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Now Mexico Is Suing Arizona?

Okay, I am just shaking my head in disbelief at this, but it is, in fact, true. Yes, now Mexico is suing Arizona for having the audacity to try and protect its borders from illegal aliens. Oh, that’s not how they phrase it – they just don’t want their citizens to be asked for any identification when they cross the border into the United State, like every other country in the world, INCLUDING MEXICO, does when someone tries to enter the country. And yes, that is a bit of snark. Sorry, but this is just freaking lunacy.

Bear in mind, as you read this AP article, that Mexico has far, far more Draconian laws than the US would ever even dream of having, yet they are trying to tell one of OUR states how to protect its border from. Suffice it to say, if you are caught being in Mexico illegally, you are in for a world of hurt. And that is what makes this so rich:

Mexico Asks Court To Reject Ariz. Immigration Law

Mexico on Tuesday asked a federal court in Arizona to declare the state’s new immigration law unconstitutional, arguing that the country’s own interests and its citizens’ rights are at stake.

Lawyers for Mexico on Tuesday submitted a legal brief in support of one of five lawsuits challenging the law. The law will take effect July 29 unless implementation is blocked by a court.

The law generally requires police investigating another incident or crime to ask people about their immigration status if there’s a “reasonable suspicion” they’re in the country illegally. It also makes being in Arizona illegally a misdemeanor, and it prohibits seeking day-labor work along the state’s streets.

Citing “grave concerns,” Mexico said its interest in having predictable, consistent relations with the United States shouldn’t be frustrated by one U.S. state.

Mexico also said it has a legitimate interest in defending its citizens’ rights and that the law would lead to racial profiling, hinder trade and tourism, and strain the countries’ work on combatting drug trafficking and related violence.

“Mexican citizens will be afraid to visit Arizona for work or pleasure out of concern that they will be subject to unlawful police scrutiny and detention,” the brief said.

It will be to a U.S. District Court judge to decide whether to accept the brief along with similar ones submitted by various U.S. organizations.

Hold the phone. Mexican citizens “will be afraid to visit Arizona for work or pleasure” because they might be asked for their ID if they commit another crime for which they are stopped? If they are in the country legally, and have a legal right to be working in the United States, why would they be afraid?? Good grief. How is it possible people can get this far in life with logic like this (if it can be called “logic,” that is).

Hopefully, the US District Court will not allow another nation to interfere into a US state law. Oh, and it would have been nice if someone had mentioned this to the governor:

Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer, who signed the law on April 23 and changes to it on April 30, has lawyers defending it in court.

In a statement issued late Tuesday, Brewer said she was “very disappointed” to learn of Mexico’s filing and reiterated that “Arizona’s immigration enforcement laws are both reasonable and constitutional.”

“I believe that Arizona will ultimately prevail and that our laws will be found constitutional,” Brewer added.

Brewer and other supporters of the bill say the law is intended to pressure illegal immigrants to leave the United States. They contend it is a needed response to federal inaction over what they say is a porous border and social problems caused by illegal immigration. They also argue that it has protections against racial profiling.

Mexican officials previously had voiced opposition to the Arizona law, with President Felipe Calderon saying June 8 that the law “opens a Pandora’s box of the worst abuses in the history of humanity” by promoting racial profiling and potentially leading to an authoritarian society.

Calderon voiced similar criticism of the law during a May visit to Washington.

U.S. officials have said the Obama administration has serious concerns about the law and may challenge it in court. Secretary of State Hilary Clinton recently went further by saying a lawsuit is planned.

Okay, maybe it’s because I’m getting over being sick, or having an almost 6 year old here for the week and I am, well, let’s say, not young, or both. But my response to this is, “Bite me” to Mexico. The law in Arizona does not violate human rights, does not violate Federal law, since that law requires ALL persons from other countries here legally to carry papers stating as much for 70 years now, and only comes into play when a violation of one sort or another has been committed (not, as Obama stupidly claimed, when a family merely goes out for ice cream).

And honestly, if they are going to go after Arizona, they should go after California, too, since they have some mighty strict laws about immigration themselves. Just saying.

Or, maybe they should treat their citizens better so they aren’t trying to get into the United States illegally (again, almost 60% of illegal immigrants in the US are from Mexico, so I am not picking on them, but stating a fact. And ya don’t hear the Canadian government threatening to sue, do ya? Nope.). Maybe they should work to make their border less porous, too, instead of making the US do the lion’s share to keep their citizens out. Maybe they should just shut the hell up already since they are not bearing the tremendous cost to land, life, and finances that the US is bearing (you won’t even believe what the US Dept. of the Interior is charging the U.S. Border Patrol – you read that right – for “environmental costs” to the border. I am not making this up. Try $50 million dollars. Yup.). Instead of going after one of our states, focusing on the speck in the eye of another, Mexico should focus on the plank in its own eye, to use a biblical metaphor.

What do you think?

  • Sassy

    Check out this avatar!
    Amy, you think you are sick, look what my anger has done to my testosterone levels!

  • oowawa

    I think Jan Brewer had best surrender the state of Arizona right now!  They’ve got her surrounded!

  • tango

    This is what gets me from what Calderon said:

    “that the law “opens a Pandora’s box of the worst abuses in the history of humanity”

    Oh yah, the Arizona law is right up there with abuses like the tens of millions of people killed in extermination (labor) camps in Poland/German, China and Russia in the past hundred years.  That’s abuse Calderon.  Being asked for ID when you’re pulled over for speeding or investigated for beating your wife is not abuse.  Getting sent to await deportation in a holding center where you have free internet access, weekend continental breakfast buffets, English lessons, bingo and dance classes & 12 hour daily visitation periods is not abuse.  Being transported via air conditioned airplanes or buses back home is not abuse.  Hell that’s better conditions then I had when I was in military basic training!  

    And still President Pantywaist lets this happen without a word of support for Arizona or America.  Totally unforgivable

  • Sandy

    I think you are absolutely right . How would Mexican law deal with us if we crossed their borders illegally and took their jobs,kidnapped citizens, and dealt in drugs? I think we all know the answer to that one. BTW, I heard on the news this morning that several other states are considering laws like Arizona have put in place, including my state of PA. One can only hope!!!

  • Craig Della Penna

    This is what you get when you go on a “World Apology Tour”, and spend your time partying and shootin’ hoops while an environmental and economic catastrophe unfolds. This is what you get when you vacillate and duck responsibility time after time after time, this is what you get when you can’t tell show from substance and your only real audience is in the mirror, this is what you get…
    You get every crackpot theocrat, faux socialist tyrant, psychopathic hereditary clown, tinpot dictator and right wing, election-stealing thug (paging Sn. Calderon) lining up to piss on your shoes.

    Nice work Mr. Obama – beginning to look like it’s time to retire, doesn’t it?  Maybe you can get your ‘life back’ too…

  • oowawa

    This is really a chance for Thee One to emulate Reagan’s finest moment: he brings his teleprompters to a section of the border fence in Arizona that has been completed, and after an inspiring speech on Hope and the Rights of All Men to Live Together in Harmony Without Fear of Profiling or Harrassment because of Race, Creed, or Nationality, concludes with these words:

    “Madam Governor!  Tear Down This Wall!”  (thunderous applause. posing with chin in the air)

  • betty

    The citizens of the United States are under attack and we have no one to defend us, but the people of AZ.  I think we should all plan on taking our vacations in AZ to show solidarity with our fellow Americans.  

    Is it because the corporatist must be so close to closing the deal on our democracy that they are being so blatant. 

    Who is in control of of:
    Coast Guard – no one can walk on public beaches or take pictures of the damage done to our shores.
    FAA – no one can fly a small airplane over the spill and report to us what is really going on.
    Coast Guard – can’t send barges out to siphon the spill before it gets to fragile wet lands along our coast.
    Fish and Wild life – can’t make sand berms to hold back the ugly stuff from fragile wet lands along our coast.
    Some Federal Park Commission – areas that in AZ  made off limits to American citizens to  effectively form a free zone for smugglers and human traffickers. 
    WH  – although there are over 2000 oil skimmers in the USA only 20 or so are allowed to work in the Gulf. Reason – there might be needed in a spill.
    WH – taking the state of AZ to court to maintain an unconstitutional open border with a foreign nation.
    WH – fighting to maintain a economically devastating moratorium on oil production rather then simply enforcing inspection immediately after bp’s disaster.

    I imagine if we were in LA or any of the states along the coast we could come up with a lot more of these examples of good people who just want to protect our shores being thwarted by the people in charge.  And two people killed down there yesterday make me even more suspicious.  But like I said above the noose must already be tight around our necks for them to break cover so blatently.

  • helenk

    After tomorrow night I will be retired again. One of my first things to do is to go to Arizona on a shopping trip.
    A state that upholds the sovereignty of the United States of America deserves to be supported.
    Can you imagine how great this country would be with Hillary, Sarah, and Jan in charge. They have more testicular fortitude and love for this country than anyone in congress or the excutive branch does at this time.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE CHATTERING PEOPLE RULE

  • sowsear

    BO is just building more Chaos day by day…and he throws in a little class warfare, ethnic warfare, and racial warfare to keep things boiling.

  • Peggy Sue

    This present Administration has lost control of everything, including the message: to protect the safety and welfare of American citizens.

    I don’t give a flying flip what Mexico thinks.  They have enough problems of their own to address without criticizing one of our states trying to cleanup after them.  If they’re so concerned about the safety of their own citizens, why don’t they assist in protecting the border that we share?  Hummmm.  Probably has to do with that $1billion dollars per year slipping into Mexico via the undocumented worker situation.

    Tell me this isn’t a purposeful dereliction of duty on the part of the Feds.  They have to know what’s going on in Arizona, yet they continue to turn this into a civil rights issue.  Strange that Americans are second in line for consideration.

    Again, there’s more than meets the eye on this question.  Thanks for the post, Amy.

  • kenoshamarge

    Calderon’s got some damn big cajones talking about anything that is happening in this country considering the problems in his own.

    “Worst abuses in the history of humanity”? Perhaps El Presidente Calderon had best lay off the tequilla.

    I’d like to add that I am in perfect agreement with you RRRA, he can “bite me”!

  • sowsear

    Hold the phone. Mexican citizens “will be afraid to visit Arizona for work or pleasure” because they might be asked for their ID if they commit another crime for which they are stopped?

    Let them stay home and build a shining tower of their own country.

  • Justine

    So, what standing does Mexico have to bring a lawsuit against Arizona laws?
    .

  • Diana L. C.

    I’m speechless—THIS IS THE MOST ABSURD THING I’VE READ IN A LONG TIME! 

    We should countersue.  I think we should warn all the Americans who have timeshares in Mexico that they are in grave danger of being racially profiled when they enter Mexico.  We should institue a boycott on future honeymoons and vacations in Mexico. 

  • mamamia123

    Government of Mexico is going way to far!!! If Obama do what they want, He will go down in 2012 a big time!!!!!Since when Mexico have right to tell US Americans what we should do with illegals. I am so angry and we all should . It is time to start supporting Governor of  ARIZONA and start spending OUR money there. This State if beautiful so many thing to see, people are friendly. Now we have two more states with same law as Arizona like ;Nebraska and I think Oklahoma??? Next is Colorado,N.Mexico,Texas and California must fallow!!! after that the whole USA must be united and fallow Arizona!!! Not next year but NOW!!!. As we can see, we must have bigger Government because we must hire mire people to defend OUR Country!!!! Legal emaigrants must understand that we have nothing against them. We are all in this and must stick together!!!

  • HARP

    Palin is looking more and more viable.  At least we know she has standards to live by.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    LOL, oh, dear, Sassy…It is pretty maddening, though, isn’t it?

  • oowawa

    Oh Sassy, I think I liked the sweet little girl avatar better . . .

  • honestlawyermostly

    Rev. Amy—–Thanks for this most important post, not just for us in border states, but for all Americans.
    If  illegally dumping their population into our country is not enough, here’s what else Mexico does to us down here:
    Every year they burn thousands of acres of their crops…which causes pollution and allergy problems for many in our area (Austin and east of Austin).
     In the winter, they burn tires, also….which really causes severe allergy problems and pollution. You can actually see the “haze” in the air and we’re over 240 miles away from Laredo.
    Really, it’s like they’re trying to KILL us here in Texas….and this is the thanks we get? They’re going to start suing states??
    My family and I  no longer buy Mexican produce and other products—-our daughter and son-in-law have a large garden at their ranch…and we supplement with other local sellers. Our grocery store only sells Mexican produce, primarily,with some Canadian produce mixed in. and occasionally Californian.  All of the tomatoes in the grocery store are from Mexico, except one brand which is from Canada. We only buy the Canadian (Oh, Canada!)
    Mexico can kiss our gringo asses.

  • guest

    Since according to Amnesty International, Mexico has one of the world’s worst records when it comes to their treatment of illegal immigrants, Mexico’s complaining about our laws is farsical, at best.

    Mexico is suing because they are afraid they will lose all the money being sent to them from their “citizens.”

  • Cindy

    Rev. Amy—–Thanks for this most important post, not just for us in border states, but for all Americans.  
    If  illegally dumping their population into our country is not enough, here’s what else Mexico does to us down here:  
    Every year they burn thousands of acres of their crops…which causes pollution and allergy problems for many in our area (Austin and east of Austin).  
     In the winter, they burn tires, also….which really causes severe allergy problems and pollution. You can actually see the “haze” in the air and we’re over 240 miles away from Laredo.  
    Really, it’s like they’re trying to KILL us here in Texas….and this is the thanks we get? They’re going to start suing states??  
    My family and I  no longer buy Mexican produce and other products—-our daughter and son-in-law have a large garden at their ranch…and we supplement with other local sellers. Our grocery store only sells Mexican produce, primarily,with some Canadian produce mixed in. and occasionally Californian.  All of the tomatoes in the grocery store are from Mexico, except one brand which is from Canada. We only buy the Canadian (Oh, Canada!)  Well, Mexico can kiss our gringo asses!

  • mamamia123

    Arizona time to sue Mexico!!! Go Ms.Brewer SUE them!!!!

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Tango, what an AWESOME comment!  Thanks for putting it in perspective.  Yeah, such “abusive” conditions those bingo games and dance classes are…

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Craig, Craig, Craig – I think you are unfairly characterizing Obama.  He’s been hitting the LINKS more than the b’ball court these days, hasn’t he??  Ahem…

    Spot on – yes, this is what the World Apology Tour reaps…

  • My other site

    I am sick of hearing Mexicans in Mexico and the U. S. saying our government needs to do more than voice opposition to the AZ law.  They are trying to incite revolution in the U. S. to get what they want.  They are telling our federal government to override the will of the people and give Mexicans what they want.  Bottom-feeder people.  I don’t want any of them in my country.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Betty, outstanding comment – thanks for laying it all out there.  I fear you are right, though, and that scares the bejesus out of me…

    Helenk, I hope your retirement is a good one for you (as in, that it is planned by you, and not being retired, if you know what I mean).

    My partner is in AZ right now on business.  I think she is happy to be supporting them down there (and she told me she drove right past Sne. Kyl’s office).  They do indeed deserve our support, but honestly, waiting for the winter when it isn’t over 105 degrees might be good!  8-)

  • My other site

    What about the abuses of Central American migrants into Mexico who are routinely murdered in cold blood and raped?  Seriously, Mexicans are reprobated people.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Exactly, Peggy Sue.  They are surely reapong benefits from their citizens coming here and sending money back home.  Money not going back into OUR economy, that is.

    And yes, I think it is a dereliction of duty, absolutely!

  • Cindy

    MyOther Site——–I’m with you…. I do not want any illegal alien  from any  country, anywhere, at any time in our country.

  • My other site

    The whole root of this problem is Obama siding with foreign people against the American citizens he’s supposed to be representing.  The CEOs and churches are stupid, but they only emulating Obama.  They wouldn’t be demanding amnesty if Obama weren’t leading the way.  This guy so needs to be impeached.  Look for an assault on the polls in November.  These people know if we get a Republican majority, Obama is toast.

  • Breeze

    -

    THAT’S IT, CINDY:

    LET’S BOYCOT MEXICAN GOODS!!

    THAT CERTAINLY WILL SEND A MESSAGE TO MR. CALDERON!!!

  • My other site

    BEtty, add to that:  WH protecting Mexican drug cartels instead of American citizens.

  • sowsear

    They do indeed deserve our support, but honestly, waiting for the winter when it isn’t over 105 degrees might be good!  8-)
    That was my first thought and the second one was that we should stay away from Phoenix and any other city supporting open borders.

  • My other site

    It’s probably an amicus brief.  Don’t know the legalities.  If they are actually trying to sue and not just support a suit, I doubt they have authority to do that.

  • sowsear

    AZ probably would like to sue Mexico(and our own government) but they shouldn’t have to.  Going to court is long and expensive. Meanwhile the wolves are at the door.

  • Cindy

    Breeze—-and it’s incredibly hard to find products and produce in Texas that are NOT from Mexico.

  • helenk

    I was thinking about past presidents of this country. During the war of 1812 the British burned the White House. Dolly Madison saved many artifacts that show part of the history of this country.
    If it were to happen today and we were invaded Backtrack would hand them the match to burn down the house and meecheele would be gathering the artifacts to sell at a later date.
    It is not a good time for this country. But many have been awakened and will do all in their power to help return this country into one of the greatest countries in the world.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE CHATTERING PEOPLE RULE

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Judge rejects GOVT bid to keep drilling ban alive!

  • ~~JustMe~~

    On their own money!

  • sowsear

    illegal aliens!!!!

    None, None, None, that’s simple English.

  • helenk

    I was retired and my old boss called me back to set up a department for the company who got the contract . Now we no longer have the contract and I can not work for the company that got it as I retired from them.
    The job lasted longer than I thought it would. I have no complaints. I had fun, got paid  worked with great people and got many things done in my house.

    In September I am going to fly to Portland Ore, take the train to Seattle, then the train accross the top of the country to Chicago. I have never seen that part of the country. Then I will take the train to New York and down to Philadelphia. I will spend some time with my daughters. Then a train to Florida and spend some time with my son.
    Then from Florida to New Orleans and then a train from New Orleans to Los Angles. I have never seen the southern part of the US from New Orleans across to LA.
    We have a great ,beautiful , and deversived country and I am lucky enough to have the opportunity to see most of it.
    I have been up and down both coasts and through the middle and met people from all over the world on the trains,  now I can see the rest of it.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE  CHATTERING  PEOPLE RULE

  • ~~JustMe~~

    With their OWN money!

  • FLDemFem

    The judge in the Mexico case should definitely try to keep a straight face as he dismisses the case on the grounds that a foreign country has no standing to sue a state of the United States for a law that has been passed and signed by the governor. And he should point out that the law in AZ is much more restrictive than the Federal law. Perhaps Calderon can sue his buddy, Obama. Sheeesh..these people!!

  • Samb

    Mexico, needs to work on there own shit. 
    Work on your own economic issues.
    Create educational programs.
    Work on your own GDP.
    Teach your young people to just say NO.
    Clean up and clean out your own drug issues
    and don’t sue America and then want us
    to spend our tourist dollars there.
    America is not racist, because we want to
    keep our boarders safe, we are hard working
    people, our history is rich and we have
    embraced many people from many places.
    Mexico wants this to be about America.
    Mexico needs to stop playing the victim and
    work on your own country and take pride in it.
    Stop feeding off of us

    We are a country of laws and those laws need
    to be respected. 

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Keep the Dollars on this side of the border where they belong supporting our own citizens!

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Maybe they need to hear this loud and clear ADIOS!

  • Breeze

    -

    THAT FACT MAKES ME ADMIRE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY ALL THE MORE!!!

    Thankfully, the rest of us have more choices and, let us NOT forget

    MONEY TALKS

    - especially for the greedy likes of Calderon & his Mexican elites (God, I hate that word!)

  • Breeze

    -

    O/T

    Obama’s ally ousted as Aussie PM

    American Thinker,
    by Thomas Lifson   

    Original Article

    6/24/2010

    President Obama’s endorsement is proving to be a political kiss of death overseas as well as at home (ask Arlen Specter about the value of an Obama endorsement). Barack Obama publicly acknowledged two months ago that Kevin Rudd, just ignominiously ousted by his own party as Prime Minister of Australia, was politically a great match for him. From the Sydney Morning Herald in April: “Kevin is somebody [with whom] I probably share as much of a world view as any world leader out there. I find him smart, but humble,” he told ABC Television’s 7.30 Report.

  • EllenD

    You get every crackpot theocrat, faux socialist tyrant, psychopathic hereditary clown, tinpot dictator and right wing, election-stealing thug (paging Sn. Calderon) lining up to piss on your shoes.

    Do you think we could charge people to do that? It might help our economic situation. We could make mounted full sized photos of Obama with shiny black shoes sticking out and sell tickets.
    Only really works for men tho. Oh well. Back literally to the drawing board.

  • helenk

    to ALL ILLEGAL immigrants

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    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE CHATTERING PEOPLE RULE

  • Breeze

    -
    Judge refuses to delay  
    ruling on Gulf drilling ban
     
     
    Associated Press,  
    by Staff     
     
    Original Article  
     
    6/24/2010  
     
    NEW ORLEANS – A federal judge in New Orleans has refused to delay his decision to strike down a six-month moratorium on deepwater drilling imposed after the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. The Justice Department had asked U.S. District Judge Martin Feldman to stay his ruling while it appeals to the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. Feldman rejected that request Thursday. Two days earlier, he struck down the Interior Department’s decision to halt approval of new permits for deepwater projects and suspend drilling on 33 exploratory wells.

  • EllenD

    Well, Mexico is going to need an American Law Firm. A BIG EXPENSIVE ONE. And this type of work could take a long time and lots of billable hours. Where are they going to file? May I recommend a Federal Court in a state that needs the money.
    I feel the same with Meg and Carly. Spend it all, girls, we need the money!

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Hey, Helen do you need me on your wonderful journey around America to assist you? I can always stay in the background and carry your cases! ;)
    Have an awesome time you truly deserve it!

  • EllenD

    Well, I personally think retirees are NUTS to retire in Mexico, not matter how cheap it is.
    That American Retirees in Mexico situation is a disaster just waiting to happen.

  • My other site

    We were in AZ end of May.  It was beautiful, a couple days the high was 79!  Scottsdale looked great (businesses use E-Verify) Phoenix not so much, except for around the AZ Biltmore community.  

  • EllenD

    During the war of 1812 the British burned the White House.

    Yes, Helen, the British/Canadians burned the White House in retaliation AFTER the Americans burned the Canadian capital at York (Toronto).
    But now we are all buddies and Cindy buys Canadian tomatoes. :)

  • My other site

    Love it!

  • Dave

    I’ve said it before, Border Patrol needs to be taking these asshole illegals and droping them off in front of the White House and Nancy (botox) Pelosi’s house.  I think Brewer needs to let Sherriff Joe build tent city prisons all along the SW Arizona border.  The first time the illegal is caught, he or she gets one year in jail, if they can’t send money home, they ain’t comming across. The second time they are caught, five years with a ball and chain on their leg, picking lettuce in the Yuma fields.

  • Cindy

    EllenD—A couple of years ago, when I was still singing in nursing homes, one of the patients was a retired and renowned Univ. of Texas professor. He was bedridden, and couldn’t leave his room…so I took my little battery-operated keyboard into his room every week and played and sang “Oh, Canada”. He would sit tall in his bed as tears filled his eyes. Then he’d salute me when I had finished the anthem. His death hit me very hard. I miss singing that gorgeous national anthem, and I miss my dear Canadian friend!

  • jwrjr

    Outstanding.  Of course now the Obama Monarchy wll shift the smear campaign against Judge Feldman into high gear.

  • Cindy

    helenk and ~JustMe~—-y’all honk the train horn when you pass through Texas!

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Oh God, don’t let us get into another war!!! I have been trying to save some Brits on another thread NOW I’d have to choose between stopping “O” with the match or going to AZ to help on the border. One can only be in one place at a time and Mother Teresa has to have some sleep very occasionally too. However I have my backpack at the ready just send orders which direction I have to go.  ;) Cindy, throw some tomatoes, this way at least I can carry some food! :)

  • Cindy

    It’s probably an amicus brief

    Or, in this case, an amigos brief!

  • Cindy

    honestlawyermostly is in Houston today, so I’m “home alone” and wingin’ it, as far as legal remarks :)

  • goldengrahme

    And the worst, most pathetic twist will be that our own gov will side with the poor oppressed illegals who wonder over to collect their monthly welfare checks from the USA. Or drop in to birth a baby for free.

    Nice work if you can get it.

    All this is in line with current trends to self-implode. 

  • Cindy

    ~JustMe~~ you are a riot!

     Cindy, throw some tomatoes, this way

    If i may reference one of our previous thread conversations…should I throw “Tomahtoes or  “tomaaatoes” ??! :-D

  • Craig Della Penna

    Hmmm…. hadn’t considered the women’s POV, on the other hand all my references are male (not men)…

  • goldengrahme

    Brilliant concept with a hint of satire, oowa.  My kind of thinking. lol

  • Cindy

    ~JustMe~~ you are a riot! 
     
    “ Cindy, throw some tomatoes, this way ”
     
    If i may reference one of our previous thread conversations…should I throw “Tomahtoes or  “tomaaatoes” ??! :-D

  • Cindy

    Brreze–Thank you for your kind remark.

  • elizabethrc

    We need to remember that Mexico’s leaders all seem to have majored in Stupid in college, assuming that they even attended one.

    Personally, I am waiting for someone in a position of high authority (and of course, that wouldn’t be Obama) to publicly call these clowns on the hypocrisy and then suggest in deliciously obscene terms that they butt out of America’s politics.

    Obama is being left behind by America and he doesn’t even realize it…can’t realize that there is anyone who doesn’t bow before his Preciousness.  Good for each state that does to illegals what Obama is too cowardly and too biased against America to do.

  • sowsear

    I’m afraid CA is on the wrong side of this one…

  • helenk

    JUST ME

    You are more than welcome to come along. All are welcoeme. We can party our way around this beautiful country.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE CHATTERING PEOPLE RULE

  • sowsear

    Also the vacationers…

  • Samb
  • helenk

    I am glad to have Canada as a friend. We may need Canada as a place of refuge soon. My son-in law’s nephew is in the British army fighting for us in Afghanistan. His sister has two sons and is married to a brit. One son born here is US the other born in England. The one born in the US is in the British Army.
    We are in a period where our biggest enemy is in the white house.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE CHATTERING  PEOPLE RULE

  • Samb

    BECK INTERVIEWING – JOE ARPAIO

  • Breeze

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    HELP!

    My techie skills are non-existant, so I will need someone to unrevel this item,
    which I ‘borrowed’ from Hillbuzz.

    Let’s see how it comes out.  It sounds MOST interesting…..

    MOmom Says:
    June 24, 2010 at 7:59 am

    I don’t normally watch CNN, but I caught Anderson Cooper last night when he did a phone interview with a Louisiana Parish President, Billy N., about the oil spill. The guy just blasts Obama’s administration and compares thoughts Louisianans have to those the military must have about Obama. It is an awesome condemnation of Obama’s total lack of understanding, done like I have not seen before on TV. And cooper seemed shocked, but didn’t stop his rant.

    GracieD Says:
    June 24, 2010 at 8:28 am

    Mais Oui Billy!!! That is what you call a Cajun telling it like it is! Billy is well known for rarely having an unspoken opinion. He is a straight shooter. I wonder if Zippy is listening?
    Bijou Says:
    June 24, 2010 at 9:20 am

    Great. Mr. Nungesser is correct when he says that the POTUS doesn’t see what’s going on.
    i.e. that General McChrystal’s feelings are widespread in the military, and that the people directly affected by the oil spill are realizing that they’re getting nothing but a runaround.
    Wussy Cooper didn’t have a clue how to react.

    Cali~Gal Says:

    June 24, 2010 at 9:54 am

    Right-on for Billy,,, I honestly believe that Obama and his thug regime administration are turning a blind eye on this spill. By way of AKA: GEORGE SOROS. The mishandling of this disaster is so unnecessary will all the resources out there, other’s country’s reaching-out etc. it make’s no sense and directly point’s to sabotage from our own government. It’s just “too-mishandled” to look like shear incompetence on the part of Obama. They’re not hiding-it very well, his dislike for this country, “the ONE” and only liar and chief..”

    robert c Says:
    June 24, 2010 at 10:15 am

    Obama is at a crossroads in his presidency. His bureaucrats, admins, czars, etc are too busy doing their own thing, positioning themselves, and trying to cover his arse to make him look good rather than getting things done. Reactions like this and the situation with the general have a cascade type affect that either need to be addressed with successful action from the top, or they will snowball into a force of their own causing executive stupor. Obama doesn’t have the management skills to right the situation. It really looks like Obama was the worse possible person selected for the most important job and the most crucial time.

  • kenoshamarge

    How about we sue Mexico for sending us their poor and unemployed. We have enough of our own. And by the time Oblahblah, Pelosi and Reid are finished, soon please God, we’ll have a lot more.

  • Breeze

    WOW, IT CAME THROUGH….

    GREAT!!!

  • TeakWoodKite
  • Samb

    re- Breeze
    My techie skills aren’t so good as well. Good interview.

  • Annie/Carmel

    Well that is good news!  I don’t think we need any more Mexican law breakers on our side of the border…so thanks Calderone!  Afraid of a traffic ticket?  Then I would assume that what they really fear is being found to be here illegally. 

  • Annie/Carmel

    I saw one of those “House Hunters International” programs last week…a re-run about a Marin County “artist” moving down there with her teenage daughter…bought an adobe ruin for $60k, renovated for another $75k and planned to make it home forever.  I hope she rented out her house in Corte Madera because I’m guessing she’ll need it again…soon.

  • Annie/Carmel

    Legal immigrants know that.  They especially despise the illegals…do you have any idea how much it costs to be legal?  Green Card is $1,000, plus lawyer fees, plus, plus, plus.  I learned yesterday that ICE is funded completely from fees they collect.  Thankfully, our addition to the family has passed with flying colors…all papers and documents in place.  Will have no problem carrying ID…proud to do so in fact. 

    And I have no problem paying through the nose for legal status…we’re worth it.  Too bad the Mexicans don’t feel the same.  They are strictly opportunists who don’t like us and either want to take our land from us or, make their money, send remittances home until there’s enough to retire back to Mexico…probably in one of those renovated houses done by former American emigres.

  • Annie/Carmel

    Yes, billions.

  • Docelder

    Well, here is how things are in Mexico. Here is the Mexican army patrol on the streets of Mexico. Doesn’t make anybody want to vacation there does it? But maybe this is what Barky wants. Besides the fatigues part… throw in some purple shirts and keep the guns and body armor of course. Yes, this could keep the people from protesting. We don’t know what is good for us anyway.

  • getfitnow

    Well as I asked on another thread –Do the pro active governors of the Gulf states have to gear up for federal law suits against them? :(

  • Breeze

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    Thanks, Teak.

    A real MUST READ!!!

  • Annie/Carmel

    I buy most of my fresh produce at our local Farmers Market and I will not buy from the Mexicans there.  Many are Japanese (Nakonami) and Italian (Mirazzoli) farmers in CA F. Markets.  #1 I don’t trust their produce and, #2 they can go take a flying leap off the nearest bridge as far as I’m concerned.

  • getfitnow

    Where is Gen. Honore?? >:o

  • getfitnow

    Where is Gen Honore? >:o

  • Annie/Carmel

    In the meantime, Mexican multi-billionaire and the world’s richist man, Carlos Slim has bought an estate in Pebble Beach.  Wonder if he’ll save a bundle on security forces?

  • Annie/Carmel

    In the meantime, Mexican multi-billionaire and the world’s richest man, Carlos Slim has bought an estate in Pebble Beach.  Wonder if he’ll save a bundle on security forces?

  • getfitnow

    Yes, but I smell change in CA’s air:

  • getfitnow

    …and principles to stand by, no matter what.

  • Cindy

    Should have stated that the professor was a native of Canada….but I’m sure y’all figured that out.

  • My Site (click to edit)

    Lovely story.

  • stodghie

    calderon is desperate like obama. the main difference is calderon is a conservative.  he inherited the mess he has in mexico from fox who did NADA to rein in the drug cartels. that is calderon’s big problem. also the business climate in mexico sucks. i get emails from friends to that affect quite a bit now. so calderon looks for a diversion. ahhh immigration. sounds good to him! i adivise all to hope that calderdon is succesful in mexico. he is actually brave and risking his life with the cartels. not so with fox. the other side of the coin down there politically is a total nut job. he is a wanna leftist buddy for castro. considering the wack job we have now as potus, the thought of two wack jobs makes me grow cold just thinking about it.

    now the idea of suing arizona is disgusting beyond thought. the nerve! the above comment speaks to political calculation behind it.

  • stodghie

    CRAIG, LET’S GET CLEAR ON THIS. CALDERON DID NOT STEAL THE DAMN ELECTION. HE WON IT. THE OTHER NUT JOB DOWN THERE IS A DANGEROUS NUT JOB WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE CASTRO’S LITTLE BUDDY. GEEZ, GET REAL. I DON’T LIKE OR APPROVE OF CALDERON’S LITTLE PLOY AND GAME HERE AT ALL. MAKES ME MAD AS HELL. BUT I THINK BEYOND THAT AND NOTE THE CALCULATIONS BEHIND IT.

  • My Site (click to edit)

    Is that Taz?  I love that guy!

  • stodghie

    here in houston we just got rid of an idiot who made us a sanctuary city. bill white is the name! he actually thinks he can defeat perry for governor of texas. duh! bill left us in debt and with the burden of katrina evauacees who still want free housing and large numbers of illegal residents who flood our hosptials and got sanctuary from a mayor who was more concerned about his political future than houston’s.

  • helenk

    i am about to rant big time.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/24/arizona-dem-accuses-federal-agencies-nixing-conventions-immigration-law/

    Since the federal government no longer has any interest in protecting our borders
    The education department uses the Wm Ayers brand of teaching  and half our kids can not read all tax money should  be withheld from them.

    The border patrol officers put their life on the line every day and get called out for stopping drug and people smugglers and their bosses bureaucratic idiots say boycott Arizona. Screw the bosses

    take the money that is taken by the federal government and used to help backtrack’s freinds and spend it  in Arizona where they uphold the sovereignty of the United States.
    Arizona is doing a hell of a lot more to protect the people of this country than the federal government is.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE CHATTERING PEOPLE RULE

  • stodghie

    yes calderon has a real mess down there. the cartels are the worst part. if columbia can do it so can mexico. however that is no excuse to politicize  this border issue.

    let me add this let’s pray calderon is successful. the other side of the coin is total nut job. he is dufus who closed own mexico city when he lost the vote. he really loves castro too.

  • stodghie

    let them sleep in nancy’s new sf offices where the tax payers are footing $18000 a month for rent.

  • Justine

    I wouldn’t have thought Obummer would ever use the world humble…
    .

  • stodghie

    in mexico the rich all have their own security.

  • elizabethrc

    Don’t know if it’s true, but a few days ago I read that there are actually hotels for illegals to use to have their babies in the US.  Fee?  $5,000.
    If it’s true, where’s the investigation and prosecution?

  • stodghie

    the mexican army is used in a different way in mexico. calderon is using them in the drug war. he doesn’t trust the local police and rightly so.

  • Noogan

    “Bite me” to Mexico.

    “Bite me” to Obama.

    THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Peggy Sue

    And the catastrophe is spreading.  I picked up this You Tube piece this morning, Pensacola, Fla.  Not only are the beaches being destroyed but the surf is roiling as if the water itself has been brought to a boiling point, or as the videographer states: it’s as if there’s acid in the water. 

    We are not being told the truth on this event.  After the McChrystal brouhaha and the alleged Al Gore adventure with a massage therapist, the ugliness of the Gulf fiasco is still here.  And I’m willing to bet these bastards knew from the start.

    As the vid maker says: God help us all!

  • wodiej

    More insanity that will only further fuel and energize Americans to take back their country.  Stand your ground.

  • candymarl

    I like what the one guy had to say. “It’s really the economy. I’m not sure there’s much he (Obama) can do about it”.

    If that’s true Mr. Talking head then what do we need him for?

    The stupid it burns!

  • Breeze

    -

     Breitbart.com:

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9GHPJL01&show_article=1

    Seems Judge Feldman (a Reagan appointee) refused to stay his order of Tuesday lifting the Six Month Moratorium on Drilling (in depths over 500 feet).
    Seems Salazar and Holder (read Dear Leader!!!) want Feldman to stay his order whilst the Obots shopped the 5th Circus on Appeal.

    And…in a swat that is going leave a ‘mark’ on the PuppyDogPress, Feldman has RELEASED his financial records (he was getting accused of conflicts of interest) and his records are being reviewed and will be open to the public.

  • Breeze

    -

    Breitbart.com:

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9GHPJL01&show_article=1

    Seems Judge Feldman (a Reagan appointee) refused to stay his order of Tuesday lifting the Six Month Moratorium on Drilling (in depths over 500 feet).

    Seems Salazar and Holder (read Dear Leader!!!) want Feldman to stay his order whilst the Obots shopped the 5th Circus on Appeal.

    And…in a swat that is going leave a ‘mark’ on the PuppyDogPress, Feldman has RELEASED his financial records (he was getting accused of conflicts of interest) and his records are being reviewed and will be open to the public.

  • Breeze

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    DO NOT BUY MEXICAN GOODS OR PRODUCE

  • Cindy

    stodghie—Bill White is another example of how the Texas Dems are so out of touch. He has no personality—and so they’ve put him up against prettyboy Perry. It’s like they WANT to lose, and I hope they do.
    BTW… did you go to high school in H? I went to Lamar.

  • candymarl

    Great for Calderon. But Mexico is not the USA.  Mexico has no business telling individual states of our country what laws they can or cannot pass. We fall under the US Constitution not the Constitution or laws of Mexico.

    Let Calderon clean his own house. Then, and this is iffy, and only then can he tell us how dirty ours is.

    I don’t give a rat’s ass how wonderful Calderon is. Let him run his country. We Americans will runs ours.

  • Breeze

    -

    Judge Faces Death Threats
    After BP Gulf Oil Drilling
    Moratorium Ruling

    Bayou Buzz [New Orleans, LA],
    by Jeff Crouere   

    Original Article

    6/24/2010

    New Orleans–While many Americans undoubtedly agree with the decision of U.S. District Court Judge Martin Feldman to overturn the Obama administration’s moratorium on deep water drilling, not everyone is happy. In fact, the Judge is now receiving death threats in the aftermath of his bold ruling. Last night, Feldman served as a celebrity judge at a cooking contest at a school gymnasium in Uptown New Orleans. Due to the threats, Feldman was accompanied by a federal marshal security team. It is a sad indictment of our society today that….

  • Ladydawnelle

    lmao indeed!

    Hey is that lying, fraud Richardson still in charge of New Mexico? I don’t even want to give the article my IP # it ticks me OFF sooooo much!  I can’t believe ANYONE who has EVER traveled outside the U.S. would object considering the hoops you have to jump through to enter EVERY other country on the planet!!  You are right Amy its CRAZY political what they are doing.  and then – of course – finally the OTHER side (the Red side) that I had temporarily been hanging out with FINALLY crossed the line with me.  BIG SIGN on their website today saying something about how Democrats will kill American babies but won’t join up and kill the foreign enemy – or some such nonsense – they finally crossed over and lost me…… alone again naturally!  LOL

  • ~~Justme~~

    WOW! Go Judge Feldman.
    Whilst he’s at it can he ask for “O”s documentation? Never pis* off a judge some may say!

  • candymarl

    Breeze, I’d be willing to bet some of these people are the same people saying that the Tea Partiers are dangerous.

    There will be outrage in the LSM – or not.

  • kenoshamarge

    Complete transparancy from a Judge who ruled on an important matter. Would be nice if we had the same from the CiC.

  • No Longer Banned in Beantown

    It is typical of Obama thug politics.

  • No Longer Banned in Beantown

    Let Calderon clean his own house.

    I concur

  • No Longer Banned in Beantown

    Potus knows, he just doesn’t give a shit. It interferes with his down time.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Ohmygosh, that sounds like a fantastic trip!  I love trains, and would really like to do that kind of trip some day.  You must keep us posted on what you see, the people you meet, etc.  Sounds fantastic.

    And very cool that you were brought back – says a lot abt you, HelenK!

    Oh, wow – still thinking abt your upcoming trip across the top of the country.  I am so happy you get to do this!

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    ROTFLMAO – Cindy, you are too funny.  Oh, my – thanks for the laugh.  I swear – I don’t know what I would do without you awesome folks here.  No doubt my head would explode!

    And Cindy, I am really glad your husband has joined us.  He is awesome!

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Outstanding comment, Annie.  And yes, that has been what I have heard from people who went to all the effort to come here legally.  It takes a long time, and it’s expensive, but it shouldn’t BE easy to become an American (or a citizen of any other country for that matter). 

    I know damn well I couldn’t just waltz into either Mexico or Canada without papers, job, or money and be allowed to stay.  Hell, Mexico is VERY strict abt this, and their punishment is much harsher than ours (which also makes me mad – the sheer hypocrisy makes me nuts). 

    Anyway, congratulations on the new family member, and welcome!  :)

  • jwrjr

    Maybe Obama could also release his records … ?  (Not holding my breath waiting for it.)

  • jwrjr

    Obama never said that he was humble.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Thank you, Cindy – very informative abt the burning and its effect on Texans.  I’m just shaking my head over it…

    And good thinking abt the goods.  How very fortunate that you have an alternative to getting produce (not to mention very cool that your daughter and her husband live on a ranch – wow!).  We grow lots of tomatoes in my neck of the woods – I can send you some.  :)

    Great comment.  It really helps so much to get a picture of how people across the country are affected by these issues.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Oh, Cindy – that is a lovely story.   Very touching indeed.  Thank you. 

    And what an incredible gift you gave that man.  You are amazing.

  • ~~Justme~~

    Might be sensible never to pis* off a judge. You never know what might come back and bite you in the butt!! Just sayin.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Well as I asked on another thread –Do the pro active governors of the Gulf states have to gear up for federal law suits against them?
    =================================
    When the states get good and fed up with the wannabe despot That One and his plutocratic minions, they should do what they should have done immediately after Congress passed, and Barky signed, the Deathcare Bill–demand a Constitutional Convention. I guarantee you that would have scared the arugula-stained shit out of Democrats, illegals, the slacker elite, and the moochers. They really don’t even have to go through with it–just formally call for one. The knothead democrats would run so fast from That One, it might even make him take notice.

    There are remedies available for use by the states. If they don’t use them, I really don’t want to hear any more whining.

  • Cindy

    Rev. Amy—Thank you. You are too kind….and hubby just LOVES you and your posts. We all do!

  • Cindy

    :-[ I’m really, really blushing.
    Thank you, Rev. Amy. It was an honor and my pleasure to do so.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Mexican officials previously had voiced opposition to the Arizona law, with President Felipe Calderon saying June 8 that the law “opens a Pandora’s box of the worst abuses in the history of humanity” by promoting racial profiling and potentially leading to an authoritarian society.
    ======================
    That is the most melodramatic, manipulative, and maudlin statement I’ve ever heard from a politician and THAT is saying something. Calderon needs to get his own shitty country in order prior to making pronouncements about ours. At least this country is only currently and temporarily being run by home-grown Chicago criminals and not drug cartels as Mexico has for the last 30 years. That smug fucker has no room to say any damn thing.

  • helenk

    if a convoy of tanker trucks loaded with the oil spilled gulf water went to the White House and dumped their loads on the lawn, did you think this dipshit would understand then?

    Hitler almost destroyed Germany by his actions. Backtrack with his lack of action on the oil spill, his lack of defending our border is trying his damnest to destroy this country.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE PEOPLE RULE

  • Ferd Berfle

    the mexican army is used in a different way in mexico. calderon is using them in the drug war. he doesn’t trust the local police and rightly so.
    =====================
    The problem is that they’re all on the druglord’s payroll south of the border. Mexico is a failing country and we need to be ready. Several remedies formerly available to us, such as taking money out of the cartel’s pockets by legalizing pot here, are no longer available. The Mexican President knows this; I assume the Arizona Governor knows this; and I’ll just bet That One does, too.

  • sowsear

    I find him smart, but humble

    Didn’t he say, “Just like me”…

  • sowsear

    He said they were alike….

  • Breeze

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    BOYCOT MEXICAN GOODS AND PRODUCE.

    TEACH CALDERON & OTHER MEXICAN ELITES A LESSON!!!

  • sowsear

    I don’t know if it’s still true, but once we wanted to buy some land in Canada. We found out we couldn’t own the land; we could lease it if we made improvements every year.
    How come we sell everything to the foreigners…bridges, ports,you name it.

  • BuzzLatte

    Me too.  We get alot of produce from Mexico and/or US and Mexico (yeah right) and I will only buy US grown only.

    Actually, I’ve been seeing more US produce in the last few weeks in my favorite grocery store.  Let’s hope the trend continues.

  • Docelder

    I am for boycotting Mexico. I would rather buy stuff made in China right now to be honest. “F” Mexico.

  • AbigailAdams

    R3A:  I honestly don’t know if there’s any cake left to take but if there is, this takes the very last crumb.  Oh brother!

  • sowsear

    There must be some reason Mexico never got it together down there…

    Course it’s now easier to just take what we’ve developed.

  • elaine

    Fox News has a story on their web page: “Source: Administration Weighs Bypassing Congress to Let Immigrants Stay” by Judson Berger…They’re weighing useing deferred action & parole as a technique

  • felizarte

    To all Americans who truly love this country:  Several events and policies might make us feel today as though we are at this country’s darkest hours.  But other generations also went through their ‘dark hours’ and came through.  So would we and the generations to come.  This is America.  It is greater than any single person who might want to destroy its spirit.  It is a consecrated nation, consecrated by the blood of those who died to establish it and those who died to preserve it and those who today, are still willing to die for it. Those who are today attempting to destroy its foundation will soon discover that they would be gone from the scene and live long enough to see that their efforts have been in vain.  Let us just stand firm in our faith in the inherent goodness of the majority of its people; that everyone who come to this country and chooses to be an American, becomes imbued with that spirit as well. 

  • Katmoon

    How can an action be brought, if no law has been broken, you cannot sue, on what you think “might” happen. >:o

    Good site on immigration laws.

    Source: http://www.endillegalimmigration.com/Illegal_Immigration_Laws/index.shtml

    t is Illegal To Bring Illegal Aliens Into US under current Laws
    It is unlawful for any person to bring aliens into the United States. Fine: $3,000 for each alien (Sec. 273. [8 U.S.C. 1323])

    It is Illegal To Harbor Illegal Immigrants
    . It is unlawful to bring in or harbor illegal aliens. Fine: $3,000 for each alien. (Sec. 273. [8 U.S.C. 1323] )

    It is Illegal To Employ, Recruit, or Refer Illegal Aliens for Jobs
    . It is unlawful for a person or other entity- to employ or recruit or refer for a fee an illegal alien in the United States. Commercial advantage or private financial gain offender can be fined under title 18, US code, imprisoned for not more than 10 years, or both. …Any person who, during any 12-month period, knowingly hires for employment at least 10 individuals with actual knowledge that the individuals are aliens described in sub paragraph (B) shall be fined under title 18, United States Code, or imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or both. (Sec. 274A. [8 U.S.C. 1324a] )

    It is Illegal To Forge Documents for Illegal Immigrants or violate Identity Theft Laws
    . It is unlawful for any person or entity knowingly- to forge documents. Legal documents must be presented when entering the US.
    ( Sec. 274C. [8 U.S.C. 1324c] )
    …Fine: not less than $250 and not more than $2,000 for each document that is the subject of a violation.
    …Previous violation: not less than $2,000 and not more than $5,000 for each document that is the subject of a violation.

    US Laws Declare it is Illegal To Aid or Abet Illegal Immigrants
    . It is unlawful for anyone to aid or assist aliens to enter the United States. Penalty: fined under title 18, United States Code, or imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both. ( Sec. 277. [8 U.S.C. 1327] )

    LEGAL Immigrants Must Know English, US History, US Laws, and Principles
    . No person shall be naturalized as a citizen of the United States who cannot demonstrate: … An understanding of the English language, including the ability to read, write and and speak words in ordinary usage in the English language.
    … A knowledge and understanding of history, and of the principles and form of government, of the United States. ( Sec. 312. [8 U.S.C. 1423] )

    Legal Immigrants Must Display Moral Character and No Crime Record
    . Requirements as to residence, good moral character, attachment to the principles of the constitution, and favorable disposition to the Untied States. ( Sec. 316. [8 U.S.C. 1427] )

    Legal Immigrants Must Be Investigated and Screened for past crimes and terrorism links
    . Prior to a person becoming naturalized, or an employee of the service, a personal investigation is required of the individual applying.
    ( Sec. 335. [8 U.S.C. 1446] )

    It is Illegal For Illegal Aliens to Bypass Medical and Physical Exams for illnesses and infectious diseases
    . Physical and Mental Examinations are required.
    Aliens arriving at ports of the United States will be detained for the purpose of determining whether they are afflicted with any of the diseases or mental or physical defects or disabilities set forth in section 212(a), or whenever the Attorney General has received information showing that any aliens are coming from a country or have embarked at a place where any of such diseases are prevalent or epidemic.
    ( Sec. 232 [8 U.S.C. 1252] )

    Illegal Aliens Deported are ineligible for readmission to US Under Current Laws
    . Distressed Aliens:
    Any alien who falls into distress or who needs public aid from causes arising prior to his/her entry is desirous of being so removed. Any alien so removed shall be ineligible to apply for or receive a visa or other documentation for readmission, or to apply for admission to the United States except with the prior approval of the Attorney General.
    ( Sec. 250. [8 U.S.C. 1260] )

    It is Illegal for Illegal Immigrants to possess a firearm or ammunition
    . It is unlawful for an alien illegally in the United States or an alien admitted to the United States under a non immigrant visa to legally receive or possess firearms and/or ammunition. ( [18 U.S.C. 922(g) and (n), 27 CFR 478.32] )

  • Katmoon

    How can an action be brought, if no law has been broken, you cannot sue, on what you think “might” happen. >:o

    Good site on immigration laws.

    Source: http://www.endillegalimmigration.com/Illegal_Immigration_Laws/index.shtml

    t is Illegal To Bring Illegal Aliens Into US under current Laws
    It is unlawful for any person to bring aliens into the United States. Fine: $3,000 for each alien (Sec. 273. [8 U.S.C. 1323])

    It is Illegal To Harbor Illegal Immigrants
    . It is unlawful to bring in or harbor illegal aliens. Fine: $3,000 for each alien. (Sec. 273. [8 U.S.C. 1323] )

    It is Illegal To Employ, Recruit, or Refer Illegal Aliens for Jobs
    . It is unlawful for a person or other entity- to employ or recruit or refer for a fee an illegal alien in the United States. Commercial advantage or private financial gain offender can be fined under title 18, US code, imprisoned for not more than 10 years, or both. …Any person who, during any 12-month period, knowingly hires for employment at least 10 individuals with actual knowledge that the individuals are aliens described in sub paragraph (B) shall be fined under title 18, United States Code, or imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or both. (Sec. 274A. [8 U.S.C. 1324a] )

    It is Illegal To Forge Documents for Illegal Immigrants or violate Identity Theft Laws
    . It is unlawful for any person or entity knowingly- to forge documents. Legal documents must be presented when entering the US.
    ( Sec. 274C. [8 U.S.C. 1324c] )
    …Fine: not less than $250 and not more than $2,000 for each document that is the subject of a violation.
    …Previous violation: not less than $2,000 and not more than $5,000 for each document that is the subject of a violation.

    US Laws Declare it is Illegal To Aid or Abet Illegal Immigrants
    . It is unlawful for anyone to aid or assist aliens to enter the United States. Penalty: fined under title 18, United States Code, or imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both. ( Sec. 277. [8 U.S.C. 1327] )

    LEGAL Immigrants Must Know English, US History, US Laws, and Principles
    . No person shall be naturalized as a citizen of the United States who cannot demonstrate: … An understanding of the English language, including the ability to read, write and and speak words in ordinary usage in the English language.
    … A knowledge and understanding of history, and of the principles and form of government, of the United States. ( Sec. 312. [8 U.S.C. 1423] )

    Legal Immigrants Must Display Moral Character and No Crime Record
    . Requirements as to residence, good moral character, attachment to the principles of the constitution, and favorable disposition to the Untied States. ( Sec. 316. [8 U.S.C. 1427] )

    Legal Immigrants Must Be Investigated and Screened for past crimes and terrorism links
    . Prior to a person becoming naturalized, or an employee of the service, a personal investigation is required of the individual applying.
    ( Sec. 335. [8 U.S.C. 1446] )

    It is Illegal For Illegal Aliens to Bypass Medical and Physical Exams for illnesses and infectious diseases
    . Physical and Mental Examinations are required.
    Aliens arriving at ports of the United States will be detained for the purpose of determining whether they are afflicted with any of the diseases or mental or physical defects or disabilities set forth in section 212(a), or whenever the Attorney General has received information showing that any aliens are coming from a country or have embarked at a place where any of such diseases are prevalent or epidemic.
    ( Sec. 232 [8 U.S.C. 1252] )

    Illegal Aliens Deported are ineligible for readmission to US Under Current Laws
    . Distressed Aliens:
    Any alien who falls into distress or who needs public aid from causes arising prior to his/her entry is desirous of being so removed. Any alien so removed shall be ineligible to apply for or receive a visa or other documentation for readmission, or to apply for admission to the United States except with the prior approval of the Attorney General.
    ( Sec. 250. [8 U.S.C. 1260] )

    It is Illegal for Illegal Immigrants to possess a firearm or ammunition
    . It is unlawful for an alien illegally in the United States or an alien admitted to the United States under a non immigrant visa to legally receive or possess firearms and/or ammunition. ( [18 U.S.C. 922(g) and (n), 27 CFR 478.32] )

  • Ferd Berfle

    Fox News has a story on their web page: “Source: Administration Weighs Bypassing Congress to Let Immigrants Stay” by Judson Berger…They’re weighing useing deferred action & parole as a technique
    ===============================
    Such a “non-action” would violate federal law.

    Know the law
    Comply with the law, or
    cause the law to be changed

    That would be yet another high crime and misdemeanor that would be grounds for impeachment.

  • FLDemFem

    I have been on several train trips up and down the East Coast, including the Auto-train where you take your car with you on the train. One piece of advice, if you get a sleeper compartment, take an eggshell foam mattress-topper with you, the “mattresses” are like rocks and if you don’t have something to soften them with, you will wake up stiff and bruised in the morning. But the food is great, and so is the scenery which goes by at a watchable rate. I like to sit facing back so I can watch it for longer. Have fun!!

  • Katmoon

    Yes, started with a small package of gum last week, looked to see where it was made…Mexico. Changed back to Wrigley’s

  • Katmoon

    Here is a start:

    http://www.brazilexporters.com/mexico.html

    http://www.usatoday.com/money/world/2010-06-17-mexowned_N.htm
    Lala bought a yogurt plant in Omaha in 2007. In 2009, it purchased Dallas-based National Dairy Holdings, which controls the Borden brand and 18 regional dairies selling milk under the names Flav-O-Rich, Dairy Fresh, Velda Farms, Sinton’s, Cream O’ Weber, Goldenrod and others.
    In 2009, Mexico City-based Bimbo bought the U.S. baked-goods operations of Weston Foods for $2.4 billion, taking over 22 industrial bakeries and 4,000 distribution routes. In all, the Mexican company has 35 bakeries in the USA turning out national brands such as Entenmann’s pastries, Boboli pizza crusts and Thomas’ English Muffins to regional brands such as Brownberry bread and Mrs. Baird’s snack cakes. About 43% of Bimbo’s 2009 sales were in the USA

  • sowsear

    The Canandian RR used to have a highly touted tour to the West Coast..Then I heard they cut the number of daily trips to one…haven’t thought of that in a long time.
    My mother and one of my brothers took a railway trip out west one summer long ago and they scheduled multiple stops so they could stop and see the sights. I think it ended up being too long for my mother and too hot in the summer southwest, but it was an adventure…

  • sowsear

    When I was 15, I went on the train to FL once, too. We had Pullman berths;mine was on top. I didn’t sleep all night and kept climbing up and down. I finanlly fell asleep and woke up after everyone else had gotten up. I was embarrassed so I rang for the porter and asked for a ladder…he said something to this effect, Well you didn’t need it all night…

  • sowsear

    Nancy’s ofice is conspicuous consumption…

  • Cindy

    Sowsear—LOL!

  • Cindy

    felizarte—very nice statement.

  • Breeze

    -

    An impatient Arizona Gov. Jan
    Brewer leans on Obama again
    over illegal immigrants

    Los Angeles Times,
    by Staff   

    Original Article

     6/24/2010

    President Obama was busy Thursday entertaining Russian President Dmitry Medvedev with local cheeseburgers. Obama paid the bill. But in his White House mailbox the American chief executive should find a new letter from an impatient Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer about the illegal immigrant and unsecured federal border issues — and laced with a little salsa. The Republican governor is reminding the Democrat president that three weeks ago during their overdue Oval Office meeting he promised to send her more material within two weeks, especially regarding deployment of National Guard troops to fulfill the federal government’s role ….

  • BuzzLatte

    Apparently the drug cartels have both the Mexican government and the US government held hostage.

    Where’s a leader when you need ‘em?

  • Obama: Dubya 2 Electric Boogaloo

    Holy crap! Ever hear of a “passport”? It’s something you carry when you go to a foreign country for business or pleasure…

    You can almost smell the stupid…

  • candymarl

    BuzzL not in the WH that’s for sure.

  • Geoff C..

    I ain’t eating no more mexican food till they say they are just fooling.  (or I get hungry for mexican food) How can a country sue a state? Will Holder weigh in.  Can I sue Canada because I got skunked fishing. What next, the welcome wagon ladies on all trails coming into America. Unreal. Welcome to obama world. 

  • lorac

    I think the reason a lot of legal mexican immigrants are fighting the law, is NOT that they’re concerned they’ll be hassled, but because they have multiple illegal relatives here.  So a lot of the legal ones aren’t upset that they paid money and time to become citizens and now others may be allowed to stay, they WANT the others to stay, because they’re relatives.

  • lorac

    The welcome wagon already exists.  There are many groups that routinely put out food and water all along the trails the illegals travel on up from the border.

  • elaine

    June 21, 2010
    “No Parole or Defered Action for Illegal Aliens, Hatch, 7 others tell Obama”

    Orin Hatch in his letter to the Prez admits deferred action & parole are within the perview of the executive branch

    Sorry can’t post a link, running too many programs

  • ~~Justme~~

    Here you go elaine.
    http://tinyurl.com/2bz8rkm
    NO PAROLE OR DEFERRED ACTION FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS, HATCH, 7 OTHERS TELL OBAMA 

  • Breeze

    -

    Why boycotts about Arizona
    immigration law are stalling

    Christian Science Monitor,
    by Daniel B. Wood   

    Original Article

    6/25/2010

    Los Angeles – When Arizona signed its new immigration law, SB 1070, on April 4, the immediate response by several cities and states was to enact economic boycotts against the state, with the aim of pressuring legislators to rethink the law. Now, with just over a month to go until the law takes effect July 28, maintaining those embargoes appears to have been tough going for most – especially in the wider economic downturn – and several have watered down their actions. The Los Angeles City Council on Wednesday granted itself an exemption to the city’s boycott of Arizona….

  • Breeze

    -

    Fun Times for Illegal Alien Detainees
     
    Human Events,
    by Audrey Hudson   

    Original Article

    6/25/2010

    Cooking classes, dance instruction, movie nights and bingo games—it sounds like amenities on a cruise ship or a resort summer camp, but these recreational offerings are some of the coming attractions for illegal aliens held at select federal detention centers. The preliminary agreement between Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and its contractor for numerous detention centers, Corrections Corporation of America (CCA), also calls for detainees to receive laptop computer training, access to legal materials, e-mail and phones, and to participate in arts and crafts programs as well as exercise and walking classes.

  • Breeze

    White House Picks Critic of Local
    Immigration Enforcement for
    Key Role at ICE

    Fox News,
    by Stephen Clark   

    Original Article

    6/25/2010

    The Obama administration has tapped an outspoken critic of immigration enforcement on the local level to oversee and promote partnerships between federal and local officials on the issue. Harold Hurtt, a former police chief in Houston and Phoenix, has been hired as the director for the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s Office of State and Local Coordination. Starting July 6, Hurtt will supervise outreach and communication between ICE, local law enforcement agencies, tribal leaders and representatives from non-governmental organizations. “Chief Hurtt is a respected member of the law enforcement community and understands…

  • FLDemFem

    Someone should email this list of laws to Linda Solis..she seems to have missed reading them. Wouldn’t her latest speech saying she will help the illegals get good pay violate at least one of them?? Someone should tell the poor fool how much this is going to cost her after November.

  • EllenD

    She traded Marin for Mexico? Another crazy person!
    You, on the other hand Annie, are living in Carmel – my idea of heaven.

  • EllenD

    If they want relatives to stay legally then SPONSOR THEM! Assume financial responsibility for them.
    I wonder whether the Immigration lawyers are doing a roaring business now. Anybody got any info on that?
    Because that could solve a lot of problems LEGALLY.

  • Breeze

    -

    Widow of Houston Officer
    Killed by Illegal Immigrant
    ‘Shocked’ at ICE Appointment

     
    Fox News,
    by Staff   

    Original Article

    6/25/2010

    The widow of a Houston police officer killed by an illegal immigrant was “shocked” to learn that the city’s former police chief has landed a top immigration job with the Obama administration, her lawyer told FoxNews.com on Friday. That’s because Joslyn Johnson, whose husband, Rodney Johnson, was killed in 2006, is suing former Houston Police Chief Harold Hurtt for failing to enforce federal immigration laws. She claims her husband would be alive today if the city had bothered to check up on the gunman’s immigration status. Now that Hurtt is taking a job to oversee partnerships….