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Fourteen Reasons Why Biden Was a Stupid Choice

An Exclusive for No Quarter by Democratic Political Strategist (incognito) “Sam Copeland”

The selection of Joe Biden as the Vice Presidential nominee by Obama was a big surprise for me. Biden was not even on my list of finalists.

Why?

I didn’t think anyone – not even Obama – would make a strategic blunder of this magnitude.

For the record, I really like Joe Biden as a person and as a Senator. My analysis is simply political and doesn’t speak to his abilities as a Senator.

The typical criteria for selecting a VP include one or more of the following: (a) win a key state, (b) reinforce a message, (c) balance the ticket (cover different regions of the country), (d) bring the party together, (e) provide a contrast favorable to the candidate (Nixon selects Agnew, Bush selects weaker Quayle), and (f) enlist a hatchet man to do the dirty work. With the exception of “f”, Biden does none of these and he does “f” at a big cost.

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In announcing Biden as the VP selection, New York Times summarized in a nutshell the problem with this choice:

It reflected a critical strategic choice by Mr. Obama: To go with a running mate who could reassure voters about gaps in his résumé, rather than to pick someone who could deliver a state or reinforce Mr. Obama’s message of change.

Here are my 14 reasons why this is a terrible political decision:

1. During the primary, Biden made many remarks about Obama’s lack of experience and the need for experience in order to be President. That has already given the Republicans a free round of attacks. Throughout the campaign there will be constant contrasts between Biden’s experience and Obama’s lack of it, further questioning Obama’s readiness for the office. Americans don’t care if the VP has experience; they want it in their Commander in Chief.

2. The selection of Biden sends a mixed campaign message. The Obama message was about hope and change. In politics, you must “stay on message.” This sends a mixed message — do you need hope, change, and judgment to lead the country or someone who knows what they are doing? If you say both, then you get into a nuanced discussion of when you need hope vs. experience, why can’t one leader have both hope and experience, and so on. Contrast this with the pick of Senator Gore by Governor Clinton in 2000. This reinforced the message of “A New Democrat” (since both had similar political philosophies).

3. To paraphrase James Farley — one of FDR’s ’36 campaign managers and DNC chair, “As Delaware goes, so goes Vermont.” In other words, Delaware’s 3 electoral votes should have been in Obama’s column before this pick; it gives him no pick-up. Contrast this with picking Kaine or Bayh, who would have put Virginia or Indiana in play. (The original Farley quote was “As Maine goes, so goes Vermont.” Maine and Vermont were the only 2 states won by Alf Landon in 1936; up until that election Maine was considered a bellwether state in predicting the outcome of national elections).

4. Obama’s electoral strategy was to reconfigure the map by making gains in the Western states. This pick does nothing to help in that area. It actually hurts. Why would people in Colorado, Nevada, Montana, and New Mexico be impressed with a Northeasterner? Contrast with Clinton/Gore 2000 where both were Southerners and thus made the statement, “We are here to win the South.” The selection of Biden also writes off Southern states. Obama had hopes in Georgia and North Carolina; I don’t see how it helps in the border states or in Florida.

5. Obama’s election strategy has now become the equivalent of drawing to an inside straight in poker. He hasn’t secured his base states (particularly Ohio, Michigan, and Pennsylvania), but yet he is campaigning in states like Colorado. Ohio, Michigan, and Pennsylvania are like the inside cards he needs to draw a straight. Biden helps with eastern Pennsylvania because of his roots and religion, but not with Ohio and Michigan (with fewer Catholic populations). In other words, Obama just spent a lot of political capital to win a state – Pennsylvania – that he should be winning by larger numbers anyway.

6. The argument for Biden is that he will appeal to the Hillary base of blue collar workers. This is somewhat true in Pennsylvania where there are strong Catholic ties. (Hillary’s strongest support among men came from Catholic blue collar workers, who Biden should also appeal to). However, blue collar workers in Ohio and Michigan do not have those Catholic roots and it is not clear how much Biden will help. Furthermore, Biden does little (and most likely does harm) in securing the other major portion of Hillary’s base — women. Symbolically, Biden is from the “old white boys” club and is only moderately pro-choice (a NARAL rating of 36%, although he is probably more pro-choice than this number suggests). Some women are already suspicious of Obama’s position on abortion, and Biden’s selection doesn’t help reduce those concerns. I think the selection of Biden indicates that Obama now realizes he needs to unite the party and secure the votes of traditional Democrats; this is a poor tactical play in a correct strategy that should have been executed throughout the primary and completed no later than June.

7. Biden is gaffe prone. Already, the news media is covering past Biden gaffes. This takes away from the impact this announcement was suppose to have. Further, if Biden makes one or two gaffes during the election, then that will take Obama off message for a week or two as everyone tries to cover for them. That will be costly.

Biden’s past gaffes make him look like a quarterback who has some great abilities but who fumbles the ball and throws interceptions as critical game moments. Thus, in voters’ minds, you have a situation where you are starting a high school quarterback in the Super Bowl, and this high school kid is being backed up at quarterback by a veteran who is capable of playing at a high level but is also prone to make critical fumbles. No one wants to go into the Super Bowl with this quarterback situation and, if you had to, you would go with the veteran back-up as starter and not the kid. This is not the image you want if you want to win the Presidency.

8. Biden’s strength is that he can deliver a strong blow to his opposition if need be. He is a great hatchet man. But, this comes at a cost including: (a) he also makes gaffes, (b) it undermines Obama’s claim to run a different campaign (he really boxed himself in with this promise), and (c) he spent a lot of political capital on a hatchet man. In sports metaphor, you have spent a first round draft pick on a person who comes off the bench to foul instead of a franchise player. Obama needs an attack dog. However, given that he has promised a clean campaign, the attack dog can’t be too close to Obama (say, like a VP pick). Instead of making his VP a hatchet man, he should have developed a team of surrogates and made use of his netroots for stealth attacks.

9. Biden supported the resolution to go to war. If it is about judgment and not experience– as Obama has proclaimed — then Biden does not have the qualities needed to be President. Biden also has a different plan to end the Iraq war (withdrawal vs. stay there long enough to sort the contending coalitions into their own geographic space). This mixed message can be exploited by McCain as he uses one against the other.

10. Biden supported the bankruptcy law and legislation favoring credit card companies and banks. This now neutralizes a key democratic issue in the campaign: sub-prime lending and the economy in general. Depending on how the issues in the campaign unfold, McCain can exploit this to drive a wedge to further separate blue collar workers from the Democratic Party (and thus neutralize Biden on this strength). McCain can also use Biden’s connections to the financial industry to show lobbying ties and thus neutralize Obama on this issue.

11. One of Biden’s major strengths is his patriotism. His son is leaving his post in Delaware state government to go serve in Iraq. This is an inspiration to most Americans. Obama probably thinks that it will neutralize McCain’s war record. Here is what will actually happen. McCain will praise Biden and his son for their service to America. Biden will need to reciprocate and praise McCain for his service (or else Biden looks like a jerk). With McCain and Biden praising each other for their service to America, guess who is left out of the discussion? Answer: Obama. Where is his service to America?

12. Biden was accused of plagiarism in 1988. Do I need to say more than this: “Change you can Xerox.”?

13. Biden has over 30 years of speeches, votes, and positions. The Republicans have this material indexed. This gives them an enormous amount of material to be used on a tactical basis as the campaign unfolds.

14. Last week, David Gergen noted that the Obama campaign was losing momentum and needs a game-changer. Gergen is correct in his analysis. The selection of Biden is not a game-changer.

The left-wing blogosphere is changing course and now come, not to bury Biden, but to praise him. They marvel at what a great choice this is (last week they were saying the opposite). They also are in utter admiration for how the selection was announced.

Over at Daily “I-Think-Ned Lamont-is-a-Winning-Political-Strategy” Kos, they put it this way:

This has been the best Veep rollout EVER. . . . [I]s there a better example than this that old media is getting left out in the cold?

Let me conclude by telling you why his roll-out of this announcement was actually terrible.

1. Way too much hype for the selection. Obama hyped this thing up and had everyone on pins and needles for — Joe Biden? Had it been Al Gore or Hillary Clinton or someone like that, then it would have made sense. This is like a nonstop 2 week PR blitz for the movie Gigli.

This hype comes at a cost. First, it reinforces the perception that this campaign is about Obama and not about the American people. Second, I am seeing more and more that Americans are growing fatigued –call it Obama fatigue– by all the theatrics. They want to know how their lives will be better.

2. Daily “I-think-Ned-Lamont-is-a-Winning-Political-Strategy” Kos is absolutely correct that this roll-out made the media look bad because they were not supposed to be the first to know. And this is a good thing? Who do you think will be filtering the news for most Americans during this election cycle? The media is lazy and doesn’t do its job; the one thing it likes most of all is being perceived as being in the know. This roll-out undermined that perception, which can’t help but anger the media. How do you think they will even the score?

3. The use of text messaging was a brilliant idea. It helps build excitement, involves people in the campaign, and builds a voter base. That being said, it was poorly executed, and did more harm than good. Those folks who signed up for the alert were NOT the first people to know, as promised. The media scooped Obama, anyway. This was a let-down to all those who signed up. It sends a signal that Obama really can’t change things (the media is still in control).

The media figured it out because they knew to watch the Secret Service as a tip-off. They knew that the first person to know would not be the text-messengers but the Secret Service, and that the Secret Service would show up to Biden’s house before the announcement. Obama’s people didn’t know that. Obama thought he could out-fox the media, but didn’t know enough about how the media works its sources to do so. Once again, he is the rookie high school quarterback playing in the Super Bowl. He thinks he is clever by calling the “Statute of Liberty” play, but the play gets quickly shut down by a vastly more knowledgeable and experienced press corps (at least more experienced at these sorts of games). The end result is a dissed media, disappointed supporters, and a reinforced rookie image.

Sam Copeland’s Political Rule #29: You cannot make up a political deficit by hiring a surrogate. That only makes the political deficit more apparent.

  • Sam Copeland

    Rule #29 should read:

    Sam Copeland’s Political Rule #29: You can NOT make up a political deficit by hiring a surrogate. That only makes the political deficit more apparent.

    • http://IthinkIfeel... Pat Racimora

      Hi Sam,
      I went into the “editing room” and fixed Rule #29.

      Your analysis is so good that I hope it gets picked up and posted all over.

      Thanks so much again for writing this for us.

      • Danny

        I’ll bet there are a lot more than that! This one is a lot more petty than Sam’s rule #29 above… but how about that deluxe comb-over mullet? That can turn your stomach.

        • MEchelle Hates America!

          Plugs? He’s pretty proud of that white monstrosity.

          • http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal Paul F. Villarreal

            New MUST-READ article on Politico:

            ‘Tensions boil between Obama-Clinton camps’

            http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12782.html

            Barry is whining, and the Clintons are making their move to have Barry give in to their requests.

            Barry has no choice. The polls are falling, and it’s almost all Clinton supporters.

            We told you, Barry.

            Welcome to the big leagues, kid.

            The Clintons are still fighting for us, and for them to be treated correctly.

            If people thought Barry looked weak before, wait until they see this.

            • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

              From Politico:

              This is an especially sore point for Bill Clinton, people close to him say, because among many grievances he has about the campaign Obama waged against his wife is a belief that the candidate poor-mouthed the political and policy successes of his two terms.

              Yeah, I am still peeved of the AUDACITY of Obama bad mouthing the success of Bill Clintons Presidency. I can imagine how Bill feels.

              No one in the party chastized Obama over that transgression. That was my final clue that the fix was in, by the DNC, for Barry O.

              Obama’s problem is there is nothing, NADA, not a damn thing he can do to repair the damage and rift he created in the party.

              And, to compund the insults, the Obots still think this is a coronation. They are still comparing Hillary’s holdouts to Japanese soldures who did not surrender, or hear that the war was over.

              The War is not Over PAL. You ain’t president yet, and the insults are not going to get me to fall in line.

              McCain ’08

              • Hope Floats

                Hillary’s 3am ads must have hit harder than anyone in the media or Obama camp let on. The resounding outrage from the Dem higher-ups and Obama supporters was deafening. This must be why WJC has been asked to talk about being ready to be CIC. It’s a petty and stupid move from Obama, but maybe he thinks he is strong on the economy, anyway.

                • bmc

                  Obama’s petty vindictiveness hits just keep on coming, don’t they? Truly, one has to be blind and drunk on 100 Proof Kool-Aid not to see the massive insecurities driving his compulsion to twist the knife.

                  It only makes me more determined that I will not vote for this man, father-figure surrogate included.

                  His psychopathy is screamingly clear.

                  Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

                  • mimi

                    It is unbelievably stupid on the part of the 0bama campaign to force Bill Clinton to boost 0bama on foreign policy. Let another speaker do that.

                    If 0bama has any chance at all, it’s tempting voters to vote Democratic because of the economic legacy that Bill Clinton’s administration left.

                    There’s a school of thought on the right, that Bill left the door open in the foreign policy dept. Not that I agree with that, but when you use someone, you go with their strong suit, and in Bill’s case it’s the economy under his administration.

                    To me, this is another slap by 0bama’s handlers who really did not like the economic initiatives of the Clinton years. So they must be more in line with the Bush/Cheney agenda. There’s no other explanation.

                    0bama keeps making mistake after mistake and then wants to blame the Clintons.

                    You’re on your own pal.

            • joseyj
          • artemis

            well he couldn’t hire the first hair piece he wanted because of the infidelity scandal, so he had to settle for second best.

        • http://! Clinton Fan

          It certainly does neutralize those who make fun of McCain’s hair.

          • Tattie

            Biden’s hair reminds me of Ace Ventura, Everytime he looks down the bsck of his hair comes up.

          • Heather

            Neutralizes those making fun of McCain’s age, generally.

    • churl

      I prefer “cannot”; yes, it is an older version and newer dictionaries let you by with “can not,” which applies more to green beans than ideas. When it comes to spelling and politics, not all change is good. (For further reinforcement, contemplate the “less and fewer” rule while thinking about Sen.Clinton and who her Veep choice will be.)

    • Dr. Kate

      Excellent Sam Copeland and Pat R!

      The women piece could also be enhanced by a discussion of Biden’s role in permitting the destruction of Anita Hill. I remember that and it won’t go away.

  • DCMediagirl

    Excellent points all, particularly on the bankruptcy bill, which will make the Obama lefto amen corner nuts. But you took the words right out of my mouth on this critical matter:

    Biden has over 30 years of speeches, votes, and positions. The Republicans have this material indexed. This gives them an enormous amount of material to be used on a tactical basis as the campaign unfolds.

    Anyone who whistles past this particular graveyard need only look to Kerry, John F. Biden has a well-earned reputation for being in love with the sound of his own voice (even by the standards of a Senator). GOP and 527 oppo will have an easy time finding something to scare voters with, especially if Obama persists in spinning Biden as the guy who the country could trust to step in.

    • Ai1een

      “GOP and 527 oppo will have an easy time finding something to scare voters with, especially if Obama persists in spinning Biden as the guy who the country could trust to step in”

      But with Biden, the question is…step in WHAT? He’s either plagarizing or stepping in xhit that he’s dropped himself.

      Obama can’t seem to get his words OUT and Biden can never SHUT UP. What a duo!

      • HARP

        snicker

  • catherine

    Excellent analysis. I agree with all of your remarks.
    That is why the race is a dead heat. Biden has done little for the ticket. But then who wanted to be VP? Not exactly something to look forward to when the person in charge is so inexperienced and unqualified for the job. Who wants to do the bulk of the work and get less of the credit? Maybe someone like Biden who knows this is his end game.

    • Nicole

      If only others in the Democratic Party (well, the Democratic cabal), and in the media, were as astute as “Sam Copeland.”

      Sam’s brilliant.

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Milquetoast and Wonderbread. Sweet. No nutritional value whatsoever.

    • Dr. Kate

      “white” bread, too!!!! /snark

  • yttik

    I’m angry about people telling me I have to support Obama now because Biden graciously granted us the violence against women act. BS, it’s was women’s work and spilled blood that drove VAWA. NOW, domestic violence advocates, men, women, it took an army and incredible hard work to pressure a Senator to take that on. Yes, Biden eventually listened to the will of the people, but it makes me angry that I’m now being lectured about VAWA as if I wasn’t there and Biden somehow came up with the idea all by himself.

    • Pink Panther

      Hillary and her supporters were abused by Obama, his supporters and the new Democratic Party and now we are suppose to forget about it and become one big happy family.

      If I was in an abusive relationship and my significant other came back saying “get over it and get back in line,” I would tell that person the same thing I’m telling the new Democratic Party and Obama. I don’t need you, won’t take your abuse any longer, and will go elsewhere.

      No OBAMA!

      McCain ’08

      America before political party.

      • helen

        It is time to start singing the old Thresa Brewer song “I got along without you before I met you I’m gonna get along without you now”.
        This bastardized new democratic party has to go.

        What was the deal about a bill helping the troops with their debts that Biden voted against?

        COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

        PUMAS,BUBBAS,THOSE PEOPLE AND HILLARY’S HARRIDANS RULE

    • Kelley

      selecting a man and promoting his marginal track record in women’s rights in hopes it will quell women voters is pathetic

      how about backing an actual qualified woman.

    • Ai1een

      Where the heck was Biden when Hillary, on a daily basis, was victimized, attacked and threated by the media, especially Keith Olberman’s rant about a SuperDelegate taking Hillary in a room where only the SuperDelegate walks out. What about the Obama supporters who posted on Obama’s website about slitting Hillary’s throat and throwing her in the Allegheny River?

      Biden didn’t come out and say one word yet we’re supposed to kneel down and bow to the Violence Against Women Act? Give me a break. ACT is the operative word here…it was all an ACT.

      What did Biden actually DO for a FEMALE in his own PARTY who was being abused? NOTHING…ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

      • joseyj

        Obama is the only person to ever call me a racist! – which included ALL the voters not supporting him.
        Even now – Obamabot callers on Washington Journal and elsewhere declare the Hillary supporters that aren’t supporting Obama are 1) being petty and still mad she didn’t win, or 2) they’re racists.
        Obama nor his supporters get it!

        There’s been no apology from Donna Brazile or anyone in the party for her egregious remarks on national TV that the Dem Party no longer needed Whites and Hispanics to win elections.

        Obama never responded to Bill Clinton’s recent remark that he wasn’t a racist.
        When Obama declares the Clintons are not racists, perhaps I’ll consider voting for him. But since Obama won primarily because he cast the Clintons as racists – and because Obama RARELY apologizes for anything – it’s doubtful that will happen.

        • Heather

          I’m with you. Bill Clinton deserves a huge apology from Obama, from his campaign, from the national media, from the black leaders who knowingly let the race smear be used against Clinton (Brazile, Clyburn come to mind).

      • artemis

        Biden couldn’t respond to any of that because he got neutralized early when he was vilified for saying that Obama was well spoken, intelligent, and sharp. He was toast as a candidate from that point on. It’s completely idiotic to think that he can possibly take a stand against legitimate attacks on his policy when he couldn’t make a credible argument that calling Obama smart and well spoken does not mean that he thinks everyone else isn’t. How can possibly defend his voting record if he can’t fend off this kind of ridiculous attack? or was this why he was chosen in the first place?

        • Rob in Chicago

          artemis:

          You forgot? Biden called Obama “clean” too, even after MEshelle, whom I presume actually gets close enough to know, says that her husband is “stinky.”

    • kenoshaMarge

      Don’t forget Biden enabled the gangbang of Anita Hill in the Clarence Thomas hearings he chaired.

      Granted he went on to vote against Thomas, but if he had done his job Thomas would not sit on the Supreme Court and Professor Hill would not have had to suffer as she has done for simply telling the truth.

      Joe Biden/Anita Hill link:
      http://www.aliciapatterson.org/APF1602/Graves/Graves.html

      That’s reason #15 if you are courting the woman’s vote. Nice guy? Nice guys don’t let what happened to Professor Hill happen on his watch.

  • candy

    McCain will praise Biden and his son for their service to America. Biden will need to reciprocate and praise McCain for his service (or else Biden looks like a jerk).

    For the record, Biden will also need to praise McCain’s TWO sons currently serving in Iraq.

    • Dr. Kate

      And now two of Biden’s sons–Hunter and Joe–have been indicted for bilking investors of millions of dollars.

  • HARP

    After all this hoopla at the DNC convention, I would like to see McCain come out on stage with a single chair and say…..”My fellow Americans our country is heading in the wrong direction. Now lets have a serious conversation”……..

    • Linda K

      Gawd, Harp, that would be a MOMENT. I hope it happens.

  • There’s No Bama Like Obama

    So the genius of the western world can’t outwit the MSM; what’s he going to do when pitted up against an opponent with more than half a brain? Elect Obama and he’ll make America what it once was; colonies of Great Britan, France and Spain.

    • Zee

      Yeah, the botched text message was pathetic, and par for the course.

      So much for all the “experts” Obama hired.

      • DAB

        Well they did get it out at 3 a.m. — sure that was intentional. Great way to get the Clinton supporters to “come around” don’t you think?

      • joseyj

        >>>>Obama thought he could out-fox the media, but didn’t know enough about how the media works its sources to do so

        I don’t think Obama cared that the media scooped him.
        It was the buildup and hype that counted – and Obama knows his young supporters all love hype.

  • http://hillaryorbust.blogspot.com Hillary or Bust

    Excellent piece. You have to wonder what Obama is smoking with his decisions sometimes. Can you imagine Obama as president? He’ll be text-messaging his negotiations to Iran. Yikes!

  • Northwest rain

    Bidet was a stupid choice for all the reasons stated PLUS women have a very long memory.

    Anita Hill — Clarence Thomas.

    With the all boys team — there is nothing in it for women. It is politics as usual — nothing new — nothing different and no “change”. The only thing that team Obama has is — the GOP is going to “take away abortion” — so that means a status quo for women if the boy’s team takes the white house — which is another boys ONLY club.

    I am sick of this boys club crap. Soetoro made it very clear that he HATES women — has no respect for women. Fine — I have no respect for narcissistic jerks. Soetoro belongs in jail NOW with Rezko.

    So what is in it for me? Security? Not from the Obama-Bidet team. Is Bidet knowledgeable about health care — universal health care for all Americans? Not that I can see.

    Foreign policy expect — really? Prove it.

    Bidet keeps running and voters don’t seem to like him — will the Republicans be two faced enough to link Bidet’s name to the Credit card give away? Since this was the GOP’s baby???

    In the end — I do believe that Bidet/Biden was the only guy who accepted the date to the prom.

    Both Soetoro and Bidet are creepy — slug like creatures from hell.

    PUMA

    Party Unity My Ass

    • Will Smith

      About foreign policy.

      Will the next president actually bring about Big Change? Don’t get your hopes up.

      Regardless of who wins Nov. 4, we should temper our expectations of what George W. Bush’s successor will accomplish, especially on foreign policy.

      In reality, presidents don’t make policy; administrations do. To judge by the cadre of advisors they’ve recruited, neither candidate holds much affinity for outside-the-box thinkers. Obama’s “national security working group,” for example, consists chiefly of Democratic war horses, including former secretaries of State Madeleine Albright and Warren Christopher and former national security advisor Anthony Lake — a group that is not young, not charismatic and not known for innovative thinking.

      http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-oe-bacevich24-2008aug24,0,1685703.story?track=rss

      • joseyj

        The media is “explaining” – Biden will enhance Obama’s LACK of foreign policy experience.
        But that’s a LIE!
        Biden compensates for Obama’s LACK of experience in ALL areas - not just foreign policy.

        Now we’ve got another Father-Son duo – like Cheney and Bush.
        Pathetic.

    • Hope Floats

      “Bidet” AHAHAHA.

      • alexei

        I laughed at that too! Soetoro/Bidet – what a ticket!

  • Northwest rain

    Wordpress is having indigestion again. Second try to post.

    Bidet was a stupid choice for all the reasons stated PLUS women have a very long memory.

    Anita Hill — Clarence Thomas.

    With the all boys team — there is nothing in it for women. It is politics as usual — nothing new — nothing different and no “change”. The only thing that team Obama has is — the GOP is going to “take away abortion” — so that means a status quo for women if the boy’s team takes the white house — which is another boys ONLY club.

    I am sick of this boys club crap. Soetoro made it very clear that he HATES women — has no respect for women. Fine — I have no respect for narcissistic jerks. Soetoro belongs in jail NOW with Rezko.

    So what is in it for me? Security? Not from the Obama-Bidet team. Is Bidet knowledgeable about health care — universal health care for all Americans? Not that I can see.

    Foreign policy expect — really? Prove it.

    Bidet keeps running and voters don’t seem to like him — will the Republicans be two faced enough to link Bidet’s name to the Credit card give away? Since this was the GOP’s baby???

    In the end — I do believe that Bidet/Biden was the only guy who accepted the date to the prom.

    Both Soetoro and Bidet are creepy — slug like creatures from hell.

    PUMA

    Party Unity My Ass

    • Pink Panther

      The new Democratic Party has become a fraternity. Their pom pom girls, Pelosi and Brazille, are cheering the good old boys on.

      • Northwest rain

        You said it with fewer words!!!!

        Yep — good old boys club and the pom pom girls.

  • bert

    GREAT post. Well reasoned and well thought out by Sam Copeland. Not only does this all highlight just how inexperienced Obama is, but is also shows how inexperienced Axlerod and the entire Obama campaign team is. They are out of their league and way over their collective heads.

    • churl

      You wouldn’t be implying that they are operating above their pay grade, would you?

  • NoQ_Reader

    So we’re basically nominating Rex Grossman?

  • Liz

    Way to go Larry, I liked how you laid out the points. Biden was an awful choice.

    They’re both going down in flames. This was the democrats game to loose, and mark my words they will.

    McCain ’08.

  • camus

    I’m sure Anita Hill is pleased as punch. First Obama trashes Clarence Thomas in his remarks made at Saddleback, and now he takes on the jerk who was supposed to defend her, and all women by extension, during the Clarence Thomas hearings, as his running mate. With mixed message like that, I hope she gets the kind of revenge that comes only in novels written by long extinct Frenchmen. When Obama loses, and Biden’s career is in ruins, how sweet it will be for her, and all the other women (and men) who watched her burned at stake on national television.

    • counthevotesnow

      I have a feeling Anita Hill was for Hillary.

  • http://cinie.wordpress.com Cinie

    Uh, Biden thinks he can deliver the South.
    Aug. 28, ’06

    “Better than anybody else,” Biden said, when asked on “Fox News Sunday” to rate his chances of winning Southern states.

    “You don’t know my state,” he said. “My state was a slave state. My state is a border state. My state has the eighth-largest black population in the country. My state is anything from a Northeast liberal state.”

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14554439/

    • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

      It’s a state of psychosis.

      • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

        It’s an Altered State, and Biden is the Altered Statesman.

    • http://! Clinton Fan

      Yeah, well all those Bubbas down south don’t look at the state the way that Biden does. They see the state as the place where they have to send that goddamn Mastercard or Visa payment every month.

      “DE” means “Oh shit, gotta make a payment on the gol-durn CARD!” not “I wish I was in the land of cotton…”

      Who the fuck does he think he is kidding?

      • Rev. Wright, can you fix my garlic nose?

        that is hysterical…

        reading Biden’s comments, I visualized him plucking at a banjo… Who is he kidding indeed.

        There’s a reason businesses incorporate in Delaware.

        “My state is anything but a NE liberal state”.

        Wilmington DE is in a perpetual identity crisis, hammocked as it is between Philadelphia and Washington DC. I’ve never heard anyone from Delaware wishing the rest of the world would consider them Alabamites rather than metropolites.

    • Heather

      The Obama campaign is absolutely obsessed with race. You ask if he can deliver the South, and the first thing he thinks is “slave state”? Cripes! There’s a lot more to Southern people and their voting interests than race.

      For example … the economy? Stupid? That did it for me. I favored him early the primaries. Now I can see he’s as ignorant and horrible as all the rest of the uptight mommy’s little chauvinists.

  • http://www.latinorepublican.com DD
    • Northwest rain

      That is one hell of a mouse trap!

      • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

        Them’s no Mice, those are RATS!

  • vinnie

    This is like a nonstop 2 week PR blitz for the movie Gigli.

    LMAO.

  • LizM

    Terrific post. This is exactly the kind of well-reasoned and thoughtful commentary that I look to No Quarter for.

    As a senator, Biden has some good points (foreign policy in particular) but as a VP candidate, he’s not even close to making up the deficits in the campaign. This was neither a good strategic or tactical choice.

    • LesleeE

      “Terrific post. This is exactly the kind of well-reasoned and thoughtful commentary that I look to No Quarter for.”

      Yes, excellent. Very well thought out and explained.

  • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

    Gergen must be taking to the bottle by now.

    • Northwest rain

      he’s not even using a glass — probably using a straw.

      • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

        An IV

  • Mydress

    News from Minnesota:
    “Police say Barack Obama’s Minnesota campaign headquarters in St. Paul had three plate glass windows and a glass door smashed early Sunday morning.Police arrived at the Democratic senator’s headquarters about 1:15 a.m. A report says vandals threw bricks through the windows and door and splattered paint on the outside and inside of the building.”

    • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

      Those confused Obama droids don’t realize that Barack won’t OFFICIALLY lose until November.

      • http://! Clinton Fan

        I’ll bet Obama supporters did that–to gin up a little “sympathy vote” in the state he’ll probably lose.

        “Quick, everyone, vote for Obama…so the rest of America doesn’t think we are a racist state!!!”

        I hope they were stupid enough to leave fingerprints on their bricks, the idiots…

        • Hope Floats

          Naturally. The Republicans are going to turn that state after all. Obama just signaled defeat.

    • Susan

      I bet the paint actually said something. i wonder what?

  • ugsome

    Pat, Gov. Clinton chose Al Gore in 1992, not 2000. Al Gore himself ran in 2000, which I most painfully remember.

    • Sam Copeland

      Thanks for catching this typo. You are correct, it was 1992 for Clinton/Gore.

  • TeakwoodKite

    Mr Copland, great insights, thanks for posting this.

    Thanks Pat :)

  • cdo

    awwww, no bounce from Biden.
    and after all the trouble they went to trying to drum up interest with that texting shtick.
    I would have thought they would have gotten something considering all the people who supported Biden during the primaries…oh, wait, nevermind.

    Well surely they will pick up some steam during the unity fest! Obama has really made an effort to make all democrats welcome under the big tent…oh, wait. damn. nevermind.

    • Kelley

      maybe they were really trying to drum up interest for the 3am jab

    • beebop

      I think that they could have named BILL CLINTON after two weeks of non stop BS and gotten no bounce. Come the end of the day, its all Soretoes all the time, isn’t it? So this no bounce should be no surprise.

  • imustprotest

    Biden = “yawn”…..

  • hillaryfighter

    New CNN post-Biden poll:

    McCain 47
    Obama 47

    Down from Obama 51, McCain 44.

    Reason: More PUMAs are now supporting McCain…Biden bounce, yeeeeeeeh!

    I thought bambi was stupid, but didn’t expect him to be as stupid as this… I mean Bayh, Kaine, Richardson, any of these second-tier VP candidates would do better than Biden.

    • imustprotest

      Post-Biden poll…..sounds like a virus.

      • Kelley

        LOL

        or the tool you use to clean your septic tank

  • ybnormal

    These are all very interesting points, but overall, I don’t think they lead to a conclusion of Biden as a bad choice. A lot of this detail could well end up in op-ed columns, but only a minority of voters are likely to absorb the detail to any depth.

    Generally, Biden is about as good a choice as any. I don’t think Clinton as VP was ever realistically going to happen. Frankly I’m glad she didn’t pursue it as hard as she might have. She’s better than that. She’s already been in WH in the passenger seat, no reason to do it again in the back seat. End result is, she’ll come out of this fine, and be stronger next time.

    Basically Biden helps defuse the Obama/Clinton divide, while also adding integrity and experience. Also Biden and Obama already have a working relationship in the Foreign Relations committee, if you can call Obama’s record there work.

    GOP will be hard pressed to do better. Sure Biden has potholes in his track record, but so do McCain and VP contender Mitt (attention all pets – run away – save yourselves) Romney.

    This election will make history as a media bonanza. There’s plenty of fuel out there for a blizzard of news gossip nit-picking, masquerading as legitimate news analysis.
    ———-
    P.S. my wife wishes it be known she’s coining the term “JoeBama” as an election buzzword. Don’t know if anyone else already thought of that, but it’s the 1st I’ve heard it.

    • http://cinie.wordpress.com Cinie

      I don’t understand how Biden helps with Clinton supporters at all. And I find it even harder to understand how he’s going to have influence in a state ( Pa. ) he left at age 10. Said it before nad I’ll say it again, the reason Biden got the veep nod is because when Obama called to offer it to him, Biden answered the phone.

      • ybnormal

        The reason you don’t understand how Biden helps with Clinton supporters is because, unlike the average person, you’re trying to think it through logically and make sense of it. As usual it’s less about sense and logic, and more about image.

        Biden generally comes across well on television, speaks directly to people in plain language, and has long enough senate experience to do well in a debate.

        It’s claimed that Biden appeals to the working class in DE. Whether that will translate into same in PA or anywhere else remains to be seen.

        Would have been interesting to see the result of the so called “dream team”, but the players in the party seemed to think Clinton would be an added risk factor. Go figure. Personally I think she deserves better than the VP consolation prize.

        As often happens, many will find themselves voting for the lesser of evils, instead of who they really wanted.

        • Hope Floats

          What working class in Delaware? He called it a Southern state. Do they have a Waffle House? Does everyone have an accent and drink sweet iced tea?

          Delaware is The Corporate State. It’s an office park with a couple of nice toll roads.

    • http://! Clinton Fan

      Op Ed columns?

      This stuff is on VIDEOTAPE. The Anita Hill exchanges are BRUTAL. I remember; I watched, angered and APPALLED.

      This stuff isn’t going to hide in the bushes–this will see the full light of campaign commercials. And YOUTUBE. Oh, those crazy kids, with their YOUTUBE….funny thing is, geezers like it, too.

      • ybnormal

        I’m sure we’ll have lots of YouTubes on every imaginable topic. I agree the Hill/Thomas episode was a travesty.

        But I’m curious; why would anyone in the McCain campaign bring up Anita Hill as a way to criticize Biden, when the result was Republican Thomas ending up on the Supreme Court?

        This leads me to a question about this post. Biden may be seen as a bad choice by those who have a beef with him, but that’s not the same as a politically stupid choice in terms of an election. So which is he supposed to be, a bad choice, or a stupid choice?

        • http://! Clinton Fan

          McCain doesn’t have to do it. In fact, McCain SHOULD NOT do it.

          An “unaffiliated” 527 will do it. Some outfit with an ambiguous name, like “American Women for Equal Rights” or “Respect for Women PAC,” or something like that.

          McCain will disavow any knowledge of their actions. He’ll shrug and say “I have nothing to add.”

          The idea isn’t to get people (and by ‘people’ I mean left-leaning independents and Democrats) to vote for McCain, it’s to get them to NOT VOTE for the Obama-Biden ticket.

          Voter supression–it’s what for dinner!

          • workingclass artist

            IMHO…This is designed to appeal to the catholic vote which the party has decided is a bigger threat to Barry’s success. Women can be dismissed you see….
            GOP is trying to appeal to Clinton’s base of female voters by reminding them of the anti- female bias in the party….and attract conservative catholics.
            Barry cannot seal the deal with the Catholic vote and Biden won’t help with that….Barry shoulda chosen an hispanic catholic. ButI guess the pickins were slim….chuckle…

        • artemis

          they bring it up the same way they always use hot button topics. they are already painting the way Hill got treated as being Biden’s fault. he just chaired the committee and if it wasn’t for him Hill wouldn’t have been heard from at all. What he should really be blamed for was not letting the other witness speak who was ready to back up Hill’s story. But that nuance gets lost in the message and on top of all of this they get to play endless tapes of Thomas getting trashed for their base. Rove is an expert at making these situations win/win for his candidates. Cause his fanatics don’t care about details, they just want someone to hate and someone to point them in the “right” direction so they can spew.

      • beebop

        The Anita Hill hearings made me ASHAMED for the first time to be a Democrat (watching Biden). This is the second time. Women who watched it will NOT forget. It was an outrage. It was a travesty. It was a moment frozen in time where women were first told to “get over it.” Not this time, baby. We HAVE come a long way! You know something? We have the vote!

    • Emma

      Obama troll. All BS.

    • Susan

      I’ve already heard BoJo

    • Dr. Kate

      Biden does not help with Clinton supporters, and I do not agree with you that he was a good choice.

      Obama is weak, Biden is a joke, they both should be ridiculed. Neither one of them will be able to handle ridicule.

      McCain is going to have fun.

      If barky wanted to win, he would have chosen Clinton. But the goal was never to win, it was to destroy the clinton machine and kick everyone out of the party.

      • Ann On

        Which is why I think Barky’s candidacy has been a Republican operation from the git.

  • Don S

    My first reaction was that Biden might help Obama win against McCain. I have felt Biden was a more genuine person than most politicians, tending to tell it like it is, although he is noted for having a bit of a loose tongue. However, after reading Sam’s reasons why it was a stupid choice, I think the Obot would have been wiser to have picked Clinton or Sibelius as his running mate. Either choice would have probably brought a lot brought more women into his camp, something not likely to happen with Biden. My hunch is that the wisdom or stupidity of Biden as a choice for running mate will become a lot more clear in the week(s) ahead.

    • Hope Floats

      Sebelius might have angered some women who wanted only Hillary. But Obama is weak east of the Mississippi. It is not an encouraging sign his campaign.

      • kenoshaMarge

        I know it would have angered me as a slap in the face, any old female will do meme.

        But to many women it might have given them something to cheer about other than another damn man. and I don’t care what color his skin is if it’s just same old/same old, only boys allowed in the club house.

        How long are 52% of the population going to put up with the boys excluding them? Please no one mention Pelosi. The gender is right, everything else is wrong. Daschle in skirts IMHO.

  • Kelley

    #10 I guess I can try to tie Biden to the criminally high interest rates and aggressive lending tactics

    I suppose it also means he is in part responsible for the housing meltdown and global repercussions.

  • vi

    One voice , One vote , NObama, call to bann together and vote . A silent vote is a no vote, stay home vote , a third party vote, a write in vote is a vote for Obama. Vote experience , record Country first before party , since our party stomped all over Democracy. Nobama ever.

  • bayareavoter

    the text messaging was just a ruse to get all those cell phone numbers in their data base.

    And it made all those bots feel sooo important–they got a message from the Messiah!

    What they really needed was a way to remind their young student supporters and out-of-work supporters (who else can spend 6 hours at a caucus?) to wake up on Nov 4 and get to the polls because his supporters are the ones who don’t usually vote.

    And those of us who always vote aren’t needed this time around.

    • Pink Panther

      Some people have to pay the cell company for text messages. I wonder if Obama worked out a deal that his campaign got a cut on cell companies’ income from all the text messages?

    • http://! Clinton Fan

      Your point might be lost by the skimmers, but it is an EXCELLENT ONE.

      They needed the numbers to tell the punks to get to the polls.

      • churl

        The ones who signed up for this scam are the ones who will be voting for Precious anyway– the choir. So nothing gained really.

  • http://www.clydestuff.com Clydesplace

    Joe Biden needs to learn some humility….He talks too much, doesn’t have self-control, and either doesn’t listen to his friends and advisers who tell him to learn to shut up once in a while, or he’s such a jerk they don’t even dare tell him. Either way, diarrhea of the mouth, and what it suggests about the brain, is the kind of thing that is dangerous in a president, let alone a presidential candidate.

    John Avarosis, Americablog January 31, 2007Joe Biden is creepy…

    Democratic Senator Joe Biden (D-DE) wants to be president. So he’s doing what all good Republicans do, he’s touring the south and making pro-slavery comments to woo the crowds because, I guess, potential presidential candidates just assume that all southerners are still racists pigs. (Then again, the audience loved it, so there you go.)

    - John Avarosis, Americablog December 5, 2006
    My my, how the worm has turned. All of a sudden Biden is everything every Obamablog ever wanted in a candidate. Of course, when the orders come down from the Messiah, the Obamablogs discover they’ve never had a principle they couldn’t sell out at the drop of a hat.

    • http://! Clinton Fan

      I wrote a response to your post about this guy, but it got eaten by WORDPRESS.

      My main point was that Aravosis is being PAID by Team Obama–pretty well, too, apparently.

      He’s part of the NO DISSENT team.

      He thinks because his hag pal Emily who was a Clinton supporter has started watching Oprah again, that the rift in the party is “healed.”

      No, I’m not kidding….

      I thought the guy had half a brain.

      I was mistaken.

  • Rich

    Very good article well thought out. Thank you!

    I think that when criticizing Obama’s choice and all of the fan fare, one needs to keep in mind that Biden may have been his best choice based on those who were willing to run with Obama. I think the fan far was not necessarily done for fan fare purposes, but as a delay while Obama was trying to find someone willing to run with him, that might add something to the ticket.

    With all that Bush has done wrong and Bush’s low ratings and how Obama claiming that McCain is just another Bush, and still Obama polls only 5 points ahead of McCain. I don’t see Hillary, Gore, or any other very qualified candidate wanting to run as Obama’s VP.

    Rich

  • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

    I represent the Anti-Cockroach Coalition and I am proud to say NOBAMA. Just say no to the cockroach.

    I updated La Cucaracha
    La cucaracha, la cucaracha
    Ya no puede caminar
    Porque no tiene, porque le falta
    Hopium que fumar.

    (The cockroach, the cockroach
    Now he can’t go traveling
    Because he doesn’t have, because he lacks
    Hopium to smoke.)

    Ya la murio la cucaracha
    Ya la lleven a enterrar
    Entre tres zopilotes
    Y un esa rata Biden

    (The cockroach just died
    And they carried him off to bury him
    Among three buzzards (Dean, Pelosi, Brazille.)
    And that rat Biden.)

    Would Paul or another video talent like to put these words to music in a video of The Cockroach Obama dancing on the Ellen show?

    Man, I’d love to see that!

    Save the US, Humiliate the Cockroach.

    McCain ’08

    • Hope Floats

      I love Latino music, and I wish I spoke better Spanish. I barely know any.

      • http://IthinkIfeel... Tricia Spiegel

        LOL–Good song, great beat!

  • NOBAMA_18M

    country first so its McCain for me

    stay home = vote 4 Obama
    Vote 4 Nader = Vote 4 Obama
    write in name = Vote 4 Obama

    its McCain for me!

    • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

      18M = NOBAMA

    • Susan

      This PUMA, too!

  • http://safari AnnieCarmel

    Just received an email from an acquaintance who supports Obama (he’s gay, so don’t ask me why). Their latest slogan is “One house, one spouse”, which rather than making fun of McCain only manages to make them sound sanctimonious and self righteous…but then when hasn’t that been true of the Left wing?

    So much for hands off my wife. If McCain is as smart as I think he is, he’ll have an ad or have Rick Davis do interviews somehow revealing that Cindy uses much of her property for care of family (Aunt, daughter and whoever) while millionaire Obama’s relatives live in poverty.

    I won’t be getting on the Democratic joy ride. I can’t condone what has happened and I won’t be appeased by Hillary, Bill or anyone else in the party. I don’t take that condescending BS in my life no matter where I find it.

    • counthevotesnow

      Excellent point and excellent strategy -

    • http://! Clinton Fan

      So all those Dems with their modest little family cottages down by the seashore, that they got from Grampa, they can go fuck themselves?

      Or should they vote for McCain?

      I’m not rich–I have more than one house. Why? I saved my money, I didn’t go crazy buying on credit, I took my time, found “distressed” modest little places, I bought them when they were cheap, and I fixed them up.

      So now I’m a pariah? Because I managed my finances wisely? I thought about securing my old age?

      Fuck you, Obama. And your idiot supporters.

      • Hope Floats

        How many voters in Florida have multiple homes? This is what you do with your savings. Most Americans invest in property. This could hurt in New Jersey, too, which is already leaning red.

  • Barky Soetoro

    #15. If Obama were to win, Biden would end up running for president in 2016, making him a 73 year old presidential candidate. Meanwhile, the Democrats are saying that McCain is too old to run at 72.

    • Susan

      I like the Biden pick because that puts age and Iraq off the table. Since Iraq was Obama’s great judgement and he was running on judgement. He really is a zero, not that I ever bought the whole judgement lie anyway.

      If Obama had good judgement, he would have backed Clinton, the stronger candidate, worked to get the vP spot, and then after 8 years of Clinton, he may have had a chance after gaining experience (were he not a scumbag-that is). To me that would have shown good judgement. To blow all that possibility for your party because you are so arrogant shows very poor judgement. Obama before party, before voters, before country, I vote no. I wish I could vote no more than once, I am so opposed to this prick!

      • LisaB

        Abso-damn-lutely, as my English prof used to say.

  • agent77

    Christians’ plan to pray for rain on Denver has been successful but they apparently provided the wrong directions and time

    http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/aug/24/tornado-warning-douglas-county/

  • John House

    Contrast with Clinton/Gore 2000 where both were Southerners and thus made the statement, “We are here to win the South.”

    Wait, what?

  • Doris T.

    Oh boy, I guess they are a match made in heaven then.

    I’m being cynical. I didn’t start out disliking Obama so much. I knew I was voting for HRC so it didn’t matter if Obama screwed up or did well.

    The bottom line, Obama can’t deliver and he isn’t who his books say he is. He should also be facing charges for campaigning in Europe and for acting as if he held any wait during his middle east visit. A presumptive nominee shouldn’t be so presumptive!!! (ha, ha, ha – I’m really not laughing)

    Where the heck are the individuals like Huntley and Brinkley!

    I hate thinking this but maybe the democrats want a Republican, thinking it will save their congress positions. Meanwhile, voters will be saying it’s payback time as each democrat comes up for reelection.

    There shouldn’t be on the job training nor the use of affirmative action for the presidency.

    The fact that he is so unqualified for the position sure isn’t holding him back. Hey, the MSM and the DNC have unleashed a monster (his true personality behind his smile) who is already a mobster, can’t forget Rezko.

    They have left pandora’s box open so Obama will continue to be the ringleader for the Denver Convention, AKA – The Democratic Circus.

    Sorry, I can’t agree with you about the text messaging. It’s too “high school.”

    I want a presidential election to be dignified, with etiquette, and class. Obama wants to be king, but he acts like he’s going through his adolescent years all over again, and he’s running for boys counselor.

    Maybe he’s in a mid-life crisis! Has he bought a red sport’s car lately? Obama is very high maintenance.

    I don’t understand what the appeal is, if any, about him.

    AND,I wish the MSM would stop using his fictionalized book for their reference, instead of doing the real investigative journalism.

    • Hope Floats

      That’s the problem with Pandora’s box – hope was the last thing out of it. So goes the Obama campaign.

  • Lady Like

    Well thought out article. I believe touches on all the points why Biden made no difference in polls recently for the Chosen One. Biden will NOT effectively bridge the gap between undecided or the wiser Democrats and Obama bandwagon….too much divisiveness and damage done already. He waited too late to try to bring the fractured party together. Also he will further alienate the young voters because this choice = “the same old politics”.

    As some other posters have stated, I believe he chose from the few who actually wanted to run with him as VP. His choice speaks clearly for making up for his lack of experience. He chose to fill this gap rather than add a balanced candidate to the ticket in order to increase his chances of winning. Maybe George Clooney suggested this choice or perhapse Caroline Kennedy, since her uncle was unable to fill the roll as VP?

    OH WELL…Too Bad B. Soetoro….Your Light is Growing Dimmer…..

    I wonder if Scarlett Johannsan and George Clooney received their 3 AM text messages. WHAT A JOKE OF A CANDIDACY!

    REMEMBER:
    No vote= BHOS vote
    Nader vote= BHOS vote
    Write in HRC= BHOS vote
    ONLY McCAIN VOTE = NO OBAMA+Michelle VOTE!!!!!!!
    Country BEFORE Party!

    • Steve-O

      I second that!

  • Susan1968

    My gut tells me McCain knows he’s a one-term president and without the pressures of pandering to special interest groups to assure his re-election, I think the minute he takes oath, McCain will kick butt on both sides of the aisle.

    Let’s be honest — this democrat-dominated senate and congress has done DIDDLY SQUAT.

    The DNC led by Dean now stands for Divide-N-Crap on fellow democrats.

    Reid & Pelosi promised to drain the swamp and all they did was throw a little perfume on it.

    I’m sorry – I’m not too proud being a Democrat these days.

    Look how easily FISA passed (at least Hillary stayed true to the constitution). And a host of other bills that were quietly pass in the night.

    With a Democrat House & Senate majority, and a Demorcat POTUS, there’s a big chance for blue side of the aisle will go as corrupt as the red side did for 6.5 out of 8 years.

    Obama is an unknown entity. His philospohies are all over the place. Mr. Arugala is now Mr. Populist.

    My gut tells me Obama has one goal and one goal only:

    To go down in history as the first African-American president.

    That’s it. That’s all he cares about. The issues are a much LOWER priority to him.

    And he HAS TO serve TWO TERMS. Otherwise a one-term AA prez will seem to be a fluke.

    So Obama will be running for re-eleaction about ten minutes after he takes the oath for his first term.

    And you know what that means — middle of the road, be all things to all people, stay the course, MINIMUM CHANGE, to assure no one gets so upset they will lose him a second term.

    For Obama, it’s about his place in histoy FIRST and LAST. The country will be an afterthought.

    My choice was HILLARY. She is still my choice. But forced to choose one of these two, McCain is the better risk IMO.

    • Northwest rain

      This is what I see from Hillary supporters — a well reasoned and logical thought process — weighing the pros and cons of each individual and finding that Soetoro/Obama comes up short.

      We still have no idea what Soetoro’s core values are — other than living well. I don’t think he likes or cares about poor people. He did the Africa thing looking for his father’s family.

      Oh — we do know that Soetoro doesn’t like nor respect women — that has come through loud and clear.

      And so it has come down to this? Looking forward to 2012.

      PUMA

    • socalannie

      Well said! Couldn’t agree more.

    • http://! Clinton Fan

      I agree with all your points–particularly the kick-off of OBAMACAMPAIGN 2012 right after he takes the oath of office.

      I cannot and will not vote for the guy. The short form reason? He’s STUPID.

    • workingclass artist

      Susan1968….I believe Barry’s goal is more than that.
      Yes, he wants to go down in history as the first African American POTUS but I believe Barry has a VISION that he would prefer not to reveal until it’s too late and in this he does remind me of GWB. Both men were pushed by Idealogues who wanted to fix America according to their own Idealogy. If I assume logically that the campign reflects the ethics of the candidate then we are in for a “new politics” in America indeed,
      Not seen on this scale since The FASCISTS hit the scene in Berlin….I’m just sayin’…

      The Biggest difference that I see so far between Bush and Barry is this…
      The GOP is convined and has been for years that their vision is to return America to the original vision of the Founding Fathers and they have been interested in repealing the advances of the New Deal/Great Society Democratic Programs.
      Barry and his gang of FASCISTS…Have a Big Problem with the Founding Fathers and want to reshape the whole schlamozel as to them it was flawed in the extreme and never represented anyone outside the Eurocentric favored class. What is wrong with both of these is that both ignore the advances that have been made. Both approaches are extreme. Both are two side of the same coin. And Barry is in a hurry. That is the danger….Barry being in a hurry to make changes he hasn’t told us about yet.
      I think one thing is clear….We are veering towards THEOCRACY in America…

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    Elucidation on two points:

    Biden is gaffe prone: Biden is also gaffe-prone with a decidedly RACIST bent.

    —He loves those “clean and articulate” types.

    —He likes to stop in at Dunkin Donuts, and Seven-Eleven; and he will tell you all about it in a SIMPSON’s “Apu” style Indian accent.

    —If that’s not enough for you, let’s go to the tape of Biden badgering Anita Hill during the Clarence Thomas hearings!

    Biden is a plagiarist:

    Biden is to NEIL KINNOCK as Obama is to DEVAL PATRICK. We’ve already been down the plagiarism road in this campaign. Once is “Oh well, my friend Deval gave me “permission” to copy him without attribution; picking someone who did the exact same thing makes it seem as though they think stealing the intellectual property of others is a virtue.

  • http://NoteToSelfDontDie.com/members/ gerard nedich

    Obama is admitting he has no experience and is therefore un-qualified

    but the funnier part is that Biden has no connection to his message of change

    obama has officially turned himself into a joke…

    a. hillary
    b. mccain

    america first!

  • http://NoteToSelfDontDie.com/members/ gerard nedich

    During the years that Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. was helping the credit card industry win passage of a law making it harder for consumers to file for bankruptcy protection, his son had a consulting agreement that lasted five years with one of the largest companies pushing for the changes, aides to Senator Barack Obama’s presidential campaign acknowledged Sunday.

    Mr. Biden’s son, Hunter, received consulting fees from the MBNA Corporation from 2001 to 2005 for work on online banking issues. Aides to Mr. Obama, who chose Mr. Biden as his vice-presidential running mate on Saturday, would not say how much the younger Mr. Biden, who works as both a lawyer and lobbyist in Washington, had received, though a company official had once described him as having a $100,000 a year retainer. But Obama aides said he had never lobbied for MBNA and that there was nothing improper about the payments.

    Campaign officials acknowledged that the connection between the Bidens and MBNA, the enormous financial services company then based in their home state of Delaware, was one of the most sensitive issues they examined while vetting the senator for a spot on the ticket.

    But they soon realized that it really didn’t matter as they were going to steal enough votes to win the election anyway.

    a. hillary
    b. mccain

    america first!

  • HARP

    Four years of this ??

    MoveOn.org, a political action group, has denounced an Associated Press analysis of Barack Obama’s vice presidential pick, saying the article is more similar to “FOX than an unbiased news organization.”

    A statement from MoveOn.org asks its readers to email AP and demand the writer be fired.

    The piece, titled “Analysis: Biden pick shows lack of confidence”, suggests that Obama’s choice of Sen. Joe Biden as his running mate is the “next logistical step in an Obama campaign that has become more negative.”

    http://rawstory.com/news/2008/MoveOn_attacks_AP_writer_for_biased_0824.html

    • http://NoteToSelfDontDie.com/members/ gerard nedich

      can we fire moveon.org?

      anyone?

      a. hillary
      b. mccain

      america first!

      • beebop

        If everyone just pulls their money out they will be in the same spot as Emily’s list and NARAL.

    • socalannie

      Holy crap. Moveon.org calling anyone else biased? This entire election season has been rife with hypocrisy. It really makes me sick.

    • http://! Clinton Fan

      FUCK MOVEON.

      They ceased to be relevant when they departed from their issues-oriented agenda and decided to back a primary horse.

      And speaking of horses, I did say FUCK MOVEON? Well, and don’t forget the horse they rode in on, either!

      • wodiej

        I agree and I add that things like what moveon does and his supporters acting like thugss….well they can keep it up because it shows their true colors. And watch and see how much worse it gets the more criticism Obama gets, when he does badly in debates, when his thugs and punks act ugly. This will just make more people vote for McCain.

      • Hope Floats

        Move On is there for money laundering and showing up and making asses of themselves. That’s it. And their proximity to the Obama campaign is a liability; they make him look like a left wing nut.

    • http://deleted OBSP

      Harp, something is not acting right with me linking stories this morning. The Sun Times is reporting that Senator Emil Jones (BO Godfather) called Del Marie Cobb an Uncle Tom for her support of Hillary. This is why I can not support the Dems in Illinois, they are are all thugs. And it was also report that Bill Daley was the reason that Bidden was choosen. Chicago politics in Washington, help us please!

    • mimi

      Since when did it become common practise to demand the firing of journalist who don’t agree with you?

      If this is the new wave, then please fire Maureen Dowd, just to name one.

      I can’t believe how the msm is kow-towing to this brownshirt bullshit.

      The First Amendment guarantees Freedom of Speech. These people should be LOUDLY condemned for this. It’s alright to support your candidate passionately, but censorship is fascist.

  • DAB

    Very good analysis. Definitely agree that the runup to the announcement was overhyped. Obama clearly enjoyed toying with the panting press corp and created quite a spectacle that proved to be anticlimactic. What a Drama Queen!

  • ownaa

    Liberals have no shame this year. They changed their positions 180 degrees in every issue and back again so they push Obama on America. Either they think all people have no memory at all, or they just don’t care because they were assure that Obama will be the preident no matter what via the same methods applied to the primaries. Which again proves the leftest these days have nothing to do with LEFT.
    I just hope to God that democratic party is no long after Nov

    • wodiej

      no, they are just sure that all Democrats will be good little soldiers and fall behind Obama simply because he’s a Democrat.

  • http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/ NotYoursweetie

    And as a confirmation, the pick brings Obama…a negative bump!
    http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/08/25/biden-pick-brings-negative-bump-7-all-puma/

    • socalannie

      Good news to start the day!

    • wodiej

      I didn’t think Biden would be a big asset to Obama. He barely got any votes in the Primary.

      Voters will overlook alot, extramarital affairs, even shady financial deals. They overlooked alot w Bush because they thought he loved this country. But they won’t go for radical crap like Obama, his supporters and the many people he associates with. So rave on Obama team…you don’t have much time left to do it. You’ll soon be looking for a new “cause/agenda” to promote.

  • Ram

    Hi Sam,
    I went into the “editing room” and fixed Rule #29.

    Actually, ‘Rule #29′ read correctly! (I’m British)

  • Luis

    Great Post. Rule # 1a – You pick must unite the base of the party.
    Sen. Obama clearly has not done this and has instead alienated it even more by texting at 3 AM (a clear reference to Hillary). Do not be surprised when Saturday Night Live returns and shows a skit with Obama texting his friends George Clooney and Scarlett Johannsen at 3 AM while the real emergency phone goes unanswered.

  • Perry Logan

    The Democrats desperately needed someone who was not an incompetent ex-cokehead like Obama, and I guess Joe Biden fills the bill.

    Makes you wonder how they forced him to do it–bribes, blackmail, threats? Are they holding a family member hostage? :-?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4HrSQySus8

  • COMMANDER IN CHIEF

    OBAMA ITS TIME TO WITHDRAW & STEP DOWN!

  • Anonymous

    Looks like a lot of things are above Obama’s paygrade…the question is when will the americans find out – before or after the elections…

  • ame

    Biden will be no help to Obama when it comes to his ties to Rezko.
    http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/rezko/1124666,CST-NWS-rezko25.article

  • Susanjane

    Re reason #6, I am a Florida retiree but my hometown is Scranton, Pa. I still have many relatives and connections in northeast Pa. I am a lifelong Democrat, Hillary supporter who will never vote for Obama. I actually like Joe Biden, but his selection as VP does not impress me. The fact of the matter is that Hillary was the far superior candidate. She was robbed by Howard Dean and his ilk, and I have no respect for my party at this point. McCain will get my vote.

  • ford

    Anybody see the Ed Rendell rant against the MSM yet??? Rendell threw out the most serious charges last night and then called out MSNBC as the worst in front of a packed crowd!!! You have to love him for telling such truth.

    I love it! He and Hillary would have been the ticket to beat….maybe a mutiny is on the table?

  • standard

    Today, the NYT reports that democrats at the convention are
    NOW worried about B.O.’s possibilities.
    Interesting that the paper is suddenly giving news and not ads.

    • socalannie

      what article?

    • abfabdem

      Did you see the Bob Herbert article in Friday’s NY Times? He actually wrote, “Obama was always a long shot to win the White House.” Oh yea? Then why did the DNC pick him???? And why didn’t Bob bring this up before????

  • JM08

    THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM

    There is a reason why Obama could never really “close the deal” in the primaries, and a reason why the generic democratic candidate is running about 13 percent ahead, while Obama is at best running even, and there is a reason why so many of Hillary supporters say they will not vote for Obama.

    Let me just say first off that my following statement is not meant to disrespect pumas or any other Hillary supporters ….

    But the main reason why all the things are happening that I referred to in the first paragraph is this …

    Obama has a cieling …

    Many Hillary supporters refuse to support Obama now, not because they cannot imagine anyone but Hillary as Prez or VP, but because they dont want a black, muslim, with radical ties as President, and thats a big part of the reason they supported Hillary in the first place, and now that its down to BO and McCain, they are once again going to the white candidate or just not voting, regardless of being democrat.

    I know many dont want to admit it, but there is actually some democrats that dont want a black, muslim or ex-muslim, unpatriotic, president of the United States.

    So unless BO bleaches his skin, I dont see any way that he can get above a certain point in his polling numbers, and once the GOP and its 527′s really start actually hitting him hard on the whole muslim and radical ties thing, then his cieling will become even lower.

    I know this is going to make people mad, but the FACT is that the democrats could have nominated ANY generic white candidate and won the presidency in this election cycle, but instead they nominated a black man, which makes there chances slim to none, and considering that black man is at the very least a ex muslim, and is surrounded by unpatriotic people, I would say that slim just left town.

    OBAMA CANT WIN.
    OBAMA CANT WIN
    OBAMA CANT WIN
    OBAMA CANT WIN

    • wodiej

      I think Obama is dangerous because of the company he keeps, plain and simple. Sitting in a racist, American hating church for 20 years, Rev. Wright, Father Phfleger, Louis Farrakhan, Ayers, Rezko, they’re all a bunch of nuts. And I don’t think alot of people have a problem admitting they don’t want an unpatriotic person as President. I sure don’t.

      • Nicole

        JM08, speak for yourself! You don’t speak for the majority of people here.

        Neither Senator’s racial make-up nor his religion make a difference to many Hillary supporters: it’s the fact that a man of no real accomplishments, or talent, has somehow been placed ahead of the best candidate (that being Hillary).

        I think you’re a troll.

    • standard

      Not true dude.
      I guarantee that most Hillary supporters know that she is the best candidate who got screwed.
      And they weren’t keen on Obama’s slime tactics on the web.
      And they got tired of being thrown out of liberal blogs by Obama operatives.

      I don’t think many of us would give a rats ass if he worshiped aliens from Uranus, if he seemed competent and honest.

      He is neither.

      • Steve1

        Standard I don’t think-so Dude! Yes birds of feather flock together. When you take into consideration Soetoro’s upbringing, the secrets, his reluntance to be honest and open, yes, his aossications do count. Americans do take this into consideration when we select our friends, our church and our leaders. Get a clue, dude!

        • Nicole

          No, Steve1, you don’t get it. Standard is just pointing out that it’s NOT (despite what all of the Obamaboils and lazy media twits claims) racism and fear of Muslims that prevent Hillary supporters from supporting BO, it’s his complete and utter lack of “fitness” to command.

          Standard is right.

    • mimi

      Obama is half-white. Don’t you dare saddle the AA community with this biracial fraud. Pity, he chose to let you all forget his white half just to secure the AA vote during the Primary.

      You are right in your belief that there is a core group of racist/bigots who were NEVER going to vote for 0bama. But at one point 0bama did have a fighting chance with white Americans who had put such racism out of their lives.

      But it’s been 0bama’s behavior that blew that possibility. The playing of the race card and trying to guilt white voters into voting for him has created a backlash. Especially because he has nothing to back it up with in terms of experience and qualifications.

      The lack of transparency hasn’t helped and it’s created an aura of major doubt. And trying to counter that doubt with more charges of racism just ain’t getting it.

      Sure the Bradley Effect was always going to be in play. But after all these many months for me it’s boiled downed to this:

      It’s 0bama!

      He simply isn’t a strong candidate.

      • Susan

        My reply to people who are baffled that I won’t supprt Obama from now on is going to be short and sweet. No more arguing with them about how he is a crook since they don’t believe what they don’t see on CNN or what they do see, but is sugar coated on CNN. Nope. No more waste of my breath. From now on I’ll just say, “It’s the lying, stupid!”

    • Dr. Kate

      skin color has nothing to do with it. If barky bleached his skin white, he would still be a liar, inexperienced, ineligible for POTUS, part of the chicago corrupt political combine, etc…

      Many people wouldn’t care what his religion is–but he has denied he ever had a muslim background and that is a lie.

      Why can’t barky tell the truth?

      His ceiling has nothing to do with race or religion.

  • http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

    Well the McCain people are not waiting around with this new ad:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=597YG23mAWs

    • beebop

      Isn’t she the delegate that got forced out?

      • Susan

        Yes, she is!

  • harvey

    The smut machinery is beginning to slip into high gear . Everyone remembers “Frank” and they know he was a registered communist party member. But was Frank Marshal Davis (Obama’s mentor) another LARRY SINCLAIR? Read it for yourself.
    http://antiprotester.blogspot.com/2008/08/frank-marshall-davis-obamas-communist.html

    • Hillary the President

      Harvey,

      Obama’s mother’s name is Stanley Ann Dunham.
      I wonder if “Frank” was talking about her – Ann=Anne

      • Steve1

        Hillary Listen I always said, that Frank Marshall Davis was a confirmed Marxist, and bisexual. He served as Soetoro’s mento for up to 20 years. If you read Soetoro’s book, he cutely refers to Marshall as his Uncle Frank ummmm! It was Frank Marshall who directed Soetoro to Chicago. Makes you wonder about Soetoro, he association with Bill Ayers, who also admitted in his book his bisexuality and radical credentials. Bo’s workout gym in Chicago is also listd as gay friendly. Plus you have Rev Manning’s statements regarding Soetoro’s closet homosexuality….Trinity is also listed as a gay friendly church, ie the murdered Donald Young, gay choir director for over 20 years. Than you have Larry Sinclair allegations and we can’t forget the Stuart Levine Purple Room testimony, “all week-end, drug, all-male parties from the Tony Rezko trial. With all of this smoke and all the strange events surrounding these events, there is something brewing???

        • Raven

          It would seem that all the “pieces” are there
          for quite a story to be told. Can’t wait.

  • Steve1

    Sam Copeland Can you make out what is happening in Delaware, regarding the Biden involvment with the arrest of Larry Sinclair? I find it very strange that Joe Sr. is selected as VP. After his son, the Attorney General of Delaware, signs off and issues the arrest warrent for Larry Sinclair after his NPC appearance! Was this payback to the Bidens?

  • katmandu

    Biden also committed plagiarism in law school, according to this NYT piece that ran when the Bork hearings were in the air:

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0DE5DC133CF93BA2575AC0A961948260

    The danger they fear to their cause is that Mr. Biden will be seen as an unfit evaluator of Mr. Bork’s suitability. An Asian diplomat touched on that point today, musing that ”it’s extraordinary that two of the people judging Bork’s character are people who cheated in school.” In addition to Mr. Biden, who conceded this morning that as a first-year law student he had lifted five pages from a law review article and used it in a paper, Senator Edward M. Kennedy, Democrat of Massachusetts, admitted in 1962 that he had sent a friend to take a Spanish exam for him at Harvard.*** One of the most serious problems for Mr. Biden is that the disclosures about him have seemed to confirm his critics’ complaints. Just as Mr. Hart’s relationship with Miss Rice appeared to lend weight to reports that he was a longtime womanizer, so the news that Mr. Biden appropriated whole sections of a law review article and of other politicians’ speeches, without giving credit, seemed to many to substantiate assessments that he was shallow and insubstantial – ”plastic,” in the lingo of the campaign.

    Tom Mathews, a Democratic consultant who once served as press secretary to Robert F. Kennedy, said Mr. Biden’s candidacy ”is the invention of some very, very talented and clever people, and as is almost always the case when the candidate is invented by somebody else, the invention comes apart and eventually breaks down.”

    He lifted five pages? That would have gotten him expelled from many law schools.

    Also, Biden lied about his resume. Political Punch has a nice summary:

    Campaigning for president in New Hampshire in 1987, Biden admitted he had misstated several facts about his resume after a man named Frank questioned his Syracuse Law School resume.

    ”I think I have a much higher I.Q. than you do,” Biden responded.

    He added that he ”went to law school on a full academic scholarship – the only one in my class to have a full academic scholarship,” adding that he ”ended up in the top half” of his class (not true) and ”graduated with three degrees from college” (not true).

    Five months later, Biden acknowledged that he graduated 76th in a class of 85. ”I did not graduate in the top half of my class at law school and my recollection of this was inaccurate,” he said in a statement. He graduated with one degree — a B.A. — in two majors, history and political science.

    ”I exaggerate when I’m angry,” Biden told the New York Times, ”but I’ve never gone around telling people things that aren’t true about me…’I guess every single word I’ve ever said is going to be dissected now.”

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/08/joe-bidens-mout.html

    • Nicole

      I don’t think Caroline Kennedy, and that other guy, did such a great job of vetting!

  • Linda C.

    I remember when Ed Rendell said that every body had 2 weeks to get over the primary and come together. I think in the past that would have been true. This primary season was different and too many lines were crossed by the Obama campaign and the DNC themselves. The media was shameless. The DNC was disgraceful.

    Biden isn’t going to help that much if at all. Biden is popular in PA. Bayh is also popular in PA especially in the Western part of the state. The question remains would Bayh have been strong enough to deliver Indiana? Obama is such a flawed candidate that there are too many holes to plug with just one VP pick other than Clinton. Clinton would have brought an all around strength as we all know that she is the better candidate.

    Senator Clinton did no want to go through the paper work labor for VP unless she was going to be seriously considered. In other words, she called Obama’s bluff. Good for her.

  • pm317

    Do we know how Biden voted on the Bush-Cheney energy bill?

  • scorbs

    You know that 3 a.m. text message sums up Obama. He promised to tell his supporters ahead of everyone else who the VP pick was. Technically, he did, at 3 a.m. — when no one was awake. He also got scooped by reporterse.

    So what occurred is he promised something that when it came to substance failed miserably.

  • Ana R.

    To be honest I became obsessed with this Presidential race in January 2008. What spurred me on was my son who will be 18 in time to vote this year. My son came home last Christmas telling me he was going to vote for Barack Obama. I asked my son why he felt so strongly. He said, “He wanted to be part of the movement to elect America’s first African-American”. My son didn’t have a clue as to where Obama stood on any issue and didn’t care. I was APPAULED. What’s worse is that this attitude is being promoted in our public schools. Since this time I’ve been trying to teach our children the importance of “issues” and “character” when it comes to our elected officials.

    Even as a 45-year old registered Independent, very early on (prior to the NH primary) my allegiance and support went to Hillary. I firmly believe that the only reasons Hillary lost the primary is due to 1) the bias of the MSM 2) the travesty of justice that occurred with the DNC decision regarding Michigan and Florida 3) the unprecedented “purchasing” of super delegate support for Obama by Pelosi, PAC’s and others.

    I REFUSE to vote for Obama even though I’m a liberal at heart and always have been. While I now plan to vote for McCain; I can’t help but hope beyond all hope that Hillary supporters will be able to pull off some kind of coup during this week’s convention; hopefully for her to be nominated as the presidential candidate but if not please nominate her for VICE PRESIDENT!

    Right now Obama is starting to have problems with several starting to actually vet him. This can only hurt Obama as we all know. (I believe the current Federal lawsuit against Obama, the DNC and the FEC regarding Obama’s eligibility to serve as president my be his down fall.) Obama needs to stay the media darling at all costs. That’s his only chance to win in their view.

    This then brings me to the Biden selection. Why Biden? The only reason that makes sense is because the media also LOVES Joe Biden. Even Fox News’ Brit Hume oozed with praise for Biden yesterday telling, “What a great guy Joe was”. I think the following article from Newsbusters explains it best. Here’s the link.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2008/08/24/cnns-yellin-obama-team-thinks-press-loves-biden-so-will-go-easy-him

    Make no mistake; Biden is a “Washington insider”. As such the best way to learn about him is to follow the money. Once again I think Newsbusters has a great article from which to start the vetting process for Biden. Here’s that link.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/08/23/tapper-obama-decries-lobbyist-cash-biden-has-reaped-it

    I’ve also started reviewing Biden’s voting records and performance on the Senate Committees that he’s served. What’s really interesting is that for Biden’s 30+ years in the Senate, Biden has only served on basically two committees 1) Foreign Relations and 2) Judiciary.

    I’ve started research with the Judiciary Committee. I immediately can across what I believe is a huge example of partisan politics. The Judiciary is purposefully refusing to hold confirmation hearings for ANY Federal Court Judges. This has created a huge problem for Federal Courts across the country with I believe the worse hit being the 1st District which is the North East. The only reason given by the Democratic majority of the Judiciary is that they want Obama to be able to select the Judges and not Bush.

    I can understand this perspective to a certain point. But this inaction is causing some real hardships for lawsuits across the country. The result is that right now it’s estimated that if someone files a Federal lawsuit today, it wouldn’t reach the court room for at least 2-3 years! This is just negligent and irresponsible!

    Sorry for the length of this post!

    Does anyone have proof that Obama’s mother could have never been on Welfare or Food Stamps? I think I saw it mentioned here before but I can’t find the specifics and REALLY need them.

  • http://msnGodhelpusall Lee M

    Biden is on the ticket because nobody else would accept. Who wants to be associated with a running mate who has a lawsuit pending against his eligibilty? There is so much mud coming Obama’s way that Some of it is bound to stick to the other guy.

  • JULIE

    Biden is of little importance. Hussein Obama is the real problem. Because of him we’re going to have another republican in the white house.

  • katmandu

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12781.html

    This is a list of nice things Biden has said about McCain, per Politico. Some of the compliments are very recent. How did Obama ever pick this guy?

  • jjran

    Obama is excatly GWB. He can’t speak well unless he’s reading. To me Obama is the guy who just finished his freshmen year of college with 2.0 GPA and wants to graduate at the top of his class without going three the remining three years of college. Why would anyone with a half brain, one eye, one ear, and one leg vote for Obama?

  • NomNomNom

    I think Biden is on the ticket so that the sd’s don’t bail. Before BHO can participate in teh GE, he has to actually get the nomination.
    Bayh, Kaine, other changey nonentities don’t convince the delegates that they are safe with BHO as prez. Biden is an old hand and unquestionably competent.

  • http://chriss chris

    Wouldn’t it be great if one of them either Bill or Hillary got up there and gave the speech that would chnage political history forever? I know I live in dreamworld and I watch a lot of movies like “Dave” where there is a hero who stands up for the country and it’s people, but it sure would be great if it actually happened in real life. One of those moments where you say “I’m glad I was alive to see this great thing happen.” If just one of them had the courage to shove it to the DNC and said on live TV “We have come here to start a new beginning, a new Party that will take the lead in preserving America, it’s culture, greatness and it’s strength. Come join us and vote for Hillary now. We are with you and she wants to lead you into the future.” That’s my fantasy and that’s why I won’t be watching any of the speeches this week. I know the two of them are planning their political futures and will play the game, but I want my dream of a hero to live on and follow me to the voting booth in Nov. Since it won’t happen via the Dems/Clintons and even though I love HRC, I will be voting for McCain. At least he was a war hero if not a political one.

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  • artemis

    Ironically, someone already wrote it…Aaron Sorkin, season 7 of the West Wing. Almost like he was channeling the future…a huge floor fight, no clear delegate winner. The candidate that is being asked to step aside gives this address after 2 floor votes that have left the party divided…

    Santos: You know I’d been hoping to stand here tonight under very different circumstances, and I have been asked by people that I have respect to take this opportunity to support one of the other fine candidates who have made this race with me, to help decide who our nominee will be. But I can’t do that. I can’t do that because it’s not place to decide who our nominee should be. That decision is yours and yours alone. Now there has been a great deal made about Governor Baker’s decision not to disclose his wife’s minor medical condition. Many people believe that he should have. But I don’t believe Governor Baker failed to disclose it because he was ashamed or embarrassed. I think he didn’t disclose it because we’re the hypocrites, not the Bakers; because we’re all broken, every single one of us, and yet we pretend that we’re not. We all live lives of imperfection and yet we cling to this fantasy that there’s this perfect life and that our leaders should embody it. But if we expect our leaders to live on some higher moral plain than the rest of us, well we’re just asking to be deceived. Now it’s been suggested to me this week that I should try to buy your support with jobs, and the promise of access. It’s been suggested to me that party unity is more important than your democratic rights as delegates. That’s right it’s not. And you have a decision to make. Don’t vote for us because you think we’re perfect. Don’t vote for us because of what we might be able to do for you only. Vote for the person who shares your ideals, your hopes, your dreams. Vote for the person who most embodies what you believe we need to keep our nation strong and free. And when you have done that, you can go back to Seattle, and Boston, to Miami, to Omaha, to Tulsa and Chicago, and Atlanta with your head held high, and say, “I am a member of the Democratic Party.”

  • http://www.nextgenerationcorp.com/nextgenblog/ AdrianS

    One of the best reviews of Obama blunders I have read.

    One thing is certain, choosing Joe Biden as a running mate does not smooth out the road for Obama but instead makes Obama’s road very, very difficult if not impossible; dooming him to a serious downturn on top of his downturn in the polls.

    Down with Obama. Long live America!

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  • tek

    If anybody doesn’t get it yet, Obama only cares about Obama. He’s trying to form a new party that doesn’t include the traditional Dems. He’s exactly like Dubya. He’s also the tool of the corporate wealthy and so are the people behind his candidacy. Think about it. Did the evangelical Christians every think they would ever get an evangelical in the WH? No, so the corporations made it happen to get their handpicked guy in. Did the blacks ever think they’d get a black in the WH in this decade? No. So the corporations got Obama and voila! They’ve got the WH in their back pocket again.

  • lightacandle

    Obama certainly didn’t choose Joe Biden because Biden comes from an electoral vote rich state; Delaware has THREE electoral votes. No state has fewer electoral votes than Delaware has; it’s the MINIMUM any state can have.

    Obama certainly didn’t choose Biden because Biden provides geographical diversity; they both come from northern states — and Delaware was a sure-bet for the Democrats anyway.

    Obama certainly didn’t choose Biden because Biden represents “change”; Biden has been in the United States senate for 36 years — TEN MORE years than John McCain has. So what as all that Obama baloney about the “Washington establishment” being the problem in this country?

    Obama certainly didn’t choose Biden because Biden is free of lobbyist connections; Biden is a wholly-owned tool of the credit card companies and financial services corporations that make their headquarters in Delaware. Biden could never win re-election unless he did many favors for the financial services CORPORATIONS. (And Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, is a Washington lobbyist! I guess Hunter can get in to see any senator he wants to, with Dad’s help.)

    Obama chose Biden for Biden’s foreign policy “smarts” — yet, Biden voted “for” the same Iraq war resolution Obama has been condemning Hillary for voting “yes” on.

    As for Biden’s “working class roots” that the media whores are gushing about, we need to bear in mind that Biden lives in a mansion inside the “Biden compound.” I don’t know many working class folks whose home is inside a “compound” (with all its mansions) sorta like the “Kennedy compound.” Most working class folks live in a house with a mortgage — and those are the lucky ones these days of big layoffs.

    I. for one, do NOT think it is impossible for a wealthy person to care for and work for the poor. After all, President Franklin D. Roosevelt is my idea of a great president, and he was very wealthy. But Biden has voted for his financial services corporate supporters on bill after bill; he wouldn’t last a day in Delaware politics if he didn’t.

    You should also know that Joe Biden bears a lot of responsibility for the fact that Clarence Thomas is on the U.S. Supreme Court. Joe Biden was chair of the senate judiciary committee that approved Clarence Thomas, and Biden roundly insulted Anita Hill for her testimony that Thomas had sexually intimidated and harassed her.

    I like Joe Biden in many ways, but he is the OPPOSITE of what Obama has claimed to stand for.

    BTW, the Obamazoids denounced Joe Biden as a RACIST back when Biden said that Obama was “clean and articulate.” What do the Obamazoids have to say about Biden’s “racism” now?

    • Ana R.

      Fox News reported that Biden’s house was listed on the tax rolls for $1.3 million. This is just for Bidens house and doesn’t include his mothers house or anythinhg else located within the family “compound”.

  • Murray

    Here’s another reason:
    “Obama-Biden-Laden”

  • http://snunes.blogspot.com Susan Nunes

    Shitting on Biden does nothing to help Hillary Clinton.

    In all honesty, Biden should have been the Democratic nominee for president. Democrats would be in a lot better shape than they are now.

    • http://IthinkIfeel... Tricia Spiegel

      To Susan N. If it could not be Hillary, I agree with you. Biden was always my second choice. But if you read Copeland carefully, his analysis is not about Biden per se but about the two of them as a pair, and Biden is NOT in charge (which is part of the problem). Given Obama’s giant ego, Biden may be no more than a lap dog, being used now as a hood ornament to attract a few more voters. As Copeland says, probably not enough.

      We shall see soon enough.

  • http://snunes.blogspot.com Susan Nunes

    By the way, Biden is the most qualified person in the country, after Al Gore, to be president of the United States. His obvious qualifications only emphasize Obama’s lack of them.

  • I Will Remember in November

    Excellent work, Pat.

    Just two words to top off your analysis-Clarence Thomas

    Obama pointed out that he is the worst supreme crt justice ever (okay not ever but you get the point) and then he picks biden who as chairman of the judiciary committee who allowed clarence to be a s.ct justice…huh? If african american’s would example that juxtapose actions-obama would lose some of their support.

    Biden allowed Anita Hill to be absolutely humilated by that whole process–it was like a rape trial pre rape shield laws. Women will not like that.

    The good is dramatically outweighed by the bad on this pick.

    November will be brutal for the dnc–GOOD!

    • http://IthinkIfeel... Pat Racimora

      HI–I wish I could do this kind of analysis–alas I was posting for our guest essayist, a top Democratic strategist who is using a pen name here. Maybe he will come in and comment…

  • Duras

    I have to agree with most of this analysis. I think that, at best, Biden was a neutral pick. It won’t help Obama in any significant way. As you say, it doesn’t strengthen his position in any particular state or region, Biden is prone to putting his foot in his mouth, and there are tons of past video clips of him doing so that the GOP can access as needed. Further, the fact that Obama made such a pick that runs directly counter to the message of “change” that’s gotten him this far shows me that his campaign is really sensitive to the “lack of experience” issue. Voters will pick up on that.

  • lightacandle

    I like Joe Biden and believe him to be a decent guy, but he is the OPPOSITE of everything Obama said mattered:

    — Biden is an OLD Washington hand … been there (in D.C) more years than John McCain has.

    — Biden voted “for” the AUMF resolution that Obama said was an indication of bad judgment.

    — Biden voted “for” the Patriot Act” and then later voted to “renew” the Patriot Act.

    — Biden is NOT an agent of “change” … Biden was chosen for his “experience,” which Obama has been disparaging as of NO value … “change” was all that mattered.

    I think the Obamatrons are going to have their hands full trying to explain away HOW IT CAN BE that Biden’s “yes” vote on the AUMF resolution isn’t evidence of bad judgment when Obama has been proclaiming for more than a year that Hillary’s “yes” vote was “proof” of bad judgment.

    The Obamazoids will also be busy explaining away Joe Biden’s NEGATIVE comments about Obama — and Obama’s negative comments about Washington OLD-timers and how dumb they all are and were to vote for the AUMF resolution and everything else that is wrong in Washington.

    Joe Biden has been a United States senator for ten more years than John McCain has.

    Talk about OLD Washington “insiders”!

    Biden’s been in the U.S. Senate since Nixon was President.

    And how to explain Biden’s ties to MBNA and the credit card companies?

    Joe Biden is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the financial services corporations … you have only to look at the home office address of many (if not most) of the credit card companies and investment corporations — it’s Delaware (Biden’s state).

    Obama is going to bring a “new kind of politics to Washington”? It looks like the same old, same old politics to me — and probably much worse since NO one dares to say a word, these days, against Obama for fear of being labeled a racist.

    Face it, Biden’s comment that Obama was “clean and articulate” ended Biden’s primary campaign for the presidency — Biden was deemed a racist by the Obamazoids. Whatever will the Obamazoids say about Biden now?

    Fasten your seat-belts, folks, and enjoy the ride.

  • Shefali

    I am a Libertarian who tends to vote conservative, and I never thought I would say this, but – I grew to respect Hillary due to her grace under pressure. I always thought Hillary was too far to the left for me to support her, but compared to Obama, she is a voice of moderation. Plus, the economy WAS good under Clinton. And Hillary was an important part of that administration.

    Several things led me to respect Hillary more – her toughness and general classiness despite the media fawning over Obama. When that 3 am ad hit, I realized, if we had to have a Dem President, I would much rather it be Hillary – because I could see her staring down dictators like Putin. She has a steely resolve. Plus her campaign was more classy.

    I was offended by Pfleger, who spoke at Obama’s church and who Obama is apparently friendly with. This guy, during a sermon at Obama’s church, made fun of Hillary in a really cruel way. I also didn’t like the Obama camp calling Bill Clinton a racist. There are lots of legitimate names you can call Bill Clinton – but he is not a racist.

    What can I say? I am hoping McCain wins the election, but I hope if he does he buys Hillary a drink after, and toasts her courage. She deserves some accolades as a worthy adversary. Obama is not one. Besides, if McCain wins, Hillary can run again in 2012, and I bet she would win. I bet if it was Hillary at the top of the ticket this time around, the polls would be quite different.

  • eddie

    Maybe Biden was Michelle’s pick, not Obambi’s.

  • eddie

    Maybe the financial services sector told Obambi who to pick.

  • Tristan

    This is a good article. No, I have no idea why Barry didn’t send out the text the second that the CNN report appeared.

    Also, I think that Biden was a bad choice because he’s in the wallet of the credit card companies.

    • tewuwei

      The text mesaages had to be sent out at 3 a.m., to get in yet another dig at Clinton Dems.

  • Tristan

    Oops, sorry, credit card companies was #10.

  • Heather

    Obama is going to hack voting machines. What’s being done to investigate and stop that?

  • Kelly

    The old dirty ways of Obama’s

    Stealing someone’s style doesn’t make her Jackie O.

    Just like stealing someone’s words doesn’t make him JFK.

    While that is lovely you consider her intelligent, strong, charismatic, beautiful, and fashionable. That is your opinion.

    I find her to be a mean woman who used her degree to help create the cruel America she complains about. She is a hypocrite.

    I say this because the intelligent, strong, charismatic, beautiful woman that is my mother repeatedly refused to use her degree to do such a thing.

    She turned down jobs at major defense contractors and an extra $50,000/yr on top of her normal salary in the 80s. Saying with disgust that she ‘didn’t want to help them kill brown people’.

    Michelle doubled her wage in order to continue helping a hospital deny care to AA and poor folks.

    While you think she is wonderful. Once again, I find her and her husband to be the exact probelm they complain about. They are what makes America cruel, because it is people like them who help to steal the taxpayer’s help to AAs and poor folks.

    So far Obama and his wife have helped to steal proper housing, schooling, and medical care from their community.

    There is nothing beautiful about them.

    The democratic trashed the party.

    McCain 08 for me now

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