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		<title>By: whoframedrudy</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/4369/this-is-about-friendship/#comment-612329</link>
		<dc:creator>whoframedrudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me, this ad is about the DNC being politically unfit to lead this country.  I&#039;m sorry, but the DNC has to pay the price for their political incompetence.  If you know anything about identity politics, you&#039;d know better than to run two popular &#039;identity candidates&#039; at each other&#039;s throats in the primary.  That Kennedy stunt was absolutely stupid.  MI/FL was absolutely stupid.  Playing race in South Carolina was absolutely stupid.  McCain has every right to remind the country how screwed up the DNC is -- especially since they are running a figurehead candidate.

It would be one thing if Obama could lead on his own, as Hillary could, then the DNC wouldn&#039;t matter.  But Obama is a figurehead.  And the party behind him, well, &lt;i&gt;res ipsa loquitor&lt;/i&gt;.  The thing speaks for itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me, this ad is about the DNC being politically unfit to lead this country.  I&#8217;m sorry, but the DNC has to pay the price for their political incompetence.  If you know anything about identity politics, you&#8217;d know better than to run two popular &#8216;identity candidates&#8217; at each other&#8217;s throats in the primary.  That Kennedy stunt was absolutely stupid.  MI/FL was absolutely stupid.  Playing race in South Carolina was absolutely stupid.  McCain has every right to remind the country how screwed up the DNC is &#8212; especially since they are running a figurehead candidate.</p>
<p>It would be one thing if Obama could lead on his own, as Hillary could, then the DNC wouldn&#8217;t matter.  But Obama is a figurehead.  And the party behind him, well, <i>res ipsa loquitor</i>.  The thing speaks for itself.</p>
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		<title>By: It&#8217;s Not About Hillary Anymore &#171; The Horizontal World</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/4369/this-is-about-friendship/#comment-607532</link>
		<dc:creator>It&#8217;s Not About Hillary Anymore &#171; The Horizontal World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hillary&#8217;s &#8220;defeat&#8221; to stir the flames of resentment to sway votes toward the GOP. SusanUnPc wrote a very moving piece about this.  And then there are the people, women even, who, by using [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hillary&#8217;s &#8220;defeat&#8221; to stir the flames of resentment to sway votes toward the GOP. SusanUnPc wrote a very moving piece about this.  And then there are the people, women even, who, by using [...]</p>
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		<title>By: lunatic</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/4369/this-is-about-friendship/#comment-604293</link>
		<dc:creator>lunatic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hillary will be blamed by obama and his minions NO MATTER what she - or anybody else - does or says.  

losing this election is going to expose the complete corruption and utter incompetence of the DNC and, yes, they will blame hillary.

that&#039;s okay.  i know the truth of the matter. and from what i see in this ad, so does john mccain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hillary will be blamed by obama and his minions NO MATTER what she &#8211; or anybody else &#8211; does or says.  </p>
<p>losing this election is going to expose the complete corruption and utter incompetence of the DNC and, yes, they will blame hillary.</p>
<p>that&#8217;s okay.  i know the truth of the matter. and from what i see in this ad, so does john mccain.</p>
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		<title>By: elise</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/4369/this-is-about-friendship/#comment-604213</link>
		<dc:creator>elise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan, we love Hillary in our house and we don&#039;t want to embarrass her or make things more difficult for her, but I am having a hard time understanding why it is her responsibility to unite the party. Or Bill&#039;s either for that matter. She can&#039;t fix the problem. Only Obama could do that and he hasn&#039;t shown any inclination to reach out to anyone in her base. Where does it end. You can see by the post below, Undercover, how little respect is given her. I am not a delegate so I don&#039;t have to make any decision about what I am willing to do to help Obama or the DNC with this farce. I want to continue to help her pay off her debt because I know she continued her campaign to the end for us and I don&#039;t want to be selfish and only consider how I felt when she had to face more every day of the primaries than I could possibly understand. She would have been the best choice for VP. It would have helped unite the Party whether I personally wanted her to run on a ticket with him or not. She said publically several times she would serve in that capacity if asked to do so, yet she was not formally &quot;vetted&quot;. Do you think she will ever be given another chance? I doubt it myself. I believe she has resigned herself to do what she can in the senate or maybe a cabinet post, although I doubt he will offer that either. In a normal world, she would be given an opportunity to fight for her delegates and super delegates on the convention floor instead of having to negociate her speech. What has happened to the party that delegates have been put in the position where their voices are silenced by threats and intimidation and they are expected to support the lie? I would rather they pick up their signs and walk off the floor of the convention and not give it ligitmacy by their participartion, but I understand for Hillary why that can&#039;t be done. But, my vote is my own, I have so much respect for her and admiration, that I would not be able to say no if she asked for anything thing else. I am so very sorry for the loss of your friend. I hope you will find comfort in memeories and support of your other friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan, we love Hillary in our house and we don&#8217;t want to embarrass her or make things more difficult for her, but I am having a hard time understanding why it is her responsibility to unite the party. Or Bill&#8217;s either for that matter. She can&#8217;t fix the problem. Only Obama could do that and he hasn&#8217;t shown any inclination to reach out to anyone in her base. Where does it end. You can see by the post below, Undercover, how little respect is given her. I am not a delegate so I don&#8217;t have to make any decision about what I am willing to do to help Obama or the DNC with this farce. I want to continue to help her pay off her debt because I know she continued her campaign to the end for us and I don&#8217;t want to be selfish and only consider how I felt when she had to face more every day of the primaries than I could possibly understand. She would have been the best choice for VP. It would have helped unite the Party whether I personally wanted her to run on a ticket with him or not. She said publically several times she would serve in that capacity if asked to do so, yet she was not formally &#8220;vetted&#8221;. Do you think she will ever be given another chance? I doubt it myself. I believe she has resigned herself to do what she can in the senate or maybe a cabinet post, although I doubt he will offer that either. In a normal world, she would be given an opportunity to fight for her delegates and super delegates on the convention floor instead of having to negociate her speech. What has happened to the party that delegates have been put in the position where their voices are silenced by threats and intimidation and they are expected to support the lie? I would rather they pick up their signs and walk off the floor of the convention and not give it ligitmacy by their participartion, but I understand for Hillary why that can&#8217;t be done. But, my vote is my own, I have so much respect for her and admiration, that I would not be able to say no if she asked for anything thing else. I am so very sorry for the loss of your friend. I hope you will find comfort in memeories and support of your other friends.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/4369/this-is-about-friendship/#comment-604068</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 08:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What gave you that impression?

Was it the impressive investigative journalism and rigourous vetting that he has been subjected to by the MSM?

Or was it the resistance to allowing him to steal the nomination and game the caucus system by the DNC?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What gave you that impression?</p>
<p>Was it the impressive investigative journalism and rigourous vetting that he has been subjected to by the MSM?</p>
<p>Or was it the resistance to allowing him to steal the nomination and game the caucus system by the DNC?</p>
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		<title>By: Undercover Black Man</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/4369/this-is-about-friendship/#comment-603633</link>
		<dc:creator>Undercover Black Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 05:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Add Bill Kristol and Bill Bennett to the list of right-wing subverters who say Obama should&#039;ve chosen Hillary.

Of course, if he had, the right would be unloading on Bill and Hillary right now like they&#039;ve never unloaded before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Add Bill Kristol and Bill Bennett to the list of right-wing subverters who say Obama should&#8217;ve chosen Hillary.</p>
<p>Of course, if he had, the right would be unloading on Bill and Hillary right now like they&#8217;ve never unloaded before.</p>
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		<title>By: Ai1een</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/4369/this-is-about-friendship/#comment-603409</link>
		<dc:creator>Ai1een</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 04:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes - I agree mimi - I&#039;m boycotting the entire Dem. Convention - can&#039;t even stomach it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes &#8211; I agree mimi &#8211; I&#8217;m boycotting the entire Dem. Convention &#8211; can&#8217;t even stomach it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ai1een</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/4369/this-is-about-friendship/#comment-603375</link>
		<dc:creator>Ai1een</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 04:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan - 
I am TRULY sorry for the loss of your dear friend...politics gets put into perspective when such an event happens and I thank you for everything you do he 

Respectfully,I see McCain&#039;s ad &quot;Passed Over&quot; in a different perspective from what you have voiced here.  

Yes, this will be an incredibly hard week for Hillary, and she is having to do and say things that, frankly, I know in her heart of hearts she believes is bogus BS...but she will do if for the &quot;good&quot; of the party.  (I disagree with Hillary choice to enable the Democratic Party this way b/c to enable is to keep them in this broken state - never forcing them to fix the problem). 

HOWEVER, most importantly, McCain&#039;s ad gives voice to the crux of what Hillary DID say in the campaign and FRANKLY what she ABSOLUTELY DOES believe.  She didn&#039;t just STOP believing these statements just because the Rules and Bylaws Committee illegally and disgustingly tied up Michigan and Florida&#039;s delegates with a boy and  handed them to Obama. 

Therefore, I believe with everything in me that McCain&#039;s ad running this week gives voice to Hillary&#039;s true beliefs - beliefs that she is  UNABLE to say at this time because of her role in  &quot;taking one for the team&quot;.  Down deep - I&#039;ll bet she&#039;s grateful as HELL for this ad and to John McCain. 

As far as Hillary supporters voicing that they will vote McCain - I see nothing wrong in this.  We are all Americans.  We love Hillary, but in the end, she is not our puppeteer.  Our vote is our individual choice and, therefore, is not a reflection on Hillary.  If Hillary is no longer in the running - we have a right to choose our personal conscience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan &#8211;<br />
I am TRULY sorry for the loss of your dear friend&#8230;politics gets put into perspective when such an event happens and I thank you for everything you do he </p>
<p>Respectfully,I see McCain&#8217;s ad &#8220;Passed Over&#8221; in a different perspective from what you have voiced here.  </p>
<p>Yes, this will be an incredibly hard week for Hillary, and she is having to do and say things that, frankly, I know in her heart of hearts she believes is bogus BS&#8230;but she will do if for the &#8220;good&#8221; of the party.  (I disagree with Hillary choice to enable the Democratic Party this way b/c to enable is to keep them in this broken state &#8211; never forcing them to fix the problem). </p>
<p>HOWEVER, most importantly, McCain&#8217;s ad gives voice to the crux of what Hillary DID say in the campaign and FRANKLY what she ABSOLUTELY DOES believe.  She didn&#8217;t just STOP believing these statements just because the Rules and Bylaws Committee illegally and disgustingly tied up Michigan and Florida&#8217;s delegates with a boy and  handed them to Obama. </p>
<p>Therefore, I believe with everything in me that McCain&#8217;s ad running this week gives voice to Hillary&#8217;s true beliefs &#8211; beliefs that she is  UNABLE to say at this time because of her role in  &#8220;taking one for the team&#8221;.  Down deep &#8211; I&#8217;ll bet she&#8217;s grateful as HELL for this ad and to John McCain. </p>
<p>As far as Hillary supporters voicing that they will vote McCain &#8211; I see nothing wrong in this.  We are all Americans.  We love Hillary, but in the end, she is not our puppeteer.  Our vote is our individual choice and, therefore, is not a reflection on Hillary.  If Hillary is no longer in the running &#8211; we have a right to choose our personal conscience.</p>
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		<title>By: Ai1een</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ai1een</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 04:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Undercover Black Man - 
What you say is not true. Like atheletes, politicians and political junkies can have a sincere respect for someone even if their political viewpoints differ. Throughout the entire primary season, Pat Buchanan spoke quite highly of Hillary Clinton and Rudy Giuliani has had a deep respect for her and has spoken out publicly for Senator Clinton especially since 9/11.  As far as Sean Hannity, he, like Joe Scarborough, grew to have a deep respect for Clinton&#039;s strength and passion and all three have a RIGHT to say something - that&#039;s they&#039;re job, just like we, unfortunately, have to listen to Donna Brazile and Dick Morris give their points of view as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Undercover Black Man &#8211;<br />
What you say is not true. Like atheletes, politicians and political junkies can have a sincere respect for someone even if their political viewpoints differ. Throughout the entire primary season, Pat Buchanan spoke quite highly of Hillary Clinton and Rudy Giuliani has had a deep respect for her and has spoken out publicly for Senator Clinton especially since 9/11.  As far as Sean Hannity, he, like Joe Scarborough, grew to have a deep respect for Clinton&#8217;s strength and passion and all three have a RIGHT to say something &#8211; that&#8217;s they&#8217;re job, just like we, unfortunately, have to listen to Donna Brazile and Dick Morris give their points of view as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Taj</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/4369/this-is-about-friendship/#comment-603183</link>
		<dc:creator>Taj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 03:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really? You think Hillary&#039;s gonna need Obama&#039;s former supporters in 2012? I say this with all sincerety.

My reasoning is this: Hillary can bank on 18 million votes in 2012. Then there is Obama&#039;s 17 million some voters. They are not gonna coalesce around one candidate in the next election; some will go for Hillary, and others for people like John Edwards, Bill Richardson, and Chris Dodd.

So with at least 20 million people supporting her in 2012, she will have no real opposition and sweep the primaries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really? You think Hillary&#8217;s gonna need Obama&#8217;s former supporters in 2012? I say this with all sincerety.</p>
<p>My reasoning is this: Hillary can bank on 18 million votes in 2012. Then there is Obama&#8217;s 17 million some voters. They are not gonna coalesce around one candidate in the next election; some will go for Hillary, and others for people like John Edwards, Bill Richardson, and Chris Dodd.</p>
<p>So with at least 20 million people supporting her in 2012, she will have no real opposition and sweep the primaries.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna Brazile</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/4369/this-is-about-friendship/#comment-603071</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna Brazile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 03:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yo under the covers:

And he targeted clueless boobs like you!

Stop the hate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yo under the covers:</p>
<p>And he targeted clueless boobs like you!</p>
<p>Stop the hate!</p>
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		<title>By: Undercover Black Man</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/4369/this-is-about-friendship/#comment-603037</link>
		<dc:creator>Undercover Black Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 03:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;As and AA you should be livid that they chose the most politically incompetent boob they could find.&lt;/em&gt;

Well, Greg... Obama certainly wasn&#039;t incompetent when it came to putting together a campaign organization. And raising money from small donors. And inspiring crowds. And out-strategizing Team Clinton to a fare-thee-well.

Give credit where it&#039;s due.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>As and AA you should be livid that they chose the most politically incompetent boob they could find.</em></p>
<p>Well, Greg&#8230; Obama certainly wasn&#8217;t incompetent when it came to putting together a campaign organization. And raising money from small donors. And inspiring crowds. And out-strategizing Team Clinton to a fare-thee-well.</p>
<p>Give credit where it&#8217;s due.</p>
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		<title>By: Taj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 03:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And people call us secret Republicans! Yeah right.

I&#039;m still not voting for Obama, but McCain&#039;s ad does upset me, for the very reasons Susan mentioned in her article. I agree with the ad, but I feel like when Obama loses (there&#039;s no &quot;ifs&quot; about it) some people will point to this ad and say &quot;See? It&#039;s Hillary&#039;s fault!&quot;

But by November or (even more importantly) 2021, Obama will be tarnished by much more than stuff like this. The 527&#039;s will wipe the floor with him, and this Hillary ad will be forgotten.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And people call us secret Republicans! Yeah right.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still not voting for Obama, but McCain&#8217;s ad does upset me, for the very reasons Susan mentioned in her article. I agree with the ad, but I feel like when Obama loses (there&#8217;s no &#8220;ifs&#8221; about it) some people will point to this ad and say &#8220;See? It&#8217;s Hillary&#8217;s fault!&#8221;</p>
<p>But by November or (even more importantly) 2021, Obama will be tarnished by much more than stuff like this. The 527&#8242;s will wipe the floor with him, and this Hillary ad will be forgotten.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 03:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and I thought people were too smart to fall for Obama&#039;s manipulations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and I thought people were too smart to fall for Obama&#8217;s manipulations.</p>
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		<title>By: Ohio Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ohio Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 03:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, it&#039;s not an embarrassment to Clinton, she is not responsible for the actions of McCain.  She did what she was supposed to do and pushed back against the Ad.    

As I mentioned before, if Obama had picked Clinton they would have some other Ad out today, that&#039;s easy to see.  

My point was McCain&#039;s obvious attempt to manipulate Clinton supporters seemed to be working, strange, I though they were smarter than falling for such a obvious ploy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, it&#8217;s not an embarrassment to Clinton, she is not responsible for the actions of McCain.  She did what she was supposed to do and pushed back against the Ad.    </p>
<p>As I mentioned before, if Obama had picked Clinton they would have some other Ad out today, that&#8217;s easy to see.  </p>
<p>My point was McCain&#8217;s obvious attempt to manipulate Clinton supporters seemed to be working, strange, I though they were smarter than falling for such a obvious ploy.</p>
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