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When Tennessee = Nazi

By LisaB on March 31, 2010 at 7:00 AM in Current Affairs

As a native Tennessean, I learned early on, while attending a summer camp in the Midwest, that ignorant folks considered me a racist, white trash, and ignorant hick just because I was from a southern state and spoke different. This same prejudice resurfaced during the 2008 Presidential campaign, only this time you were a racist if you were white, lived in the South and did not support Obama.

But now, thanks to the good folks at Little Green Footballs (LGF) who saw a photo of Tennessee state flag at a Tea Party rally, I’m a Nazi. Why? Because I’m from Tennessee.

LGF’s Charles Johnson (no relation to Larry), apparently with nothing better to do, spied a Tennessee flag at a dastardly tea party rallies and suspected Nazis were on the move!! Nazis, I tell ya!! Flag-waving nazis!! Yeah!! See!! A neo-nazi flag!!! Proof!! Proof those tea partiers are NAZIS!!!!!!

Em. Not so much.

Weaselzippers’ called it:

Charles Johnson “Fairly Sure” the Tennesee State Flag is a Neo-Nazi Logo…

Here is the link to the LGF post. The post is about those dastardly tea partiers, but the lengthy conversation that follows is all about Tennessee / nazi and how not to tell the difference.

After several people suggested that neo-nazi flag just MIGHT be a Tennessee state flag, Johnson allowed that he thought “this particular [neo-nazi flag]” probably was the Tennessee flag.

Of course, Johnson’s backdown only prompted this considered response:

Never let it be said only the right wing knows how to be self-righteous and imbecilic at the same time. Let’s look at this high-brow logic, shall we?

Tea parties are full of idiots, homophobes and racists.
so. . .

That flag there must be a symbol of . . . Nazis!!!! Yeah!! NAZIS!
Therefore. . .

Tennesseans are nazis!

Perfect. A trifecta of stupid.

Does this look like a swastika to you?

No, me neither. Leaping to a conclusion that the Tennesse state flag is a Nazi symbol tells us a lot about the ignorance and prejudice of folks like Charles Johnson. And what does it tell us about the Tea Party? Some good folks in Tennessee are proud of their state and sick and tired of out of control Federal spending. That doesn’t make them racists or nazis. They are patriots.

  • William Teach

    Well, you know, people have pretty much been ignoring Excitable Chucky for a couple months now, after we decided it wasn’t worth the time dealing with that tool, so, he apparently had to do something bat guano crazy to get back on people’s radar.

    BTW, you know he has banned you from the Internet, right, LisaB?

  • glennmcgahee

    Its too bad that these uneducated dunces have no idea why Tennesseee is called The Volunteer State. Its because anytime there has been trouble as in war against the USA, Tennesseans have been the first to volunteer. We take pride in that.
    In all this talk about Tennessee, I kept waiting but never heard a word about the fiasco that a Democratic Governor brought on the poorest folks in Tn. by throwing the sickest off Medicaid. It was a plan to insure everybody and just like the healthcare plan just passed, private insurers took over the Medicaid plan and called it Tenncare. It became unsustainable and ended up leaving the sickest uninsured when the “experiment” was halted due to cost. That governor happened to be the CEO of an insurance company too by the way.

  • AbigailAdams

    That anyone saw it as such says way more about them than about the Tea Partiers gathered there.

    So now people’s ideologies are created and justified in their heads via their personal, internal “Rorschach Test”.  Ironically, this is what Wiki has to say about it’s use:  “Some psychologists use this test to examine a person’s personality characteristics and emotional functioning. It has been employed to detect an underlying thought disorder, especially in cases where patients are reluctant to describe their thinking processes openly.”

    “Thought disorder” seems to sum up the comments in the screen shots, above.

  • politicsisdirty

    Tennessee = The Nazi… hmmmm sounds alike but stupid is as stupid does.

  • LisaB

    I’ll let my ISP know.  But he seems to hate weaselzipper more, complaining wz didn’t include his walkback of TN flag = nazi.  But it wasn’t much of a walkback, IMO.

    :-P

  • annie

    Why is it that we see so much hatred since Obama has come into office? I am sooooo tired of people being called racists if they don’t agree with him. I don’t feel bad for the people that voted him in and now they are having buyers remorse because they were told about his Chicago policies and all thethugs he has beside him plus no experience what so ever and we know just look at what this country is turning into.

  • sandstone

    Who is it that said, Stupid is what stupid does?”

    Here’s a quote about what the symbols of the Tenn State Flag:

    The Tennessee State Flag was designed by Captain LeRoy Reeves of the Third Regiment, Tennessee Infantry. Captain Reeves explained the design of his flag as follows:

    The three stars are of pure white, representing the three grand divisions of the state. They are bound together by the endless circle of the blue field the symbol being three bound together in one-an indissoluble trinity The large field is crimson. The final blue bar relieves the sameness of the crimson field and prevents the flag from showing too much creation when hanging limp. The white edgings contrast more strongly the other colors.
     This flag was adopted as the official flag of the State of Tennessee by an act of the Legislature passed and approved April 17, 1905. The design of the flag was described by that act, Chapter 498 of the Public Acts of 190

  • My other site

    The same hatred was circulating during the Bush years, but it was on the other side so conservatives thought it was business as usual.  Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter declaring that all liberals should be executed, expelled from the U. S., rounded up and confined to gulags.  That wasn’t hateful?  If you weren’t for Bush you were against him.  If you wore a peace symbol you were attacked in public.  I actually was in a boutique and I saw a T-shirt on the bottom shelf of a display table that had a peace symbol in a cute, abstract design.  The cashier told me she put it on the bottom shelf, out of sight, because she was afraid her shop would be closed down if Republicans saw it in there.  So, this stuff cuts both ways.  Americans need to stop looking at the splinter in someone else’s eye . . . 

  • confused American

    As I said in an earlier thread, there are many out there who are horrendously  criticizing  everything that might be construed to be non-supported of Obama… 
    On one  dating site their forum has become mostly an area to severely malign and defame any group, or person not supporting Obama.
    Someone posted an article about the arrest of the person threatening Cantor.  After that initial post it became an arena  to defame Cantor. Man Arrested For Death Threats Against Cantor. .http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts13947868.aspx
    Another thread was posted about the  arrest of the  Hutaree militia members in Michigan. While some came in to say what a good thing the arrest  was, many used that thread to connect this militia group to the Tea Party, GOP, candidates, Palin and etc.  Members of a Christian Militia Arrested and Charged in Plot to Murder Officers  http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts13946106.aspx  
    Now Mind You this is supposed to be a forum connected with a dating site.

  • confused American

    As I said in an earlier thread, there are many out there who are horrendously  criticizing  everything that might be construed to be non-supported of Obama…   
    On one  dating site their forum has become mostly an area to severely malign and defame any group, or person not supporting Obama.  
    Someone posted an article about the arrest of the person threatening Cantor.  After that initial post it became an arena  to defame Cantor. Man Arrested For Death Threats Against Cantor. .http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts13947868.aspx  
    Another thread was posted about the  arrest of the  Hutaree militia members in Michigan. While some came in to say what a good thing the arrest  was, many used that thread to connect this militia group to the Tea Party, GOP, candidates, Palin and etc.  Members of a Christian Militia Arrested and Charged in Plot to Murder Officers  http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts13946106.aspx    
    Now Mind You this is supposed to be a forum connected with a dating site.

  • kenoshamarge

    Unfortunately there is no cure for stupid. This asshat has his partisan head so far up his partisan ass that he is unable to see the difference between the State Flag of Tennessee and a Nazi flag.

    Proves that when you are desperately seeking something, anything with which to smear ordinary citizens for the high crime of daring to disagree with your point of view, any old thing will do.

    It doesn’t make them Nazis but it does make you a fool.

  • jbjd

    This is O/T but,
    I am cleaning up from the flood and so, please, I am asking all of you to spread the word, I will be on the radio tonight, Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 9:00 PM (ET) to update everyone on the efforts to identify and redress the 2008 election fraud.  Here is the blurb.
    *********************************************************
    HEAR, HERE! HEAR, HERE! HEAR, HERE! HEAR, HERE! HEAR, HERE!
    On Wednesday, March 31, 2010 at 9:00 PM ET, I will make another appearance on drkate’s REVOLUTION RADIO to update everyone on ongoing efforts to redress the ballot fraud that tainted the 2008 Presidential (Electors) election, with particular focus on shenanigans in the great state of Texas. jbjd ELECTION FRAUD – ALIVE AND WELL (AND LIVING IN TEXAS) http://www.blogtalkradio.com/drkate/2010/04/01/revolution-radio-constitutional-governance
    Please spread the word!
    (My first 3 (three) appearances are still available on podcast; links are in the sidebar on my blog. As anyone who has listened to these can tell you, they fly by!)
    *******************************************************
    Thank you, NQ’s.

  • Docelder

    You know I worked in a Dallas “hood” for five years. The thing is there is so much misinformation everywhere. I was asked all kinds of things from people in the hood who really didn’t know, mostly because I was practically the only white guy there. As an example, several different grown people asked me about the Masons, i.e. whether they were really the klan or not. I am not one of them, but just white so that alone made me qualified I guess. I just said they are kind of like the moose lodge or elks lodge I guess, just a different club. These guys in the hood were really afraid of them for some reason. I just think of them in those little scooters and funny hats. Funny thing is, there are a lot of grown white people that think the Mason’s are a recruiting station for the illuminati. I guess there is a lot of misinformation everywhere, when you get down to it. What would help more than anythning right now would be for Obama to come out and call for an end to the racism fest on the part of network news anchors.

  • HARP

    I wonder if this flag is racist?

  • Docelder

    Interesting the slogan… Freedom or Death. If the Tea Party had that slogan, they would be considered dangerous. The double standard is what really gets to me. I don’t mind what people do, so long as they harm nobody innocent in doing it. But, the double standard on race is really unfair, if not itself racist.

  • oowawa

    Hey, LisaB–wasn’t Davy Crockett born on a mountaintop in Tennessee?  Isn’t Sun Studios, who first recorded Elvis Presley, Jerry Lee Lewis, Carl Perkins, Roy Orbison, and Johnny Cash somewhere there in Memphis?  And also Howlin’ Wolf, Little Milton, Junior Parker, B.B. King, James Cotton and Rufus Thomas?  Looks like an All-American mix to me–hardly Nazis.  It would be a real shock to me to find out that you folks down there in Volunteerland were clinging to your swastikas along with your religion and guns . . . 

  • wbboei

    Do you really believe it was as bad then as it is now?  Maybe so in your life, but that was not a common experience, compared to what we see now.  When you say you were attacked, were you ever called a nazi?  If you are really against this stuff, the answer is for you to condemn what we are seeing right now.  I have this argument all the time with some people I know.  When I tell them something that the Fraud has done they jump right back and say “Bush did that”. And I tell them that I never voted for Bush, he is no longer President, and the problem now is what is happening now.  They agree, Then five minutes later it gets right back to the same statement,  Bush did that, Those people have more memories of the past than hopes for the future,  The best therapy is to get them to acknowledge that is is evil to call someone a Nazi because they oppose Obama based on his misguided policies, and anyone who will not say that directly and reverts back to Bush is evading the issue, 

  • Docelder

    No, it wasn’t really tyhe same. Most people never really supported Bush so much as they were patriotic after 9-11. It was the left that personalized “Bush” into the equation and made it all about him. But this time, it has always been about Obama. It is unfamiliar ground as this is the first American Idol style presidency. The polarization is far worse as well. The left always personalizes and they are in control now so the polarization will be worse, because it is about mainly personality now. Personality is more opinionated than patriotism ever could be.

  • Docelder

    No, it wasn’t really the same. Most people never really supported Bush so much as they were patriotic after 9-11. It was the left that personalized “Bush” and made it all about him. But this time, it has always been about Obama. It is unfamiliar ground as this is the first American Idol style presidency. The polarization is far worse as well. The left always personalizes and they are in control now so the polarization will be worse. It is about mainly personality now. Personality is more opinionated and polarizing than patriotism ever could be.

  • Freedom Fighter

    The difference between the Tea Party and Black Panther Party is that tea partiers like Joe Stack crash planes into buildings and threaten to kill politicians who vote for health care. The Black Panther Party is a civil rights organization that stands up for injustice against African Amercans, they do not commit terrorist acts like the Tea Party seem to encourage their members.

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2010/02/_joseph_stack_was_angry.html

    http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/joan_walsh/politics/2010/03/20/tea_party_racism

  • Freedom Fighter

    The difference between the Tea Party and Black Panther Party is that tea partiers like Joe Stack crash planes into buildings and threaten to kill politicians who vote for health care. The Black Panther Party is a civil rights organization that stands up against injustice against African Amercans, they do not commit terrorist acts like the Tea Party seem to encourage their members. 
     
    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2010/02/_joseph_stack_was_angry.html 
     
    http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/joan_walsh/politics/2010/03/20/tea_party_racism

  • Sally

    Something that you institutional collectivists just don’t get: Nazis are a totalitarian oppressive bunch whose main purpose is to OVERTHROUGH the current representative goverment , its culture, and are rabidly anti-christian.

    This is in stark contrast to Patriots who fervently love and are willing to UPHOLD (not destroy) by force their system of government and thier current culture of based on liberty and individual rights and duties.

    To confuse American Patriots (incl those in Tennesse) with NAZIs shows what IGNORANT F O OLs you are….and you are.

  • oowawa

    Well, LisaB–I’m glad that you pointed out to me the hidden symbolism in state flags.  It made me wonder about our own state flag here in California . . . hmmmm . . .

  • Sally

    If you think this flag is racist you must be a fool….Last time I looked you institutional collectivists sure hated being “tread” on by the “evil” BUSH, REAGAN and Nixon administrations….and made your displeasure fully known.

    But being tread on by a fascist like Obabi is suddenly OK? You people sure are insane…as long as you have a leftist bullet in your head you’re OK with it?

  • Sally

    Compared to Obabi Bush looks like a “defender of Liberty”. The corruption is staggering, jaw droppingly brazzen. I can’t believe what I see on a daily basis. I wonder if its because Obabi is just to stupid to know how brazenly currupt he looks or if he does it purposely to make us all crazy with anger…ie to provoke an incident.

    I think its a combo of both.

  • tango

    Hmm, shall we review Joe Stacks Manifesto for what he said about health care?:

    “Yet at the same time, the joke we call the American medical system, including the drug and insurance companies, are murdering tens of thousands of people a year and stealing from the corpses and victims they cripple, and this country’s leaders don’t see this as important as bailing out a few of their vile, rich cronies.  Yet, the political “representatives” (thieves, liars, and self-serving scumbags is far more accurate) have endless time to sit around for year after year and debate the state of the “terrible health care problem”.  It’s clear they see no crisis as long as the dead people don’t get in the way of their corporate profits rolling in.”

    It appears that Mr. Stack was all for health care reform. So he’s on your side. 

     Let’s see how he feels about religion – you know something bitter people (right wingers)  cling to:

    “The intent of this exercise and our efforts was to bring about a much-needed re-evaluation of the laws that allow the monsters of organized religion to make such a mockery of people who earn an honest living.”  Well it doesn’t sound like he’s on the side of religion there does it?
    How does Mr. Stack feel about business?:

    “I’ve never experienced such a hard time finding work.  The rates are 1/3 of what I was earning before the crash, because pay rates here are fixed by the three or four large companies in the area who are in collusion to drive down prices and wages… and this happens because the justice department is all on the take and doesn’t give a fuck about serving anyone or anything but themselves and their rich buddies.”  It seems he feels businesses screw over employees. Definately not someone who feels businesses should be LESS regulated.

  • arabella trefoil

    Don’t mess with Tennessee!

    When I was in primary school, we had to learn all the state names, capital cities, flags and slogans. We also had to learn about the history of each state.

    To be fair, there were only 48 states at that time, so I guess I had an easy time of it.

    Today I’m 58! And feeling great! It’s spring break, and I got my CNA license in the mail the other day. My hard work is starting to pay off. Couldn’t have done it without the moral support from y’all.

  • oowawa

    Congratulations, arabella!

  • Judy in NC

    Somebody better tell Al Gore.

  • tango

    Shall we continue?

    I’m sure as a Tea Party right wing wacko, Mr. Stack must love GW Bush, right?

    “The recent presidential puppet GW Bush and his cronies in their eight years certainly reinforced for all of us that this criticism rings equally true for all of the government.  Nothing changes unless there is a body count (unless it is in the interest of the wealthy sows at the government trough).  In a government full of hypocrites from top to bottom, life is as cheap as their lies and their self-serving laws.”

    I don’t see any great Bush admiration there.
    I’m sure Mr. Stack is all about the rich getting richer, screw the middle class like all good Republicans:

    “Isn’t it ironic how far we’ve come in 60 years in this country that they now know how to fix that little economic problem; they just steal from the middle class (who doesn’t have any say in it, elections are a joke) to cover their asses and it’s “business-as-usual”.  Now when the wealthy fuck up, the poor get to die for the mistakes… isn’t that a clever, tidy solution.”
    Wow, it sounds like he’s sticking up for the middle class and poor.

    Finally, Mr. Stack ended his manifesto with this:

    “The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

    The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.”

    It’s not hard to see Mr. Stack is not a fan of capitalism by his final statement and by other things I’ve referenced from his manifesto.  He wanted less government, yes, in some ways, but was quite critical of how government fails the middle and lower classes and those who have no political power and felt in those instances government needed to do more.

  • oowawa

    Yep, those Masons are a sinister bunch of sphinx-worshipping illuminati, and they’ve been running the show since the dawning of antiquity–almost as diabolical and pervasive as the Rosicrucians . . .

  • oowawa

    Well, I’ll be tuning in, jbjd!  You’re a mysterious figure to me and I’ll be very curious to hear your voice!

  • oowawa

    Well, if Al Gore would have carried his own state of Tennessee, he would have been President, and not GWB.  I wonder what this means . . .

  • Docelder

    You just made my point FF. The same slogan, or the same ideas from each group are reported differently by the media. There is a double standard on race and on called racism… I might go so far as to call racism “racist”. That is how far down the rabbit hole we have fallen.

  • Freedom Fighter

    Tango, you can make an argument Joe Stack have opinions that fall on both sides of the political spectrum. However, it appears from news reports, he sounds awfully like a Tea Partier. But Joe Stack is just one example, what about all those Tea Partiers that screamed racist epithets and spat on the Black Congressional Caucus?

  • Docelder

    But it is perfectly fine to equate a group of old mostly white people who wear funny hats with the klan… but point out that black panthers are mostly black and you are a racist. There is a huge double standard on race in this country. Huge.

  • Docelder

    Familiarity breeds contempt?  8-)

  • Docelder

    Really, nobody here is defending some jackass who flew a plane into a building. This was about the double standard which defines racism. The definition of racism itself has become “racist”. What a mess.

  • Obama: Dubya 2 Electric Boogaloo

    http://www.50states.com/flag/caflag.htm

    Historic Bear Flag raised at Sonoma on June 14, 1846, by a group of American settlers in revolt against Mexican rule. The flag was designed by William Todd on a piece of new unbleached cotton. The star imitated the lone star of Texas. A grizzly bear represented the many bears seen in the state. The word, “California Republic” was placed beneath the star and bear. It was adopted by the 1911 State Legislature as the State Flag. [Source: California Blue Book.]

  • karen for Clinton

    What has become so clear is that you are, and always have been, a tool, a mere useful idiot.  You are always wrong and you always have no idea what you are talking about. You seem intent on spewing propaganda and fail to realize the people of NQ are too well informed to listen to your clap trap.

  • karen for Clinton

    Freedumb,

    What has become so clear is that you are, and always have been, a tool, a mere useful idiot.  You are always wrong and you always have no idea what you are talking about. You seem intent on spewing propaganda and fail to realize the people of NQ are too well informed to listen to your clap trap.

    Words cannot describe what we’ve come to expect from obots such as yourself but these come readily to mind – gullible, naif, naive, green, unsophisticated, foolish, simple-minded, dupe, stooge, green horn, childlike, ignorant, ingenue, etc. Keep it up, you will love totalitarianism you twit. 

  • Docelder

    I might add I have my Florida hiuse for sale right now and I am going to Tennessee as soon as it sells. Tennessee because I want away from the sun, bugs and alligators and because I want a few acres to be able to plant a garden on. Parts of Tennesse are more “white” and other parts are more “black” than the nation on average. Calling Tennessee racist is really dumbass.

  • Docelder

    I might add I have my Florida house for sale right now and I am going to Tennessee as soon as it sells. Tennessee because I want away from the sun, bugs and alligators and because I want a few acres to be able to plant a garden on. Parts of Tennesse are more “white” and other parts are more “black” than the nation on average. Calling Tennessee racist is really dumbass.

  • karen for Clinton

    This is OT. It makes me furious.

    This is what happens when progressives think it is ok to verbally assault women candidates and the media goes along with it for a whole year:

    http://in.news.yahoo.com/139/20100331/900/twl-rape-simulator-game-becomes-internet.html

    Women, unite, we need a revolution.

  • Onofre’s arm

    The area around Cleveland Tn., and Ducktown Tn., is not only beautiful, it’s geologically outrageous. Check it out.

  • karen for Clinton

    Happy Birthday!

    and btw – Thanks for all the great reading material this year!

  • Touchet

    Please, these people can’t be serious can they.  I think lead contamination has caused people in the city to go bonkers or something.

    The news needs to be held liable for spreading such crap.  I wish one of our dear leadership would get his lawyer to sue the crap out of them.

  • Freedom Fighter

    Karen, I think you are mistaken. I usually include links to back up my statements. They are usually from respectable news sources, so I am not the uninformed one here.

    If you compare the sources I cite, such as: NY Times, Washington Post, Time, Huffington Post, Newsweek, CNN, ABCNews, NBCNews, CBSNews, NPR, etc… and the ones you guys normally cite, such as: FOXNews, Michelle Malkin, Andrew Breitbart, etc… who is informed, and who is spewing propaganda?

  • karen for Clinton

    Uppity just informed me she covered this as did NQ back in April of ’09.  I was in Europe for a few weeks last spring and missed all of the postings on all my normal sites so never heard of this till now.

    http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/hells-toy-store/

    and Pat Racimora here:

    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/04/19/hell’s-toy-store/

    It is so unreal to me, I can’t even process it.

  • Buzzlatte

    Look, Ff.  You got owned by Tango.  Admit it and move on to a site that supports your brand of stupidity.

    Defending Obambi and his ilk is like defending the Charles Manson family.  There’s no future in it.

  • Onofre’s arm

    This is just an embryonic American flag. As the fetus develops, the circle of stars slowly migrates to the upper left and the stars inside multiply, and the circle changes into a rectangle. The stripes rotate 90 degrees and also continue to divide and increase in number. The one blue strip disappears since it was just a genetically vestigial element, and is not needed in the adult form. At birth, the fully gestated flag will of course have the full compliment of 50 stars and 13 stripes.

    Now, if I can describe the embryonic development of the American flag in biological terms, it is not surprising that there are ignorant nitwits out there who can morph the Tn. flag into any symbol imaginable, from a neo-Nazi banner to a Tibetan prayer flag. There’s never been a completely effective way to halt the march of the army of organized stupidity, but it’s fun to stick a foot out and trip one of them every once in a while. 

  • candymarl

    What I find interesting is that you couldn’t get President Obama off of the TV or radio for months. Now that America is fracturing not a peep.

    It’s as if the current bunch in power wants the infighting. However, they may have bitten off more than they can chew. Independents are definitely fed up and even some (at least more than before) Democrats are alarmed at what they see happening.

    You couldn’t shut Obama up before or keep him off of TV.  Now, when a real leader is needed to call for calm and to tell everyone to take a deep breath we get *crickets*.  

    Times like these I really miss the Big Dog.

  • Breeze

    INTERESTING SITE:

    http://wayneperryman.com/

  • LisaB

    I’ve got a Sun Studio t-shirt from Memphis!  Memphis – blues and Beale Street – is in West TN.  Nashivlle, Vanderbilt and country music industry is in Middle TN and Smokey Mts. national park, Chattanooga, Knoxville (go VOLS) are all in East TN. 

  • Hokma

    FF – The old Black Panther did not commit terrorist acts? Is that why Eldrige Cleaver admitted that in 1968 the Panthers deliberately ambushed police officers to provoke a shoot-out? Is that why H. Rap Brown is serving life imprisonment for the 2000 murder of Fulton County Deputy Sheriff Ricky Kinchen?

    As far as Joe Stack, not only was he not a member of any Tea Party groups, but he criticized George W. Bush in his suicide letter.

    And the Tea Party has not killed anyone nor did they use any racial language as the Back Caucus is trying to intentionally concoct.

  • LisaB

    OOoooooooo.   And your bear is pointing to the left too. . . . :-P

  • TiredOfSufferingFoolsGladly

    That is the point Freedom Fighter.  Every ‘respectable’ news source you cite as your Holy Grails of Undisputed Truth have shown they are nothing but corporate media whores for the Obama Campaign and all the truly horrific intent behind it.  And I say Obama Campaign for a reason.  He’s still campaigning for mind control of everyone in America, with the help of these media stooges.  He has certainly succeeded with you, with the indispensible assistance of these media outlets that Team Obama has co-opted into a propaganda machine that outdoes Goebbels.

    There are some people who were raised on literature and know how to think and analyze what they read/hear.  And then there are the generations who sucked at the teat of Saturday morning TV and mindless, violent video games.  The operative word there is ‘mindless.’

    Show of hands, NQ – to which group does the so aptly named Freedom Fighter belong?

  • trixta

     Wasn’t Joe Stack a Dem?

  • Buzzlatte

    The thing that cracks me up is that dems and many blacks NEED racism to feel viable.

    Dems and blacks calling others racist is a crutch used so that they don’t have to look at themselves and depend on themselves to improve their situations.

  • Onofre’s arm

    Without the cynical use of racism, the left would be severely crippled.

    95% of blacks still approve of Obama, which is terribly skewed when compared to the general public. Obviously, the major reason for this is a racially based preference, or positive racism. But it is still racism nevertheless. If blacks didn’t let race influence their assessment of Obama, then they would probably more accurately reflect the impression of Obama’s job that the general public has. In other words, Obama’s approval numbers would be in the thirties if not for black racism.

  • Freedom Fighter

    Tea Party isn’t just made up of Repubs, they are made up of extremists regardless of party. Heck, the birther movement originated with the Democrats.

  • Onofre’s arm

    How about the banner in this Video? Looks a lot like the flag of one of the bloodiest regimes in history, the Imperial Japanese flag. Ooooo, those racist and bloodthirsty little brats.

  • WhatNow

    So FF, when my friend, a Japanese/African American who was a policeman in Detroit during the 70″s, was shot and killed by a group of Black Panthers, the Black Panthers, with an arsenal of weapons just  were having a friendly civil rights organization meeting???????

  • Docelder

    But give it time. I think a lot of that 95% is color match hysteria as much as racism. There is still that honeymoon period. Yes, there is  some “white devil” hate out there, I have seen it firsthand… but thre is more misinformation than anything else. I am giving black folks a little leeway to get used to  thei idea of their President being “black”. Once they get used to that idea more will begin to judge him for what he does and doesn’t do.

  • tango

    That’s why you shouldn’t listen to just news reports. You need to read his words and investigate instead of taking the news medias opinion as fact because of course, they made him sound like a Tea Partier.  Media (left and right) will always spin a story to their benefit.  

    Well, it’s unacceptable for anyone to spit and call names.  I don’t believe it was to the level as said since it’s not on any film that’s so far been presented. You can bet, if it was available, it’d be all over the news since the news was there in force taping everything.  Therefore I think it was exagerated. Doesn’t mean it didn’t happen in some amount, doesn’t mean it has never happened, just means this one occurance was not to the extent that has been reported by the MSM. 

  • Docelder

    Not only, but it empowers the “poverty pimps” of the neighborhood. A lot of whom are the clergy who have their mitts in everybody’s pie in the name of child care tax credits, before and after school programs, elderly care programs and so on. If the government pays for it, they are usually into it. The poor people in the hood are glorified livestock and the “poverty pimps” cash the checks.

  • Armymom

    They’re also made up of people of color, count me in as I am joining them. They have more to offer than the racist Black Panther Party and the Sharptons and Jackson’s of the world.

  • Docelder

    All activists are extremists to some degree. Why can some people protest and others not?

  • Tricia

    Geesh–someone needs an eye test.  What is so sad is thatObama was going to unite us since George “The Uniter” Bush couldn’t pull it off. I didn’t think Obama could either, but I also didn’t think he and his administration could do any worse. I have never seen such craziness all around.

    I recall, Ani, also being called a racist because I didn’t like Obama.  Hillary all the way!  I am white,but from California where poeple are supposed to hang a little looser.  But what I am finding is that extremism in both directions ends up somehow meeting.  A circle.

  • oowawa

    Oh, how wonderful–I feel like I’ve flown somewhere over the rainbow and have landed in the Munchkin City . . .

  • bayareavoter

    These people calling the TN flag Nazi are pathetic. Northerners have always been snooty towards the South.

    The thing that makes me nuts is the hypocrisy of the so-called Left. I’ve taken part in many anti-war marches and rallies where I was totally UNcomfortable with some of the racist, anti-semitic, intolerant participants. You can’t choose who joins a movement.

    There are racists and homophobes in the Tea Party movement but most of the Tea Partiers are just patriotic pissed-off Americans.

    There was an article in today’s paper that Karl Rove (someone I cannot stand) was heckled into stopping a book signing in Beverly Hills by Code Pink

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/03/30/state/n061859D52.DTL

    But the so-called Left sees nothing wrong with that; only heckling of the One or his supporters is verboten….

    I loved the news yesterday that Naomi Wolf has become a darling of the Libertarians and the Tea Party–it’s driving the LEFT crazy!

  • oowawa

    As the fetus develops, the circle of stars slowly grows a hairy limb which clutches a large bone . . .

  • Docelder

    I will. Tennessee is pretty all over and it has temperate weather. Believe it or not, you can’t grow a garden in Florida without unlimited water. Which is becoming more and more of a real problem here all the time. Also, you have to use chemicals for the bugs here which defeats the whole idea. I know, people tell me they use tobacco juice or soapy water… we have tried several years now and the bugs always win here. We lived for a short time in PA and natural gadening was very doable there. I think TN will be comparable but not as cold. One more thought on that, if anybody wants heirloom seeds, they are getting harder to find all the time. We just stocked up and several places are sold out of them right now. If you don’t know what that is, look it up. they are seeds that have not been genetically modified or patented and that will reproduce from seed.  I have the idea that GMO seeds will prove unpredictable over the long term. A lot have more nefarious theories. I don’t. I just think we have no idea what the long term effect of this will be on GMO seed viability over time. Just my theory.

  • Onofre’s arm

    Outrageous oowawa! This has made my day! You’re a champ, this one just might go viral.  :-$

  • Onofre’s arm

    “Northerners have always been snooty towards the South.”

    And vice versa, let me tell ya! 

  • ~~JustMe~~

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY. YOU GO GIRL!!

  • oowawa

    Oooops–looks like I accidentally deleted the last logo . . . sorry . . . Anyway, this one is more to the point.

    This is just an embryonic Obama logo.  As the fetus develops, the circle of stars slowly grows legs and begins to flex its muscle.  Pretty; soon, it looks strong and masculine, and begins to dominate its surroundings . . .

  • oowawa

    Oh no–I can’t do this.  This logo is only 1 minute away from deletion . . . 59, 58, 57, 56

  • jwrjr

    It does seem that if activists (like Sharpton) and most Obamacrats were prohibited from talking about “racism” they would have nothing at all to say.

  • William Teach

    The sad part is, the moment you hit the “post” button, Chucky got a little ping on his monitoring program, which alerts him when anyone mentions him and his site. Talk about paranoia. So now he really does know that you were “mean” to him. :-D

  • jwrjr

    “Stupid is as stupid does” … I don’t know who first said it but didn’t Forrest Gump make it famous?

  • oowawa

    As the fetus develops, the circle of stars slowly grows a hairy limb which clutches a large bone . . .

  • owllwoman

    But the left is back to using the racists nazi language of the primarys. Don’t fall for it. We must put this crap to bed for good.  Speak out loud and clear and don’t get hauled into fighting when they call you a racist. Thats their plan. Shut you down and shut you up. The people who do this are down right unamerican, and don’t believe in free speech except for themselves.

  • owllwoman

    Obama behind the scenes is pushing this.

  • Ferd Berfle

    I have chosen to live in Tennessee for 17 of the past 23 years. The six years I spent in the Tricities, WA (with a temp assignment in MD) was horrible and I was extremely pleased to get back here–even though I had to do a bit of pleading to make it happen. Although a native Oklahoman, I prefer the East Tennessee scenery and small-town America. The history here is remarkable and I can’t say enough about how gracious the people I meet here are. I love it here and encourage others to try Tennessee. I still refuse to wear orange and white, however.

    The moron who made the connection between the Tennessee flag and the Nazi banner should read a little and beat his stupid gums less.

  • Ferd Berfle

    We’ll keep the light on, Doc.

  • Ferd Berfle

    You’d be surprised (or not) to learn that race relations in non-metropolitan Tennessee (where I live) are better than any I’ve seen in the six other states I’ve lived in and many of them were in the north (ME, MD, NJ), the plains (NE and OK) and the northwest (WA).

  • Buzzlatte

    Ouch!  The Tri-cities?  Ferd, you have my sympathy.  I’m sure you heard them called the Tri-shit-ies more than once.  

  • Ferd Berfle

    Yeah. Kennewick was a real peach. The only thing I reall like were the rivers. The Columbia is stellar and a drive through the Gorge is nothing short of spectacular. The high desert, though, is ugly and Hanford is an extreme accident waiting to happen.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Yeah. Kennewick, Richland, and Pasco were peachie. The only thing I really liked were the rivers (Columbia, Yakima, and Snake). The Columbia is stellar and a drive through the Gorge is nothing short of spectacular. The high desert, though, is ugly and Hanford is an extreme accident waiting to happen. I did find time, though, in my six years to go to a few real scenic wonders.

    What gets me is that I’m always asked about how “wet” it was in WA. Few Americans know, apparently, that there is a desert in WA and when there we averaged about 3.5 inches a year. One year, we had 180 days without a single drop and a daytime temperatures over 100 for a month and a single day in July of 117 (2002, I believe). I’ll take the humidity her in TN, thanks.

  • Onofre’s arm

    Hey! Back off the Tri-Cities! I loved living there, the outdoor activities were endless, I still have great friends there, and I can still see, even in the darkest nights, from the glow produced by my own body from working at Hanford.

  • Onofre’s arm

    Hey oowawa, I posted my deep gratitude for the honor you’ve given me, but it apparently never showed up. So….again, thanks for your ingenious tribute.

  • Ferd Berfle

    “and I can still see, even in the darkest nights, from the glow produced by my own body from working at Hanford.”

    Unfortunately, my glow from Hanford is compounded by the glow from Oak Ridge.

  • Buzzlatte

    Yes, somewhere there’s a badge with my name on it with a measure of the radiation levels I took in while touring Hanford.  They were very afraid of the unknowns on the reservation thirty years ago.

    I loved driving through the Tri-Cities, not driving in them.  But hey, I’m just a snob from Spokane.  LOL!

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Ferd, I can guarantee you, as someone who grew up in NC, I never saw the kind of racism growing up that I saw when I lived in Chicago and Boston.  Wow – it was shocking.

    And I have to say, the Northerners were VERY snotty, condescending, and arrogant to those of us from the South at Union.  Yet, many of them had never even SEEN an AA until they went to college, which I found “incontheivable” (for those “Princess Bride” fans among us).  I could not imagine not growing up with AA people. 

    The church that supported me for ordination when I was still Episcopalian was almost totally made up of AA people (my family was the only white family in the congregation after the white priest and his wife went to another church).  So you can imagine my consternation at automatically being labeled a racist by people who knew no AAs simply because I was from the South.

    That being said, people in Charleston still refer to the Civil War as “the recent unpleasantness.”  :)

    Anywho – for ANYONE to see the TN flag and assumed it had ANYTHING to do with Nazis is just ridiculous.

  • Senneth

    Go Arabella! :)

  • whoframedrudy

    “Bush did that”.
    But that’s just the thing.  Bush didn’t do that.  Coulter/Limbaugh, etc. are not the Republican GOVERNMENT!  I distinguish between the Tea Party citizens and Karl Rove.  Cheney was brutal on the Democratic Party, but I don’t recall him slandering anti-war protestors.  Like co-President Hillary bashed the daylights out of Republican elites, but never Republican voters.  That’s a huge difference.

    Now maybe I’m wrong, if someone has a link to Bush or Cheney bashing grass-roots dissent.  I just don’t remember it.  Cheney’s dominant message was “Democrats are weak on terror”, not “anti-war protestors are traitors”.  Bush pretty much ignored the protestors.  Team Obama’s dominant message is “The Tea Party is racist.”

    This Charles Johnson is following the lead of the Speaker of the House and Clyburn, the Democratic Whip.  DNC fundraising letters mock ‘teabaggers’, they target dissenting American citizens in their campaign ads.  So yes, Team Obama is more hostile to grass roots dissent than Bush-Cheney.

    I think the Dems have given up on independents and are just trying to terrify their base to boost turnout.

  • lorac

    I didn’t know that about the Californian flag.  I think our flag needs some more bears on it right now lol

  • lorac

    Polls in PA not withstanding….

  • lorac

    I’d say his very own words carry a bit more weight than “news reports” – and we already know you get yours from “3 dozen attendees at the Palin rally in Nevada” CNN…..

  • lorac

    Exactly jwrjr – except they could talk about how well so many blacks are doing, and use it to encourage other blacks to work hard – just like OUR parents told us.  But then Sharpton et al wouldn’t get the money or TV interviews, because the media wants divisiveness…

  • PortiaElizabeth

    OMG! That’s the funniest thing I’ve read in a long time! LOL!
    And yet those same doofuses continue to call us ignorant. Is there some new soft drink that makes you stupid?

  • PortiaElizabeth

    Arabella — congrats and Happy Birthday! Woohoo!

  • PortiaElizabeth

    Nah, the Lone Star of Texas is white. That either makes Texans racist or Californians commies. And take a look at the Ohio flag. That’s gotta be a sign of dissent. It doesn’t even look like the other flags.

  • PortiaElizabeth

    Don’t forget Dollywood.

  • Karma

    The Masons….in their plan to take over the world…..paid for my Grandmother’s care when family could no longer take care of her.  Her Alzheimer’s became known right when my mom who was caring for her passed.  My aunts couldn’t and wouldn’t step up.

    Love those Masons.

  • bob

    WNC is nicer, but then, thanks to rock slides, you can’t get here from there. :-D

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