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Bristol Palin Pregnant

From Reuters:

ST. PAUL (Reuters) – The 17-year-old daughter of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is pregnant, Palin said on Monday in an announcement intended to knock down rumors by liberal bloggers that Palin faked her own pregnancy to cover up for her child.

Bristol Palin, one of Alaska Gov. Palin’s five children with her husband, Todd, is about five months pregnant and is going to keep the child and marry the father, the Palins said in a statement released by the campaign of Republican presidential candidate John McCain.

Bristol Palin made the decision on her own to keep the baby, McCain aides said.

…Senior McCain campaign officials said McCain knew of the daughter’s pregnancy when he selected Palin last week as his vice presidential running mate, deciding that it did not disqualify the 44-year-old governor in any way.

In my opinion this is the most stunning news of the campaign so far. A conservative candidate (yes, McCain IS conservative, no matter what Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh think) chooses an unknown woman governor to be his running mate in a move to appeal to the skeptical conservative base, knowing that the governor’s unmarried teenage daughter is pregnant.

The man has brass balls.

I’m literally speechless, so please register your thoughts below.

  • HARP

    God Bless Them.

  • http://noquarterusa.net/ SusanUnPC

    i was just going to post McCain’s official statement to the media… it is amazing and speaks volumes about ALL concerned:

    STATEMENT FROM SARAH AND TODD PALIN

    For Immediate Release

    Contact: Press Office

    Monday, September 1, 2008

    703-650-5550

    ARLINGTON, VA — Today, Sarah and Todd Palin issued the following statement regarding today’s Reuters story:

    “We have been blessed with five wonderful children who we love with all our heart and mean everything to us. Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned. We’re proud of Bristol’s decision to have her baby and even prouder to become grandparents. As Bristol faces the responsibilities of adulthood, she knows she has our unconditional love and support.

    “Bristol and the young man she will marry are going to realize very quickly the difficulties of raising a child, which is why they will have the love and support of our entire family. We ask the media to respect our daughter and Levi’s privacy as has always been the tradition of children of candidates.”

    ###

  • http://NoteToSelfDontDie.com/members/ gerard McNedich

    i would like to be the first person to congratulate the Palins on their baby news…

    a. hillary
    b. mccain

    america first!

  • HARP

    Well said.

  • Shiloh

    I shuuder to think where the scumbag Obamabots will go with this.

  • McHope

    Brass, indeed. Palin’s family is quintessentially American it seems.

  • gracie

    I like these Palin people. The more the merrier.

  • Ann

    Congrats to the Palin’s..

  • Shiloh

    I suppose we’ll hear that now Palin is leaving not one but two babies behind.

  • CognitiveDissonance

    Now let’s see how liberal the SCLM and the boy blogz really are. I’m suspecting not so much.

  • Right On

    As no one can really say how this will unfold politically, it simply provides more evidence that McCain’s “brass balls” (as you put it) cause him to make rash, untested decisions that may or may not harm institutions such as his party or this country.

  • katmandu

    Well, my grandmother, an ardent Catholic who said the rosary every day, married my grandfather at the age of 16. My first cousin, who has a Master’s Degree, had 3 kids by the time she was 18. (On a scale of 1 to 10, she was about a 9.8)

    Now if they wanted to cover this up, the Palins could have gotten the morning after pill, or the RU486 pill, and nobody would have been the wiser. But they believe abortion is killing (I do not, but it still makes me queasy). Kids do this.

  • Babs

    I think the only people who should feel comfortable commenting on this is those who never had pre-marital sexual relations, or those parents who are absolutely sure that their teenagers have not either. What percentage of the population do you suppose that is?

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    MAC is a man of his convictions

    he told us on that conference call 2 months ago he would place women high in his Adminsitration adn he started by choosing a women for the highest role possible before even getting our votes!!

    and this just makes me want to cry at how much pride I have in him for not letting unfair biases change his decision to choose Palin!!

    BOOYAH BIG MAC!!

    W00T!!!

    MAC/PALIN 08
    HILLARY 12

  • Deb

    The most stunning news of the campaign? Seriously?

    I’d say Rev Wright was a little more stunning to average Americans.

    What’s stunning is the way the leftist blogs smeared this family for 3 days non-stop in an effort to destroy Palin.

    Do you expect an apology from any of them?

    How is it that the VP candidate for the GOP has gotten more scrutiny in 3 days than the Dem POTUS candidate?

  • gracie

    The BO plenty left can’t say anything…Stanley Anne Dunham was pregnant with BO when she was 17 and never legally married to the father.

  • dcmediagirl

    Oh please. How does a pregnant teenager put the country at risk? I thought Democrats were supposed to be open minded and forgiving. I’ve learned a lot in this cycle I’d rather not know. And the self-riteous, judgmental scolds in the Republican party could use some shaking up, as could the ill-mannered, vicious members of what used to be the left wing blogosphere.

  • Paul3triple

    Mac knew the daughter was pregnant. This is going to blow up in the demns and O’s face.
    God bless their family. Her daughter should be left alone. Obama has said his family is off limits. Is it different now that it is a rep.?

    The slime is disgusting. And yes her family to me makes up a portrait of the american family.
    God bless you Bristol.

    We cannot let this happen again. We have to stand strong and take no shit.

  • No Mo, Bo or Stumblin Jo

    Wow. I guess it would have been better to just hide it?

    Desperate.

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    MAC/PALIN 08
    HILLARY 12

    BOOYAH!!

    I was pregnant when I decided to get married and I have a beautiful 19 y/o today, what a joy she is in my life.

    Ohhh a baby shower in the WH!!

    KEWL!!

    Ohh wee babies in the WH is gonna be awesome!!

    okay ready to buy shower gifts now!!

    :0)

  • Objective analysis

    Actually it is not that big of a deal. She is 17. Palin married her husband when she was 24 but they knew each other as high school sweathearts. Under Alaska law like other states, you can marry another person probably when you are 15 or older. It is called emanicipated minor.

    Democrats are making a huge mistake attacking the family.

  • McHope

    Strangely,this draws another parallel to Obama’s ‘biography’.Obama’s own mother was very young and unmarried when he was conceived.

    This also illustrates Obama’s comment on being ‘punished’ with a baby.And I doubt the left wants to encourage the debate over Obama’s support of infanticide.

  • Jack

    That Sarah is not a good enough mindful mother.

    Just like what the rightists would do if it were Obama’s daughter.

    Bad news, though I guess it “humanizes” Palin, gives her a fault, so jealous women might look more kindly on her.

    You don’t need to be a “bot” to see the problem here.

    Another problem is McCain trolls are dominating this board of late.

  • Patrick

    This is stunning news that absolutely solidifies this as a great decision. To hell with whatever anyone says, the McCain picked a winner who stands by her convictions. Please, let us HOPE that the left tries and demonize a 17-year old girl…that will play REAL well in middle America.

    Take care,
    Patrick

  • Clara Barton

    Excellent point, Gracie. Don’t see how the scumbags who started the other smear can touch it. And McCain knows it.

  • kgirl1028

    Well at least they know the baby isn’t Bristols.

  • Mamatx

    Another example that Sarah Palin is the real deal. You might not agree with the family’s decision, but it was made based upon their own convictions–not what was “politically expedient”.

    But I am sure that the same Obamabots who have been telling all who do not fall in line behind THE ONE will make it into something nasty and sinister.

  • Kelley

    ditto

  • kgirl1028

    I did and i still think she rocks. take responsiblity for ones actions is something really lacking in our society

  • Paul3triple

    Obama was birthed by a 17 year old unmarried pregnant women.
    That should be the response to them everytime. If it is so bad then Obama is birth that should have been aborted.
    These poeple are scum. I love the Palins.

  • No Mo, Bo or Stumblin Jo

    Oh, I forgot. The Messiah wouldn’t let his daughters be punished with a baby–certainly not while HE’S running for ruler of the world.

    It’s all about them.

  • KC

    What a stupid observation. Are you saying McCain, who knew about this pregancy, should have kept Sarah off the ticket because of this?

  • pcbedamned

    God forgives. Left-wing moonbats do not.

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    I call Bullshit on you, that is a totally prejudiced view of pregnancy you have there ‘friend’.

    are you one of those neo ‘progressives’ who are anything but?

    yeah likely

    the Evangelicals will have another example of living the belief not just speaking it with Bristol, like MAC did by choosing Sarah.
    MAC and SARAH WALK THE WALK

    Obummer/Biden just talk the talk..

    MAC/PALIN 08

  • http://NoteToSelfDontDie.com/members/ gerard McNedich

    very good point…

    a. hillary
    b. mccain

    america first!

  • margarita

    I’m not voting for 0bama and I can’t vote for McCain but you’re right, the man has brass balls and thank whatever for that. He sure reinforces those maverick credentials with this one.

    ::::making popcorn::::

    lol

  • http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/aug/30/tale-of-the-tape-sarah-palin-vs-barack-obam/ Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    They can’t go very far with it at all.

    How old was stanley when she met got pregnant and supposedly married Barack senior?

    and lets not forget the infamous “I don’t want my daughters punished with a baby” line.

    Or the Born Alive abortion stuff that he killed in the state senate twice.

    Besides as we were told By Obama at saddleback forum, questions about unborn babies are above his pay grade.

  • HARP

    Nice to see the young guy “man up”.

  • Sami

    I heard a documentary on Sarah talking about oil and drilling, and she will definitely make Biden look bad during the debates.

    When America starts discounting a candidate because of something this minor, we are in trouble as a nation.

    Especially since all the detrimental info about Obama hasn’t even begun to be explored yet. Just wait. . . .

  • No Mo, Bo or Stumblin Jo

    I think we should just keep making screen shots of the Obamabots and send them to some 527′s. I’ve never seen bigger hypocrites in my life.

  • tillthen

    It is so great to see how the Palin’s are welcoming their new family member…

    …and what an opportunity for the Obummers to continue to display their low-life character.

    Obama, you are a POS.

  • Right On

    No. The point is that McCain is so cocksure of himself and his instincts that he takes reckless risks — his gambler’s temperament has been well documented. This particular rash decision (picking Palin at the last minute without proper vetting) put his party at risk — which is fine by me, but not so fine to anyone in that party who actually believes the country will suffer if Obama is elected.

    The point is this just confirms a pattern of recklessness. My critique has nothing to do with the Palins. It’s about McCain.

  • AnnaList

    Congrats to the Palins on their expected first grandchild! This is so exciting for them. If this was the first 17 year old in history to become pregnant I would go ooooooh My but hey at least she was 17 and not 12 or 14 the way a lot of kids are now days. Congrats to her daughter for keeping her child as this is a very personal and hard decision to make. Her daughter being pregant in no way effects her ability to run for VP. She is a wonderful addition to this miserable election process. Does this news change my vote? Nope just makes me respect Saraha Palin more as a mother for standing by her daughter. McCain/Palin 08

  • http://NoteToSelfDontDie.com/members/ gerard McNedich

    brilliant post…

    a. hillary
    b. mccain

    america first!

  • http://www.airfarceone.net/antidems/michelle_dumbbell.gif Michelle Obama

    I would rather have a grandmother as VP then a First Lady who forced her children to attend a “god damn AmeriKKKa” church in inner city Chicago.

  • http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/aug/30/tale-of-the-tape-sarah-palin-vs-barack-obam/ Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    One could argue that a teen pregnancy can put the entire nation at risk.

    After all it was the result of a teen pregnancy that we Have the DNC fronting OBAMA as the lead on the ticket.

    On the other hand the very fact that that we Have the DNC fronting OBAMA as the lead on the ticket can also be construed as a very strong argument for pro choice.

  • http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

    Hey Ahole, you can make this statement actually?

    Just like what the rightists would do if it were Obama’s daughter.

    This was Obama’s mother with him, so what you claim is a total denouncement of your candidate you stupid f*ck!

  • Beckley

    I’ve often wondered about this “daughters punished with a baby” comment of Obama’s. Does that mean he sometimes saw his own young mother as being “punished” with him?

  • http://NoteToSelfDontDie.com/members/ gerard McNedich

    your post reflects poorly on you…

    i don’t expect you to understand that… but maybe one day you will grow up and realize how pathetic you were…

    a. hillary
    b. mccain

    america first!

  • margarita

    Yep, what you said!

    The revelation of Wright was stunning and proved 0bama is a racist…not like the fake racism charges against the Clintons and against anyone who isn’t voting for him and his bs marketing plan.

    :::making popcorn:::

  • AF catfish

    How bout that, Wikipedia says you are right about Obama’s mom:

    On August 4, 1961, at age 18, she gave birth to her first child whom she named Barack Hussein Obama II.

  • Buzz Latte

    If the Obots attack anymore on pregnancy issues it will just play up their increasing paranoia and how scared they are that Obama has already lost the election. It will really paint them as misogynistic sexists forever.

    While I am personally pro-choice, I respect personal decisions that others make.

    It doesn’t affect my voting decision. I am crossing the partisan line and voting for McCain/Palin.

    The dems completely destroyed any credibility when they fraudulently selected Obama. He is the worst candidate to ever grace a GE.

  • http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/aug/30/tale-of-the-tape-sarah-palin-vs-barack-obam/ Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    wait what?

    If it wasnt for a teen pregnancy you wouldn’t have an Omessiah to worship.

    Get off the crack.

  • Mickey

    Yes a baby is a gift from GOD and should be seen as a blessing not punishement like Obamaidiot said.

    Congrats to the Palins.

  • http://www.airfarceone.net/antidems/michelle_dumbbell.gif Michelle Obama

    How old was momma Obama? And how many babies’ daddies does Obama’s momma have?

  • McKatmoon

    From one “Nana” to another Gov Palin, congratulations. Here’s to a healthy pregnancy, and healthy baby for Bristol & Levi.

  • dcmediagirl

    For Christ’s sake, THE MCCAIN CAMPAIGN VETTED HER. McCain knew about the pregnant daughter. Clearly he thought this news wasn’t a deal breaker. This is what Democrats are supposed to act like.

  • Buzz Latte

    Good one. How can Obama attack pregnant teen-ager when his own mother was one – with him?!!! LOL

    God I wish Stanley Ann would have used birth control…

  • Larry’shijinxareonwikipedia

    Larry’s recent shenanigans are up on Wikipedia and well sourced. Sniff.

  • http://www.airfarceone.net/antidems/michelle_dumbbell.gif Michelle Obama

    But Democrats are sanctimonious, so sanctimonious they would rather have a Rezko than a pregnant daughter.

  • http://NoteToSelfDontDie.com/members/ gerard McNedich

    or kill their baby…

    a. hillary
    b. mccain

    america first!

  • MPR

    McCain is a Maverick. Palin is a Maverick.

    Both proud Americans.

    God Bless them.

    I hope to God the common sense, good basic gut checks of the American People will prevail over the MSM and lies of this ugly American Bot.

  • Right On

    I have no knowledge of the marriage arrangement between John and Elizabeth Edwards, but since infidelity is a hot-button cultural issue, both of them were irresponsible to their party and the country to run vigorously for president when they both knew about the affair.

    Teen pregnancy is the business of the family — but it’s also a hot-button cultural issue that McCain arrogantly chose to adjudicate on his own, before the story had become public.

    Of course you folks here and the right wing will try to be proud of the decision, but you’re just doing damage control. No one of you would honestly have supported McCain’s pick if you had a chance to weigh in previously about how badly she was vetted.

    Just look at what Scarborough and Buchanan said about Palin BEFORE the pick:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTbsbeY5k5k

  • No Mo, Bo or Stumblin Jo

    I would like to know how many politicians forced their own political ambitions upon their children’s choices.

    I’m either going to have to sell my computer or get a prescription for valium before November!

  • LarryInNoVA

    A shocking revelation, but refreshing in how they handled the news both with their daughter and the media.

    One thing’s for certain: Palin won’t be advocating abstinence-only policy.

  • Newly Independent

    How is it that the VP candidate for the GOP has gotten more scrutiny in 3 days than the Dem POTUS candidate?

    Think about it:

    What else do those bastards in the Obama camp have left but attacks?

    One announcement on Friday single-handedly squashed the four-day moron circus that Axelrod & the DNC put on (with the exceptions of Bill’s & Hillary’s speeches.)

    Sarah Palin has put the fear of God in the hearts of Obamabrats everywhere.

  • just me

    This is just wonderful news !!!

    Bristol will have such awesome love around her and will be blessed with a wonderful bundle of joy born just as her mother Sarah is sworn in as VP to John McCain.

    ~~God Bless America and Bristol Palin~~

  • ginaswo still says no Uhhbama

    blub, I think they’re absolutely great

    gotta tell you, this reaction from conservative GOP parents is a lot better than the one I got from my liberal mom and GOP dad….

    MAC/PALIN 08!!!!

  • Katherine

    Wow…….Well a couple things are true. at least we won’t need to hear her babble on about abstinence since I would bet that is what she and her husband taught their daughter, after all isn’t that what pretty much ALL parents teach. What a mess. Poor kid. I got pregnant in high school a mere 7 years after Roe v Wade and was lucky to have a parent who was level headed enough to understand that a child should not be having a child………Man I feel bad for this girl as I went through this at the same age, and I sincerely hope that media backs off. Listen up ANDREW SULLIVAN and CHEETOS. Just back to my original point. Kids have sex, girls do things they are not comfortable with or ready for nor are boys but their consequences are not quite as dire. This is such an awesome teaching moment for this country, if it is going to be discussed which it will be why can’t we do it in a constructive and mindful way. Just a thought.

  • HARP

    I suppose Obama will say Bristol was punished with God`s greatest gift.

  • thenana2

    Well Governor Palin, trust me you will love being a grandparent, I know I have 23 of the little and not so little ones, and two new greatgrandchildren. You think you smile now, well brave LADY just wait.

    The best to you and your lovely family, you are brave.

  • indy

    Let’s see the lefties try to make something of this—–excuse me, Obama’s mother was a 17 year old single mother. My money is on Bristol for being a more involved mother.

  • ford

    It is always a challenge to find a way to make the situations in life, work.

    The reality of this is a game to many that are not female and have not had to make difficult choices.

    Freedom of choice, that is all we women want. Freedom to wear pantsuits,freedom of religion, freedom to get a great education,freedom to have hobbies of all sorts, freedom to run for office and not have people personally attack the people we love.

    The disclosure of this information illuminates the nasty lefts attacks on Palin and their calls for her to produce a birth certificate for he son, who has Downs. Palin is also being attacked by Alan Combes in a personal way about her prenatal care..

    If she were a man none of this would be an issue.

  • just me

    here here….

    God works in mysterious ways his wonders to perform….

    What a true delight a new baby brings many new blessings!!

  • http://N/A breeze

    Hey, how many months’ pregnant was OZero’s mother
    when she supposedly married his already married
    father?

    And how old was HIS mother at that time?

    IN THOSE DAYS THAT WAS A SCANDAL, for sure!!!

    I well remember…..

  • Nettie

    It makes it all the easier for me to give my vote to McCain, though I have never voted for a republican in my life. Anyone with such an open mind (not to mention courage) is ok in my book.

  • http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/aug/30/tale-of-the-tape-sarah-palin-vs-barack-obam/ Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    The Obama girls are a little young to get pregnant, even by inner city standards.

  • not this time

    You people are INSANE. She is not doing anything that any other parent wouldn’t do (be there for their child). The big deal is that she is Anti-birth control and Anti-sex education. Considering what has happened to her daughter, she should now advocate sex education since abstinence has been proven time and time again, not to work with teens….

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lPCunsrI1Q Woman Voter

    Palin confirms daughter’s pregnancy
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/palin-confirms-daughters-pregnancy-915378.html

    McCain officials said the news of the daughter’s pregnancy was being released to rebut what one aide called “mud-slinging and lies” circulating on liberal blog sites.

    According to these rumors, Sarah Palin had faked a pregnancy and pretended to have given birth in May to her fifth child, a son named Trig who has Down syndrome. The rumor was that Trig was actually Bristol Palin’s child and that Sarah Palin was the grandmother.

    A senior McCain campaign official said the McCain camp was appalled that these rumors had not only been spread around liberal blog sites and partisan Democrats, but also were the subject of heightened interest from mainstream news media.

    “The despicable rumors that have been spread by liberal blogs, some even with Barack Obama’s name in them, is a real anchor around the Democratic ticket, pulling them down in the mud in a way that certainly juxtaposes themselves against their ‘campaign of change,’” a senior aide said.
    …………………………

    Want knews go to the foreign press for answers, our ‘press’ is on vacation…having already called the election several times.

  • roseeriter

    And here are some of those progressive idiots from evil orange and their remarks- And you want these people running the country.
    Obama hasn’t been vetted but just read and weep. I am so ashamed I use to be a regular in that puke pit.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/1/1235/07414/653/582106

    I’m sorry, but if… (2+ / 0-)
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    she can’t govern her home, how is she supposed to govern over 300m American peole.

    by christine20
    Abstinence only… (10+ / 2-)
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    Hidden by:murrayewv, Libertaria
    17 y.o. mothers
    44 y.o. grandmothers

    (White trash? Or is that going too far?)

    Yee haw.

    by irativesfo
    LOLOLOLOL!!! (3+ / 1-)
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    I wonder if they’d have plans to move a trailer into the rose garen if elected. LOL

    For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of a next first lady
    O’biden ’08!

    by second gen
    Really, I mean, had the rumors about Sarah (10+ / 0-)
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    not started, would they have even mentioned it?

    Talk about secrecy. First Sarah about her own, and now her daughter?

    christ.

    A ship adrift in a sea of rhetoric & recycled clichés.

    by Terre on
    Bullshit. (38+ / 0-)
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    Palin’s conduct taking that trip to begin with was indefensible. It goes directly to judgement. I don’t want a person like that in ANY position of responsibility. If she worked under me I would question promoting her to any supervisory or management position.

    “Troll-be-gone…apply directly to the asshole. Troll-be-gone…apply directly to the asshole.”

    by homogenius
    Palin actions (13+ / 0-)
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    after her water broke is irresponsible to the point of deranged. Because it is a clear statement of her decision making abilities, it should be headlined here and everywhere.

    There is nothing sacred about dangerous stupidity from a grown woman in labor. I can’t even slightly understand why it should be secreted.

    by lgcap on
    Actually, Kitty, You are the one who’s disgusting (5+ / 0-)
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    and shaming this site.

    The first Babyswap diary was roundly and correctly criticized as too full of conjecture, meaningless photos, and absurdly biased.

    The dKos reaction to the diary actually made me proud to be here.

    But your continued attempted to emotionally hijack any rational discussion of the Palin family is the real problem here.

    Put a lid on the emotionalism. A socially conservative VP pick with a pregnant underage daughter is significant news that I want to hear analysis and discussion of.

    by husseins da man
    What qualification has ANYONE given (1+ / 0-)
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    for her selection besides her judgement? If my sister did something like that I’d be hesitant to hire her as a babysitter, let alone to run a freakin’ country.

    ——–
    McCrusty: “You kids get off a my lawns!!!!!!!”

    by PBJ Diddy
    Sarah Palin, the gift that keeps on giving… (57+ / 0-)
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    ENOUGH!

    by David Kroning
    yeah and then (3+ / 0-)
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    someone better point out how selfish Palin was knowing that she was putting herself and her family into the spotlight. This is something that would come to light. I disagree with all the CT diaries that were here, but to be fair, this was crap that was out there locally for her. No one here actually made it up in the first place.

    After hearing the plane story (which really did upset me that someone could be that insane and that if she really got permission from her doctor, they should lose their license), I wondered if she was stupid with horrible judgement or cold, selfish and shallow.

    Now I am apt to believe she is all of it

    by housesella
    Exactly how I feel (0+ / 0-)
    I can’t help feeling that it was callous of her family to do this to her. What on earth was her mother thinking accepting the VP slot if her daughter is pregnant? That’s just so unkind toward her daughter.

    Rules are good. Break them.

    by KariQ on
    Yes. (25+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:AaronInSanDiego, Unstable Isotope, SuperMom, mmacdDE, dchill, Vicky, devadatta, tosser, kkjohnson, CParis, highfive, Lovo, AntKat, Boreal Ecologist, silent no more, A Man Called Gloom, danoland, SoCalRefugee, litoralis, notrouble, mhsteacher1, nicweb, BigVegan, robertacker13, pateTX
    Shocking.

    Look, guys, just let this do what it’s going to do in the press. Don’t talk about it. I know Palin is a psycho, but this poor girl doesn’t need the whole country gawking at this.

    “Words ought to be a little wild for they are the assault of thought on the unthinking.” – John Maynard Keynes

    by Drew J Jones
    You are so right (8+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:KLM, CParis, Lashe, Lovo, redding888, kat68, robertacker13, twirling towards freedom
    How awful it is to have a mother like Sarah who would force you onto the political stage at this time of your life.

    But don’t forget that most men without property would rather protect the possibility of becoming rich, than face the reality of being poor. (1776)

    by banjolele on
    And I thought (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:dansac
    she was a fucking idiot for not having an abortion.

    Of course, I don’t work in the MSM /snerk

    Bruce is still God, but Michael Phelps is moving up the rankings.

    by ChurchofBruce
    Not very PC (0+ / 0-)
    but…There is no such thing as a SUPERMOM. There are choices to be made when one chooses to be a parent. Palin seems to have chosen career over her children. I think this could be a reflection of that choice.

    “There must be more to life than having everything” -Maurice Sendak

    by lilypew
    did they leave rev wright alone? (0+ / 0-)
    Or ayers or rezko or whatever else they have made up about Obama? No everyone gets vetted. everyone. I dont care if she is a woman. these are the same people who chastised Jamie spears for getting pregnant? This woman is and was a BAD choice.

    by rajapi
    Does this mean that we get John Edwards back? (0+ / 0-)
    John Edwards was the first voice we have had in the democratic party since, I don’t know, Roosevelt, that spoke to the plight of the poor and the workers of this country. We let the right kick us in the teeth over his girlfriend, just like we did over Clinton, and he did not speak at the convention. I am not excusing his behavior, but that doesn’t mean we should let the republicans knock us down considering that John McCain did exactly the same thing in his first marriage. The Palin thing just shows that this goes on everywhere.

    I am not afraid of the pen, or the scaffold, or the sword. I will tell the truth wherever I please.

    by mundog50

  • Shiloh

    I’m already reading stuff from the disciples of the one that Palin can’t be vp when she has so much famly stuff on her plate. Seems to me JFK had a child while president. Obviously the message that may or not come from team O is that only men can balance career and family. While that would make me puke, I almost hope they do it. It would be like pissing into the wind – hurricane wind.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lPCunsrI1Q Woman Voter

    Oops that was NEWS…

  • Marilyn

    Obama should consider himself lucky that his mother didn’t have an abortion to make her “mistake” go away.

  • yttik

    I think Mccain kept quiet about this knowing full well the rabid members of the new Dem party would blab all over the internet exactly as they did, using words like “retard” and “slut”. I bet McCain has the screen shots. Now McCain can turn around and use this as an example of the lack of character coming from the Obama camp. They’re attacking an innocent disabled baby and a teen age girl. Attacking children for political purposes.

    And Obama thought his wife should be off limits. LOl, that will make a great AD.

    Good work Americablog, Dkos, Andrew Sullivan, etc, etc. With friends like you, Obama doesn’t need any enemies. Please keep “helping” Obama.

  • http://www.governuts.us Agust304

    Congratulations Palin Family. Our daughter delivered to us our first grandchild in April. Get ready for a heart swelling feeling that can’t be compared to anything you have ever felt before.

    I agree with a poster above. After seeing this family for just a few short days I, too, think another Palin on this planet will be a very good thing, indeed.

  • http://NoteToSelfDontDie.com/members/ gerard McNedich

    it boggles the mind how Obama and his thugs proclaim a baby as i liability…

    as if it wasn’t bad enough that they were saying Sarah’s baby was her daughters…

    oh i forgot, Obama is on record saying he would kill his daughter’s babies… or something to that effect?

    a. hillary
    b. mccain

    america first!

  • PhxNickD

    and this is news because?

  • HARP

    Wouldn`t you? lol

  • http://medusa2.wordpress.com MedusaThinksBarkyIsTrash

    I was a teenage mom and didn’t have the support of my parents. It wasn’t easy. I did grow up quickly and my values have been formed out of mothering.

    Thirty-seven years later, my son is an amazing person who brings such pride and joy into my life.

    I admire Todd and Sarah for supporting their daughter. I wish Bristol the best of luck in doing one of the hardest jobs ever.

    If you haven’t carried, borne and raised a child, you have no right to pass judgment or even comment.

    McCain-Palin (because the democratic party is dead)

  • http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

    McCain once again astroturfed Axelrod, and it is great, he kept it mum as it should have been kept all along as it is no ones business, but kuddo’s to McCain for being respectable about it and not using it against Palin.

    The truth of Obama and his surrogates revealed something very important, because Obama’s surrogates are Obama no matter how Obama tries to turn the Alinsky bullshit on people, and he just screwed himself of any credibiliy what so ever.

    We now have been exposed to Obama’s form of change, from dirty politics to sewer slim politics, way to go Obama, you are the saviour of the low lifes in America, you must be so proud!

  • Palinisaterriblemother

    Palin gets the WORST OF MOTHER of the YEAR Award

  • Truudy

    Well it goes to show it happens to the best of familys.This is not something new it happens all the time. I’m glad that they brought it out.It just makes her family normal.

  • ted

    my wife turned 17 in nov, we married in dec. i was 20. this dec, we will celibrate our 30th aniversary. and we just had our 1st grandchild!!! congrats to the palin family. i know the joy you must feel.

  • No Mo, Bo or Stumblin Jo

    YOU are insane. Why is Bristol even a topic? Poor little Michelle Obama can shoot off her mouth and Barky won’t allow criticism and yet you folks seem to think the kids are open season. Hypocrites, all of you.

    By the way, I’m sure a 17 year old knows plenty about sex.

  • http://N/A breeze

    This is one more way sor a lot of us to relate to the Palin Family:

    Millions of us have experienced the same thing
    with our own daughters. We coped with it, too.

    Another reason to relate with Governor Palin.

    No matter how open I am with the abortion issue,
    I was very happy that my barely 16-year-old decided to not go through with it, even ‘though
    I did give her the option….

    I raised that grandchild. She is 25-years-old
    today, happily married and has gifted me with
    two beautiful and loving great-grandaughters,
    5 and 7 who make my ‘golden years’ totally happy!

  • Andy

    Great statement. Hats off to her.

  • Perry Logan

    You talk about how badly a candidate was vetted–with a straight face.

    You Obamots are a piece of work. ;-)

  • Thinker

    Wow. So the daughter is about the same age that Barry’s mom was when she had him.

    Interesting.

  • Clintonista

    The only think I find troubling is why would Sarah Palin accept this position knowing her daughter is 5 months pregnant?
    The media will tear this poor girl apart and that’s not fair to her.
    It seems Sarah put her own political agenda ahead of her poor daughters privacy and as a mother that doesn’t sit well with me.
    2012 can’t come soon enough!

  • McHope

    How true!

  • Alice Paul

    Aren’t the Democrats the liberal ones, the ones that accept everyone and not judge?

    If Obama’s campaign attacks this young lady what does that say about the DNC. Isn’t it the Republican’s that are supposed to start throwing stones at her?

    I’m so happy to be an Independent now !!!!!

  • HARP

    I think everyone should go to Palin`s site and offer congrats.

    http://www.palinforamerica.com/

  • http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/aug/30/tale-of-the-tape-sarah-palin-vs-barack-obam/ Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    Well Bristol being 5 months pregnant means that there is no way that she could have been the mother of the child Sarah had 3 months ago.

  • just me

    Obama had a life we do not know much about really. blessed,,, but strangely we know absolutely zilch…… no doubt his mother loved him yet there are so many uncertainties and no trail or reference to see…

    Bristol Palins baby will be blessed too into a loving supportive family and the strength of a family that will hide nothing.
    I am sure the country will welcome a new baby into their own hearts and minds….

    Love to you Bristol~~

  • NYC

    I am very happy for the Palin family!!! What makes me happier is that the Palin girl didn’t get pregnant just to be on the Welfare Program like many of the Obummers low-life followers that need help with their crack expenses.

    McCain/Palin’08

  • Alyssa

    What kind of mother raises a daughter that gets pregnant at 17 outside of wedlock?

    Sounds like she should have spent more time with her family talking about values and good judgment instead of being a lapdog for big oil/gas in Alaska.

  • AF catfish

    That is great. And Palin’s daughter will have the support of her parents and grandparents.

  • http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

    So then Obama’s mother gets the lifetime achievement award for worst mother ever huh?

    You are one stupid and ignorant troll!

  • Thinker

    hmmm.

    Is it because Barry’s mom was 18 when she had him?

    Are Barry’s grandparents the worst parents in the world?

    Is Palin’s daughter marrying a bigamist?

  • beebop
  • roseeriter

    Obama’s mom was 17 too. The HYPOCRISY on the left with the Obamabots is wingnut liberalism at its finest.

    How anyone could vote for Obama after the swill I have tortured my eyes with at the sickoevil dkos site is beyond common sense.

    McCain/Palin because Obama is not qualified for POTUS! And the democrats do not deserve to win.

  • McKatmoon

    My opinion matters more than any media pundit. Unlike O supporters, I value my own opinion and character, I don’t need someone to tell me what to think or feel about an issue, particularly teen pregnancy. I have kids and grand-
    kids, so my own experiences serve me far better than a strangers.

    Congratulations again Palin family!

    McCain/Palin 08

  • PKJAYNE

    I nominate you for DOPE OF THE YEAR!!!!!

    You should proofread before posting, or put the hopium bong down while typing at least.

  • ugsome

    I hope as result the Republicans stop making political hay out of teenage motherhood by painting it as a consequence of immoral liberalism. Since we don’t live in a rational universe, I’m not holding my breath there.

  • Paul3triple

    What kind of mother raises a daughter that gets pregnant at 17 outside of wedlock?

    answer: Barack Obama’s

  • http://deleted OBSP

    If it were Barky’s VP, there would be 3 people under the bus.

  • just me

    and where do all his siters and brothers live?

    Oh yes thats right one brother lives in a shack is it in Kenya??? on $12 a month…

    I hope his brother finds the help he needs if he waits to rely on his RICH BROTHER he will simply wait FOREVER!

  • JoseyJ

    Good points!

  • just me

    “”" Sisters”"”

  • Hope Floats

    Are you on glue? There are two candidates in this race – Obama and McCain. The former is not too popular around here.

  • roseeriter

    the hypocrisy of the obamascumbots is gross.

  • Nettie

    Hey, “not this time….” I advocated sex education, birth control AND abstinence (until a certain age) with my kids and you know what? They went ahead and led their lives as they wanted to when they were young adults. As a result, my son fathered a child when he was 20, and the mother married another man! I don’t give a damn how she got here – I love my granddaughter to bits! Maybe YOU should be the one to tell my kids that they weren’t “supposed” to do those things, given the way they were raised.

    Are all 0bama supporters arrogant assholes?

  • Perry Logan

    Most frightening of all is that every one of those little twits thinks s/he’s brilliant.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lPCunsrI1Q Woman Voter

    Well put, but you forgot it is because SHE IS A WOMAN! They didn’t even have to dust the play book they used on Hillary, they are at it again: MISOGYNY!

    Notice we aren’t discussing HEALTH PLANS!

  • JoseyJ

    Teenage Republicans do it too! Shocking!
    lol

  • HARP

    Please tell me if you had sex before marriage……..masturbation does not count

  • Kay

    Not sure how this news will help mobilize the conservative party base. Really all the dems have to do is sit back and let McCain’s foolishness implode his ticket.

    Another thought, I wonder how castrated Mr. Palin is feeling right about now…

  • QUEENIE

    “Bristol Palin made the decision on her own to keep the baby, McCain aides said.”

    Can’t be more Pro – Choice than that..

    can it dems???????

  • roseeriter

    Obama put his political agenda ahead of America and the HYPOCRITS of the DNC are better how?

  • Palinisaterriblemother

    I cant believe Palin accepts this vp offer when she needs to raise her pregnant daughter and 5 kids. she gets it hands down

  • TexasBuckeye

    So at 17, you thought your parents were the smartest people on the planet and listened to everything they said and did everything they asked and believed everything they believed, right?

    Okay, just checking. So did I. (snark)

  • cruz

    he was born? i wanna see the certificate

  • Gregory

    Proof that Bush’s “abstinence only program” DOESN’T work, not even in the inner most conservative circles.

    I’m sorry, it’s not Palin’s fault, but her daughter’s. However, this just doesn’t look good no matter how you try to spin it.

  • Firefly

    Might as well put quotation marks around every one of these sewer-sucking statements and attribute them directly to the obama campaign.

    They are all made at obama’s behest – at obama’s urging – with obama’s tacit or explicit approval – many of the gutter-dwellers are on HIS payroll – I hear many of these “posts” even come from the obama campaign servers.

  • http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

    and that Obama wasn’t a live birth abortion!

  • Perry Logan

    And with a member of the opposite sex. Who knew?

  • http://deleted OBSP

    Barky said she was a good mother!

  • Hope Floats

    Because everyone knows politicians hate babies in election years!

  • http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/ NotYoursweetie

    I followed the bloggers smear from the concoction – to reluctant retraction. Still ongoing
    http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/anatomy-of-a-slander/

  • roseeriter

    Own your own castrated candidate, Obama swings both ways!

  • McHope

    Well don’t you know if a man is a drug abuser, and sees children as a punishment or allows his children to be taught from the God Damn America church it is never questioned whether he is a ‘good’ parent. The truth is no male politicians’ devious behavior has ever raised such a question.
    Parenthood responsibility apparently only applies to female politicians.

  • Bertha

    It is now clear that “liberals” and the left are more interested in scrutinizing a woman’s womb than the religious right. It is the Brave New World of Obama; change that you can believe in!

  • McKatmoon

    It’s good to post these, so we know and we don’t ever forget or let this smear crap happen again. thank you!

  • PewL

    Congratulations to the Palins,A Nice add to the population..Didn’t Obama say at one time,if his children got pregnant too early it would be a mistake..Happy to see the Palins don’t consider babies a mistake…

    Mccain/Palin.

    From what I have read about Sarah,she will make a great VP…

  • Dave_Not_For_Obami

    Let this be a poke in Obambibots eye the fools. By the way, Obambi’s mother was 17 when she was pregnant with Obambi, was she not, glass houses come to mind, lol.

    R.I.P. Kossaks

  • LookingForwardTo2012

    Judge not…..

  • http://N/A breeze

    Millions of us have experienced the same thing
    with our own daughters. We coped with it, too.

    Another reason to relate with Governor Palin.

    No matter how open I am with the abortion issue,
    I was very happy that my barely 16-year-old decided to not go through with it. I gave her the option.

    I raised that grandchild. She is 25-years-old
    today, happily married and has gifted me with
    two beautiful and loving great-grandaughters,
    5 and 7 who make my ‘golden years’ totally happy!

  • QUEENIE

    Oh and ..it is no ones damn business..is it dems..isn’t that what we have all espoused all these years,..that our uterus is our own damn business…

    Now lets practice what we have all preached all these years and start acting like the adults we portend to be!

    It’s not our business and stop anyone from the bullshit rumours of Sarah Palins family..

    Wasn’t it Obama himself and Meeeeeshell..that said their kids were offlimits..well now when any of the obama thugs bring up this owmans family..shut them the fuck up immediately!

    Enough is enough.

    The sewers are for rats..go into the sewer…and you are what you are.

  • Thinker

    exactly.

    Obama’s mother wasn’t a saint either.

    ;)

  • Flforexperience

    Back off, Alyssa!!! Not one of us is perfect. Even mothers who are not governors have children who become pregnant without being married.

  • ohio

    By who standards? Yours? Now that is just freaking hilarious. Obama allows a hate filled minister to fill his kids heads with anti-american, hate filled bias toward white people and Palin’s a bad mother? You really need to lay off the hard stuff.

  • http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/ NotYoursweetie

    Gregory – does it look better or worse that Obama’s birth?

  • QUEENIE

    Oh and ..it is no ones damn business..is it dems..isn’t that what we have all espoused all these years,..that our uterus is our own damn business…

    Now lets practice what we have all preached all these years and start acting like the adults we portend to be!

    It’s not our business and stop anyone from the bullshit rumours of Sarah Palins family..

    Wasn’t it Obama himself and Meeeeeshell..that said their kids were off limits..well now when any of the obama thugs bring up this womans family..shut them the fuck up immediately!

    Enough is enough.

    The sewers are for rats..go into the sewer…and you are what you are.

  • Linda

    Speaking my mind. It’s unfortunate that Bristol is so young to start being a mother, but admirable that she decided to have the child and get married to the father of the child.

    I wish them health and happiness.

  • jimbo

    Palin is a creationist, a point of view totally unfounded by any civil concepts. According to what I read here she says she welcomes the dialog in public schools. Why does she welcome dialog about something that has no basis in anything that should be taught in public school? She has an agenda, and it is religious. I would never have voted for obama, but McCain’s choice has changed my mind, something I didn’t think possible. McCain’s choice is Rovian-think, which as usual does nothing to advance the interests of the country, only the interests of the conservatives. Think bush/cheney.

  • just me

    and a wonderful wedding to follow :

  • Bell’Artista

    I love this news!!!!
    I love all the welcoming and truly progressive comments from the readers of this blog!

    I’ve been astounded at the depth of anger and vindictive hate and self righteousness coming from the left in this campaign coming to a hideous head with the recent comments about Sarah Palin and her family and the RNC convention and Gustav.

    It has been edifying to watch what a candidate DOES in various crisis…..not just hear stoopid speeches that change with the vagaries of circumstance.
    I started out planning on voting for McCain when Hillary was no longer a realistic choice……because he wasn’t OBummer…..not I am excited and enthusiastic and have respect for Johnny Mac in spades.

    One last thought…..with all that nasty MILF business in relation to Sarah…..I wonder if the producers of all those misogynistic tee shirts etc will have to change the M to a G for Grandmothers…?

    McCain / Palin 08
    Hooray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • beebop

    You’ve got that one right, sister.

    Speaking of sisters, I expect every women’s organization to speak out on any of the sexism that is directed toward Bristol and Sarah Palin over the issue of motherhood. It is NOT being “punished with a baby.” It is a function of our bodies. No woman should be treated to the nastiness that has consumed the “progressive” blogs during the course of the past 36 hours. It is unspeakable.

  • roseeriter

    How can Obama be POTUS when he likes blow jobs- Ask Rev Manning, Larry Sinclair, Bill Ayers and Rev Wright all part of the lowdown secret man society of bi-sexuals!

  • Thinker

    lol

  • Yesbama

    You are SOOOOO fucking obsessed with Barack Obama! This has nothing to do with him you fools!

  • McKatmoon

    Fuck off!

  • Disguested with Obama

    Careful how you judge other’s; God really does work in mysterios ways.

  • Gregory

    Here Here! I AGREE!
    Sure makes it hard to bash “welfare queens” living in the ghetto having babies out of wedlock when the conservative VP candidate’s daughter has a bun in the oven at 17.
    I don’t care, but it should shut more than a few republicans up on issues of “morality”.

  • imustprotest

    The world I’ve known has turned upside down. This “new” Undemocratic party is unrecognizable.

  • http://www.latinorepublican.com DD

    My sister was pregnant before she was married. I think there are several young teenagers who get preggers before marriage, and this does not mean we should view them as a disgrace.

    This is a time when young ladies need support and help.

  • Pink Panther

    Didn’t Obama’s mother get pregnant at an early age out of wedlock? Sounds like Obama and his supporters should be more understanding.

  • http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

    So ignorant one, if what you say is true, then every man and woman in America needs to quit their jobs and tend to their families when the same situation arises, how f*cking ignorant are you?

    No need to answer you already proved how ignorant you are!

  • Liz B

    Yes, he should have vetted her at least as well as the DNC vetted Obama…oh, my bad, the DNC didn’t vet Obama, they figured if Oprah promoted him enough, and the Media promoted him enough all of us STUPID people would not know how to get on the INternet and do any research on our own. This just makes Sarah Palin’s family seem more real to me. I have a daughter who got pregnant at seventeen, and I now have a beautiful grandson who is 2 1/2 years old. This doesn’t fly as that much of a shock anymore. I am POSITIVE that BO’s mom getting pregnant at 18 with half African Barack was far more scandolous in 1960 than this is in 2008. Let’s just hope the baby’s dad isn’t married to someone else, isn’t a Muslim, and Mom isn’t planning on going on Food Stamps to support the baby…oh wait that would be Barack’s heartwarming story…I got confused for a moment. Good Luck and Best Wishes to all of the Palin’s. At least their babies aren’t being left to die in soiled utility rooms…

  • Newly Independent

    What kind of mother raises a daughter that gets pregnant at 17 outside of wedlock?

    The kind of mother that raised Barack Obama?

  • Yve

    This doesn’t change a thing, I will vote for McCain/Palin. All children that come into the world are a blessing. As long as Palin’s daughter has her family’s support, she’ll be fine.

  • http://deleted OBSP

    This is a personal family matter that millions of americans go through every day. Work goes on and so does life. My mother had her first child at 17 and had 7 more in 20 years. All completed college and went on to lead successful lives.

  • http://lnab.newsvine.com/ Linda

    You know… people who have the gall to say things like

    “What kind of mother raises a daughter that gets pregnant at 17 outside of wedlock?
    Sounds like she should have spent more time with her family talking about values and good judgment instead of being a lapdog for big oil/gas in Alaska.”

    should be a member of the neo-cons. As an Obama supporter..you’d fit right in. You must be a member of the New Obama Party. Which is why we are saying NOBAMA.

  • roseeriter

    Pardon? Then why are you here obama ass licker?

  • Linda

    And, I should add, WOMEN ROCK. Let me see a man, having 4 children, recently giving birth to a 5 who is special needs, finding out one of your own daughters is pregnant while Governing the state then takes on running for Vice President of the country.

    Men couldn’t even IMAGINE doing all that.

  • Jack

    This was Obama’s mother with him, so what you claim is a total denouncement of your candidate you stupid f*ck!

    How does my comment denounce Hillary? Please explain.

    You McCain trolls are no less sensitive to this news than the Obama trolls were to the the Palin announcement in the first place.

  • Kay

    Well Queenie, considering that according to Sarah Palin there is no choice- even if her daughter were raped- this is just what is expected in the Palin family.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/01/palin-on-abortion-id-oppo_n_122924.html

  • Lobo

    First, Obama has not made ANY comment one way or the other.
    The story has been on the net and spread like a virus.
    Leftwingers are just as bad as rightwingers that say Obama is muslim and his wife is a black panther so lets all get off the high ground here and now.

    Sarah Palin brought all the rumors onto herself because of keeping the fact she was pregnant unknown for 7 months AND at the same time her daughter Bristol was not in school for 4 months. Some one should just check her schedule to see if she had any pre-natal visits during those 7 months.

    True that mothers have done this sort of thing for decades to protect their child from rumors but if Trig is really the child of Bristol then Mrs Palin has an insurance fraud case on her hands along with the ethics charge she is already under investigation for in Alaska.

    To the conspiracy folks out there this story is far from over, especially when Bristol loses this baby.

    Second, we should all feel for this 17 yr old kid Bristol who is now pregnant that has to go through this stuff while taking care of her little brother while mommy campaigns across the country.

    Great family values this new GOP has.
    With the other potential choices for VP sucj as the women Hutchinson & Snow why would McCain make such a dumb pick except to pander to women. How do you all think Mitt Rommney feels this weekend?

  • JimBob

    Or that the wife-beating/ bigamist/philanderer/drunkerd/goat herder would have used a CONDOM!

  • just me

    oh a truly wonderful blessing and may you sit back and relax through your golden years!!

  • Mr. K

    God Bless the Palins or McCain’s balls>

  • Liz B

    I would have supported Sarah Palin beforwe the pick. I think she is a fine lady who lives her faith. Go to Kos and post there, cuz you aren’t saying anything of any use to anybody here.

  • KenNOhio

    This child will have a birth certificate and will someday be able to legitimately run for POTUS. Unlike Barack Beta Version.

  • kelly

    are you guys high? she’s a devout christian, and her daughter had a baby out of wedlock. this will kill him with evangelicals. i understand you want a woman in the white house, but is it effecting your brain now? i can’t believe you would even attempt to argue this one.

  • OMG

    i have been sticking up for that daughter to everyone i know, saying “how could you ever say that she had the baby she is 17! people dont even really kiss befor then thats horrible, dont you ever say a girl did such a horrific thing unless you know for sure” and now this. i am heatbroken. i thought she was a good person. and now the daughter is going to ruin her mom scarrer and possibly the country because she is so evil. i am going to cry. i used to like her family.

  • Hope Floats

    The daughter is nearly a legal adult. Her age exceeds that of consent in most states. And she is in love with the father, and they’re getting married. It’s very romantic. There was nothing that suggests her daughter was counseled on an abstinence-only birth control method. She just decided she is ready to grow up and be a woman. I’m very happy for her and the whole Palin family.

  • Pink Panther

    This is just more of female bashing by Obama supporters. They truly do hate women.

    Being pro-choice includes the decision to have the child. The leftist seem to believe that pro-choice means only allowing abortions. This sounds like typical Marxist theology.

    Obama’s Democratic Party: Home of Sexism, Misogyny, Racism and the Glass Ceiling for Women

  • http://www.cafepress.com/flyingmonkeyinc/5767556 NObamaNoHow

    Classy.

  • roseeriter

    Unbelievable isn’t it? But it proves how extremist, be they left or right are complete wack jobs and insane.

  • CheatedFLVoter

    I second that!

  • catherine

    Life is not always fair. Sometimes women and families have to make tough choices. I have no doubt many Americans can relate to what the Palin family is experiencing. The VP is an opportunity for Mrs. Palin that cannot be taken lightly- as it does not come along every day. Despite the challenges that will undoubtedly lie ahead, Sarah Palin seems to have a grounded “can do” attitude with a very supportive husband and extended family. The Democrats should know- there are all types of families in America. They better be careful should they start criticizing the Palins with regard to this personal family matter. It WILL blow up in their faces.

  • http://NoteToSelfDontDie.com/members/ gerard McNedich

    if you feel disgusted now…

    just wait till the election fraud happens in november…

    a. hillary
    b. mccain

    america first!

  • BernieO

    I hope you aren’t the parent of teenagers. You are asking for trouble if you think that being a stay-at-home, involved mom keeps kids from getting pregnant. It may reduce the risk, but it is no guarantee. I grew up in the fifties when almost everyone’s mom stayed home yet a couple of girls from really nice families ended up pregnant (this was a small town). There were several others that I know for sure had unprotected sex at least a couple of times. In fact I know one of their moms who thought like you and her daughter was more at risk than most.

    Do we know for sure that Palin told McCain about this? If not that could be a problem, unless she did not know until now, which is not out of the realm of possibilities.

    The only criticism of her that I think has some validity is that she answered a questionnaire when running for governor where she said she approved of abstinence only education, and not explicit sex ed. The evidence is clear that only the latter works. So maybe if she had tried this her daughter would not be pregnant, but even that is no guarantee.
    Check out her answers (just scroll down, don’t click on the palinforgovernor link which now goes to McCain’s website.) I am not happy with several of them, although I don’t know that she implemented any of these positions as governor.
    http://eagleforumalaska.blogspot.com/2006/07/2006-gubernatorial-candidate.html

  • Gregory

    Who are you kidding, sure it does. Obama’s mother wasn’t a preachy conservative as far as I know.

    I’m no Obama fan, but some people have lost a grip on all reality by turning this into the best things since sliced bread. It IS a fact of life, and I really don’t care. But this news can’t please the conservative camp. Regardless of her choice to keep her baby and get married.

  • Terry

    What double-standards by the dailyk*s crowd!

    I don’t recall howls of complaint when John Edwards ran for pres in 2004 despite having two very young children at home. And nary a harsh word was heard when he continued with his political ambitions despite having two small children AND a terminally ill wife. But, when a woman has political aspirations, well, the kids better be grown and all other family obligations resolved or else she is a selfish, blindly ambitious person.

    Kudos to Mac for picking a real person!

  • McKatmoon

    Sounds like you don’t have children.

  • Mark

    Obama’s Mother did not promote abstinence only, and no birth control.

  • http://investigatebarackobama.wordpress.com/about/ kat in your hat

    Alyssa:

    What kind of rock have YOU been living under. I hate to break it to you, but it is not unusual for 17 year olds to have sex with their boyfriend. Furthermore, she is engaged and she will marry the father, and this is Bristol Palin’s little family. So?

    You know, she could have just had an abortion, and no one would know she was (OMG!!) having sex. BUT this is a PRO-LIFE family. In your world, maybe it is a shame, but it’s a blessing to others, even though it is a challenge.

    Furthermore, what’s YOUR sex life like? You blame / think of your own mother for the decisions you make with a lover? Gimme a break.

  • roseeriter

    Um, Obama’s mom was 17 too and he is a cocaine addict..Hello???!!!

  • QUEENIE

    hey gregory..you don’t seem to be a democrat..are you a republican “nut case” ?? You must be..one of “those people”..because ..see darlin..we democratic women for our entire lifetimes have said our uterus belongs to us..and this Young lady decided to have her baby..and own her own uterus..Gregory..that is called Pro – choice!

    So oviously..Gregory .. you must be anti- choice ..and it is obvious by your post you could not be a pro-choice democrat..so why are you here again??????

    Oh..i get it.. you are one of the “new democrats”..with piss for brains..I thought so!

  • Liz B

    By the way, Obot, that question could be asked of you, too. Would you have voted for Barack Obama during the Primary Season had you known all we know about him now? If your answer is yes then we know what kind of fool you are and to what degree.

  • fred

    How Many Good, Qualified Women Will We Allow Obama and the DNC to Destroy?

  • Deb

    Greta’s husband- a big Hillary supporter has switched over to McCain/Palin

    http://www.blog.newsweek.com/blogs/tamcam/archive/2008/09/01/top-hillary-supporter-switches-to-mccain.aspx

  • Ferd McBerfle

    You can take a hike Right On down the road and take your hogwash with you.

  • roseeriter

    You’re an obama assbot go back to evil orange.

    I love the idea of a grandmother as VP. Beats america hater Mechelle.

  • just me

    yes this is The Palin YEAR!!

    and what a wonderful family to bring forth!!
    The more I learn the more I like!

  • snosandy

    If Obama’s Mommy wasn’t punished with a baby as an unwed teenager then we wouldn’t have Barack here to run for President today.

  • NYC

    Are all 0bama supporters arrogant assholes?
    Yes, and the ones that weren’t, learned from their king of arrogance. My friends in Germany were laughing at him when he played ‘president’ in Berlin. Obummer made a big mistake not going to Italy. He will see the consequences on due time…

  • calindi

    You are so right. Same with my family, and many of my friends in the rural/small town area I grew up in. The Obama folks are proving today that it is physically possible to talk before thinking, because many of the Hillary voters that are up for grabs, the lower income, rural, small town women I grew up with, will totally identify with this. One of the great ironies is that while the Obama cult is having a field day using this to club the Palins, not one of them seems to have stopped to think that their guy, Obama, was brought into the world the exact same way! What ya think the odds are of Olberman and the other Obama Pom Pom girls recognizing the connection to Obama’s conception/birth while they use this to try to skin the Palins?

  • Thinker

    Palin doesn’t have to not run because her daughter is pregnant.

    So what if the media has something to say? They are full of shit anyways!

    Obama’s mother was around the same age as Bristol when she had him.

    I don’t hear the media saying that Obama is a bad candidate since he was born to a teenage mother.

  • JM08

    Two things need to happen NOW. They need to figure out a way to let her actually give her acceptance speech for Vice President. If they allow the media and internet to define her for too much longer it wont be good.

    Secondly if the whitey tapes are in the hands of the republicans they need to start releasing them NOW.

    Obama has been basically given a free pass this whole election cycle, and that needs to change. I mean really change. Rumors these whitey tapes exist is not enough. Its time to start hitting back hard.

  • No Mo, Bo or Stumblin Jo

    To the conspiracy folks out there this story is far from over, especially when Bristol loses this baby.

    WTF is that supposed to mean?
    Are you older than 12? You need your ass kicked.

  • Katherine B.

    I think this is not such good news. It will be a huge distraction for the McCain campaign. However, I do find it amusing that the MSM, which now seems to be able to uncover every last detail on Gov. Palin, couldn’t be bothered to cover anything the least bit scandalous about Obama – not to mention Edwards! But I’m afraid not too many people will see the irony in that.

  • RepublicanChick

    Family values to this Republican means you stick by your family through the good and bad times. Life isn’t always peachy and thanks to the left wing idiots—Bristol Palin knows this as well.

  • Hope Floats

    It’s hilarious to see what they actually think of most Americans. “White trash” “inbred” “irresponsible.” I’m just guessing most Americans are going to think Obama is out of touch with mainstream values and just not presidential.

  • Steve1

    Alyssa…Mr. Soetoro-Obama’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham was messing with Barack senior when she was 17 yrs old, Senior was, 24, can we say statuary rape, even if it was consensual! Pedophilia is another word which we could apply? Plus Soetoro was born out of wedlock. So don’t go prissy on us!

  • ford

    Obama doesn’t have to say a thing, Gregory and the rest of the tools in the MSM were jumping on anything that they could since the pick was made.

    The judgemental attitude of the left wing is a lot of fun to poke at, isn’t it??

    We want choice, we have it.

    We want people to take responsibility for their lives, we have it.

    We want full disclosure, we have it.

    We want authentic people from modern America, we have it.

    We want a woman in power, we have a chance to vote for it.

    Come on women…those who have the perfect life please post NOW.(Yes it is a PUN.)

  • rachel

    if it was Obiteme’s daughter, she would have been whisked away to a clinic in minutes. You know, “punished with a baby”.

  • rjj

    Do you know any evangelicals?

    Most of them had to get married.

  • Alyssa

    Palin opposes abortion even if her own daughter was raped. That is a more extreme pro-life view than even mainstream Republicans hold.

    She opposes sex education, including teaching our children about contraception, and instead prefers abstinence-only education…which didn’t work so well with her daughter.

    The same social conservatives who strongly condemned Jamie Spears, Juno and Knocked Up for promoting teen pregnancy and pregnancy out of wedlock will now rally around Palin to show their true contradictory nature.

  • Cooney

    Sara Palin is the kind of mother like millions of mothers in this United States of America, me included. I had to get married because I was pregnant, and now my 35 year old son, an engineer, father of two, and an absolutely wonderful human being. Probably a lot better person than you alyssa. He is a tolerant kind and wonderful addition to the human race.

    My daughter also had to get married, has three beautiful children, a great husband, and is probably one of the best mother’s I have had the pleasure to take credit for.

    My sisters, two, besides myself also had to get married, and that was in the 60′s, daughters of devote Catholics and very good parents. All of their children brought about out of wedlock, are some of the most productive people and parents.

    I have to suspect you have no children, for the old saying applies, only by the grace of God go I, should be something you should think and and internalize. Sara Palin is in some very good company and have added to the world in a much more humanity manner than yourself, alyssa.

  • Brian_C82

    The DailyKook wing of the Democratic Party can’t understand why anyone would want to have kids. They’re too busy sipping lattes and attending classes.

  • RepublicanChick

    Obviously, you don’t know any evangelicals. I know plenty and most of them are thankful that she’s chosen to keep the child.

    This election isn’t about Bristol Palin, but Obama vs McCain.

    Before you open your mouth or type on that keyboard, think about what you’re saying—especially regarding people you don’t know.

  • No Mo, Bo or Stumblin Jo

    He already has the evangelicals! You don’t think any of them has had a daughter come home pregnant before? Gosh, is the ugly orange site down or something? Where are you maggots coming from??

  • McHope

    Hillary and Bill Clinton have raised an amazing daughter despite the turmoil and heavy scrutiny of politics in their lives.
    McCain ’08
    Hillary ’12
    Chelsea ’20

  • http://www.latinorepublican.com DD

    Palin will lovingly support her daughter. MILLIONS of Americans go through this. Have y’all forgotten about Obama’s own story with regard to being fatherless for a period of time, too?

  • McKatmoon

    so you are an evangelical, or republican? Because that would be the only way your would know, otherwise, that’s opinion, not fact and really if your aren’t of the group you are trying to quote fact about, you just may not have a realisitc perspective.

  • Hope Floats

    If the Obama campaign weren’t a despicable bunch of shitbags, then Palin’s daughter’s pregnancy wouldn’t be an issue at all. That’s the funniest thing I’ve heard all day. HAHAHA. Her daughter decided to have a baby and get married, and she should quit her job? You sure you’re for women’s rights?

  • McKatmoon

    I don’t think you ever cared to begin with, shows in your fickleness.

  • http://msnGodhelpusall Lee M

    To Alyssa:
    You are an ignorant prude. While I do not condone a 17 year old becoming pregnant out of wedlock, I applaud her decision to have the baby.
    As to what kind of mother she must have? The kind that made the girl want to keep the baby and nurture it, unlike so many who have an abortion and then hide the fact that she had sex out of marriage. The kind of mother who instills in her children that a life is precious, and far more important than saving face.
    Sarah Palin is the right kind of mother raising her daughter to have the sense of responsibility and courage to do the right thing on her own. God Bless Sarah Palin. Would that we had many more mothers like her.

  • McHope

    Neither was his polygamist, alcoholic deadbeat dad, and Obama wrote a tribute to him.

  • flyboy

    Beautiful – another “brilliant” speech. I’ll never comprehend how the “smart and educated” muster the patience to listen to his incoherent deliveries.

  • No Mo, Bo or Stumblin Jo

    Barack Obama should be held responsible for the things his campaign is “leaking” and the things his thugs say. I know where this is coming from–from the same guy who slyly flipped Hillary off on the stump. Passive agressive wussy.

  • OMG

    are you kidding me, i am a 21 yr old female die hard hillary supporter. the day before yesterday i got all the Palin gear with pink elephants, i was so exited. dont call me an assbot for having morals i believe and follow!!! just like 90% of america that wont vote her now.

  • Mercedes

    This situation poses some interesting questions for Obama. If abortion had been legal in 1961, would Obama even be here? Would HIS mother have made the same choice Bristol Palin has made?

    I admire McCain for choosing a fellow reformer as his running mate. I am glad this circumstance did not influence his decision.

    Also, I admire the Palin family for being true to their beliefs and wish Bristol the best.

  • c4every

    If Obama would have been in McCain shoes he would have dumped Palin as soon as he found out about the baby, afraid that it would cost him the election.

    Obama does not measure up to McCain.

    That is becoming more evident everyday.

  • Pink Panther

    According to the news, there are 5000 protesters heading to the Republican convention.

    Obama’s leftist are probably going to demand the repeal of 19th Amendment to the Constitution (i.e., the right for women to vote). After all, they attacked Hillary, are now attacking Palin and Palin’s daughter’s right to have her child.

    Obama’s Democratic Party: Home of Sexism, Misogyny, Racism and the Glass Ceiling for Women

  • ohio

    I don’t think that is the way at all. I mean, come on, she’s damn if she does and damn if she doesn’t by some of you people. Palin is the real woman, juggling all aspects of a career while taking care of her family. I’m sure she and her family discussed this as McCain knew ahead of time. Give them more credit than this. This is really hypocracy at it’s best. I certainly hope that there are those who have a job and family situations that would be also willing to give up their job if their daughter got pregnant. If not, then I wouldn’t be talking.

  • prabhata

    The best parents don’t have a say when daughters decide to have sex.

  • Rebecca Burt

    Let’s see…an ex-beauty pagent winner…with a undergraduate degree in jounalism…who does not believe in global warming…who does believe a woman should have no control over her own body and for 9 months should be viewed as nothing more than a baby container…who’s main attributes seem to be stubborness and vicious competiveness…who has a currently very messy family situation given that she had recently given birth to a downs syndrome baby, has a 17 year old daughter who is unwed and pregnant and is facing investigation for usning her political office to smear her ex-brother-in-law and get him fired (he is in a custody battle with her sister)…who seems to be in bed with big oil…who is running for VP…whose running mate is 72 and is a cancer survivor…who has no foreign policy background and in fact has only been out of the country twice…who may become President of the country I love at a time when it faces the most complex foreign policy issues, economic issues and domestic issues it has in decades…Why does this sound like a totally unbelievably bad novel???? I for one am terrified and can not understand what Mr. McCain was thinking!!!!

  • McKatmoon

    How very brave of them; during a hurricane when they know the party has suspended most of their activities. oo bad they can’t take that same time and energy and maybe, volunteer with the Red Cross over the next few days.

  • Ferd McBerfle

    This isn’t about Sarah’s morals, child. The daughter is responsible–not the mother. When are you youngsters going to understand that you can’t blame everything on Mommy and daddy?

  • QUEENIE

    Another Ginger Rogers sister!!

    Remember, Ginger Rogers did everything Fred Astaire did, but backwards and in high heels.

  • Mandelay

    Is this a slow news day or what? Please be sure to advise when the Obama girls reach puberty and do let us know when Michelle begins menopause. If you needed this story to confirm that McCain has “brass balls,” then you cannot begin to imagine life inside the Hanoi Hilton.

  • getfitnow

    Congratulations to Bristol, hubby-to-be and the entire Palin family.

    McCain/Palin ’08

  • puma4palininvegas

    I am a Health Educator and I plan to use this as a discussion topic on “getting real” about this issue.

    As a lifelong dem, I have changed my affiliation to ind. and will support McCain/Palin. I encourage ALL women to do their part to elect this ticket. This may be our one and only chance and if it weren’t for women like Susan B. Anthony, Feraro, Hillary and Sarah; we wouldn’t even have this opportunity. They’ve all worked extremely hard for all of us. I’d say that their struggles are well worth our votes!

  • ssmith

    Hi guys…hillary supporter for mccain here. I understand Palin’s daughter is preganant,pretty much everyone on the hillary blogs, PUMAs are still supporting mccain/palin.

    I will be sick to my stomach if these frauds go after this poor kid. I AM A STAUNCH PRO-CHOICE PERSON: People need to realise.. pro-choice means ITS YOUR CHOICE.. some may abort such a baby, others, like bristol, would want to keep it..IT IS A CHOICE. Just b/c I’m pro-choice, I’m not pro-abortion, the kid got pregnant, it happens, I am more upset.. that these loser Dems (and I say this as a TRUE progressive dem in the mold of FDR/CLINTON) are going to drag this poor kid thru mud, along with her mom..

    the loony left, who now run the undemocratic party are mad b/c bristol did not make the CHOICE they wanted.. which is abort the baby.. for bristol and for sarah

    I for one am thankful Mccain looked at Palin’s qualifiecations are decided to make her the VP… a man in that same position who be treated this way. Mccain did not allow this double standard to get in the way of picking someone qualified like sarah palin.

    I’m still voting mccain/palin…. and wanna talk about hypocrasy? just look up the john edwards affair! I am sick to have ever been part of this stupid “democratic” party!

    You know if this had happened to a man, they would not be making such a big deal of it. Senator Mccain, please know I have more respect for you b/c apprarently you knew this and still judged Sarah Palin on her qualifications only, and I will be still proud to support you.

    I am no longer watching any TV, Obama and his minions will no doubt go after Sarah and this poor kid, and please know us PUMAs (disaffected dems voting Mccain) will still support you and and thank you.

  • Brian_C82

    I think it’s safe to assume that Barky’s hippie mother would have flushed him down the toilet.

  • Lobo

    Can’t you read you asshole, it means just what it is.
    To those people the entire news release today that this 17 year old good Christian girl is knocked up by some guy, whose age has not been released, is just a diversion. It is a coverup to hide the fact that the baby Trig is actually the child of Bristol, not Sarah & Todd. If there is an news break between now and the election that Bristol ‘lost’ the baby those people will go nuts.
    Now if you believe that you can kick my ass you are just as f’d up as I know you are.

  • Dinthemidwest

    My what a how greater thou art statement..! I too have 5 children, my oldest daughter had her first baby at 18, she married the father…that was 24 years ago..they are still married, had 3 other children, the oldest of which graduated from college with a 4.0 grade average..things happen on this journey thru life..it is not the situation we may find ourselves facing but how & what we do with them..

  • http://lnab.newsvine.com/ Linda

    I was SOOOOO thankful our kid managed to get out of highschool without getting knocked up! Tell you, that youngest one was the scariest kid I ever raised…her frontal lobes just REFUSED to develop!

    She’s 20 now, married and just had our first grandson (she has always absolutely loved kids)… while “he” wouldn’t have been my first choice, she is an absolutely FANTASTIC mother who has given us the best grandbaby in the world!

  • No Mo, Bo or Stumblin Jo

    He knew that he could not pick anyone with less integrity and less experience than his opponent.

  • OMG

    your right i gave them money when she was announced cuz i was bored. i wrote karl rove on his website to tell him i thought this was a great choice because i am a liar. and i follow my values because they are meaniningless and i dont really care.

  • katmandu

    Alyssa, from the tone of your comments I do not think you are interested in any child’s welfare, but rather just want to grind a political ax.

  • McKatmoon

    Let’s see Obama, a public figure, 46 years old, Bristol Palin 17…do you really not get it?

  • Raven

    Congratulations to the Palins!
    I do hope that their new addition to the family will
    be born healthy and bring them all much joy.
    I agree that while it is wonderful to see that Bris- tol has the love and support of her family, it is
    unfortunate that, so early in life, she is in this
    situation. I wish for her only good things and good
    thoughts as she prepares for her baby’s birth.

  • Thinker

    Great family values this new GOP has.

    -Not so great family values the new candidate of “change” has.

    Cheats on his wife with women AND men.

    tsk tsk.

  • http://obamafact.blogspot.com/ Mel

    Hey OMG, you are pathetic and a complete loser and you proved it?

  • http://chriss chris

    Didn’t the msm glorify Brit. Spears sister’s(17 I believe) pregnancy? Didn’t GMA/ABC bring one of the teenage couples from that high school in NE that supposedly had the pregnancy pact going happening on their show for an interview and treat them like celebrities? If they make a big deal out of this then they are the most hypocritical organizations out there. But I guess we already know that don’t we.

  • http://chriss chris

    Didn’t the msm glorify Brit. Spears sister’s(17 I believe) pregnancy? Didn’t GMA/ABC bring one of the teenage couples from that high school in NE that supposedly had the pregnancy pact happening on their show for an interview and treat them like celebrities? If they make a big deal out of this then they are the most hypocritical organizations out there. But I guess we already know that don’t we.

  • ohio

    Oh my, you post that rag? Really, kids get pregnant everyday. She handled it brilliantly and you guys just can’t get around this lady. I can’t wait to see Obama crash and burn on this one.

  • Hope Floats

    snark? bitterness?

  • Kay

    The girl couldn’t have made a choice when her mother has clearly stated her position is that even if her daughter was raped that is no reason to abort. Therte is no CHOICE in that. You must have another option if you make a choice. That is clearly not the case here. Palin women are baby factories with no choice except abstinence!

  • Mandelay

    If you consider human beings with downs syndrome to be causing a “very messy family situation,” then you need to straighten out your horns. People who have and want children do not consider themselves to be “baby containers.” And what’s wrong with being a cancer survivor? Or a POW camp survivor? I can understand why you are “terrified.” You are the scariest thing to visit this blog in a long time.

  • OMG

    it makes the country look bad though. how can we ask for other nations to follow example if this is what they know of us?

  • Firefly

    So, is Barack Obama going to go on record saying what you said?

    Because if he isn’t, then it’s moot – just tripe from a bunch of pubescent mommy’s boy with a serious crush on the black and white closet homosexual candidate, barack obama.

  • TexasBuckeye

    What you don’t understand about the opposition to sex education by most conservatives is this:

    They don’t want school officials to teach their children about these sensitive issues. They want to have these conversations with their children in private at home away from other children where both the child and parent are free to speak their minds, ask open questions, and give detailed answers.

    Sex education in school is not designed for the individual student’s needs, concerns, or fears. Children are not free to ask questions because they fear they’ll be made fun of by other children. Teachers cannot give personal advice that might apply to the individual child’s needs.

    Conservatives aren’t against sex education, just sex education from the State.

  • tillthen

    OMG, WTF is your point?

  • http://lnab.newsvine.com/ Linda

    Amen to that!

  • fooj

    Proof that Bush’s “abstinence only program” DOESN’T work, not even in the inner most conservative circles.

    I’m sorry, it’s not Palin’s fault, but her daughter’s

    How the hell is it her daughter’s fault? Unless she has pulled off an IMMACULATE CONCEPTION (that can’t be since we’ve been told Obama is the next Messiah) it takes TWO to make a baby. You’re empty argument just doesn’t hold up.

    Wanna talk about CHANGE? Personally, I am thrilled that McCain had the balls to indirectly snub his nose at a stupid, irrational, nonsensical program such as “abstinence only”…all the while emphasizing how this young woman made this personal CHOICE on her own. BRAVO!

    Now THIS is a change I can believe in.

    Actions speak louder than words.

  • katmandu

    Thank you for pointing that out.

  • Pink Panther

    OMG,
    You were never going to vote for Palin.

    It’s interesting how Obama supporters scream about the right to choose. A right to choose also means the right to have a child.

    The hatred shown toward Palin’s daughter by Obama’s supporters is typical of hatred shown toward women by Obama.

    Obama’s Democratic Party: Home of Sexism, Misogyny, Racism and the Glass Ceiling for Women

  • wry

    She was pregnant by a married adult man she barely knew.

    Glass houses anyone?

    And by the way you hypocritical “liberal” piece of shit “Alyssa”, I had sex at 17 and I’m sure you did too, even if you had to tie a porkchop around your neck to get a dog to follow you home, you horrible person.

  • Thinker

    nevermind Lobo aka lobotomy

    I guess we should feel sorry for Obama’s 17 going on 18 year old pregnant mom who later sent Obama to her parents so they could raise him while she lived overseas with her other kid.

  • roseeriter

    How do you know? I’ll bet O’s grandmother did.

  • Pink Panther

    Why would you write Karl Rove?

  • Hope Floats

    Bristol Palin is a few months shy of 18. At that age she can vote or fight in the Middle East. She is considered responsible enough to not be referred to as a wayward child with a “bun in the oven.”

  • dcmediagirl

    Alyssa: Palin would have set herself up for criticism if she had arranged for her daughter to have an abortion. She didn’t. There is no inconsistency here. And by the way, the abstinence-only education movement is a racket. Sensible social conservatives know it doesn’t work, but they’re too deeply invested in it despite its obvious, quantifiable failures. That’s their problem to sort out. And if they want to hypocritically defend Palin’s daughter while criticizing Jamie Lynn Spears and Juno, as far as I’m concerned that just adds to the fun.

  • Chan

    Here’s the headline: “ANOTHER PREGNANCY! PALIN WHITE TRASH FAMILY, HEARTBEAT AWAY FROM THE WHITE HOUSE.”

  • Lobo

    You are truely an ass.

  • fooj

    “My family is OFF LIMITS” cried the boy king.

    The hypocrisy is STUNNING.

  • Eidnoreid

    oh, i’m sure barack obama’s mother feels the same way about family values when she gave birth to barack obama as an unwed teenager.

  • OMG

    your right i am a complete loser because i waited for marriage and that is so “prude” right. what a loser am i. and not doing bad things as a teenager? god i am the worst LOSER you are so right. voting based on my own beliefs is so pathetic. wanting to see good people represent this country..how pathetic. having a non moral person trying to fool people to think she was…who cares.

  • Hope Floats

    WTH kind of comment is that? Castrated?

  • Shelly

    Obama’s mother may have been 17 and married when she had him but she was NOT running for VP so nix the comparison! If this pregnancy issue was the about the Obama’s, the GOP, and news media would have a field day smearing them! Move over Edwards! What a cover-up!

  • Thinker

    lol. Good One!!

    Just saying hello to another Ohio voter! :)

  • tillthen

    It sounds like OMG is bipolar. God help her.

  • Brian_C82

    Holy crap, the far left is literally losing their minds over Sarah Palin. Kos is jumping on the pregnancy announcement as proof that abstinence education won’t work. It never occurs to him that a candidate’s 17 year old daughter is not an appropriate subject for political ridicule.

    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/1/13540/20367/584/582167

  • blog force one

    So,,, she’s 5 month Pregnant the according to the fascist daily Kos time line then she had a baby and was simultaneously pregnant! God speed and good luck to the Palin family and This is a blessed event a marriage! I love it!

  • Carol

    OMG Alyssa: What planet do you live on. We raise our children with all the love and directions in life that we can. It happens no matter how much you try to educate your children.

    I didn’t have a daughter, but do have a son and we had talked to him about the conseqences of having sex before marriage. He and his girlfriend lived through a very trying time when she thought she was pregnant, marriage plans were being discussed when she got the tests results that she was not. We all had discussed the options available and they were choosing to get married. So, it can happen even if you have a son.

    Don’t be so quick to play the blame game until you have walked in the same shoes as Sarah Palin and all of us mothers.

  • ohio

    Actually it doesn’t seem as bad as you would want to paint it. You’ve just been listening to the dem spin machine too long. I was a dem and an evangelical at the same time. I know quite a few evagelicals who have had kids who got pregnant. It happens. And believe me, all they really preach is responsibilty, which is what these kids are going to show by keeping and raising the child, while they get married. They are the ones who are living with the responsibilty, not you or me. But it does dispose of the fact that if she is five months pregnant, then Sarah couldn’t be hiding the fact that it was Bristol was actually the mother of Trig, now could it? 2) Obama was conceived by a 17 year old unwed mother, do you really want to go there? 3) Wasn’t it Obama who said that more fathers need to take responsibily instead of just being a “donor”? 4) Bristol is not the name of the vp pick last time I knew 5) saying that Sarah should stay home and take care of her family will just garner more support from the women who have to do a job and take care of their family 6)Then you are saying that Michelle should just stay home and not be out campaigning (which is fine with me) 7)If you feel that way then every woman in America has just been reduced to being nothing more than a baby making machine and should give up their jobs, including all the women who are in governmental positions.

  • McKatmoon

    So do you just need a refund for those important things?

  • Alyssa

    It’s laughable you insult the great teachers of our nation as unable to relate to our children about something so basic as human sexuality.

    And yet, you think “social conservative” parents will be much more open about the topic with their children (or that their children aren’t afraid to openly discuss that topic with them…plenty are).

    Palin also wants to teach creationism in our science classes. What’s next, voodoo? Islam? Buddha? No thanks; teach my children science in school, I can take them to Sunday school myself.

  • DeniseMN

    I think it’s pretty telling that many critics are forgetting that Bristol has a father as well as a mother. But, as usual, it’s all the mother’s fault.

  • SJ

    Really well if a young girl that is pregnant can put this country in danger, what about the child that was born to a mother who they say married a man that had several wives?

    Hell we are not even sure if they were married as the man they say has no proof of getting a divorce from any of these woman. What about all the half brothers and sisters that this child who is running for President ignores does it not show some kind of strange behavior that can put the country at risk too.

    What about the feeling of neglect that this child may have as his white mother was abandon by his black father, man we can psychoanalyze Obama and his problems there are so many, a whole lot more than a woman running for VP that has to announce her daughter is pregnant and not married.

    If your really look at it Obama looks more like the individual that will have a lot of insecurities to deal with which should be of concern as to where and when these insecurities may manifest itself.

  • fooj

    Gregory-

    Here’s a little tidbit from that “birds and bees” talk your family OBVIOUSLY neglected to have. Conservatives get pregnant, too. I hope this doesn’t come as too much of a shock. Wouldn’t want it to ruin what’s left of your day.

  • Hope Floats

    Palin’s husband isn’t a Republican. Don’t you think he had some say in how his daughter was raised. After all, the father is supposedly the rock of the nuclear family. His wife is pro-life, and his daughter could have had an abortion if she wanted. She could be pro-choice but decided to follow her mother’s example.

    If pro-lifers are doing it right, not imposing their views on you, practicing what they preach and are happy with their lives, then what is the big deal?

  • BernieO

    Probably not. She is a Unitarian which is quite liberal.

  • catherine

    The Obots better be very careful what comes out of their mouths. Stanley Dunham decided to keep him even though Obama Sr. was ALREADY married to someone else! You know what they say about people who live in glass houses.

  • McKatmoon

    Your fear is probably based on putting your trust in other people, instead of your own perception first. Perhaps following a group?

  • Jack

    McCain ‘08
    Hillary ‘12
    Chelsea ‘20

    One term McCain?

    Is that the latest Hopey-Changey disinformation from the McCain spinners for the Hillary supporters?

  • jeronimo

    McCain should have asked Britney Spears mom to be his running mate. Same difference. What a joke.

  • TexasBuckeye

    Bristol Palin isn’t running for VP either. The comparison is valid.

  • Thinker

    lol

    I think they would have more of a problem with Obama flip-flopping on his policies and his campaign silencing one of his male lovers than Bristol deciding not to have an abortion.

  • Newly Independent

    Speaking of sisters, I expect every women’s organization to speak out on any of the sexism that is directed toward Bristol and Sarah Palin over the issue of motherhood.

    Good point!

    To my knowledge, N.O.W. has been the ONLY women’s organization that has blasted the MSM and the Obama campaign for the extreme sexism that has taken place during this election year.

    Virtually all of the other “women’s organizations” kept their cowardly, crooked mouths shut on the misogyny during the primary. When they did finally speak, they only spoke up to chastize other women for not supporting that sexist fraud Obama!

    They better keep their damned mouths shut about Palin’s daughter. As they have already lost enough of their credibility!

  • OMG

    i wrote him because he goes on tv alot and references e-mails and i like(ed) it if someone would say “woman are not voting palin” then he can respond “well i have been getting e-mails that say otherwise” so my voice is heard.

  • Donna

    Holy shit! Bristol is running for VP??? Where the hell have I been, I thought is was SARAH running. Somebody slap me upside the head.

  • Maggie

    Fine. And what about McCain himself fooling around with Cindy while he was still married to his seriously injured wife????? Whether you McCain people like it or not, this event opens up a very large can of worms. I have a 16-year-old daughter and believe me, I am now appalled that a VP candidate who could easily become president, if McCain is elected, has a family in such disarray. Just more evidence of McCain’s lack in judgment. It is scary to think this man and possibly woman would be in charge of making decisions for the rest of us. Don’t trust either of them. BTW, Palin is under ethics investigation for covering up. That is the issue here–too many cover ups. Who can you trust?

  • Observer

    You are communicating with us by the internet from somewhere in the 19th century correct? Amazing technology back then. I did not know it existing.

  • tillthen

    …and you Lobo are a poodle.

  • Hope Floats

    I never heard Sarah Palin preaching anything but her ability to lead a full life, do her job and focus on government reform and fiscal responsibility.

  • ohio

    Um, I think that Todd is taking care of his son, but hey I didn’t get that from the left wing smear site. It’s called families taking care of families. Nice concept. Maybe you ought to try it. I know my daughter helped me with my younger son while I was divorced. She was a great help and it made her a better mother too. But gosh darn it, it gave her responsibility that today’s kids no little about.

  • roseeriter

    And just as many females in that hate group- that’s what blows my sensibilities.

  • BernieO

    I am still not sure about this. I read a quote where she said it should be discussed but was not speaking about science classes. Many people who fight creationists do not oppose discussing the issue in non science classes such as comparative religion. She may favor teaching it in science class but I have not seen the evidence for this.

  • Hope Floats

    God love Ann Richards!

  • Yo

    ditto. I think it’s great that Bristol decided to keep her baby. I am pro-choice but that is not the right answer for everyone. I have two daughters and if one of them got pregnant, I would stand behind whatever she decided to do.

  • Monet

    It sounds like if Stanley Ann Obama had taken your advice at age seventeen, Senator Obama wouldn’t exist. At least his father wouldn’t be a Kenyan named Obama.

  • Linda

    LOL Yep!

  • tillthen

    jeronimo, you are the joke, go back to your teepee and read a book.

  • pm317

    McCain should come back with “look what a fine nominee (and a worthy opponent for me) you have in Obama because his mother chose to keep him!”

  • fooj

    I don’t hear any of the Palins complaining.

    If you are so concerned about fraud then start looking into Obama. There’s enough fraud to last this country a lifetime. Funny how Obamabots thrive on talking about ANYTHING else but Obama.

    To the conspiracy folks out there this story is far from over, especially when Bristol loses this baby.

    What a sick fucking thing to say. What the fuck is wrong with you people? You make the fundies look like angels. You call yourself a Democrat? I CALL BULLSHIT.

  • WMCB

    A VP candidate’s daughter has just announced she is expecting, and that she, the father, and the entire family are happy and welcoming about it. How is this a cause for SHAME?? How is this a cause for SCANDAL??

    It seems to me that most of America, many of whom have faced EXACTLY this situation, is going to think, “Okay, their business, happy for them.” They are also going to be disgusted that it is the supposed progressives, not the religious folk, who are questioning, and intruding and taking the “snicker snicker, wink wink, slut slut slut” approach, acting like she ought to be embarrassed. They are the ones who are acting like she is some nasty fornicator.

    Who are the Liberals here, again? Fucking hypocrites.

  • John

    My sister became pregnant when she was 15. She had the baby, but due to the pressures of the times (late 60s) she gave the child up for adoption. She and the boy got married when they were 18. They have 3 wonderful children of their own. They have been married for 38 years. He is a network administrator for a company that runs the main-frames for most ATMs on the East Coast. She is a part-time instructor at a community college. Hardly the image of “white-trash”. I commend the Palins for welcoming this grandchild into their family. They are making the right decision. When it comes to judgment, Sarah Palin just proved something to me.

    This life-long Democrat is voting McCain-Palin now. I cannot in good conscience support the sort of low-lifes that make up the Obama supporters. What we have seen on the Internet for the past 36 hours is one of the most disgraceful episodes I have seen in American politics in my lifetime. I will not help these people in any manner.

  • jwrjr

    On this blog Jack is the troll, not the ones who oppose Obama. But he has yet to demonstrate that he can understand such a complex concept.

  • katmandu

    Percent of population having had first intercourse, by age

    http://www.kinseyinstitute.org/resources/FAQ.html

    Males Females

    25% by age 15 26% by age 15
    37% by age 16 40% by age 16
    46% by age 17 49% by age 17
    62% by age 18 70% by age 18
    69% by age 19 77% by age 19
    85% by age 20-21 81% by age 20-21
    89% by age 22-24 92% by age 22-24

    (Mosher, Chandra, & Jones, 2005)

    I think this places things in perspective.

  • Pink Panther

    Yes, very brave of them when people are being evacuated they are protesting. Rather than helping people out of their homes and getting people to safety, the protestors are standing in place screaming like idiots and being non-productive.

    Very brave, indeed. Spoken like a true Obama supporter and fool-aid drinker.

    Obama’s Democratic Party: Home of Sexism, Misogyny, Racism and the Glass Ceiling for Women

  • Donna

    Of course we all know how he tends to exaggerate that, too. Like “I was raised by a single mom who worked and went to school”

    AND
    was remarried when he was two, so she wasn’t too much of a single mom. He’s so full of BS his eyes are brown (and you thought they were brown because he’s black).

  • OMG

    i thought you guys would be on my side here. mabe try to remind me why to vote for her or something, but instead i am called a loser. i never thought you guys would stoop so low.

  • Kim

    I seem to remember a teen pregnancy about two thousand years ago that changed the world.

  • jeronimo

    you don’t like native americans either?

  • Hope Floats

    Can you not do basic math?

    Trig (math, haha!) was born three months ago.

    Bristol Palin is five months pregnant.

    It is a physical impossibility Sarah is actually the grandmother of her own child. She actually sounds like Rose Kennedy now.

    You are one dumb motherfucker.

  • Ferd McBerfle

    That is an excellent reply to those alleged progressives. Kudos to you.

  • Thinker

    Exactly. He keeps playing this good cop bad cop routine.

    Clyburn was sent in to say that Bill was a racist, Powers was sent in to say that Hillary was a monster.
    Goolsby tells Canada that Obama didn’t mean what he said to Ohio voters about NAFTA.

    Then the passive aggressive Barry will come in and say he doesn’t support what people blatantly supporting his campaign, some actually working for him, have said.

    Typical Barry. Change you Can’t Believe in, lol

  • Linda

    Remember, they are the extremists on the left, that support Obama and act just like the extremists on the right that THEY complained about. They are the angry, bitter, self important and righteous, in other words, the ME society. And they were the same ones who didn’t think a woman should be president and are upset that Hillary didn’t leave Bill when he was unfaithful. Don’t you really feel sorry those folks? And I bet 8-10 of the women have husbands cheeting on them and that is probably another reason they are so upset. They don’t do what they tell others to, forgetting that its none of their business or right to tell people what to do. Oh, did I forget, they are also very authoritarian. Did I mention the extremists, the fanatics of the left? :)

  • Anthony

    and your solution is what? abortion?

    I’m pro-choice, and Palin’s daughter CHOSE to have her baby. Screw you and the stuffed pony your ass rode in on.

  • Hope Floats

    She hasn’t had the baby yet and is getting married. Her child will have a father. Even when they were burning women at the stake, it wasn’t for fornication.

  • wry

    Before they whisked her away to a clinic Michelle would’ve straightened her hair and curled it with a curling iron.

  • Ferd McBerfle

    you don’t like native americans either?

    You are not a native; you are a species of android known in these parts as an obamatron.

  • fooj

    They want it to be about ANYTHING ELSE BUT Obama. That’s why they invert themselves to distract (at all costs) the American people from the REAL ISSUES.

    How WEAK of a candidate does that make Obama? The answer will be crystal clear on November 4th.
    It’s that simple.

  • blog force one

    These attacks are going to blow right up in Obama’s face! he has Absolutely NO CONTROL over his OBOMMUNIST THUGS ON LINE AND ELSEWHERE! every good American will only have best wishes for the Palin family regarding this Pregnancy!i just chek’d the fascist Kos site and all of a sudden they are no longer claiming that Sarah is the mother of Trig! Well wadd’ya know! They have screwed themselves so completely with this story ! And the Tsunami of bad news about the ‘one’ is about to hit! Ayers! Rezko! ACORN! Barry Soetoro Muslim prayer, COLB! Whitey tape! and boatloads of other stuff! i can’t wait! i just bought 65 packs of popcorn!

  • Thinker

    exactly.

  • Hope Floats

    So should we impose Sharia law?

  • ohio

    How can we ask other countries to follow our example? Are you kidding me? Let’s see, there are still countries that believe you can give your young daughter away for a cow. Or how about the middle east where there are still arranged marriages. I think the fact that this girl made her own choice says volumes in this area. And again, it’s not Bristol’s name on the vp slot, it is Sarah’s name.

  • roseeriter

    OMG!! You are too funny! It must be great to be you.

  • Anthony

    The above is in response to ALyssa. I think it may have landed in the wrong place, so I apologize if that’s the case

  • jwrjr

    “Pro Choice” means that the woman makes the decision. That is as it should be. She has to live with the decision. She should make it. Not somebody who will not have to live with the consequences.

  • Nicole

    I think it’s great that Sarah’s daughter is having a baby: this brings it out in the open, where it should be. There is no longer a taboo subject, those who think it is haven’t caught up with reality. I also think it’s a bold and enlightened move of McCain’s. Kudos to him.

    Sarah Palin will make an excellent VP, and McCain will suprise everyone by being a far more moderate and inclusive president than he appears to be.

    (And, of course, all the clear-headed people know that the McCain/Palin ticket will most definitely prevail over the Obama/Biden one come November.)

  • Obama Is A Racist and Sexist

    What about Obama with Larry Sinclair? Who can one trust?

  • tillthen

    Basically, its because we don’t WTF you’re saying. What is your point? Do you need help? Medical or psychiatric? Or are you just a young teeny bopper looking for attention. The Palins are fine people. If you don’t like them, go to daily kkos. You’ll find friends there.

    We respect the Palins and wish them the best. Now please go away.

  • just me

    can I share ?? make the popcorn will be right over…

  • JML

    “Had” to get married?

    Ideally, children are raised by two parents in the same household, but nobody “has” to get married.

    In this case, particularly 17-year-olds.

  • Hope Floats

    The convention is this week and has been planned for a while now. The McCain campaign has already issued a very strong statement. Breathe.

  • rw

    Quite liberal today. Tell me about the 1960′s.

  • jwrjr

    Think irrelevant to the topic of this thread.

  • http://IthinkIfeel... Ticia Spiegel

    Yep, Shiloh–I agree. The media just can’t help being sexist. I think they are being harder on Palin than they were on Hillary.

  • dcmediagirl

    When so-called liberals start lecturing a woman about “not being able to manage her own home” or being “reckless” because her water broke while making a speech or that she chose work over family, I know I’ve gone through the looking glass. What a bunch of hypocritical, self-riteous, ignorant a**holes. Sounds like the maddening conversations that I used to be subjected to at Fox “News” Channel.

  • TexasBuckeye

    Alyssa,

    I never said that the teachers couldn’t related to the children. I said they couldn’t give personal advice, they aren’t allowed.

    The sex education curriculum is so politically correct that it doesn’t address individual concerns. It’s a one-size-fits-all curriculum.

    Parents who know the child are in a better position to discuss the details. I don’t want another adult, whose values I don’t know and may not trust if I did, to teach my child about sex.

    Yes, plenty of children are scared to talk to their parents about sex. That applies whether or not the parents are conservative or liberal.

    No, Palin does not want to teach creationism in schools. Look up the facts. She said she isn’t against having a creationism discussion if it comes up in class. She is not a proponent of State-mandated religious instruction.

    You said, no thanks, to teach your child about science in school that you can take your child to Sunday school yourself. That’s exactly my point on sex education. No thanks, teach my child to read, write, add, and subtract. I’ll teach him/her about sex.

  • ohio

    So you know of no one who has gotten pregnant before they got married. I supppose she could have hidden it and took a pill or maybe just had a late term abortion. Would that had made you feel better? She got pregnant at a young age, it’s not the end of the world. It’s not like she was going around with anti-americans and doing crack.

  • Hope Floats

    Not classes. The gym three times a day. It’s important that you fill your day with enough “you” time.

  • RepublicanChick

    Damn…there goes another drink all over my keyboard.

    BAD HARP BAD! :-)

  • Leisa

    Here is one analysis of JMac’s plan.

    http://www.star-telegram.com/news/columnists/steve_jacob/

  • wry

    I think it shows that John McCain has finally got his mojo back, after being devastated by the Bush hatemongers in 2000. If you recall, they started a rumor that his dark skinned adopted Bangladeshi daughter was a “bastard black baby” so he would lose South Carolina.

    The fact that McCain would find out Palin’s daughter is pregnant, and say it is no big deal, says a lot about his character.

    I was going to vote McKinney on GP, since my state will go for Barky any way. I think now I will vote McCain, to register my appreciation for his standing up to the WOMAN HATING left wing.

    You “progressives” are worse than George Bush. There is a God and she will punish you for humiliating a pregnant 17 year old.

  • Cooney

    Bots, men have fought and died for your right to say such vile comments, not only are they vile, but hateful, and downright evil. Your souls are polluted.
    .

  • jwrjr

    Isn’t that $12 a year?

  • Pink Panther

    I’m pro-choice and making a decision to have a child is having control over ones body. I’m really tired of pro-choice people believing that abortion is the only choice under “pro-choice.”

    Obama’s supporters are as closed minded as the pro-lifers. There is something called human decency and Obama and many of his supporters lack it.

    Obama’s Democratic Party: Home of Sexism, Misogyny, Racism and the Glass Ceiling for Women

  • Astra14

    Are you kidding?! Other countries were laughing at us when the Republicans dragged out Bill Clinton’s sex life into the open! Most of them understood that leaders often have mistresses in the closet! They just don’t chose to parade them as a political issue!

  • WMCB

    BINGO. The Democrats are the new prudes. They cannot get over their obsession with our lady parts, and what comes out of them.

  • Hope Floats

    Better white trash a heartbeat away than a closet Muslim black radical criminal already there.

  • http://dontcallmesweetie.blogspot.com/ Blu

    Obama wouldn’t touch this with a 10 foot pole but he has already sent his minion out to smear the Palin family.

  • tillthen

    thanks, Ferdie

  • wry

    With the way that Gypsy Rose Lee Obama is pushing them in front of cameras, they’ll give the Bush girls a run for their money any day now.

  • OMG

    dont you ever accuse me of believing in abortion. also yeah ive heard of people doing that i also heard of people stealing and murdering it doesnt make it right it is still unbelievably wrong.

  • http://www.noquarterusa.net Linda

    Get your facts straight. She is in favor of abortion in cases of rape.

  • Hope Floats

    But wait, Obama gets to be Britney! He’s the famous one who never did anything.

  • tillthen

    Chan, go makee pot stickee and shove up Chinee trashee asshole.

  • Dutch Satterfield

    Sarah has been caught in two lies already. 1. She has denied for months that Bristol is wiht child; and 2. That she was for the “bridge to no where” when she ran for governor.

  • katmandu

    Pregnancy rates from
    http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/2006/09/12/USTPstats.pdf

    Teen pregnancy and abortion rates have been declining steadily. In 2002 the rate of pregnancy among all US women was 75 per 1,000. The abortion rate was 21.7 (per 1,000). Ten years earlier, the rates were 111 and 35.2, respectively. States’ rates vary widely, but Alaska is in the middle of the pack — in 2000 the teen pregnancy rate was 73 per 1,000.

    So 7.5% of females get pregnant in their teens.

  • QUEENIE

    Dear OMG..I believe you are the rat that crawled out of the sewer…

    Do you even fucking know what democratic women have stood for for 40+ years????????

    It is called right to choose asshat..

    Please…. do you start back to school tommorrow???..because darlin you are in dire need of an education!!

    YOU COULD NOT SOUND LIKE MORE INTOLERANT OR INGORANT THAN YOU ARE!

  • CMonroe

    Unbelievable

    What scares me most is that they were trying to hide it until November. If they are so proud of this now, why wasn’t this released before? The only reason it came out now was because the rumors about Palin.

    Not a good thing to have someone in the middle of an ethics investigation being caught trying to cover something up.

    Unbelievable

  • wry

    Damn right, media girl. I think more of John McCain for saying it’s nobody’s business.

  • Carol

    If you want to read what the ignorant posters are saying just go to the Democratic Underground. Be prepared to be disgusted.

  • rabblescrabble

    Ha, Ha, Ha. Finally the Re-thug-licans are getting a taste of their own medicine this election cycle! AND I AM LOVING IT.

    America, selecting Sarah “I’d-Rather-Lead-Than-Take-Care-Of-My-Breed” Palin is just a small taste of the poor decision-making that McCain offers America, if, god forbid, he’s elected president. But wait, as I type this, I can hear a new, and as of yet, undiscovered cluster of cancer cells multiplying in his arthritically, grizzled body…Can you hear it? I think you can.

    So those of you who end up voting or McCain must’ve made peace with the quickening inevitability of a “President Palin,” America’s number one hockey mom, inexperienced politician and favorite creationist, whose two talents so far seem to be popping out babies (but only 4 of them) while simultaneously climbing on the weak shoulders of her promiscuous daughter to get to the White House. We’re going to have to rename that edifice if the Palins move into it: The White Ho’s.

    And I still think Trig is Bristol’s FIRST OUT-OF-WEDLOCK BABY, and the baby that she’s supposedly, currently expecting, will be her SECOND BABY, albeit brought into the world with the first sound it hears being the shotgun discharged by grandpappy at the hootenanny, uh, I mean, weddin’ reception. White trash much?

    All you pro-ruin-a-teenager’s-lifers (I think you call yourselves ‘pro-lifers’?), who don’t want sex education taught, want a ban on birth control, and suddenly find yourselves, in your mid-f*cking-40′s, to be grandmothers, and then, in order to get any moment’s sleep at night while wrapped tight in your Walmart-purchased 40-thread-count bedsheets, have to exclaim how wonderful all of this is, that your teen daughter is taking responsibility for the choices she’s made (how prosaic you can fool yourself into making it sound, when it’s really just a 16-year-old girl, probably high, on her best friend’s brother’s futon. Here’s a math problem, and it’s not Trig: What does “ignorant” and “horny” equal? Give up? Answer: A mid-40′s grandma. Class dismissed).

    Hey all you smarmy, snarky neo-cons out there: When does the “intelligent” part kick in in this “design” you’ve concocted? I’m still waiting for the “intelligent” part to make its presence known. All of America is waiting.

    And then Sarah Palin dares to give a press release today, Sept. 1, asking for PRIVACY in this family matter? A privacy request from the woman, who, if she is elected to be part of the U.S. executive branch, wants to take away a woman’s privacy by telling her what she can and can’t do with her body?

    That’s rich, “Breeder” Palin, really rich.

  • Lucas

    Nice, McCain. What kind of soldier uses a pregnant 17-year-old girl as a political shield? You knew what this was going to do, how it would divert attention away from your policies. You are throwing her under the bus.

  • VMorris

    And like no “good people” could possibly have a daughter get pregnant out of wedlock.

    What kind of judgment does Obama have to choose a drunk as his running mate?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TBNeNHHXEY

    That video is the ultimate in smarmy pandering. Biden is going for the woman and blue collar support all in one drunken ramble.

    I’m with Larry. I am shocked at the intolerance of the so-called “progressives.” If Biden had an unwed pregnant daughter, the lefties would consider Obama’s acceptance and support as “bold and compassionate.”

    The DNC powers that be have exposed the Democratic Party as the Hypocritic Party. They reserve compassion only for those who are willing to join the lefty elitist club.

    We need a strong 3rd party ASAP.

  • rw

    “The same social conservatives who strongly condemned Jamie Spears, Juno and Knocked Up for promoting teen pregnancy and pregnancy out of wedlock will now rally around Palin to show their true contradictory nature.:

    You answered your own complaint: promoting. Contrary to the above, neither Palin nor her daughter are promoting teenage pregnancy.

  • Tuppence 411

    Mandelay- you didn’t get the memo either. Only “perfect” people can inhabit the “perfect” union of Obama Nation: No disabilities, no illnesses, no suffering allowed. Free will is to be outlawed. Only choices pre- approved by the “One” are allowed. All low-information voters are to be re-programed or if unsucessful, placed in the middle of the country where their rights are to be severely restricted. Gun ownership and church attendance will be regulated. Reproduction by permit only. Genetic screening will commence on 1-20-09.

  • JB

    Do we know for sure that Palin told McCain about this? If not that could be a problem, unless she did not know until now, which is not out of the realm of possibilities.

    He says she did, and he didn’t make an issue of it.

  • Leisa

    It is crazy the the party that thought they were more enlightened and progressive can act in such petulant and judgmental ways. They are behaving like Medusa’s parents with the lack of support she had.

    Here is a family in public life that is faced with a family experience that is not uncommon, but still makes one vulnerable to personal attacks. They are handling it with grace and dignity and setting an example to many that our unconditional love for our children is more important than anything.

    Sarah Palin rocks. All children should have such loving parents.

  • bluesmyfavcolor

    The fact that you think it is a blessing for a 17 year old to have a baby is beyond reality. Clearly, you have spent no time with 17 year old girls. They are not adult, nor should they be! She should be going to prom and doing pajama parties with her girlfriends. Not changing diapers and breast feeding. Wake up, people

  • http://www.noquarterusa.net Linda

    Wow Alyssa, you sure are one angry [EDITED BY ADMINISTRATOR] … If this were about a daughter of Obama’s you’d be singing a different tune.

  • tillthen

    Dutch, you’d better go dust off you wooden shoes. WTF are you talking about? I apologize if you are mentally challenged, for I am forever politically correct. Ask, Geronimo and Chan above.

  • wry

    Good point Deb. GOD DAMN AMERICA is a little more shocking to me than ROCK A BYE BABY.

  • http://dwinterling@comcast.net Toby

    Seems like the many conservative and religious people have the most trouble in their families…teen pregnancies, sex problems, alcoholism,evading truths…I guess they don’t practice what they preach….of yes, we’re all sinners…and God will help light the way.

  • http://msnGodhelpusall Lee M

    Alan Combes is a poor excuse for a human being. He is a weasel.He even looks like a weasel. I don’t know how Hannity can stomach him at the same desk.
    As much as I like Sean Hannity, I can’t watch over a couple minutes of that show without turning it off.
    For him to attack any woman about her prenatal care is the height of insanity. Give the creep a ticket to the moon and do us all a favor.

  • http://democratsforrealchange.info Dr. Bobbi Anne white

    yes if the Obama campaign uses this for their smear tactics then it will open the floodgates to smears against Obama’s Mother.
    The only problem I have is, if she’s 5 months, why did they wait so long to decide to get married?

  • KenNOhio

    Barack’s Own Words,

    the most important prevention is education, which should include — which should include abstinence education and teaching the children — teaching children, you know, that sex is not something casual. But it should also include — it should also include other, you know, information about contraception because, look, I’ve got two daughters. 9 years old and 6 years old. I am going to teach them first of all about values and morals. But if they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.

    Just Words

  • TuhTuhTuhTorrance

    I’m still voting for McCain/Palin but this news really makes me nervous. I really hope this doesn’t cost McCain the election. Not sure how long Palin knew her daughter was pregnant but I wish they would have encouraged her to get married BEFORE telling the press she was pregnant. Since that obviously didn’t happen the only thing I can hope for is that Bristol gets married by the end of the month, so this is no longer brought up.
    I do agree with whoever said if the Repubs have the “whitey” tape they should be putting it out now. I know many here don’t think this pregnancy will be a problem but I think it’s best if it gets out of the spotlight ASAP. The only way to do that is to put something out there about Obama.
    I would also love it if the McCain camp put out a statement to the effect of : “We are not sure why so many Obama supporters have taken issue with Bristol Palin’s pregnancy as Bristol hopes her child will turn out to be as fulfilled and accomplished as someone like Senator Obama,he himself a child of a teenage mother.” Heh.

  • Joy

    Now that was funny.

  • tillthen

    The “Young and the Twisted”, new soap starring Lucass and BabbleScribble.

  • PewL

    Well if you want to use Sept 1 st for news…Try and explain the appology from a Dem supporter.using the word God is on Your side..Pathetic,,is he also hiding behind the Gustav news…

    Go Mccain/Palin.

    Clinton was a great person and should have been the nominee..

    Watch the republicans sweep Obama’s As# or Bum after the convention….

    Can’t wait for the debates….Hope Biden is sober

  • fif

    is that a lapdog for the same people she confronted on ethics charges?

  • SJ

    Is it not ironic that supporters of Obama making a fuss over a 17 yr old getting pregnant, it gets even more ridiculous if some of these supporters are AA and posting on here that they are so shocked about the pregnancy.

    I wonder what the statics would looks like as to how many 17 yr olds of AA decent has kids in America, all of a sudden this is a shocker to some, you people are really entertaining at times.

  • Tinker69

    Palin is pro birth control. I don’t know where the lie started she wasn’t. Do a little research.

  • Hope Floats

    I still remember seeing how tenderly Bristol cradled that little baby at the Dayton, OH rally. Even some cynical O bots remarked that she kissed little Trig in a motherly fashion. That’s because she is excited about being one herself in a few months. No one forced her to do nything. She seems like someone who looks up to her mother and couldn’t wait to be a mother herself.

  • http://dwinterling@comcast.net Toby

    Thank you…you have beautifully summed up what I could not.
    Bravo.

  • jo from Alaska

    I am rather shocked at how unkind all the conservative folk are here. FYI, I live in Alaska. Sara has been too busy politicking around the country to raise the children she bore here. Are those family values?

    She advocates shooting wolves from the air.

    She undermined clean water legislation in favor of mining. Children in the bush already suffer more birth defects than anywhere else in the country. More family values.

    She used her position to get someone fired (that’s not ethical). More values.

    Read beyond the newspapers, become more enlightened. Read.

    There’s more to this than meets the eye. Quit being rude to each other.

    She is definitely not qualified to be president or vice present. I know her alot better than you do.

  • just me

    Especially when he turns up drunk?

  • bluesmyfavcolor

    No, she is not

  • WarriorofG-d

    So what ! that is her right. Who are we to judge her decision, Ayssa. I am against gay marriage and I am a democrat. I am against gay programing and I am a democrat. I am against abortion with the exception of children or women rape- but feel that lustful women should be put in jail for abortion. This is my view, so what is the problem with Palin’s view? Are we suppose to follow the sheeps in views? Please- go back to the liberal KOS pool!

  • http://dontcallmesweetie.blogspot.com/ Blu

    I’m sure Obama agrees that Sarah Palin is evil because of this terrible, terrible revelation. I’m hoping he’ll publicly condemn all women who have children without first getting married and all the grandmothers and grandfathers of these children. I’m also hoping he’ll condemn all the men who have sex before taking their marriage vows.
    We need obama to heal our nation and our sinful souls!

    {snark}

  • TexasBuckeye

    So, don’t question the establishment and don’t have discussion about differing viewpoints.

    Okay, got it.

    Reminder to self. Dismiss all other viewpoints. Listen only to those people who agree with you.

  • moi61537

    Pardon me? 70% of African-American babies are born out of wedlock.

  • Jade

    This is a problem. No, it won’t cost the election because Obama really can’t make fun of 17 year old unwed moms (like his mom), but it does cast a doubt on our value system.

    While it is fine to say we support the girl in keeping the baby (who had nothing to do with this), we should examine the situation that got her there so it doesn’t become an example for others that underage and unsafe sex is OK.

    Did mom and dad think that sending kids to church automatically makes them moral? This child was screwing around behind her parents back while they were working. Mom has the highest position in the state, didn’t she once think of mom’s career?

    The sad part is how those who support McCain at any cost attack you with the same tactics Obama Kool Aide drinkers attack those who don’t follow their line of garbage.

    If we don’t recognize this as a moral failing, but one that can be an example to others of what not to do, maybe we can all get past this.

  • tillthen

    Alaska, your Igloo needs air-conditioning.

  • QUEENIE

    OMG MAKES THE OLD BUSHBOTS SOUND LIKE THEY WERE from ..Einstein;s gene poll ..

    OMG ..I am sorry to say..you will not be getting Obama’s two week notice on your firing..

    No severence for you skanky..

    now can we all get back to a grown up conversation..

    can we discuss a real problem..like Obama’s mother and his birth records and our constitution and his eligibility to be our president…

    I wasn’t aware that Bristol was running for office…but Obama is ..

    Where was Obama’s mother and his grandmother when Obama was going through this termoil in his life??????????

    http://www.newyorker.com/online/2007/07/02/070702on_onlineonly_obama

    Pop

    Sitting in his seat, a seat broad and broken

    In, sprinkled with ashes,

    Pop switches channels, takes another

    Shot of Seagrams, neat, and asks

    What to do with me, a green young man

    Who fails to consider the

    Flim and flam of the world, since

    Things have been easy for me;

    I stare hard at his face, a stare

    That deflects off his brow;

    I’m sure he’s unaware of his

    Dark, watery eyes, that

    Glance in different directions,

    And his slow, unwelcome twitches,

    Fail to pass.

    I listen, nod,

    Listen, open, till I cling to his pale,

    Beige T-shirt, yelling,

    Yelling in his ears, that hang

    With heavy lobes, but he’s still telling

    His joke, so I ask why

    He’s so unhappy, to which he replies…

    But I don’t care anymore, cause

    He took too damn long, and from

    Under my seat, I pull out the

    Mirror I’ve been saving; I’m laughing,

    Laughing loud, the blood rushing from his face

    To mine, as he grows small,

    A spot in my brain, something

    That may be squeezed out, like a

    Watermelon seed between

    Two fingers.

    Pop takes another shot, neat,

    Points out the same amber

    Stain on his shorts that I’ve got on mine, and

    Makes me smell his smell, coming

    From me; he switches channels, recites an old poem

    He wrote before his mother died,

    Stands, shouts, and asks

    For a hug, as I shink, my

    Arms barely reaching around

    His thick, oily neck, and his broad back; ‘cause

    I see my face, framed within

    Pop’s black-framed glasses

    And know he’s laughing too.

  • wry

    That’s why she dumped him with her parents and ran back to Indonesia.

  • JimBob

    LOL! The Loonie Left Knows NO Bounds!

    Except, of course, when it comes to their annointed One.

    Speaking of which, exactly where and when was the Messiah brought forth upon the world?

    Nobody knows for sure…

  • wry

    That’s another thing. He slurs his words to me like he’s had a minor stroke. I hope he’s OK.

    That being said, I hope every woman in America learns the way he treated Anita Hill. Sexist Pig gave us Clarence Thomas.

  • SJ

    Why is Palin so dumb her child is being punished with a baby she should do like what Obama says if his daughters got pregnant and punished with a babe KILL IT, KILL IT!!!

    That is BO advice to all young girls that get in trouble, KILL , KILL, KILL!!!

  • Debalee

    Another famous person who had a teenage pregnancy and carried the baby to term only to have him live only two weeks comes to mind: Oprah Winfrey. I don’t expect her to throw stones because she’s not that kind of person. I just mention it to put the whole subject into perspective. Teenage pregnancy is not an indicator in any way of a person’s potential or character, nor is it a reflection of a person’s upbringing, as evidenced by a lot of the comments preceding mine. This election cycle has been like watching a reality show–so much drama: from Jeremiah Wright to John Edwards to Bristol Palin. In all my 61 years I’ve not seen anything like it. I’m glad that there are blogs where all of us can see each others comments, good or bad, from each of our particular views. It helps to share by commenting or just reading the comments.

  • http://www.latinorepublican.com DD

    Like mother like daughter: KEEPING BABIES ALIVE!

    They can’t attack mother, so the Obamanation attacks are launched on the daughter.

  • WarriorofG-d

    Alyssa- I think all the remarks have been noted on this blog as to how we feel about your “forked mouth” comment. Go back to your infested thorny area called the “fighthesmear website”, and deal with it! While you are over there ask Obama if he has ever made it with a man, NOW, that is something to talk about!

  • Ferd McBerfle

    And I still think Trig is Bristol’s FIRST OUT-OF-WEDLOCK BABY, and the baby that she’s supposedly, currently expecting, will be her SECOND BABY, albeit brought into the world with the first sound it hears being the shotgun discharged by grandpappy at the hootenanny, uh, I mean, weddin’ reception. White trash much?

    That would mean that she got pregnant while she was already pregnant. You’re not really up on the latest knowledge on procreation are you?

    By the way, you’re an asshat.

  • Joy

    By the way, I’m sure a 17 year old knows plenty about sex.
    _________________________________________________

    Apparently not enough to prevent a pregnancy.

  • Ferd McBerfle

    or the “Stupid and Listless”.

  • SJ

    The way some people are fussing over this you would swear that this pregnancy is going to stop the first daughter from doing her daily government duties.

    SO much BS over this, so exactly what official duty is it that daughters perform and Bristol if her mother becomes VP will have to leave out from her busy political itinerary.

    Seem someone invented a post and duties for the children of those running for President or VP and did not inform us, so since Bristol would be laid up tell me what functions this pregnancy will hamper.

  • http://www.latinorepublican.com DD

    Remember the “Pimping of Hillary daughter” remark? Well guess what…….the Obama nation is going down the same path with a woman who chooses to keep her own baby. Like mother like daughter. Congratulations on the new bundle of joy!

  • OMG

    but they dont recognize this as a moral failing because some of these people are unmoral and probably did something like this themselves. we have to recognize that many of these people are desperate to believe that they are not losers and will attack anybody who deserves to stand on the higher ground. they want to bring good people down to feel good about themeselves.

  • QUEENIE

    Hey Chan…….

    please refrain from talking about Obama’s Kansas white mom like that!!

  • rabblescrabble

    Tinker69 (is the “69″ freudian? And at what, pray tell, are you “tinkering”?), Gov. “Breeder” Palin is a member of “Feminists for Life,” a group that contends that even birth control pills are “abortifacients” — a chemical that causes abortions — and, therefore, “Breeder” Palin is against birth control pills.

    So, in response to you, doing what I can only conclude was done during some kind of arduous, one-handed typing while you were tinkering away with the other: “Do a little research.”

    The ignorant often refuse to be enlightened.

  • Ferd McBerfle

    Then you’re even more stupid than your posts make you appear to be. Sorry about that, chief.

  • WarriorofG-d

    What is your problem. Hillary stood and took garbage from you cult followers now you want to pick on another woman? You can forget, the grassroots have spoken- they are voting for Mccain and Palin -not that closet homosexual that you worship- running scare aren’t you? That is the point for this selection. You abandon Hillary- we abandon your party- deal with it, koolaid.

  • Northwest rain

    WOW — the mental hospital is missing a whole ward!

    So many self righteous Obamabots have swarmed to NQ.

    Obamabots return to the nut house and line up for your meds — do it NOW!

  • Ferd McBerfle

    The ignorant often refuse to be enlightened.

    And you certainly fit that adage to a tee.

  • RepublicanChick

    ROTFLMAO!

  • QUEENIE

    Ohhh and Chan..make sure you don’t discuss Obmama’s white grand pa and their good friends like you described………..

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/2601914/Frank-Marshall-Davis-alleged-Communist-was-early-influence-on-Barack-Obama.html

    Frank Marshall Davis, alleged Communist, was early influence on Barack Obama

    New details about a black poet in Hawaii who was a key early influence in Barack Obama’s life can be revealed by The Telegraph.

    By Toby Harnden in Washington
    Last Updated: 9:25PM BST 24 Aug 2008

    Barack Obama visited Mr Davis on several occasions to get his advice when he was grappling with racial issues Photo: AFP
    Although identified only as Frank in Mr Obama’s memoir Dreams from My Father, it has now been established that he was Frank Marshall Davis, a radical activist and journalist who had been suspected of being a member of the Communist Party in the 1950s.

    Obama’s true colours: Making of the man who would be US president

    Mr Davis moved to Honolulu from Chicago in 1948 with his second wife Helen Canfield, a white socialite, at the suggestion of his friend the actor Paul Robeson, who advised them that there would be more tolerance of a mixed race couple in Hawaii than on the American mainland.

    A bohemian libertine who drank heavily and loved jazz, he became friends with Stanley Dunham, Mr Obama’s maternal grandfather in the 1960s. Mr Davis died in 1987 at the age of 81, five years before Mr Dunham.

    “He knew Stan real well,” said Dawna Weatherly-Williams, a close friend of Mr Davis “They’d play Scrabble and drink and crack jokes and crack jokes and argue. Frank always won and he was always very braggadocio about it too. It was all jocular. They didn’t get polluted drunk. And Frank never really did drugs, though he and Stan would smoke pot together.”

    While his mother was in Indonesia during part of his teenage years, Mr Obama lived with his white grandparents. Mrs Weatherly-Williams said that the poet was first introduced to the future Democratic presidential candidate in 1970 at the age of 10.

    “Stan had been promising to bring Barry by because we all had that in common – Frank’s kids were half-white, Stan’s grandson was half-black and my son was half-black. We all had that in common and we all really enjoyed it. We got a real kick out of reality.”

    Maya Soetoro-Ng, Obama’s half-sister, told the Associated Press recently that her grandfather had seen Mr Davis was “a point of connection, a bridge if you will, to the larger African-American experience for my brother”.

    In his memoir, Mr Obama recounts how he visited Mr Davis on several occasions, apparently at junctures when he was grappling with racial issues, to seek his counsel. At one point in 1979 Mr Davis described university as “an advanced degree in compromise” that was designed to keep blacks in their place.

    Mr Obama quoted him as saying: “Leaving your race at the door. Leaving your people behind. Understand something, boy. You’re not going to college to get educated. You’re going there to get trained.”

    He added that “they’ll tank on your chain and let you know that you may be a well-trained, well-paid nigger, but you’re a nigger just the same.”

    It has also been established that Mr Davis, who divorced in 1970, was the author of a hard-core pornographic autobiography published in San Diego in 1968 by Greenleaf Classics under the pseudonym Bob Greene.

    In a surviving portion of an autobiographical manuscript, Mr Davis confirms that he was the author of Sex Rebel: Black after a reader had noticed the “similarities in style and phraseology” between the pornographic work and his poetry.

    “I could not then truthfully deny that this book, which came out in 1968 as a Greenleaf Classic, was mine.” In the introduction to Sex Rebel, Mr Davis (writing as Greene) explains that although he has “changed names and identities…all incidents I have described have been taken from actual experiences”.

    He stated that “under certain circumstances I am bisexual” and that he was “ a voyeur and an exhibitionist” who was “occasionally mildly interested in sado-masochism”, adding: “I have often wished I had two penises to enjoy simultaneously the double – but different – sensations of oral and genital copulation.”

    The book, which closely tracks Mr Davis’s life in Chicago and Hawaii and the fact that his first wife was black and his second white, describes in lurid detail a series of shockingly sordid sexual encounters, often involving group sex.

    One chapter concerns the seduction by Mr Davis and his first wife of a 13-year-old girl called Anne. Mr Davis wrote that it was the girl who had suggested he had sex with her. “I’m not one to go in for Lolitas. Usually I’d rather not bed a babe under 20.

    “But there are exceptions. I didn’t want to disappoint the trusting child. At her still-impressionistic age, a rejection might be traumatic, could even cripple her sexually for life.”

  • tillthen

    That is BO advice to all young girls that get in trouble, KILL , KILL, KILL!!!

    What else would expect from a misogynist, an Ivy League quota, tribesman and a poacher? Tea and sympathy? I dunthinkso.

    PS: If you think the Ivy League dig is unfair, then why isn’t he forthcoming about his records at Harvard? Its beacuse he was pushed through, like the shit in a stuffed toilet crying for a plunger.

  • John House

    …You sure about that? He seems to be missing part of his brain.

  • carpetride

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4ZWAUtWQ1Y
    http://carpetride.wordpress.com/

    IN CASE YOU HAVEN’T SEEN THE VIDEO REPLY TO GRETA’S QUESTION YET…

  • rabblescrabble

    mmmm, turd mcbarf, me thinks — shocked — that Bristol’s baby number two will be late in arriving…who knows, maybe it’ll be born on Jan. 20, 2009, when Obama is inaugurated.

    I may be an asshat, but I’m not in denial. pull out your abacus, it’s going to be a baby-bumpy ride!

  • Gregory

    No she isn’t!
    Some people are SO anti Obama (and I don’t plan on voting for him) that they say anything. Also known as verbal diahhrea.

  • Irish1139

    Most of us wouldn’t be here if our mother’s hadn’t gotten pregnant and decided to have us.

  • RepublicanChick

    Another day, the same ignorant post by Jimbo. Congratulations!! You really are a broken record.

  • Brendy

    Wasn’t Obama’s 17 year-old mother 2-3 months pregnant with him BEFORE she married the father??? Nobody in the campaign camp can say anything about this. And, it was ESPECIALLY a scandal to be pregnant and unwed 47 years ago!

    Still, I hate to hear that the young girl is pregnant but very glad she is keeping the baby and marrying the dad. I’ve told my own daughter if she gets pg, then she MUST marry the dad ’cause that’s the way it should be (babies should have both parents) – (yeah, right..like she’ll do what I ‘demand’ – lol!) Seriously, though, I mean it.

  • DisenfranchisedVoter

    It is unfortunate that her daughter is pregnant at a young age but mistakes happen. That’s life. Teenage pregnancy and abstinence has been an issue since the beginning of human life. I think it is time that we have a frank discussion of teenage sex and contraception. It will be interesting to hear what Palin has to say about this if asked in a debate. I’m assuming that she will talk about abstinence only education which I am all for as long as it is combined with education on how to protect yourself from STDs and pregnancy if you do decide to have sex.

    Anyway, it is not an issue the Democrats or the liberal media should use to judge Palin’s fitness as VP. I feel bad for her daughter who will come under a lot of scrutiny and criticism. She’s already going through enough as a 17-year-old.

  • For Impartial Journalism

    Bot-butt, you lost us all when you said 17 year olds didn’t kiss.

    I’m a Republican and was raised going to Church every Sunday (even on vacation) and choir practice every Tuesday night.

    Trust me, Christians kiss before they are 17 and many families end up with at least one teen pregnancy from their children.

    My best friend is an Episcopal Priest’s daughter who had an abortion with one man, got pregnant and planned a wedding, lost that baby but still got married. She is now the mother of a 19 year old still married to the same husband. She has been a wonderful mother.

    Life happens and you accept responsibility for your actions and move on. No good comes from pointing the accusing finger. That just makes you look smaller.

  • Jade

    I think its time for everyone to step back and think about what they are saying here. Many of you have resorted to the same name calling the Obama thugs bombard anyone who doesn’t agree with their attempted theft of the White House.

    OMG appeared to be stating how she finds teenage sex and resulting pregnancies is wrong. She fears that this type of activity may result in Obama winning. She may have a point about wishing sarah drop out, maybe not, but it doesn’t deserve personal attacks.

    Let’s face it, if you had a choice this wouldn’t be something you would want to have happen. We should deal with it as best we can, each with their own moral compass. Hopefully it will result in at least awareness of what happens when immature kids think it won’t happen to them.

    Now let’s talk about all of you name calling supporters. There is nothing wrong with saying an opinion, there is something wrong with being a jerk to someone who expresses it. Obama people are great at it. Don’t fall into their trap and lower yourself to that level.

    All this shows us is that Hillary was the only real good choice for President, and we will tolerate McCain for four years and never let anyone steal the nomination again.

  • Astra14

    CONGRATULATIONS PALIN FAMILY ON THE BLESSED EVENT AND YOUR DAUGHTER’S UPCOMING MARRIAGE!!!

    When I was growing up abortion was illegal, pre-marital pregnancies were still something to be ashamed of (and daughters FORCED to put their babies up for adoption – never allowed to be able to choose to keep them) but thankfully that thinking was starting to go the way of the DoDo bird, and sex was far from openly discusssed like it is now. And that changed! And I’m grateful for that.

    Children are not a punishment, EVER. They are a blessing and Pro-Choice definitely means Choice whether to keep the baby or not. I am happy Bristol has decided to keep her baby! Pro-Choice encompasses also keeping a baby or willingly putting it up for adoption, not just having an abortion.

    America has come along way since in the last 50+ years. We don’t have the same taboos, so Bristol’s pregnancy should be a non-issue today, but unfortunately some if not all of Obama’s supporters seem to think it’s still the Middle Ages. Happily, that’s not the case!!! We old Democrats should be proud of that fact, most of us fought for women’s rights enjoyed by these young kids today.

    The Palin family is facing the same issues the rest of us working parents face. That makes her more human. And I respect them for that even more.

    Yes, there are parents who would even today disown their pregnant daughters or force them to give up their babies, and those families are usually the ones where some type of intervention should be taking place anyway. Those are the extemists. I’m not talking about evangelicals because I’ve known a number of them and they haven’t kicked out their daughters out if they come home pregnant!

    Birth control has been known to fail. It’s never been 100% effective, more like 99%. Even women who are on birth control have gotten pregnant. It’s a fact of life. I won’t touch abstinence only, because before abstinence only my own mother was preaching it! She was a good woman but there was no talk about birth control from her. That was a no-no subject as was talking about sex.

    This is my 2 cents to put into the subject. I know the Obama supporters aren’t going to understand it or will just ignore it, but I put it out there for anyone who cares.

  • Irish1139

    Sometimes we all forget how easy it is to get carried away when we are so young and in love.

    Most of us are lucky. It is usually the good girls who get caught.

  • John House

    The answer would be “Barack Obama’s typical white grandmother”, since it was SHE who raised Stanley Ann…

  • PKJAYNE

    I love your logic Jeremiah!

  • http://democratsforrealchange.info Dr. Bobbi Anne white

    it’s called “the day-after pill.”

  • MCHope

    She is in favor of it only when the mother’s life is in danger.
    It would seem she and Obama are polar opposites on the subject. At least Palin’s stance take the moral high ground.
    Obama’s upport of murdering unwanted infants, even when born alive is reprehensible.
    I have yet to see how Palin’s views on abortion affect her views on states’ rights reagarding it.
    Anyone know?

  • Ferd McBerfle

    You being melodramatic, child.

  • Laura

    I’m very glad you took the time to make that post as your thoughts mirror my sentiments as well.

  • Elizabeth Reilly

    What kind of mother indeed! One who is no different from the rest of us who are only too human.
    It must be wonderful to be as perfect as you. To live in your judgmental world must be very trying on your family, if, indeed you have one!
    Grow up and try to learn at least an inkling of what the real world is all about and shut up with your typical Obama comments. Go to a blog that wants you because we sure don’t. You add nothing to the conversation

  • QUEENIE

    Breaking..

    Breaking…

    Breaking…

    Andrew Sullivan..there is room under the bus for you!!..Move over John Edwards..

  • Gregory

    Sorry, your arguement is shot to HELL. She’s not 18, she can’t vote for the moment and can’t fight in the armed forces- regardless of what will be in a few months. PERIOD! What planet are you on? Better yet, what are you smoking? And do the republicans know what you’re on?
    And yes, she does have a bun in the oven.
    HELLO earth to anti-Obama people. You give NO credibility to your movement (as much as it pains me to say this!).

  • Ferd McBerfle

    You should quit the melodrama there kiddo, and answer my first post. Do you think it is Sarah’s fault her daughter had a baby? If you do, just exactly when does a person accept responsibility for their own actions?

    I just think you’re a paid Obamabot who strayed off topic and will now be re-programmed because of it.

  • tillthen

    Oh Blu, I’m in tears over your pleas to the One. They are so moving and you’re right we need him to heal our nation; but first, I think he should take a big, big shit, lest people think he is so full of it.

  • Mercedes

    I think I understand. This election is about alot of things. Anybody who has ever even tiptoed around official corruption can probably understand how fundamental personal and governmental integrity is to accomplishing anything. They would also know how much personal courage it takes to confront corruption and how difficult it is to overcome it.

    This lady has shown that she has what it takes in her official life and after 3 days as McCain’s designated running mate, she’s also shown that same courage in her personal life.

    Obama keeps throwing people under the bus. He appears not to have any convictions whatsoever. His main character trait is compulsive lying.

    I’ll take the lady from Alaska any day.

  • Karma

    Congrats to the entire Palin family.

    Congrats to Bristol on your future bundle of joy.

    ~~

    Seeing Bristol with her brother was heart warming as he snuggled and slept in her arms while the crowd cheered the moment.

    The Kos crazies had to attack a young lady to wreck that image. And when wrong, still attack her on the corrected facts.

    How vile! Even worse the news is that Obama will let the MSM do his dirty work for him.

    Hopefully, after Pres Clinton, he is smart enough not to work up an attack memo for a teenager.

    Either way, when the 527s start in on O-thin-skin…he will get a taste of his own medicine.

  • Diana

    Ditto, and she comes from a good family that will stand behind her. My daughter got pregnant in her senior year in high school, she was 17. Then gave birth to her daughter when she was 18. She’s a great mama. Breast fed her till she was almost a year. Got a job, paid for all her clothes, her medical. Of course I’m a little bit prejudice when it comes to her. I think it was something in the water. Her, and all her freinds did, but she didn’t allow it to stop her. Nor did any of her friends, they are all business owners or went on to college and have great jobs. She and her husband own two businesses. One they just do for fun, and when they want to. The other they’re doing great in. They recently had a baby which was a true blessing after what she’d just been through less than 2 years ago. Now they’ve informed me they want one more. They also just had their home built, which I’m jealous over, she has kitchen cabinets galore. You can never have too many kitchen cabinets. ;)

  • QUEENIE

    ahhhhhh Brendy…Obama’s father was already married…

    but who is checking any facts or records…who’s vetting anyone anymore?????????

  • cochise.

    I just realized something.

    Most of you f***ers are, and have always been, republicans. Libs would never say what you f***ers are saying.

  • Amanda

    You’re a moron. What about lustful men whose sexual acts result in pregnancies? Where is the proof that lands them in jail? You’re sexist, plain and simple, and the further we come from your point of view, the better off we’ll all be.

  • http://wiskeytangofoxtrotoscar.blogspot.com/ James (San Jose)

    And Public Health officials are in almost lock-step agreement that schools need to educate the children because they are not getting informed at home.
    If the parents are ignorant about sex, they can’t teach their children. And ignorant children get into bad situations.

    Every other industrialized nation has comprehensive sex ed in their classrooms. Results: significantly lower teen pregnancy rates than the U.S.A.

  • http://www.latinorepublican.com DD

    http://a831.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/114/l_c6472138ab0aeef683fa26a0e48a464e.jpg

    If democrats will attack a Clinton, they will attack anyone.

    The Obama nation is going down a dangerous path.

  • Elizabeth Reilly

    No, Palin does not want to ‘teach creationism in schools’. What she said was that she thought it could be good to expose students to a variety of views on the beginnings of life. She said that she would not mandate that school boards teach creationism. Get your facts straight.

  • KenNOhio

    Believe me. This is not the last surprise of the election. I call on the GOP to unload everyhting they are holding onto for the October surprise next week after the convention. The rumors that prompted this announcement cannot be forgotten.

  • OMG

    please stop putting down people of any faith and using bad examples of people pretending to have morals and murdering their own children as some type of example we should follow.

    many families also end up with at least one person on welfare too.

    i myself didnt have my first kiss till after 18. i am now succesful as a model and actress, living a good life with more than i could ask for. which way do more people end up? mabe they should follow my example and be a good person.

  • Gregory

    No actually I am VERY pro-choice and a democrat even if the party left me. I support a woman’s right to choose (but at 17, one is not a woman legally and in this case she is forced to follow Mama’s voice- which is clearly NOT hers!). I support limiting gun ownership and gay marriage. Sure, crazy person, this makes me a republican. NOT!

  • Diana

    Comment by Alyssa
    What kind of mother raises a daughter that gets pregnant at 17 outside of wedlock?

    Obama’s mother. If this is such a problem for you, why are you voting for him?

  • Ferd McBerfle

    OMG is being disingenuous, as best. I would like HER to answer my original question about her original post.

    This isn’t about Sarah’s morals, child. The daughter is responsible–not the mother. When are you youngsters going to understand that you can’t blame everything on Mommy and daddy?

    She did not answer but used the patented misdirection strategy used by all Obamabots when confronted with their prevarication.

    So maybe she’ll answer but I bet she won’t because she wasn’t privy to the talking points necessary to properly respond.

  • Amanda

    Alyssa, you have very valid points. Don’t listen to these lemmings. They’ll eat up any old shit the conservatives puke up.

  • just me

    you know you know just words

    Just BS Just BS

  • http://democratsforrealchange.info Dr. Bobbi Anne white

    Trig was born 4/18/2008 more like 4 months
    Highly unlikely that Bristol would be the mother of Trig.

  • rabblescrabble

    oh, turd mcbarf, it’s telling that your name is “mcbarf,” because all you seem to do is arrive as an echo chamber, regurgitating, but in the negative, a progressive’s correct-minded position.

    it’s time you think about pulling your head out, or, while you’re still in that anal cavern you call your own, look for a way of expressing your own thoughts in an articulate manner, instead of grunting your way as a remedial adjunct to an already well-expressed opinion.

    so what’s say you let me do your next post for you: “i’m rubber, you’re glue…”

  • savage

    A question for the Palins: Your pregnant daughter “plans to marry the father.” That’s nice. Plans are great. I have long-standing plans to ass fuck Brad Pitt myself.

    But does that horny kid of yours—the one you worked to protect from medically accurate sex education—plan to get married before the election? She could get married this afternoon. Quickie wedding, down at city hall. But if she wants a big wedding, well, that takes some doing. If that’s what she wants, Mrs. Palin, will you be able to take care your new infant, plan your daughter’s wedding, and run for Vice President all at the same time?

    And if you and John McCain lose this election—or, hell, even if you win—what do you think the odds are that your daughter’s plans might change? Any chance that she’ll decide not to marry this Levi person after all?

  • Mr. Natural

    Here’s a newsflash, rabbleBabble

    A lot of us belong to organizations with whose policies we do not completely agree.

    For example:

    I remain a registered democrat even though I do not believe in nominating frauds and assholes for president.

  • http://wiskeytangofoxtrotoscar.blogspot.com/ James (San Jose)

    Why are you whining about this? This is just sauce for the gander. KOS is going sleazy as a rejoinder to NQ and other sites going sleazy. This site spent months on the garbage of the CLOB and “the tape” Shoe, meet other foot.

  • Gregory

    Unless the holy spirit (and I’m pissing myslef with laughter as I write this) filled her up too, she’s had sex. That was a personal choice (and GOOD FOR HER, I LOVE SEX). A boy (not a man) is involved too. That makes it her responsability. Gosh, no wonder our Hillary lost if her supports are REALLY this stupid!

  • jangles

    Give me a break. Look at the family of FDR, JFK, Bush I— look at sex and politics on both sides of the aisle. When I look at this, I think at least the Palins seem to have a set of principles about family values that they really live by and they are really a “real” American family who have struggled with some issues that most American families can relate to. There must have been some real pain in this for them and they are trying to do the most loving thing. That is hard for every family. I note that they say their daughter decided to have the baby which seems to indicate that they also gave her the option of not doing so.

  • ObamabotHQ

    Alyssa, you have very valid points. Don’t listen to these lemmings. They’ll eat up any old shit the conservatives puke up.

    You were instructed by the Obamabot of the day to never use the word lemming as it reflects poorly on our duties. Return to HQ for re-programming.

  • Joy

    There was nothing that suggests her daughter was counseled on an abstinence-only birth control method. She just decided she is ready to grow up and be a woman.
    _________________________________________________

    I think we can safely assume she was not counseled on an abstinence only birth control method and getting pregnant while in high school is certainly grown up.

  • Mr. Natural

    And I for damned sure do not believe in hiring low rent babblers like yourself to shill, even if it’s only for a fraudulent asshole like Obama.

  • KenNOhio

    Your first paragraph says everything we need to know about you sir.

  • For Impartial Journalism

    Sounds a lot like “Springtime for Hitler in Germany”.

    Obama is Less than Zero.

  • OMG

    you are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. it is not Sarahs fault her daughter is a bad person. but sadly it does reflect badly on us as a country that she will be on the worlds stage representing the children in america so poorly. i wish Sarah’s daughter was not so terrible but she is and now we have to pay for it.

  • KenNOhio

    You are a perfect example of what happens when 1st cousins marry.

  • http://democratsforrealchange.info Dr. Bobbi Anne white

    Biden is getting more and more ashamed of what he has descended each day

  • QUEENIE

    Oh my..words can not express the stupidity of the Obamabrats…

    quote rabblescrabble:
    “Ha, Ha, Ha. Finally the Re-thug-licans are getting a taste of their own medicine this election cycle! AND I AM LOVING IT”

    go ahead ..go after McCain for being anti- choice…….now…….

    you dumb fuck obamabots..you just gave McCain the White House!
    It’s called ..checkmate…….

    and this is what you get for following an empty suit with zero experience..and zero history and zero lack of records.. that the empty suit refuses to release.

    you obamabrats are really ignuts!

    psssssssssssss..obamambrat and “new democrat”..every democratic woman has fought for the privacy of her own uterus..and the choice to choose..what she does with her own uterus..and her body..John McCain just honored that!

    Obama is quoted as saying if his daughters got pregnant before marriage it would be a mistake…who’s pro choice now??????

    Doesn’t that make Obama a mistake ?????? More of the same (& platatudes )from the self annointed Messiah !
    Blah blah blah……….

  • ohio

    Dutch, she wasn’t for the bridge to nowhere but for states’ infrastructure as a whole. Get a clue. I don’t think she was covering up this pregnacy either as the McCain camp knew already. Next, oh and dont forget to pick up your consolation prize on Nov 5th. McCain/Palin

  • Gregory

    I don’t give a flying F…Oh course conservatives get pregnant (too bad, it leads to their reproduction). Some people are REALLY STUPID (like those who answer posts with non-responses in order to create drama). No wonder the choices are between McCain & Obama. And I actually supported Hillary with these same ding-dongs. I swear, some of you are worse than Obama cheerleaders.

  • rabblescrabble

    what a relief, mr. natural.

    then can i assume you won’t be seeking elected office?

  • ObamabotHQ

    You still haven’t answered my reply, twit.

    And the answer is because your cult programming does not include an ability to interact well with others. Your posts are only pre-programmed histrionics thinly disguised as an actual response to a post.

    It must suck to be an Obamambot.

  • QUEENIE

    Hey Lucas..why does Obamamessiah use all you little boys to attack what this young lady has chosen as her right..

    Go away little boy..we women can make our own choices and Mccain agree’s with us..the Change I Can Believe In ..McCain/Palin 08..
    for this democratic PRO – CHOICE woman!!!!

  • http://democratsforrealchange.info Dr. Bobbi Anne white

    the jewish community already loves her for this quote “straight out of Lubavitch: God will never give us something we can’t handle.”

  • Sam

    I think she may have been commenting on this evangelical holier than though stuff, and maybe how there is a chance (or at least perceived by some) that she was less than vigilant about her daughter’s activities. If we don’t want schools teaching morality then we parents must assume the teaching.

    Let’s face it, it would have been a lot easier if Bristol was a virgin.

    Now please let’s go back to our purpose and not attack everyone we think may have a different opinion of the significance of this news.

  • Gregory

    Then let the GIRL (she’s a MINOR FOR PETE’S SAKE, not a woman in the eyes of the law) have a REAL CHOICE and not save face for her parent’s campaign. Obviously they have different opinions on sex outside of marriage (GO FOR IT!!!) So why wouldn’t their points of view on abortion be different?!

  • http://hillaryorbust.blogspot.com Hillary or Bust

    The good news with this is that most of the media is focused on the hurricane, which looks thankfully not too damanging…all this Palin/baby stuff will literally blow over…

  • TexasBuckeye

    rabblescrabble,

    Hide behind a keyboard much?

    You’re the perfect example of the ignorant, uneducated, misinformed, hatemongering, thugs who hide behind white sheets to protect their identities while they preach hate and attack others who are not like them.

    If anybody deserves an ass-kicking by a gun-toting, Bible-clinging, grandpappy, it is YOU.

  • jangles

    There is nothing wrong with discussing creationism in schools as a system of thought about how the world came about. My own commitment is that it should be taught as a system of “belief” which it is and not as science which it is not. What I read on Palin and creationism is that she thinks its ok for it to be taught in schools but alongside evolution . If the distinction is made that evolution is a scientific theory and creationism or intelligent design are “beliefs” which are not science since they are not about systematic inquiry and proof, then I think ok. Epistemology is a valid area of inquiry and learning.

  • just me

    the advise my parents gave me fell on deaf ears…..

    no point in advising you as we know you will only do what you want in the end!

    wonder how many teenagers added this level of listening or advise to life??

    well we see it daily for the Obama followers life is a canvas we as individuals throw as much paint as we want at it.

    Life’s a trip~~ what you achieve and do with it is down to each of us, no amount of words or advice will make a difference.

    This is how we all grow…… Experience makes us evolve……

    Best wishes to the Palin’s

  • http://hillaryorbust.blogspot.com Hillary or Bust

    Bringing a child into a tabloid-esque mudslinging is wayyyy over the top and highly offensive. What Michelle Obama says is fair game. But bringing in a candidate’s child and raking her over the coals? NOT COOL.

  • young mother strict parent’s

    You sound to me like a very hard embittered woman. You were very strict and probably have an old momma’s boy today. How dare you attack a woman of such quality-I’m sure you judge everyone harshly and think only yourself perfect. This woman loves and values life so much that she had her own child even when it had downs syndrome and doctor’s urged her to abort it. This is a woman with a strong heart-something I fear you lack. Your children I’m sure were very obedient and are probably today angry, embittered like yourself and boring as hell,as are you.You would put women back a thousand years. Perhaps you had the opportunity of a rich husband to take care of you while you watched the children at home. Lucky you. For most women it’s a tremendous struggle to balance having to make a living because of the expensive world we live in. For the highly evolved intelligent woman like Sarah Palin, the challenges are even greater because you see all of the inequity in the world and feel it your duty to change it to make a better life for your children and others children. You should be thanking her for the hard work she’s done of beating the good old boy network at their own game and helping all of the citizen’s of Alaska financially. They love her.
    For your information I was a mother at seventeen. I was raised by very strict parent’s who allowed me to go nowhere, kept very strict tabs on me and taught me that boy’s were bad. Believe me they were the ideal strict parent’s. In spite or perhaps because of this, I met a seventeen year old boy and because I’d never been taught anything about sex thought I couldn’t get pregnant. Well, I did and decided to keep my wonderful son. Having him changed my life forever. He was my best friend for life until his recent accidental life. Maybe you should stop being so harsh on others and take a look at your own life. Is it perfect, or is that your problem. You’re so bored that you spend your time attacking others. Sarah Palin is great for her family and a great woman to help run this country!

  • Irish1139

    I will say it again, most of us wouldn’t be here if our mothers hadn’t gotten pregnant and decided to have us. If you are the oldest child in a family, check with your mother to see if she wasn’t pregnant when she married your father. You might be surprised.

  • ohio

    So I guess that means that Michelle and her two kids are in fair play now?

  • tillthen

    Cochise, why are you so angry? I voted for George McGovern, but there’s no mother-fucking way I’m voting for the Muslim, Obama…and ya’ know what? I jus’ luv Sarah. She is one tuff dude and ready to kick ass in DC…and yes, I’m now a Republican, albeit not a happy one. Peace.

  • Amber

    I commend OMG for sticking her neck out and trying to express an opinion how she believes this news may affect this race. It may. The personal attacks are despicable. Having a young person appreciate the virtue of not falling to the temptation of underage sex is not something to attack. While not every underage mom has a hard life, for everyone that is successful I venture to say there are at least 5 that are doomed to a life of struggle if not poverty. We all know examples of those who succeed, but way too many of us also know examples of those who fail. None of this has to be about a right to choose. Its about common sense as well as morality. Let’s be more tolerant of those who fail while we applaude and not condemn those who choose to wait.

  • Diana

    Why is it you seem to think that Republicans hold anything that is religious? Including all religous beliefs? The Jewish population? By the majority are Democrats. The Catholic population who are pro-life. Majority Democrats. Keep on with your nonsense and chase anyone with any religious beliefs from the Democrats and that word will be a word no more. They’ll be considered the 3rd party. In this country there are still more than 80% that hold a belief in a higher being. A God. Now look at the breakdown of the parties, do you really think they are all Atheist? Is that what you want us to believe? In order to be a Democrat you also have to be an Atheist? 80%

  • http://www.despair.com/changewinds.html Smilin’ Jim

    “Senior McCain campaign officials said McCain knew of the daughter’s pregnancy when he selected Palin last week as his vice presidential running mate,”

    “Well, he would (say that), wouldn’t he?”.

    Mandy Rice-Davies

    Being “behind her 1000%” was both risque and already taken.

  • wry

    I love how they call Sarah Palin “white trash” because she will become a grandmother at 44. Barack Obama is 47. His grandmother is 86. She was a grandmother at 39.

    Never mind how many of the women Barack Hussein senior impregnated who were teenagers.

    Glass houses once more.

  • tillthen

    Chrisssy Felon, and what does your pussy smell like, Obama’s turds? Congrats, you have won the POBA, Puke of the Blog Award. Your parents must be so proud of you.

  • http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/080820_NBC-WSJ_Released.pdf trixta

    Actually, my husband and I (both progressives) disliked the movie JUNO, primarily because it was just too cavalier about teenage pregnancy, wrapping it up in a veneer of wit and coolness. As it is, many teenage girls have a romantic view of pregnancy, but to pass it off as a COOL thing too is just irresponsible. (This said, I believe in the writer’s right to free speech.)

    Yes, the film featured the informative and poignant theme of open adoption and the complicated issues thereof, but come on, June was put forth as a kind of sassy, angst-ridden roll model which has great appeal to teenagers.

    After my husband and I saw the film we just looked at each other in amazement. The thought of our teenage nieces and other pre-pubescent girls seeing this movie was quite disturbing.

    In any case, I support Palin’s CHOICES for her and her family. Her daughter’s pregnancy is very familiar to many and makes her all the more real and likable!

  • kavala007

    Big deal. Life happens and we all know that. McCain made a good choice. Sarah Palin is a the real thing and is refreshing change from all the nonsense of the DNC. There has been no vetting of their selected one by either the DNC or the media. Pelosi just “believes” God sent him like Fowler believes God sent the hurricane. Such hubris!!

  • tillthen

    Meeting this guy’s parents would be more fun than going to the zoo. He’s so efffffing stupid. LOL.

  • Above My Pay Grade

    I hope the Obamabots don’t try to use this to trash McCain/Palin, as Barry was clearly conceived out of wedlock, when his mother was 17.

    Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. and Stanley Ann Dunham were married on February 2, 1961, just 6 months and 2 days before Barry was born on August 4, 1961.

    I wonder if Barry believes his mother was “punished with a baby”. I’m sure he is glad she didn’t think so.

  • Ferd McBerfle

    If you were a real liberal, you wouldn’t be posting such tripe.

    I know liberals and you’re no liberal.

  • Seattle Moss

    “He was my best friend for life until his recent accidental life.”
    I know you meant to say his accidental death which has been devastating to both of us.

  • fooj

    Number one… I was NOT a Hillary supporter. I support ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE. You know, a democratic process! Number two… It is you who displays your wanton ignorance by emphatically proclaiming that the responsibility lies solely on the young woman. Number three… WHO THE FUCK ASKED YOU ANYWAY? How does this involve YOU personally in any way, shape or form?

    I’m certain the Palins waited desperately by their phone hoping that YOU would shower them with your wisdom before Bristol and the “boy” made this personal decision. How did they survive without your neanderthol input?

    “Our Hillary”??? I just about wet myself when I read that. Hillary supporter, my ass.

  • Ferd McBerfle

    The only “facts” you know are those coming from your other personalities.

    If shit were brains, you couldn’t fill a good-sized toilet with the crap in your skull.

  • rabblescrabble

    The term “grassroots” is a function of the progressive ideal. Conservatism is anathema to “grassroots.” For what is there to change if what you already have, you want to make sure stagnates? That’s the point of conservatism: to keep things as they are. There is no room for “grassroots” in your model.

    So McCain holding the Re-thug-lican Party hostage with his unvetted choice of Palin is hardly any kind of “grassroots” movement.

    Oh, sure, you can smile, tap dance, say a few “hallelujahs” and quote a few lines from the Bible about the prodigal child or goats to be slaughtered, and then you can follow it up with a few high-fives on how this is going to teach a lesson to the Democrats (what lesson I haven’t figured out yet), telling anybody who’ll listen what a great family values family the Palins are for standing by their ignorant, promiscuous, and exploited-for-a-politically-hungry-parent child, but you know that McCain could’ve and should’ve made a better choice. That is, if he really cared about this country. So now you’re thinking: DOES he really care? And you’d be right to ask.

    I was a Hillary supporter even after she gave her delegate votes over to Obama on August 28th; I was still determined to write in Hillary’s name on my November ballot, even if it meant that my vote would not be counted. Such was my resolve to let my party, the Democratic Party, know how strongly I supported Hillary.

    But when McCain chose “Breeder” Palin last Friday, August 29th, and expected every Hillary supporter who owns a vagina to rush to the polling booth to pull a lever for Palin, well, that’s when my vote went solidly and forever to Obama.

    So keep cheering, glassy-eyed, at what a “great choice” McC*nt made — because you and I both know you don’t believe your own rhetoric and you already realize what a big mistake McC*nt made when he selected “Breeder” Palin as his running mate. On a world-wide scale, and that’s what it is, because at this stage of the game we ARE playing for keeps, It was selfish, short-sighted and, ultimately, careless to gamble so cavalierly with the future of America.

    Can I have a “hallelujah”? Or maybe a “God Bless”?

  • Patrick

    More evidence to the fact that McCain has hit a grand slam. Bristol’s pregnancy was a WELL KNOWN FACT in Anchorage/Wassila. Everyone knew and thought, well, it’s No Big Deal. McCain knew, the town knew, the state knew…no one cared. But the left attacks in horrifying ways.

    http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1837862,00.html

    Take care,
    Patrick

  • http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/080820_NBC-WSJ_Released.pdf trixta

    Remember, they all would have liked to vote for a woman, just not that woman (referring to HRC). Looks like women who don’t think like the Ozombies are “that woman”!

  • Camden Rave

    “I have said before and I will repeat again, I think people’s families are off limits, and people’s children are especially off limits. This shouldn’t be part of our politics, it has no relevance to governor Palin’s performance as a governor or her potential performance as a vice president. And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories. You know my mother had me when she was 18.”—-Barack Obama

  • Ferd McBerfle

    Obamatrons:

    If Gov. Palin shouldn’t be the VP choice because her DAUGHTER is pregnant, then Oblahblah should not be POTUS because he was born out of wedlock.

    One or the other, bots. If one is disqualified, both are. BTW: Your bus awaits.

  • McKatmoon

    Here is what your leader said; so you need to go home and get reprogrammed, buh bye

    “I have heard some of the news on this and so let me be a clear as possible: I have said before and I will repeat again, I think people’s families are off limits, and people’s children are especially off limits. This shouldn’t be part of our politics,” the Democrat said forcefully. “It has no relevance to Governor Palin’s performance as governor, or her potential performance as a VP. And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories,” he continued.
    The candidate who himself was born to a teenage mom, reminded reporters, “You know my mother had me when she was 18, and how a family deals with issues and you know teenage children, that shouldn’t be the topic of our politics and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that’s off limits.”

    embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/09/01/obama-says-palin-pregnancy-off-limits/

  • McKatmoon

    Here is what your leader said; so you need to go home and get reprogrammed, See ya

    “I have heard some of the news on this and so let me be a clear as possible: I have said before and I will repeat again, I think people’s families are off limits, and people’s children are especially off limits. This shouldn’t be part of our politics,” the Democrat said forcefully. “It has no relevance to Governor Palin’s performance as governor, or her potential performance as a VP. And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories,” he continued.
    The candidate who himself was born to a teenage mom, reminded reporters, “You know my mother had me when she was 18, and how a family deals with issues and you know teenage children, that shouldn’t be the topic of our politics and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that’s off limits.”

    embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/09/01/obama-says-palin-pregnancy-off-limits/

  • fooj

    Fuck off, Gregory. You have no idea who you are toying with. Wanna get de-balled, big guy? Keep the insults coming, jackass. I’ve been looking to parade someone’s head on a stick for at least a week now.

    Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

  • http://msnGodhelpusall Lee M

    Lobo, I think you should change your name to LOCO. Your posts are asinine and if I hadn’t already left the Democratic Party because of Obama, Dean, Brazile and Pelosi, I would have to leave it not to be in the same party as fools like you. Get a life!!!!!!!

  • jangles

    Perhaps Sarah Palin accepted the VP challenge because she believed that in the best tradition of American politics, especially at the presidential level, candidate’s children would be off limits. Perhaps she agonized over it and the Palins had a family discussion about it and perhaps her daughter said, Mom this is a great opportunity and honor for you and I will be fine. Do it.

  • McKatmoon

    Cochise,

    Apparently your leader agrees with us, leave now

    Here is what your leader said; so you need to go home and get reprogrammed, buh bye

    “I have heard some of the news on this and so let me be a clear as possible: I have said before and I will repeat again, I think people’s families are off limits, and people’s children are especially off limits. This shouldn’t be part of our politics,” the Democrat said forcefully. “It has no relevance to Governor Palin’s performance as governor, or her potential performance as a VP. And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories,” he continued.
    The candidate who himself was born to a teenage mom, reminded reporters, “You know my mother had me when she was 18, and how a family deals with issues and you know teenage children, that shouldn’t be the topic of our politics and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that’s off limits.”

    embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/09/01/obama-says-palin-pregnancy-off-limits/

  • rabblescrabble

    Texas *uckeye, look deep into my eyes and tell me you really think “Breeder” Palin’s the best choice for VP. This, in a time of a wrong-headed war, near-recession, rising food and gasoline costs, and increasing unemployment rates.

    If less of us were afraid of an ass-kicking by the aforementioned Bible-thumping grandpappy and, instead, spoke truth to power, we wouldn’t be in the mess we’re in.

    And the “white sheets” you refer to are one of several talismans of the Re-thug-lican Party, not the Democratic Party. Otherwise, why do southern Re-thug-licans tug so heartily to their Confederate flag?

  • QUEENIE

    reply to PINK PANTHER…

    Yes Obama’s mother did get pregnant to an already married man..doesn’t that smack of polygamy ..she married an already married man..evidently he had a family already in Kenya..so is Obama an illegitimate polygamist son?????

    Why we don’t know because the Messiah sends his pigs to attack others while being the coward of all cowards ..hiding his own records.

  • http://bluelyon.wordpress.com bluelyon

    She has the kind of mother that demonstrates that sometimes holding a principled stand isn’t easy, but it is worth it anyway.

  • McKatmoon

    Bleach Please.

  • ford

    Rabblescrabble,

    Anytime someone uses the world “Woman” and “breeder” in the same sentence, I can pretty much guarantee, there is nothing else I need to know about that person.

  • McKatmoon

    Go back to home base, you are in need of a reprogram.

    “I have heard some of the news on this and so let me be a clear as possible: I have said before and I will repeat again, I think people’s families are off limits, and people’s children are especially off limits. This shouldn’t be part of our politics,” the Democrat said forcefully. “It has no relevance to Governor Palin’s performance as governor, or her potential performance as a VP. And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories,” he continued.
    The candidate who himself was born to a teenage mom, reminded reporters, “You know my mother had me when she was 18, and how a family deals with issues and you know teenage children, that shouldn’t be the topic of our politics and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that’s off limits.”

    embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/09/01/obama-says-palin-pregnancy-off-limits/

  • TexasBuckeye

    Every other industrialized nation has comprehensive sex ed in their classrooms.

    Really? China? Japan? Russia? Middle East countries?

    Results: significantly lower teen pregnancy rates than the U.S.A.

    Research suggests that teenage pregnacies have more to do with poverty than lack of sex education.

    Research also suggests that sex education programs do more to reduce disease than teenage pregnancy.

  • fooj

    Stain on his shorts that I’ve got on mine, and

    Makes me smell his smell, coming

    THIS WAS PRINTED IN THE NEW YORKER? OMG. Obama composed this poem? I teach English and I’ve analyzed many pieces in my day. This is chilling.

    Why is everyone focusing on a private Palin family matter when the Democratic “Selectee” created a piece as revealing as this? I have no words.

  • http://N/A breeze

    This is one more way for a lot of us to relate to the Palin Family:

    Millions of us have experienced the same thing
    with our own daughters. We coped with it, too.

    Another reason to relate with Governor Palin.

    No matter how open I am with the abortion issue,
    I was very happy that my barely 16-year-old decided to not go through with it, even ‘though
    I did give her the option….

    I raised that grandchild. She is 25-years-old
    today, happily married and has gifted me with
    two beautiful and loving great-grandaughters,
    5 and 7 who make my ‘golden years’ totally happy!

  • Ferd McBerfle

    Your lack of intellect indicates you’re not even 16. The daughter’s pregnancy is irrelevant to the issue of her qualifications to be VP. That is elementary logic. Why would Gov. Palin have to pay for something her daughter did? Is not the daughter responsible? Again, you are being irrational.

    I guess if you, OMG, do something stupid (like post here trying to persuade real adults to follow your pretend Messiah), I guess your parents should be the ones to apologize for and address to us your illogic.

    So I think you need to give us all their address so we can give them the flack that in reality should rightfully go to you.


    But that would be silly, which is exactly what your argument is.

    See how logic works, child?

  • Dennis

    I love the connectives who when one of their number has a pit fall they justify it. Its OK with us if she has a baby out of wed lock, but none of you fags can get married. Rush is a drug addict “Poor gut he needs help”. I bet she is off the team for personal reasons. She did interfere with her former Brother-in -law getting fired. That will be next.

  • rabblescrabble

    Queenie, seriously — you’ve used your entire ration of question marks that each of us is given when we’re born. You’re officially out of them. You have no more to use.

    Now, instead of using those bruised and abused question marks, how about instead writing something of substance. You know, text. Words. Subject and Predicate. Hell, throw in a few adverbs. That’s it, knock yourself out. I, that is, the American people, knew you could do it.

  • McKatmoon

    The mother ship calls, buh bye:
    You need to be scheduled for a re-program.

    “I have heard some of the news on this and so let me be a clear as possible: I have said before and I will repeat again, I think people’s families are off limits, and people’s children are especially off limits. This shouldn’t be part of our politics,” the Democrat said forcefully. “It has no relevance to Governor Palin’s performance as governor, or her potential performance as a VP. And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories,” he continued.
    The candidate who himself was born to a teenage mom, reminded reporters, “You know my mother had me when she was 18, and how a family deals with issues and you know teenage children, that shouldn’t be the topic of our politics and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that’s off limits.”

    embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/09/01/obama-says-palin-pregnancy-off-limits/

  • http://msnGodhelpusall Lee M

    To OMG; Just what century are you living in? Do you ever read a newspaper? Other countrys have their own standards and most of them are way below ours.
    Why, in God’s name , would we care what they thought? It is Sarah Palin who is the candidate, not her daughter. Besides I can think of a lot worse things that some teenagers do besides having premarital sex.

  • Ferd McBerfle

    Your post may be good for a church sermon but we have more important problems at hand which need our attention. OMG is an obamabot and we don’t have time for the contrived melodrama.

    What we do have is a bad candidate that goes by the name of Obama to defeat in November. The rest is just diversion.

  • rabblescrabble

    darn, and i was so looking forward to penciling you in for a lunch date next week. oh well. i guess i’ll just have to chalk it up to two ships that passed in the night…

    do you have a brother?

  • rabblescrabble

    Well played, Savage. Well played.

  • fooj

    If I hear one more person say “Obama doesn’t have it in his DNA to be mean and nasty” I’m going to hurl.

  • Ferd McBerfle

    And you’re the Whaler, right?

  • http://chriss chris

    How come it’s ok to slam a 17 year old who isn’t running for anything, but no one in the msm has shown or talked about the lovely Biden videos where he runs around obviously drunk? He IS running to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency and is supposed to be advising OB on foreign policy etc. How come more is not being made of this which seriously could be dangerous? What is wrong with these people to pressure this kind of cruel garbage and not talk about something that is truly a potential problem for our country? Can we not blast this all over the place and force the msm to take notice? I can’t believe I’m living in reality right now. I keep thinking I’m going to wake up but it hasn’t happend yet. Yikes.

  • rabblescrabble

    KenNOhio, who died and made you the forum police? Please, oh please, stay in Ohio. Never be “KenNNevada” or “KenNVermont.” Promise me that.

  • Inhumancannonball

    My father is a doctor who promotes no smoking, low fat diets, no alcohol and lots of exercise.

    I’m 20 pounds overweight, got drunk last night and quit smoking only last year. Does that mean he is an ineffective doctor that should be disqualified from practicing medicine?

  • fooj

    Wow. Sure adds more depth/understanding to the poem published by The New Yorker, doesn’t it.

    God help us all.

  • rabblescrabble

    ah, mcbarf, we meet again. are you, perhaps, the brother?

    you rogue, i guess i could see myself as rabblescrabble mcbarf…it has such a nice ring to it, actually. pa will be so proud!

    quick, strap on your overalls and meet me at bergdorf’s…weeze agonna register for china, i reckon’!

  • QUEENIE

    ahhh Gregory..I have sat on a jury for statutory rape..in Johnson County Kansas…even in Kansas..17 is not considered a child or minor ..that would be 16 and under..to be considered a minor for Statutory rape.

    Please stop your bullshit and saying shit you haven’t a clue about.

    And psssssssssss Gregory ..each state has different laws..but I know you didn’t know that with your incredibly sparse and little knowledge…and bold attention to how little you dooo know.

  • Ferd McBerfle

    The significance of this news is zero (0)–the big fat nada.

    OMG, Sarah Palin lets her children run outside in bare feet sometimes. OMG, Sarah Palin lets her children have cookies before dinner sometimes. OMG, Sarah Palin has cats. OMG, Sarah Palin belives in childhood vaccinations.

    Christ, people, enough.

  • OMG

    FERD– you are an idiot you make assumptions that have no basis in reality. what i was saying was bristols imorality may reflect on sarah which may reflect on mccain in the eyes of some people. this worries me because this is going to be a close election and we cant afford to lose any votes to obama. not everyone knows how evil obama is and something like this could be just enough to sway the undecided…pardon me for being concerned.

  • Ferd McBerfle

    Rabblesquabble: Your posts only shed heat on a subject and no light to speak of. You’re a flamer and a poor one. You can shove off any time troll and take OMG, Friz, Kelvin, Debbie, Free-dumb, UCBM, and any other bot I haven’t listed with you.

    Kindly go lower the collective IQs over at HuffPo for a change. They need you.

    Buh-bye

  • Dosha

    Stop it.

  • mimi

    The Jamie Lynn comparison just won’t fly. Try again.

    Jamie was a teen celebrity with millions of very young girl fans. The complaint was that she would set a bad example to her adoring impressionable fans who might want to follow in her footsteps not understanding that Jaimi by virtue of her celebrity status and wealth, would have a much easier time caring for a baby, even if she was immature.

    Bristol Palin is not an icon. She represents the millions of young girls in average families struggling with issues of sex and morality. Also, at 17, she is almost of legal age. Jamie was 15 when she got pregnant. The difference of 1 or 2 years in your teen years is light years. Thirteen year olds have nothing in common with 15 or 16 year olds. At 17, you’re in a holding pattern waiting to become legal. Americans have created a society where teens are openly sexually active. What? You think birth control is going to take care of everything? Birth control often fails. And some girls want to become moms as soon as they can. I personally don’t recommend it, but at 17 going on 18, there’s not a whole lot a parent can do in this permissive climate with a girl who longing for a baby and not interested in school and career.

    This is where feminism failed. It failed to take into account the natural urges of females and males and instead was determined to push an agenda based on the wonders of the modern independent working women. Some women just want to be moms, have a husband and live a family centered life.

    To each his own, I say.

  • http://N/A breeze

    OMG,

    So: “Sarah’s daughter is a bad person”,
    tell me what you think of OZero’s mother
    getting pregnant by a MARRIED MAN!!!

    Answer that, you sanctimonious fool!!!

  • Diana

    Here’s another great one from one of our posters. Obama supporters were here the other day saying they booed her, they did no such thing. I’d like for one of them to point out one time when Palin talks about Hillary them booing. People were standing up and screaming. Waving their flags. Pretty damn sad when she gets paid such a great tribute from the other party. When her own party treated her with such disrespect.

    http://tinyurl.com/6j7a8c

    I love you Hillary!!! You’re still the best to me!
    PaulFVillarreal, fantastic video!! Thank you!

  • McKatmoon

    Is that you Little Debbie?

  • Seattle Moss

    You are anti-American scum!!
    I have taken some of your posts and look forward to showing them to people so they can be reminded of how vile and immoral you and all Obamabots are.

  • QUEENIE

    WOW HE WAITED 4+ HOURS TO CALL OFF HIS THUGLETTES….seems his little henchkids are opening a can of fucking worms for him!!!!!!!!

    Wonder why he is now worried about others families rights..ahhh yeah..i can assure you it is his own closet he doesn’t want looked into..

  • fooj

    It wasn’t Sarah Palin’s “secret”. It was her daughter’s issue.

    I’ll tell you what’s UNBELIEVABLE. It’s unbelievable that the Democrats have stood by silently while a “Selectee” has been IMPOSED upon us with ZERO VETTING whatsoever. That’s what’s unbelievable.

    Have you ever asked yourself WHY that might be? it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure it out.

    As far as “ethics” go, I have no problem with an ELECTED Governor removing a known ABUSER who was already on suspension for tasing his 11 year old son and beating the shit out of his wife. Those types of “law enforcement” officers are a danger to the community. Give it a fucking rest.

    Come back when YOU have some answers (not just bullshit spewing propaganda) about Obama and his many, many mysteries. BTW- The Little Lord just released a statement…seems that he wants his little henchmen to back off this topic. Amazing. He has NEVER done that before. Wonder why he issued such a forceful statement? Nevermind.

    He’s no idiot. He knows this opens up a HUGE can of whoop-ass…and it won’t be directed towards the Palins.

    Checkmate.

  • OMG

    of course thats awfull.

    what makes you people think i would ever vote obama. i have never said one kind word about obama.

    Hillary where are you!!!!!!!

  • rabblescrabble

    mcbarf, did you just get too tired of repeating what everybody else was already saying?

    maybe you should ask for a thesaurus this coming christmas. words matter. and there’s always time for you to build up a better vocabulary, no matter what anybody says.

    but truly, mcbarf, let’s not say good-bye, just so long.

    was it real? was i just dreaming? i’ll always think of you fondly, sweet prince (princess?).

  • QUEENIE

    UNDER THE BUS FOR ANDREW SULLIVAN..BYE BYE ANDREW…ENJOY YOUR STAY UNDER THAT BUS.. but you will be with all the little monsters you helped create..sorry no nose plugs for you..i want you to enjoy the stink..of each and everyone of these little pricks you created…you and Obama ..

  • rabblescrabble

    well then be sure and show them those polaroids of bristol “in flagrante delicto” when you get to the “immoral” part of your presentation. it’s always good to have a well-rounded discussion.

  • tillthen

    Alan Colmes is still getting his ass kicked on his own web site, this even after pulling his original idiotic post.

    Have fun: http://www.alan.com/2008/09/01/what-i-said-and-what-i-did-not-say/

  • Jim S

    As I read the posts from the Obots, I wonder how many would be around if the morning after pill were available 30-40 years ago. Better yet, I wonder how many parents wished they had it and had taken it when they saw what brain dead, shallow pieces of shit their kids had become.

  • Ferd McBerfle

    FERD– you are an idiot you make assumptions that have no basis in reality. what i was saying was bristols imorality may reflect on sarah which may reflect on mccain in the eyes of some people. this worries me because this is going to be a close election and we cant afford to lose any votes to obama. not everyone knows how evil obama is and something like this could be just enough to sway the undecided…pardon me for being concerned.

    OMG, ad hominem abusives are only allowed when you’re sure of what you write.

    You said originally:

    i was so exited. dont call me an assbot for having morals i believe and follow!!! just like 90% of america that wont vote her now.

    You implied you wouldn’t vote for her because of an illogical reaction to news that was entirely irrelevant.

    And I said you were illogical and it must be true because you didn’t even bother to respond to the points I brought up. Your original post was melodramatic. We don’t have time for it, Kiddo. You’re in an adult’s world now, time you learned how to be one.

    I’d say my opinion backed up by logic along with 50 years experience behind it beats your 21 (or whatever your real age is).

    So who’s the idiot, now? You are.

  • QUEENIE

    that igloo needs exterminating..and a strong room freshner!

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    The point is, it is a PERSONAL decision. It’s not up to anyone but her to decide if she’s blessed, punished, or something in-between.

    The governor’s daughter made her PERSONAL decision. And good enough for her.

    I don’t recall seeing the name of BRISTOL PALIN on any ballot, or placed in nomination at any convention, so my view is that this private citizen/teenager should be left the fuck alone to the extent possible, given her now-famous parent.

    She needs all the privacy she can be afforded at this stressful time in her young life.

    I know McCain didn’t like it when his special needs daughter got raked over the coals by Bush. Even the media had some “fun” with that “illegitimate black baby” nonsense. I’m sure that his thoughts went back to that time when he was vetting Palin. SHE’S the candidate–not her teenaged daughter.

  • McKatmoon

    We speak out and we are rude sometimes. Our site, and we aren’t telling you how to talk, just sayin.

  • NoBAma

    Alyssa, stop spreading lies and distortions for the Obama thugs.
    Palin has a right to her beliefs just like you do.
    She has not used her office to legislate her beliefs. Do some homework before you come here and spread lies.

  • Ferd McBerfle

    Unlike you, I don’t use cut-and-paste when I go for the jugular. Had you actually been around this blog for any length of time, you would have realized that.

    Words do matter, that is why I wonder how you made it beyond the second grade with your atrocious diction and limited vocabulary. While such abilities are sufficient for your lot in life as an obamabot, soon to be panhandler on skid row, it is not sufficient when debating personages such as those who frequent this website. You are a 25-watt bulb on a 100-watt board and it shows every time you post your pathetic attempts at sarcasm, wit, or (shudder) charm.

    No, you are a mere babe in the woods, a lackey, a wannabe. I would discuss these things with you further but there are other, more deserving obamabots that await me in verbal jousting. You’re good for a few laughs but not much else.

    Buh-bye.

  • LandOLincoln

    Todd Palin is a Native American–an Inuit– and Jeronimo is very likely Hispanic. Jeronimo is Spanish for Jerome.

    So I guess that makes Jer and tillthen bigoted assholes, doesn’t it?

  • QUEENIE

    Hey rabblerouser…

    Did you not notice..I am the Queen..I can use as many question marks as I want..because I said so..no one else owns my soul..I get to do what I want..I don’t sign loyality oaths..I am the boss of my nation…just as everyone in the Nation I live in is..opps ..did your messiah forget to tell you that?????? Your king is not my king..I run my nation…Therefore I am Queen.

    Hey little minion..your bossman ..has called all you skanky little cockroaches back to the nest ..did you miss the memo?????????

    But watch out now..there is a bus awaiting you..and Andrew Sullivan has a gift package for you..it may not be what you were expecting…you see, your boss can easily replace skanky cockroaches..you are less than nothing to him…he has proven he would throw his grandmother under the bus..and you think you are safe???………

    ahhhhhhhhhhhh..fools are easy to replace.

  • bmc

    Oh, ferchrisesakes! If this is an issue, this country is in bigger trouble than I thought.

    Who gives a damn about Bristol being pregnant at 17? I mean really. She’s going to get married, she’s keeping the baby, and millions of people do it every year. Does it disqualify the governor of Alaska to have a daughter who’s pregant?

    bwahahahahahah….

    WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THIS?

  • LilRod

    LIFE happens

  • QUEENIE

    hey concise..no darlin..this lady was a dem delegate…sorry to burst your little skanky cockroach piss for brains..

  • rabblescrabble

    Well then, Gov. Palin’s “when a doughnut and a hotdog are married and want to express their love physically, as any good perishable food item eventually does” speech must not have been completely understood by her daughter. Perhaps Gov. Palin herself needs to “bone up” (pun intended) on the “sex” part of “sex education.”

    Maybe it’s time that we have a statewide, Alaskan town meeting to discuss, not “the birds and the bees,” but “pastries with holes in them and meat products shaped like a tube,” so as not to offend the conservatives.

    Here’s a conservative parent’s feelings on teaching teens about sex: “Why do we have to talk about sex when teaching our children about sex education? It’s those darn liberals who’re making us talk about it. If it weren’t for them, my daughter and/or son wouldn’t notice that their bodies are changing. It’s because of the Democrats that my daughter/son is discovering the changes in their bodies. Ignorance is bliss. Now, pass the Velveeta!”

  • Tyrione

    May the DNA God Bless them. That’s the extent of it. [the converse of God Bless for us Agnostics]

    At any rate, John McCain may have admired Reagan but neither Reagan nor George W. Bush are actual traditional Teddy Roosevelt Conservationists [Conservatives].

    McCain is far more of the old GOP. That’s what seems to be confusing Coulter and others. The GOP, just like the DNC sheds it’s skin from time to time.

  • QUEENIE

    hey Savage..it is none of your god damned business..isn’t that what we dem women have fought for for 40+ years..to get everyone out of our uterus’s..and our fucking bedrooms and business..get the fuck out of here you pathetic Obama cockroach!

    Obama training camp is calling all you COCKroaches back to your skanky nest…look out I am turning the lights on and I have a big giant can in my hand..pssssssssssssssssst

  • TexasBuckeye

    Raising the costs of doing business in the United States causes American companies to cut jobs and/or send them off shore.

    Rising gas prices causes the price of everything else to go up. If you use it, wear it, or eat it, a trucker probably drove it to the store from which you bought it. Raise their costs – raise yours.

    Rising gas prices are the result of two things: environmental restrictions and unethical human greed/corruption.

    Obama’s policies will raise costs for American companies and prevent increases in American oil supplies.

    McCain’s policies will decrease costs for American companies and increase American oil supplies. Palin has significant experience in reducing government spending and fighting greed/corruption.

    Feel me looking deep into your eyes when I say, yes, I think Palin is the best pick for VP.

    Intimidation and hate-mongering are bi-partisan tactics.

    You still deserve an ass-kicking from Bristol’s gun-toting pappy for the despicable lies you’re spreading about Bristol and Sarah Palin. Actually, it’s more likely that Sarah Palin would do the ass-kicking.

    But by all means, speak your truth into the power of corruption, greed, and hate.

  • QUEENIE

    ABOVE MY PAY GRADE…SIGHT PROBLEM THOUGH ..OBAMA’S DAD WAS ALREADY MARRIED AND REMAINED MARRIED WHEN HE SO CALLED MARRIED OBAMA’S MOM………..

    THAT IS CALLED POLYGAMY………

  • QUEENIE

    ABOVE MY PAY GRADE…SLIGHT PROBLEM THOUGH ..OBAMA’S DAD WAS ALREADY MARRIED AND REMAINED MARRIED WHEN HE SO CALLED MARRIED OBAMA’S MOM………..

    THAT IS CALLED POLYGAMY………

  • rabblescrabble

    queenie,
    you are a kingdom of one.

    you have only two brain cells, and they’re fighting each other and sadly, each is losing the good fight.

    go back and read your words…you sound like you’re continually gagging on a tube sock…you can’t be comfortable. perhaps you need better lumbar support?

    or, to put it in “queenie-ese”: arrggggh????????? aughhghekh!!!!! obamamamamamamamabots!!!! blechhhhhhhhh???????

    ‘nuf said.

  • James Duncan

    Dear OMG,

    I am sorry to say your have somehow caught the wrath of a pseudo-intellectual, self proclaimed “scientist”, who roams boards such as this to proclaim superiority in vocabulary if not wit.

    This person, like many who only have a life on the Internet is afraid to use his or her own name (I don’t know what a Ferd is), due to some other deficiency. Perhaps it is being 50 and not having a life, perhaps it is an unfortunate malady such as eating a thesaurus for dinner.

    Only Vulcans run their life on pure logic and deny there is emotion in many of life’s choice. This person is just trying to bully you into not expressing your opinions.

    You have a right to believe premarital and underage sex is immoral, just like Ferd is allowed to think it is irrelevant to the election. Only time will tell, though I fear your concern are more valid and may cost some votes for McCain, hopefully a lot less than the choice of Palin will gain.

    Not every Hillary or McCain supporter is an insensitive jerk who has a need to put down anyone who does not march to their drum. Many of us are backing McCain only because he is the lesser of two evils. Some because they believe he is actually OK. The important thing is to keep Obama from winning, a sentiment you embrace and lost to Ferd because it was not unconditional. Good for you.

    As you go through life there will be people who think that because they are 50 and learned more “big words” they are superior in rational thought. Memorization is not the measure of true intelligence, it is analysis, and that is only learned by not accepting what 50 year old bitter people claim to be undeniable truth and research it and then make a well thought out conclusion.

    I hope you maintain your belief in moral standards, not allow jerks to intimidate you from your right to expression, and not think everyone here is mean and nasty. Please continue working for stopping Obama and his thugs from taking democracy away from the people. He succeeded in doing that to Democrats but we can’t let him do that to America.

    And to Ferd McBerfle, for someone to complain that OMG is wasting your time, why do you continue to respond? Where is the logic in that? And why does anyone have to respond to you at all? You are the one who sounds like an Obamathon.

  • http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/080820_NBC-WSJ_Released.pdf trixta

    Obama gets worst presidential nominee of the entire history of the U.S.!

  • QUEENIE

    REBBLEROUSER…

    No honey it has nothing to do with braincells ..it has to do with a little document ..that begins with ….
    “We the People”..

    you might try reading it one of these days..sorry you missed my point..but i had no doubt you would miss the point..!

    Enough said..now go do some fucking reading.
    Your ignorance is blinding you.

  • http://www.bristolpalinpregnant.com/ Bristol Palin Pregnant

    The fact that the 17 year old unwed bristol is pregnant goes to show the abstinence only education does not work and we need more!

    Bristol Palin Pregnant

  • Lis

    Leave this child alone, she’s not running for VP it’s her mother. Just because Sarah has a daughter who is pregnant has nothing to do with her being qualified to do her job. A new baby is a blessing from God but Obama thinks it’s a punishment.

  • TexasBuckeye

    You think Bristol got pregnant because she didn’t understand her mother’s sex education speech?

    Ignorance is bliss. Have some chips with your queso.

  • rabblescrabble

    but wait, mcbarf isn’t gone!

    mcbarf, then why are most of your responses, at least on this forum, to me, your rabblescrabble? i’ve seen none of your “verbal jousting” on your other posts to others, none of the facility you claim to possess. what are you saving it for? out with it, man (or woman)! braggart and imposter that you are, i think i’ll have to wait a good long time for such a display.

    admit it, i’ve chapped your hide what with all the sense i’m making.

    and here’s where you mccain drones make your mistake: there are millions of us who are not voting for mccain, not because they are, in your rustic term, “obamabots,” but because they see the danger in voting for a man (mccain) who would select palin as his VP.

    a person not voting for mccain is not necessarily an “obamabot” (oh, that feels so good to type). millions see mccain for the poor decision-maker he is and rightfully choose to not want him as their president.

    so keep minimizing the millions who aren’t voting for mccain for a million different reasons, by just calling them “obamabots” — it helps my party, the Democratic Party, to be underestimated by your ilk.

  • Joe Johnson

    And you do such a good job of defeating Obama by picking on someone younger than you and claim intellectual superiority…..you just set us back a lot by making McCain supporters sound like bitter old men.
    You don’t get to pick what is important and what isn’t. If you want that job get your own blog and censor the comments before posting. If you are too lazy to do that, just deal with it. If you don’t have time, don’t answer.

  • Mavis Parvin

    For someone so busy defeating Obama you sur write a lot of garbage.

  • Mavis Parvin

    now is that a nice thing to say?

  • republican4life

    Wow, aren’t you perfect. Teen girls sometimes get pregnant no matter how great or bad their up bringing. Kids don’t always listen to parents!! At least she is taking responsibility and not aborting her child. Good for you Bristol!!

  • Tuppence 411

    What did these Obots expect of Governor Palin? 1.) Lock her daughter in a closet and do daily chasity belt checks? Or 2.)force feed her birth control pills, perhaps force her to under go a minor medical procedure like an IUD insertion? Neither option is acceptable or realistic. Once again, women are being painted into a “damn if you do, damned if you don’t” scenario.

  • Lis

    When Obama’s mother got pregnant it was a disgrace because most girls back then waited for marriage. The father was even a married man, which is something no one did in the small town I lived in.

  • just me

    Comment by OMG | 2008-09-01 14:41:24

    you are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. it is not Sarahs fault her daughter is a bad person. but sadly it does reflect badly on us as a country that she will be on the worlds stage representing the children in america so poorly. i wish Sarah’s daughter was not so terrible but she is and now we have to pay for it.

    Have you looked at all the bad people in Obamas camp? now they are bad people the country does not need…

    Do not think we need to worry over Sarah’s daughter

    Your words are Despicable?? Did you read them?? WTH

  • republican4life

    love your comment…couldn’t have said it better!!

  • Hope Floats

    But the fact that Bristol chose to have her baby and was not forced to by her mother, the fact that no one mentions the father, the fact that the family chose to support her decision… none of these are valid points.

  • Kevin

    Maggie,
    hate to clue you into this little known fact..
    hope you’re sitting down..

    17 year olds do sometimes have sex

    And sometimes, they get pregnant

    that’s ok, breathe.

    I know its shocking

    You’ll be fine

  • Hope Floats

    Maybe she had an assistant fill out that questionaire, and that’s not her handwriting even if it looks like it.

  • rabblescrabble

    good to see my message to worked: no more tube sock speech impediment. doesn’t that feel better?

    i read all the time. even rants like yours. that’s what’s great about being in America…you’re allowed to be an idiot and others are allowed to waste their time and read what you, the idiot, has written.

  • Hope Floats

    Perhaps when the state starts issuing licenses to procreate and marry, this nonsense will pass.

  • rabblescrabble

    it’s true. mcbarf even knows how to spell “liberal.” i can vouch for him.

    hey mcbarf, is this an example of that “verbal jousting” of which you spoke earlier? mmmmmm, not so much.

  • Jackie

    Fathers can also play a very big part in raising a child so to blame the mom is an ignorant sexist stance.

    Teens make choices that mom & dad don’t like. Ann Dunham was 3 months pregnant when she got married.

    Miss Palin made a choice and is taking responsibility for her actions.

    We should respect her right to choose life for her and her baby.

  • QUEENIE

    The kind of mother that raised Barack Obama?

    and then abandoned him!!

  • Hope Floats

    I don’t know about you, but I’m thrilled that a wino is a heartbeat away from having his finger on the red button.

  • Hope Floats

    And really, you want to talk about promoting the rising stars and change and hope and youth. Does it get any better than this?

  • QUEENIE

    and watch out for Biden’s tongue..he likes to mouth kiss alot…

    about Biden and Jeff Gannon..well i will leave that up to you to google..

  • imustprotest

    OMG Maggie! And they accuse us PUMAS of being republicans! How judgmental of you!

  • fooj

    It also never occurred to that dimwit Markos that by choosing Palin, McCain effectively neutered any “abstinence only” programs in the future.

  • fooj

    Hey jeronimo…

    Little Lord COCKroach has called all you cockroaches back to the cockcave. Apparently, you all missed the “crossing over the line” instructions at the “Obama Camp”. Oops. Hope there’s enough room under the bus…

  • fooj

    What a crock of shit. EVERYONE in Alaska knew about her daughter. They just sat back and watched you morons make complete asses out of yourselves all weekend. How’s THAT working out for ya?

    BTW- King Cockroach has summoned you all back to the cockcave. Run along. Hope he’s not armed with a giant can…BWAHAHAHAHA!

  • Jackie

    Me Too.

    Thanks for your voice.

  • QUEENIE

    or an american bomber ……..these little cockroaches have no idea what rights we women in this country have fought for all these years..thati suppose is why Brazile called it the “new democratic party”..the old democratic party members fought for exactly what Mccain just did by naming Palin..a Lady who loves her children and who’s daughter is pro choice and chose to have her child..

    but don’t worry..that new democratic party that pissed all over women..now loves people who bomb this country (AYERS)and rob our childrens educational funds (ANNENBERG CHALLANGE MONEY) ..and allow women and children to freeze their asses off in the winter in Chicago…right in his district…while he plays footsie with a crook ( Rezko) and buys a house while people freeze..with that crooks money..which probably was not even his money or his wifes because neither had that money at the time..

    sometimes the best thing about prosecutions is ..canaries sing……..

  • fooj

    You’re a rude, rat bastard. Is that what they teach you at “Camp Obama”? A little word of advice…

    Little Lord Cockroach will turn the can of RAID on all of you if he senses that you have become a liability. Recent history proves it.

    Have a wonderful evening. Please extend my best to all in the cockcave.

    xoxoxo’s!

  • QUEENIE

    as the law stands it is choice..Bristol had a choice..end of story.

  • fooj

    Knock yourself out, asshole. Are you deaf, dumb and blind or JUST dumb? King Cockroach has summoned you all. Your instructions to insult and degrade have been called in. Off to the cockcave you go…

  • Hope Floats

    Maybe she wanted to get pregnant. She wouldn’t be the first crazy teenager in love. Sarah Palin gave a great response.

  • fooj

    It’s simple. ANYTHING but Obama. As long as he has his little cockroaches running around defending him they don’t have to answer any valid or thoughtful questions. It’s pathetic, really.

    I still want to know why he is so secretive about all of his records.

  • Hope Floats

    It certainly makes you grow up fast, if you’re not yet.

  • http://msnGodhelpusall Lee M

    You should be terrified. With a brain as mushy as yours, you should be terrified that you will be put in a padded cell. I,too, am a cancer survivor. After a mastectomy and five years of chemotherapy and radiation treatments I have been now diagnosed cancer free. I’m still rarin’ to go and defy anyone to critcize me for once having had cancer.
    When it spread to my lungs and then my spine I thought I was a goner but I didn’t give up. I have been without treatments now for two years and I can only say that I admire John McCain for all he is doing and for his choice for VP. An old Indian proverb—never judge a man until you have walked in his shoes.

  • Hope Floats

    That was cold. :)

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    My understanding is that she didn’t even go that far.

    What I read that she said was that the topic should not be prohibited IF a STUDENT RAISED THE QUESTION.

    She did not say teach it, she did not say insert it into the curriculum, she said it shouldn’t be “verboten” like some sort of Third Rail, if someone in the class brought it up.

    Which is sort of logical, really. Aren’t people generally suspicious when they’re told they CAN’T talk about something?

  • fooj

    Watch out, missy! I can’t see through that blinding light shining from your halo!

    All hail the righteous! Give me a break…

  • Joy

    I think applying for absence only funding from the Feds qualifies.

  • Hope Floats

    She will be 18 when she has her baby. That means when she is a mother, she will also be a legal adult. The age of consent in Alaska is 15. She could get legally married at that age, if her parents supported the decision. But no one forced her to do anything. She had sex with a boy she loves. The law says she was old enough to make that decision. Now she is getting married. When she delivers her baby, she will be a legal adult. Dumbass.

  • QUEENIE

    God help us all is right,.,..I wonder about the girl in this story…and the coinsidence of her name……..

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    I come from a locality where there’s EXHAUSTIVE sex education in the public schools.

    There’s also a shitload more teen preganancy than there was back in my day, when there was very LITTLE sex ed.

    It’s “fashionable” nowadays for kids to fuck. Accidents are going to happen.

    When I was young, it was less common for young teens to be screwing around. The ones that did it were considered “rebellious” …and of course, they were also often the ones who SMOKED!

    As Lois Griffin said to her son Chris in a FAMILY GUY episode…. “If she smokes, she pokes!”

    :mrgreen:

  • joe

    Alyssa,

    Who are you to judge a woman and her parenting ability because her 17 year old daughter became pregnant? I swear, some people (on both sided of the political spectrum) are so judgmental and they should spend that time looking at others examining themselves. They probably have tried and do not like what they see.

  • Hope Floats

    Any “boy” ca make a baby – we’re talking about teenagers here – but it takes a “man” to be a father. Isn’t that how it goes? So far, so good, though. Bristol and Levi are getting a crash course in adulthood. It seems once you get potty training down, you can join them in growing up.

  • GetOverIt

    what records are you referring to?

  • Jackie

    Mrs. Palin is for contraception and her daughter chose to have her baby.

    Get over it folks.

  • Joy

    Then she gets an A in getting pregnant 101.

  • Jackie

    Mrs. Palin is pro responsibiliy. She is also a supporter of birth control. She is against abortion except in the case of life of the mother.

    Get your facts straight.

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    She’d be unique in that she could get pregnant with kid number two before she delivered kid number one.

    I notice there’s no “Gee, we fucked up” from the Obamabots. They’re just disappointed that the Governor wasn’t lying, and trying to make the “best” out of young Bristol’s situation by making vicious remarks about her personal decision and her private life.

    I wager if anyone started raking Obama’s kids over the coals, they’d be screaming bloody murder.

  • Hope Floats

    Making love to your cute BF before you’re married is not “screwing around” which implies promiscuity. In fact, Bristol’s mom married her high school sweetheart, and she turned out fine. I think young love is beautiful, and I won’t judge here.

  • chandler

    Ask Stanley Ann Dunham., she was pregnant with Barack at 17

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    They usually swarm when BO has taken a hit in the polls…they’re like clockwork.

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    They usually swarm when BO has taken a hit in the polls…they’re like clockwork.

  • OMG

    abstinence is 100% effective

  • Hope Floats

    I’ll sum it up in less than a novella: “Women should be at home birthin’ babies not competing in a man’s world.”

  • Joy

    One would hope but not always the case.

  • rabblescrabble

    wow, fooj. talk about aggression!

    howze ’bout you go to your nearest army recruitment office, enlist, start and finish boot camp, and then head on over to iraq…you’re wasting your talents here, in front of a keyboard, with the amount of potential for violence you’ve handily displayed.

    truly, dubya needs you.
    in iraq.
    now.

    then the rest of us posters won’t think you’re a hypocrite. so get that can of raid, tuck in your cape, and take an e-ticket to iraq!

    the non-green-zone awaits.

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    :mrgreen: Heheheheheheh…. :mrgreen:

    High school “sweathearts!”
    :lol:
    I guess high school kids do have a lot of energy, don’t they? They probably did work up quite a sweat, as well! Of course, that’s their business!!!

    The inability to edit posts on this forum certainly makes for some inadvertently amusing comments!

  • Hope Floats

    When people sell their souls, they sadly often think they’re getting a bargain.

  • Kelvin Hearts PUMAs

    Palin hires a lawyer for Troopergate:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/01/palin-hires-lawyer-for-tr_n_123016.html
    It’s getting deeper.

  • rabblescrabble

    f*ck-king cockring:

    where’s this mythical “cockcave”?

    is it just slang for your anal cavity and the vessels that periodically occupy it?

    tell, tell.

  • Hope Floats

    Obama was in the US Senate for 140 days before running for POTUS, but Sarah Palin – who has only met McCain once and has not been stumping until three days ago – has been too busy running for VP. That’s really fucking funny, “Jo.”

  • http://NoteToSelfDontDie.com/members/ gerard McNedich

    maybe Obama is trying to distract everyone from this gem that Biden produced:

    http://israelinsider.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=2018399%3ABlogPost%3A5227

    a. hillary
    b. mccain

    america first!

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Keep defending a state trooper who tazered his own son. Barky already looks like a sexist asshole. This will just drive that fact home that he hates women, and children. I want you to run with this one, please?

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    I don’t support Obama, but I think you’re a nutty whackjob asshole, frankly.

    How about we put whackjob assholes like you in jail, hmmmmm?

    Yeah, that’s the ticket! Didactic dickheads are FAR more dangerous to our nation than a few lustful folks having some fun with their fiddlybits after all!

    PSSSSST…… You’re either NOT a Democrat, or one doing a stereotypical imitation of a fundie whackjob.

    What you are, on some level, is a great big honking bullshitting phony

    Get the behind me, dickhead!

  • Hope Floats

    Does suggesting one eats tube socks constitute a Rabelaisian wit these days? I thought Ren and Stimpy charted that comic territory a decade ago.

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    That porkchop line was a riot!!!

    :lol:

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    Obama’s already put out a statement telling his minions to back off.

    He said he’d fire anyone spreading that crap–guess alot of these trolls might not be getting their paychecks if they keep it up.

    Obama clearly knows how this is playing, which is to say, not well on the D side.

    I can’t believe my fellow Dems are behaving so …. INTOLERANTLY.

    Quite the eye-opener, this whole election cycle.

  • Hope Floats

    You better be hung like a stallion, easier on the eyes than Brad’s better half and more charming than your snotty and hateful paragraph let’s on, or I’d say your plans are just crazy talk. When people make such unreasonable plans (the term psychiatrists use is “megalomania”), it’s not too long before they’re hauled off in a straight jacket.

    I’m sure “this Levi guy” doesn’t want to marry the hot daughter of the Governor and Republican VP. Wow, I mean that would just be such a drag, right? Hurt me.

  • Hope Floats

    Shoe, meet other foot.

    Ass, meet my foot. Go back to The Orange Sewer, if you don’t like this sauce.

  • Hope Floats

    It’s about fucking time. Do you think he would have said anything if no solid evidence came forth that Sarah Palin was, in fact, the mother of her Downs baby Trig.

  • Obama is a bum

    Obama himself, as an adult for the last 20 years, sat in a racist, anti-American church of his own volition and

    forced

    his own kids into that hell hole. It was not his kids who went there on there own. I consider this child abuse. Sarah Palin did not force her daughter to have intercourse with someone.

    I am pretty sure Obama’s grandma did not advocate drug abuse yet Obama used drugs with lust and even brags about it. Should we hold Grandma along with other “typical white persons” responsible for Obama’s egregious mistakes and character flaws? The same Grandma who Obama uses to throw under the bus only to drag out later for political purposes.

    It is Obama who is running for president against McCain. Obama is not running against Bush, Palin, McCain’s or Palin’s kids. Obama has a lifetime of poor judgement and character flaws and that is a major issue.

  • Hope Floats

    Our millions will outnumber your millions. Have at thee!

  • GetOverIt

    No but if your Doctor told you to keep up all vices, then yes your Doctor should find a new profession.

    You just don’t fly at 8 months pregnant and you really don’t do it when you are having contractions and leaking amniotic fluid when you are having your 5th child at a high risk age. Seriously bad Judgment.

  • Hope Floats

    I’m glad you think sex is immoral, since it means only your hand is getting abused v. the rest of my fair gender.

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    You are an IDIOT. A great big fucking IDIOT.

  • GetOverIt

    The baby was born in April. This is September. Just saying.

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    It’s Troll Debbie, under a different name.

    Someone mentioned it upthread–spot on.

  • Emile

    This is not about Obama at all. This is about someone who knew of a an issue that could become a political tug of war with the upcoming election and she held it back, with intentions to cover it up.

    We have people in our society who are unable to get jobs because they are felons from 20 to 30 years back, if they cover it up or even mention it on an application in some states.

    I am old enough to remember Nixon and WaterGate. Character Mmmmmmmmmm Mnnnnnnnnnnnn

  • baby_puppy

    I kind of think McCain did not know about this pregnancy before the offer of VP. I just don’t think they would not have somehow mentioned this when talking of Palin’s family. This could be that the Palin’s didn’t know either. The young lady does not look 5 months along in the photos of her. Or maybe that’s why she was holding the baby. I don’t know, it just seems strange that McCain’s savvy campaign didn’t think this would be a HUGE issue!

    I think there will be a drop in the polls for McCain, but only by a couple of points because the evangelicals will stay with him.

    Oh and Obama better say he won’t attack the Palins over this, considering his progeny.

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    You obviously don’t. Otherwise you’d learn how to spell the name you are using, troll.

  • DeniseMN

    Since it sounds like a lot of people in the town knew about it, I have no reason to think that McCain is lying when he said he knew about it.

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    baby puppy, these are the republicans you’re talking about. They probably had her due date before she did.

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    You’re from Alaska like I’m a billionaire.
    Go back to Cheetoh-ville.

    And btw, Dog, your Messiah has called you off.

    Obey that whistle; get moving.

  • mimi

    0bama’s band of blogosphere nutjobs are a bunch bonafide idiots.

    The more they harp on this, the more people are going to make the obvious comparisons like 70% of children born out of wedlock in the black community, many to teen mothers. If they condemn her for being a bad mother, then they are condemning 0bama’s grandparents and his mother who had sex with a polygamous man with other wives.

    McCain is on good stead with this, just as he is with the experience theme. The more they talk about Palin’s inexperience, the more they shed light on 0bama who is at the top of his ticket.

    Botheads need to go sit in a corner for awhile and think. They are rolling with some of the stupidest strategies all of which keep coming back to bite them in the butt.

    Frankly, I hope they keep this up.

  • http://! Clinton Fan

    You sound frightened. So much bluster. That’s typically the mark of a scared person.

    Polls going down again, that’s what’s troubling you, huh?

  • mary

    Thanks,Harp…

    GOD BLESS PALIN’S DAUGHTER AND THE BABY ON THE WAY!

    SHAME ON KOS AND THE OBAMABOTS FOR PASSING THESE DISGUSTING RUMORS.

    THEY HAVEN’T HILLARY TO WOMAN-BASH AND THEY THOUGHT THEY WOULD CONTINUE WITHY THE MISOGYNIST BASHING OF PALIN!!

    SHAME ON BARACK AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY FOR SUPPORTING THIS FILTHY INVESTIGATION INTO PRIVATE BUSINESS!

  • BERNICE

    I know that this was written by a male with a vile mouth and a vile mind and has no children. If you can’t write a decent comment, quit writing. You are disgusting.

  • rabblescrabble

    dear “hope sinks”: no, suggesting one eats tube socks does not contitute a rabelaisian, nor a moliereien, wit. it’s merely a suggestion to “queenie” to document her postings in a manner that does not make her sound like her oral orifice is being held hostage via athletic outerwear.

    why not use this forum to discuss political issues, not your penchant for supercilious name-dropping?

  • QUEENIE

    tillthen..just do not put him in the monkey cage..they will eat him alive laughing at his stupidity..

  • rabblescrabble

    “hope sinks”: here’s a tip — when you start talkin’ all biblical-like (“thee” and “thou,” and heck, even a “smite” or two), they begin to sound like a “star wars” reject and america stops listening.

    and me without my light saber.

  • bristol palin

    Actually, it’s me: BRISTOL PALIN! just sprung from the campaign bus to share what I’ve learned during me and Ma’s “sex talk.” I’ze a good student, you hear!

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Douche. Biblical-like? That was Monty Python. You don’t get out much do you?

  • levi/boyfriend

    a;lkjdfl;kthe;alktha;the;latel;kjathe;alkthae;lthat;lhtelhathe;lathethat;lhdlkadfhaelt;kahdflh.

    that’s me, typing with one hand.

    now i need a shower, a gin & tonic, and a cigarette. but not necessarily in that order.

    and “hope sinks,” that’s for the rest of us to decide if you put the “fair” in “fair gender.” you talk like a renaissance fair escapee…maybe it’s time you go back.

  • levi/boyfriend

    “strawberry,” anything relevant you’d like to add, or do you just want the rest of us to know how ancient you are?

    you sound like you think mccain might be too young to run for president.

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Hahhahahah. I’m seven years younger than barky, but thanks for asking. And for your info, at 40, I could kick your skinny, mommy wouldn’t let me play football because I might get hurt, ass anyday. Three one and a half minute rounds, no pads, kicks to head legal. You up for it?

  • levi/boyfriend

    anyone who has “strawberry” in their moniker had surely reevaluate their definition of being able to kick anybody’s ass.

    and 7 years younger than 100 makes you what? — 93?

    look around. this is a political forum. not a pugilist/kick-boxing/roman-greco wrestling forum. although you sound as though you’re yearning for a good, anonymous grappling…tempting, tempting.

    but no, it wouldn’t be right: i’ve no doubt you’ve already experienced many, many legal kicks to the head and i wouldn’t want to take advantage of a special needs person (you) who is afforded access to a keyboard for a few hours each day.

    “simple jack” lives!

  • CLM

    I have done my homework and I have to VEHEMENTLY disagree with you – oh wait, I am I using too big of a word? Let me try and tone down my Harvard degreed vocabulary.

    ALL politicians are in office to legislate their beliefs and ours, why do you think we elect them!?! She hasn’t been able to do so yet, because she hasn’t been there long enough! And while she hasn’t used her office to legislate her beliefs, yet, she is accused of using her office to abuse power!

    I guess we shall see after the hopefully unbiased investigation begins!

  • CLM

    I am just amazed by most of the posts on this blog! And I have to say that I find it laughable how the situation with Palin is being handled. The Republicans want it to be a private matter — oh how situations reverse when the tables are turned.

    When Obama was worshiping in a church of his choice, everyone wanted to make his choice of churches and his pastor out to be this moral issue! Shouldn’t that have been a private matter? However, when Palin’s teen daughter gets pregnant, it has nothing to do with morals or values???

    And I have to be honest with you, the only person to blame for Sarah Palin’s daughter and family having to deal with this as a public issue is — drumroll please — SARAH PALIN! She is the person that choose to put her family in the public spotlight! She had a choice to say NO – and continue on in her office as it stands, but no! Or, if she had just come out with everything on Friday when she was introduced as the VP nominee… but it wasn’t until the press sought to learn more about her did this come out. I was an undecided voter, but my decision was leaning on Friday and solidifed today! Once again, the Republicans have us learning of big issues on a “need to know basis” — not what I am willing to settle for anymore!

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Oh shut it. We have a right to know who Barky gets his spiritual advice from. He’s the one running for office. Besides, didn’t you get the memo? Barky said children are off limits. He called you hellhounds off…now do as your master says and back to the pit with you, vile beast.

  • CLM

    How funny! You so called “CHRISTIANS” only seem to care about where Barack gets his “spiritual advice” — not about what Sarah Palin teaches her children! I love it!

    And I don’t work for Barack, so he can’t fire me!

    But you might want to think of where you can find yourself some spiritual advice and Sarah Palin’s daughter some condoms!

  • truthtelling007

    “Obama’s Mother did not promote abstinence only, and no birth control.”

    You got a quote from Palin promoting abstinence or no birth control? What’s your point? Or is there no point, just make up shit.

  • dwilaon

    You sound like some self-righteous snob spitting on the adversity of others.

  • Greg

    Interesting article on Palin, check it out

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/31/145838/319/386/581332

  • Greg

    CLM Bravo!!!!

    StrawberrybitesBarky: You ever read anything about our founding fathers of this Country and how they believed that religon shouldnt play a role in the electoral process or government.

    Of course it was Palins daughter who had poor judgement, but one would think that a woman of her devout and Christian views would have made more of an impact on her daughter. Especially since her mom is in office? Maybe mom is consumed with mom and doesnt have time for the little things in life like talking to your children and explaining how babys are made.

  • Greg
  • Greg

    Strawberrybites

    You have a serious case of cranial rectal inversion. Keep your head buried and walking in the dark.

    What a frickin complete insult you are to women everywhere. You are a frickin republican plant. Go away, you fake!

  • Obama is a bum

    “When Obama was worshiping in a church of his choice, everyone wanted to make his choice of churches and his pastor out to be this moral issue!”

    Well, yeah. Many people have been making this point as a valid reason Obama should disqualify himself. Obama CHOSE to sit in that so-called church for 20 YEARS! In doing so Obama has exhibited horrendous character and judgment while embracing a radical belief system. I have been calling for PIG to drop out for a long time now.

    You Obamaturds keep tripping over yourselves.

  • Greg

    Same reason Hillary wouldnt be vetted unless she was given the VP spot first. She wasnt gonna share anything with anyone ahead of time. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander. Suck that

  • untilthelastdogdies

    When was the last time you were a teenager?

    Pregnancy happens, period. It happens to children of Evangelicals. It happens to children of Liberals. It happens to children of Communists. it happens to children of Catholics, Jews, Buddhist, Muslims etc., etc.,

    If you are naive enough to believe that pregnancy only happens to young women that haven’t been told the facts of life, or to young women that don’t have an open line of communication to their parent(s), then you are one sorry idiot.

    This kind of commenting really pisses me off…can’t ya tell????

  • StrawberrybitesBarky

    Well it looks like I have been wrong and pissed a lot of you off. I am a republican and didnt want to admit it. Being a lesbian as I am it has been difficult to be open and honest with my feelings.

  • FranSC

    OMG! I don’t recognize any of these commenters, Larry. So, I can only conclude that it was orders from HQ’s (of the BO campaign) to let Palin have it! Or perhaps it is a retaliatory stunt by creepy Andrew Sullivan. Interestingly, they sound like outraged moralistic republicans. The republicans in this matter sound like the democrats.

    As a Hillary supporter, I continue to be thrilled that Sarah Palin is McCain’s choice for VP – a brilliant choice. This pregnancy is a family matter and is none of the 600 or so strangers to this site business.

    To Senator McCain & Governor Palin: I look forward to casting my first republican vote ever for you, regardless of the fact my political philosophy is different from yours. I will support a conservative team who won the nomination fair and square as opposed to the fraudulent dem nominee, thanks to the unethical, immoral help from the DNC and especially Pelosi, Dean, Brazile, and SC Rep. Clyburn, all of whom should be removed from office. Talk about scum of the earth!

  • Obama is a bum

    One would think Obama would make a better impression on his kids rather than forcing them into a racist anti-American church that he attended for 20 years, embracing a terrorist for 20 years, integrating himself into sleazy Chicago politics for over 20 yers, and abusing drugs and cigarettes for over 30 years.

    Obama has demonstrated that he has a lifetime of misconduct and poor character skills. Anyone voting for Obama is also exhibiting poor judgment and disrespect for the US.

  • Brendy

    I wonder how many supporters of Obama HAVE NEVER BEEN MARRIED, yet is a mother (or father) of 2-5 kids? Remember, most of his followers are Blacks and young, college kids. Of course, most of them could have been aborted, so who will EVER know how many were unmarried and pregnant. I wonder how many kids live with unmarried girls/women who have NEVER been married, but probably living with their boyfriends (who is NOT their child(ren)’s father)…huh? I bet the welfare roles would be a good place to start. Oh, I guess that’s o.k. because they most likely support Obama. But, but, but I thought Obama’s supporters were super liberal so why are they degrading something that is o.k. for them and everyone else? Because the girl is a Republican.

  • Obama is a bum

    Keep that Daily Krap out of here it is nothing but fruitcakes.

  • Obama is a bum

    “And I don’t work for Barack, so he can’t fire me!”

    Based on what you have been writing, the Obamboozle compaign probably fired you long ago. It does not take a genius to figure out that you have been costing Obamboozler votes. They also had to tell Obamaboozler to finally get out of that church otherwise he was dead meat for sure.

  • Thinker

    The only garbage I see are the Obama supporters who keep coming to a site that clearly isn’t supporting him.

    If OMG wants to voice her opinion, then she should be prepared for the responses.

    Stop being a whiney victim. and lol @ you trying to police our responses to Obamabots on an ANTI-OBAMA page.

    We are not supporting Obama.

    Get over it.

  • Thinker

    People like you do a good job at strengthening our resolve not to vote for Obama by coming to an ANTI-OBAMA site and trying to play sheriff with our responses.

    Follow your own advice.

    You don’t get to pick which response is appropriate or not.

    OMG is grown. You are on an anti-obama, pro Palin site telling other people how they can or cannot respond to her.

    Once again:

    You don’t get to pick which response is appropriate or not.

  • Thinker

    My last post is for “Joe Johnson”

  • Thinker

    Yeah, I think it’s Debbie.

  • Thinker

    lol @ thuglettes

  • Susan

    I am from Alaska. We live in the same town as Palin’s family. You guys have no idea what new information will be surfacing soon about Governor Palin. We like the family but they have a lot of skeletons in their closet. The McCain people are here now trying to find out everything and trying to intimidate people not to talk. But we’re not afraid of them. The Democrats are also here digging. The info will come out unfortunately.

  • http://beema.wordpress.com VidCrayzee

    For a humorous take on Palin’s pregnancy pickle check out this video.

  • http://360.yahoo.com/ommotherlifeforce fred heidrick

    im pro-choise, dosnt mater to me if they abort it or keep it. it is there choise. the daughter getting pregnant has nothing to do with mrs palin.

  • http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/01/bristol-palin-pregnant/ Ky

    I am a young woman, a few years older than Bristol, and I’ve recently moved to the state of Alaska. I think it is the obligation of parents to support their children in such matters, and though it may have not been ideal timing, I hope that Bristol is happy with her decision…its a little too late to not be happy about it!

    However, her mother, Sarah Palin has made statements that if her daughters ever became pregnant as minors (in the state of Alaska you need parent permission to get an abortion if you are under 18) even in the case of rape, she would choose life and not sign for any abortion.

    I admire women who have children in difficult circumstances, but I do not believe their is shame in seeking a different path for yourself. Children are wonderful and human life should be treasured, but it is also a very personal and permanent matter, that I hope Bristol chose for herself. Bristol is 17 years old, and I hope the decision to have her child was not forced by her mother.

    There is just a lot of hypocrisy in the idea, that a child is not old enough to decide NOT to be a parent, therefor we must force them to do the right thing and BECOME a parent…I love babies, and hope to have one someday myself, however I know that when I was a teenager my mother would never have FORCED that bravery on me. I hope this was Bristol’s own decision. I also hope that she was involved in the conversations and decision making process of her family entering the national spotlight at this fragile time.

    In this country, there are many different political views, none with absolute truth. It is important to respect the views of others when holding executive office. That would entail that you respect the opinion of your daughter. I’ve also believed that involving the abolishment of abortion in politics comes to close to violating the separation of church and state. There are many different types of families, circumstances, and lives. The truth of the matter is, that whether its a choice you would make or not, abortion has been a constant in various human cultures throughout time. Be it through herbs or ancient practices, there have been women who have controlled their reproduction in the endless and various circumstances that inevitably arise in populations of human beings, for thousands of years. There are Chinese records of royal concubines who have had abortions. Ancient Japanese, southeast Asian, Greek, and Egyptian records all show the social acceptance of abortions in dangerous health and poor situational pregnancies. This is not a dark part of history, it was just the first records shown. The aspect that has not changed about it, is that it is a personal and often secretive thing…probably not often involving the opinions of men and their knowledge of its occurrence.

    To conclude, I hope that BRISTOL decided to carry this baby, in the bravery and sacrifices it will entail.

  • http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/aug/30/tale-of-the-tape-sarah-palin-vs-barack-obam/ Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    Thats a little vague let me help you:

    What about Obama getting a blowjob from Larry Sinclair while smoking crack in the back of a limo and then doing a repeat with larry in his hotel room the next day.

    The same Larry sinclair that Joe FillerUp Biden’s atourney general son had arrested in dc in a clear breach of jurisdiction to shut him up and kill any traction the “Barry BLows” story was going to get.

    I mean really.

  • http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/aug/30/tale-of-the-tape-sarah-palin-vs-barack-obam/ Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    The are trying to repeat that but they forgot to make Barrack Senior Declare “I never had sexual Relations with that woman” before he died.

  • Olin Ross

    His mother was 18…..You Republicans know you all are full of shit. What that got to do with the fact that her daughter is pregnant…..
    Two wrongs don’t make it right.

    Olin Ross

  • Olin Ross

    A SIN is A SIN

  • dp

    Ironic that BO bloggers are attacking a teenager. BO’s mother was about the same age when she had him. I think it shows the Palins are real people and families in similar situations will relate to her.

    It is not the most stunning news of the campaign to me. That happened on May 31st, 2008 when the DNC was hijacked by fraud and corruption. It will be a defining moment in the history of the party.

  • http://NoteToSelfDontDie.com/members/ gerard McNedich

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNotZJoZR-4

    a. hillary
    b. mccain

    america first!

  • Ida D

    I am a 46 year old and have a 17 year old daughter, smart and with bright future. She will be graduating and going to college next year. Having a teenager is a challenge, it is never a smooth ride. You want the best for them and hope that they make the right choice in life. I teach her abstinence and the danger of transmitted desease out there. I also told her that if she gets pregnant, I will never be ashamed of her and I will love her and the baby. This does not mean that I want her to go out there and get pregnant or have sex. Babies are god gifts to us. I am happy for the Palins. I am glad that many of you are not judging Sarah Palin because this thing can happen to anyone of us.

    Sarah Palin vs. Barack Obama
    By Gerard Baker

    Political experience
    Obama: Worked his way to the top by cultivating, pandering to and stroking the most powerful interest groups in the all-pervasive Chicago political machine, ensuring his views were aligned with the power brokers there.
    Palin: Worked her way to the top by challenging, attacking and actively undermining the Republican party establishment in her native Alaska. She ran against incumbent Republicans as a candidate willing and able to clean the Augean Stables of her state’s government.
    Political Biography
    Obama: A classic, if unusually talented, greasy-pole climber. Held a succession of jobs that constitute the standard route to the top in his party’s internal politics: “community organizer”, law professor, state senator.
    Palin:A woman with a wide range of interests in a well-variegated life. Held a succession of jobs – sports journalist, commercial fisherwoman, state oil and gas commissioner, before entering local politics. A resume that suggests something other than burning political ambition from the cradle but rather the sort of experience that enables her to understand the concerns of most Americans..

    Political history
    Obama: Elected to statewide office only after a disastrous first run for a congressional seat and after his Republican opponent was exposed in a sexual scandal. Won seat eventually in contest against a candidate who didn’t even live in the state.

    Palin: Elected to statewide office by challenging a long-serving Republican incumbent governor despite intense opposition from the party.

    Appeal
    Obama: A very attractive speaker whose celebrity has been compared to that of Britney Spears and who sends thrills up Chris Matthews’ leg
    Palin: A very attractive woman, much better-looking than Britney Spears who speaks rather well too. She sends thrills up the leg of Rush Limbaugh (and me).
    Executive experience
    Obama: Makes executive decisions every day that affect the lives of his campaign staff and a vast crowd of traveling journalists
    Palin:Makes executive decisions every day that affect the lives of 500,000 people in her state, and that impact crucial issues of national economic interest such as the supply and cost of energy to the United States.
    Religious influences
    Obama: Regards people who “cling” to religion and guns as “bitter” . Spent 20 years being mentored and led spiritually by a man who proclaimed “God damn America” from his pulpit. Mysteriously, this mentor completely disappeared from public sight about four months ago.
    Palin: Head of her high school Fellowship of Christian Athletes and for many years a member of the Assemblies of God congregation whose preachers have never been known to accuse the United States of deliberately spreading the AIDS virus. They remain in full public sight and can be seen every Sunday in churches across Alaska. A proud gun owner who has been known to cling only to the carcasses of dead caribou felled by her own aim.

    Record of bipartisan achievement
    Obama: Speaks movingly of the bipartisanship needed to end the destructive politics of “Red America” and “Blue America”, but votes in the Senate as a down-the-line Democrat, with one of the most liberal voting records in congress.
    Palin: Ridiculed by liberals such as John Kerry as a crazed, barely human, Dick Cheney-type conservative but worked wit Democrats in the state legislature to secure landmark anti-corruption legislation.
    Former state Rep. Ethan Berkowitz – a Democrat – said. “Gov. Palin has made her name fighting corruption within her own party, and I was honored when she stepped across party lines and asked me to co-author her ethics white paper.”

    On Human Life
    Obama: Devoutly pro-choice. Voted against a bill in the Illinois state senate that would have required doctors to save the lives of babies who survived abortion procedures. The implication of this position is that babies born prematurely during abortions would be left alone, unnourished and unmedicated, until they died.
    Palin: Devoutly pro-life. Exercised the choice proclaimed by liberals to bring to full term a baby that had been diagnosed in utero with Down Syndrome.
    Now it’s true there are other crucial differences. Sen Obama has appeared on Meet The Press every other week for the last four years. He has been the subject of hundreds of adoring articles in papers and newsweeklies and TV shows and has written two Emmy-award winning books.
    Gov Palin has never appeared on Meet the Press, never been on the cover of Newsweek. She presumably feels that, as a mother of five children married to a snowmobile champion, who also happens to be the first woman and the youngest person ever to be elected governor of her state, she has not really done enough yet to merit an autobiography.
    Then again, I’m willing to bet that if she had authored The Grapes of Wrath, sung like Edith Piaf and composed La Traviata , she still wouldn’t have won an Emmy.
    Fortunately, it will be up to the American people and not their self-appointed leaders in Hollywood and New York to determine who really has the better experience to be president.

  • elise

    Alyssa, I also believe comprehensive sex education should be offered in public schools as an optional class. It is not something which should be required against the wishes of parents. There is a paradox in your comment IMO. Who are the people who produce the movies you have referenced and why do they push the envelope so far to attract children? These aren’t aimed at adults. At least, most adults prefer something more cerebral. I have always considered myself a liberal, but there are days I am thankful my children are grown and worry about my granddaughters. I wonder if some conservatives have stepped back because they want to protect their children from the promisquity shown in movies and TV and on the Internet. But, I despise what the liberal bloggers are doing with this story and the first one they published which turned out to be a lie and for which they have offered no apologies. It is a morally unjustifiable attack on this family and it has made me feel sick that Dems would do this. Would you mind telling me where you got the information about Gov. Palin? I have read some things she has said in the past and although she is of course, conservative, I have the impression of a completely resonable woman who happens to have a different point of view on somethings, but not fanatical.

  • http://NoteToSelfDontDie.com/members/ gerard McNedich

    Baracktrack defends infanticide:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdbYjmbFzo

    a. hillary
    b. mccain

    america first!

  • http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/aug/30/tale-of-the-tape-sarah-palin-vs-barack-obam/ Jeremiah God Damn Amerikkka Wright

    OMG Wall of Text on the Obama / Palin comparison …EEEK!…Here, let me help you with a bit of formatting for readability:

    Comment by Ida D | 2008-09-02 04:28:35

    I am a 46 year old and have a 17 year old daughter, smart and with bright future. She will be graduating and going to college next year. Having a teenager is a challenge, it is never a smooth ride.

    You want the best for them and hope that they make the right choice in life. I teach her abstinence and the danger of transmitted desease out there.

    I also told her that if she gets pregnant, I will never be ashamed of her and I will love her and the baby. This does not mean that I want her to go out there and get pregnant or have sex. Babies are god gifts to us. I am happy for the Palins.

    I am glad that many of you are not judging Sarah Palin because this thing can happen to anyone of us.

    ————————————————

    SARAH PALIN VS. BARRACK OBAMA
    By Gerard Baker

    Political experience

    Obama: Worked his way to the top by cultivating, pandering to and stroking the most powerful interest groups in the all-pervasive Chicago political machine, ensuring his views were aligned with the power brokers there.

    Palin: Worked her way to the top by challenging, attacking and actively undermining the Republican party establishment in her native Alaska. She ran against incumbent Republicans as a candidate willing and able to clean the Augean Stables of her state’s government.

    Political Biography

    Obama: A classic, if unusually talented, greasy-pole climber. Held a succession of jobs that constitute the standard route to the top in his party’s internal politics: “community organizer”, law professor, state senator.

    Palin:A woman with a wide range of interests in a well-variegated life. Held a succession of jobs – sports journalist, commercial fisherwoman, state oil and gas commissioner, before entering local politics. A resume that suggests something other than burning political ambition from the cradle but rather the sort of experience that enables her to understand the concerns of most Americans..

    Political history

    Obama: Elected to statewide office only after a disastrous first run for a congressional seat and after his Republican opponent was exposed in a sexual scandal. Won seat eventually in contest against a candidate who didn’t even live in the state.

    Palin: Elected to statewide office by challenging a long-serving Republican incumbent governor despite intense opposition from the party.

    Appeal

    Obama: A very attractive speaker whose celebrity has been compared to that of Britney Spears and who sends thrills up Chris Matthews’ leg

    Palin: A very attractive woman, much better-looking than Britney Spears who speaks rather well too. She sends thrills up the leg of Rush Limbaugh (and me).

    Executive experience

    Obama: Makes executive decisions every day that affect the lives of his campaign staff and a vast crowd of traveling journalists

    Palin: Makes executive decisions every day that affect the lives of 500,000 people in her state, and that impact crucial issues of national economic interest such as the supply and cost of energy to the United States.

    Religious influences

    Obama: Regards people who “cling” to religion and guns as “bitter” . Spent 20 years being mentored and led spiritually by a man who proclaimed “God damn America” from his pulpit. Mysteriously, this mentor completely disappeared from public sight about four months ago.

    Palin: Head of her high school Fellowship of Christian Athletes and for many years a member of the Assemblies of God congregation whose preachers have never been known to accuse the United States of deliberately spreading the AIDS virus. They remain in full public sight and can be seen every Sunday in churches across Alaska. A proud gun owner who has been known to cling only to the carcasses of dead caribou felled by her own aim.

    Record of Bipartisan Achievement

    Obama: Speaks movingly of the bipartisanship needed to end the destructive politics of “Red America” and “Blue America”, but votes in the Senate as a down-the-line Democrat, with one of the most liberal voting records in congress.

    Palin: Ridiculed by liberals such as John Kerry as a crazed, barely human, Dick Cheney-type conservative but worked wit Democrats in the state legislature to secure landmark anti-corruption legislation.

    Former state Rep. Ethan Berkowitz – a Democrat – said. “Gov. Palin has made her name fighting corruption within her own party, and I was honored when she stepped across party lines and asked me to co-author her ethics white paper.”

    On Human Life

    Obama: Devoutly pro-choice. Voted against a bill in the Illinois state senate that would have required doctors to save the lives of babies who survived abortion procedures. The implication of this position is that babies born prematurely during abortions would be left alone, unnourished and unmedicated, until they died.

    Palin: Devoutly pro-life. Exercised the choice proclaimed by liberals to bring to full term a baby that had been diagnosed in utero with Down Syndrome.

    Now it’s true there are other crucial differences.

    Sen Obama has appeared on Meet The Press every other week for the last four years. He has been the subject of hundreds of adoring articles in papers and newsweeklies and TV shows and has written two Emmy-award winning books.

    Gov Palin has never appeared on Meet the Press, never been on the cover of Newsweek. She presumably feels that, as a mother of five children married to a snowmobile champion, who also happens to be the first woman and the youngest person ever to be elected governor of her state, she has not really done enough yet to merit an autobiography.

    Then again, I’m willing to bet that if she had authored The Grapes of Wrath, sung like Edith Piaf and composed La Traviata , she still wouldn’t have won an Emmy.

    Fortunately, it will be up to the American people and not their self-appointed leaders in Hollywood and New York to determine who really has the better experience to be president.

    There you go.

    Now my response.

    Whats to judge? The palins seem to be very normal down to earth real americans facing many of the same real challanges we all face as americans and families daily.

    I hate to break the news to the Obama’s but “have you seen the price of arugula” is not what we discuss at our dinner table either.

    Sarah Palin may not espouse every view that i do as a no-longer-democrat, but she has conviction, integrity and a down to earth demeaner and honesty that makes me very comfortable with her as McCain’s choice.

    As a a devout American i will not hand the reigns of this country over to Obama with my vote.

    He will have to steal the Election without me.

    My votes was for Hillary, but now its for McCain/Palin.

  • texasdude

    Maybe if Sarah Palin was parenting her children instead of chasing her career her daughter wouldn’t have grown up to be a whore.

  • Ferd McBerfle

    “The bot takes the lotion from the bucket; it does it when it’s told to”

    Go back to Obahannibal, texdud.

  • TeakwoodKite

    You have some issues, texas dude.

    Seek help.

  • CLM

    “Oh what a tangled web we weave when we first practice to deceive.”

    This should be the theme to the RNC! Let’s just call a spade a spade! Greg, thank GOD for you, one of the handful on this blog that has some common and book sense.

    For those that are having trouble understanding my posts, let me break it down for you: I am in no way blaming Sarah Palin for her daughters pregnancy, HOWEVER, I am blaming her for letting her ego throw her family into this world wind! Honestly I could careless about Bristol, her “fiancé” or the baby – I say let them go and get their 15 minutes of fame somewhere else. But to act like Sarah Palin is some kind of “political martyr” for keeping a down syndrome baby or her daughter keeping her baby is asinine — for those of you that don’t understand – STUPID!

    She is no more a martyr than any other women around the world that helps out their children in a time of need. But she is however, probably the only one that would let it play out on the biggest stage ever! STOP TRYING TO SPEND THIS!!!!!

  • Evita

    She may be a good speaker but she is no Hillary Clinton!!! Nor is she even any close to a Barack Obama who I elect to be in the ranks of JFK and Bobby Kennedy! She is a PEASANT ..a FOLLOWER .. A RAH!RAH GIRL!!! A CHEERLEADER! Oh … so PROFOUND!!!
    The audacity of THIS BITCH comparing herself to Barack Obama & Hillary Clinton!!! YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW! YOU ARE SO CLUELESS!!! I AM A WOMAN AND A SMART WOMAN AT THAT! I CANNOT VOTE FOR YOU EVEN IF THE LAST THREAD OF MY LIFE DEPENDED ON IT! YOU ARE PRO-LIFE, PRO-GUNS, … PRO- everything that I deplore!!! Sarah Palin – THERE IS NO WAY THAT YOU CAN RUN THIS COUNTRY EFFECTIVELY .. NOT WITH JUST THE WAY YOU ARE!!! I CAN NEVER TRUST YOU!!!

  • Hypocrit Hater

    No matter what the GOP says, Liberals aren’t scandalized–they are angered by your blatant hypocrisy–how many of you would take off into the streets citing a dip in American Moral Decency of Palin was a Democrat?????

    Where are you FAMILY VALUES picket signs and marches now????????

    How many of you trashed Britney Spears sister Jaime for being pregnant at sixteen “What kind of mother would let this happen?” You cried into available microphones, blogs and boards–and when someone tried to point out that mistakes in life happens with even good parents, you shouted them down calling them immoral and haters of American values!

    And how about Lakeisha of the ghetto who found solace in sex because of how deplorable her life in poverty is—I grew up there so I know what is like and what the despair is like. I am now successful, but I haven’t forgotten what it was like to be there, unlike you guys who talk about how easy it is to rise from the ashes when many of you went to school on daddy’s dime and don’t know anything about what it means to come from nothing.

    I made it yes, but many others were trying just as hard and didn’t!

    No, Lakeisha gets labeled and called names and isn’t viewed as a girl who made the choice to have her baby despite being poor.

    Think about it! How many times have you pushed FAMILY VALUE mantras down peoples throats–called Mothers shameless and worthless if they had to work even if that same mother made the choice to have her child as opposed to abort despite being poor. No, instead of lifting her up because you were pro-life, you would trash and vilify her.

    You guys talked about bringing the stigma back to teen pregnancy, now, all of damned sudden “its life?”

    I have been saying that for years and you people acted like I was advocating teen pregnancy. I wasn’t! I was saying it was “life”…

    I mean–ever day the Dr Laura Schlessinger ‘s, people that you support, tear women like Palin and her daughter anew one when they call her stupid, man hating show, but now, all of sudden, you understand how MISTAKES HAPPEN???

    All I know is the next time I get flack from one of you conservatives for protecting the virtue and reputation of a poor black or poor white working mother who got pregnant young (as I did in the past to your scathing rebukes) and I get your family values, hate filled rhetoric I am going to scream foul so loud the angels in heaven will hear it!

    I at least respect conservatives, small group that they are, who have said they don’t like Palin for the fact that she wasn’t there for her daughter due to “work” and must not have been around to see what she was getting into– I don’t agree with them because I think in today’s economy it behooves both parents to work, but at least they have the courage to stick behind the stuff you guys have been spouting and amen-ing for years.

    Liberal bias???!!! How about a big convenient 360.

    I mean the only thing you know how to do is trash talk when someone make a valid counterpoint — so I await the vilification, but the reaction will be because you have spent years saying the very opposite of what you are saying now, and now that the spotlight is on your own human fragility (and you now know you can’t act self righteous and holier than thou because anyone, no matter how good a parent they are, can make mistakes) now you have been caught with your pants down and shown for the two faced liars you are!

    You stand for nothing and your VALUES can be sold to the highest bidder!

    And no, I am less than perfect myself, but I was thirty-five and married before I had a child even though I am a low life Liberal.

    Also, I acknowledged I am not perfect and pone to mistakes whereas you stone throwers were always able to walk on water –

    Didn’t realize you lived in a glass house eh?

  • Hypocrit Hater

    Yeah, but the difference is, Dem have always believed that teen pregnancy was just life but you guys have lays spewed FAMILY VALUE anthems at teen mothers — well…until now that is…how convenient

  • Hypocrit Hater

    And for those of you who would call me an angry bitch for my stance— damn right I am angry—I grew up poor and I saw many pregnant teens reduced to tears and suffering at the hands of people who have, all of sudden, become sooooooo understanding!

    Hell yes, YES I am angry—I got TRASHED by you jerks for standing up for poor white and black young mothers who should have had the right to protection for a “private family matter” too!

    But, I suppose poor people don’t deserve the right to privacy or dignity that is awarded to political parents.

    These supposed degenerate welfare moms too made the choice NOT to abort, but instead of getting accolades and support from pro-lifers, you attacked and smeared them.

    I am PISSED about the girls I held in my arms who were wronged by conservatives who told them they should be ashamed and they were going to hell for having premarital sex.

    I am LIVID about how people vilified and persecuted a girl who made the same mistake as Bristol, God loving, down home, All American, Country-loving people like you!

    Yes, I am angry—angry that the very things I have been saying for years are now coming out of the mouths of people I have to protect pregnant teen-agers from.

    Hyprocirts!

    PS—This rant is directed at republicans, not Bristol, who would get the same love and support from me as any other young teen mom. I don’t pick and choose like some.

  • Valgal

    God bless them? I’m sorry. God does NOT bless hypocrites. Palin does not support any form of sex education. She touts ABSTINENCE ONLY, even though SHE HERSELF was pregnant when she got married.
    She is an over-breeding, warmongering, power-hungry, HYPOCRITE!!
    OBAMA 08!!

  • Valgal

    Obama’s kids aren’t being raised by hypocrites like Palin’s. She believes in abstinence only.
    How’s that working for ya Palin?
    Hypocrisy, the new Christianity.

    Obama 08

  • Hypocrit Hater

    You know, the about face on the Republican side is truly a sight to behold.

    For years, when women complained about the glass ceiling in Washington, Conservatives called us whining, America Hatin’ liberals.

    And if we tried to explain that, despite parent’s best intentions, teens could get pregnant, we were called degenerates who advocated teen sex. This was largely due to the fact hat we wanted to teach sex Ed to hormonally charged teens in an effort to show them what could happen if they gave in to temptation. You guys acted as if we were trying to teach the karma sutra when the reality is most sex Ed classes are about the reproductive system and how babies are made.

    Handy info if you want to prevent teen pregnancy.

    We were not advocating teen sex, we were simply stating teen pregnancy is “Life” as Repubs are suddenly saying now in defense of Bristol Palin.

    In recent history Fox News anchors trounced Jaime Spears after her pregnancy announcement—and don’t get me started on the shameful rhetoric spewed about Fantasia and other young unwed, Mothers who were poor. Instead of celebrating the fact that the girls didn’t take the easy way out despite being disadvantaged, Pro-life Conservatives always trashed and ridiculed them.

    How many young girls had their reputations torn asunder by self-righteous believers in Family Values when they too had the right to a “Private family matter?”

    But I suppose that right is only awarded to Political parents, not poor blacks and whites?

    As one church going Mother lamented, “Where was all this grace when my daughter got pregnant?”

    It’s almost as if Republicans are suddenly discovering sexism exists and that teen mothers are not evil, immoral devil spawn, stuff we have been saying that for years.

    In the past, when we started saying the very things you have started to say in defense of Palin’s right to be a working mom with a pregnant teen, you launched into speeches about moral decency, the constitution and our forefathers.

    Sure, our fore fathers laid the groundwork, but wouldn’t they expect us to improve upon the model, not turn a blind eye to the problems we can fix in our beloved country.

    This about face just goes to prove what I have always suspected—that the Republicans couldn’t live by the lofty moral codes that they tried to force on others. They have now discovered they live in a glass house and want to deflect this fact by saying we are hurting Bristol by own criticisms.

    Guys don’t be so disingenuous. I would award to Bristol the same compassion I would give to any other pregnant teen as I have done in the past after they were attacked by people like you

  • rethuglican

    republicans are great at bullshitting themselves.suddenly it’s okay to have a woman running for vice president under an abstinence platform with a 17 year old knocked up daughter? so it’s fine when you so called conservatives do it, but it’s an abomination when everyone else does.you people are sickos. if christ came down tommorrow you would probably try to discredit him and convince america that the son of god is a communist are some shit. you people are fucking nuts!!!

  • Seattle Moss

    Poor little republican hater..
    Sarah Palin and her family have class!
    You don’t!
    The fact that they have a large family and adhere to their beliefs is noble to me.
    Alaskan’s believe in large families as they live in remote areas and big families help.
    Keep it up though!!
    Every time you speak you convert another person to
    McCain/Palin 08

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