Oil Spill: Dangers to Human Health

Yesterday I saw an article where they were saying the workers were getting more sick from the heat than from the fumes.
My first thought was how they lied to the 9-11 rescue workers about the air quaility.

Dak at The Confluence has a post about backtrack’s arrival in the gulf today and she has some pictrures of the  beaches where no one is cleaning them up.

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Tragic and the health risks will be around for years…

Anger grows as disaster reaches Panhandle beaches

PENSACOLA BEACH, Fla. – The smell of oil hangs heavy in the sea air. Children with plastic shovels scoop up clumps of goo in the waves. Beachcombers collect tarballs as if they were seashells.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gulf_oil_spill

A lot of the problem is bound to be the diepersant and the proprietary chemicals in them labeled only as “petroleum distilates”. If oil were this toxic by itself all of the oil change technicians would be sick all the time. It’s the dispersant I think which will prove to be worse than the oil spill. It’s being used in such quantity in the attempt to hide the oil.

I’ve seen some of the photos of the beach workers and those on boats skimming and placing booms. The overwhelming majority have little or no sefety gear. Theey should be covered head to toe with skin, eye and breathing apperatus.

I would not go near any affected area for any lenght of time without a VOC Respirator. They are inexpensive and are the same ones used for painting. That is the absolute minimum protection these people should be given.

The health affects will be devastating.

It is difficult to work with Hazmat suits in hot humid conditions, so the workers will need many frequent breaks to rest and get hydrated

Just one more corner being cut by BP.

The Incident Commander should know better and should have his head handed to him if it can be pulled out of his ass.

BP says that they will pay for the cleanup.  Will they also pay for the health problems?  (If your answer is “yes” then I want to talk to you about some oceanfront property in Kansas.)

This is the best report and most useful report I have ever seen from Maddow and I hope she does more like it.

There needs to be teams of Industrial Hygenists at every site that trains and sends out workers, and they need to give the workers and trian them with safety gear.

The workers need to be fit tested and trained for respirator use. But at the minimum it will help if they use the respirators even if it takes time to fit test them all.

If you know any workers tell them to go to Lowes, home depot or a paint supply store and order and use a VOC respirator. Make sure they are getting a good seal and not letting air slip through the face seal.

It will be easy to tell because the difference will be night and day with clean air filtered through the respirator.

The results of chronic exposure can be a lifetime of devestation and hortened life from a number of reasons. It is not worth it. Every major organ wll be crying. The brain makes you naseated to tell you to get the hell out of there and get fresh air.

The liver cannot process and filter out the chemicals fast enough to prevent harm to other organs, the CNS and the brain.

It is not even a roll of the dice. It is Russian Roulette with bullets in every chamber. It is only a matter of how good a shot you are with the gun to the head.

The Incident Commander needs to make sure all crews are properly equiped.

We’ve already submitted one bill and they haven’t said that they’re not paying it, so I don’t want to anticipate problems. But we are already starting to see at the local level folks experiencing problems.  And we don’t want those problems to build up — we want to nip that at the bud right now.

Obama remarks  6-4-10

…and there it is in bold print. The very definition of clueless. Submit a bill? Hello? And in the same breath he says …”we are already starting to see at the local level folks experiencing problems.

God Bless John Wooden.

I have such lothing for MSNBC with a good portion of it going to Rachel Maddow (not too far down the list from Oldbermann) that it is hard for me to give credibility to anything coming from there.   Even if her report was dead on, she took every opportunity to slam all that she mentioned except for Barack 0bama.    Until she can sobber up from her 2-year drunk on the kool-aid, I just as soon not hear anything from her or any of the others at that hell-hole.   

HelenK,
I have also been reading Dak’s posts on a daily basis.  She lives there and is able to tell us what’s really going on:  Nothing much.  No coordinated clean up.  Only more garbage as the people left after oilsoc’s visit.

This horrific situation in the Gulf dramatically underlines how little oilsoc cares about us – our country and her people.

As for Maddow and her cronies, without her that blithering idiot would not be occupying the WH right now.

Anything from Maddow is as toxic as anything from the oil spill IMO. The woman may be able to still do something “right” but whatever she does or says is tianted by her bias and her b.s. At least to me. I personally don’t give a rat’s whatever about anything Rachel Maddow has to say. She killed any chance of redemption with me over the way she tittered and titilated her way through the Tea Party protests. The days that I found her worth listening to are very far in my rear-view mirror!

As for Dakinicat over at TC, I quit paying any attention to anything she had to say a long time ago. Her bias also shines through anything she does or says. Everything in the world that goes wrong is caused by either Oblahblah or Republicans. And Democrats acting badly aren’t real Democrats, they are Republicans in disguise. Nice “cop-out” as we used to say.

Without unbiased, facts we cannot “fix” anything, we cannot “understand” anything and we cannot “know” anything. Once someone has shown me their “bias” I tend not to take what they say seriously. Or I tend to ignore what they say comletely.

When I saw the line “her terrific report tonight”, I thought “Whaaat?”

Terrific or not, I will never again listen to a thing madcow has to say about anything.  As is said a broken watch is right at least twice a day and she hasn’t been right on even that regular a basis.  Besides, whenever she wants to be taken seriously she trots out her education like a shingle at every opportunity; believing that’s all it takes for us to be impressed.  She’s really one of those cocker spaniel, useful idiot people–a trained seal barking for the far left.  And she’s a bully. 

Tend to agree.

Quite frankly, I can’t stand to see her blather any more. After what she did to Hillary.

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MUST READ:

http://syd4.blogspot.com/2010/06/give-em-hell-hillary-thats-right-but.html

I agree. I read and posted articles yesterday That One knew within 24 hrs this was a BAD one. The Coast Guard is complicit in keeping reporters/photographers at arm-length.

Yesterday, That One had the nerve to continue to bash/blame BP (like we, the public don’t know), saying he didn’t think the company should be spending money on advertising  while the victims were being short changed. He has no business making this statement, imho, since his adminstration was signing waivers for BP up to this kill occurrence. 

BTW, that $900 mil in campaign donations from BP could go a long way to helping the victims. >:o

This society has become so legitigious that the culprits including the Fed Govt think only about the law suits and saving their behind and doing the right thing never enters their minds. Case in point, if they set up health centers to aid these people, BP and the feds worry about these same people going off to sue the pants off BP (which would be fine by me). These MFers even balk at giving the right information to the victims of this disaster for the same reason and the Fed govt is an accomplice in all this. This is first world incompetence in all its glory.

From Lucianne:

<img src=”http://www.lucianne.com/images/lucianne/DailyPhoto/2010-06-05.jpg”/>

Exactly. Those respirators are inexpensive and really, it’s criminal negligence to allow those workers to work without them.

Breeze, excellent video, espescially the first 6 minutes, agree with your Palin critique….Barry Soetoro i s flushed with the FAT CATS, he is their “HO!”   He is a puppet, HC was not reform or even helpful to those unensured Americans…Higher rates and mo money for the insurance companies and pharm.  Crappy HC for all American except for those who can afford!  MSNBC enabled this fraud into WH…Hillary Clinton, 2012!  Its time to take back our country for the f@@king assholes who are corrupted, filled with greed and “their life back!”  Those god damn JERKS!

not for…. from!!!!!!

Wait, NQ is touting Rachel Maddow?  Another skunk in the Obama groupie section.

o/t

I believe the underlying point being made is that even the most ardent supporters of That One are starting to see the light. I wouldn’t call it an endorsement of her or her views.

Lighten up on the melodrama, please.

kenoshamarge, way back in the day, I posted comments there, too.  But as soon as I ‘came out’ as a Birther; my comments were no longer posted.  Was I suddenly less intelligent?  No.  Were my narratives less coherent?  Was I no longer the same person whose work on vote binding states they recognized could have pulled off the nomination for HRC?  No.  Had I switched my political registration from “Unenrolled” and become a Republican, even assuming being an R would be a legitimate basis to bar comments from me, anyway?  No.  I was merely pointing out, instead of continuously complaining about BO’s job performance; a mechanism exists, based on election fraud, to get him out of office.  My bad.

FERD  NEVER EVER tell a woman to “lighten up” 

just a warning

I won’t view any demonization of Sarah.  Nope sorry not even for the good old Hillary.  sorry.  I happen to think we NEED to drill NOW and up close! (not so far out and deep where you can’t clean up your mess!  Anwar is perfect! 

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–>I have never cottoned to cries of the “end is near” or predictions of imminent doom. However after reading a number of articles here on AT including this one, it seems wise to buy seeds and estimate the garden capacity of my backyard. Then, to get one’s bicycle primed for travel, and begin to stock up on commodities. I have no gold nor the money to buy it. Gold or no gold, we will all feel more than just a pinch from the gulf coast and this disaster. No one can predict how bad it will really be, but we can imagine.

obama is spewing his own toxic oil. We are like those pitiful, sick and dying birds sitting in the muck of what used to be clear and life-giving water. obama believes and knows of nothing to do except threats, dispersing his DC lawyers onto every problem as a way of bullying control, and then using photo ops, talking and schmoozing the country to death. Since this is Alinsky on steroids, I must continue to assume he is not intent on solving anything ON PURPOSE. His administration did not approve of the berms for Jindal ON PURPOSE. He did not read the AZ illegal alien law ON PURPOSE. He did not visit the crisis area in LA for weeks, ON PURPOSE. He feted sports clubs, held a concert for Michele and had vacations during a major crisis ON PURPOSE.

You may think it is incompetence and of course it is, but obama’s clear failure to act fits the Alinsky strategy exceedingly well. He is simply and clearly the worst non-American, anti-American, foreign born fraud of a president in the history of our country. He has surrounded himself with every kind of misfit from Geithner, Brennan, Napolitano, Holder and Emanuel on down to the foulest of his commie czars. Prepare to stay underwhelmed with his competence and make preparations to survive!

Normally I don’t Ladydawnelle but then I didn’t know My other site was a woman. But my comment stands.

just a warning

I can’t stand Madcow and have thus far managed to avoid watching her!  Even for the BELOVED Hillary I still won’t watch the video. Especially since half of it disses Sarah.

I understand. To take back this country, though, Dawnelle, we may have to do it one slack-jawed Obamabot at a time. If Maddow is potentially coming around, that is not bad news. Quite the contrary, it is good news. But don’t construe that to mean I would ever watch her because I won’t.

oh I understand they are All coming around now – or be thought insane!  Absolutely!

but I used to really value watching her back in the day and when she turned ostrich sanctimonious traitor in donkeyland (along with some others) my stomach turned inside out (forever more it seems) and there’s NO going BACK!  as Hawking says “we can only go forward (in time)”
good to see ya FERD (waving to Kat)

soon to be 3rd world (if bambi and his single feathered friends have their way)

this is NOT someone to be trashing right about now!  jmo 
(I just pulled this from C4P)

“This Eugene Register-Guard story is absolutely incredible. In Eugene, Oregon, one of the most liberal areas of the country, Governor Palin helped the county Republican Party raise 62 times the amount that the county Democrat Party has raised this year.”

DONKEYS are done

The oil spill may be toxic….But MSNBC is MORE toxic!

Sorry, but I’m very narrowminded on that subject.

It’s amazing how many places say they don’t want a yes and amen chorus when that’s exactly what they want. Pretending it ain’t so doesn’t make it not so.

I’ve wandered from so many sites, Buzzflash, TC, and others that now I accept and am content as a vagabond.

Even here if the discussion wanders into name-calling and nastiness I just move along for a time. (Not counting attacks on trolls. That is justified IMHO, I just don’t find it worth the effort. I simply flag and move on.)

Oh and about the “birther” thing. I don’t know and so I haven’t made up my mind one way or another. It just seems funny, as in “odd” that something that could be put to rest so easily with some of that “vaunted” Oblahblah transperancy, isn’t. Odd.

Sing it sister! An education doesn’t make an asshat any less of an asshat. Just an educated asshat. And I’m not interested in the spewings of asshats!

I’m no fan of Maddow either but to disqualify good information because you don’t like the messenger is silly and pointless. Maddow also did a segment on the 1979 oil spill in the Gulf.  Every single thing BP has attempted in the last 7 weeks is exactly what was done in the earlier spill 31 years ago.  We may have developed the technology to drill in deep waters but nothing has been developed in case of disasters. And the 1979 well?  It was at 200 ft.  This is a deja vu disaster of mega proportions.  And we obviously haven’t learned much in 3 decades. But the oil companies have gotten real good at making us forget.

I dig the anger at Maddow et al. I’m with you.  But, that’s an hour when I like to watch the news, and the cable alternatives are the shallow Sean Hannity or the brain-dead Larry King. So, last night — and since I knew that Maddow was reporting from the Gulf — I tuned in, and was glad I did.

The democrats in charge from the President down to Congress don’t get it, they are fixated on winning. Congress should have the BP platform drillers and their families in for congressional hearings to get the truth before it’s lost forever. Instead, they are wearing friendship bracelets for illegal immigrants. To the comment, I am planning a backyard hydroponic setup made from pvc pipe. I wanted my family out of the ‘burbs by now but this is Florida and houses aren’t worth right now what it would cost to rebuild them. Thanks Barack. But yes, we all need to be thinking of just surviving this Barackalypse and not doing it with any particular kind of style.

“Tar balls” has become the new “hanging chads”.

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Obama: Government  
fully mobilized on oil spill  
 
Reuters, by Staff     
 
Original Article  
 
6/5/2010  
 
U.S. President Barack Obama on Saturday vigorously defended his administration against criticism it has been too slow to act on the Gulf of Mexico oil spill, insisting it had “mobilized on every front.” In his weekly radio and Internet address to Americans, Obama said his administration had set in motion the largest response to an environmental disaster in U.S. history. (Snip) But opinion polls have consistently shown that a majority of Americans are unhappy with Obama’s handling of the 47-day crisis, which has caused environmental devastation and threatens a multi-billion fishing industry and tourism.

Bronwyn—I understand what you’re saying. But, the same information will be available elsewhere……like here on No Q. thanks to you.
My hypertension precludes me from exposing myself to “news anchors” , especially female ones, who did NOT want a qualified woman to be President. That issue has gone to my very core, being a woman, and has scraped it raw. 

That One’s flimsy house of cards is a-comin’ down and I’m quite pleased at the prospect. That Maddow may be waking up from her Kool-Aide-induced coma is good news. I don’t like her and don’t watch her but it is thrills me to know that she is going to be dining on some nasty-ass crow and hoof for quite a while.

kenoshamarge, when I say, I am a Birther, I mean, I have seen no documentary evidence in the public record that establishes where BO was born.  And, based on the oral and written representations by BO’s lawyer, WH Counsel Bob Bauer; and WH Press Secretary Robert Gibbs, neither have they.  (RB says BO is for real because he publicly released a document APFC said is real (in Hollister); and RG said he is for real because he posted that document on FTS, on his (RG’s) recommendation!)  http://jbjd.wordpress.com/2010/05/10/all-the-presidents-henchmen/

Many of the Obamacrats will be feasting on that same meal, Ferd.  I could not believe the arrogance of Joan Walsh over at Salon, still defending Obama and going after the public’s disapproval as an infantile desire to have a “Daddy.” 

No, Joan.  What we want is a competent leader.  Big difference.

No, Joan.  What we want is a competent leader.  Big difference.
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Joan is a smug, sanctimonius sycophant and an insufferable gasbag.

And making record breaking profits every quarter…

They actually tried and got straight armed by the oil execs’s. Two refused to testify (see bottom of the excerpts blow)

Of particular interest was their knowldge of a compromised BOP, and use of a light-weight concrete, and the use seawater rather then the heavy drlling mud durning during the cementing process. The entire article is worth the read.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon_oil_spill

On April 22, 2010, the United States Coast Guard and the Minerals Management Service launched an investigation of the possible causes of the explosion.[28] On May 11, 2010, the Obama administration requested the National Academy of Engineering conduct an independent technical investigation to determine the root causes of the disaster so that corrective steps could be taken to address the mechanical failures underlying the accident.[255] The United States House Committee on Energy and Commerce asked Halliburton to brief it as well as provide any documents it might have related to its work on the Macondo well.[43]
Attention has focused on the cementing procedure and the blowout preventer, which failed to fully engage.[44]

Just hours before the explosion, a BP representative overruled Transocean employees and insisted on displacing protective drilling mud with seawater.[257] One of the BP representatives on the board responsible for making the final decision, Robert Kaluza, refused to testify on the Fifth Amendment grounds that he might incriminate himself; Donald Vidrine, another BP representative, cited medical reasons for his inability to testify, as did James Mansfield, Transocean’s assistant marine engineer on board.[258][259][260]

Meanwhile they talk about a “leak”. When I look at the live stream, I don’t see a “leak”; it’s a torrent.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Media/bp-stopped-oil-gulf-mexico/story?id=10827645

I watched the tape:  ‘…workers “may have to be mindful” of the hazards to which they are being exposed…’  BO is an accessory to disease and death.  Why hasn’t he instructed his Cabinet to set up and staff a CDC (DoHHS) hotline for affected civilians and a similar reporting point for workers at OSHA (DoL)?  Why didn’t he pointedly warn BP, sending workers in without appropriate training and protection will result in the highest penalties allowed by law?  No; instead, he tells workers to be mindful of hazards; get training, and wear the right clothes. 

You want to read something to make your blood boil, the Daily Beast has an article here by Richard Wolffe, indicating that Obama and his crew knew from the start that this was a mega disaster, was thoroughly briefed and decided they would concentrate on managing the message and public opinion.  How perfect. 

These people are beyond belief!

http://petroleumtruthreport.blogspot.com/2010/05/guest-blog-by-perry-fischer-are.html  
 
A Guest Post by Perry A. Fischer: Are incentives to blame in the Macondo blowout?  
 
 
A Bonus is routinely paid for faster and cheaper across many industries. Could it have played a role in the case of the Macondo well disaster?  
 
The revelation that the company used only 50 barrels of foamed cement (TudorPickeringHolt webcast) on the most critical part of the well is mind-boggling. Also, why they chose to use N2 foamed cement across a formation (that was known to contain a supercritical slush of mixed fluids whose behavior is difficult to predict) is a bit perplexing too. Perhaps it was to prevent the gas-cut cement that has been a problem on deep, high-pressure wells, but how would light, foamy cement do that?  
 
But the 50 barrels number seems to be missing a zero, almost like it’s a typo, reminiscent of NASA’s infamous “Was that in meters or feet?” mistake that caused more than $200 million to crash into Mars. BP took foolish risks in the interest of time-saving that I cannot explain. You don’t even need your red Halliburton book to know that with 50 barrels, BP was planning to cement, at best, a short amount over the shoe of the previous casing string, just above the producing zone. This is even more perplexing given that the zone was known to have washouts. What was the thinking here?  
 
As perplexing as the above decision-making was, BP decided not to run a Cement Bond Log (TudorPickeringHolt webcast). This might not be so bad on a straightforward infill well at modest depth and pressure, but this reservoir had already “eaten” one drill string on the first well, which had to be abandoned. There was a Schlumberger Unit and personnel on the rig. They were not utilized. I’ve run CBLs. Even a crummy, short CBL would probably have at shown bond quality and channeling (if present) and would certainly have shown the Top of Cement; in this case, with minimal cement, it would have been extremely important to know the location of the TOC. 

continued at ..http://petroleumtruthreport.blogspot.com/2010/05/guest-blog-by-perry-fischer-are.html 

if these were blue states he’d be busting his balz – trust me!

Odd, is putting it mildly kenoshamarge

Help! sowsear jinxed me–I’m seeing misspelling everywhere.

Help! sowsear jinxed me–I’m seeing misspelling everywhere.  Please sowsear, I apologize if I offended you, send me some good karma.

CM, this comment points to one of the reasons I am so livid at this situation (besides have a B.A. in Worker Advocacy and Labor Law!).  I resent having to devote so much of my life to becoming an expert in all things just so that I can suggest to my government optimum responses to the emergencies that occur on BO’s watch.  I trust, if HRC had been in charge, paying the experts to do their jobs would have been a sufficient personal contribution.

Harp that reminds me of the name Chad–Immediately after that Florida ripoff I began meeting people named Chad  everywhere–If I now start meeting people named “Tar Ball” I’m moving.

Agree with you, Docelder.  The dispersant is being used to hide the massive amount of oil.  So many other solutions were available immediately to get the (tar) ball(s) rolling, pardon my pun.  Tankers immediately sent to suck up the oil, sand barrier islands around LA with or without fed approval and funding, Keven Costner’s machine, common folk with natural remedies like hay tossed in to soak up the oil and then scooped out, sending Sarah Palin down to lead the effort, dispatching the DOD to contain the spill before it reached land, etc., etc., etc.  All of these solutions, begun day one, would have had some effect, minor to major, and would have shown We the People that the crooks in D.C., BP and the world oligarchies give a damn about our beloved nation. 

This is fascism–hiding the truth, denying free press reporting, including flyovers by experts and anyone else, etc. 

Well hell, there goes the theory of relativity and “Back to the Future”

If the mess is so toxic, why does Chris Matthews promote that the unemployed flock to the coast to clean up BP’s mess–whose side is he on?  In his Let Me Finish monolog calling for a new CCC– ”I know there will be people to warn you of the hazards…the possibility of someone getting hurt or drowning or whatever.  Let people sign releases, if necessary,” Matthews spouts (Come to think, Matthews is kind of like an oil spill himself, gushing and leaking and spouting toxic material). If anything, we should make sure that first line defenders of our shores and wildlife ALREADY SERVING AT THE U.S. GULF are given the respirators and protective gear they need–that should be our #1 priority. 
Though Obama did not create this mess directly, he fought dirty in the election to seize the honor of governing and guiding us through it.  Instead of leading, however, he is politicizing the disaster–he has become a very small, petty and ordinary man in my eyes.  And the MSM prop him up–why?  I wonder often, what would Hillary do?
Here’s the Matthews piece, if you’re interested:  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/vp/37498539#37498539

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Folks, it pretty clear what is going on here.  The government, media, and BP are working in coordination to allow this disaster to happen.  They want it to be SO BIG, that almost every american will WANT to rid ourselves of oil.  They needed to do something to ween the baby from its bottle and this is it.

Well bullshit is also available.

Pink elephants stampeding!

I just live up the road a piece from Eugene.  I hope to gawd that there is a chance to replace the D congress critters and replace them with Rs.  Not that Rs have done such a good job but maybe we can impeach oilsoc with the Rs in control.  I have never been this disgusted with the political process, the bait and switch-kabuki theater strategy, the threats, the intimidation, the Chicago style politics. 

I personally am waiting for the plagues of locust as I prepare and stock up on food and commodities.  And to think we could have had Hillary…

So, like what has That One done?  Photo ops? Check.  Golf? Check.  Concerts with big-name singers?  Check.  Meeting with sports teams?  Check.  Going on vacation?  Check.  Railing at BP while accepting their donations?  Check.  Monotone assurances that “here he comes to save the day?” Check.  Hiring people to clean the beach before he and his crew descend on LA? Check.  Leaving more garbage when he and his groupies leave?  Check.

Yeah, real efficiency in action – NOT!

I wonder if this will make this beaches toxic for years.

And because it was me and he lit into my comment even though he said nothing to the several other similar comments upthread that I had not seen.

They do shoot themselves in the foot there.  I know I got into an argument about tea parties and vowed never to go back but the Gulf Coast gusher has made me recant about visiting there and Dak does live in LA and has pretty good reporting about what’s happening.  But I do remember your telling us about your “birther” experience there as well jbjd.

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Obama 2008: I ran a big campaign,
so I can handle a Gulf emergency

Washington Examiner,
by Bryon York   

Original Article

6/6/2010

Few remember it now, but in the late summer of 2008, a major hurricane, Gustav, was in the Gulf of Mexico and headed toward New Orleans, threatening a replay of the disastrous Katrina experience. On September 1, 2008, Barack Obama, fresh from his Roman-colonnade speech on the final night of the Democratic convention in Denver, talked to CNN’s Anderson Cooper about Gustav and the Gulf. The question: As president, could he handle an emergency like that? Obama pointed to the size of his campaign and its multi-million dollar budget as evidence of his executive abilities.

And because it was me and he lit into my comment even though he said nothing to the several other similar comments upthread that I had not seen.
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I did not “light” into you. You will notice that I did say please. If there were other comments above that said the same thing, they were posted after yours and after mine. Those pesky time stamps. Further, if I had “lit” into you, you would know it. My comment stands, my other site.

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