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While We Are Distracted…

By the BP oil spill crisis, and it is certainly worthy of our attention, don’t think things have stopped going on in Washington, DC.

Actually, come to think of it, there is a connection between the BP oil crisis and one major issue in DC, the Obamacare program. That connection is – wait for it – labor unions.

Yep, Obama still refuses to waive the Jones Act, which would allow foreign ships and oil skimmers to come in so as not to upset the labor unions. The oil continues to gush from the earth’s surface, harming our marine life, our ocean, and too many people’s livelihoods at a time when jobs are already hard enough to come by (newest unemployment data for today skyrocketed to 472,000 jobless claims this week).

Add to that the moratorium Obama put on deepwater drilling, despite Salazar’s advisers advising against the moratorium, and many more people will be struggling before too long, especially in the Gulf. Like they need any more hardship. Obama even admitted as much, yet he is determined to go forward with his plan, halting any more drilling.

But how are the unions related to Obamacare promises that our health care, if we have it, will remain unchanged? Well, as it turns out – SURPRISE – most of us WILL have our current health care changed by Obamacare. Which group will not? You know the answer, labor unions:



That’s right, unions will be grandfathered in as this article highlights, “New Rules Could Make 66 Percent Of Employer Plans Lose ‘Grandfathered’ Status.” Gee, none of us who were following this massive takeover saw that coming, did we? Oh, right – we DID, and were told we were just haters for it. Well, we’re hating now:

New rules from the Obama administration that regulate health care plans that existed before the reform bill was passed highlight the difficulty the administration faces in both reforming the system and allowing people to keep the plans they like.

Under new regulations issued Monday, anywhere from 39 percent to 66 percent of employer plans will lose their “grandfathered status” by 2013, according to estimates included with the rules.

For plans that do not fall under the grandfathered status, employers would have to find a plan that complies with the health care bill passed March 23. Whether or not costs for the new plans will be less than grandfathered plans has yet to be seen.

Small businesses would be harder hit than large employers, losing grandfathered status for as few as 49 percent and as many as 80 percent of plans. Employers may keep their plan if it does not raise its prices beyond “reasonable changes” and if it does not cut substantially cut benefits for a particular condition.

Oh, there’s a big surprise. Small businesses, the backbone of our economy, are going to be taking the biggest hit here. Golly, too bad no one said anything about this before. That’s snark, just in case you missed it. Hell to the yes we were saying it. Again, we were roundly discounted. How many times do I have to say this? We were RIGHT:

Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius reiterated a saying that President Obama said many times during the health care debate: “If you like the plan you have, you can keep it,” Sebelius said at a press conference Tuesday.

But experts say the new regulations reflect the limits to which that promise can be kept.

“Given the direction that President Obama wanted to go with health care, his promise that people could keep their existing plans was always a dicey one,” said Tevi Troy, former HHS deputy secretary under President Bush and visiting senior fellow at the Hudson Institute.

The administration said that it would “take into account reasonable changes” that insurers routinely make in response to changes in cost and availability but would not outline details about what “reasonable changes” might be.

The regulations stipulate that insurers may make changes to their plans, but only to increase benefits or adapt to consumer protections outlined in the health care bill.

“They give all Americans with health insurance some important protections this year and create a path to the consumer-friendly health insurance marketplace of the future,” Sebelius said.

The new rules mandate that new individuals may not be added to grandfathered health plans after a business merger or restructuring so that grandfather status is not traded as a commodity. Thus companies will likely have employees with two different types of health care coverage, if the companies stay with their current plan.

Troy anticipates that insurance companies will try to freeze their plans to retain their grandfathered status for as long as possible.

“Freezing is not sustainable,” Troy told the Daily Caller. “The majority of plans will lose their grandfathered status in relatively short order, which I suspect was the unstated intent of both the legislators and the regulators.”

Here’s the bottom line. MANY of us knew this was going to happen. Many of us knew this was a hugely flawed bill from the get-go, not the least because the vast majority of the people voting on it hadn’t read the damn thing. With its jumping off point being big giveaways to Big Pharma, it could only go downhill from there, and did.

At what point do the people who buy every single word coming out of Obama’s mouth finally accept that they are being had? How many times must we say, “We told you so” before they will remove their blinders, their rose-colored glasses, or whatever it is that is keeping them from seeing the truth of who this man is? Despite his strong words, he is selling out the Gulf to the unions. Despite his claims to the contrary, those of us not in unions are likely to be screwed when it comes to health care, while the only ones NOT feeling the pain will be the unions.

Obama is not working in OUR best interest, but in the UNION’S best interest. As I have said before, they are sure getting their money’s worth with him. And what are we getting? Oh, you know that, too – the shaft.

  • sowsear

    Just yesterday one of the Dem politicians said that BP’s $20B was needed for health care, can’t remember who, but an Obama sycophant.

  • sowsear
  • Peggy Sue

    It was Stupak, sowsear. Though I don’t agree with picking up healthcare costs in general, I do think BP should be held accountable for healthcare costs “directly” related to the spill and use of toxic dispersants.  The Exxon spill resulted in a lot of health problems, both short-term and long term disabilities for residents and cleanup crews.  Those people should have redress.

  • Breeze

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    BP Oil Spill: Against Gov. Jindal’s Wishes,
    Crude-Sucking Barges Stopped by Coast Guard

    ABC News,
     by David Muir
     & Bradley Blackburn

    Original Article Eight days ago, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal ordered barges to begin vacuuming crude oil out of his state’s oil-soaked waters. Today, against the governor’s wishes, those barges sat idle, even as more oil flowed toward the Louisiana shore. “It’s the most frustrating thing,” the Republican governor said today in Buras, La. “Literally, yesterday morning we found out that they were halting all of these barges.” Sixteen barges sat stationary today, although they were sucking up thousands of gallons of BP’s oil as recently as Tuesday. Workers in hazmat suits and gas masks pumped the oil out of

  • Breeze

    -
    BP Oil Spill: Against Gov. Jindal’s Wishes,  
    Crude-Sucking Barges Stopped by Coast Guard
      
     
    ABC News,  
     by David Muir  
     & Bradley Blackburn  
     
    Original Article

    Eight days ago, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal ordered barges to begin vacuuming crude oil out of his state’s oil-soaked waters. Today, against the governor’s wishes, those barges sat idle, even as more oil flowed toward the Louisiana shore. “It’s the most frustrating thing,” the Republican governor said today in Buras, La. “Literally, yesterday morning we found out that they were halting all of these barges.” Sixteen barges sat stationary today, although they were sucking up thousands of gallons of BP’s oil as recently as Tuesday. Workers in hazmat suits and gas masks pumped the oil out of….

  • AbigailAdams

    Someone here put up a Beck clip from 6/17.  The crux of that show was how barry was turning an oil spill into the “Moral Equivalent of War”.  And if you followed barry’s speech from the oval (as Beck pointed out, historically reserved for presidential speeches of the highest order, usually pertaining to wars, national secruity crises, and the like), his word choice made the gusher the moral equivalent of war.  Beck’s hypothesis is that by making this crisis a M.E.W., barry is using it as a means to pass his thrice failed attempt at crap-n-trade.  It goes back to not wasting a good crisis, man-made, natural or made up.  Put a moratorium on U.S. oil drilling, send thousands or hundreds of thousands to the back of the unemployment line, send $2B to Brazille to Petrobras’ new Soros-backed oil drilling venture along with all the idle U.S. oil platforms and voila! you’ve got yourself a citizenry who will agree to just about anything in order to “Just do something!”  He points out that that’s how we ended up with The Patriot Act and it’s subsequent versions; taking us further from the shores of constitutionally-run gov’t.  Shultz on CNN (MSLSD?) was begging barry to stand on the neck of BP and act like a dictator if that’s what it takes.  He was begging him to act like a dictator.   

  • sowsear

    The problem is keeping the health care costs directly related to the oil spill. There will be too many hands in the pot.

  • Cindy

    R

    ev. Amy—-you out it so well—-”what are we getting?? the Shaft”

  • sowsear
  • Cindy

    That ahould be Rev Amy “you PUT it so well”
    Hope y’all enjoy our new national anthem!!—”Shaft”

  • Cindy

    Rev. Amy—You put it so welll-We’re getting the Shaft!
    here’s our new

    National Anthem……….

  • kenoshamarge

    RRRA you ask, “At what point do the people who buy every single word coming out of Obama’s mouth finally accept that they are being had?”

    I suspect many/most Obamacrats will never stop believing. If they do, then they have to admit they were “had”. Who wants to do that?

    Even those who are no longer true-believers still “like” the phony. I can’t understand that either. It’s like saying, “okay I know he’s a lying, incompetend, finger pointing, blame-gaming, phony but I like him.

    What the hell is there to like?

  • kenoshamarge

    Oh and here’s my favorite bumper sticker for today…

  • Noogan

    Oh, and by the way, the Obama Department of Injustice is arguing before the court that the Obamacare mandate IS A TAX! 

    Therefore, Obama has raised taxes on every single citizen of the US. 

    “Our president is a liar.” ~ tea party activist pointing out the truth

  • oowawa

    According to the report I heard on CNN last night, the barges were ordered to dock to be inspected, then were released 24 hours later without ever having been inspected.  They were to have been inspected by the USCG for safety regulations (life jackets, etc).  USCG Admiral Thad Allen was very testy when CNN questioned about it.

  • Peggy Sue

    I agree that abuses of the system will very likely happen.  But that doesn’t mean you cancel out the help because of the weasels. 

    When I lived in Philly, every train accident had people running to the accident site claiming they were hurt, making bogus medical claims.  It was ludicrous.  I’m sure some false claims made it through but the vast majority were weeded out. There are always too many hands in the pot when this sort of thing happens.  But I think the Administration made a good choice in Ken Fienberg for this initial round of fund distribution.  He had a very good record in administering the 9/11 relief funds.  Will it be perfect?  Probably not.  But I think Fienberg will try his best.

    I happen to believe there are still honest brokers in the world, even though the wolves have multiplied.  As for the cheats?  Unfortunately, they’re part of the human mix.  

  • helenk

    OY but important

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/17/afghan-military-deserters-missing-air-force-base/

    a BOLO was issued for 17 afghan trained pilots who went missing in the USA.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE CHATTERING PEOPLE RULE

  • No Longer an American

    I think we need a new American Revolution. The States that were the USA need to Seceed from the Nation of Obamastahn

  • surfered

    In an interview last week, Coast Guard Admiral That Allen said foreign skimming equipment is being accepted.  He stated further that no waiver requests had been presented to him; however, he announced streamlined handling for requests.  “Should any waivers be needed, we are prepared to process them as quickly as possible.”

    And as for the unions, I couldn’t agree more.  Exept for an eight hour workday, a five-day work week, paid sick days, vacation days and holidays, family and medical leave, health, life, and disability insurance, a pension, safe working conditions, an end to child labor, and being primarily responsible for establishing the middle class, what did the unions ever do for us?

  • FLDemFem

    It would be cheaper and less bloody to just impeach the little incompetent fart and send him back to Chicago with no pension, no perks, and with charges pending in Federal Court.

    And just wondering if anyone else saw the pics of Obummer at the Resolute desk and thought that he needed a booster seat?? That was the first thought that popped into my mind, he looks like a little boy in need of a booster seat.

  • Peggy Sue

    So, you’re calling for armed insurrection, civil war?  Thank you but no thank you.  I’ll stick to impeachment and booting the Obamacrats out through the election processes before I pick up my guns.

  • oowawa

    “I suspect many/most Obamacrats will never stop believing. If they do, then they have to admit they were “had”. Who wants to do that?”

    Yes, kenoshamarge.  To the extent that belief in Obama is a religious (rather than a political) phenomenon, this admission is much more of an existential issue than simply admitting to having been deceived by a political bamboozler.  The denial of Obama, for some, reaches down into the soul.

    The metaphor of “drinking the Kool-Aid” has been used as an analogy for uncritically accepting the political wisdom and power of Obama.  But in Jonestown, the original Kool-Aid drinkers were choosing to commit suicide rather than having to admit that their belief in their savior was mistaken.  “Drinking the Kool-Aid” was not only the acceptance of belief, a sacrament, but the public proof that this belief was even more important than life itself.    Most people can ultimately face the fact that they’ve been “had” by a politician or a con-artist.  When it’s a matter of true religion, being betrayed by a Messiah is much more difficult to acknowledge.

  • oowawa

    Let me be the first to raise the battle cry that we are sure to hear: “AUDIT THE BP GULF VICTIMS’ SLUSH FUND!”

  • ~~JustMe~~

    I can feel an Acorn eye on that big pot!

  • Peggy Sue

    Excellent comment, oowawa.  And sadly, all too true.  There is a definite falling away of support on the liberal blogs, real disappointment in Obama’s shortcomings and failures.  But there is a core element for whom any criticism of the POTUS is still blasphemy.  They are the truly lost because they reliquished their critical-thinking skills quite some time ago.  Cult-devotion is dangerous, sometimes fatal.

  • No Longer an American

    No, I’m just saying seceed leagally so that each state does not have to follow the laws of Obamastahn. 

  • GORDO

    “My name is Barry Soetoro and I was born in Nyang’oma Kogelo AKA Kenya, so says Indonesia Matters!”

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/06/my-name-is-barry-soetoro-and-i-was-born.html
    ==========================
    “Barry Soetoro” – Nov 6th, 2008

    http://www.indonesiamatters.com/2952/barry-soetoro/

  • oowawa

    I think we had this conversation in the late 60′s:

  • Cindy

    oowawa—-that is an excellent point!
    And regarding being betrayed by their Messiah, I believe another dynamic is that they made their Messiah in THEIR image……. what they wanted him to be (and he obliged).
     Now that he is, obviously, a false Messiah, they appear false, too. He made them relevant….and now they are not.
    That is a bitter, if not impossible, pill to swallow.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Well, they made sure the country had a fatal hit by putting him in office in the first place!

  • karen for Clinton

    surfered said:

    And as for the unions, I couldn’t agree more.  Exept for an eight hour workday, a five-day work week, paid sick days, vacation days and holidays, family and medical leave, health, life, and disability insurance, a pension, safe working conditions, an end to child labor, and being primarily responsible for establishing the middle class, what did the unions ever do for us?

    And you are write.  Unions did do that and unions are still working for the rights of non-unionized workers as well as members.  That said, it is not all unions that deserve credit.  There are some, SEIU comes to mind first off the bat, that have done more harm than good and have given unions in general a bad name.

    I work for a union.  They are sometimes right and sometimes I disagree with them, but they aren’t evil and they have many good people right up in the top tiers leading the national offices.  We voted for who we wanted in the primaries.  Hillary won and they supported her whole hog till the last day.

  • karen for Clinton

    And as for the unions, I couldn’t agree more.  Exept for an eight hour workday, a five-day work week, paid sick days, vacation days and holidays, family and medical leave, health, life, and disability insurance, a pension, safe working conditions, an end to child labor, and being primarily responsible for establishing the middle class, what did the unions ever do for us? 
     
    And you are right.  Unions did do that and unions are still working for the rights of non-unionized workers as well as members.  That said, it is not all unions that deserve credit.  There are some, SEIU comes to mind first off the bat, that have done more harm than good and have given unions in general a bad name. 
     
    I work for a union.  They are sometimes right and sometimes I disagree with them, but they aren’t evil and they have many good people right up in the top tiers leading the national offices.  We voted for who we wanted in the primaries.  Hillary won and they supported her whole hog till the last day.

  • helenk

    I think the American people will be singing this one by the end of backtrack;s term

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eegguMAA5nY

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  • surfered

    Another thought:  The Jones Act requires that vessels be owned, registered, and built in American and largely operated by U. S. crews to ensure that there are sufficient working shipyards and skilled labor to supply our military’s needs.  The Navy relies heavily on commercial vessels to supply the fleet in war zones.  In Iraq, merchant mariners move 90% of the American combat cargo.  I would appreciate Larry Johnson’s opinion turning over that responsibility to a bunch of leaky Liberian-flagged boats staffed with Somali teenagers?

  • Peggy Sue

    Yes, but that didn’t work out too well in 1860-61.  Just saying.

  • karen for Clinton

    And as for the unions, I couldn’t agree more.  Exept for an eight hour workday, a five-day work week, paid sick days, vacation days and holidays, family and medical leave, health, life, and disability insurance, a pension, safe working conditions, an end to child labor, and being primarily responsible for establishing the middle class, what did the unions ever do for us?   
       
    And you are right.  Unions did do that and unions are still working for the rights of non-unionized workers as well as members.  That said, it is not all unions that deserve credit.  There are some, SEIU comes to mind first off the bat, that have done more harm than good and have given unions in general a bad name.   
       
    I am a union worker.  People who don’t know much about unions often have a lot to say about us.  My union is sometimes right and sometimes I disagree with them, but they aren’t evil and they have many good people up in the top tier national and state and local offices. 

    We voted for who we wanted in the primaries.  Hillary won and they supported her whole hog till the last day.

  • oowawa

    Yes, Cindy. “they made their Messiah in THEIR image.”

    That’s the way he planned it: “we are the ones we’ve been waiting for.”

  • Cindy

    Amen, Bro.Oowawa-
     And all we are saying is give a Revolution a chance  :-D

  • Cindy

    Peggy Sue—NOTHING works out well when Yankees are in charge! ;)

  • FLDemFem

    FYI, the word is spelled “secede”. Root word is “cede”, which means to give up or yield to. It is usually used in treaties and other agreements of that sort. Secede means to withdraw from, usually used in terms of a group withdrawing from an organization. Secession is a serious thing, it literally divorces the states, or other seceding entities, from the nation, its laws and protection. So if the states in conflict with the US government do secede, the US government has every right to invade and restore those states to the union. Before you talk secession, read up on Sherman’s March through Georgia and think about what that translates to in modern terms. Then shut up.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Where you talking about now the Gulf coast or Iraq?

  • sowsear

    “struts and frets his hour upon the stage”…time for the hook.

  • ~~JustMe~~
  • Cindy

    helenk—-Even better!! LOL!

  • guest

    For people who still like him, the primary criterion is social acceptability as understood in a particular circle … theirs. Obama dresses the part, he speaks in a carefully modulated near-monotone and his controversial views are at least fashionable enough to not set the Right People all atwitter. It’s all style over substance, and not just any style, but their style. It trumps all for the pundits, and the many people just like them, and they’re now worried about feeling foolish because of it. So, another round of carefully modulated and oh-so-elevated navel gazing. Oh those rubes, they made a mess of things and spoiled the great hope of one of our own, how could this happen? It can’t possibly be that we were wrong, no, it must be something else. And on, and on.

  • Sassy

    The healthcare reform legislation was topic one on Tuesday, when our gubernatorial candidates held a forum with area business leaders.
    This law is expected to cost Tennessee an additional $300 million more per year.
    I don’t know where that money will come from, unless we can find a market for kudzu!
    The democratic whiners’ response:” Conservative politicians are hoping to benefit in November by wasting our tax dollars and the federal courts’ time by filing a legal challenge to the new law.”
    So the union votes courted by the democrats is irrelevant?

  • Peggy Sue

    I’m a Yankee living in the South now.  There’s no way I’m going to answer that, Cindy. :-D

  • sowsear
  • FLDemFem

    Surfered, how did anyone as stupid as you are learn to type?? The Jones Act can be waived specifically, and usually is, so that only vessels listed, or from listed nations, are permitted to bring oil containment and cleaning equipment into US waters. It would not affect the supply line to the military. And even if it did, supplies can be run in by the US Navy..they have lots of ships with cargo space..just imagine how much stuff could be stacked on an aircraft carrier deck..even when leaving a flight deck open for planes. So just go back to Cheetoland and resume your worship of Obama. I am sure you can get lots of rabidly supportive responses if you post your drivel there.

  • oowawa

    Yes.  My suspicious nature also imagines funds being funnelled through GS to prop up our fraudulent joke of a stock market.

  • elizabethrc

    As looney as Beck may sometimes get, he’s right about the need for us to be watching both of Obama’s hands.  He’s pulling so many stunts at once that some are going to slip by.
    I see very little other than in Drudge about the NY judge who has decided and allowed Hispanics to have 6 votes (that’s SIX votes) because he thinks there needs to be greater Hispanic representation.
    Good Lord, our Constitution is being stolen  before our eyes.
    Why isn’t someone reporting on this assault big time?

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Yea! They raise him up alright! Wonder if they feel he has calmed the stormy seas! UGH

    They must enjoy living in chaos!

  • Cindy

    FLDemFem—Arizona is about to have its ass sued off by the nation that is “protecting ” them.  The Mexican drug cartel’s march through Arizona (and all points north) is fast becoming the new improved  “Sherman’s March through Georgia”. It’s a travesty how Arizona is being treated by it’s own nation. Heartbreaking!
     And it can and WILL happen to the rest of the states, too…if Obama’s admin. has anything to say about it.

  • FLDemFem

    Well known FL bumpersticker says, “Keep the South beautiful, put a Yankee on a bus.”
    8-)

  • sowsear

    I don’t know where that money will come from, unless we can find a market for kudzu! 


    Hey, that’s an idea…the perfect gift for your garden.

  • Sassy

    JustMe, thanks for that rock-a-billie dittie!
    Jerry Reed is always good for a pick-me-up!

  • oowawa

    Yes, most things in this world have their good side and their bad side.  This certainly applies to unions throughout their history.

  • FLDemFem

    Then we need to get rid of the Obama administration, not give them an excuse to take on dictatorial powers. Impeachment and conviction is the way to go, not civil war. Secession would instantly put those states in the wrong, not on the side of the angels as they are now. Right now they are doing their duty, as best they can, to their citizens, and the Feds aren’t. We need to keep it that way. To do that, we use the laws, in this nation of laws, to rid ourselves of this threat to our security, the current president and his cohorts. That means impeachment and conviction, not secession and revolution. Besides, we can’t afford to have a revolution, too expensive. Impeachment uses resources already in place, and evidence already gathered. Cheaper by far. Face it, the country is broke, and very unemployed which means less revenue. And, as I have repeatedly pointed out, impeachment is not only cheaper, it will get Obama off the pension and perks list for life.

  • Cindy

    P.S. And the only thing worse than having your OWN country march through your state and destroy it, is having your OWN country let ANOTHER country march through your state and destroy it!
    And if it’s your state, I certainly wouldn’t blame your for talking about secession or revolution.

  • oowawa

    LOL–Is there anyway we can turn kudzu loose on the oil spill?  I figure the oil spill can only advance inland until it hits the kudzu . . .

  • Retired

    C’mon.  The whole objective of the healthcare bill was to set up an untenable  situation where we would be “forced” into a British NHS-style centralized government “universal” healthcare system.  That’s why the Secretary of HHS hired an unabashed NHS admirer as her Medicare chief–to pave the way for an American NHS.
    That chief, Dr. Donald M. Berwick, has publically pronounced himself as a firm believer in government-directed centralized healthcare rationing.  And the Secretary of HHS has publicly stated that Berwick “is right.”
    Need anymore evidence as to where this administration intends to take us?
    There is only one solution: sane adults must take control of Congress in 2010 and we mustboot Obama out of the White House in 2012.

  • Cindy

    Peggy-LOL!!

  • honestlawyermostly

    surfered– Except for the National Park System, the Environmental Protection Agency and the Emancipation Proclamation, what has the Republican Party every done for us?

    Past glories may not be relevant to current events.  There is no doubt about it– unions did many great things, but, like all organizations, even in their glory days, there were elements who were corrupt thugs (Hoffa, for example) just as there are today (SEIU).

  • Sassy

    oowawa and sowsear, I thought we might eventually get people to smoke it…clear the fields and roll in revenue.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Sassy, I cannot take credit helenk added your pick-me-up for the day! :)

  • Cindy

    FlDemFem—Impeachment might be cheaper, but it’s just not realistic.
    Obama will never be impeached, IMHO.

  • honestlawyermostly

    Excellent comment.

  • honestlawyermostly

    oowawa– I don’t know what is going on with my computer.  I tried to say “excellent comment” but it stuck it in way down the thread.  So here goes again:  Excellent comment.

  • Michelle from the Resistance

    “At what point do the people who buy every single word coming out of Obama’s mouth finally accept that they are being had?”


  • helenk

    But you always make it better. I still can not understand how to make the small picture of you tube.
    You help me a lot . Thank You

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE CHATTERING PEOPLE RULE

  • FLDemFem

    That judge gave ALL the voters six votes, not just Hispanics. The council has six seats and each vote is for one seat. They can vote for the same person for all six seats if they want to. Every one gets the same amount of voting power, it’s not just Hispanics. If you are going to read something, read the entire thing, not just the sensational headline.

  • Sassy

    Agree 100% retired!
    I am going to work for votes in both elections. Our future depends on it.
    The rumors are already circulating, though, about putting Hillary on the VP ticket in 2012. I’m finished with the Clintons, but it will entice many women back into the fold. They just never learn!

  • Cindy

    ~JustMe~ yes, thanks for posting the video…You are always so kind!

  • ~~JustMe~~

    LOL Cindy TY. Although, I really do have a bad side sometimes! =-O  

  • carol haka

    OMG!

    Julia Reed was pounding on Obama on CNN.  Now she is being called a racist because she said  “……………. he’s out of his cotton pickin’ mind!”

    Well all you race baitors – my parents and grandparents and uncles and aunts picked cotton.  They are “WHITE”.

    Obama has never “picked cotton”.

    So, STFU!

    >:o

  • Cindy

    Michelle—-great video…Wow! or should I say “ShamWow”!!

  • ~~JustMe~~

    I can see it now, all surrounding a huge cauldron stirring the pot and debating which direction to redistribute the wealth!

  • honestlawyermostly

    oowawa– your comment has made me think, and as usual, I am going in circles.  I agree that in Jonestown, drinking the Kool-aid was the public proof that this belief was even more important than life itself.  But the same could be said of the Texicans and others at the Alamo or soldiers in war or anyone else who gives up his or her life for a belief.  Something in our brains allows us to lose the ability to distinguish between “good” beliefs and “bad” beliefs so that they become equally valid reasons to make the sacrifice.  I have no idea what that something is.  My head hurts.

  • kenoshamarge

    I believe Oblahblah and every other s o b elected official that doesn’t uphold the Constitution of the United States, as they are sworn to do are guilty of treason. That the Justice, LOL, Department of the United States would sue the State of Arizona for trying to protect itself from a deluge of people, citizens of a foreign nation, is to me nothing less than treason. Thus impeach the skinny little POS for High Crimes and Misdemeanors. (I admit I am not a lawyer but I watch Law and Order a lot.) The go after every illegal-loving s o b in the House and Senate that refuses to uphold the laws of this nation. Then Governors. Then Mayors that allow their cities to become “sanctuary” cities. 

    If we expect to have a country for our children and our grandchildren that in any way shape or form resembles the United States of America, we have to do this. We can’t do it with a Democratic majority. Simple as that.

    Climbing down now.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    “The head hurting” is a knock on effect from, January 20, 2009. We have to be one step ahead at this point! Can you feel November in there somewhere? If so you’re doing fine!

  • oowawa

    hmmmm–I wonder if anybody has ever tried to hybridize cannabis and kudzu?  That would sure make the whole “legalization” debate a thing of the past . . .

  • ~~JustMe~~

    See, we always need to read the small print!

  • bamaLV

    here in nevada we have the highest forclosure rate and the highest unemployment rate in the country.  we also have harry reid, the most powerful (and corrupt) man in the senate, and all he’s
    interested in  helping are the unions that support him. i will be voting for anyone who runs against him.

  • Cindy

    kenoshomarge—I hear ya, but impeachment has to be done by congress. And unless we magically have a congress of all tea-partiers and/or  1) a majority of men with testicular activity and 2) brave women,  then it ain’t gonna happen…sad but true.

  • elizabethrc

    FlDemFem:  I stand corrected, but I guess I’m just a bit dense here.  Explain to me how, if everyone has 6 votes, this helps Hispanics. 
    I was never good at math.

  • arabella trefoil

    I’m not distracted. I got my eyes on the prize. I will Remember in November. I not iron when the strike is hot. Ad astra, per aspera. All that stuff.

    I choose to stay and fight dammit! Nothing these idiots do is going to make me give up. Strategic voting – throw the incumbents out. Scare the shit out of them. They all count on our being ignorant, tired, and hopeless. The people I see here are none of the above. We can outlast these fuckers.

    I am Arabella Trefoil, the Wrath of God! Who is with me?

  • sowsear

    That was my first thought…but I think it’s been tried and found wanting.

  • sowsear

    Maybe we could plant it on the southern border …but we’d have to blow the seeds south so that we’re not overcome by illegals and the weeds.

  • carol haka

    I’m in.  (I’m too scared from that rant to say anything else!) =-O

    :-D

  • carol haka

    Bomb threat at Texas Capitol.

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7060486.html

    Also, I heard they just found 46 illegal aliens locked into the back of a van outside of Laredo, Texas.  The temperature in Dallas is around 100.  Don’t know what it is in Laredo.

    >:o

  • sowsear

    Can you see this?

  • arabella trefoil

    Good. I got your back and you got mine, right?

  • oowawa

    You can count on me!

  • oowawa

    Were they dressed like this?

  • honestlawyermostly

    Si.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    My goodness oowawa, you will have people clamoring to claim you! ;)

  • Cindy

    oowawa–LOL!!
    Or, could that be some of Obama czars, waiting for assignment?

  • sowsear

    I saw him first..

  • carol haka

    Is your friend “brown” naturally or has she been dipped in oil?

    :-D

  • ~~JustMe~~

    LOL! Entonces gracioso!

  • carol haka

    It’s the legal team sent down to deal with Jan.

    :*

  • honestlawyermostly

    carol– don’t worry about the bomb threat.  This happens every Friday when the legislators have frijoles for lunch.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    I live closer! :*

  • AbigailAdams

    Oowawa:  Great summary of what happened to those foolish obots.  And it’s real scary to think that there are just that many Americans, young and old, who are, by any definition, emotionally disordered.  Because it really does take a mental instability to be drawn into a cult–religious or political.  And there are a lot of people who have never seen the pictrures, read the story or heard the last audio tapes from Guyana/Jonestown.  That’s why some of the obots who hang around here just creep me out.  Given the right set of circumstances, I’m sure they would literally throw themselves under a bus for barry. 

  • carol haka

    Alvin Greene wants to play Golf with Obama.  He also wants to be Man of the Year for Time Magazine. 

    I say if he doesn’t get to, all of the “deciders” are racists!

    :-D

  • ~~JustMe~~

    He’s ACTUALLY going for the Nobel Peace Prize! Guess what he may even get it ;)

  • Docelder

    I would guess there are more white folks alive right now that have picked cotton in their lifetimes than black people who have picked it. Climb down off of your crosses people. Nobody is crucifying anybody anymore because of their color. Unless it’s white people who own guns and bibles.

  • required reading

    To continue sowsear’s Shakespearian quotation:

    “… it is a tale told by an idiot, signifying nothing.” The idiot, in this case, being our Idiot-in-Chief, who did indeed, look very very small sitting in that Big Office of his…

  • sowsear

    Why not…they have invented the trickle up theory.

  • sowsear

    He’s pretty sad at the moment…

  • oowawa

    Yes, and how many even remember the Heaven’s Gate cult in 1997?

    When Obama Comet finally exits this universe, they’ll be wanting to leave with it . . .

  • sowsear

    Well maybe it can happen…

  • ~~JustMe~~

    And we should never assist him by giving him a booster seat.

  • EllenD

    Most people can ultimately face the fact that they’ve been “had” by a politician or a con-artist.

    Con artists rely on people being so ashamed by being taken that they won’t report it.
    In the case of Obama, they can’t admit it and face their friends. I have two friends that, if they start to turn negative, I’ll know the end is nigh. They’re my canaries in the coal mine.

  • sowsear

    Each Hispanic can give all of his/her votes to the Hispanic candidate(s). Supposedly the population there is 50% Hispanic but they have none on the “city council” (or whatever). Course, would be nice if someday we could vote for the candidate that is the best in our estimation.

  • sowsear

    I can fly there on my little fairy wings…

  • No Longer an American

    never gonna happen.  we’re done. 

  • Captain Jack Sparrow

    The not waving of the Jones Act has very little to do with the Unions and has more to do with financial liabilities . Please try and understand the implication of waving the Jones Act before you all go nuts. Besides what ships are we talking about that we as a Nation can’t muster anyway? Remember we have the US Reserve Fleet which has everything from a dingy to a supertanker on its roster. So what ships am I missing here? My biggest problem is the lack of oversight on the spill event and the Governors of LA. MS, AL and FL being just as standoffish as they can be. All talk no action. its simple. Your the Chief Executive of a State? Then start acting like one and either take action and sent the bill to BP or use you AG as the collection agency or shut the fuck up.

    Additionally its not just about BP. Transocean is getting a free ride here. They are just as responsible. Not the crew of the rig but the suits in the company. This should really piss you all off…

    Internal Investigation Reports Revealed By Congress & A Call To 12th Grade Teachers

    Congress is playing game as well. So lets call a democrat and republican spade a spade.

  • Captain Jack Sparrow

    The not waving of the Jones Act has very little to do with the Unions and has more to do with financial liabilities . Please try and understand the implication of waving the Jones Act before you all go nuts.

    Besides what ships are we talking about that we as a Nation can’t muster anyway? Remember we have the US Reserve Fleet which has everything from a dingy to a supertanker on its roster. So what ships am I missing here?

    My biggest problem is the lack of oversight on the spill event and the Governors of LA. MS, AL and FL being just as standoffish as they can be. All talk no action. Its this simple. Your the Chief Executive of a State? Then start acting like one and either take action and send the bill to BP and/or use your AG as the collection agency or shut the fuck up.  
     
    Additionally its not just about BP. Transocean is getting a free ride here. They are just as responsible. Not the crew of the rig but the suits in the company. This should really piss you all off…  
     
    Internal Investigation Reports Revealed By Congress & A Call To 12th Grade Teachers  
     
    Congress is playing game as well. So lets call a democrat and republican spade a spade.

    Call your representaive today and ask him if he is willng to take his head out of his ass just for a dew moments.

  • Captain Jack Sparrow

    PS… Can we get a spell checker or edit function put in …please…..

  • sowsear
  • sowsear

    Do I have to buy an English/Spanish Dictionary already?

  • sowsear
  • ~~JustMe~~

    Psst Sparrow! I will help you as long as you make sure your posts are Fuc*less and you refrain from bashing folk. (One can hope) :)
     
    Open word or your email program and write your post there and you can spell check before copy and pasting here. Maybe that will help you.

  • FLDemFem

    CJS, try proof-reading. It works for the rest of us. And just learn to spell or use Google to check your spelling. Easy as pie.

  • arabella trefoil

    No Longer an American, what do you mean “We’re done”?

    Apparently you a never done. Never done wringing your hands, moaning, complaining etc. You must be a real fun person in RL. I bet when your at a party a whole crowd gathers around you.

    I’m not done. I’ll never be done. I can’t afford the luxury of a negative thought. I wish there were a place on the Blogosphere for the eternal pessimists to gather:

    We are so fucked!
    We’re toast!
    It’s over. All over. Done.

    I apologize if I’m misreading you. History has shown that humanity has gone through some really bad times. But some how, some way we manage to struggle along. There are people out there who could use your help. There are lots of things you can do for yourself to make yourself feel better. Go outside and pick up litter or something. That’s what I do when I feel hopeless and depressed. And the bad feeling doesn’t last.

    No Quarter is a great place to learn things and to meet people. I get the impression that most people here are resourceful, determined and are here for the long haul.

    Pessimism is the last refuge of cowards. It gives you permission to do nothing.

  • EllenD

    I’ve been in a Union, and I’ve had a Corporation that a Union took to court in its attempts to unionize the workers.

    They didn’t succeed – we won. Hard to unionize workers where the employer is paying them better and giving better benefits. Easy, if they’re being treated badly.
    And right now I’m on the Union side because some employers are using illegals to keep down the wages and benefits they would normally be paying citizens.
    I’ve seen the ugly side of both. But when they are IN BALANCE it is a good system. The key words for everything are IN BALANCE.

  • candymarl

    The use of that expression was/is common in my family and my husband’s family. We, my husband and I,  are descendants of slaves on both sides unlike Obama. Guess we’re racists too.

  • csuzeq

    Maybe there is hope for impeachment in the name of Issa:

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0610/38697.html

  • Docelder

    They can give it to him for the great things he maybe will do someday.

  • candymarl

    I’m with ya arabella! As I said on aniother thread I’m either too stubborn or too stupid to give up.

  • candymarl

    Carolh – racist! ;)

  • Docelder

    Si, and a Mandarin Chinese dictionary. Engish is so repressive when you think about it. =-O

  • Captain Jack Sparrow

    Yeah use your email or word processor…That is a pain in the ass. Proof reading? Yeah well you know some of us just out gun ourselves at times…

    As far as the colorful metaphors are concerned? Well get over it….

  • EllenD

    Cotton-pickin as an adjective was very popular in the fifties on television. Tennessee Ernie Ford, George Goebel, and others.
    People would say “Get your cotton-pickin hands off my ________”, without any racial inference.

  • Docelder

    The democrats thought Obama would carry them. It has been completely the other way around.

  • Docelder

    Is the next “bubble” for all the marbles?

  • candymarl

    if he does  JustMe I swear before God… Ah to hell with it.

  • EllenD

    and has more to do with financial liabilities . Please try and understand the implication of waving the Jones Act before you all go nuts. 

    Explain, please.

  • jwrjr

    I prefer Japanese.  Insults are so much fun in it.

  • jwrjr

    Or else right-click on your reply.  In the menu that comes up “check spelling” should be the last entry.

  • Docelder

    Yosemite Sam always called Bugs a “cotton Pickin” rabbit. I guess now somebody will buy up the Yosemite Sam cartoons and lock them away somewhere like the Little Rascals videos.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    LOL I can do that really quick Sparrow, fuc* you. You’re too fuc*ing lazy to think for yourself!

  • Justine

    I detest Obummer more than most, but don’t really know that there is a legal way to secede from the union (except, maybe, Texas).  I think FLDemFem is absolutely correct. 

    Perhaps there aren’t the votes now to impeach him, but hopefully after the November elections there will be.  Unless the non-Obummer supporters do something really, really stupid.  Which could easily happen…
    .

  • carol haka

    Hell, if I wanted to pick up litter I could just bend over from my office chair and follow the path to my kitchen. :-D

  • Captain Jack Sparrow

    jwrjr… Your DA Man! Thank You….

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Sparrow you’re helpless!

  • carol haka

    Whoops!

    Mort Zuckerman in US News and World Report:

    (Obama ……………… amateurish…………… incompetent …..)

    http://www.usnews.com/articles/opinion/2010/06/18/mort-zuckerman-world-sees-obama-as-incompetent-and-amateur.html?msg=1

    Hey Morty.  What took ya so long?

    Now, are all of you that put him in office going to call for his impeachment for incompetence?

    >:o

  • honestlawyermostly

    EllenD– I dare not pretend to speak for CJS, but a major feature of the Jones Act is that it allows workers on ships subject to it to sue the owner of the vessel for negligence/ lack of seaworthiness whereas international maritime law generally did not allow such lawsuits.  I don’t know if this is what CJS has in mind.  That increased liability is said to make shipping on US vessels more expensive.  I have no idea whether that’s true.

  • oowawa

    Yes sowsear, it was a very ill-advised ad.  It opens her up to attacks from the right and the left (as I assume the site you linked is).  And for what?  She can’t be on both sides at once.  It’s time to take a stand!

  • Captain Jack Sparrow

    Basically The Jones Act or the Merchant Marine Act of 1920 is like the Federal Employer Liability Act or FELA..

    Many marine injuries, including on offshore oil rigs like the Deepwater Horizon, are covered by the Jones Act.  The Jones Act is a federal statute found at 46 United States Code 688 that was passed by the United States Congress that allows an injured employee to sue their employer for ALL the damages that the employee has suffered as a result of an injury. 

    The Jones Act also governs the liability of vessel owner / operators / marine employers for work-related injury or death of their employees. 

    Its just not for Unions….

  • arabella trefoil

    When that greasy, tattered card gets dealt out of the pack, we know the Obots got nuthin.’

    Many white people picked cotton. Ever heard of sharecroppers? Many of them were white. How about the Dustbowl? Whole families even children picked cotton. (And yeah, they were white.)

    I was lucky enough to have a neighbor who liked to talk to me about her family and her childhood. Her older brother loved to talk about his days picking cotton, and crab fishing. He told me stories about what the work was like, and how proud he and his crew were of their reknown for speed and efficiency in the cotton fields. The man was in his late eighties when he died, and he was active up to his last days. Yes, the work was hard, but no shame was associated with it. Quite the contrary. (And btw, my neighbors were black.)

    Here are some photos of white cotton pickers:

  • carol haka

    Construction workers had to take the day off when Obama showed up for a 10 minute speech where he referenced Biden’s “Big ……… Deal”.

    The trip Columbus probably cost taxpayers between $500,000 and $1 million.

    Air Force One alone bills out at $100,000 per hour, and the round trip is nearly two hours. Adding to the cost are military aircraft to carry limos and secret service vehicles, Marine One on standby, Secret Service, local police and other factors.

    >:o

  • carol haka

    Ben Stein just said Obama had no authority to demand the money from BP yesterday.

    Shakedown!

    >:o

  • arabella trefoil

    Great news! Look at all these people who refuse to give up.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    deadly at times!

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Will you need help candy?

  • arabella trefoil

    Ah, carol haka. I love ya, girl. Look at how efficient you are. You can do the “litter-clean-up-thing” without even leaving the house!

    I totes want you on my team.

  • sowsear

    Problem with some politicians, they think we can’t read, think, or listen. Like BO, tell um what they want to hear and don’t take any questions.

  • arabella trefoil

    Captain Jack Sparrow – What “colorful metaphor” are you talking about?

    How is life aboard the Orca these days?

  • guest

    Captain Jack Sparrow – What “colorful metaphor” are you talking about? 

    Pretty sure he means shut the fuck up…. try it.

  • kenoshamarge

    “Justice is a woman with a sword”. Count me in. Old and slow but determined.

  • sowsear

    OT Friends, 
    I have some questions about CA wedding ”protocol”.
    What  do guests wear at a 3PM upscale SoCA wedding in August?
    What is the approximate amount spent for shower and wedding gifts.
    I am the aunt of the bride.
    …….”Now we will return to our regular programming”

  • sowsear

    They have flogged that horse to death…

  • EllenD

    Thank you both. So under the Jones Act the workers on foreign boats could sue the owners for injuries suffered in a cleanup, but if the Jones Act was waived for these ships the workers could no longer sue?
    Are they worried that this waiver might be used against all the workers on the rigs and American ships?
    Can the President waive only parts of the Jones Act?

  • honestlawyermostly

    CJS– I’ve only handled a few admiralty cases and have never dealt with a waiver situation.  If the Jones Act is waived, would that waiver apply to US vessels as well as foreign vessels so that American or legally resident workers would lose the protection of the statute?  And is that what the objection to waiver is about?  Thanks.

  • arabella trefoil

    guest, I don’t think that’s a metaphor.

  • honestlawyermostly

    EllenD– as I understand it, the Jones Act requires that vessels moving from point A to point B in US navigable waters be American vessels– built in our shipyards– and that they be manned by American or legally resident workers.  Nobody else can engage in maritime trade between US ports.  As CJS said, the Jones Act gives injured workers the right to recover all of their damages which is different from international maritime law.  I think a waiver would mean that foreign owned vessels that are not covered by the Jones Act would be allowed to go from American port to American port and the workers on those boats would not be able to hold the employer or vessel owner liable for negligence or unseaworthiness.  This all is a bit afar of my field so it may be wrong.

  • sowsear

    Meanwhile back in Iraq, sons kill father
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100618/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iraq

  • ~~JustMe~~

    LOL Doc English is so yesterday!

  • ~~JustMe~~

    He likes to burn our money that’s for sure!

  • sowsear
  • sowsear
  • Ferd Berfle

    I’m with you, Arabella

  • Doc99

    Gallup: Majority of Americans don’t believe Obama deserves re-election.
    http://tinyurl.com/26adk3u

  • TeakWoodKite

    Try this one Capt J Sparrow. It works well when I remember to use it….
    http://www.iespell.com/download.php

  • Doc99

    Keith Hennessey – Attention White House – How To Waive the Jones Act.
    http://keithhennessey.com/2010/06/18/how-to-waive-the-jones-act/

  • Ferd Berfle

    The new rules mandate that new individuals may not be added to grandfathered health plans after a business merger or restructuring so that grandfather status is not traded as a commodity. Thus companies will likely have employees with two different types of health care coverage, if the companies stay with their current plan.
    ==============================
    The lying bastard democrats in Congress need to be shown where the door is come November and then shoved through it so that this piece-of-shit law can be repealed. I’m voting a straight Republican ticket in local, state, and national races this year for the first time in my life.

  • honestlawyermostly

    Doc99– thanks for the link.  It was very informative.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Gallup: Majority of Americans don’t believe Obama deserves re-election.
    =====================
    Hell, he doesn’t even deserve to be or stay in office. He’s unfit, unqualified, dangerous, and corrupt. I never trusted That One or the silly-ass unicorn he rode in on.

  • Annie/Carmel

    Wonder if they’ll be handing out help via instant $2,000 “debit cards” as they did during Katrina?  That was a real boon for Louis Vuitton.

  • Guest

    Amateurish and inexperienced ? What’s next ? Cynical and politically dishonest  ? Ya think ? That’ll push him past Carter for sure.

    More like someone who has serious mental issues running our country into the ground because he believes he is on a divinely inspired mission from God.

  • carol haka

    Of course she has the name “Arabella”.  That is just regal.

    :-D

  • arabella trefoil

    The poll states that 46%  say Obama deserves re-election. If Obama didn’t have the black voters and the loony left sticking with him, his numbers would be much lower. Add to that, the media have been nothing but cheerleaders for Obama. There has been no investigative journalism and no objective reporting of the Obama administration.

    He’d be in the 30′s or lower without those mitigating factors. Same as Bush was, and it took Bush longer to get there.

    The loony left sure are loyal though. A quick cruise through the liberal blogs have people blaiming Axelrod and Rahm. Obama’s problems would all go away if he just got a new team in place.

  • Annie/Carmel

    It would have helped if the desk hadn’t been completely bare.  But since it usually is, maybe they thought they’d try to be realistic.  Yes, he’s lost.

  • Annie/Carmel

    It will be when they lose the majority of both houses.  There’s a sense that people are just biding their time.  As Ben Stein pointed out today he has commited many impeachable offenses, subverting the consitution and taking over dictatorial powers. 

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Even looks like the unicorn is trying to make a quick escape!

  • carol haka

    34 Soldiers have died in Afghanistan already this month.

    The Gulf of Mexico is destroyed.

    No one is Hollywood is reacting.

    When the oil starts up the East Coast, they will be picketing the WH. 

    We will be able to sit back and enjoy their pain.

    >:o

  • Annie/Carmel

    Better let the First Fat Ass know that, Carol.  Remember she has a plan for the unemployed and retired to pick up trash and doggie poo in the parks.

  • Annie/Carmel

    Like fire, oowawa.  It can keep you warm and also burn your house down.

  • susiepuma

    It’s not only the unions the fraud is protecting by refusing to waive the Jones Act – found this little tidbit:

    ‘Where the Indonesian link starts.

    Ann Dunham married in 1967 Lolo Soetoro, a Javanese, whose own father, in 1946 was killed along with his eldest brother were killed, after which the Dutch army burned down the family’s home. Soetoro fled with his mother into the countryside to survive. Incidentally yet more proof of Dutch war crimes – delibrate destruction of civilian property outside the scope of battle.’

    We know he hates the British because of his Kenya father  – we know he is thin-skinned, holds drudges, can’t handle criticism, is a chicago thug – so Dutch ships – forget it
    Louisiana and the rest of the country are screwed (all 57? states) because of this arrogant, narcissistic sociopathic POS posing as Prez ..

  • susiepuma

    damm – meant grudges……………………………….

  • Doc99
  • susiepuma

    oops – here is link if you want to read whole article……………………

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/06/my-name-is-barry-soetoro-and-i-was-born.html

  • Olivia1998

    Me too.  Never thought I would say it with a grin but gulp :-D   Republicans all the way.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Wonder if they’ll be handing out help via instant $2,000 “debit cards” as they did during Katrina? 
    ===============

    Nah, they’ll be handing out little beige books by Chairman BO.

  • carol haka

    If he held “drudges”, the Gulf Coast would be in good shape.

    :-D

  • carol haka

    Kevin Costner just held a small news conference after they loaded 3 of his oil separators on board a ship headed for “ground zero”.

    He was choked up and holding back tears very unsuccessfully.

    The commentator said, “If you build it, they will come.”

    Go Kevin – I hope you and your brother become billionaires.

    :*

  • No Longer an American

    We are the laughing stock of the world.  a Nation of fucking idiots.  3rd world nation.  what the fuck are we gonna do about it????  do you really thing we are going to vote these idiots out when they can install an illeagal alien under our nose?

  • kafir

    How couls a Muslim be the POTUS?

    You reap what you sowed!

  • No Longer an American

    seems as though indonesia knows where it’s obama worshiping false idol should go LOL

  • kafir

    How could a Muslim be the POTUS?  
    You reap what you sowed! 

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU9iCANi02o&NR=1

  • ~~JustMe~~

    I get the feeling it would be a little like this candymarl!

  • BuzzLatte

    Let’s hope the feds don’t stop the ship – for safety inspections…

    Kevin for President!

  • Ferd Berfle

    When Obama Comet finally exits this universe, they’ll be wanting to leave with it . . .
    ===================
    I’ll be wanting them to leave with him and it, too.

  • No Longer an American

    She just lost the election.  She can’t be trusted

  • GORDO

    From “Indonesia Matters”(Nov 6th, 2008) article at susiepuma’s link above:

    “Barrak Hussein Obama II was born to a white American Ann Dunham and Kenyan Barrak Hussein Obama Snr, in Nyang’oma Kogelo now in Kenya.”

  • Cindy

    Cotton-pickin as an adjective was very popular in the fifties

    EllenD—True. It was a euphemism used by nice people in the South  when what they really wanted to say  was “goddam!”.

  • Cindy

    Nobody is crucifying anybody anymore because of their color. Unless it’s white people who own guns and bibles

    that’s the absolute truth, Doc!

  • lorac

    But Cindy, from what we’ve heard, the AZ law is virtually identical to the national law, so I think there’s a good chance that AZ will win.  Then it no longer has to be all a mess, they can protect their state, and others can follow.  It could be a good thing!  (although, I suppose it will have to go to Supreme Court, which probably will take years).

    Can AZ’s law still take effect on July 31 if a lawsuit can been filed against it?

    Personally, I think Obama (1) doesn’t really want the border secure, and (2) if he has to be forced into it, he wants to give amnesty first.  If the border is controlled first, people are going to go back home voluntarily or be deported, and Obama doesn’t want to lose those potential future amnesty-people to vote for him. 

  • Cindy

    If he held “drudges”, the Gulf Coast would be in good shape—–

    carol h- LOL! and he could write about them on the Drudge Report :)

  • donjo

    Allan has appeared to be a lap dog for BP during this entire fiasco.

  • HARP

    “Obama senior adviser David Axelrod said Greene was not a ‘legitimate’ candidate and called his victory ‘a mysterious deal.’ (Yes, how could a young African-American man with strange origins, suspicious funding, shady associations, no experience, no qualifications, and no demonstrable work history come out of nowhere and win an election?)”
    - Ann Coulter.

  • sowsear

    Does this law have anything to do with cruise ships not wanting to come into American ports? I have been told that ships  coming into American ports have to have American crews . Those with American crews have a reputation for poorer service than foreign crews.
    I’ve only been on one cruise, to Alaska, and we went out of a Canadian port, but my friend who has been on dozens of cruises says the worst service she ever had was on a ship out of Hawaii.
    We also have friends who book cruises and they told us that also.

  • Diana L. C.

    Wow!  That guy’s rant was delivered just the way I feel inside when I think about our country idiot.  Every town supposedly has one, but now we have a country idiot.

  • Cindy

    lorac— I think you are exactly right about Senyor Obama wanting those potential future voters!

  • donjo

    How about: Leave, but just leave your money.

  • Cindy

    AnnieCarmel…..True —but Obama would have to lie under oath about having sex with somebody for action to be taken, IMO.
    All we heard about during Bush’s first 4 years was that if we’d only get the opposition (at the time, us) elected as the majority in Congress, then we could impeach him.

    Impeachment  makes us feel good to talk about…but it rarely happens, as we have witnessed in our history.

  • sowsear

    Did he come home or take a trip to CA for the weekend?
    MO’s aide says she will pay all “appropriate” expenses for her trip to the west coast,  but Michelle’s Mirror says most of it is a political expense (Barbara Boxer).

  • candymarl

    Carolh at least Costner care cares enough to get up off his butt and do something.  The rest the Hollywood crowd? Too busy looking in the mirror practicing for their next role.

  • lorac

    When I lived in the midwest for my first 30 years, people always said, “You’re out of your cotton-picking mind”.  It had nothing to do with people picking cotton, blacks, slaves.  It was nothing more than a well known saying used to express incredulity.

  • Samb
  • candymarl

    That’s “the rest of”.

  • lorac

    lol I wasn’t born yet in the fifties and it was a very common saying growing up, so its popularity must have been longer than you thought  :)     (or maybe it just migrated from the south up to the midwest where I was – we always got the hand-me-downs – we never got to start the new trends!)

  • Samb

     THE FALL OF THE REPUBLIC-

    FULL VERSION ALSO ON YOUTUBE-

  • oowawa

    Yep, and what’s really wonderful about America is that after about a year in the Senate, Greene will be qualified to run for President of the United States!

    Greene is like a black Chance Gardener (Being There).  And I used to think that movie was an unrealistic fable . . .

  • lorac

    I think oowawa knows how to get the attention of women  :)

    Maybe you even borrow a puppy and take it with you to the grocery store, and have all the women surrounding you, talking to you as they pet the puppy.  You rascal, you!

  • oowawa

    So that’s where he keeps his unicorn!  I can’t wait to see it go back in . . . bet it’s a real thrill!

  • Cindy

    Samb—–Thanks for that link….Scary!!!

  • candymarl

    Carolh who cares about dead GIs now?
    Wars? What wars? Obama is yapping again or playing golf or something.

    Look over there! Michelle is a fashion icon. She’s partying with the rich and elite.

    What are few dead oil rig workers or American military personnel among friends? I’m sick of this crap. GWB was rightfully excoriated for ignoring these deaths. Now? Crickets. >:o

  • Cindy

    Greene is like a black Chance Gardener (Being There).

    So true, oowawa—-and Obama is a black Chance Gardener with Chicago connections!

  • lorac

    Don’t know what it is in Laredo. 

    (sigh)  probably a freeway heading west towards California  >:o

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Yes, only place he could have the trap door at a guess!

  • sowsear
  • Cindy

    I wasn’t born yet in the fifties

    lorac–What an AGE-ist remark!! :-D  Just kidding, kiddo!
    Actually, you missed alot…..Pop music in the 50′s was fabulous!

  • lorac

    When I’ve gone on cruises, the staff is from about every country you can think of.  I don’t think they are American citizens.  And I know someone who works on a cruise line, and she goes to many countries on the ship.  I think they’re just citizens of whatever country they’re from.

  • getfitnow

    That was my decision re: Boxer—anybody, anything but Call-Me-Senator Boxer. As the saying goes, I can see Nov. 8-)

  • sowsear
  • candymarl

    Sowsear screw the unemployed as well.  Big Brother will take care of them. Big Brother is all.

    I gotta lie down.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    No one is Hollywood is reacting. 
    When the oil starts up the East Coast, they will be picketing the WH.
      
    Why the East Coast Carol? Not sure they will do anything unless it arrives on their doorstep on the West coast!

  • sowsear

    Here we go again…everyone gets multiple votes. Ballot in Spanish.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/18/AR2010061803766.html

  • getfitnow

    Love it helenk.

    Here’s Alvin Greene’s theme song. :-D

  • ~~JustMe~~

    It’s amazing what comes to life with a little hope and change ;)  or when you don’t realize who your voting for!

  • getfitnow

    That’s obvious. Remember he said he was a blank slate. As far as I’m concerned, he’s been “shooting blanks” since DAY ONE :-P .

  • AC

    Thanks Michelle from the Resistance, nice to see some passion and without a teleprompter.

  • AC

    Here are some photos of white cotton pickers:
    **************************
    I though all cotton was/is white.

    AC’s education/enlightenment continues

  • candymarl

    Not the puppy. Noooo!

  • Olivia1998

    Anne Coulter does have away with words 8-)

  • getfitnow
  • ~~JustMe~~

    What the eye doesn’t see! “The small people” will never know :-P

  • Touchet

    it so funny listening to these people talk about the glory of the health care bill.  It will just as funny listening to them bitch at work about it after they realize all it is health care insurance that they are mandated to buy now.

    These people really think there won’t be copays and coinsurance.  EVERY one of them thinks THEY are the ones Obama talks about when he says it will be “Affordable”.  They are totally obivious to the realization that “affordable” is a relative term and doesn’t in any way define the real costs to them.

  • Touchet

    You know why right?  Cause the oil is BP’s oil and they have made a nice agreement with Obama’s campaign.  So the government is protecting their oil for them.

  • susiepuma

    He is breaking US laws right and left and nobody seems to care – not the Congress, not the Supreme Court, not the lawyers – nobody – just acting like this is completely normal -

    Nobody cares…………………I guess….

    I sent faxes & emails to congresscritters but they don’t seem to care either and I’m not really surprised ‘cuz they just want the power & the money – piss on us the peons….

  • susiepuma

    f*ck off surfered – unions were – notice were – good once upon a time – now they’re not worth the powder to blow them to hell.

    If the union leaders would spend the union dues on the members instead of buying congress etc. the union members would be in much better shape and wouldn’t have to continually try and blackmail, coerece, & threaten the private sector to pay more tax into the government so that all those government employees can have better pay & better benefits than the peons who actually work for their money

  • susiepuma

    and just for the record – I have been a union member & all the while it used to piss me royally that I would be doing my job – actually working for my pay & bennies and there would be others sitting on their asses doing nothing and getting the same benefits – piss on the unions -

    I have also worked without unions and frankly, I liked that better.

  • oowawa

    Way back in the 50′s, when they still made 78 rpm records, even white rockabilly bands used to pick cotton:

  • sowsear

    Years ago one of the southern states had a motto, maybe SC, Keep South Carolina Green. We used to help when we went to Myrtle Beach.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Do bunnies shop with a puppy in toe? Never seen that around here ;)

  • susiepuma

    I always thought that this country was a country of LAWS – especially when I would see the shit that goes on in the 3rd world & banana republics – well, shit the laws of this country no longer mean anything and nobody cares and we are becoming less than a banana republic – we don’t even grow bananas…………………………

  • sowsear

    I’ll take a team of volunteers for my house…

  • ~~JustMe~~

    opps “tow”

  • AC

    I agree susiepuma.  Yes, we grow no bananas.

  • sowsear

    I remember that question from the personality test given to all freshmen at the college I attended: Are you afraid of fire?
    When the Dean called me in to discuss the findings, I mentioned that particular question to her. When you say are you afraid of fire, do you mean a match or the whole house? (Of course, I know what they were trying to get at, but it seemed difficult to answer the question in isolation and as a generality).

  • No Longer Banned in Beantown

    the Jones Act requires that vessels moving from point A to point B in US navigable waters be American vessels.

    That is one part of the law that is problematic. The vessels must not just be US flagged, they must be US built to transport passengers or cargo, or other commercial activity such as fishing.

    The Jones act does not need to waived in entirety. It only needs to be waived for the foriegn vessels that participate.

    I applied for and received a waiver for a boat I owned that was built in France. The waivers are not unheard of.

    The Incident Commander can contract with foriegn flagged and built vessels WITHOUT WAIVING the Jones Act. The 1990 OPA give the OAC the authority to contract and disregard ALL OTHER FEDERAL LAW in the process.

    The President could have ordered it, the Incident Commander Thad Allen could order it. And Contrary the typical nonsense from the bird brain, there is no implication for US Flagged vessels or crew or business if the Act is waived for the spill response.

    If the foriegn vessels were taking work away from US built vessels, those US vessels would already be in the Gulf.

  • oowawa

    Yep lorac, but then I put down the puppy and open my raincoat and they all run away screaming . . .

  • sowsear

    Wasn’t there a movie like that?

  • sowsear

    Alvin and Barry
    “Obama senior adviser David Axelrod said Greene was not a ‘legitimate’ candidate and called his victory ‘a mysterious deal.’ (Yes, how could a young African-American man with strange origins, suspicious funding, shady associations, no experience, no qualifications, and no demonstrable work history come out of nowhere and win an election?)” 
    - Ann Coulter.

  • honestlawyermostly

    NLBib– Thanks for the clarification.  Like I said, this is not my area.  Since there can be a partial waiver, any idea why Obama has not done it?  Who could complain?

  • sowsear

    The question is do they leave from an American port? If so, they have to have an American crew. I was wondering if that was a regulation of the Jones Act.

  • oowawa

    And with Disney’s Song of the South and the entire Amos & Andy series (if all copies have not already been burned).

  • FLDemFem

    susie, when I was on the racetrack as a groom and exercise rider, some union people came into the backstretch and tried to get us to unionize. They said the best way to do it was to walk off the job for three or more days. We laughed in their faces. No one was willing to leave the care of their horses to just the trainers, it was too much work for one or two people, and the horses would have suffered from lack of care. They would have been fed, watered and hayed and maybe picked out instead of mucked out. Not something we were willing to do. We also pointed out to them that our work was classed as agricultural work and therefore not subject to minimum wage laws. We got paid what we were worth because if we didn’t, we went and worked for someone else. We worked in a meritocracy, the better you were at your job, the more you got paid. And there was a good “ladder” to work up too. If you didn’t know squat about horses, but were willing to learn, or were new to the track but not to horses, you started out as a hot walker. Then if you did well at that and showed that you could handle a horse and “read” them fairly well, you got a shot as a green groom. As a groom, you had the complete care of three horses, mucking, tacking up for exercise, bathing after exercise, grooming after walking and doing up the legs, applying liniment and putting on the stable bandages. And all of this before 11 am. Unless you were running a horse, taking it to the races, you had the afternoon off until evening stables, at about 3:30 or 4 when you came in, picked out the stall, watered and hayed up and fed the horse his dinner. Then you were off until 6 am the next morning. Back in the 70′s, I made, after taxes, over $600 a week as a groom/rider. I got extra for the riding, only $400 of that was groom pay. I also got a bonus whenever one of my horses won a race. And sometimes a tip from the owner in addition to the bonus. And any injuries or illness were handled by the HBPA(Horseman’s Benevolent and Protection Association) , who gave out vouchers for the doctor/hospital if needed. An ambulance was always on the racetrack in case a rider was thrown. And, of course, we had workman’s comp, although a valued employee was often kept on salary if injured, more money for them and less paperwork for the trainer. All of that without a union. Just be good at the job and you can make a good living. If you aren’t good at it, who wants you around the stables?? Not me!! So unions aren’t always welcome, some industries take care of their own.

  • carol haka

    Ann copied me.  I said that last week.

    :-D

  • carol haka

    Oh no.  They all have homes in the Keys and Miami and NY and Martha’s Vineyard and The Hamptons ……………

    :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

  • carol haka

    I hope Sarah shows up, and she and Kevin can do a photo shoot together.

    :*

  • FLDemFem

    I love that site..LOL., another caption for that pic is “I am Fuzzy, Destroyer of Worlds”.

  • ~~JustMe~~

    True but I am not holding my breath for them to come out and go against their Messiah. I hope I’m wrong.

  • sowsear

    Neither the corporations nor the unions should hold too much power over the other.  Balance was/is needed. Unfortunately, things don’t seem quite that tidy anymore..

  • ~~JustMe~~

    WOW oowawa, no fig leaf? 8-)

  • sowsear

    Ad astra, per aspera

  • sowsear

    She always was slow…Good work CarolH

  • sowsear

    Rasmussen has him at -21 today…Hope he keeps on truckin down.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    You have got to be kidding me with this (I was traveling to Atlanta today and missed this – oh, and Braves won - yay!).  This is just staggering.  Obama still refuses to waive the Jones Act, has the Coast GUard halt these barges, but then tries to get all of this political capital with the $20 B fund?   Thank heavens the MSM is actually reporting this.  It makes clear that we are NOT doing everything we should be doing to help there. 

    And it begs the question: WHY???

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Oh, good one, Cindy!  This is one of those times that is both funny and sad simultaneously.  You are hilarious, but the reality of the shaft we are getting from Obama is all too painful…

    KenoshaMarge, I fear you are right.  Those who no longer buying his crapola are embarrassed, but defensive, too, sticking with them in attempts to justify their support of Thee One in the first place.

    Great bumper sticker!

  • honestlawyermostly

    00wawa—–That vid is so cotton-pickin’ apropos!

  • jwrjr

    I uess that Axelrove would know about “mysterious deals”.

  • Cindy

    oowawa—-That vid is so cotton-pickin’ apropos!

  • Cindy

    AC—LOL!!

  • Annie/Carmel

    The AZ law is something she has said she doesn’t support.  At the same time she has been clear that she’s against amnesty and sanctuary cities.  They say she didn’t vote ever yet say she was against Prop 187.  If she didn’t vote what does it matter?  The worst I can think about her is that she’s pandering for the Hispanic vote.  That’s not enough for me to pave the way for a Dem in Sacramento with the possibility of Mr. Sanctuary City, Gavin Newsom, as Lt. Gov.
    I can’t vote for Jerry Brown.  He is the most open border, global government politician we will ever see.  He’s worse than Obama.

  • Annie/Carmel

    Previously Medicare would only pay for pap smears every two years.  Now, apparently they won’t pay for them  at all…so says customer service at my supplemental plan and a bill from the Doctor for $175.  They are now coded as “preventative care” and Medicare doesn’t pay for that.  When I questioned the billing code, I was told that the doctor and his billing person were required to take a seminar on what they can bill for and if they violate any of the codes, they will be severely fined.  The account person said it cost her $2k for the seminar.  If you can’t afford the 2 insurances and the extra unpaid services, guess you can try a clinic for the poor or maybe Planned Parenthood for tests.  The death panels are already in place.  May the entire Democrat party rot in hell for their duplicity and lies.

  • Annie/Carmel

    Yes, MEshill, busy mom and fashion victiim/disaster is being considered for the December cover of Vogue.  What me worry?

  • Annie/Carmel

    Fortunately, I’m not in that job catagory that my status would disqualify me. 

    My unemployed acquintances are holding their breath; Congress is playing politics with further unemployment extensions…if no approval by next week, 900,000 more fall through the safety net, running out of benefits.  This applies to all extensions apparently…however I believe federal law automatically flips a regular claim onto a 1st extension when federal % is over 7%.  CA, of course, is holding steady at 12% (officially) and Monerey County is 15%.  I’m guessing they will toy with each other until 4th of July weekend and pass something (if not more funding, then extend the dates for qualifications) before they go home to wave the flag.  I don’t remember a worse bunch than what we have to put up with now.  Listen boys, get the USA back to work.  Give us jobs then you can dismantle extensions…not the other way around.

  • Annie/Carmel
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  • kenoshamarge

    If we get a Republican majority in the House will their “Speaker” be as quick as Nanny Pelosi to take impeachment off the table?

    If so then I think we can all accept that the parties have made a “deal” with each other. I.E., “if you don’t impeach ours, we won’t impeach yours”.

    Then again the “loathing” the parties have for each other seems to have reached a boiling point. If there was a ‘deal’ will it be adhered to?

    We certainly live in interesting times. Frightening, corrupt, dishonest, and dangerous times. America has always survived such times before. What worries me is that may not always be so. A winning streak lasts until it ends.

  • kenoshamarge

    Agree sowsear. But when it’s all ya got…

  • kenoshamarge

    A politician that can’t be trusted? Fancy that.

  • kenoshamarge

    Yes, susiepuma we are a nation of laws. Unenforced laws. We got em, we just don’t enforce or respect them.

    After all if the corrupt and dimwitted pols weren’t in congress making laws all the time those asshats might actually have to do some real work.

    So they make laws and then the government ignores them. A neat little shell game that doesn’t even have a pea.

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  • AC

    Multiethnic, produce/banana songs–very good Annie/Carmel

  • Annie/Carmel

    Thanks AC.  Musical prankster, Spike Jones does seem the right performer as well.

  • AC

    You the girl Annie/Carmel!

  • Touchet

    Its just a show put on by the government, corporate, media conglomeration.  Sure there are idiots who think nothing but sunshine and can’t be bothered with reality, but something tells me they are very few compared to the larger whole.

    But they have to present to you the picture, so that there is some credible disbelief.  There lies and illusions are comming to an end though.  They can no longer keep up the farce.

    So to answer to question, Most people don’t.  I would say over 80% of americans know and can see the truth.  The news presents you a LIE and you have to believe it, cause you have no choice.  You can not possibly know what the other 30 million people in the nation are doing or thinking.  They know that.

  • Touchet

    umm you talk as if the congress will impeach him.  You can’t stick to anything, thats the whole point of the comment.

    The whole lot of them are corrupt.  How are you going to get a corrupted congress to impeach their head mascot.  DUH!

  • Captain Jack Sparrow

    Life is good Arabella!  But the question to you is. When are you going to even get a life?

  • Captain Jack Sparrow

    EllenD

    The vessels must be under US Flag and operated by US personnel. These mariners do not need to be only union members. But the ship must be built and flagged US.

    Yes there can be a partial waiver. But then again what foreign marine assets are we talking about here? Why do we need them? Can some one tell me why we need foreign assets near shore or coastal?

    Now out in the OCS no Jones Act applies so… You can have what ever flag you want out there. For example the Discover Deep Seas was built in Spain and flagged the Marshall Islands. The Horizon was built in South Korea and also flagged the Marshall Islands.

    Now here is another boondoggle question. Of all of the flags of convenience countries on this planet. Why flag a ship or a MODU in the Marshall Islands? 

    Anyone know?

    Now lets do some real factual research and see who can win the “Captain Jack Sparrow Award For Brilliance” and answer a question that the MSM nor those I D I O T S in Congress have even thought of asking or investigating for that matter.

  • arabella trefoil

    What is this “life” of which you speak, Captain Jack?

    Do you live on a boat? I always thought it would be cool to live on a boat. I grew up on Long Island Sound, and while my family wasn’t into sailing, a lot my friends families were. I loved it.

    As it turned out, my husband (who I didn’t meet until I was 30) also grew up on Long Island Sound. His family was seriously into sailing and took the family on vacations up and down the east coast. My husband hate hate hated it. He felt like an impressed sailor in the War of 1812.

    There are people around here who live on boats for part of the year, but not as many as there used to be.

  • Captain Jack Sparrow

    NLBIB

    No consequences eh? No we have the act for the fuck of it!  Now your a Admiralty Lawyer too? You stupid fuck! Of course there is a legal consequence.

    So hotshot…. tell me….

    WHAT IS THE NEED TO WAIVE THE ACT NEAR SHORE AND COASTAL RIGHT NOW? Here are a couple of more questions for you shithead.

    1. Numbers of ships requesting waivers and their capabilities?
    2. What is the advantage of these ships over the US Flagged ones?
    3. What special interest is asking for the waiver and what is their gain?

    During Katrina and Rita is fact is that the benefits of waiving the act were small. Basically the only things that the waiver did and it was a short term waiver was getting badly needed fuel into southern ports a few days earlier.
    Other than that there was little benefit. Out in the OCS we are using all flagged assets. That is where the main part of the spill still is.

    And you a Licensed Captain? Of what? A barrel raft? Take that “boat” of yours and go sail it into the sunset.  Boat Captains got to love’em.  Shit… The difference between a boat and a ship? You can take a boat and put it onto a ship.

    Now if the spill gets worse and more skimmers are needs near shore and coastal then maybe….. But that needs to be done judicially.

    Otherwise this is a smoke issue….. Nothing more than a bloody political smoke issue…..

  • Captain Jack Sparrow

    Honestlawermostly

    “If the Jones Act is waived, would that waiver apply to US vessels as well as foreign vessels so that American or legally resident workers would lose the protection of the statute?” 

    No the US Flagged vessel is still protected. This is basically a industry protection law. Unions, Mariners, Yards, Shipowners…..One last thing here counselor and what no one is really mentioning here. We are talking coastal trade.

    Outside 3 miles all is fine….. What I would like to now from the peanut gallery here at NQ is why we need foreign assets coastal? Hell bring in the foreigns and get all US Flagged ships near shore and coastal. What is the big deal here besides bitching about Obama?

  • Captain Jack Sparrow

    Honest!

    Let me give you a real time problem with a Jones Act Waiver. There are many OSROs (spill contractors) who want to respond here in the states but cannot get the federally mandated insurance under the OPA 90 Act. So rather than BP paying the insurance as a cost of doing business for the contractors. What do we want to do? Waive the Jones Act and let in foreign corporations over US companies near shore and coastal.

    Good Idea….eh?