Howard Fineman Enumerates Obama’s Electability Problems

It took them a while, didn’t it?

No, I guess the fact that 20% of West Virginia primary voters said race was a factor in their voting was just some good ol boys joking, there’s no racism that affects voting. You can pretend racism won’t be a factor in the election, but you’d be lying.

I hope Fineman got KO’s OK before writing this!

If Ob loses in November, it will be Hillary’s fault.
She’s been set up to take the fall. Of course, this is absurd, but I can hear the Obots now.

The shine is off the apple. It’s another normal apple now, and the buyer’s are looking elsewhere.
There’s a fresh apple in the store now, and that’s what people want, someone who is one of them.

Ob’s Chicago team has been outflanked and they don’t know how to respond.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/13/battlegrounds-florida-pennsylvania-breaking-for-mccain/

Zogby has McCain ahead in PA, VA, CO and NH!

And 93% of blacks voting for the black candidate is ALSO a racial thing. There that side as well but people like you would say “it’s all good”! Right?
Who needs to judge based on the character or content of a person when it’s so MUCH easier to go just on skin color alone.

You can pretend that Obama is qualified to be president and can carry Idoho, Montana…and other red states. You will also be lying. Don’t forget he NEVER actually won the primary, he was pushed down our throat by the Dean and the DNC.

Fineman is a little late on the draw. Although now that “The One” is tanking, I guess, the excuses for the media’s adoration will need to be explained away, analyzed and “put into perspective.”

It’s not like they’re going to admit they were dead wrong from the start.

But shortly after the primaries ended, I remember reading several articles from “unnamed Dems” who said the Obama folks were insufferable with their swaggering and arrogance. They didn’t need any advice because they had beat the Clinton machine.

Surpise!

Hubris is Obama’s Achilles’ heel. He started believing his own PR.

Fatal mistake.

Camp Obama seems to be on the offensive big time the last few days.

McCain has these 2 gifts, the misediting of the Palin interview and the computer ad, yet NOTHING from Camp McCain ?????

The Obots are playing the race card again except this time no one cares. You’re preachin’ to the choir……

Surely Fineman has been aching to state the obvious and does so now because he’s finally tanking and he needs all the advice he can get.

Actually, asshole, I think it’s equally stupid for blacks to vote based on race, so don’t declare what “people like me” say, shithead.

Sorry to link to the Kos kids, but look at this:

The solution rests with local surrogates on the ground spreading the attack face to face coupled with an air campaign via radio and TV.

The message is simple and the professionals can refine it but essentially it should contain these elements:

“Sarah Palin? Can’t keep her solemn oath of devotion to her husband and had sex with his employee. Sarah Palin? Accidentally got pregnant at age 43 and the tax payers of Alaska have to pay for the care of her disabled child. Sarah Palin? Unable to teach her 16 year old daughter right from wrong and now another teenager is pregnant. Sarah Palin? Can you trust Sarah Palin and her values with America’s future? John McCain? Divorced from his first wife one month and marries a billionaire influence peddler and convicted felon. John McCain, a record of rash and impulsive decisions. That’s not change that’s more of the same.”

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/12/104315/182/935/596046

Now does any one not believe that this is coming from the Obama campaign? It just happens to have their signature (now meaningless) convention narrative of, “that’s not change, that’s more of the same.” Cute, but will people really buy these vicious rumors coming from local Dem officials, or will they take it out on the party?? They are treading on some thin ice here — middle American politics does not work like it does in Chicago. I thought they would have realized that by now.

I’ll bet Obama is running the whole thing. All the defensive, snarky stuff like giving the finger, releasing his VP pick at 3:00 AM, ads about McCain’s lack of intenet savvy etc. are the result of sessions with the boyz.

Obama – That b@tch with her hockey mom joke.
Axelrod – Yeah.
Obama – Know what I oughtta do?
Axelrod – Yeah, yeah!
Obama – I’ll say something about ..
Axelrod – About ..
Obama – A pig in lipstick
Axelrod – A pig in lipstick ha ha ha

So Mamet-esque.

Obama campaign: see ya suckas!!

I’ve said this elsewhere here…I think there will be a black Bradley Effect. I have a feeling that a lot more blacks dislike Obama than are letting on, due to all the pressure. I bet a lot of them are going to pull the lever for McCain once in the voting booth.

It’s just a feeling I have…could be wrong…but I think enough of them will go McCain who might have otherwise indicated Obama. I’m sure there are plenty of blacks who don’t want Obama in there, giving elected blacks a bad name.

Yep. The fact that Fineman feels that he can state the obvious at this point says volumes about Obama’s campaign. None of it good.

don’t worry. when there has been disaster in TX no one cares. McCain will come out at the perfect time.

I hope when they hit back it knocks Barry to the canvas.

If you’re not racist and you know you’re not racist then you don’t have to vote for the black man to prove to yourself or other people that you’re not racist.
Get it?

Not racist, not voting for incompetent Obama.

well you singled out 20% Virginia “good ole boys” and didn’t mention the 93% of nationwide blacks voting for Obama so YOU ARE THE ASSHOLE.

you absolutely correct . . . obama’s storm troopers have really frightened a lot of black people into not revealing their true feelings (i.e., will vote for McCain); they know that obama is an “affirmative action” candidate in the worst sense. The democratic party did what some coporations have done and still do sometimes . . . choose a token “person of color” to keep the natives from getting too restless; however, it won’t work because the U.S.Presidency is too important too intrust it in the hands of an incompetent, bigoted, empty-headed radical “The Big Zero” aka BO who is full of BS.

I know some white people who support Obama BECAUSE HE IS BLACK. For Them too “race is a factor”.

you are absolutely correct . . . obama’s storm troopers have really frightened a lot of black people into not revealing their true feelings (i.e., will vote for McCain); they know that obama is an “affirmative action” candidate in the worst sense. The democratic party did what some coporations have done and still do sometimes . . . choose a token “person of color” to keep the natives from getting too restless; however, it won’t work because the U.S.Presidency is too important too intrust it in the hands of an incompetent, bigoted, empty-headed radical “The Big Zero” aka BO who is full of BS.

And if Obsma had been a qualified candidate with core convictions, I don’t believe his race would have kept him from winning. People that supportewd him are moving away from him, not because of his race but because of his character or lack therte of.

The MSM should come out now and say they were in the tank for Obama. We here at NQ where the FIRST to point out that Obama was an arrogant SOB. Unqualified bastard. Now Howard Fineman is calling Obama what we have called Obama all along………. bingo!

“He’s an arrogant S.O.B.,”….. Howard Fineman.

And if Obsma had been a qualified candidate with core convictions, I don’t believe his race would have kept him from winning. People that supportewd him are moving away from him, not because of his race but because of his character or lack thereof.

I’m sorry, I disagree. 93% is a very high number. I just think the majority have had it ingrained into their thinking that they are “owed”….incompetent or not.

“He’s an arrogant S.O.B.,” one of the latter told me today. “He wants to do it his way, and his way alone.”

Obama’s cry was to unite the country but he can’t collaborate with others. It’s difficult to believe he attended Harvard Law School since they have the Program on Negotiation with William Ury as a Professor. Ury is well known for teaching collaboration and mediation skills.

Also, I think most people feel that the Palin attacks by the MSM are coming from BO’s campaign.

My apolitical 71 year-old neighbor was watching the news at my house and asked that we change the channel when a Palin-bashing story came on. She said that she’s so disgusted with BO. So, I asked her if she thinks BO was referring to Palin with his lipstick remark, and her response was, “Definitely.” She concluded with BO is showing his true colors.

I don’t know, I think Obama is losing some of his self esteem. Only one word describes the incident when Obama was standing next to Prez Clinton during the a press conference and that word is desperation. I’m paraphrasing but Obama said something like this…See, the former President said I’d win…ha ha ha ha

Yes, of course when things are going wrong Fineman is going to come out and write this. He can then claim he never believed the hype. But we all know better.

I dont mean to offend anybody on this site. I am a Republican, and it is obvious that most posters on this site are democrats, but we have joined together to defeat a common enemy…Obama

Which I mean is a good thing in alot of ways I guess, because maybe it might bring Republicans and democrats closer together and allow both sides to kind of see things from the others point of view, which would never of happened if we had not united against obama.

But you guys are still wanting McCain to run a kerry type campaign, which is a mistake. And McCain is obliging you.

I am in it to win it, and I dont care how. I dont blame Obama for trying to get away with as much stuff as possible. If I knew my opponet was not going to respond or call me out on anything, then I would be doing all sorts of dirty stuff also. If I owned a TV station and knew that I could use my Tv station as a schill for my candidate, I would, so I dont blame ABC for editing that interview, because they knew McCain would never call them out on it.

Early voting starts in 2 weeks. NOW is the time to nail bambis ass to the wall. If I was McCain I would march into the ABC officed and DEMAND that issue a retraction for the interview and admit it was edited unfairly. I would tell them if they wanted to use some poor schmuck in the editing department as the fall guy they could, just as long as they let people know the interview was unfairly edited.

I would blast back at how little class Obama has for running that ad, considering McCains past POW injuries.

If I had the whitey tapes they would be out before the early voting starts. I would start running ads now with Rev Wright, and him not saluting the flag, and him saying we needed to learn spanish. Then after those ads ran for awhile hit him with Ayers and Rezko in ads.

Ding ding ding ding ding! Correct answer, tek!

Count me as another not racist, not needing to prove I’m not racist, and not voting for incompetent Obama.

I’ve always believed that Obama has clinical Narcisstic Personality Disorder (NPD)–which goes way, way beyond loving one’s image in a mirror. It’s always based upon an empty, low self-esteem core, usually derived from an abusive and/or childhood where one is ‘abandoned’ in some way, and always, always, ends poorly for the Narcissist and those closest to the Narcissist. Let’s hope the U.S as a whole doesn’t end up being one of “those closest to” the Narcissist. I am convinced now after watching him get so unnerved by Gov. Palin’s coming on the scene. A person with NPD simply cannot abide anyone stealing their limelight.

Ahhh the unity, I feel it washing over me.

Not that it excuses racism, but Black voters are almost all democrats – even before “The One” blessed us with his candidacy.

To my way of thinking it doesnt really help the democrat party at all to run a Black candidate. Hillary would have gotten the Black vote too.

It gets interesting when Black republicans run for office.

Many AA can’t stand the “it’s because I’m black” thing.

First of all, “wodlej”, it was West Virginia, moron. Second of all, I didn’t have to note how blacks vote to make the point that racism will be a factor in the election, so actually you are both an asshole and really stupid. Learn to think before you type.

It’s been said that if Obama wasn’t black he be John Edwards, washed up.

Well he surrounds himself with “no drama” sycophantic advisors. (“No drama” = never question The One.)

Anne Kornblut wrote once that all his top advisors are very soft-spoken, and all are veterans of only losing campaigns. David Plouffe, Kornblut said, speaks so quietly that reporters frequently have to ask him to repeat his statements in a louder voice.

I was just thinking if Obama’s followers blame Hillary for his lost, then they would be saying SHE was right. She said he could not win in the G E. So they would acknowledge that a woman was able to knock him off his pedestal.

Wow, that’s empowering.

If they blame Hillary and her voters, they admit they heard woman and PUMA roar.

Seems the obats are stuck between a barrack and a hard place.

If it’s just an additional 10% that gets shaved off for the general election, however…

I’m not expecting 50% to defect, but I seriously doubt if 95% are going to vote Obama. I look at it this way…if I really thought Palin was incompetent (which I don’t), I might be inclined to vote against her so all women don’t look bad. Obama has been looking worse and worse lately…that has to have some people thinking.

Hey I agree with you. I’ve been saying this all along. Don’t underestimate what Barky will do to win this election. Throw all you have at him, I’ll buy extra batches of popcorn to enjoy the show.

But but but … in his convention speech, The One told the masses “this isn’t about me. It’s about you.” Isn’t that all the proof you need?

BHO either didn’t enroll in Ury’s class or failed it–maybe that’s why his Harvard grades are sealed.

Believe the hype? He was part of the hype. Olbermann loved him.

And you are crazed with your circles logic.

Video here.

The One also said of the former president, “we’re putting him to work” on the campaign trail.

The One is sooo transparent.

finally the mask is off

Yes, something was definitely ‘off’ about his manner in that clip. Whereas Bill C looked completely relaxed and somewhat amused by the whole thing.

Correct, and I’m never voting for anybody of any race who can’t take a straight stand on infanticide. (Cf. Obama’s highly equivocal remarks and record on this issue).

Well I guess they have to write something to get paid.

The press always sees tomorrow to be exactly like today. If today was a boom day on Wall Street tomorrow will be even better until there is a bust. Then if today was bad, tomorrow we will al be living in cardboard Bushvilles..

The reality is that the real campaign does not begin until September 29. The idiots who elected Bush twice only have a six week attention span until their synapses start leaking. This always escapes the electorate but the players who control your lives bank on it.

The reality is that McCain’s post-convention bounce is now a statistical memory and that having Palin staked out like a tethered goat is taking a diminishing amount of heat off McCain. Christ even Baba WaWa tore him a new one.

The reality also is that BIG DOG likely got his pound of flesh (Richardson twisting in the wind, anyone?) during his two hour chat and will be online 1200 Zulu 29 September .

We are back to a dead heat, just like the primary.

We have another 2-1/2 weeks of this phoney war before this gets very interesting.

I totally agree with that assessment, and think it also explains why he can’t let go of attacking Sarah Palin himself – her mocking of him during her acceptance speech at the RNC was an infliction of a narcissistic injury. He seems to me to truly be a classic case!

I think he is concentrating on the hurricane going on in Texas right now. I’m not a political anaylst so I have no idea what their plan is but I am sure they have one. Their next ad may even be something like “while John McCain was doing all he could for Texas hit by a devastating hurrican, Obama was running petty ads”. I know the Republicans….I think they are waiting until very close to voting time for the worst crap they have on Obama. They want to make sure it sticks when people go to vote. Do it too soon, it will wear off by the time people vote. I think they may also see that Obama is just burying himself on his own and it is better if he does it to himself rather than their campain.

The last poll I saw said 83% for BO and 17% for JM.

No “whitey” tapes. Wasn’t there a denial in reference to the tapes”

The enemy of my enemy is my friend

Did you see him on Letterman talking about Palin? “Well, speaking as somebody who has been on the cover of Time and Newsweek multiple times … and he he, Popular Mechanics asked me to pose on their cover, holding a wrench, speaking as someone with that experience I can say she’s on a wild ride.” (paraphrase).

He was so transparent! She’s getting all the attention.

McCain has more class than that, as Hillary does. Look what the negative ads have done for BHO (among other things)—he’s tanking in the polls. Look at how McCain survived the Hanoi Hilton—he “knows” how to deal with the so-called “enemy.” Let’s not underestimate him. I, for one, never having voted for a Republican in my life, have gained greater respect for McCain because of his staying “classy.” One reason I could not identify with the Republicans at all was because of the nasty Rovian attacks against Democratic leaders. But I will be voting for McCain/Palin—there’s such a thing as human decency. BHO has failed the test and McCain is passing it.

But, don’t worry, the 527′s are coming against BHO—a couple have already come out and after October 1, we’re going to see a slew of them.

You’re dreamin’, all of the polls show McCain climbing and Obama dropping.

I guess you tried to say “circular logic”, beverly leslie, and based on your brilliant writing, I have a feeling you wouldn’t be able to explain exactly what’s circular about my logic. It’s depressing to be reminded over and over how many stupid people there are.

Oh dear lord Barky is sooo fake in this clip.

Can anyone say uncomfortable?

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hillary or bust — I read that he was told 6% will not vote for him because of his color. It doesn’t show up in polls but its there.

It’s very telling looking at NPR’s electoral map here: http://www.npr.org/news/specials/election2008/2008-election-map.html#/president-nprOvM/

And comparing it to Obama’s primary wins here:
news.aol.com/elections/primary/main/democrats

Of the primary states he won, (including those he cheated to win)
He’s carrying or leading in the following states in the General map:
WA, OR, MN, CO, WI, IL, HI, ME, VT, CT, MD, DE, DC, with a combined electoral value of: 102 votes.

Of the primaries he “won” but is not carrying in the Gen. he’s lost or is losing the following states: ID, MT, WY, UT, NE, KS, MO, AK, LA, MS, GA, SC, NC, VA, combined worth of 106 votes.

He brings less than half what he claimed he was worth to the General.
One has to reach 270 to get the job. He’s only bringing 102. That means to win he would have to be given the states Hillary won, by people who chose her over him! And he would need more of them; 168 electoral votes worth than he was ever able to actually earn on his own.

Any way you crunch the numbers, the dude is pretty much worth LESS!

I know he was part of the hype. Just my way of saying he’s trying to distance himself from it now that it’s tanking. LOL.

Thanks for the link. “There ya go”

Hey, don’t forget along with the Narcissistic Personality Disorder, he’s passive-aggressive. Every time he was losing a primary, he would come out with some slimey/underhanded/covert attack on Hillary—middle-finger, calling the Clintons racist, saying she’s “likeable” enough, et al. GWB has NPD and is passive-aggressive, too. I’ve had enough of a psychologically/emotionally imbalanced POTUS of the last 8 years to put up with another one.

He, like GWB, cannot admit when they are wrong—their weak egos cannot take responsibility or be accountable. Any wrong mistake they have made is always somebody else’s fault.

Typical Barky supporter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS7nqwGt4-I

15% of WV voters went for Edwards who had dropped out of the race after SC. Do you think race AND gender might have affected their decision-making? Nah. And WV has a Lebanese-American Muslim in office who endorsed Obama, Rep. Nick Rahall. Sen. Robert C. Byrd endorsed Obama after the state primary, as well.

KOS/troll conspiracy theory: Clearly Howard Fineman has purchased popcorn futures and is pushing for trouble for Ohitler!

One way or another, the race factor cancels itself out. The argument denies that other prejudices are involved, too.

I imagine it will be mentioned on the talk shows tomorrow by a surrogate.

If Fineman is now writing stuff like this, clearly the rats are beginning to recognize the ship may be sinking.

The problem for Obama is that such predictions become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Obama campaign depends heavily on the perception of invincibility and inevitability. Once these are gone, what have you got?

Ah, that explains the Severus Snape-ishness.

And the Obamabots are the second-rate Death Eaters: the Crabbes and the Goyles.

That’s sophisticated stuff, HARP. You can make lame, irrelevant jokes. You seem qualified for the Republican vice-presidential nomination.

Obama will be on Saturday Night Live tonight in a skit with Tina Fey (Sarah Palin). He has been warned against doing this at this time as it will only fan the flames.

All you’ve got are the fact that he’s smarter than either Republican candidate and his policies are better.

I wouldn’t be lying if I said it. It probably will be to an extent. But it sure didn’t help Barry that he is such an asshole himself. He never once reached out to us Hillary supporters… not once. What’s up with that? He sent her out to campaign for him in exchange for help with her debt and he couldn’t even do that. Why should we vote for him? Not one reason I have heard other than ‘you have no where else to go’, well, sorry, I do. And I will.

Sarah Palin? Accidentally got pregnant at age 43 and the tax payers of Alaska have to pay for the care of her disabled child. Sarah Palin? Unable to teach her 16 year old daughter right from wrong and now another teenager is pregnant. Sarah Palin? Can you trust Sarah Palin and her values with America’s future?

OMG–I hope they run this! This will sink that rat for sure. Are those little punks at the big orange planet in the 12th grade this year? I’m starting to wonder if they’ve ever moved out of mom & dad’s basement.

No, I used “circles” purposely. And I wouldn’t expect your pea brain to understand why or grasp that your mind is crazed.

See ya, Circles!

Way to get people to listen to your point of view. You’re doing a helluva job there, bjd!

Agreed–BHO looked almost “sheepish” standing next to Bill. I wish Bill had let him have it about BHO’s surrogate’s calling the Clintons racists. Maybe he did let him have it, maybe that’s why BHO looked so pitiful.

I think Bill is just being a good Dem., saying he’ll go to work for him (but won’t really)—BHO knows that he needs him now, so he’s being phoney in his deference toward Bill.

Yes, Obama has cancelled his SNL event tonight because of the disaster in TX and has gone home to Chicago. He’s probably just too tired-out.

Mr. Fineman’s explanation, although cute, is at best tripe.

Pride is not why Obama is quickly falling behind.

Obama is lost in the woods of the forest because he really does not have a vision. It is not pride but rather ignorance that is causing his campaign to collide with an overwhelmingly large solid steel wall.

Mr. Obama says in his own words, lacking a sense of feeling for constituency, that people in the U.S. still cling to their guns and religion. But why is this ignorance? Because if you stop to think about it, this statement is more damning and revealing than anything Republicans could have dreamed up to use against Mr. Obama.

First, it tells of a disconnect with what voters in much of America consider near and dear. This is the stuff of mother and apple pie — our Constitution.

Gun ownership is a deep rooted, God given right that Mr. Obama seems to have absolutely no grip on. People want to feel secure and they’ll elect John McCain in order to feel more comfortable with their guns.

Secondly, Mr. Obama has attacked the very core of over 80% of Americans by suggesting that they somehow should overcome their faith and their convictions. Recall that recently Mr. Obama said that the United States is no longer a country of Christians. Mr. Obama, over 75% of American’s are Christian; therefore, this is a Christian country.

Or, is it that Mr. Obama has a hidden agenda: one that would remove religion and worship from all Americans. Is Obama’s declared plan to socialize America, to an unacceptable extreme, part of the reason he doesn’t grasp the faith and values of the people.

It will be a long fought battle.

But make no mistake, Barack Obama’s depraved intentions and the socialist ideas he conspires to execute subliminally — intended for those who would fall for his wretchedness — COME OOZING OUT IN HIS SPEECHES.

Contrast this to the good intentions of John McCain and you can see why Mr. Obama is losing ground quickly. Putting ‘Country First’ is not what Obama is about. For if it were, and he showed some intelligence, he would vote for McCain.

See my news regarding the SNL cancellation above.

Barky’s going to be so proud. I see this is the new brilliant strategy of the droids at the big, angry orange planet.

Oh, OK, Beverly Leslie, you intentionally used language that made no sense, you’ve really demonstrated how sharp you are. And of course, you’ve still been completely unable to explain why my logic is circular (because you can’t, of course.) I think it’s pretty clear who’s got the “pea brain.” But you’re not embarrassed by your stupidity, you flaunt it! What wonderful self-esteem you have!

I was reading about Fidel Castro tonight and I saw a great deal of similarities between him and Obama.

First I realized they have the same astrological sign. Both born in Aug. under the sign of Leo, both community organizers.

Although Castro’s free health care and redistribution of wealth appeared to be compassionate, the people ultimately lost their freedom. Below are the parts I found interesting.

Fidel Castro, the illegitimate son of a successful Creole sugar plantation owner, was born in Cuba Aug. 13, 1926. He was a rebellious boy and at the age of thirteen helped to organize a strike of sugar workers on his father’s plantation.

Fidel was sent to a Jesuit boarding school. Although he disliked the strict discipline of the school, Fidel soon showed that he was extremely intelligent. However, except for history, he preferred sports to academic subjects.

After he had finished his education Castro became a lawyer in Havana Castro’s experience as a lawyer made him extremely critical of the great inequalities in wealth that existed in Cuba. Like many other Cubans, Castro resented the wealth and power of the American businessmen who appeared to control the country.

In 1952 Fidel Castro became a candidate for Congress for the Cuban People’s Party. He was a superb public speaker and soon built up a strong following amongst the young members of the party

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posted by TriciaNC on Bitterpoliticz:
The list of questions posed by Gibson to Barack Obama three months ago, who has arguably less experience on foreign policy than Palin and no executive experience at all:

Obama interview:

How does it feel to break a glass ceiling?
How does it feel to “win”?
How does your family feel about your “winning” breaking a glass ceiling?
Who will be your VP?
Should you choose Hillary Clinton as VP?
Will you accept public finance?
What issues is your campaign about?
Will you visit Iraq?
Will you debate McCain at a town hall?
What did you think of your competitor’s [Clinton] speech?

Palin interview:

Do you have enough qualifications for the job you’re seeking? Specifically have you visited foreign countries and met foreign leaders?
Aren’t you conceited to be seeking this high level job?
Questions about foreign policy
-territorial integrity of Georgia
-allowing Georgia and Ukraine to be members of NATO
-NATO treaty
-Iranian nuclear threat
-what to do if Israel attacks Iran
-Al Qaeda motivations
-the Bush Doctrine
-attacking terrorists harbored by Pakistan
Is America fighting a holy war? [misquoted Palin]

I understand your sentiments here. Everyone wants to win.

However, I am a PUMA who has been suffering many emotionally draining days because of the betrayal I feel was perpetrated on women by the party I’ve favored since ’72. I knew that I would not be able to vote for Obama since I had witnessed the Obama dirty dealings during the primary and had stood flabbergasted as Democrats I used to like betrayed democratic principles to select a candidate against the people’s wishes. So I’ve been agonizing over how to vote.

But lately I’ve been pulled toward McCain by McCain’s seeming real gentlemanliness so far. I was impressed that Hillary said several times that if she lost the primary, she felt she could work with McCain if he were elected President. There were many times she indicated her friendship with him. I was very impressed when I watched an unstaged sincere answer to a reporter’s question about Alex Castellanos’ calling Hillary a “white witch” on national t.v. He seemed sincerely sad that someone would say that and defended her. He seems quite humble in his ability to choose Palin as a VP.

I was so sickened by the nasty politics of the Bush cronies that I am not eager to have McCain use them if he doesn’t have to. There is no need to destroy a person if you can win in a more dignified way. I want him to win fairly with no sense that he used nasty tactics. I want the Democrats like me who have been abandoned by our party to feel happy with our decision to go over to McCain. If McCain is elected, and I am feeling it more probable every day, I want his Presidency to be one that we can all be proud of. He will have to work to win the Obamabots just as he has done a good job of winning many of the PUMAs. We do need a more unified country.

It will be impossible for Obama to prevent history from discovering his many failings as a candidate and his hubris in thinking he could be President at this time. But I don’t want history to also show that McCain could kick a man who is obviously going down on his own.

But mostly, I want elections to somehow get out of this use of nasty, vicious tactics.

Or maybe they’ll just not vote – I kinda think that’s more likely than AAs actually pulling the lever for McCain – hope I’m wrong – I hope McCain gets lots and lots of AA votes, either because they trust him more or as pushback against the pressure they’re getting to vote barky.

Alinsky doesn’t have that in his manual.
By the way, did I see it here that Alinsky dedicated his book, Rules for Radicals, to Lucifer.
(True, checked it out on Urban Legends).

“We are the ones we’ve been waiting for” sounds awfully narcissistic to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyrMS6MBuSg

Smiling Jim — You are WRONG. The American people had 20 months to fall in love with Obama and he couldn’t close the deal despite the positive media attention he has received. 69% of Americans believe the media is in the tank for Obama. 50% of people are sick of looking at him. Obama is done.

How are those polls looking loser.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/state-polls.html

But mostly, I want elections to somehow get out of this use of nasty, vicious tactics.

Ohitler started this disaster when he called the Clinton’s racists and threatened a race war if he is not elected. I think McCain has show remarkable restraint in light of rhese facts.

The problem is that Obama’s appeal to voters has never had a thing to do with policy. Obama got to where he is running on his personal narrative and charisma. Policies are not and have never been part and parcel of who he is.

Now that he is in trouble, so is lifting and parroting Hillary’s policies like mad, it is coming across as fake. She could run on issues, because she lived, breathed, and internalized good government. She knew it in her bones. Obama never did. He is suddenly trying to run as an imitation of her, and it is going over like a lead balloon. He sucks at it.

His personal mojo and “compelling story” has been his engine for his entire career, not his policies – and that engine is now out of gas.

I think my favorite part is that I have 6 weeks before my synapses start leaking.

LOL…Fools rush in. Can’t help themselves.

wow…..you sound really angry. Calm down little fella. I recommend a nice cup of tea! I know your precious is falling apart, naturally that could make even the bravest little cultist upset. It’ll be okay bjd….after Nov 4th, you can go back to playing video games and watching cartoons.

He’s an arrogant S.O.B.,” one of the latter told me today. “He wants to do it his way, and his way alone

So, short of superhuman prowess… which we aren’t seeing here… despite the daytime t.v. prophecy that he is “The One”… how is somebody like this going to be able to accomplish anything in Washington… let alone reform or change? We are seeing… outside of the fishbowl “body politic” that is Chicago… he will find himself very limited. We know “The One” has a weakness… We have seen his “kryptonite” and it is strong, confident and assertive women.

Love that karma. Since Barky broke his word and denied public financing, and had been spending like a drunken sailor, he’s got 6 more weeks to sell stock in the Titanic.

He had the look of a Chesire cat………meow!

But now–thanks to Obama’s divisive campaign–the Democrats have almost certainly lost the black vote.

Black voters will be furious when Obama gets creamed in November. Now that the Obama gang have smeared the Clintons, they will be unlikely to come back to the party.

Sarah Palin, is that you signing in as “beverly leslie”? I think I recognize that style and level of intelligence.

I dont mean to offend anybody on this site. I am a Republican, and it is obvious that most posters on this site are democrats, but we have joined together to defeat a common enemy…Obama

You don’t offend me…….we have a common goal

Barry Obama is that you? I think I recognize that latent hostility and passive aggressive banter.

Yes, what was that quotation about not murdering a man who is committing suicide?(figuratively, figuratively, figuartively, folks).

Actually if you must know, I am voting against the white half of Obama. The black half I have not decided if I am going to vote against him or for him but I am thinking that the white half has totally disappointed me so I am going to assume the same for Obama as a whole man.

No, “imustprotest”, the upsetting thing is how many half-witted morons constitute the Republican base, as demonstrated by these comments.

And a much higher percentage said the economy was the key issue. Let’s see, who was strongest on the economy in swing states and won over voters’ trust?

Clue: her name begins with an “H.”

You apologists for this weak and inexperienced candidate can whine and cry about race all you want. He’s going to lose because he didn’t earn the position.

I forgot to add Barry “bjd”….your misogynistic comments about Governor Palin!

of course it’s straight out of the campaign. they don’t even change the words after Palin’s former business partner said there was no affair.

Obama can only win elections by spreading sexual filth about his opponents. I can only hope that what works in the ghetto won’t work so well in a national election.

Although now that “The One” is tanking, I guess, the excuses for the media’s adoration will need to be explained away, analyzed and “put into perspective.”

Simple for the media, really. As they shove barky under the bus (after it’s become obvious he’s going to lose – since the media NEVER allow themselves to be on the “losing side,” donchaknow), it’ll just be a bunch of “He’s not the barky we once knew.”

Or, they’ll just rewrite (their own) history – “It’s like I ALWAYS SAID – the democrats should have vetted him!” Or, “Who me? I NEVER said barky was a good candidate – I ALWAYS said the dems should have picked Hillary…”

If you’re not a Republican, why do you care?

I hope you are ready to tivo McCain`s inauguration.

JM08,

Well, BO did unite many republicans and democrats, as you pointed out.

I certainly hope that this election season has taught us how wrong it is to be either too far to the right or too far to the left, because extremes in politics rarely, if ever, offer the best policies.

Consensus is only possible when both sides can meet somewhere in the middle and work together for a common cause that benefits the majority over the few. We haven’t had this kind of political climate in decades.

I think that electing McCain/Palin will open that door once again and change the political landscape in a positive way.

However, I also hope that these same republicans who are reaching out to us now to help elect McCain/Palin, because many democrats are willing to cross party lines and vote for the two mavericks, who we believe are better for the country than the more extreme left ticket of Obama/Biden, that they will remember this “unity” and be just as willing to cross party lines and vote for Hillary, should she decide to run in 2012 (since McCain has stated that he won’t seek a second term, if elected this time around).

While I genuinely like and respect Governor Palin and am willing to vote for her and McCain, I still believe Hillary is the most qualified person we’ve had run for president in decades. Because of that fact, I hope the moderate republicans will join democrats the next time around to help elect the most qualified person who will do even more for the country and not return to just voting the party line.

Don’t get me wrong, I would definitely vote for Governor Palin to be president someday, but not if Hillary decides to run in 2012. In fact, I would welcome the opportunity to vote for another extremely qualified woman for president, and I believe Palin could turn out to be one of the best, just like Hillary.

The way I see it, the most valuable lesson to come out of this election season is that many from both parties are willing to unite as “citizens” (not blind party loyalist) and put the best interest of our country first.

After all, that’s the main theme of McCain’s campaign.

Furious if he loses, yes. Violent, too. If Mr. O. loses there will be riots similar to the riots in 1968. Anarchists and black separatists will be back to bombing again.

Because you keep fucking up the country and the world.

Sooo true!

Bulls*it. This is an incorrect statement. You cannot say this for the US as a whole. Just your proximity. I am around many black union members and they are voting for him because he is black. They will tell you this. Now if I said to them that I am voting for McCain because he is white I would be called a racist and told what a bad bad person I am.

Don’t say that! We love Snape! Years he played the double-agent, times he protected our Boy Who Lived, sacrifices he made for a higher good! Don’t hold his earlier errors against him! So what if he was for the Bridge to Voldy before he was against it?!? He helped stop it, in the end!

This race is still close. Obama still has the media on his team. Unless McCain and the RNC go for the jugular at some point – Obama could win. Obama is a very weak candidate but if he is not attacked and forced to defend his real record the media will force him upon the country. The danger here is that the media is desperate to elect Obama for us. Clinton was rising when Bosnia became the only thing they would cover for weeks.

They will create another Bosnia event to hurt McCain.

What a disaster an Obama presidency would be. The Democrats would be a rump party by 2010.

Uh, er, um, ah, er, ee, ah, uh, um. Are you sure about that? If Obama is smarter than McCain, or Palin, uh, er, um, ee, ah, he hasn’t shown us yet.

For some reason you’re not supposed to be able to say this but: McCain really has run a gentlemanly campaign, and he keeps repeating “they want us to stop shouting at each other.” In his RNC speech he read the Republicans the riot act.

I think things may calm down once Oblablah loses. That is, if Oblahblah doesn’t cheat his way into the White House.

Fineman’s article has the usual sheen of CDS (Clinton Derangement Syndrome). The MSM just cannot resist casting them in a negative light–ever. They are “difficult,” and any help they will offer will be for their own vanity. I can’t stand reading any of it, because it’s always skewed, even when they are criticizing The One, which is quite rare.

At least he got the biggest Achilles heel right: pride.
And we all know the famous saying…

Pride goethe before the fall.

Have you ever wondered why the people in WV votes were racially motivated? Are they really racists? Could they have been turned of by the good Rev Wright? Maybe they felt that if Obama wins they will be subjected to racism? Could it be that they were simply disgusted by the 93% AA vote? I know I was. To ask some one “did race play any part in the way you voted” doesn’t really tell the story. Perhaps if the question was did you vote against Obama because he is black would have been a better way to ask. Anyways even if they are voting because of race, does saying so, make them more of a racist than someone who lies about it? What the pundits (Gergen) said about WV and Kentucky was laughable at best. He even went so far as to say that Hillary should give a speech saying that she doesn’t want those votes. Just take a look at the numbers. Even those good ole boys in WV couldn’t even come close to the 93% the AA achieved.

For Christ’s sake…shutup already! Go fight with your 3 year old.

I’m guessing that all those young male Obamabits are shocked that 43 year old women and their husbands still have sex. And they’re horrified. I wonder if they know most women hit their sexual peak when they turn 40. Poor dumb bastards.

And where did you see Elvis?

So Fineman discovered that “Obama’s an arrogant S.O.B.,”.

Fineman was listening, but now that he is on the wagon, and off the Kool Aid, his ears finally can hear.

beverly leslie — Howard Fineman was the first to come out for Obama and now he’s the first to walk away. This appears to be a signal by the media that they won’t continue to be in the tank for Obama. When 69% of people don’t trust the media its time they backed off Obama.

PK Jayne — yes we all have a common goal.

lol @ bjd.

I hate everyone! You are all stupid! So, will you do me a favor and vote for Obama?

lol..

I’m not a Republican. If your Obamasoretoro is so great, what are you worried about? You should be smoking a cigar and relaxing if what you say is true about the country and the world…this should be the year of the Democrat!! Oh yeah, little problemo….the DNC selected an weak empty suit..could’ve had Hillary, chose the know nothing-do nothing “community organizer”. Now who’s f#@ing up the world? I’d say Howie Dean & Co.

Here on the other side of the mirror it looks *very* good, actually.

I suspect the Obama campaign will push back over the next few days to minimize the effect of the Email ad, but former mayor Brown is right–when a politician is always having to explain, it’s not a good strategy for winning an election.

I know the union is pushing it out of their pie holes left and right how people are not voting for him because of his race. I have been to numerous things over the past couple weeks and this is always a main topic of what the unions are preaching these days.

“He’s an arrogant S.O.B.,”

Howard Fineman can lament ad nauseum about what he thinks Obama’s mistakes have been; however, the above statement is the absolute last word on the matter.

The Democrats have been at cross purpose…Clinton was always geared for the GE while Obama can’t get out of Primary Mode…

This is why The Arrogant One will lose…he was too impatient to learn how to handle himself in a GE. His “fierce urgency of now” bullshit appeals to first-time voters who want to caste a ballot for the type of behavior they can most identify with: I want it all, and I want it now.

He better pray a well funded 527 doesn’t get into his own alleged sexual/drug issues.

sowsear — You got it. There is another one — when a candidate is digging himself a hole let him keep digging.

These sons who didn’t meet with the approval of their politician dads sure make *^%#@&-up politicans.

Paul Hackett? Another Democratic loser playing armchair quarterback, touting a losing game plan. That’s not change either, that’s more of the same.

not politicans, politicians

What Jesse Jackson whispered as a wish, Bill Clinton delivered verbally, maybe?

What worries me is that if Obama loses then we will have to deal with him again in 4 years saying how he has more experience and he can do it this time and blah blah blah.

jm08 — its my hope as well that the Republicans become a more moderate middle of the road party because of the millions of Democrats who will help the Republicans elect McCain. I think they will remember that. Because now that we have switched party loyalties — we could do it again.

If he weren’t so arrogant, he would have said, “He is going to join our team . . .” or “he’s going to help us . . ”

no respect;
“He’ll work for us . . . ” shows he thinks of himself as the Boss and Bill Clinton his employee. His arrogance is truly perceptible.

Yay! another nice Obama supporter! You guys just do so much to attract folks to your candidate every time you post!

Well, one thing is absolutely clear. We all must boycott MSNBC, especially Keith Oberman and Chris Matthews. When their ratings go down, so will their credibility (not really ever there…so biased) and their paychecks…maybe even their jobs. Hell, wouldn’t it be really nice if they could REALLY identify with the voting public instead of playing “cheerleader”for Obie and looking down their noses at average Americans, their concerns, their hopes, and their problems? No wonder they liked the “O” so much. Their arrogance is a shared genetic fault.

p.s. MSNBC is not allowed on the air in my house since June 2008 (Hillary’s concession speech). Let’s share the fun. What goes around, comes around. Down with Keith and Chris…two of the 3 Stooges. “Obie” makes three.

You’ve been hanging around gun guys too much.

In polls, a large majority of Americans want more gun control. If you count mandatory registration of handguns as gun control, around 91% of Americans favor more gun control.

bjd, you believed those exit polls? I’ve always believed that question was loaded to advance the spin of the news media that those who refused to vote for him were racist. How was the question worded and why was it asked, if not to plant this idea? Was the question something like, “Did race infulence your vote?” or was it “Did you vote against Obama because he is black?” WV and KY are perfect examples of why he will lose in Nov. The democgrphics may not have favored him in the primary, but if he had made an effort there against Hillary, perhaps he could have won the states in the GE. But, he blew them off and spent his time and money in states like NC and SC, red states he will lose in the GE. The difference in his approach and Hillary’s: He just campaigned to defeat Hillary and she was running her campaign with the GE in mind. Result: He won the nomination and will lose the GE. I wonder if this was his plan or the DNC decided how he would run? I believe, as this article pointed out, this was done his way so the result will be only on his shoulders. As Fineman said, he is arrogant.

Typical MSM bullshit. They helped to railroad Hillary and now are lamenting about it after the fact when it is too late for her.

Maybe it is a sign of “rats abandoning a sinking ship.” Expect more of them to say the same line.

Yeah, so let’s elect him now! Great idea!

oh, give me a break. it ain’t no rodney king here, it’s an election. One person, one vote. you’re trying to stir shit when there’s no evidence of that.

If he loses, who will care who THEY blame?

We all must boycott MSNBC, especially Keith Oberman and Chris Matthews.

I’ve been doing this for around 3 months. And add Shuster and MitchShill to your list.

Oh my, bjd is one angry little Obamaboy.

I am voting against the donkey half – to hell with the honkey half.

Yes, exactly. The more damage the good Senator can inflict on his own, the better Senator McCain will look. It’s not like the GOP have to make anything up–just keep on top of what Senator Obama or an important surrogate is saying that day and have a sharp, focused response to any missteps or gaffes.

It has almost been that simple for the last ten days or so.

Could Obama be getting nervous about the lawsuit by Philip Berg who claims Obama was not born in this country? Just asking…..

And Biden’s remark, “Hillary perhaps would have been a better choice than me,” reminds me of Perot’s VP pick (Scottsdale was it?) saying during the debate, “Why am I here?” The statement marked the downward trend for Perot.

I am pleased to see Obama’s campaign going down.

I think we are all just Americans here, rooting for the ticket that is better (or less harmful) for America.

Obama will still blame evryone but himself. Remember this pride goes before the fall! He will never admit that he just didn’t accept that this must be done with help….ahem! help from the true Democratic base!

Bo’S a rotten apple! Always was.

I think you have to switch roles, right? I mean Axelrod got his shiny empty suit guy elected in MA, and though he’d go for the big time after that. I read somewhere that a lot of Obama’s “brilliant” lines in his speeches were just re-warmed Deval Patric stuff.

Perhaps it’s the Democrats (and their MSM tools) way of unconsciously saying, “We take Sarah Palin more seriously to be the Vice President of the United States. We are sure now she is qualified and prepared.

On great step for Sarah Palin; one large leap for womankind.

Nice.

Took the words right out of my mouth!

And how close is Obama’s jugular to his own hand?

It’s not our fault! It turns out Obama is an arrogant sob, who won’t work and play well with others! How could we have known when we were bowing down in worship that he was an asshole?

Waaaaaahhhhhhhhhh

If Ike hadn’t been a threat, and Obama had proceeded with his SNL appearance, it would probably have been a dreadful performance. Obama’s last outing on SNL was awful…he can’t even play himself convincingly.

And the altimeter needle is working back toward zero pretty quickly.

I hope the Obama Airbus has a good parachute.

(Mental image of the Senator yanking the one parachute out of Axelrod’s hands and jumping out the bay doors. All the people he threw under the (Air)bus watch him fall away…)

Ayers and Dohrn ads need to start to run ASAP. Rezko and the slums Obama funded with taxpayer dollars too.

Wright and Meeks can star in 527 ads….McCain won’t risk a perception of racism, or give Obama a chance to get sympathy with the race card.

From ABCNews
“Palin, 44, whose political career began with the PTA and a city-council seat in Wasilla and who obtained her first passport last year, told Gibson that she was up to the challenge of being Sen. John McCain’s vice president.”

Translation:

“Palin, a dumb redneck from a ridiculous state, thinks she can be vice president. Ha ha ha.”

As part of the Fairness Doctrine I will write the equal time paragraph:

“Obama, 47, whose political career began manipulating elections in Chicagoland with the help of a controversial black liberation theology preacher and crooked real estate barons, and who grew up with his Muslim family in Indonesia, told Gibson he was up to the challenge of being Sen. Joe Biden’s president”

Translation:

“What are the Democrats thinking?”

Ohitler has permanently lost the true Democratic base.

SEEK. HELP.

Did Gibson have a double standard for Palin
You Be The Judge?
In the days leading up to Charles Gibson’s interview with Sarah Palin, many demanded that he ask her tough questions on foreign policy and reform. Certainly that is what journalists should do with all of our elected officials and political candidates, but it seems that Gibson doesn’t always meet this standard

Gibson, Obama Interview:

How does it feel to break a glass ceiling?
How does it feel to “win”?
How does your family feel about your “winning” breaking a glass ceiling?
Who will be your VP?
Should you choose Hillary Clinton as VP?
Will you accept public finance?
What issues is your campaign about?
Will you visit Iraq?
Will you debate McCain at a town hall?
What did you think of your competitor’s [Clinton] speech?

Gibson, Edward’s Interview:
GIBSON: You speak with such equanimity this morning. Didn’t they make you mad last night?
EDWARDS: Oh, I thought they were over the top, completely over the top. And, and actually what bothered me more than anything was in the midst of -I mean, there was, if you, if you got up and went to your refrigerator to get a Diet Coke, you would -you would miss everything Dick Cheney had to say about health care and everything he had to say about jobs. I mean, this is the first, we’ve had 11 straight presidents in this country, Charlie, who have created jobs. This is, until George Bush. You know, we’ve got all these folks who are having trouble with their health care premiums going up, 26, 27 hundred dollars, and what do they have to say about it? Nothing. I mean, don’t people deserve to know from their president and vice president what it is they’ve done and what it is they’re going to do? And instead, all we hear is a lot of rhetoric about, about their opponent. I mean, I just think leaders in this country, the American people deserve leaders who are better than that and do better than that.
GIBSON: Did you get mad, though?
EDWARDS: Oh, yeah. I was, I was, especially about the personal attacks against John Kerry, because they’re false. I know this guy and I know what he’s made of inside and he’s ready to lead this country.

Gibson, Palin Interview:
Do you have enough qualifications for the job you’re seeking? Specifically have you visited foreign countries and met foreign leaders?
Aren’t you conceited to be seeking this high level job?
Questions about foreign policy
-territorial integrity of Georgia
-allowing Georgia and Ukraine to be members of NATO
-NATO treaty
-Iranian nuclear threat
-what to do if Israel attacks Iran
-Al Qaeda motivations
-the Bush Doctrine
-attacking terrorists harbored by Pakistan
Is America fighting a holy war? [misquoted Palin]

Double Standard Mr. Gibson???
Can You Spell Sexist Charlie???

I agree John. I have this sinking feeling that BO has a very good chance of winning if something big isn’t done soon. The media is behind him, corporate America is behind him, the press is behind him, he gets as many passes as George Bush.

I fear just like in 2000, and just like in the democratic primaries, the popular vote will go for one person, but the loser will end up winning.

I wish there were a whitey tape. But if it doesn’t happen soon it was just a wishful thinking rumor.

I agree: man, did they ever look awkward together! I love how Bill (whom I adore) mentioned that he’d start campaigning once he was done with his global initiative work. How much do you want to bet that the global initiative thingy goes into overtime?

I watched the CNN specials on Palin and Biden tonight. I thought they did a pretty fair job on both of them. Biden is a decent guy, and it’s too bad he hooked up with His Highness Prince Barack Obama. Palin is even more appealing of a figure after I watched that show. She truly is an all-American girl who is living out the American dream, with both bumps in the road, and great successes. But she is real, and she has people who have known her her whole life vouching for her.

I’ll believe “we are all just Americans” voting for the better ticket if the republicans are willing to accept that sometimes it will be the democrats who have the better ticket.

It’s the only way to stop the negative politics of extreme partisanship.

QUOTE FROM DKOS: Sarah Palin? Can’t keep her solemn oath of devotion to her husband and had sex with his employee. Sarah Palin? Accidentally got pregnant at age 43 and the tax payers of Alaska have to pay for the care of her disabled child. Sarah Palin? Unable to teach her 16 year old daughter right from wrong and now another teenager is pregnant. Sarah Palin? Can you trust Sarah Palin and her values with America’s future? John McCain? Divorced from his first wife one month and marries a billionaire influence peddler and convicted felon. John McCain, a record of rash and impulsive decisions. That’s not change that’s more of the same.”

LET’S TALK ABOUT FAMILY VALUES. What is the difference between Omama’s mama getting pregnant at the age of 17 and Bristol Palin? Obama’s mama could not have married this man as he wants us to believe, because his father already had 3 or 4 wives in Kenya.

And this true “core base” was the literal “glue” of the party… For without that glue all that remains is self serving special interests. Without the “core base” there is no party.

:>)))))))))

A barrack and a hard place… LOL.

Yes, it seems there is no line of attack on any other candidate that doesn’t land squarely at the feet of the ‘One.

I’m not sure what blacks [REMOVED BY ADMINISTRATOR].

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I think the best way to respond to the idiotic email ad is to have McCain or GW Bush offer to teach Obama and his ad team about “the google”

GW Bush took crap from media types for exclaiming over how cool “the google” was, for anybody who missed that.

Bush can be sorta dim (my GOP dad calls him a confirmed idiot), but it appears that Obama is much worse.

Please, he’s not my Charlie any more!

Yes, I feel really bad for Biden. I honestly believe everybody else credible turned Obama down for veep. Biden is being a good democrat and stepping in to fill a void.

You know the campaign isn’t consulting him on anything….if they had even asked him, that email ad about McCain would never have seen the light of day.

And Biden doesn’t seem like the type to go after a pregnant teenaged girl or a disabled baby.

Tina Fey did a great job of playing Sarah Palin and Amy Pohler played Hillary on SNL, funny.

And please, remember the Robert Kennedy riff about how Hillary Clinton was accused of wanting Obama assassinated. Robert Kennedy, Jr. came out and defended Hillary.

Where was the press then? Where was the whole frigging Democratic Party?

They didn’t see the low blows then. They didn’t see the excess, the sexism, the hate. I don’t care what the Republicans throw at Obama. He and his supporters deserve every blow.

I hope McCain chews him up and spits him out.

Am I bitter? You betcha!

what should bother us all about those polls is what the Precious is doing to down ticket dems

THAT worries me.

I remember the Clarence Thomas hearings. Biden didn’t knock me out back then, and he doesn’t now.

Sure, he has more gravitas than the folks running Obama’s campaign, but this really is not saying much. Remember, Obama’s official stance is still “families off limits”.

I’m glad the CNN coverage was fair, that network has been a no go zone for me for quite some time. I will check it out.

90% vote for Obambi in the primary with two candidates espousing the same principles… that’s racism

“He’s an arrogant S.O.B.,” one of the latter told me today. “He wants to do it his way, and his way alone.”

Christ. Haven’t we already HAD THAT for the past eight fucking years?!

Actually, blacks who are not happy with Obama, and are not conservative intend to vote Green for McKinney – see blackagendareport.com.

Ross Perot picked retired Admiral James Stockdale, not Scottsdale, who was a POW in Hanoi for 7 years…a Cong. Medal Of Honor winner…read his story in Wikipedia for a real Profile in Courage…

SNL was wonderful!!!!!

Perry Logan wrote:

‘”We are the ones we’ve been waiting for”’ sounds awfully narcissistic to me.”

You think?????

Pales somewhat against, “to dedicate ourselves to a cause greater than our own.”

Because, words matter. So said, the Master.

No, Fineman is just afraid he’ll be caught with his pants down and his poor judgment showing.

The more of this ridiculous, venomous shit they spew, the more swing voters they will turn off. I hope they keep doing it.

History is written by the winners

There will be a long and painful evaluation in which MUCH TRUTH about the precious will emerge

I am VERY conservative. In fact, I think President Bush is too liberal! That said, I want to compliment you for your fine statement. I couldn’t agree more.

“…the most valuable lesson to come out of this election season is that many from both parties are willing to unite as “citizens” (not blind party loyalist) and put the best interest of our country first.”

This brought tears to my eyes.

I just watched the SNL piece and Tina Fey has the look and voice down. The skit was halarious. We’re in for some good shows this season.

Encouraging, but I don’t put a whole lot of stock in Zogby polls. The article also says that Obama is within the margin of error in NC. Another poll that came out last week had McCain up by 20. So go figure.

But the overall picture from the swing states is clearly a movement to McCain/Palin.

You’re exactly right. They are saving one or two nuclear warheads for the week before the election, one of which is the “Whitey Tape”.

LOOK AT THE ‘BODY LANGUAGE’ OF BILL IN THAT CLIP!

THIS CANNOT BE A GOOD OMEN FOR ‘THE CHOSEN ONE’.

“Regardless, it is vital that some of the top insider members of the MSM dare to speak out now about Obama’s serious narcissism issues.” There, someone finally says the “N” word that we really need to worry about with this guy–narcissism. He is so wrapped up in his own self-image that he really can’t see what is going on with the big picture, either of his own campaign or the varying needs of the people of this huge country. Witness his self-centered refusal to even consider Clinton as vp, even though it would unite the party and make EVERYONE feel better. Obsession with trivial details that really aren’t that important in the overall grand scheme of things are bound to be his undoing.

LMAO!

Another rude and arrogant Obot winning friends and influencing people in his/her own unique way. With friends like these Obummer doesn’t need enemies.

I don’t believe Obummer will be back in four years after he loses. All the people who pushed his candidacy will have lost credibility and will no longer be in power in the Democratic Party. People like Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Donna Brazile, John Kerry, etc. Also the corporate media will no longer have any reason to sit on all the dirt in Obummer’s background.

Obummer seems to always be tired. How many vacations has he taken since the primaries began? I have never seen a candidate take so many vacations.

I discuss this in my roundup which will be up in a few minutes EDT….
I found a great site explaining some of the body language that I had noticed…

http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com

WE MUST NOT LET THEM FORGET AFTER THE ELECTION!

LOL

In the last election a friend (who is black) told me that when she selected to vote republican in the primaries, she was glared at and mocked by fellow voters. She was uncomfortable, but not intimidated. But clearly, she was looked down on in her neighborhood for her choice.

OMG! who IS that woman…

great observations and a great read!

Attention arg[pgr arioja[operbaer: Get back on your meds please.

Gas Prices.

His policies are better? Which policies are those?
For/against NAFTA, the surge is bad/good, Iran is/is not dangerous, for/against FISA, receiving/rejecting federal campaign financing, against/for drilling, etc.

I think Biden agreed to take one for the team since nobody else seemed to want the job. I am just happy Hillary is not involved.

Yes there is racism. There is sexism, there is theism, there is ageism, there is every kind of ism you can imagine affecting the vote. So, what exactly is your point?

If that’s the big excuse being prepared for when Obama loses, it’s just bull crap. He had a big lead, he had the msm, he had the money.

He just didn’t have the goods.

Clinton as vp would not have made me happy. She is so much better than Obummer. We have already hashed this issue out here on No Quarter. Why should the very qualified woman have to play second fiddle to the oh so unqualified man?

I think it is great he chose Biden. Obummer showed what a hypocrite he is, again. His campaign is supposedly about change and he picks a Washington insider who has been a Senator since 1973?

Time for a Speshil Komment!

“Howard Fineman just called Lord Obama an “Upitty Negro”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(spit flecks flying all over the camera). For that Howard Fineman is no longer allowed on “The Factor”, er, ah, I mean “Countdown”.
Good Night and God Bless.”

bjd, name calling is not nice. Didn’t your mother teach you that? Calm down. It’ll be all right. Barry will lose, but it’s not the end of the world. There, there.

There you have it, folks. The New Politics of Hope and Change.

Obama is the biggest fraud to ever seek the office of the presidency. Now that Palin is out there showing the voters what a real person–even better, a real woman–looks like, Barry is coming across as phonier than ever. Desperate, too.

Was Fineman still appearing on Doberman’s show? If he was, he won’t be anymore, not after that article. How dare he suggest that Obama is arrogant. Keith will not be pleased.

No. He’ll never run again. His ego won’t take the kind of resounding defeat and humiliation that he is going to receive. And he doesn’t have the GUTS and FORTITUDE to go back to the Senate and be a leader.

And you and your fake_dem_party are f*cking up the world with SEXISM! stinky bastardOboy!

Cubs in 08,

Thank you for your kind words. You know, I’m old enough to remember when dems and repubs respected each other enough to work together and try to solve our nation’s problems!

I think that’s one of the primary reasons I will vote McCain/Palin is because these two public servants have reached across out to the other party.

That’s change I can believe in!

That’s your new Democratic party speaking – vicious hate-mongers, trained to whip up righteous indignation while blindly ignoring hypocrisy and betrayal by their own candidate. Lovely.

Berserk +
I watched the Sinclair youtube National press club clips (all 5 about an hour plus or minus) and I’m not a good judge of character really, but it seemed authentic to me. I noted Larry had to correct the press several times, he caught them lying and playing games.
I also caught how Biden’s son is AG of Delaware, and the strangely “missing indictment paperless”(even in court by judge’s own words) ride out of the Press Club’s adjoining room, off to the several gulags, second in Delaware, stuck in my craw as well. Not to mention the Edward’s problem as well as others recent of note on both sides that make any of these quite possible.
It’s rather different I’ll add when one has a publicly testifying witness or the ship is already sunk, and when one does not, a big difference since in Palin’s case, it’s a big zero so far it appears, unlike the very strangely silent Obama case, with the creepy arrest, and the silence on the Rev Wright church members deaths – reportedly alternate lifestyle, execution style, phonecalls connected to Sinclair.
I suppose it might be a rumor, but at this point I certainly wouldn’t guess it to be. Certain commenters have told me Michelle fits the militant profile and Obama the bi-alternate, it would not surpise me considering it seems to be a requirement of sorts anymore, drugs on both sides, and sexual escapades on the left – a celebration of sorts with the latter, as we see in so many disgusting attack reports, the projection coming alive, the belief exposed, the acceptance of the “problem”.
I certainly would like to know the truth in this matter.
As far as recent Presidents, I believe Nixon, Carter, Reagan, the current Bush – didn’t philander. I’m not sure about Ford or 41. For some reason I suspect 41.
I find it disturbing there was a national press club media room conference with a packed room(+Sinclair), and the MSM is as far as I have seen, absolutely 100% silent. Much like the Edwards deal, but with these Palin accusations, it’s all the rave, and gets mentioned, even if discounted as well.
Kinda tips me off as to what is true and isn’t, so far as a decent guess goes. Hard to separate that from just pure bias, though as well.
Why would Obama’s campaign links pay $750,000 for a conversion of that WH pawn/porn site to as well – “give Sinclair a lie detector test” – LOL
Yeah, it’s something, really something ! Wow.

Howard Finemann at the link ” No, Barack Obama was not making fun of Sarah Palin when he talked about some Republican putting “lipstick on a pig.”
He was trying to be colloquial, ..”
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OK, sorry, right there the guy is a big fat LIAR in my book. I can’t stand that bleepity bleep. His next line is McCain’s camp knew that even as they went ballistic.
This is WHY I CAN’T STAND THEM. I really could CARE LESS what bambis stated “intention” was, or wether his 26 yr. old + 30yr old + 27 or whatever yr. old prigg speech writers cooked up the line & inserted “colloquial!” in big red letters next to it or not.
Just stuff it in your quacking goosehole Finemann and NEVER disgrace my presence, good luck to you on that, it won’t be pretty.
Ok, I’ll try to read the rest of his puking lies, mind reader that he is, I’ll grab my Svengali volumes for proper appraisal afterwards.
What a _ _ _ _.
What filth we have spewing at us. It is absolutely amazing, what a crock of puke.
“He was trying to be colloquial”. LOL
I can’t believe these people don’t get smashed in the chops on a regular basis.
It was Buzz Aldrin( USA astronaut) that punched that no moon landing truther right in the kisser in a second flat when he wouldn’t get out of his face.
Welcome to the America I believe in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQKxAqpjroo
Ok, now I’ll try to read all of; howie the kook liar piece.

This is a very telling comment ( if it’s true -maybe yaghead is spewing in his beg for unity – it makes sense he is). Just think how deep this rabbit hole goes :
” It’s just my guess, but I think Mr. Clinton would have been open to the wooing – if for no other reason than to recapture his reputation as an avatar of the civil rights cause. Obama also neglected to court Clinton fundraisers and supporters in places like Los Angeles. All they want from Obama is a phone call. They would swoon. ”
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Yes, that is quite amazing. It appears unity is bleepity bleep JOKE.

My daughter the Anthropologist said something to me the other day.

“looking at the behavior of the followers of a particular leader tell you more about the leader than the leader’s behavior can..”

In addition she added, “massive movement lead by messianic figures never in history have turned out well.”

She then went on to site the Brown Shirts of Nazi Germany as an example. Had th world leaders looked at their activities up to 1933 they would have had a much better picture of what Hitler was all about.

Look at the vitriolic words and violence committed by Obama supporters. Tell me that doesn’t portend something horrible.
We have already heard rumors of riots if Obama is denied.

Time for a house cleaning.

Agree. Obama supporter’s behavior is terrible for the most part. They have hurt their candidate more than they have helped him. Should Obama lose, I’m concerned that their negative behavior will get worse; violently.

I guess Howie, or poopie (lowercase p) as I now call him, forgot Obama was fighting Hillary and Obama was screeding about a no attack campaign, and didn’t get the nomination two months ago, but at the recent convention.
” Failing to attack McCain early
Obama was wary of attacking a man who had suffered so much during the Vietnam War – an understandable emotion. But that wariness, combined with Obama’s natural inclination to be seen as the nice guy (one who lets others do the knifing) lead to an unfortunate result.”
Wait a minute poopie, I thought this was a new kind of politics, a new way to engage, a new hope…
Now you’re whining Obama’s ok for being a lowlife attackbot is late ? Is that a flipflop, because you say “he started doing it too late”…indicating it’s on te forward currently.
So the newer kinder campaign is out the O window (as if it ever wasn’t -ask the PUMA’s), and the gantsa has his hired blades slicing away with his approval ? OK.
I guess that whole new hope new way thing was another GIGANTIC LIE.
Maybe poopie can get his notice he feels is due him now, and be a quietly snapped up inside advice player.
Next time between the foul lies, just post a begging resume poopie, redacted, of course.

Speaking of inside advice, Matthews was also giving Obama “attack” advice. It’s so much fun to watch pro-Obama pundits attempt to steer their candidate toward a win.

SlowBurn, affirmative action means providing opportunity to someone (of an unrepresented group) WHO IS QUALIFIED. Obama is an unqualified candidate, therefore does not meet the minimum requirement for being POTUS.

Dear True Believer

Both Gallup and Rasmussen are consistent in having McCain favored by two percent over Obama with a +/-2% error. The error is known to within 95%. (In the inevitable cherry-picking of polls that will follow will some bright spark please, please, please quote Zogby? I particularly cherish his picking of Kerry to win in 04. I would find it touching)

This means that Obama could be favored by McCain by two percent or that Obama could be down by six. We (i.e., those not math-challenged) refer to this as a statistical tie or dead heat.

I don’t lose any sleep over these ambiguities when I know that all I have to do is wait until the rest of us independents make our shift in the latter part of October.

Meanwhile, those who write for No Quarter, Kos, Huffington, et. al., who are simply driven to express their angst, please feel free to carry on with my compliments. The vacuum begs to be shouted into.

Dear Mickey Hill,

Any relation to Anita Hill? … Blueberry Hill? (gods bless you Fats)

It will prove useful to you to study the past advocacy on this blog. You will notice that those most feverishly supported here have lost.

Always less than a platform for rational discussion, it has lapsed into the Theater of the Absurd with a frequency I view with increasing fascination.

For the want of a microgram of acetylcholine the thought was lost,…….

There are still events to relish while waiting for our minds leak away and listening to our arteries harden. I await the FUCK BILL CLINTON article here when Big Dog goes on line for the Prince of Platitudes.

The place will have then come full circle.

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