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Wow, Even The Palins?

I stopped reading Leonard Pitts during the 2008 Primary Selection. I couldn’t take his unquestioning support of All Things Obama. Not very appealing from someone whose columns I used to read with regularity for their thoughtfulness and attention to facts. Those qualities disappeared seemingly overnight.

So, imagine my surprise when reading my morning newspaper to see a column by Pitts about Sarah Palin that wasn’t completely negative. I admit, I kept waiting for the other shoe to drop as he discussed her new neighbor. Sure, there were some snide comments, and a few digs at her and those who support her, but overall, for someone who had been such an Obama-phile, it was pretty, well, nice. Don’t take my word for it, though. Here is his recent column on Sarah Palin and ‘Stalker’ Next Door:

There goes the neighborhood.

We do not know if that was Sarah Palin’s initial response to the news that a journalist writing a book about her had rented the house next to hers in Wasilla, Alaska. But who could blame her if it was?

As it is, the response Palin did share on Facebook seems tellingly uneven, as if Joe McGinniss’ decision to move in next door had knocked her off her game. One moment, she’s chirping with trademark insouciance about how she might bake him a blueberry pie to welcome him to the neighborhood. The next, she is talking about raising the fence between her house and his.

In the same Facebook posting, Palin also suggested, with smarmy innuendo, that from his new home, the author could see into her daughter’s bedroom. Palin did not explain why he would wish to do so.

McGinniss’ move has stirred controversy beyond Wasilla. A posting on Slate.com strongly defended his “immersion” journalism. At the other end of the opinion spectrum, the author has received death threats from angry Palin fans. Among McGinniss’ more hinged critics, the word “creepy” gets used a lot. Even in defending him, the piece on Slate.com likened him to a stalker.


Uh, yeah – I think “creepy” applies to this guy, don’t you? Shoot, even he seems to think so:

For his part, McGinniss told NBC’s Today show that “Creepy is as creepy does” — whatever that means — and portrayed his decision to rent the house next door as coincidental. He needed to live in Wasilla for the summer while doing his research, it was a great house at a great price and it just happened to be next door to the woman he is writing about.

If ever there is a Museum of Disingenuous Explanations, that one will deserve its own wing. And here, let us stipulate three things:

One, McGinniss is pulling an obvious stunt that ultimately benefits both parties: it helps him sell books, it helps her sell herself as a victim of the “lamestream” media.

Two, McGinniss is perfectly within his rights to rent this house — or any other he desires.

Three, Palin is, of her own doing, a public figure and as such, must accept intense, even intrusive media scrutiny.

But even stipulating all that, it’s hard to be sanguine about the uncomfortable nearness McGinniss has foisted upon his subject. Not that you can’t understand why he’d want to write about her. Palin is, second only to the president himself, the most compelling figure in American politics — and the most polarizing. For some, she is the folksy, straight-talkin’ avatar of conservative principles, while for others, she is the leader of an intellectually incoherent movement that has no idea where it’s going but seems in a hurry to get there.

Perhaps there is a rule for liberals of which I am unaware that requires, should one say anything neutral or even the least bit decent, some sort of put down of her, and those who actually like her. Just saying. Pitts continues:

Under neither interpretation, however, does she forfeit her humanity or her right to expect that she will be treated with basic human decency. And stalking another person — sorry, but when even your friends call you a stalker, you’re a stalker — violates that expectation. This is not immersion nor even intrusion. This is invasion.

Unfortunately, invasion has become the media’s default means of covering the rich and famous. Ask Brad Pitt, Sandra Bullock, Tom Cruise. They all enjoy the mixed blessing of being celebrities in an era where lines of propriety have been all but erased and too close is never close enough — an era where you are never out of camera range and folks seem to think themselves entitled to your deepest feelings, failings, secrets and fears, as if public people had no right to private lives. Indeed, if I were Pitt, Bullock or Cruise, I’d make offers on the houses next to mine just in case McGinniss has given somebody ideas.

We have, many of us, chosen to forget this, but the mere fact of being well known does not make an individual abstract or theoretical, nor does it absolve us of the obligation to treat them as we’d wish to be treated. People have the right to live peaceably and privately within their own walls.

Even Sarah Palin.

See what I mean? Generally decent toward Palin in the face of her stalker living next door (and I concur – if one’s own friends refer to you as a stalker, well, it’s probably true). Pitts is right, too – “even” Sarah Palin deserves some privacy from a creep like McGinniss.

And even Palin deserves to have the press treat her like a real person and not a caricature from time to time. Glad to see Pitts starting to emerge from the Hopium haze. There may be hope yet…

  • PssttCmere

    Never hurts when someone wakes up….just wish they would do it sooner and that alot more people would!!

    “Say What You Will…It Feels So Good”

  • sowsear

    Sarah’s lot size leaves a little less room  between her and the stalker next door than other celebrities may enjoy.

  • HC123

    Wait, Palin is accused of smarmy innuendo when a creepy stalker rents the place nextdoor? Really?

  • HC123

    And again with the “polarizing”. Thats some code word, I just cant put my finger on its exact meaning for them. Didnt they use it with Hillary Clinton too? Shes just too polarizing!

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    I know – the irony, right?

    And yes – she has far less room between her house and the other compaerd to most stars.

    What is amazing are all of these people who were hoodwinked by this guy!

  • Breeze

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    Got to get to bed early tonight, so I will leave with a happy note about Sarah:

    Sarah Palin’s Way of ThinkingEditorial of The New York Sun | June 5, 2010

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    If a policy reform is going to come out of British Petroleum’s catastrophe in the Gulf of Mexico, we predict it will emerge in the outlines of Sarah Palin’s post Wednesday on her Facebook page. That is where she sends what she calls a “message to exreme ‘environmentalists’ who hypocritically protest domestic energy production offshore and onshore.” Writes she: “Extreme deep water drilling is not the preferred choice to meet our country’s energy needs, but your protests and lawsuits and lies about onshore and shallow water drilling have locked up safer areas. It’s catching up with you. The tragic, unprecedented deep water Gulf oil spill proves it.”

    The former governor’s statement is being met with much ridicule among those who are agitating for, say, President Obama to show more emotion. The line against her is that her mantra of “Drill, Baby, Drill” was meant to refer to just such deep water drilling as British Petroleum was doing at a depth of a mile in the Gulf of Mexico. But her famous chant was in fact a call for tapping our own oil petroleum reserves, particularly in Alaska, though not only there. She favors drilling both offshore and on-. Her policy is centered in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and the her state’s other great oil and gas fields, such as the National Petroleum Reserve on the North Slope of Alaska.

    Governor Palin’s point will, we predict, become only more logical in the face of the disaster of the Deepwater Horizon. And she will increasingly come to be seen as having a clear way of thinking. She thinks like an economist. She understands that policies have consequences. If one wants, as the environmentalists have been doing for a decade, to restrict onshore drilling, it is going to incent offshore drilling. Her point: “We need permission to drill in safer areas.” Her warning is that “radical environmentalists” are “damaging the planet” with their efforts “to lock up safer drilling areas.” Her message to the extremists: “Americans are on to you.” No wonder the left is frightened of her — she’s a politician with a sharp and clear mind.Sarah Palin’s Way of Thinking

    —————————————————————————————————–

    Good Night & Blessings,
    B

  • Yttik

    “Polarizing” when used as a term to describe women means they have opinions and this silly idea that they have the right to express them. See, women are supposed to always compromise, negotiate, be diplomatic, etc.

    The term polarizing in political science doesn’t really have a judgment attached to it, it doesn’t mean somebody is electable or not electable, good or bad. But the word “polarizing” when used by the media to describe female candidates is intended as a put down. There’s a history behind it, women are known to start wars, to sink ships, to create havoc, because they are just so polarizing.

  • PortiaElizabeth

    I nearly fell off my espadrilles when I saw a clip on Fox that showed Bill Maher defending Sarah Palin and criticizing McGiniss.  If these sorts of miracles keep happening, Sarah may just qualify for sainthood.

  • Ladydawnelle

    W00T!!

  • Breeze

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    You know, when I couldn’t find this thread in the morning, I thought I was
    allucinating/got senile overnight….

    What happened?

  • POdVet

    I know…but the sad truth is. If Palin came out for legalizing pot tomorrow. Maher would be kissing her ass 24/7! He is nothing but a brain damaged dope fiend now. And needs to be locked up for his own safety.

  • Sassy

    Amy, I agree with your position on Leonard Pitts.
    In this column, he still chooses to nibble around the edges rather than take a bite out of McGinnis. Oh well, at least it’s something. Nice find!

  • Guest

    Good for McGinniss! I hope he reveals what a fraud Palin actually is.

    Like some of you supporters of the AZ law, if Palin has nothing to hide then what is she worried about?

    “The mayor said to me, when I chatted with him in his office a couple of days ago,” McGinniss said. ” ‘You know, if Sarah had the brains that we like to think she has, Todd would have come back and said, do you know who’s living next door? This son of a bitch McGinniss who wrote that Portfolio piece. He’s writing a book about you. Sarah should have baked a plate of cookies, and come around the fence, and said hi, and laughed about this.’ I would have happily accepted a cookie, and then in my book I would have had a lovely scene about how gracious she had been.” He sighed. “She is, in many ways, a very gracious person.”

  • Michelle from the Resistance

    I’m sure someone had posted it before, but it worth a repeat:

  • susiepuma

    Oh please – the fraud in chief is the only fraud I know of – Sarah Palin has been investigated, spied upon, and worked over by the press since McCain picked her as his running mate……………

    Compare that with what has been investigated by the LSM (not talking about the internet bloggers who have found reams of info about the fraud) about the pResident poseur – ‘crickets’ – just what I thought -

    go troll somewhere else – coward ‘guest’ – must have just gotten his/her monthly stipend from the progs…………………..

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    ROTFLMAO – love that, PortiaElizabeth “nearly fell off my espradrilles” – good one!

    Wow, it MUST be a miracle if Bill Maher is saying anything nice abt Palin!  Holy moley – good thing I’m sitting down…

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    LOL – sorry abt that Breeze.  Sometimes, posts have to be re-arranged.  That’s what happened to this one.  Once it is re-scheduled, it disappears from sight.  Sorry for the hallucinations! 

  • Sassy

    I don’t have anything to hide, BUT if a stalker with binoculars is on a deck 15 feet from my home and family, he will get an earful along with an eyeful…up close and personal!
    I might even throw in a paragraph or two for free!

  • creeper

    Guest!  I got a picture of you in Seattle last week.  Here it is.

  • creeper

    Guest!  I took a picture of you in Seattle last week.  Here it is.

  • Sassy

    Picture perfect, creeper!

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Guest you need your head testing if you do not see anything wrong with this invasion of privacy into Sarah Palin and her daughters lives. You obviously have the same mind frame as McGinniss,’ shame the rest of us have to live alongside oddballs like you!

  • kenoshamarge

    Sad isn’t it that we have a celebration when a columnist, one that we at one time respected, is even 1/2 way fair? Shows how low our standards have become because of how low the standards of our media have become.

    You nice people are nicer and more forgiving than I am. Once someone makes it onto my sh*t list they have to do something better than this to get off.

  • Ladydawnelle

    Embrace SENILITY !!  lmao! ;)

  • Ladydawnelle

    right on my Sista!

  • Ladydawnelle

    omg cough, gag, cough, hack, hack, dry hack!  ur killin me! lol

  • Ladydawnelle

    she’s created quite the miracle already considering I used to think all GOP/Republicans were evil and now some of them are my BEST friends so that truly is a miracle. 

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    LOL, KenoshaMarege, you have a point there.  But rather than a “celebration,” how abt “extreme cautious optimism”?

  • Breeze

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    LOL, LOL….

    No big deal RRRAmy!

    Thanks.

  • Yttik

    It’s true! We’re celebrating because a columinst grudgingly acknowledges that Sarah Palin may be entitled to a few basic human rights.

  • carol haka

    That looks more like Obama after slipping in the oil slick!

    :-D

  • Guest

    Susiepuma, if Palin has been so picked over than she has nothing to worry about.

    And JustMe, anything anyone can do to destroy what little credibility Palin has then great. She is an evil in this country. Her far-right views, her extreme religion and her stupidity take this country backward.

  • kenoshamarge

    How about you, being a nice lady, express “extreme cautious optismim” and I, being a cranky old crabass express extreme cautious and grudging doubt that this is a sign of a trend. I am what I am.

    Now I’m off to find a parade to rain on.

    I like your posts RRRA. They always get good discussions going.

  • Breeze

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    So, THEY drove her out of the Governorship and now they are driving her and
    her family out of their own home.

    But just remember what her father said “……she’s just reloading!”

    This woman WILL. NEVER. QUIT.!

    I. L.O.V.E. H.E.R.

    There goes the (Palins’) neighborhood  
     
    Washington Post,  
    by Kathleen Parker     
     
    Original Article  
     
    6/2/2010  
     
    Sarah and Todd Palin may move their family out for the summer, thanks to their new “creepy” neighbor, writer Joe McGinniss.

    So said Todd Palin in a telephone interview with me as he described the strange events unfolding around his family’s backyard. McGinniss is renting the house next to the Palins, from which he can keep a close eye on the former governor’s comings and goings.

    Regardless of one’s political views, anyone with any remnant of respect for others’ privacy can sympathize with the Palins. As Todd put it: “This is a non-partisan issue.” Hence, our conversation.

  • Cindy

    Thank you Rev. Amy, for that article. I don’t believe I’ve ever heard of Leonard Pitts. Maybe there IS hope (and change??) yet!

  • Cindy

    JustMe—-you’re so right!!

  • surfered

    I’m sorry, but Mrs. Palin was never a serious candidate.  She’s turned out to be an opportunist, cashing in on her 15 minutes of John McCain given fame.  She didn’t know why there were two Koreas, still believed Saddam had something to do with 9/11, prayed for natural gas pipelines and believed in exorcisms.  It’s not a matter of being liberal or conservative, it’s a matter of being a thinking, rational person.

  • Cindy

    Portia—LOL!

  • Cindy

    Michelle——LOL…I’ve not seen that vid before, but it’s gold, I tell ya…gold!!

  • Ladydawnelle

    ok Breeze you reminded me with the “reloading” thing about two HYSTERICAL bumper stickers I saw a few days ago

    1) Stop honking, I’m reloading

    2) If you can read this, you’re within range

    LOL my 85yr old MOM and I couldnt stop LOL  (there would have been a day that I would have been AGASP)

  • Breeze

    THE EVIL IN THIS COUNTRY IS YOUR MESSIAH!!!

  • Ladydawnelle

    opportunist?  ROFLMAO!!!!  we have the BIGGEST OPPORTUNIST in the COSMOS trying to FK up America right NOW! 

    you are so narrow minded if you believe anything you just said troll

  • Cindy

    HC123—-I was still very active in Democartic politics in 2007 (until May 31, 2008)…..the word “polarizing” was used alot down here in Texas, when some of the Dem. bigwigs would talk about Hillary…….even before she announced her candidacy!
    But when I would ask them to explain, they couldn’t really give an answer that made sense. What they REALLY were saying was that Hillary wasn’t a “cool” dude….ya, know, like Barack.

  • Breeze

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    “Sad isn’t it that we have a celebration when a columnist, one that we at one time respected, is even 1/2 way fair? Shows how low our standards have become because of how low the standards of our media have become.” 

    Well, Kenoshamarge, what you just said could apply to Helen Thomas, too.
    It’s a trend, I guess….

    Sad, sad, sad…..

  • Ladydawnelle

    COURAGE!!  That’s the word I’ve been trying to think is the word SARAH has given so many of us!  If nothing else, she has awakened the sleeping MAMMA (bear or not) and that’s something ANY candidate for ANY office would hope to bring to their voting public!  the COURAGE to SPEAK UP, SPEAK OUT, and PERHAPS MAKE A DIFFERENCE!  FINALLY!  WOOT!!   don’t let ANYONE tell you anything less Sarah!

  • Breeze

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    “….it’s a matter of being a thinking, rational person.”

    Like your Messiah, surfered?

    ROTFLMAO!!!

  • Breeze

    “….it’s a matter of being a thinking, rational person.” 
     
    Like your VAUNTED Messiah, surfered? 
     
    ROTFLMAO!!!

  • AC

    Damn, and I though polarizing had something to do with my sun glasses–I learn something every day.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Guest
    Sarah Palin has more credibility than you will EVER have considering the mere fact you feel this behavior is OK.
    DESTROY? There is something terribly wrong to harbor such deep seeded resentment for a woman who is simply asking for privacy for her daughters and herself, to live without some PEEPING TOM prying into their lives at HOME.
    When she is out on the political circuit Sarah Palin, is open to criticism on her policies as every other politician buts lets heave her home as a sanctuary that every family is entitled to!  The fact that you openly feel it’s OK to destroy a woman and her family in their own home shows exactly the type of person you are!

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Guest  
    Sarah Palin has more credibility than you will EVER have considering the mere fact you feel this behavior is OK.  
    DESTROY? There is something terribly wrong to harbor such deep seeded resentment for a woman who is simply asking for privacy for her daughters and herself, to live without some PEEPING TOM prying into their lives at HOME.  
    When she is out on the political circuit Sarah Palin, is open to criticism on her policies as every other speaker/politician buts lets heave her home as a sanctuary that every family is entitled to!  The fact that you openly feel it’s OK to destroy a woman and her family in their own home shows exactly the type of person you are!

  • jwrjr

    ” I don’t believe I’ve ever heard of Leonard Pitts.”  Consider yourself fortunate.

  • jwrjr

    “it’s a matter of being a thinking, rational person.”  What has that to do with either Obama or “surfered”?

  • AC

    opportunist? ROFLMAO!!!! we have the BIGGEST OPPORTUNIST in the COSMOS trying to FK up America right NOW!
    **************************
    You tell em Ladydawnelle!
    My sentiments to a tee–and thank you.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Guest    
    Sarah Palin has more credibility than you will EVER have considering the mere fact you feel this behavior is OK.    
    DESTROY? There is something terribly wrong to harbor such deep seeded resentment for a woman who is simply asking for privacy for her daughters and herself, to live without some PEEPING TOM prying into their lives at HOME.    
    When she is out on the political circuit Sarah Palin, is open to criticism on her policies as every other speaker/politician buts lets leave her home as a sanctuary that every family is entitled to!  The fact that you openly feel it’s OK to destroy a woman and her family in their own home shows exactly the type of person you are!

  • AC

    opportunist? ROFLMAO!!!! we have the BIGGEST OPPORTUNIST in the COSMOS trying to FK up America right NOW!
    ************​**************
    You tell em Ladydawnelle! But at least surfered got the “I’m sorry” part right. 

  • Breeze

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    I wish Palin was VP!

     Sarah has a history dealing with ‘oil matters’ and has shown she’s effective and adept at

    kicking ass…

    particularly of oil executives.

  • Breeze

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    I wish Palin was VP! 
     
     Sarah has a history dealing with ‘oil matters’ and has shown she’s effective and adept at 
     
    kicking ass… 
     
    particularly of oil executives.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Guest      
    Sarah Palin has more credibility than you will EVER have considering the mere fact you feel this behavior is OK.      
    DESTROY? There is something terribly wrong for you to harbor such deep seeded hatred, for a woman who is simply asking for privacy for her daughters and herself, to live without some PEEPING TOM prying into their lives at HOME.      
    When she is out on the political circuit Sarah Palin, is open to criticism on her policies as every other speaker/politician buts lets leave her home as a sanctuary that every family is entitled to!  The fact that you openly feel it’s OK to destroy a woman and her family in their own home shows exactly the type of person you are!

  • kenoshamarge

    I disagreed with Helen Thomas on many occaisons but I always respected her courage. Now, she’s just one more “reporter” on my junk pile of once-respected columnists.

    The ‘trend” for a very long time has been towards bias and opinion. No stop in between for fairness or honesty.

    Reporting, the real thing, may be a thing of the past. And that IMO means that the “media” doesn’t deserve to be treated any different than the rest of us. They have betrayed the public trust and made a mockery of a “free press”. They are undeserving of their own little amendment because they have failed to live up to it.

  • kenoshamarge

    Oh the rrony of a troll talking about being a “thinking, rational person”. As if a troll or the legion of Obots suffering from PDS were thinking, rational or persons. Too funny for words.

  • candymarl

    Excellent Michelle ft R! =-X

  • kenoshamarge

    How about this one?

  • Guest

    JustMe my deep distaste for Palin is all about here far-right and religious views. I cannot stand the fact that people like her push their particulary view on life on to the rest of us. Far right-wing evangelicals are an evil on this country. They move the country backward not forward.

    I am not a religious person, but evangelicals have done more to destroy religion in this country by politicing religion and her wild west views on the economy are what got this country into the economic mess we are in. Palin has nothing to offer, so good on McGinniss. She wants to be in the spotlight to make millions then McGinniss will put her in the spotlight.

  • candymarl

    LLLAAADDDYYY! I have embraced it! What was I saying?

  • susiepuma

    The distance between the two houses is too narrow but the place next door was grandfathered – so that’s why it’s so close to the Palin home – last year they rented it so no one was next door  but evidently the owner felt that some renovations she made should have been paid for by the Palin’s and because they didn’t pay – she rented to the creep – must be an obot dem – kinda like the stupid woman who claimed that the fraud was gonna pay her mortgage, buy her gas, etc. right after his selection win ……………….

    Redistribution of wealth is still alive……………………..

  • Docelder

    Being an Obama asstroturfer now must be the most thankless job in the world.

  • susiepuma

    oh gag me………………………………..

    what’s really sad is that a lot of men still believe that shit………

  • susiepuma

    thanks kenoshamarge – I needed a laugh today & as soon as I saw the pic – started laughing – brught the lady to mind who used to do that commercial – was what I would call “a broad” – nancy somebody

    funny, funny

  • Breeze

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    CNBC said W.H.A.T.?

    CNBC Host Says Obama
    Sullied Office With ‘Ass
    to Kick’ Line

    U.S. News & World Report,
    by Paul Bedard   

    Original Article

    6/8/2010

    Not everybody was pleased with President Obama’s uncharacteristic line on the Today Show, spoken in the pre-school hours Tuesday morning, that he wants some “ass to kick” in the Gulf oil crisis. Becky Quick, who co-hosts Squawk Box with lead anchor Joe Kernen and co-host Carl Quintanilla, slapped Obama for using unpresidential language in an interview he knew would be aired as children prepared for school.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Excuse me? This post is covering Sarah Palin and ‘Stalker’ Next Door:
    Below, are you’re off the cuff thoughts on Sarah Palin so cut turning this around by bringing religion into the equation. Looks like you’re grasping at straws to redeem yourself. However you have openly offered your thoughts and stated right at the beginning this was some kind of Garden Party and baking cookies for a stalker and all will be OK.
    This is about Sarah Palin and her daughter’s privacy, to live freely without some jackass peering over the fence and taking notes on everything they do or say. We’ve heard it & seen it, and there is nothing you can now say that will make me understand your reasoning any differently!

    Good for McGinniss! I hope he reveals what a fraud Palin actually is.  
    If Palin has been so picked over than she has nothing to worry about. 
    Anything anyone can do to destroy what little credibility Palin has then great.

  • Breeze

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    MAYBE THERE IS A

    GLIMMER OF H.O.P.E.

    AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL?

  • Ladydawnelle

    LOL  {{{Candymarl}}}

  • Breeze

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    ONE OF THE COMMENTS:

    Rookie Mistakes

    I’ve been a top level manager for many years. Watching Obama is like watching a brand new manager. He’s making all the rookie mistakes, and then some. However, you KNOW you’re not a leader when everyone around you is making suggestions on how you should “act” which means they’ve all noticed you’re lost and foundering too. If you don’t have principles, it will show. Real leadership comes from knowing what you believe in and standing for it. Obama has a very long way to go and my personal opinion is that he simply doesn’t have what it takes. If he were on “The Apprentice” he’d be gone first or second show.

  • Trixta

    Yes…step out of your box as a “woman” and you’re polarizing … hysterical … a ball buster,  a b@##$h, etc.

  • Trixta

    Yes, but it seems like the “Left” has agreed to “defend” her against The Creep so they can later say that their treatment of her is “fair and unbiased.”  I stopped watching Maher in 2008 when he went all out for BO.  If Maher could agree with GWB on some points (e.g. profiling), then he surely can find areas where he could agree with Palin — or at least admire her courage to speak out on issues she cares about.    This said, Maher is a pig when it comes to women and gender issues.

  • honestlawyermostly

     it’s a matter of being a thinking, rational person.

    That is rich.  Even if I assume that what you claim about Palin is true (two Koreas, Saddam and 9/11, etc.), a person can be ignorant– lack knowledge– and still be thinking and rational.  If Obama has any qualities that make him capable of being an acceptable President, I confess that I am ignorant about that.  Maybe he led his cub scout troop?  In spite of my ignorance about his background, my thinking, rational self says that he is a fool for isolating Israel, for not responding immediately to shield the Gulf coast from oil, for not firing Salazar, for not using the Arizona immigration debate as a “teaching moment” instead of a crass political opportunity, and for the many other screw-ups he has inflicted on this country.  Palin, like all of us, may be ignorant about some things, but even in her ignorance, she can manage a state, be a mother and wife, and field dress a moose.  Those qualities alone put her far ahead of Obambi.

  • Trixta

    Oh dumb, Guest!  I mean really … this is how McGuinnes would have reacted?  His view of Sarah is so extreme that no amount of home-baked cookies is going to change that.

  • Trixta

    And BOts!

  • Trixta

     ”her wild west views on the economy”….

    Which?  

  • Trixta

    I cannot stand the fact that people like her push their particulary view on life on to the rest of us. Far right-wing evangelicals are an evil on this country. They move the country backward not forward. 
     
    “I am not a religious person, but evangelicals have done more to destroy religion in this country by politicing religion and her wild west views on the economy are what got this country into the economic mess we are in. ”

    You criticize Palin for her religious views, and yet you worship of at the feet of Obama, your Messiah.  How richly hypocritical! 

  • sowsear

    Yes, thinking is bad for some…

  • sowsear

    Isn’t there a saying, “If you see a light at the end of a tunnel, it’s probably a train”.

  • Breeze

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    Obama Official: Netanyahu Waiting for ‘President Palin’

    Israel National News [Arutz Sheva],
    by Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu   

    Original Article

    6/8/2010

    The Netanyahu government’s attitude to the United States shows it is “waiting for President [Sarah] Palin, an Obama official reportedly told Peter Beinart, writing for the Atlantic Monthly news site. Palin was the Republican candidate for vice president two years ago and is considered a front-running candidate for the next presidential election in 2012. “As an Obama official once told me about the Netanyahu team, with amazement, ‘these guys are actually waiting for President Palin,’” wrote Beinart, a senior political writer for The Daily Beast and associate professor of journalism and political science

  • sowsear

    OT but look who else wants a New World Order…
    http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=8903171502

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Thanks Cindy?!!!  
    If we are not careful, according to Guests logic, it won’t matter who we are as women, we will all be able to be scrutinized simply for breathing and walking around!

  • Docelder

    That kind of gives me the willies to be honest abot it.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Guest!  I got a picture of you in Seattle last week.
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    Looks a lot like Prime Obot and jackie, as well.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Oh and BTW Guest before I close I want YOU to remember

     
    EVERY WOMAN on this blog is a “Sarah Palin”
    And all women here with daughters are Sarah Palins daughters!
    This is not about Sarah seeing Russia from an Island in Alaska
    This is about EVERY WOMANS PRIVACY to live with out a STALKER over the other side of our fence.
     
    So talk to the hand next time with your hate filled pointless views!

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Oh and BTW Guest before I close I want YOU to remember
     
    EVERY WOMAN on this blog is a “Sarah Palin”
    And all women here with daughters are Sarah Palins daughters!
    This is not about Sarah seeing Russia from an Island in Alaska
    This is about EVERY WOMANS PRIVACY to live with out a STALKER over the other side of our fence.
     
    So talk to the hand next time with your hate filled pointless views!

  • Cindy

    JustMe—hooray for you! That was wonderfully stated!!

  • Cindy

    JustMe—hooray for you! Your comment was wonderfully stated!

  • Ferd Berfle

    Guest is just a mysogynist obamacrat, ~~JustMe~~ and nothing more.

  • Ferd Berfle

    And JustMe, anything anyone can do to destroy what little credibility Palin has then great. She is an evil in this country. Her far-right views, her extreme religion and her stupidity take this country backward.
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    Guest, the definition of stupid is anyone who voted for That One. So you have a whole lot of company.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Yes, y’all are spot on – it WAS used for Hillary (and Cindy, I stopped being a Dem the same day you did!).  That’s the way to tear down a woman, of course.  Just call her “polarizing” because women aren’t supposed to have an opinion on anything, dontcha know?

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    LOL – you said it, Docelder!  I wonder what tha pay is for that these days?  Maybe they just keep them soused with Kool Aide so they don’t know that over half the country doesn’t buy what Obama/they are selling anymore…

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    And we love ya for it!!  I confess, I am definitely one of those “hope springs eternal” kind of people, though Obama did mess up that whole “hope” word.  Blech.  Anywho – maybe it’s the minister thing, believing in redemption, who knows?  I do know your point of view is welcome anytime, sister!

  • tango

    I guess we know who the Israelies believe would be on their side should push come to shove. Hmmm.

  • jwrjr

    “Polarizing” means that Palin (or whomever) does not concede the Party line that Obama is the bestest President that there ever was or ever could be.

  • jwrjr

    Isn’t saying “mysogynist obamacrat” repeating yourself?

  • wodiej

    OMG….LMAO

  • wodiej

    Yes ma’am they do….

  • wodiej

    You truly are confused.  This thread is not about Palin’s religion.  But..Palin has a right to her Christian views as much as you have to your lack of them-NO? Palin worked with Democrats and Republicans in her administration as Governor. One of her best friends is Gay.  She does not force her views on anyone.  You sound troubled.  Go get some help. 

  • candymarl

    Her wild west views tanked the economy? So exactly when was she President? What laws did she sign passed by Congress?

    Actually she left Alaska better off economically than she found it. She also refused to support corrupt fellow Republicans when they were under Federal investigation.  That’s one of the reasons her own Party turned on her.

    The Republicans in her state tried to pass a law banning gay marriage. She vetoed it because the majority of Alaskans were against it.

    That hardly sounds like a hardcore far rightwinger.

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  • Breeze

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    Heck, the damage is done, as planned. 
    Nobody can really help anymore, Sarah….

    From now on it’s all theater.

    Too bad TheOne is such a lousy actor….

  • EllenD

    so good on McGinniss

    Hey Guest – Aussie perhaps? Or?????

    JustMe uses the American “good for McGinniss.”