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Feds Stop Sand Berms In LA

Yes, you read that right. The Department of the Interior under Ken Salazar has stopped the creation of sand berms to protect Louisiana. Honestly, is the complete and utter absurdity of how Obama is handling this grave, devastating issue ever going to stop?

Sure doesn’t seem like it, according to this article, “Federal Gov’t Halts Sand Berm Dredging; Nungesser Pleads With President To Allow Work To Continue.” It pains me to even consider the implications of this decision. What is wrong with these people? Here is the rationale:

The federal government has shut down the dredging that was being done to create protective sand berms in the Gulf of Mexico.

The berms are meant to protect the Louisiana coastline from oil. But the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Department has concerns about where the dredging is being done. The department says one area where sand is being dredged is a sensitive section of the Chandeleur Islands, and the state failed to meet an extended deadline to install pipe that would draw sand from a less-endangered area.

And there is the justification, but is it a valid one? That is addressed more fully below, but suffice it to say, this is not the whole picture. I know, what a surprise. Still, how can this work be stopped at this critical juncture? I’m not the only one who wants to know:

Plaquemines Parish President Billy Nungesser, who was one of the most vocal advocates of the dredging plan, has sent a letter to President Barack Obama, pleading for the work to continue.

Nungesser said the government has asked crews to move the dredging site two more miles farther off the coastline.

“Once again, our government resource agencies, which are intended to protect us, are now leaving us vulnerable to the destruction of our coastline and marshes by the impending oil,” Nungesser wrote to Obama. “Furthermore, with the threat of hurricanes or tropical storms, we are being put at an increased risk for devastation to our area from the intrusion of oil.

Nungesser has asked for the dredging to continue for the next seven days, the amount of time it would take to move the dredging operations two miles and out resume work. Gov. Bobby Jindal on Wednesday also joined Nungesser in asking for an extension.

Work halted at midnight Wednesday.

The California dredge located off the Chandelier Islands has pumped more than 50,000 cubic yards of material daily to create a sand berm, according to Plaquemines Parish officials.

Nungesser’s letter includes an emotional plea to the president.

“Please don’t let them shut this dredge down,” he wrote. “This requires your immediate attention!”

Can you just feel the immense frustration of the people in this area trying desperately to keep this oil from getting to sensitive areas, and having their own government impede their efforts time and time again? It is palpable – and I don’t blame them one damn bit:

And here is what Gov. Bobby Jindal had to say about this decision:

In New Orleans this afternoon, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal let fly with a torrent of invective in describing the red tape surrounding the federal government’s shutdown of the state’s dredging operations in the Chandeleur Islands. Jindal not only challenged the wisdom of the Interior Department’s order to stop the dredging, he noted that the management of the Chandeleur’s by the federal Department of Fish and Wildlife has been an exercise in abject failure.

“We got word yesterday that federal officials were going to shut down our dredging operations on the North Chandeleur Islands and those operations were indeed stopped under the federal government’s command at 6PM last night.

“Our request here today is simple,” said the governor. “We are again calling on the federal government to allow us to continue these dredging operations as we mobilize pipe for another two miles – which will take around just seven more days. Getting this pipe in place without stopping the dredging operations will allow us a seamless transition as we move the dredge to a new borrow site. After this pipe is in place, our dredger can disconnect and move to the next site where it can then resume dredging operations in just one day.

“We have told Col. Lee of the Army Corps of Engineers and every federal agency that we are in an emergency situation here. This is a disaster for our state. Days count. Hours count. We cannot wait for more conference calls and meetings for discussions. We need to adapt to the situation on the ground and continue our dredging operations for as long as possible until we can move to the next borrow site and continue to create sand boom.”

Over 5,000 feet of sand berm has been created in the Chandeleurs, in addition to 2.5 miles at East Grand Terre. Jindal has previously noted that sand berm can be highly effective in trapping oil, thus keeping it from coming inland into Louisiana’s estuaries and marshes.

“We have jumped through every hoop that the federal government has placed in front of us since this spill started,” he seethed. “On May 2, we submitted our initial boom plan to the Incident Command Post since there was not a plan. When BP and the Coast Guard were unable to provide the appropriate boom resources, we began developing innovative solutions like Tiger Dams, air-dropping sand bags, Hesco baskets, opening all freshwater diversions, vacuum barges and many other alternatives.

“On May 11th, we submitted a proposal to the regulatory agencies, BP and the Coast Guard to approve our sand berms. It took almost a month for the federal government to approve the plan and make BP pay for the work. Meanwhile, we had millions of gallons of oil covering our wetlands, killing our wildlife and forcing our people out of work.”

I don’t think anyone can blame Jindal for his level of frustration. I’m frustrated by the stupidity with which this has been handled by the government, especially the ridiculous delay in granting emergency permits in the first place. I can only imagine what Jindal, and the other officials in LA, MS, AL, and FL are feeling. But Jindal wasn’t done:

Jindal then took aim at the U.S. Fish And Wildlife Service, which controls the Chandeleurs as a wildlife refuge. He showed a map of the erosion of the chain from 2001 to 2005 and delved into a short history of the disappearing islands.

“People used to live on these islands,” he noted. “It was a fishing community and even had some farming. From the mid-90’s until recently, the islands lost up to 300 feet per year under U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service management.

“Now, this same agency has concerns that we are not being sensitive to the islands by wanting to continue to dredge for seven more days to ensure a smooth transition?

“They have not invested a penny in this area and are allowing it to erode at extraordinary rates. Meanwhile, they invest millions in other refuges in other parts of the country.

“Louisiana’s coast is one our most important resources. That is why we are fighting so hard to protect our wetlands, protect our fisheries and birds and to protect our way of life from this oil spill – with these sand booms.

Jindal then answered the concern that dredging where the state has dredged is a hazard to the islands due to currents and tides.

“We have said from the beginning that we would backfill any dredging that would adversely affect these islands. That commitment still stands. Shutting down dredging operations while oil continues to hit our shores and the oil continues to flow into the Gulf is absolutely absurd. We need to act now.

“The area where the state was dredging remains within the area permitted by the federal government. When the dredging contractor began operations, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service voiced objections to the location of the dredge. In an effort to prevent delay to the project, we worked out an agreement that would provide for backfilling the dredge site and the movement of the dredge vessel to a new location. The state remains committed to moving the dredge to another location within the permitted area and backfilling the first dredge site.”

Kinda makes you wonder just what in the sam hill the problem is, doesn’t it? What is Obama really trying to gain from this? No doubt, there is something afoot:

The Governor then launched into a long riff on the Obamoratorium and the federal government’s attempts to stand it back up after U.S. District Judge Martin Feldman dismantled it with a preliminary injunction yesterday.

The federal judge’s ruling yesterday to grant an immediate injunction on President Obama’s deepwater drilling moratorium was welcome news. We absolutely agree with the judge’s conclusion that the Administration’s six-month, or longer, shut down of deepwater drilling was ‘arbitrary and capricious.’

“Not only does the moratorium threaten thousands of direct jobs in our state, it also jeopardizes many other industries that supply our oil and gas industry and the entire communities that depend on them. It is also deeply concerning that the President’s moratorium was enacted against the judgment of the Department of the Interior’s own expert advisors and scientists.

“The Administration now says that they will immediately appeal the ruling. They just don’t seem to understand that you can’t just turn a switch on and off with these rigs. When they leave our coast to produce oil in other parts of the country or the world, the jobs that support them go too. We absolutely do not want another spill or one more drop of oil on our coast or in our water, but thousands of Louisianians should not have to lose their jobs because the federal government can’t adequately do their job of ensuring drilling is done safely.

“The federal government has an entire agency dedicated to monitoring safe drilling. It shouldn’t take them six-months or longer to ensure safety measures are in place and their laws and regulations are being followed. Instead of an arbitrary moratorium, the Administration should listen to their own experts and enact the specific recommended steps from their own experts to ensure proper oversight and safe drilling.

“As Judge Feldman stated in his preliminary injunction ruling yesterday, ‘…the Secretary’s determination that a six-month moratorium on issuance of new permits and on drilling by the thirty-three rigs is necessary does not seem to be fact-specific and refuses to take into measure the safety records of those others in the Gulf. There is no evidence presented indicating that the Secretary balanced the concern for environmental safety with the policy of making leases available for development. There is no suggestion that the Secretary considered any alternatives: for example, an individualized suspension of activities on target rigs until they reached compliance with the new federal regulations said to be recommended for immediate implementation.’”

The Governor added, “The Commission that was supposed to study the moratorium for the President for six months now says they won’t have their first meeting until mid-July and they won’t finish their report until next year.

“I want to be very clear on this point. Each month that the work of the Commission is delayed means another month that thousands of Louisiana people won’t be able to work. Each month that the work of the Commission is delayed, we expect additional energy companies to move existing deepwater rigs to other parts of the world and/or to plan new deepwater drilling capacity for other parts of the world in lieu of the Gulf – further extending and expanding job losses in Louisiana. Each month that the work of the Commission is delayed will result in the loss of approximately $65 to 135 million in Louisiana wages.

Jindal also noted that the Obama administration’s claim that BP will be picking up the tab for losses suffered as a result of the Obamoratorium is spurious.

“Moreover, the $100 million set aside by BP to offset the wage losses of deepwater rig workers will cover only a few weeks of lost wages for those workers – and these funds will do nothing to offset the hundreds of millions in wage losses for workers in support industries that count on deepwater drilling activity for their livelihood. Today, BP told us for the first time that they will not pay for moratorium-related losses above the $100 million.”

I don’t recall ever seeing the Federal Government working so hard against its own citizens, or the land it is obligated to protect, as I have with this administration. Have you? The list of actions this Administration has taken since January, 2009, against its own citizens is staggering (feel free to list some, in addition to this debacle, suing one of the fifty states for trying to protect itself, and on and on). We knew it was going to be bad with Obama, but I don’t think any of us expected it to be THIS bad, did we? And the hits keep coming…

  • My Site (click to edit)

    Yah, Obama’s trying to destroy the U. S.

  • bamaLV

    im beginning to think all of this is intentional.   ozero WANTS  all this destruction to happen. why else would he be dragging his feet on the cleanup ..even preventing it in some cases.? he is trying his damnedest to bring america to its knees for some nefarious purpose. i read somewhere that although no one can sue the pres. in federal court..they CAN bring a civil suit against him. every citizen in the gulf coast should bring a class action suit against him for ALLOWING  the destruction of the gulf states.

  • goldengrahme

    I have been waiting for a new thread to come up.  This one is a perfect vehicle for saying what is obvious to ME!  Now I am not a genius in all things and knowledgeable only on a limited scale (depending on the topic) but this Gulf catastrophe is not mere happenstance, IMO, nor  does the current bureaucratic footdragging fall into the ‘incompetent’ category.

    This is planned obsolesence on the scale of Hurricane Katrina.  I followed that tragedy out to its logical conclusion and concluded it was
    a deliberate exercise in social engineering. 

    The face of New Orleans was changed forever.  As one regressed citizen opined:  nature did what city planners could not do–depopulate unsavory areas.   His words were more subtle, but his meaning was clear. 

    Now here is one more point of order, if you can handle it…link below on the dangerous, calculated attempts by big commercial interests to extract natural gas across the US, even the globe, by forcing millions of gallons of water and chemicals down a hole.   Just another horror to worry about.  The process contaminates aquafirs which supply drinking water to millions and fractures the earth’s bedrock layers.

    http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/878.html

    View this video and then go to gaslandthemovie.com for further info on this, just another attack on our health and well being.  Then contact your worthless political representatives.  At least make a noise; “It’s better to die on your feet than live on your knees.”  That has been my reason to be for decades.  Make it yours…please.

  • Clara

    We knew it would be bad but none of us are devious enough to have foreseen the degree to which this gang would go.  It’s truly beyond imagination.  How blantatly can they continue to impose serious stress, harm and damage?  Can no one step in?

  • Peggy Sue

    “What does Obama really trying to gain fom this?”

    Maybe the question is: What is Obama trying to hide? 

    The only way that this resistance and clusterf**k makes sense [to me at least] is if the Government knows way more than they’re saying.  I mean, come on, even GW got his act together after Katrina.  Not that the comparison is really accurate because I think this is catastrophe of mega proportions.  But it’s very difficult for me to believe that our Coast Guard and all governmental agencies have turned this stupid and inept over night. 

    And why has BP been given carte blanche on running the show when they’re responsible for the damage?  Yes, they have the equipment and presumably the know-how [highly questionable in my mind].  But we’re allowing them to hire private security guards to keep the press and private citizens from photographing?  We’re allowing them to dump highly toxic dispersants in record amounts into the Gulf, when those very agents are outlawed in the UK?  We’re allowing them to buck residents on attempts to cleanup this mess?

    WTF?

    Color me very suspicious.

    The only good news I read this morning is that Tropical Storm Alex “appears” to be veering towards the west.

    Thanks for the article, Amy. Prayers for the Gulf.

  • helenk

    It is time for a 30 mile long convoy of tanker trucks to bring the oil/water from the gulf to the white house and congress and dump it on the lawns and steps of the white house and senate/house offices.
    Salizar  and his minions should be taken swimming in the gulf

    These dumb asses are a hindrence not a help. It is too important for their game playing.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM  AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE CHATTERING PEOPLE RULE

  • Olivia1998

    that’s right it’s all about the corporations.  I would like to know if you Goldengrahme have ever lived in Socialist country better still name one that’s successful.  My family has lived a fine life we worked hard in America and I see it all taken away from us one step at a time.

  • Breeze
  • kenoshamarge

    I would almost “like” to believe there is some devious master plan behind the absolute incompetence the federal government is showing about the catastrophe in the gulf. I would like to, but I don’t. I don’t see any reason that makes sense.

    The moratorium, yeah that’s to placate the environmentalists that insist that oil be eliminated without any idea how to replace it. Solar? Wind? Bio-fuels? All just dandy and in no way able to replace oil. For now and until something better is made to work and work as well as oil, we and our economy, our way of life, are tied to oil. Ideology is one thing, common sense is another.

    I am convinced that the government really is this incompetent as they seem about the oil “gusher”. Salizar isn’t competent to run a local 7-11 let alone the Department of the Interior. The fact that this incompetent twit is overseeing over 78,000 employees and a budget of $20,000,000,000 is enough to make you wonder how anything ever gets done.

    Our National Parks deserve better. Our citizens deserve better. He’s not evil, he’s just a party hack in way over his head. As is his equally incompetent boss. JMO
    71,436 (2004)Annual budget$20 billion (2010)

  • Dave

    I don’t think that there is one person in this entire administration with an ounce of fucking brains. This dictatorship has to go ASAP.

  • kenoshamarge

    I would almost “like” to believe there is some devious master plan behind the absolute incompetence the federal government is showing about the catastrophe in the gulf. I would like to, but I don’t. I don’t see any reason that makes sense.

    I believe the reason for the moratorium is to placate the environmentalists. Those that insist that oil be eliminated without any idea how to replace it. Solar? Wind? Bio-fuels? All just dandy and in no way able to replace oil. For now and until something better is made to work and work as well as oil, we and our economy, our way of life, are tied to oil. Ideology is one thing, common sense is another. Far too seldom found in the same head.

    I am convinced that the government really is as incompetent as they seem about the oil “gusher”. Salizar isn’t competent to run a local 7-11 let alone the Department of the Interior. The fact that this incompetent twit is overseeing over 78,000 employees and a budget of $20,000,000,000 is enough to make you wonder how anything ever gets done.

    Our National Parks deserve better. Our citizens deserve better. He’s not evil, he’s just a party hack in way over his head. As is his equally incompetent boss. JMO

  • creeper

    Amy, what part of “I’m not cleaning up the gulf until I get cap-and-trade” did you miss?

  • Olivia1998

    right on creeper

  • Guest

    OT:

    I honestly thought this was satire until I went to the link. He must have thought the g in g8 stood for golf.

    When U.S. President Barack Obama stepped off his helicopter in Huntsville on Friday, the first thing he said was, “You’ve got a lot of golf courses here, don’t you?” Industry Minister Tony Clement told the National Post in an exclusive interview.

    “I told him, ‘We would really recommend and love it if you could come back here with Michelle and the kids at some point — we think you’d really love it here,’” Minister Clement said on the sidewalk of Huntsville’s Main Street, in his home riding. “I think I’ve planted a seed in the President’s mind.”

    Read more: http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/06/25/g8-obama-interested-in-huntsvilles-golf-courses-clement/#ixzz0rzZIZZ6p

  • Armymom

    I’m sorry, but we had 5 wells, all were “fracked” (with water) and I call BS on this article. I have family that have wells and I can tell you they’re all fine. I saw somewhere where they were wanting to stop the “fracking” on land in NY. You do realize that if you stop it, you stop drilling all together. Fracking is a very common and very safe situation. I’ve had my water well checked several times over 20 years and not one damn problem. I sure didn’t see this guy at our door, guess we wouldn’t fit into his scenario. And according to my family, he didn’t show up at their doors either. I will take my personal experience anyday than from someone who doesn’t know shit about it and this guy doesn’t know shit. I also question it because the amount they “offered” him is quite high and not usually the case. Normally, you get 1/8 of the royalties and free gas to your residence. That practice is still going on here in Ohio. I have several friends who do gas/oil wells. Sorry this doesn’t pass the “smell” taste,

  • Dario

    I don’t believe everything I read, but I’ve looked into the sand berms and their use is questionalbe, but the dredging can be very damaging to an ecosystem.  Without further investigation, I’m not ready to bash the Obama administration on this issue.  Just because Jindal wants it, doesn’t make it a good project. Below is a discussion of the issue:

    http://redgreenandblue.org/2010/06/16/expert-sand-berms-arent-enough-to-keep-oil-off-la-coast/

    “Who’s designing this thing?
    “The state of Louisiana has a wealth of fine coastal scientists who have been working on the coastal restoration of the Louisiana delta region for decades. Yet those who I have spoken with have indicated that they have not been consulted on the project. I have yet to speak to a scientist who thinks the project will be effective. The Corps of Engineers gave agencies, such as the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), less than a day to submit comments on the proposal after it was presented to the agencies during a teleconference on May 17. Certainly, the agencies had very little time to scientifically evaluate the potential environmental impacts of such a massive project, but in their brief submissions the agencies expressed major concerns.
    “The Department of Interior indicated that “we do not think the risks inherent in proceeding without more environmental study and knowledge are acceptable.”
    “Has it got any hope of working?
    “The EPA directly questioned the proposed berm’s effectiveness, suggesting there is no evidence that the project will stop oil from entering the marshes and estuaries because it is constructed only in front of the barrier islands and will not block the inlets and deepwater passes. In addition, EPA questioned whether a project that will take at least 6 to 9 months to build would be completed in time to have any impact on the spill.”

  • Armymom

    I should also add that they “fracked” our new water well as well about 5 years ago. This is a common practice and again, we’ve had no problem what so ever. I’ve even sent my water samples to places like Sears when we were looking at water softeners. Nada, zilch problems. In fact, my water was so good, I was told that I didn’t really need a softner. So now I suppose we’ll shut down all water wells that supply the population. What some of these groups won’t do to feed off the fears of an unknowing population. Most city folks don’t have a clue and that’s what these groups count on. The “animal rights” group do it to the farmers too, as though the farmers who count on their animals for farming, mistreat them. This kind of stuff makes me so mad…

  • Armymom

    So is the oil better or worse than the sand berms?

  • Breeze

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    If he cared as much about the Gulf Oil disaster as he does about golf, the issue might have been solved already.

    Read more: http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/06/25/g8-obama-interested-in-huntsvilles-golf-courses-clement/#ixzz0rzeIWGqe

  • Breeze

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    Obama bureaucracy soils the Gulf

    Washington Times,
    by Editorial

    Original Article

    6/25/2010 

    The Obama administration’s red tape continues to tie the hands of individuals seeking to mitigate the effects of the disastrous oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico. It’s a sign of how out-of-touch the O Force’s priorities have become. Last week, the Department of the Interior and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers teamed up to thwart efforts to build sand berms to protect the fragile Louisiana coastline. The excuse given for federal intervention was that the state was about to dredge sand too close to the Chandeleur Islands and that a bird habitat might also be affected.

  • Breeze

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    HEY, CARVILLE (AKA ‘RAJIN CAJUN’) WHY ARE YOU SO QUIET?

  • bold&spunky

    So drenched in oil is better? At least these people are trying something! What is Obama doing? Golfing? Maybe we should just drink our mint juleps and watch the oil mess everything!

  • Breeze

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    FROM THE COMMENTS:

    Why do I feel like I am in the Movie ‘Key Largo’ and one of Edward G. Robinson’s goons has a 45 Cal aimed at my head.

    That movie shows a a group of gangsters, holding Bogey and Becall hostage, (the American people), murdering a deputy who they know has an empty gun, (black Panther case and the sorry state of ourJustice department) and leaving the Indians outside during a hurricane (people of the Gulf Coast oil spill).

    However in the end of the movie there is good news Bogie fights back and does in Robinson just like American Patriots will fight back in this Nov. election.

    Remember what the wheelchair bound owner of the hotel called Edward G. Robinson, he called him a “Coward.” Nothing has changed since my schoolyard days a Bully is a Coward and Obama will prove to be both.

  • carol haka

    Well then, I guess he has completed at least one task!

    :*

  • carol haka

    He got his marching orders from the WH.

    >:o

  • Armymom

    This stopping the sand berm makes about as much cents as putting out of business, thousands of acres in Cal. for a little fish. So we’ll starve our country, import more food from other countries, put people out of work and basically take their land and turn it into dust, and we’re fine with this?

  • Armymom

    Oh, but send money. So they can use your money to NOT do the things that they should…

  • Breeze

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    THERE IS A TIME WHEN IT IS EITHER

    COUNTRY OR PARTY

    James Carville!!!

  • Justine

    Trouble is, that’s OUR WH/Congress.  We’d be destroying our own property, HelenK.  (Maybe dump it on private property owned by Obummer, his administration, and Congress.  But, I’m not for that, really…)
    .

  • JeannieB

    Sorry, Dario, but this is just paper regulations getting in the way of common sense. (If you have ever had ANY detailed dealings or employment with the Feds, you know what I’m talking about.) Here we are in the middle of a months-long crisis, and they’re acting like it’s business as usual.

    Are the berms perfect? No.
    Will they provide some protection against the oil spill?  Absolutely. 
    Is doing nothing an option?  NO!!!  EXCEPT to the asleep-at-the-wheel numbskulls in this feckless administration. 

    It’s perpetual 3 a.m. with The One and his nitwits. What a nightmare.   

  • Justine

    Outstanding question, Breeze!!

  • Daffy48

    The fracking that is used for Marcellous Shale has alot of chemicals, this is a different kind of drilling than was used 20 yrs ago.  These wells are drilled over 6000 ft deep and drilled through shale rock.  You really don’t know what you are talking about.  I had my house sprayed with limestone and  arsenic, I have been sick every since.  In Pa the wells are allowed to be drilled close to peoples homes and only have to be 100ft from well water.  Neighbor had methane come up in his well and had methane gas detected in his basement.  They had to vacate their house.  So unless you have Marcellous Shale drilling you should not comment.

  • sybilll

    This is another one of those stories where I suspect I have been redirected to The Onion.  Unbelievable. 
    And, how do you maintain your allegations of being transparent, but, worry about releasing those pesky WH visitor logs?  Meet next door at the coffee shop, of course.  http://www.bluegrasspundit.com/2010/06/most-transparent-presidential.html

    And, just for shits and giggles, Durbin wants Obama to appoint a carp czar. 
    http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/06/durbin-asks-obama-to-appoint-carp-czar.html
    I’m putting all of this in my “you can’t make this stuff up” file. 

  • Breeze

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    LITTLE SEEDLINGS OF HOPE ARE SPROUTING EVERYWHERE:

    Republican Stirrings in Liberal Heartland
     
    Newspaper Enterprise Association,
    by Kathryn Jean Lopez   

    Original Article

    6/26/2010

    It’s a wild political climate out there. In keeping with the blistering heat afflicting previously ultra-safe incumbents, a happily, comfortably retired Queens businessman by the name of Bob Turner thinks he can unseat his Democratic congressman, six-term Rep. Anthony Weiner, in November. It’s a long shot, but crazier things have happened. Just ask Sen. Scott Brown. Running for office was the furthest thing from Turner’s mind when he was watching Weiner on Bill O’Reilly’s Fox News show one March night.

  • Olivia1998

    Who would have thought anyone could shut James Carville up :(

  • Armymom

    Do you even know me? Hell, we have radon in our state, so should we all leave and not build anymore houses? I’ve lived in the country for over 50 years, been around a lot of drilling, have 5 wells on our property, milked over 400 head of holsteins and I can tell you, not ONE person in our family nor one animal have been sick over those wells.

    Then you go from “fracking” to having your house sprayed with limestone and arsenic and you wonder why you’re sick. Guess you should have asked a few more questions, then maybe you would have known what the hell you were talking about. People in this area, protect their land and their family and we’ve been doing so without enviromentalist (like todays envirormentalists) for years. We ask questions first, before we sign on the dotted lines. And so far, no problems with our wells, oil/gas or water. And if you don’t mind, I’ll think I’ll continue to comment.

  • helenk

    ok dump the mix on their homes and see how fast they would get off their dead a@@s and do something.
    America is being destroyed and this bunch is useless or encourageing the destruction.

    A 30 mile long convoy works for me. I can see the people cheering as they drive by. There has to be a stand. If the government can not lead the pack then get the hell out of the way while the people do the job.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE CHATTERING PEOPLE RULE

  • Breeze

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    LET US NEVER FORGET:

    Avertible catastrophe
     
    Lawrence Solomon, Financial Post · Saturday, Jun. 26, 2010

    Some are attuned to the possibility of looming catastrophe and know how to head it off. Others are unprepared for risk and even unable to get their priorities straight when risk turns to reality.

    The Dutch fall into the first group. Three days after the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico began on April 20, the Netherlands offered the U.S. government ships equipped to handle a major spill, one much larger than the BP spill that then appeared to be underway. “Our system can handle 400 cubic metres per hour,” Weird Koops, the chairman of Spill Response Group Holland, told Radio Netherlands Worldwide, giving each Dutch ship more cleanup capacity than all the ships that the U.S. was then employing in the Gulf to combat the spill.
    To protect against the possibility that its equipment wouldn’t capture all the oil gushing from the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico, the Dutch also offered to prepare for the U.S. a contingency plan to protect Louisiana’s marshlands with sand barriers. One Dutch research institute specializing in deltas, coastal areas and rivers, in fact, developed a strategy to begin building 60-mile-long sand dikes within three weeks.

    The Dutch know how to handle maritime emergencies. In the event of an oil spill, The Netherlands government, which owns its own ships and high-tech skimmers, gives an oil company 12 hours to demonstrate it has the spill in hand. If the company shows signs of unpreparedness, the government dispatches its own ships at the oil company’s expense. “If there’s a country that’s experienced with building dikes and managing water, it’s the Netherlands,” says Geert Visser, the Dutch consul general in Houston.

    Read more: http://www.financialpost.com/Avertible+catastrophe/3203808/story.html#ixzz0rztTJQmP

  • Breeze

    -
    LET US NEVER FORGET:  
     
    Avertible catastrophe  
       
    Lawrence Solomon,
    Financial Post ·
    Saturday,
    Jun. 26, 2010  
     
     
    Some are attuned to the possibility of looming catastrophe and know how to head it off. Others are unprepared for risk and even unable to get their priorities straight when risk turns to reality.  
     
    The Dutch fall into the first group. Three days after the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico began on April 20, the Netherlands offered the U.S. government ships equipped to handle a major spill, one much larger than the BP spill that then appeared to be underway. “Our system can handle 400 cubic metres per hour,” Weird Koops, the chairman of Spill Response Group Holland, told Radio Netherlands Worldwide, giving each Dutch ship more cleanup capacity than all the ships that the U.S. was then employing in the Gulf to combat the spill.  

    To protect against the possibility that its equipment wouldn’t capture all the oil gushing from the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico, the Dutch also offered to prepare for the U.S. a contingency plan to protect Louisiana’s marshlands with sand barriers. One Dutch research institute specializing in deltas, coastal areas and rivers, in fact, developed a strategy to begin building 60-mile-long sand dikes within three weeks.  
     
    The Dutch know how to handle maritime emergencies. In the event of an oil spill, The Netherlands government, which owns its own ships and high-tech skimmers, gives an oil company 12 hours to demonstrate it has the spill in hand. If the company shows signs of unpreparedness, the government dispatches its own ships at the oil company’s expense. “If there’s a country that’s experienced with building dikes and managing water, it’s the Netherlands,” says Geert Visser, the Dutch consul general in Houston.  
     
     
     
    Read more: http://www.financialpost.com/Avertible+catastrophe/3203808/story.html#ixzz0rztTJQmP

  • oowawa

    I wonder if James ever hears “I told you so” from Mary when he’s at home . . .

  • Daffy48

    It wasn’t on my land, it was on land across the rd owned by someone in OH.  The drilling in Pa is huge.  The royalities are very high because they are competting for the land here. The gas is being sold to China. The company that drilled across from me, did not use enough water.  I was not allowed in my home until it was cleaned.  The big trucks have ruined the rds, run over pets and speed on small rds.  We bought out home in the 70′s and worked hard to pay for it, we have no say what neighbors do here.   I will not let any of these gas people on my property.  The well across from me contained hydrogen sulifide,  I found my cat dead near the well because the company didn’t post the signs for 2wks. 

    I have lived with this shit for 3yrs, I know what kind of problems are being caused from the Marcellous Shale drilling.  The Gasland movie is true.  They dump the fracking chemicals in the Mongohalia River.Rep Seweese is trying to get new regulations in place now.  The Hallburton loop hole needs to be closed.  Oh, yea they are here locally also.

  • Ferd Berfle

    Wow, and here I thought the illuminati were going to make everything just hunky-dory. Turns out My God, we’ve being given the ignorami. Thanks a lot, bots.

  • No Longer Banned in Beantown

    Obama knows he is one and done.

    Everything Obama is doing in the Gulf, Economy, Obamacare, Crap and Trade, are all Obamas way of grinding out his cigarette in the carpet of the American People.

    Just as Obama did as a punk at Columbia, as he claimed in page 101 of his book “Dreams From My Father”  “We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets. When we ground out our cigarettes in the hallway carpet or set our stereos so loud that the walls began to shake, we were resisting bourgeois society’s stifling constraints. … But this strategy alone couldn’t provide the distance I wanted”

    Obama is putting plenty of distance between himself and the American people. We all need to return the favor in Nov 2010 and 2012.

  • Armymom

    Like I said, they’re still drilling around here, no problems. But I will say this, most of the drillers are fairly local, live in the area as well, so it behooves them to do it right, because we are all neighbors. And quite frankly, there’s been drilling here way before anyone ever heard of Halliburton. And yes, we have shale drilling, lots of shale drilling. But again, you have to have everything put in writing first. Ask lots of questions. There are some fly by nights that think they’ll go into drilling because they worked for someone who does it and they think they’re good enough to go out on their own. Kind of like home contractors, they did something at their house, people complimented them and now they think they can go into business without knowing the ins and outs, the rules and regulations. We have enought regulations, just not enforced. When it comes to my land and my house, I get lots of references and referrals. This stuff can be done right. I know, we live with it. I’m not trying to be antagnostic with you and I can only imagine the suffering you have had. I apologize if it seemed like I don’t care because I do, but I do get so tired of the “enviromentalists” who flock into our countryside and try to tell us what or how to do things. They aren’t most often right, but have their own agenda, one I don’t subscribe to.

  • No Longer Banned in Beantown

    Obama doesn’t need a CARP Czar, he needs a CRAP Czar. What with all the shitting he is doing on the U.S. of A.

  • No Longer Banned in Beantown

    Someone needs to inform Durbin that a President already did what he is asking for.

    Executive Order 13112 of February 3, 1999, By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the National Environmental Policy Act of 1969, as amended (42 U.S.C. 4321 et seq.), Nonindigenous Aquatic Nuisance Prevention and Control Act of 1990. Signed by Bill Clinton.

    I suggest they start with the species that invaded the White House.

  • No Longer Banned in Beantown

    Someone needs to inform Durbin that a President already did what he is asking for.   
     
    Executive Order 13112 of February 3, 1999, By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the National Environmental Policy Act of 1969, as amended (42 U.S.C. 4321 et seq.), Nonindigenous Aquatic Nuisance Prevention and Control Act of 1990. Signed by Bill Clinton.  
     
    I suggest they start with the species that invaded the White House.  

  • No Longer Banned in Beantown

    I keep hoping the little boy takes his ball and goes home.

  • jimjo

    armymom sure glad you had no trouble I got to stay at a motel for 2 weeks while they finished the well. They paid the bill also they had to pay to have the house cleaned before I could come back. Again glad you had luck I did not.

  • Daffy48

    Like I said this is different and how do you get something in writing when it is not on your property.  We built our house in the 70′s. farm area then.  On 10 acres.  We cannot control what our neighbors do and it seems that the people who don’t want the drilling have the problems.  They drill down 6000 to 10000 ft then they drill horizonal.  They cut out 2 acres of trees.  Now Rendal wants to allow the drilling on the Game Lands to balance his budget.  The townships will see very little of this money.  Our rds are toren up with the big trucks and they really don’t care if they run over people.  They have frilled 700 wells in our county and 1700 are permitted.   Thes drillers are fom Texas and West Virginia that are here.  DEP takes the side of the drillers here.  they came into Pa with no regulations in place  Bob Casey promised to help but his office lied.  After the hydrogen sulifide was found in the well across from me, his office told me the well would be capped, 2 days later the drillers showed up again and drilled through the poison gas.

  • goldengrahme

    You had chemicals poured down your water wells? 

    I can accept your assessment on water wells, Armym, but we are talking about deep, deep drilling for natural gas.  And from what I could tell, the digs are much deeper and chemicals extremely toxic.  What is it about those facts you find bogus?  So you think the film maker is a left-wing con artist?  Ideas do get cross-polinated and hybrids are unrecognizable.  While we play political table tennis, the powers that be continue to destroy the planet.

    Once again, we are getting into an area where the old Commie/capitalist paradigm no long applies.  It is skillfully applied when anyone wants to pass responsibility and duck accountability.

    I am seeing a bigger threat, not someone’s backyard home water reservoir.  That is a whole other animal.

    This is a serious situation we can’t gloss over by talking left/right tension.  It isn’t about partisan politics; it’s about addressing a national problem.  Reminds me of the ‘horserace’ senario the media employs during presidential elections to avoid real analysis or homework…two presidents escaped thorough vetting by slickly
    sidestepping real debate–I speak of GW and BO.  Two peas in the same pod.  We are picking up the tab. 

    By veering off course, both the greens and commercial interests keep us from solving these dilemmas.  Did it ever occur to anyone that the green movement may be underwritten by–say, BP?  Would not surprise me in the least.

  • goldengrahme

    It occurs to me, too, Spunky; the people of LA are trying anything to combat the deluge.  But the gov is thinking ahead; Obama has his sights on 2012 and his minions have their eyes on Obama, their
    source of a very tidy income.  He goes, there goes the paycheck.

    Desperate times call for desperate actions and the Gulf residents are desperate, crying for help.  Seems all the country as a whole can do is chatter.  Which means, we are screwed.

  • sybilll

    That made me LOL.  If you need a few more laughs, click through to the comments on the article. 

  • Annie/Carmel

    I will trust that the locals know better than the traitors in the WH.  They have to live with the results and they are first on the firing line in elections if they bungle this.

  • getfitnow

    Mark Levin has said this is intentional from DAY ONE–the way of the statist. :( Who is the puppet master?

  • Annie/Carmel

    Maybe Bill told him to be quiet.

  • susiepuma

    What you all need to remember is:

    Obama said – In a few short days, we will begin to transform this country – he didn’t say what or how – just that ‘they’ will begin to transform -

    well, no one paid attention – they were so happy ‘that a black man (really 1/2 & 1/2) was running for President’ – they (not me, I voted for Palin) elected this fraudulent narcissistic arrogant sociopathic POS & he is transforming this country – we will be less than a banana republic – either a labor camp for the Chinese or a Islamic Muslim takeover with Christian Americans becoming cannon fodder for them – either way we lose and no more USA -

    Some of us tried to get the word out about this POS who really does attract flies – eewwww!! – but not enough people listened – well – guess what Dems – he doesn’t give a shit about you either – you are just a means to an end for him and you can be thrown under your own damm bus – ours is full…………………………………………..

    I loathe & hate that POS

  • beyond_words

    GGrahme I worked 7 years in the conventional land based oil and gas industry on completed wells. I worked for 2 major well service companies and one of those involved fracturing.
    That video is a joke of propaganda. In Alberta approx 13,000 to 17,000 wells are drilled per year. I’ve met hundreds of farmers over the years and most of our wells were on leased farm land. I’ve never ever heard of contaminated ground water for drinking wells. Ever. The chemical “gel” that is blended on the surface and forced through the casing travels down hole through the well bore perforations (by explosives, work i’ve also done) and into the formation. The fluids are under control. Well fluid water pumped down hole is lost yes, I will agree there but this video makes fracturing seem like something “new” and “doomsday”.
    Nonsense.

  • sowsear

    The shoe is on the other foot, that’s all…

  • Sandy

    I also believe this is intentional. Is there anyone out there that can stop this maniac?

  • Armymom

    I’m sorry you did have trouble. Like I said no problem with ours, neighbors, or families wells. I know of only one problem and it wasn’t with digging a well. My ex mother in law had ordered fuel oil for the winter, with her tank being in her basement. She was at work when they delivered and when she got home, her house wreaked of oil. The guy delivering hadn’t been working for the company very long and instead of filling the tank, he filled her basement. She wasn’t able to live in her house for almost 2 years. The company had to pay for all the damages, but they wanted to just buy her out and of course at less than market value. She had a son that she stayed with and waited then out. Her house is now “fixed” and she ended up with a tidy sum for damages and mental anguish. So the only oil issue that I know about is from someone, again, who didn’t know what they were doing.

  • Armymom

    Tell me how you really feel susie. :-D
    I feel the same way 8-)

  • goldengrahme

    Yes, someone said this is treason.  The politicians take an oath to defend the Constitution, i.e., defend the entire country and her people.  That could apply to the lack of border protection, as well.

  • getfitnow

    Yep, After his “meltdown”, he walk it back saying That One’s staff wasn’t keeping him briefed.

  • Daffy48

    I think you were asking about chemicals in the water well, I was talking about the gas well that was drilled across the rd from my house.  I was lucky with my water well.  They sprayed limestone dust and whatever else came out of that well all over my home, it was inside the house.  They had a faulty drill and did not use enough water.  Neighbor had methane in his water well from a different gas well.   We are in SW Pa. 

    And yes Golden you are right about the new Marcellous Shale drilling.   I am not a enviromentalist. just hate to see this area ruined and littered with this many gas wells.  A few fine but there is too many here.  People that don’t see this everyday don’t understand what is happening in PA

  • Armymom

    Daffy, I do really share your concern. It sounds as though maybe there hasn’t been enough regulation in your state or fly by night operators. But I can assure you, I’ve not known anyone who has had any problems.

    I understand how they drill, I’ve watched ours, asked enough questions. I’ve never had that many trees or pasture or even corn/alfalfa fields damaged. I live on a gravel road and didn’t even notice the difference in them. Our cows pasture in the same fields, we plant in the same fields, have for years, without any problems. I hope they get it right in your area, but not all drillers are assholes, nor do all drillers screw you. I posted a video that I saw on Gretawire a few nights ago about how they actually drill for oil in LA, yet most people didn’t even know it. There is a tower right behing Beverly Hills High School and most people didn’t even know what it was. They showed how, with horizontal drilling, that a large farmer’s market out there was actually an oil field. If they can get it right there, you’d think they could get it right everywhere else. Again, I’m truly sorry for what you’ve gone through, it shouldn’t have happened that way.

  • Armymom

    They’ve been fracking wells since what, the 40′s? There are millions of wells that are operating that have been fracked. I guess it really does matter who does them. I mean look at BP, they’ve had how many safety violations and yet there are drillers who do the responsible thing and do things right. But because of companies like BP, the others will suffer the consequences. Too bad.

  • Breeze

    -

    British Firm Says It Can
    Fix BP’s Oil Slick

    Sky News [UK],
    by Kat Higgins   

    Original Article

    6/26/2010

    A British company has revealed new blotting paper-like technology it says could be used to suck up large amounts of oil floating in the Gulf of Mexico. Ultra Green is an environmental research and development company based in Brighton that has been working on a solution to the ongoing disaster in the US. The firm has developed a membrane that captures oil from the surface of the water so it can then be squeezed out safely. It plans to mobilise up to 170 local fishing boats which will tow platforms holding a device with the membrane attached into the sea.

  • getfitnow

    o/t –Something is wrong with POTUS–seriously.
    Barack Obama’s first words at G8 Summit- “You’ve got a lot of golf courses here, don’t you?”
    The National Post reported:

  • Armymom

    I don’t know about anyone else, but everytime I see the gulf pictures, I think of Obama and golf. When I see the words “golf”, I think of Obama and the gulf. I sure hope the RNC does a lot of commercials with that image. In the mean time, Obama help the “gulf” and lay off the f’ng “golf”.

  • beyond_words

    Damn nice link post Breeze. So in other words the Netherlands gov’ts are “competent” and “prepared”. It’s too bad that help wasn’t accepted for the marshland protection.Being a lowland country they would know how to do it right and with speed.

    How utterly sad and frustrating.

  • susiepuma

    I started out with dislike, then it became loathing and now it is just pure hatred………………………………………

    I have never, ever in my whole life felt this way about someone, not even my POS cheating ex-husband ………………………….. =-X

  • Sassy

    Thanks for the update Amy!
    These bureaucratic regulations may be logical under ordinary circumstances, but in a crisis, they are a poor substitute for a prompt, full-scale response.
    On a more positive note, a Fox reporter did several segments on the 1979 Gulf rig explosion and ten month spill. Between the second and third year, marine life started to recover, except for oysters which tasted oily.
    Surely our technology is vastly improved thirty years later, but this gusher may defeat it all yet. The people of the Gulf must be absolutely exhausted, so I truly hope they get relief soon!

  • susiepuma

    His chip is stuck – needs to be reprogrammed – did soros slip into canada to reprogram that ugly POS – if the flies keep landing on him – others might start to wonder too -

    I swear scar on his head is where the chip is………………..

  • Daffy48

    They have tested the fracking chemicals that was dumped into the Mon River, they are dangerous, they are getting into the drinking water.  I will see if I can link the article from our local paper.  Fish died in Dunkard Creek although some people want to blame the mines.  funny the mines have been here for yrs and the fish didn’t start dying until the gas drillers showed up.

    I had to go to the ER, my mouth and throat turned white, I could not breathe in my house.  We were in my yard with mask on, county supervisor came out, he could not believe what he saw, it was night and there was a big fog over the whole ridge.  :ast year I was diganosed with Graves.

    These are not fly by night companies they are Eaastern American,. Haliburton , Atlas and others from Texas.

  • susiepuma

    Saw a pic of a bunch of idiots holding hands along the beaches around the world and protesting against oil – what planet are these idiots from?  Were they hatched?  How did they get to the beaches – what are they wearing – what are they eating – how are they getting around – where do they think the electricity came from for their stupid protest – do they use the latest tech phones to contact each other?  Are they just plain stupid??

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    What an apt, image, NLBIB – yes – that is exactly what he is doing. 

  • susiepuma

    See I’m not paranoid – if they can do this for a cat -

    who’s to say the fraud is not programmed with a chip

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100625/wl_uk_afp/britainhealthcat

    just sayin’

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    It is certainly close – he is not doing his sworn duty – far from it.

    And thank you for your other comment below, too, goldengrahme.

  • candymarl

    Well if this is true and it really works you can be sure Salazar and company (ie. the WH) will all they can to block it.

  • connie

    It is so apparent that Obama is out to destroy our country, why is this not grounds for impeachment??? Why isn’t anyone looking into this. I guess we wait til November if the repubs get in, then we can expect them to get started???

  • connie

    Susie, I’m sure they are upset watching and smelling the spill kill and ruin what they’ve worked for…I think we can give them a break right now for not being in their right mind. I don’t want to see anymore dead dolphins and etc. either.
    We can’t stop drilling anytime soon that for sure…cut them a little slack right now…they in lots pain going thru this.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    Indeed, Peggy Sue – prayers for the Gulf (and thanks!).

    I agree – what are they not telling us? 

  • candymarl

    The answer to you last question susiep  is YES.

  • candymarl

    that’s “your last question”.

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    I stand corrected, creeper. 

    If only that wasn’t snark, right?

  • oowawa

    Typical beach protest against oil:

  • Rabble Rouser Rev. Amy

    No, berms are not a perfect solution, but this is an EMERGENCY situation. LA asked for emergency permits, and the Feds dragged their feet on them.  Having  the oil make it to the marshes is deadly, and not just possibly.  As soon as the oil hits, the grass dies.  Period.  So, yes, there may be some collateral damage (I thought I said that – sorry if I didn’t), but if the berms are not in place, the damage will be catastrophic.

  • Daffy48

    http://www.observerreporter.com/or/LocaLnews/06-25-2010-deweese-gas-drilling I hope I have this link correct, this is just one of many articles that are in our local paper.  The ones about the Mon river were sometime back.  But if fracking is so safe why is Mr Deweese concerned about it.

  • candymarl

    I don’t think most Americans understand how many petroleum based products we are currently dependent upon.  That applies especially to the medical field. 

    Are we willing to give up live saving equpiment and accessories so we can be mad at oil?  This explains why this coountry is in so much trouble. There’s nothing wrong with not knowing something. The problem seems to be that some Americans are happy in their ignorance and simply don’t want to know.

  • Armymom

    Wow Daffy, I can really understand your anger and your frustration. I guess I would be pissed too if it happened to me. I don’t think I was just lucky, I really believe it was because the people who do our wells around here, actually live around here. At leat that’s how it’s been for the last 20 years or so. I will keep you in my prayers and know that I am truly sorry for being antagonistic toward you. You didn’t deserve it, please accept my apology.

  • susiepuma

    Who are you talking about?  The environmentalists who are holding hands around the world protesting drilling????  They get no slack from me – they are the reason drilling is being done in 5,000 feet of water instead of ON LAND, OFF SHORE, etc. – they are just plain stupid – they want their damm wind turbines but now that the turbines are gonna be in ole dead teddy’s backyard – they (the same greens who want the turbine shit only elsewhere) filed a lawsuit to prevent it because of the birds – see no pleasing those assholes – that’s why I asked – what planet are they from?  Aliens like the fraud?????

  • Armymom

    As bad as I really really dislike my ex husband, I have to agree with you. I get soooooo pissed and keep asking myself everyday, what else can he do……and then usually I get the answer and it ain’t good.

  • Armymom

    Thank you thank you thank you candymarl. A big thank you!!!!
    At last count it was something like over 6000 everyday products that are made with oil. That’s a lot to give up.

  • Armymom

    Wasn’t it Wisconnsin or Minn. that had the wind turbines, but they froze up this winter? That helps alot to depend on those. Not saying that they don’t need some “tweaking”. I’m for an all of the above approach. What might work in California, might not work in Ohio or Penn.

  • sowsear

    Solar panels might not work where we have to have our roofs shoveled in the winter either.

  • Armymom

    I also hope I can get “forgiveness” for my typing and spelling errors. I’m learning how to “reuse” my arm after having rotocuff surgery and it gets tired easy and just “quits” on me. Sorry :-[

  • ~~Justme~~

    State probing contaminants in Mon RiverProblem could cause bad smell, bad taste in drinking water for thousands

    http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08297/922152-113.stm

  • sowsear

    I ran across someone somewhere(? )today saying they thought BO was smoking weed (from the look in his eye). Maybe the flies and bees are being drawn by that smell and not his ketones..

  • Armymom

    I can’t get to the article, but I would maybe suppose that he is opposed to it because they (the drillers) might not have followed regulations.

    This is one of the problems I have, we have regulations, but usually they aren’t enforced in anything it seems. We had banking regulations, but they fell asleep on them. We have immigration laws, but they’re not enforced. We had drilling regulations, but again, they were overlooked. So now, this administration thinks we need to change every regulation out there and says it’s for our own good. I question everything now, as you can tell. Trust but verify and follow the money.

  • getfitnow
  • ~~Justme~~
  • Seymour

    I’m really going out on a limb on this but I would say Obama, et al., is not going to be getting a lot of votes from the South East…
     
    Seriously, this entire vertical Obama experiment that so painfully includes overt isometrics to this emotional clarion call from our fellow citizens in the Gulf. This is unequivocally premeditated. These decisions cannot possibly gestate from a position of logic. America now knows it yet Biden and Obama seem oblivious to this fact yet forge ahead.  How much more pain is America willing to take from this man? Not much more if at all IMO and he has two years left stinking up the Whitehouse. 
     
    Obama needs to lead, follow or get out of our way. On second thought he just needs to get his ass out of our way, period. We’re more than happy and able to do the heavy lifting as we’ve always done which is one of the many reasons our country is the greatest on earth. He actually humor’s himself thinking he’s going to break the will of the American people! It’s obvious this is his agenda but he is missing one very important ingredient here and that is he doesn’t know America and her people very well or at this juncture at all. 
     
    OT: I was looking for the McChrystal-versus-Obama article from yesterday. I know I was one of the first commenter’s after a scotch or two before leaving for dinner. So…………did ole Seymour step in it? TIA……

    Seymour
     
     

     

  • candymarl

    You’re quite welcome Armymom. :)

  • ~~Justme~~

    Yes, I noticed the McChrystal-versus-Obama post has vanished. Carry on and enjoy your scotch your not imagining things Seymour!

  • Seymour

    Armymom, the one sight that just irks me to no end is watching him board and depart Air Force One and Marine One. To mentally hurl is an understatement. I also can’t stand the sight or thought of his free room and board in this great House. Until the Gulf, my beef was with his policies and nothing personal. That’s all changed now via his blatant inaction in the Gulf as now my personal irritation grows by factors of 10……weekly.
     

  • Seymour

    Dario….Puleeeze.

  • AC

    It (vanishing post) usually occurs briefly during an update.

  • Armymom

    I hear ya..

    After witnessing what he is doing to the Arizona border, holding it hostage, I almost bet he’s holding the Gulf hostage until they cry uncle and help him get cap and trade. Not saying they (gulf) will do that, but it makes you wonder if that’s not what he is waiting for, so that he can ride in on his white horse and save the day for them. POS CIC

  • candymarl

    Nah Seymour you’re cool.

  • Seymour

    Armymom,
     
    Nailed it…a once fertile San Joaquin Valley has been relegated to dust bowl status. Can’t have fresh produce to feed millions when we have to preserve a 2in fish (delta smelt) that can live in fresh as well as salt water.
     
    Friggen geographic, economic and oceanographic geniuses’, no?  
     
     

  • ~~Justme~~

    Well I am so glad I am functioning OK after sipping my Bacardi and Coke :*

  • Rosa

    I also live in western pa. and the people coming in to drill are doing exactly what you are saying and there have been many meetings filled with outrage and complaints against the gas companies.  these farmers are republicans not liberals.

  • Armymom

    Doesn’t make sense does it?

  • Breeze

    -
    They sure are, bw!!

    And they were the first ones to offer help, for free….

  • Rosa

    in the sixties they had protests and now they chatter!! yep   that would mean action and less typing.  everyone in the U.S. should be taking a stand .

  • Armymom

    That’s about the dumbest thing I’ve heard so far. So in my area, which is predominately a democratic area, and rural with democratic farmers who love drilling, you’re saying that they love drilling because they’re republican farmers? Well what do you know, finally some bi-partisanship. (smacking my head in disbelief at your statement)

  • Breeze
  • beyond_words

    “The most noticeable characteristic of Obama,” says Dr. Kate, in a chilling article entitled The Trojan Candidate, ”is his profound lack of respect for America as shown with his behavior on the flag pin, the failure to observe decorum regarding the national anthem, the fake presidential seal, the printed announcement of his speech in Germany, the upside down flag on the tickets and behind Biden at the Convention, his airplane with painted-over American flag, and his detached and callous appearance at Ground Zero. By this behavior, Obama is mocking America, cheapening its decorum and symbols.”

    Dr, Kate reminds her readers that it was one of Obama’s role models, Saul Alinsky, who wrote Rules for Radicals and who believed that change “meant a Marxist revolution achieved by slow, incremental, Machiavellian means which turned society inside out. This had to be done through systematic deception, winning the trust of the naively idealistic middle class by using the language of morality to conceal an agenda designed to destroy it.”

    She further asks why Obama’s close friend, the unrepentant domestic terrorist William Ayers, would quote the following poem in his blog just two months before the election. :

    The end of an empire is messy at best
    And this empire is ending
    Like all the rest
    Like the Spanish Armada adrift on the sea
    We’re adrift in the land of the brave
    And the home of the free
    Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye

    “Do you think he knows something, or hopes for something that we don’t?” she asks. “Obama is not who he says he is…I also wonder about his Manchurian Candidate characteristics. What is inside this Trojan Horse? Who is he a front for?”

    http://contributors.blogsome.com/2009/02/16/obama-the-trojan-horse/

  • ~~Justme~~

    You mean White Unicorn right AM?
    However this one is getting tired!

  • Armymom

    I’m sorry Rosa, I love your posts mostly, but I’m still giggling from the remark “these farmers are republicans” as if that has anything to do with “drilling”

    I live near Gene Branstool, who if you will remember, was the delegate from Ohio who pushed Bill Clinton to clinch the nomination. Gene is a “pig farmer”, his son is an orchard owner, another son owns a grain farm (with oil wells). Another large family farm does potatoes and they’re all also democrats, (well maybe not now, they’re not stupid lol) . Anyways, my point is that they’re all for drilling. They hang around with a lot of different farmers who have wells, and they’re fine with it. The big difference is that it HAS TO BE DONE RIGHT. This “stereotype” that only republicans love drilling is ridiculous. Don’t buy into the hype.

  • Armymom

    lol, yep that’s what I meant to say, white unicorn with rainbows, the sky opening up and white rays of sunshine glowing on his head.

  • andyp

    Let us not forget that Obama says what people want to hear.  You judge his actions and not his words.

  • TeakWoodKite

     the President’s moratorium was enacted against the judgment of the Department of the Interior’s own expert advisors and scientists

    It has been reported that Petraus was not on the short list until BO put him there.

    Here come the judge…
    Feldman said that the moratorium was faulty because there was no “rational connection between the facts found and the choice made.

    Yup…that’s BO alright. If Jack Nicklaus’s caddy, Angelo Argea (rip) told BO which club to use, BO wouldn’t listen, it appears.

  • Seymour

    They have put it in idiot gear and punched it.

  • Seymour

    Only on weekends folks and I limit it to couple, LOL. Great responses…

    Seymour

  • SHV

    “I don’t think most Americans understand how many petroleum based products we are currently dependent upon.  That applies especially to the medical field.”
    *******
    And that is one reason why burning petroleum is such a waste.  The complex hydrocarbons that took hundreds of millions of years  to form and are fundamental to makinge synthetic compounds are are burned for heat.

  • candymarl

    I’m aware that it took hundred of millions of years. Petroleum is not the problem The oil in the Gulf did not decide to do any of this.  What the oil, gas, and  methane said “let’s blow up, burn, and teach these humans a lesson”?

    These are naturally occurring processes as a part of the Earth’s ecosystem. I never said anything about burning anything. I’m not sure what your point is.

  • Onofre’s arm

    The low self esteem reason why the post disappeared;
    I wrote one damn thing on the thread and stunk the whole thing up. i’m sorry.

    The paranoid theory;
    Obama’s got the kill switch.

    The delusional theory;
    Bush did it.

    An idiot global warming fanatic’s theory (that’s YOU donjo);
    Record temperatures caused the servers to melt.

    The paranoid, ultra sensitive, sanctimonious atheist theory (donjo again);
    Christians did it.

    A bot’s theory;
    A stampede of pink unicorns trampled all of the contributors to NQ.

  • susiepuma

    That happened right here in MN – dummies bought the turbines used from CA – they froze up here – are working now – they had to refurbish them with different OIL/hydraulic fluids – another example of dumbed down country over educated dimwits…………………………….. I saw the dam things and wondered why their big blades weren’t turning – story was on the news & in the papers – just laughed – easier & less messier than crying………

  • daffy48

    ArmyMom, I accept your apoligy.  This is a fairly new method of drilling and Pa was hit unprepared, old regulations and not equipped to handle this type of drilling.  Some people have had no problems but other places are really bad.  I am glad that finally someone is putting a spotlight on what is going on in Pa.  I wrote letters and called every poitician in the state when we had our proplems.  Nothing they could do because of PA laws.  Gas companies think a mere $5000 will fix everything.  Just like in the gulf. Rep Deweese was the only one to send someone to our house and he has been trying to get new regulations through the state house.  I know it is a long process.

    I have read NQ for a long time, I usually don’t post but this issue upsets me and I know what is going on here.  I

  • ~~JustMe~~

    Well good to hear you did it! Just make sure you keep the damn “kill switch” outta “O”s hands!

  • susiepuma

    So what are you suggesting to use instead?  Inquiring minds want to know?  Is there anything you environmentalists like?  Common’ give me a hint?  anything?  bueller?  bueller?

  • creeper

    How I wish it WERE, R3A.  But it’s not snark in any way.  No more than “I’m not going to secure our borders until all the illegals already here can vote for me.”

    Barry is holding a substantial portion of our country hostage to his own agenda.  This is extortion, pure and simple.

  • creeper

    Oh, for chrissake!  This is insane!  The Corps of Engineers has already refused to close the Chicago River (or reverse the flow again to Lake Michigan).  Short of doing that, nothing on this green earth is going to keep Asian carp out of the Great Lakes.

    They’re here in the Mississippi already.  I’ve caught them for the past year.  There’s been some concern that they’ll drive out our domestic species but Asian carp have a big disadvantage.  As Breeze noted above, they’re very tasty…quite different from the soft, oily flesh of native species.  Hopefully that might keep the numbers down somewhat.  Dog only knows what else will.

  • candymarl

    Excellent points susiep.  So apparently they have the technology and materials to replace all of this.  So let’s see it. Let’s see the science and the manufacturing capability that will instantly solve this problem.  Gear up the factories. Heck, it could even put many Americans back to work.  In the meantime be willing to give up everything you own that’s built on petroleum based products. All of it.

    That’s what you’re asking us to do. You first.

    PS. Riding bikes instead of using cars? Great idea. Except tires are made of petroleum based materials. I know that. So I guess bikes must go as well. 

  • creeper

    Assume they were also the first ones Barry turned down.

  • Tamara

    Of COURSE it’s intentional!  How else could he pass cap and tax? 
    Oil= evil
    BP and corporations=evil

    Green=good.

    Nevermind that there is nothing to replace oil.  Forget that. 
    We’ll just hope and dream that the “magic” fuel will appear while taxing the American people into oblivion.

    Hey, look at how this green thing worked in Spain?
    THe’re broke and rioting.
    BRILLIANT!

  • TeakWoodKite

    I really would highly recommend this movie “Gasland”, having viewed it last night. It is mind blowing in it’s scope and a mind numbing in it’s detriment to the “commons”.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Add to that , everytime I hear BO say “God Bless America”, I hear “God Damn Amerikkka”.

    To a serial liar, sencerity is a sandtrap to be avoided.

  • TeakWoodKite

    Community orginizing, he said?

  • TeakWoodKite

    Community organizing, he said?

  • Guest

    It is a source for plastics and other chemicals used in industrial processes etc, but two-thirds of oil consumption in the U.S. today does go for transportation fuels. Excluding bicycles of course…

  • No Longer Banned in Beantown

    It would be a great export commodity. Asians love carp, and apparantly that is the tastyest of the species, the reason it was brought to the U.S. An entrepreneur could do a good business supplying Asian restaurants with that fish.

  • No Longer Banned in Beantown

    If you make lemonaid when you get lemons then you have something to wash down your Asian Carp.

  • helenk

    OT but important

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jun/25/inside-the-black-panther-case-anger-ignorance-and-/

    This has to be investigated. If we do not stop voter intimidation nothing will mean a thing in any election.

    Americans knew that if we did not like a politician we could vote them out. If that changes and the last three elections make it look like it is then anarchy will rule.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE  CHATTERING PEOPLE RULE

  • candymarl

    It also goes for medical sources.  I’m just saying if two thirds goes for transportation then I want all of those that bike, fly on  those pesky airplanes they must take up a large chunk of it, to give it up.  I’m not saying a change is not needed. I’m asking all of the holier-than-thou folks to give it up first.

    No more jet airplanes, No more Jumbo Jets or private planes. No more cars and tell me, you didn’t answer my question, replace all of this with what?  Answer the question.

  • candymarl

    Oh yeah and let’s ground all military transports. Then replace them with what?

  • EllenD

    My admiration, Armymom, for your apology..
    There are too many people who will not accept anyone else’s point of view, no matter what.
    I hope others will follow your wonderful example.

  • lorac

    OT, sorry!, but it’s an RRRA thread, and I thought she’d particularly like to hear this -

    I was just in AZ, and on the way there, I saw one of those billboards I’ve seen on the net, with Bush smiling and the words, “Do you miss me yet?”.

    On the way back, I saw a really great one around Yuma – on the right in big letters it said “Jan Brewer”, and on the left was a big picture of Rosie the Riveter flexing her muscle, and underneath it said, “Doing the job the feds won’t do!”

    I loved it!

    And also, unrelated, most of the rest stops had big signs saying “closed” on top of the freeway signs indicating they were coming up.  I guess it’s probably the economy, no one can afford to keep them clean and supplied, so they just close them….?

  • Jim S

    Soros

  • Guest

    I think however you can manage it everyone reasonable is advocating lower (not NO) energy lives for a smooth transition from oil. Which is inevitable anyway as extraction becomes too costly and the return on investment will no longer support these types of environmental disasters.

  • kenoshamarge

    Excuse my ignorance but exactly what office does Carville hold that the president’s staff must keep him briefed? I loathe Oblahblah with every fiber of my being but I am equally filled with loathing for all these loud-mouthed “strategists” that kiss Obama ass until something that affects them goes haywire. Then the rapidity with which they go from attack dog to lapdog is astounding. Someone yanked the leash. Hard.

    Carville is just another resident of the Gulf and his “concerns” and right-to-know shouldn’t be any more important than all the other’s affected by the oil “gushing” into the waters. In fact his right-to-know isn’t nearly as important, IMO, as the fishermen, and others whose livlihood depends on the gulf. A loud mouth and access to a microphone is no reason Carville deserves to know, or be “briefed” any more than anyone else on the gulf. JMO.

  • kenoshamarge

    Something “fishy” about this.

    I not only couldn’t resist, I didn’t even try.

  • kenoshamarge

    You also have to understand, which I’m sure you do and they don’t, that alternative energy sources simply are not affordable for many of us.

    I would like nothing better than to have solar panels on my roof. It is a long south facing surface that would be perfect. I just can’t afford to do it.

    In the meantime, until “alternative” sources of energy are readily available, locally viable, and affordable we are “stuck” with oil. Sometimes reality sucks!

    Until then it would be a big help to our safety, economy and peace of mind if the GD government did it’s job and enforced the safety regulations that are all ready on the books. No GD waivers or excuses.

    Since we all know and have always known that the oil companies are in it for the profit, no matter how many “touchy-feely” commercials they have on television, we need a competent and honest regulatory response from “our” damn government. We don’t need, in most cases any new regulations, we just need the ones we have enforced. What part of that does Salizar, Oblahblah and the federal government not understand. And have never seemed to understand?

    We don’t need a “moratorium” on drilling. We need an army of inspectors on every drilling rig making sure they are following the regulations to the letter and then said inspectors allowing drilling to continue. The oil companies need to know that their “cozy” little relationship, a special treatment with and by the government is over!

    BP screwed up royally in it’s greed and stupidity. The government allowed that to happen and then sat on it’s hands while oil gushed.

    We don’t need, for God’s sake, another damn commission. Please spare us the expense and the drivel of this bunch of oil-hating environmentalists. The Obama Administration didn’t even try to give an appearance of some honest appraisals by packing the commission with these “greenies” and not including “one” not ONE oil expert.

    My sympathy to the people of the gulf. Your government has failed you again and will continue to fail you because they “play” politics with everything and anything. People’s lives mean nothing to them.

    Your basic Left Coasties couldn’t care less about the people of the gulf. They will cry for a pelican or a turtle, as we all do but they don’t care about the people. You are all expendable to their ideology. Most southerners are racist, hillbillies and dimwits in their bigoted mindsets.

    Sorry, once I got started I couldn’t seem to quit. Done now. Climbing down.

  • Breeze

    -

    No skimmers in sight as oil
    floods into Mississippi waters

    McClatchy Newspapers,
    by Karen Nelson

    Original Article

    6/27/2010 

    GULFPORT, Miss. — A morning flight over the Mississippi Sound showed long, wide ribbons of orange-colored oil for as far as the eye could see and acres of both heavy and light sheen moving into the Sound between the barrier islands. What was missing was any sign of skimming operations from Horn Island to Pass Christian. U.S. Rep. Gene Taylor got off the flight angry. “It’s criminal what’s going on out there,” Taylor said minutes later. “This doesn’t have to happen.” A scientist onboard, Mike Carron with the Northern Gulf Institute, said with this scenario….

  • goldengrahme

    Thanks for all the links to articles exposing the toxins in the fracting process.  We must insist that commerical interests be second to health concerns of our citizens.  To do otherwise is sheer folly and borders on insanity. 

    Once I worked for a photo company (just for about a week) which used telemarketing to sell their product–family pictures.  It sounded good on the surface. Then one morning I heard a supervisor push a package to an old woman on welfare. He told her that she could pay when she got her check and would not drop the issue despite the woman’s insistance that she could not afford what he offered.

    I was appalled.  The company, to that time (early 80s) was well-respected and did an acceptible job.  However, in their zeal to open more and more studios, they lost their moral compass.  I quit that day realizing I was not cut out for aggressive marketing ploys.

    I use that story to point out how a good idea can go wrong.  How good people can dismiss their membership in our social contract to ‘do no harm.’  We do harm when we fail to insert the human component into our transactions.  And when the harm is so pervasive, we may lose our best qualities to expediency.  We are all vulnerable to this dead end cycle–both as participants or victims.

  • goldengrahme

    Ever see the move, “Groundhog Day?”  The protagonist, played by Bill Murray, if memory serves, keeps reliving the same day over and over…

    We may just be caught in a time warp.

  • Sassy

    The A Whale, a behemothic ship, arrived in Roanoke on Thursday and will travel to the Gulf next week.
    A couple of weeks ago, oowawa posted a link about this ship.
    It has the capacity to process huge amounts of water and remove oil, IF their technology works. To date, it is unproven, and they will also need waivers, for the discharged water will still contain a percentage of oil.

  • Breeze

    -

    Can Kevin Costner Save the Gulf?

    Townhall,
    by Meredith Jessup   

    Original Article

    6/27/2010 

    Not gonna lie–it’s been pretty strange hearing Kevin Costner’s name thrown in the mix with potential solutions for bringing relief to the areas affected most by the ongoing Deepwater Horizon oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. Reportedly, the actor has invested $20 million and spent the past 15 years in developing an “oil-separating centrifuge,” and so far, BP is giving the device a thumbs up. In fact, Yahoo! News reports that the company is ordering more than 30 of the Costner centrifuges to help in the Gulf cleanup.

  • daffy48

    Thank you Golden for your links and helping to educate the public to the dangers of the new deep gas well drilling. 

  • FLDemFem

    This is OT, but very amusing..and telling. It’s a story about the Hispanic boycott in Victoria, TX, and the result. Here is the story, have a good laugh..I did.


    “Victoria, Texas is a town about 80 miles west of Houston. Local Hispanic leaders there, in opposition to pending Immigration Legislation, boycotted all Caucasian owned businesses last month in a demonstration of their economic impact on the community. The boycott was declared a success by the Hispanic leaders noting that the revenue in Caucasian owned businesses was down 19%. Business owners declared the boycott as success as well, noting that shoplifting was reduced by 77%, money orders sent out of the country were down by 97%, and the cost of daily clean-up and trash collection was down by 84%. Shoppers reported they could actually hear English being spoken throughout the community  for the first time in recent memory, and customers paid for purchases with real money, not government debit cards or food stamps!”

    So much for economic impact, teehee. It costs more to clean up after them than they bring into the stores. Interesting.

  • Breeze

    -

    Tropical Storm Alex sets
    sights on Gulf of Mexico

    Associated Press,
    by Patrick E. Jones   

    Original Article

    6/27/2010 

    BELIZE CITY – Tropical Storm Alex headed overland toward the Gulf of Mexico early Sunday, drenching Belize, northern Guatemala and Mexico’s Yucatan Peninsula with torrential rains. Meteorologists project Alex, which made landfall on Belize’s coast late Saturday, will weaken as it passes over the Yucatan Peninsula but will regain strength once it emerges Sunday evening over the Gulf of Mexico, where warm waters could fuel its growth into a hurricane. According to the most recent predictions, Alex is expected to make a second landfall midweek on the Mexican Gulf coast —

  • getfitnow

    To clarify–Carville was saying that POTUS wasn’t being briefed.

  • Breeze

    -
    Thanks, FDF -

    We can certainly use a little chuckle now and then…..

    And here is more GOOD NEWS:

    Collateral Damage in
    Obama’s War on Arizona

    Townhall,
    by Austin Hill   

    Original Article

    6/27/2010

    It wasn’t all that long ago when they fawned over him. But now, three congressional Democrats from Arizona are twisting in the wind, as their beloved party leader President Barack Obama continues to punish their cash-strapped state with a costly and unpopular law suit to prevent the implementation of Arizona’s new illegal immigration law. It’s Obama versus the people – with congressional Democrats caught in the middle. (Snip) And today, Congressman Harry Mitchell appears to be on a path to electoral defeat, because of eighteen months of cheerleading and adoration of a President with a very self-serving agenda.

  • Sassy

    FlDemFem, that is funny! Don’t you just love it when a plan goes so well?

  • Sassy

    Breeze, an Arizona congresswoman, reacted to announcements that the Department of Education, as well as Border Security, had canceled trips to Arizona. Officials denied the accuracy of her statement and left her exposed. LOL! 

  • Sassy

    Good find Breeze! You are working overtime!

  • FLDemFem

    Breeze, here is the National Hurricane Center link where you can track the storm. The five day track does not look like it will come back into the Gulf. I say this from experience in FL with hurricanes. I watch them carefully all season long, even if they aren’t in my area. Once it gets over land and falls apart, there may be peripheral storms that will travel east and affect the oil spill/cleanup, but other than that, it should stay over Mexico. Of course, there was that hurricane that set records for the number of landfalls in one state, FL. Came over my house twice. So there is no telling, but given the usual weather patterns, and usual behavior, that tropical depression shouldn’t pose a threat to the oil spill/recovery area. You might want to bookmark the Hurricane Center, it’s a very handy site for information on hurricanes.

  • kenoshamarge

    Oh well then never mind. I definately feel like Roseanne Roseannadanna, aka Gilda Radner from back in the days when I actually watched and enjoyed SNL.

    However, to get my dander back up, why on earth would Oblahblah be getting briefed? No one want to bother him on the golf course?

  • kenoshamarge

    :-[ Oh well then never mind. I definately feel like Roseanne Roseannadanna, aka Gilda Radner from back in the days when I actually watched and enjoyed SNL. 
     
    However, to get my dander back up, why on earth wouldn’t Oblahblah be getting briefed? No one want to bother him on the golf course?

  • kenoshamarge

    I suspect it’s willfull ignorance Candymarl. If they allow themselves to “know” instead of “believe” they just might have to change their mind. And that would never do. Because they might just find that the people they have been mocking and attacking for so long weren’t the enemy. And the ones who’s boots they’ve been licking, were.

  • tango

    This is my favorite part of Jindal’s speech when talking about the devastation to the local economy due to the drilling ban:

    (in response to the Federal Gov) “Do your job so thousands of Louisianians don’t lose our jobs”.

    I don’t think he needed a written speech scrolled on 3 telemprompters to show passion, frustration and empathy for the citizens in his state. 

    I know Jindal gave a clunker of a GOP response to Obamas first major speech as President, but I don’t necessarily blame him. I don’t think many of us would do that well, reading off a teleprompter as we looked straight ahead into a camera in an empty room with no feedback.  The substance of the speech was a lot better than the delivery. But I’ve seen Jindal speak to a live crowd and he’s good and I suspect much smarter than Obama. So I’m glad to see he’s getting his mojo back.

  • Guest

    And Police and Sheriff Department employees across Arizona will be required to enforce costly new provisions of SB 1070 ? No way the city and county public safety budgets can accommodate the new requirements — while their total budgets are being reduced.

    I hope the DOJ does challenge the law on the grounds of subjecting people to racial profiling and for usurping the federal government’s power to enforce immigration law — and then step up and assist in the determination of immigration status of detained suspects.

  • Breeze

    -

    Thanks, FDF -

    We keep a tight watch over the weather/hurricanes here in the St. Pete
    /Clearwater area, even if there is no oil spill.

    I have been here 21 years now and the ‘hurricane drill’ has become second
    nature by now.  Got all my food, water, batteries, etc. in working order by
    June first.

    Of course, this year it’s double/triple alert….

    Anybody heard the rumor about the HUGE methane bubble under the oil
    well that is about to burst and could send a tsuname to overwhelm all
    of Florida and most of the Gulf states?

    I try not to pay attention, but it’s hard not to worry.  I have young great-
    grandaughters….

  • Armymom

    Ellen, when she first posted, as you could tell, I was an ass. But then I walked away from the computer and it hit me. I’ve said before that I lost a brother to a trench collapse. I won’t go into all the details, but to suffice to say, I was all of a sudden in daffy’s shoes. Even though we haven’t had any problems for all of our years, doesn’t mean that they haven’t. There has to be a happy medium but that still didn’t mean I had a right to unload on her.  It brought back the frustrations of what we went through and NO ONE deserves to have that happen to them.

  • Seymour

    LOL Onofre….

    And here I thought it was me…..

  • Breeze

    -

    Learning the rules of an unengaged president  
     
     
    By MARK STEYN  
    Syndicated columnist     
     
    What do Gen. McChrystal and British Petroleum have in common? Aside from the fact that they’re both Democratic Party supporters.    
       
    Or they were. Stanley McChrystal is a liberal who voted for Obama and banned Fox News from his HQ TV. Which may at least partly explain how he became the first U.S. general to be lost in combat while giving an interview to Rolling Stone: They’ll be studying that one in war colleges around the world for decades. The management of BP were unable to vote for Obama, being, as we now know, the most sinister duplicitous bunch of shifty Brits to pitch up offshore since the War of 1812. But, in their “Beyond Petroleum” marketing and beyond, they signed on to every modish nostrum of the eco-Left. Their recently retired chairman, Lord Browne, was one of the most prominent promoters of cap-and-trade. BP was the Democrats’ favorite oil company. They were to Obama what Total Fina Elf was to Saddam.

     
    READ THE REST HERE: 
     
    http://www.ocregister.com/opinion/obama-255034-one-president.html

  • Breeze

    -
    FROM THE COMMENTS:

    “Oh come on now, give the poor guy a break.

    It’s a huge job to tear down a successful country like the US and build a Marxist utopia in its place.

    He really doesn’t have time to be distracted by trivia like massive oil spills and silly wars.”

  • candymarl

    That is an awesome comment Breeze! Wish I’d said it.

  • goldengrahme

    Thank you, Daffy for your insights and posting personal knowledge on this drilling problem.  This is how we learn from one another.  Hopefully these
    exercises in democracy will bear fruit and we can push back against unconscienable practices.

    And thanks to Rev Amy and all who participate in this, our highest form of free
    expression.  I am thankful every day for the Internet;  have found a podium from which to vent my frustration.  The origin of the term, “soap box” came from the public square version of Web debates, blogs, or political boards. 

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  • Breeze

    DITTO, Candy!!!

  • Breeze

    -

    ALEX WEAKENS TO TROPICAL DEPRESSION OVER MEXICO

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100627/ap_on_re_us/tropical_weather

  • Sassy

    Breeze, Docelder posted a video from the History Channel about methane bubbles, but I don’t remember which thread it was on…about a week ago, I think. Maybe oowawa still has it.

  • socalannie

    Another great post Rev Amy.  I’m wondering why doesn’t LA go ahead and build their berms anyway?  Whats the worst that could happen?  If the WH overreacts and arrests people or does some other stupid thing, it would at least bring this to the public notice, which would cause a backlash against this admin.  Most people don’t even know whats going on here.  If my house was on fire and the govt told me not to try to put it out, I sure as hell wouldn’t listen to them.

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