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William Ayers was just a guy in the neighborhood—Barack Obama

We know that this is a lie. See my reprised post at bottom, which is worth reviewing as Obama was at it again in his interview with O’Reilly where he repeated his lies in this interview. It was a shame that Bill gave him a pass on this.

We know from multiple sources that Obama has a 20 year relationship—personal, business, and political—with unrepentant terrorists William “Bill” Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, and Michael Klonsky. Obama even brought Klonsky directly into his campaign and sources suggest that Ayers and Axelrod, who are apparent friends, regularly discuss campaign strategy regarding this terrorist clique. And don’t forget, that not just Barack is involved with these terrorists but so is Michelle, possibly even longer through her family ties in the community.

The lies are clear and irrefutable. What is behind the lies is absolutely damning.

Damning not just for any common citizen, but also for a sitting U.S. Senator, and especially for a campaigning presidential candidate. Barack, Michelle, and their terrorists friends through a series of shared and overlapping organizations spent public and private money on their pet projects, friends, and church. The biggest chunck of money, around $160 million, passed through Barack-lead Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Audits of the results showed complete failure to achieve any stated goals (except enrich the recipients). Barack and Michelle also organized and funded organizations that are terroristic, short the bombs.

As Barack and Michelle have not been forthcoming on their past activities and have not been vetted, everyone is left with incomplete pictures of the past. As with their 20 year relationship with Bill Ayers and leading role in Chicago Annenberg Challenge, they lie, deny, and omit.

Yes, Obama was a “community organizer” like Ayers, Dohrn, and Klonsky, but apparently stopped short of his friends’ bombthrowing. While Public Allies, Chicago Public Allies, and ACORN are accused of many repugnant and illegal activiites, even landing many members or trainees in jail, they have not been accused of violent bombings.

Even with an embarrassingly thin resume, Barack lied rather than tell about his “executive” roles in Chicago Annenberg Challenge and Public Allies. He doesn’t say anything about his role, successes, and failures in spending over $160 million. Why? Because these organizations by and large failed and often used the money to enrich his wife and terrorist friends.

Obama the presidential candidate is not really an empty suit at all. He is really a provocateur, friend and agent of terrorists, and a liar.

From my original post (September 7 post at NoQuarterUSA):

Why is Barack Obama and his campaign lying about his relationship and association with William “Bill” Ayers? Consider what Obama said on April 16, 2008 when asked about Ayers at the ABC Primary Debate in Philadelphia:

“This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who’s a professor of English in Chicago who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He’s not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis. And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was eight years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn’t make much sense…”

The very next day, the Obama campaign posted on its Web site under the title “Fact Check on Obama and Ayers” the following, each prefaced with “Reality” and backed up with one or media reports:

  • Obama was eight years old when the Weathermen were active
  • Ayers connection is “phony,” “tenuous,” “a stretch”
  • Ayers comments were published on September 11; the interview occurred prior to publication
  • Ayers is a tenured professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago and was a “respected adviser” to Mayor Daley on school reform.
  • Charges against Ayers were dropped and he served no time

Obama continued his lies about Ayers when he appeared on Fox News Sunday, April 27. Barack repeated the claim that, “Mr. Ayres (sic) is a 60 plus year old individual who lives in my neighborhood…” (Fox News, April 27, 2008).

The campaign to persuade the public that Barack barely knew Ayers got a boost on August 21, 2008 from TruthFightsBack.com (John Kerry’s Web site for the Obama campaign). The site trumpeted, “Barack Obama Barely Knows William Ayers” and wrote that “The Republicans, desperate to smear Barack and try to build on their lies about his religion, insinuate that Barack Obama has a deep relationship with William Ayers. William Ayers was once a member of a radical group in the 1960s.” TruthFightsBack.com calls this lie “The Truth” under the title Barack Obama Barely Knows William Ayers:

“Barack Obama lived in the same area of Chicago as Ayers, and Ayers has been a politically active member of that community for years. Considering that, it’s actually remarkable how little the two have to do with each other. Early in Barack Obama’s career, he attended one reception in his honor at Ayers’s house. They also were separately asked by a charitable organization to serve on that organization’s board. And that’s it. There’s no friendship between the two, no relationship, no history of working together.”

The Obama team’s effort to cover up Barack’s ties to Ayers included an organized campaign to intimidate a Chicago radio station (WGN) that planned to interview Stanley Kurtz, who had succeeded in examining documents from the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC). The campaign emailed an Obama Action Wire to its supporters encouraging them to call in to the show and use following talking points (as found on the report form for supporters to log their call):

  • William Ayers was involved with the Weather Underground when Barack Obama was eight years old, and Barack has roundly condemned their actions.
  • Last night on Fox News, Kurtz tried to radicalize an education reform program in Chicago called the Annenberg Challenge. The Challenge was funded by Republican Walter Annenberg, introduced by Mayor Daley and Republican Governor Jim Edgar, and one of its initiatives was even praised by John McCain.
  • Kurtz claimed on Fox News that William Ayers recruited Obama to the Annenberg Challenge — a flat out lie. Ayers did not serve on the board of the Challenge, and he had nothing to do with Barack’s recruitment.

Lies, big lies, and damned lies. The Obama team offers a disingenuous blend of fact and fiction in trying to cover up the true relationship between Obama and Ayers. The devil is in the detials and details do matter:

Ayers is just a guy who lives in my neighborhood, a tenured professor, and adviser to the local mayor

Ayers does live in Barack’s neighborhood (or vice versa). In fact, Barack and Bill currently live about two blocks apart on Greenwood Avenue and 50th Street. And before Barack’s “boneheaded” deal with convicted felon Rezko to purchase the Greenwood mansion, Obama lived about 1-1/4 miles from Bill. But the dismissive “just a guy who lives in my neighborhood” is a lie because Ayers was not just some fellow Barack bumped into at the corner market. They have a relationship that goes back nearly 20 years. Ayers was Barack’s friend, employer, colleague, and political supporter.

Ayers also is a tenured professor and multiple reports indicate he also is a buddy of Chicago’s Mayor Richard Daley. In fact, Mayor Daley has defended him during the campaign saying they’ve worked together, that Bill Ayers is a respected educator, and valued member of the Chicago community (Chicago Tribune, April 17, 2008).

It is unfair to say that Ayers’ actions 40 years ago when I was only eight should reflect upon me; anyway, charges against him where dropped and he did not serve any jail time. Plus, I’ve condemned the group’s actions

False. It is entirely fair to judge Barack by the people he surrounds himself with. Bill Ayer’s may have beat the terrorism charges but he has remained resolutely unrepentant about his actions. In 1981 David Horowitz quotes him bragging “Guilty as hell. Free as a bird. America is a great country.” In 2001 he is quoted saying “I don’t regret settings bombs. I feel we didn’t do enough.” (New York Times, September 11, 2001). Bill’s wife, Bernadine Dohrn went to jail rather than aid the government after the deadly Brinks armored car robbery. I like the comment at Hot Air (February 24, 2008) where See-Dubya expresses concern about Barack’s “…frightening tone-deafness toward terrorism, and a blithe ignorance of the evil and chaos these radicals represent.”

Any connection to Ayers is phony, tenuous, or a stretch. It is ridiculous to suggest any tie with Ayers

False. Everything discovered to date undeniably document that Barack Obama and Bill Ayers have personal, professional, and political ties that span nearly 20 years. Steve Diamond believes they likely first met in 1988 following Chicago’s teacher’s strike. Barack was hired into a Woods Fund sponsored position with Developing Communities Project that was a member of Bill Ayers’ Alliance for Better Chicago Schools (ABCs) (Global Labor and Politics, June 7, 2008).

Consider as well:

  • In November 20, 1997. Michelle Obama, then Associate Dean of Student Services and Director of the University of Chicago Community Service Center, organized and participated in a panel that included Barack and Bill, Should a child ever be called a “super predator?” at the University of Chicago. See also, Chicago Tribune.
  • In 1997 Barack wrote a review of Bill’s book “A Kind and Just Parent: The Children of Juvenile Court”. Chicago Tribune published a blurb from Obama about books he was reading. See also USA Today.
  • April 19-20, 2002, Barack, Bill, and Bernadine participated in a conference and panel “Intellectuals: Who Needs Them?“. See also, Chicago Tribune.
  • February 2005. Barack and Bill participated in a conference and dinner for Rashid Khalidi at Columbia wherein they offered testimonials to Khalidi. Mayor Daley also attended this hate-fest. (See The Sun and Campus Watch for some commentary. Khalidi subsequently lost his position at Columbia because of his comments, see New York Times.)

Ayers did not help launch my career

False. Back in 1995 after Barack Obama had returned to Chicago upon graduating from Harvard Law School, Bill Ayers hired the young Barack, then a third year associate at Davis, miner, Barnhill & Gallad. Together they spent upwards to $160 million dollars over the next seven years. As well, Bill and his wife Bernadine Dohrn feted him to the community as then-State Senator Palmer’s successor.

Early in Barack Obama’s career, he attended one reception in his honor at Ayers’ house

Not the whole truth. This was not a meet and greet reception. And Barack had more than one isolated sit down with Ayers and Dohrn. The Ayers/Dohrn home is where Barack Obama launched his campaign to oust then-State Senator Alice Palmer. This reception is reported in numerous articles including Ben Smith in Politico (February 22). Maria Warren writes about this gathering in her blog Musings & Migraines on January 27, 2005, “When I first met Barack Obama, he was giving a standard, innocuous little talk in the living room of those two legends-in-their-own-minds, Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn. They were launching him–introducing him to the Hyde Park community as the best thing since sliced bread.” Ari Berman also reports in The Nation (May 1) that Bill hosted a fundraiser for Barack in 1996. (Possibly an error on Berman’s part as this might be the 1995 event since there is no other mention of a 1996 fundraiser.)

Ayers had nothing to do with my joining Annenberg Challenge. He did not recruit me, nor did he serve on its board

False. Bill Ayers founded the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, secured the initial $50 million from Annenberg Challenge, and claims to have co-chaired the Collaborative it with Barack Obama. While there is nothing to explicitly prove that Bill recruited Barack, it is simply not credible to say that Bill Ayers had nothing to do with Barack Obama joining the organization.

I do not exchange ideas with Ayers

Really? Can you say the same thing about your communications director, David Axelrod? According to a source who attended the Democratic National convention in Denver, an old friend of Ayer’s bragged that Axelrod and Ayers are in regular contact and coordinating on how to respond to the claims about the Ayers/Obama relationship.

Ayers has not ‘officially’ endorsed me

Really? So he’s backing McCain? The issue is not who Ayers has endorsed. The issue remains–why did Barack hang out for so many years with a guy like Ayers. Endorsement or not, it is a question that matter.

Ayers has been a politically active member of that community for years

True. First, as a home-grown domestic terrorist, then since around 1987 as a community activist, organizer, and financier. As Lynn Sweet wrote in the Chicago Sun-Times (March 3), “Hyde Park welcomed William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn to the neighborhood after they resurfaced as local civic leaders following their years on the lam as members of the Weather Underground.” She notes Ben Smith observing in Politico (February 22), “While Ayers and Dohrn may be thought of in Hyde Park as local activists, they’re better known nationally as two of the most notorious — and unrepentant — figures from the violent fringe of the 1960s anti-war movement.”

Considering that, it’s actually remarkable how little the two have to do with each other

Oh yeah?! Now this is where the lying really begins. As is increasingly clear, they worked together and shared the same circle of friends and families, same business associates, and same political associates.

They also were separately asked by a charitable organization to serve on that organization’s board

Not true. They were involved in at least three different “charitable” organizations. There was the Woods Fund of Chicago, which Barack joined 1993 and Bill Ayers joined in 1997. But what about the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which Ayers founded and worked on with Barack Obama from 1995 through 1999. While Barack chaired the Challenge, Bill co-chaired its Collaborative arm. This was actually three connected organizations: Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC, the Board), Chicago School Reform Collaborative (the Collaborative, and Consortium of Chicago Schools Research (CCSR).

And that’s it. There’s no friendship between the two…

Ben Smith in Politico (February 22) writes that Dr. Quentin Young, a prominent Chicago physician, told him that they were “friends”. At the time Smith dismissed this for lack of supporting information and the denial by Barack Obama. (I wonder if Smith has since reconsidered?). Mayor Daley now says they are friends. Even Bill Burton acknowledges that they were friends.

…no relationship

False. They have family, community, business, and political ties. The only tie they appear to not share regards religion.

…no history of working together

False. Why is the media so reluctant to explore the CAC relationship?

At the risk of being redundant, sometime in 1987 Bill and Bernadine returned home to Chicago, where both had family. Michelle likely already knew both through her Robinson family ties and then in her 1988 work at Sidley Austin, where Bernardine was also employed. It is likely that Barack at least knew of Bill Ayers because he was already involving himself among with the Ayers family and their players in the community. Bill Ayers operated in relative obscurity until February 2008 when his ties to Barack and Michelle Obama became a matter of discussion in Barack’s presidential aspirations.

As a community organizer in Chicago from 1985 to 1988 Barack Obama received funding from and worked with numerous groups, such as Developing Communities Project. Bill Ayers joined in this arena upon his return in 1987 through his own group, Alliance for Better Chicago Schools (ABCs). They both surely crossed paths as Ayer’s father, Tom, provided funding to Barack and Bill through Chicago United, a group of businessmen concerned about race and education issues in Chicago. Tom Ayers was once CEO of Commonwealth Edison (now Exelon) (Steve Diamond, Global Labor and Politics, June 18, 2008). Michelle, the Robinson daughter, continued her own involvement but details are murky at best. Barack Obama shows up again in Chicago after graduating from Harvard Law School, ends up at Davis Miner Barnhill & Galland, and joins the Woods Fund board, 1993, as a freshly minted 32 year old law school graduate, where he remained through 2002 and continued association with until gaining a seat in the U.S. Senate. Bill Ayers formally joined the board in 1999 but had ties throughout the earlier years, including receiving funds from the group.

Anyway, in 1993 Bill began organizing the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Despite his unrepentant terrorist past he succeeded in securing nearly $50 million from Annenberg Challenge and immediately named Barack as his co-chair. Together over the next five years they spent at least $110 million for “radical” school reform in Chicago (Steve Diamond, Global Labor and Politics, June 18, 2008 and August 18, 2008). Then, or shortly afterward, the remains of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge was handed over to Chicago Public Education Fund.

This was a small circle of people, families, and businesses. They were figuratively partners in crime, Chicago’s political mafia enriching themselves through their political position, through federal, local, and state funding, and through their positions and funds given from private organizations, especially, of immediately focus here, from the Woods Fund and Annenberg Challenge. It is likely that there are other organizations and people involved and this needs to be explored further. Stanley Kurtz, Steve Diamond, and others are now beginning to look into what Annenberg Challenge did with its more than $160 million in private and federal dollars.

But first, let’s get back to Barack, Bill, and Bernadine. Again, Michelle plays at least a bit role in this but to what extent is still unclear. Over the years Barack, Bill, Bernadine, and Michelle show up together, along with other Chicago figures that include Rev. Wright, Minister Farrakhan, Rev. Meeks, Rev. Pfleger, Sen. Jones, and many, many more. Throughout this Barack also had his early ties with friend, businessman, and political financier Tony Rezko and Rezko’s partners and associates. And finally, let’s also not forget organizations that received funding from Barack and Bill, such as:

  • Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN)
  • Arab American Action Network (AAAN) founded by husband and wife Rashid and Mona Khalidi.
  • Maoist Mike Klonsky, another terrorist member of the Weatherman
  • Children and Family Justice Center, Bernardine’s organization.
  • Trinity Unity Church and Rev. Wright.

Finally, what role did Barack’s position as a sitting state senator play in all of this?

Summary

Fairly or not, Chicago has a long reputation as a corrupt political city. It is increasingly clear that Barack joined and became a willing partner in this corruption. The families, organizations, and businesses involved enriched themselves off of the private and public funds that Barack controlled. That Barack Obama lied and continues to lie about his relationship with Bill Ayers is a smokescreen and the tip-of-the-iceberg about the depth of his involvement in what are, or may be, corrupt practices among these people and their organizations.

A Bit of Background and Unresolved Items

As long as this post is, it is still embarrassingly incomplete. In writing this I have read every post at Larry Johnson’s NoQuarterUSA and Steve Diamond’s Global Labor and Politics blogs involving terrorist William Ayers. I also dug through scores of articles and posts at various media sites and blogs. While some matters are consistently reported, others vary significantly. I’m sure I’ve missed many salient points.

It is especially dramatic to read earlier compared to newer posts. Consider Ben Smith’s “Obama once visited ’60s radicals” from February 22, 2008. The title alone shows the naivety of Ben and everyone about the level of Obama’s involvement with Bill and Bernadine. That Obama let such false picture spread without correction, including then and now on his campaign Web sites, further reflects his clear intent to deceive voters.

Four unresolved items in an incomplete list of questions are:

  • What is Michelle’s involvement in all of this?
  • How did Barack’s role in the Illinois Senate affect or was a part of all of this?
  • What are Barack’s other board and organization memberships?
  • Where did the money go? E.g., to friends, family, personal and professional associates, and political cronies?

Suggested Readings

The body of evidence and discussion on the relationship among and between Barack and Michelle Obama, William Ayers, and his wife, Bernadine Dohrn is growing daily. As we get beyond the lies and begin to follow the money I recommend reading the following:

Matthew Weaver
Reprinted from It’s Not Just a Lie, It’s a Matter of Character

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  • IndieDogg

    Great, great work.

    Two things. First, is there an actual list of the recipients of grant money from CAC? What specific organizations got the money and what were their ties to Ayers, Dhorn, Obama or a member of Obama’s extended family. Since Ayers sought and got the grant for the group ,I’d expect to find his fingerprints all over some of the “funded” organizations.

    I know you point out that the money didn’t go directly to school but, rather, to third parties. Who were they? It’s a 501(c)(3) I imagine, receiving tax-exempt status. It’s records should be open. Has this been published somewhere (this thread) and I’ve missed it? Any link would be appreciated. It goes to the question: Not only whether or not Obama and Ayers knew/worked together (on CAC) but, what did they do? Who did they support with the $160 Million (or whatever the correct number is; I’d understood it was $50MM that was matched, making it $100MM, but whatever the correct number is, where did the money go?_

    I’d be shocked if Ayers Obama do not go back in time to New York, early-mid 80′s. And, there is no doubt in my mind that Obama had to know who Ayers and Dhorn were (she was the worse of the two, supposedly, by the way). Ayers and Dhorn, two of the most sought after domestic terrorists of all time, came “out” from the underground in 1980 and turned themselves in. Ayers subsequently enrolled in Banks College, which is virtually adjacent to Columbia on Broadway & 112th Streets in Manhattan. Ayers received a MEd degree in 1984 from Banks. Obama graduated from Columbia in 1984 and stayed in New York. In the early 1980′s, to not know who Ayers and Dhorn were stretches all credibility, particularly for one as “active” as was Obama. Ayers then went on to receive a second degree from Columbia itself, the Teachers’ college (1987). That college is located on the other side of Columbia campus from Banks college.

    Ayers, a notorious domestic terrorist, surfaces in New York City, amidst extensive media coverage, with is wife, and turns himself in. Then followed the media coverage of their charges and the decision related to the wiretaps which eventually tainted the government’s case and prevented the government from trying them. No, they were not “cleared” as has been suggested. Anything but. Quote Bill Ayers, “Guilty as hell, free at last.”

    And, in this time period, Ayers enrolls in a school next door to Columbia, moves in and around that neighborhood, enrolls at Columbia and receives another degree, all the while that Obama is attending Columbia and organizing/working in New York City. And Obama never heard of him until he met him, coincidentally, in Chicago years later? Nobody mentioned who Ayers/Dhorn were to Obama when this unknown person hosted a campaign event for Obama?

    Ridiculous.

    Point. I expect they first knew each other in the mid-80′s in Chicago, somehow through the Columbia / Banks College connection. Which only makes me more curious about what’s in Obama’s Columbia University records that he refuses to release.

    That’s it: (a) the Annenberg money trail and (b) the Columbia University records.

    No idea how to get the second. But, the first, someone has probably tracked down, Yes?

    Keep digging. A million shovels can move a mountain.

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  • Kara/Zack for McCain-Palin

    That’s where Obama and Michelle belongs in Jail!Useing our govenment in this.Nasty low lives.Go back where ever you came from.

    McCain/Palin 08
    Country First

  • Monet

    One researcher has linked Ayers to Khalid al-Mansour, the guy Sutton said was raising money for Senator Obama’s law education. Another researcher, Judah Benjamin theorizes Sutton was confused and he instead wrote a letter of recommendation for the Senator when he was running for the Illinois state senate in the late 90′s and al-Mansour was raising money for the Senator’s campaign. He also theorizes al-Mansour was raising money in Nigeria since his ties to the banking industry there would have given him a source for funds. Al-Mansour would have also crossed paths with Dr. Ndi Okereke-Onyiuke, the director of the Nigerian Stock Exchange who was recently arrested for raising money for Obama’s campaign in Nigeria.

    It appears we’re starting to connect the puzzle pieces in how all the nefarious characters in Senator Obama’s background are linked to each other.

    You can read about the Ayers connection to al-Mansour here:

    http://swordattheready.wordpress.com/2008/09/10/puzzle-pieces-obamas-political-career-launched-by-terrorist-william-ayers/

    Judah Benjamin’s article linking Senator Obama to al-Mansour is on Texas Darlin’s blog.

  • nobamaever09

    Obama said to O’Raley; You must understand how politics runs under Daley in Chicago. So now we know, who Obama truly is, just one of them, for power !!!!

  • nobamaever09

    Obama admited that; He did for political favor to get in Chicago politics, and He did what Daley told Him to do!!!He said, that wns “a tipical” Chicago politics, were all those gangsters were running this State of Illinois!!!So, I guess Obama is one of them, o yes, He is!!!

  • nobamaever09

    O,Rally clearly defended Obama on Ayers-Obama Friendship. He screw up, He defend Obama so clearly, that rise my hair.
    Shame on O’Ralley. On who side O’Ralley truly is. I gues, He is not on McCain, or He is affraid and black mail by Chicago mafia!!!
    Shame on YOU O’Ralley!!! You should be fire by FOX for that comment!!!

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  • Linda

    “I just did about 5 hours of work for [Rezko]“-Obama

    That blatant lie should have cost him the nomination.

    a 20 year friendship, pulled favors, contributed, fundraised, worked on his Senatorial campaign and bought his house for him. ….”just did about 5 hours of work” INDEED.

  • Mandelay

    “ford” mentioned Camille Paglia’s article in Salon (thanks so much for the heads up). It is a heroic piece of writing, whether you agree with Paglia or not. It is a challenge to the Democrats that she has issued in the past but which has fallen on deaf ears. It is heroic writing:

    http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2008/09/10/palin/index.html

    As for Matthew’s writing today and the many postings … it’s one of the most informative I’ve ever read here at NQ and a real education. Thanks all!!!!!

  • nycvoter

    I haven’t had a chance to go through the comments, so if it’s covered I apologize, but could someone here tell me a response to someone asking about Bill Clinton commuting his sentence? maybe the rational.

    Thanks

    • karen for Clinton (sigh, McPalin now)

      Ayers trial was dropped due to technicalities.

      Clinton commuted the sentence of Susan Rosenberg who served 16 years for weapons and dynamite distribution, she denied a part in the Brinks job yet was widely linked to it, I think it was unfounded at the trial and she wasn’t tried for the brinks case or other robberies.

      You can google why Bill commuted it, it had something to do with her being denied parole after she had served a long time for the only thing which she was convicted.

      Bill (and all the other presidents) have had long lists of pardons. Nothing unusual. Barky used it as smoke and mirrors just as he used the picture of Wright at a White House luncheon for hundreds of pastors as deflection. Also, there was even a standard photo op WH pic of Clinton’s with Rezko.

      It is barky who is associated with Ayers and barky with Wright and barky with Rezko and all of them were in long term contact.

      Clinton isn’t the dirty one here, it is all barky.

  • Sassy

    Thanks to the media, only trickles of this information is reaching the majority of Americans.
    If they had the full truth, there would be outrage from coast to coast!

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    Election 2008: Montana Presidential Election
    Montana: McCain Surges Ahead by Double-Digits

    John McCain has opened a double digit lead over Barack Obama in Montana. The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey in the Treasure State finds McCain leading by eleven, 53% to 42%

    • Sassy

      Thanks 30 year dem!
      I knew my folks there would come through!

  • Rob in Chicago

    That picture of Ayers trampling the flag appears to have been taken in a narrow gangway between two buildings (out of the public eye). Had Ayersposed for this photo in public in Chicago, the photo shoot would have likely been continuously interrupted by people wanting to kick his dumb ass.

    • wodiej

      or shot him….

  • Mandelay

    Did anyone else think that Bill O’Rielly dropped the ball on the Annenberg Challenge and the Ayers connections as well as the amount of money controlled by that Board? I found last night’s segment to be very disappointing. On the other hand, Bill will have a nice collection of sound bytes from Obama to use in his upcoming “Obama Chronicles” series which will run for weeks. Hard to tell if O’Rielly has been sippin’ the kool-aid or if he’s building Obama up for an attack.

    • Chicago Joe

      Yes, I am slightly disappointed in Bill, given all the facts I know. Especially when he starts praising him, although I am wondering if he is acting crazy like a fox. I mean there is so much the MSM has not unearthed, at this point, it’s like, where do you start?

      Barack’s new tag line when caught in a lie/politically untenable situation: “What can I say?” Well, I’ve got a few answers for him.

    • Obama is a bum

      O’Reilly has made very little effort to understand Ayers and his relationship to Obama. O’Reilly has been kissing Obama’s ass for a long time, he knows he will be called racist if he takes Obama to task.

      • nobamaever09

        O’Ra;;ey a such tough guy, show His real face, , He batray all those who trusted Him, and He defended Obama. What a skonk O’ralley is!!!

    • nobamaever09

      did You saw, how many times Obama was touching O’Ralley leg when O’Ralley was trying to say something??? Obama didnt let Oralley talk, he shot up O’Ralley. Were those touching as as some signals to O’Ralley, or Obama just like this guy(kidding)…

  • ford

    There is no outrage on the left anymore, unless you are pro-life…everything else is OK.

    This is the NEW Demokratic Party.

  • ford

    Thanks Karen for Clinton…

    Your data should appear in newspapers across this country. Tammy Bruce really hit the danger in this man well last night…on FOX.(Oreilly) It would be great if the picture posted here was attached to BO.

    • karen for Clinton (sigh, McPalin now)

      Not my data. I found it on the Washington Post Trail blog a few weeks ago.

      But I sure do remember those days and it weren’t purdy.

  • http://mccaindemocrats.wordpress.com/ 30yrdem-not any more

    I wonder where all of the outrage was when Bill Clinton gave pardon’s to that group of terrorist???

    • http://libland Oinkbama

      Bill Clinton pardoned people who served time, quite unlike Ayers who NEVER served time.

      • http://mccaindemocrats.wordpress.com/ 30yrdem-not any more

        I don’t believe they all had served time, I may be wrong….Ayers got off on a mistake made by the FBI, from what I read on it.

        • nycvoter

          hey 30 year Dem, nice to see you here. Can you explain a little more. If Ayres got off from FBI mistake, what’s the deal with people saying Bill commuted his sentence. I can’t find anything on it

  • us kid

    Obama with his bio data is just not suitable to be the commander in chief of the USA.

    This shows that Obama is just an ignorant jerk who doesn’t have the ability to analyze his particular strength or intuition for such no: 1 job in the USA and which also happens to be the no: one in the world.

    This Obama is suffering from his psychophrenic obsession just like his revered ‘prophet’ Muhammad.

    Just imagine this ‘prophet’ Muhammad’s legacy has been practiced for 1200 years and have done mankind a labyrinth of disasters.

    Can we Americans take chances to have a ‘prophet’ to rein the USA and let a twin tower II to happen?

    Can you imagine what if ‘prophet’ Muhammad is taking charge of the USA?

    It’s akin to letting the ‘prophet’ to take charge of a vehicle and you know and I know it’s going to crash into pieces a la the twin towers.

    The world is in a mesh with Bush’s rein.

    With Obama’s rein, it’s the end of the world!

    Islamic Hell and Unbelievers

  • Zelda Crunch

    Wow. This article is proof there is good in the Internet. It’s been a while since I’ve seen something like this: the Internet as a way to uncover and root out corruption. Matthew? This was fantastic. It’s a PhD thesis in the making! Absolutely grand work!

    Two comments? First an Obama quote.

    This is a guy who lives in my neighbourhood, who’s a professor of English in Chicago who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He’s not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis. And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was eight years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn’t make much sense.

    Does anybody realise the befuddled grammar of this quote doesn’t make any sense either?

    Charges against Ayers were dropped and he served no time

    This really gets me. We all know why this transpired. And why the rest of the WU went up the river. Tom Ayers. And this in turn gets me: those two people – Bill and his not so charming wife – are two of the most despicable people on the planet. They laugh at people and to this day are warped and think they’re above the law.

    One thing I’m wondering: if they feel they didn’t do enough bombing – why don’t they go out right now and bomb some more?

    And another thing: isn’t it strange no one’s got the notion to bomb them?

    • http://NoteToSelfDontDie.com/members/ gerard “Barracuda” Nedich

      A M E N ! ! ! ! !

      Ayers’ dad is a big shot in chicago… that is why he and his not-so-charming idiot terrorist wife didn’t get prison time…

      in fact his wife got a job as a lawyer (when she couldn’t even practice law!) from a family friend’s firm…

      that is the slimy chicago way…

      a. hillary
      b. mccain

      america first!

    • wodiej

      Obama is full of shit. It’s been proven that he has had a long, illustrious relationship w Ayers and it wasn’t saying hi to him when they crossed paths at the corner of their neighborhood streets. They shared corrupt activities together.

      Obama is one of the most dangerous people in our society today. The fact that so many are easily duped and taken in by him is equally frightening. What kind of society have we become where these types of things are acceptable? This morning on a local radio station they said Michael Jackson’s unwashed underwear was being put up for auction on Ebay. First of all, that is one of the nastiest things I’ve ever heard of. MJ is a pedophile and he got away w that just like OJ got away w murder. This is the pervasive acceptable behavior of our society now.

      Call us baby boomers any names you want to but we are the sane voices in our society along w a few younger intelligent ones.

      • Gal from Tex

        I hear you. My neighbors, two middle aged religous professionals who I would have pegged as conservatives just put an Obama sign up in their front yard. I just don’t get it. The appeal that is. When I hear friends and family support Barry it boggles my mind. I’m sure they say the same about my choice. But what struck me (as far as family) is the rabid hatred they all have for Sarah Palin. I see a wonderful example for my two daughters to follow. They see her as a woman who needs to stay home and raise her babies. A right wing nut who will take us back to the dark ages. Sarah Palin IMO is exactly what we need to drop that “us and them” division with regards to gender. Wow and here I thought we’ve come so far. Not as far as we’d like, I’d wager.

    • El

      “…if they feel they didn’t do enough bombing – why don’t they go out right now and bomb some more?”

      In 2001 Ayers said, “I don’t want to discount the possibility”.

      So there you have it. He is not only unrepentant, nothing indicates that he is not a present or future terrorist.

  • karen for Clinton (sigh, McPalin now)

    Ayers is a “respected educator” my ass. I remember him very, very well and he was a national nightmare, the worst domestic terrorist evah! He also destroyed the real peace movement and gave Nixon lots of fuel.

    Think again obots about your apologist cult:

    Ayers and Dohrn were FOUNDING MEMBERS of the Weathermen, a violent terrorist group who escaped prosection because of surveilance tactics, not because they were innocent of wrongdoing. They terrorized government agencies for years threatening to bomb them and succeeded in doing so.

    10/7/69 Bombing of Haymarket Police Statue in Chicago, as “kickoff” for “Days of Rage” riots

    10/8/69 “Days of Rage” riots in Chicago – 287 Weatherman were arrested and a large amount of property damage done

    10/6/69 Bombing of Chicago Police cars. The WUO stated in their book “Prairie Fire” that they did the explosion

    12/27/69 Weathermen hold “War Council” finalizing plans to submerge into an underground status from which they plan to commit strategic acts of sabotage against the government. Thereafter they are called the “Weather Underground Organization” WUO. Dohrn raised three fingers in a “fork salute” to CHARLES MANSON, whom she proposed as a revolutionary inspiration. She went on to joke about Manson’s victims. “Dig it,” said Dohrn at the time. “First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, they even shoved a fork into a victim’s stomach! Wild!”

    1969 Ayers attempted to extort money from the Vietnam Moratorium Committee, demanding $20,000 to abstain from violence during a planned peace protest. After rejecting this demand, a member of the group asked Ayers what he really wanted. “To kill all rich people,” Ayers responded. When another peace activist pointed out that Ayers came from wealth, he answered with an angry slogan: “Bring the war home. Kill your parents.”

    2/13/70 Bombing of Berkeley CA police vehicles

    2/16/70 Bombing of San Francisco Police Department, killing one officer and injuring a number of other policemen

    3/6/70 Bombing Detroit PD. 34 sticks of dynamite are discovered. During Feb and early March, 1970, members of the WUO, led by Bill Ayers, are in Detroit, during that period, for the purpose of bombing a police facility

    3/6/70 “bomb factory” located in Greenwich Village explodes. WUO members die. The bomb was intended to be planted at a non-commissioned officer’s dance at Fort Dix, NJ that night. The bomb was packed with nails TO INFILICT MAXIMUM CASUALTIES UPON DETONATION

    3/30/70 Chicago Police discover WUO “bomb factory” on Chicago’s north side. Subsequent discovery of WUO “weapons cache” in south side Chicago apartment several days later ends WUO activity in the city

    5/10/70 Bombing of The National Guard Association building in Washington, D.C.

    5/21/70 WUO under Bernardine Dohrn’s name releases its “Declaration of a State of War” communique

    6/6/70 WUO sends letter claiming credit for bombing of San Francisco Hall of Justice. No explosion actually took place. Months later, workmen in this building located an unexploded device which had been dormant for some time

    6/9/70 Bombing of New York City Police Headquarters

    7/27/70 Bombing of The Presidio army base in San Francisco

    9/12/70 WUO helps Timothy Leary break out and escape from the CA Men’s Colony prison

    10/8/70 Bombing of Marin County courthouse

    10/10/70 Bombing of Queens traffic-court building

    10/14/70 Bombing of The Harvard Center for International Affairs

    3/1/71 Bombing of The US Capitol

    4/71 abandoned WUO “bomb factory” discovered in San Francisco

    8/29/71 Bombing of the Office of CA Prisons

    9/17/71 Bombing of The NY Dept of Corrections in Albany, NY

    10/15/71 Bombing of William Bundy’s office in the MIT research center

    5/19/72 Bombing of The Pentagon

    5/18/73 Bombing of the 103rd Police Precinct in NY

    9/28/73 Bombing of ITT headquarters in NY and Rome, Italy

    3/6/74 Bombing of the Dept. of Health, Education and Welfare in San Francisco

    5/31/74 Bombing of The Office of the CA Attorney General

    6/17/74 Bombing of Gulf Oil Pittsburgh headquarters

    9/11/74/ Bombing of Anaconda Corporation

    1/29/75 Bombing of State Department

    6/16/75 Bombing of Banco de Ponce in NY

    9/75 Bombing of Kennecott Corporation

    10/20/81 Brinks robbery several members of the Weather Underground stole over $1 million from a Brinks armored car near Nyack, NY. The robbers murdered 2 police officers and 1 Brinks guard. Several others seriously wounded.

    1991 “Guilty as hell. Free as a bird. America is a great country,” Ayers said when interviewed by David Horowitz

    1995 Obama campaign event at Ayers/Dohrn house

    1997 Ayers and Obama serve on a U of Chicago panel organized by Michelle Obama

    1999-2002 Obama and Ayers serve together as paid directors on Woods Fund Board of Directors

    4/2/01 Obama accepts campaign contribution from Ayers and, after 9/11 never returned the money

    9/11/01 “I don’t regret setting bombs. I feel we didn’t do enough.” So, would Mr. Ayers do it all again, he is asked? “I don’t want to discount the possibility”

    4/20/02 Ayers and Obama serve on panel together called “Intellectuals in Times of Crisis” organized by Michelle O.

    • Obama is a bum

      Ayers was setting bombs off from 1969 through 1975; Obama pretends it was an event 40 years ago.

  • ford

    ********************************************

    You must read Paglia’s column in Salon today…

    it is also posted on Drudge…it is very thought provoking, and the letters are great as well.

    That chick is a fun read .

    *********************************************

    • tillthen

      Yeah, Paglia is indeed great fun.

      I have known about her since the early 90′s when she began to emerge as an out-there lesbian and former nun.

      She and Rush Limbaugh are the best of friends!

      These two met when mean spirited liberals, like Perry Logan, played a joke on them at a formal function at which both were present. They were seated next to each other, but the joke backfired, because before the nite was over they were best buddies. I heard Rush tell the story. Funny indeed.

      • tillthen

        …another anecdote about Paglia.

        When Rush was recently awarded a 500 million dollar contract, Paglia made a recorded announcement of congratulation to Rush which was played on his show.

        • tillthen

          For the folks who don’t know who Paglia is, she is left of Lennin and more fun than Groucho Marx.

      • Hope Floats

        But the pro-life position, whether or not it is based on religious orthodoxy, is more ethically highly evolved than my own tenet of unconstrained access to abortion on demand. My argument (as in my first book, “Sexual Personae,”) has always been that nature has a master plan pushing every species toward procreation and that it is our right and even obligation as rational human beings to defy nature’s fascism. Nature herself is a mass murderer, making casual, cruel experiments and condemning 10,000 to die so that one more fit will live and thrive.

        Hence I have always frankly admitted that abortion is murder, the extermination of the powerless by the powerful. Liberals for the most part have shrunk from facing the ethical consequences of their embrace of abortion, which results in the annihilation of concrete individuals and not just clumps of insensate tissue. The state in my view has no authority whatever to intervene in the biological processes of any woman’s body, which nature has implanted there before birth and hence before that woman’s entrance into society and citizenship.

        Camille Paglia is certainly capable of lively debate. I agreed very much with her closing comments:

        There is plenty of room in modern thought for a pro-life feminism — one in fact that would have far more appeal to third-world cultures where motherhood is still honored and where the Western model of the hard-driving, self-absorbed career woman is less admired.

        But the one fundamental precept that Democrats must stand for is independent thought and speech. When they become baying bloodhounds of rigid dogma, Democrats have committed political suicide.

  • Charles Lemos

    McCain has just released this ad. It starts running today:

    New McCain Ad Attacks Obama on Sexism

    • http://home.comcast.net/~vincep312 Vince P

      I love it.

      Ready to Lead? No
      Ready to Smear? Yes

    • tillthen

      They’ve been showing the new McCain video on FOX.

      MG! Barky, you are so dumb and out of touch.

    • http://www.theindependentview.com Matthew Weaver

      Fantastic!

    • http://mccaindemocrats.wordpress.com/ 30yrdem-not any more

      Palin owns the word “Lipstick” and it can not be used in a degrading way.

      Obama owns the words “Community Organizer” and they can not be used in a degrading way.

      He blew it…he got a standing ovation for saying that so the people thought he was talking about Palin.

      He said half of it to see how it would play, they went for it so he finished the line….he knew what he was doing.

      He is slick, that is how he did it to Clinton for months.

      Question..

      I saw here in comments that Obama said something about “a smelly fish wrapped in newspaper” when talking about McCain.
      Does anyone have a link for that?

  • katmandu

    Urban Legends (a website similar to Snopes) has a story up about a guy claiming Joe Biden stiffed him for $15,000, a debt going back to 1988. He did Biden’s accounting work then, and never got paid (until recently). You can see the story here.

    http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/joebiden/a/character.htm

    Now, campaigns often have large debts at the end, but honorable politicians pay them off in time. But 20 years? My wife asked — why didn’t the guy sue? If you’ve ever been in litigation, it is very difficult to come out ahead when the debt is in that range. Attorneys’ fees and court costs will eat it up really fast.

    Someone on the trail should ask Biden about this.

  • Steve1

    Well, Soetoro-Obama has his prolemas, his associations, come-on we all know the old saying, “birds of feather, flock together” Americans are not that stupid!
    What I would like to know from the Tony Rezko trial testimony. Stuart Levine’s testimony, The Purple Room. These gatherings were held over several years, drugs, all male parties-Stuart either a closet or bisexual, Bill Ayers, admits in his book, bisexual. Larry Sinclair allegations regarding Mr. Soetoro. I am just wondering why the presiding Judge in the Rezko trial, would not allow futher testimony regarding who participated in those week-end parties?? It all seems so strange, coincidence? Everything regarding Soetoro cloaked with mystery!

  • http://www.theindependentview.com Matthew Weaver

    I’ve asked before and gotten no answer, does any have or can you link to a picture of Barack and Ayers together or, better yet, a picture of Barack, Michelle, and Ayers together?

    And while asking, has anyone found transcript or video of the Obama’s tribute to Khalidi at Columbia in 2005?

    Thanks,
    Matthew

    • dixie

      Contact “Debbie Schlussel”, if anyone has it, it will probabely be her.

    • tillthen

      Ooooooooooooooh! A Khalidi video? Wouldn’t that be cool!

    • roseeriter

      http://ndn.newsweek.com/media/8/plouffe-obama-team-NA08-wide-horizontal.jpg

      Here’s a good one of O’s political team. I think that’s Ayers sitting against the table and the back of Obama’s head

    • Mandelay

      There could very well be photos (taken yearly?) of Board Members of the Annenberg Challenge or the Woods Fund. That’s a standard practice in organizations. It would show a year by year history of Obama and Ayers.

    • athy

      Mr Weaver-
      May I suggest that you post your request for photos on the following website-run by independent journalists located in Chicago. Make sure to provide a link back to this excellent article that you have posted today on No Quarter.

      Thanks for your article.

      Very well done.

      http://www.windycitizen.com/2008/07/ask-a-community-organizer-what-is-community-organizing-anyway

      Please note: According to message on website:
      Site temporarily off-line.
      “The Windy Citizen’s going to be down for the next few hours (posted 9/10/08) while we make way for some exciting improvements. Thanks for stopping by.

      Feel free to e-mail us at windycitizen at gmail.com with any urgent matters, inquiries or questions. See you soon! -The Windy Citizen”

  • http://home.comcast.net/~vincep312 Vince P

    In Human Events today ,he Islamic world’s enthusiasm for Barack Obama:

    Barack Obama caused another stir over his ties to Islam on Sunday when he noted that “John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith” in an interview with George Stephanopoulos. Stephanopoulos immediately corrected him, and Obama backtracked to say, “my Christian faith…What I’m saying is that he hasn’t suggested that I’m a Muslim.”
    A few pundits tried to make something of this, attempting to revive the “Obama is a Secret Muslim” rumors, but there really wasn’t anything more to it than a verbal stumble. Obama is not a Muslim, and there is enough to question about training, experience, ideology, core values, and judgment without endlessly parsing the slip of the tongue of a tired man.

    It is noteworthy, however, that just as this tongue-slip was making the rounds, Menashe Amir of Radio Israel’s Persian language service noted that “one of the Iranian religious leaders said if Obama will enter the White House, then Islam will conquer the heart of the American nation.” Amir, who was born in Iran, said the Iranian mullahs favor Obama “mainly because he is a Muslim.”

    This recalled the words last June of Libyan strongman Muammar Qaddhafi, who characterized Obama as “a black citizen of Kenyan African origins, a Muslim, who had studied in an Islamic school in Indonesia.” Gaddhafi declared that “all the people in the Arab and Islamic world and in Africa applauded this man. They welcomed him and prayed for him and for his success, and they may have even been involved in legitimate contribution campaigns to enable him to win the American presidency.” He called on Obama -- whom he referred to as “this black man” – to “take pride in his African and Islamic identity, and in his faith,” and “change America from evil to good” so that America would “establish relations that will serve it well with other peoples, especially the Arabs.”
    Qaddhafi is famously loony, but there is no doubt that the Obama campaign has generated enormous enthusiasm in the Islamic world. Some of it is probably generated for propaganda value, and some is quite real.

    Egyptian journalist Yasser Khalil declared recently that “Barack Obama represents a phenomenon that has drawn global attention and captivated the minds of Muslims around the world.” Writing from Cairo, he said that “in spite of the campaign’s heated debate and some controversial rhetoric regarding Islam, large segments of the Muslim population here remain fascinated with the election and have become big fans of Senator Obama.” He explained this fascination as a manifestation of Muslim “hope in the political approach of Obama and his advisers. His apparent eagerness to rally more international support for US policy, and even talk to America’s ‘enemies,’ is cause for optimism. Imagine what global politics might look like in Iraq, or Sudan, or Afghanistan, if Obama-like vision had influenced US leadership earlier.”

    We can imagine that all too easily — and that’s the problem. The Iranian mullahs and Qaddhafi, among others in the Islamic world, are hoping that Obama will talk to our enemies the way Europe — still suffering the horrors of World War I’s aftermath — hoped that Neville Chamberlain would fly to Munich to talk to Adolf Hitler in 1938. And Obama, naïve and supremely self-confident, will be all too eager to oblige.

    Since Obama would be talking to our enemies from the standpoint of the common liberal “blame America first” assumptions, he is likely to come away from such talks with results similar to those obtained by Neville Chamberlain. He will obtain Peace In Our Time, yes: but that time will last only until the next attack against Americans or our allies. Like Chamberlain’s, it will be a supremely fragile, evanescent peace that will render us weaker — both militarily and in terms of national will. And when it is reached, in the face of the global jihad threat, it will have made it easier for Islam to “conquer the heart of the American nation,” and nothing will be done seriously to impede its global advance.

    The millions who suffer under the oppression of the Iranian mullahcracy deserve better — as do our allies in Israel and everywhere that free people are threatened by the jihad and Islamic supremacism. Barack Obama is not a Muslim. But the enthusiasm he has inspired among those who would like to see America brought to her knees indicates that they, at least, know exactly what he really is.

    • Perry Logan

      False assumption. Neither Obama nor his advisors are liberals.

      • roseeriter

        Which makes one wonder why all the nutty leftwinger progressive obamacrats are supporting the O-Hole? Anarchists need a home and leader, I guess.

        Wake up Americans.
        Country First!

      • tillthen

        False assumption. Neither Obama nor his advisors are liberals.

        Neocons?

        • lastlemming

          Neoliberals

      • Obama is a bum

        Obama is a radical but he knows he can’t get elected as a radical. Everything Obama has been doing in this campaign is an effort to pander for votes — that is why he is always tripping over himself.

      • deke

        Perry you are correct, Obama is a Stalinist. I person who wants you to follow him but don’t ask any questions. He is a typical politician who has the attitude the he knows best but don’t question his decisions.

    • dixie

      I don’t care whether Obama is a Muslim or not and I don’t think any of those people deserve better than what they are trying to dish out. So far as I am concerned they can all pack their pockets with plasctic explosives, invite Obama to their party, and have themselves a blast.

    • http://home.comcast.net/~vincep312 Vince P

      An important thing to keep in mind is the Islamic way of thinking and how the various things that we do are interpreted by them.

      It’s not discussed very often in the West, but the Islamic is currently being swept by with a very powerful Messianic eschatological anticipation.

      Muslims both Shiia and Sunni view the current on-going Islamic Revival as being the promised movement that will cause Islam to sweep around the world and bring all mankind under Allah’s law and eliminate man made law and all other religion.

      The Shiia (especially the Twelver sect) are waiting for a leader , the Imam al Mahdi, who wil be the head of the global Jihad.

      The Sunni believe in a process inspired by Allah taking the form of traditional warfare in addition to population colonization and Islamization (as is happening in Europe)

      Both sides are eager to see the downfall of the US, as we are the only credible force in the world that could stop their plans

      So things like Barry being seen as Muslim if he isn’t, can create certain problems for us.. like more self-assured religious fanatics.

      • dixie

        Vince P
        I don’t know which would be the worse of the two, Islamic radicals or Christian radicals. Both can be vicious and inhumane. The Crusades pitted them against each other at one time and now maybe it will happen again. Seems GW may have tried to get the ball rolling on that too but got hung up and confused (as usual). The difference this time is bombs, big bombs instead of lances and spears and crossbows.

        • Obama is a bum

          I’ll take my chances with the Christians, I would never want to live in a Muslim country.

        • nobamaever09

          It is not about Christian radicalls, it is about all AMERICANS, so, dont start with something like in USA we all are fanatics and Christians…..

    • Obama is a bum

      I heard a Muslim on the radio a few weeks ago say that the reason Muslims have moved to the US is not because they like it but they want to change it.

      • nobamaever09

        So now they will have their own President”OBAMA”

  • ObamaNOT

    And where is the connects of oprah windbag to ayers and OBOMBA? Could it be Ayers attended God Damn Amrica church a few times?

    Ayers views and rev wrights views are no different…..

    One has bombed, the other only enflames whitey hatred…

    It would be interesting to see if Ayers ever attended rev wrights church, or served with him on some committee….

    Find it guys and gals…..Obomba sucks….

  • roseeriter

    How come Homeland Security People not alarmed about Obama Ayers connection? People with less threats in their background have been carted off by rendition tactics? Apparently homegrown terrorists, even of the past like Tim McVeigh and the una bomber, are now just folk lore?

    Obama’s connections to shady characters around the world should be of great concern. Maybe this is why Nancy Pelosi never put impeachment on the table.

    I smell cover up shit all over congress/obamacrats.

    • tek

      Nancy Pelosi took impeachment off the table because the Obama Dems wanted to let Dubya destroy the country totally so voters would turn to Democrats and the evil axis behind Obama could abandon democracy and foist Obama on us.

      • roseeriter

        Geez- um that kind of backfired didn’t it?

        Pelosi needs to be ousted out as speaker. She seems to be playing both sides of the fence-covering Bush’s ass and Obama’s and NOT listening to the people.

        • http://www.theindependentview.com Matthew Weaver

          Yes, she has proved to be a big disappointment. Who might take her place? Hoyer?

          • Hope Floats

            God, please no.

    • Obama is a bum

      If Obama gets elected he plans on naming Ayers in charge of Homeland Security — then we are all screwed.

    • csuzeq

      I wonder about that, too!

  • Kate

    Not Palin 08/Hillary 2012

    • Pink Panther

      1. 2005 BUSH/CHENEY ENERGY BILL: Obama voted for the 2005 Cheney-Bush Energy Bill which put billions of taxpayer dollars in the oil and energy companies’ pockets. Obama’s common interest is with Cheney, Bush and the oil and energy companies

      HILLARY AND MCCAIN DID NOT VOTE FOR THE BILL. OBAMA VOTED WITH BUSH & CHENEY.

      2. UNDIVIDED JERUSALEM AS ISRAEL’S CAPITAL: In a speech before AIPAC Obama said, “Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided.” Soon after Obama said that he “tried to correct the interpretation” of that statement. He switched his position saying that “it’s going to be up to the parties to negotiate a range of these issues and Jerusalem will be part of those negotiations.”

      HILLARY AND MCCAIN/PALIN SUPPORT AN UNDIVIDED JERUSALEM. OBAMA HAS FLIP-FLOPPED.

      3. PUBLIC FINANCING: Barack Obama answered a Midwest Democracy Network questionnaire in September 2007 saying that, “If I am the Democratic nominee, I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election.” Obama ended up following the money and opted out of public financing for the general election.

      HILLARY AND MCCAIN/PALIN SUPPORT PUBLIC FINANCING. OBAMA FLIP-FLOPPED AND IS NOW AGAINST PUBLIC FINANCING.

      4. IRANIAN REVOLUTIONARY GUARD: Obama’s campaign has said more recently that the Senator “has consistently urged that Iran’s Revolutionary Guard be labeled what it is: a terrorist organization.” But before this Obama spent months campaigning on his opposition to and his vote against the Kyl-Lieberman Amendment which did just that. (HILLARY SIGNED THE KYL-LIEBERMAN AMENDMENT.)

      HILLARY AND MCCAIN SUPPORTED LABELING THE GUARD AS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION. OBAMA VOTED AGAINST THE BILL WHICH LABEL THE IRANIAN REVOLUTIONARY GUARD A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION.

      5. TERRI SCHIAVO: In March 2005, just weeks before Terri Schiavo died from a painful 14-day starvation and dehydration death, the Republican Congress approved legislation transferring the case from state courts to federal courts, delaying her death. When her brain was later autopsied, there was almost NO brain tissue left.

      “An exhaustive autopsy found that Terri Schiavo’s brain had withered to half the normal size since her collapse in 1990 and that no treatment could have remotely improved her condition” http://www.nytimes. com/2005/ 06/16/national/ 16schiavo.

      But Obama voted along with the Republican Congress, along with pro-life Democrats, to have a court intervene rather than have her husband make a decision regarding her life.

      During an April 2007 debate Obama said: “I think professionally the biggest mistake that I made was when I first arrived in the Senate. There was a debate about Terri Schiavo, and a lot of us, including me, left the Senate with a bill that allowed Congress to intrude where it shouldn’t have.”
      During a February 2008 debate Obama was asked name a regret and he said he would like to take back his vote authorizing Congress to intervene to save the life of the brain-injured Florida woman Terri Schiavo.

      HILLARY AND MCCAIN VOTED AGAINST THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESS IN MARCH 2005, WHILE OBAMA SUPPORTED THEM.

      BASED ON THE RECORD-

      OBAMA IS MORE OF BUSH

      OBAMA = BUSH 3

    • roseeriter

      Geez katebot..what is a bit bull?
      Obama is crap just like Bush.

      McCain/Palin!

      • HARP

        A bit bull ?…..It`s a lot of bull…lol

    • ohio

      Kate, do what you want, but this family is voting McCain/Palin 08. Get use to it!

  • Kate

    Bit bulls are vicious animals.

    McCain = McSame

    Palin = Worse than Bush (thinks war is God’s will, about as dumb, and also won’t talk to the press)

    Obama 08/Hillary 2012

    • Get Your Facts Correct

      FactCheck.org, the Annenberg Political Fact Check site investigated many of the claims being made by Obama and his minions and found them FALSE.

      http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html

      • http://mccaindemocrats.wordpress.com/ 30yrdem-not any more

        Fact Check. org is owned by and run by none other than The Annenberg Challenge….

        • Garfield

          Didn’t Bill Ayers help create Annenberg Challenge?

          Bill Ayers is friends with Obama.

          Annenberg Fact Check is saying the rumors on Palin are FALSE.

      • csuzeq

        I did not see where they said all the Ayers, Rezko, Khalidi, Auchi, Monsour, et al rumors are false. Please direct me to the page on that!

    • Perry Logan

      I don’t understand the Obama folks who come to NO QUARTER and insult us.

      The Obama people clearly and repeatedly asked us to leave the party. They called us racists and said they could win without us—remember?

      OK. So we’ve left the party…

      And now the Obama people are BACK—coming around here every day, criticizing us for leaving the party.

      What’s the deal? Have they changed their minds? Or do they just like badmouthing people?

      • csuzeq

        I guess they are flip floppers!

        That’s ok. I’m a flip flopper, too. I am a democrat, but I am voting republican this year!

    • dixie

      Bit bulls? LOL!

    • Judy L. NC

      Hey, y’all! The Kate is back!

    • tek

      Snakes in the grass (Obama) are worse than pitt bulls (not bit bulls), you don’t see them coming.

    • katmandu

      And all Obama had to do to win was pick a strong woman as a VP candidate, to assuage the disappointed Clinton supporters — and he could not find one in the entire United States?

      Not one qualified woman in the U.S.?

      Of course, there are hundreds, right within his own party, as well as left leaning female corporate executives.

      But Obama is afraid of strong women.

    • Christy

      Kate the animal hater. Probably supports Micheal Vick. Those animals he tortured, they were just vicious animals, right?

      • Perry Logan

        Kate is also wrong about pit bulls. (Who would have thought an Obama supporter would get her facts wrong!)

        Pit bulls are aggressive against other canines. But they are among the most gentle and affectionate of dogs.

        • hank48188

          On TV they showed some of Mike Vick’s Pit Bulls, I guess they have been rehabbed, they showed one dog in a therapy role at a hospital. Start treating those dogs right and they start acting right.

    • Obama is a bum

      Obama = deranged

  • proverb

    Proverbs 10:13

    In the lips of him that hath understanding wisdom is found: but a rod is for the back of him that is void of understanding.

    Your degree of folly or wisdom is known by your speech. A man with understanding has wise speech that helps others; a man without understanding uses empty and foolish words that benefit no one. You cannot hide your character for long. You cannot deceive others forever. You will be exposed (26:26; Eccl 5:3; 10:3). And if your speech indicates you are a fool, the best treatment for you in the wisdom of God is a good beating (18:6; 26:3).

    Notice the proverb closely. The first clause identifies a man with understanding as one who speaks wisely. The second clause gives the instruction to beat the man who does not have understanding. The parallelism of the proverb teaches two principal lessons: (1) your speech proves whether you have understanding or not, and (2) corporal punishment is appropriate for those who speak foolishly and forwardly. The ellipsis – missing words – at the end of the second clause, “and speaks foolishly,” is understood by the first clause.

    God and Solomon gave you precious wisdom. Here is advice for life on how to measure the hearts of men and also how to treat them. Good men with wise hearts convey knowledge, godly counsel, and sound wisdom; and they do it in a gracious and loving way. Fools with profane hearts babble about their opinions and little problems in life; they complain about most everything; and they do it in an odious and irritating manner.

    What precious wisdom! Wicked persons love to say, “You do not know my heart. I am a good person. I have understanding.” But these are lying excuses to justify their ungodly speech and/or actions. One of the chief lessons of Proverbs is to identify character by speech (10:19,21,32; 12:13; 14:3,7; 15:7; 16:2; 17:7,27-28; 18:7; Eccl 10:12). The Lord Jesus Christ also emphasized this definite connection (Matt 12:33-37).

    Reader! Does your speech prove you a fool or a wise man? It is easy to tell. Can you justify your speech from the Bible? Do you have more friends than you can manage? Do others hold you in high esteem? Do others often seek your advice? If you can answer all four questions positively, you are a wise man. If any of the questions get a negative answer, you are a fool! Confess your folly to God. Beg Him for help to control your lips.

    Reader! Do others consider you gracious or odious, kind or cutting, helpful or hurtful, cheerful or critical, sober or sarcastic, loving or laughing, judicious or jesting? Honest answers to these contrasts reveal your character. Humble yourself before God. Cut your words in half. Cut your volume in half. Do not speak without something important to say. Study before you speak. Be gracious and positive, always! Praise someone, now!

    Your degree of worldliness or spirituality is also known by your speech. It is easy to be an enemy of Jesus Christ – all you have to do is care about the things of this world (Matt 6:24; Phil 3:18-19; Jas 4:4; I John 2:15-17). How can you spot an enemy of Jesus Christ? Listen. They talk about jobs or business, health, politics, or current events. Though you listen carefully, you never hear Christ praised, doctrine exalted, or fervent thanksgiving.

    Furthermore, your degree of love or hatred for others is revealed by your words. If you love other saints, which is the greatest evidence of eternal life, you will always be saying good things to them, for them, and about them. The person who is often guilty of backbiting, complaining, slandering, talebearing, or whispering is not only a fool, but also a child of the devil (John 8:44; I Cor 3:3; Titus 3:3; Jas 3:14-18; I John 3:1-19).

    Corporal punishment is the best treatment of a person with a foolish tongue (26:3). If that person is your child, then you can train him in the way he should go with the rod and reproof (22:6; 29:15). If it is a prospective spouse, end the relationship! If it is a friend, you can easily find new and better friends (9:6; 13:20; 14:7). Choose wise men with wise speech for your companions, for they will make you better (22:11; Ps 119:63).

    • dixie

      Proverbs 22:6 “Train up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not depart from it.”

      The flip side of that is –train up a child in the way he should NOT go and he will go that way too. Obama had some great trainers–like Frank Marshal Davis, a sexual pervert and a communist. From all indications Obama’s mom was no Sister Teresa either.

      • roseeriter

        Ayers is a bisexual also and in his book bragged about screwing his comrads male and female. The rumors surrounding Obama about his sexual preferences (Bi-Sexual) makes his friendship with Ayers extra ‘special’ too.

        • dixie

          Good god! Freakish must be a qualification in order to live in the Hyde Park hood. I wouldn’t want my dog playing with my neighbor if I had to live in that dump. Not a proverb, but–you know what they say–birds of a feather——–

        • E. Stoddard

          There was another lie, last night on O’Reilly, that no one seemed to catch. Obama said he didn’t hear Rev. Wright say those things in church. But he had already said he did, much earlier. He cannot have it both ways.

          • roseeriter

            Hi Eugenia, I heard it also. Obama is getting all flustered. That cocaine, like alcohol, really messes with an addict’s memories.

          • HARP

            Right you are. Ina 2004 interview he said this:

            GG:
            Do you still attend Trinity?

            OBAMA:
            Yep. Every week. 11 oclock service.

            AND THIS:

            GG:
            Do you have people in your life that you look to for guidance?

            OBAMA:
            Well, my pastor is certainly someone who I have an enormous amount of respect for.
            I have a number of friends who are ministers. Reverend Meeks is a close friend and colleague of mine in the state Senate. Father Michael Pfleger is a dear friend, and somebody I interact with closely

            http://falsani.blogspot.com/2008/04/barack-obama-2004-god-factor-interview.html

            • Obama is a bum

              In the interview with O’Reilly Obama said he went to church twice per month. Obama must think everyone is an idiot. Is there anyone who thinks Obama is not a compulsive liar? They should stick a lie detector on Obama for every interview — he would probably break the machine.

    • Christy

      What was Proverb’s point? What?? Some sort of bizarre rant.

    • bemused

      Except for the corporal punishment part, I can agree with you. But I see this as a long justification for beating kids. No, no. First you have made the case that words matter, words should be helpful. Words can indeed hurt more than any stick and be effective in change without resorting to barbarism. Though words are like feathers on the wind, that can never be completely recollected, they can be diffused and transformed. But I’ve seen people beaten until they can’t recover. They could have rationalized cruel words, but not scar tissue. You obviously know your Bible well. How about getting out of the Old Testament?

  • Perry Logan

    Tch tch tch. We’re not turning away from our friends, are we, Barack? ;-)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyrMS6MBuSg

  • http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/ Not Your sweetie
  • they shoe horses don’t they

    Matthew, I apoligise that this is a comment to a recent thread(lipstick on a pig) not this one. My comment didn’t post. It was in answer to your question. here it is:
    Matthew, the dead fish old fish thing has long been equated with pussy. I first heard it in the form of an Ole and Lena joke. It has long been a classic…Mimi is absolutely right. The ironic thing about it is that the male sperm is what smells like fish, not the pussy. That is what makes me laugh. What a great reason for unmarried women to request a condom.

  • wodiej

    Just seeing this evil person standing on top of a crumpled American flag and to think Obama has been associated w him for 20 years, just like the nasty Rev. Wright…well as an American who loves this country, all I can say is Obama, you have alot of nerve thinking you can pull a fast one on the American people. See our guns and religion does not mean we are stupid anymore than you and your crowd liking lattes and going to college makes you smart. You disgust me.

  • El

    I thank you as well, Matthew, for your excellent work.

    I think Frank Marshall Davis may have played a part in making certain Chicago introductions & connections.

  • braininahat

    Thank you for your work, Matthew.

    When the smoke clears, I think Obama will be lucky not to find himself in jail.

    To think that he could become the president of The United States is scary. How deranged and desperate are those who either disregard the man’s record or his (lack of) character.

    • Denise

      So Obama was going to be the agent of change but yet he makes a sexist remark with lipstick and then compares it to a statement that McCain made about a heath care bill but never mentions that he himself has also used the remark regarding the Iraq war.

      However yesterday it was not used to decribe policy or issues it was used as a personal attack.

      Obama, change you can believe in or just more of the same?