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Trying to Make Palin Batshit Crazy

Some good friends on the Democratic side of the ledger have warned me to stand down on Palin because she is a rightwing whacko. I’ve asked for evidence and here is what they are providing. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I will respect my friends on the left regardless, but I don’t think the following constitutes rightwing crazy.

Creationism–My friends wrote me that Palin is a “creationist.” Normally that means someone who does not want evolution taught and insists that the world was created in six days (God rested on the 7th). Here’s what the nut Palin said:

In an interview Thursday, Palin said she meant only to say that discussion of alternative views should be allowed to arise in Alaska classrooms:

“I don’t think there should be a prohibition against debate if it comes up in class. It doesn’t have to be part of the curriculum.”

She added that, if elected, she would not push the state Board of Education to add such creation-based alternatives to the state’s required curriculum.

Damn. What’s wrong with her? She hasn’t used her position as Governor to force her religious views on other Alaskans. Yep, that’s a dangerous rightwinger if you ask me.

Abortion–At the final debate on November 2, 2006 in the Governor’s race in Alaska, the question of abortion came up according to the A.P.:

The candidates were pressed on their stances on abortion, and were even asked what they would do if their own daughters were raped and became pregnant.

Palin said she would support abortion only if the mother’s life was in danger. When it came to her daughter, she said: “I would choose life.”

I suspect Palin’s position is far more conservative than most of Hillary Clinton’s supporters. As Governor she has appointed a man to the judiciary who reportedly favors parental notification or court intervention if a minor seeks an abortion. That said she has not used her office to eliminate abortions or make them more difficult. With respect to her own beliefs she has been consistent.

I have a problem with folks who condemn homosexuals and then engage in the practice. Or those like Jimmy Swaggert, who condemn prostitution but pay to have some lady ride the baloney pony. Or those who condemn abortion but get one when it suits their purpose. You may disagree with Palin on abortion but she is a person of principle. She is not asking others to do what she herself is not willing to do. In terms of Washington’s standards that makes her an “extremist” and kooky. God forbid anyone in Washington would make a promise and actually live by it.

Global Warming–some of my friends insist Palin believes humans do not cause global warming. Well, here’s what the news reports:

During last fall’s political campaign, Gov. Sarah Palin said she remained unconvinced about how much human emissions contribute to current global warming trends. She endorsed the work being undertaken by a new Alaska Climate Impact Assessment Commission created by the Legislature last May, which she said would help provide Alaskans with answers.

But the Legislature steered away from addressing broader causes of global warming and potential solutions when it created the panel.

What’s wrong with her–”unconvinced about how much human emissions” contribute to current global warming trends. So that means she won’t do anything to reduce CO2 emissions. Right? Well, wrong. According to a Green Wire article dated April 12, 2007:

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (R) announced plans this week to find out how the state can reduce its greenhouse gas emissions, through a new subcabinet of top administration officials who will develop policies to combat the effects of climate change that are more pronounced in Alaska than elsewhere in the country.

State Environmental Conservation Commissioner Larry Hartig said Palin exhibited more interest in the issue than she did during her campaign last year, when she said she found evidence of man-made global warming unconvincing. “From my first meeting with her on this topic, I could tell she was interested in it and in the new information that was coming out,” he said.

The subcabinet, which will include the heads of the state Fish and Game, Natural Resources and Commerce departments, will first address a petition that environmental groups filed March 29 seeking to force state industries to report their greenhouse gas emissions.

Palin’s committee may also have to deal with the mindset of last year’s state legislators, who created another climate change commission that is meeting today and Friday to consider warming’s effects on oil and natural gas development, agriculture, engineering and other arenas, in preparation for a report due in January. The commission is not examining causes or solutions, reflecting some legislators’ positions that warming is not human-caused.

I don’t know about you, but the picture that emerges of Sarah Palin based on her record is a pragmatic, principled conservative. She does not strike me as a blind ideologue. Seems to have a lot of commonsense and is not afraid to fight on principle even if it hurts her financially. That is the kind of change we need in Washington. Someone willing to buck the staus quo. As I have said before I do not agree with her on some of the issues. But I am mightily impressed that she exhibits intelligence and reason in taking the positions she does and it comes from her personal conviction about what she believes is right and wrong. I find that refreshing.

So, if you are trying to run a campaign predicated on changing the status quo in Washington, who symbolizes that kind of change–Joe Biden or Sarah Palin. An insider who has spent 36 years in Washington and become wealthy in the process or a mother of five who took on the Republican establishment in her own backyard. Yeah, that’s a hard question.

  • Heretic

    What’s the take on this ‘Baby-Gate’? Did she conceal her daughter’s pregnancy by claiming she was having a baby?

    What’s the take on the whole issue with this group.

  • imustprotest

    Thank you Larry. I know you do not endorse John McCain. But we have to stand up against misogyny again. The Obama supporters and surrogates are at it again and they’ve hit new lows. They are going after issues surrounding Gov. Palin’s beautiful baby boy born with Downs Syndrome. They have crossed a line that should never be crossed. I am deeply offended by these attacks using an innocent baby. Alan Colmes is the most recent offender on his blog. http://www.alan.com. Obviously, knowing absoulutely nothing about what causes Downs Syndrome, he blames Gov. Palin for not going to the hospital fast enough (in his “opinion”) when she was in labor. I kid you not. Scumbag that’s all I have left to say.

  • Fred

    Thank you for the additional detail on her positions.

    No, I don’t feel she is batshit crazy. I think the talking points the extreme left are nervously putting out will actually cause more people to do more research into her positions and come to the same conclusions you have, Larry.

  • http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    it is shocking how quickly they were able to begin the smear machine…

  • Freedom Fighter

    If what Larry says is true, I’d be impressed too. I don’t get that sense from HuffPo or any of the reputable news sources (that excludes FOX and WSJ).

  • Joe Biden’s hair plugs speak out!

    There’s the creationists, and then there’s the Intelligent Design contingent.

    The Intelligent Design belief does not take the Bible literally, e.g. God created the world in six days. From my understanding of the Intelligent Design perspective, it’s something like a Higher Power is involved in the evolution process.

    In either case, Governor Palin has not mandated that either be taught in Alaska schools. To my knowledge, there aren’t any public schools in America that include alternative theories to evolution in their textbooks. And I don’t think the ACLU would ever let it happen.

  • No Obama for me

    Well Heretic,

    Just ask many governors who were at the Republican Governors convention in April who saw firsthand her go into labor and then board a plane and fly back and check into the hospital to give birth.

    I think that answers your question dude.
    You are another stupid asshole.

  • Joe Biden’s hair plugs speak out!

    In a way we should be encouraged by this lowlife type of “reporting”. It means that’s all they got.

  • McKatmoon

    It seems this gossip and rumor is only important on the O campaign site, you might want to check there.

  • http://deleted YES HRC

    I’m impressed with Palin’s straightforward manner about her views. I don’t agree with some of them, but I can see that she has a “uniter” streak a mile wide.

    It’s refreshing after the mess BO, the DNC, and the media have created this year.

    MCCAIN/PALIN ’08

  • Joe Biden’s hair plugs speak out!

    I can see that she has a “uniter” streak a mile wide.

    Which is notable, since OBlockhead can’t even unite his own party.

  • http://www.greensunshine.net jadwiga

    She seems to be one who lives by her principles and in large lets live others to live by theirs. I guess, I can live with that.

  • imustprotest

    Look up at my previous comment. Alan Colmes couldn’t spin the “it’s not her baby” rumor anymore so he turned it into “she didn’t get to the hospital fast enough and the Downs Syndrome is her fault” argument. Unbelieveable!

  • del

    Do we really care if she is raising her young daughter’s child or if she and her husband had this baby naturally?

    Would this affect her ability to be a veep?

  • msindy

    My take is who cares – it’s her business.

  • No Obama for me

    Another thing is she knew when she was 4 months pregnant that her child had downs syndome so delaying going into the hospital to give birth, well I don’t think that theory flies either.

    Dumb shits including Alan Yukko Colmes.

  • buckeye
  • McKatmoon

    Larry, you are an inspiration. I appreciate your candid take on the VP selection of Palin. As a woman I appreciate your personal stand on not endorsing, but the respect you show in that choice is rare.
    Thank you.

  • ObamaTrollsAreIdiots

    Obama/Biden ….. be afraid … very afraid…. of

    Sarah The Barracuda!!!

    You asswipes Obama/Biden you could not change your own diapers much less the diapers of five children. Oh, yeah, there was Biden taking care of his children after his wife died but he remarried soon and right back to the Senate. Did anyone ever suggest HE stay home and take care of his kids himself instead of going back to the Senate.

    The “New Dems” and “Kos Kids” might have gotten away with slamming the best candidate for the Prez who just happened to be a woman but they will not get away with the crap again.

    Fool me once ………

    There has been a giant awakening and you boys Obama/Biden will rue the day ……

    NO OBAMA
    MCCAIN/PALIN 2008
    THE DEM PARTY DIED AND FDR CRIES IN HIS GRAVE
    HILLARY WAS THE ORIGINAL “ONE” OBAMA IS THE “TROPHY WIFE”

  • Fred

    Here you go, pass this link around to everyone wondering:

    PHOTO OF SARAH’S BELLY

    * second photo at podium

  • Ferd McBerfle

    Using reputable and HuffPo in the same sentence is an oxymoron.

  • Freedom Fighter

    Down’s Syndrome is a genetic disorder when the chromosomes don’t separate properly. I doubt going to the hospital would do anything.

  • rorybellows

    Larry. I totally agree with you. She’s not saying she believes in crazy nonsense like intelligent design or denies global warming. She just wants to make sure we cloud the science enough that creationists can make our children stupid and oil companies can ruin the planet. Good work again… dumbass. Stop trying to pretend you’re liberal or independent. You sound like Bill O’Reily. You’re a right wing nut on foreign policy and you’re either too stupid to recognize all the right wing smokescreens on domestic policy or you officially believe them.

  • http://investigatebarackobama.wordpress.com/about/ kat in your hat

    “DailyKos Rumors Debunked: Here is Sarah Palin Pregnancy Photo on Feb. 10th 2008″

    http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/08/30/dailykos-rumors-debunked-here-is-sarah-palin-pregnancy-photo-on-feb-10th-2008/

    In any event, hospital records are sure to be available.

    It’s just a stupid smear.

  • mel

    One simple statement counters any arguement against Palin by the Obamatwats:

    Obama promoted for years Bill Ayers direction for education while sitting in Wrights church of Black Liberation Theology, so ask yourself, a potential VP with views never pressed when able to vs a possible POTUS who has pressed forward on the ideals of a terrorist and a Black Liberation promotor?

  • Freedom Fighter

    Ferdy, I bet 100% of the people here thought just that 8 months ago.

  • mel

    Who is more dangerous to America?

  • McKatmoon

    My God, what is wrong with these people, who would perpetuate such things, honestly I never thought I would see these type of insane accusations.

    You know what, they need to bring the dunking stool back for liars!

  • Joe Biden’s hair plugs speak out!

    She’s not batshit crazy, but her Democrat counterpart looks like he might have taken the Crazy Train to this campaign appearance.

    I’m in love with this clip today, there’s just so much right about it – and also terribly wrong.

    The comments are hilarious. Too bad registration is closed.

  • http://deleted YES HRC

    And won’t be able to now.

    Someone wrote: McCain opened up a can of whupp ass on him Friday.

    Yep.

  • Eidnoreid

    oh, you mean those obama propaganda machines? those aren’t reliable, they’re biased and slanted to obviously favor obama.

  • Anne

    Take care here on this subject, please. Open discussion is always good in classrooms, but I recall being persecuted by teachers in the 60′s for even talking about evolution in book reports based upon Natural History Magazine. This is where the creationists want to tak us back to. Back alley discussions about evolution.

  • Joe Biden’s hair plugs speak out!

    on who?

  • Andrew

    Alan Colmes of Fox News said that it was Palin’s fault her baby has Down Syndrome because she didn’t go to the hospital fast enough. This is totally incorrect because Down Syndrome (Trisomy 21) is genetic and has nothing to do with labor, etc. Another time he claimed she faked her pregnancy. Alan Colmes should be fired for this blatant and and grotesque attack.

  • Ferd McBerfle

    Free-dumby: You need to go back to bot HQ for a tune-up. Your motherboard is fried, all your fans have rusted, and your random access memory is reading all 0s.

    Come back when the repairs are complete.

  • CheatedFLVoter

    If she did cover for her daughter, that would even make me admire her more for loving her daughter that much and committing to raise the child. That would show real courage in her convictions. So whether she did or didn’t is her personal business and has nothing to do with her leadership qualities. As far as I can see this matter is irrelevant and should be dropped. I like her honesty and find nothing whacko about her beliefs. She doesn’t try to force these beliefs on others and seems to strive to be open-minded to what others believe. Thank you Larry, I agree with you totally.

  • Eidnoreid

    not when the obama people are just spewing smears and distortions.

  • Ferd McBerfle

    If these bots actually had some functional knowledge of the English language, they might understand how foolish their posts appear.

  • snowhite

    Thanks for sending me to the pictures of a very pregnant Govorner Palin.I had already heard that her daughter not her was the babys mother.What next?????Coming from Brazil,Axlerod and Obama —-anything.

  • http://deleted YES HRC

    On Obama.

  • msindy

    I may be wrong but I suspect once they win, McCain-Palin will have a moderate administration. I just can’t see them going in there like Bush and saying to hell with the 3/4 of the country who disagrees with him.

  • Joe Biden’s hair plugs speak out!

    Back alley discussions about evolution.

    I know and right after the back alley discussions about evolution we’re all going to have to get back alley abortions. Even if we’re past child rearing age. Just because, well – it’s in a back alley, doncha know and Item 43 on Gov. Palin’s extreme right wing agenda is for all citizens with a uterus to endure back alley abortions.

    Because the bible says so and it’s a punishment from God like Hurricane Gustav.

    Do you people realize that the Creationism Boogeyman and the OH NOES ROE v.WADE boogeyman are going to have as much impact as leveling the RACIST charge?

    people become numb to that crap.

  • imustprotest

    You’re absolutely correct! Now go tell that to Alan Colmes of Hannity and Colmes (if you care to, sorry this has got me so mad as I am the mother of a disabled child and I can’t stand what this “man” has been saying)
    http://www.alan.com

  • Northwest rain

    I was raised in a batshit crazy religious cult — this woman is not batshit crazy religious. She believes in the separation of church and state.

    She is entitled to her religious beliefs — as we are entitled to walk our own religious (or non-religious) path.

    We can look at her actions — because she HAS a legislative and mayoral & gubernatorial record — UNLIKE the non record of Obama-soetoro. AND Barky is trying to win the top spot — whereas Sarah Palin is the VP nominee.

    The Obama team is going to try to knock Palin out — and they are going to throw everything including the kitchen sink at Palin.

    Team Obama is scared to death of Palin because she is the real deal.

    My Republican friends are ecstatic — they absolutely love her, after hearing her speak. She is the real deal they feel.

    Democrats who are speaking against Palin are looking like the donkey’s ass that they are.

    I’ve sent this link to my friends which will be sent to their friends. Comparing Barky and Sarah.

    http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/08/30/sarah-palin-vs-barack-obama/

  • Ferd McBerfle

    As a scientist, my only concern is that belief systems inherent in either creationst “science” (shudder), not be taught in true science classes. These are not scientific theories in that they are not based on the method inherent and fundamental to science which is observation.

    Just my two-cents worth.

  • http://deleted YES HRC

    I agree. They want to repair their party after the Bush regime, kind of like the Dem party will need to do after this year’s fiasco.

  • Joe Biden’s hair plugs speak out!

    OK I understand now – Because of the Palin choice.

    I thought McCain made a statement denouncing the smears against Palin.

  • Anne

    I am embarrassed for the Democratic media representatives and their ingorance. I will use her words to describe colmes…neanderthal.

    She also knew about this condition long before birth, so I suppose she had the assay that is given to older women (36+) that determines several potential birth defects. She chose to carry her baby to term knowing full well his condition.

  • Ferd McBerfle

    See my post above. Science is science; faith is faith.

    Creationism is faith and that’s where it should remain.

  • http://www.latinorepublican.com DD

    Well let’s use Diddy’s logic (sarcasm used)…..

    Diddy think Palin is a bad choice because there are no crackheads in Alaska. Wow. Freaking thugs.

  • http://www.ushistory.org/Declaration/document/index.htm Hillary’sSimplytheBest

    I don’t know about you, but the picture that emerges of Sarah Palin based on her record is a pragmatic, principled conservative. She does not strike me as a blind ideologue. Seems to have a lot of commonsense and is not afraid to fight on principle even if it hurts her financially. That is the kind of change we need in Washington. Someone willing to buck the staus quo. As I have said before I do not agree with her on some of the issues. But I am mightily impressed that she exhibits intelligence and reason in taking the positions she does and it comes from her personal conviction about what she believes is right and wrong. I find that refreshing.

    I agree with you Larry… she’s impressive and I think the Obama supporters are freakin out because they secretly see in her what we see and it scares the hell out of them.

  • Mr.Murder

    Discuss creationism is psych and sociology classes. Other aspects of spirituality and creationism can even be considered within metaphysics.

    There it can follow rather healthy debate.
    No room for it in true science class. We’ve already fallen behind the EU and first world Asian countries in the science realm. We have our hands full just trying to remain competitive there.

  • derridog

    I agree.

  • Hope Floats

    Downes Syndrome is more common among older women giving birth in their 40′s than among teenage girls at the peak of their fertility. I’ve never doubted the baby was Sarah Palin’s. How do you fake that for an entire state?

  • JC
  • Retired

    Which hospital records? Sarah Palin’s or Barack Obama’s? I can see where we might get a look at the hospital records on Sarah Palin’s daughter. Strangely, the hospital records on the birth of Barack Obama don’t seem to be forthcoming? Why?

  • Ferd McBerfle

    I think you may be right. My gut reaction is that JM doesn’t like the neocons very much at all.

  • Ferd McBerfle

    Other aspects of spirituality and creationism can even be considered within metaphysics.

    That’s a good place for them. I concur.

  • Jillie

    it’s a genetic disorder with an extra chromosome. the birth process has nothing to down with down syndrome.

  • Northwest rain

    I think that this is part of the Alaska ethic — and perhaps the west coast ethic. Although some of the urban liberals are getting to be more than I can take. Yes there is a big difference between rural and urban — and Sarah Palin is small town rural — and we are so used to being left out and put down.

    Alaska is also culturally somewhat like an island — with the majority of the population near the coast and cut off and isolated (like an island or peninsula). People learn to get along with different cultures and a wide range of religions.

    Whereas I got the feeling from some of the Obama’s remarks that “their” way is the only right way to think or to live. I find that sort of dogmatic, authoritarian attitude — scary — and not what I want in someone seeking the office of President.

    PUMA –

  • hootnannie

    If the far left were capable of controlling their hysteria over Evangelicals, they wouldn’t go near anything regarding Sarah’s baby. It only reminds people of Obama’s stance on still-living aborted infants. Why are lefties so suddenly all in a tizzy over the choice of Palin? Didn’t they know that McCain is solidly anti-abortion? And doesn’t he, as a Christian, believe in creationism? Even those of us who believe in theistic evolution hold that God Almighty initially did create the world! And anyone who believes that a teacher can’t even discuss creationism in a classroom ought to read more about the positions of the founding fathers and recall that we do have freedom of speech and religion in this land! For most of my life, I’ve been left-wing fiscally, but moderate to conservative culturally. Well, I’ve had it with whoever and whatever Brazile and her ilk are. McCain will undoubtedly win, and anyone he puts on the Court who will reinstate true freedom of worship will be great! I look forward to the day teachers can once again pray in class and place a reindeer-free nativity scene right on their desks!

  • katmandu

    Here’s an account of Ferraro’s positive opinion of Palin, and her refusal to say who she is voting for. http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/08/ferraro-happy-a.html She says she is still in her decisional process, which many Americans are. Since when did it become a sin to carefully consider whom one was voting for? I always thought it was a hallmark of intelligence to think about one’s electoral choices. Even my staunch GOP father admitted that he voted for FDR once.

  • Joe Biden’s hair plugs speak out!

    I agree Ferd.

    The anti-Palin crowd is using Palin’s belief in creationism or whatever as a scare tactic.

    Governor Palin hasn’t forced her beliefs on her constituency in Alaska. Nor do I think the ACLU would let any politician in the Executive or Legislative branch allow it to happen. They are vigilant when it comes to separation of church and state, and AFAIK anytime a school board in a conservative district has attempted to include alternative theories on evolution it has been litigated out of existence.

    Evolution persecution in the 1960s, back alley abortions in the 1960s, those things don’t happen anymore. As a society we’ve…evolved.
    ;-)

  • Ferd McBerfle

    And I do agree with you, as well, that there are truly much more important issues out there. In fact, this one is probably about 3/4 the way down the list of importance.

    The Bush administration just made me quite weary with their anti-science stance on just about everything.

  • McKatmoon

    Don’t they know Biden is Catholic, and more than likely anti-abortion as well?

  • America OUR Land

    I guess when someone is well balanced and knows east from west they’re batshit crazy!!!!!!!

    So what is Barky and his playmates classified as? Dogchit crazy, Insane or shallow minded peons?

    It always ends with lies and diatribes when small minded people like Barky is fearful of a great person.

    colmes…neanderthal>>> very true!!!!!!!!!!!

  • McKatmoon

    You are posting links for, I’m not sure I understand what.

  • McKatmoon

    Not being rude, but if I am going to read about Sarah Palin, I will read on the Governor or VP page, if I want to read about a Supreme Court Decision I will go to the Supreme Court page; not an interpretation of either on talk left.

  • http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com Uppity Woman

    I kind of like the thought that she sold the state plane on ebay.

    How many of these big shots would give up their private plane. I’ll wait for an answer…..

    I saw Ron Paul on TV this morning. He said he was impressed with her.

  • beverly leslie

    Sarah Palin’s father is a science teacher. she said she would be open to creationism being taught alongside evolution. Obarf said the same thing.

  • Mr. X

    He hates them a lot actually and this is why many conservatives weren’t too happy with McCain. Conservatives don’t necessarilly like neo-cons, but they don’t appreciate that McCain dissed his own party’s President. He’s been on Jon Stewart many times calling Bush the biggest idiot ever, though he doesn’t do that around election time for obvious reasons. IOW, McCain doesn’t follow the party line if it doesn’t sit right with him.

    But I’m not too fond of him. I actually dislike him quite a bit and it’s easy to find something negative on him, but the Obots insist on staying in lala land and tell lies like what Larry has described in his article. It’s really fucked up.

    From my POV, people who live in their own bubble and spew lies and hatred are the ones who are batshit crazy.

  • DoroB.

    Seems to have a lot of commonsense and is not afraid to fight on principle even if it hurts her financially. That is the kind of change we need in Washington. Someone willing to buck the staus quo.

    Palin sounds like the kind of person Obama claims to be. Maybe Obama aspires to be like her when he grows up.

  • Peggy Sue

    I can’t believe that the so called, Baby-gate issue, is even being discussed. There are photos of Palin in February, where she’s obviously pregnant. And eye-witness accounts when she hurried home to Alaska to deliver. The fact that a 44-year old woman would conceive and deliver and Downs Syndrome child is not so utterly surprising. The risk goes up with age. And despite the completely stupid remarks of Alan Colmes, Downs Syndrome has nothing to do with prenatal care, either good or bad.

    It would not have been my personal choice to follow through with a pregnancy like this, but Sarah Palin lived up to her stance–she’s pro-life, she chose life.

    She wasn’t a hypocrite and I can respect her personal choice. I also don’t see where she’s trying to push her “personal life” philosophy off on the electorate. I happen to be “pro-choice,” but choice with responsibility. I’m absolutely against “abortion on demand.” Does that make me a whacko? Frankly, I think the vote Obama made on late-term, botched abortions was absolutely disgusting. From all predictions, the Dems will gain a majority in Congress, so that makes a radical shift in Roe vs. Wade nonexistent. Unless, of course, they bend and allow ultra-conservative judges through. And frankly, at this point in time I’m not sure what the Dems could be predicted to do or not do because they’ve already walked all over their own principles. And the Dem leadership in the Senate right now are beyond lame–Pelosi who stated she’s “saving the world” and that her biggest accomplishment has been “stopping all legislation.”

    Yeah, that’s really, really impressive!

    I think we must reach points of compromise between conservative and liberal viewpoints. It’s the radical fringe of both sides that keep all these questions in a constant state of do-or-die battle. I would never want to see “creationism” taught as a viable alternative, equal-in-theory subject alongside evolution. Creationism is not science; it’s faith. But the idea that it cannot be mentioned, uttered, given a paragraph to? Why not? Are we “that” afraid of religious faith?

    What I like about Palin is her commonsense, down-to-earth attitude. She’s very knowledgeable about energy issues, particularly Alaska’s willingness and ability to ease the oil crisis. But she’s also “for” everything else–alternative energy sources, wind, solar, whatever you can throw at the wall. She’s worked and fought with the oil companies. She’s worked on her state’s energy commission and called out corruption {within her own party] when she saw it.

    This sexist line against Sarah Palin will backfire on the Dems. Maybe the Democratic leadership turned a blind eye to the blatant sexism during the primaries. They failed to defend Hillary Clinton and that was unforgiveable for a woman who has worked so hard and so long in the civil right arena.

    That’s not been the case of the Republican leadership since Palin’s veep announcment. As a former Democrat, that earns my respect.

    Who would have thunk it? The Democratic Party, my former party, is committing absolute suicide. And that’s why I’ll vote [as a new Independent] McCain/Palin ’08.

  • bert

    According to today’s blog, Wake Up America, the baby rumor is false.

    “Rumor ran rampant about Sarah Palin, her child Trig and her daughter Bristol. The rumors started with a popular liberal website, Daily KoS, and certain media outlets touched on them.

    The reports focused on pictures of Republican vice presidential running mate, Sarah Palin, showing that she didn’t appear to be pregnant, then the story followed with their “proof” that the baby was her daughter’s, Bristol Palin. They “proved” her daughter had missed time at school and then they produced pictures of her daughter which they claimed showed her to be “pregnant.”

    Specifically the reports focused on the 17 year olds stomach, with the rumor perpetuated by the Daily KoS website and others that reported on the rumors.

    The photo that KoS used and claimed was taken on March 9, 2008, was taken in Wasilla, Alaska in 2006. The photo was taken by Lester, from the Anchorage Daily News. (URL linked above to the Anchorage Daily News photo gallery) KoS then provided photos from 2008 which showed the same type of belly fat. (Hat Tip To TownHall)
    Sarah Palin at home with her family in Wasilla, Alaska in 2006. From left is Piper, 5, husband Todd, Willow, 12, and at right is Bristol, 16. Not pictured is Palin’s son Track, 17. Trig Palin was born in 2008.

    Baby Trig Palin, a Downs Syndrome baby, was born on April 18, 2008.

    No matter how you do the math, there is no way a girl can be pregnant from 2006 to April of 2008” (emphasis mine)

    Link to full article below.

    http://wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/2008/08/risks-of-reporting-rumor-as-news-about.html

  • ObamaTrollsAreIdiots

    UPPITY,

    That would be a dream to get the Ron Paul supporters to support Palin. I would love to see Paul supporters vs. Kos Kids….

    I know … will never happen ….but that would be worth watching.

    Kos has gone beneath the belly of the beast (Axelrod) and slimed his way to the top of the dung heap with the baby crap they are slamming Palin with now.

    The repubs I believe will come to Palin’s defense and fight for her. The “new dems” were the ones behind the treatment of Hillary.

    I pray for a landslide in November.

    JUST SAY NO TO BLACK LIBERATION MARXIST THEOLOGY

    NO OBAMA
    MCCAIN/PALIN 2008
    THE DEMS DIED FDR CRIED IN HIS GRAVE
    OBAMA – THE ULTIMATE “TROPHY WIFE”

  • Heretic

    Hey, it’s a big story and I’m just asking about it.

    And if you look closely enough at the story you will find that her travels were as strange as the claim of BHO’s US citizenship.

    (Hint: After she gave her keynote address, after her water broke, she got on a plain to Alaska, by-passed a state of the art hospital, drove for 45 min to a secondary hospital in a smaller town and gave birth. I’d call that tale as strange as BHO’s birth)

  • Jack

    Those are talking points impelled by fear.

    on one side, there are HuffyPoters who think her choice not to abort is unthinkable. I guess they’re not for choice, really.

    Also, the news must be taken in light of the fact they know about Obama’s audio tape about abortion, and McCain’s ability to use it. Obama sounds cold on it, to say the least.

  • Mandelay

    Sarah’s baby was born.
    Obama, a reptile, was hatched.

  • KC

    Larry nails it again.

    I’ve been doing a lot of reading about Palin too and I noticed something significant. Even though she is a religious conservative, all of her public service has been about fighting corruption and excessive govn spending. She has not used her position to be a zealous advocate for the causes of the religious right, but instead quietly lives a life of principle and sets an example. The more I look, the more I like. She seems more like an independent than a republican.

  • Ferd McBerfle

    That being said, I’ll use the observational approach and take someone I have some knowledge of (McCain) over someone I know absolutely zero about (Oblahblah).

  • nickoury

    chuckles is no stranger to revising his past or assuming the past life of others.

    Check out some history not according to chuckles:

    The Write Stuff?
    Why Biden’s plagiarism shouldn’t be forgotten.
    By David Greenberg

    http://www.slate.com/id/2198543/

    You just can’t make this crap up.

    Or can you?

  • beverly leslie

    Um actually Obot. She has stood up to the oil companies, something Obambi claims to do but has never done. Before you shout at anyone and call them a “dumbass” you should spend some time educating yourself on what you spout.

    As far as the environment: In negotiating with companies in regards to the pipeline:

    Palin justified it this way: “We wanted this in a competitive environment and asked companies what they could offer Alaska. Alaska is going to lay down the law (and) say, ‘If you want to build this line, here is what Alaska must have: protection for the environment, in-state use of resources, jobs for Alaska.”

  • NoBAma

    what is your point? She had a mild water leak that started before she gave the speech, if u want all the details. Then she got on the plain??-plane and went to the right hospital. Not every hospital delivers babies.

  • lute

    Daily Kos has pathetically morphed to the right. They have a diary claiming that Palin’s handicapped child is not even her own.

  • KC

    It also shows he is fucking stupid. Down syndrome is a genetic condition that has NOTHING to do with prenatal care or getting to the hospital quickly. Only a sexist pig would blame the mother for her child’s genetic disease!!!

  • AX10

    Careful Larry, if you are too considerate of Ms. Palin, Obama will never allow you to have Arugula again.

    Seriously, Dailykos and Huffingtonpost, as well as Democraticunderground have become the left wing versions of littlegreenfootballs and freerepublic.
    Randi Rhodes will continue her current track as the left’s equal to Michael Savage.

  • http://undercoverblackman.blogspot.com Undercover Black Man

    [DELETED -- PURE ATTACK COMMENT WITHOUT ANY MERIT. -- ADMINISTRATOR]

  • NoBAma

    I have been reading a lot about Palin in last 2 days. She is not an idealogue, much to the soon to be disdain of the right wingers as soon as they realize it.
    She has certain beliefs but does not use the office or her power to promote them. She follows the constitution and the law. She seems to believe in death penalty only when the murder of children is involved-that is not very right wing. she signed into law partner benefits for gays in Alaska-that is not right wing either.
    Her critics up there believe she is too Liberal!

  • Mandelay

    Please, the sound of your liberal knees continuously jerking is embarrassing, and must be very painful to you. Behave like a decent human being. And, grow up. There’s truth to be found on both sides of the political fence. But be warned, misogyny will not be condoned here or any place where decent people congregate to discuss ideas. Now, put some ben-gay on your jerking knees, there’s a good rorybellows and go read a nice book.

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    That’s all you have left, isn’t it?

  • Heretic

    She was in Texas…water breaks, does not go to the state of the art hospital is Texas. Boards a plan. The plane lands in Seattle (Seattle is not in Alaska), does not go to the state of the art hospital there. Gets on another plane, hours later it lands at Anchorage AK and does NOT go the the state of the art hospital there, min away from the airport that delivers babies. Instead, she gets into a car and drives 45+ min to a small town hospital (Wasilla) and delivers there.

    Strange, No?

  • yttik

    LOL, we should be concerned about science education in school, look at some of these fools trying to tell us that downs syndrome is caused from not going to the hospital fast enough. And young girls can be pregnant for 21 months.

  • beverly leslie

    She is not a creationist, her father was a science teacher. She said she was open to it being taught together with evolution. Ultimately, she would not make the decision anyway, the supreme court would decide such things. A case took place not that long ago in Pa. Dover school board tried to teach intelligent design in the classroom, they were sued and the supreme court decided against the teaching of intelligent design in the classroom. The Justice happened to be an appointee of GWB.

    [This is the decision of the court in the Kitzmiller et al. v Dover Area School District et al. case. Judge John E. Jones III, who was nominated by President George W. Bush, made a very strong ruling against intelligent design. He ruled that it is creationism and is not science. He also ruled that members of Dover’s school board lied under oath to hide their religious motivations

    I think we can safely say the argument that this will ever be implemented in schools is a scare tactic by the obots. It will never happen.

  • Ferd McBerfle

    As a scientist, I agree. But there are more important issues to be dealt with first. The dumbing down of America took generations and it will take a lot of work to undo the damage. It might be better to start with something a little more manageable at first, like the exploding debt.

  • http://undercoverblackman.blogspot.com Undercover Black Man

    What is wrong with these people, who would perpetuate such things?

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    No, she wanted her own doctor and it was her fifth child. My water broke with twins but I didn’t have contractions and since it was my second pregnancy I knew I wasn’t dilating. So I wasn’t in that big of a hurry. Ya know, I’d leave this one alone if I was an Obamabot. You’re pissing off even more women. Unless that is your intention.

  • yttik

    “Palin sounds like the kind of person Obama claims to be”

    You nailed it. And ironically, Palin has managed to do some things even more progressive then Obama is alleged to be. Like signing in equal benefits for gays. Like giving people an energy rebate check to compensate for rising gas prices. Like taking a pay cut and auctioning off the governor’s private jet.

  • Ferd McBerfle

    No.

  • beverly leslie

    Palin supported Ron Paul in the Primary’s. I think she will bring Ron Paul supporters to the ticket.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV9rW25bT5o

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    You’re an idiot.

  • beverly leslie

    I totally agree with your post.

    Sarah Palin on Abortion
    August 30th, 2008 1:57 pm
    When running for Governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin was asked the following question regarding her views on abortion: If Roe v. Wade were overturned and states could once again prohibit abortion, in your view, to what extent should abortion be prohibited in Alaska?

    Under this hypothetical scenario, it would not be up to the governor to unilaterally ban anything. It would be up to the people of Alaska to discuss and decide how we would like our society to reflect our values.

    Her own personal convictions aside, it doesn’t seem like she would impose them on everyone else.

  • Zaggs

    Are the Obama people REALLY this scared of a woman they cannot control? I guess when you don’t have Pelosi paying people off you start the sweat.
    But they have just completely dove into the gutter with Palin. Quite frankly no matter where you are on creationism vs evolution (I’m solidly in the evolution camp) you should NEVER make a policy that a subject should not even be mentioned in schools! We don’t know everything and who draws the line on what will become true later?
    Basically Palin has ideas but doesn’t shove them down peoples throats, isn’t that what people want in government?

  • Ferd McBerfle

    It’s none-yo.

  • http://kid-kidfunkadelic.blogspot.com/ Kid Funkadelic

    She was a Pat Buchanan supporter, a known anti-Semite. You know what they say about birds of a feather.

  • Mandelay

    Well said, Ferd. Speaking of debt, when are we going to start teaching our kids how to handle money, avoid getting into debt, and experiment with the shocking notion of living within your means? And, saving and investing for the future? Wish my generation had learned that early on. We the baby boomers, of the United States, just love that credit card debt and “paying the minimum.”

  • Kevin

    lmfao

  • http://firefox AnnieCarmel

    Ferd: I believe a letter writer made that same succinct point in our local paper…with a complaint about the paper helping sponsor Arianna’s upcoming talk on 9/8 at Monterey Peninsula College. It’s sickening to me that she is given a forum to spew her lies. Who knew she would morph into a greedy, power hungry lefty?

  • http://firefox AnnieCarmel

    but in his case, it was just to pander to the evangelicals.

  • Ferd McBerfle

    Androids are made, not born.

  • KC

    This is a lie.

  • http://mccaindemocrats.wordpress.com/ 30yrdem-not any more

    Colmes is just dirt!

    He is one who is going after the person…he is afraid, she is more experienced than Odrama and he knows it..

  • makeji

    You aren’t a woman, are you? In her own words (paraphrased) she had been in labor 4 times already in her life and knew that the baby wasn’t ready yet.

    How utterly bizarre that you bots are trying to create a scandal when there is none. Down Syndrome or Trisomy 21 occurs most often in women who are over 40 years old. This tends to occur because of the the deterioration of the eggs. All the eggs a woman will ever have are in the ovaries from puberty. Any number of birth defects occur in late pregnancies. Down Syndrome seldom, if ever, occurs in women under twenty.

    It’s time you “get over” this idiocy.

  • Bugs Bunny

    Geez….why didn’t the geniuses at kos snope out the skinny about edward’s baby?
    Palin would not endanger her party by going ahead with her veep candidacy if this had one thread of truth.
    As a lifetime dem who is disgusted with the dnc leadership, she is looking better to me as I learn more about her.

  • makeji

    Oh, puleeze.

  • imustprotest

    Look in the mirror Undercover man. If you can.
    Attacking innocent babies and young women (16yr olds) is the lowest of lows and anyone defending such cr@#! is a scumbag too.

  • Mandelay

    How ironic that some of the Democratic Party’s champions and media outlets, strong backers of “a woman’s right to choose,” are expending so much energy criticizing this particular woman’s choices regarding her pregnancy and her decisions regarding where to give birth. Embarrassing. My lifelong party, what has happened to you? Will you ever be free again?

  • imustprotest

    You’re too kind “ironic” isn’t the word I would use. The DNC the “new” Democrats the Obamacrats the Chicagocrats whatever they are………they’re just scum in my book, misogynistic, baby attackers, special needs children haters..how low can you go.

  • http://firefox AnnieCarmel

    Wow! I was just getting to the part on the interview that Alan describes as “the good stuff” when the thing suddenly disappeared. His page is still there but the video is gone, gone, gone.

  • Ferd McBerfle

    Psst, Kid. Yeah you. Funkadelic was a fun band and you’re not. Just use the word Kid from now on and everyone will leave you alone.

  • Sue

    Those bots are starting to really tick me off – I intend to send a little note to Mr. Colmes also -
    my sister had a baby when she was 38 (already had 2 children prior to that). My niece was born with Downs Syndrome – this is a genetic effect – child is born with an extra chromosome – has nothing to do with prenatal care or lack of it – this extra chromosome comes from the father – leave Palin alone on this – if you can’t get pregnant with a baby you’ve got no reason to open your mouth – you don’t have the right equipment -understand???………..
    Jayzus – this country has been dumbed down – help us all…………………….

  • Mandelay

    The geniuses at Kos gave us the Obama “birth certificate.” I agree with you, she looks and sounds like she’s for real. I saw her “Wall St. Journal” interview on Fox, recorded a few days before she was picked for the veep nomination, and she held me with her interesting discussion of energy dependence and alternative fuels as well as her support of more drilling. I’m open to something new. These practical solutions represent real change. We need an open, honest debate on energy sources and a viable plan to get this thing going. She sounds quite capable and very informed on this critical issue. And Mr. Biden, if energy is not an international issue, I don’t know what is. I want to hear more from Sarah. I want to learn from other voices in this country. “Change” is meaningless unless we’re ready for it.

  • Kevin

    And Louis Farrakhan, you know TUCC’s man of the year, is not an anti-semite?

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    You can’t have it both ways, most Christian Conservatives are staunch Israel supporters. So what is she?

  • dpvegas

    Oh, MEchele is off limits, but a 17 year old teenager isn’t? OMG. I can’t begin to express my outrage, not to mention anger.

    Isn’t Markos brave to attack a teenage girl? When his candidate can’t even prove he was born in the US, and his parents were not legally married, since evidently that wasn’t allowed in Hawaii at the time of his birth (interracial marriage).

    I have two daughters and I find this to be one of the most despicable things I’ve heard. Used to be it was Republicans who offended me. New world, oh what change the Barkster has offered up.

  • bemused

    This is her fifth baby. She’s well aware of what’s going on. Water leaks often happen long before delivery. If you knew anything about pregnancy or women or delivery you would know that the best thing would be for her to be home with her own doctor and obviously she had time.

  • POdVet

    You mean birds of a feather like Obama=Ayers=Rezko?!?

  • WMCB

    No, she did NOT say she was open to it “being taught”. She specifically said that she did not want it as part of the curriculum.

    What she SAID was that when discussing evolution in class, it was okay if students brought it up to include it in the discussion. She lives in a conservative state, and yes, it is GOING to come up from the students themselves. Basically all she said was don’t gag anyone – discuss.

  • Obama Is A Racist and Sexist

    From Farrakhan’s mouth:
    “Do you know some of these satanic Jews have taken over BET?… Everything that we built, they have. The mind of Satan now is running the record industry, movie industry and television. And they make us look like we’re the murders; we look like we’re the gangsters, but we’re punk stuff.”
    “Justifiable Homicide: Black Youth in Peril (Part 3)” speech at Mosque Maryam, 11/11/07

    The church Obama attended for 20-years gave Farrakhan the Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Trumpeter Award saying Farrakhan “truly epitomized greatness.”

  • Heretic

    I’m not talking about the cause of the baby’s birth defects….but the strange story revolving around its birth. Read more closely next time before you fly into a rage.

  • jwrjr

    We know who is “batshit crazy” and it ain’t Sarah Palin.

  • WMCB

    She did not say she was in favor of it being taught. She said she did not want it as part of the curriculum.

    What she said was that it could be discussed. There is no way, in this country, in a conservative state like Alaska, that the issue is not going to come up from the kids themselves. She said fine, then let them discuss it if it does.

    That is not the same thing as saying “it should be taught alongside of.”

  • Anne

    I agree that this is a thing of the past, but it still makes my hair stand up. never again. It came close and keeps reinventing itself. intelligent design was clever packaging of the same folks that came through UT in the 70′s debating creationism. We laughed them off of the floor then, but they are impetuous and unrelenting.

    Here is my fear. A poster on another thread mentioned how this hopey changey phraseology has trickled down to where it is upturning local boards. For some, that may be good, but for those waiting for the opportunity to overtake a school board, who knows? The creationists never sleep. That is why I am against even giving them a foothold.

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Get a set of ovaries, get knocked up, squeeze out five children then you can comment, pigboy.

  • Judy

    I don’t usually vent my anger in a nasty way, but of all the completely stupid and destructive things written and said by the Obots, this was the worst.

    It would have taken a huge conspiracy by the Palin family, the media, and all of those who work with her on a daily basis to cover up a non-pregnancy for Sarah. It doesn’t even make any sense. And, no, I’ll not vote for McCain/Palin, although I do have a good deal of respect for her.

    I think the Obots should keep up the good work. Pretty soon that ditch that they’re in is going to look like the Grand Canyon.

  • John Larson

    Several points to make here.

    1. Trig suffers from something first noticed by British doctor John Langdon Down in 1866. It’s called Down Syndrome and occasionally (but not as frequently) referred to as Down’s Syndrome but it is never Downes Syndrome or Downs Syndrome. And I am certain Sarah has the perspicacity and literacy to spell it correctly. This should also be expected of the erudite members of this forum.

    2. It’s instructive not to follow this silly story but to take note of where it originates. Markos Moulitsas and Daily Kos aren’t democrats – they’re fascists and never hesitate in attempting to smear someone in the interests of “democracy”.

    3. It’s also instructive to note how quickly the misogynistic MSM picked this story up. Were a male political candidate the target of a similar obviously vapid FUD campaign they would never have touched it.

    And that being said: draw your own conclusions.

    4. It’s somewhat surprising to see media sources in Alaska suddenly questioning Sarah after initially being overjoyed at her selection. In this case: follow the money. Sarah’s made a lot of corrupt heads roll and they would like nothing better than to return to the good old times when everything was clouded, no politician could be trusted, and they could line their pockets without interference. So follow the money: find out who owns these Alaskan media companies.

  • http://firefox AnnieCarmel

    Mrs. Palin Goes to Washington.

  • WMCB

    I drove to the next city over when I had my last child (I have four), because that is where my Ob/Gyn whom I adored, did deliveries.

    Get a clue, moron. Women don’t rush off in a panic to the nearest hospital when they go into labor, except in sitcoms. And after four babies, they usually know their own bodies well enough to be able to gauge very accurately how far along in labor they are, and how much time they have.

    Jesus, the ignorance, it burns.

  • jimbo

    There is nothing to discuss about creationism, it is pure religious bullshit based on nothing other than somebody’s make believe world. It has absolutely no place in discussions in any effective school. As far as Palin’s positions based on what she may say, just imagine how cheney positioned himself. I’ve stated that I would not vote for obama, but palin addition has changed that, based purely on her religious positions. Religionists want power, and in my opinion will do or say anything to gain that power. Want proof? Think about the religionists who have stuck their ugly heads into politics, and the effects of that intrusion.

    Larry, please don’t cheerlead for these folks. We all greatly appreciate your efforts, and hope that you continue to try to bust obama regarding ayers and others. But palin’s addition reflects only that repuglies want only to continue extreme conservative practices in governing this country, and I don’t really feel that is in the best interests of the people of this country.

  • http://www.sugarnspice.typepad.com SUGAR

    Gosh, I missed Colmes, that rat faced sonofabitch in action tonight. Hopefully, they will replay it. He’s been getting on my nerves for weeks now. He claims he was a Hillary supporter, but I don’t believe it. Even when the primaries were still thick, he was taking up for BHO at every turn. He’s going to be so nasty towards Palin. Good thing Hannity will only let him go so far.

  • mimi

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha,ha, ha, ha, ha,ha, ha, ha, ha,ha, ha, ha, ha,ha, ha, ha, ha,ha, ha, ha, ha,ha, ha, ha, ha,ha, ha, ha, ha,ha, ha, ha, ha,ha, ha, ha, ha,ha, ha, ha, ha……..

    It’s almost Monday and people are STILL talking about Palin.

    And if it’s not Palin, it’s Gustav.

    Way to kick B0′s ass!!!!!!

  • http://firefox AnnieCarmel

    Particularly because she knew there were different circumstances this time. I would have wanted to be close to my family with my own doctor.

  • Mr. Natural

    Thanks for sending me to the pictures of a very pregnant Govorner Palin.I had already heard that her daughter not her was the babys mother.What next?????

    The explanation is quite simple.

    Apparently Palin’s seventeen year old daughter, although in reality the gestating child’s mother, had herself returned to the womb for a brief sojourne, thus was herself, technically, being carried by Sarah Palin at the time.

    This has been a Moment of Moronic Mendacity, courtesy of Barack Obama, Lord High of the Moon, the Sun, the Stars, the sky, and all the Bullshit Below.

  • jwrjr

    Especially since Obama is going to great lengths to make sure we don’t know anything about him. Its not working, though.

  • John Larson

    But this also points to how they do things like this regardless of the vapid nature of the story. Obviously it couldn’t have been researched properly; but what’s more indicative is no one wanted to – in other words, no one really believed it themselves. They just wanted to FUD. They’re not telling us anything about Sarah but they’re speaking volumes about themselves. The Kos star has fallen. Finally, thank goodness.

  • http://firefox AnnieCarmel

    No.

  • ee

    wrong.

    But hey, don’t let facts interrupt a good hate.

    It was AL GOP that started the rumor.

    Hey larry, what do you think about Palin being one melanoma away from the button?

    Are you one of those shameless hacks that thinks Alaska’a proximity to Russia gives her national security creds?

    LOL.

    After whitey all you had left of your reputation was your national security insight.

    Now that you have bent over and taken one for McPAin by ignoring the security reality of palin being president you have ZERO credibly.

    [THESE KIND OF ATTACKS HAVE NO PLACE HERE. IF YOU WISH TO DISCUSS DIFFERENCES IN OPINION AND POLICY, THAT IS FINE. BUT THESE GRATUITOUS PERSONAL ATTACKS ARE DEPRESSING AND DISGUSTING. YOU ARE ON MODERATION AND SOON TO BE BLACKLISTED IF YOU DON'T KNOCK IT OFF. - ADMINISTRATOR]

  • KC

    That happens to celebrities. Maybe BO can look into recreating some of his speeches for a Vegas show.

  • Ferd McBerfle

    Whatever happened, nosy, it’s none-yo.

  • KC

    Religionists? So now the obots hate religion too? BTW, what church does BO attend?

  • ee

    wtf?

    she wouldn’t be covering because she loved her daughter.

    she would be hiding a political land mine for a fundy pol.

    wow your spin there made me dizzy.

    btw i think it is sarahs

  • Heather

    Downs’ Syndrome babies are about 1000 times more likely with older women than younger ones. I’d say that this alone is good evidence the baby is hers. But I mean, really, isn’t this an easily answered question? Which one of them had the big tummy for the 2-3 months prior to the birth?

    What a tempest in a teapot.

  • Obama Is A Racist and Sexist

    It is socially unacceptable to discriminate against women by words or actions. Just like it is socially unacceptable to discriminate against any other group of people, e.g., children with disabilities, gays, blacks, etc.

  • Kevin

    They’re gonna try something along the lines of she should have known better than to get pregnant at her age.
    Just wait, it’ll be the next piece of mud flying from the kiddies at Kamp Hopechangey

  • http://firefox AnnieCarmel

    “It’s not violent death that terrifies men. It’s honest women.” Opus

  • Ferd McBerfle

    It’s time for ee, the Stuttering alphabet troll show. Today, ee tries his hand at omniscience and fails.

    Come back next post when ee tries to remove a lightbulb from its socket using his lips.

  • KC

    Yeah, it’s strange if you’re a sexist pig.

  • KB

    When a woman has birthed four other children I think it’s save to say she knows how it all goes. If I were her I would have traveled the distance to be in familiar surroundings with the team of doctor/midwive that I’d worked with…not to mention the fact that she had four other children she would have wanted to be close to and share the experience with. How unfortunate if she had not been able to get home and was separated from her family for the birth and recuperation. Sounds like a woman who can keep her wits about her to me. Doesn’t freak when the unexpected happens. Isn’t that a good trait in a VP?

  • vinnie

    How in the hell did her baby become front and center on Palin’s ability to be the VP? Are these barrybots f*ckin’ kidding me? Hello, Barry Soetoro hangs out with Ayers and we’re wondering if she had the baby or not?

  • ohio

    Gee, with my 4th child, I knew what was going on so I stayed home and finished watching a football game before I went to the hospital. And I still had about 5 more hours. How dare Sarah Palin know her body and what labor is. I can’t believe that some people are that ignorant. It has to be those who have no clue about having a baby. McCain/Palin 08

  • Ferd McBerfle

    I think it will be used car sales. He’d talk so much, the potential buyer would pay double just to shut him up.

  • lansing quaker

    Right on, Larry.

    http://stopsmearingsarah.blogspot.com

    Right. Fucking. On.

  • JohninCA

    Will the O team figure out that the Biden selection was a debacle and try something desperate to change the ticket?

  • Fred

    Obama WOULD be on the button from day one.

    Now that you have bent over and taken one for Obama by ignoring the security reality of Obama being president you have ZERO credibly.

  • vinnie

    ee, you’re f*ckin’ nuts. Did you look at the photo above? Unlike Barry’s COlB that has been photoshopped, you can’t fake that belly, big boobs, or weight around the face. Sorry, try another scandal.

  • Fred

    ee,

    You think it’s Sarah’s despite irrefutable proof?

    You must be a complete idiot.

  • Obama Is A Racist and Sexist

    This is just more proof of how sexist the left has become. The allegation sounds like something that would come out of a high school locker room.

    Obama’s Democratic Party: Home of Sexism, Misogynist, Racism and the Glass Ceiling for Women

  • imustprotest

    You mean….Obama…opps I pushed the wrong button and I meant to vote yes, uhh..no…ahuhhh PRESENT…button, what button?

  • Fred

    This has been already addressed as a lie by Daily Kos.

    Please see the links up near the top this post for actual PHOTOS of a very pregnant Sarah Palin.

  • ee

    Obama not only has experience, but he has proved that he takes security seriously by the people he has chosen to bring on board his campaign. Biden is just one.

    McPain on the other hand just punted.

    Larry hung out to dry again and is now expected to even further ruin his credibility.

    Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy. lol

  • Peggy Sue

    I don’t know how many babies you’ve had. I’ve had three and trust me–if you can get home to your own doctor and hospital and family that’s exactly what you’re going to do.

    After four pregnancies, I trust Palin knew how close she was to the delivery of her fifth child–they don’t just fall out. Women actually get a “feel” for their own bodies during pregnancy. And everyone’s different in how quickly or delayed they’ll be in labor.

    The whole discussion is ludicrous!

  • Fred

    Maybe they should get Biden to appear drunk during stump rallies?

    Oh, they already did that! hahaha

  • WMCB

    Jesus Christ on a waffle cone, are you as ignorant about pregnancy as you seem? How fucking OLD are you?

    Women do not go to just ANY doctor or ANY hospital to give birth. They have a doctor. Their doctor. And they have a hospital – the one their doctor uses, the one they have chosen to give birth in.

    Unless it is an emergency, they go to THEIR hospital to be delivered by THEIR doctor. The one who is familiar with them, and has been providing all their pre-natal care.

    I know that you are likely just barely post-adolescent, and have no clue about pregnancy or labor or wimmins bodies and all that very mysterious and scary childbirthness voodoo. Put down the cheetos and educate yourself, bud, because you are looking less informed than a 12-year old right now.

  • Donna Brazile waiting for JC or Fran-arse’s answer

    ee uuuuuuuuuuu!

    I say to you -Pee uuuuuuuuu!

    You stinkin it up in her with that lame arse comment.

    Stop the hate and go back to school where they actually teach you to ANALYZE facts not regurgitate talking points.

    Stop the hate!

  • Andy

    When you have nothing else invent bullshit and though trash around in the hopes of people would forget how poor you are. This is what the Obama camp is doing: exactly what the Reps. did to Bill Clinton. It was despicable then it is despicable now. WEe don’t need this thug behavior in politics: that is NOT the change we want. Obama=Bush III in tactics and smarts.

    NO to Chicago dirty politics in DC.

  • KC

    The woman is tough. This is just another example of her strength.

  • WMCB

    Cheeto boy here knows nothing of pregnant women. They are not usually featured on the intertoobs porn sites.

  • wry

    For what it’s worth, there is a link on this web site to the web site of a rather apolitical group (polartrec) who’s interest seems to be the polar environment.

    A woman writing for the site mentions meeting Palin in the airport in April and noted that she was pregnant. This was written back in April.

  • Andy

    ee:

    Get TFO of here spreading despicable obviously false rumors invented by the reptiles Andrew Sullivan and Markos K. Take your filthy rat behavior and comments elsewhere; eg. the gutter blogs DKos or HuffPo.

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    I swear, lately I’ve had this overwhelming feeling that Barky has been brought to us by the republican party. There can’t possibly be human beings as stupid as ee here. They have got to be part of some right wing plan to hold onto the White House which includes finding the only democrat that can lose in a year we couldn’t possibly lose. And then put some republican plants in positions of influence to guide Barky into making the worst political decisions ever. And then have moles to come here and made dumbass statements to piss us off.

  • Mr. Natural

    She was a Pat Buchanan supporter, a known anti-Semite. You know what they say about birds of a feather.

    Yeah.

    We say all you bots are buttheads.

  • TexasBuckeye

    Does anyone else think that this rumor about Palin’s faux pregnancy seems like an attempt by the Obama trolls to create an intense uproar in reciprocation for the uproar over Obama’s birth certificate?

    Something along the lines of …

    They said that Obama’s birth certificate is fake, so we’ll say that Palin’s pregnancy was fake!”

    and

    Let them spend as much time researching birth records and hospitals in Alaska as they did in Hawaii, Kenya, and Indonesia. Put them on the defensive this time!”

    It’s an intentional distraction.

    (This post is not an attempt to discredit TexasDarlin’s research/investigation. I believe the Kos pictures were fake, but the Obama trolls don’t.)

  • ee

    Dude, you are the third most delusional poster on this site.

    From you that is a compliment.

    Cheers.

  • Andy

    STOP taqlking about it and spreading it. It is obvuously faslse and thi is what the thugs on the left (Andrew Sullivan and Markos K.) want: to distract and smear. Obama hit Palin –not McCain– today for McCain’s positions: he is a wimp.

    IGNORE THE TROLLS with the idiotic baby rumors.

    We still need :

    Obama’s MEDICAL RECORDS
    Obama’s STATE RECORDS
    Obama’s truth about Ayres
    Obama’s truth about his house and Rezko
    Obama’s dual citizenship status if he had dual citizenship at any point in his life.

  • wry

    Guys -its MISOGYNY not MISOGYNIST…just saying.

  • Andy

    It is an invented tempest in the blogs of Sullivan and DKos nowhere else. It is a sexist BS baiting. Please do not bring the trash here. Not biting not interested.

  • Donna Brazile waiting for JC or Fran-arse’s answer

    eee
    what the s Fu
    Fran-arse
    Freedom finger
    J Ceeeeeeeee
    Ash-wipe
    under the cover
    teenie weeniee Kelvinie

    are abominations and not worthy of reasoned discourse.

  • Pink Panther

    Strawberry,
    Rove gave advice to obama in the Financial Time in December 2007 and in Newsweek in May 2008.

    Last week, rove bragged how obama took his (Rove’s) advise and won the primary.

    There has also been speculation that the Republicans sent substantial funds to obama early in his campaign as seed money and helped him win the primary.

    http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html

    Also, remember the brazile-rove connection.
    noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/27/the-donna-brazile-karl-rove-connection/

  • Fred

    ee,

    tell us what “experience” Obama has then. Be honest. Just ignore that you’re being paid minimum wage to troll here and tell us from your heart – what is Obama’s security experience?

    Go ahead, we’re waiting.

  • Andy

    NO Palin did NOT say that ever. She said she will NPOT favor putting that in the curriculum but IF a child asks then a discussion about BOTH evolution versus creationsim would be okay (Read Larry J.’s post above; he quotes one interview on the topic–).

  • PamFlorida

    Not genetic-It’s congenital, meaning innate or arising from within the embryo.

  • kyle

    How’s this for a whack job – this moron wants a constitutional ban on abortion! Even in cases of rape and incest! That’s freaking creepy especially now that we know the Downs baby is her 17 y/o daughters child. Obama camp is headed to Alaska to take depositions from the labor/delivery nurses that were there! If true and it looks like it is, she’ll become the laughing stock of the country and have to resign. I CAN”T WAIT!!

  • CJ

    You watch far too much of Desperate Housewives.

  • prabhata

    I’ve been looking at Palin’s positions. I don’t see her dogmatic to the point of legislating on them. Here are some Q. and A. from:

    Anchorage Daily News:

    On creationism:

    • PALIN: “Teach both. You know, don’t be afraid of information. “Healthy debate is so important and it’s so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both. And you know, I say this too as the daughter of a science teacher. Growing up with being so privileged and blessed to be given a lot of information on, on both sides of the subject — creationism and evolution. It’s been a healthy foundation for me. But don’t be afraid of information and let kids debate both sides.”

    http://dwb.adn.com/news/politics/elections/story/8347904p-8243554c.html

    Talk Left (Lexis search from Jeralyn)

    8. Would you introduce – or, if introduced by a legislator, would you support – a bill to adopt the death penalty in Alaska? If yes, which crimes should it apply to?

    If the Legislature were to pass a bill that established a death penalty on adults who murder children, I would sign it.

    6. If Roe v. Wade were overturned and states could once again prohibit abortion, in your view, to what extent should abortion be prohibited in Alaska?

    Under this hypothetical scenario, it would not be up to the governor to unilaterally ban anything. It would be up to the people of Alaska to discuss and decide how we would like our society to reflect our values.

    7. Do you support or oppose the use of public funds for abortion (e.g., paying for abortion, promoting abortion, subsidizing organizations that provide or refer for abortion)?

    I oppose the use of public funds for elective abortions.

    13. This year saw the biggest wartime call-up of Alaska National Guard troops ever. Combined with deployments of active-duty forces, thousands of Alaskans are now serving in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere overseas. What’s your view of the Iraq war, and do you support President Bush’s “war on terror”?

    I support President Bush’s efforts to stop terrorism by taking the fight to the terrorists. In the Iraq war, I would like to see the president develop an exit strategy to get our troops home.

    11. Do you support an increase in state-funded, faith-based initiatives?

    We see an adequate level of funding for faith-based initiatives today.

    24. The state has seen big growth of minority and immigrant populations, specifically Latinos, Southeast Asians, Asians and Pacific Islanders. What sort of outreach has your campaign done in these communities, and what have you learned about what these communities’ specific needs?

    I have reached out to all these communities and asked them to identify their needs. Their response has been for more vocational training, senior assistance, ending gang violence, and more state outreach and communication with their communities. One of the key components of my internal campaign is a diversity task force. I turn to them often.

    http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/8/30/142329/567

  • pm317

    Obama and his supporters are SICK. It is actually scary.

  • Andy

    Careful Larry, if you are too considerate of Ms. Palin, Obama will never allow you to have Arugula again.

    ROFLOL !!! But how about endives?

  • Heretic
  • RalphB

    Personally I hope Kos has to eat a boat load of shit over this. They should be utterly disgraced, along with the DU site which was also pushing this crappy hoax.

  • TexasBuckeye

    See what I mean? (Read my post above.) These trolls are just obsessed with “paying us back” for the grief we caused them over BO’s birth certificate.

  • WMCB

    It is genetic. Congenital only means “present at birth.” Congenital defects may or may not be caused by external factors during pregnancy.

    Downs babies have extra genetic material. It is a genetic disorder, not merely congenital.

  • RalphB

    Please don’t believe a damn thing on TalkLeft. They’ve went batshit crazy in the attacks on Gov Palin.

  • fif

    Thanks for the clarifications on those issues Larry. There is so much garbage flying around fast and furious right now, I wasn’t sure what was reliable and what was hysteria.

  • TexasBuckeye

    Kyle,

    You and the Obama Camp can start some of your research here:

    http://www.newsminer.com/news/2008/apr/22/palins-flight-labor-falls-under-scrutiny/

    Be sure to speak to Caroline Boren, the Alaska Airlines representative, who commented on Palin’s apparent stage of pregnancy during the flight from Texas to Alaska when Palin’s water had broken and she was therefore on her way to Mat-Su Valley Regional Medical Center to deliver the baby.

  • prabhata

    Tucker says that if 52 percent of the voters are women, why aren’t there more women in Congress. I get his point, and I’m going to correct my voting pattern. From this day forward I will not vote for a candidate that is not a woman. That doesn’t mean that I will vote for people like Pelosi, but that the candidate has to win my vote and it must be a woman. This November looks great; I will vote for the ticket with a woman.

  • Obama is a bum

    Obamboozler has experience for what? 20 years sitting in Wright’s church and 20 years as a close friend of Ayers. I’ll buy off on excellent experience for being anti-American. I’m not looking for an anti-American president so I will pass on your radical recommendation.

    The first thing Obama does is pick a drunk to put on his ticket. I can’t blame Biden though, if I got stuck on Obama’s ticket I would probably hit the bottle as well.

  • TeakwoodKite

    Dude? There is that word again.

  • Heretic

    The MSM now has the Baby-Gate story.

    This is the last I will say, or post about the issue:

    http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/08/things-that-mak.html

    I Quote:

    “and the weirdness of the chronology sufficient to rise to the level of good faith questions. “

  • RalphB

    You are a moron.

  • Mr. Natural

    Well, Dude’s an informal address I use once in a while, but I’m sure not that butthead.

  • Obama is a bum

    Team Obama have demonstrated that they bring out the worst in people. Obama reminds me more and more of Jim Jones as time goes on.

  • http://home.comcast.net/~vincep312 VinceP1974

    If I understand ID correctly.. it just says all the stuff was designed by something outside the University.. as opposed to the Univere manifesting it’s laws of nature after the Big Bang.

    Ok.. you’re in third grade.

    Who gives a fuck

    I mean what’s the impact .. are their quantum dyanamic experiments going to go awry?

    We should be lucky they could even read with how poor the schools are.

  • Dr. Kate

    is this france-ASS, the talking mule? got a new name???

    beat it.

  • TeakwoodKite

    UH oh! ff IS “FF” ? Parity check…

  • Mr. Natural

    My take is that most of them are barely out of diapers and they have unresolved mommy issues about that nasty old toilet training.

    Saint Barry has promised them that if they dump all over Sarah Palin that they can go back to diapers – or even better, spend the rest of their lives dumping anywhere, and on anything, they want.

  • Dr. Kate

    no, that is out of their hands now due to the Berg case. He will have to produce the docs himself to the court.

    sure they might be trying payback and think we’re stupid enough to research this. that dog won’t hunt and juvenile boys obviously know nothing about this, so they looks stupid.

    the republicans take care of their own. the obots are in for a rude surprise.

  • Mr. Natural

    i.e., get ‘em talking about anything, and I mean anything – but Saint Obama’s Birth Certificate.

  • For Impartial Journalism

    Here’s the skinny on why the Obamabots are spreading the pregnancy-gate rumors:

    It’s apparently pay-back for Larry Sinclair’s coke and gay sex allegations.

    I am on a political debate list with members of both parties and when questioned why they were spreading and giving creedance to such vile rumors, the gone baby gone kool-aid drinkers responded that Republicans and PUMAs had spread the Sinclair rumors and “ha, ha, now you know how it feels”.

    Oh, boy, the Obamabots have the mental maturity of 15 year olds.

  • Mr. Natural

    and all the missing details of Obama’s legend.

  • Dr. Kate

    yawn. another waste of money.

    this is not a distraction idiot. you should be up in the polls by 15 points right now. you got no bounce.

    and no one is talking about your boy. Attention is elsewhere.

    poor little desperate troll. lol.

  • Mr. Natural

    In a way we should be encouraged by this lowlife type of “reporting”. It means that’s all they got.

    Unfortunately, sometimes that’s all it takes.

  • TeakwoodKite

    metaphysics;

    To bad they don’t teach this in high school.

  • Marble68

    Uhm, she’s breast feeding isn’t she?

  • Mr. Natural

    There are 1.6 billion Chinese and they don’t believe any of this nonsense. They are racing ahead and even surpassing us on some fronts. They have erected no faith-based impediments, social or legal, to stem cell research, genetic engineering, nanotechnology or a host of other highways into the future, many of which in the United States are subject to intrusive government oversight and restriction.

  • For Impartial Journalism

    I’ve already heard it so it’s out there, Kevin.

    Wonder how all these over 40 Hollywood Bambi-lovers that are having babies are able to justify slamming Palin for “taking a risk”. Oh, whoops, I forgot. They are the 90% who would get rid of a Down’s Syndrome “fetus”.

    And I don’t need any reply – I have spent the last 20 years as caregiver to my Down’s Syndrome sister-in-law so I have a pretty good idea of what is entailed with that.

    God help us all!

  • TeakwoodKite

    Maybe Obama aspires to be like her when he grows up.

    Not gonna happen on the Island of Neverland.

    Hook – I believe in fairies
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXfUz4icoSc&feature=related

  • ritamary

    We might have guessed what would happen with Arianna since she was a greedy, power hungry righty when she was married to Michael Huffington. Don’t you remember her husband’s run for governor? (I must confess I was a daily reader of Obamington Post up until a few months ago.)

  • TeakwoodKite

    What strange stories? That she had a child? That what happens IGIT! She did not give birth to an Alien for christo’s sake!

    Scullllllyyy!

  • Mr. Natural

    Oh, boy, the Obamabots have the mental maturity of 15 year olds.

    They spew this stuff as if what happens to the people involved, to us, and to our country, are of no more importance than the outcome of a video game.

  • Obama is a bum

    Do you really want to play that game with all of the radical lunatics Obama has embraced? You may want to try and think before you type. Actually, if you were capable of thought you would not be supporting Obama.

  • http://lesstalkmoreactivism.blogspot.com/ whoframedrudy

    They were also pushing these smears against Palin’s babies on Al Gore’s website current.tv. (Note, Gore doesn’t control the content, it gets voted up by the community like Kos.) The pathology, the sick hatred of women from the mainstream left is disgusting.

    This is sickness on the level of ‘AIDS Cures Fags’, which you will hear from Fred Phelps, but you’d never hear anything that sick from Hannity. Hannity is no friend of gays but Hannity calls the Phelps ‘nuts, cruel, malicious, mind-numbing.’ I’d use all those words to describe the misogyny of Colmes and Daily Kos. Alan Colmes and Daily Kos are as sick as Fred Phelps.

  • Obama is a bum

    I’m talking about the strange story concerning your birth since you came out of a pod.

  • ritamary

    She probably wanted to give birth at the hospital that had all her prenatal records and the doctor she was familiar with. Obviously you are male and know nothing about childbirth. Just because her water broke does not mean she would go into labor.

  • Buzz Latte

    Give me an Alaskan or someone from the Pacific NW in a survival situation any day. Jesus, just getting through an Alaskan winter or an Eastern Washington one for that matter, is not for the Obama faint of hearts!!

    Obama would be whining over his missing arugula while everone else would be gathering firewood to build the fire or solve the problem.

    Sarah stood up against some Alaskan State Troopers? That’s shear guts.
    Obama held his hand out to Chicago thugs? That’s criminal.

  • Obama is a bum

    They have not even figured out that the Obama selection was a debacle.

  • Obama is a bum

    You came out of a pod and should have been burned to death instead of hatched.

  • Pink Panther

    Dr. Kate, you are correct, the Republicans take care of their own.

    The obots are children. Hillary was protecting the Democratic Party and didn’t participate in a full frontal assault. The GOP will not hold back.

  • Tony Stark

    Alan Colmes just handed the GOP even more female voters with his idiotic statements. The harder Mr. Soetoro’s supporters push this lie, the harder he is going to fall in November.

  • tish

    yep, obamas change politics are no different then his vp pick old 36 yrs, of the same tactics, except obama uses others to speek what he thinks, they are desparate to tear anyone apart that isnt in the tank for obama. you will be next, oh thats right most people on here already have had a taste of their tactics, chicago thug style.
    Palin is not alone in thinking that people are not causing the earth to warm, since 30 thousand scientists agree with her, and say the earth is actually cooling, including the owner of the weather channel, but that is al gores farce, to fool everyone into sending him subs for his projects, while he uses the same energy as 232 families do in one month, and flys on his plane to other countries telling them america is messing up the planet what a hero! not to mention his thinking that the death to our pets from the pet food was funny, yeah gore real funny, so how much does gore and his pals make off this carbon tax, ehtanol, which by the way causes famine, and modern slavery in brazil..25 gals of ethanol feeds a family in africa for a year., but he needs his pockets filled more, not to mention it isnt any cleaner and isnt any cheaper , and takes away from the food supply thereby making the cost of food rise..whos the nut?

  • Tony Stark

    You forgot to include Obama’s mentor Frank Marshall Davis, the communist, bisexual pedophilic pornographer.

  • tish

    no they do not know what causes down , but i do, you are at a high risk due to your age, or your spouses, but they think they can spread lies, and I sure hope she comes out and puts them in there place…hes in love with an adultering druggy, bi, and has to bash anything decent..pigs

  • Indyvoter

    Colmes – for anyone to have obtained his age and stature to exhibit such ignorance and poor judgment is incredible. Does he have a brain or has he given it up in an effort to be a Bot?

  • http://ridgeliner7.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/andrea-mitchell-only-hillarys-uneducated-voters-will-vote-for-sarah-palin/ View From The Ridge

    Andrea Mitchell: Only Hillary’s Uneducated Voters will Vote For Sarah Palin

    But the most outrageous analysis came from Mitchell who said that only uneducated, female voters will be drawn to Sarah Palin, not those smart, college educated ones. After Brokaw asked Mitchell what this Palin pick means for Hillary voters, we find th…

  • http://ridgeliner7.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/bidens-son-being-hidden-jail-in-his-future/ View From The Ridge

    Biden’s Son Being Hidden, Jail In His Future

    A son and a brother of Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D-Del.), Democratic Vice-Presidential candidate, are accused in two lawsuits of defrauding a former business partner and an investor of millions of dollars in a suspect hedge fund deal that went sour, c…

  • http://ridgeliner7.wordpress.com/2008/08/29/obama-responses-to-palin-why-so-mean-petty/ View From The Ridge

    Obama Responses To Palin: Why So Mean & Petty?

    There is something pretty telling in Obama’s response, the responses of his surrogates and staff, (shown below) isn’t there? Is this the “new politics” they speak of? Is this the “change we need”?
    Do they really th…

  • Snickers

    Where’s Barry’s birth certificate? Is Barry really qualified to be POTUS? This is obviously a RED HERRING. Who cares if the baby is Sarah’s or her daughter’s. She’s raising it and taking responsibility. NOW WHERE’S BARRY’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE?

  • vi

    Nobama ever, McCAin Palin 2008

  • roseeriter

    Don’t forget Obama is the PACIFIER…suck..suck..

  • roseeriter

    Keep an eye on Obama’s body language with Biden and his wife..The prolonged kiss, the knee touching when Obama and Biden sit beside each other.

    Jim Jones screwed most of his male followers for ‘love’ and control purposes. Prisoners use sex for territory control. Ayers screwed all his gang members men and women..

    Women, we know all about the role sex ‘abuse’ plays in everyday life to maintain control.

    Pay Attention to the body language. Words are just words. Actions speak louder than words.

  • roseeriter

    Once we see bot zz we’ll know we’re near the end of the roster.

  • moi61537

    Yes, Mr. O. takes security seriously but alas not ours. He’s selected advisers who thought Khomeni was a saint rather than an Islamic mystic bent on bringing about the apocalypse. Ask the Iranian families whose children were sent into the mine fields during the Iraq-Iran war. Mr. O. will protect, talk to and excuse the Iranians, Hamas, Hezbollah, Palestinians and other folks like that guy that lives in his neighborhood (“Ayers”) but he won’t take the security of the United States and all its citizens seriously.

  • Perry Logan

    The Republicans should make misogyny a central issue of the campaign.

    The Democrats will have no response to the charges, and Hillary’s effectiveness as a campaigner for Obama would be completely nullified. Checkmate, Democrats.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu4IFSGIUFU

  • joe

    I’m surprised you didn’t get a response. :)

  • Lynn

    Isn’t it amazing that when Hillary ran all the Obama bots were saying that they weren’t against women, just against THAT woman. Now they’re against THIS woman. Really shows them up for the liars they are.

  • Kal

    Colmes is a repub-run faux dem, designed to make all dems look ridiculous.

  • Ferd McBerfle

    That’s rather redundant since the Democrats are doing a stellar job all by themselves and don’t need any more help.

  • Hmm

    Kos Picture

    I’m convinced it would annoy Markos to have his picture put up all over. He used to hide behind a curtain-in public-if I’m recalling an interview with him correctly.

    http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://blog.wired.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/05/08/markos_head_square.jpg&imgrefurl=http://blog.wired.com/business/2007/05/controlled_chao.html&h=250&w=250&sz=51&hl=en&start=7&usg=__fF04WPA8ZCrOCw5xEbujTPcuo_A=&tbnid=mSFeBJ3ZfyIk3M:&tbnh=111&tbnw=111&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmarkos%2Bkos%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG

    It just strikes me that he was a coward then and still is today.

  • No Obama for me

    Del,

    We care because it is a total lie. She was at a Governors conference back in April when she went into labor and many people witnessed it.

    You and others like you are just plain stupid.

    She knew her baby was going to be born with downes syndrome when she was 4 months pregnant but did the “right” thing and delivered the little boy. He is a doll and they all adore him.
    Shame on you, you dirty person. How does God let people like you be born or live. You and others like you are satanic.

  • Elle

    You mean all 143 days of experience? :-)

  • ned bulous

    Nobody who was a Hillary supporter can seriously think about voting for McCain-Palin! C’mon, it’s bigger than the abortion issue (though that’s pretty big considering that it has been 5-4 decision recently and 3 more Justices are set to retire). . . but look at Hillary’s top concerns:

    1) Universal Health Care for all Americans

    Obama’s plan is ALMOST identical to Clinton’s. The McCain-Palin “plan” is the same as the Bush “plan”. . . the status quo.

    2) Children’s Health Insurance (she was one of the forces behind S-CHIP

    McCain-Palin are AGAINST S-CHIP expansion, Obama-Biden are FOR S-CHIP expansion

    3) End to the “Cowboy Diplomacy” of GW Bush

    McCain is out there threatening Russia, Iran, and promising “more wars”. . . Obama wants to return to Clinton and George HW Bush Diplomacy and Cooperation with our allies

    4) End the power grab by GOP Executive Branch

    McCain supports the Bush administration overreaching power grab. Clinton and Obama do not

    5) Education

    McCain-Palin want school vouchers, teaching Creationism in science classes, a continuation of the Bush policies, etc. Clinton-Obama want more teachers with higher salaries, increased accountability and the return of SCIENCE to our public education system

    6) Women’s rights

    Not only abortion rights, but also Equal Pay for Equal Work, amongst MANY other women’s issues.

    Again, if you were a Clinton supporter, but refuse to vote for Obama out of spite. . . well, then you were never concerned about the issues that Sen. Clinton holds dear and has been working for all her life. Senator Clinton’s BIGGEST issue this campaign has been health care and I’m SURE that she would be put in charge of helping to write such legislation under an Obama administration. . .

    Does anyone think a McCain-Palin administration would help Americans get Universal Health Care?

    Further, Palin called Clinton a ‘whiner’ during the primary campaign and has now been booed when bringing up Clinton’s accomplishments. Is the mere fact that she’s a woman enough to get your votes even though she disagrees with Sen. Clinton on EVERYTHING?

  • typewriterstreaming

    Thank you once again Larry. This was really valuable info especially about the distortions concerning Palin’s environmental stands. I have been so disgusted by the New Dem party that I was going to hold my nose and vote McCain. With the addition of Gov. Palin I am now thrilled to vote for this ticket. I’ve even donated- something I had no intention of doing previous. While I don’t agree with a number of their conservative positions, I am over all enthused by the possibility of real change coming to Washington. This Lady seems to take no crap – and really gets stuff done. She brings a genuine humility and a servants attitude to the ticket. The pain I felt watching the Democrats crap all over democracy at the Convention has been replaced by enthusiasm for McCain Palin. I, a die hard Democrat voting Republican! – I would have never, ever thought this possible. Thanks again for keeping on top of the distortions and providing us with fair information

  • ned bulous

    So, if you are trying to run a campaign predicated on changing the status quo in Washington, who symbolizes that kind of change–Joe Biden or Sarah Palin. An insider who has spent 36 years in Washington and become wealthy in the process or a mother of five who took on the Republican establishment in her own backyard. Yeah, that’s a hard question.

    Not a hard question.

    “Change” would be defined as difference policies than the Bush administration. . . Biden has a DRASTICALLY different idea of where this country should be headed than Bush, Palin does not.

    Why don’t we ask McCain-Palin what they would ‘change’ about Bush’s economic/foreign policies. What specifically the Bush administration policies have done to harm this nation? I’d be interested to hear what kind of “change” they would bring.

    Then let’s ask Obama/Biden if THEY would change the economic and foreign policies of the Bush administration.

    Which do you think would offer REAL change?

  • ned bulous

    PS Your question, Larry, is BOGUS in the first place. Senator Clinton has been a part of Washington for years, but she would ALSO have been a CHANGE from the Bush administration. In fact, I was an Obama supporter but I KNEW that both Clinton and Obama would bring a CHANGE to Washington!

  • Kate

    I truthfully cannot understand anyone who supported Hillary so strongly being for Palin at all. She is very, very conservative.

    I am still wondering who you are and what you did with Larry.

  • Tuppence 411

    Let’s not forget the very FIRST smears that originated after the announcement. Asshole Obots were actually condemning her for not aborting a child with special needs. My God, help us! Not only do they want a perfect union, they obviously want it populated only with “perfect” people. Disabled need not apply to the Obama Nation.

  • http://www.lpsg.org/100870-mccain-picks-palin-vp-lol-15.html#post1686837 McCain picks Palin? as VP? LOL – Page 15

    [...] outright despise Obama…and are openly supporting Palin, even to the point of countering Obama. Trying to Make Palin Batshit Crazy : NO QUARTER I would say nothing about Obama’s coronation is assured… thusly the tremendous amount of anger, [...]

  • http://www.nextgenerationcorp.com/nextgenblog/ AdrianS

    Republicans got the Honorable Governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin, to join the ticket by assuring her that it’s open season on all Obamoose around.

  • Irish1139

    You people are so stupid to believe that her daughter had the child. Do you really believe she would run for VP if something like this was in her background. She is an acting governor and seen by thousands of people everyday. There are pictures of her in the Alaska papers. There are pictures showing her with her family and she is pregnant. How would a person get away with this act when she is in the public arena everday.

    Get a grip people. You are all nuts who would believe something like that.

  • M

    Interesting that Palin said in regard to her daughters pregnancy and the possibility of termintating it (QUOTE) – “I WOULD CHOOSE LIFE.” Nice that she is 1.) anxious to make the choice for her daughter, and 2.) unwilling to let anyone else make their own choice.
    M

  • http://www.lpsg.org/100870-mccain-picks-palin-vp-lol-16.html#post1687146 McCain picks Palin? as VP? LOL – Page 16

    [...] [...]

  • http://www.despair.com/changewinds.html Smilin’ Jim

    “I suspect Palin’s position is far more conservative than most of Hillary Clinton’s supporters”

    Oh you silver-tongued Devil, that is a slicing shaft of irony.

    It is also the reason that the maggot finally gagged: I’m back to voting for that son of a bitch Obama as the least worst choice. At least he is our son of a bitch.

    The nouveau Schlafley just a heartbeat away from another Scalia or Thomas on the court is my raison d’etre.

    But go your own way. It’s a free country until January.

  • Piet Visser

    I’m a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight…..

    If your name is Barack you’re a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.
    Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you’re a maverick.

    Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.
    Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you’re well
    grounded.

    If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the
    first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter
    registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a
    Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing
    a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate’s
    Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States
    Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills
    and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and
    Veteran’s Affairs committees, you don’t have any real leadership experience.
    If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city
    council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20
    months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you’re
    qualified to become the country’s second highest ranking executive.

    If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while
    raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you’re not a
    real Christian.
    If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your
    disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you’re a good Christian.

    If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including
    the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.
    If , while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no
    other option in sex education in your state’s school system while your unwed
    teen daughter ends up pregnant, you’re very responsible… Never mind
    that you & First Dude eloped because of your own out-of-wedlock pregnancy.

    If your wife is a Harvard graduate laywer who gave up a position in
    a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city
    community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family’s values don’t
    represent America’s.
    If you’re husband is nicknamed “First Dude”, with at least one DWI
    conviction and no college education, who didn’t register to vote until age
    25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska
    from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.

    OK, much clearer now.

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