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The Heart of the Matter

I’m not singing Don Henley’s pop hit, I am talking about Sean Wilentz and his brilliant piece in Newsweek. Halfway thru the piece Wilentz notes:

The list of Bush’s failures is long and familiar. He will depart office in January having registered the lowest sustained public-approval ratings of any president on record—and will hand over to his successor numerous crushing burdens: gargantuan new federal deficits; a political and military morass in Iraq; federal agencies hollowed out by cronyism and narrowly ideological appointments, and an international image that is badly in need of repair. It is no wonder that 2008 has looked as though it will be a year of sweeping Democratic triumphs.

But, as Sean correctly notes, there is a problem with Barack that only those who can recall Jimmy Carter will understand. Jimmy Carter left office 27 years ago. You know what that means? Unless you are 45 years or older you probably do not remember much about Jimmy. What you do know is that he is a kindly grandfatherish figure who helps build houses for the poor. But folks my age recall him as the guy that was taking us to the poor house. He was the guy who didn’t understand that the Soviets were bad people, capable of duplicity. And what Sean points out is that Barack Obama is looking and sounding an awful lot like Jimmy Carter. Wilentz writes:

The convergence is revealing. As Republican strategists have begun to notice with delight, Obama’s liberal alternative to the post-Bush GOP to date has much in common with Carter’s post-Watergate liberalism. Rejecting “politics as usual,” attacking “Washington” as the problem, promising to heal the breaches and hurts caused by partisan political polarization, pledging to break the grip that lobbyists and special interests hold over the national government, wearing his Christian faith on his sleeve as a key to his mind, heart and soul—in all of these ways, Obama resembles Jimmy Carter more than he does any other Democratic president in living memory.

In other ways, Obama’s liberal vision appears clouded, uncertain and even contradictory. During his four years in Washington, he has compiled one of the most predictably liberal voting records in the Senate—yet he presents himself as an advocate of bipartisanship and ideological flexibility. He has offered himself as the tribune of sweeping change—yet he also proclaims national unity, as if transformation can come without struggle. He has emerged as the champion of a new, post-racial politics, even though he has only grudgingly separated himself from his pastor of 20 years, who every week preached a gospel of “black liberation theology” that has everything to do with racial politics.

And it is this last point that represents the tip of the iceberg that is likely to founder the good ship Barack Obama. Unlike Jimmy Carter who served successfully as Governor of Georgia, Barack does not have a legacy of accomplishment to trot out to defuse critics. Worse are the multitude of unexamined and unvetted areas of his life–Bill Ayers, his time in Indonesia, his time in New York City, Jeremiah Wright, and Tony Rezko. I am not talking about articles that have appeared on blogs, I’m talking about the unblinking media eye that, until now, gazed fondly and lovingly at the new saviour of the Democrats. But the eye will turn and the scrutiny will come. At that point the true image of Barack Obama will emerge.

Only one question remains–will it happen before or after the November election. Here we are at the Democratic National Convention and Barack has enjoyed a pass. My guess? The free ride is over.

  • DisenfranchisedVoter

    Has anyone else read that Biden did not give him a boost in the polls?

    Things are just going to get worse from here on out. I think more than ever before, Clinton supporters are very angry that she was not even considered for the VP spot and now that she is releasing her delegates, it’s finally setting in that Clinton and her voters got royally screwed by the DNC.

    Watch over the next month as McCain gains traction with Clinton supporters. That new ad asking why she wasn’t chosen will work to some extent. And I expect some gaffes from Biden as well. Add to that the GOP machine getting ready to release even more hard hitting ads. He hasn’t seen anything yet.

    • StrawberrybitesBarky

      Yup. What’s the usual bump after the VP is announced? 5-10 points?

      • http://www.barrysoetoro.com Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

        NO BUMP FOR YOU MIDGET!!!!

        • StrawberrybitesBarky

          I’ve been called a lot of things in my time, but midgit ain’t one of them.

      • Lester

        The bump went to McCain.

    • AJ

      What would be a really big boost for McCain would be selecting Hillary as his vice president!!!

    • dee4hill

      I agree. It’s not that she wasn’t chosen. It was the fact that he didn’t even show her the consideration of vetting her, all the while knowing full-well that she was the best shot he had at winning the GE. He’s cut off his nose to spite his face and he is going down. Did he think we’d jump on board once he announced someone other than Hillary?

      So be it. This is one angry, old school Dem that will NOT feed his ego in November.

      NObama, NEVER.

      McCain ’08 – Hillary ’12!!!

  • Geoff

    Your list of unexamined issues – Bill Ayers, his time in Indonesia, his time in New York City, Jeremiah Wright, and Tony Rezko – is right on point.

    My question is how Obama is going to explain the adoption by Soetoro, and does McCain have the cajones to go after him on that and Wright.

    So far, McCain has gone half heartedly against Ayers and just put out an ad on Rezko – and such ad got almost no traction. That sad truth is that Obama may just be the ultimate Teflon don, able to win even if everything gets thrown at him.

    • Kelley

      If you are right about the teflon don thing, I will re-think my position on Obama not being the anti-christ. I have a hard time believing that this nation who elected Bush twice would elect this obviously far left winger.

      I think, that barring the worst case end-of-the-world scenario coming true,

      more Hillary supporters will go PUMA and vote McCain.

      a few Obama supporters will turn around and vote McCain

      a lot of Obama supporters will sit out this election because they are not sure about him

      but there will always be the core Obama supporters who more and more remind me of the “threat within”

      • Geoff

        I hope your predictions come true, but the overwhelming media support for Obama may be enough to overcome all of Obama’s scandals, any one of which would sink any other candidate. Sad.

    • Hope Floats

      I am surprised the time in NYC is being brought up. I haven’t heard a lot about it except that this possibly when Ayers and Obama were in reality introduced.

      The ad on Ayers was not as hard as it could have been. It should have showed him standing on the flag, and an ad needs to be done recounting the domestic terrorism he carried out besides government buildings. Weather Underground bombed judges houses and cars; they could have killed children.

      • beebop

        The 527′s aren’t going to start until the suitcases come out of the hotels in Denver … and then voila!

    • http://mmb silverfox

      geoff…

      “the ultimate teflon don”

      perfect!

      the people who own mr obama uphold that description.

      the people who follow mr obama blindly and naively remind me of a don’s wife who lives in complete denial of who and what her husband really stands for….and a don’s kids are even more snowed as they rise in respectability as lawyers, etc…..

      teflon donobama

  • http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

    The GOP will remind everyone for weeks on end about Rev Wright and Obama’s 20 years glued to him and all the other dirty associations Obama has kept hidden and what will Obama do, cry like always!

    • socalannie

      True, I think we have to wait til after the crackpot convention before we see any serious attacks on snobama by the republicans.

      • http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

        One thing to keep in mind about the convention, Hillary has a master stratagist in her corned, Bill Clinton and the convention is not over yet.

        Obama’s campaign has a major weakness, it takes them a couple of days to react to anything thrown at them and Bill Clinton speaks the night before the roll call.

        What is extremely funny is how come Jimmy Carter isn’t speaking?

        • hank48188

          They gave Jimmy a spot tommorow, worst DEM President in 100 years.

  • BillyJoe

    Barack does not have a legacy of accomplishment to trot out to defuse critics.

    Why sure he does!! We’ll see the Annenberg Challenge papers this week and see what a great job he did there!

  • cathnealon

    There seems to be a definite method to the media’s madness during the primary season. Why they have lusted after BO and are only now opening their eyes to the reality of this mess of a candidate can only be theorized(nothing can be proven yet). Bu the honeymoon is over and the day to day grind of a relationship is upon us. My guess is that there will be a trial separation before the final break up in November.

    • Amae

      I do not have faith that the media will do any
      investigating. Look how long it took for them to
      question anything that Bush did. I’m one small
      person and I could see the trumped up run up to
      the war. I sent letters, faxed, ask congressional
      people to investigate. No one wanted to. The press was silent. I fear that this is the same.
      The press is too lazy to get out and learn some-
      thing. They prefer to be spoon fed info by the
      very people that they should be investigating.
      Sorry folks.

  • Susan Dougherty

    I hope his ride ends this week! Enough of him already!

  • Kelley

    I think you are right. The free ride is over. The republican fangs will come out and he will be ripped up.

    The love affair with the media is over and not likely to come back. Up until this week, Hillary supporters have focused on getting Hillary in nomination, but after the convention, if she is not the nominee, Plan B goes into effect and a lot of folks will be marching down to McCain HQ and volunteering.

    • HARP

      I have noticed a slight difference in their narrative already….since Biden was announced.

      • Kelley

        I noticed it too but put it off as wishful thinking.

    • AX10

      I like the sound of:
      “Plan B goes into effect and a lot of folks will be marching down to McCain HQ and volunteering.”

    • jimbo

      No we won’t. Not obama, never a repuglie.

      • Kelley

        if by ‘we’ you mean ‘I’ then that’s great, you own your vote just like I do. But I think Obama is more corrupt than Bush. A vote for McCain will help stop Obama.

  • karen for Clinton

    Wilentz has cut through the fog repeatedly in this nightmare of a political year.

    And the free ride is over for sure.

    The moment the funny hat gala ends and that last balloon hits the ground, the chit will hit the fan.

    The republican machine “start your engines” memo is going out right about now and they won’t take their foot off his neck until ob yells “UNCLE.”

  • http://www.theindependentview.com Matthew Weaver

    While Carter’s presidency was a long time ago, I have to seriously disagree with the comparison. Barack Obama is no Jimmy Carter. I joined the U.S. Navy in 1979 while Carter was president and voted for the first time in 1980. Carter was ex-Navy, as you say a governor, and a sucessful businessman. He was an All-American patriot that was by all accounts honest, respectful, and morally unimpeachable. He had and still has integrity. Regardless of how many viewed his administration then and his life since he has never been accused of any of the litany of things Obama stands accused of. Consider just three:

    - Corruption

    - 20-year association with terrorists and rabid racists

    - Habitual flip-flopper and liar

    Carter’s only slip was to express support earlier this year for Obama. It doesn’t make them equals. Again, Barack Obama is no Jimmy Carter.

    • karen for Clinton

      I see your point, however, Carter was weak and easily led, and there are other comparisons too.

      Carter was gullible and not able to take firm stances on foreign or domestic policy which led to a lack of progress and general decline in our nation.

      Nothing compared to GWB’s screw-up record though.

      • John

        Karen, you have no idea what you are talking about. Carter had flaws, but being “weak” and “easily lead” sure as hell weren’t among them. Nor was he “gullible” or “not able to take firm stands on foreign or domestic policy.” I don’t know what President you are referring to, but it sure as hell isn’t Carter.

        Carter’s “problem” was that he was strong, and he saw the Presidency as a place to LEAD FROM. He wasn’t gullible ENOUGH for the power brokers, who saw him as a threat to their power. And ask the Egyptians and Israelis and Palestinians or the Russians (Moscow Olympics, anyone?) if he failed to take firm stands on foreign policy.

        Your post is a total fail. Better luck next time.

        • Northwest rain

          Carter was a captain of a submarine — nuclear sub.

          So at least he understood the command structure of the military and how it really works — something you only learn by close association with the military (active duty or other close association). Some members of congress have gone out of their way to understand the US military — Hillary Clinton is one such person.

          I don’t know what happened to Carter as President, in the Navy he was trained to understand the Soviet Navy etc. Why didn’t this training didn’t carry over when he was president.

          Carter was also a hard worker and he is a very intelligent man.

          Why on earth would he endorse Obama who is intellectually lazy and connected to a domestic terrorist like Ayers? Obama is lazy — he finds the easy way to reach a goal. He didn’t use his time in the Senate — instead by his own admission he started his campaign almost as soon as he entered the Senate. He was too much work to figure out how to do his job well.

          Another difference between Carter and Obama/Soetoro — Carter made the decision to run for President and he put together an effective team. I was on the east coast during the Primary battles in New England — and it was clear that Carter would be the Dem nominee. With Obama I believe that he was encouraged (had his ego enlarged) to run this cycle — by puppet masters who figured they could use him for their own purpose. Now Soetoro believes the mythology.

          One way Carter and Soetoro would be similar (if our worst nighmare happens and Soetoro wins) is that once IN the white house neither will understand how to make the system work. I think that it takes experience within the Washington political system to understand how it really works. Sort of like understanding the culture of DC to figure out how to get things done. Soetoro doesn’t have a clue. But Bidet knows how the system works (ICK).

          • http://www.gratisnet.com bobbski

            Carter never served on a submarine, he left the Navy as a Lieutenant.

            Carter´s biggest problem as president was his inability to fully delegate authority.

            This old man´s (I was 35 years old when I voted for him) opinion.

            Comparing Obama to Carter is a grave insult to Carter.

            • StrawberrybitesBarky

              Um dude, he served as a senior officer aboard the Seawolf. It was one of the old diesel electric. Talk about sucky and stinky. He never served aboard a nuke sub but he did receive the training. A very hard cut to make.

              • Northwest rain

                Interesting . . .

                Rickover was a very picky man — and he personally selected the officers. There are lots of Rickover stories floating around this very military area.

                Also interesting that I have read the claim that Carter was a commander of a nuclear sub — perhaps puffing up his resume? Why? That sort of thing can be verified.

                • Northwest rain

                  Chosen by Admiral Hyman Rickover for the nuclear submarine program, he was assigned to Schenectady, N.Y., where he took graduate work at Union College in reactor technology and nuclear physics, and served as senior officer of the pre-commissioning crew of the Seawolf, the second nuclear submarine.

                  Strawberry’s correct — Seawolf.

                  Carter passed the Rickover test.

                  • Northwest rain

                    Oh — there is also a sub called the Jimmy Carter — it’s supposed to be a spy sub — and has been seen in the Puget Sound.

                    I doubt that Obama could pass the Rickover test — at least Carter passed the Admiral Rickover test.

                    • StrawberrybitesBarky

                      Yup, Northwest Rain, the silent service is very selective. I met a few old timers who still live around here, they are the neatest people. Barky is too slick. And lazy. Have you been to the sub museum? It is soooooo cool. Those old timers were tough as nails…and a little crazy. Sorry Larry, OT but I’m a sub nut.

                    • TeakwoodKite

                      Yeah …I just can’t see BO doing time on a boomer …

                      StrawberrybitesBarky; me too.

              • http://www.gratisnet.com bobbski

                I inadvertently omitted the adjective ¨nuclear¨ in my response.

                Point still remains, Carter couldn´t delegate authority. As an engineer, he had to have his finger in every decision.

                I always thought it interesting that we went from that to Reagan, a president who delegated everything.

          • stodghie

            carter was maybe too much of an idealist. also i don’t think he wanted to delegate and drowned himself in details. you have to be a little bit of an sob to be president. sad to say but there it is. i also think washington insiders took shameless advantage of his trust. i will add i am deeply disappointed that he is support obama.

            • beebop

              0bama has the SOB part down to a t!

        • karen for Clinton

          Wow, Condescending much? Good job there John in trying to discredit me as a “know nothing”, but unfortunately for you, your opinion of my opinion is meaningless to me.

          I supported Carter and he worked very hard during his campaign – with an ample boost from the media, who found his story compelling. I brought my young daughter to see him speak and even supported him for re-election – but unenthusiastically since he was weak.
          A lesser of two evils choice, for sure, the second time around.

          I was a tried and true democratic party apologist. Never again, live and learn.

          Carter gave support to dangerous factions and stirred up hornets nests that still have not calmed down. Iran was on a better road before Carter meddled therein than after. The rise of Khomeini and the further destabilization of the Mid East were bungled in his hands. Ahmadinejad today is thanks, in part, to Carter back then.

          The rise of Islamic radicalism and nuclear threat increased under Carter, and the Iran- Iraq blood bath was born. He didn’t stand firm against the Shah, he aided and abetted the deterioration of the region. I won’t say he was subversive, but he was ineffectual and led to the SU invading Afghanistan and the strengthening of Osama, Taliban, Al Qaeda, etc, and at the same time a malaise in the US that was palpable.

          I at first saw in Carter the hope for peace and prosperity. It wasn’t until afterwards, in hindsight, when I saw him as a “deer in the headlights” who blinked and stared as the hunters took out their rifles.

          And that is just MHO, and I am entitled to it, John. And btw, his stand on the Olympics makes my case, so your mentioning it is humorous to me.

          We won’t play in your games. Nah-nah, foo-foo.

      • http://1strepublic14thstar.blogspot.com/ 1st Republic 14th Star

        BULLSHIT. Carter was visionary and strong to the point of being mule-headed stubborn. That’s why Democrats in Congress and the DC media disliked him so intensely. The Democrats in charge of Congress decided they’d rather go along with Reagan as his loyal opposition that occasionally scraped up a few crumbs than to continue fighting with Carter over his vision and ideals. Following Carter would have led to the elimination of inflation and deficits, balanced budgets, energy independence, and a foreign policy based on more than naked greed. And even then it took a Reagan campaign that secretly negotiated with Iran to hold our hostages to drive Carter out.

        • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

          The Iran Hostage negotiation sabotage,

          Giving ARMS to Iran in exchange for Hostages,

          Selling arms to Iran and using proceeds to illegally fund a war in Nicaragua.

          Running drugs to fund an illegal war. (lots of circumstantial and anecdotal evidence but never proven)

          I am amazed how everyone involved, including Reagan, were able to escape charges of treason.

          If not for the grants of immunity for testimony and unscrupulous shredding of historical documents they’d all have gone to prison.

          Obama for all his “scrubbing”, is an amateur at subterfuge compared to those guys.

          Carter was a good guy, but a bad President. But, he was also undermined by these “Party Before Country” assholes.

          And now ironically, the Party before Country assholes are the Democrats.

          The US Constitution could not nail the Reagan assholes, but it shone the light so bright, they finally had to close up shop.

          Iran/Arms/Hostages/Nicaragua/Contras was probably the greatest threat to the Constitution this country has ever seen, including Dubya, The Patriot Act, and FISA.

          • Zee

            Johnny at Work,

            I think this is why they were so desperate to install the Idiot Son in office….all those papers were supposed to become public and lo and behold, Bushie got that reversed and the papers are now hidden down in Senior’s Library.

        • stodghie

          you make some good points. no one listened when he tried to sell them on fuel conservation. the iran fiasco didn’t help either. i wish he had sent the shaw to canada or europe. he was advised not to do it.

      • http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/080820_NBC-WSJ_Released.pdf trixta

        According to Tarpley OBAMA: A POSTMODERN COUP), both Obama and Carter are Bresinski’s (et al) manufactured politician.

      • Mr.Murder

        Camp David? Carter got more done for peace in the Mid East than anyone.

        Now, the Soviet edifice was on the verge of collapse, and Ronnie asked the IMF to loan them money before they fell, hoping its fall would carry momentum over to his successor’s term.

        Solidarity had as much to do with the fall as well.
        When the man left office we were nearing a balanced budget, despite the preceding Ford years of graft when Cheney and Rumsfeld ruled the roost.

        Had GHWB not made a deal in Paris, with Iran, for them to keep the hostages, Jimmy Carter would have probably got a a narrow win as incumbent.

        Carter had a plan for renewable energy too. One of Reagan’s first ‘party of ideas’ moments was when he pulled solar panels Carter had installed off of the White House roof.

        Then again, why would we expect a submarine captain to be someone who understood the value of energy conservation?

        He did have a bad habit of saying “nukular” and Dubya adopted that trait. A for ‘malaise’ and its use, Dubya said he wanted more of it, on his sandwich, when he heard the word spoken. A big double helping of it.

        Countdown to the day bin laden is captured carries on. Why no daily lead in the news about that? IOKIYAR.

    • Diana L. C.

      I am also old enough to remember Carter’s campaign and Presidency. I agree that Obama cannot be compared to Carter. Remember, a rule of logic is that you can’t really argue by analogy; all analogies fall apart. Here they fall apart in the basic character of the persons being compared.

      Obama is a young, snot-nosed, egocentric child raised in the “self-esteem” tradition that makes him think that since he can probably tie his shoes, he is remarkable and can run for President and deserve it on that merit alone.

      I think the thing that will bring Obama down the most is the whole caucus fraud that he and Axelrod commited against the people of the Democratic Party.
      I am really angry at the media for reporting the wonderfully smart and well-run primary election strategy he supposedly had. It was “Chicago style” all the way.

      Everyone should be working hard to demand that gets investigated and soon.

      • Uña de Gato

        I remember Carter’s presidency, and I think Wilentz’s point is that Obama’s message is very similar to Carter’s, not that they are similar in character or personal and political experience. That is why Obama’s Malaise for the New Millennium is like so much refried beans. We’ve had a taste of that mess and don’t want a second helping.

    • hank48188

      Carter was weak and indecisive, just like Obama. Jimmy Carter failed to support the Shah in Iran and let the Shite Nuts take over, that is something Obama would do too. Jimmy let the Nuts take the Americans hostage for 444 Days and did nothing about it, it think that is what Obama would do as well, frozen with indecisivness.

  • http://www.barrysoetoro.com Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    Larry Check Your Email!!
    Larry Check Your Email!!
    Larry Check Your Email!!

    • karen for Clinton

      ooooooh, ummmmmm, hmmmmm. youse guise are great.

      • maniaco

        her karen, let me help you up. looks like youns got run over by a truck or somethin

        [ dusting her off ... dust dust brush brush ]

        OK, good as new, now where were we karen?

  • HARP

    Nancy Pelosi…….the gift that keeps on giving.

    On NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday, the speaker twice seemed to suggest that natural gas – an energy source she favors – is not a fossil fuel.

    “I believe in natural gas as a clean, cheap alternative to fossil fuels,” she said at one point. Natural gas “is cheap, abundant and clean compared to fossil fuels,” she said at another.

    The speaker apparently was trying to contrast her support for expanded use of natural gas as a motor-vehicle fuel, and many Republicans’ preference for more domestic oil drilling — particularly through opening up more of the Outer Continental Shelf for exploration.

    But according to naturalgas.org, an educational Web site maintained by the Natural Gas Supply Association, “natural gas is the cleanest of all the fossil fuels.”

    http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/08/24/pelosi-on-natural-gas-fossil-fuel-or-not/

    • Obama/Sinclair ’69

      On NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday, the speaker twice seemed to suggest that natural gas – an energy source she favors – is not a fossil fuel.

      She is referring to what comes out her ass maybe?

      • Hope Floats

        Nancy Pelosi is a fossil fuel. She, no doubt, thinks her farts don’t stink.

        However, a shift to natural gas could even weaken US national security: More than 60% of the world’s reserves are concentrated in five countries — Russia, Iran, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates — countries that are already engaged in discussions on the establishment of an OPEC-like natural-gas cartel. Shifting from dependence on one authoritarian regime’s energy source to another’s is like jumping from the frying pan to the fire. It’s also the best gift the U.S. can give Iran at a time when it should be working to weaken Tehran economically.

        Would Nancy Pelosi, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Harry Reid and the Democrats sell us down the river? The hard line left, blame America leftists? Hell yes.

        • maniaco

          whew what a stinky post yuk yuk

          and what a ticket:

          Obama/Sinclair ’69

          that sucks!!!

      • MEchelle Hates America!

        Friggin’ hysterical – both your name and your comment.

    • mimi

      Nancy is an asshole.

      What about her term as Speaker has not proved this, not to mention her behavior this Primary cycle.

      She, Dean, Reid, Brazile, Kerry, Kennedy are among the main reason I left the Party.

      There’s not a brain cell between them.

      And she just proved it big time on Meet the Press.

  • yttik

    I really like Carter as a human being, but I cetainly don’t think he was the best President. I remember being told to put on a sweater, LOL. Reminds me of Obama’s advice to inflate your tires.

    Sound advice, but most of us are not idiots. We also look to our leaders to solve problems not to simply suggest we huddle in the cold endlessly blowing hot air into our tires in the hopes that our cars become hover craft and rise above gas prices.

    • mimi

      I used to feel that way about Carter up until he supported 0bama this year.

      I no longer respect him as a man. He doesn’t like the Clintons. He let his petty feelings guide him here. He, like many Dem leaders, behaved in such a vindictive manner and through their constituents under the bus rather than treat Hillary with decency.

      They’ve made their bed.

      Now they can lay in it.

      • http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/080820_NBC-WSJ_Released.pdf trixta

        So true, Mimi! I feel the same way.

      • Susan

        I was also disappointed when he said that he supported Obama because that’s who his grandchildren all were for. People like Carter, Caroline Kennedy and others who support a candidate because their children or grandchildren do? I just don’t get it. Remember when your mother told you – if your friends (relatives?) jumped off a bridge, would you do it too? Or was it just my mother who always said that.

  • Fandango13

    Again, I, for one, am so grateful that someone else besides us dissident Dems, might be (finally) vetting Obama, this poor excuse for a candidate. We’ve had to work so hard, against some really difficult, lazy excuses for a national press. No one seems to want to report; they all want to pundit.
    I must say, it’s pretty neat that so many really cool folks remind us so quickly, of Biden’s “glorious” past: chairing the Judiciary Committee that brought us Clarence Thomas and trashed Anita Hill, and another favorite: carrying the water for the credit companies and making it almost impossible for deserving poor and middle-class families to declare bankruptcy. Thanks, all of you with long memories who went to bat for the rest of us. You rock.

    PUMA

    • Kelley

      and how he has worked so hard to end violence against women – a weak trade off for electing an actual woman who is more qualified IMO

    • mimi

      Sorry, but I wish people would STOP calling the press lazy. They’re corrupt.

      They are taking their orders from their corporate masters who back 0bama.

      They hate the Clintons.

      They are every bit the cheaters 0bama is.

      Again, they give lazy people a bad name.

      • Zee

        LOL!

        Nailed.

        They are corrupt and complicit.

        When I protested Obambi on his b-day in Boston I interrupted one of them interviewing me because he was repeating a lying meme. That Hillary “agreed” the Florida and Michigan votes “would not count.”

        I told him that was dead wrong, that she only agreed not to campaign there, and that the media was at fault for spreading this stupid and false meme.

  • http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

    Obama and his people have something important to be scared of this week at the convention, the opening words of Bill Clinton which will likely be:

    Some of you may consider me a racist, but nothing ever said about me is further from the truth

    These words will destroy and open the eyes of many convention goes of just how disgusting a campaign was waged by the Chicago thugs and surrogates!

  • John

    Oh Christ, can we please cut out the Carter bashing? Does being Pro-Hillary and Anti-Obama really require that we embrace Republican talking points dating back to the early-1980s?

    Jimmy Carter was a serious, energetic President who inherited a totally fucked up economy (courtesy of LBJ, Nixon and Ford) and Henry Kissinger’s foreign policy. He also had to deal with a Democratic House and Senate leadership which resented his ascension to the Presidency and refused to take his enlightened ideas on energy independence seriously- so they gutted them when they couldn’t stall any longer. And that leadership was just thrilled to death when Carter got beat by Reagan, because it could go back to being the Loyal Pandering Opposition, and not have to do anything. Kind of like the current “leadership,” which is looking forward to Obama’s defeat so it can go back to promising without fear of actually having to deliver.

    I’m 44 years old. I remember Carter very well. A great man who was blamed for pretty much every Republican fuckup for the decade after he left office. Kind of like Clinton has been for the (almost) decade since HE’S left office.

    Oh and BTW- Carter didn’t “simply suggest we huddle in the cold.” He tried to point us toward energy independence by asking us not to waste the energy we used. “I remember being told to put on a sweater”- what you remember is the simplistic bumper-sticker talking point the GOP used to postpone energy independence for an entire generation.

    • Fandango13

      Yeah, what he says.

      PUMA

    • alee21

      I want a President who leads, not a kindly father figure who was unable to coordinate a competent rescue mission. So Carter and the disastrous Iran hostage crisis are forever intertwined in our memories.

      • John

        You’re just an idiot. “Not a kindly father figure who was unable to coordinate a competent rescue mission.” You think Carter should have lead the mission personally? Or you want to elect only Commando leaders to the Presidency?

        Congratulations, that has to be the dumbest post I’ve ever seen here.

        • Hope Floats

          Yeah, well there is a unanimous consensus that the mullahs came into power because of Carter’s weak foreign policy. Carter authorized Brzezinski to arm, train and finance the muhajideen. The whole nightmare national security threat America faces is a legacy of the Carter administration.

          • John

            Wow, you are even less informed than alee. No administration did more to train the mullahs than Reagan’s.

            Next, you’ll be blaming Carter for Vietnam and 9/11.

          • John

            Oh wait, never mind. You just did.

            Really, read a book. A good one. Moron.

          • StrawberrybitesBarky

            I don’t know Hope, read Ghost Wars, if I remember correctly a lot of the mess in Afghanistan happened under Reagen. It was still the Cold War and we were fighting the Russians by arming the muhjahideen.

          • TeakwoodKite

            Hope Floats.. Iran was already heading to it appointed fate, Carter only muddied things up. He would not listen to the British who had a longer history with Iran, and as a result America came to replace the British as the focus of anomosity from the Iranian people.

            Iran was on and still is on its own path. The Shah could not of prevented this as his fate was already decided.

          • tzada

            You are absolutely correct.

            To understand current events in the Middle East you need to be aware of the past and the 2008 election.

            If it wasn’t for the persons of Jimmy Carter and Zbigniew Brzezinskiwe we might not be in the Middle East at all. It is reality the United States may well have to be there forever. A base there,should another 9/11 happen, could be vital.

            Is Jimmy Carter back to his old tricks of Regime making? Is Barack Hussein Obama next? Is Barack a made person, as some speculate, molded by Jimmy Carter?

            After becoming President, Jimmy Carter, turned his foreign policy over to a man named Zbigniew Brzezinski. In 1976 Brzezinski came up with an insane plan to foment the rise of Islamic fundamentalism.

            “The 1980 Carter Doctrine, which announced that the United States was determined to dominate the Persian Gulf against all comers, is at the root of the first Gulf War, of the present Iraq war, and of a clash with Iran which could come at any moment.

            To this day, Brzezinski takes diabolical pride in having unleashed the decade-long Afghan War, which he touts as the Soviets’ Vietnam debacle.

            Brzezinski was very much a part of to the creation of al Qaeda as a wholly owned subsidiary of US and UK intelligence,.. The result was a ten-year occupation that cost the lives of an estimated 1.3 million Afghans and spawned the Mujahedin, Taliban and Osama bin Laden.” *

            This same man, Zbigniew Brzezinski, along with his son are now Barack Hussein Obama’s foreign policy advisers.

            Let us not forget that Jimmy Carter went to Syria to meet with Hamas, which is a Federally Designated Terrorist Organization. Also of note, Obama’s church is a supporter of Hamas. Lastly Hamas endorses Obama.

            Super Delegate Jimmy Carter after his trip to Syria, to meet with Hamas , declared to UK paper The Daily Telegraph
            “Obama can transform America’s image“ by Toby Harnden in Washington

            May God bless the souls of those lost that awful day. And may we never forget 9/11

            * http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=77419

        • http://medusa2.wordpress.com/ Medusa

          At the time of his presidency, even those of us old enough to put him in office began to be embarrassed by Carter’s appearance as a naive and fawning weakling. His sappy sincerity came across as effete and ineffectual.

          Carter did not have crooked Chicago pols behind him as Obama does.

          • John

            His sappy sincerity came across as effete and ineffectual.

            Sincere= Effete and Ineffectual.

            Peabrains like you gave us two President Bushes.
            Because you turned sincerity into a negative.

            Hope you can sleep at night.

            No, actually I don’t.

            • tzada

              The farmers of Georgia were so embarrassed by Carter that they put up billboards that said this.

              “We the farmers of the State of Georgia apologize to the rest of the United States for Jimmy Carter. “

        • VRWC – Rescue mission Dept.

          On the right we obviously have our differences with Carter. But many don’t blame him for the failure of the hostage rescue mission, despite the common narrative of his micromanaging it. Apparently the real problem (I’m no expert on this) was insufficient coordination among the various military services, a long-term problem which certainly pre-dated Carter.

          • StrawberrybitesBarky

            Correct me if I’m wrong but because of that fiasco wasn’t Special Forces revamped?

            • 935 Lies

              That was the kick-off. The spectre of SEALS drowning and troops ashore calling the Pentagon and the Navy Yard on their calling cards from Grenada in the middle of the action because nobody’s radios talked to anyone else’s gave it a boost, too.

      • http://1strepublic14thstar.blogspot.com/ 1st Republic 14th Star

        You know why the Iran hostage rescue failed? In part because the senior leaders (generals and admirals), fucked Carter over by not doing training, not coordinating their efforts and not allocating the right equipment and in the right quantities. The leadership of the US military wanted Carter to fail. They may not have foreseen the casualties that resulted from the accident caused by the sandstorm, but they absolutely short changed that mission because they didn’t want it to succeed. They wanted Reagan to win. In fact, they secretly passed info on to the Reagan campaign to keep them aware, which is one reason Reagan’s people knew to work Iran to KEEP the hostages.

        • Hope Floats

          Reagan winning was the best thing that could have happened to this country, and Carter wrecked our government. If any behind-the-scenes manipulation was carried out to boost Reagan’s credibility at Carter’s expense, then God bless the military.

          • John

            Wow, spoken like a real Hillary supporter who is now against Obama. Yeah, right.

            Your post stinks of fascism- if the military manipulated the election of their preferred candidate, God Bless them, huh?

            Your hatred of Democracy just oozes from your post. Why even bother to vote? Just let the Pentagon install the President who is best for us, fuck elections!

            Sieg Heil, dickweed.

            • beverly leslie

              Can you please stop cursing so much?

            • Fixed Yer Typo

              Your hatred of Democracy just oozes from your post. Why even bother to vote? Just let the Pentagon DNC install the President who is best for us, fuck elections!

              Sieg Heil, dickweed.

              Fixed yer typo.

          • http://1strepublic14thstar.blogspot.com/ 1st Republic 14th Star

            Would you be saying this if it was a Democrat who had done the behind the scenes manipulation? I doubt it. I suspect you’d be bitching about power-hungry liberals who would do anything to win. But IOKIYAR, right?

            The Constitution, one principle of which is civilian control of the military, is more important than any election. When it comes to politics, the ends do not justify the means.

          • tiberius

            Please recall that 8 American soldiers gave their lives in that failed rescue effort:

            “Three of these men were United States Marines: Sgt. John D. Harvey, 21; Cpl. George N. Holmes, 22; SSgt. Dewey L. Johnson, 31, all who died in or trying to escape their RH-53 Sea Stallion helicopter.

            “Five of them were members of the United States Air Force, Maj. Richard F. Bakke, 33; Maj. Harold L. Lewis, 35; TSgt. Joel C. Mayo, 34; Capt. Lyn D. McIntosh, 33; and Capt. Charles T. McMillan, 28, who died in the cockpit of their C-130 Hercules transport.”

            http://rescueattempt.tripod.com/id1.html

      • StrawberrybitesBarky

        Kindly father figure? You do know what Carter did in the Navy right? They don’t give those assignments to just anyone.

        • Northwest rain

          Admiral Hyman Rickover — father of the nuclear sub.

          Carter had to pass Admiral Rickover’s test.

          Admiral Rickover personally chose captains and a large chuck of the sub personnel.

          Rickover He also made it a point to be aboard during the initial sea trial of almost every nuclear submarine completing its new-construction period, and by his presence both set his stamp of personal integrity that the ship was ready for the rigors of the open seas, and ensured adequate testing to either prove as much or to establish issues requiring resolution.

          As head of Naval Reactors, Rickover’s focus and responsibilities were dedicated to reactor safety rather than tactical or strategic submarine warfare training. It could be argued that because of Rickover’s singular focus on reactor operations, and direct line of communications with each nuclear submarine’s captain, that this acted against the captains’ warfighting abilities.

          Such a claim, however, does not hold up well in consideration of the highly-classified national security accomplishments of the submarine force, such as are allegedly chronicled in Blind Man’s Bluff: The Untold Story of American Submarine Espionage (1998).[21] Moreover, the accident-free record of United States Navy reactor operations stands in stark contrast to those of America’s primary competitor during the Cold War, the Soviet Union, which lost several submarines to reactor accidents in both its haste and chosen priorities for competing with superior U.S. technology.

          • StrawberrybitesBarky

            Yup, Northwest Rain. He was a submariner. Very smart. I tested with the Navy to be a nuclear engineer, talk about tough…but I had babies instead. Oh well.

    • Wisewoman

      Don’t forget, Carter set up the strategic oil reserves, the one we have today to blunt a shutoff of foreign oil. The one everyone whats to tap into whenever oil prices go up. Not a good idea to leave yourself vulnerable.

      • 935 Lies

        He also de-regulated the airlines and the savings and loans and created the Maritime Prepositioning Squadrons, which keep a lot of whoop-ass close to likley deployment areas.

        Dude wasn’t stupid, just didn’t have a heavy enough hand. If we had, say BOMBED Tehran and killed all the Hostages in the process, he’d have been re-elected.

    • http://NoQuarterUSA.net Larry Johnson

      Help me understand. How is pointing out the truth of Jimmy Carter’s Presidency “Carter bashing.” I think Jimmy Carter is a decent, well-meaning man. But, despite his military service and time at Annapolis, he projected weakness, not strength. And that came back to bite him and us.

      Which “Republican fuckup” did Carter get blamed? I really don’t know what you ‘re talking about.

      • hank48188

        I’m 59 and remember well, Jimmy was a terrible President. Maybe being a real Christian is not possible in that job, you have to deal with a real world. I just think how the entire Iran thing played out, his failure to support the Shah and allowing the Radical Shites take over, Then he let the Shites kick sand in the face of every American for 444 Days. Carter and Brzezinski did nothing, now the same Internationalists that brought you Carter/ Brzezinski are promoting Obama/ Bezezinski. These people do not have the best interests of America in mind, just their own.

      • Ms. Misdemeanor

        I’ll post a diary about Carter, if you will

        allow me to do so, within in the next several days.

        I love this idiotic Carter bashing, that you are engaging in.

      • Ferdberfle

        Actually most of Carter’s problems stemmed from the hangover from the Vietnam, we’ll have guns AND butter, War. It seems that there is no country a Texan president (LBJ/GWB) can’t bankrupt. The link is the republican Nixon, who continued the fiasco for another 5 bloody years even though it was apparent (even to Walter Cronkite) that victory was impossible.

        Of course that pesky installation in 1953 (Eisenhower (R)) and subsequent US support of the dictator Reza Shah Pahlavi didn’t help matters.

        The next president, hopefully McCain, will have the same problems Carter had, only worse because most of this war was paid for off-budget, the enormity of which we won’t know for awhile. This being the case, Obama would be the absolute worst possible POTUS. We can’t talk our way out of this mess; can’t orate them into submission; and can’t put off decisive action. I would have preferred HRC but will reluctantly support McCain.

        • Mr.Murder

          Iran was an Ike mess up. Nixon was supposed to be steeering most of that in the final term when Ike made the MIC speech.

          Carter just suffered the collateral result.

          The rescue mission was a mistake of major proportions; tactically, strategically, politically.

          Not unlike the Bay of Pigs, a plan that was in place during an election cycle with the possible hope of widening a conflict on collateral result.

          He should have left that plan on the desk for Reagan to try and play Rambo with. The same way Ike was passing the call forward regarding the famous Kennedy fiasco.

          • Mr.Murder

            It took quite a while for the results also.

            Not unlike some of our other mishaps(fomenting the mujahadeen).

            Brzez revels in the success because he left before it hit the fan, but venture types like him surpass party lines and craft their own reality. The neocons are just poor imitations.

            Pakistan is probably the best comparison now. Things going on there are the result of several decades ‘work’ for expediency at the expense of transparency.

            Or, whoever we prop up to oppose Chavez in South America.

    • mimi

      “He also had to deal with a Democratic House and Senate leadership which resented his ascension to the Presidency….”

      I’m not going to get into the argument about Carter being a good or bad president. But I will say he was not a great man because a great man would have figured out a way. That’s what greatness is.

      The most important part of your post is the above quote.

      You think an 0bama presidency won’t have to deal with the resentment of his ascension to the presidency.

      Congressmen/women, Senators have constituents to please. There’s a Constitution with the guaranteed Checks & Balances. An 0bama win is going to leave a lot of angry constituents. Now do you really think the elected members of Congress are going to do anything but look after their own self-interests?

      Carter is the past. Sure he is a decent man, but he made mistakes and his presidency is not above being critiqued. And neither is Reagan’s or Clinton’s.

      I think the intention of the article was to point out the similarity of Carter and 0bama’s message and how they both rode the wave of hope and change after super disastrous presidencies. And in that regard they ARE similar.

      But 0bama is no Carter. At least Carter had executive experience, had served in the Navy and had ideals.

      0bama stands for nothing.

      He just wants to get elected.

      And he’ll throw anyone under the bus to obtain that end.

    • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

      I am sorry, but Carter was a BAD president.

      In my first Presidential vote, I voted for Carter.

      FORD WOULD HAVE BEEN WAYYYYY BETTER.

      If not for Fords pardon of Nixon, Ford would have beaten Jimmy.

      Carter inherited a weakened economy and government, but he MADE IT WORSE. A LOT WORSE.

      16 percent mortgage rates. If you could get it. It’s like financing a house on a credit card.

      Carter was a PACIFIER, just like OBAMBI.

      Carter tried to rescue the hostages, but for a terrible accident at the staging area, Marines would have entered IRAN for the rescue.

      That incident sums up the Carter Presidency, a huge failed wreck.

    • beebop

      If you are 44 you can hardly remember a Carter presidency ….

      My enduring memory of Carter is one of pity. I remember him leaving the White House a totally ineffective man and the captives coming home. I felt he got shafted on that. I felt that foreigners manipulated our elections to ensure that we got a cowboy for president the next time.

      Nothing has changed my opinion.

      He lost me when he turned on the Israelis.

  • justsaynotobo

    One of the biggest stumbling blocks Clinton Democrats have faced is the collusion of the mass media with the DNC. The word has not gotten out that the caucuses were fraudulent. Word has not gotten out that 3% of the votes were manipulated by the Obama campaign and that that very same 3% chose 15% of the delegates to the convention. Word has not gotten out that high schoolers were bussed to the polls in Gary, IN to vote for Obama or that the Mayor of Gary, IN held back the count from Lakeshore County until the rest of the state had been tabulated so that he knew how many votes were needed to put Obama over the top (or better yet, close behind so that no one would be tempted to investigate). Word has not gotten out that it was Obama’s campaign that killed any chance for a revote in FL and MI. In fact, the list of what hasn’t gotten out is so long at this point it could fill volumes. We can only hope that at some point between the coronation and the general election, word will get out. Voters need all, not some, of the information or their vote is nothing more than a rubber stamp

    • Kato

      I think what you’re describing is what happens on any ranch. It’s the idea that you fatten the livestock before slaughter.

    • mimi

      “One of the biggest stumbling blocks Clinton Democrats have faced is the collusion of the mass media with the DNC.”

      I’m so happy you made this point. It’s among the reasons I won’t support 0bama.

      Hillary lost. I accepted that ages ago.

      But 0bama lost me when he lied, cheated and the DNC and the msm helped him across the finish line.

    • Zee

      Here is documentation of the caucus fraud:

      http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/video/index.htm

  • typical.white.person

    Is anyone else familiar with this:

    Texas Darlin’ possibly in cahoots with Larry Sinclair?

    John Dean, an occasional reader of this site and former contributor to No Quarter, loves to track down IP addresses. He thinks that he has Texas Darlin’s number.

    To be specific: 72.197.138.2

    This is not private information. That IP number shows up in the header of a message sent by Texas Darlin’ on April 2, 2008, at 10:27 PM, to a Yahoo Group — hillarysvoice@yahoogroups.com. It’s one of several numbers on the “X-Recieved” list, which traces the path from a home computer to its destination. That number traces to a coastal town in California (I won’t be more specific); in her Yahoo group message, Texas Darlin’ reveals that she has moved from Texas to California.

    The same number is listed here as belonging to — hold onto your hats! — Larry Sinclair. As most of you know, Larry is the strange and unconvincing man who insists that he had gay sex with Barack Obama. I’ve poked fun at Larry in the past.

    • typical.white.person

      Oh, I just read the update at the bottom, which clears things up.

    • http://mccaindemocrats.wordpress.com/ 30yrdem-not any more

      UPDATE:

      I received this email that cleared up some misunderstandings.

      the ip address list that was posted at M&N came from an xml backup file of Larry’s blog on wordpress when he was transferring his site to hosmonster.com and left the file in a pubilc folder at his new web address. Someone (not sure who) ran some kind of analysis that listed everyone by username, followed by the associated email and ip addresses, which resulted in that posted list on M&N.

      A couple of weeks later, Citizen Wells left the same xml file exposed at his wordpress blog, and it was downloaded by several people. I created a clone of Larry’s blog on wordpress.com that is private, and have spent some time weeding through comments. The instance where texasdarlin posted under Larry’s name was a fluke occurence, that if I remember correctly coincided with a ‘raid’ on his site where several M&N bloggers were posting freely at Larry’s site. I don’t see anything there to back up the theory that they are connected other than inthe loosest sense. She appears to have commented at his blog about 40 times or so between 3/6 and 6/20. The clone of Larry’s blog is only current up until the time he was arrested and Citizen Wells was running the show for a couple days.

      BTW, I also concluded that texasdarlin was not in texas. Also, I hate her.

      If you have any further questions, I’m happy to help. I’m pretty focused on Larry’s lies, but I like to poke around and see what else the crazies he has following him are up to elsewhere.

      http://www.yestodemocracy.com/yes_to_democracy_no_to_pu/2008/08/texas-darlin-po.html

      • TeakwoodKite

        30yrdem-not any more,

        To What purpose is this?

        Lost me on that… why is this important?

        ?)

      • Pink Panther

        A statement made on the website questions what Hillary supporters would be doing on the free republic website. Obama trolls have made statements that they have been on the free republic websites.

        These pro-Obama websites continue to confirm the disarrayed thinking of Obama’s supporters. The music from the Twilight Zone comes to mind when thinking of some of these Obama supporters.

    • El

      “John Dean” aka “SluggoJD” aka “Bozosrnot4bush” is a well known nutcase. You’ll save yourself a lot of wasted time and energy by igoring his ravings.

    • tzada

      Maybe you are correct. However there are programs (I use one myself) that hide your real ISP. The same number could be used by several people at various times. You can change ISP every few minutes if you want.

  • Patti

    I aslo voted for the first time in 1980. I voted for Reagan. NOT Jimmy Carter, I figured new decade, new president.

    This time its NO newbie with 143 days in the senate and decides its time for a promotion. I wonder if my boss would let me “crack” some of the patients. I worked for him for a year. Im ready for the job.

  • HARP

    I wish PUMA could afford one TV commercial. It would be shown 24/7 just like the swiftboat ads were.

  • Leisa

    I hope the free ride is over…

    The best quote from Wilentz to date:

    Obama’s liberal vision appears clouded, uncertain and even contradictory. During his four years in Washington, he has compiled one of the most predictably liberal voting records in the Senate—yet he presents himself as an advocate of bipartisanship and ideological flexibility. He has offered himself as the tribune of sweeping change—yet he also proclaims national unity, as if transformation can come without struggle. He has emerged as the champion of a new, post-racial politics, even though he has only grudgingly separated himself from his pastor of 20 years, who every week preached a gospel of “black liberation theology” that has everything to do with racial politics.

    • mimi

      Sorry, but 0bama has not been in Washington 4 years.

      He was elected in Nov, 2004. He got to DC and was sworn in in Jan, 2005.

      He started running for office in Feb, 2007. So he was in the Senate exactly 2 years before he started his campaign and has done very little since then.

      He’s been on the job for only 24 months. Come this January, he will officially have been a Senator for 4 years, 2 of which he did nothing.

      • El

        He had been in the senate for four months when he established his presidential campaign exploratory committee.

        FOUR MONTHS.

    • tzada

      “That’s just how white folks will do you,” Obama writes in Dreams From My Father

  • Objective analysis

    Obama is 2008 version of Carter

    He will loose faster than you can say or spell O-bam-a.

    Carter is the featured speaker on Monday. Didn’t this man actually talk to Hamas which endorsed obama for president?

    • Kelley

      That’s what I’m thinking, how can all of these people endorse Obama KNOWING about his associates?

      Especially Biden who’s been in there for 35 years, he must remember the weather u.g. bombing, yet all is forgiven of Ayers?

      Didn’t they hang Benedict Arnold? Well now ladies and gentlemen we are about to have a modern day benedict arnold with an ear in the whitehouse.

      • tiberius

        Didn’t they hang Benedict Arnold?

        No, they didn’t. Arnold died in Gloucester Place, England, in 1801. On his deathbed he reportedly asked to be buried in his old American uniform. On the house where he died there’s a brass plaque commemorating him as “an American Patriot”

        There’s a momument to Arnold on the Saratoga battlefield. It doesn’t bear his name. There’s a boot on the monument, which refers to the grave leg wound he received there, the complications of which he ultimately died of years later. There’s an inscription on the monument: “In memory of the most brilliant soldier of the Continental army, who was desperately wounded on this spot, winning for his countrymen the decisive battle of the American Revolution, and for himself the rank of Major General.”

        Arnold was a complex figure. Although most Americans think of him as a traitor, America wouldn’t have won the war for its independence without him.

        • Kelley

          He was a traitor and fled to England before they could get to him. why would you try to paint a traitor as a good guy?

          By May of 1779, Arnold had begun bargaining with the British. Why would a man commit treason against his country, especially one who had fought so valiantly? We can only speculate. He was certainly angry and hurt over the many slights he received over the years. He probably felt unappreciated by his country and those he fought with, even sacrificing his own leg for the cause. His pride was most likely the biggest piece of his life that was damaged — humiliation was always an affront Arnold could never take. Money, of course, played a big part. He was offered in excess of 10,000 pounds and a commission in the British military.

          They moved to London where he found no job, some admiration and even some contempt. He moved his family to Canada where he reentered the shipping business. The Tories there disliked him and had no use for him, and eventually he returned his family to London.

  • Paul

    Obama Biden = Osama Bin Laden

    What a coincidence….

    • karen for Clinton

      This year has been filled with things like that. It is synchronicity, omens, coincidence, or the end of the world. Final call on that matter – November 5th.

      We’ve said the obots will need therapy when he loses, but inversely if he wins some of us will go stark raving mad! I know I will. :-)

      • Kelley

        and the anagram

        Obama Biden

        A Dean Bimbo

        • Hope Floats

          Barack Obama

          AKA Car Bomb

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal Paul F. Villarreal

    I want to post a letter here that I just received from a conservative contact. I will leave the email essentially intact, but take out identifying elements.

    I want say first that what is being described in the email could, possibly, be in its early stages based on some things I have experienced in the past few days.

    Do not share your information with anyone you don’t know, especially right now. Be particularly vigilant as it’s increasingly likely that something like what is being described here could or will occur.

    I cannot verify the email’s information. That said, here is the email:

    .

    Good evening:

    A request has come in from a FReeper friend that most everyone at FR would recognize instantly. If not instantly, you’ve probably heard about this person. An alert has come in today asking for help in overcoming the onslaught that is getting ready to happy during and after the Democratic convention.

    [information removed explaining how, purportedly, the 'FReeper friend' came into supposedly learning what the Obamabots are planning]

    Some of the activities beginning next week is as followed:

    A list has been generated by diehard Obama supporters (*DailyKos, MoveOn, and HuffingtonPost) to go after PUMAs (Hillary supporters) and Republicans that speak out against Obama online, TV, radio, and print.

    According to this person, information has already been gathered about these people: financial records, residential addresses, employer information, and a couple of the Obama supporters have even more personal information that is potentially damaging and obviously embarrassing.

    Any videos on YouTube that is unflattering to Obama will have a complaint filed against it. As of yesterday, this person stated some 1200 have been flagged at YouTube for a mass complaint sometime next week.

    Keep in mind, that none of this will go public as it is being done behind the scenes and none of these people want their name attached to it. Why? Some of this information is highly illegal and could be extremely damaging to the Obama campaign if they’re name is attached to it. If you believe that Obama’s people don’t know this is going on, think again.

    What can be done to help ensure that Obama’s supporters can’t win?

    Please take the time and visit the following blogs and YouTube accounts. Show your support and let them know that you support their efforts to stop Obama:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal – PUMA

    http://www.youtube.com/user/JohnDVillarrealEsq – Paul’s brother and loves Rush Limbaugh

    http://www.youtube.com/user/justsaynodeal – PUMA website: http://www.justsaynodeal.com/

    http://www.nobamanetwork.com/ – Any blog listed on here is on the radar. Some of the bloggers are FReepers.

    This information needs to be passed around to as many people as possible. If you wonder what an Obama Presidency will be like, this campaign season is a pretty good indicator of where things are going. We cannot be silenced.

    Thank you,

    xxxxxxxxxx

    .

    If this email is accurate, then the authoritarian left is in full swing to try to “Alice Palmer” PUMAs/Just Say No Deal Members and anyone else who doesn’t agree with them. As most of us know, such tactics would come as little surprise. This is how these people operate, and have been operating. As I said, I think this kind of thing may already being started against me, personally, based on some quirky event in the past several days.

    I have passed this information along to a number of sources, as has the person who sent me the email. I don’t want to be alarmist about this. Perhaps this will all come to nothing, or maybe the information isn’t even accurate. I don’t know. But I do want to pass it along so that if people start to see things happening they can come back to this possible advanced warning and respond more rapidly.

    Now is a very important time. Be very careful with your information and who you share it with. Larry Sinclair had both his blogs shut down today. I’ve noticed some odd things coming my way. The ‘bots are in distress, and we have to be ready for this kind of action if they decide to engage in it.

    These tactics, if they are to be employed, are to present a false unity and lack of dissent for Obama after the convention, if he is nominated. That way, it looks like there is less dissatisfaction with his illegitimate nomination, etc. This is very basic ‘shock-and-awe,’ propaganda stuff. The kind of stuff that I’m sure ACORN would teach.

    Don’t be cowed by any of this if it happens, but make sure that you have some heads-up/protection in the event that it could, possibly, happen.

    Also, thank God for Ed Rendell for telling it like it is today. And Judy Woodruff, you’re a joke. If you don’t want to get called out, media, don’t pull the crap you’ve been pulling.

    • karen for Clinton

      That has already happened in a few different ways.

      They shut down so many Hillary sites, some temporarily – mostly on the nights of primaries or big breaking stories, and they also shut some down permanently through computer attacks and also through personal intimidation.

      His FISA vote gave me chills.

      Stay safe out there all you PUMAs.

    • Dr. Kate

      Paul, this needs to be sent to the FBI. This kind of behavior violates several federal statutes, not to mention the first amendment.

      these people are capable of anything!

      Is there a central FBI/homeland security reporting number for this behavior?

      White light around everyone!

      • http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal Paul F. Villarreal

        Do you have their contact info, Kate? If you do, please feel free to send it along. If you want to pass the info along to me, ask Susan for my email.

        I have sent this info out to a number of outlets. The first thing we can do to help prevent this, if it is legitimate and planned, is to raise the awareness that it would be going on. Kind of like putting a collar with bells around your cat’s neck.

        Secondly, we have to be very careful giving out info, etc., during such a time.

        We need to head this off at the pass. Contacting the FBI certainly could aid in that effort.

        This might all be nothing, but I would rather find that out later than after the authoritarians have struck.

        They are already targeting AP’s Ron Fournier for his excellent write-up of the Biden pick. There is a large campaign being waged against him. He could be the first target of this effort.

        We will not be silenced, deterred or intimidated. Spread this information around. It is better to be prepared than not, even if nothing comes of this.

        • Dr. Kate

          thanks Paul. I will start looking at contacts and laws.

          There are a couple of other things too…first we might want to not engage the bots in any discussion at all–don’t visit their sites, don’t fight with them.

          I personally will continue my own efforts but will refrain from going to any democrat gatherings.

          I do not put bumper stickers on my car this year, except one: “we’re all in this together” with a globe…

          Trying not wear my extreme distrust and dislike of Obama on my sleeve.

          Obama has limited my freedoms: that should be a clue to all!

          • http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal Paul F. Villarreal

            Sounds great, Kate. Really appreciate your hard work.

            We know how real this can be, and has been, from the Alinskyites. This is what they do, as Ron Fournier and the AP is now finding out. We know any or all of us could be next. We have to be ready to counter this, and start going on offense against this immediately.

            Anything you need, Kate, just contact me. We don’t want to overreact here, but we need to be on our toes if this turns out to be true.

          • Kelley

            and I should like to point out that even during the Bush 8 years we were free to oppose him.

    • Diana L. C.

      I am just wondering after readng Paul Villarreal’s post: Should I get a red shirt and learn to call everyone “comrade” and prepare to die?

      • Dr. Kate

        actually this is not funny or laughable. The request was reasonable, to watch out. The obots are thugs and this is what they are doing.

        You dont’ recognize the saul alinksy methods here, the radical left tactics, do you?

        His bots are like brownshirts–get in line. These tactics are unamerican, violate federal laws, and invade privacy. this is not ok nor is it laugable. Jail time and fines are appropriate.

        but obama loves FISA, so maybe you’d better get your commie shirt.

        • Northwest rain

          These Obamabots have threatened NQ regulars. Susan UNpc was threatened and personal information was posted (which was removed).

          The individual who posted the personal information then threatened everyone — claiming that “she” would hunt us down and find information on us and alert our employers etc.

          These Obamabot brownshirts are nasty — and if they can they will try to punish anyone who speaks against their messiah.

          These are cult members and this is very typical behavior for cult members — some are even willing to kill for their masters.

          Obama isn’t a political movement it is a cult — and it has been since he gave that speech at the Dem convention 4 years ago.

          Take this message seriously — these people will probably do a lot of damage to reputations and to people’s lives. They are dogmatic that their messiah/leader wins — no matter the cost.

          This is no joke — I watched these guys in the caucus that I attended — they were trained and ready to do whatever it took to steal the nomination for Obama.

          I will vote against Obama BECAUSE of his followers. They are dangerous — extremely dangerous. Many are psychotic — with pathological tendencies. Look at the idiot Obamabots who show up here!!

          The Obamabots do not believe in democracy — the are Authoritarians and extremely dangerous.

          PUMA

          • http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal Paul F. Villarreal

            Great and dead-on comment, NR. You are 100% correct and accurate here.

            This is very real, people. And the reason that the ‘bots are saying that nothing is going on and it’s no big deal is because they don’t want you to be aware that they are sneaking up behind you with a metaphorical knife in their hand.

            Be prepared. Start looking into counter-measures now. Do not be taken by surprise.

            These people are Bolsheviks, Alinskyites. Professional revolutionaries and agitators. Ayers, Wright, Jackson. This is what these people do. This is not a joke, it is very real.

            Get ready and be prepared.

        • tzada

          Nance and some other DNC people love that Fairness thing, where you have to give equal time to opposing views. Freedom of Speech down the drain?

    • Kelley

      What will happen over at HillaryClintonForum after the convention? Will Hillary put a stop to her name being used there?

      We need to have a backup plan

      • http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal Paul F. Villarreal

        I have a site that we can use if necessary. Keep that in your minds in case any sites start going down.

        We are not going to be silenced, no matter what.

    • Kelvin Hearts PUMAs

      You PUMAs are pretty paranoid. Don’t worry. Obama is not after you. While I’m sure he’s heard of you, he does not fear you. You can continue to wear your tinfoil hats and make up all the falsehood that you wish about him. You guys have nothing to fear.

      • Dr. Kate

        with people like you, kelvin, there is a lot to fear. you couln’t run a hose to the garden let alone speak intelligently about policy.

        Did obama or his thugs off Donald Young? Waht about Larry Sinclair? What about the recent deaths of democrats?

        • TwoTermObama

          Any reference to Larry Sinclair here just makes me laugh, but linking Senator Obama to Stephanie Tubbs Jones is just plain outrageous, Dr. Kate. Your paranoia is out of control. Here:

          Paranoid personality disorder is a psychiatric diagnosis characterized by paranoia and a pervasive, long-standing suspiciousness and generalized mistrust of others. (DSM-IV) For a person’s personality to be considered a personality disorder, an enduring pattern of characteristic maladaptive behaviors, thinking and personality traits must be present from the onset of adolescence or early adulthood. Additionally, these behaviors, traits and thinking must be present to the extent that they cause significant difficulties in relationships, employment and other facets of functioning.

          Those with paranoid personality disorder are hypersensitive, are easily slighted, and habitually relate to the world by vigilant scanning of the environment for clues or suggestions to validate their prejudicial ideas or biases. They tend to be guarded and suspicious and have quite constricted emotional lives. Their incapacity for meaningful emotional involvement and the general pattern of isolated withdrawal often lend a quality of schizoid isolation to their life experience.

      • Kelley

        and if it’s paranoia then why is our personal info being posted? I know that happens for a fact.

        it’s to silence us through terror

        your leader is a fascist, you thought Bush was a fascist but Obama is the real deal

    • Bellevue_NW_Voter

      “According to this person, information has already been gathered about these people: financial records, residential addresses, employer information, and a couple of the Obama supporters have even more personal information that is potentially damaging and obviously embarrassing.”

      Oh, I would not be surprised at all if they have at least #2 and #3 at hand. #2 (address) and #3 (employer) are not difficult to obtain for anyone who’s supported their candidate financially over a certain small threshhold, because that info is a matter of public record. I know this because I stopped and weighed the loss of privacy vs. supporting my candidate of choice last year, before I hit the donate button. Some people seem to have gotten around this by using PO Boxes, but depending on who’s after the information, that only makes it a bit more difficult to get, not impossible.

      It may be that with #2 and #3, one can get #1 and #4 from some source that accepts a person’s address and employer as sufficient information to get that other info. Perhaps, “Hi, I’m Sue Green from {employer} and we need a background check on {name} at {address},” or something like that.

    • Zee

      Give me a flipping break.

      It sounds as if Obama took a page from FREEPER TACTICS and now Free Republic thinks they’re going to come to our rescue?

      Take your CAMPAIGN to get disaffected Dems into FREEPERVILLE elsewhere, Paul.

    • Mr.Murder

      Freepers will hack your comp if they can get away with it.

      They’ll false flag themselves just to cause trouble as well. They fake mailed powder, why not fake email hacks?

      I had to change an account name and service provider from them at a prior time. Tell them to go Parole another rapist for Huckabee, like Wayne Dumond.

      Jeromce Coursi, swift boat author, used to post there under the name ‘jrlc’ and he even included a correspondence he shared w/Huckabee in the parole letter writing campaign and petition drive.

      Huckabee’s band ‘Capitol Offense’ plays concerts for them in DC.

  • http://mccaindemocrats.wordpress.com/ 30yrdem-not any more

    Poll shows Biden didn’t help…
    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/24/cnn-poll-post-biden-poll-shows-dead-heat/

    “This looks like a step backward for Obama, who had a 51 to 44 percent advantage last month,” says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.

    • Kelley

      we are growing :)

    • Kelvin Hearts PUMAs

      Biden’s worth will be proven by his responses to any McCain attacks. Don’t worry PUMAs, It will all become clear very soon.

      • Kelley

        maybe you haven’t been watching this guy

        he’s no attack dog

        • http://nobho.blogspot.com/ Johnny at Work

          Biden is a walking gaffe machine. He’s the spiritual twin of Ibama where both channel the “Bedtime for Bonzo movie.

          Guess which one is Bonzo!

  • Soldier of Christ

    I think the Republicans need to concentrate on the fem guy from Oxy. T%he pakinstanee guy that he roomed with. When we saw him on camera, he was very fragile and looked like a crack head. I could be wrong, but, he seemed to be nervous and ran from the camera. This is the man who has to be paid off and shove somewhere from the Obama’s grip hold. Who knows maybe he has been paid off by Obama himself. I am sure that this guy “knows” everything about him. His two friends from college run away from the camera and they both are from where Ben Laden Osama came from. Isn’t that something?

    • Dr. Kate

      While Obama has not been up front about his bisexuality, I don’t think it is a good idea to focus on this for republicans. This way the republicans will get accused of being in the gutter, and lose support..

      there is way more out there than this. don’t play obama’s game.

      • maniaco

        Oxy = Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA

        pakinstanee = Pakistani

      • maniaco

        Learn to spell, “Soldier of F*cking Christ”
        After your trashing of Hillary in a previous post, I have no use or respect for anything you have to say until you apologize to her and us for that.

        In the remote chance that anyone pays any attention at all to any of your poorly written posts:

        Oxy = Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA

        pakinstanee = Pakistani

    • mimi

      When did this guy appear? Was it on tv or youtube?

      I never saw this.

  • PS

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyqnLpPTFco

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlYMSTP1CxY&feature=related

    Nothing may “change” this week but we have to make sure this man does not get nominated or elected to anything in our government again.

  • Gianni

    Well, although the Obama/Biden bloggers temporarily knocked Larry Sinclair offline…he’s back! Yep. No matter how hard they try to silence him, Larry Sinclair won’t be silenced. His new website is:

    http://larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com/

  • TriciaNC

    If you talk to Warren [Buffet], he’ll tell you his preference is not to meddle in the economy at all — let the market work, however way it’s going to work, and then just tax the heck out of people at the end and just redistribute it,” Obama said. “That way you’re not impeding efficiency, and you’re achieving equity on the back end.” He continued by saying that he thought there was some merit in Buffett’s argument.

    http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NDFhYTIwNjI4YzA1NDNkM2NhNjViZmVkOGRlMTYxMWU=

    • beebop

      Buffet has money in both campaigns.

  • PewL

    I think Obama should come out Thursday nite, and give a farewell speech,saying the Reason why he didn’t choose Clinton as his VP,is because she deserves more than that……That’s why I hand the reigns of the Nomination over to her…..

    THe Crowd Screams…….Obama exits the stage.Obama has left the building……..

    And the Conventions really begins to Party.lol

    • HARP

      Wake up….Wake up…you are having a dream. lol

      • PewL

        Harp
        I don’t want to wake up, I’m keeping my heart from having a heart attack, so I’m thinking positive things. lol

  • Soldier of Christ

    I remember Carter. I was a in my early twenties. I didnt’ voted for him even though I was democrat. I thought he was a weak peanut man- and now for sure I know that peanuts were part of his brain.

  • http://lesstalkmoreactivism.blogspot.com/ whoframedrudy

    I feel American voters have to own up to the Bush failures because ‘we the people’ elected/re-elected him as President for trivial reasons like ‘likability.’ That’s the big issue for me — will we take ownership of our failure in electing an unqualified President and learn from that disastrous mistake. In nominating Obama over Hillary, the Dems did the same thing the country did in picking Bush over Gore.

    Yes, Obama resembles Carter in substance. But his ‘political assets’ are similar to Bush, and his base acts just like Bush’s base.

    Would you like to have a beer with Putin? I wouldn’t. He’d probably slip cyanide in my drink just to keep in practice. But if I was Russian, I’d be totally down with Putin. I saw a joint press conference with Bush and Putin on Youtube — it was sad. You could see Russia was on its way up and we were on our way down.

  • HARP

    And people wonder what happened in the primary. Watch and see. Keep safe PUMAS.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D74Xs1VuYAE

  • JohninCA

    You think (and rightly so) that Biden is a gaffe gold mine?

    I remember Carter as the man who quoted his nine year old daughter Amy about nuclear proliferation.

    • MEchelle Hates America!

      I hated Carter then and now. Carter was a completely demoralizing President.

      I went years without eating peanuts and peanut butter in protest.

      Carter – a boob in an ugly sweater with an idiot brother.

      We had “Fuck Iran” parties – it was so awful.

      Rampant inflation, farm foreclosures, gas rationing, hostage crisis…

      What a jerk.

      He’s the guy like Oblowme with nothing but bad judgment, who talks you into disaster.

      Larry hit this one smack on the head with a hammer.

      And I’d rather get hit in the head with a hammer than go through another Carter/Oblowme Presidency.

      That’s what led to Reagan’s: “Let’s Make America Great Again” horseshit – the awfulness of Carter’s reign.

      • KJMontana

        “That’s what led to Reagan’s: “Let’s Make America Great Again” horseshit – the awfulness of Carter’s reign.”

        And that’s what’s led to Obama – a kneejerk reaction to the hideous GWB years. Thankfully more and more people are seeing “The One” for what he truly is – GWB with a vocabulary.

  • ugo

    Let us not follow the DNC like sheep. It is time you think for yourself.

    I will not cast my vote to make history.

    I will not cast my vote to fall in line.

    My vote, I will cast for a qualified candidate.

    I will vote a candidate with a record.

    I will vote for a candidate that I trust.

    I am not a blind follower if I fellow at all.

    I will not follow.

    My vote is mine, it does not belong to the DNC, and they do not earn it.

    I will be voting. We will not stay home. We will be voting.

    We will not be caught up with the group politics, we are individuals.

    We will vote for the politician, the candidate that has always put his country first. The record is there.

    Until you cast that vote, the power is yours, our dear Larry Johnson of NoQUARTERs has been say that all along. Listen

    Think.

  • HARP

    In July,
    Obama spent $55 million
    McCain spent $32 million
    Hillary did NOT Campaign.

    8/20/08 NBC/WSJ POLL:

    Obama 45% vs McCain 42%
    (+3 down from +6 in July)

    Clinton 49% vs. McCain 43%
    (+6 without even trying)

  • Kelley

    I watched a show about flight 93 tonite, and it reminded me of how that plane was likely going to fly into the capitol building. Biden might have been sitting in there, he might have been killed by that plane had not those brave souls fought for their lives.

    Now he wants to hand the controls to this country over to the likes of Obama, who’s good friend is a terrorist on the scale of those who hijacked that plane. Terrorists who actually DID bomb the capitol.

    We can tell that Obama has terrorist ties, and supports terrorist methods, by the way his campaign is being run, and the intimidation of those who oppose him.

    Those Obama followers are trying to get rid of corruption. But they are using more corrupt tactics!

    and the suprise is, they never even had to really do that. This is a Democratic year, a Dem was supposed to win the W.H. It’s like they can’t help themselves, corruption is in their blood.

  • CountryFirst

    Free ride over? I’m not sure. This was posted over at Greta Wire tonight and I think it’s frightening if it’s true:

    Caution for next week:

    A list has been generated by diehard Obama supporters (*DailyKos, MoveOn, and HuffingtonPost) to go after PUMAs (Hillary supporters) and Republicans that speak out against Obama online, TV, radio, and print.

    According to this person, information has already been gathered about these people: financial records, residential addresses, employer information, and a couple of the Obama supporters have even more personal information that is potentially damaging and obviously embarrassing.

    Any videos on YouTube that is unflattering to Obama will have a complaint filed against it. As of yesterday, this person stated some 1200 have been flagged at YouTube for a mass complaint sometime next week.

    Keep in mind, that none of this will go public as it is being done behind the scenes and none of these people want their name attached to it. Why? Some of this information is highly illegal and could be extremely damaging to the Obama campaign if they’re name is attached to it. If you believe that Obama’s people don’t know this is going on, think again.

    I’m not tech savvy enough, but can they stop the u-tube videos?

    • Kelley

      they can only stop the youtube videos by launching a massive complaint campaign.

      in order to subvert this, it may be wise to share this info with youtube so they will know what it is when it happens.

      another way is to copy the videos, so they can be re-uploaded under a different account. Just keep doing that until they get tired of trying, or youtube gets sick of listening.

      we could call it larrysinclairing it, because no matter what happens to larry he keeps popping up somewhere like whack-a-mole

      • beebop

        I would think that an assault on youtube would not go over well with his base … if they got wind of this, they would certainly have to open their eyes …

    • CountryFirst

      I can’t get registered over at youtube because of some glitch, so I quit trying. Can any else be sure youtube administration is warned that this might happen?

      My source information was a posting at 10:36 p.m. August 24, 2008, on a Greta Wire Open blog:
      http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/08/24/open-thread-351/#comments

  • http://www.liberalrapture.com/ John Smart

    The obama media orgy is probably over on friday. Good. What is so infuriating about the newsweek piece is that it is so late. Anyone who did basic research on BHO knew he was a pathetic man.

    What is so sickening and must never be forgotten is the media compliance in promoting an unworthy candidate. Reformation of the MSM must happen. Democracy cannot withstand more Obamas.

    McCain needs to choose Palin. If she does not have any skeletons she is a great pick and PUMAs will march over to McCain in lock step. I know I will.

    ALSO: Biden’s brother and son are being sued???? WTF?????

  • http://www.patriotroom.com Bill Dupray

    Convention Eve CNN Poll: Hillary Defections Hurting Obama

    http://patriotroom.com/?p=1386

  • http://panmetron.blogspot.com Pan Metron

    One good thing for me in this bizarre political year is that I’ve discovered and become a fan of the writings and insight of Sean Wilentz. Even moreso than Paul Krugman (who tends to be fairly issue-oriented), Wilentz has displayed an uncanny ability to cut through the hype and haze and describe what’s going on, both with an eye to the moment and to history.

    As glad am I am to read Wilentz as he continues his work, I’m equally dismayed by the utter inability of the great majority of pundits and so-called journalists to do likewise. In the past, I suspected that the press and media were biased, but this year has convinced me they’re worse than biased: they’re idiots.

    • CountryFirst

      If I could afford it, I would send every one of the msm organizations a funeral wreath to commemorate the death of unbiased, objective reporting!

  • PS

    Any correlation between Biden’s son & what’s happening with Sinclair AND Biden getting the nod for VP??

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=64828

    Cone’s brand of Christianity strongly denounces Christian practice that doesn’t take a specific political approach that is largely very liberal and liberation-focused.

    Wright’s Trumpet magazine is filled with Cone-style views on Christianity.

    Wright denounces “colored preachers” who don’t subscribe to black liberation theology as people who “hate themselves, who hate Black people, who desperately want to be white and who write and say stupid things in public to make ‘Masa’ feel safer.”

  • JozefAL

    The biggest problem that Carter had was that he genuinely was a TRUE liberal. The BS about “didn’t understand that the Soviets were bad people, capable of duplicity” is BECAUSE he wanted to believe the best of people, not the worst. Carter was (and, by all accounts, still is) a Christian in the very best sense of the word. His Christian values formed Carter’s very core beliefs (especially with Lillian Carter’s guidance).
    Carter, contrary to what you may think, was NOT “taking us to the poor house”. Carter inherited a fiscal mess brought on by the 1973 oil embargo (that was a full 3 years before Carter was elected to office) and heightened largely because of the flawed economic programs instituted by Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford (remember WIN?–that was a FORD policy) but also because of worldwide inflation, again largely brought on by the 1973 Arab oil embargo. Carter was the one who tried to get Americans to conserve energy–the first peacetime American President who called for the public to change their energy habits (fuel conservation was a major part of the overall WWII policy of fighting the Axis–save fuel at home so the tanks and planes could have it). But, again, Carter believed that Americans would make the sacrifices necessary because he wanted to believe the best of people.
    I offer that Carter’s desire to believe in the best of people is the main reason that he’s been so supportive of Obama. Carter grew up in the deeply segregated South and became the first Governor of Georgia to go public with his close friendships with African-Americans (at both the personal and professional levels). He’s certainly seen the worst of people (of all ethnicities) but he desperately wants to believe in the best (I really think that he’d give someone a dozen chances before finally giving up of them).
    I’m tired of this continual badmouthing of Carter. Carter could have won re-election in 1980 had two factors not come into play. First, there was Carter’s loss of the evangelical Christians (most had been disappointed by his 1976 interview with “Playboy” but admired the man’s honesty and conviction of purpose in giving the interview, but when they saw that Carter didn’t allow his religious convictions to guide his every action as President, they felt a sense of betrayal). Second, and more importantly, was the Reagan team’s “October Surprise”. By holding talks with Iranian representatives to delay releasing the hostages until after the election, the Reagan people managed to keep Carter from redeeming the biggest black mark on his record (most research indicates that Iran’s leaders–including, most importantly, the Ayatollah–wanted to return the hostages because they were becoming a liability as Iran was faced with defending itself against the recent invasion by Iraq). Even worse, the scheme was worked out so that the hostages wouldn’t actually board the plane until Reagan was being sworn in and timed so that they would be leaving Iranian air space as Reagan began his inaugural speech; this meant that Carter was left with a permanent black mark on his record.
    I tell you what, though. Just as soon as Barack Obama develops a REAL set of core values–a set that he fervently believes in and is willing to stand up for without going back on, no matter what*–then you can make the comparisons to Carter. Until then, back off with this “Obama = Carter” garbage.

    *Carter, don’t forget, became the first President who made human rights the centerpiece of his administration and he held fast to those values. His call to recognize human rights cost him a great deal of support within the CIA which believed support for a right-wing dictator was far more important than worrying about some poor guy whose testicles were being hooked up to a car battery or some poor woman who was being raped by some secret police “interrogator”. I didn’t agree with Carter’s decision to pull out of the 1980 Summer Olympics (I even wrote a letter to the White House expressing my dismay) but I had to respect his commitment to human rights and his disdain of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

    • bmc

      Many thanks to John and JosefAL for their comments about Carter. He was a great president in many ways, but has been branded so negatively by the right-wing for so many years, that most people don’t even remember WHY he was elected in the first place. NIXON. This country desperately wanted an ethical man of integrity to lead this country after the Republicans–once again–had destroyed it.

      We got a man of integrity, and ethical man, an honest broker with a moral core. Jimmy Carter. Yes, he made many mistakes. But, he also gave the military a 10%-14% increase in pay, too, I know because my family is military. It was the largest increase in pay EVER in one year. And, they deserved it. Others here have commented on other strengths and qualities in Jimmy Carter, so I won’t repeat them.

      But, I really HATE the politics of smear that continues to denigrate and demean a very good man, who continues to show that he has a moral center and a backbone of steel when it comes to human rights, and he’s not ashamed to take a stand on that issue, despite the right-wing smear mongering that berates him for it until even progressives have internalized those smears as if they have some merit!

  • plural

    Thank you for posting this really excellent piece by Sean Wilentz.

  • Kelley

    What have you heard about Gwatney?