Comments on: Play the Salary Game! http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/4841/play-the-salary-game/ Sun, 27 May 2012 09:27:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: bemused http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/4841/play-the-salary-game/#comment-752236 bemused Fri, 19 Sep 2008 22:07:45 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/19/play-the-salary-game/#comment-752236 Sometimes these acts to provide "fair play" are too full of philosophical problems. What is fair? What is equal? There can be too many variables to consider: we have men vs. women, but we also have level of training and job content to compare. For instance, "Staff Assistant" is a popular title, but are all these staff assistants equal in workload and responsibility? Who gets to snoop in the workplace to make sure things are equal? What's to prevent someone gaming the system by giving some favored person a nicer title so their higher salary is justified? It's a terrible can of worms. Sometimes these acts to provide “fair play” are too full of philosophical problems. What is fair? What is equal? There can be too many variables to consider: we have men vs. women, but we also have level of training and job content to compare. For instance, “Staff Assistant” is a popular title, but are all these staff assistants equal in workload and responsibility? Who gets to snoop in the workplace to make sure things are equal? What’s to prevent someone gaming the system by giving some favored person a nicer title so their higher salary is justified? It’s a terrible can of worms.

]]> By: NoBamaNoWay http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/4841/play-the-salary-game/#comment-752185 NoBamaNoWay Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:51:54 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/19/play-the-salary-game/#comment-752185 truth is, democrats are nothing but talk. it's like bill clinton said, it's all about delivering, and obama not going to deliver squat, except to Chicagify the rest of the country. no thanks. truth is, democrats are nothing but talk. it’s like bill clinton said, it’s all about delivering, and obama not going to deliver squat, except to Chicagify the rest of the country. no thanks.

]]> By: cocky whacko http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/4841/play-the-salary-game/#comment-752061 cocky whacko Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:03:26 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/19/play-the-salary-game/#comment-752061 She didn't know about being paid less until after the 180 days of the first act of discrimination. As I understand it, the Court's interpretation was not what Congress intended. In any case, the way the Court interpreted the statute makes it impossible to sue for discrimination. Employers have very little to fear and I more likely to discriminate the way the Court interpreted the law. What is the point of having a statute barring discrimination if there are no consequences for violating the law. She didn’t know about being paid less until after the 180 days of the first act of discrimination. As I understand it, the Court’s interpretation was not what Congress intended. In any case, the way the Court interpreted the statute makes it impossible to sue for discrimination. Employers have very little to fear and I more likely to discriminate the way the Court interpreted the law. What is the point of having a statute barring discrimination if there are no consequences for violating the law.

]]> By: cocky whacko http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/4841/play-the-salary-game/#comment-752035 cocky whacko Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:56:14 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/19/play-the-salary-game/#comment-752035 Without clarifying the statute of limitations, the act has no teeth. This allows companies to get away with paying men more for the same job. McCain has a chance to choose fair pay over corporate interests and he chose corporate interests. How is the Ledbetter Fair Pay Act similar to "Don't Ask, don't tell?" Without clarifying the statute of limitations, the act has no teeth. This allows companies to get away with paying men more for the same job. McCain has a chance to choose fair pay over corporate interests and he chose corporate interests. How is the Ledbetter Fair Pay Act similar to “Don’t Ask, don’t tell?”

]]> By: PamFlorida http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/4841/play-the-salary-game/#comment-751744 PamFlorida Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:28:42 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/19/play-the-salary-game/#comment-751744 The first line of the ad got to me: "Today many women work to help support their families." Today MOST women have to work because one salary is not enough to support a family. It's not a choice anymore. Single women with children constitute over 75% of the poorest families in the country. The first line of the ad got to me:
“Today many women work to help support their families.”
Today MOST women have to work because one salary is not enough to support a family. It’s not a choice anymore.
Single women with children constitute over 75% of the poorest families in the country.

]]> By: Tuppence 411 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/4841/play-the-salary-game/#comment-751477 Tuppence 411 Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:03:39 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/19/play-the-salary-game/#comment-751477 Well I watched the news and read the newspapers at the time; it was because it opened the door to retroactive lawsuits. Well I watched the news and read the newspapers at the time; it was because it opened the door to retroactive lawsuits.

]]> By: Tuppence 411 http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/4841/play-the-salary-game/#comment-751460 Tuppence 411 Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:00:18 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/19/play-the-salary-game/#comment-751460 If I remember correctly, there was a provision which allowed retroactive lawsuits. If I remember correctly, there was a provision which allowed retroactive lawsuits.

]]> By: Ladies, If You Didn’t Vote For Hillary…Why Are You Screaming About Your Rights Now? : NO QUARTER http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/4841/play-the-salary-game/#comment-751411 Ladies, If You Didn’t Vote For Hillary…Why Are You Screaming About Your Rights Now? : NO QUARTER Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:46:10 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/19/play-the-salary-game/#comment-751411 [...] the women to ‘get over it’ can convince me he gives a rosy red damn about my rights. No one who pays the women on his staff less than the men can convince me he gives a damn about equal pay and opportunity for women. And no man who behaves [...] [...] the women to ‘get over it’ can convince me he gives a rosy red damn about my rights. No one who pays the women on his staff less than the men can convince me he gives a damn about equal pay and opportunity for women. And no man who behaves [...]

]]> By: jyotinc http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/4841/play-the-salary-game/#comment-751354 jyotinc Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:33:46 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/19/play-the-salary-game/#comment-751354 Thank you for the info. There is no doubt I didn't make a mistake of choosing him to be the president. Action speaks louder than words. Thank you for the info. There is no doubt I didn’t make a mistake of choosing him to be the president. Action speaks louder than words.

]]> By: Steve http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/4841/play-the-salary-game/#comment-751351 Steve Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:33:08 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/19/play-the-salary-game/#comment-751351 He never practices what he preaches, but is great in fingerpointing... This is not leadership, this is childish. Does he really think that people don't check out what he says and does? The more outrageous the lie, the easier to get away with it? He never practices what he preaches, but is great in fingerpointing… This is not leadership, this is childish.

Does he really think that people don’t check out what he says and does? The more outrageous the lie, the easier to get away with it?

]]> By: jwrjr http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/4841/play-the-salary-game/#comment-751325 jwrjr Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:26:06 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/19/play-the-salary-game/#comment-751325 The only "low information" voters are the ones who vote for Obama. The voters who go and find out about the issues (rather than being spoon-fed toxic nonsense) are the ones who will vote for anybody other than Obama. The only “low information” voters are the ones who vote for Obama. The voters who go and find out about the issues (rather than being spoon-fed toxic nonsense) are the ones who will vote for anybody other than Obama.

]]> By: HC http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/4841/play-the-salary-game/#comment-751288 HC Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:15:56 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/19/play-the-salary-game/#comment-751288 In rejecting Ledbetter's appeal in Ledbetter v Goodyear, the Supreme Court said that "she could have, and should have, sued" when the pay decisions were made, instead of waiting beyond the 180-day statutory charging period. Not 90 days. Not forever. 6 months. Here is the decision: http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/search/display.html?terms=ledbetter&url=/supct/html/05-1074.ZS.html The "Ledbetter Fair Pay Act" being batted around by congress seeks to increase the 6 months. Here is the Act as it stood prior to rejection: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:h.r.02831: It doesn't say a thing about paying women less. In rejecting Ledbetter’s appeal in Ledbetter v Goodyear, the Supreme Court said that “she could have, and should have, sued” when the pay decisions were made, instead of waiting beyond the 180-day statutory charging period.

Not 90 days. Not forever. 6 months.

Here is the decision:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/search/display.html?terms=ledbetter&url=/supct/html/05-1074.ZS.html

The “Ledbetter Fair Pay Act” being batted around by congress seeks to increase the 6 months.

Here is the Act as it stood prior to rejection:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:h.r.02831:

It doesn’t say a thing about paying women less.

]]> By: Donna Brazile hating on coocoo wacko http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/4841/play-the-salary-game/#comment-751286 Donna Brazile hating on coocoo wacko Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:15:52 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/19/play-the-salary-game/#comment-751286 Hey Coo coo, Please ask BO why you don't make as much money as your more attractive counterparts! He's discriminating against you -- or are you to wacko to notice it? Stop the hate, coo coo! Hey Coo coo,

Please ask BO why you don’t make as much money as your more attractive counterparts! He’s discriminating against you — or are you to wacko to notice it?

Stop the hate, coo coo!

]]> By: cocky whacko http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/4841/play-the-salary-game/#comment-751275 cocky whacko Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:11:36 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/19/play-the-salary-game/#comment-751275 How is that the major point? I am more interested in the law than in the hiring practices of one person. How is that the major point? I am more interested in the law than in the hiring practices of one person.

]]> By: cocky whacko http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/4841/play-the-salary-game/#comment-751245 cocky whacko Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:06:23 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/09/19/play-the-salary-game/#comment-751245 No one explained why McCain is against the Lilly Ledbetter Act. That was the point of his ad. Do you agree with McCain on this issue. No one explained why McCain is against the Lilly Ledbetter Act. That was the point of his ad. Do you agree with McCain on this issue.

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