Cybill Shepherd and the Return to Salem

Bill Clinton says Obama will win handily

http://thepage.time.com/

I AM ABOUT TO CRY

I was actually joking in AOL’s political chat rooms that libs were going to do an intervention on Bristol Palin to convince her to abort her baby because “it’s the right thing to do”.

Apparently I’m not far off the mark.

What else is he supposed to say? The Dems are bringing in the big clinton guns to save precious’ ass.

Don’t worry, it isn’t true.

i just said that on the other thread

except instead of cry I said SPIT!!!!!

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

I’M SO GLAD I AM PUMA UNA!!

I was thinking that we could request a National boycott of one day or two or three or maybe an entire week of turn your TV’s only to fox news; no movie nights for you or your kids; do not purchase news papers or magazines unless it’s the NY Post etc……….

Pick a day and put out the notices.

How about Sept.19th?

I guess Hillary is getting that money she needed to pay off her campaign debt from Obama after all.

lol that’s easy because that’s all I watch anymore

that and the weather channel and occasionally E or Comedy Central

the rest I surf (I’d be glad to give up surfing as long as necessary) hehe

Of course, this is the same guy who said he never had sexual relations with Ms. Lewinsky too.

I’m thoroughly disappointed in the Clintons. Political hacks who will take beating after beating in order to put their party first. I will never EVER give these people money again, for any reason. If some asshole tried to write me off as a KKK style racist the secret service would have to restrain me from kicking his ass everytime I saw him…but I guess that’s just me.

Nope it’s not true.

But let this be a warning to Bill and Hillary: you’ve done enough. Anything further will destroy the legacy of your presidency, first ladyship, senate work, and political career. Be warned; wake up.

Maybe he is just giving the One a false sense of security….

I too SPIT on the hypocrisy of NARAL, NOW and Planned Parenthood. They’ll get no more donations from me ever!

What the hell is up with the Obamacrat women??

Don’t worry. Bill got something for it.

I’m blown away

they’re seething that that sweet baby is gestating away sleepily, happily, waiting to be born
how DARE it

they want at it with scalpels and vacuums and curettes

they would give Bristol a cookie and a cup of orange juice afterward, I’m sure

Yes, it’s a witch hunt, and it is sick to see.

It is what it is.

Hypocritical creationists family planning deniers doing what theyt claim to be entirely immoral.

Pit Bull = white trash.

Bill is basically saying then, that Hillary is not going to run for POTUS again. If they work to get Obama elected then Hillary’s time has come and gone.

There will be no 2016 for her. Even if she would run there would be no chance for the Democrats that year after 8 years of Obama.

All he can do now is negotiate for a better deal within the administration for Hillary and some help with her debt. It must be heartbreaking for Hillary to know that she will never realize her dream.

If Bill and Hill go out on the trail they will get Obama elected, they have that much power. Unless, this is all a smokescreen because the Clintons know that the GOP has some information that will sink Obama for good.

Intrade Real Time Quotes McCain 50.5 BO 47.9
Via RCP

Don’t cry yet. Bill Clinton knows BO isn’t going to win, that’s how he smiles thru all of this.

The Clintons will do what they have to do, and so will the Dem voters who cross party lines in November. Hillary has declined to attack Palin in her appearances on behalf of BO. Before I lose respect for the Clintons, I will see how Bill’s words translate in action.

No. September 19th is International Talk like a pirate day!

http://www.talklikeapirate.com/piratehome.html

Pit bull also = ghetto culture. Trust me I know. Brilliant.

Sarah Palin knowingly brought a baby with a genetic defect into the world, where the ultimate result would be suffering for all involved. Now, I am not advocating for eugenics, but it is certainly better than disgenics. Matt Damon is right, Sarah Palin is “scary”.

While I have had nothing but respect and admiration for both Clintons for many years I am beginning to doubt that respect.

It appears to me, and this is just me, that both Clintons care more about their party than their country.

They’ve done more than enough. And if they keep this shit up they will damage their own credibility. For me it’s all ready too late. If they support Obama, then they have nothing more to say to me. Enough is damn well enough.

Look, Bill and Hillary Clinton are pols. That’s their career; Clinton’s just doing what he has to do for the party–the same party that threw Clinton overboard during the primaries. Ya think he’s really passionate about Barack?

heh.

He hated John Kerry too, and he campaigned for him 6 weeks after open heart surgery, when he nearly died.

It didn’t help, did it?

Bill just wants this meeting to be a chapter in his next book. No biggie. Anything for a buck.

Through the whirling wind, God Himself spoke and said, “who are these who claim to know my workings and all of my ways …”

Obama is NOT a messiah. He was not sent by God. For God would not send one to kill his unborn children. Obama is not even a qualified candidate. He shows no knowledge about people and certainly no mercy for them and their unborn.

Democrats are now essentially perversely, exceedingly delusional — in ABSOLUTE denial of
themselves and their piously held extreme liberal feminist rhetoric that subtly defines choice as abortion and nothing else.

Down with Barack Obama.

May the Lord forever bless our beloved country.

Women against women, WHO’S FU#*KING BUSINESS IS ANYWAY we don’t know what Bristol thinks, her body her choice. Leave the young lady alone.

From what I’ve read recently, BO isn’t bringing in the $$ and he’s burning through money faster than he can raise it. I don’t see him being able to help with that anymore.

I think the Clintons are really campaigning for Hillary. They have to throw in a little, “Oh, Obama is great” here and there for kicks and giggles. Other than that, they are keeping the Clinton name out there for when Hillary has to step in when the Obamanible Showman is deemed in eligible:

http://www.obamacrimes.com

Well as GW would put it, Bill Clinton “Underestimated” Barack Obama too.

Are you saying their baby will grow up to procreate Down Syndrome children?

No, Bill Clinton is just showing the party is united behind Barack Obama. It’s Obama’s party now and he understands that. We will win handily in November.

They are also writers and consultants. So inside stories and anecdotes adds pages to books and nice paragraph in speeches. He charges like 100k or more for a speech. He needs something unique to say in them. And he makes 20/30 million with each book. So more power to him. Screw us.

That is why McCain is so attractive and SO FRESH. Vote McCain/Palin 2008

As GW Bush wpuld put it. Bill Clinton “MISUNDERESTIMATED” Barack Obama too. So take it with a grain of salt.

Of course, this is the same guy who said he never had sexual relations with Ms. Lewinsky too.

Surprise..they are politicians..Remember the McCain hug for “W” after McCain’s family was trashed and they said McCain sold out his fellow POWs? I think John is getting the last laugh on W and Rove. I don’t know about Hillary but Bill has a long memory.

Obama is Godlike right? Couldn’t he just make baby Tryg not have down syndrome and make Bristol unpregnant? Oh, yes, he’d have to put his hands on them for that and nothing would be worth having those slimy hands on anyone!

For the record, should I be striken blind or deaf, I willnot have Obama touch me!

Oh and by the way, Obama will also write a few books after this one. A chapter would be titled: Bill Clinton and how much he meant to me in those final days.

Excuse me, but the party does not belong to a person. It belongs to the people. That basic misunderstanding will cause your candidate-on-a-cross to LOSE.

I don’t want to see Obama elected but you are criticizing him for being a false Messiah and I assume that means he falsely speaks for your god. Yet you are claiming to speak for god in your own words. This is an inherent contradiction on your part.

Apparently your mom had you- You seem to have a lot more negative DEFECTS in your head than a loved little baby. So you little BOYS go ahead and pretend to KNOW GOD and all the secrets of the world. You sick PRICK!

So, ghetto and white trash in one statement, a great example for VP.

My, we’ve risen the bar!

Anyone who thinks the Clintons do not look out for their own political asses are living in the twilight zone and they have two left feet.

No, Clinton is taping Barack in his own words for his audio book.

Yes, there is about 50% that would be the result.

Yeah. Come back in November … after the 527′s. He can’t even man up to his BS smear about lipstick. Imagine what he’s going to do when they start to hit him on his abysmal record and associations. Sh^tting his pants comes to mind. How much more weight can he lose? And how much bigger can that thing grow on his face? Maybe that’s his o-lie-o-meter?

A witch hunt is for someone who was innocent, being looked at by religious zealots as a scapegoat.

This is about a religious zealot wanting the second highest office in the country.

If she can’t take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Cybill Shephard, Matt Damon, P. Diddy: I’m so impressed. I mean, these are the real leaders aren’t they? I will follow them anywhere. Just tell me who to vote for Cybill, and I will pull the lever. After all, you have exemplified a life of great knowledge and sacrifice. Show me the way…

As long as GE keeps its mitts off of HGTV, I am totally new PC ….

My son was born with what amounted to a Swiss Cheese Heart. He was life-flighted and at four days of age had his heart rebuilt.

Genetic defect I guess.

F*** YOU.

With(out) respect,
Patrick

Don’t be too hard on them. They’re only doing what they have to do as “good Democrats” by giving lip service to the ticket. You can bet your last dollar that neither Bill or Hillary want to see Obama win.

Barack Obama went to Harvard, he has a high IQ. Sarah Palin wants to burn books and is an extremist anti-science, religious freak. Do we want a nut like that one heart beat away from the nuclear codes?

Awww, shades of Sybil Leek, Cybill. The white witches vs. the fundamentalist Christians. Wonder who’s got the most votes? I always figured Howard Dean lost because people saw the likes of Rob Reiner and Charlie Sheen standing behind him, not because of a “scream”. And now these Hollywood pagans and atheists are going to rescue us all from the First Amendment and the right to privacy. Go stir your cauldrons. Barack’s already brought you enough toil and trouble.

Exactly who is suffering? The child is loved, has a large family and community support, and his family is in love with him. Oh, he has Down Syndrome…they should have killed him, how very Third Reich of you to think so.

You are for eugenics and a fascist. Embrace it as you do your fraud god Obama.

Care to put some money on that?

Sarah Palin knowingly brought a baby with a genetic defect into the world, where the ultimate result would be suffering for all involved.

The ultimate result is certainly not suffering for all involved. I have a disabled loved one, and I have been inspired by the courage he has demonstrated just in the daily living of his life. He has met challenges that spineless individuals such as yourself could never imagine, let alone overcome.

You certainly are either very young and clueless or just brainless and mindless. You speak well for your empty-suited candidate. You are cut from the same invisible cloth.

A close examination of the Gallup numbers is really interestng. Take a really good look. Women moving to JSM, larger numbers of men. When you look at white voters, more of the educated white voter is moving to McCain and away from Barky unless they are post graduates…. can you say college professor?

Obviously you feel I’m connected. Thanks. I’m not ready to tell you if I am or not. You interpret what you read by what you want. It’s your right — but read carefully.

http://thepage.time.com/video-bill-clinton-obama-remarks-before-lunch/

video of bill. the video makes me feel bettr cause bill desn’t seem enthusiatic

Perhaps Palin would show us evidence of a balanced budget on the next episode of Entertainment Tonight.

Please please, I lost my brother in the 09/11 attacks. Lets be pensive about the people who died on that day. Lets come to terms with it, and be at peace.

This is about a religious zealot wanting the second highest office in the country.

No, it is not. I know “religious zealot wacko” are the dem talking points sent to all the faithful. Nice try though.

Kenoshamarge/ I am starting to feel the same way as you. If they do more for this disgrace called barky, I want nothing more to do with them. I am saying this as someone who volunteered and gave money for her campaign. I have had it!

Remember the old saying, “keep friends close, but keep your enemies even closer”

Anyone thinking Bill Clinton is aiding Obama is a fool, Obama is so stupid in meeting with Clinton alone shows his weakness is shining big time right now.

This gives the Clinton’s the power they need when Obama is slaughtered in Nov to remove the likes of Dean, Pelosi, Reid and Soro from the Democratic Party and put the DNP back into the form it was set up to be for 2012!

UFB

I have a disabled loved one also and I replied to this non-entity of a poster downthread.

Are you serious in this statement? If you are then I feel sorry for you. You are so full of cynicism and hate towards humanity that you deem children with congenital defects and their caring families as suffering victims. As a former pediatric RN I’ve witnessed firsthand the love that binds these families together and the joys that these special-needs children bring to those around them.

I’m really afraid this is wishful thinking but I do hope it happens! Ohitler has bought himself some mighty protection by threatening a race war if he is not elected and at a minimum I think it protects him from being declared ineligible. Realistically I think the best we can hope for is a massive voter turnout combined with better cheating from the Repubs than from the Dems. That is what this cluster fuck has devolved into I am afraid.

That’s what separate Clinton from all of you writers that blog here. You wish to be a fly on the wall with a tape recorder. Nothing wrong with that. But when you sell a thousand books, Bill Clinton will sell 2/3 million copies or more. Why? Meetings like this one. That’s the stuff he’s got that no one else has and that sells books.

I was and am interested in seeing HRC president. There is no way she can persuade me to vote for zero. She can talk Democrats up. I have no problem with that. I will listen very carefully for her message.

Obama is a Cocaine ADDICT and bisexual which means he cheats on his hateful wife. Bush is an alcoholic. Same old sameold garbage again- Is that what you want asshole hypocrit?

Obama=Bush

Remember Obama is the guy who ran the primary calling Bill Clinton names and never gave credit to what Clinton did in the 90′s. I would love to see how he wins. You know Obama is toasted when he runs around asking Hillary and Bill Clinton help. Oh… Lord what a sense of justice. What a piece of shit….. I can’r stand Obama. What a weasle.

You have no credibility.

You have exposed yourself as a hater of humanity.

Why do you even wake up in the morning?

You guys keep saying: wait until the 527s… for like months now. Face it, no 527s will be able to save McCain now, he is toast.

Don’t you have some more Obama voters to register down at the local methadone clinic?

bama looks like such a jack ass in th video with his fake smile

I don’t think anyone doubts the clintons are looking out for their “political asses” we are just watching how far they are willing to put their “political assses” above their supporters and the better of the country.

o.k.?

Nothing like a man — a lay man at that — telling women about babies and genetics. And we all thought that Tom Cruise was the only crazy. You and Damon are right up there. Unless you have access to the Governor’s genetics makeup you are blowing smoke …. out your ass.

Hey don’t call him a prick! That is part of a man, and this mujahadeen wanna be is inhuman just like his master Soetoro.

Obviously you feel I’m connected.

Connected to what? I merely pointed out your argument is flawed logically.

What a waste of audio time..um..um…no..no..wait…um..um..Dumbo Obama has said enough. God Obama makes me ill.

Seriously, that is about the dumbest fucking post I have ever seen here. People with Down’s Syndrome have definite challenges, but they can also lead very happy and fulfilled lives.

And who the fuck are you to question a mother’s decision on what to do with her unborn child?

You are a 24-karat asshole.

Your restating of Dem talking points (religious wacko) is just so impressive. Nice try.

Would you like to link to a source for that? Other than the top of your f^cking small head?

That’s why his intrade numbers are moving up.
And he’s attracting huge crowds.

And he’s raising more money than Obama.

Face it, you’re just a people-hater.

When did Obama call him names? Do you have an example?

Huh?
If you are looking for transparency in government, consider the fact that Gov Palin posted the Alaska state checkbook online for her constiuents to view as they wished.

You can, however, view clips of the Obama children being used as political props on Entertainment Tonight.

Yeah, that needs to be edited out for the movie.

I’m looking forward to “The rise and fall of Barak Hussien Obama”

freedom fighter…

you, “sir,” are an IDIOT. keep posting your neanderthal blather. jeesh, you oblahmatrons are so predictable and…

LIARS.

mccain/palin ’08
puma

NATIONAL BOYCOTT DAY SCHEDULED FOR: SEPTEMBER 19

Our mission is to get Hollywood’s attention that it’s ok to pick your party but it’s not ok to insult your consumers by continuously making these wild accusations. Hollywood hates the National Enquirer but the statements and comments they’ve been making these days are absurd.

So boycott Hollywood for the entire day of 9/19 (until 11/4 would be even better):

Boycott all TV stations EXCEPT for FOX.
Do not attend go out to the movies
Do not purchase any newspapers or magazines EXCEPT for the New York Post
Do not rent or buy any movies ect………
Do not buy any music especially boycott Madonna, P-Diddy, Heart, etc………..
Boycott anything you feel is connected with these crazy Hollywood Pundit want to be’s.

Is there anything we can do to get Hollywood’s attention that it’s ok to pick your party but it’s not ok to insult your consumers by continuously making these wild accusations?

Really for someone with a HIGH IQ he’s not very bright..

24 carat asshole…I’m definitely going to start using that. Hilarious!

I’m as pro-choice as they come, but eff you. The choice to have Trig was Gov. and Mr. Palins’ choice, period. The only “suffering” to befall this couple regarding their choice to have Trig seems to be the suffering that might be caused by comments such as yours.

Me too. I agree with you…

sorry, I disagree.

Not 24k.
More like base metal.

Since I didn’t see the interview, I don’t know if I agree with Ms. Shepherd or not.

I do think if a seventeen year old girl prefers to have an abortion and her parents are against it, that option is off the table for her. None of us have any idea if that is the situation here and theorizing it is, is fruitless.

It’s just as probable that Ms. Palin wants to have her baby. Maybe she would prefer adoption over raising the child and her mother’s career choices are preventing it. If this is the case, Ms. Palin has options and I’m sure she’ll choose what is best for her.

It’s also possible that Ms. Palin wants to have her baby, raise the child and marry her boyfriend. The marriage part is where I think parents have to turn against public opinion (whether it’s the neighbors on the block or the American public). Teenage marriages have a dismal success rate, especially when a baby is involved. Wise parents support their daughters’ choices but lobby against marriage. Suggesting instead that the daughter wait two years after the child’s birth and if she still wants to marry her boyfriend then, they’ll support the marriage.

It’s difficult being a teenage mother. The difficulties are increased in a teenage marriage.

In my opinion, which doesn’t matter since Ms. Palin isn’t my daughter, there would be no marriage for at least two years. I find it difficult to agree with the Palins’ if their decision is to have a wedding as soon as possible. Maybe it stops the tongues from wagging, but there are better options for the teenage mother, including having her child, raising her child with the support of her parents and waiting at least two years before marrying the father of the child. The answer isn’t always abortion, adoption or marriage and all three can have devastating effects emotionally on the teenager’s life.

The Palins’ haven’t given a date for the wedding and it wouldn’t surprise me if it isn’t anytime in the near future or that it never happens.

Obama can have this damned socialist party and good riddance come November.

Sarah Palin is a powerful politician and has the resources. What message would this send to other women who many not have the same resources? Please read the eye opening article. Sarah Palin is no role model to women.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/09/sarah-palin-dow.html

I know that you are spraying your nasty spittle at your poor monitor, but try to stay on message. Cybill = Entertainment Tonight. Governor Palin = ABC News with Charlie Gibson … just in case you’d like to F’ING LEARN something dickhead.

Holy CRAP!

“where the ultimate result would be suffering for all involved”

Wow! a DS baby bringing about End of Times! Good thing you can read minds and know that Palin’s family is ‘suffereing’.

What happened to compassion? What happened to love?
Eugenics isn’t better than ANYTHING! EVER!

Obama really is turning out to be the reincarnation of Hitler and his followers little Nazis. Who knew? I’m waiting for them to say they need a lampshade made from Trig’s flesh.

Is it just me or is anyone else boggled by this stuff? I can’t even get my brain around Obot comments like this. What the hell is going on??

Astute observation. The trolls are getting a hardon trying to on the one had use Bill to help prop up the falling Ohitler and on the other hand use him as a weapon against us PUMAs. I’m laughing my ass off watching this considering what the trolls and Ohitler did to the Clinton’s in the primary.

ew gross that is nobody’s friggen business what she does with her OWN BODY

if she want’s to have procreate it is entirely HER RIGHT and NO BODY’s DAMN BUSINESS

not the LOONEY BALOONEY LEFT OR THE WRETCHED FAR RIGHT

(that is the only thing I am supporting here)

HER (and her families) BUSINESS

Women don’t create monsters out of love.
She seems like a very loving woman and she’s had MORE friends and co-workers interviewed in the last 48 hours than ANYONE has interviewed even ONE OF BARRY’s SCHOOL CHUMS OR long time buddies

other than ayers, wright and we know what kind of MONSTERS they turned in to……………… God help their mothers

Nancy, thanks for the post.
This young woman has parents, siblings, and healthy looking grand-parents by her side…and the young father is also standing with her!
She does not need tramps like these dictating to her!
Yes, I have enjoyed Cybil’s work in the past, but that does not mean I respect HER lifestyle!

Would you people stop with the emotional knee jerk reactions? I am not against Palin’s choice, I am just saying she sets a bad example. Please read this article.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/09/sarah-palin-dow.html

I’ve been saying some of Obama’s supporters make me think of the Hitler youth movement and/or cult followers.

If you watch it with no volume, you will notice that Bill never once looks at zero and that zero looks at Bill as if Bill’s words are keeping his dream alive. Watch it again.

If perfection is what people were looking for in reproduction then none of us would be here today.

BREAKING NEWS!!!

Check out realclearpolitics.com!!! Ton of new polls that came out today!!!!

Well, it reflects the downside of abortion rights. A female hounded, by the male who impregnated her (or her family) to abort as to not inconvenience them. Due to the “feminist” storm around the Palin family, the truth of this downside is there for all to see. One way or another, we females have someone up in our reproductive organs, or dictating how we behave during pregancy (which also involves choice about our bodies). “Choice” is all fine and good, as long as we “choose” what others dictate.

OMG, look at O-butthead! “we’re putting him to work” LOL. He is like salivating to have the Clintons carry his *ss in the GE. What a loser!

I hope your brother is at peace.

Cybil Shephard
Matt Damon
P.Diddy

These people are NOBODYS!!!

I’d like to hear from REAL stars and activists like
Harry Belafonte and Sydney Poitier.

What do they think of Obama?

I guess I can get my answer from their very loud
ABSENCE……

Anonymus @ 12:46:38

What are you crying about? Have you watched the video? Bill clinton knows after he has completed his gobal initative work, obama will be toast. Did you see how clinton never acknowledged obama in the clip? Never looked at him acknowledged he was speaking nothing, nada, zero. I might as been standing there instead of obama!

Clinton realizes he just got something for nothing because by the time bill”the big dawg” gets around to doing things for obama, obama will be toast.

Also did you notice how intimated obama was? No arrogance-he actually looked humbled before the big dawg. I bet you bill tore him a new one during their “lunch”.

BTW, isn’t bill still a racist? Oh maybe he was just a temporary racist? So i guess blacks can go back to liking bill again because his time as a racist has expired. Somebody should let the EEOC know about this temporary racist status-they are going to have to amend a lot of civil rights laws.

PUMA

Freedom? Fighter says…

Sarah Palin knowingly brought a baby with a genetic defect into the world, where the ultimate result would be suffering for all involved.

On what f@cking planet are you considered a democrat?
In what den of cold blooded lizards were you raised?
People with mental and physical handicaps are such a drain on humanity that they should always be aborted? Is that what you are seriously saying here?

Look, I have no problem with a woman making this decision when faced with it. But it is a DECISION. Meaning, more than ONE choice.

And who is doing all this suffering you refer to? Certainly not the Palin’s.
You, Freedom Fighter, could benefit greatly from hanging around people with Down’s Syndrome. Please do some volunteer work. I think you will quickly change your mind about who benefits from whom. You most certainly would expand your very limited opinion on what the term “humanity” means.

(and I have no idea why you think anyone should value Matt Damon’s opinion in a political discourse. He is a voter like anyone else and is entitled to his opinion, but you reference him like his words should have more weight than average Joe. Matt Damon is average Joe in this arena. Maybe you meant to post on a teen beat website?)

I think that we should cut the Clintons a little slack up through election day. If they still support Obama after that, then, that’s a problem.

Fuck that article–you yourself are the bad example.

the book burning has long since been debunked (a little slow today trollie)

AND her OWN father is a retired Science Teacher. I rather doubt she is a flaming radical biblical literalist

but to be honest if it came down to HER beliefs versus BAMBI’s black liberation theology brain washing over the last 20 yrs????

I’d probably take the Palin brain washing (of which I think even SHE backed off of the happy juice and joined a more moderate church, with age comes wisdom)

of course you don’t want to give her a chance you are a selfish, prick of a troll

Hmmm, Cybill Shepard claim to fame was that she was a 16 magazine model and did like 3 seasons of Moonlighting where Bruce Willis was the true star. What is she doing these days from a political standpoint that we should respect her opinion? Yep, nothing comes to mind.

I have a feeling explaining the mechanisms of cell biology to you would be a waste of time.

Oh, stop making an ass of yourself on a public forum. She is NOT a religious zealot.

Obama is going to hurt quite badly this week-end with the news on the hurricane and everybody remembering the Palin is the lipstick on Letterman.

It gets even better. My anti-Palin friends claim the father is scared to death because Palin has a real shot-gun and is forcing a real shot-gun wedding.

They love seeing women as vindictive and punitive ala Hillary Clinton smear as well. The prejudices exist first, then they get projected outside themselves. I see them as forcing a shot-gun marriage of their predjudices on Sarah Palin, but that is their “gut” reactions for their own fears and failings.

These will not stick and serve to bring hidden ugliness that few others relate too. Everything a dark fear hits sunlight, it dissolves and disappears. It is time for fears about “women” as punishing harridans comes to light, and die.

Women will see the monster in themselves in others first, and then only later finally own it in themselves. This is just step one and a good one to be experiencing.

Too bad Bristol didn’t get an abortion.
Oh well, she deserves to be punished.
She deserves all the crap her mother is dumping on her.
They’ll be divorced within 5 years.
Looks like her mother is already dumping her own baby on the kid while she skips around the country.

BTW, isn’t bill still a racist? Oh maybe he was just a temporary racist? So i guess blacks can go back to liking bill again because his time as a racist has expired. Somebody should let the EEOC know about this temporary racist status-they are going to have to amend a lot of civil rights laws.

If Ohitler needs a racist to prop him up that means Ohitler condones racism. Oh sorry Bill was just a temporary racist as needed for political expediency. My bad!

Remember the McCain hug for “W” after McCain’s family was trashed and they said McCain sold out his fellow POWs? I think John is getting the last laugh on W and Rove.

I was thinking along the same lines.

And McCain proceeded to become a thorn in W’s side all during Bush’s administration.

I’m already doing all the things you mentioned. It’s been Fox news for many months & I like it.

After the hosing Bill got from the BO fanatics I find it unbelievable that he really means it. In his heart I believe that he hopes BO crashes and burns.

HRC2012

damn straight

QUOTE:

“BTW, isn’t bill still a racist?”

That’s why Hillary and Bill (especially) are doing
this.

Even if Hillary never runs again, Bill is well on
his way to recapturing his legacy as America’s
“FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT”.

Nobody in the AA community will be able to ever
call him RACIST or vilify him again!!

JJjr and Clyburn and their ilk have egg on their
ugly faces. They are the liers for the whole world
to see.

OK, you are workin’ on my last nerve today, Mr. Murder.

Perhaps YOU will show us an example that Barky even knows what a budget is.

I am not against Palin’s choice, I am just saying she sets a bad example.

she sets a bad example of what?
You are against her giving birth to a DS kid. And you think she sets a BAD example to other parents who find themselves with this choice? Stop trying to wiggle out of a stand you purposefully took the time to type out and post.
Your reasoning is sickening by any civilized standard.
There is nothing knee-jerk about people’s abhorence to your views.

lmao I just fully read your name

lmao – fully caged of course! Because we don’t want free range popcorns running around!!!

teehee! that’s really funny!

Bill wants Obama to pay off Hillary’s campaign debt. It is worth it to say anything.

No, beverly leslie it is not ok. What you are asking of the Clintons is not how to change the party or change politics. If your suppport of Hillary and Bill is that shallow that you cannot see them through this general election season, then you are a fair-weather supporter at best. Those two have played the political game and played it better than most. If you truly want Hillary, and not Palin, to become the first woman President you should trust their political instincts. They are simply doing what they have to and must do.

A. Harvard attendance and high IQ are not connected. Any. At all.
B. The most childish adults that I have ever met were members of MENSA. Think about that for a while.

{Tom}

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/

Matt Damon claims he knows nothing about Sarah Palin, then wonders aloud wether she believes that dinosaurs were here 4000 years ago. Hasn’t he made up his mind already based on her religious convictions?

Another example of a hollywood hack trying to flex intellect. Umm Matt, dinosaurs weren’t here 4000 years ago. You pompous, pseudointellectual ass. If you can’t get something this factual correct, are we to trust your choice for president with nuclear weapons?

Let me add one more thing to my name.

I LOVE BILL CLINTON!

But lets not forget, he has lied before to save his skin.

I do not begrudge him the right to do whatever he can to keep the focus off of himself and Hillary by saying and doing whatever he has to do to tow the party line and look like he supports Obama.

But we all know that when the curtain closes on that voting booth, Obubbah is gonna stick it to Obummer.

And so will Annie Oakley!

Thanks Monet, you took the words right out of my head. My gut reaction since it was first announced that Bristol Palin was pregnant was that I wasn’t as concerned about her being pregnant as I was about the engagement. 17 and pregnant? Ugh, not exactly ideal. 17 and pregnant and marrying the also-young father? Quite probably a disaster in the making! Your comments above sound very much like a conversation my own mother and I had about Bristol when the news came out.

It is very antiquated thinking to assume that just because a young woman gets pregnant and keeps the baby she automatically has to get married to the father. It does not necessarily make a less-than-ideal situation any better.

“The women’s movement is going down in flames. It’s credibility is floundering. Does the ERA apply only to those who are pro-choice?”

The ERA doesn’t apply at all, we’re still waiting for it.

Over the past twenty years, the conservative right has chipped away the rights of young women under the age of eighteen. Their access to birth control is difficult unless their parents approve. They don’t have the choice of an abortion unless their parents approve.

If a pregnant seventeen year old girl doesn’t want to marry her boyfriend and her parents insist on marriage or else they’ll kick her out (which I don’t think has happened in the Palin family), she may have no where else to turn.

Ms. Shepherd applied the lack of options for teenage mothers to the Palin family. Which opened her to attack. Take the Palin family out of the picture and Ms. Shepherd is right, teenage girls often have no choices, their parents hold the right of choice.

I disagree vehemently with this author that the women’s movement is going down in flames. The flames have been flickering out for the past two decades, starting with putting parental rights over a teenage girl’s right to determine her options where a pregnancy is concerned. This works both ways. If a fifteen year doesn’t want an abortion, she’s going to have to go to court to stop her parents. If she does want one and her parents refuse, once again – she has to ask a court to intervene.

The conservative right has been holding our uteruses and birth control methods hostage for the past three decades. And now if we’re pro-choice and believe every woman regardless of age should have the ability to make her own choice without state or parental intervention (abortion, pregnancy to term, adoption or marriage), we’re taking the woman’s movement down in flames.

So much for the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness applying to all women. Just the women who are pro-life.

fake troll

WHAT?

Ah, so now your mantra is Kill Trig. Nice. So you’re saying you’re only pro choice when the choice is an abortion.

Weired, I’m pro choice for letting the person CHOOSE.

Good lord it’s almost laughable if it wasn’t so sad.

With(out) Respect,
Patrick

Matt Damon should stick to his grade B acting.

and Meeeechelle is the ideal role model for women?

and STFU about Sarah and Trig. People like you make me sick.

Oh goodie. A blog from the home of those truly “giving” women … LOS ANGELES. Please. They don’t take garbage out until closer to closing time here and your link is stinking up the place.

Obama’s lead in PA is down to 3 points.

Good job, Soebama! Kerry took the state by two points in 2004.

Looks like Biden’s Magical Scranton roots bounce never happened. Maybe Obama will scrap Chateau Joe in favor of Senator Casey.

lol musical veep candidates.

Obama forces have not been able to bring Palin down. Now they are worming their way into her family to try and break her down. They did it with their fake pregnancy charge because the Palins did go public to stop that vicious rumor. They know this tactic can work.

And Obama sits by silent because now he is ticked he is losing. Courage Sarah and Bristol and Todd – yes, the Dems are after your family because they want only to destroy you.

This is Swift-boating. Don’t let the Dems take you down. I am sorry you have to go through this, but this too is American politics. You are above and beyond this.

It is not about your family. Your family’s honor is not at stake. They just want to run a stake through the heart of the Palin candidacy. These people will stop at nothing – too many tax payer funded union jobs and benefits are at stake for them to lose. They will stop at nothing — except your ability to withstand them and let them twist slowly in the wind on their own.

Obama is friends with terrorist Bill Ayers so wonder what their plans would be if they got inside the whitehouse. Blowing up more buildings?

What are you pissed about?

Your mother brought you into the world knowingly and you are no prize peach sweetie!

You may want to check this out:
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/09/11/loudon-reds-radicals-terrorists-and-traitors-progressives-for-obama/

You will se Belafonte listed there, among others.

Love, compassion and highly valuing life is setting a bad example?

And Obama followers think Oshit is Jesus? You do realize that if you take the Bible as a literal historical text, the individuals that Jesus healed most likely had birth defects that caused or exacerbated their condition. Can’t remember reading about Jesus telling their moms’ they would have been better off killing their offspring. Guess I missed that part.

And before you say that abortions weren’t available back then, poisons that could induce abortions were.

I still can’t get over the incredibly heartless comment. Oshit’s party sucks.

Freedom Fucfighter said:

Sarah Palin is a powerful politician and has the resources. What message would this send to other women who many not have the same resources? Please read the eye opening article. Sarah Palin is no role model to women

Are you that freaking stupid, women have been making the same decision for YEARS. Sometimes money have nothing to do with it.. Sometimes its about LOVE of their child..

Same here. Been boycotting those who HAVE TOO MUCH for over a year now.

Freedom Fighter

Your comment is deeply flawed in so many ways.

The disability is in your thinking and that is what is scary.

We are all only temporarily able-bodied.

Obama is living proof that Cain found a wife among the animals in the land of Nod. Obama is a fucking neanderthal BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Dem Party, Obama cult and public employee union game plan:

1. Destroy Sarah Palin for lack of experience – didn’t work.

2. Destroy Sarah Palin for being a bad mom – didn’t work.

3. Destroy Sarah Palin claiming she is corrupt – didn’t work.

4. Destroy Sarah Palin calling her a liar and hypocrite – didn’t work.

5. Destroy Sarah Palin by viciously and intimately attacking her family – pending…………

You know the Nazis ‘euthanized’ the ‘defectives’ in their society. Seems like you agree with them. Who’s freedom are you fighting for anyways?

Piper didn’t look like she was suffering as she was “ministering” to her younger brother’s hair ….

Not every family can do what the Palins did. Those who can’t are not “bad” and those who make the choice the Palins did are not “bad.” That is why it is F’KING CALLED CHOICE.

she sets a bad example of what?

She sets a bad example of destroying his shitty candidate.

great post, well spoken and to the point.

I think, hope, you are right. There have been rumors circulating that they are getting ready to dump Biden and appoint Hillary VP – what a disaster that would be.

Maybe Bill got them to agree to forget that plan if he announced to the world that Barkey is still possomus.

Sweetheart, all of those things have already been proven false. If you want to come in here and sling shit, get your facts straight first.

uh, teenage girls have no choices?? how about abstinence and birth control!! When a 17 year old wants to have an abortion it should be by parents permission only. In all respects, a 17 year old is considered a minor and the responsibility of her parents. When society starts exterting some demand for accountabiity then perhaps people will curb their irresponsbile behavior.

All those really nice people died 7 years ago and you are still here?

That article says Palin is a bad example because women could follow suit and that would result in fewer abortions?

I wrote that as a question because I cannot wrap my head around it.

I’ve got news for you: Pro-choice people WANT fewer abortions to occur. No one “loves” the idea of abortion, sick-o. The pro-choice agenda is simply that abortion be legal and safe and available; it’s not pushing for as many abortions as possible. WTF? Any pro-choicer will tell you that any child that is truly wanted by the parents should be born, that any pregnancy embraced with joy and gratitude is a pregnancy worth continuing. That’s what choice is all about.

Me pissed? You guys are the ones making irrational, emotional, and profanity laced replies.

WOW, demorats reach an all new low. The angry left is criticizing someone for not killing an unborn.
I am sure this will play real well throughout america.
Isn’t this what carol fowler said yesterday? Is this the new Obamarats MEME? Hate Palin she loves children?
You guys really have a screw loose. If you think a majority of americans agree with your disgusting beliefs, you have lost all sense of reality and sarahbaracuda is living rent free in your heads.

Keep this up, to say LIVING children should be aborted, to say a young women willing to take responsibility for her actions like she should, well it just really shows how sick you guys are. To much death in iraq for the angry left but a republican kid should be aborted?
Your disgusting and have no moral argument or no decency or humility.
You wanna cry rove politics? The angry left has gone insane.

Stop the dishonesty. I never made an argument for euthanasia.

Whacko, he sent his surrogate Jim Clyburn to paint Bill Clinton as a racist. And please don’t pull the ‘but Obama didn’t say it’ crap. BO’s hard-core minions may be gullible saps the rest of the world isn’t.

Hi IQ is 125. That is above average but by no means is that an extraordinary IQ.

Palin can believe whatever she wants, wear a tinfoil hat and dance the can-can and I will still vote for her and McCain as will many other Americans.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

Now you can go back to Chicago, Obama!

You’ve accomplished what the powers-that-be wanted you to:

You’ve taken the Clintons down!

Camille Pagila writes on Salon.com
“Conservative though she may be, I felt that Palin represented an explosion of a brand new style of muscular American feminism. At her startling debut on that day, she was combining male and female qualities in ways that I have never seen before. And she was somehow able to seem simultaneously reassuringly traditional and gung-ho futurist. In terms of redefining the persona for female authority and leadership, Palin has made the biggest step forward in feminism since Madonna channeled the dominatrix persona of high-glam Marlene Dietrich and rammed pro-sex, pro-beauty feminism down the throats of the prissy, victim-mongering, philistine feminist establishment.”

I don’t agree on much with Ms. Pagila but I agree with her on this one.

Bill looks like someone’s holding a gun to his head.

I don’t buy it, not one second of it.

If he really wanted to help the guy, he’d delegate or postpone whatever other work he’s doing and hop on the trail TODAY.

very very awkward.

Does that mean McCain has to defend everything by Larry Johnson? Even I wanted wish that on him. And I don’t remember Clyburn calling him a racist. you have a source? Here is the quote I found.

“Many of the surrogates in the Clinton campaign of recent days have been saying things that have been angering African American voters over again,” he said. “I mean, who played the race card on President Clinton? … What does he mean by that unless he is trying to send some kind of signal on race?”

This was true.

A) They have lower fertility.
B) DS mothers miscarry more frequently.
C) 1 parent is 50% chance, 2 parents still not 100% chance though high.
D) Most DS “couples” use birth control or sterilization.

The point is, you advocate killing the DS person before birth because they’re not perfect. You and Hitler are right on the same page. Just depends upon your definition of perfect, or justified life.

is there even a kernel left after all that?

I bet I need LOTS of salt and butter, don’t I?

hehe

i agree with the poster of this piece. except for the assumption that since palin is pro-life her daughter, by being “raised” by her would have to be.
Nah. that’s not so. let’s give the kid credit for free will. she wants to have the baby, that’s fine.
mommy didn’t push her into the decision, and didn’t
control her thought pattern into teen age years either.

Freedom Fighter – You’re obviously not college educated because you equate going to Harvard with a high IQ.

Obama was admitted to Harvard because his father was a graduate of Harvard.

Going to any university and graduating just says you’re able to go to class and take the exams.

No, you argued for in utero euthanasia. Look I disagree with Palin’s stance on choice, but that’s not what you were talking about. You said she ‘knowingly brought a baby with a genetic defect into the world’ and then went on to talk about the likelihood of his offspring also have the same ‘genetic defect’ (See your 50% comment.) Stop your own dishonesty.

That is why they are so mad. SHe is the embodiment of so many things that mean so much to so many poeple. Without saying a word she embody’s the republican movement. She embodys feminism that appeals across the board to women.
She undermines the entire angry lefts monopoly on women. The left is all about gender politics and acting as they are the one and only spokesman of whats right for women.
I don’t think women really feel that way but since they play identity politics dems get alot of women because they speak to them. But Sarah palin offers those tired of Roe v Wade as a leash and all of the lefts abortion at every stop, she offers them a homegrown american made everywomen that lives her beliefs.
Sara Palin is changing politics in a fundamental way and tearing down barriers of party affiliation that have been burned into the landscape of politics for decades.
She is real change on many levels, many more so than Obama. SHe has a real record of accompl;ishing change. She uses he career to promote change. Obama uses change to promote his career.

No, Belafonte and Denny Glover are for Cynthya
McKinney:

http://www.theipinionsjournal.com/uploaded_images/cynthiamckinnyj-766897.jpg

did i say pissed? i meant to say what are you complaining about?

Really, its none of your business if the Palins chose to bring Trig into the world even with the challanges he will face in life.

I mean, look at you, you are no prize pumpkin, you troll for 7 dollars an hour for a fake messiah. I am sure if by your standards, there was a genetic test to determine if a child would grow up to be an a-hole you would want your parents to have aborted it, which would have meant we could not have this discussion.

Spoken like a true republican.

No but you are making a strong run for the title of Honorary Poster Child!

You know dragging religion into a Presidential campaign is very destructive. I don’t hang on every word from either camp, but it seems like NEITHER campaign is talking about religion much if at all. Why would you Obama supporters want to bring up something guaranteed to ignite a firestorm in your never ending quest to attack Palin? That is NOT good for your dear leader.

BO really has created a Frankenstein he can no longer control. His most faithful followers are his WORST enemy. I’d guess you’d call that ironic.

LogicallySpeaking,

Well i was a democrat my whole life until june.
Yes, you are right i am a now a true republican an am having such a laugh at this “new” demorat party stumble,trip, and insult poeple on a daily basis because sarah palin is the vp and Obama is just plain perplexed at the notion of this women.
And everything rots at the head so naturally his staff,surrogates, and supporters as Dennis Miller said last night they “don’t know whether to deficate or wind your watch”
Meltdown 3 2 1

EXPLOSION

I agree Bert. You can always tell the true supporters vs republicans when topics such as Hillary or Bill come up on this website.

I thought about this all night. When so many were getting excited yesterday about the possibility of Biden stepping down, and Hillary stepping in. It made me ill.

Everything we’ve did, we did for Hillary. Do you know how many times I’ve been called a racist? We all have. A bigot. White trash. Etc..etc. For what? For supporting Hillary!

Would anyone of us stay with a man that abuses us? I sure as hell wouldn’t. Not mentally or physically. Would any one of us tell our daughters it’s ok if a man treats you like that? Talks to you like that? To not stand up and fight for yourself? I would expect my daughter to be mentally strong enough to stand on her own. I will not do it for Hillary either. This is about Democracy. It is about our principles.

Are we now going to throw out everything we’ve been fighting for? Join in the sexist attacks against Sarah and her daughter? The vile attacks on her infant? That would make us better how? That would stop what happened this year the next time a woman runs how?

I will not support an Obama/Clinton ticket. If she is one of those women that want to ignore the abuse, keep putting up with the abuse…I’ll have lost all respect for her. If her husband is now going to tell us what was done to her was A-OK, so he could have a role in the White House. After she stood by him. I’ll loose all respect I had for him, and I had a lot.

I’ve defended Hillary campaigning for him because I know she still has a debt, and it helps her. For not getting too catty or saying too much because I know she’s up for re-election in 2010. We’ve all seen the cheap tricks, the asinine behavior that occurs when you go too strongly against the party. I still think Biden was trying to use a cheap pick-up line to get Hillary supporters on board, but if I am wrong…

Your quote proves my point and Jim Clyburn is a Democratic congressman from SC, not a guy who runs a blog. There’s a difference.

The decline and fall of Jim Clyburn in the upcoming finger-pointing, blame game that will commence in the Democratic party on Wed, Nov. 5 will provide a lot of pleasure. He is a giant RAT!

I 100% agree with Diana!

I am a democrat, btw!

I agree. The Clintons have allowed themselves to be used and they will pay the price. I deduce Biden praised Hillary because Obama has manipulated her so easily.

OK…let’s cut through the bullshit here. If I had a hottie boyfriend like Bristol Palin did at 17, NO ONE would force me to marry him!

Have you seen that kid? Holy shit. He’s gorgeous. He’s a catch. And he’s willing to marry her? He’s a keeper!

God people, have some common sense!!

True. They are pols and this is what they do.
At least the Clinton’s never pretended to be the false Saint that Obama claims to be.

I didn’t say you weren’t. But this website is 80% republicans. You can tell by the dramatics of posters whenever Hillary or Bill is mentioned.

Funny sounds to me like you and Bert could care less if Hillary runs in 2012. Is the President. For you, it’s anything to get a Democrat in office. Or could either one of you here calling us Republicans explain to us exactly how if she runs as Obama’s VP she will be able to run as POTUS in 2012? I await your answer.

Palin is dangerous. Trust her at your own peril.

Do you really want to support someone who
goes to an Anti-Semetic church?
Do you?

Do you really want to support someone who
is for banning books?
Do you?

Do you really want to support someone who
brought a sick child into this world to suffer.
Do you?

Do you really want to support someone who
will support the overturning of Roe V. Wade?
Do you?

Do you want to support an outright racist?
Do you?

Do you want to support an abusive mother?
Do you?

Do you want to support warmongering murders?
McCain and Palin are so.
Do you?

Matt Damon and Cybil Sheperd are right.
Sarah Palin is scary and dangerous.
She should never be allowed the Whitehouse.

[ADMINISTRATOR: HOW DEEP. YOU MAKE UNSUPPORTED ALLEGATIONS, THEN CITE TWO MOVIE STARS YOU'RE BANNED FOR THE COLLECTION OF YOUR WORTHLESS, UGLY COMMENTS THAT HAVE NO CONTENT OR VALUE.]

Thanks for setting that straight.

Getting married at age 17 is not employing common sense. IMO. Maybe you are being flip but I just don’t realize it. Hmmm.

I just think that this particualr instance of Bill saying that Obama will win is not going to change any voter’s minds. He has already stated that candidate X and candidate Y scenario. To me that was more powerful.

“Left” To “Right” Comparisons:

Stephanie Miller is Rush Limbaugh

Ed Schultz is Sean Hannity

Mike Malloy is Laura Ingraham

Randi Rhodes is Michael Savage

Democratic Underground is Free Republic

The New York Times is The Washington Times

Absolutely. Shtuey — great job.

The right to choose is the right to choose. Period.

..and don’t you think Bill knows the best way for Hillary to get into the Whitehouse?

Of course Obama will write a book after this — he’s already written two memoirs and hasn’t done anything remotely memorable!

I don’t believe that. Not for one second. I think Biden was trying to pick up Hillary supporters. Nothing more, nothing less. It didn’t work for me, I know a cheap pick-up line when I hear one.

Hillary hasn’t allowed herself to be used, yet. She’s done what she’s needed to, to try and help pay off her debt. She came out and said I will NOT be an attack dog against Palin. She can only do so much.

The Republicans aren’t going to open their arms up to her and say, “Come Hillary be a Republican, we will protect you.” She also has to think about her own career. That’s what we are fighting for.

The only thing I ask out of Hillary is to please let us do what needs to be done so you can run again in 2012 without the sexist attacks you had to go through this year. We’re establishing grass roots, we’ll be looking out for her in 2010. But, if she condones what has happened, she’ll be going against everything we’ve been fighting for. Not only for her, but for all women running for office. I cannot support that. I can’t.

Heaven help me, I was listening to Rush Limbaugh this morning and he got me laughing so hard I was in tears – of happiness.

He did such a great imitation of Bill Clinton. To paraphrase. Bill was thinking that he and Hillary really wanted Obama to lose so that she could run again in 2012, so he figured that he would campaign for Obama. The thinking being that if the conservative base isn’t already charged up enough about Sarah Palin, they would be if he started campaigning. That the last time the conservative right was so united was when he was running for President and that if it hadn’t been for Ross Perot, he’d never have been elected.

So don’t be sad. Bill knows what he’s doing. Thankfully someone in the Democratic party does.

This Display Of Outrageousness Is Not About Their Concern About Gov. Palin Or Her Family,It’s Barack Obama’s Skeleton Closet Crew Come To Rescue His Sorry Ass,Cybil Shepard,Matt Damon And The Rest Of That Hollywood Brainless Crew,Smell Fish,& Lipstick Pigs,So Now They See The Onslaught Of Attacks That Has Been Prevalent Against This Woman Ever Since It Were Announced That She Would Be The Republican Running Mate The Dems Has Launched An All Out War Against Her And Her Family,But This Shouldn’t Surprise Anybody,Hell They Did The Same Thing To Senator Clinton,But When The Big Guns Start Coming Out Of The Wood Work,Out From Under Their Rock’s,Got Their Holes,From Every Angle Imaginable To Man.

The Sad Part About This Is None Of Them Really Know Anything About This Woman,That’s Why The Democrats,& Oprah Styled Hollywood Skeleton Crew Are Popping Up All Over America,To Save Their (GOD)And If That Happens I Have But One Thing To Say (THE GOD”S MUST BE CRAZY).

Did Anyone Catch This Morning News On ABC When The Co-Anchor Come Out Against Governor Palin And Stated That The Troopergate Ignorance That Mr Monahan Had Proof Of Gov. Palin Abusing Her Powers,And That Their Were A Group Of Women Who Were Not Satisfied With Mrs Allen’s Performance,Well A Little Ways On Down The Road I Find Out That One Thing Has Nothing To Do With The Other,Those Disgruntled Women Has Their Own Agenda Being Pushed,Stating Gov Palin Has Not Done Enough To Alter The Abuse Of Women In Alaska,Excuse Me If I Get Dumbfounded,But Isn’t That Why She’s Taking So Much Heat Now For,Having This Woman Abuser Fired From His Job When It Never Should Have Come To The Governor Doing His Job In The First Place.This Person Whom All Of America Wants Gov. Palin Crucified For A Bully,Womanizer,Married 4 Times,Drinking Alcoholic Beverages While Driving,Which Is Another Violation Within It Self,Made Threats To Her Father In The Format Of I’ll Make You Eat A Bullet,If You Hire A Lawyer For His Daughter,& He Also Were An Illegal Moose Hunter,And This Is Just What’s Been Brought To The Attention Of American,I Wonder What Other Diabolical Dark side Of This Man That We Don’t Know About.

And People Would Rather Take This Man Word Over A Distinguished Governor For The Last Two Years Which The Media Should Be Made To Answer For All These If,Ands,Maybe,& Out Right Lies They Are Spewing In The Name Of Barack Hussein Obama,Let Me State This So All You Obama Ignorant Ass Nazi’s, It Don’t Matter If You Do Sucede In The Destruction Of This Woman Whom Has Done Nothing Except Run Oppose Of Your Savior,Hussein Will Get Nowhere Near The White House,Or Washington,DC For That Matter,If He Does It’ll Be Because He’s Their To Buy CRACK,And I Mean Both Kinds.

(PUMAPACNC08)

Comment by LogicallySpeaking
I just think that this particualr instance of Bill saying that Obama will win is not going to change any voter’s minds. He has already stated that candidate X and candidate Y scenario. To me that was more powerful.

Yes, I agree that statement told me all I needed to know about how he really felt.

Comment by LogicallySpeaking
..and don’t you think Bill knows the best way for Hillary to get into the Whitehouse?

No I do not. I think Hillary is quite able on her own to make her own decisions and to decide what should be done. I think him pandering, appeasing Obama is harming Hillary, not helping her. I’m sorry.

What I mean is…look at that boyfriend of hers. No one has to FORCE her to marry him. He’s a catch.

And generally speaking it’s not a “good idea” to marry at 17. But…on the other hand, isn’t Todd Palin Sarah’s high school sweetheart? Some of these young relationships ending lasting a lifetime whereas those people who “waited” end up divorced three times.

Well, NONE of what you wrote here actually applies to Palin, so I guess I’m in the clear with my support for her!

No I do not. I think Hillary is quite able on her own to make her own decisions and to decide what should be done. I think him pandering, appeasing Obama is harming Hillary, not helping her. I’m sorry.

I knew you were going to respond this way after I reread my comment, however, the point I was trying to make was that I am sure Bill and Hillary have talked a great deal about it and decided how much they are going to say about Obama in public.

Sorry, FF. You bloody well know better. Stop trying to perpetuate falsehoods and out and out lies. Why waste your time here? We know you know she’s none of those things. So go and play outside now.

It’s all been addressed and made official about the books, etc. Nothing there.

Wow what a Nazi like thought. There can be quality of life or value for someone with Downs Syndrom?!?

WTF I have many friends who have various disabilities yet I treasure my associations with all of them.

WHo are you to condem the life a treasured child. THese people, the Palins, chose to have Trig and they love him.

I am pro-choice but in case you for got you idiocincratic moron the key word is CHOICE!!!!

Mrs. Palin chose to bear her child. It is none of your fucking business and as long as you are willing to judge the quality of someones life so cheaply–”Genetic defect” you don’t get humanity.

You are no better than the Nazi enforcers deciding who has a right to live.
Go to hell. We kicked your asses in WWII. DOn’t you dare bring back that crap in the guise of quality of life.

Obama can talk with Bill but not with Hillary. He definitely gets some kind of problem with women!! Repugnant pig!

What better day to do it.

You may mean well but I don’t think so. I think you are just trying to provoke problems that don’t exist. Most of us are in this together, the aim is to defeat a candidate not fit for office. This being in the person of Barry Soetoro/Barack Obama.

It makes no difference if we are Democrat or Republican, we are in this together. An Old Arab move is divide and conquer and it ain’t gonna work here. That is how they enslaved people.

Country before Party and always America first

May we never forget 9/11 and the souls that were lost on that day.

May we never forget that Barack Obama said after 9/11 that he would stand with the Muslims.

May we never forget Bill Ayers after 9/11 saying that this about his groups bombings “we didn’t do enough”

Barack Obama we know who you are and who your friends are.

McCain/Palin 2008

Yeah, but no mental support. Which is something I have been fighting for for a very long time. Apparently, they’ve gotten it into their heads that this is something women take lightly. They sure concern themselves with out uterus’s enough. Like our uterus is any of their business.

I will never believe that a majority of women consider this an easy decision. Look at the woman that started the whole Roe V Wade thing. It is a very difficult decision for the majority of women. They need mental support. Not just an, “It’s done. OK good-bye.” Some of these women have strong support systems that help them. See them through. Other’s are not that lucky. It plays with their minds, if not years later.

There is a need to establish some sort of support system/group to address their mental needs as well. As I said, I’ve been suggesting this for years. Writing, calling.

They are now going into the prisons and registering felons to vote. Cannot imagine who they will vote for can you?

“Stanley Anne Dunham, you are knowingly bringing a baby with a genetic birth defect into the world!” screamed the horrified Madelyn.”Where the ultimate result will be suffering for everyone involved!!”

“Fuck you, Mommy! LSD is fun!” snarled the lascivious Teen Red. “Unca Frank gets the best acid from Party Head Quarters! Ask Pappy!”

I have said this for several days NOW(pun intended) …the stuff going on with Governor Palin is a f——- WITCH Hunt…so the Salem MA set will work..today the Boston Globe refers to Palin as the ‘Taliban”….Taliban my ass, when did any man really care about what they do to women in the Muslim religions more colorful places?

The hypocrisy of a woman actually demonstrating FREE will just scares the shit out of them doesn’t it???

Welcome to the 16th CENTURY. Let’s just set fire to her, OK?

Get real. The MSM and the Daily Kids and Butt On.Com have created a CRISIS that a WOMEN MIGHT BE VICE PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!

Not a fan of Madonna or anything she’s supposedly done for feminism…did bring a lot of skanky sleaze out for young women to copy.

However, Dietrich was certainly one of the most glamorous women of her era and was extremely brave. She stood up to Hitler and risked her life many times going to the front lines during the war to lift morale and perform for them. She was given many awards by the American and French governments. You wouldn’t have been shocked to find her carrying a gun tucked in her garter. Many women in that generation were sexy, glam and strong women men loved…How about Carole Lombard, hunted and fished with husband, Clark Gable. They didn’t emasculate their men but joined in with them.

Something really was lost with the 60′s feminism. Maybe Sarah can mirror for women some of what that is.

Comment by nobonomo
If Bill and Hill go out on the trail they will get Obama elected, they have that much power. Unless, this is all a smokescreen because the Clintons know that the GOP has some information that will sink Obama for good.

I’ve thought about this also, the problem I found with that scenerio is….who will it reflect back on? Obama? No it’s going to damage Bill and Hillary, because they’re the ones people trusted. People will say you knew! Especially if that tape of Michelle surfaces. You had to have known, yet you came out here and told us to vote for him anyway. Think we’re going to trust you again? It’s a no win situation. I seriously think they should do no more than they have to for him. It’s his job, not theirs to carry him to the White House.

He resembles her Dad, Todd. A good sign…:-)

This coming from someone quoting someone as being an expert that didn’t even finish high school! lol

I LOVE Bill Clinton, I really do. I LOVE Hillary Clinton even more.
BUT, I don’t like obama and will not vote for him, even at the request of two of the people I admire most. They are doing what they have to do as part of the democratic party so Hillary will be able to run in 2012 and I understand that. I know they are doing the absolute minimum that they are capable of because if they were full force, obama would be well in the lead. They will tow the party line, but they won’t step on bit beyond that because they are as disgusted with him as we are.
Bill IS capable of lying and he is doing so when he campaigns for the arrogant asshole. I won’t condemn him for it because he has to for his wife. I won’t condemn her for it (unless she attacks Palin because that would be a conflict of her ethics). I know they are doing what they have to, they show us on their faces that they don’t believe it and I will not vote for this farce of a candidate.

Oh please, oh great Freedom Fighter… Please tell us about that great education Matt has? Oh wait! I was wrong he did graduate high scool, started at Harvard then dropped out to begin acting with no degree. Not one, not even an Associates. And just what was he studying? Not to be a doctor. Yes he is a great authority on the subject, you should be proud of yourself for quoting him on it.

WTF?
Truth is truth. Abandon it for any motive and you become the other side. Or is it “Country First!”*

* except in instances where it isn’t

I don’t know when the time to tell Obama “enough is enough” is but there are valid points being made as to how long you hang with a man you and I all know is evil.
Bill needs to get an attack of kidney stones and wants his wife by his side. They need an escape hatch and they need it now.
Obama has sunk the party. He now wants to drag down Hillary right along with everyone else.
My advice: Get the hell out of Der Bunker and yesterday may be too late.

Anything is better than a crooked Democrat in the White House.

under the radar troll… trying to sneak in some koolaid….

Bert, I believe that is exactly what beverly leslie was saying. She is saying, yes, they are doing this because they have to. She is also saying that if they go TO far, and actually throw their fullhearted support behind the sexist asshole that it would show that support for them may not be deserved.
IF they go as far as to attack Palin just because obi wants them to, not because they want to, then they overstep the line.

She simply said, “yes, we know they’re doing it because they have to and we’re not holding that against them” and the “ok” was to let people know that she’s aware of it and we are all aware of it and we’re following along to see where it goes.
I don’t count that as a fairweather supporter, I count that as someone giving them the chance to do what has to be done even though we don’t like it much. We know they have to do it, it doesn’t mean we don’t support them, we just aren’t going to join them because we really don’t think they want us to join them anyway. obi doesn’t belong in the WhiteHouse but the Clinton’s are obliged to campaign for him.

Oops forgot to say what he was studying. It was English. Not medicine. Not Science. English.

I am so ashamed of my party. I am a dem against abortion unless it is for extenuating circumstances. Why wouldn’t Bristol marry her high school sweeheart. It was likely no matter if there is a baby in question or not. This is what lots of people do. Not everyone uses abortion for birth control. It vile. Besides, it’s personal family business that has nothing to do with governing.
I am ashamed of Hillary and Bill for backing a thug who stole the election. Now they have swallowed the kool-aide and are lieing that Obama will win. Fat chance. He no longer has Republicans or independents votng for him. Dems in congress got us into this war, tanked our economy and are propping up a terrorist thug for us to vote for. I’m sick of the lazy dems and I’m still one. As soon as I can get myself over to the elections office to change my party, the better.
Forget it Hillary and Bill. Sell your soul to the devil. Who cares? I want this corruption cleaned up and Palin is my gal now.

If Bill and Hill tolerate this vile sexist CRAP any longer, they have LOST ALOT of my respect. NO ONE is above that judgement. I gave Hillary $2300. I went to shale Bills hand. I have defended them against all sorts; but I refuse to surrender MY principles and convistions!!!

yes Perry. Anything is better than the crooked Dems.

YOU are definitely correct Zeke. The Clintons do need to find a way to not HAVE to campaign for this fool. They’ll find a way, they won’t allow this little prick to destroy their lives, they’re too smart for that. They’ve been holding their nose, campaigning mostly for the party, not neccesairly for him and they haven’t attacked Palin (I think this is important because if Hillary attacks the woman vp candidate, it would take away from her own appeal). I don’t want Hillary to have to compromise her own morals and ethics for the little prick and I don’t think she will, regardless of what the party may ask her to do. She has the standing and the ability to say no in a way that makes them think it was their idea to begin with. She (and Bill) is 100 times more intelligent than obi, dean, brazillenut, pelosi and the others put together. She’ll be ok and she’ll take care of it. I trust Hillary to do what’s right and not let them force her past the line she has drawn for herself as to how much help he gets.

You may mean well but I don’t think so. I think you are just trying to provoke problems that don’t exist. Most of us are in this together, the aim is to defeat a candidate not fit for office.

I do not like to see Hillary or Bill being trashed on this website. I know we are in this together but people have to be smart and realize that Republicans and Hillary supporters are friends only as long as the goal is NObama in NOvember.

*shaKe*

* conviCtions*

can’t type when I’m mad!

I had a psycho ex named bert and wanted to be sure to clear up what was being said because if you’re anything like the psycho, you wouldn’t have been able to catch it. No offense to you, I just make an extra effort when I see two people saying the same thing but not realizing it. (the name made me more willing to intervene just in case you ARE my psycho ex LOL)
As long as your real name isn’t Shirley, I don’t think it’s a problem LOL

Hillary’s support will drop like flies. I’m one. hear me dropping out of her base? buzz
The Clintons can’t be all too intelligent if they were victims of a rigged election and her constituents votes don’t count, but she and Bill are on the stump for terrorist Fraudbama.
Buh Bye Clintons. Telling us to vote for a terrorist crook is sickening. Anyone else seeing that the Dems are crooked?

Bill is great at keeping his image respected in the Democratic Party. He says but knows differently.

At any rate, this Pro-Life/Pro-Death argument is a farse/red herring.

There is only one possible, logical, reasoned position:

PRO-CHOICE.

From this Base Point/Top Root point of view you have two branches, for every private decision that concerns pregnancy.

A: I carry the child to term.
B: I abort the child at the earliest possible term while still being within the law.

From here we have the following:

A: State of Birth now branches two possible choices.
A1: I raise the child.
A2: I adopt the child.

B: No more decisions on the child-to-be are reasoned.

Now what they both entail are the decisions and responsibilities upon the Woman who determines which path they rightly own to make.

The results are the effects of the actions she takes and must accept, in her own mind, for the rest of her life.

Pro-Life attempts to make it a divide between External Moralists vs. An Immoral Woman.

This is cocka.

I expect every Pro-Life person who proclaims to determine the rights of the unborn above the rights of the Living to adopt every child currently waiting in orphanges for a home.

To proclaim to be a Christian one adheres to the philosophical/moral doctrines of this Mythical Man/god. To leverage these doctrines for their Words/Logos/Laws and then to have your actions contradict these Words/Logos/Laws leaves a reasoned mind to conclude you to be of the Highest Immoral Character known to Humanity.

HYPOCRISY.

Do you really want to support someone who
goes to an Anti-Semetic church?
Do you?

Do you want to support someone who goes to a racist hate-filled church for 20 years?
Do You?

Do you really want to support someone who
is for banning books?
Do you?

Do you want to support someone who votes for FISA when they were originally against it?
Do you?

Do you really want to support someone who
brought a sick child into this world to suffer.
Do you?

Do you want someone that voted against the Infants Born Alive act. So that if a late term fetus is born alive you couldn’t give it any medical care?
Do you.

Do you really want to support someone who
will support the overturning of Roe V. Wade?
Do you?

Do you want someone that said they wouldn’t prosecute anyone that took your minor daughter across state lines to have an abortion?
Do you?

Do you want to support an outright racist?
Do you?

DO YOU?

Do you want to support an abusive mother?
Do you?

Do you want to support someone who doesn’t go see their dying mother?
Do you?

Do you want to support warmongering murders?
McCain and Palin are so.
Do you?

Do you want to support someone that has questionable ties to people that hate America?
Do you?

I’d like to ehar from Cher or other super stars and not these piddly little nobody’s who think they are somebody.
OBAMA IS SO YESTERDAY.

Do you really want to support someone who
goes to an Anti-Semetic church?
Do you?

Do you want to support someone who goes to a racist hate-filled church for 20 years?
Do You?

Do you really want to support someone who
is for banning books?
Do you?

Do you want to support someone who votes for FISA when they were originally against it?
Do you?

Do you really want to support someone who
brought a sick child into this world to suffer.
Do you?

Do you want someone that voted against the Infants Born Alive act. So that if a late term fetus is born alive you couldn’t give it any medical care?
Do you.

Do you really want to support someone who
will support the overturning of Roe V. Wade?
Do you?

Do you want someone that said they wouldn’t prosecute anyone that took your minor daughter across state lines to have an abortion?
Do you?

Do you want to support an outright racist?
Do you?

DO YOU?

Do you want to support an abusive mother?
Do you?

Do you want to support someone who doesn’t go see their dying mother?
Do you?

Do you want to support warmongering murders?
McCain and Palin are so.
Do you?

Do you want to support someone that has questionable ties to people that hate America?
Do you?

I don’t believe that 80% of the site is republican. I believe just the opposite and 80% of the site consists of Clinton Democrats who want to get rid of obi.
People have even tried to accuse ME of being a republican if I made a comment they didn’t like and you can’t get further from the truth than that.
I’ve been a Democrat my entire life, even before I was old enough to vote, but some of the “party over country” bunch are going too far. My Country will come first, especially after the DNC screwed us over and stuck us with this unqualified, unvetted, unintelligent, sexist, racist asshole as a candidate. I’ve been a Democrat my entire life, but I am willing to leave the DNC behind if they are going to change to marxism for the good of dean and obi. I am 100% non-negotiable Clinton Democrat and will support Hillary for the office of POTUS as long as she is willing to pursue it, but I don’t want to see her compromise her own ethics and morals and dirty her hands with this sexist, racist pig that’s running on the ticket. It would hurt my opinion of her. I would end up forgiving her, but it would bother me a LOT.
Those who shout “Republican” at anyone who they think disagrees with them in any way are the ones causing issues. It’s as bad as the obi camp shouting “racist” left and right when they are the only racists in the mix. Most of the time they shout at someone, the person had said the same thing they were saying but in a different way and they didn’t bother to read it clearly. If somebody says they are a Democrat on this site, I’m going to give them the benefit of the doubt until they blatantly give themselves away.
All of us should read twice before we decide to attack someone and call them a republican or a troll or we’re going to splinter the party even more than it already is. I am a Democrat but I don’t agree with what the DNC is doing right now and I will never vote for obi no matter what.

Sorry double post in response to above comment from Daily Kos Hate Site!

Diana, you make a very astute observation.

THIS is an example of someone who is most likely a nobama person as opposed to a Democrat.

That’s fine, if you help us do away with barky, then great, but we won’t turn on either Clinton because they ARE the Democratic party.

obi is not CAPABLE of manipulating Hillary. She is 100 times his superior in every way, shape and form. Without the election fraud and illegal activities at the caucus level, he would never be where he is. The DNC (dean, pelosi, brazille, obi etc) manipulated the election but they WILL NOT and CAN NOT manipulate Hillary.

exactly

Excuse me bert-Hillary is selling us out. Our votes do not count. I need someone to stick up for me and not go against me like Hilla and Billa are doing now. Gag me. Let them stump for the terrorist idiot who stole the election all they want. I’m never voting for any of them ever again.

fictional memoirs at that. most of what he wrote was pure lies and what wasn’t was changed so much from the truth that it wouldn’t be recognizable.
He almost gave himself away several times though and he WILL make the ultimate slip eventually, he’s getting closer and closer every day.

Someone remove this vileness from daily crap that’s posted here twice. I love Plain and will vote for her. I’m on my way to get my dem registration changed to Repun right now. I’ve seen enough and don’t want to see anymore Dem corruption or be associated with it.

the only way I’d want to see Hillary as vp to the sexist, racist asshole is if we knew obi was going to be removed due to his lies. I won’t say that some right wing whacko should do something horrible because that would make him a martyr. We don’t want him dead, just GONE.
Shamed would be even better, especially if it was something that caused the black community to throw HIM under the bus.

LMAO
527′s don’t usually hit until mid October. It’s early yet. Obi is going to be one sad, whining, hatefilled SOB. His sexism and racism and elitism are going to bite him in the ass and it won’t be pretty.

Ahhhhh, I can’t wait to watch him go down in flames so Hillary can rise from the ashes as the TRUE leader of the Democratic Party, just as she has been and should be. The CHANGE I want to see is the name on the top of the ticket.

it was “misunderestimated” I think…the double negative thing that made him look really stupid

oops, sorry, you fixed it already

It’s my understanding that her debt has been paid

obama does NOT have a high IQ. He may want you to think he does, but he certainly doesn’t.
Bill Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar and DOES have a high IQ as does Hillary. Just because obi is an elitist, racist, sexist pig does not mean he has a high IQ.

Please read post again. I am replying to their accusations with facts about Obama. Not attacking Governor Palin!

I found the numbers.
John McCain’s IQ is 133 according to his military records.
Barack Obama’s is 128 according to the few Harvard records he allows in the public eye.
Bill Clinton’s is 137 according to his college records.
Hillary Clinton’s is 140 according to her college records.
Sarah Palin’s is 128.
Michelle Obama’s is 107. She failed the bar exam the first time she took it.
The national average is 100. Below 70 is considered mentally handicapped.
For comparison, Einstein’s is 160, Steven Hawking is 160, Marilyn Vos Savant is 186 (world’s most intelligent woman), Madona, of all people is 140, Bush is 125, and my own is 148 (and is documented in my own college records).
It looks like McCain has 3 points on obi and Hillary has 3 points on Bill. obi only has 5 points on dumbya.
We all know that IQ doesn’t neccesarily indicate success, but it’s interesting to see the comparisons.
Obama is not a genius, he is a product of affirmative action.

Daily Kos Hate Site asked the original questions of Palin on post above. I was responding.

Parents are responsible for all other aspects of a 17-year-old-dependent’s medical care, and I know I’d have strong feelings about it I had a teenager who was pregnant . . . but I think the courts definitely should be available for kids who have less-than-understanding parents . . . and at times even that may not be enough (I know what it’s like to grow up in a _very_ small and conservative town) . . .

Do you realize that not all teenage pregnancies are unplanned (some kids really want a baby to love) and that not all unplanned pregnancies are the result of irresponsibility? I mean, if a teenage me had been a rape or date rape or incest survivor, or even just a smidgeon less cautious than abstinent ol’ I was, I sure as heck would have wanted to end a pregnancy . . . no matter what . . . and on the other hand, I have as an adult had an unplanned pregnancy that really opened my heart (I understand if some think I’m crazy, since it boggled my mind, but as early as three weeks I could feel a soul with me) . . . so I could never tell even a teenager that they _should_ end a pregnancy they wanted . . . because pregnancy can be _much_ more than a medical condition. And it’s precisely because I do believe that it can be much, much more than a medical condition that I always end up thinking pregnant teenagers should _not_ need their parents’ permission to abort or keep a pregnancy. The pregnant humans should have the power of choice, in my mind, precisely because it is primarily _their_ spiritual (and physical, emotional, etc.) issue, not their family’s or boyfriend’s.

It’s ideal that teenagers could talk to their families for guidance anytime they’re in a tough situation . . . but so few families are that ideal. The parents’ main influence has to come in raising and educating their kids _before_ they get pregnant, helping them be psychologically healthy and not be so starved for love and acceptance that they want to jump into more intimate relationships than they’re ready for.

Thanks for clarifying . . . like Maverick (I guess) I was just skimming down thinkin’ it was trollin’ . . .
Nice.

Anyone who has watched and listened to Bill Clinton through the years knows that when he dispenses a quick easy answer like, “Obama will win handily”, the irony meter is off-the charts. When Bill Clinton REALLY supports you he makes one of those famous Bill Clinton-type statements that make it seem like the language was invented for the sole purpose of Clinton making his point. When he throws out a tired, glib cliche, you know he ain’t really interested. Bill Clinton basically said, “Whatever, who cares?”

Great post, shtuey!!

I’m sure he’s a tiny example since he’s an inadequate example of everything else resembling manhood.

I have been reading these posts for over an hour now and my head is spinning and my eyes are burning, but before I sign off I want to comment on the Post by “Jack the Ripper”. I loved it. Rip “Freedom Fighter” another one. He needs help – I think he’s constipated.

As for all of you who defended Governor Palin and the decisions made by her and her daughter, I commend you. You have all stated my feelings much better than I could ever have. Thenk God there are people like you left in this country.

After much soul searching, I left the Democratic Party to which I had belonged for over 30 years because – to steal a phrase from Obama – It was no longer the Democratic Party that I knew.

I still have a great deal of admiration for Senator and President Clinton but I also feel like several others that what they do from here on in will determine whether I will ever support either of them again. They have done enough. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

The poor excuse that is left of the Democratic Party has humiliated both of them and any further association with that bunch can only tarnish them. Please, Bill and Hillary, think of your legacy.

Colleagues of mine are sending me frantic e-mails bashing McCain/Palin. These Obama supporters bashed the Clintons, Hillary in particular. Sarah Palin has come onto the scene and now they are scared. Boo Hoo! They were warned that the Republicans would go after Obama for his lack of a track record and his racist comments against “bitter small town” people, along with a host of other flaws. Not only that the Dems have bashed their base working class voters. This at a time when the middle class is desparately trying to survive. Now the Dems have decided they need working class voters. They came to this realization only after Palin received the nomination. Pathetic!! The Clintons should just be graceful and decline any offers to help the dying party.

Here’s my 2 cents on this. I am really finding it hard to listen to other females who worked so hard to bring women to a point that we can be our own individuals and yet, they are now applying the ugly double standard to women that they don’t share the same beliefs with. The purpose of attaining our own voice was to do just that — speak our own voice whatever it may be and have the opportunity that men have. To tell other women now that it is unacceptable to be who they want to be is just wrong. I salute those women who actually understand what the cause was about.

Yes, I’m completely aware that some teenage girls want to have babies and do their best to get pregnant.

I don’t think anyone under the age of 18 should be having sex. If you pressed me further, I’d say 21. However, what I think and 16 year olds think, are two different things. Nothing I say or do will keep a 16 year old from having sex who is determined to have sex.

Parents who do everything right end up with pregnant teens. Parents who screw up end up with pregnant teens.

I have friends who put their daughters on birth control when they have their first boyfriend. Others who stock the bathroom with condoms. I disagree with that. It wouldn’t be my method of dealing with teenage sex and I’m sure many people would say my head is in the sand, teaching abstinence goes only so far.

Kids are having sex, regardless of what we do. When a teenage girl discovers she’s pregnant, in my opinion, it’s her body, her baby. Her decision. Period. Whether or not she chooses to have the baby, it’s a decision that will impact the rest of her life and should be hers by law. If we give pregnant women over the age of 18 that privilege of choice, it should be extended to pregnant teenage girls under the age of 18. However, for a girl under 14 or 15, I do think her parents should have input.

“I don’t believe that 80% of the site is republican. I believe just the opposite and 80% of the site consists of Clinton Democrats who want to get rid of obi.”

I don’t know if I’d go as high as 80% Republican, but lately I’ve thought it’s over 50%. There’s no talk about how Governor Palin’s conservative views will impact the administration. Whether we are willing to risk voting for McCain/Palin if we knew Governor Palin would end up as president before 2012. Knowing her conservative views are much more right wing than Senator McCain’s, are we willing to risk putting her in a good position to win the presidency in 2012 or 2016?

I’m not on the Governor Palin bandwagon. I don’t know enough about her and want to hear more from her on her conservative religious views. Does she subscribe to Reaganomics? Is her answer to everything drill, drill, drill and sic it to the oil companies? Her record as governor doesn’t show much else. Although to be fair to her, she hasn’t even been in office two years.

Right now, I’m voting for Senator McCain and wishing that didn’t mean I’m also voting for Governor Palin. If I learn more about Governor Palin and feel I can risk a Palin presidency, I’ll vote McCain. If I don’t, I’m going to have to consider another alternative.

This past week, reading here I feel like it’s the Official Governor Palin fan club. I’m also wondering what has happened to all of Senator Clinton’s supporters and why they aren’t concerned about Governor Palin and want to learn more about her. Instead I see people who are opposed to vetting her. Anyone who wants to or is concerned about her policies is attacking Governor Palin and is sexist.

Author: “I suppose the next step would be to rescue Bristol from the Palin family, deprogram her, and force her to have a late term abortion. That’ll show those right wing fascists.

This has become a witch hunt pure and simple.”

Shtuey doesn’t have the faintest idea what pro-choice and reproductive rights are about. He’s clueless.

Cybill Shepherd doesn’t want Ms. Palin to have an abortion, what she wants is for Ms. Palin to have access to birth control and if she does become pregnant, to make her own choice about the pregnancy – whether that is to carry the child to term, raise the child or give the child for adoption or terminate the pregnancy.

Ms. Shepherd has been an advocate of women’s reproductive rights for decades. She isn’t out to hunt right wing conservatives. What she wants to ensure is that they don’t take away choice from any woman, regardless of her age and youth.

From a Larry King, April, 2000 interview with Ms. Shepherd:

” KING: You’ve always been pro-choice, right?

SHEPHERD: Always been pro-choice.

KING: Even growing up in an area where pro-life would have been sacrosanct?

SHEPHERD: I was very lucky. Very close family friend in 1966, a doctor, prescribed me birth control pills without telling my mother and without telling me. Just went for my first gynecological appointment, and he said, “Do you have a boyfriend?” I said yes. He said, “Do you love him?” I said, “Yes, we’re going to get married?”

He said: “Well, you know, your periods have been a little irregular here. I’m going to give you a prescription of something that’s going to make your periods real regular.”

I was very fortunate, and that is why I feel compelled to stand up for the young women in this country now who are not allowed to control their own fertility, their bodily fertility. People keep wanting to take away from women our right to control our pleasure and our bodies and our reproductive health. And for this, I will always continue to fight wherever it is. “