This is about friendship

This ad will give Hillary an opportunity to swat it down in her speech. She will give an amazing speech and lay to rest any doubts that she gave it her all for the Democrats.

Sorry about your friend, Susan.

What a great point.

It is sure that she will focus her speech on selling Barack Obama not only to the American people but also to all of her devoted voters and her diehard supporters.

(That doesn’t mean, of course, that we have to go along. Just like Hillary, what we do when we vote is nobody’s business but ours. But, to protect HER political FUTURE, we need to keep the Democrats guessing. IF we come out and say we are voting for John McCain, it will only harm Hillary and her bright political future.)

Funny, you all decided to trash Ms. Murphy at the drop of a hat. You want to write about friendship? You want to write about behaving? Oi.

Chao, NQ.

Go Your Own Way . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onqZKKJhv1k
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Contact those supper delegates…that they (O’s) want to keep the ‘voters’ from. Tell ‘em that Hillary is winning and she isn’t even in the race! How is that for a fighter with her hands tied behind her back, but her message of ‘Serving the people of America’ is still resonating.

Hillary will always be America’s Champion and will continue to fight for its people where ever she is…she is a humble servant of her country…SHE IS THE REAL DEAL! SHE IS THE BEST CANDIDATE THAT JUST HAPPENS TO BE A WOMAN!

Hillary has to do what she has to do and so do I. Sorry Hillary you are wasting your breath on this old fart.

well I don’t know Hillary personally so I would never call her a friend

I have always thought she was the BEST politician around and we needed the BEST for these times!!

jmo but being the BEST POL includes being able to take it as well as give it. I think she can. I also think she’s probably still upset about Stephanie
and not too worried about the lone commercial using her own words.

She’s mui smart and I’m sure knows her words are fair game. Poor Barry is the one that can’t HANDLE the truth! lol

but you are so sweet to worry about her and I’m very sorry to read about your dear friend

I never trashed her

I still like her (she did frig up tho)

I just think she is a bit inexperienced or overwhelmed with the sudden stardom being a puma spokesperson requires

My sincere condolences on your friend’s passing Susan UnPC

The only one during the primaries that I saw condemning the attacks hurled against Hillary by the Øbama group was John McCain. I truly believe that they are very close friends and that this friendship is an honest one. This is why McCain stuck up for her back then and is doing so even now.

I’ll agree to disagree with you on your conclusions in regards to this ad.

Susan, I hope you are doing OK and I am so sorry for the loss of your friend. I already know that you know I am here for anything you need.

Now about that ad.

John McCain doesn’t have to bother making an ad to convince me that Obama is slime. I myself am voting for him because there is no way I am voting for Barack Obama and there is no way I am staying home on election day like Donna suggested I do. That leaves Ralph whom I think lost his mind long ago and that other guy, whats-his-name. I will not vote for either of them so it will be McCain. I am just not into fringe parties. I will vote for John McCain because as a minimum, I can trust him with my country and my life and that’s more than I can say for Obama. I do think the ad was over the line but not as much as I have seen Obama be over the line. He has insulted my intelligence and my gender in ways I haven’t seen in 30 years. To me, voting for him is NOT in my best interest or the best interest of any woman. My entire party organization, at this time, is not in my best interest. But I’ve seen this hijacking before and I already know the outcome.

I held my nose to vote for John Kerry four years ago. I’m not going to be the party’s lemming any longer. They have gone too far this time.

I understand enough about politics to know that Hillary will gracefully do what is necessary. I also plan to vote for her in 2012.

That’s what I’m doing, but the great thing about America is we get to vote for whomever we want to. And we get to NOT vote for people we object to. Democracy was hijacked by my party this year, but I still get another chance to tell them what I think and what I DON’T want.

Ciao, ea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4HrSQySus8

I’m sorry I don’t see it as a bad thing, Susan. I also think we need to keep in mind, we now truly owe BO nothing. He is not for the DNC, he is for himself. He has done everything he can do to humiliate Hillary Clinton besides drop trou and take a dump on her shoes. I certainly do not equate an ad that asks the obvious question 18 million voters are asking themselves as a bigger problem for Hillary this week. I think in its own way, it honors her campaign much more than “allowing” her a speech on Tuesday night, or “allowing” a roll call, and “allowing” her name to be entered into nomination. I hope to see the Democratic party rid itself of the trash they have running it now, but if this year is any indication of how the DNC intends to continue to identify themselves then I’ll become a Republican and be done withit. I am already voting for John Mccain in November and I will skip my ass into the polls at 6am to do it. I truly own my own vote, and I will never give it to Barack Obama regardless of what he says or does from here on. I say try winning an election without us DNC! You couldn’t win the last two with us, so you damned sure ain’t goin’ anywhere close to victory without us.

Good post, Susan. I agree that this ad does not help Hillary herself. When I saw it I was disappointed–I knew it was coming and was expecting something different–maybe more like a tribute.

I guess the Republicans wanted to appeal to us (Hillary supporters) and slap down Obama at the same time. Not a winning strategy at this point in time.

I disagree that this ad embarrasses or hurts Hillary. I think it is highly respectful of her and it emphasizes her honesty — something which is very important to McCain who belives in “straight talk”. The quotes he used from Hillary are quite mild when you consider that she and her husband were accused of racism during the primaries.

I’m sorry to say this because I like Hillary, and voted for her ,but she choose to back the party.

Yet I don’t see it as using her at all, I see it as a support because she was not allowed to fight back against the One, so he has to do it. As he defended her over the RFK flap: he certainly looked sincerely disgusted. In fact, so far I have had to wonder sometimes if Clinton and McCain are not agreed to double-team BO/BS whenever possible. She has helped McCain too.

This article is a whole bunch of nothing.

Politics is a dirty game and Hillary knows very well how it is played.

The fact is, the media and the Obamabots will blame Hillary for all of Bammy’s shortcomings no matter WHAT she says or does.

Nothing short of Hillary stepping in front of a bullet for Bammy would be good enough, and even then the O-bots would simply blame her for getting blood on his tie.

John McCain has every right and reason to use Hillary’s words, just as they have used Joe Biden and other Democrats’ words, against Obama…

Why? Because those words are TRUE.

Obama ISN’T ready, and he DIDN’T consider Hillary Clinton for his ticket out of spite.

Like the ad states, the truth hurts and Bammy doesn’t like it.

I suspect that Hillary new in advance of this add and gave it her blessing. It has 2012 written all over it. Hillary and Bill will outshine Hussein in the convention and it is not exactly what they will say that’s important, it’s the fact that their appearance will resonate for the next few years.

Susan, sorry for the loss of your friend

One more thing, when that curtain closes behind Hillary and then Bill who do you really think they’ll pull the lever for? Ask yourselves that question, If you were either one of them would you cast a vote for Barack Obama?

Good post…This ad is, I assume, a “two birds ad”, damages Obama and Clinton. The enemy of you enemy is not necessarly your friend. From my reading of many “Pro Hillary” blogs for many months, there are a lot of wing-nuts acting “Pro-Hill”, just to stir up sh*t. I have watch the wing-nuts attack the Clinton’s for twenty years and when Hillary “supporter” sound like Rush, they have no love for the Clinton’s. This is truly a revolting time in American Politics.

I meant ad, sorry.

Susan, I am very sorry to hear about your dear friend, and I hope that he rests in peace.

I think I see both sides of this ad. But I think it is truthful–unlike Barky’s adds–and asks the question that many of us have asked over the months. I think when the word gets out that Barky didn’t even consider her when he said he would, this ad will continue to speak volumes.

The effect of this ad will be seen in how barky responds–like a spoiled brat attacking clinton?

That said, I am very glad she is not his VP.

Contact your MSM to report on this story:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2065855/posts

Suit filed Thurs. in Fed. Court in Philadelphia – Obama constitutionally ineligible for presidency.

The lawyer (Philip Berg) who filed the suit said this in an interview Friday:

“Sen. Obama really owes it to everyone to confront this. He should threaten me. “Berg,” he should say, “here are the documents and, if you do not withdraw the suit, I will sue you.” Right now, he has no basis to sue me. If he does have the documents, he should show them, and I’ll walk away. I’ll withdraw the case. But, again, he must show me a certified vault copy of his birth certificate and must show me a certified copy of the oath of allegiance taken between the time he was 19 to 21 at a Consulate, U.S. Embassy or the like. If those documents can be presented, again, I’m out of here. But I don’t think he can, I don’t think he will, and I think it is a total disgrace on his part.”

But the Obama/campaign won’t believe they have to produce these documents unless MSM publicizes. Send this link to your local paper/TV and ask when they’ll be reporting it.

With this kind of info. finally seeing the light of day, it’s nothing about Hillary; it’s all about Obama – his cover-up — and the fact that the DNC hasn’t vetted him.

Donna Brazile was on the TV this morning I couldn’t believe the DNC still lets her appear in public.

Yeah – it comes down to 1) If I reward the thug immature sexist tactics that got Barky nominated, I will encourage somebody else to try it again and I will NOT do that and 2) I just don’t like Barky. I’ve spent the last eight years not liking Bush, and I am ready for someone likeable. Sorry, but McCain is likeable.

Bravo, I agree 100%

I am still amazed that in a year where the election should have been handed to us on a golden platter the DNC managed to screw it up!

I also could kick myself. Hillary was here in Boca Raton, Florida the other day and I didn’t know it. I would love to see her in person one day. It does grieve me though to see her stumping for BO.

Unfortunately what Clinton should and will do are two very different things. In the latter, she’s a loyal Democrat to a fault. She won’t cross the line to cost Obama the election even though she likely knows she and Bill will be blamed when he loses to McCain. As a good party member she’ll join the walk of lemmings off the cliff with the Dear Leader and sidekick Biden to defeat in November.

Now, what Clinton should do is very different. She should stand tall and say that she has always felt Obama, The One, was the wrong choice, and Not The One, for reasons she can list and everyone, especially here on NoQuarterUSA, know in excruciating detail. She should challenge the delegates to either march off to defeat as the party has done so many times or take a deep breath and reconsider. She should stand on her principles and convictions, letting the chips fall wherever they might. If her criticism of Obama were more than just politics over the past year and if she has any concern for the nation and party at stake, she can do no less. While she shows her loyalty to a party that disrespected her, she shortchanges her supporters and the nation if she helps the party to a defeat it deserves or, worse yet, helps elect Obama.

SusanUnPc, Sorry to hear of the loss of a good friend, please extend my condolences to his family.
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I look at this ad not trying to give Senator Clinton a bad time but it asking a very basic question. Why?

I have been doing the same thing. Why would Dems go to the extreme of freezing out a large part of the party?

Senator Clinton has stated she will be fine after this election. As you say, she will not go quetly into the night.

Where we part is on “following her lead”. Perhaps because I take your words to me a variant of “fall in line”…not sure if this what you meant and I don’t wish to misinterpet your meaning.

Senator Clinton will tow the party line to a point. If you mean follow her examples of guts, persistance, aspiring to be as well informed, then I agree.

She will be blamed for BO’s failure anyway you slice it. That is the world we live in. Those that step up and take responsibility are dumped on those that are incapable of real leadership.

I will ask myself, Why 18 million peices of shattered glass were swept aside, for a very long time. Ego is the answer at the moment but is too easy an anwser.

Thanks for all you do.

Strange post.

There is nothing wrong with the ad. It is factually true. Obama and his supporters cannot stand for the truth. I do not believe that it will hurt Hillary one bit.

Please get some new sound effects .. and I mean that in a productive suggestion!

I saw this ad this morning, it is a brilliant move on McCains behave , it speaks to the truth to how Hillary was treated and continues to be treated.

I understand your views but the ad said she spoke the truth and strange enough he never quoted any negative words. . all her supports can help he in one way do not vote for Barry , so thahe has a good chance for 2012

Susan I’m sorry for your loss. But I have to respectively disagree to a point. I do think the GOP should have waited till AFTER the convention. However this ad is TRUE. With all the outright lies this season, I’m all about truth! The backlash against anyone who speaks out against the “master” is also brutal. I like that ad call this to everyone’s attention. So ad good, timing bad.
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Susan, I’m sorry for your loss. But I have to respec

If I were Hillary I would not be upset by this ad at all. I’d be like, “yeah, McCain, stick it to that creep Obama!” She can’t put out an ad like this, but McCain can. I don’t feel it is exploitative at all.

It ALSO speaks to all of us Clinton supporters who are offended by Obama’s treatment of Hillary. At least the McCain camp GETS and understands us, while Obama and the DNC just wants to ignore us and pretend that “choice” will get us to vote Democrat.

I’m liking the McCain campaign more and more…

I am sorry for your loss Susan. I think you are a tender hearted bean.

Hillary is a very smart person, and she knew that this would be an ad. McCain is doing what he needs to do to beat Obama. Hillary would have done the same, if the roles were reversed.

McCain would be very smart to pick a woman to run for VP , Condi Rice?…we are ready for the next step in politics.

Lovely ad, I am so excited to see that McCain has more regrds for Hillary than the Dem party. And I do not think that it hurts or puts Hillary on the spot, I am sure she is happy that it came out.

I am begining to feel great about McCain’s chances of winning, and I will be more than happy to vote for him. I am truly enjoying the ads from the primary fight and Biden’s words are also going to harm Obama as well.

I am relieved that Hillary wasn’t tapped for VP, she doesn’t have to carry Obama’s water and anything that happens from now on cannot be blamed on her.

The Dem’s chose to turn their backs on the Clinton’s, and now they do not owe the party any help or assistance.

Obama is on his own, and I cannot wait for more Right-wing attacks on him!!

“You have no choice, if you’re pro-choice.” The irony.

revolting

You are right about revolting. Obama, Pelosi, Dean, Brazile, Soros, Biden and the rest of that gang.

What Dawnelle said.

It doesn’t really matter what Hillary or John McCain say or don’t say the Obamatons and the print and broadcast media will attack her relentlessly.

John McCain isn’t going to bring a butter knife to a gun fight, he will throw anything and everything at Obama including a kitchen sink. I would expect no less and I would expect Obama to give as good as he gets instead of whining.

In 2000 the Democrat party quit on Al gore after the SCOTUS stole florida. In 2004 John Kerry laid down and died in Ohio.

Obama whined all through the primaries because Hillary wouldn’t quit. We don’t like quitty whiners.

I feel McCain dosen’t want us who support her feel like we are wrong and that our feelings are just, our actions are correct and we have a newhome if we select to do so. I did not take offense I took it as a thank you for acknowledging the truth about BO.
McCain it will be for me… I wish it was a McCain /Clinton ticket!

Thank You SusanUnPc for this article. I agree with both you and SHV above.

I think the ad is necessary. John McCain has played this smart so far. He saw what happened to Hillary and anyone else who questioned Obama’s lack of experience and judgment. He’s doing it indirectly through surrogates in the Democratic party, it’s brilliant actually. As much as I admire and respect Mrs. Clinton I don’t think John McCain should hold back at all or worry about how the ad will affect her. The most important thing for McCain to do now is win and defeat the narcissist and hand the misogynistic DNC a huge defeat.

I don’t know that McCain created this ad or even knew about it before it aired. Maybe he did, and he still has the chance to pull it, but he didn’t. I think Hillary knows everything she says could come back to haunt her one day. It’s like that for any public figure.

I would be the last to denounce an ad like this. For one, I’m not falling behind Hillary and towing the lurve Obama party line. She IS. So either we don’t embarass her with demonstrations or blogging against the plastic messiah while calling ourselves Hillary supporters or we DO unite behind Barry so she can take credit. This ad is really no different than a PUMA group in Denver right now calling themselves Hill supporters and protesting against the DNC, the chosen one and the entire Dem establishment, which Hillary coinky dink IS a part of.

If McCain is hurting Hillary, then so are we.

Many things can be summized by this ad, but hurting Hillary is far from one of them!

Take into account what was said, Hillary and her 18 million voters were ignored by the DNP and the Selected One!

It has clearly stated what 18 million have said all along, Hillary Clinton is not part of the New (Ayers/Chicago Combine) Democratic Party.

This is a door opening to many worlds for Hillary Clinton, from being offered the VP for McCain (after all, Biden said he’d be honored to be McCain’s VP a few years ago) to taking back the DNP after Obama is wiped off the earth on Nov 4th.

McCain did Hillary a fovor in many ways, a marketing marvel for her and her voters/supporters and it is doubtful McCain did it blindly to Hillary, because one thing about McCain is he has respect for her, above politics.

If you think about it, McCain also opened the door for a new Democratic Party in 2012, one based on its original ideals and not one of the thuggery style exposed this year by the thugs of Chicago.

The likelihood of Hillary, who learned as we all did of Obama’s running mate being Joe Biden, someone of whom every single attack used by Obama in the Primaries against her could be used and enforced against Biden, is now a potential VP speaks volumes on a candicy that is so phony that the only money bill Obama resembles is that of a counterfit one!

Susan UnPC, My sincere condolences on your friend’s passing.

That said, I totally disagree with your opinion that John McCain exploited Hillary in any way to make this ad. He reminds us, and points out that Hillary was the qualified and experienced candidate and still is. I also beleive that she would approve this ad, since she has to be the obedient “little” party player, she has to support Barry. Hillary and Bill probably will give this one a thumbs up.

I think the ad is great, for both Mccain and Hillary..If the superdelgates wake up and do there job properly,and give Clinton the nomineeship,than Mccain,would probable pull the ad as it does show how honest Clinton really is towards this country.

I think John McCain knows damn well that Hillary wants to run in 2012. Hillary’s chances increase if McCain is the President. Hillary’s chances DECREASE if Obama is the president.

It is WAR with Obama. It will be a complete blood bath. McCain lost to Bush once, and OBAMA WILL BE THOROUGHLY EXPOSED. We, Republicans, will not take ANYTHING for granted.

We are rested, and we are eager to fight. We wait for the DNC to officially nominate the Obamanation.

Mark my words……it’s gonna get ugly. This is how we roll.

a Mcain presidency will truly reach across the aisle in the interests of what’s best for America! $e will reac out to Hillary right after the eleection for a working partner from the Democratic party and I am sure he will assemble a bipartisan cabinet that will get the job done.(excluding the Obommunist cabal that trashed Clinton and everything she stands for!) Clinton or Mcain ’08! Cinton 2012!!!

Our Speaker of the House reviels she has an investment in T.Boone Pickens company with alternatives to oil. She calls natural gas an alternative to “fossil fuels”. This idiot doesn’t even know Natural Gas is a fossil fuel and she stops drilling while promoting a company she has an investment in. What is wrong with this new Pelosi/Obama wing of the party?

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12764.html

Biden’s Son, Brother Named in 2 Lawsuits –

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/23/AR2008082302200.html?nav=rss_politics

and son is a lobbyist!

Obama bin Biden…..

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I rather like the ad. It’s truthful and straight forward. I respect both McCain and Hillary and I couldn’t be more disappointed with the outcome of this whole mess. I sincerely hope I will have the opportunity to vote for Sen. Clinton in the very near future. Since Hillary suspended her campaign it has been less and less about her and more and more about ending any possibility of BO reaching the WH. For me, that mission hasn’t changed regardless of pretend unity hoopla. I own my vote and there isn’t any way I will be joining this debacle and voting for BO come November.

Susan–I’m sorry about your loss.

I’ve always enjoyed your perspective and am usually 100% in agreement with you. Unfortunately, I can only agree with you in part on this article.

Hillary can stand the heat–and her words are not the only Presidential contenders that will be repeated in a GOP ad. Biden and many others have shown respect for McCain and I truly believe that he does respect her as well. What Hillary said, she meant while fighting for her rightful place as Dem nominee. She can no longer say what she thinks but has to support BO for her party. I’m sure she’ll give an awesome speech and endorsement but, really, she was robbed and everyone knows it.

Instead of looking at this ad as using Hillary before the DNC, is it possible that Hillary may walk out with the nomination at the end of the week? There is something strange about the timing of this particular ad–why not wait a week from now?

I have a lot of very conservative friends who have been won over by Hillary who despise the game that Obama is playing. They feel that Hillary should have run against McCain–no matter who the winner was, at least they would have some faith left in their government. I agree with them.

Hillary can stand proud and tall–she shined in the primaries and she warned her party. Now she must do what she must do for them. I must do what I must do for my country.

Yes, Kerry turned his back on Clinton and it got him defeat. Obama is doing the same thing, even if for different reasons, and it will likewise lead to defeat. Speaking for myself, while I do not agree with many of McCain’s positions and likely actions I trust him to act honorably and in the nation’s interests. Besides, there is a wimpy Democratic Congress that may offer balance. Barring a miracle this coming week, I’ll personally shift my focus to helping McCain win in November. Thereafter, I’ll wait and see what Clinton’s next move is. Should she remain in the Senate, as a NY resident I’ll vote for her upon her next reelection.

It is a sad day and a week that should have been different but Obama can have his 15-minutes for all the good it will do him.

I can’t imagine that Hillary would be more upset by this ad than by Obama’s 3 am text msg to tell the world that she is not his VP.

People should be focusing on that!

I don’t know why Hillary would continue after this week to stump for Obama considering that he insulted her this way. In addition, I think it is an insult to all of her supporters. Obama is thumbing his nose at us people, are we going to take it?

I think his insult should be a big talking point when talking to Hillary supporters who are now supporting Obama. That and the voter fraud/intimidation documentary.

in a year where the election should have been handed to us on a golden platter the DNC thought that we would take an unvetted Barry Soretoes because we were sick of eight years of George W. Bush.

What they didn’t count on was what they would have to DO to the qualified candidate to get the chosen candidate to the end line. It does not matter to me that it was a woman passed over for a minority candidate. Nor will I presume to understand what the hell they are thinking. What I have always been able to believe is that the Democratic candidate entered into nomination by my party was the BEST – for my party and my nation. Well. No more. I have had my blinders torn off my face and it is a new day. I will vote for qualifications and experience. At the top of the damn ticket, mind you! Not in the second spot!

I always enjoy your columns, susan, but disagree with you here.

Hillary’s political realities may require her to bend over at a convention where 18 million voters are about to be jobbed, but John McCain’s don’t.

Hillary doesn’t sound like the same candidate she was when she was winning primaries in June. She’s dropped the Rocky theme in favor of the unity meme. That’s life for a populist who is likely going to need supporters of Barack Obama to support her candidacy in 2012.

Hillary won’t stand up for herself or her supporters this week because its game over. But the next President of the United States, John McCain, can stand up and he did.

My initial reaction to Barry sending out his text around the 3AM time slot was disrespectful…seriously, why not around 2AM or wait until 4AM? McCain is playing the political game, and as one poster indicated weeks ago, it’s about winning.

I love Hillary, and I understand her reasoning for playing the good little Democrat. But at the same time, I am thinking she can’t overplay it either. The DNC kicked her to the curb and are still snickering. She’s in a tough position, and for that, I’ll cut her some slack. All I know is, I love my country and I will exercise the one thing I have that no one can take away and that’s my vote. Obama/Soetoro will never get my vote because of the way this whole game has played out. Calling the Clintons racists? C’mon now.

Sorry to hear about your friend, and thank you for sharing your thoughts on this matter. I can understand where you’re coming from.

I think we should be ready to point out instances of John McCain supporting Hillary during the primaries. That will shoot down any hint that McCain made the “Why Not Her” ad to garner points with the Hillary crowd.

PS Susan, sorry about your friend

My condolences on the loss of your friend, Susan.

The ad is a shrewd, political move by the McCain camp. Nothing more. Nothing less.

I guess I’m a wing-nut because I’m not particularly fond of the Clintons.

In an election season where the phrase “hope and change” has been repeated ad nauseum, Hillary Clinton stood up and sounded the alarm to Americans across this country. In doing so, she was “punished” by the Democratic Party.

Most of you are too close to this election cycle because you’re Hillary supporters.

From a different perspective, many Americans that are not Democrats will see this ad differently.

For Republicans, it highlights again why McCain is a “maverick”. He doesn’t care that his base doesn’t like the Clintons–he’s going to remain true to his friendships. Politics be damned in his opinion.

McCain truly likes Bill and Hillary and would have sent a message to at least Bill letting him know this was coming.

If it sets Hillary up for her convention speech, then so be it. John McCain isn’t going to worry about it. Instead of having to “fake” loving Obama, she can concentrate on highlighting her and the Democratic Party’s disagreements with John McCain. They may be friends, but they do disagree on various issues.

As I mentioned earlier, I’m not fond of the Clintons. However, I can put aside my feelings when it comes down to decency and doing the right thing.

The Obama supporters/campaign can say anything they want, but many Americans (myself included) believe Hillary was treated poorly. In a country where “racism” is yelled at every opportunity, it seems we have more work to do when it comes to sexism.

There are approximately 154 million American women compared to 149 million American men. It is dangerous for any man or political party to disrespect and ignore women especially when approximately 100 million of those women will be legally eligible to vote this November.

That being said NObama in NOvember.

As of today both of Larry Sinclair’s websites have been suspended. If anyone has any information on this, please respond here. It very likely had something to do with Sinclair’s connections to the Bidens regarding some legal actions the state of Delaware is trying to take against Sinclair. Sinclair has claimed all along the charges are bogus and politically motivated to protect Senator Obama. Perhaps his revelations about this turned up the heat too much. Let’s see how this unfolds.

Sorry for your loss of your friend, Susan.

When Hillary spoke these words she knew the Repubs.
would use them in ads for their campaign. She was
behind in the race and got the truth out for all to
hear especially in the last primary contests.Those primaries are when she roared. Her true self to the forefront and out there for all of us to see. We loved it! Republicans were rubbing their hands together to use that stuff. So what? She’s a big girl and knew what was up. Just like she does now. She spoke the truth and we know what she says now is all about being “loyal to the party”. As for the “friendship” I’m sure it will remain intact as most politicians’ friendships do. Both Hillary and McCain are grownups and hopefully their followers are too.

Obama’s 3 a.m. text message sure was an insult and goes to prove his high level of immaturity.

The timing of the ad is absolutely perfect–3 a.m. no less! It was very polite and deferential to Clinton. If Clinton gets trashed by the Dear Leader and his cult following this week, McCain is clear on where he stands and will welcome Clinton’s followers with open arms. This is the only time to run the ad, next week is too late.

If John Mccain is the only candidate that is going to be honest about what is going on this election cycle, I’m not going to criticize him for the courage of truth.

Barky was crass enough to put out his text message at 3 a.m. another attempt to stab Hillary in the back and twist it just right. So I will applaud Mccain for his honesty and his attempt to halt barky with the truth.

Susan, I offer my condolences for the loss of your friend.

I believe this ad does two things:

1) It is another example of how Obama was selected by the DNC and not chosen by the party in general (i.e., the primary was truly skewed to begin with).

2) I honestly believe, yes I’m a McCain supporter, that this was McCain’s way also of doing the one thing Hillary can’t do. He can try and tell America “Don’t you believe the things they’re making her say. We ALL know better. Hillary’s being a good soldier, as she should, but remember she told the country what was at stake but her party leaders didn’t listen. She can’t say these things now but I can. I will because yes, I need your vote, but I also will because she’s my friend and I’m royally pissed about the way they treated her.”

That’s just my opinion and that’s what I saw…

Take care,
Patrick

Yeah, I agree.

We sit out here and think that everything we see is exactly what happened. Nope, that’s our filter getting in the way.

I rather think that Hillary gave John her blessings on the ad. Come on. Everyone knows Obama must be stopped at any cost.

By the way, I have to disagree in the treatment of Darragh Murphy. She effed up but no need to add the dirty laundry on NQ. Decorum is needed in this heated week of anger, misplaced bravado, and emotions.

Professional up.

sorry about the loss of your friend Susan.i wish him Godspeed. i have a close family member who is ill and passing right now. it is a cause for great reflection.

as for the ad, i respectfully agree to disagree with you. though you may be right, i think McCain is speaking truth to lies right now. i for one will not be soon forgetting that Hillary was thrown under the bus many many times by both the obamacans and the DNC elites. this ad is tame compared to what they deserve, and i hope Sen McCain is up to the task.

i am relieved that Hillary will not be on the ticket with obama; he does not deserve her assistance to win POTUS. as we all know, that if oblamer does not win POTUS there will be a rush to place blame on Hillary. no matter what she does, she is still their whipping post.

her support behind him now will not be enough to convince me to trust him or the DNC. that ship has sailed. many folks feel as i do, with good cause.

it pains me that the msm will continue to feed off the the half truth that we are upset only that Hillary did not get the nomination( though she clearly won it )and not take the line of truth to it’s proper conclusion which is that obogus was selected by the dem elite, not truly elected by a democratic process. they will not expose this truth for further examination. they will however “spin” it seven different ways from sunday whenever it may raise it’s bleak and bulbous head . msm is now in the bag for obama potus, and i hope Sen McCain is ready for this one. i have a feeling he will be quite the fighter , and will not to have to be concerned,as Hillary was, about “damaging” the dem party chance at potus by calling obamacoup for what it is and who it’s manchurian is.

joe biden vp is a clearly anemic Hillary surrogate, and it will backfire on the DNC(who are the one’s who picked biden).

i’m voting McCain. i wash my hands of the current “democratic” party.
no matter how they plan on spinning it, corruption of Democracy such as we all witnessed this primary season, will not be overlooked or minimalized.

Sen Hillary Clinton can take whatever the obamacan coup can dish out. she has proven that beyond any doubts. her work right now for the dem party is impeccable, and will not be called into question by those who have eyes to see and ears to hear. personally, i wish for her to leave the democratic party and take on in 2012 whoever “wins” POTUS this year. believe me, there will be great need for her at that time. more than ever. over the next few years i feel that we will watch Hillary overshadow obama and expose the obvious just by being her absolutely more brilliant self. a woman to watch, for sure.

sorry this entry is so windy.

Condolences, but like many I do not see this as a bad thing for Hillary. It just makes a point that many of us know, that she with 18 million votes, was not considered and disrespected. Hillary , has been through tough times, but she has proven herself time and time again, to pick herself up with pride and carry on with the presistance and the conviction of what she stands and believes in.

We all know McCain and Hillary work well with each other, and we know that he admires her, more than what i can say about Obama and the Dnc. They voted for Obama not because he had a plan, because they did not want to support and recognize Hillary for the work she has succeeded at , to slap Hillary and Bill into reality, they may be popular and liked, but we own the show, meaning the DNC.

The DNC made a point not to stop the cruel treatment of sexism in this campaign, so I love Hillary, but we all know she deserved better, and she was the one who had the plan and the means of doing for the poeple. She was never considered for vp and we all knew it would not happen, why should we support a man with nothing but a written speech by someone else, he has no plans; We can see that he diched and down played Bills accomplishment and now he is going back to Bills terms to fix the economy, well sorry with all respect.Cannot and will not support Chicago politics, McCain is proven and he always chooses Country before Party.

The tide has turned and they now want to kiss Hills butt so she can sway us, does not matter if she gives a good speech it will never be enough. She will always be blamed for O’s failures,,, shes i cant believe that they have not blamed her for O’s friends lol,,

NObama.

Pumas Bite Obama: Video – Go Your Own Way

Have a nice convention Barry. Better add a few truck loads of catnip to the grocery list or you are gonna need a whole lot more tazers and cages in Denver.

http://patriotroom.com/?p=1358

Thanks for the “oposition” opinion.

I know a lot of people are saying that it sets Hillary up and she will mention the ad. I don’t see why, unless she wants to highlight the whole 3am thing. Then I see it as a good thing.

I do agree with you in that whether McCain made the ad out of friendship with Hillary or political gain, (probably both) what Obama did is a slap in the face to Hillary and all her voters. Thanks for pointing out that it is a also a slap in the face to all women.

It matters now what we women will do about it. Will we sit back and take it? Join the Lolita Brigade? Or draw the line here and now to not take this kind of crap anymore from anyone.

Obama is taunting women through the 3 am ad, Biden is taunting women by saying his wife’s PhD is a problem. What are YOU going to do about it???

I am with that totally val

MAC DADDY needs to do whatever he can to seal the deal, Obummer doesnt play ‘nice’ or with both hands tied behind his back the way the Totally in the tank Dems made Hill ‘play’..

Obummer totally dissed Hillary
he gave the ammo to MAC, let him use it, Hillary knows its hardball

I am sorry for your loss Susan, my condolences to the family also.

I agree, the timing was extremely suspect. I could not understand why LKL would run at midnight, virtually announcing the Biden selection and yet Barky waited another 3 hours before telling his followers.

Well, Barky got all those cell phone/pager numbers now–I hope they are all prepared for the numerous marching order messages that are sure to follow.

Hope and change? Syke. Barky and Biden will be OSlick and OSlippery

Read into the ad the one underlying message being given by the GOP, no stone towards Obama will be left unturned this election!

OBama’s people are already trying to squash the 527 attacks which is a joke considering the mastermind behind their invention in 2004 works for Obama’s campaign.

So McCain who will be underfire by Obama for a silly Keating 5 story from 20 years ago while Obama was becoming Ayers go boy and since has taken money from a jailed bagman for his own house and a McCain divorce that has become a dead issue will make the attacks on Obama and Biden the worst in American history, and it will be by using their own words and actions against them.

He’s probably in jail.

I think I read over there that he was facing court around this time in Aug.

Susan, I’m so sorry about your friend. My heart goes out to both you, as well as his family.

I think HRC can handle herself. She proved to be a STRONG PERSON and STILL IS! McCain may be partly capitalizing on this ad, but at the same time I believe he did nothing to offend HRC or compromise her position with the DNC.

He told the TRUTH, which is hard to come by these days…and the TRUTH HURTS, especially for OBAMA. The only thing that will give me close to as much pleasure as seeing HRC as POTUS, will be watching Obama slither his way back into the hole from witch he came out of! NO OBAMA/OBIDEN! YES McCain!

Obama/Biden have fully stocked the republican war arsenal.

Sorry for your loss, Susan.

I say this is just politics as usual. In the scheme of things it is pretty mild. Clinton has taken her own swipes at Obama and McCain. Considering what normally is said during races and the “coming together” afterwards by many candidates, I say business as usual.

Having stated that, look at what our own party has done to us. Weren’t we told that we would fall in line and if not, we weren’t needed anyway?

It didn’t take McCain’s ad to get me angry, the Democratic Party achieved that months ago. I left the party in June and became an Independent.

Many folks are looking over the fact that Hillary also lost two dear friends over the last couple of weeks.

You now see the media pushing the narrative that Hillary didn’t have her heart in it while Campaigning for Obama in Florida.

Cheap shots on Hillary whenever they can get it. It’s really shameful.

Great post Silver Fox!

I agree Jo. And I don’t see this as unfriendly to HRC. Quite the contrary.

I’m a patriot, not a BLT & terrorist supporter.

No, his court date in Delaware is not until 9-11 (notice the symbolism of the Bidens). This was originally a supposed felony, but since Sinclair knows it’s bogus he did not accept the plea offer down to a misdemeanor. This pissed off the Bidens even more, and now they really want to punish him. I’m glad he did not cave in. I’m glad he is forcing them to take him to trial, so that this farce of a prosecution will be known and carried around the world. This is bad stuff what is going on in Delaware. People ought to be up in arms over how Sinclair is being treated.

Mr. Mike — If Obama doesn’t give a damn about Hillary’s 18 million voters than McCain does. There is a collegial admosphere in the Senate that Obama was never part of. Of course they respect each other despite party affiliations–Obama showed from the moment he got to the Senate that this was a pit stop on the way to bigger and better things.

The ad works for me the same way the McCain ad about Biden worked. I cannot for the life of me understand Hillary standing up for a party who did everything it could to destroy her. I would have more respect for her if she changed parties the way I did. I say this as someone who volunteered for her, loved her and still do. The only way we can protect Hillary is to vote against Obama and that I will do. As for McCain he is going after her voters which are fair game because the idiot nominee of the Democratic Party won’t do what’s necessary to get us back.

Susan I am so sorry to hear about your friend. Please accept my condolences.

Yes, the media was/is shameful to Hillary.

and we should take note that cheap shots at her are continuing despite the plea for unity, despite her campaign suspension, and despite the fact that it insults millions more of her supporters!

With all due respect, sorry for your lost, please keep that private. Do not play politics with you person twist, stick to the real politics, the truth. Obama and MacCain are politicians. What have each of them done for their country?

If you want to vote for anyone please do so.

For me the country come first. With their records, Sen. John MacCaian is the one that will solve our problems, because he has the record. Sen. Hillary Clinton does too, but she is not on the ticket. The country come first for me. USA first, then DNC.

WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!?

Obama, Maccain, and our Sen. Hillary Clinton is a politician. I support her because I believe in her, and she knows what she is talking about so does Sen. John MacCain. We can spin it as much as we want, it will not change the facts. Democrate has the majority in both houses, what has they done? As democrates have we held them accountable?

Please stop the spin here!

Thanks to no QUARTERS for providing us with this forum.

MAC released this ad at, wait for it…3am

LOL!!!!

No, I think Susan is right on point. Rove’s protege’ is now running the Mac Campaign and it has his stamp all over it. On the surface it purports to be in defense of her historic candidacy. In reality it is an exploitation of Hillary and our gripe with the DNC.

We have to be diligent in sending a message to the Mac Campaign that we will not be tools for the republican party, nor will we be silent when they try to exploit our support of Hillary by shoving her in the face of the rabid Obamabots who are all too happy to say vicious things about her.

valsthewoman — well said.

I don’t think this ad is hurting Hillary too much. She has decided to support Sen. Obama now and I trust her judgment. There are so many things that we don’t know, facts *she* has to consider, weighing longterm effects for her, the party, the country, things she considers should have primacy. It’s her decision, whether I may like it or not. As I said, I trust her, that’s what trust is about, when I don’t know all the facts and still trust someone.

Each one of us can and will still vote according to our own judgement. That’s our right.

I am very greatful for the open disagreement of the many groups with the handling of the primaries by the DNC and the party leaders. It already has made a big impact and they will have to consider this, no matter the outcome of the convention. It is so important to have a clear stance on the issues that have raised there ugly heads. But it is equally important to stay firm, but graceful, clear, but polite, demonstrating our conviction. Are we not lucky to live in a place where we can show our disagreement openly? Isn’t it, hence, our responsibility to demonstrate? (even at the cost of being ridiculed and belittled by some)

This is how I hope the disgareement will be demonstrated in Denver, within and around the convention. It would be a sign of healthy democracy, wouldn’t it?

I should clarify, when I said:

“What are YOU going to do about it???”

I didn’t mean you personally RepublicanChick, it was for the readers.

Sorry

Good Luck Hillary!

Unfortunately no matter how moving your speech on Tuesday….No Way Obama EVER! Count me in with the 25%+ of HRC supporters switching to McCain…it is the ONLY WAY TO CAST A NEGATIVE VOTE AGAINST OBAMA.
Too much corruption, Too much negativity, Too much lies, Too much ANTI-patriotism, Too much questionable eligibility issues,… Too much inexperience,Too much Elitism, Too much HYPE!

I think the ad is fine and I have no problem with Campaign ads as long as they speak the truth. I have a great deal of respect for both Clintons, but as I am a person that puts Country before Party, I would prefer if Bill and Hillary would take a long vacation until the election is over rather than stand in front of crowds to tell us what a great person Barack Obama is.

And for Joe Biden and Hillary that praise for Obama is hypocrital praise and an insult to my intelligence. I lose faith that they are more concerned about our country than they are about a Party that has put power and corruption above the good of the United States.

Clearly I believe that good character still stands for something, that the company a person keeps tells me a lot about who that person is, and ignoring Obama’s lack of experience and qualifications to be President of the United States, his character does not meet my standards and I will not vote for him. Since the msm has failed to do it’s job, I hope McCain’s campaign does everything within it’s power to expose the real Barack Hussein Obama.

For me it is very obvious that the Republican party and the Obama campaign with the help of the leadership of Democratic party conspired to get Sen Clinton out of way.

With that in mind, I will never vote for Obama and a small chance that I will vote for McCain.

My loyalty is to this country and not to the Democratic party. I will vote for the best candidate regardless of age, sex or race. I believed that at this point and time Sen Clinton is the best person to lead the USA.

Sad to say, I blame Sen Clinton for NOT running as an Independent. She believes that Sen McCain is just an extension of Bush term. She also believes that Sen Obama is not qualified to be the commander in chief. She knows that she is the best qualified to be the commander in chief. Why doesn’t she run and aim for the win. We need her at a very critical time in the history of our country.

If there is one thing that the just concluded Olympics has shown is how BIG the heart of the athletes are. They persevered in spite of the insurmountable odds. The persevered with one thing in mind. How to win and win for their COUNTRY.

Maybe Sen Clinton should stop thinking in a box and learn from them. She should know that we owe our allegiance to the USA not the Democratic party.

You’re not a wing nut, RC. Clinton lied under oath.

Susan, please accept my heartfelt condolences for the loss of your friend.

CALIFORNIA VOTERS MARCH to COMMEMORATE THE 88th ANNIVERSARY OF WOMEN’S SUFFRAGE AND to CELEBRATE
the CANDIDACY OF SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON

SAN FRANCISCO, CA, August 20, 2008 – Political supporters and women’s rights advocates will gather in San Francisco on Tuesday August 26th to commemorate the anniversary of Women’s Voting Rights and celebrate the campaign of Senator Clinton. The March will begin at 5 p.m. in front of the Ferry Building and end with a rally at the UN Plaza.
The San Francisco event is one of several nationwide marches, sponsored by the 18 Million Voices / Rise Hillary Rise grassroots organization, to be held simultaneously with nineteen other cities around the country, and in conjunction with the main march at the Democratic Convention in Denver, Colorado.
The group hopes to unite those who campaigned and voted for Hillary Clinton in the primaries as well as men and women who want to advance women’s equality by building a new movement in support of women’s rights and gender equality.
Clinton ran an historical campaign that marked a milestone for women in politics. On June 7, 2008 Clinton suspended her campaign and remarked,
“In the future, it will be unremarkable for a woman to win primary state victories, unremarkable to have a woman in a close race to be our nominee, unremarkable to think that a woman can be the president of the United States. And that is truly remarkable.”
Mae Rose Tengsico, California State Organizer of the event, said, “We want to mark the 88th anniversary of women receiving the right to vote by honoring the milestone achievement of Hillary Clinton, who has gone further than any woman in campaigning for the Presidency.”
The marchers also want to point out that those who stooped to using sexism during the primary campaign have instigated a stronger and more united effort to end discrimination based on gender.
“We saw a great deal of misogyny directed at Hillary Clinton and her supporters by the media and others,” said Ms. Tengsico. “We want to make a statement that this has united women who want to work for changes in the political process. As Hillary said when she suspended her campaign: ‘There are no acceptable limits, and there are no acceptable prejudices in the 21st century.’”
ABOUT 18 MILLION VOICES / RISE HILLARY RISE
This nationwide march is sponsored by18 Million Voices / Rise Hillary
Rise, a true grassroots movement to celebrate Senator Clinton’s historic achievements,
and to advocate for Women’s Rights worldwide.

Wow, can we find something else to blame Hillary for.

“Democrate has the majority in both houses, what has they done?”

Exactly!!! AND Pelosi won’t go after Bush! that should be raising red flags all over the place for Democrats.

Susan,

The McCain ad was not meant to cast Hillary in any bad light, it showed what a chit Obambi really is. Most normal folks think Obambi is a low life scum for saying in the media that Hillary would be on any ones short list and then proceed NOT to even put her through the vetting process. It’s NOT an embarrassment to Hillary, it a clear indication of Obambi’s back stabbing low life lies. McCain has has his share of Bush low life back stabbing, so I’m sure McCain being a friend of Hillary knows full well how that feels, and as such he made sure others knew what Obambi did via his (McCains’s) ad.

I caught your meaning. No worries.

My level of sympathy as a woman stops at Michelle Obama. For her, I’d rather slap her and Oprah into the next solar system if given an opportunity.

They have done more harm in this election cycle and must be tremendously proud of their efforts.

The rest of us have been left with a bad taste in our mouth.

Dear Susan,

I didn’t realize until now that the writers at NQ were so close. I am glad they were there for you yesterday.
I believe you are identifying with Hillary right now because you and and she both have experienced the recent loss of a young friend.
With the convention looming, and you and she realizing that our dream is gone, it’s poignant as well as painful.
I will not watch the convention. I want no part of it. Maybe you should think about coyote Charlie and all the people who care about you whom you’ve yet to meet, and keep your TV turned off as well.
I will have that NQ meet up at my house some day. And we’ll arrange a convoy past the President’s house and wave hello to the secret service. You can lead.

Take care.

One lingering thought, in the 1990′s Hillary was told by the Chinese government to not speak out on womans issues and to refrain from causing problems for the governement of China. Hillary showed her strength and determination and did what was the right thing and spoke out anyhow.

That being said, will this woman who stood up to the communists in China back down against the corrupt powers of the DNP?

Susan:

deepest condolences for the loss of your friend.

Because Mccain and Hillary are good friends, and b/c I do respect Mccain.. I will be proudly be casting my vote for mccain.. I’m 30yrs old , if you had asked me last yr.. I would have said I would have voted for any dem, which I would have still even today… BUT NOT OBAMA!

Mccain, I trust, I respect, his wife will make a wonderful first lady!

I will never ever blame Hillary for spouting any unity crap.. she has to play this game.. I was glad to hear botox Pelosi finally say : “Hillary has been gracious.. but Hillary supporters have not been gracious”

I am willing to take the “blame”, as long as they see Hillary is doing what she is asked..

They don’t realise.. Hillary EARNED my one precious vote.. she does not OWN that vote.

I OWN my vote.. and it is going to Mccain this year!

The “Democratic” Party is dead to me this year!

Hillary has been doing more than anyone to support Obama, she compliments him and pushes for unity everywhere she goes, from fundraisers, to labor unions to reiterate her huge endorsement to Obama and personally ask others to please support Obama. Hillary’s message is clear.

No other candidate has so swiftly endorsed the other as Hillary has, usually the endorsement does not even come until the convention. Hillary has been helping Obama since June.

I know Hillary is having a rough last few weeks, from the murder of Bill Gwatney, to Stephanie Tubbs Jones’ passing, plus trying hard to unify the party, and she needs to concentrate on her upcoming speech, etc.

The truth is though, Hillary Clinton has am army of friends and family who adore her and support her, more than we can relate to, and she has 18 million Americans who voted for her. Hillary is different than us, politics is her much of her life, and she has a powerful ability to overcome adversity and to make pragmatic decisions. Hillary is strong and brilliant and she’s ok.

Hillary has done her part to unify the party, and she will likely continue to do so in a big way.

Unfortunately, it is Obama who is incapable of unifying the party, and it is HIS role since it is our votes he wishes to have….but he doesn’t understand that these votes need to be earned, and constant slights to Hillary is highly incendiary (like the 3 am text message), for this: Obama deserves to lose because he just doesn’t get it.

He chose Biden: 9,500 votes for President, when Hillary won 18 MILLION votes for President. Obama’s judgement is shockingly poor, and obviously he thinks he can win without Hillary’s voters. We all know what would have truly unified the party, and Obama made the biggest mistake of his career yesterday.

Hillary protestors in Denver will be peaceful and they do not have any sort of reputation like the re-create 68 folks, the anarchists, and anti-war / hard-core environmentalists. Protesting in at conventions is a long tradition, so it’s expected.

Everything will work out…

Susan, I am so sorry for your loss. 43 years old is shockingly young to pass away–just tragic, please rely on your friends and family if you feel sad or stressed. I’ll be thinking of you.

bee bop — I just watched all for parts of We Will Not Be Silenced and if he can use tactics like he did to gain an advantage than anything McCain does is ok with me.

Obama will not use Democratic volunteers to get the vote out. He is going with a private company given to him by Pelosi. He will be hiring 160,000 people. They will be very aggressive about getting his people out. Look for more problems on election day. Obama is getting uglier by the day.

As long as the MSM continues to label the dissenters within our party as “Clinton supporters,” they continue to blame all the woes of the Democratic Party on Hillary. This is another back-handed slap against her.

Initially, we WERE Clinton supporters. When the primary season ended, hundreds of grassroots groups formed because we were so disgusted with the backroom tactics used to select, not elect, Obama. And, we took action to influence the delegates and SDs that they still had the opportunity to nominate the most qualified candidate at the convention. But, the “fix” was in and apparently nothing we do or say will convince our congressional representatives that they should honor our votes by nominating the candidate the majority of Americans voted for, even though it is their DUTY to do so.

It is time for us to redefine ourselves. Let’s stop letting the MSM blame Hillary for what Dean, Pelosi, Reid, Brazil and Obama have done to our party. We’re not Clinton supporters; we’re Democrats who are mad as hell. We’re Democrats who put country first and party second.

But we must stop being labeled “Clinton supporters”. It’s trully an injustice to her.

Hillary is damned if she does, damned if she doesn’t–by Team Obama.

If her speech is an exhortative power house, they’ll whine that she stole the limelight.

If it is gentle and thoughtful, they’ll sob and say she didn’t tout that idiot empty suit strongly enough.

They’ll accuse her of being in league with McCain, no matter what.

They don’t need facts. They don’t need evidence.

They make shit up. They hector, and whine, and BULLY.

It’s what they do.

Hillary can say anything and everything, and while I’ll still vote for her if I get the chance–I have no intention of listening to a sales talk about that stupid jerk with the gossamer-thin resume who has had no substantial political experience. A half term in the senate (not even THERE half the time) and a part-time job voting PRESENT in a crummy state legislature do NOT a President make.

NO SALE.

NO WAY.

And too fucking bad if the crying cultists don’t like it.

Hillary is damned if she does, damned if she doesn’t–by Team Obama.

If her speech is an exhortative power house, they’ll whine that she stole the limelight.

If it is gentle and thoughtful, they’ll sob and say she didn’t tout that idiot empty suit strongly enough.

They’ll accuse her of being in league with McCain, no matter what.

They don’t need facts. They don’t need evidence.

They make shit up. They hector, and whine, and BULLY.

It’s what they do.

Hillary can say anything and everything, and while I’ll still vote for her if I get the chance–I have no intention of listening to a sales talk about that stupid jerk with the gossamer-thin resume who has had no substantial political experience. A half term in the senate (not even THERE half the time) and a part-time job voting PRESENT in a crummy state legislature do NOT a President make.

NO SALE.

NO WAY.

And too fucking bad if the crying cultists don’t like it.

I read somewhere that Obama hasn’t made himself available to the press for weeks before the VP announcement.

I think Hillary should follow his lead. She doesn’t have to take questions from the press.She can pour all of her energy in to her convention speech and hopefully that will stop the critics who say she’s holding back.

Joe Biden, on the other hand, might have to explain why he didn’t think Obama was ready to be President and why he said he would have been honored to run with John McCain.

The Philadelphia Daily News and the Cleveland Leader have mentioned the lawsuit. Fox News doesn’t want to report on it unless other MSM outlets pick it up. The judge denied the temporary restraining order but is keeping the case open until all parties are served, and he promised Berg to expedite the case according to an interview on americasright.com.

“It does not matter to me that it was a woman passed over for a minority candidate.”

Nor to me. I was counting on an FDR miracle (by Hillary) and cannot accept an inept Obama.

Please Jo, Hillary Clinton is a United States Senator from the great Blue state of New York.
Don’t talk about her “bending over” at the convention. She’s conducted herself with dignity throughout this ugly campaign and she is a heroine to many of us.
No vulgar sexual references please.

Susan,

First I want to offer my deepest condolences for loss of your friend, and also to this family who must be reeling in shock at the demise of someone still so young. My heart and prayers are with you.

AF Catfish brough out one point above. I do understand where you are emotionally, and hope you are open to other perspectives.

I see a Hillary who started to grow and reach maturity in NH. Now at this time she has acquired a boudless ancient wisdom, and will do what she needs to do with the utmost grace and panache.

As to the AD, I believe it is actually a brillaint move by her friend John McCain. The last words are “And John did not like it” – meaning the way Hillary has been treated. It is also a very PUBLIC way to have the very greedy SD’s re-think their lust for cash and do what is right for the country. Hopefully, the SD’s are able to get the message.

John McCain, given his background, is a warrior first, then a stateman. He understands that there is a real value wars, of what we are and will become as a country and people, going on now.

When in battle it is best to let the “leader” (Hillary) do what she feels best to do. It is a time for those of us who have come to truly love and admire her to hold our own feelings in check, and give Hillary the space she needs, without the extra baggage of our emotions. As warriors for Hillary, we must be physically and emotionally ready to do battle with those in our own party who betrayed us. This means we delay, for now, our own strong feelings, and act as the best trained of armies.

I for one do not believe Hillary ever wanted, or will want, a position anywhere near an Obama fiasco. I do not believe the “Atlantic” publishing those so called internal memo’s was no accidient. Hillary needs to remain the clean, strong, and bright a beacon as she is today, unsullied by the filth and criminality of Obama and his chorts.

Joe Biden has a borderline plus/minus record. He also was instrumental in allowing that 48 BILLION dollar “Global Povery” bill through as payback to Kofi Annan for “negotiating” Obama’s cousin Raila the Prime Minister of Kenya position, instead of taking the high road in recovering America’s image and putting that Bucher, and Murderer in a cell in the Hague. So Joe shoots himslef in the foot. Fine, One less that we have to worry about.

Hillary is not alone in Denver. There is Lady Forrester de Rothschidl, Ricki Liberman, Lynette Long, Paula Ables, Darragh Murphy, and many more of her compatriots.

Hillary must, for now, be the best actress ever, while concelaing her own thoughts. Additionally she has to keep control of a VERY angry LION, named Bill, who must be kept content on his short leash. Otherwise, it is most likely his own strong feelings, and former position as C in C, will kick into play and truly wreck what remains of the “faux” leadership in the party.

Hillary, more so than the rest of us, has suffered 3 grave losses this week: Bill Gwatney from AR, Stephanie Tubb Jones, and Diane Feinstein’s injury. The best we can do for Hillary right now is to trust her judgement, sit back and be keenly aware of all the nuanced plays and be ready to “move out”, when events and signals align.

So for now it is war, and we are the soldiers. Hillary trusts our judgment enough to let us have a long rope. Let’s not handicap Hillary with “squishy” emotion right now. Let’s all of us be prepared to do what is necessary to “retire” the betrayers.

On Friday afternoon, I went with some friends to a restaurant at the “circle” that is the gateway to Cape Cod. Our purpose was to get the small local papers from Plymouth County and “read the mood”. We also, with great happiness saw only ONE Kerry for Senate bumprer sticker on the thousands of cars driving past on the way for a weekend at Cape Cod.

Myself, and two others will be writing LTE’s to all the regional and local papers, giving them the facts on those running for Massachusetts and NH offices. A small enough act, but buckets of water fill one drop at a time.

If all of us, one at a time, start workinng against those so called “Dems” who have betrayed Hillary and the 18 million voters. We can be moving toward cleaning up the Bambi mess. It will take awhile, and we will have time during this, to grieve and sort out our feelings, while still being effective.

I heard that if McCain maintains even a sliver of Hillary’s supporters, he has a good chance of winning. That is certainly why he put up the ad but I also feel that it is accurate, so why not?

All that Hillary has to do is dismiss it as “politics” and leave it at that. I see it as a welcome antidote to all of the phony “we are united” declarations. Methinks they doth protest too much.

To me this ad attacks Obama’s stupidity. You mean you overlooked a candidate with 18,000,000 voters to go for another who received 9,000 votes. They don’t come dumber or meaner than Obama.

I’m not giving up on Hillary just yet!
But we HAVE to smack the DNC upside their stupid little heads for thinking we would do as they say. NOT ! It’s Hillary or McCain? Up to you DNC?

Look, whatever she does, Sen Clinton will be blamed by the Obama campaign and the media.

Obama doesn’t talk to the media because he is scared to answer questions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=%20D4X7ehB9kN0&fmt=18

barb — now that the press is asking real questions Obama is no longer interested in meeting with them. That 3 am scam with regard to his VP nominee will come back to haunt him. The media is getting tired of being used by this fraud. Yes even media whores get tired of being used–go figure.

amen to that!! Hillary has been treated like shit all the way around.

Sorry about your friend Susan. I’m sure you and he were more loyal to each other than politicians typically are.

We saw many of Hillary’s supposed allies and friends stab her in the back to get behind Obama who is not only not a good candidate for President, he is not even a person of worthy character and integrity.

Yes, the 3 a.m. stunt was not only offensive but stupid and self-destructive indicating that the Obama’s have no use for Hillary supporters and that they only pay us lip service in order to get our vote.

I liked the ad myself. One thing I did notice though is I thought the ad took the most innocuous and brief snippets of Clinton. Heaven knows they could easily have taken longer bits or even more controversial ones.

Given that the snippets are so generalized and short, I think there was a concerted effort not to embarrass HRC or maker her look bad but only include the most general statements.

I thought it was generally respectful of her.

We should plan a huge email attack on McCain – telling him to pick Hillary. That would be a handsdown win. Obama could just pack his shit -Biden, Michelle, Wright, Rezko, etc. and go home.

I have NO problem voting for John McCain. I will NEVER vote for Obama. And I am a registered Dem.

I am glad that someone, particularly a lawyer with some good credentials, is pursuing this. It is good that he is saying he will withdraw immediately if Obama can produce the requested documents. What is so hard about doing that??? Obama should be expected to do so.

Does anyone know just WHO would be the person to request/receive that sort of documentation when someone wants to announce their candidacy for president? Who would that be? And ask them if the documents were presented by Obama.

I for one will send this link to the newspapers in my area.

Liz…I agreed…this is beyond Senator Clinton. This is for our country. Hillary is the better candidate. Yet, I say let it all hang out. I tired of people making excuses for Soetoro. Its time that the public see Obama for what he is. A corrupt unAmerican party hack. He and his followers need to be exposed. Yes, we back Clinton-but this is an American grassroots movement. We, the people need to expose Soetoro, because the MSM isn’t goiing to do it, the Dem isn’t going to do it, Damn with party rules.

Liz…I agreed…this is beyond Senator Clinton. This is for our country. Hillary is the better candidate. Yet, I say let it all hang out. I tired of people making excuses for Soetoro. Its time that the public see Obama for what he is. A corrupt unAmerican party hack. He and his followers need to be exposed. Yes, we back Clinton-but this is an American grassroots movement. We, the people need to expose Soetoro, because the MSM isn’t goiing to do it, the Dem party isn’t going to do it, Damn the party rules.

The McCain camp paid attention to obamas use of Alinsky methods. Exploit the discontent, rub the wounds raw, etc..
Good for McCain and keep it up. He has my vote.

“Hillary is damned if she does, damned if she doesn’t–by Team Obama.”

I agree with Clinton Fan.

Then Hillary should just do what she thinks is good for the country not party.

People keep saying that if she runs, the Democratic party will surely lose. Is that engraved in stone? People are not happy with the Republicans. They also are having second thoughts with Obama.

Why not run as Independent and may the best woman wins.

My brother,55, met her in New Hampshire and said she’s gorgeous and has a handshake that near broke his hand. He couldn’t stop talking about her.

Larry Sinclair’s site shut down again! Now if all this wasn’t true why would they work so hard to keep him off the internet?? Wouldn’t they call him out???

This is what I read on another site!:
Just a note that the Obama Internet Scrub team has, within the last 30 minutes, had StartLogic “suspend” both of Sinclair’s blog sites. If this is an example of what lies in store for our Constitutional rights, may God help us all.

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/

Susan,

May your friend rest his weary feet on his new path. And may the hurt you feel ar this loss, lessen with time.

Take Care!

“Is this the act of a friend? Or the act of someone who is using a highly sensitive time for Hillary Clinton in order to score a political point?”
Maybe a little bit of both? The second question is obviously true. Of course he’s doing it to score a political point. On the other hand, the ad is saying exactly what many of us are saying, and Hillary probably wishes she could say. So maybe John McCain’s a little pissed at the treatment that his friend has received at the hands of the media and the Democratic party, even though he would have done the same thing or worse if she had been the nominee. What strikes me as funny is that the media’s attention is all still focused squarely on the Clinton’s, even after Obama named Biden as his VP pick. CNN and Fox speculating continuously about what Bill, Hillary and Chelsea might or might not do or say next week. They mention Biden as an afterthought.

“We should plan a huge email attack on McCain – telling him to pick Hillary. That would be a handsdown win. Obama could just pack his shit -Biden, Michelle, Wright, Rezko, etc. and go home.”

McCain and Clinton running on the same ticket means that they both should throw away their party’s ideology and run JUST FOR THE SAKE OF THE COUNTRY. That means both of them will be centrists and agree to meet halfway on issues.

I PRAY THAT HAPPENS BECAUSE THAT IS THE BEST THING THAT CAN EVER HAPPEN TO OUR COUNTRY.

Maybe writing this post is proof positive of the reason why you shouldn’t make important decisions after a tragic loss.

and her friends are fortunate to share such devotion.

Listen….This is a grass roots movement. The move against Soetoro/Obama is just not Clinton supporters. I say DAmn the Covention and the charlatan unity aspect. Clinton delegates, speak out, protest. The MSM isn’t going to expose Soetoro, the Dem party isn’t going to do it! We, the people will expose the fraud and our party. LET IT ALL HANG OUT! I’m tired of lets be on our best behavior-that never got anybody, anywhere. The people of America have to see it for themselves, protest, march, make noise. The Dem party will be exposed.

Susan,

May your friend rest in peace.

take care

Dawnelle,
I agree with your post. I think she’s probably expecting McCain to use whatever he can to win this election. I also don’t believe she really wants Barry to win – in her heart – and maybe it’s consoling to her for her supporters to carry out her work. Certainly we don’t need to be insulting and rude and behave with decorum. I agree Hillary is still smarting from the loss of Stephanie who was such a loyal supporter and friend. I think she’ll be braced for whatever happens, and Bill will be with her.
Susan I’m sorry about your friend. It’s always hard to lose those we love.

I am with Steve. Let’s do something. Let’s kick some ASS!!! They have been strong arming us for over a year. Our boy is an officer in the Marines. Third term in IRaq. He says NO OBAMA. He told us to cross party lines and vote for McCain if Hillary isn’t the nominee.

The ad doesn’t bother me because it is absolutely true.
Biden’s a nice enough fellow, but Clinton would have been amazing.
His not using her is proof that Obama is nothing more than a scared, vincictive little man.
That being said, I am happy she is independent of Senator Evil.

The ad doesn’t bother me because it is absolutely true.
Biden’s a nice enough fellow, but Clinton would have been amazing.
His not using her is proof that Obama is nothing more than a scared, vindictive little man.
That being said, I am happy she is independent of Senator Evil.

Mr. Berg has posted copies of his lawsuit and supporting documents at http://www.obamacrimes.com.

I agree with your comment Susan.

My condolences on the loss of your friend-and my condolences to his family…43 years old is VERY young…

May your moments shared together and memories of love & friendship help to sustain you during this difficult time.

Valsthewoman-
Interesting …very interesting…
I agree .

To put it mildly.

“His smile doesn’t reach his eyes”.

Valsthewoman-
My apolgies-
Clarification:
I agree with a McCain/Clinton ticket.

I agree with Val, Jo, and Buzz. We need to insure Obama loses. I also liked the ad and saw a tribute to Hillary in it. And it was great seeing and hearing her again…

Faith, I too have conservative acquaintances who look at Hillary in a new light following this primary season. They still would never vote for her, but should she win, they would not be panicked at the thought of her as president.

I agree.

Susan…Sorry about the loss of such a great friend…and my condolences to all his friends and family.

Oh shut up, Johnin. You get up in public and tell every one you cheated on your wife with your daughter listening.
There are some questions that shouldn’t be asked, and our President SHOULD NOT have been under oath for such a petty partisan thing.
No Clinton bashing here.

I so agree,IndyPuma. That meme being repeated by the
MSM that she “didn’t do enough” at her Florida ap-
pearance is maddening. She had to be hurting over
the loss of Rep.Tubbs Jones.
The ad points to the “truths” that Hillary served up
during her campaign. She provided “bounty” from which we could become informed and educated. Yet, OB
chose, Biden. Who, I just heard on FoxNews, the
McCain campaign, “breathed a sigh of releif that it
wasn’t Clinton. She would have been the most formi-
dable!”
She is the BEST! Hillary will do what she needs to.

HILLARY 2012

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are both democrats, sharing polices, positions, and to a large extent the same voting history. They were opponents in a heated contest, but once the contest was over they went back to being democrats and allies. Now they’re focusing on their common democratic objectives, and opposing an unchanged republican agenda that is simply being handed off from George W. Bush to John McCain.

You’re surprised by exploitation of Hillary Clinton by the McCain camp? By their deliberate misrepresentations? Why? That’s the same approach they’ve been taking for weeks now. The only difference is that Senator Clinton is getting a dose of their disrespect.

Here’s what Bill Kristol had to say about Hillary Clinton and her 18 million supporters during a February 3rd Fox News Sunday discussion:

“Look, the only people for Hillary Clinton are the Democratic establishment and white women. The Democratic establishment — it would be crazy for the Democratic Party to follow an establishment that’s led it to defeat year after year. White women are a problem, that’s, you know — we all live with that.”

You were expecting respect from these people?

Maybe Jo meant bending over backwards to help,

And to trust them is dangerous.

What does how she looks and her handshake have to do with her ability to be POTUS?

i was brought up in a dem family but me and my family will vote for mccain this time around…country means more to us than party…no matter how bad mccain could be we think hussein would be a disaster for certain…we like our guns and bibles and our God has no substitute…..

As Hillary said, politics is a contact sport, so I won’t feel sorry for Hillary because I know she understands and would not think twice about it.

In fact, I think the ad is good for Hillary and her supporters: reminding all of us that Hillary spoke her mind even though the MSM was against her.

One thing we all like about Hillary is that she can take care of herself: she is tough and the primaries toughened her even more. She will be ready in 2012.

Susan,
My condolences to you and the family of your friend.
I did not wish to mix poltics and these heartfelt
expressions. Loss is never easy. Your memories will
keep your friend near.

WRY,
I am from NY and we are painting it RED this year.

McCain 08

I too think Hillary gave John McCain her blessing on the add. She is not the same Hillary as before.

Hillary 2012

I think you are kidding yourself about the friendship purpose of the ad. William Kristol did the same thing in his column. He is no friend of Hillary.

Susan is right. McCain is exploiting Hillary for the potential of bringing in some of her voters. I don’t like Obama and won’t vote for him, but the idea that the GOP is suddenly so concerned about Hillary, after what they put her through the past 20 years is just stupid. This is a GOP wide strategy to capitalize on Hillary voters that are disappointed in the primary. Those who think McCain is making a “friendship” ad need to wake up and realize what is at stake here.

I do disagree with you. Every time I see that ad I realized more painfully, that she was right and we are heading into a disaster for this country if Obama is elected.

This ad actually HELPS Hillary…it does not “exploite” her or disrespect her. John McCain is the ONLY ONE who can speak out now on Hillary’s DEEPEST feelings…she CANNOT do it herself during this convention and campaign unless she commits political suicide.

Give McCain a break on this one. He could have done MUCH WORSE, and by doing what he did he gets her “message” out there while she is able to stay “politically” on key.

Look at this as as the gift it is.

Are you kidding??? Bill and Hillary were probably high-fiving over the McCain 3:00 a.m. commercial. Do you really think they want Obama to win?

If Hillary is to win in 2012, Obama can’t win in 2008.

wry, I care less about Bill’s sexual affairs. I do care however about his lying under oath.

Comment by Nellie | 2008-08-24 13:52:17

Wow, great post. My sentiments exactly.

I’ve been seeing hhow selfish and puped up Hillary’s “supporters” have become, questioning her loyalty and all. Forgetting completely about Stephanie Tubb-Jones and what she meant to Hill.

Also thanks for the perspective on Bill and how he must be feelng right now. He was also close to those loved ones lost, and I bet he’s still steemed at not being allolwed to defend his daughter against the nasty attacks about being “pimped” by her mother.

But Hillary is just doing what she promised by supporting Obama, and many seem to forget that.

I am happy that Mccain brought it out in the open. If it wasn’t him- who would have shown respect? No-one. Just a bunch of liberal media talking and laughing at her. Good for you, Mccain. Obama called her “friend” and betrayed her for 30 pieces of gold and delivered her into the hands of her liberal tormentors. In spite of his treachery some of you still would vote for this deceitful man. Perhaps now Mrs. Clinton will stop “praising him” and insisting for us to vote for him. The more she ask, the more I resist. Not the earthshaking orator voice of unity will make my family change their minds- not even Hillary’s. A word of advise to Mrs. Clinton- how much punishment and embarrassment are you willing to take for thise corrupted party. Pick up your pride and put a I in front of your chest for the good of the american people. This will be the biggest slap you can deliver to Chris Matthew and Keith.!

How is this embarrassing to Hillary? It’s the truth she spoke and all people who have good sense will admire her more on seeing this, except the BO fans, of course. All she has to say to the media is that she supports the decision of her party (current warts and all). Even without this commercial reminder by JC, we all know she thinks BO is inexperienced and unqualified no matter what the party forces her to say

Obama picking Biden is typical for Barry. This was his safe pick. It was his “present” vote that he always did in the Illinois Senate. Never courageous, always a compromise. Especially when a compromise was not needed or wanted. Like Obama tacking so swiftly to the right when the mood of the country is progressive. obama and biden deserve each other. Corporatism LIVES!

Aw, come on! Why would McCain be Hillary’s friend? he is a politician – like all of them are.

Being a better politician than Obama, he is courting Hillary’s supporters’ votes. That’s why he made the ad. To convince us to vote for him.
If only B0 wold come down from his pedestal to deign to ask us for our vote! Instead, he does 3 AM texting.
McCain wanted to compare himself to Obama. Which would you rather have: the offender or the defender?
I an still hoping superdelegates do their job in Denver. But failing that, my choice is only mad easier.

Are you kidding me? He is doing Hillary a favor in this ad by doing what she wants to do but cannot.

Anything that gets McCain elected is a sign of respect for Hillary. I doubt she is feeling distressed about it at all. In fact, she and Bill are probably doing a high five over it.

Those PUMAs and Democratic voters that are going to vote for McCain were going to do so before this Ad came out. They obviously weighed their options and chose not to vote for Barack Obama.

The common goal for most Republicans and PUMA is to ensure Barack Obama doesn’t become President. If it is an election cycle of strange bedfellows, we can all thank Obama for the display of unity among many voting blocs in this country.

William Kristol isn’t my cup of tea to begin with, but again no one knows what is going on behind the scenes of these campaigns. The likelihood that McCain reaches out to Hillary is a lot more believable than Obama reaching out to her.

Hell, she’s campaigned for Obama more than he’s done for himself. If the ad bothers her, she’ll ask for it to be removed.

Yes, the whole 3am aspect really blew me away. I was up late that nite, mostly on nq, but was scanning fluffpo’s biden vp post at that time, and all of sudden, people started commenting that they had gotten their text from Obama! How else could this lame stunt possibly be taken except as a slap to Hillary (& to us)? The story had already broken 3 hours earlier. I think the point of big mac’s ad was to teach the young bully Obama a lesson. And maybe to send us a message as well. Anyway, I liked the ad, & thought it was quite restrained actually. They have so much nastier stuff to work with, they could’ve come up with an ad that was a lot more jarring.

Susan – I am so sorry to hear of your loss. You work so hard for all of us, I wish there was something I could do for you. You & your friends will be in my thoughts & prayers…I know it is so hard to handle the pain when a young person dies. Hugs.

Calga4Hillary – I agree so much with your comment. At this point it is not about Hillary. Never was really. It is about Obama. I supported Hillary because I could not support Obama on Super Tuesday when I got to vote. At the time I thought I might be able to support Obama if Hillary lost. But as the campaign unfolded and as I saw and learned more about Obama and how he stole votes and used strong armed tactics in the caucuses it became more about never letting this man become POTUS. He is not qualified to be POTUS.

I like McCain’s ad. I think it says a lot to many folks whether they are Hillary supporters or not. Many of the folks I know and work with understand what happened to Hillary and think it is wrong and crazy. And this from Republicans too. I think McCain’s ad simply acknowledges that and is really more an attack on Obama and the DNC. That ad alone cannot hurt Hillary.

Yet I also agree with Susan that we, and especially Hillary supporters in Denver this week have to walk a very fine line and not hurt Hillary with their actions and comments and what I hope will be a run in 2012. And we need to begin preparations now to ensure a fair and legal process next time.

ha ha ha. When ‘THEONE’ is losing obots resort to blaming bill or hillary.

Obama has lied about his whole life–under oath. Take that one and swallow it whole.

haha! So true!

So sorry about your loss Susan.

The ad, well it think more will approve then disapprove of this ad. But you expect this from Republicans so it’s not surprising . I have mixed feelings about it and I won’t watch TV now so haven’t actually seen it.

But it would not have been possible if Obama team and I have NO DOUBT let it out that they never vetted Hillary. Just like the 3am announcement. He has shown over and over and over again what kind of person he is.

This also goes way beyond Hillary. Some of us who follow the bills etc and whom the impact of those bills will feel the most have been desparate for someone in the Dem Party to care about the Middle Class.

The way this party has operate for years shows no caring for us. I know many people don’t feel the effects financially of their decisions so you just brush yourself off and wait till next election.

Well some of us it has become do or die time for this Party to go back to the Party of the Clintons/FDR. We don’t want hands outs, we’re not victims but we are the losers.

People are losing their homes, jobs , no health care, deciding between medicine and eating. When and if they will ever be able to reire…and I could go on.

This is bigger than Hillary ..we are fighting for our lives here. Over dramatic you say…well not dramatic enough I say.

We must do all we can to stop the DNC, Dean, Pelosi , Kennedy, Brazile etc. who don’t care for our issues.

And Obama wants to lead this nation into the Global one world government that I’ve known about him for several years. It must be stopped.

A Must read
A questionable Speaker at Convention!!!!!

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/24/critics-question-dncs-pick-for-islamic-speaker-at-interfaith-gathering/

I totaly agree with this post. If the Democrats are so stupid to treat their own best candidate this way they will be brought to task by McCain. I’m glad to see someone highlighting what the DNC did to Hillary. It was unconscionable.

Susan, I’m sorry for the loss of your friend. Please take good care of yourself. Yes, Thank you Lisa B, great job, and to all the bloggers of NQ as well.

I love this ad. Lots of people don’t know about the corruption that went on in the DNC and RBC this year. People actually believe that obama won. It’s a lie. I want the truth to get out.

Sorry for your loss.

My condolences for your loss Susan.

Sorry for you loss Susan. And I understand you are feeling especially vulnerable right now.

But this is politics. Hillary knows this better than anyone. She’s tough, savvy and can take care of herself. What? You think this question wasn’t going to come up?

Actually, since the msm is in the tank for 0bama, I figure they’re not going to ask it as much as you think. The last thing they want is for Hillary’s supporters to feel as though the press is picking on her yet again.

She has a chance to make her speech. But you know, no matter what she says, it won’t be enough for 0bama and his supporters. Whereas they should be groveling and begging Hillary and Bill for painting them as racists, 0bama and his gang of thugs have turned it around. They want Hillary and Bill to do the groveling. As if in a democracy anybody can force voters to vote for 0bama.

I’m going to preach this now until 0bama, Michelle, Dean, Pelosi and the whole rotten bunch realize that they can’t dictate what Hillary’s supporters do and that they have INSULTED US, lied to us, demeaned the Primary process, exploited the African American community and destroyed the Party with their backroom deals.

THEY are the ones who SHOULD be groveling! They are the ones who should be calling off these leftwing blogger nutjobs who have called Hillary and her supporters names and even threatened us.

They better hear this and hear this good: blaming Hillary is going to get the lot of you tossed out on your asses. If not now in 2010, but one way or the other you all will be voted out into oblivion.

McCain is doing what 0bama has done and is doing: trying to get elected. Instead of calling PUMA and anyone who doesn’t support 0bama names, instead of blaming Hillary now and in November for 0bama’s inevitable loss, they might want to try a different tact.

Frankly, it won’t make a difference to me, as Uppity said, see you in 4 years. But I know that for a lot of people it just might.

Incredible, that these dumbfucks don’t even know how to get elected.

BTW, I won’t be watching their ‘dog and pony‘ show this week. I actually wish the Clintons had passed as well. I guess they couldn’t do that.

But I can.

WIN WITHOUT ME!

Big Hillary supporter speaking here. I think the ad was respectful of Hillary, too. I have no problems with it – not the content or timing. Also, McCain put out an ad with Biden saying the same thing. It’s not rocket science – nor a unique phenomenon – for someone to say Obama is not experienced. Any mildly intelligent, honest person could have been and many were filmed saying it.

Comment by Raven | 2008-08-24 14:31:22

To be honesr, I don’t get how or why Hillary made that appearance in FL the day after her friend and sister, Stephanie, passed away. They were way too close. I lost a close friend suddenly lasy year who was my extended family, and was devastated for weeks.

I’m just speculating, but she must be afarid of shwing any emotion for fear the media monsters will pounce.

Let’s send Hill love and light. This is a tough time for her and she must feel like she’s carrying the world on her shoulders (IMO and maybe an exaggeration but you get the drift). And a friend being murdered – wow – tough.

The republican party has been exposed for the past 7 years.

Want to see 4 more years of the same?

The dollar you had in your pocket when George W. Bush was elected is now worth precisely 41 cents. That’s not the doing of the democrats. That’s republican economic policy in action.

John McCain has said he would change what?

Precisely nothing. He’s the No plan, all scam candidate. In 4 years he’ll shrink your 41-cent dollar down by another dime.

Your next economic stimulus check will probably be paid in monopoly money.

It makes me sick to think I need to vote for McCain to protect the country from a fascist terrorist loving Fraudbama Hussein. It makes me sick to be called a Hillary Democrat knowing this label will make things tougher for her. I am a disenfranchised Democrat and I have not changed my party. As strawberry says…BITE ME!
One false move at the convention by Obamanazi and I am voting repub all the way down the ticket. I’ll be repub for a day to do it if need be. Even though it makes me sick thinking about it.
I’m not a Hillary Democrat.
I’m a disenfranchised Democrat. Count every vote. 1 person 1 vote! Serial voting performed by inelegible voters is cheating! Barack Hussein Obama is a stupid crook and proof that a college degree (if he realy has one) is not an indicator of common sense. UHHHHH UMMMMMMMMMM FU Barfy

Hi Susan UNPC —- I didn’t see the ad yet, but I don’t think McC would try and exploit her.
She has all the PUMA hearts on her side and RD is in DENVER!

I’m sorry for your loss of a dear friend.

I don’t know what I would have done without your blog and the Confluence during this election.
You guys are the BEST! Hillary is the strongest, bravest woman in politics. She is LOVED!

I am very happy for this ad, this is exactly what had to be said to wake up the public. Its the same questions we have all asked ourselves over and over on every blog without an answer.

What was done to Hillary is unforgivable, so I feel nothing in Mc Cain bringing it to the public attention of the dog treatment shown to Hillary at this time.

It had to me said by someone, the media was not going to do it, no one is listening to us blogger, PUMA or anyone else, they just say we are bitter or racial and we don’t want Obama.

So hats off to Mc Cain for putting this out there, now some will have to notice and think about this ad , if its BS or the plain truth either way the message is out there in the public domain.

I think our next proof of friendship for Hillary will be to create a party for her, if necessary.

A FOX reporter said Ed Rendell told him Hillary definitely intends to run again!

Depending on how this all plays out (for example, if Obama wins, heaven forbid), we may need to create new party ASAP, so it will be ready for her in 2012.

A-NONE:

I’m waiting for my $1,000 check from baby BO– what are you waiting for?

Stop the hate!

I’m glad you put it this way. I don’t care what Hillary thinks. I’m me. This is about my anger with the Democratic Party, the leadership in particular.

Hillary lost. I faced that back in May.

I am now using my vote the way I want. And it doesn’t include 0bama and any other Democrat this year because of what THE PARTY LEADERS DID.

Can I make this any more clear?

Wait a minute. Of course I can:

WIN WITHOUT ME!

On second thought, even if McCain wins we will still need a new party for Hillary, unless the current Dems can be purged from the DNC. They would never let Hillary run again.

Did Obama care about Hillary when they were busy sending their 3 am VP message what was that all about??

That little game was for what purpose to let Hillary know this was one 3 am phone call she did not get? The Obama camp is scum and some of you better wake up and notice that.

STFU Anon troll.

Oblowme and Biden are wicked shits who make McSane look like an angel.

Murphy had a bad habit of interrupting guests just when they were making their point, then saying good-bye and taking a new call. Not a huge loss. She’s better at organizing. Let it go. She has more important things to do than to be on the radio I guess.

Where is that lawsuit out on her? She is violating several issues one of which is her conflct of interest. She works for DNC but is a pundit. That is some serious conflict of interest.
Anyone know about that lawsuit?

John McCain is the ONLY ONE who can speak out now on Hillary’s DEEPEST feelings…

Earth to JimBob… Come in, JimBob… Do you read me?

So Pelosi and Obama both are scamming the votes? A private company to steal the votes?
Pelosi is a huge problem. She is behind this mess.

I saw her in person and she is way better looking than on TV and thinner too. She is mezmerizing.

I don’t have a problem with the ad. It’s true.

The DNC and leadership remind me of my twin nieces. Each one blames the other when they do something wrong.

There’s not an adult in the whole bunch. It’s why I have no problem voting for McCain.

The ad reflects what ACTUALLY happened. Obviously there’s no brain cells in the Dem Party either. You’d figure by now they’d want to at least own up to what they did.

Susan, sorry to hear of your loss.
The most admirable trait of Senator Clinton, in my opinion, is her strength in times of adversity!
She did not get where she is today without that, and no one can state that she has not been tested repeatedly!
Her great achievements this year were witnessed by all Americans…from all sides. She will always be a winner!

Hear! Hear!

Bite me!

I was a loyal Dem for 40 years. I only broke ranks a couple of times, but I vote in EVERY ELECTION and EVERY PRIMARY, local, too.

If Dean, Pelosi, Reid, Kerry, Kennedy, Brazile think they can get away with this shit and call me a Hillary supporter when it was in fact THEM and 0bama who have disenfranchised me, then all I have to say is wait till November.

Hillary can do as she pleases.

She’s not my mother or boss.

WIN WITHOUT ME!

That occurred to me–maybe McCain talked to her about this ad before airing it. I have read that they are quite close. I think they have the same quick, sharp sense of humor. McCain wouldn’t do anything to harm that friendship. He does not seem rash or mean to his colleagues and he doesn’t burn bridges. And Hillary has taken far worse from Obama. She can handle it…….. She has shown herself to be supporting the party and Obama. She has displayed no bitterness. Let McCain say what he will. It is no refection on her.

This ad was tastefully done. I don’t see it hurting Hillary. I think the ad is great.

You said it much better than I did.

We are DAMN angry. And we KNOW that HIllary is the better candidate and would make an incomparably better president.

But we do not like being used like tools.

We do not like our FEELINGS and THINKING about Hillary being exploited for political gain.

Obama was sworn in as a U.S. Senator in January 2005. He’s been Hillary’s colleague in the U.S. Senate for 3 years and 8 months.

When he’s sworn in as president this coming January, he will have been a U.S. Senator for 4 years.

Clyburn is scum.
He was race baiting from day one.

I find it strange that the left wing has no
problem with Biden’s vote for IWR and his
support of the credit card companies.
Yet Hillary is to be condemned for everything.

wtf are you all talking about?

Who is dissing Murphy? How did she mess up? If you are referring to something not in this thread spell it out so we know what the frick you are talking about.

I’m so sorry about your friend, Susan. You do have many friends and admirers on NQ, all ready to support an comfort you in anyway we can.

Hillary herself has lost a good friend this week. Tubbs Jones was one strong woman.

I remember that during the primary, when Hillary was under attack for everything, from her laugh to her aiding a sick child, she commented that she was “impervious” to all the insults. I hope that’s so.

The sexism and misogyny that fuels the attacks on Hillary will not stop. McCain’s ad may set her up for more, but the sad truth is that the so-called progressives and the right wing nuts, men and women, will use Hillary as a target for all their hatred of women.

Hillary is my hero.
PUMA

Great AD!

Do another one McCain! SHE WAS TREATED LIKE A DOG. 18 MILLION PISSED OFF VOTERS!

YES I M CLINGING TO MY GUNS AND MY GOD! OBAMANUT

Great AD!

Do another one McCain! SHE WAS TREATED LIKE A DOG. 18 MILLION PISSED OFF VOTERS!

YES I AM CLINGING TO MY GUNS AND MY GOD! OBAMANUT

Excuse me, but I know what Susan was talking about…it struck me as odd, too, that McCain would use Hillary to make his points. Yes, it’s true the media would bash her regardless, and it’s also true that every action we take, however independent of Hillary, causes backlash for her, too.

What Susan was writing about is hardly “whining” — she is recognizing that Hillary, also, has lost a dear friend and colleague, and this is not the time to be piling on and relying on her formidable strength.

Hillary will not lose the GE. That’s bunk and a rotten excuse to get an inadeguate, ineligible, unqualified puppet dude to do Pelosi’s bidding. Pelosi is Obama’s pimp.

Puleeze. Hill is a die hard dem and would be offended. email him to pick Carly Fiona.

“I guess I’m a wing-nut because I’m not particularly fond of the Clintons.”

Well. You said it.

And also not to like shortbread! I guess it takes all kinds!

he has fish eyes…evil eyes

Uppity,

Thanks for reminding me of the fact that in 2004, Kerry wasn’t my first, my second or my third choice and I held my nose and voted for him because I wanted Bush out.

So where do the Dems & 0bama get off acting like we’re Hillary supporters who have lost their minds
because we can’t accept that Hillary lost. Oh please! Spare me!

Earth to Democrats, you guys practically NEVER GET IT RIGHT! I’m ALWAYS holding my nose.

Not this time. And I’m AA so you can’t call me a racist.

The way you selected 0bama, the way he played the race card, gamed the Caucus, the way women were demeaned and offended for a candidate with no REAL experience or qualifications.
Sorry, but I ain’t holding my nose no more.

The leftwing and the DNC’s hatred of Bill and Hillary Clinton made them behave in the most unseemly manner. And on top of everything, they’ve tried to ‘gaslight’ Dem voters by acting like they’ve done nothing but played fair and square.

I guess because we held our nose in the past you think we’re a bunch of idiots and maybe that’s well deserved because we took it for so long.

But the Party’s over.

Hear that?

We’re in new territory. And you all own it!

Now that’s change you can believe in.

WIN WITHOUT ME!

Sorry to hear you’ve lost your dear friend, Susan. Courage!

You two are pathetic TROLLS.

Take that RECENT and BARE MINIMUM Dem majority and “what have they done” and shove it up your sad collective rear ends.

Nice try, tho.

I was glad to read the story about Bill Gwatney because I was suspect about it all along. The story was squashed by the media. Something else that concerned me was that Stephanie Tubbs Jones mysteriously has a brain aneurysm; she was a strong supporter of Hillary Clinton. I have a minor background in the medical industry; this leads me to wonder if Mrs. Jones may have been exposed to potassium that could have induced an aneurysm. Do not want to be view as a conspiracy’s theorist but something is wrong about her sudden death. Law enforcement released three different stories; Wikipedia and CNN was reporter her dead within two hours of her injuries. They also began bragging her seat was vacant; then after her official death notification the following day Obama seeks to replace Hillary delegates with his supporters. Was she injected with potassium or did she stop to eat and someone helped her ingest it? Obama needs Ohio and Arkansas; Hillary states to pull this corrupt election off.

Something else that concerned me was Tim Russert sudden death. It was brought to my attention he was working on a corruption story on Obama; after he sold out to him. I assume this could have been orchestrated; just in time to interrupt the Larry Sinclair interview.

The media is set to blame Hillary if Obama loses–she didn’t “do enough”. That is why I am so glad she is far away from the stench of Obama–if she were VP she would do all the work with none of the credit but when something went wrong everything would get blamed on her.

Sorry for your loss Susan
Best wishes

Murphy got booted from her NQ radio spot for no show and no phone call.

Stop already with the 1.008th “third” party idea.

It’s not going to happen.

Please consider why the McCain campaign and the likes of Sean Hannity, Pat Buchanan and Rudy Giuliani are the ones speaking the loudest in public about Obama’s “disrespect” of Hillary.

What business is it of theirs who the Democrats’ v.p. nominee is?

Furthermore… since when does the Republican party care about what’s best for Hillary Clinton?

This is a divide-and-conquer move. You should be insulted by it.

The Dem leaders have to be EXPOSED as well. It’s not enough to just to expose 0bama. If that happens then Dean, Pelosi, and the rest of the cabal will throw him under the bus and save themselves.

So let’s let it ALL hang out.

Susan,

So deeply sorry about your loss. It’s not easy to continue on our paths during such times…as I know only too well this year.

I know what you are saying, both from a standpoint of timing due to Hillary’s recent losses, and also from the point that it seemed awkward that McCain would use Hillary.

But I think the reason he did is because it’s already a media meme, and so he’s using the power of the echo chamber. He’s not adding to it so much as riding along.

Take care.

I meant to post this here, sorry!

Susan,

So deeply sorry about your loss. It’s not easy to continue on our paths during such times…as I know only too well this year.

I know what you are saying, both from a standpoint of timing due to Hillary’s recent losses, and also from the point that it seemed awkward that McCain would use Hillary.

But I think the reason he did is because it’s already a media meme, and so he’s using the power of the echo chamber. He’s not adding to it so much as riding along.

Take care.

Mimi, I agree with you as well. I’m AA. I voted for Kerry-we all did. Right after lost I changed to an independent. I didn’t want to be apart of a party that couldn’t beat somebody like Bush with a war hero.

I have no problem whatsoever with the ad. Similarly, McCain responded to the announcement of Biden with dignity, praise for the man and said they were long time friends. OTOH, Biden has been given the job of attack dog and he will do just that. So typical of passive aggressive Barry. He needs someone else to do the dirty work. Last night (Fox?) one of the commentators mentioned one of the first Biden comments…which I missed…as “he’s already put the knife in his friend McCain’s back). McCain has been completely respectful of Hillary.

We, too, have a job to do and it isn’t in protecting Hillary. She has plenty of close people for insulation and buffer to all that. What we have to do is provide the opportunity for 2012. For that to happen, McCain must win.

It’s no longer about Hillary. It’s about the crooks in the DNC and our commitment to changing the party leadership to one that will deal honestly with Democrats and their votes. We may need a new identity before 2012. The Obama people want to be known as the New Democrats but to me that best describes those of us who refuse to go along. They actually are more business as usual.

DD, do you think McCain will step down in 2012. He can count on my vote now but not in 4 years. I’m not in the mood to give politicans 8 years if they don’t perform. That’s one of the reasons I’m against Barry. I think if he gets in he’ll be hard to get out.

I think the ad is just fine – in fact I am happy that John McCain has it out there so that all of Hillary Clinton’s voters who don’t come on the internet – who don’t know the whole background – who in good faith voted for Hillary will see that there was a problem and they will take that into their consideration when voting in the General.

It is pretty mild – it could have been a lot worse – and I am looking forward to more of McCain’s ads – they are terrific!

I am pretty sure that when McCain is President McCain he will have Hillary Clinton in his cabinet. He said he will put some democrats in his cabinet – and you can be sure Barry Soetoro won’t be one of them.

Also something to think about – if something happens to Barry and Old Joe also has problems, then the person who will be Pres will be …….. The speaker! Them’s the rules. So we could be looking forward to a President Pelosi…. Something else to think about when deciding who to vote for in the General.

Me? I’m now gung ho for John McCain.

I put absolutely nothing past these thugs. I was hoping they would look closer at Stephanie’s death. I understand though that the delay in taking her off life support was due to her being an organ donor. If there was chemistry involved, it would seem to me that would be affected.

I am very suspicious of the Little Rock murder though…so far, no motive found.

If Clinton were the presumptive nominee, we would be listening to 24/7 attacks on Hillary instead of Barack Obama. All of the old right-wing crapola on the Clintons would be back in regular rotation. The recurring refrain would be the idea that a win for Hillary would put Bill back in the White House. The republicans had that negative campaign all mapped out.

And lets not forget if Obama is elected do you seriously think he will not do everything he can to rid himself of Hillary for good.

Why on earth with all he has already done to her and Bill would he allow her to keep her Senate seat.

I have NO DOUBT HE WILL DO ANYTHING HE CAN TO UNSEST HER IN THE SENATE. He knows she will run again and will make sure she is ruined in anyway before that can happen. Mark my words , he will do it.

Oh….thanks…

a no-show is harsh, but let’s have some suspended judgment…it’s an overwhelming time.

Susan – just a moment of condolences for you and your dear friend and the family members. I am so sorry – it is always difficult to lose a close friend..

Just wanted to say re Joe Biden – I hear he is retaining his senate seat although there is someone after it. I find that interesting he is doing what Kerry did and what John Edwards did not do – to his detriment. Wonder if Barry Soetoro is retaining his Senate seat – frankly I think he should lose both the Presidency and the Senate seat – he deserves neither.

no I am seeing at least someone gives a flying frak enough to pander to us the Dem base, 18 million of us

clearly OUR party doesnt give a frak

ladyhawkke on 08.24.08 at 3:41 pm

I wore my pin and hat with another pin and wow!! People want to talk about Hillary…even Republicans like her. I ran into two women with Hillary shirts on. One is a delegate from Florida. Bad news is that what she got out of the delegate phone call is that what is going to happen on roll call is the states where Hillary has huge margins will all pass so Obama can get his win; then they will go back and let the other states vote..that’s why they are saying “symbolic.”

His ego can’t take it. How much more are they going to change in order to please Obama?

Republican chick,

McCain may be a maverick to your tastes, but at the end of the day, who would you be more comfortable with as POTUS?

McCain or 0bama?

It’s come down to this.

Maverick be damned! McCain’s who you guys got this election cycle. Just like 0bama is who the Dems got stuck with.

Sorry, but the Republicans got the better end of the deal this time around.

But McCain’s age makes it doubtful he’ll serve more than one term. You all have 4 years to regroup. Meanwhile, the Dems will be in shambles. Especially if they insist on keeping 0bama and his ilk in the fold and refuse to admit they were wrong.

Wow…

The author of the article has it right, it’s obvious.

Some of you think that was a sincere expression of respect for Sen. Clinton?

It was him spitting in Sen. Clinton’s face to hit Obama with no regard for senator Clinton her situation, her recent losses.

You tell yourself what you need too and pretend he discussed it with her and got her approval if you must, but the rest of us, those who live in reality know better.

You are being played…and played well.

Who is really being played?

Think about it:

The MSM wants to make this all about Obamarosa again.

Its not.

This first (point #1) is about John McCain slapping ObaMeMeMe back for him slapping his friend Hillary by not only not vetting not considering then calling after the MSM announced Clinton wasnt even considered to say haha not you and finally releasing the text message at 3:00 am as a final stab and twist.

Its petty politics and the MSM won’t call Gosh Darn Good Lookng Obobble out on it so McCain did. I respect him immensely for that.

But, Everybody is missing the forrest for the trees.

Point #2:

Hillary and Obamboozle had a very contentious primary fight. Many things were said back and forth. And the Race was extremely close.

Yes we all know Obullshit stole it, but even if he hadn’t or it had turned out differently, the shear number of votes for each of them would have demanded in good concience that the VP slot be offered to the other.

If Hillary had won you can bet they would have made sure Obama was on the ticket.

McCain and Romney also had a very contentious primary battle. Romney dropped out much earlier but still he garnered the most votes of those running against McCain.

If McCain selects Romney, this Passed Over ad lays the groundwork for a brilliant strategy of using Hillary’s Non-Selection as VP to draw a cut and dry distinction between Opettyboyma and McGracious.

If The Obitter/Hairplugs campaign goes after Mac and starts using Romney in attack ads from the primary debates, Mac can come back and say:

“Hey look, we had a hot primary, but we are the party that respects out voters. Mitt got a large percentage of the primary vote.

“I can look beyond whatever personal differences and bickering we have and see the strengths we each bring to the ticket, myself on foreign policy/defense and Mitt on the economy, and work together respecting the will of the voters in our party and for the good of the country.”

“My Opponent Senator Infanticide, chose his Presidential, i mean Vice Presidential Running mate Typical White Grampa 2%, against the will of half of his party as a way to express his personal pettiness.”

“Unlike Barry OMeMyselfAndI, I recognize that the presidency is a call to serve a purpose greater than your own self interests.”

“Its not about me.”

“Its not about petty primary vindictiveness and twisting the knife and releasing text messages at 3:00 am to get even for an ad i didn’t like.”

“Its about the will of the voters.”

“Its about country first.”

“Its not about Barrack America, its about the United States of America.”

Its a strategically Brilliant move and a potentially debilitating trap. The only way the Democrats are able to avoid this trap is to not use the Romney attacks.

Now, knowing how stupid the vindictive children in the Obama campaign are, the question is are they willing to cut off their own noses to spite their face or will the Omessiah turn the other cheek?

I think the answer to that question lies in Denver and how fractured they are when they come out of it.

However, Based on past experience watching the Obutthead Brigade work their hateful magic, i expect them to fall into the trap that helps remind woman and men for the next two months that this really is the Joebama / Not-Hillary ticket, and that will help them in all the wrong ways.

Also, I expect the racist card to be played non stop if Romney is selected. Hang on folks its going to get damn ugly.

So tell me who is being played?

Obama played us long enough, now its his turn.

sorry no can wakey for DEMS, they took Hillary away and left me with Obummer and Boring Old white man who likes credit card companies

I feel ZERO loyalty after 20 years of being a Democrat in my very heart and soul

Ia m done being kicked by my OWN party

voting for MAC with PLEASURE

I totally agree. I think someone from PUMA et al
should notify the McCain campaign that if they hope to gain any of our votes that ad should be pulled. It is very demeaning to Hillary and to her supporters. That ad will do nothing but send us the other way.
I think I wish I were in Denver. It looks like things are heating up there. My eyes are glued to every news station and I have to give Will a great
big “ATTA BOY!” You are a great spokesperson for PUMA and the movement. Now if we can only convince the media and the rest of America that this isn’t just about Hillary. It is how the DNC totally manipulated the election process and how they disenfranchised and disgraced true “democracy” by asking Hillary to step down.
There’s where our anger truly lies and I pray that Hillary knows this.

must BURN you that we reelected him and he left with such a HIGH approval rating, admit it it still BURNS huh?

dumbaxx

Clinton was GREAT for the whole country and whatever went on was b/w he Hillary Chelsea and God..

I suspect that the next Obama troll tactic will be “I am a puma supporter and i am offended that McCain used Hillary Like that. Only Obama respects hillary, vote for Obama.”

excuse me while i PUKE!

that wasnt directed at you RepublicanChick but the Idjit who glommed onto your comment :0>

You all are being played because McCain had 3 or 4 versions cut for whoever was selected VP. He’s not the McCain of 8 and 12 years ago. Your being played because people who have nothing in common with you, don’t care about you or your causes or Sen. Clinton are pretending they do, knowing the gullible will believe them.

You are right it’s excellent politics, but these kind of politics rely on the gullible to be effective. Being excellent “politics” does not mean it’s not manipulative and dirty, yes you all are being played and I find it a little sad/funny.

In the end, you will be cast adrift…. If McCain does win, you win nothing, no policy, no protections, no things important to Hillary, only dark cold revenge.

See how long you can life off that.

I am not a violent person, but I swear, when Obama loses in November and I have to hear the Obots crying in their lattes, if even one says within my earshot that Hillary (or Bill, or her supporters) are responsible for BOs defeat I will punch them in the mouth and gladly go to jail.

We offer our condolences to Susan on her loss.

As for the ad, I wasn’t crazy about it, but didn’t see it as inherently off limits.

Politics are adversarial; the term campaign itself comes from war. If it was fine for Hillary to attack her friend Obama, I see no reason why her attack can’t be coopted by the Republicans.

Similarly, if Hillary had been nominated, I would expect her to attack McCain and vice-versa.

If McCain wins, obama loses control of the New Democratic Thugfest i mean party.

The DNC goes into meltdown and Obama and his fools get sent back to chicago.

Then we start the painful but neccessary work of rebuilding a party that understands that they have an obligation to work for the american people not bamboozle them while catering to latte liberals who want sex education in kindergarten and think its kool to blow up police stations.

The DNC is out of touch and needs a wake up call.

If this is what it takes to get the crooks out then so be it.

One tactical point on which we disagree. I think the use Romney over and over, again and again because the Biden/Clinton comments have been used (too soon in my opinion) Romney made comments about McCain that are much more cutting than anything Hillary or Biden said about Obama. One additional note, Obama should really push McCain on why he is ignoring Huckkaby when the time comes.

Time will tell….

Yup, Politics is a contact sport but its not for children.

And trying to convince people that the one who disrespected Hillary was John McCain and Not Backtrack Obamarosa is going to be the next talking point on the Adolf Axelfraud daily troll memo.

Romney and Huckabee are very close in delegates and huckabee stayed in till the end while romney dropped early. I highly doubt the democrats can raise the why not huckabee issue effectively without looking stupid.

Romney delegate count: 271
Huckabee delegate count: 278

on the other hand

Clinton Delegate count: 1896
Biden delegate count: 0 as in Z E R O

from cnn elections

Really NO comparison…sorry.

Politicians will always be politicians and she has to do what she has to do in order to be a viable candidate in 2012. If she were to accept VP it would destroy her chances of 2012 because Obama would take her down the drain with him.

Together her 18 million strong can change the outcome of how the DNC expected it would end.
We all believe that Obama is not qualified for this position and if we stick together we will hopefully put in the hands of someone that is. Joe Biden is not the answer. He took the position because he has nothing to lose. Remem-
ber he’s the one that said “Obama is not quailified.”

If the nominee would have been Clinton and the election process presented itself the same way, we would be ANGERED as we are now, maybe not as much as Hillary does have experience and we do know who she is BUT are true ANGER is with the DNC and they do not want to take responsibility for it. THEY HAVE TO TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR ACTIONS FOR DESTROYING A “TRUE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS”. No candidate or voter is re-
sponsible for dividing the Democratic Party. The only hope that we have right now to realize a “true and free” election is for the Delegates to do what they were elected to do. If that does not happen, the only thing that we have left is to do what we have to do and that is to let the DNC and a few high ranking dems like Dean, Pelosi and Reid that we will not stand for what they did.

meant to say:

I highly doubt the democrats can raise the why not huckabee issue effectively without looking stupid, and reminding voters that Obutthead did NOT choose Clinton. Its a lose lose situation for them and always will be.

Her predicament is prickly this week but expecting John McCain to wear kid gloves regarding Obama is unrealistic and ultimately ineffective. McCain needs to continue to press these issues regarding Obama’s experience and character. If toles were reversed I would expect Hillary to use the information she had to win.

As to them using Romney over and over again in attack ads, meh wont matter. There is a wealth of stuff on Obama that will be used in addition to the Primary stuff.

Obama’s own words, Rezko, ayers, auchi. hammas, Reverend wright, and his upcoming book tour in october called Reverend Wright Redux: the Sequel, the anninburg challenge, Emil Jones and making me a US senator, the list goes on and on.

Its really unfortunate but once you get past the media hype and the phoney hollywood production, the actual Obama candidacy is one of the weakest and worst ever put forward by the Democratic Party.

They deserve to lose.

You hope

They republicans will be ruthless this time around particularly because the MSM is so in the tank for Obama that they will feel that they have to be even more in your face about it to get the message out. I can’t fault them for that…thats politics.

I expect nothing less.

Susan,

Sorry about your friend. But I took this ad as a way of McCain letting Obama know that they are on to the fraud of this election. I think McCain will remind us of the media, super delegates and the caucas fraud. I took it as a warning to Obama.

He will want to keep reminding us of this to keep us not voting for Obama on Nov 4th.

And let us hope that ALL of Hillary Clinton’s supporters — AT the convention — behave in the most dignified manner possible, and that they follow Hillary Clinton’s lead.

I reread the article and was a bit surprised that I missed a few quotes. I just have to state that I hope PUMA’s and all Hillary supporters do NOT support Obama whether that’s Hillary’s lead or not.

We’ve already been fooled once by the DNC; that if Hillary was a good girl by suspending her campaign that she could be nominated at convention.

Sorry not again.

She doesn’t need reminders from anyone — and most assuredly not from her friends — of her remarkable fight in the primaries, and the utter madness that she is not the nominee when she not only won more votes but also is vastly more qualified.

Actually if I was in her shoes, I would WANT everyone to talk about how I had more votes than the other candidate and how I was more qualified.
I would want people to shout it from the rooftops.

GO PUMAS!

Forest for the trees….

Right to life folks are looking for something from McCain.

McCain says he’s right to life but he supported embryonic stem cell research, for them it’s still a issue.

I’m hoping he picks Romney, there is just too much good stuff associated with that pick to not hope that’s the guy.

EyesOpen
Not expecting Kid gloves but McCain is playing with fire, if Hillary supporters, women in particular feel McCain is trying to manipulate them with false praise it could turn, and turn bad.

Let’s not do anything that will make that opportunity more difficult for her. Let’s not build MORE resentment against her.

The DNC ploy of scaring women into being good because we might ‘ruin it for someone else’ is getting old.

This ploy of the DNC is definitely a feminist issue. Woman have always been made to feel guilty for standing up for their rights.

Don’t fall for it Susan. If anyone ‘ruins it’ for someone else (Hillary) blame the DNC, Obama, and Media where the blame belongs.

mccain 08
hillary 12/16
obama 20 to life
puma

I actually see the ad as a back handed compliment to Hillary. I dont know what ad you are looking at Susan, but the one I see shows respect for Senator Clinton and questions the ignorance against her by the DNC and Obama.

Lighten up Susan.

Annie, I agree with you. Hillary is a fighter and we do not have to worry about her. If the delegates do not do what they were elected to do at the convention then we have no other recourse that to do what is best for this country. The DNC is crazy that they think they can get away with what they did and throw out a candidate for us to stand behind that has absolutely no experience. no deinite idea on any issue and with a questionable background. They throw Biden out there because he probably is the person with least to lose in the political arena. He’s just about on the way out the door anyway. The DNC give us no other choice than to VOTE for someone that has some experience with the dire issues facing our country.
I guess the Obama campaign was trying to shock us with the 7 table story. Wow, what a shocker that one was like we don’t know he’s rich. Every one of them sitting up there in D.C. have more money that we have so what difference does it make how much more? I see no other choice to hopefully help our country and shake up the DNC and that is to vote for McCain. They have forced my husband and I, who have been staunch dem’s for over 40 years, to do this.

Lets not forget that there is plenty of stink in both Obama’s and Bidens background.

Lock up your Speeches when they come to dinner.

Good girl wonderwoman!!! I should have done likewise in 2004.

If the current leadership of the DNC has their way they will end the Clintons politically as well as any poarty member who is one of their strong supporters.

Anyone, ANYONE who doubts is living in lala land and has forgotten what happened in the primaries.

Any obama troll who comes here and says “OMG do you want to destroy the Clintons and their future chances by not voting Obama” is equivelant to Himler telling you to take your vitamins before you hop in the shower. You trust them at your peril.

I understand susans point and believe she genuinely feels that way, but i trust the Obama freaks to use it as a talking point to further the Obama not out of any respoect or love for clinton. They will grab it and use it for the next week and see if it gets any traction with pumas. They are above nothing.

Sorry for the loss of your friend Susan.

That is my belief too, simanov. I also believe the CIC comments Hillary or even some of the comments Big Dawg made were not gaffes. The Clintons know politics and how the republicans operate. The best thing about this ad is…it’s getting air time and being talked about. Bravo McCain campaign! The democratic party, DNC, and ratings hungry, Kool-Aid drinking media are exploiting Hillary and looking for any excuse to blame her for anything that may go wrong with BO or the election. Hillary needs to do what she needs to do and we need to understand and respect that…she is a class act. The best thing we can do is… for now just wait quietly and patiently then in November head out to the polls and vote in record numbers for John McCain.

WE WILL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER!

McCain ’08…Country first.

I liked the ad.

I don’t see it as an insult to Hillary at all.

It is saying Obama can’t handle the truth about him by a strong woman.

“I highly doubt the democrats can raise the why not huckabee issue effectively”

How can they? It is apples and oranges.How many states did Huckabee win? The comparison makes no sense.

The only valid comparison would be Ford and Reagan in 1976.

I am from NY and we are painting it RED this year.

Especially in my area UPSTATE CNY. Very heavily REPUBLICAN. VERY

I think they will be in that Westchester voting booth. Voting for someone they know and trust. And I get the impression that is not OBAMA.

BERNICE = OBLOWME TROLL!

Nice try jackass.

Mimi –

I can relate to the twins thing!

I bet you’re right about owning up to it too.

The creeps will probably sell books bragging about it in the near future.

I like the ad. It’s speaking the truth for 18 million people, and though I know it is a Republican strategy to further divide the Democrats, so be it. The DNC leadership has made our bed with the wrong bedmate, and we shall lie it.

You need to wake up from your nightmare. He wont be taking the oath of office. But keep up your rich fantasy life.

Right on Suit! I’ve worked with killers (murderers) and I always say shark eyes!

No, stop being an egghead. It is clearly political opportunism. The divide and conquer move happened when Dean, Pelosi, Reid, Brazille and other higher ups pre-selected their candidate, rigged the caucus system, stacked the super-delegates and set the date for the coronation to coincide with MLK’s “I have a dream” speach. As and AA you should be livid that they chose the most politically incompetent boob they could find. Because of their idiocy they’ll set race relations back, they’ll ruin the progress we’ve made, and most importantly when a wonderful AA candidate comes along we may be denied their terrific leadership simply because of this fiasco. Any time a token candidate gets put forward we all suffer, but especially the group that is cynically being used. Last time it was the evangelical crowd. This time it is the AA’s. We just need to make sure that it never happens again. Just think about all the wonderful, high quality AA leaders who are going to suffer because of this. They could have literally chosen from thousands of well qualified AA leaders but they chose this guy. It should piss you and every AA off to no end.

so far mccain’s ads have been nimble, smart – even elegant.

this goes right to the heart of the matter. for my money it’s the PUMA platform.

i saw it as almost respectful of Hillary. this ad gets inside obama’s head on a psychological level – he sent it out at 3am. thrust. parry.

obama will always live in fear of hillary’s 18 million voters – this is the ad equivalent of pat’s graphic from last week.

it also sends a strong message to Hillary voters: We hear you! We know why you’re angry – you’re 18 million votes angry. (We see that, ask yourself why your nominee doesn’t? Is it because he’s too stupid? pig-headed? petty? irrational?)

our party has yet to get that message and it doesn’t look like they ever will.

…right, and Hillary is so not a token female leader; and, we’ve mowed her down and denied this country her gifts, for now…

This is not an embarrassment to Clinton it is an embarrassment to Obama. If Obama loses it is good for the country, good for the DNC, and good for Clinton. She doesn’t need to even comment on it. It would also be beneficial for her if Obama relieves her of campaigning for him. Anyone who can distance themselves from Obama is better off.

maybe this is why her brother met with mccain?
carrying the message that it was okay to run w/ this ad…

I agree, it’s not an embarrassment to Clinton, she is not responsible for the actions of McCain. She did what she was supposed to do and pushed back against the Ad.

As I mentioned before, if Obama had picked Clinton they would have some other Ad out today, that’s easy to see.

My point was McCain’s obvious attempt to manipulate Clinton supporters seemed to be working, strange, I though they were smarter than falling for such a obvious ploy.

…and I thought people were too smart to fall for Obama’s manipulations.

And people call us secret Republicans! Yeah right.

I’m still not voting for Obama, but McCain’s ad does upset me, for the very reasons Susan mentioned in her article. I agree with the ad, but I feel like when Obama loses (there’s no “ifs” about it) some people will point to this ad and say “See? It’s Hillary’s fault!”

But by November or (even more importantly) 2021, Obama will be tarnished by much more than stuff like this. The 527′s will wipe the floor with him, and this Hillary ad will be forgotten.

As and AA you should be livid that they chose the most politically incompetent boob they could find.

Well, Greg… Obama certainly wasn’t incompetent when it came to putting together a campaign organization. And raising money from small donors. And inspiring crowds. And out-strategizing Team Clinton to a fare-thee-well.

Give credit where it’s due.

Yo under the covers:

And he targeted clueless boobs like you!

Stop the hate!

Really? You think Hillary’s gonna need Obama’s former supporters in 2012? I say this with all sincerety.

My reasoning is this: Hillary can bank on 18 million votes in 2012. Then there is Obama’s 17 million some voters. They are not gonna coalesce around one candidate in the next election; some will go for Hillary, and others for people like John Edwards, Bill Richardson, and Chris Dodd.

So with at least 20 million people supporting her in 2012, she will have no real opposition and sweep the primaries.

Undercover Black Man –
What you say is not true. Like atheletes, politicians and political junkies can have a sincere respect for someone even if their political viewpoints differ. Throughout the entire primary season, Pat Buchanan spoke quite highly of Hillary Clinton and Rudy Giuliani has had a deep respect for her and has spoken out publicly for Senator Clinton especially since 9/11. As far as Sean Hannity, he, like Joe Scarborough, grew to have a deep respect for Clinton’s strength and passion and all three have a RIGHT to say something – that’s they’re job, just like we, unfortunately, have to listen to Donna Brazile and Dick Morris give their points of view as well.

Susan –
I am TRULY sorry for the loss of your dear friend…politics gets put into perspective when such an event happens and I thank you for everything you do he

Respectfully,I see McCain’s ad “Passed Over” in a different perspective from what you have voiced here.

Yes, this will be an incredibly hard week for Hillary, and she is having to do and say things that, frankly, I know in her heart of hearts she believes is bogus BS…but she will do if for the “good” of the party. (I disagree with Hillary choice to enable the Democratic Party this way b/c to enable is to keep them in this broken state – never forcing them to fix the problem).

HOWEVER, most importantly, McCain’s ad gives voice to the crux of what Hillary DID say in the campaign and FRANKLY what she ABSOLUTELY DOES believe. She didn’t just STOP believing these statements just because the Rules and Bylaws Committee illegally and disgustingly tied up Michigan and Florida’s delegates with a boy and handed them to Obama.

Therefore, I believe with everything in me that McCain’s ad running this week gives voice to Hillary’s true beliefs – beliefs that she is UNABLE to say at this time because of her role in “taking one for the team”. Down deep – I’ll bet she’s grateful as HELL for this ad and to John McCain.

As far as Hillary supporters voicing that they will vote McCain – I see nothing wrong in this. We are all Americans. We love Hillary, but in the end, she is not our puppeteer. Our vote is our individual choice and, therefore, is not a reflection on Hillary. If Hillary is no longer in the running – we have a right to choose our personal conscience.

Yes – I agree mimi – I’m boycotting the entire Dem. Convention – can’t even stomach it.

Add Bill Kristol and Bill Bennett to the list of right-wing subverters who say Obama should’ve chosen Hillary.

Of course, if he had, the right would be unloading on Bill and Hillary right now like they’ve never unloaded before.

What gave you that impression?

Was it the impressive investigative journalism and rigourous vetting that he has been subjected to by the MSM?

Or was it the resistance to allowing him to steal the nomination and game the caucus system by the DNC?

Susan, we love Hillary in our house and we don’t want to embarrass her or make things more difficult for her, but I am having a hard time understanding why it is her responsibility to unite the party. Or Bill’s either for that matter. She can’t fix the problem. Only Obama could do that and he hasn’t shown any inclination to reach out to anyone in her base. Where does it end. You can see by the post below, Undercover, how little respect is given her. I am not a delegate so I don’t have to make any decision about what I am willing to do to help Obama or the DNC with this farce. I want to continue to help her pay off her debt because I know she continued her campaign to the end for us and I don’t want to be selfish and only consider how I felt when she had to face more every day of the primaries than I could possibly understand. She would have been the best choice for VP. It would have helped unite the Party whether I personally wanted her to run on a ticket with him or not. She said publically several times she would serve in that capacity if asked to do so, yet she was not formally “vetted”. Do you think she will ever be given another chance? I doubt it myself. I believe she has resigned herself to do what she can in the senate or maybe a cabinet post, although I doubt he will offer that either. In a normal world, she would be given an opportunity to fight for her delegates and super delegates on the convention floor instead of having to negociate her speech. What has happened to the party that delegates have been put in the position where their voices are silenced by threats and intimidation and they are expected to support the lie? I would rather they pick up their signs and walk off the floor of the convention and not give it ligitmacy by their participartion, but I understand for Hillary why that can’t be done. But, my vote is my own, I have so much respect for her and admiration, that I would not be able to say no if she asked for anything thing else. I am so very sorry for the loss of your friend. I hope you will find comfort in memeories and support of your other friends.

hillary will be blamed by obama and his minions NO MATTER what she – or anybody else – does or says.

losing this election is going to expose the complete corruption and utter incompetence of the DNC and, yes, they will blame hillary.

that’s okay. i know the truth of the matter. and from what i see in this ad, so does john mccain.

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To me, this ad is about the DNC being politically unfit to lead this country. I’m sorry, but the DNC has to pay the price for their political incompetence. If you know anything about identity politics, you’d know better than to run two popular ‘identity candidates’ at each other’s throats in the primary. That Kennedy stunt was absolutely stupid. MI/FL was absolutely stupid. Playing race in South Carolina was absolutely stupid. McCain has every right to remind the country how screwed up the DNC is — especially since they are running a figurehead candidate.

It would be one thing if Obama could lead on his own, as Hillary could, then the DNC wouldn’t matter. But Obama is a figurehead. And the party behind him, well, res ipsa loquitor. The thing speaks for itself.