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	<title>Comments on: Senator Graham Walks Away From Cap And Trade &#8212; Monday&#8217;s Roll Out of Bill Postponed</title>
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		<title>By: I'm a Linda too</title>
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		<dc:creator>I'm a Linda too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 15:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When businesses can hire a body to do the work for even-if only half the salary, they do. &#160;And when you have an illegal willing to take that, because he doesn&#039;t have to care about the cost of living in this country, he will.

The funniests thing is, these companies lose in the end. &#160;Example, they think if they hire 5 illegal Mexicans to do a job that it normally only takes 2 Americans to do (landscaping or home building work) that it still cost them less, but the product is much worse and costs them far more than if they hired skilled legal workers.

Here in NM it is just amazing. &#160;I have 5 guys standing around. &#160;They look around like &quot;what am I supposed to do?&quot; They are moving rakes, but don&#039;t even pick up the debris. &#160;No shit, I&#039;ve watched them rake all the debris in to a pile and leave it between two homes on the dividing property. &#160;They don&#039;t cut and trim trees and leave all the cuttings on the grass to kill it. &#160;If I told you how they plow snow, you would ask for a video. &#160;They just don&#039;t understand what they are doing. &#160;I watched one guy drive the plow up and down my street about 5 times....ready? &#160;He actually had the plow facing to the left, so every time he drove along the sides of the street, he piled the snow in the middle of the road. &#160;I kid you not. &#160;I actually went out and took pictures.

Or the guys that don&#039;t know why they are told to put nails all in the wall, and puncture water and electrical lines.

Or the &quot;one helper&quot; who the landscaper is telling what to do to run the water line through pvc piping in the ground, is explaining it 3 times, trying to speak spanish to communicate, then gives up and does it himself.

After having a guy saw in to my custom frame countertop, because he thought he could hold the guide loose while sawing, instead of securing it, my husband and I swore we will not hire any company here to do work and do it ourselves.

This is why they are trying to work out deals with labor and businesses. &#160;Only, when they become legal, the businesses won&#039;t be able to hold over their head below normal wages. &#160;Does that mean this effort will actually get skilled workers working again? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When businesses can hire a body to do the work for even-if only half the salary, they do. &nbsp;And when you have an illegal willing to take that, because he doesn&#8217;t have to care about the cost of living in this country, he will.</p>
<p>The funniests thing is, these companies lose in the end. &nbsp;Example, they think if they hire 5 illegal Mexicans to do a job that it normally only takes 2 Americans to do (landscaping or home building work) that it still cost them less, but the product is much worse and costs them far more than if they hired skilled legal workers.</p>
<p>Here in NM it is just amazing. &nbsp;I have 5 guys standing around. &nbsp;They look around like &#8220;what am I supposed to do?&#8221; They are moving rakes, but don&#8217;t even pick up the debris. &nbsp;No shit, I&#8217;ve watched them rake all the debris in to a pile and leave it between two homes on the dividing property. &nbsp;They don&#8217;t cut and trim trees and leave all the cuttings on the grass to kill it. &nbsp;If I told you how they plow snow, you would ask for a video. &nbsp;They just don&#8217;t understand what they are doing. &nbsp;I watched one guy drive the plow up and down my street about 5 times&#8230;.ready? &nbsp;He actually had the plow facing to the left, so every time he drove along the sides of the street, he piled the snow in the middle of the road. &nbsp;I kid you not. &nbsp;I actually went out and took pictures.</p>
<p>Or the guys that don&#8217;t know why they are told to put nails all in the wall, and puncture water and electrical lines.</p>
<p>Or the &#8220;one helper&#8221; who the landscaper is telling what to do to run the water line through pvc piping in the ground, is explaining it 3 times, trying to speak spanish to communicate, then gives up and does it himself.</p>
<p>After having a guy saw in to my custom frame countertop, because he thought he could hold the guide loose while sawing, instead of securing it, my husband and I swore we will not hire any company here to do work and do it ourselves.</p>
<p>This is why they are trying to work out deals with labor and businesses. &nbsp;Only, when they become legal, the businesses won&#8217;t be able to hold over their head below normal wages. &nbsp;Does that mean this effort will actually get skilled workers working again?</p>
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		<title>By: AnnieCarmel</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnnieCarmel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 06:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I think we all know that all the great works, discoveries, art, literature, systems, etc. are of Muslim origin.&#160; Einstein for instance....obviously a Muslim.&#160; Leonardo, Plato, Newton...all Muslims.&#160; LOL! Why does he continue to disavow his brothers? &#160; He has never read great works much less studied history.&#160; Such an embarrassment.&#160; Papa Doc played golf and Mama Doc played...tennis at the posh retreat this weekend...just like the upper crust.&#160; But what does it matter?&#160; They will never be more than gutter snipes. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I think we all know that all the great works, discoveries, art, literature, systems, etc. are of Muslim origin.&nbsp; Einstein for instance&#8230;.obviously a Muslim.&nbsp; Leonardo, Plato, Newton&#8230;all Muslims.&nbsp; LOL! Why does he continue to disavow his brothers? &nbsp; He has never read great works much less studied history.&nbsp; Such an embarrassment.&nbsp; Papa Doc played golf and Mama Doc played&#8230;tennis at the posh retreat this weekend&#8230;just like the upper crust.&nbsp; But what does it matter?&nbsp; They will never be more than gutter snipes.</p>
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		<title>By: Cosco Sprint Travel System, Hannah &#124; Baby Travel Systems</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cosco Sprint Travel System, Hannah &#124; Baby Travel Systems</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 05:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BuzzLatte</title>
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		<dc:creator>BuzzLatte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 03:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess he may not be able to run for president in AZ unless he shows his...wait for it..... papers that must not be named!

Oh that&#039;s just priceless.... LOL!!!!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess he may not be able to run for president in AZ unless he shows his&#8230;wait for it&#8230;.. papers that must not be named!</p>
<p>Oh that&#8217;s just priceless&#8230;. LOL!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 03:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;2. CONCEAL, HARBOR OR SHIELD OR ATTEMPT TO CONCEAL, HARBOR OR SHIELD&#160;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;AN ALIEN FROM DETECTION IN ANY PLACE IN THIS STATE, INCLUDING ANY BUILDING OR&#160;&#160;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;ANY MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION, IF THE PERSON KNOWS OR RECKLESSLY DISREGARDS THE&#160;&#160;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;FACT THAT THE ALIEN HAS COME TO, HAS ENTERED OR REMAINS IN THE UNITED STATES&#160;&#160;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;IN VIOLATION OF LAW.&#160;&#160;
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;I hope BO doesn&#039;t ask for a job or a&#160;ride in Arizona.&#160;They would have to check his status and that won&#039;t end well for the person who picks him up. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>2. CONCEAL, HARBOR OR SHIELD OR ATTEMPT TO CONCEAL, HARBOR OR SHIELD&nbsp;</strong><strong></strong>AN ALIEN FROM DETECTION IN ANY PLACE IN THIS STATE, INCLUDING ANY BUILDING OR&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong></strong>ANY MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION, IF THE PERSON KNOWS OR RECKLESSLY DISREGARDS THE&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong></strong>FACT THAT THE ALIEN HAS COME TO, HAS ENTERED OR REMAINS IN THE UNITED STATES&nbsp;&nbsp;<strong></strong>IN VIOLATION OF LAW.&nbsp;&nbsp;<br />
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<strong></strong>I hope BO doesn&#8217;t ask for a job or a&nbsp;ride in Arizona.&nbsp;They would have to check his status and that won&#8217;t end well for the person who picks him up.</p>
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		<title>By: Patience</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 02:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even my Obama-voting husband is against Cap and Trade legislation.&#160;

It seems he and I have switched positions though on the immigration&#160;issue.&#160; I&#160;used to be&#160;undecided/indifferent and he was against&#160;liberal policies,&#160;contending illegals were driving down wages to a ridiculous&#160;level.&#160; Now I agree with his former opinion but he just shrugs his shoulders.&#160;

Call me xenophobic but considering the terrible employment situation in our country, now is not the time to be making it any easier for immigrants -- legal or illegal -- to come here to work.&#160;

Thanks for&#160;bringing this story to our attention Ani.&#160; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even my Obama-voting husband is against Cap and Trade legislation.&nbsp;</p>
<p>It seems he and I have switched positions though on the immigration&nbsp;issue.&nbsp; I&nbsp;used to be&nbsp;undecided/indifferent and he was against&nbsp;liberal policies,&nbsp;contending illegals were driving down wages to a ridiculous&nbsp;level.&nbsp; Now I agree with his former opinion but he just shrugs his shoulders.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Call me xenophobic but considering the terrible employment situation in our country, now is not the time to be making it any easier for immigrants &#8212; legal or illegal &#8212; to come here to work.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Thanks for&nbsp;bringing this story to our attention Ani.&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: AC</title>
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		<dc:creator>AC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 02:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed creeper, Algebra developed way before the advent of Muslim in 622 AD/CE. &#160;The ancient Arabic peoples did make advances but what have the Muslims done. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed creeper, Algebra developed way before the advent of Muslim in 622 AD/CE. &nbsp;The ancient Arabic peoples did make advances but what have the Muslims done.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 02:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;

2. CONCEAL, HARBOR OR SHIELD OR ATTEMPT TO CONCEAL, HARBOR OR SHIELD


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AN ALIEN FROM DETECTION IN ANY PLACE IN THIS STATE, INCLUDING ANY BUILDING OR


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ANY MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION, IF THE PERSON KNOWS OR RECKLESSLY DISREGARDS THE


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FACT THAT THE ALIEN HAS COME TO, HAS ENTERED OR REMAINS IN THE UNITED STATES


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IN VIOLATION OF LAW.

I hope BO doesn&#039;t ask for a ride in that state.
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<p>2. CONCEAL, HARBOR OR SHIELD OR ATTEMPT TO CONCEAL, HARBOR OR SHIELD</p>
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<p>AN ALIEN FROM DETECTION IN ANY PLACE IN THIS STATE, INCLUDING ANY BUILDING OR</p>
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<p>ANY MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION, IF THE PERSON KNOWS OR RECKLESSLY DISREGARDS THE</p>
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<p>FACT THAT THE ALIEN HAS COME TO, HAS ENTERED OR REMAINS IN THE UNITED STATES</p>
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<p>IN VIOLATION OF LAW.</p>
<p>I hope BO doesn&#8217;t ask for a ride in that state.<br />
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		<title>By: creeper</title>
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		<dc:creator>creeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 02:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More lies.&#160; Obama said Muslims developed algebra.&#160; India will be surprised to learn that.

From Wikipedia (with apologies):
While the word &lt;b&gt;algebra&lt;/b&gt; comes from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_language&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Arabic language&lt;/a&gt; and much of its methods from &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_mathematics&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Arabic/Islamic mathematics&lt;/a&gt;, its  roots can be traced to earlier traditions, most notably ancient &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_mathematics&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Indian mathematics&lt;/a&gt;.

This guy couldn&#039;t tell the unvarnished truth if his life depended on it.

Thanks for the link, Hank. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More lies.&nbsp; Obama said Muslims developed algebra.&nbsp; India will be surprised to learn that.</p>
<p>From Wikipedia (with apologies):<br />
While the word <b>algebra</b> comes from the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_language" rel="nofollow">Arabic language</a> and much of its methods from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_mathematics" rel="nofollow">Arabic/Islamic mathematics</a>, its  roots can be traced to earlier traditions, most notably ancient <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_mathematics" rel="nofollow">Indian mathematics</a>.</p>
<p>This guy couldn&#8217;t tell the unvarnished truth if his life depended on it.</p>
<p>Thanks for the link, Hank.</p>
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		<title>By: I'm a Linda too</title>
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		<dc:creator>I'm a Linda too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 02:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Creeper, exactly. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Creeper, exactly.</p>
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		<title>By: creeper</title>
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		<dc:creator>creeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 02:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IaLt, didn&#039;t Bush attempt immigration reform?&#160; If these Dems were so hot-to-trot to &quot;fix&quot; immigration law, where were they then? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IaLt, didn&#8217;t Bush attempt immigration reform?&nbsp; If these Dems were so hot-to-trot to &#8220;fix&#8221; immigration law, where were they then?</p>
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		<title>By: PssttCmere</title>
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		<dc:creator>PssttCmere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 01:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, he would be hard pressed to come up with his birth certificate.... 8-) 


&quot;Say What You Will...It Feels So Good&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, he would be hard pressed to come up with his birth certificate&#8230;. <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8220;Say What You Will&#8230;It Feels So Good&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sassy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sassy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 23:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Senators Grassley and Snow left healthcare negotiations.
Senator Shelby left finance reform negotiations.
Senator Graham left cap and trade negotiations.
There is a pattern here! The democrats are out of control, and it will get much worse with immigration!
They are pulling out all stops before November&#039;s election, for they need to bring out the BO maniacs again! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Senators Grassley and Snow left healthcare negotiations.<br />
Senator Shelby left finance reform negotiations.<br />
Senator Graham left cap and trade negotiations.<br />
There is a pattern here! The democrats are out of control, and it will get much worse with immigration!<br />
They are pulling out all stops before November&#8217;s election, for they need to bring out the BO maniacs again!</p>
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		<title>By: Ferd Berfle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ferd Berfle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 23:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Janet &#160;Nowpollingtano&quot;
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That&#039;s funny, I could have swron her name was Janet Newpolitbureau. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Janet &nbsp;Nowpollingtano&#8221;<br />
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That&#8217;s funny, I could have swron her name was Janet Newpolitbureau.</p>
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		<title>By: John/johnwsmart.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>John/johnwsmart.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 23:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama&#039;s afraid if he shows up in Arizona some cop will ask for his a papers...and he&#039;ll be deported... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama&#8217;s afraid if he shows up in Arizona some cop will ask for his a papers&#8230;and he&#8217;ll be deported&#8230;</p>
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