Afghanistan Hysteria

I’d put the ardent “Wahhabis” at 20%.  The real challenge is Pashtun power, which takes us back to Pakistan’s refusal to really help deal with the threat in Afghanistan.

Well, Larry, maybe we’ll have some journalists pop up and report the news foreign and domestic again.  THAT would be hope and change.

Kieran, for this same reason, I hesitated several times before clicking to read the rest of the story.  And I only read the story because I have stopped reading mainstream news; and I figured, given that Larry reported this story which involved news of Afghanistan, it was probably substantively (mostly) true.

LJ was making a point. Grow up, Kieran.

Over all, the documents do not contradict official accounts of the war. But in some cases the documents show that the American military made misleading public statements — attributing the downing of a helicopter to conventional weapons instead of heat-seeking missiles or giving Afghans credit for missions carried out by Special Operations commandos.
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What unmitigated rubbish. The NYT takes a single issue, out of context, and then formulates the conclusion. I deny the major and minor premise put forth by those bozos. The conclusion does not follow and the argument is moot.

Isn’t released intel alot like military technology?  What we see is almost always already inconsequential or obsolete.

Because it makes me happy and makes the point I want.  But sexist?  What are you talking about?  What world do you live in where 11 year old boys aren’t starting to get curious about sex?  More importantly, their immature, hyper reaction to such things is, in my experience, the best metaphor to describe the psuedo-frenzy of the idiot media.  Girls don’t react like that.  They tend to be more mature and do not act like Forrest Gump.

Well, they (whoever ‘they’ are) call the NYT the Grey Lady – if this refers to an older lady – then it is time to give her a long rest – as I am also a ‘Grey’ (kinda) lady (sometimes), I vote for the rest – mostly becuz I see nothing of value coming from them or any of the other newspapers, magazines, or news shows in this country – poor
Founding Fathers – they thought a free press was essential – too bad the press didn’t………………….

keiran, I rather liked Larry’s true grit description of what’s going on. I am a woman and don’t take what he said personally. Gee, don’t ever work in medicine,you wouldn’t survive one hour in the operating room or the emergency room.

Larry,

I am not sure what the point of your post is? What exactly are you complaining about?

Are you complaining that the NYT and Guardian are writing about 90,000 documents that have been released that give us a better portrait of what is actually been going on over there? What is wrong with that exactly?

Nice Try, think of Larry’s point as out of your league.  If you don’t like Larry’s point or for some lame reason can’t understand or choose not to understand said point, then it’s not for you to figure out.

It could be seen as an opinion.  That’s something you know about since you sprinkle them freely, unwanted, all over the place.

I’m curious, do people believe we are setting the stage for a “failure” in Afganistan and a withdrawl of troops? Is Obama trying to live up to his deadlines and his campaign promises of ending the war? Logically, that’s sure what it looks like, but I have a nagging feeling going in the other direction.  I can picture him feeling like a failure on domestic issues, getting no respect at home, so deciding he wants to be a war president. Not an effective war president mind you, but someone scary because they are like an 11 yr old boy trying to prove their manhood.

I read his books, I listened to his speeches about being anti-war and from the very begininning I thought he was lying. He’s not really the peace loving liberal people pretended he was, he’s that Chicago thug who said, “they bring a knife, we bring a gun.” His MO when he’s “periodically feeling down” is to to strike out.

That’s why I believe Hillary took the SOS job. I belive he could act rashly (we have lots of evidence about his rashness) and create a foreign policy disaster.

Who knows, maybe this is all just a set up to allow the current administration an opportunity to talk tough.  Such instances are usually good for a couple of percentage points boost in the POTUS’ poll numbers. 

Slightly off topic but I’m just curious — when does the male species quit having a hyper reaction to such things as naked titties?  Judging by the reaction of the nerds at Comic-Con to Blake Lively’s titties peeking out of her little white number the grown up boys are as hyper reactive as a prepubescent boy.   Me thinks males have a life long obsession with boobies. 

Now on topic.  Is WikiLeaks part of the left that is distraught that BO hasn’t pulled our troops out of Iraq, Afganistan and closed Gitmo by now?  What is their agenda?  Are they using this information selectively to push their agenda?  I try not to have knee jerk reactions to breaking news.  What can we learn from this information to increase our effectiveness and achieve the desired outcome?

I’m probably just being paranoid, but could this release of the military documents be just Obama’s way of preparing the public so that they would support a withdrawal from Afghanistan?

What Larry said.

As well, the Sunday NYT has a front page above-the-fold article about the Supreme Court in which it’s conjectured that “abortion rights are likely to be curtailed”.   I have a feeling this is only one of many [future] attempts to GOTV.  The base is demoralized and needs prodding, after all.  Anything to help.

Buzz, Jwrjr,

Not sure what the point of your post to me are? It is not clear to me what exactly Larry seems to be complaining about? What “hysteria”, as he calls it?

Seems perfectly reasonable to report on these 90,000 classified documents that have been released. They give us a much more accurate portrait of what has been going on in Afghanistan. It would be a bit of a joke not to report on these documents. Again I do not see where the “hysteria” is? Certainly no hysteria like the relatively meaningless story of Shirley Sherrod. The only one making a big deal out of this seems to be Larry.

I think 75% of what is written in our newspapers today is pure bullshit. This is why people don’t read the papers anymore. Not to worry, we will probably be bailing their sorry asses out as well.

I got online early this morning.  I woke up to that NYT article featured as the LEAD story in the Denver Post.  The first thing I did was to read the “by line.”  It seems it was written by a committee, since six people are listed.  Some of them are female.  Now, LJ, I understand your point about young prepubescent boys, but I know a little about prepubescent girls also.  Do you know the term “drama queen”?

Any way, I stopped reading early because to put this on the front page as NEWS seems misleading.  It’s more “look, we got some documents from the military; we have some people here who can read them, but there are so many, so we’ll have to form a reading team; then they can get together and tell us what they read; it doesn’t matter that this is all information that happened years ago; we’re going to call it news.”

Afghanistan should have been reported better since the beginning, but to think that non-military writers can ever really know how to assess a military campaign is ludicrous.  I just do question the reason the NYT has put so many people and so much into this now that it’s old news.

I am happy to say, from reading some of the comments on the thread, that I am not alone in my assessment of this supposedly front page worthy news story.

Miss Clinton must realize that she is dealing with formidable opponents and not those hide-and-seek Talibans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSZmqiw0vvY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5j9_vM79-k&feature=fvw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1UPG7XwhWw&feature=related

An exerpt from an ABC article about the leaks (emphasis mine):

New York Times reporter Eric Schmitt, who had early access to the reports via Wikileaks, insists the paper removed any sensitive information that could have jeopardized operations.
“We worked very closely in this case with the White House and in fact the white house praised us for our efforts and due diligence going through this” he told me on “GMA.”

Full article:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2010/07/whistleblower-blasts-wikileaks-irresponsible-to-publish-intelligence-says-it-enlisted-soldier-as-per.html

That’s “not to be used as an example”.

Larry,

There is some important information contained in these documents that is worth knowing about and discussing and some hysteria may be meritted.

The Guardian says the files revealed a secret black-ops unit which hunts down Taliban leaders for “kill or capture” without trial; how the US covered up evidence of surface-to-air missiles acquired by the Taliban (great CIA blowback from a different era); and how the Taliban have caused growing carnage with their roadside bombing campaign, killing more than 2,000 civilians to date (has the military been covering up civilian deaths and that is a great way to win hearts and minds); how Pakistan is more supportive of the Taliban than one might think; etc. etc. etc.

Some of this is new and relevant for public debate. We owe it to our soliders to continue to debate this war and anything that gets the public more involved is a good think. Public apathy about Afghanistan has been part of the problem and the reason this is now the longest war in U.S. history. Can you imagine that, that this is the longest war in U.S. history?

If this info can help us answer the questions; (1) did the government lead the country to believe the war was going better than it really was – i.e., did the government lie to the public? and (2) is the war unwinnable in the sense that our goals are unachievable? then that is a good thing.

It was a smart strategy to release this in the U.S., U.K. and Germany. It will be interesting to see if there is any different a public reaction and how this imformation is portrayed in the different countries.

However, I do see in today’s paper that Target has a sale on Huggies.

The problem, not so Nice Try, is that what you called the “longest war” has not been a “war,” as that designation was co-opted by the Iraq War.  Afghanistan was left in the hinterlands of the American and foreign newspapers for a long time.  We had soldiers there, but they were neglected. 

Then, to suit Obambi’s rhetoric about how Afghanistan was the place we should have been instead of Iraq, he decided to say that HE would fight the war we should have been fighting.  At this point, discussion about where we should have been or where we should be is a bit past due.  And I certainly don’t want the elitist NYT’s reporters “framing” the discussion that you want to have now.

What I want is a POTUS (and thus, CIC) who will not bend in the wind (a good metaphor for what was coming out of the newspapers today) and who will for once do what he says he will do. 

But that might take him away from vacationing and golfing.  I do believe that as well as suffering from narcissism, our Dear Leader also suffers from ADHD.

And my real opinion is that our soldiers there would prefer that we stop discussing and allow their leaders to lead with our unquestioning support. 

I do not at all believe that you, Nice Try, and all your bot friends care about our soldiers at all.  I believe you think you’re smarter than they are.  I believe that you feel they are wrong for even enlisting.  I can’t imagine the soldiers wanting you to be “discussing” what to do about them.

I just do question the reason the NYT has put so many people and so much into this now that it’s old news. - Obviously Afghanistan is Barky’s “pullout target” now. He needs validation and a press posse to pick a vacation spot these days, let alone decide to end a war. But also, he needs somewhere else more pressing to focus on to divert the negative attention from the pullout. Maybe Hillary can come to the rescue for “manger boy” once again.

Docelder, with the economy in the tank for the long term, the 2011 drawdown is all this administration can control before the 2012 elections.

Diana,

Not sure what you mean “bend in the wind”?

So you think that Obama should not be able to take a vacation? Given the intensity of the last 18 months does he not deserve to recharge?

“our soldiers there would prefer that we stop discussing and allow their leaders to lead with our unquestioning support.”

This is an interesting and loaded statement. Almost every single story I have seen from the soliders in Afghanistan says that they are discouraged by the lack of attention this war is getting back on the homefront, so I am not sure they are against discussing. Second, I would think any discussion that questions why exactly they are there would be supported by the soldier, as I am sure many of them do not know the answer to that question themselves and would like to leave. I am sure everyone has unquestioning support of the soliders, but I am not sure it is wise to have unquestioning support of the mission or the war. This is a democracy and wars should always be questioned, especially given the history of this country. In terms of letting their leaders lead, Obama has given considerably more resources and more or less signed off on the strategy of the military, which is a far cry from the first 6 years of this war, when the military was really forgetten and there was no real strategy in place during Bush’s time. I would say the situation and focus has greatly improved in Afghanistan under Obama, although it remain unclear about the success.

Jay Rosen goes through the release of these documents and has some interesting comments about the documents, the media and Wikileaks in general. Pretty powerful stuff. 
Take a look here:

http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthink/2010/07/26/wikileaks_afghan.html

Included in the panel on Morning Joe discussing this topic was none other than Ezra Klein the numero uno JournOlist! I can’t believe they have him on their panel – what a joke..

Anyone else wondering why all the leaks were prior to Obama’s administration taking over?

There is no coincidence with this WH.. wonder what the ‘real’ story is here?

Oh, and did anyone see Barry will be on The View on Thursday? Trying to help give his poll numbers a boost. No doubt he’ll talk about his date nights, the girls, vacations, his golf game and of coure the piece de resistance Bo. Maybe Bo will make a cameo appearance?

:’(

What access was granted?
Seems like there are more intel turds floating in the bowl…ready to be flushed into the MSM for political consumption.

So you think that Obama should not be able to take a vacation? Given the intensity of the last 18 months does he not deserve to recharge?

NO. Hell no!

Most of us lead lives of quiet desperation.  “Recharging” is a luxury that most can’t afford, particularly when times are tough.   Needing a continual “recharge” is for wimps and slackers–not presidents . . .

And Messiahs never need a “recharge.”  They’re hooked directly into the mainline cosmic source of energy, and they’ve got a universe to save . . .

Do you know anything about how this all works? It’s not that simple and no, it’s not some liberal journo victory.

You’re really naive to think that any of this is earth shattering.  When people first started seeing the Stealth fighter in the sky, it was already obsolete.  When the journos saw the intelligence, it was already obsolete.

Big Media love to do self-important stories about Big Media.  It happens all the time.  They love to talk about themselves.  And that’s the main course this narrative is taking.  Since there are no bombshells (pun intended) in the leaks, a lot of the coverage is concerned with background info about wikileaks; informing the public about wikileaks’ rationale for coordinating with the NYT, Der Spiegel and The Guardian (what a trio); the process employed by media figures vis a vis wikileaks, etc., etc.

And it’s absolutely laughable that the White House is feigning indignation and crying foul at this point, in light of the NYT admission it consulted with the administration prior to publication.

…”generals run wars while know-it-alls run their mouths!”

Sassy, were you thinking of our latest pest, billed as ‘Nice Try’, when you wrote that?

He ain’t exactly the energizer bunny, is he!?!?

Any connection between the leak of the documents and the WH should be taken very seriously.

I suspect these wikileak documents, the Sherrod fiasco, Shieffer blaming “new media”, and other current happenings to lead to WH censorship of the Internet.  Get ready…
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Such are the Ori….

Oh, more popcorn please and a Dr. Pepper!

Time for a court marshal….  
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Is that the usher who seats people in court?

Someone call “Chester”?  I’m coming, Marshal Dillon!

LMAO. Now all we need is DocElder, er, Adams.

But, being the certified Prince of Peace, I’m going to make it all better . . .
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Indeed, oowawa. That yellow belly isn’t fit to mow my lawn or take out my trash. Screw him and the morons who put him there. He isn’t fit to hold the office. Sorry if I seem bitter but That One hasn’t the spine of slime mold and his bots collectively can’t provide him one.

This is OT but it’s burning up the internet now. So, Michelle and Sasha are taking yet another VACATION to Spain with their personal family and friends. It’s off limits to the press but guess who’s paying for the 30 rooms in the 5 star hotel? You got it! Bend over and assume the position!

Since she is having an ‘official’ visit with the King and Queen of Spain guess it racks up to the taxpayer to fund the trip.

Jay Rosen is a journolist.  He blogs for the Huffington Post, Salon, and Wired in otherwords he is a progressive hack. 

above post for nice fail……what an idiot, I’m still laughing my ass off about his ignorance……

Teak,

Not to get too off topic here, but you commentors brought it up.

Obama has taken a grand total of 36 days of vacation during his first year and a half. Bush had 96 days over the same period.  A period during the 9-11 attack and war in Afghanistan and preparations for war with Iraq.

The President of the United States should and deserves vacation.

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/01/president-obamas-vacation-days/

Bush took a total of 977 vacation days during his entire presidency or the equivalent of almost 3 years out of his 8 years in office. That is incredible and is the most by a long shot of any President ever. Reagan took 349 days during his eight years.

Yes, the Sangria and Jamon is calling her name. Pathetic! Why can’t they vacation in the US so at least the money spent will help our economy?

Buzz,

Why not stay on topic? Why all the personal insults about something you don’t know anything about?

Discussion boards are for opinions and debate. If you do not like it then why do you read this or why don’t you go somewhere else where there is no discussion boards.

It sounds like you are very heavily into groupthink. Not the kind of country I want to live in where people cannot have alternative views.

And by the way this website is not your website and I have as much of a right to be here as you do, particularly given that LJ opens this site for the world to read and discuss, although NQ likes to censor different views from time to time, which is weak. If you cannot stand up to your arguments then why present your arguments in such a public forum.

Is that Journolists?

Buzz, 
 
Why not stay on topic? Why all the personal insults about something you don’t know anything about? 
 
Discussion boards are for opinions and debate. If you do not like it then why do you read this or why don’t you go somewhere else where there is no discussion boards. 
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Nice Try:

It is you who have no business here. Everything you post is regurgutated hogwash from some site that worships That One. I don’t care a whit if you want to worship him but do so on you own time and on your own website, Your adoration of him is, frankly, appalling. get a hotel room, dink.

Moreover, Buzz is a longtime regular and has her own opinions which the rest of us value as we aren’t as rigid as you obamabots. We have real discussions and sometimes disagreements.

But we’re honest.

You’re not.

You can slice that bovine excrement of yours until it is paper thin but it is still bullshit and still stinks.

Go away, drip.

Where exactly am I being dishonest? Please give me an example!

My views are every bit as worthwhile as yours. You just cannot deal with a different take on something.

doesn’t really ever try, here is the POINT. you run away from reality in other places and put tuck your head up your arse refusing to see the damage the obama administration is hoisting on america. then you want to go all judgemental for reporters who aren’t really doing their job?????????????????????????

what you are is boring, predicitable, uninformed, rather stupid and silly for assuming that we take anything you writer seriously.

thanks for playing but you don’t get the doll.  try again another day, we’ll take your money as usual.

Armymom,

Where is the ignorance? Please explain. Easy to give one liners and personal insults, but very few of you actual make a conherent argument to support your views and attacks.

One wonders what one must do to become part of Michelle’s entourage so that one can accompany her on a taxpayer-funded globetrot.  I suspect that Barack and Michelle might have ventured to the Gulf for a quasi-vacation of sorts had one of the states affected sported a Democrat for governor.  With the “enemy:” Perry, Jindal, Barbour, Riley and Crist holding the Gulf, it’s obvious why neither Obama has spent very much time there.
Of course, another reason might be that their fellow Democrat pols are having “scheduling problems” whenver the Obamas get anywhere near the point of being within the same field of view of a single camera.
Even two Harvard Law grads can take that hint.

My views are every bit as worthwhile as yours. You just cannot deal with a different take on something.
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IF they were yours, you might have a point other than that which resides between your sunken shoulder blades.

My point, tiny, is that you have no POV other than that spoon fed you by your masters. You are singularly incapable of argument because the data that form your opinions have been given you through PowerPoint Presentations. Getting down to brass tacks: you are a bot, a paid troll, an internet skid-row bum. Go bother them, Goob.

Jay Rosen is also a very smart guy. Try reading his stuff once and while to open your mind. Go to the link and read it, then tell me what you think.
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I’ve read the shit and it looks like your shit, Not-So-Nice Try.

Do go on, though, tidal bore.

God you’re killing me with your idea of “smart”.    I haven’t laughed this much in quite a while. Come on , keep telling more of those jokes you been telling us. Tell us how smart Obama is, we need to hear it again…….hahahahahahaha

Ferd you are a class act. Your juvenile posts say quite about a bit about your own maturity level. I would not expect nothing less from you. Have a nice day.
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NiceTry:

Get your silly adolescent ass an education. While you’re learning, shut up so that information can be transported across that monumental barrier that you call a skull. While you’re trying to learn, stay away from here as both the individual and collective IQs here will only make you depressed as you will never make up the gap. You are but a diversion and nothing more.

That’s OK. Huffington Post is right up your alley. All blow and no go. After you’ve perhaps learned something (>10 years), you will then know what it means to be told to perch and rotate.

Armymom, 
 
Where is the ignorance? Please explain.
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Nice Try speaks = ignorance.

Any more questions?

Now we have Miss Clinton flaunting US naval powers in the Korean seas. 
 
Sigh! Miss Clinton should exercise restraints and use diplomacy to resolve the rancor instead of the intimidating joined naval exercise. 

No need to be snarky about Hillary on a post that doesn’t have anything to do with her.

Another class act reply from Ferd. You must have used a lot of brain cells to come up with that one. Enjoy!
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Is that all you have, Inadequate Try? Wow. At least jackie has a few brain cells too work with when she come here to get her daily quota of abuse. You’re a neophyte. For your own good, do try another website that has a collective single-digit IQ like yours.

Here’s the ticket…

Isn’t King O going too? I thought they said they were going to the big golf resort town near Marbella.

Here is another!! Love when old women know best
This one is for “Nice try”

My good friends……Nice Try is merely trying aggravate and wear good folks down here. Like I told him on the “Dumbo and the Polls” thread, I explained as simply as I could the current political terra firma we all find ourselves on. I don’t choose to keep batting political fact and realities over the net with an imbecile. I told him that we could certainly pick up the discussion after the November mid-terms where we can banter  together about the reasons for the ass whoopin my ex party will be receiving.

He continues entering the conversation politely with the “whad I say?” or “whad I do?” persona requesting specifics when we, who have participated and lived through many an election and more importantly the resulting consequences know that Obama’s political situation is so bad, where does one begin? Throw a dart? He or she is young thinking they have all the answers as I did when I was young. Looking back my mind was a mere lump of fat three feet above my ass just like Nice Try. If he can’t see how bad this administration is which he obviously can’t at this point in his life, trying to engage him is like trying to persuade a used brick to change its color. It’s futile. It’s just an exercise in aggravation. We see clearly what’s going on as we’ve seen it before, many times.

I also think we can all concur that somewhere an organ grinder is missing his monkey. 
 
Peace………Seymour

4) take Annenburg and stick it where the sun don’t shine. Factcheck my ass.
Do your own homework genius.

Seymour – I appreciate your wise words. On the other hand, I find Ferd’s beatdowns of trolls amusing. He has a way with words, does Ferd.

I am a firm believer in ignoring trolls. However, I can understand the counter-argument that trolls and their nonsense should be countered.

Some trolls are just idiots who derail threads. Other trolls are of the “astroturf” variety. They are repeating the messages given to them by the Obama Brain Trust. I find the astroturf trolls more threatening than the idiots because they want to drown out all rational discourse. Revision – they want to drown out all rational thinking.

We have some trolls who are monkeys and some trolls who are parrots. The monkeys scream and throw feces. I igore them. The parrots, on the other hand, repeat the same propaganda over and over again. The parrots are annoying.

An organ grinder is missing his monkey, and a pirate is missing his parrot.

But heck, I’ll admit it. I love Ferd. If he wants to conduct a troll capture and release program, I’m all for it.

very heavily into groupthink….

(hey Donna stop the ?)

Ferd… Try this one on for size….

Fuck You! Now did I spell that one right?

4) take Annenburg and stick it where the sun don’t shine. Factcheck my ass. 
Do your own homework genius.
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Teak:

Less-Than-Adequate Try is only programmed to regurgitate data uploaded into it and not actually engage in conversation. It’s a machine and poorly designed one, at that.

Hmm. That would be the feces throwing monkey, I’ll bet.

Are you familiar with Sondheim’s Assassins? Jackie reminds me of the Squeaky Fromme character.

(Listen to the song “Unworthy of Your Love”

I am nothing,
You are wind and devil and God,
Charlie,
Take my blood and my body
For your love.
Let me feel fire,
Let me drink poison,
Tell me to tear my heart in two,
If that’s what you want me to do…

I am unworthy of you love,
Charlie darlin’,
I have done nothing for your love.
Let me be worthy of your love,
Set me free-”)

But Jackie singing about Obama, not Charlie Manson.

‘What do you do for a living, tiny, besides getting money for bothering adults here?”

 Yes Ferd your a legend in your own mind. Compared to you a cockroach is a higher form of life.

Then there are the monkey-parrot hybrids. I hate these the most. They not only mindlessly repeat nonsense that has already been thoroughly debunked (like spitting and the “N” word on the Capital steps), but when you patiently point out for the umpteenth time that they are factually challenged, then they start screeching and tossing their shit balls. There are only two ways to handle this type of wretched beast, you can either ignore them and fend off their shit shower with a sturdy umbrella of stoicism, or you can drop them from their perch with a rhetorical blow-dart coated with curare logic. It’s best to aim at their ass, it’s the largest part of their physique, and never attempt a head shot, not only is the target incredibly small, but it’s usually so dense that the darts just bounce off. 

So you are saying the soldiers are questioning their orders and commanders in the field??? They volunteered to go. When they, the soldiers, should return home is not up to them. Bless everyone of them in harms way, but that’s the JOB. 

It is up to the asshole squatting at 1600, who made a waffle sandwich look like a steel beam when comes to Afghanistan. Are you THAT naive to think politics have nothing to do with BO and ANY decision he makes?

‘What do you do for a living, tiny, besides getting money for bothering adults here?” 
 
 Yes Ferd your a legend in your own mind. Compared to you a cockroach is a higher form of life.
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Wow. You used the wrong word, dink. It is you’re, a contraction for you are rather than the possessive your. Stop while you’re ahead tiny.

“Please explain” (Input Input) Why state the obvious?

Nice Try, why not take a hint?

Thank-you Ferd. I was gone for awhile.  Bammy’s minion doesn’t seem to be able to read social clues, such as, get lost.

 pretty earth shattering…. Hey bozo, this ain’t the planet Alderon.

mmmmm.. ((fairy dust fairy dust Fairy dust) strum of the harp) fade into;

93,000 documents and all maked “secret” (oooooohhhh ahhhh)

So there being nothing “new”, why is your manchild POTUS saying they have negitive impact on national security?! yet at the same time the WH is “working” with the NYT in disclosing / LEAKING  of classified documents?
 I read the Karzia is “shocked. I am not.

Thank-you Ferd. I was gone for awhile.  Bammy’s minion doesn’t seem to be able to read social clues, such as, get lost.
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You are more than welcome, Buzz. You’ve come to my defense on many ocassions. My pleasure to be able to return them.

I did “go to the link”. , I did read it. What I thought? He is confused.

I plead guilty to the “need a link” retired. As a newbie I thought it a good idea to get a topology of citations…

What I found was all roads lead back to ……..Kenya.

How is the Cutlery Show going for you?

Vacation replanning 101
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100726/en_afp/usspainpoliticstourism_20100726182118

Sorry, I had the like thingy marked on the wrong post.  My sentiments are with Ferd.

It is up to the asshole squatting at 1600, who made a waffle sandwich look like a steel beam when comes to Afghanistan. Are you THAT naive to think politics have nothing to do with BO and ANY decision he makes?
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Thank you, Teak. A great quesstion for an ignorant bot.

Sometimes… I don’t think this guy is really a captain. Maybe it’s captain “crunch”.

Same old, same old….
http://www.johnwsmart.com/

Captian Jackass, You better pull that Sparrow out of your ass before it dies from the “birdseed” your feeding it. She is DEAD. NEXT. 
 
But since you bring her up, she had more guts than you have brains, more brains than you have heart, and more heart than you have common sense, and more common sense than you were born with. (See? your mother was never mentioned, ’cause it’s not her fault you were born) 
 
I asked in earnest and without snark and even miss-spelled ‘Catian’ for a joke. Apparently you are slow on the up take(and you work with hazardous materials?)

Why does everyone keep saying we’ve been fighting there for 9 years…Bush did the very minimal for 8 freaking years….now we are really trying to win…I consider it 18 months

ooooww! Comparitive biology.

lol reread what I wrote.  I wasn’t talking about Larry.  I was talking about some people’s need to be nasty to another commenter’s respectful expression of her own opinion. 

Thank you Abigail, very much….AND great heartfelt response Ferd. Life is hard even when it seems to be easy as I grow older. Sometimes you gotta say WTH, I’m not putting up with this one more second. I get this way oh…..I’d say 20 times a day, maybe more to differing degrees? My folks used to tell me that one develops more patience as they grow older. Yep, right on track until the year 2008.
 
Warmly……..Seymour 
 

Larry:
How fucking stupid are journalists? Honest to God, this is ridiculous. They want the military to tell the enemy exactly what is going on?

They are the same components in a system involving taxpayers’ money and lives. Are you from another planet?