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Obama, Did I Mention Incompetent?

The President steps out in front of the microphones attended by human props to make a case for more unemployment insurance because his weak stimulus package has failed to create significant private sector jobs. And who does he front? A convicted criminal for the love of God. Leslie Macko. Here’s what Barack had to say about poor Leslie:

“We need to extend unemployment compensation benefits for women like Leslie Macko, who lost her job at a fitness center last year, and has been looking for work ever since. Because she’s eligible for only a few more weeks of unemployment, she’s doing what she never thought she’d have to do. Not at this point, anyway. She’s turning to her father for financial support,” Obama said in his speech at the White House on July 19th.

Boo hoo. Oh yes, he feels her pain. Gotta love that image–Barack shilling for someone initially charged with grand larceny.

Macko was once employed at ACAC Fitness and Wellness Center in the Albemarle Square Shopping Center. However, in April 2009, a month after being found guilty of prescription drug fraud, she lost her job as an aesthetician in the spa at ACAC.

ACAC CEO Greg Wells told the Newsplex that Macko was not terminated nor discharged because of any illegal activity, but Wells would not comment on the condition of her termination.

CBS19 also learned Thursday that Macko has had more than one run-in with the law. In June of 2007, Macko was charged with grand larceny. The charge was reduced in court to petit larceny, and she was sentenced to two years probation.

Press Secretary Gibbs was also asked if the White House performed a background check on Macko before her appearance with the President.

“I don’t know the specifics,” Gibbs said. ‘But it’s safe to say, had we known [about the charges against her] she wouldn’t have been here.”

Did they perform a background investigation? HELL NO!!!

Sloppy staff work, which is becoming another defining characteristic of Mr. Hope and Change. Way to go White House. That egg on your face is fried. Bottomline, Barack is in charge, or at least, he is supposed to be in charge.

Electric Boogaloo provided an excellent visual comment that summarizes the mess (Many thanks).

  • Obama: Dubya 2 Electric Boogaloo

    FAIL

  • EllenD

    Background check? What’s that? (snark)

  • imustprotest

    It’s like the GateCrashergate.  Aren’t people that close the the president supposed to be…..you know…..not criminals???

  • jwrjr

    Maybe they could start with a thorough background check on Obama?

  • Buzz water cracker Latte

    Wow, those clever people who condensed Obama’s presidency into a 1:41 clip!  I particularity like the :41 overview of Obama’s war on terror and the 1:12 synopsis of Obama’s helpful participation in the Gulf Oil Spill.

    And who can forget the very beginning of the clip with Obama’s grand entrance into the job of POTUS!

  • Buzz water cracker Latte

    If the president doesn’t need a background check a la Nancy Pelosi, why should any of his staff vet his human stage props?

    That might cause someone around the WH to have to do some work!  Yikes!

  • Docelder

    Maybe it’s for the best if these jackasses don’t answer the 3 a.m. phone calls. The answering service probably is better staffed.

  • Onofre’s mongrel arm

    Obviously, it would have been unfair for Leslie Macko to endure a greater background check than the man/child Obama was required to undergo. In Obama land, nobody’s past deeds or history need be considered, Obama himself has set the standard with the huge unexplored voids in his past.

    Isn’t it amazing that so much could be discovered about Macko in such a short period of time, while so little is known about huge portions of our POTUS’ life after years of public exposure. I’m painfully aware that if my life were to undergo extreme scrutiny, there would be few gaps left out by a good detective. It is beyond bizarre that there hasn’t been at least one reporter who could provide us with a detailed accounting of Obama’s grades, classmates, test scores, medical records, transcripts, college applications, etc. It really is baffling.

  • Onofre’s mongrel arm

    Nice one Doc!  :)

  • Concerned

    It’s that old adage again and again and again.

    Birds of a feather flock together. You know how sometimes, you meet a stranger and you just hit it off?

    Same thing here. That’s why so many of his czars are tax evaders who SHOULD be jailed.

    That’s why his best friend is in the slammer. That’s why his mentor is now standing trial. That’s why his pastor, the one he didn’t really know hates America. That’s why, my fellow Americans.

    That’s why.

  • ~~Justme~~

    Right, I am shocked Ayres never got into the photo shoot.

  • ~~Justme~~

    better staffed and BETTER prepared!

  • Concerned

    There’s another great adage – A man is known by the company he keeps.

  • Katmoon

    Same here Touchet,background is Paralegal, but looking at any admin. support position, as well as temporary relocation to be close to family of our deployed soldier. 

  • Touchet

    Silly me.  I have a degree in Molecular Biology and an associates in applied science for Biotechnology.  I am working at kohl’s for money.  What is wrong with me, I should be on unemployment *sigh*.   
       
    I don’t know what I was thinking getting a job i don’t particularly like, just to take care of my responsibilities in the meantime.  
     
    Come on, this woman has been out of work since 2009?  Thats TWO YEARS!  No wonder she can’t find a job, she rode the system too long.  She fails the part of the interview that says, “why have you been out of work for so long?”  
     
    Notice, he doesn’t say she has a fitness degree of some sort, just that she worked for a fitness center.   Then you find out she got fired from her job because she stole from it and has a prior conviction.
     
    Bottom line, the woman doesn’t want to get a job, its not like she had a great job to begin with.  At my work place we are hiring all kinds of people everyday.  She will have to do like everyone else does….like I had to.  You start off as part time, and then work your way up.  If you are a hard worker and dedicated, it doesn’t take long.  It took me 6 months to get to full time status, and within another year I got promoted twice.  Thats just the way the cookie crumbles.  
     
    Instead these people are not settling.  They want to have the exact same job.  Maybe the government should be providing shrink session to help these people cope with their lack of ability to adapt when THEY are responsible for the reason they got fired.  How in the hell is she on unemployment when she is a known criminal.  She was most likely stealing from the fitness center, but instead of going the legal route, the company just took the loss and payed for her unemployment at first.

    She will have to do like everyone in her situation with a record.  She will have to either start her own business or take a job at a fast food resturant or some other place that doesn’t require a background check.  In the meantime, she can petition her congressman to relax the background check through legislation.

  • getfitnow

    I thought this was the best vetting team ever. Remember when they were hiring for the WH and had that long-ass questionnaire? MSM was so giddy over how thorough these guys were.

    Keystone Kops. Nuf said.

  • Sassy

    Krauthammer had a good line…10 million people unemployed and this White House can’t find three with a clean record! Hysterical!
    Bush caught bird crap in the Rose Garden, and Bo caught a jail bird! LOL!

  • AbigailAdams

    Touchet,

    Why, you’re just an old fuddy duddy; unhip, and definitely uncool, man.  You’re response to your unemployment is, like, so yesterdayville.  How can you look your friends and family in the eye, doing such a square thing as working at something that is so beneath you?  Especially when barry is in the WH and said he would pay our mortgages and fill our gas tanks?  (At least that was the wide interpretation of what he said.)  What are you trying to prove?  That some of us, like the lady in this story, are slackers?  That’s harsh, dude?  

  • AbigailAdams

    This is a great story.  And it looks as though the prayers of a lot of people are being answered.

  • Breeze

    -

    Obama’s Mean Streak

    American Thinker,
    by Ed Lasky   

    Original Article

    7/30/2010

    Barack Obama seems to have a pattern of using ceremonial or stately events as opportunities to ambush and humiliate people. This behavior is unpresidential and reveals a vindictive streak that makes Richard Nixon look like Mister Rogers. A few examples of Obama’s taking pleasure in administering public pain to others: During the State of the Union Address, he chose to direct his ire at the justices of the Supreme Court, located in the front rows….

  • kenoshamarge cracked cracker

    I thought that was great line too Sassy.

    Do you ever feel when watching the Oblahblah Administration that it’s just one long episode of “America’s Funniest Home Videos”?

    Only not so funny cause the Joke’s in the White House?

  • kenoshamarge cracked cracker

    Best Oblahblah keep to venues like “The View” where he will get all the adoration he demands, he won’t have to answer any tough questions and he can still flap his yap.

    You would think the very least he and his staff would do for these “staged” events at the White House is “vet” the people he uses as props. I thought Bush was supposed to be the stupid one.

  • Sassy

    BO has that “ghetto strut” thing working…he doesn’t need to look smart!

  • My Site (click to edit)

    So typical of this administration.  But then, Obama worry about lawbreakers? Not.  I’m surprised he didn’t recognize the woman as a crook, after all, it takes one to know one.

    At least Charles Rangel will be tried for serious ethics violations during the fall campaigns.  Hope it hurts the sitting Democrats. 

  • My Site (click to edit)

    How sad that places where employees serve food to the public there is no background check required!

  • My Site (click to edit)

    Sassy, it’s about the same thing as 330 million people in the U. S. and both parties can’t find a candidate who isn’t a former crackhead!

  • Sassy

    While BO gets in touch with his feminine side on The View, Gates and Mullen held a conference on the Wikileaks incident.
    Gates called the leaks “severe and dangerous” and stated that other countries would be wary of sharing intelligence with the U.S. There is also the possibility of lives put at risk.

  • Docelder

    A lot of the bussing of tables and dishwashing is done by illegals. They would probably be waiting tables too, but you need to speak English and write to take orders. Maybe part of the “dream” program can be teaching these people elementary grade school level reading, writing and English. Maybe do that before we give them all college degrees.

  • Captain Jack Sparrow

    Neither side of this story makes any sense. The WH would not have had her appear if they knew she had a criminal record in 2007? What difference does that make. She did her time and now what? Considered subhuman? A piece of shit? Throw her to the street to die? Is that what we have become as a society? But I guess we don’t think our shit stinks eh?  Those like this women are not worthy of help! Is that it?

    Unemployment is unemployment. I have a family member who has been out of work for over a year now. Mother of one and she has been looking for work without success.  Her unemployment ran out and now she is struggling NOT to go on welfare.

    In this case to criticize anyone because of a criminal “past” is bullshit. Of course the WH could have found someone else as well to make the point. But I would have capitalized on the moment. Compassion…. But like everything else. Its all politics….

    It just sucks…..

  • Captain Jack Sparrow

    PS: And the press making an issue of someone who has served their time for a crime is nothing more than “gotcha news making”… Also bullshit.

  • guest

    Gibbs says he met with reporters from The New York Times and says he sent a message through the reporters to the head of WikiLeaks asking that the online whistle-blower redact information in the documents that could harm U.S. military personnel.

    I wonder, though, if the White House told the New York Times that publishing stories based on these documents would in any way do real harm to our troops ? 
    Because the paper did excise information based on a White House request in order to protect “the safety of individual soldiers.” But if they do not pose a threat to soldiers, why are they classified and top secret? An excuse and rationale to increase hostilities against Pakistan, perhaps ?

  • Yttik

    Nobody’s talking about where these unemployment extensions come from. They are billed to employers in the form of higher premiums. If you’re a small business forced to support unemployed people for 99 weeks, you’re not likely to have any money left over to hire anybody. Higher unemployment premiums means less jobs.

  • FLDemFem

    OA, You were wondering about.. Obama’s grades, classmates, test scores, medical records, transcripts, college applications, etc. It really is baffling.” It’s not baffling, OA, Obama has spent about $2 million keeping those records sealed. He has gone to great lengths to make sure we never see those records. Personally, I would like to see a FOIA suit to shake them loose. It would definitely be in the public interest to have that information made public. Not in Obama’s interest, probably, but definitely public interest.

  • Tricia

    You can’t make this stuff up!  Unbelieveable!

  • helenk

    I received an e-mail today from the dems, inviting me to have my picture taken with benedict backtrack while he is in Dallas on August 3rd.
    I am no longer a democrat and have been an independent since May 2008.
    So no there is no checking and these people are fools.

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXERIENCE, MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE CHATTERING PEOPLE RULE

  • My Site (click to edit)

    Docelder:  I doubt Obama wants these illegals to get toooo educated.  Then they’d see through him.

  • My Site (click to edit)

    helenk:  OMG!

  • kenoshamarge cracked cracker

    I don’t care if any of them “look” smart sassy, I’d like them to “be” smart.

    I don’t care if they have big feet, big ears,big noses, big guts, bald spots or halitosis. Heads of State in foreign countries may “care” about the halitosis but they can keep their distance. All this huggy-huggy crap annoys me anyway. And if you look in their eyes and see their soul you probably need medication of some kind or the BS meter needs to be attached.

    I don’t care if they “give” great speech so long as they are reasonably articulate and can tell us what’s what in plain, simple, easily understood language so that they can’t weasel out of what they said because “we” misunderstood.

    The POTUS has enough advisors that he’s doesn’t need to be, in fact he cannot be, an expert on everything. Any that pretend they can are only fooling themselves and the pinheads that worship at their feet.

    Someone that is honest, competent and articulate are all that I care about. Save the “Rock Stars” for MTV and voters that can’t seem to escape adolescence.

  • kenoshamarge cracked cracker

    If “O” is getting in touch with his “feminine” side sitting next to Behar is not the way to do it.

    Did she wear the knee-pads Limbaugh Fed-Exed her? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSjegRcj7ow&feature=player_embedded

  • tango

    Criminal record in 2007 & 2009 not just 2007.  Theft in 2007 and prescription drug fraud in 2009.  I realize people need second chances, but perception is that the majority of non-offenders with clean records who are out of work and desperate won’t be impressed the WH is toting out a woman with two convictions as the type of person most deserving of extended unemployment benefits. She might be the poster child for giving those with criminal backgrounds a chance but that wasn’t the point of Obama highlighting her story.  I would say, her unemployment probably has a lot to do with her convictions.  Given a choice between a thief who abuses the prescription drug system and someone with a clean criminal background,  why would an employer hire her? I bet a lot of her unemployment problems are self induced so don’t be using her as a great example of people who through no fault of their own are unable to find a job and need continued and long term help.

    Kind of like that whole Henrietta Hughes, poor homeless woman who said her home was foreclosed on so her and her grown son were homeless and living on welfare, SS and food stamps. Obama had to highlight her case at one of his rallys. Well oh well, come to find out that was all bunk. She quick claimed her portion of the home she jointly owned with her son to her son and he still owns it and the lot next door. They did sell one lot back in 2005. Her son, poor unemployed man through no fault of his own, was fired for incompetence. Geez, another case of a unemployed person being so largely due to his own actions.  There was a foreclosure notice served but it was ultimately paid off. 

    http://www.agweb.com/discussionboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5308

  • Sassy

    There is the issue of Afghanistan people who are working with our military.
    Even Karzai condemned the information being released.

  • helenk

    I started laughing just thinking about this picture. My daughter always said that I would look the Queen of England in the eye and say ” up the rebels”. Could you just see me asking benedict backtrack why he feels it it ok to give Arizona to Mexico and Why is it ok to diss this country every time he goes on an international so called tour?

    WOMEN WITH INTELLIGENCE AND EXPERIENCE,MEN WHO SUPPORT THEM AND COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS

    PUMAS,BUBBAS,EQUALISTS AND THOSE CHATTERING PEOPLE RULE

  • Sassy

    I agree kenoshamarge!
    Although Bush always looked like his horse had left without him, I trust him more than the current president.
    John McCain is not a conservative’s conservative, but his campaign stops were identical to his Senate speeches…witty, serious, and at times acerbic.
    I never doubted where he stood, and the country lost when he was defeated, in my opinion.

  • Doc99
  • getfitnow

    Way, way, way back in the day it was called the pimp walk.

  • getfitnow

    More dangerous in the bus than under it. :-D

  • Onofre’s arm

    We can only hope that his strutting “Pimp Walk” will soon devolve into a shameful “Perp Walk”.

  • Breeze

    -

    Bam’s coalition is imploding: Women,
    white men, Jews, even Hispanics
    are abandoning President Obama

    New York Daily News,
    by Andrea Tantaros

    Original Article

    7/30/2010 

    President Obama was swept into office by a tidal wave of support from a diverse coalition comprised of white Democrats, women, independents, Hispanics, Jews and African-Americans. Amid the din of “Yes, we can!” chants, it seemed that nothing could bring the history-making President down. But now, with his policies largely unpopular and his inability to goose economic growth increasingly apparent, Obama’s once powerful political coalition is imploding. On Election Day 2008, Obama won the largest share of white support of any Democrat in a two-man race since 1976, according to Politico.

    Today, however….

  • Onofre’s arm

    Oh, I know about the millions spent on the cover up FlDemFem. I guess another “Deep Throat” type individual is too much to hope for. Any new information about Larry Sinclair? He was sure easily blown off. 

  • jwrjr

    “says he sent a message through the reporters to the head of WikiLeaks asking that the online whistle-blower redact information in the documents”????  What, now reporters are the official messare delivery service for the US Government?

  • jwrjr

    Also remember that Macko is unemployed … because she was fired for cause.

  • ~~Justme~~

    Let’s face it he has made a mockery of the system. Anyone else they need to know you’re inside leg measurement along with drug test for many jobs! Talk about checking out his resume! He wouldn’t get in at Home Depot!!

  • ~~Justme~~

    He would be stood outside with the rest of the illegals ;)

  • Samb

    There was always that house on the block, were you hung out  
    partied and watched TV. Obama is the kid who wanted to be cool  
    but just wasn’t, he had to work hard to make friends and now he 
    surrounds himself with staff and friends that are still making him look 
    like a fool, why don’t they just put a KICK ME sign on his back

  • candymarl light brown cracker

    That’s what stuns me Breeze. Obama’s vindictiveness is so “in your face” yet the LSM makes excuses everytime he behaves this way.

    This is a nasty, mean, petty little man. All of the parties, put downs, and bullying won’t change that.

    Why, oh why, didn’t the country listen to MLK Jr.? Obama is walking, talking, breathing proof that it is the content of character not color of skin that matters. 

  • candymarl light brown cracker

    But didn’t both the press and the WH initially say the leak was no big deal?  They said it was information that everybody knew or had been released before. What changed?

    One thing I can tell you Gates and Mullen screwed the pooch on this one. Now everyone knows, if they didn’t before, that this isn’t old info and is damaging. You never go public with a statement like that. You never  let your enemies know, publicly,  how much a breach may hurt you or your allies. You keep that behind closed doors. Idiots.

  • arabella trefoil

    I’m so proud of Elisabeth Hasselfrau. I knew she wouldn’t let me down. She asked the question that made the news reports. (Along with the “mongrel” mis-speaking incident.)

    Elisabeth is America’s sweetheart, and she has been since she was an embryo celebrity on Survivor Australia. (Note – Elisabeth Hasselfrau is not my sweetheart.)

    But her Q ratings are very high, and lots of people identify with her. Elisabeth, thank you for being the snitty little beeatch you are! Don’t change a thing. I am flying my Kucha Tribe banner in your honor.

    It’s true that you have been annoying the shit out of me for years, but it’s good to know you can be relied upon in a warfare situation. For now, you are my ally. Here’s the immunity idol, my smug little princess. You earned it.

  • skeeter

    Turns out she was just another mongrel looking for a handout. Where in hell is animal control?

  • EllenD

    Mr. Arkadin – an Orson Welles film where a multi-millionaire hires a shady detective to find his past, which he claims to have forgotten, but everyone the detective finds from the past ends up dead.

  • Buzz water cracker Latte

    Forget it.  The children of the illegals often travel back to Mexico with American dollars and vacation for two months during the school year. They don’t go to school there and they don’t practice speaking and reading english.  

    Then about February, they come back to school farther behind than they were before, have to be included in the school’s NCLB academic progress scores, and generally suck big buck and hours services away from the citizen children of the country!

    The ONLY solution is to make it very uncomfortable to come into the country illegally.  NO amnesty!  NO Dream Act!  No more Obama Admin and Orrin Hatch BS!

  • EllenD

    You have a problem if your previous employer can’t recommend you. I answer phone calls about that all the time.

    My favorite line is “I cannot recommend this person too highly.” ;)

    But I never use it.

  • EllenD

    Thanks, Touchet. Good luck for a brighter future.

  • AC Gluten Free Cracker

    I tried not to laugh but some are just too goofy.   :-D :-D :-D 8-)

  • AC Gluten Free Cracker

    Where in hell is animal control?
    *********************
    Here I am!
    But honestly, summer is my busy time.

  • surfered

    The neocons, the Israeli lobby, and Newt Gingrich are beating the drums again for war with Iran.  Some member of the House have introduced House Resolution 1553 that support Israel’s right to use “all means necessary to confront and eliminate nuclear threats posed by Iran.”

    Would like to hear Larry Johnson’s thoughts.

  • My Site (click to edit)

    Are his numbers seriously down to about 23%?

  • Docelder

    He thinks he can go on the view and do the same old magic act… thing is once you see how the magicians do the tricks it kind of ruins it from then on. He doesn’t have any new tricks. We have seen them all.

  • Breeze

    -

    OBAMA MAY BE “INCOMPETENT”

    BUT HE IS ONE SLIPPERY SNAKE – THIS IS NOT FUNNY:

    Obama administration considers bypassing
    Congress on immigration reform

    ProPublica,
    by Marcus Stern   

    Original Article

    7/30/2010

    The Obama administration, anticipating that Congress might not pass comprehensive immigration reform this year, is considering ways it could act without congressional approval to achieve many of the objectives of the initiative, including giving permanent resident status, or green cards, to large numbers of people in the country illegally. (Snip) The memo lists ways the government could grant permanent resident status to tens of thousands of people and delay the deportation of others, potentially indefinitely….

  • Clara

    I can imagine if they pulled something like this, there would be a revolution.  The fury would be off the charts.  I know mine would.

  • arabella trefoil

    Or an automated system, like the ones drugstores:

    Thank you for calling President Obama.

    To continue in English, press one.
    Para contuar en espaniol, pressione tres.
    For natural disasters, press two.
    For civic unrest, press four.
    For impending thermonuclear war, press five.
    For Malia, press six.
    To return to the main menu, press pound.

    Please hold on while we connect you with an operator.

    beeeeeep.

  • arabella trefoil

    Touchet – Thank you for your wise words. If only people listened to you.
     
    Best of luck to you. You are obviously smart, but even more important you are a survivor.
     
    You will go far and go on to better things!

  • Retired

    Actually, Macko is exactly the type of person that Obama has always intended to redistribute our wealth to.  Indeed, it is one of the campaign promises that he has been scrupulously keeping.  One might even say that it’s his top priority since he took office.

    Thank God that the stimulus package held unemployment under seven percent.  Otherwise, we would be in a real shit sandwich, economically speaking.

  • elizabethrc

    I so want to find out that Obama was a poor student, produced nothing of substance and was a lollygagger, but when I think of the massive damage he has done to this country, it doesn’t matter what kind of student he was.  What matters is the plan he has undertaken with his Alinskyites to destroy democracy.  I don’t know about his intelligence, but he is utterly driven with a kind of madness that is more dangerous than high intelligence misplaced. 
    Putting madmen (and their enablers) in places of power is as dangerous as letting Ted Bundy take your daughter to the prom.  The facade is nice to behold, the straight teeth, the good posture, the well placed words, but the danger is there, unchanged and waiting.
    Obama has been waiting to destroy America his whole life.  His perceived injustices have simmered within him and we are to be the recipient of what I only now gleen to be a massive anger.  His greatest goal is to make all of us suffer as he, in his mind, has suffered.  No one gets off.  I suspect even his conspirators will end up under his bus.
    November may well define whether America will survive as a democracy.

  • Mr. Goldfish Natural

    Not gonna happen. Right now, I’d wager that there’s someone measuring every statue of an African American in the US to make sure that Obama-Yo-Mama’s post-presidential bronze representation will be taller.

    Hope they build the MF’er’s statue in Compton…

  • Mr. Goldfish Natural

    I’m stunned that her state allows Unemployment Benefits when one is fired for Cause.

    I must get out more…

  • getfitnow

    Normally, it wouldn’t matter. But this was a major part of the narrative that prompted many to vote for him. Citizens need to know they were hoodwinked–and to what extreme.

    If his grades weren’t that great at Columbia, how did he get into Harvard? (rhetorical).

    Americans need to be slapped in the face with the facts. This can never happen again.

  • sowsear

    This was posted today at NQ…
    http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/07/some-of-stanley-ann-dunham-obama.html 
    ================== 
    “Dr Polland charges in his videos that Identity, Election, Wire, Internet, Interstate Commerce, & Birth Certificate Fraud were committed by Obama et al” 
     
    http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2010/07/dr-polland-charges-in-his-videos-that.html

  • sowsear

    And lie down with dogs…

  • sowsear

    Just saw something on Fox, in passing, about the Pvt.  Manning who is accused of leaking those 93,000 papers…while on duty in Iraq. Really? 

  • sowsear

    Did they ask you to donate too?