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If Obama Loses: A Response to Jacob Weisberg

In 1993, feminist alt-rocker Liz Phair released Exile in Guyville, a song-to-song response to The Rolling Stones’ superb Exile on Main Street.

I’ve been thinking about Liz Phair’s response to the rockin’ but boorish Rolling Stones after reading Jacob Weisberg’s If Obama Loses: Racism is the Only Reason McCain Might Beat Him in Slate. Unlike Phair, I won’t attempt a point-by-point rebuttal; Weisberg’s piece is so riddled with distortions and hyperbole that a laundry list argument cannot summarize my feelings.

Weisberg’s article is so bad on so many levels that it’s amazing it was published at all, but it does fit with the media’s love affair with Obama. It’s a deceptive piece of writing and it relies on faulty logic, which I show below. But of course that is not an accident. A strident media partisan like Weisberg cannot rely on facts. So let’s start from the beginning:

John McCain, a sub-par Republican nominee with a list of liabilities longer than a Joe Biden monologue. Obama has built a crack political operation, raised record sums, and inspired millions with his eloquence and vision. McCain has struggled with a fractious campaign team, lacks clarity and discipline, and remains a stranger to charisma. Yet at the moment, the two of them appear to be tied. What gives?

Weisberg overstates the effectiveness of Obama’s operation. The trip to Europe, the faux presidential seal, his many policy reversals, and his disastrous debate performance at Saddleback are not mentioned.

Now notice how Hillary’s name is not mentioned. Nor the fact that 18 million voters chose her, approximately 200,000 more than chose Obama. Obama did not win a decisive victory. He was pulled over the finish line by Reid and Pelosi.

In fact, Obama as a brand has actually been declining — if you look at primary results and polls — since March. McCain, on the other hand, has actually run a surprisingly nimble operation, releasing ads which deflate the self-important Obama.

He continues:

If you break the numbers down, the reason Obama isn’t ahead right now is that he trails badly among one group, older white voters. He does so for a simple reason: the color of his skin.

This would be a shocking conclusion if it were true. Older white voters, Weisberg is telling us, are racists. What’s his evidence?

Five percent of white voters acknowledge that they, personally, would not vote for a black candidate.

Five percent? Repeat. Five percent. Is Weisberg innumerate or does he think we’re stupid? That means 95 percent will not take race into consideration. Does this satisfy Weisberg? Of course not.

Five percent surely understates the reality. In the Pennsylvania primary, one in six white voters told exit pollsters race was a factor in his or her decision. Seventy-five percent of those people voted for Clinton. You can do the math: 12 percent of the Pennsylvania primary electorate acknowledged that it didn’t vote for Barack Obama in part because he is African-American.

Here he assures us that the number he just cited is wrong. Why did he cite the five percent to then just swat it down? Because it doesn’t serve the necessary condition of his argument; in fact, it refutes his thesis. Weisberg’s logic is not just twisted, it’s fabricated. Furthermore, just because Pennsylvania voters said race was a factor does not mean they view it as a problem. Indeed, the language of the polling is so vague that the race factor may have been Pennsylvanians voting for Obama because of his race. Does Weisberg mention Obama’s victory in lily-white Iowa ?, a state which is less diverse than Pennsylvania. No. Nor does he mention any of the deep-red and very white caucus states where Obama won. Because, as he says with a bit of sarcasm, “Obama may be too handsome, brilliant, and cool to be elected.” You see, Obama is really so wonderful that it must be racism.

Not once does Weisberg mention the sexism and misogyny directed at Hillary. Not once does he mention Hillary’s decidedly blue-collar appeal, her populist economic message, and the older, white female voters who fell hard for her. No, these ladies (and men) must be racists.

Except for health care, Weisberg does not consider issues important to older white voters:

You may or may not agree with Obama’s policy prescriptions, but they are, by and large, serious attempts to deal with the biggest issues we face: a failing health care system, oil dependency, income stagnation, and climate change.

He is silent on national security and terrorism, international relations, the solvency of Social Security and Medicare, job creation, and fuel prices. Weisberg’s litany, like Obama’s, is a distinctly Whole Foods Nation brand of liberalism, and it fails to address the economic insecurities of the poor and middle class. The blogger Anglachel writes:

Where has Obama lost ground among Democratic voters? In the populations most endangered by the faltering economy and the long term erosion of socio-economic standing. He did not address what mattered most to them, which was their increasing vulnerability to the ordinary dangers of life – insurance, health care, retirement, wages, job security, housing. To fail to do this was what makes Obama come across as elitist.

McCain is talking about drilling to reduce gas prices, and charging Obama with wanting to raise taxes. This message is gaining traction with many working Americans. As Anglachel puts it:

The [Obama] wing is all too enamored of its own moral superiority on race, too contemptuous of the Bubbas and the Bunkers, to make the slightest move to win back and thus defend this constituency.

Weisberg utterly fails to prove that the race is tied because of racism.

So let’s talk about what a vote for Obama actually signals: voting for Obama is condoning a culture that hates women (Keith Olbermann’s idea for Beating Hillary: Literally Beating Hillary). It’s a tacit acceptance for the media and the Democratic establishment giving preference to a far less qualified man over a much more qualified woman. It’s telegraphing to our daughters — to all women — that a man is rightfully at the front of the line, regardless if he lost nearly every important state and the popular vote. It’s telling our daughters — and all women — that violent imagery against a female candidate is acceptable if it benefits the male candidate. It is the familiar salt-in-the-wound for millions of women, the majority of the Democratic Party, that bullying and force — by the media, the liberal blogs, by the Democratic Party — is the way to crush a woman who tries to achieve too much.

Voting for Obama is to support a candidate who listens to and publicly references music which celebrates the degradation and abuse of women.

Voting for Obama is condoning race-baiting, like Weisberg’s. It’s accusing Hillary of suggesting that she was waiting for Obama to be assassinated because she mentioned RFK’s assassination in reference to the length of past campaigns when the media was trying to force her out; it’s having your surrogates imply that President Clinton’s remarks about Obama’s Iraq statements was racist (even producing a memo describing the plan), and it’s using coded language like “bamboozled” to mostly African Americans audiences in order to dislodge their support from the Clintons.

Voting for Obama is to embrace using race as a divisive strategy in a Democratic campaign.

Voting for Obama is being party to a rigged election. It condones voter intimidation, caucus fraud, and gaming your opponent’s states. It’s voting for outright bias by Party leaders like Dean, Pelosi, and Brazile. It’s an intentional violation of the one person, one vote ideal.

Voting for Obama is embracing intentional voter disenfranchisement.

Weisberg insists that Obama has a progressive agenda. But there’s nothing in the way Obama conducts his campaigns that would give us that idea. Many of us, Hillary supporters like myself, will vote for McCain because Obama’s treatment of Hillary goes against everything we believe in. And I want the Democratic Party to repudiate his tactics, and their own. Obama’s supporters must, some day, listen carefully to the very real reasons of why we’re angry, and they need to examine their consciences over their silence on the sexism towards Hillary and Obama’s race-baiting strategy.

Weisberg is wrong: Obama may lose because he conducted a despicable primary campaign, and he failed to offer a compelling economic message during the General Election.

  • Kal

    BO will lose because he is not a democrat, not a Democrat, and the gaming and corruption has to be stopped now.

  • pacman

    Obama had me for about 2 weeks after he announced his candidacy. After I was abruptly thrown out of Daily Kos for questioning his stance on nuclear energy, I started to take a deeper look at all three of our candidates.
    Oh, and also, I remembered I was a racist.

  • NomNomNom

    The day BHO pulled his name from the Mi ballot was the day he lost any chance at ever gaining my vote in any election; the same for Biden, Edwards, Richardson, and Kucinich for trying: disenfranchisement of voters should never be acceptable campaign strategy.
    Clinton was not my first choice of candidate, but when I got to vote in NC there was a choice of Clinton and Obama. I’m glad I voted for her: she turned out to be the best and most ethical Democrat candidate; better than my intended candidate by a long shot.
    I’m now registered independent and will vote for McCain in 2008 and Clinton in 2012 should she choose to run again. I hope that she does.
    BHO fans: you can just bite me.

  • harvey

    I hope Obama never “gets it” and figures out what caused him to lose, assuring us we will never have to even consider this thug again.

  • Blue Intrigue

    Or maybe Weisberg didn’t mention Hillary because she’s not in the race?

    Your concern for women is touching but why didn’t you mention McCain’s misogyny? His latest example was appearing at a high school with a rapper whose biggest hit is about a girl who likes semen and hard c*cks. I’m not foolish enough to think that any of you will vote for Obama but are you really willing to vote for somebody who stands for everything that Hillary is against?

  • beebop

    The REALLY sad column today continues to be Howdy Dowdy. She is taking a pasting in the comments portion — thank God. When do they have to turn their journalism credentials (gag) in?

  • harvey

    Is Hillary “against” Obama? Of course not . But I am.

  • destardi

    Oh, then you might wanna let Ludacris know it’s not ok to call a sitting US Senator an “irrelevant bitch”.

    Then, you might want to check up on Pfleger and his calling of Jews

    “Let’s remind everyone that Pfleger backed up Farrakhan in a 2006 controversy over some remarkable Farrakhan bile. Pfleger criticized a mass resignation of Jewish members on a state of Illinois hate crimes commission: http://www.nbc5.com/news/7782149/detail.html?rss=chi&psp=news
    Pfleger said “good riddance” to the people who had left the commission. “Leave, go ahead and go on out, we don’t need that kind of a spirit or mentality and a narrowness on that kind of commission. I’m glad they’re gone,” Pfleger said.
    What was the issue? A member of the commission, Sister Claudette Marie Muhammad, was the Nation of Islam’s minister of protocol.
    [She] “was under the radar until she invited other commissioners to attend a Farrakhan speech last month. Criticism of Muhammad mounted after the speech, which included references to “Hollywood Jews” promoting homosexuality and “other filth.”

    Also, don’t forget about WRight’s RIDICULOUS 1980 DANGEROUS thinking that HIV was created by the US government. WTF!?!?!?!

  • Roxanne

    “he is not a democrat”…

    Is it any wonder why you guys lost? Hillary and her loyalists neglected to take Barack’s candidacy seriously; and therefore, wound up defeated by a virtual political novice.

    I mean …how do you justify her loss to a newbie?????
    What happened to that feared, infinitismal ‘Clinton power structure’on the Hill?

    Instead of making ridiculous statements about our next president, you should spend more time familiarizing yourself with his positions.

  • Bud White

    Or maybe Weisberg didn’t mention Hillary because she’s not in the race?

    about 25% of Hillary voters won’t back Obama. That’s why it’s relevant

  • Kal

    You know, in a contest for most misogynist, I think BO wins. Not excusing JMcC, but given the Dem platform since JFK re women, its way worse coming from BO. Way worse.

  • A SLAP IN THE FACE

    Hillary was very clear last night about what we are supposed to do – and that is to vote for John McCain! Her message was delivered in thinly veiled code – anyone with a brain could see this! SHEESH!

    A vote for Obama will be putting a dru**ie, murdering, INEXPERIENCED, election stealer in office. He is a documented racist and elitist, and is not even an American CITIZEN! He stomps on the flag, and has terrorists as freinds. If Obama wins we will lose in Iraq, be ruled by Muslims, and have to pay more for GASOLINA! Millions of babies will be destroyed in the womb, and we will be acquiesing into a patriachical machine that keeps women under its feet.

    A vote for McCain will be a vote for character, hard work, AMERICAN VALUES, and a person that everyone can relate to. John McCain is an AMERICAN HERO, who spent five years in a bamboo cage, for fighting bravely against COMMUNIST TERRORISTS. His wife Cindy regualrly travels to some of the poorest parts of the globe in order to cure cleft lips.

    This is a easy choice for most – but I guess not for people who HATE AMERICA!

  • roseeriter

    What positions??? The LIE position? The FRAUD position? The make believe position??

    Bushbots same as Obamabots- DELUSIONAL!

    NOBAMA

  • harvey

    Still a couple of months to go. By that time after all the trash comes on on Obama,–IF–that in fact is still his legal name, maybe another 25% of his own followers may fall away.

  • http://www.downwithabsolutes.com Mike

    “No Way! No How! No McCain!”

  • Hope Floats

    It looks like McCain will be the next president. The Democratic party has shrunk.

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Hell, I was called a racist over at KOS just for asking for “No dem on dem” violence…those days are gone. Barky and the DNC and the Obamabits can go up in flames and I’d just kick back and roast marshmellows at this point.

  • Kelvin Hearts PUMAs

    The only way they can justify her loss is by concocting falsehoods about Obama and his citizenship or how he cheated her. He didn’t, but don’t tell them that.

  • A SLAP IN THE FACE

    Actually Roxanne, we WON! 18 million votes, baby. Obama stole the nomination, by taking money donations from terrorists, and brainwashing and bussing large numbers of easily manipulated college kids and blacks into Caucus states. Having the MSM as a henchman certainly didn’t help.

    But it doesn’t matter. Either a) Hillary wins the nom back during a roll call vote at the converntion (the people will revolt) or b) McCain wins and gives Hillary a role in his cabinet, maybe even the VP.

    Either way, we win, you LOSE!

  • JML

    By November, my prediction is 7 out of 10 Americans will loathe him.

    McCain in a landslide, whether I personally vote for him or not. You can’t stop an avalanche.

  • harvey

    What did JFK say? “Ask not what your country can do for you, BUT what can you do for your country.”

    However Obama’s wife says in one of her rants, “Hey give us something over here”.

    “GIVE” being the key word.

  • Blue Intrigue

    Did Obama endorse Ludacris? Of course not. McCain appeared with Daddy Yankee at a high school. And if you’re going to talk about Pflegler and Wright, you may want to think about McCain’s association with Hagee and Parsley.

  • Hope Floats

    And the point of the convention was supposed to be so the delegates appointed to the states, pledged delegates, could vote. The Democratic party doesn’t care about voting anymore. They don’t even care about winning. This is way too late in this election to be telling people to “get over it.” If your candidate didn’t encourage you in this stupid strategy, you would just GIVE IT A REST.

  • Annie Oakley

    Thank you. I am so glad we have writers like you to give us voice. This quote from Anglachel:

    The [Obama] wing is all too enamored of its own moral superiority on race, too contemptuous of the Bubbas and the Bunkers, to make the slightest move to win back and thus defend this constituency.

    This is one of his biggest problems in my opinion. We waited 8 long years to have a traditional democrat who would fight for us as we sink in a globalized economy, and instead we get a guy who claims he is a citizen of the world. We, who are holding on, need a president for us. Obama isn’t.

    But being committed to the working people of this country would be in the category of first doing no harm. Obama is so much worse than that. He is a good old boy of minority politics. He will pretend to do good only to capture more of the tax revenue stream for his branch of corruption. He will bring the Illinois Combine – which is about money, not race or party – to Washington, and that is why I will not vote for him.

    But Mr. Weisberg is stuck on Bubba.

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Spoken like a true Bushbot, er Obamabit. And there’s no way Barky can win the patriot vote with Rev. Wright Goddamn America and Michelle for the first time in my life I’m proud of my country. Bonehead. Besides I don’t vote for cokeheads.

  • Kelvin Hearts PUMAs

    I want to see all the evidence you have supporting these allegations and not something you found on some obscure website.

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    We really don’t give a flying fuck what you want, in fact if you choked on your tongue and died in your mommy’s basement no one here would notice or care.

  • roseeriter

    Falsehoods?? Obamabots as delusional as Bushbots!

    Democracy does not support Fraud or caucuses.

    Obama SUCKS!! And so do you BOTS LMAO!! LOSERS!!!

  • harvey

    “YES HE CAN” And he will. :)

  • destardi

    You’re a joke.

    His position on FISA: It’s OKKKK to spy willy nilly on people; it’s OKKKKK to weaken United States civil rights.

    His position on Dick Cheney’s energy bill: Sock it to the little people; here’s more billions Exxon! Let the peasants eat cake!

    His position on offshore drilling: Suuuure it’s ok to spoil pristine waters and land, help yourself Exxon!

    His position on racebaiting: “Hillary’s unfortunate comments regarding MLK and LBJ; damn white bitch!” (See, wright, pfleger, farrakhan, MEchelle’s thesis, and her brothers thesis!)

    Why DIDN’T MEchelle and the kids visit white grandma during their trip to Hawaii?

    Did YOU live in Chicago? I have…Do YOU know the Daley’s? I DO.

    You suck “roxanne.”

  • Blue Intrigue

    But McCain’s misogyny is not relevant? I think if you’re going to accuse somebody of being deceptive and using faulty logic for omitting certain facts, you shouldn’t employ the same tactics in your rebuttal.

  • roseeriter

    I was called a GENDER voter and a sexist for supporting Hillary at dkos. THEY”RE THE RACISTS AND MISOGYNISTS And still are dissing Hillary over there today.

    I Hate dkos kossacks!

  • Ms J of FL

    amen! it’s the “little” things that count to women. we’re not all that complicated. we don’t get confused easily. we have extreeeemly long memory.
    to the Stepford “boys” who are out in force today. don’t think your boy Barky is going to bring back the Inquisition by vote (that was all about women too).
    I VOTE FOR MCCAIN.

  • wac for hillary

    He needs to stop changing his positions long enough for us to figure out what his true positions are–if he actually has any other than self-promotion.

  • JML

    Obama has built a cracked-up political operation, raised record slums, and spent millions on his eloquence and vision.

    Fixed for Weisberg.

  • destardi

    the only way he can win is by invoking race!

    Truth:

    http://mediamatters.org/items/200801130004

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/12/obama-camps-memo-on-clin_n_81205.html

    “New York State Senator Bill Perkins used quite explicit racial stereotyping in a speech aimed at discouraging his constituents from voting for Clinton by saying, Harlem “is not Bill Clinton’s backyard or his plantation. Underscore, plantation.”

    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/did_clinton_darken_obamas_skin.html

    “If Obama didn’t want to be compared to Jesse Jackson, maybe he shouldn’t have put R&B in his SC advertisements, shouldn’t have sent black-only emissaries to the Black SC community, and should have put Wright, who was doing the rounds, on pause. The message in South Carolina put out by Obama’s campaign, whether the media wanted to ignore it or not, was “Vote for me I am Black.” To then come back and smash Bill Clinton for mentioning Jesse Jackson, that’s audacity; Axelrod made this clear through his surrogates, while he had Obama say that what the Clintons’ said was “unfortunate.”

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91769883

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQY_9ZcsjpQ&feature=related%3cbr

    suck it up kelvin.

  • roseeriter

    Democrats are suppose to be the good guys with the big tent- NOT ANYMORE since DNC SELECTED OBAMA Illegally, fraudently.

    Obamabots same as BUSHBOTS-both do not practice DEMOCRACY! HYPOCRITS of the worse kind.

    NOBAMA EVER!

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/PaulFVillarreal Paul F. Villarreal

    Thank you, Bud White. Outstanding, as usual.

    Weisberg’s garbage needed to be smacked down, as you did so well here. NO MORE race card bullspit.

    McCain has a new ad out about Obama and Iran:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoInGweTipA

  • harvey

    I’m an early number in that 7 in 10. :) . Obama has turned me into a solid hater of ANYTHING that is LEFT of Hillary Clinton’ ideals.

  • destardi

    Did McCain attend this rapper’s concerts for 20 years?

  • wac for hillary

    I thought the convention was supposed to show party unity. I don’t know about you, but I’ve had all the “party unity” from this bunch that I can stand.

  • bmc

    And, 95% of black voters will vote for Barack Obama. No one ever mentions that; no one ever questions their reasoning, it’s just ACCEPTED as if a black voter voting for a black candidate just because he’s black, is completely understandable. Conversely, any white voter who chooses another candidate based on issues, or character, or experience, is continually called “racist.”

    Well, I’ll tell ya, I’m so damned sick and tired of having the “racist” epithet thrown at me–as a Clinton supporter–that I’m becoming more biased by the day. I’m sick of Roland and Donna and all the rest of them implying that THEIR candidate–the black candidate–is “historic” but my vote isn’t needed, doesn’t count, I should just “stay home” on election day because they don’t need me. But, if I don’t vote for their candidate–the black candidate–then I’m a “racist.”

    Fuck ‘em. I’m not voting for their candidate–the black candidate–because he’s immature, narcisstic, inexperienced, a liar, arrogant, a con-artist who has charmed his way through life, and a neo-Republican corporatist no different from the other party.

    We had the BEST candidate for this election. They wanted the BLACK candidate. So, they are the racists, not me.

    Weisberg’s article infuriated me when I read it and it infuriates me all over again when I remember reading it. It’s people like Weisberg, and the left-authoritarianist boy bloggers who hurt Obama–the black candidate–the most, and may cost him the election.

  • Skiron

    Now that’s hilarious – thanks for the laugh! The idea that delegates will revolt and nominate Hillary. Even more funny, that McCain would be daft enough to put her in his cabinet, or VP???…priceless!

  • http://medusa2.wordpress.com Medusa

    Thanks Bud, great piece.

    Weisberg must be a 20-something fluffer, keeping the koolaid addicts riled up and eager to race-bait.

    If BO loses, and I’m committed to doing everything I can to help him lose, it will be because Americans can see through his hoax of a persona.

    BO is an inexperienced, crooked and empty-suited puppet created by a corrupted Democratic party.

    NO BO, EVER!

    Defeat BO and purge the party of the neoliberals and the so-called progressives.

  • Shiloh

    Obama will lose big because he has been exposed as a scared little boy, unsure of who is mommy and daddy were, who spent much of his life searching for some identity and found that identity in the hateful race politics of Wright and Farrakahn. That and the sad fact that he has no experience which even remotely qualifies him for the job.

  • Ms J of FL

    you’re right about the “slums”. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDHsHM0laT8

  • Roxanne

    And there is a place for people that have a problem accepting reality. They are air conditioned offices with couches and professionals who don ph.d on their lapels.

    too funny..

  • rw

    “Hillary and her loyalists neglected to take Barack’s candidacy seriously;”

    correction: neglected to believe Barack’s corrupt, third world political behind-the-scene tactics seriously.

  • wac for hillary

    Exactly! Remember when the Democratic Party stood for “one person, one vote”. Now it’s just the Republican Party of 2000 and 2004 with the mantra of the end justifies the means. I want the old Democratic Party back, and the only way to start getting it back is to make sure Obama and the DNC elites who have pushed this unqualified boob on us do not win.

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Morons, Slap in the Face is a mole. You two are too stupid to pick up on it. Typical bots.

  • Blue Intrigue

    Ludacris was 11 twenty years ago; Jay Z didn’t start his career until 1996. So whose concerts has Obama been attending for twenty years?

  • http://medusa2.wordpress.com Medusa

    ROTFALMAO

    Guess where Jacob Weisberg is from? Ready……

    CHICAGO!

    His father was lawyer/judge there and his mother a “social activist.”
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Weisberg

    Guess what?
    Slate is part of the Obama campaign. Weisberg and Lithwick are both editors!!!!!!

  • harvey

    If you read the latest slime out on Obama’s Mentor–FRANK– then you can easily understand why Obama is so screwed up in his thinking and even why he is the misogynist that he is. If my mom had best friends like FRANK I might have a low opinion of women too.

  • http://www.thepiratescove.us William Teach

    Excellent breakdown of the idiot at Slate, Bud.

    Barry will not lose because of racism. He will lose because he is a wholly unqualified candidate, whose message of hope and change and not much else but pretty words is not longer working during the general election season, when people want to know more about policy. Barry’s big issue, health care, has pretty much fallen of the edge of the map in the Barry campaign. His dalliences with unrepentant terrorists and race baiters does not resonate with the average American, nor his elitist ways.

    Is McCain and elite? Yup. But he doesn’t act it like Barry does.

    Quite frankly, if it wasn’t for reverse racism (and a few other things,) Hillary would be the nominee. (PS: I am a McCain supporter). I Barack was white, he would be trailing massively in the polls.

  • http://IthinkIfeel... Tricia Spiegel

    Yay, Bud. This post is a 10 plus! Excellent.

  • eurogirl70

    Oh,

    we should spend time familiarizing ourselves with his positions?

    What exactly are his positions? He was against the war in 2002, and said he didn’t know how he would have voted on the Iraq war resolumtion in 2004. Then he said in 2003 that there was not much of a difference between his own policy and Bush’s (at that time)

    He was then for a 60-100 day pullout. He has since gone back on that position. He also thinks, unlike Hillary, that we may need to keep hired mercenaries like Blackwater (who is owned by a man who is a diehard Republican end-of days freak), on the ground.

    He was then against blanket immunity for the telecom industry but voted in favor of FISA, which gives the industry just that; blanket immunity for wiretapping without a warrant. (Could it be dear Roxanne that one of his “closest” advisors is the former lead counsel and lobbyist for the telemcom industry?)

    He is for “green technology” but has no plan in place for creating it or supporting it. He did however vote for the Bush/Cheney Energy bill which neither McCain nor Clinton voted for. This bill is was one of the most poorly crafted pieces of legislation ever and was nothing more than a give away to the oil industry.

    He was against off-shore drilling until the people of FL were for it and he thought, like with the shitty ethenol lobby in Iowa, he could score a few brownie points with a state that he disenfranchised, ran ads in, refused to have a re-election in, and now has sat at full strength at the DNC convention.

    He is “supposedly” for gay rights but he had former AA San Francisco mayor Willie Brown throw a fundraiser for him and told him he wanted no pictures taken with him and current SF mayor Gavin Newsome, who is straight but supports gay marriage. Did not attend the Chicago gay pride parade; parades which Hillary in NYC and even Nancy Peolosi in SF attend yearly. He also goes on stage with his little religious freakshow, comprised of Donnie McGurkin who claims that JEEESUS cured him of his homosexulaity!

    He claims that he is for universal healthcare, but his healthcare plan would leave between 15-30 million off the rolls. That is not universal by any sane persons estimation and with currently 43 million Americans living without health insurance, it certainly makes not dent in the current problems.

    Do you ever wonder dear Roxanne why he is so popular with the likes of Arianna Huffington, Andrew Sullivan, John Aravosis, and Markos? Because they are NOT bloody Democrats they are bleeding Libertarians!

    Now would you please go and read a book and educate yourself. I have been to Obama’s website and quite frankly it reads like a college thesis papermill, where papers can be purchased and you can sign your name but you, yourself did not write a word. How do I know this? I have seen Obama try and answer any question posed to him in a succinct in-depth manner without use of a teleprompter. I have not been witness to such an occurrence yet.

    When he was asked a question at the faith forum, his response was “that is above my pay grade”! He could not be more George W. Bush-like if he tried.

  • Sassy

    Hell yes, I’m a racist!
    I LOVE white people!
    A despicable campaign…absolutely!
    A definite loser…absolutely!
    Go McCain! A true American!

  • Roxanne

    thank you for your thought provoking commentary. SNARK

    At least you guys aren’t a monolithic group. Some say he’s too lib, some say he’s a socialist, some say he leans too right.

    But at least we all agree that he will be our next president!

    And yes i do like to suck lolipops, thankyou.

    The coconut dum-dums are my favorite.

  • Dr. Kate

    yawn. go read you jerk, do your own homework.

  • DanO

    The trolls are unusually common this time of year.

  • Michelle

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    DNC Wrap-Up Day Two: It’s Hillary’s Convention Now
    Barack Obama is an Afterthought.

    Posted by: Mark Impomeni

    Wednesday, August 27, 2008 at 08:00AM

    The second night of the Democratic National Convention prior to Sen. Hillary Clinton’s speech was nearly as unmemorable as day one. And an interesting pattern has emerged in all of the main speakers’ remarks. Barack Obama is an accessory, an add-on, a superfluous reference tucked in on the end of a litany of the speaker’s accomplishments and beliefs. There is almost no discussion of the nominee as a man separate and distinct from the speaker. Rather, he is a concept, an ethereal being, an abstraction. It is almost as if the speakers are deliberately trying to distance themselves from Obama, at his own convention.

    Hillary Clinton was the star of the evening in a big way. So much so that she appears to have taken the convention by force, and will hold it for at least one more day.

    Sen. Robert Casey of Pennsylvania got things started with a thoroughgoing and dull speech in which he mostly talked about his father. Casey gets credit for mentioning his disagreement with Obama on abortion; and he at least tried to rile up the crowd with some decent attacks on the Bush Administration and John McCain. But the crowd wasn’t entirely into it. They were anticipating greater things to come. Two hours in, David Gergen was once again on CNN, lamenting the lack of anything memorable happening in Denver.

    Former Virginia Governor and likely its next Senator Mark Warner was the keynoter and he was dreadfully awful. It is actually hard to put into words just how bad, boring, and trivial his speech was. Warner must think he is a Senator already as his speech was full of incredible nothingness. He prattled on about how this was an election about th future, which he said is more important than a presidential election. He talked about his tenure as governor, praised his management of the state, bragged on his success in business, and just for good measure tossed in an Obama every couple of paragraphs or so. There was no energy in the arena during his address. Many view Warner as the 2012 front runner in the event of an Obama loss in November. Viewed in that light, this speech was his 2012 concession.

    With Warner finished, anticipation in the hall began to grow for Sen. Clinton, the real headliner of the night. Before she took the stage, however, there was a speech from Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius, who demonstrated completely why she is not Barack Obama’s running mate. There was also a surprise keynote from Montana Governor Brian Schweitzer. His was an energy packed speech about energy policy. He was animated, connected with the crowd, and genuinely fun to watch. It was not the keynote listed in the schedule, but it was far and above a better one that Warner managed to deliver.

    Then it was Hillary’s turn. Clinton delivered a real stemwinder of an address, recounting her primary campaign, and pointedly not conceding. She delivered the requisite declarations of support for Sen. Obama. But in a twenty minute plus speech, Clinton only managed to mention him by name 10 times. Like the rest of the speakers, the mentions of Obama came not in the context of anything he would actually do as president, but in a “him too” kind of way. The typical formulation can be seen in this passage from the prepared text.

    I ran for President to renew the promise of America. To rebuild the middle class and sustain the American Dream, to provide the opportunity to work hard and have that work rewarded, to save for college, a home and retirement, to afford the gas and groceries and still have a little left over each month…
    Most of all, I ran to stand up for all those who have been invisible to their government for eight long years.

    Those are the reasons I ran for President. Those are the reasons I support Barack Obama. And those are the reasons you should too.

    Except that when she delivered it, she left out the last line. Sen. Clinton’s speech was about her campaign, not the coming one. When it was over, Bill Kristol called it a “shockingly minimal endorsement of Barack Obama.”

    Barack Obama has no presence at this convention. He is not physically there, and he is not oft discussed. His name is used like a drug to placate the seething masses of delegates, administered in small enough doses to keep them wanting for more. But it never comes. Clinton stepped into this atmosphere, and took over. The convention is now about her. She is who everyone is talking about; and she will continue to be the topic after tomorrow night, with the roll call of the states and former President Bill Clinton’s speech. Tonight, Clinton laid down a marker on 2012 and a gauntlet for Thursday night, when Obama will have to equal her performance. He had better be good or he will leave Denver with the nomination, but without the mantle of leader of the Democratic Party.

    http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/aug/27/dnc-wrap-day-two-its-hillarys-convention-now/

  • harvey

    I would have voted for Colin Powell, before he bowed down to GW Bush and lied for him on WMDs thing. Anyone who makes choices according to skin color would be shit out of luck if they were color blind. 50–50 at best.

  • http://mmb silverfox

    roxanne….

    darling, what planet do you really reside on?

    barack was soundly beaten by Hillary, more than 200,000 votes actually; the disruption and obuse of the democratic process at caucuses is now a film. please do view it at your first convenience. it’s the perfect antidote to the kool-aid.

    we won’t even go into the chicago machine that obama fronts for. they are a rough bunch and i wouldn’t want to be on their bad side. so. i’ll leave that task to you, should you have any inclination to avail yourself to the truth.

    then there’s the little caveat of buying superdelegates with money from back door men like george soros( aguy who quite dislikes America), wall street bundlers(many whose firms represent some of the biggest lobbying firms in the biz), one could go on and on, but i’ll leave that investigative task to you.

    as for mr bobo’s positions…..you’ve got to be kidding me. right?

    the “selected” nominee will lose the GE because he is the weakest cadidate on the block. however, i may be mis speaking here as the thugs who will most likely be “counting”the votes will be the very same who gave him votes meant for Sen Clinton , not for him.

    mr obama is accurately described by as a newbie. the only thing you got right. and a very inexperienced fellow in a cheap empty suit. mr puppet head is an embarrassment to his party.

    ps. i am not a racist. that is a fact that i stand behind, and will not be manipulated from by cheap and uninformed bobots.

  • I CAN’T BELIEVE IT’S NOT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!

    I just can’t believe the old (but now) un-Democratic Party

    isn’t the Republican Party 2.

    “I can’t believe it’s not the Republican Party” in DENVER this WEEK!

    I just can’t believe the old (but now) un-Democratic Party

    isn’t the Republican Party 2.

    “I can’t believe it’s not the Republican Party” in DENVER this WEEK!

  • Roxanne

    Obama is not static in his thinking and neither should progressives. Not all progressives support mandatory healthcare ( i do not either) and Obama conveyed he would be open-minded on the issue of off-shore drilling.But he is absolutely pro-environment,antiwar and pro-education. To say that he is a republican for the reasons you expressed is ridiculous.

  • Skiron

    Really? It’s hard to tell, because he comes off as stupid and out of touch with reality as you do.

  • Roxanne

    Oh please with the underwhelming conspiracy theories.He won because he is the better candidate and Hillary ran a low rent and shoddy campaign. Her supporters did not have enough faith in her to donate necessary funds to her coffers while we “obots” made were contributing 40-50 million a month! People are Clinton fatigued. She lost. Get over it.

  • No Obamislamists

    Obama is not static in his thinking and neither should progressives

    i.e, Obama and progressives should have no core values or principals and just say whatever is politically expedient to whatever group we just happen to be talking to at any given time….got it!

  • sjc-tx

    PERFECT! The GOP is getting started! Open your eyes folks!!!

    NO obama!!!!

  • Roxanne

    And i never called you a racist or brought up race. So why did you feel you needed to add the postscript?

  • dottie

    Actually Roxanne, we WON! 18 million votes, baby. Obama stole the nomination, by taking money donations from terrorists, and brainwashing and bussing large numbers of easily manipulated college kids and blacks into Caucus states. Having the MSM as a henchman certainly didn’t help.

    yeah keeping saying it, it might actually come true. why don’t you support these conspiracy theories with FACTS? i know one thing that is a fact: Hillary lost 12 contests in a row, and got trounced in the south. (except for Texas), so this 18 million number you guys keep throwing is nothing more than a figment of your imagination. it’s so obvious you are just using Hillary as a crutch to support your own self-inflated feminist egos.

  • Skiron

    “barack was soundly beaten by Hillary, more than 200,000 votes actually;”

    This might be news to you, but the democratic nomination process wasn’t a popular vote contest. What’s more, those 200,000 votes don’t really factor in when the primary is done Soviet-style, with Hillary subverting the rules to be the only serious contender on the ballot.

  • No Obamislamists

    I was called a racist and kicked out of Dailykos for pointing out Obama’s connections in the Rezko trial, that was all available from the public records.

    But the last post I made that apparently put them over the edge and was banned was, I kid you not was..

    Title: Faux Presidential seal thrown under the bus

    “That’s not the faux presidential seal that I knew…”

  • beachnan

    We will not be voting for the empty suit Obama, so coming here and harrassing us is counterproductive. Hillary succinctly states what it means to be a Democrat, or should I say what it used to mean, until Dean, Pelosi and Brazile decided to push their candidate down our throats by fraudulent methods. She showed us last night again, why she should be the nominee, and why she should be the next President of the United States. She is a leader. Obama is not a leader. So, stop coming here. You are not going to change our minds. Many of us will be voting McCain, so that we can insure that the Democratic party does not perpetuate their fraudulent ways.

  • Roxanne

    What kind of dismal life do you have that would compel one to make such a statement? I feel sorry for so many of you on this site.

    You seem to be extremely unhappy and extremely unfulfilled individuals.

  • sjc-tx

    You see, no one can talk about ANYTHING the obassole is going to do, has done, or anything about him!!! THERE IS NOTHING THERE!!!!!!!!! So they will have to wait for his assiness to come out tommorrow and talk about himself (which we all know is his ONLY talent!)

    What a fu*king farce! What a waste of ENORMOUS amounts of money. Wow! I’d be angry if I was a troon donator!

  • Rev. Wright, can you fix my garlic nose?

    Sen. Robert Casey of Pennsylvania got things started with a thoroughgoing and dull speech in which he mostly talked about his father.

    Casey’s remarks were a little confusing to this Pennsylvanian. He said when he stumped across the state with the presumptuous nominee, Pennsylvanians from Pittsburgh to Paoli said he was “one of us”.
    So why did Hillary trounce him in PA?

    Bob Casey, junior senator from Parallel Universe PA.

    Insofar as the commentary about Hillary, she definitely stole the show and once again demonstrated that she is the stronger Dem candidate. And she doesn’t even need a Greek Temple.

  • YouGuysAreUnbelievable

    OUCH- Rule #1 at No Quarter- NEVER ask for a source…unless you’re a PUMA.

    Get with it, man.

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  • dottie

    We will not be voting for the empty suit Obama, so coming here and harrassing us is counterproductive. Hillary succinctly states what it means to be a Democrat, or should I say what it used to mean, until Dean, Pelosi and Brazile decided to push their candidate down our throats by fraudulent methods. She showed us last night again, why she should be the nominee, and why she should be the next President of the United States. She is a leader. Obama is not a leader. So, stop coming here. You are not going to change our minds. Many of us will be voting McCain, so that we can insure that the Democratic party does not perpetuate their fraudulent ways.

    lol yeah right there’s no convincing you loonies. i just come here for the laughs. most do.

  • http://mmb silverfox

    blue intrigue….

    because democrats are supposed to be “better” than republicans.

    misogyny in democrats is far more odious. they have a lot farther to fall from their high moral ground. so the candidates are pretty even steven on the misogyny question.

    i’m not swayed.

    nest question?

  • Linda

    Obviously Barry supporters are desparate and trying any and all tactics, because that’s all it is to them, a means for the end prize. Care not the destruction anda suffering they do to get there.

    You have to be racist or weak to have guilt games work on you with these Race Cards being played.

    They’ve already exhausted their resource.

  • s. hall

    kai — exactly–Obama used the Democratic Party. He doesn’t give a damn about the down ticket Democrats he just wants to run the country and being that he stands for nothing its easy for him to be anything.

  • http://mmb silverfox

    roxie

    the folks who supported Hillary are not from the arugala set/ whole foods network.

    they are losing homes and worrying about health care. and that is just the tip of weight they bear.

    obobo does not represent their best interest. Hillary does. unfortunately they did not have deep pockets or work on wall st.

    your classism is showing dearie.

  • barrybarrybad

    RE: Barack O’Kafka

    Let me get this straight: Hillary continues to be a good foot soldier for our party, which has screwed her, and the verdict is she “did just enough.” The jurors, of course, are Obama’s media sycophants.

    Then, the fringes pre-emptively announce Obama’s pending loss will be the result of “racism.” This serves two purposes, one of which is to shift blame and the other to marginalize those of us who supported Hillary.

    Barack might want to recall his namesake’s great short “The Overcoat.” The Inspector was haunted for years even though he maltreated his vicitm. Karma is a bitch.

  • http://mmb silverfox

    rox

    why did you think you needed to respond to the query?

  • s. hall

    strawberry its so easy for Obama to play the race card and keep the media from digging too deeply into his character. The part of Obama that scares me is not the AA part its the Muslim part. The guy was endorsed by Hamas. What is anyone thinking? We have a war going against Muslim extremists and yet we have one who wants the biggest job in this country. What is his agenda? God only knows. No thanks I will vote for the real American.

  • Roxanne

    Strawberry

    You have to forgive us for not being aquainted with the nuanced posters at this polished of political sites.

  • Peniel

    This Hillary delegate said it perfectly:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGhyIgwaVXA

  • dottie

    his “Victim”… no seriously keep going.

  • Skiron

    Regarding the “good foot soldier” assertion: you may want to argue with your fellow commenters upthread who are gloating over the fact that Hillary only said Obama’s name 10 times in her speech, and didn’t do it enthusiastically. She can’t be both a good foot soldier and only half-heartedly support him in her speeches and actions.

  • I CAN’T BELIEVE IT’S NOT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!

    I just can’t believe

    it’s not the Republican Party in Denver this Week!

    LOL

  • JML

    Counterproductive indeed. This is such an excellent point.

    Both the Obama and McCain camps need and want the votes of Senator Clinton’s supporters.

    The Obama camp is still using the same tactics to win us over that have not worked in the three months since the Primaries have been over: hostility, abuse, intimidation, name-calling and race-baiting, threats, disrespect, mockery and other assorted put-downs, often invoking feminism as a dirty word. We see it here every day.

    This is not a winning strategy, and it’s why, despite Senator’s Clinton brilliant efforts to save the Democratic party, the ideals of which she so passionately is committed to, a large number of her supporters continue to resist Senator Obama and his fraudulent hijacking of the party.

    Obama supporters do not understand the kinetic difference between push and pull. With incredible force, they continue to push us away.

    What is the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results? If that’s true, than the Obama trolls are indeed insane.

  • http://mmb silverfox

    skiron….

    you bobo-ism is showing darling. the kool-aid has rot some of your gray matter.

    so sorry.

    as for Soviet Style ballot stuff….what about your candidate knocking off the ballot those who ran against him in chi town. just as Alice Waters, an Afro American mentor of his that he threw off the ballot so he could steal the election by running against…NO ONE. chicago politics, baybee. that’s where barack comes from and that’s what he’s about.

    bobo is just another typical play for pay chicago pol, owned and operated by some pretty unsavory folks.

    get your head out of your ass Rox, bad for the breath.

    bye for now…i’m off to real life.

  • Peniel

    You’re right Rox … he’s not static in his thinking

    He has STATIC IN his thinking!

    He’s fuzzy about almost everything… probably that durn static!

    No Way, No How, NObama!

  • http://mmb silverfox

    oops….so sorry Rox

    that last note was meant for Skiron.

    too many trolls here today.

    hard to tell them apart.

  • dottie

    This is not a winning strategy, and it’s why, despite Senator’s Clinton brilliant efforts to save the Democratic party, the ideals of which she so passionately is committed to, a large number of her supporters continue to resist Senator Obama and his fraudulent hijacking of the party.

    is that why a bunch of Hillary delegates turned today? maybe everyone’s not a crazy like yourself.

  • s. hall

    harvey — Obama will say that we are all racists and that its Hillary’s fault he lost because she was sending subliminal messages to her supporters. Expect it.

    Someone asked Carville why Hillary can’t get her supporters to vote for Obama. He said — look these people are not sub prime mortgages that you can bundle and sell in bulk.

    If Obama loses it will not be because of PUMA it will be because of his own arrogance. Instead of making speeches in which he appears in front of huge crowds sounding like the Second Coming with a teleprompter, he should have been out among the people and shown more grace and humility. This is not a job for God its a job for a politician who has accomplished much and is trusted by the people.

    The American people distain arrogance. One of the reasons McCain is doing far better than expected because he reminds us of ourselves. He appears to be a man like many of us warts and all. But better, because he has been tested under fire and he passed with flying colors.

  • Raven

    Hillary was fantastic!
    She delivered the speech that she needed to.
    Did what was asked of her. The hall erupted with an
    impassioned response by the “all” of the delegates
    upon hearing Hillary’s call to UNITY.
    To see her and Chelsea together again was wonderful.
    She made a strong case for why we need a Democrat
    in the White House and should support the Obama-
    Biden ticket. Once again, she showed her grit and
    that she is a woman of tremendous grace, strength and dignity.

    HILLARY 2012

  • uhh uhh somehow this notion that I am qualified to president is uhh uhh ridiculous

    Rev Wright’s, Ayers’, and Rezko’s of course.

  • s. hall

    blue — You love your guy because he is soooo kewl. Well Obama loves those rappers. Obama loves their hate talk. In fact Obama loves to hate. Take one look at the people he is most comfortable with and you will find one thing in common they all hate this country and its people. Obama only serves himself–its getting obvious to all but the braindead.

  • uhh uhh somehow this notion that I am qualified to president is uhh uhh ridiculous

    You seem to be easily manipulated while lacking morals and self esteem.

    Just an opinion..we are playing armchair psycho analyst of people we don’t know, aren’t we?

  • uhh uhh somehow this notion that I am qualified to president is uhh uhh ridiculous

    Hey, yes. Now where is your source that erases all the documentation of Obama’s relationship with Ayers? And can you locate a source that absolves him from lying about it?

  • s. hall

    bud white — actually its 48% of Hillary supporters won’t back Obama. McCain is getting 24% of them and the others say they have not yet made up their minds or will vote for others. However, all say they will not vote for Obama.

  • eurogirl70

    Roxanne:

    He is not a Democrat and neither are you. The very reason for why we still have a smattering of what passes for a “middle class” in this country is because of the core Demcratic principles laid out over 60 years ago under FDR. There is not one truly healthy democracy in the world that does not have the majority of its’ citizens firmly planted in the middle class. What you are developing here in this country dear Roxanne is the largest descrepency between the wealthiest and the poorest that has been on record since the Gilded Age.

    The United States is the only country in the industrialized world that does not have universal healthcare. Have you seen that many American’s now have teeth like the British did 50 years ago? Most healthcare plans do not include dental. Just this last year the Scandinavians surpassed the United States as being the tallest people in the world. Since the 19th century, we have been the tallest on record. Now, due to poor nutrition and lack of preventative medicine we have been surpassed. Try picking up JAMA once in awhile.

    As for the other issues I addressed you have not provided one glimmer as to why it should be ok to not support gay/lesbian rights. Why someone who claims to be a Democrat would vote for a bill that gives additional profits to an industry already raking in windfall profits (oil) the likes of which have never been seen by any industry EVER. (Bush/Cheney)energy bill

    (Cue Crickets!)

    You are a one-note thinker. You are no different than those little 20 year olds working at the Justice Dept, totally over their heads, and called before Congress to give sworn testimony. Most of them were there not because of what they know but rather because of who they know. When any of them were asked why they had remained silent as to the breaking of laws, their responses were because of loyalty to the President and the oaths they had sworn to.

    Up until this election cycle I heard one so-called progressive after another rail against such infantile narrow thinking. Now, that same mindset is alive and well and speaking from Obama supporters such as yourself.

    Either people stand for things or they don’t. This is not about a lack of adaptabilty. This is about making the hard and right choices when at the end of the day you may not get a gold star next to your name, or a pony, or a photo-op. In fact, the only satisfaction you may get is private and personal.

    But you would know nothing about that Roxanne, because just like your namesake in Cyrano De Bergerac, Roxanne was taken by the beauty of the man and assumed that the beautiful words he spoke were his own. Instead, they were someone else’s, and the truth did not come to light until it was too late.

    You have the depth of a child’s kiddy pool!!

  • s. hall

    slap great comment

  • s. hall

    mike — McCain is the candidate of the people who are looking for a competent person to be president. Obama thinks he is running for God. When we have an election for diety — he might be considered. However, he would lose that one too.

  • roger_fromNJ

    Jacob Weisberg’s analysis is extremely bereft of logic. Yes, there are people with racist attitudes, but those folks almost never vote for more progressive candidates, or Dems.

    The Democrats Weisberg alludes to have worked for civil rights for a long time. Whatever racist holdouts there were in the Democratic party left them back in the 1960′s.

    To these types like Weisberg, there is no legitimate reason for opposing Obama. He is so perfect and wonderful, that he should win with Politburo type numbers: “99.4% for Obama, 0.6% for McCain”.

  • uhh uhh somehow this notion that I am qualified to president is uhh uhh ridiculous

    Another great one, Paul. Thank you.
    My favorite aspect, if you will, of Obama’s waffling Iran statemnets was his comparison to Russia.He supported his lack of taking Iran seriously by implying Iran is not near the level of threat to America as say Russia.
    I have to wonder, in light of recent events, if he believes Russia is as great a threat as..Russia.

    Will he now advise Poland and the US to play nicely with Russia, too?
    What an incompetent jerk.

  • Obama’s gums look sick

    If Obama wins, racism will be the reason. Some impressions just back from a day in Denver where I joined hundreds of Hillary supporters for a march in her support and a march for our own protests about the highjacking of the nomination process by the Obama thugs.

    Denver was Obamatown and I felt intimidated to be a Hillary supported due to the overwhelming black presence and the slew of black street hawkers selling every possible bit of Obama crap on the streets. This city did not look like America – mainly black faces, and in your face blacks all over the place. NO hispanics or asians. And the rest looked like smug white union hacks waiting for the arrival of the next tax-payer funded gravy train to deposit riches only on their doorsteps.

    The Hillary march was confined to totallly invisible hinterlands observed by no one but a few camera people and news media who were looking for some manufactured controversy. But the DNC effectively sanitized the entire operation and only Obama people were allowed to get in everyone’s faces. How so many street sellers were allowed to push Obama while Hillary people were confied to Lower Slobovia is a tale yet to be told.

    The over-all impression is the DNC is an isolation echo chamber that is self-satisfied with recreating their own history of events and their candidate. Yet they are totally out of touch with the rest of the electorate.

    While I felt intimidated showing any Clinton support on the streets when I first got there, I proudly wore my Hillary button through the crowds after the rally and saw not a single other Clinton supporter wearing any public badge yet I refused to not show my own support, regardless of the staredowns and threats of being called a racist by the Obamaniacs.

    The most telling moments came leaving this DNC cocoon at the airport when the female TSA guard told me she supported Hillary when she saw my button. And the young man in the airport tram gave me the thumbs up when he saw my button.

    And the two Obama supporters next to me in line to board the plane cheering each other about Hillary delivering her support for Obama in her speech, yet once they saw my button shut up and dropped their voices low and conspiratorial looking afraid at just my presence and did not dare to ask me, a real Clinton supporter, if I was now supporting Obama since I was directed to do so ….. afraid and certain my answer would and shall always be a resounding NOBAMA.

    The DNC is a farce. The Obama demographics are narrow and self-insulating. The man is heading for a lop-sided and embarrassing defeat because he is not resonating beyond his carefully orchestrated echo chamber.

    And none of this ….. is Hillary’s fault. It is time for their boy to get over himself and realize he has to earn this campaign and not demand it be handed over to him by those he has worked so hard to alienate.

  • Kim

    Why does everyone keep talking about how “attractive” Obama is? Are they kidding? His ears are HUGE and should have been pinned back when he was a child. He is very skinny. Frankly, I don’t know what everyone is seeing that I don’t.

  • s. hall

    bmc — I say this as a lifelong Democrat who has watched as my party has lost election after election. When they put themselves in the hands of a northern liberal they lose. Period

    I hope Obama loses in a landslide and that the latte liberals who control this party of losers will be out and Hillary’s people will be put in charge of the party. I thought we might get a Roosevelt Democrat like Hillary to fix this mess but I find we have an arrogant incompetent who is in love with himself. Who knows where he stands?

    Its all about making himself look important. If you are important you don’t have to try so hard to look like you are. But he is so insecure that he doesn’t know that. God forbid he should leave his teleprompter home — his carefully crafted speech might contain some real dialog. Has it only been 19 months that Obama has been running it seems like 19 years. No wonder 48% of Americans are sick of looking at him.

  • http://! Buzz Latte

    The more you post the more we will resist, Roxanne. Why don’t do something more productive like read up on your messiah with an open mind.

    All you know is the crap you’ve been told.

  • Deelee

    If Obama had been white, he wouldn’t even be in the race. He would have been laughed out of the DNC for his arogance and stupidity. My friends and I laugh at him and about him on a daily basis, and if it wasn’t such a serious matter (the Presidency)we’d be laughing even louder. He’s nothing but a joke!

    Based on HIS past known work history and qualifications, we filled out a job application for him in our corporation, and sad to say, he could only get in as a janitor, and even then he would have to undergo intensive training.

  • s. hall

    shiloh — a scared insecure little boy who would rather give up 18 Million Hillary voters then put her on the ticket to unify the party in case she might upstage him. That one little act could be the final curtain for Obama’s campaign.

  • http://! Buzz Latte

    Numbers have that going up to 50% of Hillary voters not backing Obama. Obama has already lost.

    All of this is just dog and pony show.

  • YouGuysAreUnbelievable

    I’ll be sure to shed a tear for you tonight.
    Waahhhhhhhhh! Wahhhhhhhhh!


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  • nowaynohownobama

    Obama is a narcissistic, arrogant, elitist who surrounds himself with criminals, terrorists, and racists. He will soon be vetted by the 527′s as he should have been months ago.

    The media and DNC are to blame for this farce of an election. We waited 8 yrs. for a Democrat in the White House and we end up with this DNC SELECTED moron.
    If the DNC had the sense to dig into Obama’s corrupt past before SELECTING “The One,” it would have been a good year for the Democratic Party.

    Rezko, Ayers, Odinga, Frank Marshall Davis, Wright, Farrakhan, Khalidi, Pfleger, Auchi, Alsammarae all contribute to Obama’s poor choice of association and eventual loss in Nov.

  • eurogirl70

    that’s interesting considering that when Obama brought Al Gore out to endorse him in Michigan he just had to bring up that Al Gore had garnered the popular vote in 2000.

    The popular vote was the mantra of the Democratic Party prior to this primary season. Early in this primary season, all Nancy Pelosi could talk about was the popular vote. Then, when it became clear that Obama would not garner the popular vote but rather the delegate vote, she changed her tune.

    I think that is called “moving the goal posts” and people like Donna Brazile frown on the breaking of “the rules”. That is until the rules don’t work for them!

  • Obama’s gums look sick

    Obama’s gums look sick. They are always puffy and glossy in his photos – all signs of a very heavy smoker.

  • s. hall

    Obama — a play in 3 acts

    Act 1 — Enter a nice looking well spoken tri-racial man who claimed to be above race and politics and that he could bring the country togeter with his hopeful and positive agenda.

    Act 2 — Obama decides that being nice might not get him the nomination so he cheats in every caucus and plays the race card because winning is more important than anything else.

    Act 3 — Enter John McCain who doesn’t stand for being called a racist by Obama. Ads are unleased which make a mockery of his entire persona. Suddenly Obama is insecure and angry. He claims McCain doesn’t know who he’s dealing with. Threats and anger abound and the American people see the real Obama and vote in mass numbers for the Republican who everyone thought had no chance of winning. Because they know McCain as a man who is comfortable in his own skin. President McCain —- THE END

  • nickoury

    Why does stinky continue going down in the polls?

  • http://undercoverblackman.blogspot.com Undercover Black Man

    Her supporters did not have enough faith in her to donate necessary funds to her coffers while we “obots” made were contributing 40-50 million a month!

    You rock, Rox! This point is it in a nutshell. What did Reid and Pelosi or Donna Brazile or the MSM or the Chicago machine have to do Clinton’s inability to raise money and stay competitive?

    Her campaign was mismanaged and now she’s looking to get bailed out of her debt. (Would the U.S. have been in the same fix after a Hillary Clinton administration?)

    Face it, my friends: Most of America is simply ready to Move On.

  • Obama’s gums look sick

    Blacks are only 13% percent of the population. Denver looked all black. Run the numbers. Denver did not look like America. Most telling was the total absence of Hispanic faces. The overall effect was intimidating – Obamaland. Now call me racist, and get over it.

    13% of voters in any state are not going to win this one for Obama. His demographics stuck and have not budged since he started losing primary election after primary election to Clinton.

    His was the failed campaign. He got stuck and has not been able to move his “momentum” one bit. Polls are confirming his slide. His was the failed and flawed campaign. Which now only leaves money as the reason the DNC sold out so early. And the last laugh is on them because Obama is demanding all the campaign money goes through his hands and not the DNC.

    Obama provides no coat-tails for any other Dem candidate. He is not a party person. He is not a party stalwart. He is only a brand being sold …. and now sitting stale on the shelves.

  • nickoury

    As of Thrusday it will be over and McCain will be the next President. Period.

  • norrismorris

    It’s time to get over Hillary or Obama will lose.

    A big greek style temple event on Thursday will only reinforce his celebrity/elitist personna. This is a mistake and if you want Obama to win, Hillary has nothing to do with his ability to close the deal.

    Rock star adulation will separate him even further from the out of work machinist and single mom with 2 jobs. He can’t connect with straight talk and specifics. All this adulation is not American. Obama Camp has miscalculated in not having him as a part of the Convention.

    The kind of adoration this event will produce will hurt Obama in the polls.

    You worry about Clinton? Your worries should be addressed to Obama.

  • Amalia

    Weisberg is from Chicago.

    his mother Lois Weisberg is the Commissioner of Cultural Affairs
    at Mayor Daley’s City Hall. she is VERY close to the Mayor’s wife.

    she has LONG been active in left wing politics in Chicago.

    axelrod controls them all, Jonathan Alter too, ditto on the liberal
    mother from Chicago thing.

  • YouGuysAreUnbelievable

    “Blacks are only 13% percent of the population.”

    HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO ANOTHER CITY IN THIS COUNTRY BEFORE?!?

    My lord…we’ve got a live one!!


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  • JML

    I’m keeping track of the insults. Each one drives me closer to McCain. The GOP thanks you.

    *golf clap*

  • norrismorris

    I would sugges you get over it if you want Obama to win.

    He has huge problems which your Obamadoration blinds you to the reality of his obvious flaws and if uncorrected quickly,…..Obama will lose this election which is his to win.

    Mean spirited Hillary Hate impedes Obama. This negative energy will backfire as it always does, and Obama has huge difficulties in connecting with working class voters who find him elitist and aloof.

    Hid Hate Hillary troops will sink Obama.

  • http://undercoverblackman.blogspot.com Undercover Black Man

    Roxanne, you rock.

    To visit this site is to peer into the Heart of Darkness. It does, indeed, provoke a pity response.

  • rw

    Keep thinking that money gives you power at the ballot box.

    Swimming in legal and illegal donations was not enough to put Obama in the lead in popular vote nor in delegates: The democratic shenanigans at the caucuses, the shenanigans with Michigan and Florida, the shenanigans of taking delegates democratically won by Clinton and giving them to Obama, and the shenanigans of an impartial MSM.

    Obama,the Democratic candidate with 500,00 (half a million) less popular votes than his rival. Now I would say all that money was pretty ill spent by Obama and his boys.

  • s. hall

    dottie — if you come here for laughs — why don’t you laugh? Its really funny you know, first time in memory such an enormous amount of Democrats will not vote for the nominee because they can’t stand him. Oh there were the Reagan Democrats who left the party to vote for Reagan because he offered a more positive view of this country but they didn’t hate Carter. Perhaps its the arrogance of a young man pretending to have all the knowledge in the world and speaking with a phoney deep voice. He’s like a kid playing dress up. IT REALLY IS FUNNY YOU KNOW. You have 2 more months to laugh before John McCain becomes President.

  • norrismorris

    Obama is a Political Chameleon. He has not convinced the big States, and his ego driven campaign has hurt him. He is not a Democrat as cleary outlined by Hillary Clinton last night.

  • Amalia

    you are correct about cities, but this is about the country as a whole. you vision is skewed by the media in large cities.

    13% is the AfAm pop of this country. the % of delegates at the
    convention is 24% af am. more are active in the dem party.

    but latinos represent 15% of this country. and they are not
    getting their percentage at this convention.

    if the Republicans are smart they will exploit that difference.

  • Rob in Chicago

    Clinton fatigued? What part of the peace and prosperity are they tired of? Most of us here at NQ were quite aware of what transpired during this election cycle, and we have seen (and we believe the evidence and allegations) the basis for the contention that the primary was rigged and gamed. You, obviously do not agree or accept the evidence that we have seen. That is your perogative. I don’t come into your house and dump on the floor and criticize your family, so why do you seem to think that your behavior here is acceptable and would reflect positively on your up-bringing?

  • Rob in Chicago

    He sure did corner the market on contributions from Gaza.

  • ted

    just read and artical in my local paper about ohios new voting law. seems the obama camp is rigging the GE in ohio also. hope he gets arrested and deported before nov 4

  • ted

    oops article

  • Rob in Chicago

    The appearance with Daddy Yankee was in connection with McCain’s support for comprehensive immigration reform, bucking the hardliners in his own party who support stronger enforcement, division of families, destruction of local economies, and generally more gestapo tactics from Julie Myers and her crew at ICE. He was appearing with Daddy Yankee to demonstrate a common ground with Hispanic voters, not in an endorsement of any vile rap lyrics. Nevertheless, I tend to agree that it would have been better if he had found a more “acceptable” Hispanic supporter without the miscogynistic lyrical baggage.

  • Obama’s gums look sick

    Clinton cares more about the Dem Party she has given her life to than this thug Obama who broke every code of decency to hijack it.

    Clinton is at her worst when she is required to “stand by her man”, against her true own best interests. But this double standard is the standard the Dem Party still flies.

    Clinton required speech made our stomachs turn. We can never support women having to cover over for their men’s own flaws. She did this for Bill and now she was asked to whore herself for Obama as well, with no family benefits to gain on this one.

    If she really cared she would have told Obama this baby is all his now and he has to go out and earn rather than blame her …..because ….that dog don’t hunt anymore.

    Git it, Obambi?

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    Adam and Eve story being told in modern dress. Blame the woman and punish her eternally with a life of pain for the choices a man makes. Ain’t the Judeo-Christian tradition a [EDITED BY ADMINISTRATOR]?

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  • Obama’s gums look sick

    There are 2000 Clinton supporters in Denver. There are 18 million Clinton voters who live outside this self-satisfied DNC echo chamber ruled by Obama thugs.

    You need to do a better job running your numbers or you are going to wake up very surprised next November.

    Obamaland is getting smaller and smaller and more isolated, devious and duplicitous. Guard against your very fans because you are living in a dream world that has lost touch with reality.

  • Rob in Chicago

    UCBM:

    That’s pity spelled E-L-I-T-I-S-T.

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  • ming_the_merciless

    You seem to forget that the republicans appear to have stolen Ohio in 2004, and with it the election. The details of the theft would be too astonishing to believe, had they not later not been compiled and documented. Most Americans have never learned what actually happened.

    http://www.harpers.org/archive/2005/08/0080696

    They’re up to the same damn thing again. They’re using the “caging” process again, in an effort to disqualify 600,000 Ohio voters–mostly young voters and people of color.

    http://www.alternet.org/democracy/94977/

    It’s not democratic cheating that I’m worried about. It’s the possibility of seeing an unelected republican sworn in for a third time in a row.

  • Liz B

    What I still trip over is that anybody could accuse Bill Clinton of racism. Based on what? His support of his WIFE over Obama? That was probably the defining moment in the Primary season when I said to myself “Ahhh, I see what they’re doing…” Karl Rove was so proud of Donna Brazille and Jim Clyburn…he taught them well.

  • Obama’s gums look sick

    Two key things:

    1. Obama is hard core Chicago politics and is no “newbie”; he used hardball tactics to stormtroop meaningless caucuses; scream racsim and divide the Dems against themselves. This was no novice in action but a cold, calculating political operative. His first post cornation visti was to SEIU President Stern. Obama knows what side his bread is buttered on.

    2. Clinton did make a strategic error turning down the internet communities offer to turn the internet into a fund-raising machine. Only after this rejection by the Clinton team who was originally favored by the internet crowd, did they offer it to Obama because they felt they could live with the “concept” of Obama even though they knew nothing about him as a person on candidate.

    They had an operation to sell and he was smart enough to see it had potential. That was the only grave error Clinton made and it would be interesting to see who was in on that decision.

  • Obama’s gums look sick

    Obama’s supporters are his worst enemies. I was also open to him until I watched his supporters in action and then I vowed I would do everything I could to make sure this man never gets elected ….. to anything. He brings out the worst, not the best in people.

  • Obama’s gums look sick

    Adam and Eve in modern dress: Blame the woman and give her life eternal pain for bad decisions the man makes.

  • Hope

    The coconut dum-dums are my favorite.

    We already know you like Barry.

  • Susan1968

    You know — this racist meme is a joke.

    How can you strive for a post-racial bias America and then claim that any criticism of an AA is due to racism.

    Let’s look at the facts:

    Obama has a THIN RESUME. He’s basing his qualifications for POTUS on his year as a community organizer? On his six months as a US Senator? On his lack of experience with foreign leaders?

    Obama has switched positions so many times even his ardent left wing supporters are criticizing him now. Does that make them racist too?

    Jesse Jackson Sr. is right — Obama is talking down to Black people. Does that make Jesse a racist too?

    Obama calls folks like me and his grandmother “A TYPICAL WHITE PERSON.”

    Let’s look at that phrase: A TYPICAL WHITE PERSON.

    What would you think of me if I called a Latino: A TYPICAL HISPANIC. Or if I called my AA neighbor: A TYPICAL BLACK PERSON.

    When Obama calls me: A TYPICAL WHITE PERSON he’s letting me know he believes in negative stereotypes about all white people. Which is the epitome of prejudice against white people.

    You know, sometimes you dislike someone or reject someone because you think they’re a$$-holes. And it has nothing to do with the color of his or her skin.

    That’s what equality is all about. We are equals and I’m allowed to think you’re a jerk simply because your judgment sucks.

    Let me tell you — if Colin Powell ran for POTUS you’d see how easily Americans ARE TOTALLY ABLE TO judge someone by the content of their character.

    Colin Powell would win by a landslide.

    When it comes to character, Obama is a big fat zero.

    His flipflops prove it. “I know I said I’d filibuster FISA but I changed my mind for political reasons”

    His benign neglect of AA voters proves it.
    “Give me your vote as I continue to ignore your community’s issues.”

    His inability to close the deal with voters in his own party. “But-but-but — it’s about party unity! Forget the issues.”

    Many of us ARE judging him on his character and we say: NO thanks.

    Sign me: TYPICAL WHITE PERSON

  • http://www.hillarygreenmountain.org CarlaforHillary

    Thanks Bud, for a great analysis of Jacob Weisberg’s article. I read it a few days ago and had the same initial thoughts as you did. How can Obama lose due to racism when only five percent of those polled said they didn’t vote for Obama because he was black? Duh!

    Obama will lose because of Obama.

  • Obumber

    So I prefer the mole before stupids obots!

  • vi

    Well we all know that leading up to his speech in the big arena, he will be be raised in the air to the godly like Greek temples where he will deliver his breath taking speech of unity and the praise of the Os filling the stadium…lol? I can see the republicans ad for that one, with them stating with the godly praise and the repeat of Os first few commandments, sexism, race,Acorn , Thuggs rule, caucuses, no experience needed, deciet, terrorism, Ayers, Wright, Farahkhan, He will let the tears fllow as he passes around the candy, eat my children, and rise up with me to rule the world. lol
    One voice , one vote, Nobama, Do not be a silent vote, a stay home vote, a third party vote, a vote for Obama, voice your discontent with the Dnc with its unexperienced , radical terrorist friends. Nobama I own my vote and those superdelegates, who do as the Dnc ask to vote Obama have no spin to stand up for the true candidate with experience.. Vote. Bill Burtons statement that he is not worried about polls of woman over the age of 40, stated just now on Fox News, well now is the time to unite and elect the most experienced one who has conviction and a record. Puma gather and speak loudly McCain

  • Diana L. C .

    Roxanne, my little brainless sweetie!

    The latte sipping PH d crowd are, too a large extent, the people backing O Baby. They are the ones with their postmodern theories that “history is all lies” and all you have to do is “deconstruct” everything. Most don’t believe there really is anything such as reality except in their own minds. So please, you’ve just described the O Baby crowd. And I agree, as I said, they can’t accept reality.

  • Annie Oakley

    And prior to this election the Republicans out-raised and outspent the Dems, and we cried foul. They were buying elections, we said. Now, Obama claims that having billionaires, foreigners and bankers up the creek needing bailouts shoveling money his way is democracy. Under the bus goes publicly funded elections that would restore some control of the citizens to the process. Another democratic principle flip flop.

  • http://noratings.blogspot.com/ Bud White

    That’s facinating. Do you have a link?

  • hootnannie

    A white man with Obama’s baggage would also lose.

  • John

    Obama fatigue: at this point, I don’t care if he loses because he is black, or because he is thin, or because he waffles, or because he is arrogant, or because his supporters are arrogant (and annoying), or because the moon is in the 7th house & Jupiter aligns with Mars. Just as long as he loses, goes back to Chicago, and mopes about it. The fact is every time I almost convince myself to vote for Obama simply because he is going to be the Democratic nominee, and that’s how I usually vote, every single time, either he or his supporters do or say another thing that is just infuriating. The entire Obama Team just seem to be experts at pissing people off. And I am talking about the people who are pre-disposed to WANT to vote for the Dem.

  • jerseygirl

    She did not lose! The DNC rigged the primaries and forced her out!

  • Obama’s gums look sick

    Will blacks burn their cities down again if they don’t get their way? The only remaining question.

  • Obama’s gums look sick

    Where is the Repub ad showing King Obama with his own fake Presidential seal, his own Grecian Arbor of Adoration, his own Hyde Park mansionthe the entrance gates to his girls’ private schools, his body wrapped in an upside down US flag, …… his face on a dollar bill like ones being sold in Denver.

    Who is going to expose this fake Saint Obama when all these pictures are worth 1000′s of his mere words?

    Obama is now hoisting himself on his own petard. Thank goodness. Hubris is the revenge of the gods for trying to fly too close to the sun.

    I actually got an Obama mailer today (my name was hijacked off a Clinton donation list against my will) that told me I was the one I was waiting for. Imagine that, me !?!.

    Imagine this, Obama, raise your own g.d. money from someone who cares.

  • Lisa

    I’m very distraught about the nomination today. I feel that 18 million voters lost their vote. What was the sense of voting, when Obama was nominated by acclamation. There was no roll call vote, the roll call vote has always been the Democratic process. Is anybody else incensed? Was the Obama camp so afraid to have a roll call vote that they intimidated the delegates. This is like a third world country. We have no more voters freedom.

    Lisa

  • http://lesstalkmoreactivism.blogspot.com/ whoframedrudy

    “one in six white voters told exit pollsters race was a factor in his or her decision.”

    ‘Race was a factor in my decision’ could mean ‘Obama playing the race card turned me off.’ Or ‘Jeremiah Wright turned me off.’ Or ‘Obama claiming to be post-racial, then flip-flopping and giving a big race speech to say everything is about race turned me off.’

    The poll question was framed as ‘race’, not ‘Obama’s race.’

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