Thoughts on Obama’s Speech Tonight

I was following a conservative site ‘s onging analyses. They certainly did not se it as you did.more as same ole dems ,same ole. ….

thats the thing – people will see things very differently.Just cant tell .

Speeches don’t impress me, actions do. And Obama’s actions his entire life point to a man who does not belong in ANY elected office let alone President. He directly introduced the legislation in the Illinois State Senate that allowed Rezko to commit his crimes. I will never vote for someone I know is a criminal no matter what party he is in, or how good a speech he gives.

Maybe I’m being biased, but: 1. I thought his delivery was wooden. 2. His policies sounded better when they came out of Hillary’s mouth during the debates.

NoBama. NoWay. NoHow. NotNow. NotEver.

So now he wants to steal adopt Hillary’s platform. The question is why would we go for the pretender when we could have had the genuine article and she was denied her chance. Besides, she could talk about it easily because she had internalized those goals and plans. This guy with his stuttering and no record will still not get my vote.

Yep, no record. But he says FIRST give me the job and then we will see. He seems to have said that with every job he had and bolted from it when karma started to catch up. What will he do in this job after all the lights, cameras, and his chanting minions go away? We already had one like him for the last 8 years. Clinton was a workhorse. McCain seems to be workhorse (only weekends in AZ). At least they won’t be caught off guard or asleep at the switch (remember Katrina?) when that phone rings at 3 am.

Obama isn’t going to win any voters. How is he going to win someone like me who is so opposed to him that I can’t stomach listening to any of it? No. The best he can do is maintain those he has. McCain is the real deal and is gaining voters daily.

Most people see through a fraud before too long. I talk to people all the time who say something is just not right with this guy! They can’t always put their finger on it, but they do not have good feelings about him.

On food stamps when?

He will get a decent bump in the polls from this little remake of Triumph of the Will.i.am. If McCain goes with Pawlenty, he will cut into that lead quite effectively. Obama, in many ways, set himself up with this speech. There are so may ways to attack him on his policy proposals, not to mention that there is still no evidence of his ability to actually achieve anything that he promised so grandiosely.

My husband got a call from the Dems during the speech asking if he’d volunteer for Obama. He told them he not only wasn’t voting for Obama he was leaving the Democratic Party. That upset the lady Dem caller.

I was astounded this evening. The Masterful Orator once again incited his cult into a frenzy of false hope and change.Stop for just one moment and remind yourselves who this man actually is. Obama, is without a doubt, the most brilliant political fraud our nation has ever witnessed, brought to you by Axelrod Productions. I will not forget his associations of radicals and crooks that would have destroyed any other politician in their tracks. I will not forget his blatant racist branding of the two people who fought for civil rights their entire lives(Clintons). I will never forget how he looked into the lens of the camera and lied endlessly about his knowledge of Wrights hate filled sermons, followed by a lecture to all Americans on race unity, when in fact he was the only candidate using race to win votes. The litany of egregious lies, his rise to power by backstabbing his political Mentor, Alice Palmer in Illinois, his non record, pathetic lack of experience. No I will not forget how he gave Hillary the finger to the delight of his flock who watched with glee. His meteoric rise to power was due to dirty politics, lies, corruption and deceptions and that my dear fellow Americans is truly, POLITICS AS USUAL.

I’m going to be honest about the speech: I wasn’t that impressed. As David Brooks noted, it was underwhelming. The Daily Kos set is freaking out over a, I believe, Charles Babbitt AP write-up of the presentation, but I feel that what that piece said, along with what Brooks opined and another female commentator mentioned about the speech being a missed opportunity is how I feel about what I saw tonight.

I was prepared to feel glum tonight, sad because Barack hit a home run and the convention ended on some incredibly high note that would bury McCain and the GOP.

I don’t feel like that in the slightest.

The speech was good, don’t get me wrong, but the best thing about it was Obama’s stage presence and delivery. The text of the speech was not impressive, and it was still far too general to crystallize hope and change.

Additionally, Obama delivered the speech, it seemed, intentionally muted. I guess he wished to avoid the ‘fiery black man’ label or something, but the presentation was far below some of his other oratories. And that made it feel flat, as did the distance which he was from the audience.

I thought he did some laundry list stuff without a lot of details, and also got in some of his pandering to conservative Dems and moderates about needing to have parents around and such. If that sounds similar to what BHO started saying after he felt he wrapped up the primaries, it is. It is a targeted message for middle America.

Overall, the speech was good but not great. I kept feeling at the end of the night that there would be more convention to come, some kind of tie-together for it all, but there was not. It felt incomplete.

Finally, the venue didn’t help. Though there were many cheers, the outdoor location actually blunts the acoustics and detracted from the type of cacophony that would have ensued had the address been indoors.

The speech was good. Many are leaping to praise it, and effusively. Barack will get a bounce from the address.

But it wasn’t enough to seal the deal. It was not a knockout blow. It left you feeling like something was missing. Some passion, or completeness.

As someone who will be supporting McCain, I am happy for that. I was prepared for much worse. Yet after Barack’s last uncontested night tonight (well, kind of; McCain’s new ad is nearing 100,000 hits in like 8 hours or so and people like it a lot), I feel very comfortable with where the GOP is at right now, and excellent about their November chances at the top of the ticket.

I can’t stand to look at Obama let alone watch a speech but it sounds like he actually graced us with a platform.

But as I said up thread, just because he tells us what we want to hear doesn’t mean he isn’t lying his ass off.

I’ll be voting for McCain with no regrets.

I just watched “the speech”. That man is so fake anyone who doesn’t see it has blinders on or is not very astute. He took Hillary’s talking points and made them his own. He was uncomfortable uttering the words because he has no idea what they mean. His delivery was choppy and his words were empty. One thing I can spot is a fake and let me tell you, that man is a fake. He is not seeking office for the better good of our country, he is seeking office for his own selfish gain. He does not have love for our country in his heart.

I have no doubt he will undermine this country. I would never vote for him and no amount of money would ever get me to sell my country out unlike much of the Dem leadership has done.

NOBAMA EVER.

“You obots are the ones in fear.”

Yes, it will be an Extinction Level Event for the O-bots if Obama loses. So they are ______ their pants in worry. The Clintons are 2-1 in Presidential runs with one landslide win. The Repubs are 7-3 with 5 landslides. The anti-Clinton ultra-left Dems are 1-7 with 5 landslide defeats. Can they survive another defeat?

They will have to take their kool-aid intravenously.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! AHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!

You.

Guys.

Are.

Fucked.

i say juan willaims of fox news really is the voice or reason along with greta van susteren, those two are really fair and balanced, i wonder if keith oberman threatened pat buccanan his job, if pat did not say something good, oberman would try to fire him, what a disgrace this msnbc people are

Republican strategy will be simple.

Gas prices and He is not ready to lead.

SusansoundingsuspiciouslyPC.

Out of a forty-five minute acceptance speech, 90% of it has been heard before. It’s what every Democratic candidate promises the working class and the liberal intellectuals. It’s the remaining 10%, that came at the end of the speech that is noteworthy. I’m going to paste it here for your perusing pleasure and then take it apart for my nitpicking pleasure. (I’m a virgo, I can’t help it). It’s long, but it says so much when you read between the lines.

“These are the policies I will pursue. And in the weeks ahead I look forward to debating them with John McCain. But, what I will not do, is suggest the Senator takes his positions for political purposes. Because one of the things that we have to change in our politics is the idea that people cannot disagree without challenging each other’s character and each other’s patriotism. The times are too serious. The stakes are too high for this same partisan play book. So let’s us agree that patriotism has no party. I love this country and so do you and so does John McCain. The men and women who serve in our battlefields maybe democrats and republicans and independents, but they have fought together and bled together and some died together under the same proud flag. They have not served a red American or a blue America, they have served the United States of America. So I’ve got news for you John McCain, we all put our country first. America, our work will not be easy, the challenges we face require tough choices. Democrats as well as Republicans will need to cast off the worn out ideas of politics of the past. For part of what has been lost these past eight years, can’t just be measured by lost wages or bigger trade deficits. But has also been lost is our sense of common purpose. And that’s what we have to restore. We may not agree on abortion, but surely we can agree on reducing the number of unwanted pregnancies in this country.”

[He then goes onto list what else we disagree about: Guns, gay/lesbian rights, immigration].

“But this too is part of America’s promise. The promise of a democracy where we can find the strength and grace to bridge divides and unite in common effort. I know there are those who dismiss such beliefs as happy talk, they claim our insistence on something larger, something firmer and more honest in our public life is just a Trojan horse for higher taxes and the abandonment of traditional values. Because if you don’t have any fresh ideas, you use stale tactics to scare voters. If you don’t have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from. You make a big election about small things. And you know what, it’s worked before. Because it feeds into the cynicism we all have about government. When Washington doesn’t work, all it’s promises seem empty. If your hopes have been dashed again and again, then it’s best to stop hoping and settle for what you already know. I get it. I realize I’m not the likeliest candidate for this office. I don’t fit the typical pedigree. And I haven’t spent my career in the halls of Washington. But I stand before you tonight because all across America something is stirring. What the naysayers don’t understand is this election has never been about me. It’s about you. It’s about you. For eighteen long months you have stood up, one by one and said enough of the politics of the past. You understand that in this election the greatest risk we can take is to try the same old politics with the same old players and expect a different result. You have shown what history teaches us. That in defining moments like this one, the change we need doesn’t come from Washington, change comes to Washington. Change happens, change happens because the American people demand it. They rise up and insist on new ideas and new leadership. And new politics for a new time. America, this is one of those moments. I believe that as hard as it will be, the change we need is coming. Because I’ve seen it. Because I’ve lived it. Because I’ve seen it in Illinois when we provided health care to more children and moved more families from welfare to work. I’ve seen it in Washington when we worked across party lines to open up government and hold lobbyists accountable, to get better care for our veterans and keep nuclear weapons out of the hands of terrorists.”

[Senator Obama mentions MLK and ties him into the speech.]

“As we walk we must make the pledge we will always march ahead. We cannot turn back. America we cannot turn back. Not with so much work to be done. Not with so many children to educate. And so many veterans to care for. Not with an economy to fix. And cities to rebuild and farms to save. Not with so many families to protect and so many lives to mend. America we cannot turn back. We cannot walk alone, at this moment, in this election we must pledge once more to march into the future. Let’s us keep that promise, that American promise. And in the words of scripture, hold firmly, without wavering to the hope we confess. Thank you. God bless you. And God bless the United States of America.”

Let’s start with this:

“”These are the policies I will pursue. And in the weeks ahead I look forward to debating them with John McCain. BUT, what I will not do, is suggest the Senator takes his positions for political purposes. Because one of the things that we have to change in our politics is the idea that people cannot disagree without challenging each other’s character and each other’s patriotism. The times are too serious. The stakes are too high for this same partisan play book. So let’s us agree that patriotism has no party. I love this country and so do you and so does John McCain.”

If Senator McCain tells you my best buddy is William Ayers and he got me all of my jobs, I used my influence to help Rezko with his criminal activities, I have dual citizenship, I belonged to and supported a radical church and Rev. Wright, etc… that doesn’t mean I don’t love America. I’m a patriot. Don’t worry about my ineligibility because of dual citizenship and my association with radicals, it’s just plain silly. I’m as American as John McCain and you.

“The men and women who serve in our battlefields maybe democrats and republicans and independents, but they have fought together and bled together and some died together under the same proud flag. They have not served a red American or a blue America, they have served the United States of America. So I’ve got news for you John McCain, we all put our country first. America, our work will not be easy, the challenges we face require tough choices. Democrats as well as Republicans will need to cast off the worn out ideas of politics of the past.”

If Senator McCain dares to tell the truth about my background, he’s kicking all of our military who are risking their lives in service to this nation. Challenge me and you challenge the patriotism of our military. I’ll make sure of it. Senator McCain will become the former POW who doesn’t think today’s military loves their country.

“For part of what has been lost these past eight years, can’t just be measured by lost wages or bigger trade deficits. But has also been lost is our sense of common purpose. And that’s what we have to restore. We may not agree on abortion, but surely we can agree on reducing the number of unwanted pregnancies in this country.”

If Senator McCain insists on bringing up all that stuff I’m working so hard to keep hidden, I’m going to whine that he’s not working with us to find common goals to work towards on the issues that divide us as a country: abortion, same sex marriage, guns and immigration. When talking about immigration, Senator Obama said: “I don’t know anyone who benefits when a mother is separated from her infant child.” Where did that come from? Did I miss something in the news where a woman was deported without her child? Or is this something that relates to his family background?

“But this too is part of America’s promise. The promise of a democracy where we can find the strength and grace to bridge divides and unite in common effort. I know there are those who dismiss such beliefs as happy talk, they claim our insistence on something larger, something firmer and more honest in our public life is just a Trojan horse for higher taxes and the abandonment of traditional values. Because if you don’t have any fresh ideas, you use stale tactics to scare voters. If you don’t have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from.”

Senator McCain has no new ideas, no record to run on and he’s going to tell you lots of bad things about me to scare you. He’s not going to work with me or you to unite and build a better America. Instead he’s going to tell you I’m a wolf in sheep’s clothing, the enemy hidden in a Trojan horse and that I don’t hold the traditional values of American because I like to hang out with Ayers, Wright and Rezko.

“You make a big election about small things. And you know what, it’s worked before. Because it feeds into the cynicism we all have about government. When Washington doesn’t work, all it’s promises seem empty. If your hopes have been dashed again and again, then it’s best to stop hoping and settle for what you already know. I get it. I realize I’m not the likeliest candidate for this office. I don’t fit the typical pedigree. And I haven’t spent my career in the halls of Washington.”

My background, citizenship, association with radicals and inexperience are small things. Silly things. They’re unimportant. If you listen to the Republicans, you’ll settle for what you have now and your hopes will be dashed forever.

“But I stand before you tonight because all across America something is stirring. What the naysayers don’t understand is this election has never been about me. It’s about you.”

When they say all those things about me, remember this election is about you, not me. It doesn’t matter that my background is questionable and I may be ineligible to be president. What matters is you and you need a leader like me, even if the Constitution doesn’t agree.

“For eighteen long months you have stood up, one by one and said enough of the politics of the past. You understand that in this election the greatest risk we can take is to try the same old politics with the same old players and expect a different result. You have shown what history teaches us. That in defining moments like this one, the change we need doesn’t come from Washington, change comes to Washington. Change happens, change happens because the American people demand it. They rise up and insist on new ideas and new leadership. And new politics for a new time.”

Remember you want me. You don’t care if I have a half dozen citizenships with other nations. You don’t care I used the backs of radicals, domestic terrorists and criminals to further my career from my first job after college to running for president because you understand Washington needs new leadership to come to it. Forget that moldy, old Constitution that requires I have only one citizenship and my professional and personal relationships with people who have harmed America – all it indicates is that I have new ideas for new leadership and policies for a new time.

“America, this is one of those moments. I believe that as hard as it will be, the change we need is coming. Because I’ve seen it. Because I’ve lived it. Because I’ve seen it in Illinois when we provided health care to more children and moved more families from welfare to work. I’ve seen it in Washington when we worked across party lines to open up government and hold lobbyists accountable, to get better care for our veterans and keep nuclear weapons out of the hands of terrorists.”

I’ve seen the change and since I’ve seen it, you can have confidence that your world will be better with me as president. Just forget the part where I was too busy running for office or using my influence to help my friends Rezko and Ayers to have actually worked on any of that legislation I’ve seen.

“”As we walk we must make the pledge we will always march ahead. We cannot turn back. America we cannot turn back. Not with so much work to be done. Not with so many children to educate. And so many veterans to care for. Not with an economy to fix. And cities to rebuild and farms to save. Not with so many families to protect and so many lives to mend. America we cannot turn back. We cannot walk alone, at this moment, in this election we must pledge once more to march into the future. Let’s us keep that promise, that American promise. And in the words of scripture, hold firmly, without wavering to the hope we confess. Thank you. God bless you. And God bless the United States of America.”

I’ve been chosen now. You can’t throw me under the bus when my past is revealed. Don’t even think about it. If you take away my candidacy before November 4th or vote for McCain, your children won’t learn to read or go to college, the veterans will lie dying in the streets, you’ll lose your jobs and won’t be able to afford a loaf of bread, the infrastructure of your cities will breakdown, the farms will disappear in a puff of smoke, your families will be threaten by criminals, terrorists and Russians with nuclear weapons and no one is going to help all those people who have already lost their jobs and homes.

I find the last part of Senator Obama’s acceptance speech to be very revealing. He’s afraid. So afraid he’s dodging the attacks before they’ve been thrown at the target. How many candidates have spent several minutes of their nomination acceptance speech in a pre-whine that the other party is going to be mean to them? You should support him because if the Republicans start talking about his citizenship, Ayers, Rezko, Wright, etc., it’s dirty politics even if it’s the truth. He’s saying it doesn’t matter if it is true. You need new leadership and I’m that person because I have dual citizenship, associate with radicals and criminals, etc…

It’s going to be an interesting autumn.

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There are a number of late night clues that Palin will indeed be McCain’s man woman for the VP slot. She chartered a late night jet from Alaska to Ohio during the middle of the night. She has an infant son so it’s not something a mother would do lightly. Many other potential clues in this 600+ message thread.

If Palin is as competent a reformer and executive as many claim she is then Obama is in for a world of hurt starting this morning. However, the DNC made their bed and they’ll have to sleep in it now.

So Obama is finally talking about mainstream Dem’s values. But will he be able to erase everyone’s memories? I mean, are people really going to buy his spew NOW? I wish it was all real.

But I don’t believe anything that comes out of his mouth. He will say whatever he has to. Just like Michelle suddenly loves America and Hillary.

The Obamas are probably secretly steaming because they have “had to” make nice to convince “Whitey”.

I will not forget his hate-monger Uncle Wright and his racist church.

nice, so he lifted another speech this time from Hillary, what a fucking bastard…..

I don’t care what McCain says or doesn’t say next week at the Republican convention. Those 527′s are going to make mincemeat out of Obama and they should. Associations w terrorists, accepting overseas contributions, voter fraud, sitting in a racist, American hating church for 20 years. He’s got very little experience and the experience he does have shows he is not really concerned about any change except what will benefit him. He made sure private developers got a stash of cash in his Chicago district and then never bothered w the poor people in his district to see how things were going. In a way some of this is different. I don’t believe we’ve ever had someone running for President who was friends w a terrorist or sat in a radical, racist, American hating church for 20 years.

It’s too bad because Obama very well may have made a good President one day. All he would have had to do was go down the path of good instead of evil. He chose to cheat, lie and steal his way to success. In the end, no one ever gets away w it. Sooner or later it all catches up to you. It’s plain and simple karma baby. And even affirmative action won’t save you because God doesn’t judge us based on our skin color.

Please get over it…you are all foolish to even think McCain can bring anything to the table. It is not the person in charge, but those who are around him and advise…Compare Biden with Cheney…sorry, I am not an Obamabot – or any of the other critical terms you will come back and accuse me of…I just want to see what direction this Country will take – if you vote for McCain – it is a vote for the wrong track we have been on for 8 years. If you vote for Obama – at least there is a chance that this Country will be revived to its former place in the world…It may get worse – but you could count on that with McCain…
The important challenge is to make sure we have a Democratic super-majority in the Senate. We need to get this Great Country moving.

The fact that a lot of Republicans were shifting from McCain to Hillary when she was in the running – not because they wanted her as President, but because they thought McCain could beat her better than Obama.

And now, with their spoiler out, they’re back to McCain.

“Oh my god, 21% of Hillary supporters won’t vote for Obama!”

Shocker.