCain will pick now- Hillary?

    • s. hall

      brodie — if only……

    • Amabo Kcarab

      No, Senator McCain needs to keep his GOP rightwing base onboard, so his VP choice should be someone who will appeal to them. He himself has the maverick reputation, so his choice doesn’t have to be politically risky.

      However, if McCain keeps saying positive, respectful things about Senator Clinton where he can during his campaign (and let certain ads remind Clinton supporters just who *wasn’t* respectful towards her), we might get to see an elderly Republican be The Great Unifier of 2008.

  • Mary Lou

    It’s pathetic that we ever opened the Pandora’s box to deeming it acceptable to elect immature inexperienced men to head this country as long as they have baby daddy holding their hand. It does seem like the epitome of I don’t have to wait til I grow up before I get to have it mindset however. Here’s hoping the sad history of the last 8 years won’t repeat itself through an Obama-Biden win.

  • JerryH

    Obama Bin Biden? LMAO!! Biden has been in the Senate longer than McCain!! So much for change!!

    • vinnie

      saw a funny bumper sticker that said “Obama bin lyin’”

    • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

      Yeah Barky will have to stop that stump speech about how long McCain has been in office, since Biden was there first.

  • brds

    1) If you feel Obama is so incompetent and Hillary has so many strengths, why would you WANT her on the ticket with Obama? Why would you want her to sully her reputation by agreeing to play second fiddle to such a nefarious loser?

    2) Maybe obama picked biden because he feels he would both make an excellent advisor and would make an excellent president should something happen to Obama. In other words, he picked him for the actual job he would hold, not just as a campaign prop.

    • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

      If you feel Obama is so incompetent and Hillary has so many strengths, why would you WANT her on the ticket with Obama? Why would you want her to sully her reputation by agreeing to play second fiddle to such a nefarious loser?

      I myself never wanted her on the ticket with the nefarious loser. I watched superdelegates thumb their noses at their constituents to drag his limp ass over the nomination line. I had no interest in watching Hillary drag his limp ass over the election line.

      Hillary has left the building. Own your shitty candidate. See you in 4 years.

      • mimi

        Hear! Hear!

        See ya in 4 years!

        WIN WITHOUT ME!!!!!

    • http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/ Medusa

      Do your part for the Democratic Party. It must lose in order to be purged of the corruption that we’ve all witnessed this season.

      VOTE AGAINST OBAMA!

      • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

        Same as last time they hijacked the party. We clean house. Again.

      • http://lnab.newsvine.com/ Linda

        DITTO!

      • http://BHOtroll mary

        CLEAN UP THE exDEMOCRATIC PARTY IN NOVEMBER!

        USE A BROOM MADE IN THE U.S. BY PUMAS INC.

        Nobama ’08

        P.S. Biden’s busy xeroxing his speech.
        Biden will provide the catharctic after their mutual Logorrhea marathon…

    • http://www.greensunshine.net jadwiga

      NOBODY among us wanted Hillary to be his VP. We care about Hillary too much to whish something this terrible to happen to her.

      As Uppity says, you own him. Go and be happy. What the HECK are you still doing here!

      • CheapEmptySuit

        Oh what a relief it is! I’m going to have a relaxing day now that Hillary is not the VP pick.
        Knowing she is not going to be seen with fraudbama and referred to him in the same sentence is making me very happy. Hillary doesn’t need to be seen with ObamaCrook.
        The REAL winner of the primary gets off the hook and the crooks take over.

    • s. hall

      brds — and maybe the Messiah realized he has issues with strong women. So screw the fact that Hillary had 18 Million reasons to pick her and Biden had none. The Boy needs a comfort zone.

  • lowdowndog

    Susan, spare us the vision of Obama’s Oedipal adventures on the psychoanalysis’s couch. Bottom line…the media, Republicans, DNC, and the Obama cabal every damn one of them conspired to tank Hillary because they fear his loss less than her name on the ticket.

  • SJ

    3 whole electoral vote wow that should seal the deal for Obama, I guess Obama felt he wanted someone that will not upstage his greatness, unfortunately he is going to get upstage by Biden anyway because they both love the camera and love to showboat.

    So let the games begin, it will be fun to watch especially when Biden comes out and talks about his years of experience and know how in politics, poor Barry he will then have to say well I picked someone that knows more than me and Michelle.

    • mimi

      Yeah, Delaware: the little state that could.

  • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

    He picked him because he himself is a pissant who doesn’t know squat about much of anything. Joe is his Adult Supervision.

    • s. hall

      uppity — Obama needs a strong Daddy to replace Rev. Wright. Obama needs to speak in front of 76,000 people. Obama needs to announce in Springfield ala Lincoln. Obama is a needy Messiah. Screw the people — OBAMA NEEDS.

    • Tuppence 411

      Biden was choosen so he could be the answer to every legitimate critique of Obambi. Barky is an exotic elitist. Biden is a regular Joe. Barky went to Ivy League schools. Joe worked his way thru a public university. Barky lives in a mansion. Joe commutes to work on the Amtrak. Barky has no record in the Senate. Joe has a list of accomplishments. Barky is naive, Joe is experienced. Barky is too young. Joe is 65. Barky would run from Putin. Joe would kick Putin in the nuts. Barky says “uhmmm, ahhhh”. Joe talks first, thinks later. Barky’s base is egg-heads. Joe’s base is working class.

      This stategy will not work. America will not fall for it. I can not see the Rust Belt running towards Barky just because Biden is on the ticket.

      • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

        The problem is: Joe wouldn’t be in charge. Barky has plans and I don’t think they are the same plans as Joe’s plans would be.

        Barky’s gonna send Joe off to some funeral abroad or to visit the Queen, and Barky will get busy while he’s gone.

  • WOW

    Black pro-lifers to protest at DNC on Monday August 25th. Many more persons are planning to joined them.

  • HARP

    FOX reporting 50 SUV`s to take Biden to the airport and a chopper following…….Just like OJ Simpson.

    • SJ

      Wow sound like he is the one running for President and not poor Barry, let the upstaging begin Michelle is going to be very upset with all this, they are moving the bar on Barry once again.

      • http://www.greensunshine.net jadwiga

        It sounds more like they are guarding him so he couldn’t run away.

        • roseeriter

          lol! Bow to Obama Biden!!!

        • Andy

          LOL jadwiga !!

        • Annie

          rofl! Good one!
          =======================================
          Comment by jadwiga | 2008-08-23 11:11:28

          It sounds more like they are guarding him so he couldn’t run away
          =========================================

        • okasha skatsi

          Somebody get a good look at his wrists. Any sign of cuffs?

    • Angry Michelle

      Obama Bin Biden for President.

    • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

      Did you see the helicopter shots of his compound estate? I bet he owns way more houses than McCain does. Of course BOTH of them own those houses for family, but since Obama has no courtesy when it comes to family (Including his OWN), all bets are off. Look for a McCain ad on Biden’s mulitple homes.

    • wodiej

      what the hell!! wonder how much gas they’ll save w those properly inflated tires on SUV’s that get about 12 miles to the gallon. Shit like this goes on every day that wastes more gas than the average consumer. At least we use our vehicles for something useful like…ah….work.

  • wodiej

    Biden is old news, he keeps recycling for President and never wins, kind of like Nader. He is not going to help Obama win votes but apparently is ok w cheating, sexism, dishonesty, no experience, associating with terrorists and attending a racist, American hating church for 20 years. So he has no principles or character either. Count me as another who is glad Hillary is not running w Obama. I doubt she is broke up about it.

    I agree w an earlier comment that Obama didn’t have a choice in the VP, I doubt Obama has had alot of say in anything. They likely told him they would hand him the election and he had to just shut up and let them do the rest.

    Who knows why they picked Biden in their twisted thinking but I for one could care less what issues Obama has, all I know is he’s got them and he has no business being President. Let a psychiatrist figure it out.

    • Tuppence 411

      If memory serves me right, we have had at least 2 chances to vote Biden as our Democratic Nominee for President, and we have said NO both times. So why the hell would we want him for VP and give him a leg up in 2016?

    • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

      Joe’s been a senator since 1973. Now that’s “change” you can believe in. lol.

      • DawnelleWONTVOTE4it

        Biden is a BOOB

        OB
        BO
        BB
        BOOB

        and Bambi screwed up UPPITY! (what’s new? lol)

        Biden will never be a Cheney.

        I would much much rather have Biden than Bambi.

        Cheney ensured W could never be knocked off or impeached because the alternate was sooooo much worse.

        Bambi made big mistake imo.
        (tin foil hat)

        • athena

          Maybe Hillary can get off the stump for Obama and start behind the scenes prepping for 2012. He has Biden to stump for him now. Bet he can draw the crowds (rolls eyes)

          • just me

            Yes I hope she does now after all he has his #2 now.

            Stop stumping for him Hillary let him float his own boat now…

  • kinthenorthwest

    Im not sure but wasn’t Biden’s son was the attorney general involved in the warrant for the arrest of Larry Sinclair right after that infamous press conference.
    The Sinclair story might have lots problems. Yet it does seem weird that it was Biden’s son/state that issued an arrest warrant when Sinclair had no warrants outstanding in Delaware.
    I can remember that I and I bet many others thought the Enquirer was out to lunch in trying to nail Edwards and a mistress.
    This is going to be a Very interesting election—Oh what a mess the DNC has created by not vetting Obama……Just too many questions open and not answered.

    • HARP

      Absolutley

  • suthrn

    the BOJO dream ticket is going to be history after their 15 min. of media blitz……….raise hell hillary supporters!!!

  • HARP

    I believe the Nation of Islam is in charge of his campaign and Axlerod is just a front.

    • d2d

      Bingo!

      • CheapEmptySuit

        bingo..who’s behind the death of Gwatney? N of I?

        • http://BHOtroll memi

          Gwatney dies, shot through the head.

          Stephanie Tubbs Jones dies….another decent loyal Hillary supporter behind her wheel suddenly….

          Who’s next on the ObamaThug Hit List? Wait and see! This Islamist Sharia Law sexist knocked Alice Palmer off the ballots in Chicago and his gangs have been knocking off everybody getting in his way to the White House loot!

          Dream Ticket is…

          Odinga-Obama ’08 – Kenya for Sharia Law!
          Paid for by
          WOMEN DON’T COUNT!

  • s. hall

    Susan well said. This is the problem with having a candidate who, besides a lack of experience, has serious unresolved psychological issues.

    Our last President had unresolved issues with his father which was probably the reason he hung Sadam because his Daddy didn’t do it.

    Obama cost himself the election by ignoring Hillary’s 18 Million voters. Joe Biden will not fix whats broken in this great pretender.

  • Brodie

    Good one, Uppity! Except Joe might be one of those adults that don’t do so well as chaperons. I truly hope we never have to find out…I’m visualizing B&B self-destruction during convention.

  • Peggy Sue

    Well, I guess I’m in the minority: I actually like Joe Biden, always have. And because of that I’m not thrilled to see him on this ticket. When the Big “O” goes down, he’ll take Biden with him.

    Yes, Biden can be long-winded and gaffe prone, and I do not understand how he’s going to prop up an empty suit. But I admire the work he’s done in Congress, the on-the-ground knowledge he’s amassed over a long, distinguished career. He’s also shockingly frank, which is unusual for Washington veterans, something I personally find refreshing.

    So, when I heard the news I was genuinely saddened. I’m trying to prepare myself for the trainwreck that the Democrats seem hellbent on driving forward. This will not end well. I think the Democratic Party leadership has lost its frigging mind!

    • Clinton Fan

      I don’t mind old Big Mouth Joe, either. As a Senator.

      Don’t cry for him, though–he’s doing “The Lieberman 2000,” running for both the VP slot AND the Senate seat. His opponent has demanded he drop out; I’m sure Biden’s retort will be a hearty “Fuck you!”

      He’s not a fool. He probably sees the handwriting on the wall, but this adventure will give him a bit more spotlight time, and he does like that.

      • beebop

        Yeah. One thing you can say for/about Biden. He always knows where the microphone is!

      • voterinexile

        so agree!

        he’s not THAT stupid.

    • DawnelleWONTVOTE4it

      I think the Iraqi government secretly likes Biden’s plan to divide up the country into coexisting smaller groups.

      And they love Barry of course.

      Yep the middle east is picking our next president (thanks GWDOUCHE)

  • Andy

    My take: I think Caroline; who I have always respected until she came with Obama being like her father (say what?) believes that meme so much that thought Biden would be the perfect illusion for what LBJ was to JFK…. This whole attempt to evoke JFK with pols that are clearly not makes me cringe. It is embarrasing…

    Maura Liason (NPR) on a TV program last week said that choosing Biden would be an admission by Obama he is not read to be CIC; that he is WEAK in Foreign policy. I think she is right. Biden is strong in foreign policy but I dislike him in domestic policy
    (similar to Obama). Politically it is a big gamble : it is gigantic YAWN –except for pundits– and Biden
    has such an inflated view of himself that enhances the
    arrogance in the ticket (gaffes aside).

    I say: whatever. What matters here, the real problem here is Obama, the top of the ticket.

    • http://BHOtroll memi

      Andy,

      Charles Feldman has written a book on Media and Obama and saw him on CTV (Ottawa, Canada) just now and he said exactly what you said that it’s going to backfire on Obama as he is ADMITTING HE HAS NO FOREIGN AFFAIRS EXPERIENCE or experience in foreign affairs….
      It also works against his “change” argument! I was surprised how frank and condescending to Hussein that Feldman was in htis interview!

      Obama will go down sinking in November like lead….Biden or no Biden!

      My prediction, a THIRD PARTY IS BORN in November….Pumas?

  • AF catfish

    Obama has his long lost daddy! Obi you are soooo transparent.

  • Linda C.

    Joe B is Obama’s adult supervision. The move is probably to calm some anxiety with the SD and some of the dems. The older dems know who Biden is..and it might help in PA and VA. I would watch those two state polls to see if it has an impact.

  • Seattle Moss

    Choosing Biden shows us all that Obama is weak and not up to the task of being President.
    Psychologically it reinforces all the negatives and makes people question how the DNC could allow such a nominee.
    We are basically voting for a president Biden with his side kick apprentice
    The democrats American Idol campaign has run it’s course with the American people disgusted with the result.

    • Tuppence 411

      Exactly! Another Bush-Cheney. Been there. Done that. Didn’t work out well. No thanks.

    • http://www.greensunshine.net jadwiga

      Everybody is more experienced than Obama, including Kaine.
      He didn’t have much of a choice.

  • HARP

    Now what if Biden took this position because he KNEW ( his son was involved ) things about Sinclair and then it accidently leaked out. Biden would then be running for president not VP.

    • DawnelleWONTVOTE4it

      I said that earlier that I’m sure has something to do with it.

      Except I thought they botched the arrest by showing up too late.

      It’s all just something I’m gonna have to read about when the book comes out in a few years.

      tsk
      sigh

      Another Republican President

      sigh

      this is why so many do NOT participate in politics

      there is NO justice

  • Hillary the President

    Sen. BO/BS had no other choices. He had to pick Sen. Biden. To obama, the things have been coming out from the Larry Sinclair’s mouth have been damaging obama’s political career (after all things LS’s saying could be true), and Biden and his son have helped to stop LS (for now). Obama’s caluculation will be that he can stop/or kill all accusations related to Rezko and LS by removing judges, etc. once he’d become president. For Biden, I’m not sure if he cares much about him being a vp, but he might have been thinking to help his son’s future political career, i.e., biden’s son’s name recognition nationally.

    • Wisewoman

      The Rezco related issue is paramount to Obama’s desperation to be president. However, it has to do with the US Attorney in IL, Fitzgerad who has successfully sent the Repub governor and Rezco to jail. Obama plans to replace him because he is prosecuting corruption in IL from the dems and repubs. If Obama wins, goodbye Fritgerald, no indictment for Obama, the dem governor, or his mentor Richard Daly. Right now Fitzgerald is batting 1000. He has already unexpectedly and without prior notice supenoed many records (computers, papers, etc.) from Daly’s office. He is going after these people real hard but he needs more time before indicting them. If Obama is president, he can legitimately fire him and save his you know what. Biden is a fool to et on the ticket with him.

  • james andrews

    Russia and Georgia put Biden on the ticket.

    • mimi

      And the tanking polls.

  • http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

    Being from Delaware and having a son who is the AG of Delaware leads to many things to protect Obama and his thugs.

    Delaware is a haven for registrations of Corporate entities which unless the AG of Delaware choses to go after an entity, it is safe from prosicution.

    Groups like ACORN love these havens to be registered in, so do corporations like many of which support Obama thrive on.

    This is not a chance choice, it was a desperation choice by the backroom people who drive and control Obama’s campaign for their own protection.

    Biden is a stooge in the complex world of Obama.Chicago dirty politics and nothing more!

    • Nomoredem

      Guess who the AG of Delaware is, that is right Joe Biden’s son. Or if Obama wins the next junior senator from Delaware.

      • d2d

        Interesting take on the Biden choice. Best probable theory I’ve read all morning. It makes perfect sense.

        But then there is that pesty little eligibility issue that Soetoro has yet to face. If there is any truth to this theory, and Soetoro is the “official” Democratic nominee, but is found ineligible then who becomes the official Democratic Party nominee to run against McCain? After the convention?

        If anyone knows the law here it would be helpful for us conspiracy theorists.

    • voterinexile

      DELAWARE = CAYMAN ISLANDS

  • http://nad Dan

    Biden=Bordem, Well I’ll have to admit with Hillary on the ticket it would have been harder for John McCain to be president. Lets see,what was the total votes Biden recieved in the primaries compared to Hillary?well you see what I’m getting at ,it’s a no brainer. Now it’s four years of cleaning up to do for the democratic party.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal Paul F. Villarreal

    It was a choice of weakness and lack of confidence, as the AP has reported/surmised. I agree with Fournier’s assessment on that matter.

    Barack knows that he has zero foreign policy experience, and summer intern trips don’t count. He also knows that his background and his associations with radicals concerns many. So, instead of going straight ‘change,’ he picks the ultimate Washington insider and totally destroys his entire theme.

    When people look back at this move, “Obamian” will not longer be a noun, it will be an adjective to describe almost unfathomable idiocy, as typified by this choice of Biden.

    On a related note, here is McCain’s new ad on Biden/Obama but with several annotations added to help drive home the point and educate some who aren’t aware of the liability that Joe Biden is for BHO 2008:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoJUcsaptW4

    • Nomoredem

      If he wanted real change I wonder why he didn’t pick Caroline Kennedy. Oh, then his tru love affair with the Bush political story would have been revealed.

    • s. hall

      Paul — Thank you for the link to McCain’s new ad. So Biden would rather run with or against McCain. Says it all.

      • http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal Paul F. Villarreal

        You’re welcome, S. Hall!

        Yep, Biden said it all in the ad. And he is right.

  • Nomoredem

    If he wanted somebody like Biden and close to McCain he should have picked Lee Hamilton, he is even wiser than McCain and he is older,an acknowledged expert on Foreign Affairs, and Terrorism.

    Obama needed someone to cover his butt. Biden was the only one of his competitors that he hadn’t thrown under the train. John Edwards must be thinking of changing his song to Whose Sorry Now, he thought he had it in the bag.

    There has to be something more to this and I hope it comes out. If he wanted Washington experience, he could have taken a couple of his other buddies, Bill Richardson, or Chris Dodd. Military experience, Wes Clark or something that would have shaken things up Colin Powell. Economic cred, Michael Bloomberg or his buddy Warren Buffett.

    Anyone who thought for a moment that he would pick Hillary was using the same product that Barack used in the past. Once she caved, she gave up her leverage if she was interested.

    Listen the Big Dawg must have wet himself when he heard this. He might have been on the phone to the housekeeper at 1600 and asked, what size are those bedroom windows again? He will probably be living there again in four years.

    This has given McCain a chance to make a bold move and I don’t mean his buddy Joe Lieberman. He, McCain, needs to do at least three things in my view to wrap this thing up by October. First, good acceptance speech at the convention, that focuses on how he is going to fix the economy. He doesn’t have to address policy abroad because most people look at that as a strength he posesses. He needs to pick a VP candidate, and say, he/she is my economic czar, send them to Wall Street the Monday after the convention, and get the financial wizards all in a room and in front of the cameras say, this is not about you anymore, it is about our country, America. Three, highlight the difference in experience between himself and Obama in the debates. I don’t have to introduce myself on the world stage, I have been there for 26 years.

    If he can do these three things and the economy begins to move in a positive direction the two months before the election, I think that John McCain can win, regardless of the Joe Biden pick.

    BTW, is Biden going to run for his Senate seat at the same time? I see that Obama has already taken over his websites and redirected them to his. Talk about idiotic.

    Clinton/Bayh 12

    • voterinexile

      yes, he gets to run for his senate seat in tandem with the GE-VP thing.

      i see Clinton/Bayh in 2012 too…

      • CheapEmptySuit

        Clinton and Governor Mike Easley of NC is my pick. Definitely. NC is a leader in environmental issues. His wife is strong and sweet. Easley adores Hill. He coined the phrase “testicular fortitude” and called fraudbama a pansy.
        2008! Or 2012. Now I can say it because fraudbama seemed to vett everyone we mentioned on the blogs.

        On July 3, 2008, Governor Mike Easley received the first ever “America’s Greatest Education Governor” award presented by the National Education Association (NEA).

  • Faith-No OBamBiDen

    Well, its not ObamaBayh but ObamBiDen isn’t bad. LOL Anyone making bumper stickers?

    I think Biden was forced into this. He must have been given “an offer he can’t refuse”. Someone should check to see if any of his children are being held hostage or something. Just a few days ago he said he’s not the guy. Months ago he said he wouldn’t do it. Now he’s doing it–hmmmmmm.

    • DawnelleWONTVOTE4it

      didn’t bambi say the same damn thing?

      they are both bold faced liars
      perfect for each other

    • CheapEmptySuit

      No one wanted the VP job with fraudbama huh?
      I would speculate that Hill turned him down repeatedly and did it with class.

    • OhioMary

      I actually feel kind of sorry for him – Who would want to be associated with Obama?

      Maybe he is doing it for the good of the country – I like Biden – If God forbid, Obama should win, at least there is someone who could provide some much needed guidance (should the promised one decide to take it).

      I will not vote for him, regardless who he would have picked, but I am thinking Obama’s agenda for the country would not be what what most loyal American’s would pick. I think poor old Biden will be put in a room down the hall and not really be privy to what is going on in the Oval Office should Obama win.

      I think he just chose him because of the flare up of Russia and Iran and knows the American public is not comfortable with not having anyone at the top not knowing what in the world to do. He chose him because everyone knows he doesn’t know how to deal with foreign affairs. He thinks Biden will calm everyone’s nerves.

    • http://BHOtroll memi

      yes, it’s blackmail for good old Joe!

      In 2005 Gunnon had the good on Biden that they “met” together (prostitution) and all senators except Biden signed the letter to the White House for FBI investigation as it involved a SECURITY RISK….

      So Biden’s skeletons in his closet will be coming out soon….

  • yttik

    I think the Republicans are going to have a field day with the Biden/Jeff Gannon mystery.

    For the record I think Avarosis is a hypocrite and I’m no fan of his. He’s also a big Obama supporter who seems to have suddenly forgotten what he wrote about Biden and Jeff Gannon in 2005:

    Is GannonGuckert threatening to out Joe Biden as a customer?
    http://www.americablog.com/2005/03/is-gannonguckert-threatening-to-out.html

    Biden refuses to sign Durbin letter re: Gannon
    http://www.americablog.com/2005/02/biden-refuses-to-sign-durbin-letter-re.html

    Oh, and anybody remember Roger D. Blevins? Convicted and sentanced to three yrs for stealing 412,000 dollars from Biden’s election fund and spending it on dates and to buy lavish presents for performers on a gay pornographic Web site? Porche, jewelry from Tiffany’s, that sort of stuff?

    • mimi

      There it is then.

      Should 0bama get elected, Biden should expect this to come out at some point. Then Barky can choose a VP he really wants. Trust me, he doesn’t want Biden.

  • Judyc

    With our stupid news coverage and idiot “pundits” Americans aren’t going to know a lot of things. Give them some smart, realistic coverage, and they can figure things out just fine. Anyway, I don’t see how this is relevant. A vice president should be knowledgeable regardless of whether the American people are capable of appreciating it.

    Do we need a psychological analysis of a presidential candidate’s choice of a likable man with foreign policy experience for his VP? There are some good reasons not to choose Hillary (if she wanted it in the first place) and you should be able to face up to this fact.

    Psychologically, you should examine your own motivations.

    • mimi

      Most people here didn’t want Hillary anywhere near this ticket. Some did, but most are fine with it.

      That said, it still was a slap NOT to consider her. No other candidate for president would have done that. Hey, even McCain is considering Romney and they are not in love with each other… hardly.

      But real adult politicians make the hard choices. 0bama is a punk kid. He thinks he’s baddass. And not considering Hillary is just another way of thumbing his nose at Hillary’s supporters. In other words, “I’m the nominee and there’s nothing you can do about it, so there!”

      And the Dem leaders are going along with it. They think we have no choice. And many see it that way.

      I don’t.

      They’ll have to:

      WIN WITHOUT ME!

      • voterinexile

        he’s setting up campaign offices is every state except ARKANSAS.

        • CheapEmptySuit

          Is he feeling guilty for the murder of Hillary delegate Gwantney?
          I mean he got killed the day after he signed the petition and every delegate in Arkansas was going to sign it.

      • http://BHOtroll mary

        Mimi

        You nailed it down perfectly!

        Obama’s just a spoiled “punk kid” who thinks he’”baddass”!

        Mature adult politicians are willing to compromise to get where they want to go. So, Kennedy (whose shoes couldn’t be shined by Oblowme) chose Lyndon Johnson, showing maturity and POLITICAL JUDGMENT! Obambi has neither!

        And the beuty is that Biden knows it:

        “Obama’s not ready to be President. The Presidency does not lend itself to on-the-job-training. I’d be honored to run with or against Sen. McCain”

        BIDEN’S A PUMA!

    • s. hall

      judyc — Obama could have gone for the steak instead he seeks the sizzle. He will get neither. 48% of Americans are sick of the sight of Obama. Mr. Hopey/Changey was going to change Washington as we know it with a Washington insider at his side. Too funny really. Now the media says PUMA’s have it in their power to choose the next President. HERE COME THE MCCAINS.

  • Katmoon

    This is Biden’s last hoorah; he wouldn’t try to run for president again, this will be as far as he could go. Simply put, everyone has their price, this was his.

  • Fandango13

    I do like BOJO. Well done.

    PUMA

    • mimi

      BOJO = 2 BOZOs

  • Broke Back Mountain Obambi

    “Is Barack Obama still seeking a father?

    Is he still aching for the father he never had?”

    Broke Back Mountain Obambi gets what HE NEEDS, lol. The guy is one messed up dude.

    • CheapEmptySuit

      His minions have to deal with Biden being the same old boys network and “Washington as usual”.
      B. Hussein Obama lied to his minions. If I were them I’d ask for my money back.

  • A SLAP IN THE FACE

    THIS IS A SLAP IN THE FACE TO 18 MILLION HILLARY SUPPORTERS AND MILLIONS OF WOMEN!!! PLEASE PEASE PLEASE BROADCAST THE PUMA REVOLUTION IN DENVER. AT LEAST SHOW PICTURES OF THE THOUSANDS OF PU-MERICANS BREAKING DOWN THE BARRIERS AND DESTROYING THIS UNHOLY ALLIANCE!

    BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA: MUSLIM TERRORIST, BLACK RADICAL, MURDERER, GAY

    JOE BIDEN: AGENT OF THE ROMAN PAPACY, IRISH-american DERELICT

    WE MUST STOP THESE MEN FROM DESTROYING AMERICA!

    PUMA POWER! GRRRRWL!

    • A SLAP IN THE FACE

      IT IS TIME NOW FOR ACTION! WE MUST BEGIN PLANNING FOR A HILLARY ASSCENDENCY! ONCE THE PUMA FORCES HAVE DEFEATED OBAMA-BIDEN AT THE CONVENTION, WE WILL NEED TO HAVE A FULL TICKET READY FOR HILLARY!

      IT IS TIME TO NOMINATE A VP FOR HILLARY! WAKE UP AMERICA! I SUGGEST GERALDINE FERRARO, OR MAYBE HARRIET CHRISTIAN!

      IF PUMA FORCES ARE NOT ABLE TO OVERTHROW THE CONVENTION, WE MUST FOCUS ON OVERTHROWING THE GOP! I SUGGEST TAKING OVER THE GOP TICKET, MAKE JOHNNY MAC THE VP AND HILLARY THE PRESIDENT! SHE WAS A GOLDWATER GIRL. THEY WILL SUPPORT HER IF JOHNNY MAC CAN BE VP! DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE THE GOP CONVENTION IS, OR HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR PLANS?

      GO PUMA / GO HILLARY/MCCAIN!

      • Dan R.

        You’re dreaming, pal. Hillary is done for this election cycle. It’s over. So vote McCain in November and then pray that Barry Soetoro loses so that Hillary can run again in 2012.

      • Hillcrat

        Having a Kool-Aid hang-over?????

      • Hillcrat

        Having a Kool-Aid hang-over this morning?????

      • Linda C.

        Slap in the face
        You are not for real. Doubt if you are a democrat complaining about Biden being catholic. or maybe you just need to go and take your medicine. The little blue pill the psychiatrist gave you

      • CheapEmptySuit

        Governor Mike Easley

    • jnm594

      Whoa! The fact that he’s gay is not an issue. That he cheated on his wife (with a man), did coke, and has lied about it and is a self loathing hypocrite is the problem. Not that he’s gay. Not all gay men are terrorists, drug users, liars or hate themselves so much that they would destory anyone that questions them.

      • Felix Rodriguez

        Problems with the comment are accusations of BO being muslim and gay and Biden being a “Roman papist”?

        Come on… Either you are a bot or you are the oddest liberal I’ve ever seen.

        • Felix Rodriguez

          Oops, I forgot to include “IRISH-american DERELICT” in the list.

          What century are you in?

  • Andy

    Politically I think Obaa’s choice was focus on keepin PA in the blue column. Rendell likes Biden and Biden is
    very popular it seems in PA. Biden being from Scranton, PA aside he will help Obama carry many of the constituencies that went for HRC beyond the Philly area.
    At least that seems to be the idea.

    PA blue is a must for BO and McCain has been closing the gap there.

    Question now is: does McCain chooses Ridge? Or goes with Pawlenty and puts MN at play?

    I doubt MCain will go with Romney (he was terrible in MA).

    • Dan R.

      McCain will pick Romney. He is his best choice, by far. The rank & file in the GOP want him, he understands economics and the financial markets better than any candidate in either party, he can deliver Michigan and Colorado for McCain, and he has a ton of personal money that he isn’t shy about spending. Finally, if something happens to McCain Romney has the gravitas to be president.

      I will be very surprised if Romney isn’t the pick. I certainly hope that he is. Romney will dance rings around Biden.

      • Cooney

        My money is on a strong Republican woman.

      • Joy

        Dan R., I would love to see a Romney/Biden debate. Biden would clean Romney’s clock and grin while doing it.

    • s. hall

      ANDY — Most people don’t give a damn who the VP is. Obama is the one running for President. I have to laugh at how long it took him to vet the potential VP. Whoever vetted the guy running for President? After 18 months 48% of Americans are sick of looking at Obama’s face. For Biden it will be about 2 days before people are sick of his face.

  • Larse12

    http://larrysinclairbarackobama.com/?p=264#comments

    So now I still ask why was Biden’s name brought up in the arrest of Larry Sinclair after the news Conference. The Sinclair story might have problems. Yet it does seem weird that it was Biden’s state that issued an arrest warrant when Sinclair had no warrants outstanding in Delaware.

    This is going to be a Very interesting election—Oh what a mess the DNC has created by not vetting Obama……Just too many questions open and not answered.

  • politicsIsdirty

    I think Biden is a smart choice. With Biden as his tutor and adviser, the ON THE JOB TRAINING will be easier for him.

  • yttik

    Psychologically? I think Obama probably heard Biden call him clean and articulate and the bottemless Obama-ego ate it up as a compliment. Come on Biden tell me again how clean and articulate I am….

    Biden is going to be Obama’s mirror mirror on the wall.

    • Danny

      Comment by yttik | 2008-08-23 11:34:35

      Oh my gosh, that is so funny!

  • HARP

    Biden`s complete voting record…worth saving for reference.

    http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Joe_Biden.htm

  • Danny

    Biden makes Obama look WEAK – so weak here’s why, he chose Biden to look Presidential where he doesn’t and Americans have already denied Biden the Oval office, his experience and mouth not helping him. Obama has NO EXPERIENCE. Biden has it but it doesn’t help him at all. Biden was selected because he is to bring in the WHITE VOTE, that’s all. But that will never happen because Obama can’t get them with or without token whitey.

    The deal breaker with Americans is they are not going to vote for Obama hoping Biden will run the country like Cheney did and Americans are not going to support a ticket hoping something happens to the #1 so that the #2 can take the #1 position. Can you say Johnson/Kennedy? Never going to happen.

    SO bye bye Democrats – SUCKERS ALWAYS LOSE. WHEN WILL THE ELITE CLASS EVER LEARN??!!

  • http://www.theindependentview.com Matthew Weaver

    Why?! Well, where does one begin…

    First, he was afraid to ask Clinton–both because she intimidated him and, worse, as time went on that she’d tell him “Not no, but hell no.” Second, everyone else was making a spectacle of publicly saying No. Biden apparently was willing to sell himself out for the chance at being VP.

    But what chance? Was Biden just being too nice to say no, wanting to be loyal to the party even at the very high risk of embarrassing defeat in the fall? Even Biden will be very hard pressed to explain how Obama has gained experience and readiness to be president in the past year. How? A celebrity world tour?!

    • Cooney

      Biden is used to losing.

    • danny

      Biden is CORPORATE AMERICA little piggy in Delaware.

  • beebop

    Maybe he just needed someone who can fill in for George Clooney on the tips on speaking?

    But seriously …. found this on the McCain ad comments and had to share:

    Biden won’t be there when the phone rings at 3a.m. … Even if he was it takes him 5000 words just to say hello

    • Hillcrat

      LMAO!!!! :)

  • Dan R.

    OMFG!!! I just woke up up out here on the West Coast and saw the news! Joe Biden? JOE BIDEN???

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

    If there’s a more egotistical, more abrasive asshole in all of Washington DC, I couldn’t imagine who it would be.

    Why did Obama choose him? Simple. He knows that he’s slowly losing this election on the basis of the fact that his resume is pathetically thin and that voters are coming around to the fact that he’s a lightweight who’s nowhere near ready to be Commander-in-Chief. So, he thinks he needs to add “experience” to the ticket. Also, I’m sure that thinks Biden can be an effective “attack dog”, something that when he himself tries to be, it comes off as laughable, as it did yesterday in Chester, VA.

    But there are SO many sound bytes out there of Joe Biden acting as a complete and total idiot that the Republicans must be pissing their pants this morning out of sheer delight. I see where they wasted no time at all coming out with an ad featuring a clip of Biden saying that Obama isn’t ready to be president.

    Christmas came early for McCain this morning.

    Thanks, Barry!!!

  • snowhite

    Biden neither hurts nor helps Obama.Do not understand this pick but have never been in the Obama camp to start with.The men in my family have supported Senator Clinton and now will go elsewhere.

    • John House

      The men in your family are awesome.

      MEN FOR HILLARY.
      BOYS FOR OBAMA.

  • HARP

    IT`S STARTING ALREADY FOLKS:

    If Obama Loses Racism is the only reason McCain might beat him.

    http://www.slate.com/id/2198397/?from=rss

    • roseeriter

      It’s the only CARD Obama has left and most Americans are sick of it and O needs to know when to Fold ‘em.

      Obama is left with the Joker and the jokes on him.

    • Dan R.

      There’s no more reliable indicator that the Obama people feel it slipping away than them starting to whine about “racism”.

    • PKJAYNE

      HARP these articles just make me angrier than I already am.

      I am so sick of hearing if Barry loses it is because of the color of his skin. Truth is he is a shitty candidate. PERIOD.

  • Cooney

    Kennedy was fatherless too. Wonder if there was some deep psychological connection for BO and Caroline. The extrapolation from all of this Susan, is that if your premise is true, God help the women of America if he actually gets elected. He will surround himself with the likes of Caroline Kennedy. Nothing personal against Caroline, but she is really out of her league here.

  • http://undercoverblackman.blogspot.com Undercover Black Man

    Even if Obama loses in November, he has already done this country a great service. He has allowed America to turn the page on the Dysfunctional Dynasty of the Clintons. Psychoanalyze those two, why dontcha, Susan?

    • HARP

      And which part of his 8 years bother you….The peace or the prosperity.

      • Nicole

        Undercover Black Man, by making that statement, just proved he’s an ignorant fool. What a jerk! Not worthy of responding to, actually. (I think this Obamaboil is indicative of the low-information voters supporting ObaME.)

    • Dr. Kate

      you have shit for brains, anchovy.

    • s. hall

      undercover black man — Clinton comes out of the Convention greater and more popular than Obama. There is already buyer’s remorse among SD’s and they haven’t even voted yet. After Obama loses in a landslide — an election the Democrats had in the bag — heads will roll. Anyone who though an arrogant amateur with tons of money behind him could strutt into the White House will get their walking papers and Hillary will be more powerful than ever in the Democratic Party.

      • lester

        Has anybody here seen my old friend’s
        Donna, Nancy, Coward…can you tell me where they’ve gone….lol

    • taters

      ubm,
      What is your beef with Bill Clinton’s two terms? Did you prefer Reagan’s?
      Over 35 million Americans voted for Obama and Clinton in the primaries.
      As Obama supporters are so fond of saying, “Do the math!”

  • ritamary

    I am a happy Hillary Harridan today because Hillary is not taking the vp spot on the losing ticket. No more worries about the Dems using Hillary to prop up the empty suit.

  • Cooney

    I also smell a Michelle odor in this decision.

    • HARP

      Is she stinky too?

      • CheapEmptySuit

        Mo Monkey hates white women. I wonder how this will go over with Biden’s wife?

  • RepublicanChick

    I believe this was an easy choice for Obama. Joe Biden seems likable to many Democrats (gaffes and all) and he’s definitely good for a laugh. Biden, most importantly, gives Obama “credibility” with his years of Senatorial experience and foreign policy opinions. Although, I’ve found many of Biden’s foreign policy opinions to be vague at times.

    Biden Bonuses: As of now, these are the added bonuses of having him on the ticket.

    -Most everyone is certain he was born in the United States and has American parents.

    -No relatives in Africa, or otherwise, for CNN to track down and interview.

    -His wife seems more likable than Michelle. Not that this requires much. Heck, even Teresa Heinz Kerry is likable compared to her.

    -He’s white, but not typical which will help him as he’s from Delaware. Typical white people only seem to be in “redneck areas” according to Obama’s way of thinking.

    -He’s pro-choice and that at least gives Obama a definitive answer the next time someone asks him about abortion. It may be above his paygrade, but it isn’t above Biden’s.

    -Unlike Obama, Biden does venture past the middle of the aisle and works with others on the opposition party. This will be imperative if Obama becomes President. Lord knows he’s pissed off enough people within his own party.

    • Cooney

      If he is so good, why can’t he make it past the first primary state vote in a perpetual run for the presidency. Keep trying.

      • RepublicanChick

        Cooney—you must step away from logic and common sense.

        The question is regarding Obama’s reasons for choosing Biden. It was difficult at first and then I got back to the real question:

        What Would Obama Do?

        The answer just flowed from there.

        :-)

    • s. hall

      Republican Chick — all that said will it make a dime’s worth of difference to voters in the GE when they look at who’s heading the ticket?

      This coming from a Democrat. McCain has run a brilliant campaign. Even Biden thinks he would be the better president.

      Off topic did you see the attack ad against Cindy McCain? More of Obama’mysogny. This is whats going to hurt him in the GE.

      • PKJAYNE

        Please please tell me there isn’t really an attack ad against Cindy McCain. Looks like it is open season on Michelle then.

        • CheapEmptySuit

          Cindy McCain is not stumping for her husband like MEchelle is. Leave her out of this!
          This is not going to sit well with voters.

        • Jane

          The Obama camp is intentionally trying to antagonize McCain into responding. I say they should step back a minute before responding.

          I don’t think it will work well for McCain to attack Michelle.

  • NoBO

    I’m not sure about the psychology of this choice but Biden adds training wheels. It’s a way to ensure the public that the inexperienced Obama won’t press the wrong button at the wrong time. It’s a way of saying Obama has adult supervision.

  • Dr. Kate

    Here are my top 10 reasons why barky chose biden

    1. He could not stand another white woman in his life, so pure petty psychological bullshit issues he has yet to work out.

    2. Trying to appease his “inner cracker” (h/t to commentor above)

    3. A favor for getting Larry Sinclair out of the news that day

    4. He needs someone just as insecure as he is–a huge ego, lots of bravado.

    5.* Designed to prevent his supporters from looking more closely at Barky. His supporters are going to go nuts with the pro war establishment biden. This keeps them fighting with eachother and trying to attack PUMAs with shit on Biden

    6. Create a distraction–have everyone focus on biden so we don’t look too closely at barky

    7. He got a promise from biden that biden would shut up and not outshine him

    8. Electoral votes in pennsylvania

    9. He still thinks he has better judgment than all of us

    10. Want’s biden to be the attack dog so barky can “stay above it all”.

    BArky has too many personal problems that affect his judgment. He needs to quit now, enter therapy, and stop doing drugs.

    Barky is nothing more than a petty tyrant.

    • CheapEmptySuit

      This bears repeating…

      Barky is nothing more than a petty tyrant

    • Perry Logan

      Also, Biden was the only one who would take the job.

  • Hillcrat

    A just released statement from Senator Hillary Clinton:

    “In naming my colleague and friend Senator Joe Biden to be the Vice Presidential nominee, Senator Obama has continued in the best traditions for the Vice Presidency by selecting an exceptionally strong, experienced leader and devoted public servant. Senator Biden will be a purposeful and dynamic Vice President who will help Senator Obama both win the Presidency and govern this great country.”

    McCain 2008!!
    Hillary 2012!!!

    • RepublicanChick

      Senator Biden better not be too “purposeful” or things could get real ugly at Camp Obama. :-)

      • Hillcrat

        Just hope Biden knows how many states in US..48? 57? They better come to an agreement soon…lol!

        • RepublicanChick

          Hillcrat, you’re assuming one of them can be quiet enough to reach an agreement. :-)

    • harvey

      Sorry Hill, (like BS), I’m not biting. This has been a great country because this great country has oppsed people like Obama a/k/a Soetoro since it’s founding.

    • CheapEmptySuit

      Is she relieved? Sounds like it.

  • Deep Truths

    They are both nuts. Biden running for 20 years and never had a chance, just running for the sake of it. Democrats in America have looked at Biden and found him wanting primary after primary.

    I think the Delaware warrant against Larry Sinclair has a lot to do with this pick. One narcisstic nut bribing another narcisstic nut – all in the name of President of the United States.

    • PewL

      No wonder the Democrats can’t win elections…Maybe getting Pelosi,Dean,and Brazile,out The Dems could have a winning team…

      Takes lots of money to win elections I guess George Soros, pulled enough strings..

      Not giving up Hillary for President

  • John

    Joe Biden accepted the VP spot on the day that he announced he was running for President.

  • PKJAYNE

    GAME OVER

  • Annie

    I guess Biden will do anything to become POTUS. With a 2% win in the primaries he will have to.

    Looking forward to the next slew of videos coming out of the Republican camp – should be fun.

    • Tattie

      Wow a Whole 2% win is what Papa Joe brings to the ticket. I question Obama judgement on this one

  • Andy Lewis

    Because no one else would take the job?

    The truth can now be told: Axelrod called the other day and offered the position. I told him to fuck off. ;)

    A better question is, why did Biden ssy yes? I suspect it’s because he was too drunk to realize he should refuse.

    • lester

      ROFLMAO>>>

  • simanov

    New McCain ad already out: Joe Biden On Barack Obama

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDVUPqoowf8&eurl

    • Katmoon

      Thank you, good one!

  • robert

    Dear, God, please let Biden drop one of his jaw dropping racial gaffes during one of the debates. One like the 7-11 Indian immigrant gaffe would be nice.

  • harvey

    Obama will still be the one who has to make the decisions regardless who his VP is, and Obama is not known for making good decisions. Regardless of any other issues, most Americans would still prefer a president who is friendlier toward America than he is with Africa or Indonesia. Joe Biden, no doubt loves America, but Obama’s preacher of 20 years tells us Obama does not share that commonallity with Joe. And there is in Soetoro’s book his own words in black on white “A world in need run by white men’s greed”. Joe Biden is another politician not a worker of miracles.

    • wodiej

      I agree…

    • John House

      Ah, but see that quote about white mens’ greed in Soetoro’s first book is a quote directly from Jeremiah Wright’s “Audacity of Hope” sermon; Soetoro was writing about the “oh so moving” sermon that he attended and was quoting it (boy, wouldn’t it be nice to get a hard copy of the sermon itself?).

      So people should realize crystally clear that Obama sure DID know that Wright was/is a race-baiting/racist dick, and since he joined his church anyway, well…do the effing math (Obama = race-baiting/racist dick).

  • typical.white.person

    BREAKING NEWS!: Obama chooses Gov. Tim Kaine for VP slot

    Chicago – Barack Obama has chosen Gov. Tim Kaine of Virginia as his vice presidential running mate, bringing to the ticket a politician who could reinforce Obama’s message of change but who also shares the drawback of inexperience.

    Obama’s decision – kept secret amid intense speculation as next week’s Democratic convention draws near – was announced via text messages and e-mails to supporters.

    Kaine, who took office in January 2006 and who previously was lieutenant governor and mayor of Richmond, grew up in the Kansas City area. Fluent in Spanish, he worked as a missionary in Honduras before graduating from Harvard Law School, where Obama also earned a degree.

    Together with the 47-year-old Obama, Kaine, 50, would give the Democrats the youngest presidential ticket since 1992, when 46-year-old Bill Clinton selected 44-year-old Al Gore as his running mate.

    Er, uh, Egg on the face for the LA Times

  • gotalife

    Now we have three corrupt Senators.

    Business as usual and lots of bs.

    Clinton/Clark 12!

  • Broke Back Mountain Obambi

    Jeff Gannon + Barack Obambi + Joe Biden = three peas in a pod, how sweet!

  • Annie

    I am not John McCain but I also most certainly do approve this message.

    Great stuff and so fast……yeah….this is going to be great…

    McCain for President!
    ===========================================
    =Comment by simanov | 2008-08-23 12:03:39

    New McCain ad already out: Joe Biden On Barack Obama

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDVUPqoowf8&eurl
    ====================================

  • Gayle in Oregon

    Biden is not a bad choice. Hillary was the best choice. Obama has begun to believe his own hype and is overconfidant like lots of rock star rookies. Sure B is a father figure, too, But, dont forget most of his top picks refused to take the job months ago. None of us really know if Hillary really wanted the job anyway. I am relieved because now I can vote McCain easily.

    If Hillary had been number 2 and McCain picks the financial genious Romney, I would have had a tough choice. I think our country needs a financial genious to get us back on track. Hillary would have been able to do it, too, had she been in the top slot, but vps have little real power unless the pres wants them to have it and O would not have give Hill any power.

    • Obama’s gums look sick

      McCain will pick Bloomberg. The Reps have the Dream Team.

  • Broke Back Mountain Obambi

    Let me EDIT that, lol.

    Jeff Gannon + Joe Biden = Barack Obambi + Larry Sinclair

    Sugar daddy!!
    Son

  • kgirl1028

    I think he pick Bided cause everyone else said no. with the things biden said about him during the early part of the race. hillary would have been a much better choice.

  • Mr. X

    Oy vey. Joe Biden. I think I’m coming over to you nuts’ side. Worst. Pick. Ever.

    I can’t vote for McCain. Guess I’ll have to sit out another one.

  • typical.white.person

    Kevin Drum:

    THE BIDEN EFFECT….I think this poll result from the Washington Post pretty much summarizes what non-obsessives think about Obama’s choice of Joe Biden for vice president: they don’t care. Asked if it would affect their vote, only a quarter said it would, and that quarter was split almost down the middle. There’s just no effect at all.

    WaPo: The Impact of Biden

    Barack Obama’s choice of Joe Biden as his running mate is unlikely to shake-up the presidential horse race. In a new Washington Post-ABC News poll completed last night, three-quarters of voters said picking Biden would not sway their votes one way or the other. And about as many said they would be more apt to support Obama with Biden on the ticket as said the choice would make them less likely to vote Democratic on Election Day (13 to 10 percent).

  • mimi

    Any of you all see this quote from an ap article this morning :

    A senior Obama adviser, speaking on condition of anonymity, said his boss has expressed impatience with what he calls a “reverence” inside his campaign for his message of change and new politics. In other words, Obama is willing — even eager — to risk what got him this far if it gets him to the White House.”

    I just visited an anti-Hillary blog that I no longer go to. Although many of these leftwing nuts are expressing patience with the choice, as info is emerging about Biden, a few are going batshit. One even threatened: “Obama better not move any further to the right of center after he gets elected.”

    Suckers!!!

    This guy used the left, AAs and all the anti-Bush sentiment. He’s an inexperienced, unqualified juvenile, a conflicted biracial man, who wants to be POTUS by any means necessary. If he gets elected, it’s anybody’s guess what will happen.

    It’s sad that Bush put the country into such a desperate mindset that we’d be willing to “throw out the baby with the bathwater.”

    0bama needs to be stopped.

    It’s no plainer than that. He stands for nothing except his own personal ambition. He has a hidden agenda and it’s based on his own personal issues and conflicts.

    Election 2008 has been a disaster of gargantuan proportions.

    • wodiej

      I agree, Bush got the ball rolling by stealing the WH in 2000, probably 04 also. This set up the current situation. But I always thought most Dem’s were better than that. I think the little punks and thugs in their 20′s are what is propping Obama up. They are ok with dishonesty, cheating and stealing. Being vulgar, nasty and threatening, they dont’ care. They don’t listen to reason either.

      It is still difficult for me to believe that there is not a silver lining in here somewhere like the Dem’s set up a shitty nominee on purpose to throw off the Repub’s thinking they would have a weak opponent and then at the last minute bring in Hillary. The only reason I even entertain that thought is because I cannot believe so many Dem leaders and the DNC could possibly be THIS STUPID to continue pushing Obama. But apparently they are.

      • PewL

        I think Obama is a plant, to make the republicans think Obama is the nominee.The Clinton’s have a few dates to speak next week,and Dick Morris, I think let it slip, that Clinton would also be speaking Thursday nite…Now why would she speak on the nite Obama accepts the nomination…Unless he passes it to her,which he should, because he didn’t earn this nomination.imo..

        Clinton for President
        Biden Her VP… imo

    • CheapEmptySuit

      STOP HIM IN DENVER! Super D’s..pledged d’s..stop him.

  • bunchick

    So Barry says Hillary voted for the Iraq war which makes her unqualified to be president & yet Biden also voted for the war based on the same arguments that Hillary made….and yet Biden’s qualified to be his VP?

    Democrats lost the race with Gore, Kerry, and now their precious chosen Golden Child…guess they really are the Dumbocrats!
    (Too dumb to see a winning ticket when they had one…Hillary of course)

    • mimi

      Dumbocrats! That just amount sums the Party up.

      And 0bama has the ears to prove it!

  • Bud White

    Kennedy was mature enough, seasoned, enough, and astute enough to get beyond his personal animus towards Lyndon Johnson, and he was able to make the politically essential choice.

    Biden is a terrible choice. I like the guy, but doesn’t help Obama get to 270

    • Andy

      Bud:

      I think the idea is Biden will help Obama carry PA b/c Biden–the theory is– will rally HRC supporters there.

      I think that was their bottom calculation re. positives besides the foreign affairs experience which can be view as a plus or a minus (ie. enhances what Obama has not).

  • PewL

    I think Hillary chose Biden for her VP.I think Obama was a plant,and will resign his position on Thursday nite at his speech…If I’m wrong,than Mccain will win the election, because Obama will never pull enough votes,to win the White House.imo

    • The Real Hope

      We have to face reality here. Hillary is out. PERIOD!

  • harvey
  • typical.white.person

    UPDATE: Something else just occurred to me. In the primaries in which Biden competed, he got — what — typically 1 to 2% of the vote?

    Facts are stubborn things. In anyone’s book, Biden’s failures in the primaries to win over voters are empirical evidence that Joe Biden is NOT capable of adding voters to the Obama/Biden ticket. He campaigned and campaigned and campaigned, and yet what did he EVER have to show for it? Biden never — not once — took off. How in the world does Obama think that Biden will succeed with voters any better than he did in the primaries? Again: Why pick someone like Biden when you can pick someone like Hillary who is a PROVEN MAGNET for large voter turnout? It makes no sense.

    personal animus

    resentment – Hillary showed Obama for what he is, when she slaughtered him by continuing the election on during the last 10-12 states
    emotional immaturity

    fear of the other’s success (his own shortcomings)

    Obama’s personality style is, like GWB’s, one of self-sabotage. He will shoot himself in the foot and ultimately fail, just to take his histility out on another person who he is (jealous, envious, bitter?) towards.

  • SlowBurn

    why can’t mccain pick hillary as vp?

    • bunchick

      Thats exactly what I was thinking! Its a well known fact that McCain is trying to win over the Hillary voters who say they won’t vote for chosen Golden Child & actually say they are voting for McCain….so I think it would be a great political shock for McCain & Hillary to run together and run on the platform of having both parties truly work together for the good of ALL Americans…unlike the
      Whitey haters (Obama & family) who are only running for me…me….me…

      Is it me or is Obama really smiling like a horse?

      • CheapEmptySuit

        He’s smiling like MR. Ed the talking horse. He has been compared to Mr. Ed a time or two.

        • CheapEmptySuit

          I mean Francis the talking horse. Mr Ed is the hound dog Governor of PA.

    • John House

      There is no reason he can’t, technically. It’s called a split ticket…just like Lincoln/Johnson was Republican/Democrat, McCain/Clinton would be the same.

      It would turn all of the conservatives who have Clinton Derangement Syndrome on their ear, but it just might shock them to think “Oh hey, guess what–it doesn’t matter, we’re gonna WIN!”

  • Obama’s gums look sick

    Biden never got any traction on the national scene, just like John Edwards failed to connect with voters at large. And now we learn later why there was something always wrong with John Edwards.

    I think Biden’s early plagerizing charges have tainted him in the minds of many voters who remember this. (All us older voters)

    White guys having to cheat to get ahead, particularly in the era when white guys had all the advantages just does not go down well, no matter how many years and now many decades of public service and personal tragedy later.

    The choice of Biden underscores every single Obama weakness, offers nothing new, no buzz, no electoral college benefits, and death to the McCain “ageism” scuttle.

    Obama had no good choices for VP because this is a party highly flawed, divided against itself and hell bent on personal destruction. Obama is its last flameout and there was no one of quality who wanted a ride on his sinking ship. At his age, Biden could afford to join this political suicide mission.

    Nothing more needs to be said.

  • Andy

    SusanUnPC:

    I am glad it is not HRC really. I think it is terrible he didn’t really seriously consider her once nor ever wanted her. He ALWAYS dodged the question (unlike HRC who was clearer about Obama being her VP).

    I don’t want HRC being subdued to a lesser man. The ONLY calculation I would have made is that should Obama implode before November it will be now on Biden’s hands and not HRC’s. That’s a pitty. But it would have been politically very difficult for HRC really to win under those circumstances.

    But I agree that Obama’s blind arrogance for HRC is
    disgusting.

    • Obama’s gums look sick

      I am also glad I was not asked to choose an Obama-Clinton ticket either. Thank you Obama for not dragging Hillary into your failed campaign, though it would have provided you the winning edge.

      But I doubt if I ever would have supported this last and final Obamination. You are toast, Obama. Thank goodness.

  • HARP

    Biden has accepted $5,133,072 in contributions from lawyers and lobbyists since 2003. Obama does not accept contributions from federally registered lobbyists.

    And he has one other weakness that hasn’t received much attention to date. One of Biden’s sons, Hunter, is a registered Washington lobbyist in a year in which Obama has been excoriating lobbyists and the culture of corruption in Washington. The younger Biden is a name partner at the firm Oldaker, Biden & Belair, LLP, and seems to have specialized in lobbying for just the kind of earmark spending by Congress that Obama has vowed to slash. Republican insiders say the party is likely to make an issue of Biden’s family lobbying ties.

    Also expect to hear more about Biden’s close ties with credit card companies. His largest contributor (based on total contributions by employees) over the past five years has been MBNA, the Delaware-based bank aquired in 2005 by Bank of America than until then was the world’s largest independent credit card issuer and a major supporter of the 2005 bankruptcy bill that Biden crossed the aisle to support.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/23/bidens-lobbying-ties/

  • The Real Hope

    They look like the odd couple. It looks as if Biden is chaperoning Obama now. It makes Obama look even younger and even more inexperienced and green then he already does look.

    And to think that Obama didn’t even vet HIllary. A true slap in the face. Biden, although I like him and respect him, will not close the sale for me.

  • Cooney

    Deep in the recesses of the Obama psyche he wants to lose.

    • Obama’s gums look sick

      For the good of the country, Obama has to know he is unfit to actually govern. A guy bouncing credit cards 8 years ago has to know he is a total fraud. Let’s hope he acts this psycho-drama out and falls on his own sword.

      Picture Obama Chief Justice of the Supreme Court
      Picture Obama Speaker of the House
      Picture Obama Senate Majority Leader
      Picture Obama Secretary of State

      You can’t.

      Picture Obama as a first time candidate for a local school board.

      Now we are talking.

      Picture Obama President of the United States when you cannot picture him in any other single role of national leadership and prominence.

      NEVER!!!!!!

  • Obama’s gums look sick

    The real person to watch in the Obama campaign is this Stern character, head of the SEIU, one of the largest special interest group employee unions who was the very first person Obama met after taking the presumptive nomination.

    Obama being putty in the hands of publically-funded employee unions of all stripes is what needs a lot more scrutiny before he totally ruins the federal budget with his peculiar brand of politicallly powerful federal welfare and “job creation”.

  • bnq

    i was watching msnbc this morning and some commentator said without a hint of irony that obama picked biden because he needed someone with testosterone. It was between ten and 11. Can someone help me find this clip?

  • Ohio Bill

    No offense intended but do you all understand, you, this place and places like it are what made Hillary unacceptable as VP. Who would want a VP who’s core support is made up of people who hate him, no one.

    If you bring up Kennedy, I ask how that worked out for Kennedy.

    Pat yourselves on the back, not only could you not retire Hillary’s debt (would have cost about (75 cents each) if each of her “18 Million” has contributed.

    You also made her an impossible pick as VP, bravo….bravo. this is what hate get you, well played.

    • bnq

      and what evidence do you have that the majority of hillary supporters hate obama?

      and stop with the debt. i would love to help pay it off, but i was maxed out from the primaries and unlike obama we don’t have the ability to just opt out of following campaign finance rules

      • Obama’s gums look sick

        I hate Obama. There is nothing that will rescue his campaign.

        And you snot-nosed little punks who maliciously support him while hating everyone else are his worst campaign liability. Oh yes, they are whom he calls his supporters.

        You are toast, Obama. You peaked after your last jack-booted caucus.

        • bnq

          I think you would profit from what my civil pro teacher used to always say: “the pluran of anecdote, is NOT evidence”

        • bnq

          I think you would profit from what my civil pro teacher used to always say: “the plural of anecdote, is NOT evidence”

          • Obama’s gums look sick

            And my Civ Pro professor said: repetition of anedote does not constitute legal testimony.

            Nor do a few Obamabots let loose on late night computers make a winning national campaign.

    • Obama’s gums look sick

      We would have hated to see Clinton be Obamanations VP pick. We did get what we wanted. And yes, you are right, let’s all keep chipping away at Hillary’s debt.

      We owe her one for being the lone stalking horse for all the hatred still so easily perpetrated against women. We owe it to her for bringing this festering boil out of the dark recesses of institutionalized US misogyny.

    • Clinton Fan

      Are you stupid or inattentive? Or do you think your moronic commentary is “baiting” in some fashion?

      We do not WANT Senator Clinton to be forced to carry that dead weight over the finish line.

      WE are pleased that he did not choose her.

      His arrogance–and misogyny–are apparent in that he didn’t even pretend to vet her, but that is HIS problem, not hers.

      You aren’t too swift. You are plainly checkers, not chess. And FWIW, when you start out saying “no offense intended,” you clearly do intend offense–so cut the shit, pudpuller.

      A real master “baiter” you are…. :roll:

    • Katmoon

      So glad she isn’t VP, no longer a whipping post for the likes of you.

    • CheapEmptySuit

      Hillary didn’t want to be his VP. Obama is the one who is unacceptable. Hello???

    • Dr. Kate

      nice try, bot. that dog doesn’t hunt here. HRC didn’t want the VP slot.

      What sank the nomination for her was Barky’s insecurity, is psychological problems with white women, is arrogance, and juvenile petulence.

      She was never in his mind, period.

      Put the blame squarely on the shoulders of THE ONE, the petty tyrant named Soetoro/Obama.

      Obama will be disqualified. his lies have gone on too long.

  • JS

    This has got to be the silliest article, true or not. EVERYONE has some sort of issues, this is part of being a human being.

  • Peter D

    I am still waiting to see when Mr Obama HUSSEIN will be jailed?

  • JS Ruby

    Just now reading this post. My feeling is it was Biden, because nobody else wanted the job. HRC would have been crasy to take it. I hope JM doesn’t screw up his chance with the wrong VP pick. If so, I think we need a catagory called “None of the Above” for this election.

    HRC 2012

  • Deborah C

    Psychologically? Obama realized he was in over his head and needed experience. He knew he is a midget compared to McCain in terms of experience, so he needed a big hitter. But MOST IMPORTANTLY he needed someone who would not outshine him on the campaign trail like Hillary would.

  • Peter D

    I don’t care who is Mr HUSSEIN’s VP, I will never vote for this empty suite!

    • John House

      I see your comments on every post here at NoQ and I just have to say–it’s SUIT, not SUITE. They are two different words.

  • indypol

    THUD!

    Well, that was the VP pick *not* heard around the world.

    This selection proves, once and for all, that the question has never been ‘who does Obama want”; it’s “who wants Obama?” And the answer was obvious : very few people. Obama scraped the bottom of the A-List for Biden, a failed, two-time presidential candidate who garnered negligible support in the country.

    Biden’s foreign policy expertise is considerable, but he has impulse control problems (he had his own macaca moment), semi-creepy business dealings, a sort of slimy used car salesman demeanor, he voted for the Iraq War (so much for change) and he’s only five years younger than McCain, which means that the anti-old meme that they used against McCain will vanish.

    Now I see why Obama stoked the suspense and mystery for one week : 1) to distract us from the Saddleback fiasco, and 2) the Biden pick is incredibly anti-climactic and uninspired. They knew that the the dog wouldn’t bark, so they surrounded him with cattle prods and fed him lots of steroids before letting him out for a walk. It reminds me of that song, ‘Is That All There Is?”

    Biden is the sacrificial lamb, the designated driver who will make sure that a few people (ie the party leadership) don’t sink into the ocean when Titanic hits the iceberg. The party elders are signalling that this thing is over.

    • Obama’s gums look sick

      17 million Clinton supporters are not comforted by this VP choice. Obama yet again gets and “F” in leadership.

      • CheapEmptySuit

        I am so comforted. I’m going to stroll the beach with a light step and light heart that it’s not Hillary. Biden can go down with the ship. Hiilary is stronger than ever…she’ll get a fair election soon enough.

    • Obama’s gums look sick

      Hey, Deleware is now fully in the tank for Obama. Huzzah, huzzah.

  • Michael

    Hillary did not want it because she did not want to have to disclose Bill’s foundation donors and did not want to have to baby sit Bambi and let him take all the credit. But she (with a gun in her back) rode the party unity pony for her own political future after it was clear that the PUMAs et al were seriously not falling in lockstep. Bambi never considered her. The unity agreement was to campaign as united to fool the voters. This was patronizing and must have infuriated her, but it saves her career. However, the voters are not so stupid. It didn’t work. The polls show it and Bambi’s intermal polls must be a lot worse.

    Calling us racist for not supporting him backfired too. John McCain was able to use tactics to rebut that sort of ploy that Hillary could not use because she could not hit a fellow Democrat hard. My big quarrel with the DNC was that they refused to vet Bambi. She warned what would happen if he were not vetted. Anyone who didn’t drink the kool aid could see. Heck, you could find out most of the stuff on the internet. Sign me up for a “We told you so” bumber sticker.

    Then Putin handed the election to McCain while Bambi was playing like a teenager (just like Bush) away on vacation, on the beach, or in the gym. This completely erased Bambi’s rock concert tour in Europe and backfired because it made him look like just a rock star. When he opens his mouth on foreign policy you want to crawl under the bed. (and I’m a 40 year democrat!) I think that Caroline and Eric had the familiar names on the list and they did not include Biden before all this happened. With McCain even or ahead of Bambi in the polls and the vetting producing the obvious results, the O campaign panicked and threw the last item under the $389,423,102 bus: Obama’s entire brand of change and new politics. Biden has no risk of running and losing because his sentate seniority. He is doing this for the party and perhaps for his son’s career. Note that one of Biden’s biggest contributors is the law firm that paid hush money to Edwards’ mistress.

    The Democratic party, with its cages waiting for PUMA protesters, its Chicago Combine political tactics, and its boy/godfather neo facist dictator and his team of thugs, is dead. May it rest in peace. Biden is an elder foot soldier attempting resucitation.

    • Obama’s gums look sick

      Obama freakout supporters scared the DNC shitless, fearing another 1968 Chicago convention debacle if they did not immediately come over to the Obama trainwreck.

      And there you have the history of the 2008 Dem nomination process in a nutshell.

    • Clinton Fan

      Did John Kerry disclose Teresa’s business holdings?

      No, he didn’t.

      Your premise is absurd.

      The Democratic Party isn’t dead. It will rebuild and come back in four years, and we’ll elect Senator Clinton to the Presidency.

      You only get one shot at a coup, and Obama’s attempt has failed miserably.

      IN the meantime, a DEMOCRATIC Congress will have to earn their pay and keep an eye on President Johnny.

  • beverly leslie

    Bambi – Biden = Bush – Cheney

    No way, No thanks.

    Hey obots. we are more than happy that Hillary is not on the ticket. Whomever associates themselves with this trainwreck is staining their career. Hillary will come out of this the most powerful Democrat in the Senate and you OBots can shove that up your ass!

    The U.S.A. is setting a horrible precedent by choosing incompetant presidents with stronger V.P. This is a disgrace and you obots should hide your stupid face.

  • fred

    Joe Biden got 9,500 votes during his 2008 election bid, so don’t expect him to help Obama with voters…I would say Joe would bring a .05 bounce to the polls for Obama

    • Obama’s gums look sick

      I would say more Clinton supporters will defect leaving no Biden Bounce. Trend puts independents and undecided more and more into the McCain camp. Why vote for a fake white guy when you can vote for the real thing. McCain 2008

    • Peter D

      I agree. The people, especially, Obots think that chosing JB as HUSSEIN’s VP will get a big bump in the polls – that is a big mistake. My prediction would be Obama might get 2-3% higher, and then go down to the bottom.

    • CheapEmptySuit

      LOL! Stupid is as stupid does. I guess no one else wanted to be on fraudbamas ticket. LOL It looks like fraudbama will gain 9,500 more voters for this VP pick of a Washington INSIDER who voted FOR the war in IRAQ.. (Obots are you listening/) OBOTS HAVE BEEN BAMBOOZLED.

  • Susan1968

    Biden voted FOR the Bush Bancruptcy/banking bill that opened the door to predatory lending.

    Not a way to help the little guy.

  • Susanjane

    I have always liked Biden, but he cannot help Barry. I would not vote for Obama if he had Jesus Christ as a running mate. His arrogant dismissive attitude towards women, especially Hillary just makes it easier for me to dismiss him. And BTW, I would love a McCain-Fiorina ticket.

    • Obama’s gums look sick

      I liked Bobby Jindal, but darn it about that exorcism treatise to always haunt him, except in the nicely pagan Louisiana.

      • Joy

        Louisiana is only 1/3 pagan the other 2/3′s are Catholic and Baptist.

  • bunchick

    Biden just recently suggested that USA send Georgia ONE BILLION dollars and Obama agreed…

    Get ready for a BIG HUGE MASSIVE spending spree American taxpayers! These 2 are going to OUTSPEND Bush & Cheney on your taxdollars…..Suckers!

    • Peter D

      Anyone who becomes HUSSEIN’s VP will destroy his/her own political career.

      • CheapEmptySuit

        I guess that Biden doesn’t care about his carreer. He’s ready to retire anyway. OBOTS-Biden is your “washington as usual” VP pick. How does that make you feel?

  • fred

    Give me McCain/Crist or McCain/Patlin then we have a blanced ticket, Crist have given healthcare to Floridians, The first state to use use energy reform ethanol fuel, Hes funded enviromential programs, restore the right to vote to ex felons giving obver 600,000 the right to vote, Invest in school in Florida that allowed 12 failing school to bring there school and students up to passing school.
    Sarah Patlin wonder stong Gov of Alaska ..WIN WIN

  • fred

    balance*

  • fred

    McCain/Crist or Mcain’Patlin both winning tickets

  • kcfromtx

    Susan, I don’t think obambi thinks he needs any help getting votes. Didn’t he say he was getting all Hillary’s votes already? He needed someone with knowledge and a willingness to do the actual work since he doesn’t plan on doing any of it.
    Go John McCain.

  • Obama’s gums look sick

    Never forget the only thing that got this Obama trainwreck going was thesurgivcally busty, enhanced Obama Girl luring in pimply faced lonely young men late night on their computers. Obama was nothing until these pimply-faced loners started the anti-establishment buzz about this loser.

    This is the first internet election and those few lonely boys who lusted after Obama Girl are the only ones the Dems eventually let the Obama people define their campaign of “inevitability”.

    They think they are legion; they are not. And they remain pimply-faced lonely little boys who will never get the Obama Girl.

    Obama is all about anti-establishment. It has never been about Obama himself because there is no there there. Nor does Biden offer a single balancing feature to a non-existent campaign.

    America is now past the novelty of this faux internet anti-establishment campaign and the bling of the Obama Girl. Obama is toast.

  • fred

    McCain/Crist or Mcain/Patlin both winning tickets

  • Peter D

    McCain/Hillary is the best for America.

  • Susan1968

    I thought Obama was going to turn the page. He picks a guy who’s more cemented in the beltway than both Clintons combined.

    Biden’s son is a lobbyist.

    Biden crossed the aisle and voted for the Bush Bankruptcy bill which was a big gift to banks and began the cycle of predatory lending.

    Biden spends a lot of time with his foot in his mouth.

    And, if Obama manages to squeek a win and serve two terms, Biden will be older than McCain is now in 2016 and will never run.

    This proves to me Obama’s judgment sucks.

    It also proves that the Dean-Pelosi-Brazile cabal are able to manipulate him at their will because their forst priority is to strip the Clintons of pwoer in the DNC.

    This choice REEKS of their strategy.

    And if Obama is not strong enough to resist being manipulated by them, he will lose big.

  • Dean

    Two arrogant men on a ticket. I am moving over to the Puma’s if they take men!!! I will bring all my Brother’s with me. Here we come John McCain if Hillary doesn’t get the nominee!

    • CheapEmptySuit

      Oh yes! Come aboard! Pumas are old, young and in between, as well as Men & women of all colors and opinions from all 50 STATES in the nation. Welcome aboard more PUMAS! This movement is here to stay.

      • just me

        welcome Dean our house is a wonderful house! You will meet many friends here at Puma Palace…

  • http://lesstalkmoreactivism.blogspot.com/ whoframedrudy

    “The U.S.A. is setting a horrible precedent by choosing incompetant presidents with stronger V.P.”

    Amen to that a thousand times. Obama = Bush.

  • http://! Buzz Latte

    This Obama and Biden thing reminds me of the name of a band…

    Oh yeah…

    LED ZEPPLIN!

    • http://! Buzz Latte

      oh that would be “zeppelin”

      • John House

        And that would be “Lead”, as in a lead pipe, because this bitch is goin’ down like one. ;)

  • Susan1968

    The more I think about it. The more I believe Dean chose Biden.

    Den is tuck in Titantic logic.

    He’s so sure 2008 was a DNC lock no matter who ran, that he used this election cycle to dump the Clintons.

    Dean: This is an unsinkable ship! we don’t need any lifeboats! Icebergs ahead? Hey – this is an unsinkable ship! Go faster.

  • margoharris

    Hate is a very distructive emotion. A movement built on hate will never win. Hate hurts the hater more than the object of hate. You people who worship Hillary are looking pretty sick and sad at this point. I think Sen. Obama would have pick Hill in a heartbeat if her husband didn’t come with the package. So be mad at ole Bill, he is the one who is holding her back. I like Hillary and would have supported her if she won. McLame is totally unacceptable to me as a woman and a democrat. The nasty references to Obama are sad and pathetic and totally erases your credibility. Sen. Obama will win because the American People will fix this mess the Rethuglicans have foisted on us and not send another neo-con warmonger to the WH.

    • Clinton Fan

      Hey, you–stupid!!!

      One more time, we did NOT want Clinton to have to carry your lame-ass candidate over the finish line.

      Why can’t you morons understand that ?

      You like the Messiah. We think he is dogshit. We do not want our candidate dragged down by him.

      You got one thing right, though, tool.

      A movement built on hate will NEVER WIN.

      The Hillary Hatred your crew has spewed, like vomitous drunkards, has exceeded anything seen in the modern campaign era.

      You reap what you sow. And you’ll have one helluva harvest to look forward to.

      If you want that crow done medium well, be sure to tell your waiter.

      Happy eating come November, ya pudpulling nitwit!

      :lol: :mrgreen: :lol:

    • bunchick

      This hate comment coming from a Obama-bot who thrived on Hillary hatred in the beginning!!! It is going to be such sweeeeet revenge to watch all the Obama-Pods wail & cry their racist song when their
      Chosen Golden Child loses the Democratic election….one again…

      Can’t believe the Dem’s are going for 3 election losses in a row!!!

    • CheapEmptySuit

      Her Husband??? Hey dingbat. Her Husband is well loved across this country. Those tiny few who hate him thinks that everyone hates the Clintons-wrong again. Seems like you all are the ones who are haters. Your hate is for whites and for the Clintons.
      We are just pushing back the hatred. Got it?

    • Obama’s gums look sick

      If The Chosen One is so scared of Bill Clinton, he publically makes his case he is totally unfit to be POTUS.

  • Soldier of Christ

    Come on- Noquarterusa- we know why he picked Biden. The name Larry Sinclair ring a bell? If you had a pest like this day in and day out, and the son of Biden helped you shut his mouth- wouldn’t you reward him? Yes- these people cannot fool the assembly of elders. I am sure Rev Manning is laughing at them too! Payback is the reward- and losing will be the outcome- for what you sow is what you reap.

  • JayD

    All I have really learned form all this is that Obama is really quite the child. It’s sad, actually, that he drags the nation along like a toy on a string but that is what he is doing. He is going to have a horrible crash at some point, I see it coming. And as much as I dislike the boy that he is, I wish him a speedy recovery from his maddness once he goes head over heels into the abyss.

  • http://www.ushistory.org/Declaration/document/index.htm Hillary’sSimplytheBest

    They look more like father and son… no psycho drama there… LOL

    Did anyone think the 3AM text message was BOBO’s answer to Hillary 3AM phone call? What a joke…

    Yup… now he’s in S. IL. playing up MR JB’s foreign policy cred’s. “Joe Biden gets it” LOL …

    But Barack Obama doesn’t… LOL

    What a losing ticket if ever there was one, so sad and funny too. Two 24hr gaffe machines back to back.

    Fox and the McCain camp are loving this pick…

    • CheapEmptySuit

      This is very bad for fraudbama camp. Biden sold the people of all colors up the river with his predatory lending bill. HAVE AT IT! All you people of color that lost homes with loans you didn’t understand need to think twice. These two old boys network team are dangerous.

  • SlowBurn

    metaphor for biden’s role in the obama-ticket:

    “Bring Up Baby!”

    [I stole the idea from the bitterpoliticz blog]

  • SlowBurn

    CORRECTION:

    metaphor for biden’s role in the obama-ticket:

    “Bringing Up Baby!”

    [I stole the idea from the bitterpoliticz blog]

    • John House

      Bringing Up Baby was a great classic movie with classic slapstick/hilarity and had nothing to do with the idiocy that is this ticket.

      I’d be more apt to call it Bedtime for Bonzo, and no, that’s not meant to be racist. Bedtime for Bonzo = insipidly STUPID movie done by people arrogant enough to think it was good.

  • MIDem

    Obama is a classic Narcissist.
    An accomplished Con Man.
    His kicks are derived at succeeding in deceit.
    It is his drug of choice.
    Like any addict, over time he needs a stronger dose to maintain his high.
    This is accomplished with increasing the danger level
    and the threat of getting caught.
    This is why he flips on all his hallmark issues.
    He dares others to catch him in a lie and call him out on it.

    He is looking to fool Biden, as a way to maintain
    his ego, his narcissistic need to be smarter, better
    craftier than his opponent.

    He is the guy that fakes his medical degree,
    walks into a hospital, diagnoses patients and
    is trying to get into the operating room to perform surgery.

  • CARL

    “I stand by my comment!”

    Biden’s video is posted here: http://workingmannews.com/

    this is to good to be true!

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  • gentlerabbit

    Barack Obama was never, ever going to chose Hillary because he couldn’t. His personality never would have let him chose someone who has the background as stellar as Hillary’s and Bill’s, nor their brilliant minds, outshining his at every turn. That narcissistic, messianic complex he has going on couldn’t have stood that. Besides, like dean, brazille and chickenhead nancy, his design all along has been to destroy Hillary, try to crush her so that she doesn’t rise again, but his attempts have been in vain. This man is incredibly childish, so vain, one wonders just how he will govern this nation of ours and how will he deal with other countries? Give them the finger?

  • http://! Buzz Latte

    How does it feel to be a loser, HoHum?

    Oh and did you like the Obambi gaffe already? He introduced Biden as the next POTUS.

    The wheels have fallen off the Obambi wagon and now it’s on fire!!! BWAAHAAA!!!

    Say hello to President McCain!

    • Wisewoman

      The a**hole actually did introduce Biden as the next POTUS I couldn’t believe it. Guess John McCin isn’t the only one who is in the early stages of altheimer’s (sp).

  • http://BHOtroll mary

    Susan,

    This is the best commentary on Obama’s V-P choice that goes beyond what we’ll unfortuantely find in the mainstream misogynist media.

    Obama is a diagnosed megalomaniac, with a narcissistic personality disorder and unresolved woman-related issues that have rendered him blind (obamyopic) to the hard pragmatism in he must engage his strategy if he is to win the top job.

    His passive-aggressive personality was clearly manifested in the primaries with his “Periodically, she feels down and starts attacking me.” And in his infamous Youtube mega-hit:

    “Obama Gives HIllary the Finger” where he played his cool JayZrapper-wannabe act “dusting off” and “scraping” off (HIllary) from his shoes while “flip-offing” her–showing his disrespectful contempt and misogyny toward his fellow female Senator!

    He has contempt for all the ‘nurturing’ women who failed to practice ‘tough love’ with this pschological infant who has unresolved ‘mommy issues’ galore! Michele packs more punch and doesn’t let him get away with anything, probably fostering at same time, his insecurities which are manifested in his seeking the top job for which, as Biden said:

    “I don’t believe Obama is ready to be President now. The Presidency is not something that can lend itself to on-the-job training!”

    Then Biden added: “I would be honored to run or against Sen. McCain”

    We agree with you 100% Sen. Biden!

    • Susan1968

      Psychological issues galore.

      Michelle is his Mommy. She tells the world his feet stink. Even her daughters feel comfortable berating their Dad on TV about leaving his suitcase by the door.

      Jeeze – what goes on in that house?

      Anybody here encouraged by their Moms to wag their fingers at their Dads when they were kids? Not me.

      Here’s my best guess — Michelle is fixing to be the first AA First Lady.

      And she didn;t want to be over-shadowed by the FIRST WOMAN VP.

      Michelle had a big vote in NOT choosing Hillary.

  • steven

    Biden has had the BEST line EVER, remember? he said “every sentence that comes out of Rudy Guiliani’s mouth consists of NOUN, VERB and 9/11!!!!
    You can’t walk down the streets of Manhattan without seeing that t-shirt on somebody. Rudy became a joke to us New Yorkers a long time ago but Biden made him a national laughing stock. Whether you like Biden or not, he gets maga props from us New Yorkers!!

  • Anonymous

    What do you people want? Obama and Clinton were locked in struggle to the death for control of the democratic party. Clinton lost that struggle, but only barely. But Obama doesn’t have the stuff to actually lead. Do you think Clinton would accept the VP slot if offered? Hell no, she wouldn’t. I think there is a better than even chance that she might actually take the nomination away from Obama and be able to run as PRESIDENT, not VP.

    Regardless of that, her goal is to punish Obama and cause him to fail. When he does, the Clintons will take back the democratic party from the Obama camp and deal savagely with anyone and everyone who had a hand in this debacle.

    There will be no power sharing. The Clintons plan to destroy Obama and everyone even remotely connected to him.

    Duh.

    • Perry Logan

      Begone, anonymous, mindreading troll!

    • PewL

      That DAY can’t come soon enough….

  • just me

    3am text message… what an insult it’s just like choosing JB for VP from Scranton same place as Hillary! How much more does this goon need to do to rub salt into the wounds of 18 million??

    Instead of the “ONE” answering the phone at 3am he opened it up to anyone yep just anyone to answer the phone at 3am…

    Proving we need a President with experience not one who bows to fans at the touch of a button…

    Pandering pansey!

  • Joe Lang

    Because after the campaign that Hillary ran, he could not possibly pick her.

    Her campaign was deeply based in the old style politics of personal destruction, rather than any kind of an attempt to offer people a new look at the political map.

    This is the politics of the snide sideways comment, the concentration on that which does not answer questions for the people whose job it is to vote. Her concentration on Reverend Wright, elitism and Canada were not calculated to give voters information on issues, they were attempts to tear someone down.

    There is no way that Obama could offer her the VP slot after that. She represents everything that he is fighting against, the old style of politics.

    I have tried to open conversations with Hillary supporters before, to examine why they feel the way that they do, but they won’t have it. Every time I’ve been shouted down, had my comments deleted or been blocked. They, or you, as the case may be, simply don’t want to discuss it. You prefer to sit in the corner and cry.

    I sometimes have to wonder whether PUMA and their ilk are the result of children who have been spoiled by bad parenting their whole life, given everything they wanted with no restraints and so, cannot fathom that there are times when they actually don’t get what they want. Instead of coming to the party, you’ll spoil it for everybody by sulking in your room.

    That is certainly what it seems like, sad to say.

    Alright, I apologize for getting angry and posting so many things. It’s really none of my business if you want to go sit in a corner. Please, by all means, do so.

    • http://BHOtroll mary

      Joe Lang, please do go ahead and get angry. It’s a logical extension of poliltical involvement!

      But consider Obama’s many misogynist sins, both camouflaged and blatant. Viw Youtube’s “Obama Gives Hillary the Finger” where his extreme immaturity and sexism is for you to see in front of your eyes.

      REmeber his snub at the State of the Union Address? No. Ok. Do you remember the “Periodically, she feels low down and starts attacking me”…

      then on with Bernie Mac agreeing “mothers and sister are just family ‘hos”. Read about his implict endorsement when a black fundraiser attendee complained to Barack and ordered him to get on stage and shut Bernie’s sexist ‘punchline’ up! Instead…read about it Joel. EDUCATE YOURSELF BEFORE YOU ACCUSE PUMAS OF BEING THE IMMATURE, JUVENILE SEXIST OBAMA FOLLOWERS that we are so used to. Go to youtube and view Brad Mays’ documentary in the making “The Audacity of Democracy” to see the abuse and harassment suffered by older women and older men and shift workers by the overly enthusiastic, fraud-inspired Obama Caucus workers!
      You want to know just how many hudnreds of women have been foollowed and been harassed by IMMATURE, JUVENILE YOUNG OBAMA fans (thugs!)? Go ahead and do your research Joe!

      Before you talk, educate yourself! And Joel, why don’t you listen to Senator Biden:

      “I don’t think Obama is ready for president. I don’t believe that the Presidency lends itself to on the job training” And biden adds, “I’d be honored to run or agianst Sen. McCain”

      Wake up, Joel before November when the cracks on the DNC ceiling will shatter exposing the Obamyopics to some sorely needed Light!

      Nobama ’08

      PUMAS, show those juvenile misogynist Obama supporters (majority) they can’t express opinions before they educate themselves thoroughouly on the issues involved! Their Obamyopia is curable prior to the November deadline for administering the Big Cure!

    • John House

      Your comment has absolutely no basis in fact, and it seems that you’re delusional.

      Your second sentence indicates your delusion:

      “Her campaign was deeply based in the old style politics of personal destruction, rather than any kind of an attempt to offer people a new look at the political map.”

      I guess you were asleep when Oblahma sanctioned the smearing of the Clintons as racists, re-vamped/modernized those “Harry & Louise” ads and just plain went on the attack with Clinton/never offered ANYTHING substantive in the debates against her except a constant “Me too!”.

      Just replace your pronouns and “Clinton” with “Obama” in your entire comment and you have Oblahma’s and Oblahma supporters’ modus operandi. How sickeningly delusional can you people get?

  • voterinexile

    oh there will be a new map alright; try a sea of red.

  • http://BHOtroll memi

    You may not believe this. But Michael Moore last week had sent a letter to Caroline Kennedy begging her to be Oblabla’s V-P!

  • kinthenorthwest

    Comment by HARP | 2008-08-23 11:10:17

    Now what if Biden took this position because he KNEW ( his son was involved ) things about Sinclair and then it accidently leaked out. Biden would then be running for president not VP.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    I had actually pretty much put the Sinclair issue on the back burner untill this…I too wonder if there is something to it all.

  • Ohio Bill

    Wait, wait..

    You didn’t want her on the ticket but wanted him to ask so she could say no? Sorry folks Obama is not going to throw the election so Hillary feels better about loosing.

    But forget that for a moment….

    I want to go back to debt..

    I respect and understand those of you who have either maxed or cannot afford to contribute more this message is not to you. For the rest of you, you should be ashamed you post all this crap yet fail to help retire the debt she took on because she didn’t want to dissapoint you.

    All talk (whine) no action. I have come to see this more and more, all talk no action. No retiring her debt, low turnout for PUMA “meetings”, and lies lies…

    Didn’t one of you puma folk claim to have raised 6.4M for Clinton last month?

    • http://BHOtroll mary

      Ohio Bill.

      thank you for supporting one of our own. BIDEN’S A PUMA! Go watch youtube or Read my comment!

  • just me

    Ohio Bill settle down bill you blow a blood vessel….

    I am sure now the mix up over Hillarys debt has been revealed we will go out of our way to make sure it is cleared… lies lies whats all that?

    You need to see in Nov how many do not support your man.

    So lets forget your over the top anger clear off and go play in your own areana with your bully friends.

    If you do not like it here bot P**S OFF

    • Joy

      Just Me said “I am sure now the mix up over Hillarys debt has been revealed we will go out of our way to make sure it is cleared.”

      What mix up?

  • http://BHOtroll mary

    Indeed!

    The media misogynists are now calling our tune and state that it’s the PUMAS who WILL DECIDE THE PRESIDENCY in November!

    Biden, you made a big mistake! You’re a PUMA and you already proved it with your beliefs:

    “I believe Obama is not ready to be President. The Presidency does not lend itself to on the job training. I’d be honoured to run with or against Sen. John McCain”

    Thank you, Joe Biden. Spoken like a true PUMA!

  • Ohio Bill

    The thing is, Biden is the one VP Clinton people should not complain about. He has 35 years of experience, Chairs, still lives in DE, not rich and….Clinton herself said he would be on her list of VP’s if she were to win.

    “I would consider Joe Biden for anything,” Clinton said. “He’s a friend of mine, he’s a wonderful senator. I’m one of Joe’s biggest fans.”

    Hillary Clinton 11/6/2007

  • Obama’s gums look sick

    Hope someone asks Chairman Biden how many Foregin Relations subcommittee hearings Obama conducted.

  • Obama’s gums look sick

    Thanks a lot Iowa for your exceedingly poor judgment that queered this entire nomination process. You picked both Barky Obama and Philander Edwards over Clinton. Are you satisfied with what you created?

    What part of your brain were you using besides your anti-establishment, I like celebrities and political frauds part. Your struck out now twice. I say you should be banned from ever leading the national primary pack ever again.

  • vi

    Why is it that everything Obama stumbles on its Hillarys fault cheeze, cant ehe even accept he is a dweeb that is shady and stop living everyones history other than his home, can we say Robert K , Jfk, Bill,Reagan, Mlk , Jessie Jackson, , and Lincoln did i leave anyone out, soon they will blame Hillary for him sneezing, or better yet blaming her because he lacks good judgement on choosing his friends wisely the Dnc will have to send him to a Rehab because he is attracted to terrorist and thugs, and his obsession to sit down with all that hate America and wish for a fairyland of dreams , with terrorist funning with open arms to embrace all Americans, He will crash and it will be his fault his own words are a ticking time bomb of what he really believes. Can you see him disarming us of our Nukes, and selling them to the terrorist for his financial and political gain, he is already a owned by Acorn and the other terrorist, hes bought and paid for, do for me and ill do for you. NObama ever, Biden cannot save this ticket.

  • vi

    oops running lol

  • ann

    Don’t know if this has been said, but it occurred to me that bobo picked biden because if he doesn’t win he wants to be made chair of the foreign relations committee. biden is in an election year so if bobo loses, biden is out of the senate.

    This is how selfish and stupid bobo is…he does nothing for the good of the party.

  • tamerlane

    Biden has two testicles, so that brings the total for the ticket to … two.

  • kandy

    Great article in the Miami paper 1. Hilary not Barack will pay the price of any left wing lunacy at the convention. She’ll have no future in the Democratic party if her minions become anymore unhinged. Mr Wolfson said that a very real possibility and would be a shame but people are getting fed up with her supporters ridiculousness. He also said they’re living in Disneyland if they think she’s going to be the nominee – NOT going to happen. She’s releasing her delegates to him at the convention amomg the many other forms of support planned. 2. Obama got a 5 point bump in Florida – Jewish voters here Love Biden and puts Obama ahead with Jews and 38 points ahead with Hispanics. Looks like Biden may be the perfect choice after all.

  • ron

    Didn’t Joe Biden say only a year ago that Obama was not experienced enough for the Presidency?

  • JayD

    Fine, let BHO hang out with Larry Craig in the toilet … and with John Edwards, too, for that matter.

  • CheapEmptySuit

    he does older men on the down under.

  • John House

    It’s “down low”, not “down under”, LOL.