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AG Eric Holder Knows the AZ Immigration Law Is Bad…But He Hasn’t Read It

By Anita Finlay ("Ani") on May 14, 2010 at 2:00 PM in Current Affairs, Illegal Aliens, Immigration Reform, Obama Administration

Stephen Dinan of the Washington Times offered this little tidbit about the new and highly controversial Arizona immigration law:

Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr., who has been critical of Arizona’s new immigration law, said Thursday he hasn’t yet read the law and is going by what he’s read in newspapers or seen on television.

Knowing how fair our media is – why wouldn’t our Attorney General, the highest law enforcement officer in the land, want to get his talking points second hand from a bunch of pundits and media hacks. According to Politico, some of these jokers have even confessed to withholding important parts of the story for books they are writing so they can earn a giant payday for their negligent behavior. I tell ya, it warms the cockles of my heart to know Mr. Holder is right on the job – willing to comment on propaganda and sensationalized headlines rather than reading the actual law.

And how long could it take to read the thing anyway? It’s not as nearly as big as our 2700 page health care legislation, is it?

Mr. Holder is conducting a review of the law, at President Obama’s request, to see if the federal government should challenge it in court. He said he expects he will read the law by the time his staff briefs him on their conclusions.

“I’ve just expressed concerns on the basis of what I’ve heard about the law. But I’m not in a position to say at this point, not having read the law, not having had the chance to interact with people are doing the review, exactly what my position is,” Mr. Holder told the House Judiciary Committee.

“On the basis of what he’s heard” – kind of like hearsay?

This weekend Mr. Holder told NBC’s “Meet the Press” program that the Arizona law “has the possibility of leading to racial profiling.” He had earlier called the law’s passage “unfortunate,” and questioned whether the law was unconstitutional because it tried to assume powers that may be reserved for the federal government.

Rep. Ted Poe, who had questioned Mr. Holder about the law, wondered how he could have those opinions if he hadn’t yet read the legislation.

“It’s hard for me to understand how you would have concerns about something being unconstitutional if you haven’t even read the law,” the Texas Republican told the attorney general.

Yes, well, one would think so. Our Attorney General gets his talking points from the President’s office who is trying to use the Arizona law to get Latino votes in the midterms and in 2012. Is it surprising Mr. Obama would be speaking negatively about a law he probably hasn’t read either?

The Arizona law’s backers argue that it doesn’t go beyond what federal law already allows, and they say press reports have distorted the legislation. They point to provisions in the law that specifically rule out racial profiling as proof that it can be implemented without conflicting with civil rights.

No one is allowed to stop you for no reason. If you are already being questioned for an infraction, only then can someone ask for identification. Just as you would have to offer in any other country.

Mr. Holder said he expects the Justice and Homeland Security departments will finish their review of the Arizona law soon.

Soon.

Well, good for you, Mr. Attorney General. But by all means go on ahead and get on national television and act just like our President, criticizing something before you even know the facts.

Hokma

Holder takes his orders daily from Obama, so no one should be surprised what he says or the fact that he has not read a 10 page bill.

I read the bill and they have made sure that this law does not lead to racial profiling.

Like in any other state, if someone is pulled over for runnning a Stop sign and they cannot provide a drivers license and are not in the police computer they will be detained. Being Hispanic has nothing to do with it.

Holder is the chief law enforcement officer in this country. He has an obligation to have read that bill.

Obama and his crowd are just a bunch of race baiting community activist thugs who have no interest in leading the country.
Docelder

The really asinine partof all of this is that the media gets their news stories straight from Axelrod. Axelrod determines the news and the news determines the Obama administrations agenda… that makes Axelrod acting POTUS by proxy doesn’t it?
Tricia

This guy is a stumbler–I don’t know why he got the job.
Olivia1998

Hokma: your right they just want to change the country and with Soros they would like to take on the world. A one world order.
Olivia1998

He got the job because he follows orders well. That’s why he had no answer the other day. He shold of checked his blackberry.
Olivia1998

He got the job because he follows orders well. That’s why he had no answer the other day. He should check his blackberry.
HARP

Judging people in Arizona without knowing all the facts makes Holder a racist. Sharpton…….are you listening?
Peggy Sue

Again, I think Holder is following the leader and taking his cue from the WH and the merry politicos who see an opportunity to raise the specter of racism, again. I don’t think Obama and his henchmen give a hoot what’s in Arizona’s bill. This is all about politics, rattle the cages, get people stirred up and somehow crimp the November slaughter that the Dems know they’re facing.

Want to hold onto the Hispanic vote? Keep playing the racial profiling card, convince people this is all about denial of civil rights, pretend the word “illegal” does not apply to immigrants coming into the country through the back door and play the I-am-flapping-my-lips-game when it comes to any true immigration reform.

It’s disgusting.
HARP

UNION INTELLIGENCE….or why the hell does anyone pay their union dues?

AFL-CIO wants DHS to stop working with Arizona state cops

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/97913-groups-want-dhs-to-end-relations-with-arizona-law-enforcement
elizabethrc

I just listened to a sheriff in Arizona who was speaking about the new law and he was incredibly articulate. He is someone to watch. I wish I knew his name but came in on the middle of the discussion. I shall watch to hear him again because he was reasonable, forceful and a great spokesperson for Arizonans who believe in the rule of law.

Holder needs to resign due to incompetence. He has shown strong bias in favor of anyone who is not white and I actually believe he’s worse than Gonzales was, if that’s possible.
juan

Holder, Obama, his Administration, and all of those Radical CZARS are becoming SCARIER by the day!
Diana L. C.

Our Denver paper had a guest editorial by a Denver police officer also explaining the law and approving of it. Obama and his lackeys are all just angry because it makes them look bad for not doing their jobs in the first place—narcissists all of them.
HARP

Hey Holder…….The bill is only 10 pages long……Hell I raed more pages than that while sitting on the crapper !!!!
HARP

Hey Holder….The bill is only 10 pages long….Hell I read more than that while sitting on the crapper.
Olivia1998

Yes they are. Czars are running the country. Mr “O” sure doesn’t know how. He gives a good hug and has nice smile (hottie but skinny). Great reasons to vote for him
Onofre’s arm

“I don’t know why he got the job. ”

Answer:

1. He pardons all the right people, (or Rich people as it were)
2. He kisses all the right asses.
3. He’s black.
4. He’s a radical progressive.
5. He went to Columbia Law School.
6. He’s black.
7. He can be easily manipulated.
8. He can ignore the Constitution without feeling shame.
9. He’s black.
10. The MSM gives him a pass because of reasons 3, 6, and 9.
Peggy Sue

You made me laugh, Harp. And my father would be proud. He was the champ in bathroom reading.

I’m listening to Cavuto right now and the guy he’s interviewing has compared Arizona’s law to South Africa’s Apartheid laws. And here I thought only Al Sharpton could be this ridiculous.

The world has literally gone insane.
Robb

Especially because of reasons 3,6, and 9 !!
honestlawyermostly

Peggy Sue, I agree. The sad thing is that Hispanics, who have been held up as “victims” of racist legislation, at some point will discover what women and more and more blacks are discovering– the democrats are interested in Hispanics only because their votes will keep them in power. The Arizona law provided an excellent “teaching moment” for any true leader, explaining what the law actually says and what it actually will do, its good points and its bad, but instead, it was distorted and then used to further alienate ethnic and racial groups in our society. Just one ”this has got to stop” moment occurred when the Highland Park High School girls basketball team was denied its hard earned trip to the playoffs. Obviously, the people who foment this nonsense have no shame. Hopefully, more and more people will come to realize this.
oowawa

Heck HARP, I just finished reading all of Milton’s Paradise Lost while engaged in that activity (not at one sitting, of course). Now it’s on to Paradise Regained, and then, hopefully, if I live long enough, Immanuel Kant’s Critique of Pure Reason . . . It’s good to plan ahead . . .
Obamastolemyhealthcare

I used to be scared. Now I’m just pissed off! I know true Americans will stand up to whatever these Aholes think they can dump on us and i say bring it on losers! America will not be a failed experiment!
jbjd

Ani said, “Yes, well, one would think so. Our Attorney General gets his talking points from the President’s office who is trying to use the Arizona law to get Latino votes in the midterms and in 2012. Is it surprising Mr. Obama would be speaking negatively about a law he probably hasn’t read either?”

Oh, sure, now he cares about Latinos. But remember when…

No Hispanics Encroaching in Black Areas
When the 2000 census revealed dramatic growth in Chicago’s Hispanic and Asian populations alongside a decline in the number of African Americans, the Illinois black caucus was alarmed at the prospect that the number of blacks in the Illinois General Assembly might decline. At that point, Obama stepped to the forefront of the effort to preserve as many black seats as possible. The Defender quotes Obama as saying that, “while everyone agrees that the Hispanic population has grown, they cannot expand by taking African-American seats.”
http://libertypundits.net/article/bombshell-howard-kurtz-discovers-obamas-lost-papers/
Retired

If Obama lays claim to being “The One,” then indeed Holder is “The None” when it comes to being a competent Attorney General that deserves the confidence of the American people.
I am sorry to say that Holder brings to mind a very capable senior officer that I worked for at CIA. My boss was black, and because some of the things in our backgrounds were similar–Marine officers, short in stature, independent-minded wives abundantly bleassed with personalities that could light up the deepest oceans–we often found ourselves discussing various topics that peaked our interests.
We were discussing the possible effects of a new CIA policy of race-quota based promotions one afternoon when he glumbly put his head in his hands and said, “You probably don’t realize that if we adopt this, every time someone who doesn’t know me looks at me they will wonder if I made SIS because of my competence or because of my race. That is the insidious condemnation of quotas.”
I will never forget that afternoon. Here was a guy who had very clearly been promoted because of performance–you just had to work with him for a couple of months to realize that–who felt that a policy of promotions based on racial quotas had obviated a life spent striving for excellence.
And regretably, he was right. Just look at some of the comments above. How many people truly believe that Holder is Attorney General today purely on the merit of his legal expertise?
HARP

It`s good to be regular.
oowawa

Good find, jbjd.
TeakWood

This the Theater of the Absurd on steriods. Holder is some pair of pliers.

Ani, I read all three versions Arizona assembly, senate and the one signed into law by the Governor of the state. In addition, the rider that followed a few days later.
The whole thing was less than 60 pages of legal text. The text of the bill was clear in its intent, consice in it’s language and easy to read.

First, the text cited ONLY federal law in the context of illegal aliens.

Question: Has there ever been a case of the executive branch sueing itself?

Second, the method of initial contact is ALREADY grounded in federal law. There is NO state in this nation that views driving as a right or lawful contact by law enforcement as inhibitited by denying reality or the facts as they are encountered.

Question: Why is Holder suggesting changes should be “Miranda”for US citizens, while on the other hand saying people who with no status beyond being “U.S. person”, (as defined by the SCOTUS) can be given the “Full Miranda”???

, . NO! NO! not gonna read no stinking 17 page document that might effect my job. Nope! Yea, I know the “Space Cadet in Chief” asked me to look into it…

Question: When was the last time a state or city barred doing commerce with another state or municipality across state lines? The Civil War?

The irony is that Holder climbed up through the civil rights division of the DOJ, after pulling down big bannnas defending Chicita as they violated the civil rights of the South American countries they did buisness in.
elizabethrc

Let me guess..the guest was Hispanic, probably Mexican.
Every hispanic I’ve listened to on any of these shows has the same opinion. Why have them on? Just put a cardboard cutout of them on and spare us the same diatribe from them.
It’s okay to break American laws, but no matter how much crime comes from it, we must never criticize illegals.
Stuff and nonsense!
Diana L. C.

And Brown’s great comeback should be used here—they were the people’s seats.
Diana L. C.

I’ve done Milton, but couldn’t get fired up for anything but good edited excerpts of Kant. Good Luck
Diana L. C.

Turns out the lady who did that is Republican–she did it as a joke and now feels bad about all the publicity.
Diana L. C.

And #10
oowawa

Question: When was the last time a state or city barred doing commerce with another state or municipality across state lines? The Civil War?

Good question, Teak. I’ll make it simpler: when was the last time a US city boycotted a US state? I really can’t remember.
TeakWood

Exactly, Harp!
~~JustMe~~

Yes “The Blackberry Rules’ in more ways than one.
Get your talking points.
Check it hourly in case we were for it before we were against it.
3am phone call
The magnificent vibrator!
oowawa

“Question: When was the last time a state or city barred doing commerce with another state or municipality across state lines? The Civil War?”

Good question, Teak. I’ll make it simpler: when was the last time a US city boycotted a US state? I really can’t remember.
TeakWood

What oowawa said.

Geez…
POdVet

Having just finished reading the entire Arizona Immigration law. I have come to the determination that race is indeed the major factor in the arguments surrounding this law!

The far left nutjobs are pushing this, counting on Hispanic Americans being to lazy and ignorant to read the law for themselves!!! The majority of the law involves punishment for companies utilizing illegal alien labor. So the “libs” are arguing because they want to make sure they keep their cheap labor…read (slaves!) Legal immigrants should be FOR this law! As it in effect takes away the competition for jobs that has been forcing their wages down. Why would a company hire a legal resident and pay him $14.89hr SRC: ( http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes472181.htm ) to do roofing, when they can hire an illegal and pay him $7.50hr to do the same job?!? Thats what Obama and his minions want to protect.

Once again I state, that Obama is for redistribution of wealth. But not in the way the far right nutbags claim. He wants to redistribute the wealth from the rich right, to the rich left. Dropping very few crumbs in the transfer to keep the poor from realizing what the Criminal In Chief is actually doing!
TeakWood

Tea anyone?
TeakWood

That’s a smart move. And who put them in charge of national security?

Meanwhile…(spinning newspaper) BO is cutting NYC’s budget for domestic security, and their is nothing funny about listening to a police sargent from NYC on the radio say that it is a travisty and injury to insult when BO prances in to praise NYC law enforcemnt then heads downtown to feed at the trough of a Wall Street fund raiser. The officer stated even his captian is disgusted….

BO is attempting to rein in NYC’s intel ops center with the DOJ pissing on themselves. Good job Holder. I heard that “Law and Order” is being canceled by the network. Fitting for the times but sad to see it go.

Great job BO….
Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

Holy moley, jbjd – that IS quite the find! That should be published everywhere…

Ani, great post. I could not believe my ears when I saw that Holder hadn’t even read this TEN PAGE law, and he is threatening to file a lawsuit?? If nothing else, it shows what a lightweight he is. If only that was the extent of it…
jbjd

R3A, oo, TW, and Everyone, you will not believe this but, I first posted comments like that 2 (two) years ago! I didn’t have access to the internet today at school and so, I began cleaning up my document files. I found a virtual treasure trove of old comments – sometimes I remembered to save these – with everything from Obama’s indignation at the ‘encroaching Latinos’ to my 3:00 AM (actually, almost 3:30 AM) epiphany, posted here on NQ on August 2, 2008, that the ONLY way to keep BO out of the WH if he is made the D nominee; would be, to keep him off the ballots by filing challenges with election officials in those states that only allow qualified candidates to get their names on the ballot!
Senneth

This is the same Holder who doesn’t like to use the words Islamic Terrorist or prosecute the black panthers intimidating people outside of polling places. I’m not at all surprised by this. Nothing in this administration surprises me any more. They obviously don’t like our country or her citizens.
jbjd

Is anyone tired of watching this yet?
jbjd

Is anyone tired of watching this yet?
Mark

Is the coward, Holder, capable of reading? I think the guy is a moron.
HARP

Maybe those in California should read their own laws first.

Below is the a copy of section 834b of the California Penal Code dealing with immigration law enforcement at the local level.

(a) Every law enforcement agency in California shall fully cooperate with the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service regarding any person who is arrested if he or she is suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws. (b) With respect to any such person who is arrested, and suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws, every law enforcement agency shall do the following: (1) Attempt to verify the legal status of such person as a citizen of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted as a permanent resident, an alien lawfully admitted for a temporary period of time or as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of immigration laws. The verification process may include, but shall not be limited to, questioning the person regarding his or her date and place of birth, and entry into the United States, and demanding documentation to indicate his or her legal status. (2) Notify the person of his or her apparent status as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws and inform him or her that, apart from any criminal justice proceedings, he or she must either obtain legal status or leave the United States. (3) Notify the Attorney General of California and the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service of the apparent illegal status and provide any additional information that may be requested by any other public entity. (c) Any legislative, administrative, or other action by a city, county, or other legally authorized local governmental entity with jurisdictional boundaries, or by a law enforcement agency, to prevent or limit the cooperation required by subdivision (a) is expressly prohibited.
It may be interesting to hear comments of the LA City Coucil on the California law. Maybe Ed Reyes, who said of the Arizona law– “As an American, I cannot go to Arizona today without a passport. If I come across an officer who’s having a bad day and feels that the picture on my ID is not me, I can be … deported, no questions asked. That is not American’’ –could offer his crack legal opinion on the California law.
Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

Unbelievable. And what is even more unbelievable is that the very officials in CA are either willfully ignoring this law, or are ignorant of it. Either way, it does not speak well if them. I include the Govenator in that, too, who also made snide comments abt the AZ law.

And WHY is this not being brought up by every major news service?

Outstanding fine, HARP.
Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

Unbelievable. And what is even more unbelievable is that the very officials in CA are either willfully ignoring this law, or are ignorant of it. Either way, it does not speak well if them. I include the Govenator in that, too, who also made snide comments abt the AZ law.

And WHY is this not being brought up by every major news service?

Outstanding find, HARP.
Olivia1998

Harp: I agree outstanding find and I wonder how many other states that are condemning AR have the same laws.
HARP

Thanks. I am convinced the only reason everyone is upset is the fact that someone finally is enforcing the law.
~~JustMe~~

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Docelder

Can we boycott California? If for no other reason… then for stupidity?
Docelder

The Govenator… I wonder if Hawaii has his birth certificate on ice somewhere? You never know, they might.
Armymom

The state rep that wrote the Arizona bill was on Fox today and he said that 36 other states were contacting him and trying to write up their state law to reflect Arizona’s. Good, I hope they all do.
jwrjr

“Sharpton…….are you listening?” Since the answer is obviously “No”, I assume that this is a rhetorical question.
TeakWood

Any legislative, administrative, or other action by a city, county, or other legally authorized local governmental entity with jurisdictional boundaries, or by a law enforcement agency, to prevent or limit the cooperation required by subdivision (a) is expressly prohibited.
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Question: Any CA sancutary city is in violation of state law. If Ms.Camela Harris is elected to be the Attorney General of California, I garentee she will not enforce this law. She is the Da in SF, who took a pass on prosecuting cop killers. Who gave a pass to providing sanctuary to illegal aliens who in turn murdered Americans.
This also was done with Newsom’s blessing, who is running for lt govenor. Tom Amiano, now a state legislator is continuing to gum up the works.

This state is in the tubes financially and politically. Fienstien and Boxer are on record in sponsoring Corporate labor welfare. Arnie won’t be back.
HARP

I hope the LSM pick up on this.
HARP

If any lawyer types would like to pursue this, here it is.

http://www.americanpatrol.com/REFERENCE/PENALCODE/CPC113-114-115-834b.html
kenoshamarge

If all the asshats in Washington that are incompetent resigned it would be a ghost town. And the White House would sit empty.

Not saying this is a bad thing…
kenoshamarge

Not Hispanic elizabethrc,

I watched the same interview, the guy was a Union Official. Getting information about laws from a Union Official is the same thing as getting our information from the LSM. Biased, dishonest and stupid.
kenoshamarge

You would think that the elected officials in California would be more concerned about the fact that their state is about to go belly up financially that about the laws in Arizona. But that would take brains, competence and a concern for the welfare of their citizens. CITIZENS not law-breaking illegal aliens that very presence is again the laws of this country.

It’s far easier to try and rile up the Hispanic population than attend to their own problems. Not that they attend to them anyway or they wouldn’t be in the mess they are in. Stupid, incompetent asshats.
Ferd Berfle

if I live long enough, Immanuel Kant’s Critique of Pure Reason .
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It took me a year to slog through that one and I’m still not sure what he was saying. Even my Philosophy professors had a difficult time with Kant.
bablu###

PLEASE, STOP CALLING THEM (MOST OF ILLEGALS) HISPANIC. THEY ARE NOT HISPANIC THEY ARE LATINOS!!! TIME TO START SUPPORTING ARIZONA LAW AND THEIR GOVERNOR, MAYBE SHE SHOULD RUN FOR PRESIDENT OF USA IN 2012???
bablu###

well, people in California must stand up for them selfs and vote Her OUT, she can not win or California will be lost! It is wake up call for all legals and USA citizens.Maybe California should be connected with Mexico because it make no difference , latinos and their USA citizens and supporters betraid USA and USA citizens!!! Just asking.
bablu###

where is California Governor Arnold??? He didnt do anything good for California , why should He care about USA.How anyone could support this man for Governor of California???
PssttCmere

Same reason obamadinejad got his?

“Say What You Will…It Feels So Good”
PssttCmere

Why should they when the federal government isn’t enforcing the immigration laws they have in effect? Clusterfukk anyone?? (shaking my head and rolling my eyes)

“Say What You Will…It Feels So Good”
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Anonymous

how come he said that its bad when he hasn’t read it yet. LOL

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