If You Expect Hillary to Do it Then Nominate Her, Damn It!!

What’s the matter with the Democratic leadership? Although not a Democrat myself, I believe Larry Johnson has answered his own question here…

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SPOT ON!!!!

Those of us who remember history know that the Kennedys were attacked many years ago just like the Clintons.

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It’s complete crap, I agree.

Larry,

That is how weak this candidate is, he cannot even make a case for himself; he has been and always will be a lost child being led around, with a script, making grandiose promises, that are impossible to keep.
There is only so much money in our government, there is no way all those promises will be fulfilled. Because his own center does not hold he reaches out to drag others with him, that is my perspective. All I have heard is she needs to quit, she needs to do this or that or Obama won’t have what he needs. He is running isn’t he, than why on earth has he never been able to stand on his own two feet? JC could be his VP and I don’t think it would help, and you know what he would blame him too. If one cannot take responsibility for themselves, how earth can they run our country? They can’t.

Yep I agree 100% if she has to rally every one to the cause of the great one then they should of least given her the common courtesy of appreciating what she could do for the party and nominated her as VP.

Give her the first option to refuse or not but to not even have her on a short list, the select Biden over her is insulting and now she must carry his ass over the finish line, no way, no how, let him go get his own votes, let Biden and him work for every vote that they want.

I think they should start calling themselves the Dumbocrat Party. As a Democrat, I find that I don’t have much in common with them.

I agree with you completely Larry obama created this division and they want Hillary to clean up after him and make it all better, IT ISN’T HER JOB! The threats that have been coming out against her by the likes of Bob Shrum if she doesn’t is so infuriating.

Larry, sorry to nitpick, but Bonnie Erbe didn’t write the above excerpt– she was quoting someone, apparently at Rasmussen Reports (she links to them, though I can’t find the quotation she cited on their website).

Oh, and wait to see how Rezko’s sentencing (now scheduled for a week before the election) affects last minute thinking. http://blogs.suntimes.com/rezko/2008/08/rezkos_sentencing_delayed.html

I’m wondering whether the Rezko lawyers are in fact working on a sentencing deal with the prosecutors that would include info on BO.

Let’s just call it: Hillary’s Mile Hi-Dee-Ho Adventure

Hi-dee-ho here we go a Democratic Party convention all fluff and no substance, a rolling stone of ideas gathering no moss but bloated with self-aggrandizement.

To read more:
http:ww.thecjpoliticalreport.com/hillarys_mile_hi_dee_ho_adventure.htm

dean, pelosi and the dnc are primarily responsible for this debacle. Until they resign, I am not a Democrat.

I can’t watch it frankly.

It’s outrageous.

Yes, Michelle Obama put in a complimentary line or two about Sen. Clinton,

All Michelle had to do is go overboard flattering Hillary, and women in general, and she could have won over many. Hillary would have been cornered into saying the same about Barack tonight.

But the Obamabots are an arrogant, self-entitled, elitist lot and could not deign to make a good, political, gracious (even if insincere) move like this.

I’m watching Chris Mathews and Keith Olbermann. Maybe it’s my eyes going but hey look like two talking buttocks, positioned sideways.

I’m watching Chris Mathews and Keith Olbermann. Maybe it’s my eyes going but they look like two talking buttocks, positioned sideways.

If you don’t get it, if you are so livid over the fake bullshit being pulled on the Democratic party, and the american people, will you still be playing into their hands and doing the fence ride going forward by showcasing the problems with McCain as well as obama basicly defanging this site? Or will you continue to push the edge and be in your face and take your conviction to push to ensure this fruad and hypocrisy is not played out successfully on the country by your unwillingness to take a position.

After this convention its no longer a choice between Clinton and Obama. Its between Obama and McCain.

After all you know Larry after all the anger and all the reporting, are you really not going to take a stand?

If your going to call on them to DO IT, then i hope you DO IT too.

If you believe this strongly that this fraud is not qualified and is frankly a dangerous choice for the country, then dammit keep fighting the good fight.

Do not turn into Taylor Marsh 2.

“Michelle as Harriet Nelson”

LMAO!!!

That’s gold, Larry! GOLD!!!

This is great and how we all feel. Send it to all the superdelegates and every media outlet you can think of!!!!! We are mad and we are not going to take it anymore.

Obama’s October Ohs!

Rezko squeals

Rev. Wright’s book reveals Obama’s insincerity

Ayers sets the record straight

Scarlett Johanssen pulls out the e-mails

Grandma delivers the birth certificate and old Indonesian passport

A lot of people have been mistreated by Barack. They will be revenged!

Anyone who endorses Obama is a traitor to the Democratic party – this includes Hillary Clinton. How can she do this to us?!?!?!

Jeremiah, right on!!!

It’s time for Larry J to put his money where his mouth his, or else his site will go the way of Taylor Marsh’s (fewer than 100 posts per thread and falling).

It’s time for us to unequivicaly endorse John McCain and permanently renounce the Democratic Party! This party no longer represents hard working Americans. From now on we can be Sam’s CLub Republicans!

I’ll write it again. Being opposed to Obama does not mean McCain is the man. I am equally concerned by uber neo cons who have embedded themselves with McCain. Schneuman in particular. I’ll put the truth out on both and leave each person to make their own choice. I frankly am not happy about having to choose between Barack or McCain. But this much I know, I can not support Barack.

I’m with you jimbo. How did the cockroach from Illinois become the Democrats choice? Through corruption, lies, distortion, vote stealing, intimidation and a plethora of bullshit.

Obama must lose so that we can purge the party of these heinous fiends.

As to Ted Kennedy: give me a friggin break. Fraud, charlatan, bastard, just like the candidate he endorsed.

Come on Ted, Mary Jo Kopechne?

Thanks. Nit picks always welcome.
LJ

Amen to that!!

As a registered Republican (albeit a moderate one), I honestly think that this whole affair just may end up being exactly what the Democrat party needs: an electoral enema to flush out the hard leftists who have taken it over.

Let’s face it, folks. You guy should be comfortably ahead right now in the race for the White House. Although America is still bascially a center/right country, there is widespread dissatisfaction with how a Republican president has done his job for the past eight years. Plus, the economy is shaky and people are nervous. That usually is the death knell for the incumbent party. A year ago at this time, I had resigned myself to the fact that we were going to have a Democrat as the next president, especially when it looked like McCain’s campaign was about to become kaput, since I believed that he was the only Republican who would stand a chance in this kind of environment.

But the Republicans have proven to be a lot smarter than the Democrats this go-round. The GOP primary voters realized that McCain offered them their only realistic chance for holding on to the White House, so they bucked the far right wingers and their high priests on “talk radio” and moved to the center. The Democrats, on the other hand, allowed themselves to fall in love, caving in to the extreme left wingers like Brazille, Dean and Pelosi who have hijacked their party just like they did in the halcyon days of George McGovern. The result is a deeply flawed candiate.

The best thing that can happen for the Democratic Party right now is to have McCain beat Obama handily in two months. Then you’ll have the excuse you need to flush Pelosi, Reed, Dean, Soros, Michael Moore, the nutroots, et al and move your party back towards the center. Hillary can come “riding to the rescue” to clean up the mess and she’ll have a good shot at the White House in 2012. McCain may very well only serve one term, IMHO.

So, vote for McCain on Election Day. It’s for the long-term good of your party.

I was listening to that nasty women Maddow and those idiots this evening. They were all talking about HIllary being used by the republicans. But apparently its OK to be USED by your own party. The anybody but Clinton people didnt want her as the nomimee but now they want her to help the Anybody But Clinton crowd.

I fit into the “demographics” of those who voted for Clinton but wont vote for Obama. She cant convince me of something she doesnt believe in. He is NOT qualified for the job. It doesnt matter what she says, people will still villafy her.

Larry, realistically you have to accept the fact that the only way to ensure Obama does not win is to vote McCain. Thats a fact we all have to come to terms with.

Voting Barr or Nader, writing in hillary or staying home does nothing but ensure that Obama wins.

SO really you can frame it how ever you want but ultimately with all the nuance and nitpicking washed away its between obama and mccain.

Now you tell me.

Based on what we know.

Does McCain turn your stomach the Obama does?

Ultimately, the final question is do you or do you not want Obama to become the next president of the united states.

If you do vote for him.

If you don/t the only option to ensure you vote counts the most effectively is to vote against him.

Its terribly simple.

http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0808/547778.html

Here’s a report on the Virginia delegation, whose Clinton supporters are having a tough time swallowing Obama:

A quick survey of Battleground Virginia’s delegation to the Democratic National Convention found many Hillary Clinton supporters having a hard time supporting the presumed nominee, Illinois Senator Barack Obama , who won the Virginia primary.

“I’m feeling a little bit outside of what is happening right now,” said Norfolk delegate Vivian Paige. “Sitting on the floor last night was not as much fun as it could have been.”

Clinton and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, will address the convention Tuesday night. Hillary Clinton is expected to make an impassioned plea for party unity, asking her backers to put the same effort into Obama’s campaign for president.

Venkat Murthy, however, said he may sit out this election. The Arlington delegate said he won’t vote for the presumed GOP presidential nominee, Arizona Senator John McCain (web|news|bio), but may not support Obama either, regardless of what Clinton says in her speech.

“When November comes, I am having a hard time moving his way,” said Murthy.

Some delegates say they want Clinton to be given more credit for her struggle and narrow loss in the nominating battle. They say Tuesday’s prime time speaking slot is not enough.

BTW, I read Vivian Paige’s blog on occasion. She’s a real Democratic Party warrior, and honest in her opinions.

Hillary is doing what she must and I think the least that she can get away with wo it biting her in the ass until the end of time.

It doesn’t really matter what happens, she will get the blame if it goes wrong and Obama will get the praise for things that go right. So we may as well brace ourselves for the impending Tsunami about to crash in on Barack and Michelle’s little party.

and the most effective way to vote against Obama is to vote McCain.

Obama Democrats remind me of college kids who believe everything they’re told by their bearded commie professors.

No matter what you think of this year’s election, to call Ted Kennedy names and ignore his life of service to the nation and the party is really low. And watching Michelle Obama’s unbelievably powerful speech last night was to remember the last time the Democrats nominated someone young, inexperienced, very weak on national security and seen by many as totally unprepared for the job. He also had a brilliant and powerful wife. Like it or not, the Obamas are very reminiscent of the Clintons of 1992. Obama is probably more disciplined than Bill, and his advisors are top notch. No, he’s no messiah, Hillary may well have been the better candidate, and I certainly understand anger at the process during the primaries. But I think you’re letting your emotion get in a the way of seeing things clearly here. McCain would be horrible for the country.

I agree with your comments. What a bunch of idiots.I will vote for Ralph Nader because he has integrity and is fighting corporate corruption and the lobbyists who have spoiled the Democratic party. Ralph Nader is not a spoiler. The Democratic party is spoiled by the special interests. I wish I could have voted for Hillary but I will NEVER vote for Obama – what a phony!

Great rant, Larry. I am on the same page 100%.

Hillary Clinton gave a preview of tonight’s speech for a group of supporters in Denver earlier today, and it didn’t feature Barack Obama — at all. Peter Nicholas covered the event for the LA Times, and reports that Hillary never asked her backers to support Obama, only urging their support for “all our nominees”. If that’s the strategy she takes tonight, the snub could be historic:
She previewed the speech she is to deliver later tonight, saying, “I believe with all my heart that the Democratic Party represents a much better future for everything we believe in and care about and I will be making a very strong case tonight that we stand behind our nominees in order to keep pushing progress forward.’’
Clinton also made reference to a sore point during the primary: gender bias. Commending the hosts of the event, an organization called WomenCount, she said, “I urge all of you to support women running at all levels of government, but also on behalf of other concerns that were raised during the course of the campaign. WomenCount will continue to stand up against the pervasive bias we saw in the media.’’
Clinton stood on a small stage with her daughter, Chelsea Clinton, who did not give a speech. In her opening, Clinton talked about this being a historic week, marking the anniversary of both Martin Luther King’s “I Have a Dream’’ speech, as well as the Constitutional amendment giving women the right to vote. But in talking about the week’s significance she did not mention that convention delegates would be nominating the Democratic Party’s first African-American candidate: Obama.
Does this sound familiar to Hot Air readers? Just two months ago, Obama “forgot” to mention Hillary in a speech intended to help her raise money to retire her debt. This looks like payback, at least if she adds him in later tonight. If not, then it looks like Hillary has decided not to bother supporting Obama and instead focus on her own future in politics by ensuring a path to the nomination in 2012.
Nor is this unprecedented. As George Stephanopolous notes, a Republican seized the moment at a convention which he narrowly lost and set the stage for his eventual triumph:
Sore losers cripple Presidential nominees. Think of what Ronald Reagan did to Gerald Ford in 1976. After Ford crushed Reagan’s late challenge and refused to offer him the VP slot, he had to beg Reagan to speak at the convention. The 798 words he got were no help. Barely a mention of Ford, not a word of praise. While Reagan’s ringing defense of the GOP platform laid the groundwork for his 1980 campaign, it did nothing for Ford — who barely lost to Jimmy Carter come November.
Carter also got his comeuppance from Ted Kennedy in 1980, but that was more or less a dog-in-the-manger ploy, as Kennedy knew 1980 was his last chance to win the White House. Hillary may have looked at the Reagan example as a template for her own ambitions. In the speech earlier today, she positioned herself as the champion of civil rights and the heir of Dr. King, a rather bold assertion given Obama’s position at this convention.
Put together with Bill Clinton’s remarks earlier today as well, it looks like the Clintons have decided to only give grudging and tepid support to Barack Obama. Perhaps Hillary will change her mind by tonight, but the Clintons appear ready to take full control of their two days in the Denver spotlight.

It isn’t a decision I take likely, weighing the issues, and being realistic is how I have to arrive at my decision, and yes Larry you are right, everyone needs to make their own choice for their own reasons. What I can’t do is be part of any vetting process where an impression (even in the slight) is given that that vetting is somehow to be interpreted as support for Obama. Now I know I cannot know someone’s impression, but I have to be responsible to how I can and cannot be supportive of a candidate I choose. It is a hard walk to talk politically without the hysteria of the o campaign to not just grab hold and consider thoughtful discourse, yet another venue to exploit voters. It is what it is, the blog world.

I hear that Maddow woman is a les**ian. Not sure if this is a rumor, but she sure looks like one. GROSS! I guess brids of a feather flock together, and the gays sure seem to like Barry O!

got no use for Ted Kennedy.

You are absolutely correct.

Same here. I will not vote for McCain but I am voting against The O and his cult.

Nobama!!

CONCERN TROLL ALERT!

Grow a pair and tell us what you really think!

I think it’s going to be somewhat fun to watch the Democrats so called “leaders” explain what happen come Nov 5. We all know the liberals in the media are going to blame Hillary or anyone else besides Obama.
To hell with the Democratic Party. “08″

Teddy’s the Captain who’s going down with the Ship.
Not to mention the reason that it’s going down.

The reason, Larry, that some burden falls rightly upon Hillary Clinton… it’s staring you right in the face.

It’s because a loud, ranting minority of Democrats — claiming to act in Hillary’s name — are engaged in a campaign of personal destruction against Obama.

The fact that Hillary could not muster more than half of Democratic delegates indicates that the Democrats really want to turn the page on the Clinton family drama. And for that reason, for Obama to have chosen Hillary as his v.p. would’ve been a fatal signal of weakness.

He’s going to lose or win this thing on his own. But it’s in Hillary’s best interest — if she wants a future in the party — to back her party’s candidate.

I am hopeful (though not really expecting it) that tonight Hillary will disavow PUMA-ism in the harshest possible terms.

Speak it, Larry!

Ever wonder why there are so many hard-core leftists among today’s college professors?

It’s because it’s the only environment in which they’re able to function!!! A great many of them are angered, embittered, social cripples who wouldn’t last a month having to hold down a job out in the real world. But safe and tenured within the warm confines of academia, they’re free to bare their asses to all the world to their heart’s content without fear of retribution.

Larry, you and Susan will what you want.
I will disagree with you on the voting issue.
I will vote McCain because he IS to the left
of Bush and he will ensure that Obama never
gets to the Whitehouse. Obama and his gang
of Chicago thugs are bound to be the Tom Delay of
the Democratic party. I imagine his administration
as cross between Bush II and Nixon.

If McCain does the right thing and takes
Sarah Palin or Charlie Crist as his VP, I
am on board, at least until election day.

I am fully aware of Ted Kennedy’s history and
that little stunt he pulled at the 1980 convention.
He was very disrespectful to President Carter.
Ted Kennedy is one scumbag I would never vote for.

The Democrats have fulfilled the negative stereotypes
that the GOP has made of them over the past 40 years.

Maybe the left DOES IN FACT hate this country.

blah, blah, blah

Scott, I get what you are saying, and I think where we disagree is the part where these decisions are being attributed to emotion, mine are of rational thought, very much so, but there was emotion in the process, much like when someone is happy for their candidate and that happiness shows as well. Competition does give an open door to emotion, but that isn’t what judgment is based on, not for many. I don’t have anything to say about Senator kennedy other than I hope his health improves, and as far as Michelle Obama, I’m glad she gave a good speech. However not a reminder of the Clinton’s for me, as my perception is different, and it is the experience factor. Appreciate your opinion.

Citizen McCain:

What part should we get over: that the Dems are headed for a train wreck? Or that Obama expects HRC to pull unity out of a fractured party’s rear end?

The first is a foregone conclusion. On the second? We’ll no doubt listen to Hillary Clinton give a smashing speech. But the unity part? That’s Obama’s job and frankly, it’s above his pay grade.

Well you know, when you denigrate 8 years of the besst presidency this country had on many fronts, and cast the President as a racist and the first lady as a monster who will do anything to advance her ambitions, and cast the community organizer kitchen cabinet maker back room money launderer as the hope and change come to save yourself from yourself, some people who haven’t drunk the koolaid are boind to be a little pissed off.

But heck…keep shoveling the horseshit…there is bound to be a unity pony in there somewhere.

watch your mouth or you will get banned.

oh blah…yes its because of us….right.

seriously go play in front of the unity bus as it gets ready to roll through america.

Larry Johnson is hitting the nail…for Hillary supporters this is just pissing us off more-I am so sick of the press and the obama punks blaming the clintons for his demise-if he is runnig sucha “well oiled campaign-how come he keeps losing points to McCain? Pelosi, reid , brazile and obam kept aying they didn’t need our votes to win this thing–so why whine now if you can’t win without us? suck it up dirt bags, you said it now YOU own it.

You just contradicted yourself. You said Obama can win this on his own but Hillary needs to do more. What the hell else is she supposed to do for him?? She can’t make us vote for Obama and I don’t care what she says, I never will. This is not about personal destruction of Obama. You all continue to think “it’s all about Obama”. Well it isn’t. It’s about the good of this country and Obama is not it.

As for delegates, Obama cheated to get most of his and if Michigan and Florida had been rightly counted Hillary would have had more.

I am hopeful (though not really expecting it) that tonight Hillary will disavow PUMA-ism in the harshest possible terms.

And that’s all you’re about, UBM–harshness–like every bot before you and those who will inevitably come after you. So much for your false Messiah’s promise of new politics and hope and change. Just a lot of hot air much like each of your posts.

In case you weren’t aware: you’re part of the problem.

That is the awful truth we’re faced with this election cycle. Staying home won’t do it. Voting an alternative candidate is useless. You either vote Obama or McCain, whoever is the lesser poison.

Why does this sound so familiar????

omg…LOL

You already showed how little you respect Hillary. I repeat, McBush does not even compare to her.

BTW, where is Obama now?

UBM is one the first generation obamabots, which had a lots of glitches.

You NQ folks talk as if Obama is going to lose on election day, when in fact most pundits predict an overwhelming Obama victory. Even Vegas is picking Obama as the odds on favorite. As Nancy Pelosi has pointed out, the polls are skewed because most of the millions of new voters Obama has brought to this year’s election aren’t being properly surveyed.

yes the thing people seem to think that we are like OMG WE LOVE HILLARY! what? No Hillary then OMG WE LOVE McCAIN!!

No.

Hillary was most qualified,

Obama is horrible across the board (not going to bother listing i have posted plenty of my thoughts on that) and he gamed the system and cheated the Democratic party with the assistance of the shitty leadership that hated the clin6tons to be selected.

MCCain, meh not my choice but the man is not the political devil incarnate, and frankly that is what obama is.

He is a cult leader type with no resume and some incredibly bad judgement in his past.

I dont want him running my country.

I can live with McCain in the WHite House.

With the Democrats controlling both house and senate there is not much McCain can do.

With the Democrats running the House and Senate an Obama presidency will be a disaster of epic proportions with noone to keep him in check.

Not willing the vote for that ever.

So I will vote McCain to make sure my vote has the most impact in preventing an obama win.

4 years out, Hopefully the DNC will get their shit together and clean hosue and Hillary will get a legitamate shot.

Like I said, Obama, doesn’t seem to ever take responsibility for himself. So sure blame anyone who doesn’t support him, that will help.

Why don’t you fly away, back to the mothership. Your comments are out of line, as you are. Take your meds, please!

Obama needs help, who needs to get over it now??

For years, the press was the moluthpiece/bullhorn for the Clinton crime family.
Now, they’ve shifted allegiance, its all their fault.
I DESPISE and LOATHE the totally corrupt collection of 2nd-rate minds (journalism majors) who bring us propoganda badly disguised as news, BUT you Clinton supporters don’t really have much to cry about.

You lie down with dogs, you get fleas.

seriously go play in front of the unity bus as it gets ready to roll through america.

Actually, I think their idea is to roll over (and not through) America.

Well, God only knows the pundits, are always so correct on everything.

Chappaquidick is nothing to be proud of.
Ted Kennedy is for the estate tax
yet hides his family fortune in trust funds
in order to avoid the tax.
Kennedy: A spoiled trust fund brat!

I agree. The 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling has been overused.

I’ll be looking forward to Hillary’s speech this evening.

PUMA people aren’t very good Clinton supporters, as they have been ignoring her marching orders of supporting Obama.

It’s the free-dumb fighter. And look, he’s brought his battle flag, the one with the lily white field and a yellow stripe down the center.

LMAO…..

We don’t follow blindly like you automatons do, free-dumb fighter.

Looking for his hopey changey glitter and sparkle …

I am watching the convention coverage on all the cable “news” channels this evening. It has made me so ill that I’ve decided to get some real perspective here (where I often retreat.) What is resonating from all the channels, except FOX news who are just having fun stirring the pot and irking MSNBC and their ring leader Olberman, is that this is somehow Hillary’s mess to clean-up. That somehow it is Hillary who has to win this election for BO. And this by the same damn pundits who made me so pissed off over the primary season that I wanted to punch my television for being in the tank for the Obama campaign and proud to display it on national television.

I have never had more repect for Sen. Hillary Clinton than I do on this day. For doing what a woman often has to do. Pick up the man’s dirty laundry.

I wonder if you would be saying the same thing if this happened the other way around. If you are a true democrat and believe in democracy and know anything about democracy then you would have an entire different response. it is you and idiots like you who will need to get over it in 4 years when Hillary comes back and does the exact same thing she did this time. Win the majority. Only this time maybe we will have cleaned out enough of the trash for her to make a difference.

Thats because unlike the koolaid drinking pod poeple hitler youth, most clinton supporters support the candidate because they find her to be smart and effective not because they have a need for a messianic complex for Jesusdaddy to save them from themselves.

Yeah and we are not bringing our fleas to your pary to vote for your chiuwawa…

LOL. While in the real world, it’s your leader, HRC who is waving the white flag.

Lets all raise one for the protesters in the streets of Denver getting teargassed and pepper sprayed and not getting media coverage……

I live in Florida, and just like voters in Ohio, Michigan, and all of the other swing states, I have to hold my nose and vote for McCain to keep this train wreck from becoming the next POTUS.

If I lived in a solid blue or red state, I would just stay home, but I can’t sit by and reward him for caucus fraud, and his general treatment of the Clinton’s, not to mention his disdain for white middle class red blooded working Americans.

NOBAMA!!

The fact that you are ignoring her pleas to support Obama shows you don’t really think she is all that smart.

Sctt Erb Sorry to disappoint you but Obama would be the worse president we have had. I suspect even as bad as Bush. Seems the Democratic Party never learns. They Love to loose!!!!!!

What is not to ban?

Comment by A SLAP IN THE FACE | 2008-08-26 16:30:24

While Hillary Clinton was at Woodstock getting high and rolling in the mud like a filthy pig, John McCain was defending his country against COMMUNISM over the skies of Viet-Nam.

While Hillary Clinton was busy being sleazy in Arkansas (Whitewater), John McCain was fighting against corruption in the Senate (ethics reformer).

While Hillary Clinton was rubbing stains out of the White House Carpet, John McCain was standing up to the forces of intolerance within the Republican Party.

When it comes to national service, experience, and DUTY, HONOR, AND COUNTRY – I hate to burst your bubble – but McCain is simply better than Hillary. I like Hillary better than the anti-christ Obama, but when it comes to McCain he is far and away the best choice of all! Hillary might be a tough politician, but she wouldn’t last one minute in a bamboo cage (would any woman?) I’m sorry, but McCain would have destroyed Hillary had Obambi not stolen the Demoncrap nomination. Better for Hillary to wait her turn, in 2016 – after McCain’s two terms.

You will get worse if you lie down with Obama.

Why would you claim to support Hillary when you won’t even support her decision to support her own party?

At least show a thread of intellectual honesty.

There is no way Michelle Obama’s speech was captured in the poll’s today.

Now, you could accuratly argue the VP pick was factored into the majority of the rolling average but we won’t know the starting impact of Michelle’s speech until tomorrow and Wed/Thursday for the full impact.

Is that how you get people to support your tin foil hat cult, trick them?

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Her sexual preference has nothing to do with my dislike of her. Her mouth comes to mind. And I dont like the “way” she poses and rams her opinions down others throat. We are not children, and I dont like being talked to like one. Thats my issue with Maddow.

LOL!!!!

Excuse me, A slap in the face. but I cannot remain silent when anyone tries to blame Hillary for any of this mess. I suspect you are a Republican and care nothing about the attacks on Hillary. She and her husband have dedicated their lives to public service and the vehicle thay have used is the Democratic Party. I expect she knows quite a bit more than you or me about the best way to achieve her goals for this country. If she has been shut out of ever becomming president by the DNC, she will continue her life of public service and do her best to accomplish what she can for the 18+mil who voted for her. She will, “never give up and never give in ” and when things change (and they always do), she will be there just like she has always been, fighting for health care, families, security and for anyone needing help. BTW. I don’t think I have seen your name on this site before so it’s a little odd you come here now to challenge Larry Johnson. What you said about TM doesn’t apply here since I doubt I will ever hear him say the things TM has said about Hillary and her supporters.

“He’s going to lose or win this thing on his own. But it’s in Hillary’s best interest — if she wants a future in the party — to back her party’s candidate.”

is this a threat??????????

sure sounds like one to me.

maybe, Undercover Black Man, should be checked out.

Good for her. Why elevate the character of this fiasco and be magnamimous. They will continue to p.ss on her either way.

No I think the Unity COncern Troll is the latest flavor of Koolaid coming from Camp Omessiah.

You on the other hand are still the same old obama apologist you have always been.

I am aware of how much you troll here and so anything you say i consider to be equivalant to what drops out of the back end of a unity pony.

Bollocks.

I think the implication is clear. If Obama loses in November, Clinton’s political career as a Democrat will be effectively over. She will be more hated than Joe Lieberman.

You rock!

That’s great. I respect your position and encourage you to make your case here.
LJ

Hillary has far more reason than Ted did back in 1980 to insist on a vote

NO SHIT. That is why I refuse to watch this bullshit convention coronation.

If they want my vote, pissing me off is not a good strategy.

Every Hillary voter that does not vote for Obama means that Obama must get a vote from a new voter.

Every Hillary voter that votes for McCain means that Obama must get TWO new voters just to eqal that one lost vote.

Hillary had 18 mil votes. The polls conservatively that 25% of those voters are voting for McCain.

That means 4.5 million Hillary voters are voting for McCain.

That means Obama must add a whopping 9 million new voters to replace the lost Hillary Democrats.

9 million new voters just to break even.

And, after the convention, who knows how many more Hillary Democrats and Independents will swing to McCain.

Every swing from Obama to McCain = a difference of two votes.

This year my vote equals two votes. And it is going to McCain.

Of course its a threat.

First they threatened Riots if the the Super Delegates gave it to clinton.

SO the super delegates gave it to obama.

Now they are threatening if Hilllary doesnt make sure Obama wins.

Whats funny is that its not Hillary’s people who were gaming caucuses having dead people vote having people vote multiple times and calling on republicans to go democrat for a day to vote obama.

If they want to steal the general election they should look to the people who stole the nomination to help them.

They should look to themselves.

Win without us.

Mccain will be not as Risky as Obama.

His radicals,friends gave Obama a bad reputation.imo

ATTENTION: HOWARD DEAN, NANCY PELOSI
FAX FOR A DEMAND FOR A PUBLIC ROLL CALL FOR SENATOR HILLARY R. CLINTON
If You Expect Hillary to Do it Then Nominate Her, Damn It!!
By Larry Johnson on August 26, 2008 at 7:50 PM in Current Affairs
What the hell is the matter with the so-called leaders of the Democratic Party? They are putting the burden and blame on Hillary if she does not rally the base for Barack? Today’s news that Barack fell father behind John McCain following last night’s buffoonery with Michelle as Harriet Nelson was grist for Bonnie Erbe, who wrote:
It’s always dangerous to read too much into daily tracking polls. But the timing of this drop for Obama could turn out to be significant. The Gallup Daily presidential tracking poll shows McCain ahead by a statistically-insignificant 2 points, but what’s important is that Obama’s selection of Sen. Joe Biden is not pulling in any support and candidates traditionally see a bounce coming out of their conventions, not a drop. This makes the Hillary vote, white working class Americans and white women 40+, all the more critical to Obama’s efforts. The media spin and the campaign spin, putting the onus of party unification on Clinton, is bound to annoy her supporters all the more. I heard several of them complaining about it last night at the Pepsi Center while watching Michelle Obama’s speech. Yes, Michelle Obama put in a complimentary line or two about Sen. Clinton, but the Obama campaign is going to have to do much, much more.
And I am ripshit livid over the hypocrisy that accompanied the fawning tribute to Teddy Kennedy. We are talking a level of irony that almost transcends human ability to find words to describe what transpired.
Start with the video tribute showing a younger, vibrant Ted Kennedy delivering a speech at the 1980 Democratic convention. Most of you may not remember that event, but there was real division at the convention. Kennedy had a 1000 fewer delegates than Jimmy Carter, an incumbent President. So, did Ted counsel conciliation? Supporting the guy who actually won the most votes? Hell no. That self-absorbed clown actually asked delegates committed to Carter to abandon the President and support him.
So excuse me if I don’t get teary over Ted’s bullshit farewell last night. Hillary has far more reason than Ted did back in 1980 to insist on a vote. In fact, Ted got a real roll call at the convention. At least Jimmy Carter did not try to screw him out of his right to have a vote and make his case. But the fat, drunk senior Senator from Massachusetts refuses to insist on the same right for Hillary Clinton. She won more votes than Barack Obama but does not get a chance to make her case to the people of America for herself.
No!! She has to make the case for a poseur who is already heading for disaster. So whether you excuse me or not, I am pissed. It is not fair and it is not right. Yet, Hillary with grace and courage will stand up tonight and make a sincere case to support the kid from Illinois who is not ready, as his own running mate acknowledged, for the big time. And many pundits and party leaders put the onus on her for making the case for Barack? That is bullshit!!! It is not her job to make his case. If she has to do his job for him than why in the hell is he being given the job? I don’t get it.
-Over 18 millionVoters Demand a Public Roll Call without a forced demand to vote for Obama over our choice of Senator Hillary R. Clinton for President!! We demand it in an open public roll call forum or come November, most of you left standing in the DNP will be looking for another job!!-
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After all the crap pulled by the Clintons this year, she’ll be lucky to hold on to her Senate seat, much less run for president in 8 years!

good riddens to the drama and deviciveness of the Clintons!

I want to bring a little reality. Hillary cannot do what Kennedy did. Unfortunately for her, (Obama knows it, and that’ why he treats her like shit) she has to play Obama’s game. Hillary is stuck supporting the jerk (thank God we don’t have to) because Hillary needs the AA vote to run future campaigns (senate or general). Let’s support Hillary by not supporting Obama.

I agree with you and I will be voting JM in November. Then HRC 2012.

Your vote may equal 2 votes this year, but you will be voting for someone who is the opposite of Hillary on virtually every issue. The man you will be voting for: McCain = Bush, Bush = Hitler.

You don’t understand politics. When you’re the nominee and you don’t deliver the election– YOUR political future is over. Dems don’t renominate general election losers. Do you see Gore or Kerry on the podium this week? No. You need to get real. When Obama loses, it’s over for him.

Dan… you are 100% correct and I will be voting for Mccain… for that reason and more!

At least with McCain in, and Democrat congress we have a balance of power. I think Bush in with Rep congress… no balance of power hurt us alot!

Barack in with a Democratic Congress.. could mean disaster for this country! We don’t even know who this man is or if he is eligible to win the White House! …..

And we need to reclaim the Democratic Party.

Hillary is what we really need!

Maybe there should be a crazy move like Hillary be McCains VP pick! lol…..

Then 4 years as VP.. then 8 as President!

Isn’t he going to appear at the Convention Center?

There is no way Michelle Obama’s speech was captured in the poll’s today.

That just means the Obama poll numbers will be worse when voters finish puking from Michelle’s speech.

I thought role call votes were also there to accept the VP person,also..Isn’t there used to be a vote for the VP to be validated.

and here he is again folks …

$7/HR SoetorObama TROLL

UnderCoverBlackMan

STILL as full of shit as a Thanksgiving turkey.

pathetic

Well she has something in common with Matthews and Olbermann.

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And so it’s come to this. I’m defending Larry Johnson.

Let Larry be Larry. I don’t know whether his endorsement would help or hurt McCain. It could do both.

I (or “we” at the VRWC) certainly don’t always agree with his conclusions, but sometimes he brings data points that don’t make it through the noise elsewhere.

I’m being a bit selfish because he lets somebody like me post here. But if he doesn’t go banning people solely for having a different viewpoint, then he deserves not to be hammered for remaining independent.

The media has always hated the Clintons’
The only crime families are the “American” dynasties
the Bush’s and the Kennedy’s.

taking his meds I’m sure. Maybe he’s hiding in the attic until Thursday.

Dan R.

I am not an Obama supporter and I am a leftist. I think there are fewer leftists in universities than most people believe, especially when one factors in the sciences, engineering, and agriculture. Notwithstanding, there are many lefties in universities.

Academic life is hard work. I know many professors. I am a part-time doctoral student. I also have journeyman’s tickets in three trades and I teach steamfitting full-time at a technical institute. I’ve worked many years out in the field, rain, shine, or blizzard in temperatures ranging from 40 below to 95 above, so I have a sense of what counts as hard work or holding down a job in the real world.

Further, academia is increasingly having a hard time keeping their star staff because people can find jobs in the private sector that are more lucrative and less demanding on their time.

“Angered”, embittered”, “social cripples” sounds a lot like bitter folks clinging to their guns and religion. This is not to say that people like this don’t exist at universities, it’s just that they are not the norm.

It is vital to the active practise of free speech that people can “bare their asses”, as long as they recognize that the right to free speech comes with responsibilities to use that right appropriately.

It is a sad truth that students question much less than they should and take too much of what they hear as gospel. Unfortunately, this means they are like most of us, which is why we are so easily manipulated by the mainstream media.

SM

If you put down the crack pipe and kick the hopium habit and join the sober side of the planet, you’d realize your ZEROBAMA is really SHITLER.

I am voting for the best candidate for the US, and that is not BARACK “SHITLER” OBAMA.

RIGHT ON PEGGY!

Pfft. That’s a crock Bill.

Come back here on Saturday morning (as I know you love to do), and we’ll discuss the polls then.

By Friday, McCain will/should announce his VP pick, which will trump Obama’s stadium rockstar speach on Thursday…

… I predict the decline you’re now witnessing, with or without Michelle’s speach (which I agree was sound), will continue.

A bounce for Obama after this Convention will be non-existent, which the polls will reflect solidly.

This convention is a farce from beginning to end. Obama has no business running for this office. He has not even done his homework and has no idea how deep in over his head he is.

Hillary would be comfortably ahead in the race at this point in time, Clark would be the VP pick and we’d be on our way to a big win.

Dean, Pelosi, Kerry and Brazile et al need to be exorcised from the party. They are clueless and careless as to the needs of the American people.

Comment by A SLAP IN THE FACE | 2008-08-26 20:25:25

I hear that Maddow woman is a les**ian. Not sure if this is a rumor, but she sure looks like one. GROSS! I guess brids of a feather flock together, and the gays sure seem to like Barry O!

Nice – typical noquarter poster. Does it make you feel good to be so shallow? Rachel is gorgeous and smart….just because she is for Obama NOW (she was for Hillary until Hillary started to compare Obama to McCain and Rachel said that went too far) you have to bash her. you Hillary supporters are sure angry, bitter, insecure and ugly in your attitudes.

Thanks Larry for shouting it out from the roof top for many of us! BULLSHIT is the only word I have for this whole dog and pony show. This jackass barry can’t even do it himself. The more Hillary has to make a case for this jackass, the wimpier he becomes. McCain & Co. should use this from now to Nov to show America what a fuckin’ wimp barry soetoro really is.

LOL…

Psst…Can’t trick people if they have strong reading comprehension. Otherwise they are just tricking themselves.

So I suggest you may want to reread the FIRST sentence of the quote he placed up for debate.

“It’s always dangerous to read too much into daily tracking polls. But the timing of this drop for Obama could turn out to be significant…..”

If you don’t want Obama as president, you’ll need to vote for McCain. I don’t agree with McCain on all issues but at least he doesn’t have a bunch of shady friends like Obama. Obama can’t even win on his own & expects Hillary & Bill to help him win the race. Don’t forget how Michelle said she didn’t know if she could vote for Hillary & accused her of not being able to run her own house.

Please excuse our friend Freedom Fighter, the kid just came back from the Madonna concert in London.

I am a lifelong Democrat but I am forced to agree with you.

I think if Hillary were actually allowed to make a case for herself tonight and delegates were actually ‘allowed’ to vote for her she would win.

According to most experts and pundits who have watched Michelle’s speech last night, they unanimously agree she hit it out of the park. Expect the poll numbers to rise 15-20%.

Obama has to go. But I think he’s closer to a neocon than to a hard leftist. He voted for the Bush-Cheney energy bill (the worst bill ever passed); he voted for FISA; wants more guns, wants more executions. He comes from the absurdly right-wing University of Chicago. If he were a commie, he might really bring some change. But he’s really a crooked pol, with no real political position.

Keep in mind, right-wingers always say any Democrat running for President is a commie. They called FDR a commie. They called JFK a commie. They called Bill Clinton a commie. They called Kerry a commie. They even called Hillary a commie. Conservatives are as predictable as the sunrise.

Right-wingers would fail a simple test about communism, but will call anyone a commie who disagrees with them in the slightest way. So we can safely ignore them when they call Obama a commie. That’s not the problem with this guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4HrSQySus8

How come no Hillary signs for her speech..This is complete Bullshit.

windy…

go break your wind somewhere else.

time for you to turn on the tv and listen to a real leader speak…

There all Mccain more of the same signs…..

Hillary was robbed of this election..Totally robbed.imo

They didn’t make up Hillary Clinton signs,,,,

I thought we were all of 30 people not falling in line. Blame your guy Undercover dude, not us. If he had experience, integrity and stop with the race baiting we would have believed.

He’s in St Louis ooops No he’s in Kansas City! :O)

Btw I don’t know what he’s doing in SL

Hard to survey dead people and felons.

only barry soetoro signs are allowed on the floor.

The rage I feel of what is expected of Hillary by the DNC is almost unbearable. For her to have to be judged by how well she makes the case the Obama is sinful- absolutely sinful when everybody knows she is the more qualified candidate and the true leader and American patriot. It is the ultimate outrage. Despite the utmost respect I feel for her, there is nothing she could say that would convince me to vote for Obama. Nothing. My heart is broken.

She’s not our “leader”. I’d like her to be leader of this country but the dipshicks of the UNDNC and the MSOM decided on the empty suit with no leadership abilities. By the way, it’s not leadership when it’s a cult following, it’s manipulation and propaganda working.

Isn’t that the way its supposed to work by the rules…Where’s Brazile,and her mother now,when the rules can be broken if there favour.imo

You may be right.

My only point was that all the poll agregate sites pointed out that Wednesday will be the best day to see the impact (if any) of Michell’s speech. Zero impact today. The polling takes place early evening, before Michelle spoke.

That was my only point…. I’m not predicting what will or will not happen, only commenting on the facts regarding the poll impact.

I’m a republican and didn’t like Hillary until I saw how she ran her campaign. I was rooting for her all the way in hopes she would beat Obama. I think she was treated unfairly by her own party because she’s a woman & the big boys thought she might have more power than them.

Exactly!

That is BS. I hear there’s a kegger down the hall. Get going, FF.

The Political chess game goes beyond this election.
I trust hillary is doing the right thing and I will vote for her in 2012.

Just like to say that it depends on which department you’re in. I teach economics in a college of business and most of the folks I know are moderate to conservative. We work quite hard and staying up in our areas means we get out of the ivory towers a lot.

Bush never voted to deny medical care for newborn babies who survived abortions but Obama did….so don’t come here with that Hitler crap.

That’s exactly what I was thinking when I saw Ted Kennedy in that clip last night. Of all the hypocrisy, that was the biggest. This party has no shame! The leaders are scum-sucking little s**ts! And NO ONE in the party has the balls to call them on it! Is there not one single person left to stand up to the Chicago Thugacratic Party? We used to have reporters to do that, but no more. We used to have party leaders, now we just have party takers.

Then they expect Bill and Hillary to “enthusiastically support” Obama and have a “Pee Wee Reese” moment, as that smug ass Jesse Jackson, Jr publicly proclaims and then Doug Wilder and Clyburn sit around pontificating whether their support is tepid and not enough!

I don’t know how the Clintons do it – they’re much better people than I am.

If I didn’t already have enough reasons to not vote for Obama, Jackson Junior sealed the deal for me yesterday. He’s putrid and filled with hate.

you mean just like his european world tour and his vp pick, wheres the bounce there?

I frankly am not happy about having to choose between Barack or McCain. But this much I know, I can not support Barack.

Then you’ve either chosen McCain, or to stay home. In my view, if you take either of those choices, your moral right – either to bitch about the course of the Democratic Party or the country in general – is forfeit.

maybe it’s because we’re free to make our own choices, we’re not mindless sheeps who follows a false prophet off a cliff.

Cnn just interviewed a delegate for Clinton..SHe was crying ,and spoke very well..She said Clinton delivered a Presidencial speech tonite…And said Obama doesn’t have a resume,and no experience./and when Clinton speaks,you know there will be change.She said Obama needs to respond to her speech..

It was a crying event!!!!!!!!!

Clinton had a tearjerker speech,and it was Presidential speech,but she never Said Obama would be a good President,or if he was ready to be commander and chief,,only they should vote for him.

Obama has no one to blame but Obama.

Who is responsible for Obama’s relationships with Wright, Ayers, TUCC, Soros, Brzezinski, Votes to kill “Born Alive Babies, “Present” votes backflipping more than the Chinese gymnastics team, and on and on.

This list of why Obama is not qualified would sink a battleship. It is well documented in posts on this blog and elsewhere. No need to repeat all of it.

SO, HOW THE FUCK IS ANYONE ON THIS SITE RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMAS ACTIONS AND THE CHOICES HE MADE THROUGHOUT HIS LIFE?

Just like a typical left wing asshole you and Obama and all the other Ghetto Monkeys never want to take responsibility for your own actions.

It’s societies fault, it’s anybody’s fault but your own. Go cry a river, because I do not give a rats crap about who you think is responsible for OBAMAS OWN FAILURE.

OBAMA IS THE ZERO, NOT THE ONE.

AND BTW, IF IT WAS OK IN ’04 TO SAY JOHN KERRY HAS A HORSE FACE, THEN IN ’08 IT IS OK TO SAY OBAMA HAS A MONKEY FACE.

AND JOHN KERRY NO LONGER RESEMBLES A HORSE, JUST A HORSES ASS.

I am from NY and New Yorkers voted for her overwhelmingly twice. She is a great Senator for NY. New York is lucky to have her.

Get Lost.

Come the General Election, I’m writing her name in.

President: Hillary Clinton.

Steve, you’re quite right that most college professors fit your description. With only a few exceptions, the ones I had in college (a large southern state school) were normal, hardworking, very engaging people.

But I honestly do feel that there is a highly disproportionate share of “angry leftists” in academia for the reasons I stated. This is especially true of certain universities and certian disciplines. Maybe it’s just that the Ward Churchills and Noam Choamskys of the world are the ones that get all the media attention.

ALL the “Experts and Pundits” have been telling us since ’04 that OBAMA is the greatest thing since flush toilets.

SO, HOW COME HE IS SUCKING PIG PEE IN THE POLLS?

If When Obama loses in November it will be Obama’s fault. NO ONE ELSE’S. He is a weak candidate, a fraud, a clossal flop-flopper, inexpereinced, and not qualified. When the American people finally learn who he is and what he is about they will vote for McCain. Hillary can support him, urge her supporters to do the same, and campaugn for him. But ultimately it is up to Obama to run his own campaign.

Problem is he’s not man enough to do that.

Please do remember that some of us ardent Hillary supporters are in fact liberal arts college grads who are members of the very creative class that Obama supposedly has sewn up. Don’t assume we’re all social idiots…

SM -

Bravo and thank you.

While I guess I can understand your view, I disagree that Pelosi, Michael Moore, and the mentioned are the ‘hard-left’. They are certainly patronizing lefties, but hard left? nah…hardly.

As I’ve shared here before, the enamoured Zapatista left, those who have the romantic notion of a leftist overthrow of classism and the rise of the proletariat as the influential class, are who Obama played to. But they don’t support Pelosi. They find Michael Moore petty and obnoxious. In fact he’s probably a sellout on some level or failed to check his sexism.

Sorry, I just have to counter that you mentioned people that are hardly the ‘hard left’ and then I have to question the remaining logic if the first pillars fall so easily.

So, who would you shake? well, yes Pelosi can go to hell as far as I’m concerned. She’s a corrupt dreamer. Her vision of a 20 year reign of Democrats is remarkably naive or historically ambitious. She dares say she isn’t impeaching because it might compromise (throwing the fucking dice) election in 2008.

I think the Democrats deserve to lose, just like I believed they deserved to lose in 2000 for focusing on Nader instead of that mutant fetus George Bush. Just like Kerry losing his goddamn backbone from Swiftboat attacks. If they aren’t true, then fuck off, is what he should have said. But no…spineless. Compromised.

This isn’t about Hillary Clinton, but about the gross arrogance of party manipulators who for so long talked a good tale about inclusion and diversity, but not really meaning a single word of it. They are the real wolves in your house. They are the ones who pass the drinks to the drunk Republicans. Enablers.

This is about all the people who voted for their candidate and then watched them skirted off the side before the end of the process, whether by deying them debate access (Kucinich, Gravel, etc), to the calling of Obama as nominee this very day when with just a few crossover votes could just easily be a Clinton nomination.

They lie very day, Obama is our nominee…the critics repeat it in refutation…then it becomes so.

There needs to be a systematic shakedown of the DNC if it wants real inclusion. Currently it is a junk pile of its former roots busting at the seems with all sorts of complicated people, voters, who have differences of opinions, and the party bosses, Brazille, Dean, Pelosi, etc, are driving it into the ground.

I’m stepping out of its way and voting independent.

uber neo cons who have embedded themselves with McCain

That is a legitimate concern. But, I am willing to take that chance, especially knowing McCains independent Maverick streak.

And, as bad as is the possibility of a neocon, the reality of Obambi is MUCH WORSE.

I’ve always hated the “Lesser of Two Evils” (Or weevils, if you read Patrick O’Brien), and “The Devil That You Know” cliches. But, for many this election may come down to that measure.

make sure that in the state you vote the rule doesnt count any vote for a democrat that is a write in for somoene who happens to be democrat, doesnt go to the actual democratic candidate on the ticket.

In those states a write in vote for Hillary = an actual vote for Obama.

Sadly, you are 100% correct, registered Repub.

I’m pissed, too, Larry.

Ted got a roll call vote and no one pressured him. Jesse Jackson, Sr. did, too.

And they expect us not to know our history?

Well I guess this is the new Party of text messengers and kids born after the fact and too young to know.

They do this to Hillary Clinton, the first viable female candidate and they expect Party Unity from us?

Excuse me but, Party Unity, my ass.

My vote is a punishment to the DNC. I don’t intend to vote for one Democrat either.

If the Party needs Hillary to fix Party Unity, then she should be the nominee.

But you know what else is true? This is playing out all over the world. Do these highly paid politicians think any in the rest of the world are going to take 0bama seriously if he can’t lead his own Party and needs Hillary?

Just unbelievable…. Freakin unbelievabe

Do you live in NYS?

If you don’t, then STFU!

Hillary made MAJOR inroads upstate/Republican territory. They love her as a Senator up there. NYS is not just NYC.

Also, latinos like Hillary too and they are the new majority minority. AAs can stay home if they want to, it won’t matter. She can win without them. And I dare them to complain when latinos get more services than them. Trust me, come crunch time, a good many will see the light and vote for Hillary.

And after the way you Botheads have behaved and the way the DNP has treated her, I’d say she’s in real good shape.

Get your head out of your ass and haul it over to a pr0bama blog.

Dan R — you come at this from a different perspective however as a Lifelong Dem I totally agree with you. This is George McGovern all over again. Whats worse is that the DNC told its base to stay home because they thought they could win with latte drinking liberals and the youth vote. Now they see that they cannot win unless they have the Hillary supporters but its too late. I have had it with the party I have identified with all my life and have changed parties. I will vote a Straight Republican ticket. Howard Dean, Donna Brazile, Michael Moore, Nancy Pelosi, Teddy Kennedy and the rest have destroyed the Democratic Party. I cannot be part of this debacle.

0bama certainly has the Dumbo ears to prove it.

Me either. And I cut my teeth on Camelot.

larry — thats good enough for me. You are the best. I know that whatever you say is what you honestly believe in.

Not necessarily Jason.

If Larry lives in a state where the margin of error is so wide then he CAN stay home or vote 3rd Party. For example if 0bama is 10 pts ahead, then his one vote won’t make a difference and vice versa. They count Electoral votes not popular votes.

Only people in states where it is a solid horse race have to make a choice.

I live in a solid blue state that Hillary would have one hands down. If McCain becomes competitive and it’s starting to look like he will given all of 0bama’s inability to inspire voter confidence, then I’m voting for McCain. If 0bama manages to gain the leverage back then I’ll vote 3rd Party.

The ball is truly in 0bama’s court.

scott — Obama should stop pretending he was every great person who ever lived. Obama is no JFK period the end.

“an electoral enema to flush out the hard leftists who have taken it over”

And that is well worth voting for McCain.

Oh, Steve Mather, by ‘hard leftists’ I think Dan means MoveOn — the people making excuses for slut John Edwards, who voted for the war, then slammed Hillary for voting for the war, then preached pre-emptive war against Iran to the Israeli War Council, then slammed Hillary for Kyl-Lieberman. You may mean something else when you identify yourself as a leftist, so it’s nothing personal. William Ayers is a leftist — I’ll assume you don’t identify with that trash.

i think you are exactly right. if the dems are to have any future they must excommunicate the anti-american, pro-islam professional whiners from the party.

Hey guy, I’m a bearded leftist “commie” professor–on my 35th year in college and I’ve never worked in a tenured environment and I think George Bush is the worse president in history but if I have to choose between Bush and Obama. I’ll vote for Bush. btw, the military thought I functioned just fine, as did a few private employers before I went stupid and started teaching, so why don’t you save the insults for Otrolls and their ilk?

Applause for the honorable JDGAWright.

That pony isn’t parking in my stable. It is covered in chit and will not come clean.

You can’t polish a turd.

After all these months, the dems come up with a ticket that is as appealing as a case of “shingles”!

For me, Kennedy’s speach and all his talk of passing the party to Obama and a new generation only reinforced what is so wrong with the dem party and why so many are enraged. It is not up to Kennedy or the DNC or even the Clintons to pass the party over to anyone. Strangely enough many dems thought the primary was for rank and file dems to determine who will lead us into the future.

A vote for Obama now, is a vote not only for the man, but for the process that begot him. You can no longer seperate the two.

After all that Bush & Co. have done to steal our rights, are we willing to quietly roll over while our own dem party steals our rights and our voices. After that what is left of our democaracy?

Go out and earn the White House and stop whining about the Clintons, damn it. It’s over. It’s not Clinton’s fault if Obama loses. She’s done everything Democrats have demanded of her, and done it perfectly. But they still can’t stop blaming her!

August 27, 2008 –

WHY is Hillary Clinton not Barack Obama’s running mate?

http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly/print.php?url=http://www.nypost.com/seven/08272008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/she_done_him_right_126276.htm