Some Biden Polling

Ingrid Mattson: THE DNC INVITES TERROR SYMPATHIZER, JIAHD APOLOGIST MUSLIM KEYNOTE SPOT

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/08/ingrid-mattson.html

OBAMA’S CITZENSHIP: THE BERG LAWSUIT AGAINST OBAMA

Well, once it bridges that gap for the first time, then it should spread just as the recent accounts of John Edwards’ infidelity did. It took more than eight months for the story to reach a newspaper or television show of note.

Yes. I was talking to a producer from one of the Fox shows, and she said that until it appears in the mainstream press, we cannot cover it. The Times-Herald, out of Norristown here, they’re airing a story here either Saturday or Sunday, and I have a feeling that they’ll do a good job on it, seeing that they’re pretty much my hometown paper.

I’m encouraged by the response over the Internet. I’m discouraged by the people in the mainstream press but I think we’re going to crack it on this case. There are just so many people involved at this point … people are sending out stories all over the place … I’ve been involved in big cases over the years, and this is the single greatest initial response I’ve ever received in any case and I think it’s because it’s so significant – we’re talking about a serious constitutional issue which has never been dealt with before. If we’re right, which I believe we are, Obama really should be taken to task, because he knows that he violated the law. And I hope, if we’re right, that someone brings criminal charges against him.

Criminal charges?

I think it’s an absolute disgrace. If you go back to his record when he was running for the state senate, he threw off a competitor because he didn’t meet the requirements. So I think this guy has got a lot of nerve, I really do, and I believe we’re right, and I believe that action should be taken against him. He could cause, as I said to the judge today, irreparable harm to people in this country, and if it happens, there could be all sorts of bad stuff going on.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/08/obamas-citzensh.html

New McCain ad about Hillary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHx2P3Yixyk

The thing for Obama to do is to shut up and let Biden do all the talking. Obama loses a million votes every time he opens his piehole.

I mentioned in one of the other articles here that Biden is the only credibility surrounding Obama right now. But, I also said that Obama will use him up to the hilt. So, Biden may be the first Vice Presidential nominee to say, “take this job and shove it.”

Obama has cast himself as “a citizen of the world.” He will spend Our Country’s last dollar to bring about all the changes that he needs for himself. There can be only one star and Biden isn’t it.

I hope Biden is the kind of guy that doesn’t mind being in the background and always playing low-key, because Obama is going to make sure he keeps him their. In fact, I hope Biden thought this through before he accepted “the tap.”

Biden has to make sure that he never, even accidentally, ever makes Obama look the least inefficient (which he is), the least inexperienced (which he is), nor the least bit ungod-like (which he is).

Let’s face it, Biden will be walking on egg shells. Biden will be spending more time telling Obama how pretty he looks (I think he gets pedicures), and how great he is that Biden will be asking for a higher salary. Just being a babysitter to Obama will make Biden really earn his pay check.

I guess Biden forgot that at least 6 individuals turned the VP spot down….wonder why that is????

Oh yeah, that leaves the Secretary of State, whomever that will be, to run the White House.

Does it seem just a little strange that Clarence Thomas is the only SCOTUS 0bama wouldn’t appoint and then you read things like this?

Clarence Thomas sits on the Supreme Court because Joe Biden is a coward. As Chairman of the Judiciary Committee, Biden allowed Republicans to hijack the Thomas confirmation hearings. He watched passively while the nominee’s perjury was overshadowed by vicious right wing attacks upon Dr. Anita Hill. Witnesses who were prepared to substantiate Hill’s allegations of professional misconduct against Thomas were not summoned because Biden’s top priority was mollifying his reactionary colleagues. Biden became enraged during the Thomas hearings, but his hostility was not directed toward the Republicans who smeared an honorable woman or at the judicial nominee who lied under oath. Instead, the senator furiously denounced civil rights groups and women’s organizations that claimed they had convinced him to derail the nomination. “Joe Biden is not in anyone’s pocket!” he thundered.

“http://phoenixwoman.blogspot.com/2005/06/clueless-joe.html”

I am sure that there are better sources for analysis than the one cited; however, I remember watching the hearings and Biden stood out as the guy who let Dr. Hill get chewed alive. I wonder how much of this MOBO remembers?

Now that Biden is the VP choice Clarence Thomas will be hailed as ‘not so bad’. IMHO Anita Hill will be trashed, this time by so-called liberals and progressives, not the RW.

If none of this works the MSM will get amnesia about Biden’s role in getting Thomas on the Supreme Court.
Anyone who mentions it will be a ‘racist’. Except for Obama who has already trashed Thomas for his ‘lack of experience’. Oddly enough, and I’m no fan of Justice Thomas, Clarence Thomas actually had more experience at the federal level than Obama has now.

Another McCain ad of Obama trashing Thomas juxtaposed with pictures of Biden defending Thomas during the hearings.

Oy.

Apparently someone on Daily Kos is already defending Biden’s vote for the AUMF. An unforgivable sin by Hlllary Clinton but Biden, much as Kerry did, will get a free pass.

It’s now making sense to me why the Obama campaign chose Biden, POLLS! Of course, polls don’t take into account how the two candidates will work together, if there is any chemistry between them, etc…

Let’s see, Obama and Biden couldn’t introduce each other without screwing up. Obama thinks Biden is running for president and Biden thinks Obama’s last name is America. Haven’t the two watched CNN lately?

Obama and Biden love each other’s company so much and are so excited to kick off their campaign, they went their separate ways after introducing their ticket to the public.

Biden has spent 35 plus years working hard in the Senate, speaking his mind and fighting for what he believes in. He’s not afraid to have the world mad at him. He understands what the phrase work ethic means.

Obama has spent three years in the Senate, the majority of the time running for President. He couldn’t find time to chair his committee, introduce legislation, follow through on anything – even keeping the same policy from one week to the next. Obama has yet to fight for anything and changes his views depending on who he wants to like him this hour. Work ethic is an alien phrase to Obama, unless his definition is find a person with few to no ethics and lots of money who needs a program or bill passed.

The polls have chosen a real winning ticket this time around.

I never thought I’d be thrilled to vote Republican. But I’m feeling good about it. It even sounds fun.

I wonder if it’s too early to obtain an absentee ballot? I’m ready to punch that little chad out right now and save it for my scrapbook.

Just do a search on Joe Biden and racist remarks and you will find a mine feild of offensive remarks. If Joe Biden was a republican he would have to step down from the senate for some of the derogatory statements he made about minorities in the past. I know when this hit the talk shows it will be very damaging.

The first Biracial candidate for the Presidency had to run to the most racist democratic senator to save his campaign. I am sorry but Barack Obama will do anything to win. Even give a racist the VP slot. It seems some black people will vote for this guy even if he puts up a KKK on the ticket.

My new dream ticket McCain / Clinton Can it happen? Read this and look at the date and who wrote it!

Lanny Davis wrote this in 2007, but I think it’s time to dust it off and give it another look…

PARTYING TOGETHER
McCain-Clinton ‘08? Obama-Hagel? That’s the Ticket

By Lanny J. Davis
Sunday, January 14, 2007; Page B03

Imagine this scenario: The country is so deeply divided that the media have color-coded the map of the United States to indicate the partisan chasm — one color covers the South and most of the border states, the other drenches the North.

As the presidential election year nears, one candidate, a shoo-in for his party’s nomination, has an obvious choice for running mate. Yet he also senses the uniqueness of the moment. So he makes a risky decision: He asks a leader of the opposition to run for vice president alongside him, forming the first bipartisan presidential ticket in U.S. history.

This is no fantasy. It’s the decision Abraham Lincoln made when, running for reelection in 1864, he asked his Republican vice president, Hannibal Hamlin, to quit the ticket in favor of the highly partisan Democrat Andrew Johnson.

Lincoln’s experiment in bipartisanship was tragically cut short when he was assassinated less than a month after his 1865 inauguration. But if ever there was a time to give it a second try, it’s now.

Today’s national unease and rabid partisanship — so similar to the circumstances of 1864 — raise the challenge for someone to form a bipartisan ticket in 2008. The lingering trauma of 9/11, the war in Iraq and the fight against terrorism call for an administration open to bipartisan solutions to the crises that confront the country.

Last year’s congressional elections showed that voters are tired of the partisan gridlock in Washington. They want some solutions from liberals and others from conservatives. That’s the new politics of our age, as exemplified by Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman’s reelection in Connecticut as an “independent” Democrat. Though he has voted mostly with his fellow Democrats over the years, Lieberman is open to both liberal and conservative approaches.

The most important reason for a bipartisan presidency in 2008 is the need to find solutions to the war in Iraq and to avoid delaying the end of significant U.S. involvement over fear of partisan recriminations. Solving the dilemma of Iraq — how to get U.S. troops out of harm’s way in a civil war yet not leave behind a rogue state dominated by terrorists — will require bipartisan effort and support.

A bipartisan administration is also essential for enacting new taxes. Most responsible political leaders in both parties know — though few are willing to admit it publicly — that there is no way to pay for the war in Iraq, even as it winds down, and reduce the deficit while also addressing health care, energy independence, global warming and Social Security other than by raising taxes. Only a bipartisan presidency pushing leaders on both sides of the aisle can make it possible to tackle that issue honestly.

So how do you put a bipartisan ticket together? Theodore Sorenson, speechwriter for President John F. Kennedy, wrote a book in 1984 describing the various ways it might be done.

The Democratic and/or Republican nominee could do what Lincoln did — reach out to a leader of the other party as a running mate at the nominating convention. Another scenario, which I prefer, would be for the two parties to nominate their respective tickets and wage a traditional partisan campaign on the issues, so that voters could see each party’s approach and weigh their preferences. After the election, the winner would ask his or her vice president-elect to step down (and become, for example, secretary of state) while inviting the defeated presidential or vice presidential candidate from the other party to serve as vice president. This plan would ideally be announced during the campaign — with the vice presidential candidate agreeing to act as a placeholder on the ticket — so that the electorate would be aware of the commitment to a bipartisan presidency.

In this scenario, the vice president could be selected after the election by the Electoral College, which would presumably honor the president-elect’s request to vote for the president or vice president of the defeated party. Or the selection could occur after the inauguration, with the newly sworn-in vice president resigning and the resulting vacancy filled, under the 25th Amendment, by a majority vote in both houses of Congress. The advantage of this latter method is that it would receive Congress’s ratification of the concept of a bipartisan presidency.

In forming his administration, the new president would continue to adhere to the ideal of bipartisanship, selecting a 50-50 Cabinet and choosing judicial nominees on the basis of merit rather than party.

There are any number of provocative possibilities for a bipartisan ticket in 2008. Imagine the buzz if Republican John McCain and Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton committed to making the other vice president in the event that either won the election. Pick any combination of other names in the current field of potential candidates: Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Chuck Hagel; Democrat Joseph R. Biden Jr. and Republican Mitt Romney; Democrat John Edwards and Republican Michael Bloomberg; Democrat Bill Richardson and Republican Rudolph W. Giuliani. Any of these bipartisan pairings, in any permutation, would create a stir — and a dynamite ticket. (Okay, strike one possible combination — there’s no way we’ll see a Clinton-Giuliani ticket, or vice versa; not only does the Constitution forbid it, as they’re both from the same state, but their personal chemistry would preclude it, too.)

Will it happen? In the end, political realism will be the determining factor. If it appears that a bipartisan ticket could enhance the chances of victory, and if any party leader embraces the need to make this a reality for the country’s sake, then yes, it’s likely to happen.

You don’t have to go back 143 years to Abraham Lincoln for an example of such a judgment. Less than three years ago, Democrat John F. Kerry reportedly saw the political wisdom in asking McCain to be his vice presidential candidate, even though he knew the idea would be vehemently opposed by the Democratic Party’s liberal base, which disagreed with McCain’s positions on abortion, the Iraq war and other issues. Though McCain declined the invitation, it seems evident in hindsight that a Kerry-McCain ticket would have had a better chance of picking up an extra state (or turning 75,000 votes in Ohio) to win the 2004 election.

And whether or not either party takes the dramatic step of committing to a bipartisan ticket, there could be one nonetheless. A well-funded group of national political experts from both parties called “Unity ‘08,” led by Republican pollster Douglas Bailey and former Democratic presidential aide Hamilton Jordan, is ready to fill the void and run a third, bipartisan ticket that would be nominated online through a virtual convention.

But I’m betting that such a third ticket won’t be necessary, because eitherDemocrats or Republicans — or both — will nominate a bipartisan ticket in 2008 or commit to a bipartisan presidency after the election. And I’ll wager that if only one of the parties does it, that party will win.

Any takers?

Exactly!
and when Obama railed against the “old politics” – he was only referring to Hillary, not Biden, who’s been in the Senate since the Nixon administration!

Just another case of Obama’s bamboozling!

NObama!

This visual keeps popping up in my head -
Biden pulling a child’s bright shiny little red wagon with Obama seated inside.
lol

Hillary supporters split over Biden as VP –
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26369546/

You know things are bad when Howdy Dowdy is out criticizing McCain as POW instead of singing the praises of the Dem ticket. I guess she didn’t get her 3:00 AM text … hahahahahaha

Yes – and I wonder what NOW and Emily’s List will say about Biden’s disgusting ‘good old boy’ behavior toward Anita Hill at the Clarence Thomas hearings.

How many people tried to tell the DNC that this was the kind of thing Obama would have to face from the Republicans?
For the sake of that sacred party unity, she’ll probably come out and denounce it. The reason this ad (and the Biden ad) work is because all they can do to take it back is say, “I’ve changed my mind since I said that.” Then, it becomes a question of credibility, which among the American people, is very subjective.

Personally, I don’t think Biden is going to be a great boost to Obama. When it comes down to the voting booth on November 4, people are thinking about who they want as President—not Vice President. In 2004, John Edwards’ charisma and good looks were supposed to make up for Kerry’s lack of both, but it didn’t. Edwards’ couldn’t even help Kerry carry North Carolina (Edwards’ home state).

Forgot to ad the Gallup link.
http://www.gallup.com/home.aspx

Ingrid Mattson traveled to Peshwar Pakistan in 1987. Seems That part of Pakistan was a [popular] place for recruiting Jihadist in the 1980s. The Al Kahif Center was established there in early 1980s, (Obama traveled to Pakistan in 1981), by the Palestinian Fundamentalist Sheikh Abdullah Azzam. Azzam mobilized the Arab youth from around the world through a call to Jihad against the invading Russians in Afghanistan. No one knows to this day (leastwise not the general public) why Obama chose to spend a part of his spring break in Pakistan. Just about the time Azzam sent out the call to the arab youth for their Jihad, and of course by 1985 (according to Sheikh Azzam) they had teamed up with Osama Bin Laden.

***Delaware Independent for Hillary Clinton!!***

This is gonna be great…the Gaffemeister aka Wizard of Wilmington suffers from terminal loquerrhea aka running off at the mouth. The only thing that will put Biden in remission is when he opens his mouth and inserts his foot. The fun has just begun…stay tuned.

OT, but there is a very nice article about Hillary at newsday.com by JEHMU GREENE. Hillary is truly the Best!, and I hope everyone reads the article.

GO LANNY!!

I’ve said it before right here! I’d vote for McCain/Clinton, I’d donate, I’d make calls, I’d even buy a bumpersticker, hat and T shirt!!!!!

gooooooood Mournin No Qtr?

I’m an Indie now (was an Indie through out MOST of the 90′s) and Biden would have been my 3rd choice (of all those that ran) but that was before Richardson turned traitor.

Hillary first of course. And boy was I wrong to turn Indie in the 90′s. Bill did a GREAT job with this country even tho you Republicans here (where ever you are) busted his balz NON STOP! ARGH!

There is LOTS of “get even” goin on with DEMS (I do understand them but don’t believe in eye for an eye)
I didn’t think MOST of them did either but they’ve been taken OVER dudes!!! yeap!

I am a registered independent voter who didn’t care who Obama chose as VP because no one he chose could convince me to put Obama in Our White House since I had already made up my mind that Obama was not the man for the job.

Most independent voters are independent because we believe the candidates must be able to meet the qualifications of leadership without being dependent on a vice president to fill in any leadership voids. True, a VP will serve if the president becomes incapacitated but the old Constitutional way of nominating a VP gave that position to the runner up; not some name the candidate pulled out of a hat because it would “help” him win.

Since JFK was assassinated and LBJ walked into the White House with far different ideas on how to run our country, we voters have paid a lot closer attention to vice president selections. We’ve had Nixon and Agnew who both resigned in disgrace rather than be prosecuted and seen a vice president appointed by a president become president without ever being voted on.

We’ve seen a series of “dumb and dumber” presidents and vice presidents like Reagan-Bush, Bush-Quayle before starting the other way with a dumber president and a shrewd vice president running the show!

Vice presidents shouldn’t be window dressing and they shouldn’t be picked by a candidate who can’t win on his own just to give him a voter boost. Isn’t our country in enough trouble with inflation hitting over 5%, stagnant salaries, fighting two – possibly three – wars, and now with Russia playing “line in the sand” with whoever wins this November. Look at these candidates and decided which ones you want standing toe to toe with Russia at that “line in the sand”.

I’d rather it be a military officer with political experience like McCain than some foreign affairs newbie who thinks he is an international symbol! And, even if Biden is the VP, by the time Obama wakes him up for advice on that 3 am phone call it will probably be too late.

btw (to Lanny)

I’ll NEVER VOTE FOR A McCain/Lieberdouche ticket

NEVER EVER EVER!

NOTHING WOULD rally democrats more than for McCain to pick Lieberdon’t

I listened to bits and pieces of the dog and pony show last night. Did Biden say something about healthcare for the masses. Hmmm I guess his plan wont be dead on arrival. I guess it only counts when the one and his “boytoy” get it started.

see now THAT would be a GOOD reason for him to pick her!!!

Come ON JOHN

PICK HILLARY! You both share your regard for the military, the country, the people, and SHE could rein in your typical repub break the bank schemes!!!

pay as you go

I just want a simple answer: Why am I being forced not to vote in this presidential election? Why are the choices a dead man and a lying sack o’ feces?

If NPR doesn’t stop being the Ombama Radio Network, I shall be forced to go radio-less.

There is a 3 pages piece of propaganda for dean/Reid/pelosi in Politico. My rebuttal
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/08/24/the-donner-party/

I think it would be a good idea. Clinton and McCain both are known for working across the aisle w the other party to find solutions for America. If you’ve got one of each in office, maybe Congress would stop playing these stupid ass games over party rule and power. I wish someone would show some damn leadership and actually do this. I would like to see some polls taken to find out how voters feel about this. I think it very likely would work. Many Republicans said they liked Hillary and would vote for her.

This ought to get all those outraged Biden supporters on board the hopey bus (pay no attention to those under it). You know the ones who have websites, blogs and organizations touting his right to have his name put in nomination, to be heard, etc.
Now where the hell are they hiding?

W00T!!

LMAO @ BEING FORCED

I swear I get that feeling OFTEN!!!

really funny to see words on the page that I didn’t type that are screaming in my head!!!

Why do they think that now that Pampers has adult supervision we will all breath a sigh of relief and vote for him? Why should a two-time national loser as second fiddle make me more comfortable? Once again we are stuck in Obama- Bizzaro world. An alternate universe where nothing makes sense unless you are on an IV drip of Kool-aid.

Lisa, thanks.
One thing that stands out about Biden’s selection, or any one else, is that BO still heads the ticket.
That is where the Democrats are facing the worst deficiency they could have developed!
If McCain chooses Petraeus for instance, the White House may be in their hands for 12 years…or 16!

Well the idiot deserves it! Biden didn’t have to accept the spot. He has 0 credibility. Biden is aDupont party hack. He may be invovled in that pesty LS situation where his son signed off on the arrest warrent after the LS NPC appearance. It is strange that Biden is selected after his son is pressing charges against LS. Stranger things have happened in American politics!

The stupid politicians don’t realize that in the age of the internet, their dirty tricks will be discovered.

You know…there has always been speculation that the Dems know Obama will take a fall. The puppet masters have arranged this? Biden represents who? Party insiders, corporate controlled Delaware? The plot thickens.

Excellent rebuttal. And it is all just propaganda. I was ROTFLMAO listening to the MSNBC talking heads trying to justify why Biden lost TWICE in his quest to be president… they should try on reality for a change. The voters said ” No thanks, stay where you are Joe”.

Barky at his finest for your viewing pleasure.

http://www.youtube.com/v/5eu2aDCIQYs

Barky at his finest for your viewing pleasure.

I don’t know if things like this are a sign of desperation or just illogical or both.

The poll numbers, like holding a wet finger into the wind, might make Biden a good choice for Obama but they mask some glaring challenges. Consider three:

Biden has been in Congress since Obama was 8 years old. Not someone who can easily hold the Dear Leader’s banner of Hope and Change.
Biden supported the war in Iraq, directly counter to Obama.
Biden made clear that McCain was more qualified and ready to be president than Obama. Nothing changed since his statement last year except for Obama’s celebrity world tour this summer.

Biden brings establishment credibility but in doing so further undermines Obama’s own credibility. Rather, he brings spotlight to how unprepared and unqualified Obama is that he was forced to pick a VP that is more often than not opposed to him and his views. Biden, for his part, won’t sound to convincing to now be out shilling for Obama. Is there enough Kool-Aid remaining for the conversion?

Well no one else was ever called a Maverick that I recall (in my life?)

He would be the guy to do it!

Just think how the History books would favor him!

Plus she knows him and is used to the way he works. They’d be great imo.

Obama’s choice of Biden had to do with a few things, I suspect:

–The “experience” gap. Biden “completes” Obama, as some wags have said. He’s seasoned, older, and has foreign policy knowledge. Of course, he also wants to chop up Iraq like chicken livers!

–The CATHOLIC vote. Biden is a pro-choice Catholic, and Catholics have done a very good job in going with the winner of most, if not all, Presidential contests in recent years.

FWIW, Catholics as a group do not care for Mormons. If Mitt Romney is chosen as McCain’s running mate, a lot of rabid/anti-choice Catholics that like McCain just might fall away.

If I’m McCain’s people, I take tape of Biden talking, speed it up, run a graphic with the critcism that Biden will now be spewing and then the great compliments that Biden has most recently paid to Senator McCain. Then just finish with “I’m John McCain … ”

No taking them on on the stump. Just talk on message. Let your ads rebutt. Let them attack. That’s all they’ve got. Their positions are so at odds that they need to be held together with bailing wire, chewing gum and duck tape.

Story about ACORN on FOX right now!!!

Conspiracy theory wish:

Could it be possible that the dems knew the Chicago way was to cheat and so they allowed this to happen so that people are more watchful in the GE when the real candidate Clinton is running? That way for once all eyes are open to the cheating well before November?

I have lots of conspiracy theory wishes, such as that this is a ploy by the dems to have the rethugs sitting pretty with attacks against Obama when they had every intention of slipping Clinton i last minute.

Stop the madness democrats!

I think the Independent result of the poll is interesting… Hillary dead last as a choice…

I do not know one Hillary supporter that knows anything about BO that wanted her on that ticket…
I would have been difficult to not vote for him if she were his VP.

Obama has now proven even more that ‘unity’ is just some other meaningless word to him, used only to benefit his candidacy. He is a man that will say anything to get elected.

Oh, come on, surely you’re not trying to say Obama governs by the polls, are YOU?

It will be interesting to see the narrative that will develop about her through the course of the GE.

Well, “governs” isn’t a correct word for Obama, it should be

…”surely you’re not rying to say Obama makes decisions by the polls”

Read why credit card industry loves Obama/Biden

“The final version of the bill was cleverly titled the “Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005,” but it wasn’t aimed at preventing abuse or protecting consumers, and everyone knew it.”

Joe Biden: No True Friend of Working Men and Women by Jackson Williams

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jackson-williams/joe-biden-true-friend-of_b_120776.html

The Obama Craze: Count Me Out by Matt Gonzalez
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2008/Obama-Craze-Gonzalez27feb08.htm

Interesting stories on Syracuse.com

SU calls choice of Joe Biden an “inspiration” to the campus

VP pick Joe Biden has area connections

The comment section is buzzing with the plagerism issue while at S.U.

You guys are just simply nuts. McCain is the antithesis of everything she believes (reproductive choice, health care, gay rights, economy, Iraq). You must not think highly of her if you think she would go on the ticket with him. Further demonstration that you guys are just Republicans masquerading as Hillary supporters.

Ahem, get a life, your ridiculous insults aside, where exactly, does Obama stand on the issues you mentioned? He has flip flopped all over them.

Did it ever occur to you that some of us see him is a puppet and will use the D brand to finish what Bush started? Namely futher erode the democracy we enjoy and take for granted in our country.

The D congress will be partisan and keep a Republican in check… not so with Obama the puppet.

You know what i dislike the most, is that all the pundits assume that just because we voted for Hillary that we will follower her lead. Well unfortunately for them I vote issues and character and experience is a must; I will not be forced in voting for a looser, if my life depended on it, and you know here guys you have all those O’s always threating, this part of the Democratic party that will not fall in line. Sorry, my vote means more to me than following the drooling , blinded public supporters of O, that issues do not matter, with the stakes getting high and Russia playing the Big Bear , now is not the time to have O in office, alot will say I will not vote McCain, well think about that hard, your vote might be the deciding vote on letting Obama sway into that big chair behind the Presidents desk: I just believe McCain has proven to do more for the People, than O’s short record has and he has experience not just Chicago senate where his voting record sucks, and 3 yrs in the Senate and 1 1/2 of that campaigning, we can really say , Dnc was high on candy, and in the mix of the high it forgot to come down. Banding together is the only way to succeed , I know we own our vote, but what will we do when all those O’s are turning out for their thuggish leader . Will we allow Chicago Politics, stomp out Democracy and the voices of 18 million voters, what better way to defeat the Dnc, and Bamie, by becoming a force to recon with, the Democratic party who votes issues and looks to support the most qualified person, I would love Hillary on the ticket, but reality we do not have that we have Obama, and you know ladies and gentleman, I want my vote to matter. McCain has proven and has a motto he stands by a conviction to do what is right, Country before Party . If you do not vote, you would be a silence vote that voted for Obama saying it is ok for this dweeb and the dweebets , to silence my vote, and in turn voting Obama. Yes , the economy is an issue but think about it since Bush came out with removing the off shore drilling bann on his part; oil has been falling and spending has increased slowly, no one single person can be blamed for the economy, because even the senate and congress were blind to what was occuring, until the one person who truly concerned for the people voiced it Hillary, from housing to oil, the other dems were blind to hit. Clinton is strong on the economy , and it would be great if McCain would pick her, because the swing of excitement would turn to the Republican party and not to the Dnc. Together they have worked well in the Senate, and they have some disagreements but both do what is right. We can only wish that McCain notices the disrespect of the Democratic party that stomped over her and Bills accomplishments. There are two woman named if he should choose a woman, and well the both ran a successfull business , and have earned the respect of many as Ceo. But by choosing a woman atleast he is listening. and hearing many voices. I am a Democrat, but I matter and experience is a must, I disagree with some of McCain choices but i totally do not like Obamas. NObama ever, the real question is will Hillary , cross that line and be vp on a Republican ticket. Well there would be a Democrat in the White House working for the People. mmmm who knows? I own my vote and will not fall in line behind a big bag of air.

Sorry so long guys, this just got away from me.

Yeah, all those 9,500 supporters of Biden.

I’ catholic and Biden does not sway my vote. If you don’t like a guy, does not matter who you choose, besides look how many votes Biden mustered up by himself lol; even Catholic did not vote in droves, will not change anything. The bulk of the experience in the tail, he does not sway any of my family. NObama.2008

Excellent post. I too am voting for McCain for the same reasons you are. A “I’m not voting this year” is just another way of voting the sleazebag into office. Every vote will count and if we want to keep Oblahblah out of the White House, EVERYONE will have to get out and vote for McCain. A third party choice will have absolutely no impact on the election.

That has crossed my mind too, Biden supporters after several presidential election years have given up the idea he can win the primaries. They “arrange” for Obama to win the Democratic nomination, shortly afterwards Obama is axed as the presidential candidate (pick your favorite one of the several available – dual citizenship, Ayers, etc.) and Biden becomes the presidential nominee. Biden’s previous statements concerning Obama over the past few years proves he was never in bed with Obama.

It sounds far-fetched. But then again so does the past year with the Democratic Party and it’s fact, not fiction.

Thanks for a straight-up post that presents facts as facts and does not try and distort the truth. Good job.

and BOOYAH!!!!!

Thank you!! LOVE Jehmu Greene!!

Do not be a silenced vote by not voting, then the real Chicago politics won, no vote means Obama in the White house, bann together and become one voice, the voice of Democracy saying hear me the people matter, character pride, integrity, record and experience, the will of the people, and not paid political favors that will contribute to politicians that no longer work for the people but for the rich and government elite, to prosper in their financial means and self interest. Vote: a no vote is a vote for Obama and a third party vote is a vote saying its ok to vote but still voting for the One , by not voting experience, Country before Party. Nobama

Agreed. I, too, wish Hillary could be on a McCain ticket but we have to be realistic. Even if McCain and Hillary could work well together, there is such a high negative for her with Republicans, that will never happen. I have never figured that one out. My southern relatives detest her the way I do Obama. I just don’t get what she’s done that has them so ticked off.

Not voting, Hillary write-in as a protest or a vote for a third party is voting for Obama. We have to elect McCain to get rid of the present membership of the DNC. Hillary will have no future if we allow these people to succeed. It would be as if we gave them approval to continue their dishonest, ugly misogynistic tactics into the next election. Hillary will fare no better then. Dean, Pelosi, Brazile, Reid have to lose their power.

It’s hard voting Republican (1st for me) but that’s the only strategy that will bring the change we want. So suck it up boys and girls and let’s clean house. We won’t be worse off (and energy wise probably better) with McCain but Barry would be a bloody disaster.

Truly amazing. I know we have a loser once again. When is my party going to go with a proven winner? Never from the way it seems. HRC was the only person that could give obama from anywhere from a 6 to a 10 point push in the polls. Biden will most likely give McCain a push of 2 to 3.
HRC should have been asked to be the VP nominee. The slaps at HRC from obama and his campaign are truly insulting. The 3 a m send out of the emails was a slap at HRC for her 3 a m ad. Not even vetting HRC agains was a slap. Many other too numerous.
I am so sick and tired of my party trying to win on the idea of obama. It is obvious that obama made history but the idea of obama proves one thing. He cannot win. With HRC, she too would have made history but the truth is she had the experience, the ability, the aptitude and the knowledge to become president on day one. Unlike obama who will be lost as in the movie The Candidate which said after this guy was elected with no knowledge of anything said, “What, do I do now?
Hopefully obama will not get that chance, and it is sad that I will not stand with my party this election because our candidate is just an idea and nothing else. Vote for McCain? No. I will write in Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton

a vote that will not count, in alot of states but i do feel the cry to do so unfortunatly its not recognized in alot of states, he will get into the white house, Its the office , and with the O’s coming out its just a push to the door of the white house, you own your vote, Nobama