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Obama Just Don’t Know When to Shut Up

If the first rule of crisis management is, “If you’re in a hole stop digging,” then we may be seeing the corollary for politics–i.e., when you pass an unpopular policy stop talking about it.

No matter how much lipstick Obama smears on his turd of a healthcare plan, most people don’t want to kiss it or embrace it. Dump it? Oh yeah.

So what does Barack “Magic Man” Obama do?

He keeps telling folks what a swell plan it is, except he doesn’t know when to stop flapping his gums.

According to the Washington Post (this is shocking):

Even by President Obama’s loquacious standards, an answer he gave here on health care Friday was a doozy.

Toward the end of a question-and-answer session with workers at an advanced battery technology manufacturer, a woman named Doris stood to ask the president whether it was a “wise decision to add more taxes to us with the health care” package.

“We are overtaxed as it is,” Doris said bluntly.

Obama started out feisty. “Well, let’s talk about that, because this is an area where there’s been just a whole lot of misinformation, and I’m going to have to work hard over the next several months to clean up a lot of the misapprehensions that people have,” the president said.

He then spent the next 17 minutes and 12 seconds lulling the crowd into a daze. His discursive answer — more than 2,500 words long — wandered from topic to topic, including commentary on the deficit, pay-as-you-go rules passed by Congress, Congressional Budget Office reports on Medicare waste, COBRA coverage, the Recovery Act and Federal Medical Assistance Percentages (he referred to this last item by its inside-the-Beltway name, “F-Map”). He talked about the notion of eliminating foreign aid (not worth it, he said). He invoked Warren Buffett, earmarks and the payroll tax that funds Medicare (referring to it, in fluent Washington lingo, as “FICA”).

Keep talking Barack, keep talking. You are building support alright, but it is support for those who want to repeal your disaster.

That’s not my opinion, rather that appears to be the opinion of a growing number of Americans. Scott Rasmussen reports:

Voters now trust Republicans more than Democrats on nine out of 10 key issues regularly tracked by Rasmussen Reports, but the gap between the two parties has grown narrower on several of them.

Following the passage of the health care bill, 53% now say they trust Republicans on the issue of health care. Thirty-seven percent (37%) place their trust in Democrats. A month earlier, the two parties were essentially even on the health care issue.

These results are consistent with the finding that 54% of voters want the health care bill repealed. Rasmussen Reports is tracking support for repeal on a weekly basis. Still, health care ranks just number five among voters on the list of 10 important issues. The economy remains the top issue of voter concern as it has been for over years.

On the economy, Republicans are trusted more by 49% while Democrats are preferred by 37%. That’s a big improvement for the GOP following a five-point advantage last month. More voters who make under $20,000 annually trust Democrats on this issue, but voters who earn more than that favor Republicans.

This looks increasingly like Barack Obama’s MISSION ACCOMPLISHED moment. Touting a victory that most reject is the kind of foolish, stubborness that George Bush practiced. Looks like Barack, as Reverend Amy noted in an earlier piece, wants to be like George.

  • blue collar hoosier

    the fact the man is incaple of giving a direct answer (on anything) should have been a huge red flag long ago.

  • tango

    He talks too much. So much that listeners just tune him out. And when they try to ask him a direct question or interupt him trying to get him back on track, he gets all irritated and says stuff like “let me be clear”,  then spends the next 10 minutes being anthing but clear as he gives the verbal runaround again.

    I don’t think Obama knows exactly what’s in the health care bill and what he does know, that isn’t good for taxpayers, he doesn’t care about. It’ll never affect him since he’s rich enough to pay any additional taxes and has great health care now and until he dies.

  • Diana L. C.

    I read about this 17-minute discourse and was soooo glad I didn’t have to listen to it.

    If he had ever been able to clearly justify that horrible bill, he would have done it by now.  Really makes me angry that he an Nancy think that mumbling on and on about it after the fact will clear things up and make us all happy—-yes siree, like rubbing salt in an open wound.

    So glad I just listened to Hillary talk on RRRA’s post below.  It makes me feel a little safer to know there is ONE ADULT in this administration.

  • Onofre’s arm

    Brevity is the soul of wit. and Obama is a witless soul.

  • confused American

    His polls are going down, more background information coming out and even his wife seems to be slipping up in her speeches.  Home Country of Kenya?????
    http://www.examiner.com/x-37620-Conserv … ama-resume

  • Patience

    IMO if his continuing campaign for HC legislation results in less and less support, I hope he keeps talking ’til the cows come home.

    Congratulations Butler University (my mother-in-law’s alma mater) for making it all the way to the NCAA championship!!!  Wow, what a game — sure a lot better than Duke/WVA…

  • Patience

    I hope he keeps talking ’til the cows come home too Larry if his salesmanships remains this effective.  As he said recently, Bring It On!

    Congratulations Butler University (my mother-in-law’s alma mater) for making it all the way to the NCAA championship!!!  Wow, what a game.  It was sure a lot better than Duke/WVA…

  • FrenchNail

    Obamacare has never been about HealthCare. It has always been about Obama’s legacy and place in History. He does not care a bit about what it is all about. He only care it is OBAMAcare.

    This guy will never be able to run for a second term (Eligibility issues) so he is trying everything and anything to be the president of Change. The one who will have fundamentaly transformed America.

    He does not care about the consequences on the People, on the Democrat Party (The joke’s on them!), on America political, financial or physical health. HE DOES NOT CARE!!!.

    It is all about HIM, HIM and only HIM.

  • Patience

    I hope he keeps talking ’til the cows come home too Larry if his salesmanship remains this effective.  As he said recently, Bring It On! 
     
    Congratulations Butler University (my mother-in-law’s alma mater) for making it all the way to the NCAA championship!!!  Wow, what a game.  It was sure a lot better than Duke/WVA…

  • Patience

    OMG, when did she say this (your link doesn’t work)?

  • HC123

    This reminded me of Gaddafi at the UN. Obama seriously likes to hear himself talk.

  • Onofre’s arm

    Or the fact that he was raised by, and surrounded by Marxists, should have been a huge RED flag. However, when many of us pointed this out we were shouted down, called racists, and scoffed at as right wing loonies. Maybe 69 million want Marxism in America, and they truly want a central government monitoring and controlling every aspect of their lives. If this is the case, they certainly picked the right guy!

  • FrenchNail

    You need to read the Framer’s reference newly discovered about the definition of Natural Born Citizen.

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/04/02/founder-and-historian-david-ramsay-defines-natural-born-citizen-in-1789/

    The irony of this Administration strategy of ridicule visavis the “Birthers” is that by delaying the invitable, they are giving the eligibility researchers plenty of time to accumulate proof.

  • FrenchNail

    Go to thepostemail.com they have the link. And yes she says it at the 40 second mark.

  • nickoury
  • confused American

    Sorry about that guys and thanks Nick

  • confused American

    She did really say that but if you look at the written transcript its not there …its already safely stored on other places if this is another white wash by the Obama people.

  • confused American

    He can’t even read off a Teleprompter decently either.

  • I’m a Linda too

    And CBS has Obama at his lowest approval numbers, 44 pct.

    ….”All Fired Up, Ready to go”…..to the polls to vote Democrats out!

  • jwrjr

    Maybe I am missing something.  Last I heard, “FICA” is Social Security, not Medicare.  BTW, did Ozero ever answer Doris’ question?

  • confused American

    Great Article on what is happening with the press at the WH….Hey we all knew they were kissing a lot of Azz already…
    “What I have learned after discussions over the last several days with several journalists who either have regular access to the White House or are part of the White House press corps is that there is a growing sense that access is traded for positive stories — or perhaps worse, an agreement that things learned will not be reported in the near term
    http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/2010/04/communications/  “

  • jwrjr

    Obama being unable to give an answer of less that ten minutes to a “yes or no” question instantly raised my suspicion.

  • jwrjr

    According to Dorothy Parker brevity is the soul of lingerie.

  • TeakWoodKite

    “First, let’s see who is isolated. We think those who can’t show up publicly among the people and directly address them are isolated – those who fear nations. Gentlemen go to a country where they have 60,000 troops without any prior announcement. Who is isolated?” Ahmadinejad said.
     
    Dinner Jacket has a point, but misses the larger issue. BO can “show up publicly among the people and directly address them.” ,  but his audience ain’t buying.

    LBJ, I am not sure it will be his” Mission Accomplished moment”, since the velocity of his “jaw flapping” is increasing geometrically. Our friends, our allies and even our enemy’s do NOT take him seriously. I believe this to be very dangerous and precious “misapprehension” to find our selves in.

  • Buzzlatte

    Why did my “I knew it!” lightbulb just go off?  Keep digging, brave souls!  

  • I’m a Linda too

    Correct you are.  Please tell me Obama didn’t say this, and only the reporter got it wrong.

  • TeakWoodKite
  • TeakWoodKite

    OH Fudge! Boy if that wasn’t a tire in the acedemic sense!

  • politicsisdirty

    17 minutes? The corrupt main stream media said it was only 1.7 minutes.

  • No Longer Banned in Beantown

    O’blowhard has gotten such a swollen head that he thinks he sounds coherant without ‘ole trusty TOTUS. I guess that can happen when people like Biden and Pelosi tell you day after day how f’ing great you are.

    Meanwhile the general public has begun to understand the real meaning of his BS.

  • ~~JustMe~~
  • Tex-Mex Soup

    hmmmm can’t wait to hear the spin on this one from the obots.

    Its safe to assume she meant baracks daddies home country

  • Tex-Mex Soup

    hmmmm can’t wait to hear the spin on this one from the obots. 
     
    Its safe to assume they will say she meant baracks daddies home country

  • Tex-Mex Soup

    hmmmm can’t wait to hear the spin on this one from the obots. 
     
    Its safe to assume she meant baracks daddies home country

  • No Longer Banned in Beantown

    “citizenship by inheritance belongs to none but the children of those Americans, who, having survived the Declaration of Independence, acquired that adventitious character in their own right, and transmitted it to their offspring….” Id. at 7. He continued that citizenship “as a natural right, belongs to none but those who have been born of citizens”

    The plural CITIZENS is a requirement that I had not heard before.

    “Natural Born” as the Founders intended, required that BOTH parents be citizens. It does not matter WHERE Obama was born, just whether both parents were U.S. Citizens.

    Obama is a citizen, just not a “Natural Born” citizen.

  • No Longer Banned in Beantown

    Ronald Reagan – The Great Communicator
    Barack Obama – The Great Fabricator

  • confused American

    Someone posted  an “”Open Letter to Republican Tea Party Members”  from some site called “Gunfighter: A Modern Warrior’s Life”

    http://gunfighter1.typepad.com/warrior/2010/03/open-letter-to-republican-tea-party-members.html

    Letter is kind of interesting, but what was more interesting is the site’s design, especially considering that so many are calling the tea party a threatening organization.

  • confused American

    Just another misspeak   Tex  ….You know I don’t think I even used or heard the word “Misspeak” prior to Obama.   LOL

  • No Longer Banned in Beantown

    In the second video O’Dumbo claims that Obamacare will save money because it will reduce unnecessary tests.

    He should have shut up right there.

    But O’dumbo can’t help himself.

    He had to give an example of the savings.

    O’Dumbo said that currently, if you go to a doctor, specialist and surgeon for the same malady they will all order the same test. But Obamacare will save money because we will havethe doctors FAX one test to each other.

    Ummm. What?

    I know from personal experience that all three MD’s look at one test, unless the test has not been recent, or there is a worsening of symptoms.

    I recently had hip surgery. I had ONE MRI, and ONE X-Ray. The doctor ordered it, the specialist and surgeon from different offices all over town, looked at the same set of films.

    Unnecessary tests may occur, but that example is not how it happens. It’s just one in a long list of proof that O’Dumbo is clueless.

  • Senneth

    The Landru version – how perfect a description!  Now if only Captain Kirk and the gang could come to our rescue…

  • Jackie

    “Bring Back Pre-Existing Condition Bans!”

    What a slogan that will be!

  • Turbo Tax Timmie

    Unfreakinbelievable. He’s campaigning on how wonderful the bill is and he has never read it? All this campaigning right after the majority of Americans said no to the bill? What is wrong with him and his admin?
    They passed a bill that the country was vehemently opposed to and now he’s touring and bragging in front of teensy tiny audiences (which contains the sum total of who is standing behind him.) This guy is Mad!

  • jbjd

    It does not matter what the Post Email ‘found’ was supposedly meant by a Founder or Drafter.  NBC means nothing until a federal appeals court says, this is what it means.  And anyway, the Constitution does not require Electors to vet the person they elect for President, as to Constitutional eligibility. But citizens in some states have passed laws requiring these Electors must votte for the candidate nominated by the party.

  • jbjd

    “O’Dumbo said that currently, if you go to a doctor, specialist and surgeon for the same malady they will all order the same test. But Obamacare will save money because we will havethe doctors FAX one test to each other. ”

    But you missed the second part of that statement.  He said, ‘…or all 3 (three) doctors are in the room when the test is done.’

  • jbjd

    “O’Dumbo said that currently, if you go to a doctor, specialist and surgeon for the same malady they will all order the same test. But Obamacare will save money because we will havethe doctors FAX one test to each other. “ 
     
    But you missed the second part of that statement.  He said, “…or have all 3 (three) doctors in the room when the test is being taken.”

  • No Longer Banned in Beantown

    I did not miss it. i just did not include it.

    But, you are right – O’Dumbo says he will have all three in the same room when the test is being taken.

    Now how is that going to lower costs? Have all three MD’s in the same place for a lab test.

    Come on Obots. Explain how the time and expense of three MD’s in the same room for each patient that needs a lab test is going to save money.

  • jbjd

    “Maybe I am missing something.  Last I heard, “FICA” is Social Security, not Medicare.”

    Yep; he said it.  “Right now, if you’re on salary… you get your salary from Cell Guard or any of the companies around here…you’re paying your Medicare tax on all of that right?  You see it on your…as part of your FICA…”  ‘…but if your source of income is capital gains, you don’t pay “Medicare tax…” 

  • jbjd

    “Maybe I am missing something.  Last I heard, “FICA” is Social Security, not Medicare.” 
     
    Yep; he said it.  “Right now, if you’re on salary… you get your salary from Cell Guard or any of the companies around here…you’re paying your Medicare tax on all of that right?  You see it on your, as part of your FICA…”  ‘…but if your source of income is capital gains, you don’t pay “Medicare tax…”  

    That sentence is a quote:  “You see it on your (pause) as part of your FICA…”

  • jbjd

    IALT, the WaPo tries to get him off the hook.

    “He invoked Warren Buffett, earmarks and the payroll tax that funds Medicare (referring to it, in fluent Washington lingo, as “FICA”).”

  • jbjd

    IALT, the WaPo tries to get him off the hook. 
     
    “He invoked Warren Buffett, earmarks and the payroll tax that funds Medicare (referring to it, in fluent Washington lingo, as FICA”).

  • Guest

    He reminds me of The Great and Powerful Oz, who behind the curtain was just a tiny little nervous man with a fake persona and a nasty bad temper.

    I hope she won’t get the JOE THE PLUMBER MIStreatment!!!!

  • kenoshamarge

    People in love with the sound of their own voice seldom know when to just STFU. Given that trait of Obama and add to it the perception among his merry band of b.s.ers and you have a man who will continue to talk when he should be silent.

    I always thought his ability to communcate was media-hype at best. Now it appears it’s not only not all that wonderful if may actually be causing him harm. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving blabbermouthed bore IMHO.

  • creeper

    Gee, they were slow on that one.  The article was more than halfway done before they hurled the “racist” charge.

  • getfitnow

    Credit to “alternative” media.

    It’s ironic. Praises are heaped on the BO campaign and how skillfully it use the high tech. And yet, remember how they bungled the 3 AM announcement? From that mammonth email list they tried to rally the troops to stomp for “porkulus” and make calls to radio shows for health care. There was no surge. And now the internet, twitter, etc is responsible for exposing these criminals/thugs.

  • JS Ruby

    FrenchNail, I agree with you. It is all about BO, the hell with everyone else. 

  • Steve1

    Yes, and where are his sealed educational transcripts froom Columbia?????  What American president has had his educational records sealed and never rek]leased????  The corporate controlled MSM does not say one word regarding this issue???  Yet they hounded the Clintons during the primaries to release the Cliiknton Foundation financial reords!

    They send hundred s of reporters to investigate Sarah Palin history in Alaska and her educational background!  Did Barry Soetoro even attend any classes while at Columbia????  Where are his professors?  His background is a myh created by the “powers that be!”  In the words of Bill Clinton, “its all a fairy tale!” 

  • Guest

    He rambled because the question made his head explode. I loved that line he gave: “You know it’s a good deal if Congress wants it. They wouldn’t vote for something that’s not a good deal.” Free snake oil for everyone.

    Wish someone would ask him the same question again.

  • Sassy

    Obama Obfuscation is a “BFD”! Our debt hole is now a Chinese cavern.
    Affluent politicians are still “flush”, but the rest of us got an enema!

  • FrenchNail

    jbjd,
     we already have had this discussion, and we have decided to agree to disagree, on the value of the historic definition as yet not directly challenged in front of SCOTUS.

    But, it is not the Post and Email which “discovered” this new reference, it is an anonimous source who gave it to Mario Appuzo, the lawyer involved in Krechner. This reference is now incorporated in the case.

  • Cathy6224

    I agree with you 100%, that is why he still fills his speech venues with supporters only. So he can hear the applause for this abomination of a healthcare.

    Sad thing is, there were things they could have done to fix the specifc problems, but it was about power and control not about healthcare.

  • FrenchNail

    The most plausible explanation on this, is that he was registered as an Indonesian student on US scholarship.

    As for all foreign students, the enrollment standards are not really academics but personality, family background and connections. The main goal of integrating foreing students in the student body, being to expose the American students to other cultures and provide future and valuable connections abroad. In return, the foreign students are provided with a glossy diploma they can add on their resume to gain better jobs and influence once back at home.

    The grading system is different and attendance not always required. Some classes are only open to foreign students (easier) and others (most required by the American students) are closed to them. It is a separate system and curriculum within the system.

    It may also be the time of a possible US secret services agency recruitment.

  • FrenchNail

    When you know he was handpicked by Reid, you know it all!!!!

  • tango

    Sorry Obama someone needs to ask you, if it’s such a great deal, how come some Congress people and their staffs are exempt? 

  • Obamastolemyparty,myboyfriend,mycountryandmyhealthcare

    I don’t think any bill Obama has signed is legal anyway.  I believe his real legal name is BARRY SOETORO!  No one can find evidence of a legal name change, anywhere!  There are several people looking.  The birther’s should focus on his legal name and not a birth certificate, IMHO.

    And did he really say “misapprehension”, I had to look it up and it is a real word, but boy didn’t it bring back to mind Bush’s “misunderestimate” that was made fun of for years!

  • Guest

    As Doc Holliday said, “It would appear that the strain was more than he could bear.”

    How about random drug testing for the President of the United States? Hey, it’s a pretty important job. . . Is it him talking or a combination of factors? Stress plus who knows what. . . in fact, drug testing not a bad idea for Congress too. . Hey Nancy. . .:D

    Seriously, at the very least, I do think he’s on meds.

  • Armymom

    Actually, I see it as the Obots wanting to bring back the pre-existing condition ban. They tout this healthcare bill as the same thing as “car insurance”. Name me one car insurance out there that pays for your wrecked car, when you didn’t have insurance on it? In other words, i can’t go out and wreck my car and then call up the insurance company to get coverage on it. So I see it as the Obots wanting to ban pre-existing conditions based on the car insurance rules.

  • FLDemFem

    He cares about Health Reform because it was the Clinton’s project, and he will do anything to beat them. He just wants to be “better” than Bill Clinton, and Hillary, something that will never happen because he doesn’t have the brains or the education to get the job done. So he farms out the HCR to Congress and then bullies through a pork-laden bill that does nothing but impose burdens on the American taxpayer while giving free health care to people who don’t pay into the system. So now he can claim that he got something done that the Clintons tried and failed to do. I just wonder if he will be as willing to reach across the aisle as Bill was when he got a Republican Congress at the mid-term elections. We will see if he is, my political antennae say that he will have a Republican Congress after November.

  • jbjd

    FN, we have not “decided to agree to disagree.”  Here I am on the one side, trying to educate there is no definition of NBC without a court ruling in a case directly on point; and there are you and millions of others as passionate as you on the other side, mistaking passion for persuasive fact-based sound jurisprudential argument.  This latter tack continues to dilute my efforts, and earn ridicule on popular shows like the Colbert Report, as seen on this video, less than 1 minute in.  http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/2009/07/29/colbert-interviews-birther-lawyer-orly-taitz/

  • AC

    Jbjd,
    You seem to think that definitions did not exist and do not exist before a court accepts it.  Words and definitions did exist before courts.
     Has it escaped your attention that you treat this blogg as a classroom with commenter as your students.
    You don’t want to agree to disagree fine, but quit with treating others here as uneducated.

    We already understand your definition of “persons” or do you forget that you supported that outlandish ridiculous decision of the Supreme Court.

    The world existed without Lawyers and Shakespeare had a point!

  • Peggy Sue

    I’ve come to the conclusion that Obama and his dwindling army of supporters are like a TV soap opera.  You can be away for a month, switch on the channel and nothing much has happened. The characters are as flawed and weak as before you left and the plotline is still tired and predictable.

    Same old, same old.

    Maybe the lo-o-o-g, convoluted answers are intended to bore the public into submission.  The really stunning part is that for all the words and meandering, the President ultimately says very little. In fact, he doesn’t seem to know very much. It’s always the same BS, as if he truly believes that saying this healthcare package is historic and wonderful will make it so.

    Magical thinking.  Which is pretty much what electorate was given during the primaries and GE.

    The man is not primetime material.  Never was, never will be.  He can flap his lips until the end of time.  This is not leadership.  It’s pure hype.

    And utterly disasterous.

  • Guest

    Go to the Washington Post story about this incident and read the comments. Scathing, and very interesting. He overstepped to such an extent it feels like a genuine turning point to me.

    An vastly inappropriately length, rambling answer is the hallmark of Socialist Dictators and other tyrants throughout history.
    Study any one of them. Stalin, Hitler, Kim Jung Il, Castro, Pol Pot, Hussein, any leader of a repressive society. This type of overly long rambling response is quite simply bizarre in American culture. This is the type of thing that we see in foreign cultures. Not seen in America from a president. Americans expect their president to be short, spot-on, and directly to the point. Americans quickly spot someone who doesn’t have an answer and is trying to BS them. Obama has been exposed.”

    I think there is going to be an incident that will trigger a showdown and something is going to give…one way or other.

    I can’t see him finishing his term.

    He is going to have a miserable rest of his life.

  • My other site

    “You don’t know what you got”  Gosh, it’s wonderful to have these presidents who can’t speak proper English.  I guess they think that endears them to the peasants they reign over.

  • Arky

    Drug testing the Government? Hell yes!  If a stock clerk at Wal-mart  or a janitor has to pass a drug test, why not Congress and the Prez??

  • confused American

    Did you notice the back drop on the website of the “Gunfighter”
    Looks a bit like some “Dirty Harry” picture…

    I’m wondering who are the Threatening ones?

  • I’m a Linda too

    GEEZ, OMG, Obama, just resign now and save us all…..a LOT!

  • confused American

    Would love the link for the information on some being exempt Please…

    Such a shame that some will not have to buy into what everyone else will have to.

  • I’m a Linda too

    jbjd, got it!

  • jbjd

    AC, you cannot have it both ways.  I am asked for my opinion here (and on other blogs), by both contributers and commenters.  Often, I am asked to weigh in on issues of first impression.  I would assume that those requesting my opinion find my analysis helpful in sorting out the issues for themselves. So, if you choose to learn from me, read my comments.  If not, pass them by.  (And by all means, avoid reading my blog.) But reading my comments and then accepting my input only when you agree with their content; and rejecting not only my analysis but also the fact I have offered input, when you disagree, is hypocritical.

    The Constitution is a legal document, which creates rights and obligations enforceable in courts of law.  Thankfully, in our Constitutional Republic, getting at what the words in that legal document mean, is attempted not by weighing the majority rule but by disciplined legal analysis.

  • Onofre’s arm

    How did 30 million uninsured, more than half of whom could afford insurance but chose not to buy it, suddenly change to 50 million overnight? Sounds suspiciously like he just added 20 million illegals to the equation. Poor Joe Wilson, he was pilloried for speaking the truth when he said “You lie!” when Obama told a joint gathering of congress that illegals weren’t covered in his bill.

    The real thing to marvel over isn’t that Obama can spend 17 minutes and 2500 words to dodge answering a simple question, the true feat is that he can string together a series of lies that wastes 2500 words and 17 minutes of our lives.

  • I’m a Linda too

    I do know the 3 Seniors in Miami area in my family that voted for Weary Barry did NOT believe he was Marxist/Socialist, they are old and always voted Democrat.  Maybe we youngins’ can still teach our more experienced a few things.  One of which is believe your intuition and party does not make the man…or in this case, symbol.

    They ALL are complaining now about the Coward in Command.

  • confused American

    Don’t know how to download this. 

    Has anyone seen the video interview of Rep. Cleaver about the spitting incident????? 

    Interesting, almost contradiction of what is being said out there….He claims to have never talked to anyone about  it….Interesting none the less.
    http://www.fox4kc.com/news/politics/wdaf-story-cleaver-spitting-033010,0,2660745.story

  • Onofre’s arm

    Ignorance of the lout is no excuse!  ;)

  • jbjd

    AC wrote to me, “We already understand your definition of “persons” or do you forget that you supported that outlandish ridiculous decision of the Supreme Court.”  

    You mislead readers into mistakenly believing, this latest court decision touching on campaign financing found that, corporations are people.  IT DID NO SUCH THING.  The decision holding corporations are ‘people’ was only quoted in this latest decision.  This latest decision only clarified the time/manner restrictions on political speech.

  • jbjd

    NLBIB, I have found no evidence in the public record that establishes BO is a citizen, let alone natural born.

  • AnnieCarmel

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgOZu_KcVi4

    YouTube – The Post-American Bandstand with Pat BooneHe’s the President who’s always got something to say and somewhere new to say it . On Pat Boone’s Post-American Bandstand, they’re celebrating him with a song

  • Guest

    Who is counting, anway ? Obama for a fourth (?) time has misstated the number of Americans who lack health insurance, First it was 30 million. Then, 15, Then 46. Now it’s “50.” Illegals accounting for, oh around, 10 million or so….

  • confused American

    Would love the link if you have it please.

    It seems that many think that everyone including the President is going to have to buy into the mess Congress created….

    Hey I keep asking that if this is such a good deal then why do the people who supported it the most exempted…like Obama, Reid, Pelosi and ????

  • confused American

    Is that the nice way of saying Liar  Now

  • AnnieCarmel

    I could almost watch this every day! 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgOZu_KcVi4
    YouTube – The Post-American Bandstand with Pat BooneHe’s the President who’s always got something to say and somewhere new to say it . On Pat Boone’s Post-American Bandstand, they’re celebrating him with a song

  • confused American

    Wasn’t one of the jokes going around about GW his poor grades….

    Yet we don’t even know Obama’s grades Strange….

  • Kathleen Wynne

    Yes, obama is definitely a narcissist and his ego is very much a part of his ad nauseum in explaining the HC bill to us lesser beings.  But I think this is bigger than BO.  Much bigger.  The power elite chose him thinking that he would be their “salesman-in-chief” in selling their agenda to the American people. 

    I’m certain those behind the scenes who pull the strings of power never expected the American people to wake up as quickly as we have and begin to question THE ONE to the point that, except for those who chose to be totally blind to who he really is, we are fighting back.

    This is the last thing they wanted to happen and may well be the undoing of the obama presidency.  We can only hope that he serves only one term and that the people NEVER fall asleep at the wheel again and vote for an image.

  • confused American

    I keep wondering if Obama is out to beat all the presidential records….For its looking like Obama will beat out GW’s lowest approval rating status in just one term
     
    Adding to the above we so far have First black President,   Only illegal president according to our constitution, President with the most CZARS,  and ?????  
     
    Ok guys help me out some  — I bet you can come up with a few more presidential records he has broken….

  • Scranton4Hillary

    As I’ve said many times before..,.every time the Emperor speaks, he weakens the nation.  Think about it.

  • confused American

    hopefully its on tape or the printed version will be edited later like Michelle’s slip about Obama’s home country.

  • Onofre’s arm

    Is that why they’re called “briefs”?

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Good luck with that, All 3 Drs in a room while the test is taken. Does it even enter his head Drs don’t take blood tests, MRI, x-rays, stress test’s, I don’t often call him anything but he’s a clown (being polite) who I do not need directing my heath care.

  • Required Reading

    This is so interesting — both Larry’s post and many related comments.  My students just finished reading Darkness at Noon and at the end of the book the main character, Rubashov, is giving a speech at his own trial and going on and on at length, saying things that we, the readers, know he doesn’t believe.  And old acquaintance of his hears an account of what Rubashov says at the trial and quotes from the Bible: “But let your communication be Yea, yea; Nay, nay; for whatsoever is more than these commeth of evil” (Matthew, v. 37).  The point: people who lie to you always hem and haw and use far more words than they have to.  The truth is told by using the fewest words possible.  The author Koestler (himself once a committed communist who later denounced communism and wrote this book as a tribute to the dignity of the individual) was trying to say that the communists had learned how to lie when they spoke in public, for instrumental and “historic” reasons. 

  • Not Likely

    I’m similarly terrified that the President can give long substantive answers to questions.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    My god he’s an embarrassment to stand up there and come out with all that gobblydegoop and expect us to think of him as President We are down the river without a paddle. Is there no one else to take the reigns?

  • jbjd

    AC, here is First National Bank of Boston v. Bellotti, the case deciding corporations had 1st Amendment free speech rights, just like people.  Note, this case was decided by the SCOTUS in 1978, more than 30 years ago.
    http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=435&invol=765

    This case was cited in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, with the decision in which case you correctly recall, I agreed.
    http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/08-205.ZS.html

  • Onofre’s arm

    This current blabber tour that he’s on is simple misdirection. It has nothing whatsoever to do with his concern that we understand a bill that even he doesn’t understand. This is the Magician’s trick of capturing your attention with one hand while performing the trick with the other. He’s trying to distract us from the ongoing activities of congress and his administration that are designed to reward his supporters while robbing the rest of us of our money and liberties.

    While we gobble popcorn watching his dodge and phony show, his light fingered pals are quietly picking our pockets. But that’s OK, they’ll use half of the stolen money to buy us more popcorn to keep us sated and happy, and keep the other half as fair compensation for their efforts. Ain’t Big Brother generous!

  • jbjd

    AC, here is First National Bank of Boston v. Bellotti, the case deciding corporations had 1st Amendment free speech rights, just like people.  Note, this case was decided by the SCOTUS in 1978, more than 30 years ago.  
    http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=435&invol=765  
     
    This case was cited in the 2010 case, Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, the name of the case to which you mistakenly credited the finding, corporations are people, and with which mistaken finding you falsely attributed my concurrence.  
    http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/08-205.ZS.html

  • kenoshamarge

    But, but Oblahblah and his supporters are convinced if he just talks at us more we’ll all decide to be happy as pigs in the mud about the government deciding that we have to buy something or else they’ll sic the IRS on our sorry asses.

    1. Even Oblahblah can’t talk enough to convince Americans with a spine that the government has a “right” to tell them what to buy.

    2. The more he talks and talks and talks the less popular the bill becomes.

    3. Didn’t the Dems learn anything at all from watching Bush get sent out on his convince the public tours?

    Do they think Oblahblah is that much more convincing? If so, they’re wrong.

  • confused American

    Realize that this probably fits in this thread better than the new one by Amy.

    Ck out how Obama is now misquoting a past historical Easter piece by a WWII Chaplin….

    What is interesting its the removal by Obama of the name and some references to  ”Jesus Christ” from the original message…Why…

    Obama says he is a Christian yet removes the name and some references to “Jesus Christ” when quoting a Chaplin’s WWII speech.  WHY

    http://www.torenewamerica.com/obama-removes-jesus-from-easter-message

  • Guest

    I agree. The public may start to tune him out and ignore what he does, but it doesn’t doesn’t translate to not noticing when health care spends too much, taxes too much, and increases premimums too much while devaluing care.

  • I’m a Linda too

    Are you taunting us?  lol  uh…Jimmy Carter??!??

    I don’t think he intentionally set out to break those records.  He just can’t help himself. :)

  • confused American

    I think part of the reason many have started tuning Obama out is that they can read it better than he does off the teleprompter.

  • AC

    Jbjd, just like a supposed lawyer to change the subject.  You don’t want to agree to disagree fine but then why don’t you file suit (you may very well have an actionable issue) and put your money where your mouth is instead of admonishing that everyone else is barking up the wrong tree.

    Furthermore I don’t go for that changing the subject thing.  You know exactly what I meant by my comment about the Supreme Court “person” decision as we discussed this back and forth at that time. If corporations are persons then why not prove it by producing a ‘Certificate of live birth’

    As for your two citations to the above: Just because the court got it wrong twice doesn’t mean it was correct.

    Dred Scott and Plessy v. Ferguson are two (of many) decisions that the Supremes erred

    I still think Shakespeare had a point.

  • confused American

    Parents and Teachers have found that the longer the answer the more untruth in it…
     

    What’s most interesting is the longer the answer the more they usually trip up themselves with added contradictions…

     
    I’ve noticed Obama does this in not only contradicts himself within the limitations  of just one speech but in a comparison of his many speeches..the inconsistency mounts up over and over again.
     
    Me thinks Obama does not always remember what he reads from the Teleprompter.

  • confused American

    Parents and Teachers have found that the longer the answer the more untruth in it…
     
     What’s most interesting is the longer the answer the more they usually trip up themselves with added contradictions…
      
    I’ve noticed that it’s not just  within the limitations  of just one speech that Obama contradicts himself. In a comparison of his many speeches..the inconsistency mounts up over and over again, even those spoken about the same subject and very close to one another in time frame.
     
    Me thinks Obama does not always remember what he reads from the Teleprompter.

  • Onofre’s arm

    “Me thinks Obama does not always remember what he reads from the Teleprompter.” 

    I don’t think that Obama even mentally registers what’s on the teleprompter in the first place, he just verbalizes it without thought.

    How many times has he dutifully read the prompter even though it was posting something he’d already said, or posted an obvious inaccuracy, without Obama realizing anything at all wrong with it? 

    The guy is unable to think and speak at the same time, which is a fact abundantly in evidence.

  • confused American

    Thats why I no longer call what Obama does speeches….
    He is just reading, and not very good at that.

  • AnnieCarmel

    Yes, well, he can’t publicly bring Jesus into any dialogue unless he wants to risk a fatwa being put out against him…oh wait, his brothers would know he was giving them a wink-wink especially since he’s communicated his loyalties by his snub of BiBi.  Unless…that was just a cover in case Israel bombs Iran…he can claim it was Bush’s fault…no?  Oh hell, who knows why this son of Alinsky says anything?  You can, of course, watch what he does but then it doesn’t much matter who he reports to because it’s clear that he’s not for the USA.

  • PssttCmere

    We “misunderestimated” how really sneaky he can be and fool his loyal obamarrhoids.  Those of us who are able to read AND comprehend were spared that….unfortunately, we still get dragged down with the ass clowns…

  • FLDemFem

    The most speeches ever by a President, and it’s only his first YEAR!! Imagine the count by the time he is done!

  • PssttCmere

    …or The Great Prevaricator

  • tango

    “D) MEMBERS OF CONGRESS IN THE EXCHANGE-

    (i) REQUIREMENT- Notwithstanding any other provision of law, after the effective date of this subtitle, the only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and congressional staff with respect to their service as a Member of Congress or congressional staff shall be health plans that are-

    (I) created under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act); or

    (II) offered through an Exchange established under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act).

    But as with a lot of legislative matters, the devil is in the details – or in this case, the definitions. As anyone who’s worked on Capitol Hill knows, the personal office staff for a member is governed by different rules than those who work on committees and in the leadership offices.

    It appears from the way this language is written that those staffers NOT in personal offices, such as those working and paid under the committee structure (such as those working for Chairman Henry Waxman) or those working on leadership staff (such as those working for Speaker Nancy Pelosi) would be exempt from these requirements (emphasis added).”

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/03/23/opinion/main6324480.shtml

    Remember how the law was written that some insurance companies figured out how they could still deny coverage to children with pre-existing conditions by choosing not to insure them until 2014?  Remember how Sebillus said that was “not the intent of the law” and pushed to fix that possible loophole right away &/or force health care insurance companies to not even try to decline kids?

    Well funny, how noone is all concerned about this possible loophole not being the intent of the law so feeling like they need to fix that mistake to make sure noone takes advantage. Because we all know, Congress and their staffers are so much more honest and ethical than insurance companies.

  • Jackie

    That made no sense whatsoever.  Literally none.

  • Jackie

    Oh Christ, another RASMUSSEN poll?

    Do you guys even READ any other polls?  Have you noticed that Rasmussen has a consistent anti-Obama variation of at least 10 points off every time?

  • Larry Johnson

    Jackie, you ignorant ass.  How about this (or is CBS run by Rasmussen as well?):

    CBS poll has Obama approval at new low of 44%

    Last week, President Obama signed historic health care reform legislation into law — but his legislative success doesn’t seem to have helped his image with the American public.
     
    The latest CBS News Poll, conducted between March 29 and April 1, found Americans unhappier than ever with Mr. Obama’s handling of health care – and still worried about the state of the economy.

  • Onofre’s arm

    Happy Easter Jackie! It’s only fitting that you have egg on your face today.  :-D

  • lorac

    Those other 20 million uninsured are in states 51-58….

  • confused American

    How about  RCP which is poll averages of all the polls Obama hasn’t been above 50% since November…Current Presidential Rating average at RCP is currently 47.5 % approve and 46.1% disapprove.
    Or one could look at Pollster.com’s apporval averages of all the polls for Obama which have also not shown Obama with an approval average above 50% since November..
    Currently Pollster.com’s Obama approval average is 47.2% approve and 46.5% disapprove.
    However one slices it Obama is not well like anymore and is sliding in the polls, actually of all the presidents Obama has the biggest approval rating slide of any of them since polls first started.
    On both of these poll averages Obama had a negative spread for a few weeks before and after the Health Care signing…Hmmm I wonder if they trying to say something.  Currently Obama is on another downward slide.

  • jbjd

    AC challenges me, “why don’t you file suit (you may very well have an actionable issue) and put your money where your mouth is instead of admonishing that everyone else is barking up the wrong tree.” 

    Because this would be stupid, given that, my mouth is telling people not to file such suits!

    It is precisely filing these frivolous lawsuits that constitutes what you characterize as my claim, people are “barking up the wrong tree.”  Putting my money where my mouth is consists of urging people not to file lawsuits where no cause of action or standing exists; and urging others not to file such ridiculous suits, or to give money to those who would.  Putting my money where my mouth is consists of pleading with my fellow citizens to stop believing in saviours in the form of legal benefactors, when individual citizen activism and education will do the trick. Citizen action could have prevented BO’s name from getting on the state ballot in the first place, had citizens known what our state ballot laws – the same ones we passed – were; and how to challenge getting his name on the ballot in those states that require the name of the candidate may only be printed on the ballot when s/he is eligible for the job. And putting my money where my mouth is consists of researching, drafting, and providing for free, citizen complaints of election fraud to state A’sG, reporting this crime now, after the fact. Because this is and has always been the way for citizens to ‘out’ the fraud that occurred in the 2008 election; and will be the only way to forestall such fraud from happening again.  (Of course, the Republican Party of Texas CAN out BO, in a court of law.)  http://jbjd.wordpress.com/2010/03/29/clowns-left-jokers-right/ http://jbjd.wordpress.com/2010/03/31/clowns-left-jokers-right-2/

  • confused American

    FLDem  dont you mean most Telepromter Readings by a President…..

    Yewwwwwwwww  the thought of that is making my stomach chur a bit

  • Guest

    During the campaign, when every newsperson was referring to him as “cool”, I was looking at him and the word I found myself thinking was “cold”. And, usually, the word “calculating” goes along with that.

    My confirmation came on election night, when he was in Chicago. He came on stage with Michelle and the two girls. They all waved for a bit, and then he sent them backstage while he continued to bask in the glow all by himself. This bothered me immensely. I have been watching politics for years, and I can never, ever remember a candidate sending his family off stage so that he could get all the adulation himself. It was a troubling sight.

  • blogforce one

    Without the teleprompter he now sounds like a fast talking street corner hustler. What a shame it turned out this way for America. The real challenge is the fact that when Socialists and Neo-Communists (Neo-Coms) Like this crew in carge now face the voters they will do the utmost to thwart the constitutional process. They will NEVER relinquish power voluntarily. This may get ugly in the near future folks.

  • confused American

    Thank you so very much—seemed this ole lady’s head could not come up with the right combination to find tha….

  • sybilll

    I had forgotten how much I enjoyed that.  Thanks for the reminder.

  • confused American

    If Larry updates this thread He needs to put this video at the top…
    Thanks Annie

  • sybilll

    Even the beloved Gallup has him at 48%.  http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx
    Happy Easter Jackie. 

  • Kathleen Wynne

    Psstt,

    I believe it was the party leaders and the power elite “misunderestimated” the people’s ability to choose the best person for the presidency!

    As much as the power elite likes to believe that the average citizen cannot be trusted to vote for the candidate who would be most likely to represent the best interests of the majority of the American poeple, the evidence shows that they were wrong AGAIN!  The people did choose the best candidate (Hillary) and the power elite and party leaders chose obama.

    I totally recent being dragged into this mess they had to lie, cheat and steal to make happen.

  • Buzzlatte

    obamarrhoids,  LOL!

  • Steve1

    Jackie, I support your right to speak your mind!  This is America, we still have some freedoms…But man, you are one, screwed cookie!”  What you been smoking?????

  • Ani

    Thanks Larry, for pointing out the CBS poll.  I really don’t know what it is going to take for his strong supporters to wake up to the fact that this legislation is a horror show and the majority of Americans don’t like or want it.  They want health care reform.  Reform could have been ccomplished without this cobbled together hodgepodge of Pelosi and Reid. I can’t say I really know what this 2700 page disaster is supposed to do — except more harm.

  • confused American

    Maybe its the same stuff Obama smokes since he thinks he is such a great leader…

  • Steve1

    At least you can all yourself, “one of the employed in America!”  Granted, underempolyed!….A paid blogger…….

  • Guest

    Show me the College Transcripts!

    http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/03/chicago-law-professor-on-obama-the-professors-hated-him-because-he-was-lazy-unqualified-never-attended-any-of-the-faculty-meetings/

    The highest tenured faculty member at Chicago Law spoke out on Barack Obama saying, “Professors hated him because he was lazy, unqualified, never attended any of the faculty meetings.”
    Doug Ross reported this and more:

    I spent some time with the highest tenured faculty member at Chicago Law a few months back, and he did not have many nice things to say about “Barry.” Obama applied for a position as an adjunct and wasn’t even considered. A few weeks later the law school got a phone call from the Board of Trustees telling them to find him an office, put him on the payroll, and give him a class to teach. The Board told him he didn’t have to be a member of the faculty, but they needed to give him a temporary position. He was never a professor and was hardly an adjunct.

    The other professors hated him because he was lazy, unqualified, never attended any of the faculty meetings, and it was clear that the position was nothing more than a political stepping stool. According to my professor friend, he had the lowest intellectual capacity in the building. He also doubted whether he was legitimately an editor on the Harvard Law Review, because if he was, he would be the first and only editor of an Ivy League law review to never be published while in school (publication is or was a requirement).

  • PssttCmere

    KW….it truly is a bitch!!  >:o

  • WhatNOw

    Congress established that natural born means “child of 2 American Citizens” when there were questions about McCain’s citizenship. This was during the congress that was in session during the primaries. You can do a search on the congressional records to find the exact wording and statements.  

  • Jackie

    “Jackie, you ignorant ass”

    Larry, you are a class act, as always.  It is so funny watching a grown man who is incapable of expressing himself without cursing.  You have the emotional growth of a 12 year old boy.

  • Jackie

    “I can’t see him finishing his term.”

    Never have words been better prepared for consumption.

  • Jackie

    And yet, he’s still by far the most popular politician in America.  Face it folks: EVERYONE is unpopular right now.  But Obama is the LEAST UNPOPULAR.  His ratings are better than any other potential rival.

    Who are you going to run against him in 2012?  Sarah Palin?  Give me a f*cking break.  Mitt Romney?  He’s the precursor to Obamacare!  Tim Pawlenty?  Sorry, I just fell asleep thinking about him.  Mike Huckabee?  I believe he’s busy paroling murderers. 

    Who?  Who you got?  NO ONE! 

    And a presidential election is not a referendum, it is a CHOICE.  A choice between two options, two different people.  And when you pit your joke of a Republican candidate against President Obama–the president who prevented a 2nd Great Depression, passed universal health care, saved the American auto industry, put Sonya Sotomayor on the Supreme Court, signed Lily Ledbetter, kicked the living $hit out of the Taliban…well, that choice is going to be pretty damn easy for the average American, isn’t it? 

    Not for the 15 remaining PUMAs, of course, but for the AVERAGE AMERICAN.

    Obama in 2012, baby!  Woo hoo!

  • Jackie

    Without the teleprompter he now sounds like a fast talking street corner hustler. ”

    And with your “street hustler” take on our first black president, you sound like a racist prick.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Jackie, you’re enough to make a saint swear!

  • Onofre’s arm

    What, you think all “street hustlers” are black, Jackie? Who’s the real racist!

  • Jackie

    Anyone with an IQ over 50 knows what blogforce one meant.  I am sorry you have an IQ below 50.  Here’s a napkin, please wipe off your chin.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Wow I feel a gale force wind about to come through!

  • Buzzlatte

    Well, the truth hurts doesn’t it, Jackie…

    How’s the hydrocephaly working out for you?

  • Buzzlatte

    Jackie, you’re raaaaccccccissssst!

  • Buzzlatte

    Run away, Jackie!  You are breaking out the rhetorical blathering to defend the indefensible.  Go away now while we still think you might have an IQ above 50 as evidenced by your ability to type…not think.

  • Onofre’s arm

    Face it Jackie, you’re the real racist, because you’re so obsessed with it that you spot it when it doesn’t even exist. As long as hypersensitive, race hustling assholes like you exist, there will always be racial tension because it’s all that pathetic steaming piles like you have to rationalize your worthless existence. 

    I did in fact know what blogforce meant, and the picture I got from his description was one of a greasy con man selling stolen watches on the corner. The con mans race was never part of that image until YOU made the blatantly racist remark conflating our grifter President’s race with street hustlers, demonstrating to everyone here what a stinking racist YOU are, because you obviously believe all street hustlers are black. You’re Busted Jackie, so go sign up for some sensitivity classes to rid yourself of that giant racist chip on your shoulder.

  • Patience

    His efforts are only suceeding in lowering his poll numbers.  And this is in spite of the fact that Big, Old Media are still carrying water for him.  Interesting. 

  • Patience

    His efforts are only succeeding in lowering his poll numbers.  And this in spite of Big, Old Media carrying water for him.  Interesting.

  • Patience

    Here’s a Daily Beast item by Lloyd Grove reporting about how the WH is shutting out the MSM and setting up shop itself in order to — wait for it — fulfill the promise of transparency and get its message out!

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-04-03/death-of-the-white-house-press-corps/

    Such shocking ingratitude towards the POTUS’ enablers!  They’re being put out of business by a presidential propaganda machine! 

  • Deapthrowt

    Everyone keeps getting health insurance and health care all mixed up as if they were interchangeable terms. They are not. Strong-arming health insurance does not mean anyone will get any more or better health care.

    All it means is we get the privilege of paying for health insurance.

    Absolutely no gaurantee whatsoever they will get health care no matter how much or how little they now get to pay for health insurance.

    Please people, do not confuse this. Obama deserves no credit at all for “health care” reform because he reformed nothing.

    All he did was create new health insurance customers and the jingle of coins only for those who know how to fix the system and get their share long before any patient actually gets any or better “care”.

    Please take time to think deeply about the distinction between health insurance ($$$) and health care (???). Thank you.

    Obama is a charlaton. Don’t let him get away with this massive bait and switch.

  • confused American

    I so totally agree with you Deapthrowt but so many cannot get pass that concept..
     
    Look at the huge medical personnel shortage we already have and health insurance is going to cure that….Give me a Break!!!!
     
    Many places you can’t even get a permanent family doctor, even if you have the best of insurances. Even if the part of the bill that is supposed to help with getting medical personal it will take 10 + years to get the  new Doctors needed, and 6 + to get even Nurse Practitioners.
     
    Oh well they will all wake up when they find that due to lack of care we will all be rationed to  a certain point…Waiting as to what takes priority.

  • confused American

    Here we go with the Race Card again…If you can’t come up with a good argument then the other side is racist.
    I was not racist because I voted for  Gore.  I wasn’t racist because I voted for Hillary, or Bill Clinton. I wasn’t racist when I disagreed with the war and I am sure not Racist because I as many others can see Obama pulling this country down into a big deep hole.

  • lorac

    I thought of the movie The Sting.  You know, black Robert Redford, black Robert Shaw, black Paul Newman…..

  • jbjd

    WhatNOw, the Senate only passed what is called a non-binding resolution.  (Emphasis added.)  And, since this resolution had absolutely no precedential effect, one might ask, why did they bother to pass this, anyway?  I can only guess that, this was done to fool people like you into believing, this maneuver meant more than it did.

  • karen for Clinton

    You are such an ass.

    Who would WE, at NQ want to run against this flawed man of yours?

    One word, the one word we yelled here since this national nightmare began.

    HILLARY.

    unfortunately, he made sure along with his power brokers at the DNC that she would be cheated out of what she clearly had in her future and what clearly would have been best for our country.

    Oh, and as for your rationalization of obama might be bad but he is the best of the worst, well that too is pure bullchit.  Hillary is more popular.  McCain would have been a far better leader.  And there are legions of other women and men far more deserving and presidential than that fraud you worship since he is clearly one of the worst choices for president in the history of this country.

  • Robb

    Sounds like Jackie has spent way too much time on the pipe. Or maybe she’s just a F’ing idiot!!

  • Onofre’s arm

    Maybe lorac, but the entire movie was about the revenge of a bunch of grifters against a Chicago mob boss for killing a dear friend of theirs, a BLACK grifter named Luther. Perhaps the revenge of the Chicago mob in response to the original “sting” is the reason we now have the Chicago mob in the White House.

  • Required Reading

    Robb: I go with Door Number Two.

  • Jackie

    “The con mans race was never part of that image until YOU made the blatantly racist remark conflating our grifter President’s race with street hustlers, demonstrating to everyone here what a stinking racist YOU are, because you obviously believe all street hustlers are black.”

    Except that “street hustler” was never a phrase deployed at any of our previous white presidents, was it?  GWB was never called a “street hustler” for all of his crimes against the truth.  Neither was Clinton, Bush I, Reagan, Carter, Ford, LBJ…must I go on? 

    No, for SOME REASON, “street hustler” is a specific slur levelled at our first black president.  Along with “pimp”, “ghetto king”, “thug”, and many other slurs historically used by racist whites to disparage African-Americans.

    I know this is the cute little trick defense NQers finally all agreed on, after months of being called on for some pretty egregious racist remarks, along with Larry’s hideous racist hoax of a “whitey tape” somewhere in existence.  I know it’s a sensitive spot–no one likes being called on their racism, especially when it’s true.  I get it–you think the clever way to sneak out from under the charge is to just turn it back on the accuser.  Do that all you wish, but it changes nothing–the slur of “street hustler” is a specifically loaded racist attack on our first black president.  You know it, and I know it.

    “You’re Busted Jackie, so go sign up for some sensitivity classes to rid yourself of that giant racist chip on your shoulder.”

    Only if you and all of your PUMA friends show me the whitey tape!  LOL…

  • Jackie

    “One word, the one word we yelled here since this national nightmare began.  
     
    HILLARY.”

    Oh, my…  Why on earth would you ever support Hillary again?  She’s an active, critical part of the administration of the “worst choice for president in the history of this country”?  She’s clearly enabling him, right?  Seems to me you would be aghast to ever endorse such an enabler for anything ever again.

    HILLARY=OBAMA ENABLER.
    I mean, really, isn’t she just destroying the country right along with him?  Gosh, what a total, unfettered disappointment she must be to you.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Go play with the busses Jackie.

  • bamaLV

    as the nov. election draws closer we need to start using the “I” word and i dont mean idiot or ignorant. i mean IMPEACHMENT. we need to ask every repub. running ,if they would consider impeachment if the repubs win both houses. ask it everywhere. at townhalls, rallys, emails and anywhere else we can. if the repubs. see that a large majority of americans are for it, it will become part of the public discourse (much like the the dems flinging around the word racist)  i would love to see  heads explode over at countdown, hardball and cnn.if its said often enough they wont be able to ignore it. of course it will just give them another excuse to call us racists but  that word has been so overused it has lost all meaning. maybe we can come up with a snappy comeback for the word racist. any ideas?

  • bamaLV

    most of his supporters are people looking for handouts. they all want something for nothing and thats what they are getting..nothing. and all those young people who still support him are those who dont support themselves. wait till reality dawns on them (or the IRS comes after them).they will be singing a different tune than “mmm..mmm.mmm…obama.”it will sound more like “ mm..mmm.. mm f…er obama”

  • glennmcgahee

    Poor Jackie, if you think Universal Healthcare just passed I think you’ve got a rude awakening coming. Hopefully you are under 26 years old so you  can get on your parent’s insurance policy. What passed is nothing more than a bailout for the insurance and pharma lobby. Its  the pharma lobby by the way that contributed the most money to Obama’s election. Not only that but the main lobbyist for the industry was the most frequent visitor to the President’s office since the election. Popular? Hardly, unless all you watch is MSNBC. Yep, Microsoft and General Electric love the guy.