Sarah Palin, Hillary Like not Hillary Lite

Right On!

Side note on your friend’s comments– where is there any evidence that Obama would appoint anything approaching ‘centrist’ judges? His emphasis, he says, wouldn’t be on judging by the law so much as an appointee’s ‘fair-mindedness’. Almost the opposite of what a divorced-from-emotion judge should be.

There is nothing ‘centrist’ about Obama. At least McCain (against my wishes) really does work across the aisle occasionally.

I agree 100%. I don’t think it’s enough to make me vote republican, but I definitely respect McCain and Palin a hell of a lot more than I respect Obama. Not hard considering I have NO respect for Obama….but you get the point.

I think Palin is great and is tough as nails. I think that will be proven prior to the election.
I also think we all need to be sending letters to the DNC to have Hillary replace Pelosi. That way we will get a working government with McCain/Palin and House Speaker Clinton. This would be truly a win-win scenario.

And please read how Obama’s thugs have been shown up to be free speech censors in the NRO article at realclearpolitics.com

Larry, I get everything you say on character (even though I wouldn’t go as far as equating her to hillary) but some of the things she believes in and wants are probably against many traditionally democrats views on issues, so are we going to be happy when she goes after them with conviction.

I’m not on board but it will be sad to see them getting some of their Republican wished fulfilled.

Do you mean you would still vote for Obama?

Have you noticed how the appeal of Obama apologists is almost always to fear? They never evoke the hope Obama was supposed to give us. It’s always about how we should be afraid not to vote for Obama.

This includes death threats and threats of mass violence.

Where have we seen fear as a political tactic before? The Republican Party should sue for plagiarism.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk_fPi-24Iw

Love it Larry! I’m so sick of the hysteria on the left over Palin. Isn’t she the V.P. candidate? I’m a democrat and I feel the same way as you expressed in your post. Besides the research I have done on Palin, I always trust my instincts about people, they never let me down, and I have very good feelings in regard to Sarah, but my instincts tell me to run from Barky.

Sarah has conducted herself as a public servant and barky as an american idol contestant without backbone.

The article in today’s NYTimes expresses dismay that Palin has brought along some of her long-time friends and public school classmates from Wasilla to governmental positions in Anchorage. The article intimates that she rejected qualified people from the political establishment in so doing. My reaction is that OK, she knows the people that she grew up with, and she can trust them to carry through the reforms that she wants to put in place. It is possible that corruption is so rampant in Alaska that this is actually a wise policy.

I absolutely agree. From what I’ve read, heard, and seen I’d trust her without hesitation. I think that this is what scares Democrats, Obama, and the nutroots gang is that Palin is genuine–strong character, inteligent, commonsense, and willing to go to bat for what she feels is right or wrong. Obama is indimidated by her as a women and,especially, as someone more experienced than him. I think that’s why he and his campaign refuse to acknowledge that she is a sitting governor with 80+% approval ratting in her state. Obama and Biden are simply outclassed.

nycvoter, you may be voting Republican in the election when the rest of the Obama dirt is exposed. Many wait until the last minute to vote the winner, you know.

Thank you for a GREAT POST!!!!

If BO’s use of Cass Sunstein as an ‘informal advisor’ on constitutional matters like Roe v Wade is any indication, any USSCt picks that BO might make would begin with Sunstein on the right and mover over toward Roberts even further to the right.

So what’s the diff?

The simple fact is I know more about Palin, her policies and life in 2 weeks, than I do about Obama after almost 2 years.
When someone won’t reveal themselves in all that time, they are obviously hiding things…and considering what little I do know about Obama and his friends, that idea terrifies me.
Besides, the dummy told me he didn’t need my vote….my response was a rousing Alrighty then.

http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=NzI3ZDUzOTE0ZThlMTU3MTY0MDI4ZTY0MTZhY2I2MGY=

September 16, 2008, 0:28 a.m.

On Sex-Ed Ad, McCain Is Right
What was that Illinois sex-education bill really about?

By Byron York

In recent days, a consensus has developed among the Obama campaign and commentators in the press that John McCain has decided to lie his way to the White House. Exhibit A in this new consensus is McCain’s ad, released last week, claiming that Barack Obama’s “one accomplishment” in the field of education was “legislation to teach ‘comprehensive sex education’ to kindergartners.”

Within moments of the ad’s appearance, the Obama campaign called it “shameful and downright perverse.” The legislation in question, a bill in the Illinois State Senate that was supported but not sponsored by Obama, was, according to Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton, “written to protect young children from sexual predators” and had nothing to do with comprehensive sex education for kindergartners. In a stinging final shot, Burton added, “Last week, John McCain told Time magazine he couldn’t define what honor was. Now we know why.”

Newspaper, magazine, and television commentators quickly piled on. “The kindergarten ad flat-out lies,” wrote the New York Times, arguing that “at most, kindergarteners were to be taught the dangers of sexual predators.” The Washington Post wrote that “McCain’s ‘Education’ Spot is Dishonest, Deceptive.” And in a column in The Hill, the influential blogger Josh Marshall called the sex-education spot “a rancid, race-baiting ad based on [a] lie. Willie Horton looks mild by comparison.”

The condemnation has been so widespread that the Obama campaign has begun to sense success in placing the “McCain-is-a-liar” storyline in the press. But before accepting the story at face value, it might first be a good idea to examine the bill in question, look at the statements made by its supporters at the time it was introduced, talk to its sponsors today (at least the ones who will consent to speak), and find answers to a few basic questions. What were the bill’s provisions? Why was it written? Was it really just, or even mostly, about inappropriate advances? And the bottom-line question: Is McCain’s characterization of it unfair?

21st-CENTURY SEX EDUCATION
The bill in question was Senate Bill 99, introduced in the Senate in February 2003. Its broad purpose was to change and update portions of Illinois’s existing laws concerning sex education. (The text of the bill is here, and everyone interested in the issue should take a look at it.)

When the bill was introduced, a coalition of groups including the Illinois Public Health Association, the Illinois State Medical Society, the Cook County Department of Public Health, the Chicago Department of Public Health, the Illinois Planned Parenthood Council and others issued a press release headlined “Coalition of Legislators, Physicians and Organizations Bring Illinois Into the 21st Century with Omnibus Healthcare Package.” It was a three-part campaign; Senate Bill 99, covering “medically accurate sex education,” was the first part, with two other bills addressing “funding for family planning services for women in need” and “contraceptive equity in health insurance.”

According to the press release, Senate Bill 99 required that “if a public school teaches sex education, family life education, and comprehensive health education courses, all materials and instruction must be medically and factually accurate.” The bill’s main sponsor, Sen. Carol Ronen, was quoted saying, “It teaches students about the advantages of abstinence, while also giving them the realistic information they need about the prevention of an unintended pregnancy and sexually transmitted infections.” The release contained no mention of sexual predators or inappropriate touching.

What, specifically, was the bill designed to do? It appears to have had three major purposes:

The first, as Ronen indicated, was to mandate that information presented in sex-ed classes be “factual,” “medically accurate,” and “objective.”

The second purpose was to increase the number of children receiving sex education. Illinois’ existing law required the teaching of sex education and AIDS prevention in grades six through twelve. The old law read:
Each class or course in comprehensive sex education offered in any of grades 6 through 12 shall include instruction on the prevention, transmission and spread of AIDS.

Senate Bill 99 struck out grade six, changing it to kindergarten, in addition to making a few other changes in wording. It read:
Each class or course in comprehensive sex education in any of grades K through 12 shall include instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted infections, including the prevention, transmission and spread of HIV.

The bill’s third purpose was to remove value-laden language in the old law. For example, the old law contained passages like this:

Course material and instruction shall teach honor and respect for monogamous heterosexual marriage.
Course material and instruction shall stress that pupils should abstain from sexual intercourse until they are ready for marriage…
[Classes] shall emphasize that abstinence is the expected norm in that abstinence from sexual intercourse is the only protection that is 100 percent effective against unwanted teenage pregnancy [and] sexually transmitted diseases…

The proposed bill eliminated all those passages and replaced them with wording like this:
Course material and instruction shall include a discussion of sexual abstinence as a method to prevent unintended pregnancy and sexually transmitted infections, including HIV.
Course material and instruction shall present the latest medically factual information regarding both the possible side effects and health benefits of all forms of contraception, including the success and failure rates for the prevention of pregnancy and sexually transmitted infections, including HIV…

The bill gave parents and guardians the right to take their children out of sex-ed classes by presenting written objections. The bill also specified that “all sex education courses that discuss sexual activity or behavior…be age and developmentally appropriate.” And, after covering a number of other provisions, the bill addressed the issue of inappropriate advances:
Course material and instruction shall teach pupils to not make unwanted physical and verbal sexual advances and how to say no to unwanted sexual advances and shall include information about verbal, physical, and visual sexual harassment, including without limitation nonconsensual sexual advances, nonconsensual physical sexual contact, and rape by an acquaintance. The course material and instruction shall contain methods of preventing sexual assault by an acquaintance, including exercising good judgment and avoiding behavior that impairs one’s judgment. The course material and instruction shall emphasize personal accountability and respect for others and shall also encourage youth to resist negative peer pressure. The course material and instruction shall inform pupils of the potential legal consequences of sexual assault by an acquaintance. Specifically, pupils shall be advised that it is unlawful to touch an intimate part of another person as specified in the Criminal Code of 1961.

The wording of that provision suggests lawmakers were at least as concerned with protecting children from each other as from adults, and it doesn’t seem directed toward the youngest children, as Obama maintained. But there is no doubt that the bill did address the question of inappropriate touching. On the other hand, there is also no doubt that, looking at the overall bill, the “touching” provision did not have the prominence that Team Obama has suggested it had, and it certainly wasn’t the bill’s main purpose.

TOUCHY SUBJECT
After the ad controversy erupted, I asked the Obama campaign to suggest who I might interview for more information. I particularly wanted some sort of contemporaneous account showing that Obama voted for the bill because of its inappropriate-touching provision. The campaign suggested I call Ken Swanson, who is head of the Illinois Education Association and a 20-year veteran of teaching sixth-graders.

“The intent of the language and inclusion of kindergarten was simply to make it possible to offer age-appropriate, not comprehensive, information for kindergartners so that those young children could be given basic information so that they would be aware of inappropriate behavior by adults,” Swanson told me. “Certainly, it was never intended to be some sort of inappropriate information that might be appropriate for junior high or high school students.” McCain’s accusation, Swanson told me, was “bogus.”

I suggested to Swanson that the bill seemed to provide for HIV education for youngsters before the sixth grade, and perhaps as early as kindergarten. “As I recall the discussion, there was a conversation where in different places in the state — that was something that should be left to local circumstances,” Swanson told me. “What might be appropriate in an urban inner city might not be appropriate in a rural community. I don’t recall anybody, from our perspective, having a one-rule-fits-all vision.”

Swanson suggested that if I wanted to know more I should get in touch with the bill’s sponsors. There were five — State Senator Ronen, as well as Sens. M. Maggie Crotty, Susan Garrett, Iris Martinez, and Jeffrey Schoenberg. All were from the greater Chicago area. But getting in touch with them was easier said than done.

Ronen has left the Illinois state senate. When I called her home, I reached a woman who did not give me her name but told me she knew how to reach Ronen. I gave her my information, but there has been no call back, nor has Ronen answered a number of follow-up calls.

An assistant in Garrett’s office helpfully gave me the senator’s cell-phone number, so I was able to have a few brief conversations with her. In one, she said she couldn’t talk and asked me to call back in a few minutes. I did, and then did again, and ended up doing so several times over an extended period, all without an answer. The next day, I reached Garrett again, who told me that since the debate took place five years ago, she couldn’t speak about it “unless I have the bill in front of me . . . I’d be happy to do that if I could just print out the bill . . . I just want to be sure I get it right.” We agreed that I would email her the bill, but after I did, she didn’t answer the phone. She still hasn’t.

I’ve gotten no response from Crotty or Schoenberg.

That leaves Sen. Martinez, who was kind enough to speak to me by phone Monday afternoon. Martinez began by saying that the bill was indeed about inappropriate touching. “We know that young children, very, very young, have things happen to them that they don’t speak about,” Martinez told me. “It’s important that we teach our young kids very, very young to speak up.”

When I asked Martinez the rationale for changing grade six to kindergarten, she said that groups like Planned Parenthood and the Cook County Department of Health — both major contributors to the bill — “were finding that there were children younger than the sixth grade that were being inappropriately touched or molested.” When I asked about the elimination of references to marriage and the contraception passages, Martinez said that the changes were “based on some of the information we got from Planned Parenthood.”

After we discussed other aspects of the bill, I told Martinez that reading the bill, I just didn’t see it as being exclusively, or even mostly, about inappropriate touching. “I didn’t see it that way, either,” Martinez said. “It’s just more information about a whole variety of things that have to go into a sex education class, the things that are outdated that you want to amend with things that are much more current.”

So, I asked, you didn’t see it specifically as being about inappropriate touching?

“Absolutely not.”

“THAT WASN’T WHAT I HAD IN MIND”
The controversy over the McCain sex-ed ad is a rerun of a similar controversy that erupted in the 2004 Illinois Senate race, when Obama’s opponent, the Republican transplant Alan Keyes, brought up the same issue. In a debate that year, when Keyes accused Obama of supporting sex education for kindergartners, Obama answered, “Actually, that wasn’t what I had in mind. We have a existing law that mandates sex education in the schools. We want to make sure that it’s medically accurate and age-appropriate. Now, I’ll give you an example, because I have a six-year-old daughter and a three-year-old daughter, and one of the things my wife and I talked to our daughter about is the possibility of somebody touching them inappropriately, and what that might mean. And that was included specifically in the law, so that kindergarteners are able to exercise some possible protection against abuse, because I have family members as well as friends who suffered abuse at that age. So, that’s the kind of stuff that I was talking about in that piece of legislation.”

Obama’s explanation for his vote has been accepted by nearly all commentators. And perhaps that is indeed why he voted for Senate Bill 99, although we don’t know for sure. But we do know that the bill itself was much more than that. The fact is, the bill’s intention was to mandate that issues like contraception and the prevention of sexually-transmitted diseases be included in sex-education classes for children before the sixth grade, and as early as kindergarten. Obama’s defenders may howl, but the bill is what it is.

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Byron York, NR’s White House correspondent, is the author of the book The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy: The Untold Story of How Democratic Operatives, Eccentric Billionaires, Liberal Activists, and Assorted Celebrities Tried to Bring Down a President — and Why They’ll Try Even Harder Next Time

Oh, you mean like the fear they instilled in us about the possibility of a terrorist attack? Those dirty bastards.

Sarah Palin is no Hillary Clinton in my book. Not even close. But then, who is? Just because she’s better than Obama…but then, who isn’t?

Character comes from ones deeds.

Obama has no good deeds that I’m aware of and has ZERO character. Obama has NEVER walked the walked- NEVER!!

Both Sarah and Hillary WALK the WALK. What man has had to put up with the sick crap that these two powerful women have been target of??

“Character is doing the right thing when nobody’s looking.”

Not sure who originally came up with this phrase, but it does indeed distinguish the choices in the upcoming election. McCain and Palin have proven their character while nobody is looking, while Obama seems to always be playing to an audience.

OT – but wanted to let you know that someone in America (Hint: His name is Barack Obama) is upset about this news:

Barclays to acquire Lehman capital markets: source

Lehman avoids bankruptcy!

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/barclays-buy-lehmans-core-us/story.aspx?guid=%7BE27A45D6%2D4A76%2D4CB3%2D952E%2D41FE73F9BC80%7D

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — U.S. stocks rallied in the final hour of trading to close higher Tuesday, reversing some of the Monday’s stinging losses on expectations the government might step in to rescue embattled insurer American International Group Inc.

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/us-stocks-rally-close-higher/story.aspx?guid=%7B749C7836%2D322F%2D46B5%2DA581%2D6E33E89CDE7B%7D

Obama’s comments this week show him to be in an absolute panic attack. He is not showing leadership ability. He’s showing himself to be Chicken Little.

Obama ran an attack ad today against McCain, showing video of workers at Lehman leaving. Looks like those workers will be keeping their jobs afterall. You know Obama is mad about that!

God Bless America!

McCain-Palin ’08
Hillary ’12

A politician with principles is novel indeed.

That’s probably why she frightens some SO much.

Byron York from the National Review has done a good job of going through the bill that the John McCain campaign used in their “Education” video ad regarding Barack Obama’s support of Senate Bill 99 which would allow kindergartners to be taught sexual education.

Video ad below:

http://wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/2008/09/fact-checking-mccain-ad-saying-obama.html

The ad above says Barack Obama voted for a bill that would teach sex education to kindergartners and the Obama campaign denied the assertion and accused the McCain campaign of lies and smears. Pulling up the text of the bill gives the answers.
Criticisms from the Obama campaign came out immediately after the McCain ad was released, with the Obama campaign calling it “shameful and downright perverse,” and Obama spokesman Bill Burton saying the bill Obama supported was “written to protect young children from sexual predators.”

McCain spokesperson Tucker Bound’s responded by stating “the Obama campaign did not and cannot dispute a shred of the content in the ad.”

The text of the ad in question:

Education Week says Obama hasn’t made a significant mark on Education.
That he’s elusive on accountability.
A staunch defender of the existing public school monopoly.
Obama’s one accomplishment?
Legislation to teach comprehensive sex education to kindergartners.
Learning about sex before learning to read?
Barack Obama, wrong on education.
Wrong for your family.

The media jumped in with some saying McCain distorted the facts of the bill, the left accused the McCain campaign of lies and smears and the Obama campaign created an ad called honor in response to the McCain ad.

All the ink dedicated to one specific ad, about a bill that Obama did not sponsor but did support, and which did not get passed into law, aroused curiosity across the Web, which was easily satisfied by looking into the text of Senate Bill 99 and the press release that proceeded the vote on the three part package which includes Senate Bill 99.

The opening paragraph of the release states:

An unprecedented package of legislation aimed at preventing unintended pregnancies, reducing the need for abortion and reducing the spread of sexually transmitted infections will be unveiled today at a Springfield press conference. Composed of three separate bills, the legislation will cover: 1) medically accurate sex education; 2) funding for family planning services for women in need; 3) contraceptive equity in health insurance.

The Sponsor of the original bill, Senator Carol Ronen, was quoted in the release as saying, “It teaches students about the advantages of abstinence, while also giving them the realistic information they need about the prevention of an unintended pregnancy and sexually transmitted infections.”

SENATE BILL 99.

Sec. 27-9.1. Sex Education. (A)

Each class or course in comprehensive sex education offered in any of grades K through 12 shall include instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted infections, including the prevention, transmission and spread of HIV.

Section one supports the McCain ad assertions that sexual education is the specific purpose of Senate Bill 99.

Part 2.2.1 of Section One, also offers Barack Obama some protection about his voting for Senate Bill 99 where it states:

(2) All (1) course material and instruction shall be age and developmentally appropriate.

Immediately following that line in the bill comes the purpose for the bill:

Course material and instruction shall include a discussion of sexual abstinence as a method to prevent unintended pregnancy and sexually transmitted infections, including HIV.

Course material and instruction shall present the latest medically factual information regarding both the possible side effects and health benefits of all forms of contraception, including the success and failure rates for the prevention of pregnancy and sexually transmitted infections, including HIV.

Course material and instruction shall include a discussion of the possible consequences of unintended pregnancy and sexually transmitted infections, including HIV.

Then we come to the portion of the bill that Obama spokesman, Bill Burton, says the bill was intended for, which in his words were “written to protect young children from sexual predators.”

“Course material and instruction shall teach pupils to not make unwanted physical and verbal sexual advances and how to say no to unwanted sexual advances and shall include information about verbal, physical, and visual sexual harassment, including without limitation nonconsensual sexual advances, nonconsensual physical sexual contact, and rape by an acquaintance. The course material and instruction shall contain methods of preventing sexual assault by an acquaintance, including exercising good judgment and avoiding behavior that impairs one’s judgment. The course material and instruction shall emphasize personal accountability and respect for others and shall also encourage youth to resist negative peer pressure. The course material and instruction shall inform pupils of the potential legal consequences of sexual assault by an acquaintance. Specifically, pupils shall be advised that it is unlawful to touch an intimate part of another person as specified in the Criminal Code of 1961.”

There is more to the actual bill, but these portions show that both candidates are specifying the portions of the bill that they wish to focus on and both candidates ignored the portions of the bill that their opponents wish to focus on.

The McCain campaign did not add the unwanted touching portion of the bill to their video ad and the Obama campaign did not acknowledge the focus of the bill as stated in the news release and in the very first paragraph of Senate Bill 99.

Neither candidate lied, neither candidate distorted, and yet their has been much ink dedicated to this topic, when a simple reading of the bill itself could have answered all the questions.

The McCain ad is factually correct and the Obama campaigning trying to deny it so vehemently, simply gave people a reason to look into the actual bill itself instead of just chalking the ad up to politics.

The Obama campaign should have left this alone because now people will be shown the bill, which does, indeed, allow for children as young as 6 to be taught sexual educations and that while it did not become law, Barack Obama did, in fact, support the bill.

Others discussing this, via memeorandum:

Townhall.com, The Corner, Althouse, Eduwonk, QandO, pandagon.net, Weekly Standard, The Other McCain and Patterico’s Pontifications

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Obama has no experience to deal with any of the big issues. He’s worthless and I can’t wait for him to disappear from the stage- EXIT STAGE LEFT!

nycvoter,

you’ve placed your finger right on the conundrum which I (and probably many others) face.

I will in all likelihood vote for McCain/Palin, but I KNOW for a fact that I won’t be voting with 100% conviction.

Difficult choices, fer’ sure…

-MS

hell no!!!! I’m still trying to decide between voting 3rd party or voting for McCain. I change my mind every day because McCain really does go against a lot of beliefs I hold but at the same time, I really have a lot of respect for him and think he would make a better President than Obama.

My 3rd party candidate of choice would be Cynthia McKinney. She holds a lot of the same beliefs as me but has no chance of winning… But I also like the idea of voting for her because it is a way of showing my rejection of the two party system.

I don’t think anyone is trying to say Palin replaces Hillary or that one is better than the other. They both have admirable careers and lives. Having Hillary in there w McCain and Palin somewhere in a position of leadership would really add alot to the cabinet. Can you imagine having the best and brightest from both sides? We need some friggin’ grown ups in Washington who aren’t arrogant, self serving and greedy and remember what their job is and play nice. McCain, Palin and Hillary all get that. Both sides need to quit acting like little playground bullies and act like damn adults. For god’s sake, let’s get the United States of America back on track!!

BUT!!!,

Nobama, No way…

-MS

Bush won with the FEAR Factor also in 2004. And Obama and Bush have way more in common than Bush and McCain.

I truly like the way Dinae Sawyer tried to bait Hillary about McCain and Palin……and failed. wow, Hillary is dignified and classy…..

“Good Morning America’s” train tour across the country continued on Tuesday with Diane Sawyer interviewing Hillary Clinton and encouraging the senator to agree that John McCain is too old to be president. She also jokingly invited the former first lady aboard, telling her the program could “go out and buy you some pajamas.”

But first, adopting the liberal talking points that McCain might die soon, the ABC host wondered, “…Senator Claire McCaskill said recently that she felt that it was a dangerous decision to pick Governor Palin, because of Senator McCain’s age and because of his health. Do you agree?” After Clinton declined to support McCaskill’s contention, Sawyer prompted, “So, you’re not going to endorse what she said?”

SAWYER: Senator McCaskill, Senator Claire McCaskill said recently that she felt that it was a dangerous decision to pick Governor Palin, because of Senator McCain’s age and because of his health. Do you agree?

CLINTON: You know, what I said, is we have to keep focused on the differences between the Republicans and the Democrats. This goes way beyond any one candidate. It’s really about the future that we have to fight for. And I am doing all I can to keep focused on what matters in the lives of Americans. We have a better economic policy. You know, we had a difficult situation in 1993, when my husband became president. Democrats fixed it. We have all kinds of challenges. And if we don’t look at the differences between what Senator McCain and Governor Palin offer, in terms of policies, and in my view, misplaced policies, compared to what we offer, then we’re going to get diverted and we’re not going to make the right decisions.

SAWYER: So, you’re not going to endorse what she said?

CLINTON: You know, I think the point is not the vice presidential candidate on the other side, with all due respect. It’s the presidential candidate. Senator McCain is not offering much of a change from what has already been the policies of the Republicans and of this administration.

what did your “instincts” tell you about GW?

tell me that and I can then tell if you are of sound mind

lol, kidding

MANY MANY people were fooled by that nit wit!

we don’t need another one (whether he’ll turn out to be as dangerous a W or not we can not tell but one thing we know for SURE is he spent 20 yrs being propagandized by someone he claims he never realized had such hate in them. That kind of ignorance and HUGE lack of judgment IS dangerous!!!)

FACTS? FACTS? The Obama campaign doesn’t want to have to deal with these facts!!

Great find! York nailed it!

I disagree with many of Sarah’s policies, but I greatly admire her as a person. I think she’s more qualified than BO to be president.

Every time you write something like this Larry I smile the whole time I am reading it.

YES Palin is different from Hillary…But what I see in her is someone who fights for the people and she has proven herself over and over again…

Yes she is strong, she is fresh,she is true to her word and I think I can see what all those people in Alaska see in her.

Obama aspires to be what she is …a person for the people who makes change happen…you know she ran on “change” in Alaska

lmao @ alrighty then! (sounded like Seinfeld in my mind)

lmao!!!

AMEN SISTER!

Except she is sort of “out there.” I wonder if McCain is a more realistic choice.

From my post above, Hillary refuses to smear Palin, inspite of bait from Diane Sawyer. Hillary Clinton is truly a classy woman. Clinton and Palin respect each other. Unlike most others. Good for them.

And she did not have her eye on running for President. She did what she thought was right…

Ditto. These fools better stop comparing her to Barry too. It’s night and day. Oh, is that racist of me to use that metaphor? I guess I’m immune to it now.

Bud what ones?

So do you all still believe McCain is doing the right thing by taking the high road ?

You guys all called me a troll for stating the obvious 2 days ago. All momentum is with Obama, things are trending his way, and McCains reluctance to fire back will cost him …

Just because I hate Obama, its not going to cause me to ignore reality.

The simple fact is I know more about Palin, her policies and life in 2 weeks, than I do about Obama after almost 2 years.

Ain’t it the truth!

This feeding frenzy on Sarah is designed to put enough pressure on her to drop out.That possibility is more remote with each passing day. So by the time election day rolls around, the anti-Palins will have shot their wad when it comes to her. What will they use against McCain? He’s old. and, ummm…what else?

Meantime, the republicans are sitting on a treasure chest of legitimate questions that need to be asked about the One. Since the MSM has not done their job in vetting him, it will be left to the 527s and intrepid internet bloggers. The MSM is going to wish they never gave Barky a pass.

for those thinking of a 3rd pary candidate. Why?
If you are voting for them because you dislike Obama and do not trust him. Would you not rather vote for someone who can actually win?
Also, as for social issues, Palin has never governed from her social beliefs. No evidence of it.
As she said, she is pro-life but we can agree that both sides can work toward reducing abortion.
Is that extreme? In alaska she gave gay couples rights.
Asked how she feels about gays she said sh would not judge anyone.
The whole idea that all republicans are wingnuts or to far off what you believe is just baloney. McCain is a centrist like bill Clinton. McCain has no issue ruffling his party’s feathers for what is right.

Also, exactly what is it you disagree with so much? I used to think the same way that i did not agree. But i found i agree with them more than i thought, once i took off the partisan blinders and cleared out the BS that dems always say they will do but never do.

My instincts told me to run from GWb and he was a puppet.

Sound familiar?

Bridgette, you have described my own inner dialogue exactly!

Yeah, I’m not convinced the JM won’t actually be the one more likely to go Centrist on a judge pick, both because of JM’s nature and Obama’s as well. I see Obama being highly likely to select the most far-left judge he can get through a Reid Senate. How conservative a judge could McCain get through Reid’s senate?

I voted for Kerry with less than 80% conviction, so I can definitely mark that box for McCain/Palin.

I like that one

I also like the one (I can’t quote it) from King James (and others) about a man (or woman I presume) being more cherished (or the like) for praying in private when NO ONE is watching

as opposed to preaching in public just for the adulation of it all

or that’s how I took the lesson

one has to wonder just what Bambi does in private
cuz he sure likes to preach and pontificate in public

JM08, we were not calling you a troll. But you are a typical dem with the sky is falling attitude.
McCain baited obama, now he is going totally negative. an election is not lost in a day. I don’t know what to tell you. I have optimism, not hopelessness. He is still ahead and has tightened almost every state. Even NY and NJ.
The high road is what got him that lead. He was not negative in his acceptance speach he was positive.

Paul3Triple -

Look at the last 7 presidential elections …

Bush
Bush
Clinton
Clinton
Bush Sr.
Reagan
Reagan

Which one of those won by being a gentleman and taking the high road ?

Well Said!!

Palin genuinely works for the best interests of all the people. Even though she has stong beliefs roe v. wade for example but as a leader she did not try to force them on the population. But she did live by as an example of her beliefs.

I think if we can ever get an honest read on the removal of Mr Monegan we will find that again she was working in the best interests of the whole state.

And for the record, I would seriously question the judgment of man who didn’t remove a trooper who has:
~admitted to using his taser on his step son (this can cause life long damage to the hear muscle of a child)
~has been reprimanded more than once for tardiness
~has been reprimanded for doing personal personal business on trooper time.
~has been reprimanded for reckless driving in his official vehicle
~threatening the life of his father in law
~threatened to “bring down” Sarah Palin (even though she wasn’t in office at the time)
~he was observed drinking on duty
~he had a restraining order against him
~there are allegations of spousal abuse against the trooper.

I ask you is this man on the force in the best interests of public safety? I’d fire him or want him fired too.

Obama campaign should check with the Illinois people who are interested in the sex education rhetoric. They’d not lie & say the law was about inappropriate touching.

It wasn’t about that in any way, shape or form!
They. admitted. that. it. wasn’t.

Obama is undoubtedly the most pathetic and out of touch candidate I have ever seen!

it is in the timing JM….its all in the timing…

When talking about medical things where is nobomba’s medical report…I have two kids that work in chemical dependency. We were talking about it the other night…From what I understand coke stays in your system for a long time. That would make it hard to show a report of any kind if you are still using…If you look at his eyes and face sometimes when he is speaking….Makes you wonder….

Yes, these are things I’m learning this election cycle and why I believe Palin is not to be feared.

“I always trust my instincts about people, they never let me down.”

So they led you to vote for Bush twice.

Lesson Number One in how to get out of a hole:

Stop Digging.

Anyway, don’t sweat it, half the country turned moron twice as well.

I do have something to thank John McCain about: I was toying with the idea, as I did in 1964, of voting for a man I admired as a man but not as a leader. Either that or I was going to stay home (difficult to do in ’64 because I was going overseas as a guest of Uncle Sugar).

McCain’s choice of Palin removed that dilemma. In one fell swoop John McCain gave me a fundamentalist Christian nutcase which is both secretive and stubborn to despise just like I the despicable, secretive, stubborn, fundamentalist Christian nutcase I voted against in 2004.

Sometimes they make it easy.

My instincts toward GW was that he would not make a good president, that he was not the man for the job. I did not vote for him.

My instinct about Barack Obama is that he is a wofl in sheeps clothing, that he is dangerous for the country.

My instinct about McCain and Palin is that they have care about our country and will put the country’s good before party or self-interest.

That is the reason why you have my attention and that is the why I blog here. The truth.

Paul3Triple-

McCain did not get the lead by taking the high road. McCain got the lead by giving in to the republican base and picking Palin. Without Palin, McCain would be 7-8 down, and dont get over confident about the state polls, they always lag behind the national polls, and now that the national polls are trending Obamas favor, the state polls will begin to also reflect a shift to Obama in a few days.

I am not a troll. I dont want a Obama to win, but what do you want me to do here, start talking how Obama is imploding and falling apart, when it is clear Obama is forcing the action and being being rewarded in the polls.

btw, I’m wondering who else is in this situation

we just went out to get the mail and pick up a burger and realized we have 1/8 tank of gas and there are NO GAS stations selling gas around her today!!!

went back home w/out wandering too far to call around first

how freaking bizarre – we may be stuck in our home for the next few days until someone starts selling gas again

weird

typos

her = here

etc

McCain-Palin 2008 Launches “Honest and Open Election Committee”

http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/News/PressReleases/Read.aspx?guid=90c928f6-38c7-4dc3-86c6-15149dbb8e07

Memo: Barack Obama And Sex Education
http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/News/PressReleases/73f18a26-711a-44be-8034-20fec4fb6a89.htm

McCain was taking it from all sides over that sex ed ad…

Gee, the article intimates that this is something unsual in politics. The media thinks we’re dopes.

“has been reprimanded more than once for tardiness”

Thank you.

lmao too!

Consider the source – NYTimes!

That is the Best point I have ever seen stated in this race. Bravo!

On the issue of Gov. Palin having met foreign leaders, until his worldwind tour, Senator Obama hadn’t either and he is running for President. Many past Vice Presidential candidates had not met foreign leaders before the ran for office. Why is Gov. Palin being held to a different standard? The reason, she is a woman. How dare she run for high office. Isn’t that about the way it goes with the penis brigade in Washington. On the boys get the high end jobs. Isn’t that what Senator Clinton was being told? Give me a break. I would like to see every good old boy out of Washington for good. This country would be better off if women ran it.

you’re the NUT CASE IF you are more worried about a legitimate Christian women and her 5 kids compared to

BARRY HUSSEIN BLK LIBERATION THEOLOGIST GOD DAMN AMERICA!!!J

ROFLMAO that is the most IGNORANT thing I”VE EVER READ!!!

OBAMA’S RELIGION IS NOTHING BUT HATE

omg are they really that stupid

and I hope the moron keeps on walking…

Yeah I agree…she IS a little out there. But that’s kind of what I like about her. She’s not afraid of what people might think of her and that way she does what she believes in.

The problem with politics today is that politicians don’t want to take tough stands on certain issues because they know that once they do, they’re going tick 1/2 the country off and they need some of that 1/2 to get elected.

I think Obama is the worst when it comes to actually taking a stance on an issue. That is the main reason I have no respect for him.

While it’s nice that some Hillary Clinton supporters are now supporting McCain/Palin, that was not the purpose of the Palin candidacy. Rather, it was to reach out to libertarian voters who were leaving the GOP en masse to support Libertarian Presidential candidate Bob Barr. The LP ticket had been polling as high as 6% in Zogby nationwide, and even 11% in New Hampshire and 10% in Nevada.

Of course the McCain camp had seen those numbers.

What’s most important in this election cycle is the all-important libertarian swing voters. The female vote, especially the ex-Clinton supporter vote, is way overblown.

Glad I’m not the only one having difficulties figuring out what to do!

we have gas here in OK…no stops yet

Smilin’ Jim,

Despite your complaint about Bush, it’s still 7/0 with terrorists losing. [Quoting a well-known conservative writer.]

Still, gotta admit, Coulter’s right. Can’t argue with numbers, can you?

You really trust the Democrats with national security????? comeonnow………

When is the last time you remember Obama having to defend anything ? Its been a long long long time ….

McCain and Palin are constantly on the defense. The MSM when left to their own devices simply will stay on the attack against McCain/palin and continue to glorify Obama.

The only way that will change is if McCain forced the issue and brought up Ayers, Rezko, Rev. Wright etc …

personally I think you have that reversed!

you are right…independent voters usually pick the winner…I voted for Hill but McCain was always #2.

It’s amazing, but it took this fraudulent primary engineered by the democratic party to open my eyes to other people and other viewpoints. I always thought that the democrats had all the right positions, all the right answers and all the right people. Until 2008. Then the DNC put up a totally unqualified person (in case you are wondering who, it is Obama) as their candidate of choice and threw the most qualified person (in case you are wondering who, Hillary Clinton) under a bus and left her and Bill to lie there bleeding. When I saw what happened with my own eyes, I was shocked, distressed, disgusted and angry that people who I thought were better than Republicans sunk to their level. I started listening to John McCain and was surprised to find out he has some good things to say, and he says them with more honesty than Obama has done in his short-lived career. While I do not agree with Sarah Palin’s ultra-conservative views, I defend her right to have those views, something I probably would not have done prior to this year. But I can see a wider picture now, and the truth is, our government should have democrats, republicans and independents to work for us and that is what John McCain proposes to do in his cabinet. God forbid the democrats win all three branches, that is a recipe for disaster just like the Republicans took us down the wrong road with no oversight. If nothing else came out of this horrible mess many of us democrats find ourselves in, without a party, and not backing the DNC candidate of choice, at least for me, I feel I actually am more tolerant of other view points and feel it will be okay if McCain would win in November, even if I cannot bring myself to vote for him. It has certainly been a crazy year! Larry, thanks for your articles.

Most Libertarians I know don’t vote EVER!

exactly! I love it when people tell me how scared I should be about palin christian fundamentals but fail to realized that Barry is part of the black theology who think that America is one evil place that deserves to be damned.

yea baby!

There are more women than liberarians, you know, as the Democrats are finding out.

Ironman,
Today’s financial situation reminds me of a BBC program I had heard a while ago…

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/document/document_20070723.shtml

This article describes an attempt at a bloodless coup inside the United States.

Learning about shook me up a bit…

Some say that we are a facing a state of economic emergency right now.

pig with lipstick is still a pig…he was on defense

he yelled “Enough” at the media and McCain

Let’s see you take on reforming your party and big oil, I would say you wanted some friends watching your back.

I concur, except to say that both GWB and Oblahblah are arrogant ignoramuses. The only difference is party affiliation.

TV on in the background — Obama ranting about the failure of the economy — it’s all Republican fault– I’m going to have a stroke, my blood pressure is rising, I know too much and he can’t hear me as I scream at the tv — I want his audience to know that he took money from all these Wall Street Businesses – I want them to know he was the #2 recipient of money from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac lobbyists — I want them to know that he voted against a NAFTA amendment that would have given American workers more protection. Now, where did I put that wine bottle? You know, my life had less stress before I happened upon the No Quarter blog.

Make sure we all make this point to anyone we can.

We have to unmask Obama before the end of the month. Our nation’s future sepends on it.

Me, too! Add to the choices: Write-in Hillary Clinton!

This whole election has been infurating!
Again, all over the news today we are told about Obama and the economy. His entire plan is to blame John McCain. Not one word about how he would fix a thing. In fact twice he’s released statements about why he offers no solution. Yesterday it was that he was waiting for things to play out, today it is he has not seen Lehman’s books.
Meanwhile McCain and Palin are offering solutions; regulation reform, accountibility,with a resounding positive message. Adding that yes, there’s work to be done. Americans will do it and they deserve a government that WORKS for them.
As someone so intelligently pointed out here, Obama is not offering leadership with his chicken little attitude, but McCain is out there fighting again. Fighting to even be heard above Obama blame game.
Why is this allowed day after day? How can a policy or recovery plan consist only of blaming your opponenet?
I seriously cannot stand another second of it. There is no adminstrative position in which you could behave in this manner, how does he get away with this?!!!????

ditto that!

You just might be pleasantly surprised…

Why do you think McCain got EXCORIATED during the 2000 election?

He’s a MODERATE!

McCain-Palin 2008!

yes but they will keep a lot of those women just using Roe…like it would be overturned…even if it was it would be a state thing…

MSNBC is keeping them brainwashed with the lies.

The tracking polls will show Obama with a 1-2 point lead tommorrow. The reason why McCain has dropped 3 days in a row is, because Obama is polling better. McCains good days will eventually drop off and the race will settle with about a 5 point lead. Good news for McCain is Obama wont go higher than 5, but Obama will be in a position to run out the clock 5 ahead. McCain needs a game changer to shift the momentum, but that would require McCain making personal attacks on Obama questioning his patriotism, but McCain wont do that, even though Obama is mocking and ridiculing him daily.

I take the blame for the dull comparisons all the way to the top. It was Obama comparing himself to Palin that started the snowball of comparing Palin to everyone from Hillary to Houdini.

A respected Army commander indicated that the Obama Tactics are known in West Point barracks as “Rat Fucking”, where you do everything in your power to make yourself look good at the expense of everyone else.

And, while on that subject.

Army intelligence agents have confirmed that Obama’s military combat experience consist of 5 failed attempts at a Chicago drive by shooting to eliminate another community activist competing for campaign funds.

But, Sarah can shoot straight.

giving him some rope…

Those of you undecideds who vote in swing states, I would urge you to hold your nose and vote McCain. Did you see the video in the previous article, showing the Democratic “nomination” that for all intensive purposes looks like a modern-day Hitler rally?

In a less critical election, I’d say vote third party. But not this year. Obama subverted democracy by cheating in the caucuses. ACORN is now committing voter fraud across the country in an attempt to steal the election for Obama.

It’s possible that Bush might have stolen an election, but we don’t have 1/10th the evidence on him as we do on Obama. And Bush was never put out there as a dictator-like leader with the fanfare we’ve seen with Obama. There is and never was any Cult of Bush.

Obama dangerous. He is an egotistical narcissist with delusions of grandeur. We cannot have someone like him in the White House. We at least know that McCain is humble and not in this for his ego. For that reason alone, vote McCain, I beg you.

It’s a refreshing notion that someone representing small town and rural America be sent to Washington (Palin).

I love the whole “outsider” theme. Way too many Washington insiders and professional politicians are running things now.

Great post, Larry!

The last time I was excited about a Democratic nominee was Al Gore. We all know how that turned out. I always felt he should have fought that more strenuously, and pulled the country from the jaws of disaster, but he chose to accept the decision of the SCOTUS.

I remember getting in fights with other women at work about GWB in the run-up to the election. I thought he was a complete fool who had no business running for president (deja vu all over again with BHO). I thought for sure the American people were smart enough to see through the cowboy swagger. I thought the same about Barack, the pseudo-intellectual. I think that is why he is so appealing to people. They think he is the opposite of Bush, but he is really more like him in temperament and style.

My gut is not totallyat peace with Mc Cain, but far more than with Barack. I just think he is dangerous and has so many vulnerabilities if he would be elected. A person with such a clouded past must be concealing something. Mc Cain is pretty much an open book.

The above quotes, BTW, were from theSpoof.com

I didn’t want to pull a Joe Barry here.

Thank you for the article. There is quality of ‘authenticity’ about both of them. Charm and smarts also.

You cannot show me one instance where Barack Obama or Joe Biden put their careers at risk over principle. Not one.

100% right on the money, Larry. Both John McCain and Sarah Palin have taken on established elements within their own party when they felt it was the right thing to do. McCain in particular has paid a significant price for doing so. The way the far right wing talk radio hosts were absolutely savaging him during the GOP primaries was unbelievable.

Neither Barack Obama or Joe Biden has ever had the courage to stand up to the far left wing of the Democratic Party.

Now, which team is more likely to truly work across the aisle with the other party to try and reach a consensus in the political middle?

Country first,

You’re right and really intelligent folks know these things. Certain members of Congress who ALLOWED unqualified buyers to secure non-adviseable loans should be arrested! Why was Tom Delay raked over coals and made to be accountable and Democrats aren’t???? (Not saying that Delay wasn’t wrong.)

MEMBERS of CONGRESS are responsible for the economic mess! Obama knows that! He’s one of them.

It may be instructive to recall the history of Harry truman. When selected to be FDR’s running mate in 1944 to replace Henry Wallace as VP, truman had up to then had only an undistinguished career in the Senate and before that county judge. Truman was by no means savvy in the international arena at that time. Even after becoming VP, FDR kept Truman in the dark about the prosecution of the war effort. Truman became president three months after being sworn in as VP due to the death of FDR and had to assume the office of presidency in a very difficult time.

Truman was a quick study. Palin possesses that same quality.

Er…if you think the Democrats are hopeless on national security, you’re at the wrong blog. PUMA is a Democratic group. If you want to talk like a winger, wing your way to a winger blog, my friend.

Democrats vs. Republicans on national security:

President Clinton led the fight against terrorism over strong opposition from Republicans in Congress and the pro-Republican Media. Here’s a partial – yet incredibly long – list of accomplishments against terrorism for which the Clinton Administration gets almost no credit or even recognition. President Clinton:

– sent legislation to Congress to TIGHTEN AIRPORT SECURITY. (Remember, this is before 911) The legislation was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the airlines.

– sent legislation to Congress to allow for BETTER TRACKING OF TERRORIST FUNDING. It was defeated by Republicans in the Senate because of opposition from banking interests.

– sent legislation to Congress to add tagents to explosives, to allow for BETTER TRACKING OF EXPLOSIVES USED BY TERRORISTS. It was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the NRA.

When Republicans couldn’t prevent executive action, President Clinton:

– Developed the nation’s first anti-terrorism policy, and appointed first national coordinator.

– Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up 12 U.S. jetliners simultaneously.

– Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up UN Headquarters.

– Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up FBI Headquarters.

– Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up the Israeli Embassy in Washington.

–Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up Boston airport.

– Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up Lincoln and Holland Tunnels in NY.

– Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up the George Washington Bridge.

– Stopped cold the planned attack to blow up the US Embassy in Albania.

– Tried to kill Osama bin Laden and disrupt Al Qaeda through preemptive strikes (efforts denounced by the G.O.P.).

– Brought perpetrators of first World Trade Center bombing and CIA killings to justice.

– Did not blame Bush I administration for first World Trade Center bombing even though it occurred 38 days after they had left office. Instead, worked hard, even obsessively — and successfully — to stop future terrorist attacks.

– Named the Hart-Rudman commission to report on nature of terrorist threats and major steps to be taken to combat terrorism.

– Tripled the budget of the FBI for counterterrorism and doubled overall funding for counterterrorism.

– Detected and destroyed cells of Al Qaeda in over 20 countries

– Created a national stockpile of drugs and vaccines including 40 million doses of smallpox vaccine.

– Robert Oakley, Reagan Counterterrorism Czar says of Clinton’s efforts “Overall, I give them very high marks” and “The only major criticism I have is the obsession with Osama”

– Paul Bremer, Bush’s Administrator of Iraq disagrees slightly with Robert Oakley saying he believed the Clinton Administration had “correctly focused on bin Laden. ”

– Barton Gellman of the Washington Post put it best, “By any measure available, Clinton left office having given greater priority to terrorism than any president before him” and was the “first administration to undertake a systematic anti-terrorist effort.”

Here, in stark contrast, is part of the Bush-Cheney anti-terrorism record before September 11, 2001:

– Backed off Clinton administration’s anti-terrorism efforts.

– Shelved the Hart-Rudman report.

– Appointed new anti-terrorism task force under Dick Cheney. Group did not even meet before 9/11.

– Called for cuts in anti-terrorism efforts by the Department of Defense.

– Gave no priority to anti-terrorism efforts by Justice Department.

– Ignored warnings from Sandy Berger, Louis Freeh, George Tennant, Paul Bremer, and Richard Clarke about the urgency of terrorist threats.

– Halted Predator drone tracking of Osama bin Laden.

– Did nothing in wake of August 6 C.I.A. report to president saying Al Qaeda attack by hijack of an airliner almost certain.

– Bush – knowing about the terrorists’ plans to attack in America, warned that terrorists were in flight schools in the US – took a four week vacation.

– By failing to order any coordination of intelligence data, missed opportunity to stop the 9/11 plot as Clinton-Gore had stopped the millennium plots.

– Blamed President Clinton for 9/11.

http://www.mikehersh.com/printer_Clinton_vs_Terror_Republicans_vs_Clinton.shtml

Where do you get that information from? Are you on the inside? I just saw Scott Rasmussen on FOX and he didn’t say anything like that.

JFK rejected qualified people from the establishment to appoint his brother Robert as Attorney-General, for some of the same reasons you attribute to Palin. The result was good for the country. Not that we’ll ever read that in the NYT.

JM08, your not running an agressive campaign by answering and explaining every charge your opponent makes. That is a suckers campaign.
McCain has been agressive.Palin cut him to shreds at the rnc and continues to do so on the stump and they have in ads.

Anyone with even a pair of functional brain cells knows full well that Barack Obama would appoint liberal “activist” judges to the Supreme Court. It would be part & parcel of his plan to forcibly redistribute power and resources in this country to redress what he sees as profound social injustices.

wOOT!

…and even for those who won’t admit the character similarities and look at some of the issues not being the same, I say, yeah, so what?

They insult our intelligence with their constant writings of “Sarah isn’t Hillary”. Can we get a DUH?

But for the issues and positions we do support or have in common with Sarah Palin and John McCain, they are far more in line with than Backtrack Obama with Biden.

So really, if you don’t want to keep increasing the numbers for McCain and Palin, stop with this non sense.

So the philosphy here is that McCain is brillant by allowing Obama to ridcule and mock him daily, and retake the lead in the polls, because ….

How do you guys ee this playing out ?

You seem to think that it would be much better if McCain was down by 5 when he starts attacking, rather than up by 5 …

So if you were all football coaches then you would tell your team to not try and to fall behind 35-0, and then start trying with 6 minutes left in the 4th quarter …

Interesting strategy ….

If Sarah Palin was Hillary Clinton, most conservatives would not be this enthusiastic. She’s a breath of fresh air which is what we need in Washington.

Hillary will do just fine taking over Harry Reid’s job.

Don’t get too comfy Harry.

If you vote 3rd party, you’re in effect voting for Obama. This is a two man race, and every vote that McCain doesn’t get equals one in Obama’s column. Take a deep breath, swallow hard, and vote for McCain/Palin. It’s the right thing to do.

JM08,
Let Obama attack. McCain is showing himself to be able to dodge the bullets, show his opponent what a little guys he is.

The more Obama attacks, the more errors he makes. He is just showing himself to be the America hater he is.
McCain doesn’t need to question Obama’s patriotism, Obama is doing it himself.

Larry, I agree with you 100%. You left only one fact out, when she took on her party and resigned the Alaska Conservation Commission, she gave up a $130,000/year job. On principle, in a state controlled by the Republican party machine she put her political career on the line and her livelihood also. That is putting her money where her mouth is. Jobs paying that much cannot be too plentiful in Alaska. And they obviously are not a wealthy family since the First Dude works the night shift on the Northern slope pipeline. This woman is the real deal. She isn’t just about words.

What a hoot!

The “all-important libertarian swing voters”
…there’s no such thing, fella!

did you find it? just relax…calm down…

last night my husband was talking to his dad…Obama came on the tv…his dad said “OH there is the liar again…oh I can’t take a hundred more days of this lying”…hubby replied “Dad you don’t have to, there aren’t that many days left until we vote”….he said” Oh good, maybe I will get some sleep tonight.”

he is 85 years old…can’t stand it when Obama lies…

Sorry to say, but you are way off the mark.

Obama’s overall trajectory is down and McCain’s is up. What you need to look at are the trends in battleground states, not the national polls. If you recall, Hillary and Obama constantly traced the same line in the national polls, while she beat his britches in the swing states.

Independents are breaking for McCain in key states. Obama has NEVER had the demographic base to win middle America. And he won’t on Nov. 4. Just ain’t gonna happen.

Way to draw people to your Libertarian blog!

Yes, NYT, let’s all ding her because she is ‘only’ governor of a state with nothing but ‘small towns’, with a miniscule constituency, AND THEN ding her for selecting people she knew. OMG, she selected regular people who weren’t vetted elites! The ultimate sin!

I assure you, we still need to be fearful. Just because we haven’t been hit again since 9/11/01 doesn’t mean that the bastards aren’t still out there trying.

Ooo. I think I just made up a new one: Joebarry. Taking other peoples words, twisting them, cutting them, rearranging them and calling them your truth.

Here is what was said earlier today:

“I don’t think John McCain could run a major corporation. I don’t think Barack Obama could run a major corporation. I don’t think Joe Biden could run a major corporation. But on the other hand a major corporation is not the same as being the president or vice president of the United States,” Fiorina said.

Here is how Obama repeated it:

“When John McCain’s top economic adviser doesn’t think that he’s qualified to run a corporation — how on Earth can he run the largest economy in the world in the midst of a financial crisis?”

And here is what the AP is now running as fact:

Carly Fiorina, former Hewlett-Packard CEO, was asked by KTRS radio in St. Louis on Tuesday whether she thought vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin had the experience to run a big company.

“No, I don’t,” Fiorina replied. “But that’s not what she’s running for. Running a corporation is a different set of things.”

Later on MSNBC, said she said the same of the presidential nominee. “I don’t think John McCain could run a major corporation.”

I think Carly got Joebarryed.

Darn, 30yrdem – You beat me to: “LIPSTICK!”
lol!

i would vote McKinney too, EXCEPT that this only ENHANCES barkO’s chances…

make no mistake about it – barkO and ACORN will make this CLOSE…

McCain needs to do this …

He needs to say “I dont need someone who sat in a church for 20 years listening to his pastor say God Damn America over and over, lecturing me on judgement.”

And where are the rep 527′s ? I see dem 527′s on TV, but no counter attack by the republicans …

LOL Urban, my exact thoughts!

AGREED! Look at Nadar in 2000…

“All the momentum is with Obama”?

What planet are you from? On this one, the red states are turning redder and the blue states are turning purple. I’d hardly call that “momentum”.

But hey, believe what you want. It’s a free country. But don’t be too depressed when you wake up on Nov. 6th to a McCain victory.

Palin, I believe, is committed genuinely to doing right by the average American.

What do you base this on, Larry? What shred of evidence do you have to back up this statement? Most of the claims she made in her convention speech have been exposed as either distortions or flat-out lies.

Larry, you are a foreign policy expert and I CANNOT BELIEVE you could have been impressed with her performance on Thursday. It was an embarassment to any serious foreign policy thinker.

She may be a good mother and a strong, smart person. So is my mother. This is no way qualifies either of them to be VP.

awww, you poor thing.

Carly is pissed. Not just MSNBC, CSM, AP everyone is cutting her quote off at John McCain and leaving the Obama – Biden part totally out of their story.

She is not happy:

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/16/fiorina-obama-camp-deceitful-in-clipping-my-quote/

Keep in mind that basically, voting for 3rd party this year is really a vote for Obama.

The MSM is now almost 100 % for Obama. Even FOX News is starting to shift Obama. Only Sean Hannity is left in McCains corner.

Look at how she has governed. Not a single social issue. She took care of cleaning up and bringing transparency to the oil/govt cabal in Alaska. I think McCain and Palin will usher in a breath of fresh air. They are the closest thing to Bill and Hillary Clinton we have. They are interested in good government more than in promoting themselves. I think the line she gave about some politicians use change to promote themselves while others like mccain use their careers to promote change applies to her also.

bless your heart

you ARE me

roflol

O/T
Here it comes. Cafferty on CNN is blaming race for Obama not being far ahead in the polls in a democrat’s year. This is all they will harp on after Obama’s loss in November. Racism, racism, racism.

We are never going to allow a black or a woman in the white House. They will overplay the black and ake people sick of them even one not a criminal like Obama, they will attack a women until she is destroyed so that she cannot win. The problem is this year there is one on each ticket. I guess we’ll just have to leave Bush in office since they don’t want Palin and PUMAs won’t go Obama.

Let’s just cancel the election and start over in 2009.

Whoever creates the most generic fraud candidate will win!

NOT WORRY… just wait: a surprise to all, they’ll be moderates!

you are too worried about the polls…candidates always get a bump after conventions…read this and stop trusting polls

Is The “Hotline” Tracking Poll Reliable?
http://theamericansentinel.com/2008/09/16/is-the-hotline-tracking-poll-reliable/

This election is over the top corrupt and bias.

my insticts told me about GW that he was in over his head, who was being placed in power by the media/lots of money/establishment. full of platitudes (“compassionate conservative’), arrogant and with no track record of accomplishment. it’s the same feeling i have with Obama.

are you in a blue state or a red state?

I get no ads…like I said stop trusting polls
http://theamericansentinel.com/2008/09/16/is-the-hotline-tracking-poll-reliable/

About the Logans act,it seems obvious Barack Obama has violated it, is there an investigation and if not will (shouldn’t) there be one. How does this work? Larry what are the procedures ? Is BO above the law?

Yeah, no doubt. Palin: The most vetted VP in history.

And as far as honest vetting, I wouldn’t mind at all if it were the normal procedure of the media to do that to our politicians. Of course, we’re seeing irrelevancies and outright deception being advanced as ‘vetting’ in Palin’s case, while Obama is given ‘covering fire’ by the same exact individuals in the media.

ESPECIALLY if you are a swing state voter. I am in California, which is probably going to go Obama unless there’s some sort of major political earthquake. But I’m voting McCain just in case there’s an upheaval and it becomes close due to the Latino population.

We can’t let Obama win this election. If you thought the last 9 months was bad, wait until Obama is in there for FOUR YEARS.

FOUR YEARS of media duplicity, crazy cultists, lies, and BIG SPEECHES.

I shudder to think.

PLEASE VOTE MCCAIN TO KEEP OBAMA OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE!

Yeah, hand it to Barry. No politics as usual for him. He is such a massive phony, now a desperate phony.

Paul3Triple-

If you honestly believe that McCain just needs to keep the status quo, and refrain from making any personal attacks on Obama then you are dillusional.

I have no doubt that your heart is in the right place, but you desire to have McCain run a Kerry/Gore/Dukakis/Dole/Mondale type of campaign is just wrong

You seem pre-ocuppied with “mocking and ridiculing” as a campaign tactic.

Obama is in free fall. All McCain has to do is let him keep floundering away for another 48 hours. If Obama has nothing to “push back” against he has no idea what to do.

Perhaps McCain wants to lure Obama into a false sense of security.

First you need an administration that is interested in enforcing laws on the books. This Administration isn’t one of them.

Tis’ blaspheme to compare me, the great Hillary, to a no-nothing, moose-hunting, power abusing hack like Sarah Palin! A pox on all your pathetic PUMAs houses! Begone, losers!

Larry, I agree with you 100%!

In my eyes, HILLARY IS IRREPLACEABLE period.

With McCain and Palin, whether you agree with them or not, you AT LEAST know where they stand on the issues. Barack’s words and promises seem to go where ever it is the wind blows at that time!

Here is another reason why I do not trust him…

http://media.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NzQ1NGYzZTYzOTVjMmNmYzhlY2Q0NzFmNDUyOGY0ZWQ=

Tuesday, September 16, 2008

“Obama’s Assault on Free Speech: The Sequel [Guy Benson]
A few weeks ago, I offered an account of the effort by the Obama campaign to shut down an interview with Stanley Kurtz on Chicago’s WGN radio.

Well, here we go again.

Last night, WGN’s studio lines were bombarded with irate calls from Obama supporters in response to yet another interview on “Extension 720,” hosted by the venerable Milt Rosenberg. This time the offending “card-carrying member of the right-wing smear machine” was National Review’s own David Freddoso, author of The Case Against Barack Obama.

What, pray tell, are Freddoso’s transgressions? According to the Obama Action Wire email, he peddles “baseless lies,” engages in “dishonest, extreme hate mongering,” and has made a career out of “vicious partisan attacks.” The email urges supporters to call in and “confront” Freddoso before “this goes any further.” They’re also encouraged to report back the details of their phone calls through a special dedicated page on Obama’s website.

The email even boasts about the success of a previous blitz on free speech:

A couple weeks ago, we asked you to call into Rosenberg’s radio show when he hosted unapologetic smear artist Stanley Kurtz’ incoherent rantings about Barack and William Ayers.

And you responded. Rosenberg’s producer said the flood of calls and emails the show received was the biggest response ever for something like this…”

and he reiterated his position in support of “age appropriate” sex ed starting with kindergarten students in 2007 when he spoke before a Planned Parenthood convention. and his answer to a question did not link the sex ed to avoiding sex predators.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/07/sex-ed-for-kind.html

and the video of his statement:
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=3386492

the only thing this flap has proven is that not only can’t we trust the media, we also cannot trusth the so-called independent, nonpartisan fact-checkers.

Amen. Sarah Palin walks the walk. Great stuff, Larry.

New John McCain ad called ‘Enough is Enough.’ McCain talks about Wall Street, economic reform, etc. Please pass it on:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UWDb40R9oo

Also, here is a MUST-SEE video made by a 527, BornAliveTruth.org, about Obama’s heinous opposition to the Born Alive Infant Protection Act:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMwDq73gbm4

This ad exposes Obama’s support of infanticide and is crucial in the effort to defeat him in November. Please watch, favorite, link to, etc. Please make sure as many people as possible see this damning commercial.

Thanks.

Palin is a governor, who’s more qualified for Vice President than Obama is qualified to be President. She’s not only a governor; she’s got the highest approval rating as governor than any other governor in the country. She’s the Commander of the National Guard in Alaska.

Alaska is the first line of defense in our missile interceptor defense system. The 49th Misssile Defense Battalion of the Alaska National Guard is the unit that protects the entire nation from ballistic missile attacks. It’s on permanent active duty, unlike other Guard units.

As governor of Alaska, Gov. Palin is briefed on highly classified military issues, homeland security, and counterterrorism.

Palin is also the Commander in Chief [CinC] of the Alaska State Defense Force [ASDF], a federally recognized militia incorporated into the Dept. of Homeland Security’s counterterrorism plans.

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=2483

http://www.airdefenseartillery.com/online/PhotoGallery/GMD/49thMissileDefenseBattalionHome.htm

http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/agency/49md.htm

Hey larry, speaking of his flip flop on public financing, I heard one of 12 his year old girly talking “analysts” on FOX today defend that 30,000 a pop hollywood party he’s having by saying………are you ready…? She said that Obama takes money from individuals, private citizens (average $100 BS)…….and John McCain is using “taxpayer” money to run his campaign.

Can you even believe that woman wasn’t sucked down bodily into hell before her segment was over?

lets also not forget. Backtrack Barry has now advised us MAYBE we’ll agree with him 90 percent of the time.

That’s not a very promising sign.

Lets also not forget how we were being told in 2006 when Joe LIEberman was up for reElection, we were being told that Joe votes with Democrats 95 percent of the time.

Barry’s already telling us he’ll be at least 5 percent worse than Joe Lieberman.

???

Nuf said.

Yeah, saw that on Fox too. What is so pathetic however is that no one thought to point out that PRIVATIZING OUR ELECTIONS only invites more LOBBYIST INFLUENCE in our elections.

That’s Obama’s goal, apparently.

Would you believe that I just heard the Commentary on Fox and the truth was laid on Barrack Obama about FreddieMac and FannieMae being a democrat retirement home. It told about Barack receiving the second highest handout from them after being in Congress only 4 years, I think it was #126,000 while John McCain during his 20 years in Congress had only received $20,000! You go, Fox News! I hope that will go on youtube.

The links at the end of the piece don’t lead to Obama’s camp at youtube like it says..and the person has up the full video also…

I’ve found out some things about Palin that I cannot stomach. Which is not to say that this post is wrong, or that one should vote for Obama.

But she is a right wing nutjob, I’m afraid. I’d like for her to open her mouth and prove me wrong, but she’s being too quiet.

Hillary isn’t the same as Sarah. Hill is a Democrat. Sarah is clearly a Republican.

They are both women.

Sarah obviously has great talent as a politician. She’ll do just fine.

Hillary is also a great politician, with a lot more experience.

What’s annoying is that people think this is about Hill. It’s not.

I was for Hill because I thought she could deliver. She knew what it took. I think Mac has that knowledge. We’ll see. He’s up against a real hurdle now, and so far, he’s the only one talking to people.

O is doing the political thing…..yapping about whose fault it is. Meanwhile, mac is ignoring him and talking to the people about the solutions.

I think that’s why this particular Republican is worth a shot.

But she is a right wing nutjob, I’m afraid. I’d like for her to open her mouth and prove me wrong, but she’s being too quiet.

Let’s assume for the sake of argument that you are on to something. At least we know where she stands (and McCain, as well). Can anyone honestly say the same about Oblahblah?

I think this guy may be an recovering Obamabot who can’t shake the adreneline habit. I guess it’s hard when you don’t have a target for all that aggression.

Maybe he needs to take up tai chi, or another martial art.

Larry,

You nailed it! Palin is way to conservative to get my vote based on the issues. Having said that, she still might get my vote -only because the woman has conviction, character, and a dam nice smile. LOL

Barack Obama ?? that liar scares the shit outa me!

methinks one enters a parallel election 2008 universe when JM08 posts.

Gov. Palin and Sen. Clinton will both appear at protests outside the UN over Aquavelvajad’s visit to NYC. Unfortunately, they’ll appear separately.

I saw what was said to be McCain’s response to that.
http://partisanreport.com/blog/2008/09/16/mccain-responds-to-obama-over-possible-interference-with-iraqi-government-and-us-troop-withdrawl/

McCain spokesman Randy Scheunemann stated as follows (via Deadenders):

“At this point, it is not yet clear what official American negotiations Senator Obama tried to undermine with Iraqi leaders, but the possibility of such actions is unprecedented. It should be concerning to all that he reportedly urged that the democratically-elected Iraqi government listen to him rather than the US administration in power. If news reports are accurate, this is an egregious act of political interference by a presidential candidate seeking political advantage overseas. Senator Obama needs to reveal what he said to Iraq’s Foreign Minister during their closed door meeting. The charge that he sought to delay the withdrawal of Americans from Iraq raises serious questions about Senator Obama’s judgment and it demands an explanation.”

Please. Obama would appoint justices who would make Ruth Bader Ginsburg look like a Bircher. Too far right is extreme, but so is letting a senator who supported fourth trimester abortions nominate SCOTUS justices.

Those votes will get tossed in the trash. Don’t bother getting out of bed in that case.

Especially one that promises to clean up the corruption… and has a history of doing so.

30 yr dem …

I am in Ohio.

It is not only the TV stations that are against McCain, but also a vast majority of the newspapers and magazines, even Yahoo is pro -obama.

So if every newspaper and magazine that people pick up is pro obama, and if every channel, now including FOX is pro obama, and when people turn on their internet the headlines are pro obama, then mccain cant win.

This is now like communism. The media is delibaretly manipulating the news and they the way they report it to influence a election.

I mean think back to all past elections, can you ever remember a election where all the coverage was so one sided ?

Has anyone else noticed how Obama is using comments posted by readers of this blog? He’s saying that McCain doesn’t “get it”. We’ve been saying that about Obama and his elitism since the start. Obama also used a line that I personally wrote (though others have written the same thing time and again), that Obama only gives you reasons to hate his opponent and never reasons to vote FOR Obama… only Obama switched it around and says this about McCain on the stump. AND IRONICALLY STILL DOESN’T GIVE ANYONE A REASON TO VOTE FOR HIM (OBAMA)!

There are many more things like this. BOTH campaigns are reading this blog. Obama tries to turn it against us, but McCain actually listens. Heck, didn’t even Guiliani say that Biden got as many votes nationwide as Palin got in Wasilla? I saw that on here and at HotAir in the comments.

But Obama keeps trying to spin things around. He just can’t stop himself from accusing others of what he himself is guilty of.

One thing for sure, the people on this blog are having a HUGE impact on this election.

Larry, I respect your opinion, as for Governor Palin, I am voting for the Repubs for one reason, I don’t like what Mr. Soetoro represents, his dirty tactics during the primaries and I don’t like elitists, MSM baffoons telling me who I should vote for and who is best for our country.

Another four years of Repubs, is Ok with me, than I am really going to go for bat, Clinton if she chooses to run again. McCain/Palin anyday over, Soetoro/Biden.

I don’t normally speak for Larry, but this evening I will:

He bases it on the fact that you Obots are scared shitless of Palin and how she has energized the Republican base, and at the same time pulled Independent women and Hillary dems to McCain.

OK – now that’s out of the way.

I feel a name change coming on. Last week I heard Hugh Hewitt refer to Obama as a “Creature of Chicago”. I believe he meant to say the candidate was a creation of the Chicago machine, but it didn’t come out that way.

In honor of the upcoming Halloween season, I hereby change my handle to Creature of Chicago.

And bid you all a fine evening, cause it’s dinnertime for this particular garlicnose.

Wouldn’t it be great if every woman that ran for office did not have to fit into some ‘mold’ created by the media? Sarah is Sarah and Hillary is Hillary. There is not question in my mind that I would rather be voting for Hillary, but no…. Ok, then McCain/Palin will do fine. The more women that run, the less they will all be expected to be the same.

were nObambi to be elected, since he denied financing requested from reid for senate elections, is it guaranteed that nObambi would get anything through without some resistance from reid?

This is no longer a democracy in America. We dont have free elections anymore. The media gets together and decides for everyone who will win.

America is now one of the least democratic countries in the world. How fitting the media decided to pick a candidate with so many anti american ties. I guess it makes sense in a election that is so anti american.

I speak for all crazy libertarian swing voters when I say “Ick, Bob Barr”.

People flocking to him were evangelican christian republicans not happy with McCain’s relatively moderate social positions. It was driving me crazy. Thankfully Palin did solidify that base so I dont have to deal with them “at my party”.

I am an actual card carrying libertarian but sometimes I feel my pet cat could get their presidential nod.

This is not the swing demographic you were looking for. *waves hands*

and you think if you can see what is going on that others can’t? people are on to it…

Ohio is a battle ground state…there should be McCain ads there…

Respectfully, doesn’t nObama frighten you enough to pull the lever for someone who agrees with some of your beliefs and who will at least keep the country safe?

and she asks for our vote. she doesnt think shes entitled to it.

OK BIG CONFESSION HERE:

RIGHT NOW, I LIKE SARAH PALIN MORE THAN I LIKE HILLARY CLINTON

The reason is this:

I don’t believe Sarah would have sat down and shut up and toed the party line with the type of caucus fraud and shenanigans going on this year.

She would not have been campaigning on behalf of someone who used voter fraud to beat her.

She would have thrown down the gauntlet and said “enough!” and walked away from the party if need be.

Hillary has lost my respect for going out and stumping for Obama. I understand her political reasons for doing so, but to me there is a greater issue here and that is saving democracy.

Hillary has failed on that front. I still like Hillary, support Hillary, and admire Hillary. But she failed on this one big point and if push comes to shove, and Hillary ran against Palin in 2012, I can’t say for sure I’d vote for Hillary at this point. (It of course depends also on how Palin does in office.)

Just my feeling right now.

Conservatives turn on McCain/Palin Ticket:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/16/conservatives-turn-on-mcc_n_126749.html
McCain surrogate says that he and Palin can’t run a company:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/16/fiorina-palin-couldnt-do_n_126827.html
The shine is coming if PUMAs. Get ready….

we wont ever have another free election again in america. america is dead. the media now knows that it can dictate a election and get away with it. they will never stop.

Breaking the Logan Act is a felony

Section 953 of the Act reads: “Private correspondence with foreign governments. Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.”

There are others that have been suspected to breaking the Logan Act but they could claim to be on a fact finding mission. If Iraq was asked to halt or slow down US troop withdrawals to impact a US election campaign that is totally different and would appear to be in violation of the Logan Act. In any event such behavior shows a lack of character and shows a total disregard of the lives of soldiers in Iraq. They should not be put in further jeopardy or used as pawns.

Sarah is one of those people who is so talented she can stand alone in America. Her pioneer life is her credential. She honors her convictions, is very physically appealing and has had professional camera experience long ago as a sports commentator. The camera experience means she knows how to translate her personality and message directly to the audience via the TV or to a live audience. In the real pioneer days women and men shared all the duties of life. Men were also more likely to attend a sick relative. The industrial revolution brought about the modern separation of female-male duties. Sarah is a John Wayne, a Reagan, John Kennedy, Martin Luther King. Not in beliefs but in larger than life personality. She is an icon and I think will remain so. While Obama was trying to snort all the cocaine in California trying to ‘find’ himself, Sarah was trying to find her dinner in the woods of Alaska.

Don’t panic just yet. I really don’t think Obama will win. I just have a strong feeling about it. And I just “knew” McCain was going to pick Palin before it was announced…so wait until everything’s done before declaring the death of democracy.

McCain will be our next president, Palin will be our first woman president.

That is my biggest fear. Massive voter fraud, so that ALL votes cast need to be against nObama. I have voted 3rd party before, but the choices at those times did not include a DANGEROUS nObama. Did I mention that VOTE MONITORS ARE ALSO CRUCIAL this election?
Call your elections office and volunteer to monitor the vote.

Yes….you are right…Hillary did not fight for our democracy…she should of fought at the convention..instead she just handed it over to him…I am like you…I don’t see Palin doing that…I read the book Sarah…no she would have fought to the end.

Write in Hillary Clinton and help kill her chances to ever be President.

Vote for McCain now, and have a Hillary / Palin showdown in 4 years.

Vote for Hillary now and have an Obama / Palin showdown in 4 years.

Agreed. This is reminiscent of Stalins Cult of Personality. CREEPY and DANGEROUS

Even better, follow the advice of McCain’s own mother. “Hold your nose and vote for my son”.

Yeah and right after I posted that, I got an email from Bill Clinton asking me to donate to Barack Obama. Really pathetic, if you ask me.

The really scary thing is that in this case, it could be nObama trying it…

Lots of “love bombing” for Sarah Palin, I see.

Paul, do you know where the BAIPA is running?

Sarah Palin will be in NYC with McCain next week. They are attending a UN meeting to improve her foreign policy credentials and introduce her to world leaders.

And Obama initially thought that Chief Justice John Roberts was an inspired choice, and he was initially supporting Roberts, until party veterans warned him off.

Vote for Democrats down ticket to put as much of a check on McCain/Palin as possible.

JM your talking points are all legitimate but your tone seems to be trying to demoralize while sounding like a realist.

Why come here and say such negative stuff?

If you want McCain to win then find something positive you can do to make it more likely.

If you are an Obama troll, give up.

I’d hire a food taster and a couple of bodyguards.

There’s a tremendous backlash against media bias right now. Media being in the tank for Obama may now actually hurt more than it helps.

Now, Julie, honey, calm yourself. Hillary is in the Senate and Nancy’s in the House.

Fiorina is irate that her quote was manipulated, and that lady will make it known.

But thanks for stopping by, its always a pleasure!

McCain would appoint Scalia and Thomas clones?
I thought they were unique!

Now, I do remember that someone famous was chair of the committee that cleared Thomas for the job. Who was that again… Must have been a guy with a poor judgment. Picking such a man for any job would not shed a good light on your own judgment, would it?

you dont understand hillay or bust … we know the truth, but the average voter does not read no quarter … mccain will never again get another positive story on msm EVER , WITH THE EXCEPTION OF HANNITY. mccain and palin cant open their mouth, because someone in the media will just take half their sentence and completly twist it around. you have seen it happen to palin mccain and fiona in a big way in just the last 2 days. mccain/palin has no way to fight back.

What strikes me is how we can all talk here about real concerns and we all “get it”. Whereas anybody who is on the grape “kool-aid” can only recite talking points. It’s almost like the people who support Obama can’t think for themselves at all. It’s like they were some kind of an “empty vessel” that he has just filled… and that they would be nothing again without him. Since Fox is the only news I can watch anymore without being totally disgusted… I notice for example …Colmes. You can see it… when a guest is talking he is frantically flipping through his “points” trying to find the one which is “authorized” and that halfway fits. The ex Governor of Alaska was on Fox last night… and before he was done… he too was reciting the “points”. O.K… reasonable people can disagree about things… but I have never seen a group of “followers” so eagerly give up control of their mental faculties.

The fact that your sources are both from Huff’n'Puff makes your post irrelevant.
Go do your homework.

Take a look at these newspaper reports put into a video presentation. Right wing nut, I think not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt6VzuseI30

HC said this earlier:

JM your talking points are all legitimate but your tone seems to be trying to demoralize while sounding like a realist.

Why come here and say such negative stuff?

If you want McCain to win then find something positive you can do to make it more likely.

If you are an Obama troll, give up.

I agree, Ferd. It doesn’t make Obama a better candidate. But I’m not voting for a team if it seems too far right to me. I’d rather vote green or write Hillary in — which, in CA, isn’t going to make a lick of difference anyway.

Wasn’t that the story about the man, the woman, the curly hair… and the coke bottle? That was him… wasn’t it? I had forgot that one to tell the truth.

Where are you from? Do you understand what the flyover states are really like? I grew up in the midwest. These people are not going to vote for a superliberal just because the media puts him up on a pedestal.

Larry,

I agree wholeheartedly with you. Gov Palin had to have some nerve to go against the Republican corrupt interests in Alaska and the people thanked her for it b/c she decided to put the people first, not self-interest.

She is a breathe of fresh air. Clinton knows how to work to make things for people work.

I’ll take her over Barack America, Joe Biden any day if you ask me.

PUMA 2008!

I’ve never in my long life seen anything like this and it is dangerous to democracy.

“NEWS is that which comes from the North, East, West and South, and if it comes from only one
point of the compass, then it is a class publication and not news.” Benjamin Disraeli, British prime minister, [1804-1881]

If you are sincere in your concerns, get off the computer and go volunteer for the McCain campaign. Go participate in democracy and help make it happen. Don’t just sit here and whine.

I bet you all applauded Kerry for not fighting back against the swiftboaters as well …

People in here are not willing to fight …

Well, Obama, at least.

JM08, i see that your posts are always “doom and gloom” for McCain because he’s not aggressive enough. What is it that you want us to do about it? Agree with you? I signed myself and 3 friends to do phone banks for McCain and Palin, what exactly are you doing for McCain to ensure a win?

Hillary or bust …

Actually I plan to leave the country after Obama wins. I dont want to live in a communistic country with state controlled media.

FACTA NON VERBA,Larry, FACTA NON VERBA!

JM08 your talking points are all legitimate but your tone seems to be trying to demoralize while sounding like a realist.

Why come here and say such negative stuff?

If you want McCain to win then find something positive you can do to make it more likely.

If you are an Obama troll, give

Clinton is a Senator. How can she be Speaker of the House?

I got one of those today too. I replied with a long comment as to why I could not donate and who I will be voting for and why.

What’s up, Chicken Little?

Not true…

Well it depends on who you vote for. A vote for Nader or McKinney is most likely a vote that would or could have been for a democrat…so it took away a vote from Obama.

If it’s a vote for Barr, then it’s most likely a vote that would have or could have been for a republican, so that would be taking a vote from McCain.

I’m sick of people saying it’s a waste to write Hillary in or vote 3rd party. It’s never a waste to stand up for what you believe in. And when you don’t believe strongly in either of the main two candidates, then you can give your vote to a 3rd party candidate to show your dislike for who the two main parties elected.

Sara Palin is refreshing. I live in what has been called a blue state and I can tell you that many who use to support the selected one are tired of him and his lack of character and tired of the Democrats and their sham primaries and convention.
They, like many in other states, now support McCain/Palin. They support Palin who is real and to whom they can relate.

Democrats, who have controlled Congress for the past two years, have done nothing. They also voted for the funds for the Iraq War and for the Patriot Act. If this country is in a mess they are just as responsible for it as anyone else.

Please remember that Sarah Palin sold the Governor’s jet; Nancy Pelosi demanded and got a 757 to fly back and forth from Washington DC to San Francisco CA. She did not want the smaller jet because she would have had to stop to refuel it.

Are you kidding? This site has done more to find the truth about Obama than any other entity. Everyone here would like nothing more than for the truth to be told to the entire voting public.
We are all expecting McCain to fight back.
Obama deserves to be held accountable for his actions.

They aren’t going to fall for the “Emperors New Suit” bit either. If you don’t vote for Obama… you are a racist, too stupid to know you are a racist, low educated, or too stupid to realize an “educated” man when you see him. In a nut shell… that is what this is about. The glass is half empty… fear, doubt and uncertainty = Obama… versus… the glass is half full… hope, pride and optimism = McCain. Funny thing is our glass is still got the same amount in it. Whatever Obama’s ultimate intentions… McCain has what we need from a leader.

Obama is not “liberal.” He is not Leftist.

He is Fascist, which by definition means government by and for the corporations.

Obama is backed by corporate/Wall Street interests and the corporate media. I challenge you to name me one (1) Liberal corporation–at least one that owns media.

And the corporate media most in the tank for Obama? Why that would be NBC of course, whose parent company is General Electric.

Folks, they don’t just make light bulbs any more. They’re one of the biggest defense contractors on the planet.

As someone pointed out on this blog recently, there have been three (3) candidates in that last 25 years who’ve been fluffed by the MSM:

1. Ronald Reagan

2. George W. Bush

3. Barack Obama

If that doesn’t set off major alarm bells in your cabeza then said cabeza is too empty for any use.

So look for the orange and listen for the cat whistles. Whatever you do, do NOT vote for this wingnut Trojan horse candidate who’s been foisted on us by the same PTB who backed Gee Dubya and his wars.

Do not. Do not. Do not.

Please.

That’s a great point, McHope.

Is anyone talking about Biden’s relationship with RIAA and the MPAA?

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10024163-38.html

Once the younger people supporting Obama realize that their choice for second is the guy who killed Napster and is trying to kill torrents and is against the private use of encryption I wonder if they’ll rebel.

I am not saying it is a waste or wrong to vote 3rd party, that was my original plan – it’s just that I think Obama is so dangerous that I really hope to persuade any undecideds here to vote AGAINST him by voting for McCain. Any extra vote for McCain makes it that much harder for Obama to win.

I understand your feeling JM. Sometimes fighting that uphill battle is so hard to do. But, just keep putting that one foot in front of the other and do what you can do.

What’s that poem? When things go wrong as they sometimes will, When the road you’re trudging seems all uphill … rest if you must, but don’t you quit.
`Don’t Quit by an unknown author

None of us want that… that is what this is all about. Throughout all of history… great civilizations aren’t destroyed from the outside… they are destroyed from within. Like McCain said… “fight with me”. I don’t think the words were lost on him… or that he came upon them by accident.

LJ:

I take it that your friend was HRC supporter. But what is he talking about when he writes:

There’s plenty of substance to criticize her for, and some of it might even rise to impeachable levels.

Troopergate?? If so he must be joking… Or is there anything else??

I don’t think HRC and Palin are comparable. I don’t think Palin lacks substance nor that it is HRC lite.
But although I have a lot of respect for Palin, Hillary Clinton is miles away. Let me explain; I am okay with Palin as VP but for Hilalry I expect no less than Madame President.

LJ:

I take it that your friend was HRC supporter. But what is he talking about when he writes:

There’s plenty of substance to criticize her for, and some of it might even rise to impeachable levels.

Troopergate?? If so he must be joking… Or is there anything else??

I don’t think HRC and Palin are comparable. I don’t think Palin lacks substance nor that it is HRC lite.
But although I have a lot of respect for Palin, Hillary Clinton is miles away. Let me explain; I am okay with Palin as VP but for Hillary I expect no less than Madame President.

Obama won’t win. When push comes to shove in that voting booth, most Americans are going to vote for the war hero. It has nothing to do with race. It has everything to do with McCain’s ability to transcend the media pettiness based on his very strong, powerful sense of purpose and peace with himself.

JJ –
Good point.

Kerry was flawed for other reasons, man.

Bottom line, I don’t trust Obama any further than I could throw him.

McCain and Palin I disagree with on a few things, but LOVE her reform work and no-nonsense governing style in AK. I would trust that pair to try to do what’s best for the country (even if some of their ideas are bad.)

Obama I would not trust to do ANYTHING from a clear unselfish motive. I do not believe he loves this country at all, only himself.

ALERT: somebody, anybody, call Smilin Jim a WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAmbulance!

BTW, LJ, I agree 100% with your perception of Palin !!

Correct!

Am I the only one that noticed that the Economy suddenly took front and center?

Wasn’t it the general school of thought that if there was a terrorist attack, the edge would go to McCain. If the economy tanked the edge would go then to 0bama.

Maybe there was some manipulation to expedite the fall of Lehman Brothers.

Just sayin…..

My 92 year old mother is a Hillary supporter…..but after Obama took over, my mother said and I quote,’I wonder if McCain has room for one more’? You go MAMA!

This is no lie. I have people who will vouch for me. In election 2000, I came into work the next morning and told my coworkers, “well, I hope people are happy electing Bush! Now we are going to have nothing but trouble with Iraq!”

That was what my instincts told me. Was I exactly right? No. I thought Saddam was gonna mess with Bush to bring us in there again. well, the circumstances of why we’re in there are slightly different. I did not predict 9/11, but I wasn’t too far off the mark either!

I’m referred to as a political geek!

Hugs, Sweetie, I know it hurts. Bill emailed ME to donate $250 for an autographed DVD of their convention speeches. Sorry, big dawg, no can do.

Palin IS light. She does not have 35 years of working in the trenches. She may have taken a different career path than Hillary and she may have qualities that would be good in a President, but there is no comparison to Hillary. I will vote McCain as a protest, but you can never convince me that Palin is Hillary’s equal. Hillary researches her issues and goes to the best for help. She knows her subject matter, she knows how to work and compromise. Palin may or may not take that road, but sorry Hillary is the big dog and come 2012 if Palin is running against Hillary it will be Hillary all the way for me.

I’m sorry but Palin is no Hillary Clinton, that doesn’t mean I won’t vote for her but to compare the two is ridiculous. My vote will be a protest vote and that’s it, no more, no less. I am still a Democrat and don’t have any desire to vote for another Republican. I do not align myself with Republicans. What has happened to this blog? Has everyone forgotten why we came together in the first place? I thought we were Democrats being critical of our own party, not adopting everything about the Republican party.

“a legitimate Christian women”

No one said she was a bastard, only that she is a stubborn, secretive, fundamentalist Pentecostal.

Obama is not a Muslim, questionably a Christian but certainly a charlatan.

I will place my trust in a charlatan before I trust my life to a Christian fundamentalist any day. The charlatans at least can tell reality from fantasy.

Eight years of Bush have taught you nothing.

Love the capitals, by the way.

There was an article a while back about how Obama wouldn’t pass the vetting process for VP and it was true. so why can he be POTUS without a vetting?

If I find the article again I’ll post it!

Troll Alert!!!

Like we would ever click on Huf and Puff!

You haven’t been here in a while have you?

Go back!

“WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAmbulance”

Yet another budding linguist.

Carry on sophisticate.

If your state gives a Hillary write-in to 0bama, then it is a vote for him. Check the laws in your state.

I’m at the point where my ideology is on a back burner until 2012. I believe we must defeat this prick resoundly or else he will come back to haunt us in 2012.

I appreciate everyone’s code of ethics, but I feel this is war. And war is hell.

The only way to get our ideology in play is to defeat this man. I also think if we really kick his butt, he’ll resign from the Senate.

If that means voting for McCain, it’s worth it!

love that!

It’s hard to maintain credibility when you lie as much McCain and Palin do. Don’t blame the MSM for doing their jobs. The stuff you guys have constantly accused Obama of is made up internet, generated crap. The MSM should not waste the American people’s time chasing those ghosts. The old coot and the beauty/earmark queen can’t seem to get out of their own way. BTW, McCain’s average in the latest RCP poll is 1.3%. So much for the post-convention bounce.

I love your Mom!

I live in a black community. I’ve started mentioning to people to reflect on New Orleans, post-Katrina. It still hasn’t been rebuilt. A lot of it has to do with the fact that there is NO MONEY!

So I’m cautioning anyone who listens to think twice about tearing down their community over this fraud Barack 0bama.

The Federal government may simply not have the money to rebuild it. And all the cries of racism simply won’t change the math.

Obama ‘fundamentally’ implies he is some sort of a messiah and so do many of his followers. Religion offends you , but that does not.
Are you looking for a President to run the country or an agent of ‘change’ to heal the planet, by stealing every penny and every ounce of security from the American people?
Based on your writing skills, I find it hard to believe you could fall for such nonsense, and do so to the degree you will insult his opponents with such vileness and untruth.
Apply any standard you have to Palin directly to Obama, I am certain you will not like an honest assessment of what you find.

Do you have a crystal ball or tarot cards or what? How do you know all this?

Fill in the blanks:

Sarah has conviction Obama _____________.
Sara is a typical middle class american, Obama _____.
Sarah’s character is authentic, Obama’s character ___.

Sarah had the courage to take on the powerful in the Republican party, Obama has ________ in the Democratic party.

The Problem of Free Will!

That the MSM and all other forms of communication to the populace are simply pro-Obama should mean that those who REALIZE what is happening, should simply take the other position, the other tack, and vote in OPPOSITION to the BHObama pro-obama predilection of the MSM and public communications.

No one has a gun to their heads when they go to vote…(at least let’s not hope so..)

As I myself think it…no amount of screaming from the MSM and other internet oprograms and cable programs that are pro-obama, are going to change my perception of what I WANT.

However, granted, not everyone thinks alike, and many there are who are simply blown away emotionally and go with the last thought that went through their heads…

People should vote their conscience and not allow themselves to bullied by Republicans or Democrats who are trying to scare them by evoking an Obama or McCain presidency. Voting for a third party cadnidate in force lets the mainstream parties know that their policies and practises do not cut the mustard. They will adapt because they will need to if they want the votes to get elected. The evidence for this position is manifest in democracies and republics around the world.

As much as I admired and valued Hillary’s knowledge and command of the issues facing this country, she is not running. She gave up and offered her support, as a democrat, to the one her party pushed on us.

It happened. I’m still trying to deal with how it happened. The injustice and insanity of it all! It’s as if the Democratic Party decided to throw the country away and give it to someone who hates all of us.

I got a solicitation for money from Bill. Not sure where the money’s going:

Dear Supporter,

If any of you are watching the latest Republican tactics and seeing the latest attacks from John McCain and Sarah Palin, you know to win in November and reverse the mistakes and misplaced priorities of the last eight years it’s going to take all of us working together. The stakes couldn’t be any higher.

If you saw our convention in Denver, I’m sure you know that Democrats are 100 percent ready to go to work to win big!

That has a lot to do with Hillary. I couldn’t have been more proud of the speech she gave in Denver. She made it clear why, if you supported her candidacy, you should also support Barack Obama.

Her historic speech inspired me and millions of others, and it was a great reminder of how important it is that we also continue to support Hillary’s efforts to speak out on behalf of ordinary Americans. There’s no better way to show her your continuing support right now than by making a contribution today. And if you contribute $50 or more, you’ll get a DVD with her historic speech in Denver and the inspiring video that introduced her. It’ll include a message that Hillary recorded just for you, where she shares some special moments from her week in Denver. And we’ll put my speech on there for you, too. For a limited time only if you contribute $250 or more you will receive the special “Signature” edition personally signed by Hillary.

Contribute today, and you’ll receive a DVD copy of Hillary’s and my convention speeches.

After an 18-month primary campaign, Democrats are coming together with one purpose: to elect Barack Obama. After eight years of George W. Bush, America is hungry for real change.

It’s the kind of change that someone like John McCain — who has voted with George W. Bush 90 percent of the time — just can’t bring. Hillary and I are going to do everything we can to help make Barack Obama president, and we are going to keep fighting for our values, just as we have all along.

Help Hillary continue to make history. Donate $50 today, and you’ll get a DVD of her historic convention speech — and mine, too!

If you give $250 or more you will get a special edition signed by Hillary!

This is going to be a great year for Democrats and for America. I hope you’re as excited about it as I am.

Thank you for everything,
Bill Clinton

Won’t send money. Won’t ever support BO. We’ll see in 2012.

SusanUnPC please make mimi one of your regular contributers. I always search for and read her well-reasoned, insightful comments.

yeh, too bad Fiorina is spitting mad at the moment stating that O-soetoro took only one fraction of what she said and leaving out the fact that she thinks Barry and Biden are unqualified too. We read the news to seek for the truth, not just talking points.

I heard the comments from Fiorina on PBS and she also said that Obama and Biden were unqualified to run a corporation.

I don,t think that a financial advisor saying you can,t run a corporation is nearly as bad as your own VP saying you aren’t qualified to run for president.

Care to comment Obama?

Yeah, I got the same email from the Big Dawg…as much as I love him and Hillary, it’s a no money from me.

I’m voting for McCain/Palin on Nov 4th.

Down here in GA (the one in the USA), suddenly in the last few days there are McCain/Palin signs popping up everywhere on people’s lawns. Don’t see too many BO signs in my neighborhood.

I wrote this back to my Mom in late June,after she told me an article I sent her from NQ was filled with hate-mongering…this was before I really knew about John McCain and way before I knew about Sarah Palin.

“This particular article may be considered hate-mongering, but my feelings towards Sen. Obama and having him for president do not amount to hate. They amount to
feelings of despair and terror, as he is not what some of America thinks he is. Regardless of his party or race. He has already stated he will increase the capital gains tax, which after all that we have been through is all that some of us have left. That is the least of it. He has already reversed his position on Iraq and said so directly to the Iraqi government. In fact, their response after his conversation with them last week, was that his position is no different than John McCain’s. At this point, we are already there, we have already destroyed the infrastructure of the country and millions of innocent people have been killed or maimed. Leaving now is of no use, except to allow the Iranians and Palestenians the opportunity to ravage the spoils and say “I told you so, look what the Americans did to you, again (much like we supported the Kuwaiti’s and then abandoned them, which is what started this whole thing in the first place.) He says one thing to pander to one group and then does another. Except I think it is even more serious than pandering. You do not associate yourself with the likes of Rev. Wright, Louis Farrakan, or Bill Ayers, on a long term basis and not be aware of the despicable things they have said and done. I can take God Damn America, but visits to Omar Khadafi, saying the Holocaust was in the imagination of the Jews, bombing the NY City PD without expressing any remorse is scary. He is scary Mom and I would much rather keep the taxes that I have now and get out of Iraq in a careful and sensitive manner, than give my vote to this unknown character with a shady past. It is not that I am so attached to Hillary Clinton as much as I was attached to a person who regardless of whether I agreed with her or not, was always very clear about where she stood.
I do not believe that this man is in any way qualified to be the President, he is nothing more than a marketing phenomenon created by very, very well financed backers and I do not think they are from the US. I love you too, but my gut tells me that something is terribly, terribly wrong with this man and his ambition. As far as supporting a Democratic agenda, I am not sure of what that is anymore, except that our taxes are going to increase across the board. He said so himself, many times. You see, his vision for America is wealth re-distribution and although I am all for helping the poor and everyone getting their fair share, I am not so inclined as he is to buy into his friends Socialist/Marxist way of thinking.

I am also not sure what the energy policy is anymore considering HE voted for Dick Cheney’s energy bill while McCain and HRC did not, so I do not know what he wants. However, I do know what he doesn’t want. No gas tax relief (yes, it would only save the average users a few bucks this summer, but it would save a bundle for farmers, truckers, cab driver’s, etc.). . All those people producing and distributing those products will pass their increased costs onto us. We won’t be able to buy a loaf of bread or a gallon of milk this winter for under $10.00.

No drilling. No opening up the reserves. What are people going to do to get through this winter and the next if we do not do something now? We need some relief until new energy sources can be explored and vehicles can be made more energy efficient.
I am still not sure exactly what the Healthcare proposal is now. Are we going to try to cover everyone or not? John McCain plans to give a $4000.00 tax credit. I can live with that.

They won’t be privatizing Social Security as even a Republican majority Congress and a Republican president couldn’t get that done.
I in no way support anything that GW or his cronies have done in the past, but I do not believe that John McCain is GW. I do believe though, as surely as I knew the night GW won the election in 2000 that we were going to war, that electing Barack Obama as president is a death wish.”

The night GW stole the election in 2000, I walked up the stairs, kissed my sleeping children and muttered to myself, “We’re going to war, God help us all.”

Follow your gut!

I agree….this is probably a form letter that was requested that Bill and Hillary put out with their names, simply to collect money for Obama.

I would never send any money to the DNC.

I gave to the Clinton campaign when she was still a candidate and viable, but not a penny does to the DNC and the Obama campaign for the GE.

All of it now goes, whatever I can contribute, to the ASPCA and my local SPCA chapters.

THINK OF THE PETS THAT ARE NEGLECTED!

The Palin hysteria is reaching a crescendo. I am being bombarded by emails and (carefully edited) emails proving that she is the devil incarnate. I am really shocked and disturbed by these so-called “open minded liberals.” Turns out they are only for choice if it looks exactly like their idea of motherhood, femininity and career. And don’t bother giving them facts–they’re not interested. That would interfere with the demonization of this woman. When I mention that we hated the exact same thing when it was/is done to Hillary, they don’t see it. Prejudice comes in many forms.

Yep..my 86 year old mom is a dyed-in-the-wool party of FDR Democrat, yet she fears for our country. She’s already gotten her absentee ballot and is casting it for McCain/Palin.

The nail in BO’s coffin for her is his refusal to sign protection for babies who survive an abortion.

This race is too close not to make your vote count. Oblama is a very dangerous man and we stand to lose a lot. Who knows if we’ll ever be the same with an Oblama presidency. They are trying to get rid of the old honest people in congress so they (Pelosi) can do her corrupt practices and not have to be for ‘the people’. It’s beyond our wildest imagination what an Oblama dictorship would be. In this election, if we don’t make our vote count then we stand a chance at having an Oblahma/Pelosi dictorship. Sounds wierd but who would have guessed last year what would have happened in the primaries and the Convention?.

Now Food Network is joining the MSM adulation of THEONE. Paula Deen is having MO on Sept. 20th and in the previews is absolutely drooling all over her and any mention of THE ONE.

No they don’t get tossed in the trash. Any write-in candidate’s vote gets counted and reported along with the votes the primary parties get.

I found those same stories on politico.com as well. Now what?

That is so very true. Write in Hillary’s name and that vote will be in essence a vote for Obama.

he peddles “baseless lies,” engages in “dishonest, extreme hate mongering,” and has made a career out of “vicious partisan attacks.”

Hey this guy has the makings of a Democratic Presidential candidate.

I recommend everyone scurry over to the Oblog and help them along with a few choice suggestions– like featuring Chevy Chase prominently in a commerical suggesting Tina Few ridicule Palin more. That should really fire up the Obase. See Anglachel for more.
http://anglachelg.blogspot.com/2008/09/thats-our-joe.html

JM08, have you not seen the pigstick ad mac ran or the sex-ed for kidergarten ad? I mean the idea that mac is not running a tough campaign is just plain dumb. Obama has been on defense since his convention.
Also, again mac baited him. The las 2 days all obama has done is blame John McCain for everything happening in our market. Does that make any sense? No.
You seem to think that because the media likes obama and not mccain Obama is destined. Ummm, no.
A campaign is not won by running negative ads the whole GE. It is a strategy. A plan. also, i am not sure it is the mccain campaign that needs to be running rev. wright ads.
You fail to see what is happening.Also, mccain is ahead in gallup and rasmussen so i don’t know where you got obama up in all the polls.
Now that obama has taken the gloves off it is only a day or 2 until his ego makes him say something horribly wrong. THEY WANTED TO DRAG OBAMA IN THE MUD JM08. I TOLD YOU THIS YESTERDAY. Obama is not a”new kind of politician”
And really he is not on message. His message is the same. Mccain is bush it is all their fault the sky is falling i am the one. It is not just about who runs the most negative ad, there is a reason dems always lose. THEY USE THE SAME PLANS dems have said for years. If poeple shut kerry down, shut dukakis down, Obama will be shut down. It is all the same rhetoric. repubs are vicious smear merchants and we will not lose on these small things. ALL THE SAME SHIT THAT LOSES EVERY 4 years

ARE YOU ANGRY? FEEL FRUSTRATED? HOPELESS? FEEL RAGE EVERY TIME obama LIES, ATTACKS GOVERNOR PALIN (and women in general). ARE YOU FURIOUS WITH THE WAY THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA REFUSES TO REPORT THE TRUTH ABOUT obama? BUT WILL MAKE UP LIES AND ATTACK THE WOMEN IN THIS CAMPAIGN? IF YOU FEEL ANY OF THE ABOVE….Please join me in voting for McCain/Palin.

The ONLY way we can make sure that obama loses is if ALL PUMAS vote for the McCain/Palin ticket, whether or not you like John McCain. An added plus would be to vote Republican straight down the line and REALLY PUNISH the CORRUPT dems, they all need to be FIRED!

Please don’t stay home. Please don’t write in Hillarys name because that will be a vote for obama. This isn’t about Hillary anymore. This is about OUR COUNTRY. This is about OUR SAFETY.

PUMA is a HUGE and POWERFUL FORCE. We can control the outcome of this election. Let’s all get on the same page. If you all are REALLY committed to making obama lose, LET’S DO IT! WE HAVE THE POWER!

Vote McCain/Palin.

I like that suggestion. I hope Pelosi loses her seat. She is one dangerous DemocRAT.

There’s plenty of substance to criticize her for, and some of it might even rise to impeachable levels.This sounds like a typical made up statment by an obot alright. Why do people who have no clue, try and send Pro-Oblama emails to friends who do have a clue?
And besides, as the poster above says, let’s not compare. It’s not good to compare people to one another. There is no two alike. Palin brings lots to the table and so does McCain. I’m just grateful that for this only choice we have, that it’s really good.
Furthermore, there is nothing remotely close that could impeach our public servant Governor Sarah Palin. She is as honest and courageous as one could hope to be. I find her to be a perfect match for McCain. I’m too scared of an Oblama presidency to sit this out or vote 3rd party. That’s what Donna Brazillenut wants us to do so Oblama can win.

And do you remember how the press and the “in crowd” in Washington villified Harry Truman? They called him a small town hick haberdasher who had no business being VP.

Harry Truman was the first candidate that I ever voted for. At that time you had to be 21yrs old to vote. I was already active in Politicking due to the influence of my father. He would take me with him when he went door knocking and passing out pamphlets. At the time, I remember him telling people that Truman was a true American – served in the army, just like my father (WW1) and was an honest, down to earth person who you could trust. He said although Truman had an altogether different background than FDR, they both cared about the average citizen and if the need arose, he would fill the president’s shoes just fine – and he did jusst that. In my opinion he surpassed Roosevelt and that was an almost impossible task.

So you can see I have worked and voted in a lot of election cycles. I have never seen one quite as hate filled as this one. Sarah Palin is getting the full treatment – even worse than Truman did and it’s mainly because they are afraid of her. It’s been so long since we’ve had a candidate that I could be enthused about that I am so very excited about this election now that she is in the mix.

I can’t go door knocking anymore but I can man the phone banks and blog the internet in favor of McCain/Palin and that’s just what I have been doing ever since Hillary suspended her campaign.

The more the DNC and Obama’s camp trash her, the more I love her.

oops. the quote goofed on me.

There’s plenty of substance to criticize her for, and some of it might even rise to impeachable levels

Should I feel proud? I’m getting nasty emails from both McCain and Obama supporters. Sometimes being a moderate really sucks.

I just removed myself from their mailing list over that email.

I agree that Gov. Palin will work for the good of the American people…unlike the Democratic nominee, who appears to focus on insulting us!
We have had too many elections based on the three Ps…Party, Personality, and Pride!
It’s time for Policy to be front and center, and a McCain/ Palin ticket can deliver!

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1 AN ACT concerning education.

2 Be it enacted by the People of the State of Illinois,
3 represented in the General Assembly:

4 Section 5. The School Code is amended by changing
5 Sections 27-9.1 and 27-9.2 as follows:

6 (105 ILCS 5/27-9.1) (from Ch. 122, par. 27-9.1)
7 Sec. 27-9.1. Sex Education.
8 (a) No pupil shall be required to take or participate in
9 any class or course in comprehensive sex education if the
10 pupil’s his parent or guardian submits written objection
11 thereto, and refusal to take or participate in such course or
12 program shall not be reason for suspension or expulsion of
13 such pupil. Each class or course in comprehensive sex
14 education offered in any of grades K 6 through 12 shall
15 include instruction on the prevention of sexually transmitted
16 infections, including the prevention, transmission and spread
17 of HIV AIDS. Nothing in this Section prohibits instruction in
18 sanitation, hygiene or traditional courses in biology.
19 (b) All public elementary, junior high, and senior high
20 school classes that teach sex education and discuss sexual
21 activity or behavior intercourse shall emphasize that
22 abstinence is an effective method of preventing unintended is
23 the expected norm in that abstinence from sexual intercourse
24 is the only protection that is 100% effective against
25 unwanted teenage pregnancy, sexually transmitted diseases,
26 and HIV acquired immune deficiency syndrome (AIDS) when
27 transmitted sexually.
28 (c) In this subsection (c):
29 “Factual information” includes without limitation
30 medical, psychiatric, psychological, empirical, and
31 statistical statements.

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1 “Medically accurate” means verified or supported by
2 research conducted in compliance with scientific methods,
3 published in peer-review journals, where appropriate, and
4 recognized as accurate and objective by professional
5 organizations and agencies with expertise in the relevant
6 field.
7 All sex education courses that discuss sexual activity or
8 behavior intercourse shall satisfy the following criteria:
9 (1) Factual information presented in course
10 material and instruction shall be medically accurate and
11 objective.
12 (2) All (1) course material and instruction shall
13 be age and developmentally appropriate.
14 (3) Course material and instruction shall include a
15 discussion of sexual abstinence as a method to prevent
16 unintended pregnancy and sexually transmitted infections,
17 including HIV.
18 (4) Course material and instruction shall present
19 the latest medically factual information regarding both
20 the possible side effects and health benefits of all
21 forms of contraception, including the success and failure
22 rates for the prevention of pregnancy and sexually
23 transmitted infections, including HIV.
24 (5) Course material and instruction shall include a
25 discussion of the possible consequences of unintended
26 pregnancy and sexually transmitted infections, including
27 HIV.
28 (2) Course material and instruction shall teach
29 honor and respect for monogamous heterosexual marriage.
30 (3) Course material and instruction shall stress
31 that pupils should abstain from sexual intercourse until
32 they are ready for marriage.
33 (4) Course material and instruction shall include a
34 discussion of the possible emotional and psychological

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1 consequences of preadolescent and adolescent sexual
2 intercourse outside of marriage and the consequences of
3 unwanted adolescent pregnancy.
4 (6) (5) Course material and instruction shall
5 stress that sexually transmitted infections diseases are
6 serious possible hazards of sexual activity or behavior
7 intercourse. Pupils shall be provided with statistics
8 based on the latest medical information citing the
9 failure and success rates of all contraceptive methods
10 condoms in preventing unintended pregnancies and HIV AIDS
11 and other sexually transmitted infections diseases.
12 (7) (6) Course material and instruction shall
13 advise pupils of the laws pertaining to their financial
14 responsibility to children born in and out of wedlock.
15 (8) (7) Course material and instruction shall
16 advise pupils that it is unlawful for males or females of
17 any age to engage in sexual conduct or have sexual
18 relations with a minor as specified in of the
19 circumstances under which it is unlawful for males to
20 have sexual relations with females under the age of 18 to
21 whom they are not married pursuant to Article 12 of the
22 Criminal Code of 1961, as now or hereafter amended.
23 (9) Course material and instruction shall discuss
24 and provide for the development of positive communication
25 skills to maintain healthy relationships and avoid
26 unwanted sexual activity.
27 (10) Course material and instruction shall
28 emphasize that the pupil has the power to control
29 personal behavior. Pupils shall be encouraged to base
30 their actions on reasoning, self-discipline, sense of
31 responsibility, self-control, and ethical considerations,
32 such as respect for oneself and others.
33 (11) (8) Course material and instruction shall
34 teach pupils to not make unwanted physical and verbal

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1 sexual advances and how to say no to unwanted sexual
2 advances and shall include information about verbal,
3 physical, and visual sexual harassment, including without
4 limitation nonconsensual sexual advances, nonconsensual
5 physical sexual contact, and rape by an acquaintance. The
6 course material and instruction shall contain methods of
7 preventing sexual assault by an acquaintance, including
8 exercising good judgment and avoiding behavior that
9 impairs one’s judgment. The course material and
10 instruction shall emphasize personal accountability and
11 respect for others and Pupils shall be taught that it is
12 wrong to take advantage of or to exploit another person.
13 The material and instruction shall also encourage youth
14 to resist negative peer pressure. The course material and
15 instruction shall inform pupils of the potential legal
16 consequences of sexual assault by an acquaintance.
17 Specifically, pupils shall be advised that it is unlawful
18 to touch an intimate part of another person as specified
19 in the Criminal Code of 1961.
20 (12) Course material and instruction shall teach
21 male pupils about male accountability for sexual violence
22 and shall teach female students about reducing
23 vulnerability for sexual violence.
24 (13) Course material and instruction shall teach
25 pupils about counseling, medical, and legal resources
26 available to survivors of sexual abuse and sexual
27 assault, including resources for escaping violent
28 relationships.
29 (14) Course material and instruction shall teach
30 pupils that it is wrong to take advantage of or to
31 exploit another person.
32 (15) Course material and instruction shall be free
33 of racial, ethnic, gender, religious, or sexual
34 orientation biases.

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1 (d) An opportunity shall be afforded to parents or
2 guardians to examine the instructional materials to be used
3 in such class or course.
4 (Source: P.A. 86-941.)

5 (105 ILCS 5/27-9.2) (from Ch. 122, par. 27-9.2)
6 Sec. 27-9.2. Family Life.
7 (a) If any school district provides courses of
8 instruction designed to promote wholesome and comprehensive
9 understanding of the emotional, psychological, physiological,
10 hygienic and social responsibility aspects of family life,
11 then such courses of instruction shall include the teaching
12 of prevention of unintended pregnancy and all options related
13 to unintended pregnancy, as the alternatives to abortion,
14 appropriate to the various grade levels; and whenever such
15 courses of instruction are provided in any of grades K 6
16 through 12, then such courses also shall include age
17 appropriate instruction on the prevention of sexually
18 transmitted infections, including the prevention,
19 transmission and spread of HIV AIDS. However, no pupil shall
20 be required to take or participate in any family life class
21 or course on HIV AIDS instruction if his parent or guardian
22 submits written objection thereto, and refusal to take or
23 participate in such course or program shall not be reason for
24 suspension or expulsion of such pupil.
25 (b) In this subsection (b):
26 “Factual information” includes without limitation
27 medical, psychiatric, psychological, empirical, and
28 statistical statements.
29 “Medically accurate” means verified or supported by
30 research conducted in compliance with scientific methods,
31 published in peer-review journals, where appropriate, and
32 recognized as accurate and objective by professional
33 organizations and agencies with expertise in the relevant

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1 field.
2 All family life courses of instruction shall satisfy the
3 following criteria:
4 (1) Factual information presented in course
5 material and instruction shall be medically accurate and
6 objective.
7 (2) All course material and instruction in classes
8 that teach sex education and discuss sexual activity or
9 behavior shall be age and developmentally appropriate.
10 (3) Course material and instruction shall include a
11 discussion of sexual abstinence as a method to prevent
12 unintended pregnancy and sexually transmitted infections,
13 including HIV.
14 (4) Course material and instruction shall present
15 the latest medically factual information regarding both
16 the possible side effects and health benefits of all
17 forms of contraception, including the success and failure
18 rates for the prevention of pregnancy and sexually
19 transmitted infections, including HIV.
20 (5) Course material and instruction shall stress
21 that sexually transmitted infections are serious possible
22 hazards of sexual activity or behavior. Pupils shall be
23 provided with statistics based on the latest medical
24 information citing the failure and success rates of all
25 contraceptive methods in preventing unintended pregnancy
26 and HIV and other sexually transmitted infections.
27 (6) Course material and instruction shall advise
28 pupils that it is unlawful for males or females of any
29 age to engage in sexual conduct or have sexual relations
30 with a minor as specified in Article 12 of the Criminal
31 Code of 1961.
32 (7) Course material and instruction shall discuss
33 and provide for the development of positive communication
34 skills to maintain healthy relationships and avoid

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1 unwanted sexual activity.
2 (8) Course material and instruction shall emphasize
3 that the pupil has the power to control personal
4 behavior. Pupils shall be encouraged to base their
5 actions on reasoning, self-discipline, sense of
6 responsibility, self-control, and ethical considerations,
7 such as respect for oneself and others.
8 (9) Course material and instruction shall teach
9 pupils to not make unwanted physical and verbal sexual
10 advances and how to say no to unwanted sexual advances
11 and shall include information about verbal, physical, and
12 visual sexual harassment, including without limitation
13 nonconsensual sexual advances, nonconsensual physical
14 sexual contact, and rape by an acquaintance. The course
15 material and instruction shall contain methods of
16 preventing sexual assault by an acquaintance, including
17 exercising good judgment and avoiding behavior that
18 impairs one’s judgment. The course material and
19 instruction shall emphasize personal accountability and
20 respect for others and shall also encourage youth to
21 resist negative peer pressure. The course material and
22 instruction shall inform pupils of the potential legal
23 consequences of sexual assault by an acquaintance.
24 Specifically, pupils shall be advised that it is unlawful
25 to touch an intimate part of another person, as specified
26 in the Criminal Code of 1961.
27 (10) Course material and instruction shall teach
28 male pupils about male accountability for sexual violence
29 and shall teach female students about reducing
30 vulnerability for sexual violence.
31 (11) Course material and instruction shall teach
32 pupils about counseling, medical, and legal resources
33 available to survivors of sexual abuse and sexual
34 assault, including resources for escaping violent

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1 relationships.
2 (12) Course material and instruction in classes
3 that discuss sexual activity or behavior shall teach
4 pupils that it is wrong to take advantage of or to
5 exploit another person.
6 (13) Course material and instruction shall be free
7 of racial, ethnic, gender, religious, and sexual
8 orientation biases.
9 (c) The State Superintendent of Education shall prepare
10 and make available to local school districts courses of
11 instruction designed to satisfy the requirements of this
12 Section.
13 The State Superintendent of Education shall develop a
14 procedure for evaluating and measuring the effectiveness of
15 the family life courses of instruction in each local school
16 district, including the setting of reasonable goals for
17 reduced sexual activity, sexually transmitted diseases and
18 premarital pregnancy. The goals shall be set by the beginning
19 of the 1991-92 school year. The State Superintendent shall
20 distribute a copy of the procedure to each local school
21 district. Each local school district may develop additional
22 procedures or methods for measuring the effectiveness of the
23 family life courses of instruction within the district.
24 Before the beginning of the 1993-94 school year, the State
25 Superintendent shall collect and evaluate all relevant data
26 to determine whether the goals are being achieved.
27 (Source: P.A. 86-941.)

28 Section 10. The Critical Health Problems and
29 Comprehensive Health Education Act is amended by changing
30 Sections 2 and 3 as follows:

31 (105 ILCS 110/2) (from Ch. 122, par. 862)
32 Sec. 2. Definitions. In this Act, the following terms

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1 shall have the following meanings respectively prescribed for
2 them, except as the context otherwise requires:
3 (a) “Comprehensive Health Education Program”: a
4 systematic and extensive educational program designed to
5 provide a variety of learning experiences based upon
6 scientific knowledge of the human organism as it functions
7 within its environment which will favorably influence the
8 knowledge, attitudes, values and practices of Illinois school
9 youth; and which will aid them in making wise personal
10 decisions in matters of health.
11 “Factual information” includes without limitation
12 medical, psychiatric, psychological, empirical, and
13 statistical statements.
14 “Medically accurate” means verified or supported by
15 research conducted in compliance with scientific methods,
16 published in peer-review journals, where appropriate, and
17 recognized as accurate and objective by professional
18 organizations and agencies with expertise in the relevant
19 field.
20 (Source: P.A. 77-1405.)

21 (105 ILCS 110/3) (from Ch. 122, par. 863)
22 Sec. 3. Comprehensive Health Education Program.
23 (a) The program established under this Act shall
24 include, but not be limited to, the following major
25 educational areas as a basis for curricula in all elementary
26 and secondary schools in this State: human ecology and
27 health, human growth and development, the emotional,
28 psychological, physiological, hygienic and social
29 responsibilities of family life, including sexual abstinence
30 and prevention of unintended pregnancy until marriage,
31 prevention and control of disease, including age appropriate
32 instruction in grades K 6 through 12 on the prevention of
33 sexually transmitted infections, including the prevention,

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1 transmission and spread of HIV AIDS, public and environmental
2 health, consumer health, safety education and disaster
3 survival, mental health and illness, personal health habits,
4 alcohol, drug use, and abuse including the medical and legal
5 ramifications of alcohol, drug, and tobacco use, abuse during
6 pregnancy, sexual abstinence until marriage, tobacco,
7 nutrition, and dental health.
8 (b) All comprehensive health education programs
9 established under this Act shall satisfy the following
10 criteria:
11 (1) Factual information presented in course
12 material and instruction shall be medically accurate and
13 objective.
14 (2) All course material and instruction in classes
15 that teach sex education and discuss sexual activity or
16 behavior shall be age and developmentally appropriate.
17 (3) Course material and instruction shall include a
18 discussion of sexual abstinence as a method to prevent
19 unintended pregnancy and sexually transmitted infections,
20 including HIV.
21 (4) Course material and instruction shall present
22 the latest medically factual information regarding both
23 the possible side effects and health benefits of all
24 forms of contraception, including the success and failure
25 rates for the prevention of pregnancy and sexually
26 transmitted infections, including HIV.
27 (5) Course material and instruction shall stress
28 that sexually transmitted infections are serious possible
29 hazards of sexual activity or behavior. Pupils shall be
30 provided with statistics based on the latest medical
31 information citing the failure and success rates of all
32 methods of contraception in preventing HIV and other
33 sexually transmitted infections.
34 (6) Course material and instruction shall advise

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1 pupils that it is unlawful for males or females of any
2 age to engage in sexual conduct or have sexual relations
3 with a minor as specified in Article 12 of the Criminal
4 Code of 1961.
5 (7) Course material and discussion shall discuss
6 and provide for the development of positive communication
7 skills to maintain healthy relationships and avoid
8 unwanted sexual activity.
9 (8) Course material and instruction shall emphasize
10 that the pupil has the power to control personal
11 behavior. Pupils shall be encouraged to base their
12 actions on reasoning, self-discipline, sense of
13 responsibility, self-control, and ethical considerations,
14 such as respect for oneself and others.
15 (9) Course material and instruction shall teach
16 pupils to not make unwanted physical and verbal sexual
17 advances and how to say no to unwanted sexual advances
18 and shall include information about verbal, physical, and
19 visual sexual harassment, including without limitation
20 nonconsensual sexual advances, nonconsensual physical
21 sexual contact, and rape by an acquaintance. The course
22 material and instruction shall contain methods of
23 preventing sexual assault by an acquaintance, including
24 exercising good judgment and avoiding behavior that
25 impairs one’s judgment. The course material and
26 instruction shall emphasize personal accountability and
27 respect for others and shall also encourage youth to
28 resist negative peer pressure. The course material and
29 instruction shall inform pupils of the potential legal
30 consequences of sexual assault by an acquaintance.
31 Specifically, pupils shall be advised that it is unlawful
32 to touch an intimate part of another person as specified
33 in the Criminal Code of 1961.
34 (10) Course material and instruction shall teach

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1 male pupils about male accountability for sexual violence
2 and shall teach female students about reducing
3 vulnerability for sexual violence.
4 (11) Course material and instruction shall teach
5 pupils about counseling, medical, and legal resources
6 available to survivors of sexual abuse and sexual
7 assault, including resources for escaping violent
8 relationships.
9 (12) Course material and instruction in classes
10 that discuss sexual activity or behavior shall teach
11 pupils that it is wrong to take advantage of or to
12 exploit another person.
13 (13) Course material and instruction shall be free
14 of racial, ethnic, gender, religious, or sexual
15 orientation biases.
16 (c) Notwithstanding the above educational areas, the
17 following areas may also be included as a basis for curricula
18 in all elementary and secondary schools in this State: basic
19 first aid (including, but not limited to, cardiopulmonary
20 resuscitation and the Heimlich maneuver), early prevention
21 and detection of cancer, heart disease, diabetes, stroke, and
22 the prevention of child abuse, neglect, and suicide. The
23 school board of each public elementary and secondary school
24 in the State shall encourage all teachers and other school
25 personnel to acquire, develop, and maintain the knowledge and
26 skills necessary to properly administer life-saving
27 techniques, including without limitation the Heimlich
28 maneuver and rescue breathing. The training shall be in
29 accordance with standards of the American Red Cross, the
30 American Heart Association, or another nationally recognized
31 certifying organization. A school board may use the services
32 of non-governmental entities whose personnel have expertise
33 in life-saving techniques to instruct teachers and other
34 school personnel in these techniques. Each school board is

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1 encouraged to have in its employ, or on its volunteer staff,
2 at least one person who is certified, by the American Red
3 Cross or by another qualified certifying agency, as qualified
4 to administer first aid and cardiopulmonary resuscitation.
5 In addition, each school board is authorized to allocate
6 appropriate portions of its institute or inservice days to
7 conduct training programs for teachers and other school
8 personnel who have expressed an interest in becoming
9 qualified to administer emergency first aid or
10 cardiopulmonary resuscitation. School boards are urged to
11 encourage their teachers and other school personnel who coach
12 school athletic programs and other extracurricular school
13 activities to acquire, develop, and maintain the knowledge
14 and skills necessary to properly administer first aid and
15 cardiopulmonary resuscitation in accordance with standards
16 and requirements established by the American Red Cross or
17 another qualified certifying agency.
18 (d) No pupil shall be required to take or participate in
19 any class or course on HIV AIDS or family life instruction if
20 his parent or guardian submits written objection thereto, and
21 refusal to take or participate in the course or program shall
22 not be reason for suspension or expulsion of the pupil.
23 (e) Curricula developed under programs established in
24 accordance with this Act in the major educational area of
25 alcohol and drug use and abuse shall include classroom
26 instruction in grades 5 through 12. The instruction, which
27 shall include matters relating to both the physical and legal
28 effects and ramifications of drug and substance abuse, shall
29 be integrated into existing curricula; and the State Board of
30 Education shall develop and make available to all elementary
31 and secondary schools in this State instructional materials
32 and guidelines which will assist the schools in incorporating
33 the instruction into their existing curricula. In addition,
34 school districts may offer, as part of existing curricula

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1 during the school day or as part of an after school program,
2 support services and instruction for pupils or pupils whose
3 parent, parents, or guardians are chemically dependent.
4 (Source: P.A. 92-23, eff. 7-1-01.)

5 Section 90. The State Mandates Act is amended by adding
6 Section 8.27 as follows:

7 (30 ILCS 805/8.27 new)
8 Sec. 8.27. Exempt mandate. Notwithstanding Sections 6
9 and 8 of this Act, no reimbursement by the State is required
10 for the implementation of any mandate created by this
11 amendatory Act of the 93rd General Assembly.

12 Section 99. Effective date. This Act takes effect upon
13 becoming law.

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I’ll do one better. Tomorrow I am meeting with some local PUMAs that I connected with here through No Quarter last night and we are meeting…guess where…THE LOCAL MCCAIN OFFICE!

I’m not just voting for McCain…I am going to volunteer for McCain. Sitting on this website bitching and moaning is fun but I’m also taking some action. I think it is *that* important.

Sure, PUMAs have power, but I’m not getting all grandious about it. I’m not wasting my energy on a scorched-earth policy.

Some people like their blood sport, I guess. Me, I’m ready to clean up the Democratic party and get this country healthy again.

Any extra time and energy goes to helping friends, family and neighbors.

Just my two cents.

I think NM and OH, Vinnie.

Good stuff.

Democrats are the party of cheating and voter fraud. Obama and Congress caused the financial crisis.

However, the only real issue of importance is national security and really, you know you can not trust Pampers. Many people wait and vote at the last minute for the indicated winner. In this case, McCain/Palin

mimi: Did you know that Oblama voted against funds for Katrina victims many times? And did you know that Governor and soon to be vice president Palin donated money to Katrina victims with State money gotten from a windfall for stopping wasteful pork spending? Please let your friends know this. Who really cares? That’s the question. And who will keep our country safe?

John, most have already read that here. If not, let us look the sh** up ourselves and quit with the c&p!
Thank you.

Hey everyone, I am a Democrat out here in the West (Pacific NW) and I have never been as far left as our party currently seems to have drifted. I have always had a little bit of the Palin-type feminism in me.

I am pro-choice because I believe that all women have the right to choose what to do with their own bodies. I have friends who are gay and lesbians, married or not. Out here a lot of us “feminists” hunt, stack hay, ride the range, take care of our families and animals, cut wood, pray to God daily. What I am not is the far far left feminist who condemns women like Sarah Palin for having the courage to give birth to her little baby boy with Downs Syndrome.

What happened to being the Super Mom we all were during the 70′s and 80′s. I worked, raised three wonderful boys, made sure they were well fed, went to all of their football games, track meets, teachers’ conferences, etc. Part of that time I was a single mom besides. The only thing that might have suffered was the housework. I could never had passed the White Glove inspection. That’s the definition of feminism I see in Sarah Palin.

Gosh, I didn’t mean to go on so. I’m just disgusted with the piling on of Sarah Palin. I believe she and John McCain is the better choice for our Country this time around.

Most all states are full of small towns with a couple big cities like Alaska. DOH!

Hey Girl,

Here’s my take. If it makes a difference…VOTE MCCAIN. That is – if you live in a swing state, you don’t want it to swing to BARACKDONNAHOWARDNANCY.
But…and if you live in a state that’s solidly RED or BLUE vote to 1)piss off Barky 2)tell the Republicans we don’t love them either so shape up.

I am voting McKinney unless hell freezes over and my state is in play.

On topic. Larry, you’ve been my refuge for 9 months now…well, Susan really. But c’mon. Sarah Palin is terrific and almost every thing you say…

But she’s no way in Hell Hillary’s equal. She really gets under Obama’s skin though.

Yesterday the Obama campaign sent me an email, the first in a while. The subject? “Karl Rove said McCain went too far”!!

On a day when a bank as large and old as Lehman goes bankrupt, they choose to talk about Karl Rove? This tells me he will be even LESS attentive to crisis once he’s elected.

I have the same feelings about Barack Obama that I did for GWB and that was/is He cannot be trusted. And I can happily say, I did not vote for GWB either time. I voted for Gore without any hesitation, but held my nose when I voted for Kerry.

Kindergarteners do not need to know about sex education. This is too much for a little tot to bear. Come on.

JM

THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS ON FIRE FOR THIS TICKET!!

The MSM will NOT make any difference, their mind
is already made up. AND…..

THEY ARE WELL ORGANIZED….

Remember GWB = 2 terms?

today it is he has not seen Lehman’s books.

Oblama wouldn’t even KNOW HOW to read accounting books if he tried! What a farce he is. Here’s where the governor of Alaska comes into play with her fiscal expertise. Bite it Barky!

I agree with all you have said, but the Democratic Party of today is NOT the same party we had under President Clinton. And President Clinton was a man with a mind of his own. Although he had advisors, the final decision was always his.

Unfortunately, President Bush has had some very different people advising him. His VP had much too much influence over him and I’m afraid made many of the decisions concerning the country that are usually made by the president. Haven’t you ever wondered how Cheney wound up being the VP choice when we thought he was just to head the committee to search for a VP. What easier way to become the top dog when you knew the American people would never elect you to the position?

While Bill Clinton was one of the best presidents we’ve ever had, and Hillary would have made a very good president, the present Democratic candidate is a different matter altogether. Barack Obama is no Bill Clinton nor is he anywhere comparable to Hillary Clinton. The accomplishments of Bill Clinton will never be made by Barack Obama, Soretoro or Dunham – whatever his real name is. And if by some hook or crook he makes it to the White House GOD HELP US ALL.

Little by little the true profile of palin is taking form. As it does fewer and fewer Americans will find palin little more than another rightwing extremist like those who have worked to destroy this country for the last 20 years, excluding Clinton. Personally I will vote for the person I think is most likely to end up with a surplus at the end of his or her tenure, and that does not include plain and her $20 million debt her city owes. As I said before, Larry, I believe you voted for bush in 1999 and 2003. I can only suggest you don’t seem to learn your lessons well.

“Obama ‘fundamentally’ implies he is some sort of a messiah and so do many of his followers.”

Obama has said nothing of the sort. (One could parse that to say that Obama has said nothing as well and also be close to the truth)

The “implication” is by the fools that project their political niavete upon him. He and his handlers just feed their dreams much the same way as the GOP is feeding the politically nave here the line that Palin actually stands for anything other than a goat tethered to take the heat off McCain.

My repudiation of McCain, post the Palin nomination, is merely the same determination of the best of two evils that I have been making for 44 years now. McCain’s choice of a fundamentalist Christian ideologue just made it easier this time.

The rest, especially the passionate capitalization, I leave to the True Believers.

They are such a hoot.

I AM BOYCOTTING PAULA DEAN BECAUSE OF IT!!!

No. You really should panic. The geezer and the beauty queen are in trouble.

All momentum is with Oblama? Is that why the DNC whom I have never given money to, has snail-mailed me a desperate letter for money saying that McCain & Palin are leading? They even gave me a bumper sticker to entice my support. Oh and Bill Clinton emailing desperate requests for funds too, saying McCain is winning?
Iy sounds like you are in dream land where they give you a free ticket to make stuff up when ever, where ever.

I ALSO STOPPED WATCHING A L L OF RACHEL RAY’S

SHOWS AFTER SHE HAD OZERO AND HIS MRS. AS GUEST ON

HER SHOW.

You may want to start packing then. I hear Canada nice during the winter.

I’m not sure how you can put down volunteerism as a “scorched earth” policy.

I happen to think McCain is a decent man and should win regardless of the voter fraud. I also want to support the second woman VP ever in the history of the US.

Far too often, people in America get complacent and poo-poo things like volunteering for a campaign. Well, guess what happens then? Only the KOOKS and the EXTREMISTS get active (on both sides), and guess where that leads us?

I encourage everyone who has some time and energy to volunteer for the McCain campaign if you feel strongly enough that Obama should not be in office. Otherwise, it’s the radical nutjobs like ACORN that will have their say in the election.

Are you paniked and scared that Oblama is losing? Is that why you are slamming the Honest, God Loving candidates?

For sure. I was thinking about that last night. The good ole boys have ruined this country and they cannot fix it. Women can and will clean things up with few exceptions.

We have heard that before

The female vote, especially the ex-Clinton supporter vote, is way overblown

Keep dreaming. We are more than you can fathom I see.

Has anyone seen the cool pic of the good Gov. of Alaska on her motorcycle. It looks like a Harley. Man she is way cool. Being pro life is not the worst thing in the world. I’m a Dem who is pro-life.

What many people choose not to see is that the economy tanked when the Dems took control of Congress in 2006. I want real reform and the protection of the constitution that Congress has wittled down to practically nothing.

Also, when people use the court appointments argument, I have to recall who nominated Stephens and O’Connor. It was not a Democrat. No, I did not agree with that President’s major policies. And, we have to blame Dems for allowing the nominations of very conservative justices to go forward.

I see a grain of truth to this but McCain prolly saw the bad effects of slashing the rival to threads. In the end it loses votes for the one doing the slamming. He’s had good TV ads and has Oblama in a panic.

Yes and “McCain didn’t question my Muslim faith” says Oblama. So it’s all cool huh?

write McCain camp and tell them what’s on your mind JM08.
info@johnmcain.com

It’s falling on deaf ears here.

I also had great difficulty in coming to the decision for whom to vote. I really despise BHO, and would never consider a vote for him. But I don’t like Mccain much if any better.
I am voting McKinney. I am tired of the whole lesser of two evils meme; of voting for someone I detest, just because I’m hoping they’ll do less harm than the other guy.
If more people would vote 3rd party instead of saying it can’t happen, 3rd party would be viable. It is all over the world; why not here?
To me, the ultimate in throwing my vote away is voting one more time for someone I don’t want or respect, especially when there are other, better choices.
A vote for McKinney is a vote for McKinney. Period. It is not a vote for BHO. It is a vote for a strong ethical woman whose ideology much more closely mirrors my own than either of the 2 party candidates. If McCain had wanted my vote then he freaking well could have supported the issues I care about, like Clinton did.
Why should I hold him to a low standard just because he isn’t BHO? I want a candidate I can believe in.
McKinney in 2008, Clinton in 2012.

Voting 3rd party is an option but I have a feeling it would allow the Junior Senator from Illinois to be President, which is entirely unacceptable, imo.

I can believe that. Obama runs his campaign based on the blogs and always has. When nothing is happening much in the blogs, Oblama flails.

She would have thrown down the gauntlet and said “enough!” and walked away from the party if need be.

All the while waving goodbye with a big smile on her face. Oh Man, Palin will do so much good. Won’t it be nice!
Funny I am feeling the same Hillary or Bust. Is it blasphemy?

Huffington Post is unreliable. Why do you even read their made up stories and worse, why do you post them here where we look down on Huff as irreputable?

Sometimes it is more important to vote for the needs of the society than on a single conviction. Look to the future and see where Obama would take this country.

If you cannot live with that Vote for McCain.

First of all, not every state allows you to have a write-in candidate.

Secondly, I believe that some of those states that do allow you to write in a candidate do not allow for a write in candidate of someone who lost in a primary election.

Third, if your goal is to be sure that Barry is NOT elected then you MUST vote for McCain. A write in vote is a wasted vote while a vote for JM is an extra vote that Barry actually has to fight. Not only does he need one vote to even the score, then he needs a vote to move ahead. Got it?

I understand everyone’s frustration and there are a lot of good points and counter points on the subject. But NObama, NOway means McCain it’s gotta be. Support your downticket dems, those that supported Hillary anyway, to keep JM and the Republicans in check.

When Obama loses, he can move into the shack in Kenya with his bro.

you are still one of the dumbest s.o.b.s here

On Nov. 5th, the headlines in the NYT, HuffnPuff will be “McCain Steals the Election”!!!!

Another Dem Bites the Dust.

You are right. While Sarah Palin seems at first read to have a lot going for her, there’s no way that Sarah Palin is Hillary Clinton’s equal. Not even close. To suggest such a thing is offensive to me.

You said you were never coming back here, Celsius. I suppose that means we can add the term liar to all the other pejoratives you’ve accumulated over the months.

I agree with Larry’s take on Governor Palin. Actions speak louder than “just” words!

Or they’ll just round up the usual excuses, starting with it’s all Clinton’s fault.

Yes, he must be defeated soundly or he will come back to haunt us in 2012. Boy, I’d love to see him resign the senate. Sweet Justice.

We must also think about the message that needs to be sent to Dean and Pelosi et al about their “selection”. Those two characters need to be humiliated as well.

The most disapointing thing about Kerry, what spoke to his arrogance was that he didn’t fight the Swift Boat attacks. He didn’t buy live TV time to address it and say:

“I won the silver star, and two purple hearts in service to my country. I fought and bled for America while George Bush served in the Air National Guard in Texas. No one can question my service or my sacrifices. I fought against the war because I was there, and knew it needed to end.”

That would have won him the Presidency, but he failed to stand up for himself, and I lost all respect for him then. And I voted against him today for the first time.

the only “conviction” palin has is the conviction of trying to fool hard-working americans again and again with her plethora of lies.

this country deserves better than the mccain/palin ticket. she’s a religious zealot who feels she has god’s ear when building pipelines and going to war. she is dangerous and not smart enough about the myriad of issues that it takes to run this country. her trying to buy time in answering charlie gibson’s questions last week was, frankly, pathetic and demoralizing. she’s a sociopath who believes her own press…most of the country sees through her and her sophomoric posturing. “wired” for leadership, my ass. she’s a nut.

i don’t need my potential president to be “typical middle class”…”crazy eyes” palin sees your insecurities and is using them to full advantage — she’s playing you like a stradivarius. people voted for bush twice because he was somebody they’d like to have a beer with…and look where that’s gotten us. the dim-witted have had their chance to be leader of the free world — why not let’s try giving the educated and experienced a try before this millenium’s first decade is over, huh? or is this country not yet run enough into the ground for you? would you like to see its total economic decimation? because that’s what’ll happen if mccain and his billionaire cronies get into office.

palin’s “character” is disingenuous, filled with tired jingoisms that she has repeatedly trotted out to confuse you and your ilk…and every four years for the past eight years this ploy has worked. and what has it gotten us? a wrong-headed war, recession, mounting unemployment, and skyrocketing foreclosures. yeah, that’s “character” all right — bad character.

palin is a drone for the re-thug-licans — she accepted that “bridge to nowhere” money…she doesn’t have the stomach for taking on the “powerful in the” re-thug-lican party.

if you have that much of a problem with the re-thug-lican party, why are you a re-thug-lican? hasn’t giving them eight years to f*ck up this country been enough? you think that somehow, magically, if we all tap our ruby red slippers together that in another four years the re-thug-licans will no longer be the party of avarice, greed, corruption, and religious zealotry? seriously? when avarice, greed, corruption, and religious zealotry have been the re-thug-licans bread and butter lo these many years? wake up, dorothy!

palin doesn’t have the “courage” to allow investigators to fully probe “troopergate” independently, she doesn’t have the courage to admit she’s lying when she sneers for the upteenth time “thanks, but no thanks” to the “bridge to nowhere,” and she only admitted that bristol was pregnant when mccain’s people were tired of telling the press that trig is not bristol’s baby. she has no courage and is a pathological liar, as well as a sociopath, who cares nothing for this country. she is a carpetbagger.

“politicsisdirty,” you are a cretin who is buying into mccain and palin’s lying lies that they will be different from bush, cheney, and all of their sychophants.

he who forgets the past is condemned to repeat it.

Reheated obamabot leftovers, anyone?

No takers, Goob. Try HuffPo, instead.

Funny thing is that you can do a find and replace in your screed with palin and obama, the result is a lot closer to the truth!
Face it troll, we don’t like oBOMBa, he isn’t going to win, and will join a long list of liberal losers in the quadrennial exercise in self-flaggellation that America calls an election.
By the way, idiot, John McCain is running for the big chair, not Gov. Palin, in case you missed that little point.

Oh Kelvin is Baaaack to spew his made up stories. Obamacamp got boring and fretful Kelvin Huh?
‘fraid much?

I love her…HRC. class act always

Hillary is gone. It was a hard pill to swallow. But it’s over.

Look troll, on your planet, where tinfoil hats are all the rage, you might be on to something. But here in the real world, the lies are coming from McCain’s opponent. The junior Senator from Illinois has never met a lie he couldn’t tell. You emulate him quite well, which means no one is listening to you.

Sarah has 20 years serving our country in Gov’t. She is not new. Just that many people have little awareness of what goes on out West. Yeah there is a West coast to America.

Ooops-I passed over that long diatribe of made up stories. Whew!

Candoo, if you were worried about this country’s safety, you wouldn’t be trying to convince others to vote for “100 Years’ War” McCain…Your strategy is to sink this country deeper than where it already is…You are definitely not a political strategist because you’re assuming that McCain won’t die before 2012, and that the religious right will not grow in numbers to RE-ELECT “President Palin” in 2012…Are you reading of any of the other post-ers’ comments here? Do you not see what a heap of addlepated and easily coerced neocons there already are, willing to follow anybody, ANYBODY with the moniker of “Republican” in front of their name, no matter how unqualified they’re proven to be?

I don’t believe that you’re a Hillary supporter; I believe you’re a McCain supporter who’s trying to rattle the cages of those who voted for Hillary during the primary season. But women who voted for Hillary during the primaries are too smart to vote for the likes of McCain/Palin.

McCain overestimated the “Vagina Factor,” as any original member of the “He-Man Women Haters” Club would. Old Johnny Boy is a caricature of his former self…he’s a tragic figure who’ll do and say anything to become president.

“Cunt-ry First,” ‘more like it.

I’m with ya. Yes WE can.

McBaffle: Seriously? That’s all you got in your arsenal? Really?

You’re a waste of space, McBaffle.

Let’s see…
We have
ageism
sexism
the tired old “you’re just a republican pretending to be a democrat” schtick

something’s missing

what could it be?

Oh yeah, the race card, you forgot the race card.

try again troll
3 tries for a dollar

Does your resume include the phrase gas-bag?

I judge a politician by what they do not what they.

In that Mr. Johnson, you are not alone.

Thing is how many know “what they do”.

I ran into an educator today that was not informed. Smart guy too. Didn’t know a thing about Obama. Ya should have seen his face when I told I thought BO was immoral. It was like a slapped him. I didn’t mean to. I like this person alot, but was amazed, but not surprised, at the lack of information / awareness.

Thanks for this site.

are we tag-teaming on the beat on trolls matches tonight?

Tell that to McCain’s cluster of as-yet-undiscovered cancer cells.

And by the way, idiot, when you’re done telling that to McCain’s as-yet-undiscovered cluster of cancer cells, tell that to VP Teddy Roosevelt, VP Harry Truman, and VP Lyndon Johnson…I guess they never ascended to president, idiot?

Oh, and idiot? None of the presidents that Roosevelt, Truman, and Johnson succeeded were as old as McCain was when they entered office. Got that, idiot?

If the best indicator of future behavior is past behavior, then both McCain and Palin have shown their willingness to put principles before party. They will not be hesitant to act for the good of the country. Using the same premise for Obama and Biden, the future would look bleak indeed.

As opposed to your uninspired vacuous, verbal pit stops, why yes, it DOES include the phrase “gas-bag.”

Why do you even bother trying to express yourself? You’re boring, predictable, and bitter, McBerfle. Yawn.

Ah, yes: Ageism, Sexism, and Racism — the three pillars of the Republican Party. It takes me back…

Whatever Bridgette. It’s a waste of a vote if it’s write-in or third party. That’s what you obots want us to do right bridgette? waste our vote? A vote for McCain counts as double. Payback is a beach.

Sassy, you’re a world-class ‘tard.

Truly, you’re a ‘tard.

wow asshole you called me idiot, what four times, you scared little piece of amphibian droppings. I’ll drop the idiot, for a better term, imbecile, as it fits you so well.

Are you that scared and threatened by the thought of a woman president?
Are you that afraid of Obama’s lack of experience, judgement, character, qualifications and ability?
Does the fact that Senator McCain has released his medical records, while Senator Obama has released a note from his doctor, frighten you? Maybe he has been treated for, cocaine addiction? He also smokes, not a good thing for you to bring up those

as-yet-undiscovered cluster of cancer cells

And by the way, Franklin Roosevelt was in his FOURTH term when he died, kind of doubtful we’ll see that again.
And guess what, people live longer now than when those fine folks in the last century you cite did.
It’s been fun educating you, idiot.
Go play with the goat.
Be nice, use lubricant

Thanks for the info.

I will be spreading this around for sure.

@ McBerfle — Since you’re making that list anyway, can you do me a solid and add McCain and Palin’s names to your “liar” list?

Funny how Obama is the one who looks ready to keel over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk_fPi-24Iw

Hate your mom!

Hate her!

Get her tested for dementia, stat!

I think Sarah broke the back of the Democratic Party.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk_fPi-24Iw

Inappropriate.

Man, substitute Palin with Obama and you got a
true statement there! Remarkable how every word is
about O…

@ Kevin — Can you offer more advice on this one-on-one goat action that you’ve suggested? You sound quite experienced in farm animal fetishes…a man and his goat — there really is no more sacred of a union, I suppose.

Hey everybody: Kevin is available to give free man-on-goat advice to the uninitiated!

And who says you’re not a liberal?

Let’s see
A republican ticket with
a decorated war veteran with a well documented record of bipartisan dealings, noted as a maverick, and a female governor as the VP candidate, who has a record as a reformer and has actual managerial experience.
A democratic ticket with
a inexperienced junior senator with a record of corrupt machine politics, who has no credible accomplishments to his credit, who has very questionable associations and affiliations, and a VP candidate who is noted for chairing the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings, and is alleged to have a serious drinking problem.
Tough choice for me to make there, pookie.
You and your troll friends have helped me to make this tough decision.
I’ll go with the war hero.
Play nice with the goat.
Please use lubricant.

You’re right, it IS inappropriate that Sassy’s a ‘tard.

Who can I report her ‘tard-ness to?

Socalannie, stick with me and we can change this world!

You be Thelma, and I’ll be Louise.

And no ‘tards allowed!

Wow, you just can’t get enough of this goat-fetish talk, can you, Kevin? That’s TWICE that you’ve offered up a goat…Clearly, being a Republican ISN’T your biggest problem…Somebody, and I won’t give out his name but his initials are: K.e.v.i.n., needs to address his bestiality cravings…Maybe you have this forum confused with your 4-H symposium?

how many times are you going to change your handle?
Can you answer any of the points raised?
And you are obviously a newbie, so I’ll clue you into the little joke.
Obie Trolls are from Gaza
Gaza is in the mideast, lots of goats, very few private computers with access to bigones.com
Obie trolls get time with the village goat instead of payment from big Obie in America.
That’s in the first chapter of Gaza Troll Guide to No Quarter.
Do try to keep current
Thanks for playing

so young, so clueless, doesn’t get the fact that the idiot troll with the ever changing screen name is being called a goatherd from Gaza.
And, how does your lack of reason make a case for obama?
Does the fact that he is playing defense worry you?
Does the fact that mr. hope and change offers nothing beyond empty words?
Does the fact that he may have violated federal law in his “negotiations” with Iraqi leaders trouble you in the slightest?
Do his remarks about Governor Palin smack of desperation?
Does $300 billion annually in new spending proposals sound rational to you?
Any more wit and sarcasm to come from you?
Can you make a reasoned argument for your candidate?

The corporate entity known as Lehman Brothers is a 14 year old bank with a 150 year old name

Clefnote,

I’m afraid you are a little late but as has always been said, the revolution will not be televised.

There is a new party growing and I bet you agree with that party more than with either the Reps or Dems.

That’s who we are here on this blog. As it should be. Americans who love their country not a political party, Americans are are willing to be ridiculed and threatened for their opposition.

And I’m afraid Larry’s rather clear explanation may have gone over your head. Larry’s comparison had to do with courage and not the political flavor (scary cause) of the day.

As a strong Hillary supporter, I saw her cave under pressure and NOBODY but a few handful stood up for her. It is my personal opinion that Hillary could use to be more like Palin.

How many of us did not wish Hillary would have broken from the pack and headed the Independent party?

I think Hillary has learned that to win a war, you have to fight many battles. This is also what McCain knows, expects and has been working an entire life for. This comes only with experience.

But experience alone is not enough. I point to the House and Senate. It takes character. Hillary has it. Palin has it. McCain has it.

I don’t know anything about Obama other than he hopes he has it and like my husband, he sure promises to change a lot.

POW!

I’m voting for McCain/Palin and taking as many old folks as I can with me. {pass the Malox}

Bahama Mama Obama won’t steal Florida.

And don’t forget – Palin is about 20 years younger than Hillary – what does that mean to me? That by the time that Palin is in her 60s, she will have the EXPERIENCE in politics/government that Hillary CURRENTLY HAS NOW.

Are you dumb, or a real moron?

“It is my personal opinion that Hillary could use to be more like Palin.”

Until we see Palin get the same kind of pressure and hatred hurled at her by her own party, the Repugs, as the “Democrats” did to Clinton, you asshole have no right to tell Clinton to be like Palin. Palin could not have stand the pressure that Hillary Clinton faced. Palin would have wilted in February, unlike Hillary who met the challenge head on until the end of the primaries.

You are one dumb asshole because if Palin was in Hillary’s situation, Palin herself would not have the balls to start her own independent party.

What she did in Alaska pales to what Hillary has accomplished. Hillary took on the national “democratic” party as best as she could, all Palin faced were Repugs from an insignificant, mostly deserted state called Alaska. HILLARY TOOK ON THE NATIONAL PARTY, GOT IT, MORON? PALIN ONLY TOOK ON ALASKA!

To compare what Palin did on a small scale in Alaska as equal to the true challenges and difficulties that Hillary faced on a national scale is a true insult to Hillary Clinton.

VetGirl, YOU ARE NOT A TRUE HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTERS, YOU ARE A MORONIC REPUG!!! I WILL NOT TOLERATE YOUR DEGRADING OF HILLARY WHILE UPLIFTING PALIN AT HILLARY’S EXPENSE!!! ASSHOLE!!!

You are a pig, just like most of the bots are.

Obviously if you chose to reply to my comment, I must have hit a nerve.

OUCH! obamas gonna lose by a landslide.

Hillary Clinton – 35 years experience = Sarah Palin

This place has now really turned into a Repug place.

LARRY JOHNSON, STOP INSULTING HILLARY CLINTON BY SAYING PALIN IS HILLARY’S EQUAL!!! PALIN IS NOT HILLARY’S EQUAL!!! PALIN IS BELOW HILLARY CLINTON AND CAN NEVER HOPE TO BE HILLARY’S EQUAL!!!

Only in SWING STATES! This is not a national election. It’s 50 state elections. It’s OK to vote third party if there is no way in hell your vote will matter anyway.

I live in NY. Barky will win NY. I can’t help John McCain here. If I could you damn well know I’d vote for him.

But if I vote McKinney, Barky knows I’m a LIBERAL who won’t vote for his empty suit self.

I disagree.

It’s pure conjecture on your part.

So far, Sarah has had the protection of the entire Republican Party to defend her against the sexism and attacks being thrown at her. Hillary had zilch.

Even Palin admitted that Hillary showed spunk in the face of such tremendous adversity.

You people simply refuse to get it: there was no way to fight with no one on your side within the Party. The SDs lined up against her and told her they weren’t going to give her their votes. Just like 0bama she needed their votes to capture the nomination.

You all watch too many movies. The scenario you would like to see would only happen in a movie script. It’s pure fiction.

Real politicians and both Hillary and Sarah are that, cut their losses and live to fight another day.

Any email I get from 0bama, Hillary or Bill, goes to the recyle bin and it’s empted toute suite. So far I’ve received no requests by mail. Personally, I think they know who I am and won’t waste the postage for me to send it back empty.

The Clintons are doing what they have to do. And I’m doing what I have to: vote for McCain. I don’t need to play follow the leader. That’s precisely why I’m not a Bothead. I don’t need anyone to lead me anywhere. This is a democracy. I am a voter. It’s up to the candidate to vie for my vote if they want to get elected. Once elected, they are only temporarily in office. They will not be a dictator, just an employee of the US gov’t being paid with my tax dollars. I expect not to agree with them all of the time. And if they screw up big time, I have the power to vote them out.

So grow up. It’s up to us to change the system.

I’m doing that by not letting this prick get into office. I was committed to vote McCain before Palin was on the ticket. She makes absolutely no difference to me. That she is a woman who has received a tremendous opportunity because of the way she has pursued her political career, is enough for me to give her respect. But I’m not deluding myself, we are light years apart on most issues. What brings us together right now is that she is a means to an end to make the Democratic Party understand that they can’t get away with shoving an unqualified candidate for president down our throats while kicking the better candidate to the curb.

My ideology has to wait unti 2012. Nothing 0blahblah can say will get me to fear McCain. It’s going to hit the fan no matter who’s president. I think McCain will handle it better. 0bama is a poor excuse of a human being who has never proven that he can handle walking a dog much less being responsible for the best country in the world.

So 2012 it is for me. And if it’s not HIllary, I pray that it will be someone else just as qualified or even more so. This is American democracy in action: a government for the people. It’s not about some slick marketing phenom. If we don’t stand our ground now, if we let them get away with selling us a president like they sell cola, well we might as well elect Paris Hilton.

BTW, this won’t be over after Election Day. We’ve only just begun the fight to get rid of Dean and the rest of the Democratic leadership, as well as the corrupt msm who think it’s their job to tell us who to vote for.

So dig your heels in folks, we have work to do!

Wry..
This could be a Reagan year like 1980.
We are all coming together in the center to defend this country from the extreme left that wish defeat for our nation.
I think McCain could win 40+ states including the great state of New York.

Even these latte liberals up here are having second thoughts.

Larry,

I have not been a big fan of how your site has been approaching things lately, but I have to say that THIS post reminds me of why I started visiting your site in the first place.

Character matters. Will you do the right thing even if that is the unpopular thing? Will you do the right thing even if you knew you could get away with doing the wrong thing.

Judgment matters just as much, however. You have to know what “the right thing” is.

Despite my misgivings that Obama is another Dubya, an empty suit, I was set to vote for him over McCain because of policy issues. I changed my mind a couple of weeks ago, determining that McCain is the lesser of two evils. Despite his pandering to the Religious Right, McCain is essentially a known quantity. Obama is a cipher. We got one of those with Dubya, and I don’t want another.

At the end of the day, McCain’s character far exceeds Obama’s, and his judgment is about on par, all things considered. McCain wins my vote.

I watched a documentary recently on Alaska. I can’t wait until they ask and learn the details of the earmarks.

Alaska has a crime problem. It is hard to get enough people to want to live in the wonderland and it appears even harder to retain them. The services they do have are so far away that by the time authorities appear, the crime is either done and over with and/or the perp is gone. They know this and can come back any time.

There are many places that go without hot running water and other essential utilities American’s take for granted. I think you can find the school children interviewed for one of the other MSM shows.

So how do you get around hiring your friends and relatives when that is what makes up a large part of your community?

It’s a non-argument.

cleaned it up? Do you read? she was a one woman corruption machine in Alaska….ask the Alaska Republican party!

You have seriously lost your shit Larry. I can’t determine if you are doing this for attention or your believe this tripe.

Why? She’s taken on her own party and done well so far. She’s a pretty determined young woman, and I think she’s got a bright future ahead of her.

Also, she’s 20 years Hillary’s junior, and she’s shaking up the same ol’, same ol’ way of doing things. Isn’t that what Hillary was doing about 20 years ago, being the working wife of a governor, right?

I have no problem with comparing her with Hillary. And I should think that Sen. Clinton, as gracious as she is, would agree. There’s nothing wrong with giving credit where credit’s due.

We all came together for a purpose: To unite against Obama. The majority here do not want to see that man take office. Reasons I don’t have to list for not voting for the man.

Larry has hit a note that is true to fact. Hillary and Sarah both have integrity. Many go through life with the lack of it. This is where the two are very much alike.

And, VetGirl, you made a valid point as well–Hillary should be more like Sarah? I’ll explain why I do not agree with you, is that Hillary didn’t have the backing of the Democratic Party like Sarah has with the Republicans. All of the Republicans came to the rescue for Sarah, immediately when she was being attacked. They fight for her.

Hillary, had no one. No one took on Obama for her. No one took on the media as well. Bill did the best he could. Now, Hillary is doing what she said she would do, and that was to give her support to Obama. You and I, and I’m sure most here will agree, if I were Hillary and Bill, I’d tell Obama to go screw himself. I’d publicaly announce my support for McCain. But, Bill and Hillary have “integrity.”

Finally, McCain’s messages and solutions are getting more out there to the people. Before he was stuck in the old townhall rallies that wasn’t doing the job. Thanks to Sarah, the two are drawing record breaking crowds.

After Chris Dodd, Barack Obama got the most donated money from Freddie Mac so you may be on to something.

No problem. She let the chef go and made her own sandwiches!

hahahaha! Ask the corrupt politicians she took on. Good one, Gail!

It’s true…VetGirl obviously has an anti-Hillary, anti-Dem agenda.

These rightwingers are rampant here.

VetGirl, you can speak for YOURSELF. PUMAs are DEMS. Let the extremists and the Chicago thugs go form the 314th “third” party.

I want MY PARTY BACK.

My vote for McCain/Palin is a protest vote. I do not support their positions, but I do agree with Larry that Palin has CHARACTER and integrity.

Barky is the corporate candidate, and so the corporate media is biased in his favor. But, look at how the corporate media polls. I haven’t checked recently, but last thing I read said that over 60% of people polled say they don’t trust the media. I know that they’ve polled lower than the Congress, whose approval rating has run about half of that of Bush’s.

With the advent of the internet, it’s been changing our elections somewhat. I agree, in part, with what you’re saying, and I do wish that the RNC would start sending out those ads, but I don’t think they’re really forthcoming. I doubt the corporations are any too eager to give that to us.

For my part, today I think my husband and I helped an Obama person change his mind. He came to our door to do a survey and left thinking about what’s real and what’s not. I gave him the addresses to some web sites (like this one), so now we’ll see. One point I used is how he’s the media’s candidate. That actually meant something to him.

So, I’ll do whatever I can do to keep that fraud out of my White House.

I couldn’t personally vote for McKinney because she believes in that 9/11 conspiracy crap, but otherwise, I think it’s a great choice to throw in the face of Obamacans who would have to choke on their “racist” charge!!!

Probably a lot of NON-DESERVING welfare/medicaid people are getting worried – in addition to greedy, rich executives/companies and over paid/underhanded congress/senators! Can’t come too soon, for me!

right on.

yes, mimi, my thoughts exactly. BTW, I love reading your posts.

“you are a racist, too stupid to know you are a racist, low educated, or too stupid to realize an “educated” man when you see him”
***

Those are fightin’ words for most people in the midwest and in the appalachian (sp?) regions – mountains of KY, WVA, and in Texas, etc. If they want to call us ‘racist’, so, be it. Do they REALLY think we would change our votes because of what they call us, or that they (we) would CARE what they call us? LOL – I don’t think so!

I support this as well. I love Mimi’s posts and always look forward to reading them. I also love Elise’s posts, and look for them as well.

Mimi, Native Americans Against Obama mention this in one of their UTube videos. About Palin donating money to Katrina victims and The One voting against giving money to them.

For you with concerns about John McCain or Sarah Palin. I think they will be fair to ALL Americans. There will not be a person on earth that can be all things to all people. Obama is trying that. Thus we have his flip flops and lies.

“Obama will say one thing in in Scranton, and another in San Francisco” Sarah Palin

That about sums it up. Do you want real people in office or do you want a lizard that changes color depending on who he is with?

Plenty here in Florida too. The State also has a hot line for price gougers.

Independent voters usually pick the winner.

Given most of our recent Presidents, this suggests that independents have crappy judgment.

Not to take away anything from Bob Barr, who I respect. However Zogby polls are highly suspect. His brother is a Super Delegate for Obama and publishes a Muslim paper. Take that however you will, it is what it is.

Is this the tfitz I “knew”? You sound like the same one who had heart for the Tibetans. But not the same one who took joy in the smell of napalm.

Maybe just the same name……?

If the same tfitz, I welcome the you with the kind heart.

I will vote McCain Palin as a protest vote and thankfully, it’s McCain running this time. However, as someone who closely followed Hillary’s career for years now, I in no way see Palin as her equal or even a real voice for me in any way that Hillary would have been.

Caucus fraud, sham roll call votes, and giving away delegates will not be rewarded. This counting of true votes and not cheating in this process is too important to not stand against the corrupt D.N.C.

But for me, it’s a sad and sorry choice I”m forced into here. Palin didn’t make a difference to me. In fact, I’m not happy to see her go ahead of Hillary as vp. But she IS better than the liars who cheated this country out of what might have been the best president of my life time.

We better hope McCain wins. Otherwise, the D.N.C. will make sure no one’s vote really matters anymore at all and Obama will get the say so on who is in charge. I want my party back, and I want Hillary in the White House as POTUS in 2012.

[...] Now, I am not one to attack Gov. Palin for no cause or based on flat out lies, rumor, or innuendo. But don’t use that same ploy with my Hillary, dammit!! (Along the lines of a comparison, Larry Johnson had a good one today, “Sarah Palin, Hillary Like, Not Hillary Lite.” [...]

Fourth Trimester? Do you have any idea what you are talking about? Not really is my guess. But that is what happens when you can’t keep your lies straight.

No she reassigned the chef to different position. The chef still was cooking for her and her kids just under a different title.

He was vetted by 18,000,000 people and by 18 months of campaigning. Both his auto-biographies got sliced, diced and julian fried. And speaking about vetting: Where is the tape Larry? Where is “whitey?”

Must beg to differ. They need to be a part of any age-appropriate sex ed regime. As in any education it is a continuum. The subject would be presented in way for them to understand. For the early years some very simple messaging about reporting “bad touching” or some such. Later on, definitely before puberty kicks in, other topics like AIDS and STDs would be covered.

Sexual predators molest Kindergärtners and pre-K children too. The kids have got to be told that Uncle Lou can not touch them in their secret place. Remember it’s a voluntary program and the parents do have an opt out. So if someone wanted to shield their wee bean from the evil world there was that option.

There was both a public health rational and law enforcement rational for the bill. What Keys and others have done is make it in to very cheap, very sleazy pornography. The ad was a gross distortion of the bill even as amended.

“The source said that Barclays won’t be buying any of Lehman’s troubled assets, including its real-estate and real-estate backed securities, derivatives or over-the-counter positions. Further, Lehman’s European business will remain in bankruptcy.”

Barclays is just scavaging the most tasty portions of Lehman’s corpse

“Now that the investment bank’s in bankruptcy, those assets can be left at the holding company and Barclays is free to pluck what businesses it desires.”

Spin away all you want but the trend is there for all to see. Fanny and Freddie Mac nationalized, AIG bailed out, Meryl Lynch acquired and both Bear Stearns and Lehman Brothers gone to the bone yard. All this happened under elephant purview under rules written by McCain’s economic brains Senator Phil Gramm.

Granted they were ably assisted by Hillary’s husband in this endeavor. But the ideology and the heavy political lifting were provided by the Republicans. One of the most dedicated of the deregulating foot soldiers was John McCain. Earlier this year McCain stood firm on the idea that less regulation of the financial markets was needed, not less. Thus the question becomes how one ‘cleans up” Wall Street without imposing new regulation or oversight. It is an interesting question.

Former HRC supporter here. I am voting McCain, in California, which is 14 points over to Obama. BUT there is a large McCain crowd out here, and we’re making inroads in the polls. My liberal girlfriends are SCREAMING at me for this, but what I saw in HRC’s defeat was that the problem for women in this country ISN’T defending Roe. The real problem is sexism and access to real power. Darned Republicans, in one swoop, knocked those demons off the plate, when the darned liberals tried propagating sexist attacks on their VP candidate. Amazing. Dems will get nothing out of me. Who’d have thunk the Republicans would be the progressives in terms of sexism???? They got my vote…

I am totally with you. I am a California professional woman that camps, shoots bows and arrows, and raises a daughter alone while going to grad school. My vaccuum cleaner has no significant mileage on it, and that’s life. I love HRC, but I like Sarah a lot too. I am unhappy with how far left the Dems went. I am a registered Independent, but voted Dem almost always. I feel the Dems have demonstrated they are the anti-woman party, and I like that McCain trumped that in his VP selection. He even said the coverage of HRC has been sexist. Jeez – a Republican takes up a woman’s cause? Good for him! I also like it that the Repubs defended Palin from sexist media (and liberal feminist) attacks. The Dems piled on – so much for looking out for women! Feminism was supposed to be about advancing the causes of ALL women, not just those with the same beliefs as some.

So I don’t think Gov. Palin is Sen. Clinton’s equal. But I don’t think she is devil incarnate either and I frankly like a lot of what she has done. She certainly has more experience than Senator Obama, sad to say.

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Re: Panic
You don’t panic when the odds are even. You begin to panic when you find that you are down 10 points.

Re: God Loving candidates
Should you live long enough to know when to panic, you will learn repeatedly that candidates only love themselves.

Re: Honest candidates:
I know of only one person that ever leveled with the American people and it really pissed them off to be told that they were not the people their parents were, that they were self-absorbed and consumed by their material possessions. He lost.

The quote was per CNN:

“Well, I don’t think John McCain could run a major corporation, I don’t think Barack Obama could run a major corporation, I don’t think Joe Biden could run a major corporation,” Fiorina said.

“It is a fallacy to suggest that the country is like a company. So, of course, to run a business, you have to have a lifetime of experience in business, but that’s not what Sarah Palin, John McCain, Joe Biden or Barack Obama are doing.”

And Carly should know, because she cannot run a major corporation either.
The HP board collectively broke its foot off in her ass making her disappear along with a 21 million golden parachute and the 7000 engineers, technicians and assemblers she laid off. She annoys me more than Obama’s adviser, Zbigniew Zabriskie. At least if you don’t nuke the economy, you can still have a chance at rebuilding the military.

The Republican axiom that governments should be run like businesses has always tickled old Jim. When things get bad, lay off your citizens. Better yet outsource the bastards.

“Despite your complaint about Bush, it’s still 7/0 with terrorists losing. [Quoting a well-known conservative writer.]”

Firstly, I am nonplussed about your references to my complaints about Bush. I believe Bush is brilliant, albeit severely misguided, incurious and stubborn, traits that the marketplace has recently shown to be universally Republican. He brilliantly got a nation of the politically immature and self-absorbed to elect him twice. You are the gomers I have the complaint about. The Romans had it right: The generation that came online in 2000 should have been exposed at birth.

Secondly, either you or your well-known conservative writer are goddamn liars attempting to mislead the country during a period in which it is in some peril. “7/0″ indeed, as if plugging your ears and humming will remove the bayonet from your guts. If anything, the past years have shown the increasing destabilization of the regimes we were counting on in Asia to carry our water in combating this so-called “terrorism”. Are casting these lies actionable treason during time of war?

“Treason doth never prosper: what’s the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.”

In a perfect world you, your friend Coulter and your fellow-travelers would have been chained to the embassy fence at 9:00 in Yemen yesterday.

Hmmmm, NOT.

This guy has done nothing, and he’s got TWO autobiographies? And they don’t mention Black Liberation Theology, Rezko, Ayers, or his successful, but unethical election tactics, which are the heart of his success.

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Please keep these excellent posts coming.