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		<title>By: richasis</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/4680/the-numbers-are-devastating-to-obama/#comment-709825</link>
		<dc:creator>richasis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you do here! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you do here! <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: richasis</title>
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		<dc:creator>richasis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>james: I’m a democrat and I &lt;em&gt;approve&lt;/em&gt; of my party.

biden: I’m a democrat and I approve of my &lt;em&gt;party&lt;/em&gt;.

obama: &lt;em&gt;I’m&lt;/em&gt; a democrat and I approve of my party.

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>james: I’m a democrat and I <em>approve</em> of my party.</p>
<p>biden: I’m a democrat and I approve of my <em>party</em>.</p>
<p>obama: <em>I’m</em> a democrat and I approve of my party.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: richasis</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/4680/the-numbers-are-devastating-to-obama/#comment-709813</link>
		<dc:creator>richasis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dawnelle;

it seems like i keep responding to your posts :)

look at this way: obama wins, he may be in for eight years; he loses, hillary has a shot in 2012.

see the silver lining? good! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dawnelle;</p>
<p>it seems like i keep responding to your posts <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>look at this way: obama wins, he may be in for eight years; he loses, hillary has a shot in 2012.</p>
<p>see the silver lining? good! <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: richasis</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/4680/the-numbers-are-devastating-to-obama/#comment-709786</link>
		<dc:creator>richasis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the &#039;conservative&#039; rush was so disappointed in the &#039;moderate&#039; mccain nomination that he wanted hillary to win her nomination and beat mccain in the general election.

he correctly assumed that obama could not win against mccain but that hillary would. it&#039;s good for ratings to have opposition to bash! :)

this dislike for mccain amongst hardcore conservatives was evidenced in the 2000 election, where mccain got &#039;smoked alive&#039;...

what&#039;s this shows is that mccain is NOT the &#039;conservative republican&#039; that some are so afraid of! 

and matt is right, few voters actually went along with this...

so, let&#039;s all vote with confidence!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the &#8216;conservative&#8217; rush was so disappointed in the &#8216;moderate&#8217; mccain nomination that he wanted hillary to win her nomination and beat mccain in the general election.</p>
<p>he correctly assumed that obama could not win against mccain but that hillary would. it&#8217;s good for ratings to have opposition to bash! <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>this dislike for mccain amongst hardcore conservatives was evidenced in the 2000 election, where mccain got &#8216;smoked alive&#8217;&#8230;</p>
<p>what&#8217;s this shows is that mccain is NOT the &#8216;conservative republican&#8217; that some are so afraid of! </p>
<p>and matt is right, few voters actually went along with this&#8230;</p>
<p>so, let&#8217;s all vote with confidence!</p>
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		<title>By: richasis</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/4680/the-numbers-are-devastating-to-obama/#comment-709710</link>
		<dc:creator>richasis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dawnelle;

I appreciate your concern; however, as Joe has so eloquently stated herein, the issues are not as &#039;cut-and-dried&#039; as the &#039;two sides&#039; might have us believe. I too am a Hillary supporter and am voting for McCain well in the knowledge that what Joe says is so true. Don&#039;t let this worry you.

Consider this:

first, during six years of Bush and a Republican Congress there was not even one attempt to &#039;adversely&#039; address these issues;

second, this Congress will undoubtedly be a Democratic one - McCain and Palin would *never* get this legislated;

third, Barky with a Pelosi House and Reid Senate could be VERY scary, indeed.

Just sayin&#039;... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dawnelle;</p>
<p>I appreciate your concern; however, as Joe has so eloquently stated herein, the issues are not as &#8216;cut-and-dried&#8217; as the &#8216;two sides&#8217; might have us believe. I too am a Hillary supporter and am voting for McCain well in the knowledge that what Joe says is so true. Don&#8217;t let this worry you.</p>
<p>Consider this:</p>
<p>first, during six years of Bush and a Republican Congress there was not even one attempt to &#8216;adversely&#8217; address these issues;</p>
<p>second, this Congress will undoubtedly be a Democratic one &#8211; McCain and Palin would *never* get this legislated;</p>
<p>third, Barky with a Pelosi House and Reid Senate could be VERY scary, indeed.</p>
<p>Just sayin&#8217;&#8230; <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: karen for Clinton (sigh, McPalin now)</title>
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		<dc:creator>karen for Clinton (sigh, McPalin now)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 23:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She did not say it the way you wrote it.  She said she would side with the choice of life.  People come to different opinions and convictions in their life, there is absolutely nothing infantile about it.

Do you say the same of everyone who is pro-life?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She did not say it the way you wrote it.  She said she would side with the choice of life.  People come to different opinions and convictions in their life, there is absolutely nothing infantile about it.</p>
<p>Do you say the same of everyone who is pro-life?</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gerard

Let&#039;s face it. This Baraccuda is not in favor of abortions even in incest and rape cases. Her economic ideas are as prolific as McCain&#039;s (zilch) and her feminism is based on good looks and, to her credit, hard work and spunk. But...where&#039;s the beef with this baraccuda when it comes to real issues that women care about? Children&#039;s education, programs for the disadvantaged, freedom to choose to carry a child if the father or grandfather raped the child carrying the child? Universal Health Care? More wars to make profit for the armaments and military industry. Eisenhower warned us to be careful about the military-industrial empire starting wars the Republican way!

And, above, all, baraccudas just ain&#039;t pumas! With Hillary out of the picture, the phony non-existent &quot;choice&quot; between a warmonger and a corrupt empty suit are NO REAL CHOICE for the thinking women voters of HIllary&#039;s true base!...Too bad the exDemocrats really blew it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gerard</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it. This Baraccuda is not in favor of abortions even in incest and rape cases. Her economic ideas are as prolific as McCain&#8217;s (zilch) and her feminism is based on good looks and, to her credit, hard work and spunk. But&#8230;where&#8217;s the beef with this baraccuda when it comes to real issues that women care about? Children&#8217;s education, programs for the disadvantaged, freedom to choose to carry a child if the father or grandfather raped the child carrying the child? Universal Health Care? More wars to make profit for the armaments and military industry. Eisenhower warned us to be careful about the military-industrial empire starting wars the Republican way!</p>
<p>And, above, all, baraccudas just ain&#8217;t pumas! With Hillary out of the picture, the phony non-existent &#8220;choice&#8221; between a warmonger and a corrupt empty suit are NO REAL CHOICE for the thinking women voters of HIllary&#8217;s true base!&#8230;Too bad the exDemocrats really blew it!</p>
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		<title>By: memi</title>
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		<dc:creator>memi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matthew Weavers

Excellent pics. Agreed. And thank you ever so much for abandoning (for today) your 3:00 AM Call to Arms sermons advocating for Hillary&#039;s exposure to the cruel McCain-Obama politically catastrophic hurricanes and her consequent hara-kiri!  Statistics here are so much more palatable....keep it up! You sound great!....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthew Weavers</p>
<p>Excellent pics. Agreed. And thank you ever so much for abandoning (for today) your 3:00 AM Call to Arms sermons advocating for Hillary&#8217;s exposure to the cruel McCain-Obama politically catastrophic hurricanes and her consequent hara-kiri!  Statistics here are so much more palatable&#8230;.keep it up! You sound great!&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just watched C-SPAN Anchorage Debates for Governor and Sarah was not a bad debater. But the Independent guy was more progressive.

I couldn&#039;t believe when the moderator asked Sarah whether if her daughter were pregnant due to rape, what would she do and would she want this for everyone.  Palin unflinchingly said &quot;No&quot; I would make her go through with the pregancy. Even with RAPE and INCEST! This is a hell of a tough lady here!  

If she only had HIllary&#039;s wisdom and compassion....But, hey, Sarah is a true red Republican chick! Too bad, as it makes me want to vote Independent more than ever.

Lou Dobbs has it right! Independents is the lost soul of America.  Hillary&#039;s moderate, commonsense, WOMAN-FRIENDLY policies were the Best.
Sarah Palin&#039;s just another xeroxed candidate, spunky but with her ideology and understanding of women&#039;s issues at an infantile level.
God help women this election. The Democratic Party should be demolished and rebuilt. Obama&#039;s Hillary-bashing and the media misogyny brought us yet another antediluvian candidate.  Both Obama and the Repubs are regressive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just watched C-SPAN Anchorage Debates for Governor and Sarah was not a bad debater. But the Independent guy was more progressive.</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t believe when the moderator asked Sarah whether if her daughter were pregnant due to rape, what would she do and would she want this for everyone.  Palin unflinchingly said &#8220;No&#8221; I would make her go through with the pregancy. Even with RAPE and INCEST! This is a hell of a tough lady here!  </p>
<p>If she only had HIllary&#8217;s wisdom and compassion&#8230;.But, hey, Sarah is a true red Republican chick! Too bad, as it makes me want to vote Independent more than ever.</p>
<p>Lou Dobbs has it right! Independents is the lost soul of America.  Hillary&#8217;s moderate, commonsense, WOMAN-FRIENDLY policies were the Best.<br />
Sarah Palin&#8217;s just another xeroxed candidate, spunky but with her ideology and understanding of women&#8217;s issues at an infantile level.<br />
God help women this election. The Democratic Party should be demolished and rebuilt. Obama&#8217;s Hillary-bashing and the media misogyny brought us yet another antediluvian candidate.  Both Obama and the Repubs are regressive.</p>
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		<title>By: eurogirl70</title>
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		<dc:creator>eurogirl70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if Rev. Wright was &quot;riding dirty&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if Rev. Wright was &#8220;riding dirty&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Dora Ratquila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dora Ratquila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m an optimist so I&#039;m not that worried. After 12 years of Bush/McCain, the Democrats will win AGAIN in 2012 with Hillary/Kennedy. In the meantime, let&#039;s do what Donna Brazile want us to do: Destroy and rebuild the far-too-leftist Democratic Party of thugs, elitists and misogynists. 

In the meantime, let&#039;s watch the Axelrod Frankenstein creation self-destruct from his hubris and narcissism. 
&lt;strong&gt;
B.O.W.L.* Big Time in November
*Barack Obama Will Lose&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;HRC - 45th POTUS&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an optimist so I&#8217;m not that worried. After 12 years of Bush/McCain, the Democrats will win AGAIN in 2012 with Hillary/Kennedy. In the meantime, let&#8217;s do what Donna Brazile want us to do: Destroy and rebuild the far-too-leftist Democratic Party of thugs, elitists and misogynists. </p>
<p>In the meantime, let&#8217;s watch the Axelrod Frankenstein creation self-destruct from his hubris and narcissism.<br />
<strong><br />
B.O.W.L.* Big Time in November<br />
*Barack Obama Will Lose</strong><br />
<strong>HRC &#8211; 45th POTUS</strong></p>
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		<title>By: andySF</title>
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		<dc:creator>andySF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ops, I accidentaly paste my previous post in the middle. Disregard from
Here is what I want to say.

Obama have no workable plan for energy independent in 10 years.

Plan of putting 1 million 150 mpg hybrid on the road in 4 years is a lie. There is not workable model that could do that. The best design could only do about 70mpg(that&#039;s plug-in, and required electric energy that we currently can&#039;t keep up). 

Wind energy can only provide about 25% of the need if fully implemented. And solar is a good start but it takes time. The cost of the two is unrealistic(in 10 years) in current economic situation.

Corn ethanol is a joke because it&#039;s not that much better for carbon emission, and costly. It also take away food supply for the world population(who can&#039;t afford).

McCain is for Nuclear energy, which is cheap and could provide for electric cars and fuel cell cars(which took huge amount of energy to make). Both are great for the environment. Further more, fusion tech will be ready in another 30 years(safe).

Give me some solid proof that his plan will work in 10 years. I want numbers. How much the cost and the number of each tech will will be in use, then I&#039;ll vote for him(if it&#039;s workable). Otherwise, stop BS us, the free thinkers.

As to reality, are you actually think that people will rush out to get a new Hybrid car(even if they can be 150mpg) when they are worrying about their home, health and dinner? You are so out of touch. Can we say &quot;elitist&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ops, I accidentaly paste my previous post in the middle. Disregard from<br />
Here is what I want to say.</p>
<p>Obama have no workable plan for energy independent in 10 years.</p>
<p>Plan of putting 1 million 150 mpg hybrid on the road in 4 years is a lie. There is not workable model that could do that. The best design could only do about 70mpg(that&#8217;s plug-in, and required electric energy that we currently can&#8217;t keep up). </p>
<p>Wind energy can only provide about 25% of the need if fully implemented. And solar is a good start but it takes time. The cost of the two is unrealistic(in 10 years) in current economic situation.</p>
<p>Corn ethanol is a joke because it&#8217;s not that much better for carbon emission, and costly. It also take away food supply for the world population(who can&#8217;t afford).</p>
<p>McCain is for Nuclear energy, which is cheap and could provide for electric cars and fuel cell cars(which took huge amount of energy to make). Both are great for the environment. Further more, fusion tech will be ready in another 30 years(safe).</p>
<p>Give me some solid proof that his plan will work in 10 years. I want numbers. How much the cost and the number of each tech will will be in use, then I&#8217;ll vote for him(if it&#8217;s workable). Otherwise, stop BS us, the free thinkers.</p>
<p>As to reality, are you actually think that people will rush out to get a new Hybrid car(even if they can be 150mpg) when they are worrying about their home, health and dinner? You are so out of touch. Can we say &#8220;elitist&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: andySF</title>
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		<dc:creator>andySF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 21:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama have no workable plan for energy independent in 10 years.

Plan of putting 1 million 150 mpg hybrid on the road iHow did you come to that conclusion? Why do you think that average American can&#039;t work their way up? Just because the deck was stacked against them, doesn&#039;t mean that they can&#039;t live their dream. 

Take me for example,. I was 14 when I first pick-up English. Working full time for half of the minimum wage and go to school full time. Neither of my parents are educated. In fact, neither of them speak English till this very day(they did save enough to have their home paid off by retirement on low income). Went into the military after high school, and took a average paying job after that and worked 6 days a week for a few years.

I save most of my pay(about 50% after taxes) and invest(in real estate and stock+options) during the Clinton years. Took me about 10 years to gain my financial independent. I am still not college educated(without a actual degree, what you bot call uneducated).

Would you call me more disadvantaged or advantaged? Would you like for me to remain mediocre? Is it a crime for me to live the American dream? Should I be lazy and sit on my brain so that I can be like everyone else?

Your wealth redistribution view is totally communist. It didn&#039;t work so well for China pre-1980(I knew, since I lived part of it).

You fail to put up the % of total US tax paid by those top 5%, which make your argument flaw. 
There is a progressive tax system in place that already is reasonable. The first 5000 net income after deduction tax at 10%, the nest 20k or so tax at 15%, about that pay 28%. Anything over 120k pay 33%. If you add the payroll tax, local and state tax, that number go up to over 50%. What will make you happy on the tax rate? 80%? 90%? Why don&#039;t we make this a communist country while you are at it. That way every American can be mediocre and we can all live live the Cuban(China is more capitalist now than the US by the way).

Also, the AMT already bite most American middle class every year. The estate tax is shameful to tax over 1 million(it may be a lot of money 20 years ago, but it&#039;s nothing since the dollar devalued 41% as you pointed out). What&#039;s so wrong for parent want to pass on their hard earned money to their children? Why should they be tax again on that? What&#039;s wrong with working hard for a better future that they should be punish for it?

Coming from a poor back ground, I am all for social justice. That&#039;s why there are medicaid for the poor, and hopefully UHC(which neither Obama or McCain really support). Education system that work(I like McCain&#039;s proposed education program for people who lost their jobs). Having been in the public school system, liberal policy is what&#039;s wrong with the school. Babying of disadvantaged kids and parents who don&#039;t care enough it&#039;s the main problem. I spend more than 4 hours a day with my daughter on her studying at home on top of her preschool(and she&#039;s only 4). It&#039;s more of the parents responsibility than it&#039;s the school&#039;s. For liberal to make it a problem of school is way off. My uneducated parents use to sit by me to make sure I study and do my homework(too bad, I am not the book worm they like me to be, unlike my sister and my wife).

So until people actually take responsibilities, and stop blaming everyone but themselves, they and their children will not see to live the American dream. Before you bash me, just look at the credit card debt on average American, and the kind of car they drive on payment just prove my point.

BTW, do you even know how wasteful the Govt is?  I seen $150 per screw that only cost $2 in a hardware store in my military days, and throwing away hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of equipment annually just in my department. That&#039;s where you  find the money for programs, just as McCain said.n 4 years is a lie. There is not workable model that could do that. The best design could only do about 70mpg(that&#039;s plug-in, and required electric energy that we currently can&#039;t keep up). 

Wind energy can only provide about 25% of the need if fully implemented. And solar is a good start but it takes time. The cost of the two is unrealistic(in 10 years) in current economic situation.

Corn ethanol is a joke because it&#039;s not that much better for carbon emission, and costly. It also take away food supply for the world population(who can&#039;t afford).

McCain is for Nuclear energy, which is cheap and could provide for electric cars and fuel cell cars(which took huge amount of energy to make). Both are great for the environment. Further more, fusion tech will be ready in another 30 years(safe).

Give me some solid proof that his plan will work in 10 years. I want numbers. How much the cost and the number of each tech will will be in use, then I&#039;ll vote for him(if it&#039;s workable). Otherwise, stop BS us, the free thinkers.

As to reality, are you actually think that people will rush out to get a new Hybrid car(even if they can be 150mpg) when they are worrying about their home, health and dinner? You are so out of touch. Can we say &quot;elitist&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama have no workable plan for energy independent in 10 years.</p>
<p>Plan of putting 1 million 150 mpg hybrid on the road iHow did you come to that conclusion? Why do you think that average American can&#8217;t work their way up? Just because the deck was stacked against them, doesn&#8217;t mean that they can&#8217;t live their dream. </p>
<p>Take me for example,. I was 14 when I first pick-up English. Working full time for half of the minimum wage and go to school full time. Neither of my parents are educated. In fact, neither of them speak English till this very day(they did save enough to have their home paid off by retirement on low income). Went into the military after high school, and took a average paying job after that and worked 6 days a week for a few years.</p>
<p>I save most of my pay(about 50% after taxes) and invest(in real estate and stock+options) during the Clinton years. Took me about 10 years to gain my financial independent. I am still not college educated(without a actual degree, what you bot call uneducated).</p>
<p>Would you call me more disadvantaged or advantaged? Would you like for me to remain mediocre? Is it a crime for me to live the American dream? Should I be lazy and sit on my brain so that I can be like everyone else?</p>
<p>Your wealth redistribution view is totally communist. It didn&#8217;t work so well for China pre-1980(I knew, since I lived part of it).</p>
<p>You fail to put up the % of total US tax paid by those top 5%, which make your argument flaw.<br />
There is a progressive tax system in place that already is reasonable. The first 5000 net income after deduction tax at 10%, the nest 20k or so tax at 15%, about that pay 28%. Anything over 120k pay 33%. If you add the payroll tax, local and state tax, that number go up to over 50%. What will make you happy on the tax rate? 80%? 90%? Why don&#8217;t we make this a communist country while you are at it. That way every American can be mediocre and we can all live live the Cuban(China is more capitalist now than the US by the way).</p>
<p>Also, the AMT already bite most American middle class every year. The estate tax is shameful to tax over 1 million(it may be a lot of money 20 years ago, but it&#8217;s nothing since the dollar devalued 41% as you pointed out). What&#8217;s so wrong for parent want to pass on their hard earned money to their children? Why should they be tax again on that? What&#8217;s wrong with working hard for a better future that they should be punish for it?</p>
<p>Coming from a poor back ground, I am all for social justice. That&#8217;s why there are medicaid for the poor, and hopefully UHC(which neither Obama or McCain really support). Education system that work(I like McCain&#8217;s proposed education program for people who lost their jobs). Having been in the public school system, liberal policy is what&#8217;s wrong with the school. Babying of disadvantaged kids and parents who don&#8217;t care enough it&#8217;s the main problem. I spend more than 4 hours a day with my daughter on her studying at home on top of her preschool(and she&#8217;s only 4). It&#8217;s more of the parents responsibility than it&#8217;s the school&#8217;s. For liberal to make it a problem of school is way off. My uneducated parents use to sit by me to make sure I study and do my homework(too bad, I am not the book worm they like me to be, unlike my sister and my wife).</p>
<p>So until people actually take responsibilities, and stop blaming everyone but themselves, they and their children will not see to live the American dream. Before you bash me, just look at the credit card debt on average American, and the kind of car they drive on payment just prove my point.</p>
<p>BTW, do you even know how wasteful the Govt is?  I seen $150 per screw that only cost $2 in a hardware store in my military days, and throwing away hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of equipment annually just in my department. That&#8217;s where you  find the money for programs, just as McCain said.n 4 years is a lie. There is not workable model that could do that. The best design could only do about 70mpg(that&#8217;s plug-in, and required electric energy that we currently can&#8217;t keep up). </p>
<p>Wind energy can only provide about 25% of the need if fully implemented. And solar is a good start but it takes time. The cost of the two is unrealistic(in 10 years) in current economic situation.</p>
<p>Corn ethanol is a joke because it&#8217;s not that much better for carbon emission, and costly. It also take away food supply for the world population(who can&#8217;t afford).</p>
<p>McCain is for Nuclear energy, which is cheap and could provide for electric cars and fuel cell cars(which took huge amount of energy to make). Both are great for the environment. Further more, fusion tech will be ready in another 30 years(safe).</p>
<p>Give me some solid proof that his plan will work in 10 years. I want numbers. How much the cost and the number of each tech will will be in use, then I&#8217;ll vote for him(if it&#8217;s workable). Otherwise, stop BS us, the free thinkers.</p>
<p>As to reality, are you actually think that people will rush out to get a new Hybrid car(even if they can be 150mpg) when they are worrying about their home, health and dinner? You are so out of touch. Can we say &#8220;elitist&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 21:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what about the guy on Fox news today who said the results of the troopergate investigation would &quot;destroy&quot; Gov Palin?

That has me worried because even McCain tries to defend her the media will make sure it saturates the 24/7 news programs.

And how can they already know that it will destroy her if the investigation is not completed yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what about the guy on Fox news today who said the results of the troopergate investigation would &#8220;destroy&#8221; Gov Palin?</p>
<p>That has me worried because even McCain tries to defend her the media will make sure it saturates the 24/7 news programs.</p>
<p>And how can they already know that it will destroy her if the investigation is not completed yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Liz B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 21:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>welcome aboard!  I&#039;m an ex Liberal Democrat myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>welcome aboard!  I&#8217;m an ex Liberal Democrat myself.</p>
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